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If I hide/report some nasty shit in the list, it should also be hidden in the catalog. I don't know how easy this fix would be to implement code wise, but I hope this request makes sense.



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I don’t get why, patriarchy is a pretty pernicious and violent hierarchical structure that negatively effects both men and women, makes female workers more easily exploitable and easier to disrupt in organizing, makes men more likely to act as class collaborators with more powerful men against women from their own class and as a whole, is consistently used as a means to establish buy-in for many men into capitalism, with many reactionary bourgeois ideologies targeting young men playing heavily on patriarchal beliefs and norms, and of course, like it or not, but part of the issue with SA and less serious but still harmful forms of gendered and intimate abuse in some socialist parties and anarchist groups like it or not likely come down to patriarchal attitudes not sufficiently critiqued and deprogrammed out of male members

I’d also say there’s no problem discussing it either unless you’re more concerned with alienating potential male chauvinist allies over basically all women that might possibly be interested in radical politics
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>>33614
This was the mindset of the old /leftypol/ where everything outside of class politics is a spook

>>33648
>they actually explain class
There is an objective antagonism inside each family, which is reflected in one's practical access to economic relations. The personality mentioned here is the "holder" for property rights; the term "estate" would be proper if social and cultural property were not also implicated.
<[Puritanism] was clearly hierarchical; only, in place of the endless gradations characteristic of a feudal system, one is left with a mini­mal hierarchy of two or perhaps three levels. Women, children, and servants were encompassed within the personality of the householder; and, in all but the most radical versions, of householders encompassed by the King or State.
Violence "capital" is a spook, exactly the sort expected from a "there is no society" neoliberal "Marxist". Why do you even bother.

>>33651
>one part of the species having more muscle mass, being generally larger and more expendable than the other "is a spook"

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>>33657
It doesn't seem like a timely critique.

>having more muscle mass

Get a load of this Paul Bunyan guy…
>being generally larger
You're assuming that translates immediately to dominance, I suppose. You are aware of the comprehensive institutions of social humiliation and routine physical violence that were necessary to reproduce the male supremacy of mediaeval europoors, generally known as "rough music", I'm sure?
As a material condition, larger means easier to hit and easier to flee from.
>and more expendable
Only for a few years per kid, and industry has evened the score.

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>>33658
>larger means easier to hit and easier to flee from.
LMAO



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Is there any good reason to not include country flags in /leftypol/? I feel like it would make discourse better, you can know there an anon is coming from (both literally and figuratively) without having them start their post with >as a Mexican, I […]. If privacy is a concern, you could just make them be overridden by the custom flags, or add an option to hide the flag etc.
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>>33390
Just add tor flag

>>33389
I don't know who you are but lower case posting is low quality posting so I'm not convinced this is a "good enough reason"

>>33386
>Is there any good reason to not include country flags in /leftypol/?

Same applies for the vice versa, WHY should one use a country flag instead of saying >'as a Mexican'

>>33386
it would effectively de-anonymize everyone outside the USA and maybe the UK and one or two other countries. how many posters do you think we have from New Zealand?
>but they could hide the flag
and if they forget? or if they don't want to - but wouldn't go to the effort of tripcode/tripflag use if it wasn't default?

the only possibly-funny use i could imagine would be a non default country flag option, so if someone is chatting shit in the britpol thread (for example) you could challenge them to show their flag to "prove" they're actually from the country they're talking about.

>>33391
>Just add tor flag
it would misrepresent Tor

>>33386
because nations are a spook

>>33387
this
>>33390
also this, it's a false sense of identity.
also, Tor is not a VPN, kiddo. VPN idenitification would probably be unreliable anyway.
>>33393
Agreed. There are many countries with a single user, and having them deanonymized by default is against the mode of this site.



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Help us reach 4k!!!: https://twitter.com/leftypol_org
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Appreciate everyone who has been supportive and contributive to the account <3
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I love Elon Musk. imagine if he RT'd leftypol. shit would be so cash.

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5K!!!

>>31069
>not even hiding the patsoc radlib shit
LMAO
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<IPs last hour 33
I feel like this site has been dying over the last few weeks
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>>32426
also wtf is this shit lmao
>our worldviews are closer to humanity's in general

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>generals getting 1 reply per 30 mins / hour avarage
Holy fucking shit its slow.

>>33189
no anon, you don't understand: it's quality over quantity, can't you feel the extra effort that goes into every reply now that threads are slow enough for people to think before posting? PPH isn't important, it's like Stalin said: better fewer, but better!
yes, i'm joking. yes, the bit where I misattribute a lenin quote to stalin is part of the joke.

>>32425
> putting an end to the early era where a good chunk of the userbase had diverse ideologies and - more importantly - wore ideology flags. Using flags in that way was both a great way to stimulate ideological discussion and provide context for a given post, and also a novel way of using imageboards
the culture's too toxic now for that to work. if you say anything controversial with a flag, it will begin to damn all future posters of that flag. people will construct narratives about the kind of fucked up or embarrassing things certain flagposters say. it's the somewhat fuzzier equivalent of redditors digging through your comment history when you posted something they didn't like.

>>33192
> if you say anything controversial with a flag, it will begin to damn all future posters of that flag.
There's people who will start fights over totally innocuous things based on flags, and often based on assumptions about what someone's ideology is even when there's no flags involved.



 

You can't tell me, all this is made by "volunteers". We know projects like Linux or Wikipedia are backed by multimillion dollar corpos. So who is financing this site here?
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>>32952
>4channers KNOW that their site is a honeypot
<they post there anyway

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>>32947
>>32946
we shld not be attackin OP, OP has good intentions and these are clear from their replies, it is right for them to b always suspicious. if they started to point fingers at mods in particular, shittin on Zankaria, etc. then we'd hve a problem but this is not their intention.
>>32942
im w/ u on that one, riseup is 100% glow. outside of this fact, they're on record for releasing emails to the feds under threats of arrest. don't use.
>>32951
>We don't know how many people are involved,
idk, if ur on the matrix, u can talk to pretty much any of the mods. they all hve usernames

big man soros of course

>>33140
George Soros in collaboration with Hamas and Russian trolls.
But in reality we pull the strings.

>>32928
>You can't tell me, all this is made by "volunteers".
I have a confession to make: it's Putin. This entire website is funded and ran by the Internet Research Agency in Russia with the goal of destroying NATO, Israel and the USA. I remember the big office party we had when we won the meme wars and made Hillary lose to Trump. Nothing is going to stop what's coming.



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There is no organization going on on leftypol. In truth, there is only an ongoing process of atomization. Every day our numbers dwindle and our site loses users. The fact that we are so unwilling to recognize leftypol, not as a silly hangout spot, but as a military base surrounded by enemies on all sides, is probably why glowies even keep this website from going offline completely. We're an utterly worthless leftist organization. What is all the philosophy for if all of it is stupid edrama bullshit and attempts to explain an outside world we never explore ourselves? How exactly can leftypol have any purpose in this world if we don't convert people, or seek out comrades to befriend in person, or find leftist communities we can ally ourselves with, not that there are many of those. Why can't we have raids into other online spaces, or form communities on other websites that represent our interests as online leftists? Even twitteroid leftists do more activism online. Not to mention that there's a decrepit atmosphere of paranoia and existential dread, as well as everyone on leftypol being a piece of shit fossil who denounces porn addiction and criticizes everyone who actually makes an attempt to post something interesting for once. We practically do the glowies' work for them. If 4chan can organize real life attempts to steal a flag from shia labeouf's private residence then why cant we, i dunno, form cliques and networks of people willing to actually do shit? I wanted comrades from this place and all ive ever gotten were parasocial relationships with people who only share philosophy and poke and prod at anybody who suggests doing anything at all without giving anything in return. Fuck the air of critique here. Why cant you people propose projects? What's wrong with a 5 year plan? This is why the third world is the only hope of progress in the world. You firsties all gave an internet connnection and pretend to be "socialists" but you are the most antisocial people that could have ever pretended to be "comrades". This place is designed to lull leftists into a false sense of security and community. Wake up. Start organizing on a regional basis and stop focusing on the internet. You wont find any cameraderie online and your online comrades are pure fiction. Go outside.
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>>33110
Looks like that's the last one. There might be a couple more but I don't recall at this point.

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Appreciate the viddump comrade, did you just have these saved or is there somewhere they're all available?

>>33112
I just had them saved. It's part of my leftypol collection from way back then.

>>33113
Cool, thanks.
btw, not sure if you've used leftybooru before, and it's probably about to migrate to a new software soon which will make uploading easier, but its a great resource for sharing and tagging /leftypol/ images.
https://lefty.booru.org/

Love me some language barriers. ( >>>/music/14 )



 

I haven't been here in years. How have things been?

Oh apparently I need 150 characters. I remember that lel. Well I'll just say despite not hanging out here I'm still a Marxist, I've just been hanging out in other places.
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>>32427
The ukraine war broke this place's mind and a bunch of the userbase got alienated by duginist tryhards and left

>>32895
even those godawful threads feel slow these days, so they truly shat up the whole place and then left

>>32905
>>32895
>Muh Dugin!!!
Oh do stop making shit up just because you're ass-mad that the majority of users did not agree with bothsideist sewage spilled out by ideologues. This shit about "le duginites" is literally the baseless narrative Western MSM claimed, about how Dugin was the ideological adviser for Putin or some shit and how he was the one directing Russian policy. The number of Duginists on this site was never high, not even in the Ukraine thread
>It's Slooow
The current thread is slow because not a lot of major new shit is happening, people discuss shit just fine, they're just not buying into bad-faith garbage attempting middle-of-the-road idealism that glowies encourage.

>>32906
>Oh do stop making shit up just because you're ass-mad that the majority of users did not agree with bothsideist sewage spilled out by ideologues.

<he doesn't remember Butthole Schizo

>>32955
>implying 1 schizo = the whole site
Ok, reddit-spacer



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Jannies persecuting TOR users for personal reasons again.
The claim to turn it off this time is so called 'low quality posting from the onion' despite the facts that most tor posting is simply various anons posting news in the Palestine threads and that most tor posts are better than your average clearnet post.
Attached are the top 3 threads in /leftypol/. This is clear evidence removing the .onion has nothing to do with 'post quality', with all of the tor posts being better quality than these 3 threads, and is personally about jannies feelings.

fggdfhdfh

I take it that you haven't seen the thread sliding TOR spammer?

>>32923
The tor spammer literally nuked the /prc/ thread. hundreds of posts got deleted. The "Turn off " of the tor Is only temporarily, until the situation gets resolved.

>>32925
Wow if only there were some way to not let spammers delete hundreds of posts in threads

Oh my god I don't care



 

Hi i just found this site and im new to imageboards overall, too. I just have a few questions

1. How many anarchists are there? And which type of anarchists are typical? Like, what is the ratio between statist and libertarian left here?

2. Why Tor users are not allowed to post? You even have an .onion site, no? How people post there? Tor is required to access those links

3. How are genocides committed by the left (Hol0domor, Great Leap Forward, 1956 Hungary, under russian civil war, etc…) viewed here? Are they denied, or did they deserve it, or it was a necassary evil, or it was an unnecessary bloodshed and they were mostly innocent? (Gotta be honest, i belive in the last)
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>>32299
>One of the main features of images boards is anononymity.
Yes, but the staff has already decided the site don't care about that lol.
>Also the system doesn't know who is a mod if they don't login.
And that's fine.

>>32205
>literally posting with bauldrillard in the photo to show how polballs are stupid bullshit (like anarchism lmao)
show me youre a poser without saying it

>>32340
so you literally want mods to mod tag any post they made even when not related to mod matters? I'm sure the users would love that.

>>32912
Yes it's a stupid suggestion.
>mods should attention-whore outside of /meta/
No thanks!

>>32912
Ideally mods would be actual members of the community they moderate and make normal posts without any identification or while logged in as a mod. That way they're not getting into arguments with people who are supposed to be anonymous and making replies to try to continue those arguments in other unrelated threads. For a purely hypothetical example.



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