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 No.3579[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Hello everyone, now that we've settled in here a bit more, it's time to address the burning questions of constitutional reform! Until now we have been playing it fast and loose, lets say, with the old Bunkerchan rules, but they are clearly no longer apropos.

The key issue we would like to discuss is the internal administrative structure. As of now, we have been attempting to use mostly horizontal democratic organisation (among mods), however this has had some notable lapses and issues, and some would like to use a more 'traditional' hierarchical structure with admins at the top, moderators in the middle, and janitors on the bottom, or just admins and moderators. The advantage of having admins with executive power is primarily to cut through deadlock, which has been a real problem since our migration. That said, perhaps there are other ways to deal with that.

Another proposal is the question of user democracy and more involvement of users without volunteer status in decisionmaking. This is a good idea in theory but in practice it is difficult to agree on how to move forward with it. Should users have direct voting power? If so, how will this be implemented and to what extent? Can the moderators override the users and if so in what circumstances? Should users be vetted (ie through Matrix) in order to ensure that the vote is not totally skewed by sockpuppets? If so doesn't that privilege people who use off-site communication unfairly? As you can see, it is a difficult subject, but interesting nonetheless.

One more issue is over who is and isn't allowed to post on leftypol, ideologically speaking. Mostly everyone can agree that this board should be for 'the left' but what does that mean exactly? Who is included and who is not in that definition? While I'm sure everyone will agree that 'orthodox leftism' should be allowed, there is ambiguity over what that means at the boundaries. Are anprims allowed? Post-colonialists? Anarcho-nihilists? Juche proponents, or Pol-potists? How about social democrats? And so on. To what extent are non-leftists allowed? Do they have the same 'rights' as leftist posters or are they treated harsher?

I have attached the most up to date version of the old constitution, which some of us think should be simply adapted to the new circumstances. On the other hand, some vols have proposed a new constitution altogether which I will attach below. There is also the option of throwing all of these out and woPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.4054

>>4037
I’m using an iPhone Xr and the Safari browser app.

 No.4061

>>4038
To add to this, I’ve figured out choosing from Files (“Browse…” option) works problem free. Only photo library doesn’t.

 No.4076

>>4038
>>4054
>>4061
Thanks, I will get the tech team to follow up on this and try fix it.

Anyway, on topic, we are now voting on whether or not to approve the version of the constitution/manifesto that I proposed here.
>>3875

I understand that it is not as radical a document as some people were hoping for but I believe that it is a good middle ground between user input/mod accountability and stability. Also it could still be rejected by the other moderators of course.

 No.4077

>>4076
Just reviewed it looks good tell us how the vote goes

 No.4160

>>3579
The new constitution has now PASSED! While there may be more changes in the future, and we will continue to experiment with user democracy, I am glad that we have a solid base to build on in the future and a ruleset firmly established for leftypol.org.

Thanks to everyone for your involvement!



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 No.3308[Reply]

pls add autorefresh
like on bunkerchan, 4chan, 8ch, etc.
good feature

 No.3313

but it's there

 No.3315

>>3313
i dont see it on firefox is it only visible on other browsers?

 No.3316

>>3315
I am on firefox and I see it.

 No.3317

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>>3316
oh shit, the placement was way different so i didnt even see it



 No.2598[Reply]

Instead of having the same fucking boards as bunkerchan, divide the site according to the different variants of left-wing political economy and group the ones that are similar in the same board. For example, all Anarchos on one board, M-Ls, Hoxhaists and Leninists on another one, Leftcoms and Ultras, Liberals and Sucdems, etc. Hell you can create one for Nazis and Lolberts where they can get reeducated after getting banned on the rest of the site, an actual gulag of sorts.

I guarantee you you will surpass the bunker in PPH and users because it is something neat and original. You can even create weekly activities like debates or vydia tournaments between boards while discussing theory. There is a fandom of political balls that can both be used as a guide to make the new boards and new flags, which will be a representation of each political ball. Similar to Krautchan. I can help you making these balls, I used to make pixel art.

Unless you stop being thet copy from bunkerchan no one will come here.
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 No.3361

>>2598
Right now I think the sites main problem is that its spread too thin. PPH only matters if its below a certain threshold and imo eery board is below that threshold

The point of imageboards (or any social media) is to communicate with other people. If an average poster cant expect a significant amount of replies within, say… 24hrs, then why bother posting at all?

I would say the best thing that could be done rn is to concentrate activity into a few useable boards and then grow/scale back up as needed. Right now, only /leftypol/ has any meaningful amount of activity and its barely enough as is (see >>3325). We should focus on keeping it alive before fucking around with /hobby/ and /tech/ boards. Think of it as crisis management, after all if there are no posters, what is the point of the entire site?

In short, my proposals.

1) TEMPORARILY, get rid of all boards other than /leftypol/ and /meta/. Theres no need to delete them, just hide them like /dead/ and bring it back when the need arises.

2) TEMPORARILY, reduce the number of simultaneously active threads (permanently imo). From the catalog I count over 16x21 (336) active threads? thats seems ridiculous. It's cool that conversations can be revisited and picked up much later but it has the same effect of splitting activity too thinly. Again, better to have 3 threads with 30 replies than 30 threads w/ 3 replies. From glancing at 4chinz I would recommend 10x12 (120) threads, they have more but are also over a 1000 times larger. If it's enough for them, it's plenty here.

3) ADVERTISE, the site once it starts to pick up. It may feel gross and shameless, but it's only necessary to reach a critical mass of posters then you'll NEVER have to do it again. How is anyone supposed to know this place exists? It doesn't have to be shameless e-begging either; lot's of people found bunkerchan through screenshots tagged with the site name. The catch is it ONLY works if the site is worth caring about in the first place. Manufacturing fake screenshots is silly and all the advertising in the world means little if no-one cares enough to hang around. Building a good community comes first, telling others about it second.

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 No.3363

>>3361
I would question the benefits of getting rid of boards now that we have an overboard. The way they work now has a nice balance for preserving topics that don't get bumped often enough to not basically die on /leftypol/, while not totally cutting them off from an audience since they will intermittently be seen by overboard users.

3) would seem like it should be the main priority: When people look for /leftypol/ they need to be directed here, not to Bunkerchan. ideally we'd send /pol/ spammers there, obviously, but we're also better equipped to handle them if they arrive. That's the one big disadvantage we presently have. That, and perhaps a greater reluctance to reach beyond imageboards to invite a wider audience to become part of the userbase in the way that 8/leftypol/ was occasionally willing to.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism

 No.3371

>>2598
>Hey guise lets divide ourselves and then sit at useless impotent circlejerks being stagnating sectarians that we all surely are. This will definetily help us to advance our theory!
Shove all that Peace™ and Left Unity™ crap up yer aess and read Lenin.bolshevikBolshevik

 No.3413

>>2598
Feedback received but this goes against the 'spirit' of /leftypol/ and would furthermore just suppress activity, so, we're not going to do it and I'm gonna anchor the topic.

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 No.2586[Reply]

Ok, there's a few wordfilter I really miss :

nigger->uighur
IQ->autism level
tranny->transhumanist

also if you got new propositions :
navalny->new yeltsin
do11ars->Blaise "do11ars" Compaoré
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 No.3567

>>3565
this

 No.3568

>>2586
Peterson > Benzo Binger

 No.3569

Eugenism > … wait, I need to take my meds…

 No.3570

no wordfilters

 No.3892

>>3568
gave me a giggle mate
so whats the verdict ?
why no vote on wordfilters ?
I fucking knew not having regular reports of meta discussions and votes on leftypol would lead to complete apathy of the user base toward site features.



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 No.1132[Reply]

why are /IG/ threads on leftypol and not on /b/ where they belong?

 No.1133


 No.2581

because they beloing on leftypol



 No.1126[Reply]

Every thread appears as if they had only 5 hidden replies on the overboard.

 No.1127

>>1126
This is a known issue, but you didn't bother to check the ttg thread did you? >>>/leftypol/43525ak-47AK-47

 No.1128

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>>1127
Of course not, I'm not going to look for some stupid ass off-topic thread on the politics thread when there's a whole board dedicated to
> Discussions, querries, feedback and complaints about the site and its administration.read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book

 No.1130

>>1128
This issue was fixed in the latest site update.

 No.14942

>>1128
Test post.

 No.14943

this should fail



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 No.1110[Reply]

>Can't even start new threads from the catalog
What a shitty website

 No.1111

cant even edit your own posts, truly half-baked.

 No.1114

Sorry anon but you are dumb

 No.1119

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>>1114
>gets called out on being a lazy developer
>finally installs missing feature and pretends it was there the whole time
Real small pp energy from you bro



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 No.2865[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This thread will be dedicated to hosting and advertising anti-bunkerchan agitprop. This thread will also be for discussing the current state of affairs at bunkerchan and discussing methods for convincing the people still trapped on flunker.
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 No.3296

>>3282
Didn't post a screenshot of it so far because it didn't happen to me again, but just now it did. Here you go.

 No.3297

>>30199

 No.3298

>>3227
Fuck you ex-dictator tranny, I'm glad you're not the man in charge anymore, you can't ban me now.

 No.3299

Why is the layout/design of this site so shit?

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 No.1069[Reply]

does anyone like this night jungle css idea? all thats done is editing the images to be darker.
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 No.1071

>>1069
thanks doc

 No.1072

I would make the colors much darker, so that it's white text on dark. Like a night theme.
Still very nice though.

 No.1096

Just post it when you're feeling it and we can add it to the config styles.

 No.1098

>>1069
Text is too dark

 No.1102

>>1098
this



 No.1059[Reply]

For fuck's sake, you morons, the small percentage inside the vol team who are actual /tech/ies are working their butts off every day, yet as a typical end-user, I receive NONE of their glorious achievements as INFO.

As it currently stands leftypol.org is basically split between two specialized groups: /techies/ (who do most of this shit) and non-/techies/ inside the vol group. "Interestingly" the latter group has a rather lax daily work schedule when compared to /techies/ proper.

Is this normal? Moreover, is this how a leftist group, let alone vol-team should function? That 3 bugs a day are being eradicated by the /techies/ and 1 new feature is being added every day, for the non-techie vol is merely something to acknowledge.

For God's sake, lazy ass non-techie vol, START DOING YOU JOB FOR ONCE!!

We are literally in a war with bunkerc.xyz!!!!!

Where is your contribution and how does it mirror the contribution of our techies??

Answer: NOWHERE. You are being useless, lazy, and boring, merely making sure that "every day challenges" are being taken care of.

This attitude of yours is COMPLETELY AND VISIBLY pathetic. We wan't none of it, you understand?
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 No.13243

tester



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