>>2738756You seem to me like a liberal who doesn't understand that the state arises from the irreconcilability of social classes between those who own property, those who don't, and their other competitors. For you, the state is a neutral entity, not an instrument of one class to oppress another? If you use the argument about the lumpenproletariat as an excuse, then I'll have to respond that the only problem with the lumpenproletariat is that, lacking a connection to the means of production and its precariousness, it desperately acts as a henchman of the bourgeoisie to prevent the organization of workers, and therefore doesn't develop class consciousness. However, this individual can join the movement as long as they understand that their interest must be aligned with the proletariat in abolishing private property.
All communist leaders, from Marx and Engels to Lenin, Stalin, and Mao, knew that the penal system and the bourgeois state exist only to defend the interests of the ruling classes in maintaining private property and exploiting workers. This is why, in and before a revolution, communists act within both the legal and illegal spheres of the bourgeois state and do not tolerate the transfer of repressive power to the bourgeois state that serves the bourgeoisie in order to abolish private property. Here, the army and police are abolished so that workers can organize themselves into self-defense committees to form the Red Guard and defend their interests. The Red Army eventually forms to defend collective public property and maintain the supremacy of the proletariat in the expropriation of capitalists, landowners, speculators, and reactionaries who impede the abolition of private property and the formation of the dictatorship of the proletariat.
Communists are revolutionaries and will abolish all institutions of the bourgeois state to form the state of proletarian democracy and implement a socialist economy. The victims of imperialism found within the lumpenproletariat will receive a working life with employment, education, and housing, along with re-education of antisocial tendencies. Those who oppose the movement and act as counter-revolutionaries will be punished, as will all counter-revolutionaries and agents of capitalist imperialism who resist the liberation of the workers centered on the proletariat. The question of punishmen
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