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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh edition


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>>2826956
>>2827320
Having faith in American politicians is a silly concept

Pedo admin will attack/invade Cuba to distract from this.

the footage come out of these protests is some of the most brutal i've seen since 2020.

https://houdinimagazine.com/articles/2026-05-30-delany-hall-hunger-strike

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The overdose that keeps on giving

>>2827259
Not at all



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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/05/15/oqst-m15.html

>Trade union leaders call for orderly transition from Starmer to police working class opposition


<Britain’s trade union bureaucracy is working overtime to suppress mounting hostility in the working class to the Labour government, amid the deepening crisis surrounding Keir Starmer’s premiership…
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>>2826705
The only good advice here.

>>2826283
Is this meant to be a bad thing?
I'd be surprised this isn't the outcome most users here would want, despite the LARP.
Issue is that there is no indication we are heading in the direction of a revolution of any kind

>>2826705
>>2826985
Going to A&E for non-emergency things is a significant contribution to why emergency departments, leading to hospitals in general, are collapsing.
OP, if for some reason you can't get an appointment with your GP then at least speak to 111 for advice (unless you actually do feel it is an emergency).

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>>2814626
Loyalists don't even have the decency to use real artists to make their hatefull murals… Is there a worst group in the whole of Europe ?

>>2827329
Do they still do Kill all Taigs stuff or has the anti muslim stuff completely replaced the anti catholic sentiment?



/latam/

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En 2024, Haz Al-Din, figura destacada del Partido Comunista Estadounidense (ACP), afirmó que un hombre era violado por una mujer trans si esta no revelaba previamente su transición de género, lo que generó controversia entre algunos sectores de la izquierda: https://xcancel.com/secondbyfarce/status/1852772181073445357

Si bien la postura de Haz puede resultar desconcertante y perturbadora para algunos, en el contexto del consentimiento en la intimidad sexual, tiene razón, ya que simplemente aplica la lógica de la violación como falta de consentimiento hasta sus últimas consecuencias.

Porque, seamos realistas: el consentimiento, como señalaron figuras como Harry Hay y Michel Foucault, no es más que la teoría liberal del contrato aplicada al sexo, y un contrato se anula si se celebra bajo falsas pretensiones. No finjamos que los contratos se celebran en el vacío, ya que su validez no es un juicio neutral de una figura imparcial, sino más bien una decisión de los poderes fácticos (por ejemplo, el Estado) bajo dictados culturales dominantes o burgueses.

Así pues, a menos que creas que el consentimiento no debería ser absoluto en las relaciones sexuales, entonces que una mujer trans tenga relaciones sexuales con un hombre cisgénero heterosexual sin revelar su género previo a la transición es violación, al igual que el sexo por engaño es violación, y ninguno de los dos está penalizado ni siquiera en los países más feministas como Noruega, Suecia, Islandia, Dinamarca, Estados Unidos, Canadá, Australia, Reino Unido y Francia. ¿Qué dice esto de la teoría del consentimiento si ni siquiera los países más feministas del mundo penalizan el sexo por engaño como violación?

Luego, por supuesto, está el tema de la Ley de Consentimiento, una legislación burguesa draconiana y absolutista utilizada por la burguesía capitalista para disciplinar moralmente a la clase trabajadora en una moral burguesa antiproletaria desde los tiempos del infame periodismo de prensa amarilla de William T. Stead. En este caso, una persona menor de la edad mínima no puede (legalmente) consentir a tener relaciones sexuales con alguien mayor de esa edad. Los argumentos idealistas comunes a menudo aluden a una noción inconsistente y arbitraria de "madurez mental" que es altamente subjetiva dependiendo de quién la use, mientras oscurecen el meollo del asunto: no ePost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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Hice un ensayo para un concurso, como casi no sé ni lo que es un ensayo quiero que me digan que tal está. Soy muy joven asique disculpen si está mal redactado, aparte de que no he leído mucho. Espero que les guste



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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
ɢʀᴀʙ ᴀ ᴘᴀɪʀ ᴏꜰ sᴘᴇᴄᴛᴀᴄʟᴇs

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
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Jewish supremacists use goy as a racial insult. Settlers scream it as Palestinians as they force them off of their land. Getting upset over anyone else using goy is playing into the jewish supremacist idea that somehow jews are just special, they deserve the right to use slurs against others and their slurs should be protected from mockery. Getting upset over someone using goy is the same kind of pearl clutching as getting upset over a black person using the word uygha.

I made a police bootlicker leave the party yesterday with my dank anti-cop views 😎

>>2827211
>I just want revenge on the first world (after I conveniently "left" it)
Bro literally left Australia - the highest HDI country on Earth - to be a digital nomad in a gentrified suburb of Buenos Aires full of crakkker expats who don't have to pay taxes - and thinks that makes him equally as third world as someone living in the favela or in a Sub-Saharan African/Indian corrugated sheet metal slum house with no access to clean water.

B.E is based and Haz is right 50% of the time. Now give me a 1000 replies from my bait leftypol.

>>2827316
Nah you don't get it, he's one of the good ones, because he redistributes money from his first world paypigs to underage Latino prostitutes



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You can’t be a communist and support the AoC. It’s impossible. Why? Let us analyze the question dialectically. To start no communist should be using rhetoric about the Epstein affair other than in a completely self-interested way to delegitimize the system. Why? Because revolution is not a dinner party. It requires red terror of the kind the Bolsheviks in Russia unleashed. The foundation of the dictatorship of the proletariat is red terror. Red terror must be like the air we breathe. Can you really be angry about the age of consent and Epstein while practicing red terror? It’s only possible while using it as prop to manipulate the most cattle-like normies, the most alternatively petit-bourgeoisied or lumpenized segments of the proletariat. But the limits very soon become apparent. The weepy soccer mom evangelical moralism that leads people to grand emotional outpouring over Epstein’s sexual relations with teens is incompatible with the titanium spine required to practice red terror. Red terror requires hard and ruthless new men who will do anything to destroy the class enemy— this cannot be reconciled with weepy pseudo-Christian moralism that leads he average normie to have psychosexual emotional meltdowns over the fact that some Jewish guy had sex below the magic age line. If you search your heart you know this to be true

Immaculate larp

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CCP leader here. Me no undelstand you, but you comrade so me support you long time for wolkel stluggle. My gleeting cald to u



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This war just seems like a endless humiliation ritual for russia. Only way to win such games is not to play.

>>2827270
>nafoid coping
because russian nazis arent in any positions of power while ukrainian nazis are, and the russan state isnt giving national celebration to nazi collaborators and ideology while ukraine state is
kys glowie

>>2827317
Wtf I love drone strikes on nazi babies now.

Tbh Rusich is a mark against the Russian state, they shouldn’t be acceptable just because they happen to be willing to fight Ukraine, but again I have to point out that the motivation for being anti-NATO and therefore anti-Ukraine is not believing that the Russian state is anything more or less than a standard capitalist state willing to utilise the services of such people when its expedient to do so.

When it comes to Ukraine thoughever, that is a state that keeps reburying Nazi collaborators, naming shit after Ukrainian SS divisions, promoting mass marches celebrating a guy who wrote genocidal diatribes as their ideological hero, painting Balkenkreuz-like crosses on all their vehicles, etc.

If you take the view that all countries have Neo-Nazis and often bourgeois states utilise them for dirty work, okay fine. But if you say you don’t support Ukraine’s legitimisation, empowerment and promotion of Neo-Nazis and you wash your hands of it, then I have to ask you, genuinely, what the fuck else is there? What of Ukraine remains on your hands?

optics yap never gets boring



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Where are my fellow lesbians/sapphics at? How's life going for y'all? I'm afraid to start dating and depressed as hell. Anxious about what a broader crackdown on LGBT folks might look like. Yes I'm from burgerstan.
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>>8693
So hetfoids only want a fit, dumb and extroverted male to dominate over them and to have kids. Heteros are perpetuating the Nuclear Family™

I had a dream where i kissed a Serbian brunette.
It was interrupted by my alarm clock :^(

Elder lesbians make great drinking and smoking buddies

>>8813
Feels like shit. How can your gf call you fascist when you have an opinion different to theirs in the slightest AND you're not even a rightist? I'm kinda missing out because i've never been in a relationship before…….

>>8403
>>8404
It's such a problem. Abusers just get away with it because they are woke. Also I know so many people who have been raped by trans women who let them live at their house when they were homeless and then threaten to kick them out and make them homeless again unless they have sex.



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Alunya Art thread
(Draw or showcase new Alunya art)
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>>6197
Cat Alunya? more like COW Alunya

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>>6197
>>6198
she is a cat so she should have cat mammaries

>>6199
>crotchtits Alunya
basedbasedbasedbasedbased

Under Communism, everyone gets their fair share of milk.

>>6197
Dios mío…Espíritu del Señor. Espíritu de Dios, Padre, Hijo y Espíritu Santo, Santísima Trinidad, Virgen Inmaculada, ángeles, arcángeles y santos del paraíso, descended sobre mí. Fúndeme, Señor, lléname de ti. Expulsa de mi todas las fuerzas del mal, aniquílas, destrúyelas. Expulsa de mí los maleficos, la magia negra, el ogro de las tinieblas, el luz extinguido, el americano… Por favor, destruye la infestación diabólica; todo lo que es mal, pecado, envidia, celos y perfidia; la enfermedad física, psíquica, moral, espiritual y diabólica… destruye al monstruo, a la creatura… Quema a este mal en el infierno, para que nunca más me toquen a mí ni a ningun ser. Ordeno y mando con la fuerza de Dios omnipotente, en nombre de Jesucristo Salvador, por intermedio de la Virgen Inmaculada, a todos los espíritus inmundos, a inmediatamente, que me abandonen definitivamente y que se vayan al infierno eterno. El chupa-chupacabras no puede triunfar, el monstruo, el abominación… debe morir… Encadenado por San Miguel arcángel, por San Gabriel, por San Rafael, aplastado bajo el talón de la Virgen Santísima Inmaculada, aleja el aberración genetíca, al ogro de las Americas… Amén.



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Why are Eastern Bloc countries so inundated with retarded faggot gaylord parties that go around saying they're "Economically Left-Wing but Socially Right-Wing" or whatever? Western Europe doesn't do this, they have normal bourgeoisie political parties that reject syncretist nonsense. What the fuck are they doing over there? Can they just be normal and stop trying to be le unique and different? Why don't they just kill themselves?
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When the liberal students where beat up by the proletarian miners called upon by the socdems who overthrew Ceausescu is still my favorite post-communist momment

>>2821225
Nationalism. A disease.

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<centuries of
>Destitute disenfranchised masses (serfdom, 'feudalism', ethnic discrimination, antisemitism)
>Poor literacy
>Not much in the way of "free independent press"
>Wars
>Famines
>General disasters
(combined with)
>Social division along ethnic lines
>Messianic & eschatological ideology (Church later "Communism")
>>2821416
Land consolidation and commercialization of agriculture in the west by "medium sized" (family owned) enterprises. A bit different from eastern Europe, where it's either small farmers or large corporate/state owned firms.

the premise assumes that western parties are not atleast equally retarded

I remind you that Marx envisioned the communist revolution only in developed bourgeois countries, whereas Russia was a backward, peasant shithole.



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Japan is nowadays seen as the lap dog of the USA. Not a threat unless the USA commands it. But there are some similarities to the past. The US sanctioned Japan in the early 1900s, one of the reasons that pushed Japan to the war. Now the US is forcing Japan to invest more in the army, thus raising taxes and burdening the population. Recently the US demanded Japan $550 billion for nothing in return. This is raw power. The US is pushing Japan towards a path with no exit.

The nationalism and racial myth survived WW2, and the Japanese government has steadily maintained them. Up to this day, the Japanese population believe in the uniqueness and superiority of the Japanese race and culture. As such, Japan has rejected foreigners, choosing racial purity over survival.

All of this along with the severely worsening living and economic conditions is pushing Japan to choosing between obeying and dying, or disobeying and starting a war, similar to WW2. Any path they choose is basically suicidal.

To avoid a pacific war theater, the US must stop abusing Japan and offer some support. This is one of the tasks of the American left. Don’t ignore Japan!
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>>2826465
They were an Axis country allied with Japan.

>>2826487
The fact that they count and France doesn’t is bullshit tbqh

Fuck imperial japan but they had one of the coolest flags

To avoid a pacific war theater, the US must stop existing

>>2827155
Then again, Vichy France is widely deemed as a French puppet government, with the legitimate French government waging resistance from its Central African colonies.



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EDIÇÃO BANCO MESTRE
"Daniel Vorcaro é economista, empresário, ex-banqueiro e criminoso brasileiro. (Wikipedia)"
O covil dos webcomunas no Brasil
Último fio: >>17216
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>>18429

Certamente,alias sobre isso,apenas saindo da pauta gaymisandrica ou reacionariofags
algo que incomoda não só na esquerda mais em qualquer pauta progressista é como deixamos de abordar o homem,muito culpa do feminismo liberal extritamente norte americano branco, da polarização muito bem arquitetada dos grandes capitalistas usando de pautas sociais e ideologias reacionarias pra alimentar no masculino ideais facistoides.

Maioria dos homens continuarão sendo "Merdeteros", e me parece apenas ressentimento negar de que a solução dos nossos problemas é uma solução coletiva de todo o povo,não é nada materialista nem dialético da parte de alguns camaradas,sinto que precisamos da estética do novo homem de esquerda proletario,o masculismo a esquerda talvez seja a unica coisa que nos salvara de ideologias "redpilladas" e baternamulhercore,até porque é irrealista algumas soluções que leio nessa board (Maioria é ragebait larp e pra rir,oque sinceramente foda-se kekw).

>>18434
>masculismo a esquerda
O que é isto?

>>18435
uma nova identidade virada ao masculino com bases marxistas e de teor a esquerda.

no lance de "uma nova sociedade proletaria ,um novo homem proletario"

>>18436
homens também sofrem opressão do capitalismo e do patriarcado,mas parece que ninguém quer brandir essa bandeira

>>18436
Tem algum exemplo para ilustrar?



/leftypol/

 

I know that Western investment in the third world can be anti-imperialist and AES but what about IMF loans???
I thought Based China was going to wholesomely develop Africa's productive forces for free, what the FUCK is this??
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>>2827263
Not possible, the IMF doesn't actually gives you the money directly, they lend it to you to do a project, and they themselves choose which companies get paid for it (100% western companies)
They're not that stupid

>>2827096
>When the lib military government enacts liberal policy

>>2827096
Multipolartards lose again

Burkina Faso is a reactionary capitalist state that persecutes and imprisons minorities and loves the free market
>B-but they replaced french neo-colonialism with russian neo-colonialism!
Shut the fuck up you libzigger campoid, a communist is talking.

Nu-MLs are stuck into a caricatural conception of history inherited from the Cold War, and are perpetually surprised when it doesn't apply anymore in their "multipolar" utopia (i.e. the current stage of history we are living in right now).



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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/05/29/gvjw-m29.html

War on Iran could trigger a financial crisis, European Central Bank warns

Can anyone summarise Marx's argument in the chapter on the conversion of surplus value into capital?

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch24.htm

I've read the entire chapter and have walked away feeling as though I've stared into a black hole

<Did Stalin and Mao differ on commodity production under socialism (so what was planned to take place following the Cultural Revolution?)
<Did Mao reference M&E Critique of the Gotha Programme and/or labor vouchers or was the limited chinese agricultural work-point system initiated independently of Mao/Cultural Revolution Group?
Longer exposition of question seen in original question in the ML-MZT / MLM thread, yet to be answered:
>>2825634

>>2826930
The chapter explains how a capitalist turns surplus value into more capital. This process is called accumulation of capital. A capitalist gets surplus value from the workers' unpaid labor. The capitalist can use part of the surplus value for his own enjoyment. He can turn the rest into new capital. The new capital buys more machines and more workers. Those workers then create even more surplus value. Over time, the original money the capitalist started with becomes very small. Almost all of his capital comes from unpaid labor. The laws of buying and selling seem fair at first. But under capitalism, these laws change. The capitalist ends up owning everything. The worker ends up owning nothing but his own labor power. The chapter also says some economists made mistakes. They thought all capital goes to pay wages. That is wrong. Some capital buys machines and materials too. Other economists said capitalists save by giving up pleasure. This is called the abstinence theory. Marx says that is silly. The real source of capital is the worker's unpaid labor. Many things affect how fast capital grows. These include how hard workers work, how productive machines are, and how much capital is already in use. The last part of the chapter attacks the idea of a fixed labor fund. That idea says there is a set amount of money for wages. Marx says that is not true. The labor fund can change. Capitalists can send their money to other countries too. So the worker has no fixed limit on his wages from nature. The limit comes from the capitalist's need for profit.

Section one explains how surplus value turns into new capital. A capitalist gets surplus value from workers. He does not eat up all of it. He uses part of it to buy more machines and more workers. The new workers then make more surplus value. Over time, almost all of a capitalist's money comes from unpaid labor. The old laws of fair exchange get turned around. The capitalist ends up owning everything. The worker ends up owning nothing but his ability to work.

Section two describes a mistake made by old economists like Adam Smith. They thought all capital is spent on wages. They said workers eat up everything that is saved. That is wrong. Some capital buys machines and raw materials. Those are not wages. The economists got lost because they did not look closely at how things move through the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2827012
Thanks



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So give the fact US invasion of Greenland went from provocative joke to a realistic possibility, what are the chances of European governments getting their shit together?
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>>2824827
insane, thanks for posting. so if there was ever a wider european war France would be able to station nukes on their border with Russia

the eu is fascist
to be anti-eu is revolutionary
to beb pro-eu is to be reactionary

>>2825355
AfD is revolutionary?

>>2825367
duh, national socialist, it's in the name

>>2825367
the reactionary conservatives of the AfD are more revolutionary than the american and european 'left', who are in fact, reactionary



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Obviously their goal is to establish greater Israel but what is supposed to happen after that? Christian-Zionists believe that the rapture will happen but what the hell do Zionist Jews think will happen after they steal all that land and genocide the native Arabs?!?!
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Anglos out jewed the Jews trailing the with the cash.

Also some behind-the-scenes footage of Destiny's trip to Israel. He's a scumbag but there is a possibility he almost got his head blown off while peering into Lebanon from a hill on the Israeli side. If you look closely at 7:30 at high resolution you can see light reflect off a scope aimed at his group from the central village.

This is why Israelis are anxious about their northern border. The terrain on the other side is highly defensible, and you can get into firing points and fire into Israel with direct-fire weapons like ATGMs that take seconds to reach their targets. A direct-fire weapon for people who don't know travels in a direct line from the shooter to target, while an indirect fire weapon is like a rocket that can travel 20 kilometers and which you aim using mathematics. At any rate the northern border is such that the Israeli side isn't covered everywhere from direct-fire weapons, there are positions on the Lebanese side that overlook the Israel side.

Israeli troops might have taken that village and destroyed it now, but Israel is taking losses from FPVs, which I don't think they have a solution to. The situation they're facing now is a protracted situation where they just lose a soldier in Lebanon every few days from an FPV. That adds up over months or years.

>>2826650
>Fascists don’t usually have super coherent goals other than kill and dominate the out-group, right?
Well they can be aware of their limitations. Someone got flack for saying they want to survive, but they can believe that the only way to survive is to embrace a sadistic belief in power and the spectacle of violence, and what matters is the will to inflict overwhelming violence to cow people they won't wanna mess with them. But that makes people wanna mess with them. It's like they feel that any sign of weakness is a vulnerability, which is why Oct. 7 was so traumatic and frightening, because it made them look weak, hence the extreme and disproportionate reaction.

Images of Palestinian suffering hurts them but they seem to like images of destruction, especially buildings. For whatever reason they are fascinated by images of buildings blowing up. The IDF has events where they watch montage footage of villages being detonated with explosives. It's a theme in jingoistic music videos as well.

>>2826591
Capitalist nation enacting founding genocide and liquidation of working class and a faction of small capitalists. Easy.

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he arrives

What is the goal of Israel?
To fully become white.



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>"Wanted to have an adventure and kill some people. Joined up in ‘04, did Fallujah and Ramadi, and managed both. Hell of an excellent experience."

>"There are times in this world when, for the good of tolerance and humanity, you need to kill a motherfucker. Sadly most people who are true believers in tolerance and humanity find that activity repulsive. Which I suppose is morally good, but pragmatically a shortfall."


>"Out of curiosity, what would you say to the many Marines and Soldiers who took trophies and desecrated bodies while fighting the Japanese? I find the urinating on bodies as a poor choice, but only because of the current state of media affairs. It's amusing that today killing a man isn't worthy of comment, but god forbid you display dominance. Only 50 years ago, and for the rest of the history of warfare, this stuff was pretty standard."


>"We are going to kill thousands. By the end of it, it may be millions. Our way of life is better, and if that is what it takes to prevail, let's get this show on the road. I don't disagree with your point, I just disagree with the fact you seem to think we shouldn't do it."


https://archive.org/download/graham_platner_reddit_comments/graham_platner_reddit_comments.txt

the tattoo and the racist and misogynistic stuff graham platner has said in the past were certainly red flags for me, but honestly when i actually started reading through the comments myself, i realized it's actually worse than people seem to realize. it goes beyond just teenage edgelord internet shenanigans, this is someone who seems to have a genuine fascination with killing and hurting people, he talks about it a lot and brags about it a lot, he claims that he joined the military because he wanted to kill people and that he enjoyed killing people and he constantly talks about how empowering it feels and how much he misses it.

i've known a lot of people who have served in the military and i've never known any of them to say things like this. but i have heard a few of them talk about meeting certain other members of the military who did. most people who join the military are decent normal people who join for the usual kinds of reasons - Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>Platner bad post #92138405
It's so funny that the hasbara campaign hasn't worked.

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>"There are times in this world when, for the good of tolerance and humanity, you need to kill a motherfucker. Sadly most people who are true believers in tolerance and humanity find that activity repulsive. Which I suppose is morally good, but pragmatically a shortfall."

>>2827272

he doesn't really even understand what is truly wrong about killing another human being. he only thinks in terms of what it means for the person being killed and what it means for the rest of the world, but he misses the most crucial element - what it means for the killer, the person who has taken it upon himself to play the role of god and decide which humans should live and which should die. he doesn't consider that a moral dilemma at all and he enjoys the feeling of having that power, he doesn't see it as a terrible burden to have to live with but as an exhilarating positive feeling. textbook psychopath.

Anti-zionism imploding acussing one another of being pro-israel for being for or against a basic ass socdem LMAO

>>2826896
Most modern day amerikkkan soldiers are overweight retards who have never fought in a war. They’re just as useful as all the fat fuck militia larpers. The only genuinely useful soldier would be a logistics officer and logistics NCO



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🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Aux armes, citoyens ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
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French people deserve a safe space and guarantees for their continued existence on loser imageboards!

Français! Ne succombez pas à l'impérialisme anglochiotte!
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>>2826160
>he'd be stuck in the same trap as Allende
That's the thing, he wants to oppose and be confrontational with the EU to enable France to take advantage of some fiscal rules.
This was also what Mitterrand needed for his reforms to work in the 1980s, but he got fucked by the SME and the germans at the time. In any case, this adds fire on the fuel because our elites are very embedded within the EU, and the idea of a potential candidate that challenges the EU's rule is difficult for them

>>2826160
>covers up for people who do things like hit their wives if they're loyal to him
He would've unironically been ousted if he didn't do that, you think the pretend socdems don't have a legion of women willing to cry rape for 20 bucks ? Half of his party is already a bunch of traitorous cunts but nobody can replace them, what do you think happen if he purge the loyalists too?

>>2826160
>covers up for people who do things like hit their wives if they're loyal to him
He would be cool if he actually did this but in reality he dropped that guy, who he groomed to be his succesor, like a rag over some couple dispute because #metoo was en vogue back then, and anti-LFI forces still bring it up everytime anyway. Magnificent act of self sabotage.
He's Mitterand without the machiavelism (i.e without the balls) as i said.
I like him of course but this is one of those things where you can feel he doesnt have what it take to face reactionaries teaming up against him.
>>2826758
>you think the pretend socdems don't have a legion of women willing to cry rape for 20 bucks?
Ca a été un colossal problème à gauche occidentale d'avoir entretenue le #metooism et le féminisme radical d'une manière générale. Pas aussi négative que l'infiltration likudniks mais au même niveau que les ethnonarcissistes identitaires racisés.
Les gauchistes anti-woke sont une blague car ils viendront nous parler des transgenre à n'en plus finir alors même que le QUI et le QUOI ayant conduit au pire dérives traites, sabotage systématique ou culture anti-sociales a gauche sont assez évident, et ce n'est pas le transactivisme in spite of ent. En fait le seul problème des trans à gauche c'est qu'ils agissent comme des agent au profit des sus-mentioné féministes radicales du au fait qu'ils cherchent à tout prix leur validation et voient les feministes comme les gatekeeper de ce qu'est une femme ou un "homme bien".
C'est un point sur lequel la low oppenness low agreeability de la droite leur a largement servi car ils en ont absolument rien à foutre de ce genre de choses, à raison.

>>2826160
>meant "authoritarian" in the way he centers the party around himself and covers up for people who do things

sure, but that is french politics, it is always extremely centered on one person, not implying that it's good, but with the current constitution there really isn't anything else that works

>>2827257
Justement, Mélenchon est machiavélique dans son choix électoral: il vaut mieux que les radlibs et féministes votent pour LFI même s'il a dû sacrifier son héritier, si Mélenchon n'avait rien dit la plupart des queers et LGBT se seraient tournés vers les écolos ou des libéraux de gauche. Pareil pour les décoloniaux après 2017, si on regarde les choses concrètement c'est beaucoup mieux qu'ils soient des toutous de LFI qu'avoir un parti arabe/décolonial qui pourrait faire beaucoup perdre à Mélenchon, alors que les arabes athées/exmuslims sont très peu et facilement accusable d'islamophobie. Il suffit de voir Rima Hassan parler du Sahara occidental pour comprendre les rapports de force: LFI va pas sacrifier 500 000 voix de marocains pour satisfaire 500 saharaouis. Mais ce que je trouve ridicule avec les zinzinsoumis c'est qu'ils assument pas cette stratégie comme si c'était une question de morale et de "vision du monde"



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Iit we discuss the past, present, and future of Nietzschean Marxism. Because the proletariat is the incipient and new Overman.

Cf

Gorky
Mao Zedong Thought
Leftypol Swoleposters

We will transvaluate capitalism away!
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>>2826816
You know this applies to any non castrated Marxist on this board, right? The entire mission of Marxism is to realize Communism over the decaying dead hand of capitalism.

Yes, we are being trained to conquer galaxies. Otherwise, no revolution would be possible.

>>2826734
this is just the theory of the revolutionary aristocracy i.e. Proudhonist thought from the Paris Commune.

The best of Nietzsche is in Stirner, but he did some great and innovative stuff with not just the Genealogy of Morals, but Zarathustra, bringing it back to the foundations. Also, he thought of you guys as the hell-hounds lol.

>>2826734
Marxism is not being sad that poor people are poor, and
Exploited workers are exploited,

It is the real movement that abolishes the present state of things.

If all you do is wallow in the sorrows of the underclasses you never have the strenght or the power to actually improve their fucking lives.

Like yeah, obviously giving up on your fellow man axiomatically is a bad call praxis-wise,
but also relying on the consent and commitment and consensus of everyone around you is equally insane.
You have to look at things on a case-by-case basis and have a clear understanding of what you need from people and what they can expect from you in that political context, and that means compromising on not being a perfect "leader" nor "caretaker" nor "example revolutionary", like some people are not gonna get you, some people are not gonna like you, and some (good) people might genuinely get hurt by the work you do, but that's the price you gotta pay for being a subject rather than the object of history.

>philosophy
Ick

>>2826779
Masturbatory
>>2826796
>Woken up
From what? The fact we're exploited? Preacher vibes btw



/leftypol/

 

Is it fair to say that most of the culture wars that take place in American politics are merely fights between the petite-bourgeoisie (small business owners) and the PMC?

The ruling class doesn't seem to care about the cultural bullshit since they're not really affected by it. Likewise, the working-class doesn't care about cultural issues all that much either and really only cares about short-term economic stuff like the price of gas. Many of the conservative cultural attributes that are thrown on to the working-class are actually the traits of the petit-bourg (being anti-abortion and anti-queer, for instance).

Right now, in the era of social media, it seems like culture wars and "symbolic crusades" are at an all-time high. Interestingly though, much unlike the culture wars of the 80s-2000s which were lead by the right, these contemporary culture wars seem to be mostly lead by snarky white liberals who overwhelmingly make up the PMC. Take, for instance, something like the backlash against Olivia Rodrigo's babydoll dress: for decades liberals pushed "choice feminism" and told people to stop attacking what women wear, yet now seem very concerned about what women wear. Olivia's dress is an issue for them because they associate it with pedophillia, which of course they link to Trump and Epstein (never mind the fact Olivia is a proud liberal herself who works with Planned Parenthood and pro-Palestine organizations). On an almost identical note, multiple liberal women have raised hysteria over big retail chains like Target and Nordstrom selling milkmaid dresses, calling it "tradwife coded" and saying it's indicative that women's civil rights will be taken away. Obviously, this is bullshit. How could something as petty as a milkmaid dress destroy the decades of feminist struggles in America? We also see this very clearly with the "clean girl" aesthetic being demonized as right-wing or "eugenics-coded" with the heavy makeup/blue eyeshadow look being championed for being (allegedly) progressive. For a leftist, all of these things are simply a case of consumer identity vs. consumer identity.

But that's not the point. The real issue in these contemporary examples is that snarky liberal white women fear the decline of their social and cultural status. Jill from Manhattan is mad that Fynnleigh the Mormon tradwife has more TikTok followers than her, even though what Fynnleigh does in her home in Utah has no effect whatsoever on Jill. Women's Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2827235
>Politics today is fundamentally a conflict between high-openness, high agreeableness, mid-high neuroticism leftists/liberals, and low openness, low agreeableness, low-mid neuroticism reactionaries.
I'd argue conservatives actually do have a lot of empathy, but that empathy is only for people in their in-group. Religiously conservative communities like Mormons in Utah (for instance) are very mutual aid-based among themselves even if they're hostile towards, say, queer people.

>>2827232
You Charlie Kirk, Milo and Talarico example is an N of 3, while the number of rage inducing politicians among both sides number in the dozens. This is isn't scientific.

>>2825988
Isn't this what Gramsci talks about?

>>2827235
How does this analysis square with the fact that even university educated types in Europe are increasingly voting far-right after enough contact with problematic immigrants from Africa and Middle-East? The same people who used to vote for centre-left and centre-right parties are switching to populist right and far right by the millions.

>>2827274
  1. Because there are many factors at play: there are some educated people with no taste, for example.
  2. Centrist parties have generally been incompetent and self-destructive
  3. The center right also tends to appeal to uneducated types. 58% of Germans with only "basic education" voted CSU (32) or AFD (26) vs 40 with higher education (27 CSU, 13 AFD), and I chose Germany at random as an unsympathetic example. (The UK is a total victory for this theory)



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50% truth combined with 50% untruth equals 100% annihilation of reality.

every point on the line between "the world is round" and "the world is flat" is just as absurd and stupid as "the world is flat".

there can never be any convenient model or algorithm or formula for knowing the truth of the world without the application of thought. there are no substitutes for thought.

any time we rely on shortcuts, some kind of simplified universal model, to understand reality instead of conscious thought, rigorous disciplined mental effort, we are practicing religion. god is religion, teleology is religion, dialectics is religion, LLMs are religion.

marx believed that religion is the opiate of the uneducated commoners and that religion only comes from traditional churches and priests, but religion can take infinite possible forms and anyone can fall victim to the allure of a simple answer.
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>>2825980

>this is typical western conceptual projection


Dialectical thinking appears in various Eastern philosophies

>always operating in a dualistic framework


Contradictions can involve multiple tendencies pulling in all directions. This depends on the concrete situation we are analyzing.

>opposing forces that are "eternally at war" with one another in some fashion.


Not eternally obviously. Come on now, you think Marxists believe in eternal social forces?

>there are no contradictions in reality

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>>2826059

you're just interpreting any kind of complimentary pair as marxist dialectics, projecting marxist dialectics onto everything in the world, even to the point of projecting it into an ancient chinese philosophy from thousands of years ago. this kind of projection is standard behavior for every kind of brainwashed religious zealot, it's just like when christians attribute every phenomenon they encounter to the will of god.

>>2825079
Name one major discovery that was determined thru dialectics and not formal logic

>>2826427

dialectics

>>2826380
If something is true, then of course its possible to find people across time and space that have similar thoughts. Do you think people only started making accurate or semi-accurate statements from the 19th century onwards? Nice strawman about Christianity btw



/leftypol/

 

/leftypol/'s most ignored general is back

Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades: Study
https://ground.news/article/earth-is-now-heating-up-twice-as-fast-as-in-previous-decades-study_63acf6

Humanity heating planet faster than ever before, study finds
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/mar/06/humanity-heating-planet-faster-than-ever-before-study-finds

Microplastics found in 90% of prostate cancer tumors, at much higher levels than healthy tissues, study reveals
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/02/260225001250.htm


Was War with Iran Sparked by Water?
https://erickeyser.substack.com/p/was-war-with-iran-sparked-by-water?r=1r05cx&triedRedirect=true&_src_ref=old.reddit.com

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>>2794146
Tbf someone said the choice was Socialism or barbarism.

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>>2794162
sister was right

>>2794293
Even then, a barbarian may still be a noble savage, while the patricians are strategically hostile to the lower orders

>>2794306
trve its time to return to monke

>>2794293
Barbarism has won, it never even was a competition tbh, anything else always was a beautiful dream.

embrace barbarism and fight the monsters, only in resistance humanity can shine.


in a less cheesy note, I do think that we are witnessing the end of global industrial society, productive forces will collapse bit by bit while billions will have to migrate or die. Probably both.



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🎭📽🎬📼📺
>Argue about dvd commentaries, Post your thesis on King of the Hill, Reminisce about a tv show you used to watch but don't quite remember it's title. Just about anything related to shows. Post your highscore on those Ben 10 CN flash games. Anything goes.



OLD THREAD
>>3012
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>>47727
Sorry to hurt your feelings, but your post is really stupid and shows you don't really understand what you're talking about or what you're replying to.

>>47731
>The "characters" of the comics are paper thin and most of the supes are just backdrop. The show is much better character-wise
You didn't actually read it or you're genuinely mentally retarded. You're just parroting buzzwords like "character development" without even knowing what it means. There's plenty of subtle exposition across the entire run to tell you what every main character is like.

>(and with A-Train they actually managed to conclude a character arc in a satisfying way),

They killed him almost immediately because they didn't know what the fuck to do with him, lmfao.

Did you get this "opinion" from a YouTube video?

>>47731
>>47735
Also if the characters in the comics are "paper thin" what the fuck does that make the slopfest that is the TV show? It is carried entirely by the performance of most of the actors (honestly just two, you know which ones) and that's it, it falls apart immediately after the first season with that especially strong episode 1.

This is 100% the opinion of a 4chan midwit. All the themes, parallels between characters, foreshadowing (if someone brings up "asspulls" you just know you're talking to a braindead person), exposition, the escalation with each supe of the week leading to that climax, etc – all of this is completely ignored just to complain le "character development" or whatever. CinemaSins retardation but applied to comic books, somehow.

>>47731
s1 and 2 were really good but then it just gets really meandery and aimless and the last season was dogshit and the ending completely unearned and out of nowhere

funnily its the inverse of the comic, where the pacing is shit to start with bcs its too bogged down in gross-out evil supes stuff instead of the plot proper but where the second half is great with a strong ending

i read the comic long ago and loved it but sure theres plenty about it that sucks or can be offputting to others, its some of Ennis' worst stuff on the whole, but it has plenty of well written moments and character beats and is highly important for a lot of the good bits of the show too despite people acting like the first seasons are good in spite of the comics and not because of them

>>47737
>its some of Ennis' worst stuff on the whole

I don't think that's true.



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Does leftypol play minecraft? I have no friends and wanted to start a new lan world
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>>46994
yah and i like blocked it off and put torches so it's safe

>>46991
If you guys start a large biomes world pleaaase let me know

>>46997
u should still join in the meantime

i would still play if the world was large biomes

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we got a nice little farm running near spawn!



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Hello Sisters and Brothers, I'm looking for some recommendations for TV shows to watch that have a communist tilt to them, or are straight up communist.

It has been such a pain in the ass trying to watch a show that isn't either subtly Zionist or just straight up pro-US imperialism. Watching Scrubs and the Afghanistan war episode comes up. Watching Modern Family and there's constant references to Bar Mitzvahs (with Israeli flags). Watching fucking Hannah Montana and there's a Afghan war episode. Like I know that's ridiculous to mention but I'm trying to say the rot runs deep in essentially every piece of media we watch

I have included The Good Place as good example because although it's not explicitly communist, it is a show all about how Capitalism has made the world hell and only revolution can solve the problem but it still kinda distances itself from that by saying "revolution in the afterlife only". Still the best we've got

Does anyone have any recommendations for stuff to watch?
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>>47582
Yea dude youre a real fucking moron and your take is fundamentally undialectical.

And here is a list of Marxist (or at least adjacent) directors:

Eisenstein, Passolini, Godard, Pontecorvo, Sembene, Loach, Rocha, Tomas Alea, Santiago Alvarez, Boots Riley

Literally off the top of my head.

pretty cool that it seemed a while ago people were more cynical about mass media pandering to them with their beliefs and identities and now it seems people demand to be pandered to xd

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>>47584
you still haven't explained why there cant be communist art - the thing the Bolskeviks and every revolutionary communist party was obsessed with building. Or more broadly why culture is somehow beneath the interests of Marxists.

Your incessant whining is ironically the same culture war bs you have an issue with.

What about Suite Life of Zack and Cody? There's an intelligent teen prole working at the candy counter and a spoilt and dumb heiress

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On King of Queens one of the villains of an episode was a kulak who got BTFO by the anti-revisionist Arthur.



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Hey everyone, my name is Alina, you can follow me on Twitter by searching for anarchsoul. My ideology is Anarcho-Egoism, Transhumanism. My philosophy is Pragmatism, Hedonism, and Progressivism.

Hello Alina, nice to meet you.



/leftypol/

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Why was the soviet union dissolved when the population voted against it?
I thouht the proles were supposed to be in charge? Did ML's lie to me? I dont believe it.
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>>2825545
This is just kvetching and fake news made up by Zionists to justify their immigration to Israel. Jews in the USSR were treated no differently than anyone else.

>>2824564
>an armored vehicle
It was a tank, just call it a tank. They also killed around 1000 people, iirc.

>>2825545
I thought the Soviet Union was a Judeo-Bolshevist plot to kill Christians…

>>2825545
'openly hostile' how?

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>Yeah the hardliners tried to coup the government and failed.
They weren't "hardliners". They were Gorbachev's own handpicked men. And there are theories, that Gorbachev himself was behind it, and others, that Kryuchkov [the main ring leader] had a secret deal with Yeltsin.



/edu/

 

I keep seeing takes on the internet that claim Science™ is Marxist. Is this as wrong as I think it is, and if it's not, why? I haven't read enough of my priors on dialectical materialism to pin down exactly where this goes wrong, but I've taken enough philosophy of science courses to say this is diamat woowoo scientism.
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The subject and object are reversed in the formulation. If Marx accurately assesses reality, then Marxism is realistic; reality is not Marxist.

Reality is not Marxist, that's just a clever quip. The truth is Marxism strives to understand reality and has made theoretical developments with strong explanatory and predictive power. That's the real meaning of the phrase.

>>25809
>I haven't read enough of my priors on dialectical materialism
You're misusing "priors", this phrase doesn't make sense.

Teleology isn’t scientific lmao

Marxism is just a system of analysis, a useful one, and one that holds up well to scientific scrutiny (other, more rigorous analysis) most of the time.

Meanwhile reality is simply there, not analytical itself but infinitely ripe for analysis.



/leftypol/

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Honestly, why people treat Marx as some kind of religious figure? Every time I interact with a leftist that go nut when you criticize Marx, why? Why the dogmatism around Marx? It's genuinely confusing to me, I read that the vast majority of modern economist doesn't even care for Marx and treat him as a historical figure, they still say people still try to make economics idea out of outdated ideas of Marx. Anyway, my main point is: will the left move on from Marx someday or they will forever trap under marxism? Why leftist are so dogmatic?
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the irony is, the way people talk about marx as if he were some kind of prophet or leader was probably the last thing he ever would have wanted. but he probably wouldn't be surprised either. it's easy to talk about collectivism but it's hard to actually think in collectivist terms when you are programmed your whole life to think in terms of Great Man theory, when all your history books and economics books and even the very language you speak and think in are all heavily based on that framework.

>>2827152
he wasn't a prophet, but he was a leading founder of the 1st international workingmens' association, and I don't think a secular leader is the same thing as a religious prophet. see above: >>2826835

>>2827135
elaborate your reasoning

>>2826871
>>2826871
That's so funny since that last bit is exactly the reason western europe (Germany, England?) remained capitalist in the 20th century.
Communism has no bigger enemy than Leftists.

>>2827152
>>2827152
I think the thing about Marx is that he described very clearly and concretely the nature, trajectory and rationale and dimension of some really foundational economic and social phenomena.

So it kinda makes him the Newton of the Humanities,
and if you find like real geeky like committed math bros and engineers who are also a little into history it's also very natural for them to worship him a little bit, because he made life just that much easier for people who need to figure out and then communicate and then apply these things in real contexts with real people.

Marx kind of made that possible but with political economy (not voodoo economy of astrologysing the will of the free market), but also like real world organising, a much less idealistic understanding of history and institutions and the social space, and radical politics of many different kinds, and labor organization and many other things i'm probably forgetting.

It's why rightoid talk about "cultural marxism", it's because it's understood that it's a profoundly different foundation for thinking about these fundamental bits that define what's important and how best to get there.
So it has a lot in common with religion because it has a very broad and coherent all encompassing mapping of the world.
Was Marx a bit of a tryhard in that regard? Should he have kept his cool and just shut up occasionally? From a human perspective probably yes, I mean imagine having people having very strong convictions about your person and your thoughts and your work on every continent on the globe? Yikes!

But the world would be much worse off for it and we would get along less and be bickering over much pettier shit if it weren't for Carlos Marcos.



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Is all radfem literature like this?

This shit is some of the most ludicrous, hyperbolic grievance mongering I have ever read. There's interesting shit floating around in here, but it is drifting in a sea of "every man is a wife-beating rapist who caused all the world's problems." Even though the book is directly comparing Zionism and feminism and seems to advocate for a lady Israel, it's mostly just couched in whining about men. Dworkin doesn't even have the fucking stones to be a strong Zionist. She's one of these wishy-washy Zionists who thinks that Zionists and Palestinians can co-exist, and maybe one day Israeli and Palestinian women can come together and unite against their REAL enemy: men! (lol) (lmao)
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>>25843
Having read some Dworkin, I don't know if she ever directly said that because it seems like she never directly says anything ever. All Dworkin does is complain about men, and all positions she is said to hold seems to be more inferred from the exact way that she is complaining about men in any given work rather than directly stated.

>>25742
>this land was promised to women 3000 years ago, we must eradicate all the men here

>>25844
Yeah I mean the other problem is that Dworkin is a coward. Dworkin's conclusions are trivial and she is afraid to state them outright.

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too much of the criticism agaisnt dworkin is just using token anti zionism and pointing out the fact that she isn't the "infallible uberwoman genius" that terminally online radfem like to potray her as and thus fully discarding ANYTHING and EVERYTHING she has EVER said (or at least the strawman version of her) and continuing to feel confident knowing that there is absolutely no need to interrogate or self introspect their deeply held views, opinions, and habits

>>25830

sophie lewis is (mostly) unnecessary and sometimes just horrid from what i know of her and her writing

>>25839

>The very term "women's liberation movement" in this time-period and in a Western context (that she is almost exclusively referring to) is so retarded as to be fucking comedic, if not for the fact that there are stupid entitled burger-women and men that actually subscribe to this ideological bullshit.


semantic bs

>Women are not a separate class, but an identity. Take off that Soviet flag, you bring shame to Marxism-Leninism.


bro dosen't know about the womb or the role of the housewife💀
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>fully discarding ANYTHING and EVERYTHING she has EVER said
The more I read of her, the more my criticism of her actually becomes that she never actually says anything ever. She just writes books complaining about men and any positions she is said to hold come from inference about the exact way that she is complaining about men.

Which makes some of the more frustrating discourse around Dworkin more understandable. When you try to talk about some of the more radical implications that Dworkin gestures at, the Dworkinites will come out and say that she never actually said that, and they're not wrong because Dworkin never actually says anything. For instance, the only conclusion you could possibly come to when you read Dworkin write about sex and rape is that all heterosexual sex is rape, but there is absolutely no passage anywhere where she actually says that directly. She complains about men and the implication of the way in which she complains about men is that all heterosexual sex in rape, but she never outright says it.



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