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Every few months, people come up with an idea to create a new imageboard, since mostly everyone is dissatisfied with the state of vichan/lainchan, or thinks they can do it better. Having better software would greatly enhance the experience for both regular users and mods, and have more crossover appeal to “normies”. The problem is that no one can agree on the technical or more importantly non technical decisions on how one would go about making an actual, usable replacement for lainchan.

In fact, people don't even agree on whether the imageboard replacement should be an imageboard at all. This thread is a merged, consolidated, megathread of all the various attempts at answering this question that people have made.

Previously, there was a thread on outreach to lainchan, including a strawpoll:

The poll determined it should be built in Java, but a significant minority wanted to use a functional programming language, esp. Haskell, or Clojure/Lisp.

The only way a new imageboard will be built is if multiple people, technical jannies and lurker-programmers, from here and lainchan and even elsewhere, actually collaborate on a single project and concentrate their efforts on this.

There are important technical and non technical questions to be answered.

Namely, do we even want an imageboard?

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I agree. They should allow for bridging though, so bunkers can conveniently backup or act as a cdn for the main board.


It was a jab at java, not PHP.
Look at the hundreds of different ways to do something very simple: write shit to a file.

Half of these solutions will give you magic runtime errors if you try to run them.


an imageboard is such a goddamn simple type of software, I have no idea why there have been so many failed attempts to make a replacement for vichan. I can only assume it's because the people who aren't complete /g/-tier midwit larpers who have the skills to do this have other things they'd rather be doing, or maybe it's because the people who fall into a range of having the skills to do it and the interest to get bogged down in autistic design decisions instead of making something that Just Werks

source: I have a working, albeit very rough, imageboard engine written in Common Lisp that is currently like maybe 300 LOC and I could probably get it polished into a better state, add some fancy stuff like multithreading or liveboard features or whatever, but it's hard to get excited about something that isn't all that interesting


>I have a working, albeit very rough, imageboard engine written in Common Lisp
Why not just add image posting to a proven textboard written in scheme?


personal preference of CL over scheme and also because as I said before, an imageboard is such a trivially simple piece of software that it's not like it would be unreasonably difficult to make another one, as much as it also is kind of boring and pointless

I've seen this textboard engine though and think it's neat for what it is

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Has anybody else thought about how personal computers might just actually suck? What is the personal computer, really? Is it not just "the car" of all the vast potentials computer science offered us? I'm not saying that personal computers aren't impressive and highly practical. What I'm saying is that as soon as our first computer engineers thought of something that could be mass produced and sold to the individual consumer, they said "bingo!" and stopped dreaming.
Do you know what I mean? I'm kind of trying to start a research proect investigating this question. I know a little about early visions of cyberspace compared to what the internet became, and the early vision of hypertext. If anyone has any reading material on what computer scientists were dreaming of versus what actually ended up happening, please send them my way. I might try to write a book about this.
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there are apps for that
deaf people already use computers
yes, there are PCs which track vision
>build my own PC
you can, it's possible
>in a way nobody would think of but me because I'm a special snowflake
c'mon bro, really?

If you don't want to pay for something, pirate it.

If you don't want ads, get an adblocker
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I see it more that capitalists lack the structure and motive to make anything better. The Unix wars showed capitalists can't work together unless under the direction of a cartel (Wintel) or by simply capturing the standards of what people do freely (enterprise Linux distros). If the PC industry was still run by the electronic engineers of the late 70s that simply wanted a computer at home they could play with PCs would be far more open and useful but that was a unstable state for a market under capitalism, once it was clear there was real money to be made the industry got taken over by capitalists proper.


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There have been roughly 5 waves of form factors of computers:

1. mainframes
the operating systems written for mainframes tended to be extremely expansive and general, and thoroughly engineered from first principles. they also provided tons of facilities for deduplicating effort between programs. this is exemplified by multics, where there is no distinction between memory pages and disk files, and where since all memory regions (called segments) were secured with a sophisticated ACL-based permission system, they could be shared between programs and users. the multics people basically tried as hard as possible to save on programmer labor. they defined standard interfaces between all programming languages on the system, and also, made all languages linkable to the shell, thus making all libraries on the system callable commands. due to the memory access being protected by the hardware, it was possible to write the kernel in the same way as the rest of the operating system, thus there was not a distinction between kernel mode and user mode like in modern operating systems. the kernel was just another library that implemented the kernel's functionality. this makes it similar to the modern notion of an exokernel, but preceding it by several decades. multics was so resilient to hardware failure that it was possible to split the mainframe into two computers while it was still running, like a biological cell dividing, by removing hardware pieces and reassembling them elsewhere. it even had a graphics system, though one which is quite alien to the normal understanding of it. basically the graphics system more resembled a CAD program than anything else, but this was combined with a standardized ontology or inventory which was shared between programs. thus for example if you were to define a model such as a teapot, then there would be one "teapot" object on the system shared between all programs, instead of being created and recreated over and over again by different programs. here again you can see the great attention paid to labor saving for programmers. multics had a vision of computing becoming a public utility, charged at a flat rate of computing time. it is very obvious to see the socialist implications of this line of thinking.
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The computer mouse is a dumb idea for text processing. Lots of pointless switching between keyboard and mouse. Check out the keyboard of the Canon Cat by Jef (yes one f) Raskin. Raskin also came up with the concept of a zoomable text interface, but he died before doing much with that.


>Lots of pointless switching between keyboard and mouse.
There are solutions to that… https://keymouse.com/

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Streaming services have reached the "fucking kill as many users as possible so they can't cancel their subscibtions" phase.
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OP's post is stupid but this is just your typical epic channer misanthropy. Yawn.


>not having a central router and dumb WAPs


Because capitalists have gotten so insanely shitty with their fuckery that it's hard to imagine a lie about them that would not be plausible.


youre… youre doing the same thing hes making fun of…


my wet ass pussy goes mad dumb

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There have been a few threads on alternative Android ROMs (like CalyOS and GrapheneOS), but what hardware do you run it on? The closest to a leftyphone seems to be Fairphone 4, but it's €579.00 and only available in a few countries. What are the alternatives?
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I compiled AOSP in a couple of hours with my gaymer rig, is this information outdated?


I bought a pinephone pro because being in the android prison is driving me insane


what you call a smartphone is really a tiny desktop computer or laptop with hardware that requires proprietary drivers that prevents you from being able to install your own operating system

>winblows faggot thinks you need a gayming pc to run linux


all computers made after 2010 require at least some form of proprietary firmware my man

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What would a dialectical materialist programming language look like?
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You mean haskell with wirthian syntax?
I tried this with the example from haskell.org:
function FilterPrime(List PrimeList) return List is

  function ListPredicate(Integer x) returns boolean is
    return x mod List.head /= 0;
  end ListPredicate;

  List(PrimeList.Head, FilterPrime(List(PrimeList.Tail, ListPredicate))));
end FilterPrime;

List Primes := FilterPrime(2 .. Integer'Last);


We'll only know when communism happens.


>and implementing the negate and sublate functions, which work as you would expect.


>Meaning that you could write a program incrementally by implementing a highly detailed domain description. This way, the language itself could coerce you into writing implementations that actually fit the domain, without any incorrect assumptions since they're already spec'ed elsewhere.

3:18 onwards


1. as a prerequisite you must read ten 1,000 page manuals
2. each manual contains long drawn out histories of how the authors of the previous manual were traitors to the project of creating a new programming language, and contradicts the recounting of the previous authors
3. instead of printing stacktraces it accuses you of being schismatic

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My fucking computer exploded wtf?

Turned on my desktop computer just now, then there was a loud pop and a tiny bit of smoke. Goddamn now I got to figure out what part that was. Hope it didn't brick all the parts. Didn't even know they could do that.


What OS, and was it custom built or prefab?


probably capacitor that got too much voltage or smthn


Probably the PSU, I had some die on me like that before.


sounds like a capacitor in the power supply blew up. it happens. buy a new PSU

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Why do people like books, still? All the reasons seem dumb/spooked and highly feels-based to me:

> i just like the feel man
> books smell good dude
> you can like actually hold them and stuff
> wow like sit under a tree bro (e-readers let you do this)
> you can make notes in the margins (e-readers let you do this)
>muh physical bookmark

<a library of 10,000 books will require an entire dedicated room at least, but can fit on a thumb drive in ebook formats
<can't search text quickly and easily
<can't get rid of other peoples notes
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because its less easy to get distracted than on a computer where you can just open up youtube and shit


Ereaders suck and computers are full of digital heroin.


The same book can educate generation after generation if stored properly.
The programmed obsolescence of your shitty e reader will only let you use it for a decade or two, if the blue light doesn't fuck up your eyes and completely claim your very ability to read before that.


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Meanwhile people are still archiving 8-inch floppies that even today mostly hold their data.


>mostly hold their data

wow impressive

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Are USB chargers with multiple ports safe to use? Are the USB ports isolated from each other or can they communicate if they're able to transfer data? If it depends on the product, how do I verify this?


Try connecting to a usb stick through it


i think cheap usb hubs can have this problem but not power bricks

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i hang around the end page of boards here to do some archiving. My problem is that i have this ocd-adhd (idk what it is) thing that makes it so that it's impossible to archive thing since everytime i open my own file i always worry (and believe) that i deleted something from said file or edit said file or mess it. is there any software that could help ? a software or something that could prevent me from deleting or messing or editing the file ?
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You don't want checksums (they can be slow), you want CRC.


If you're really worried, just back up your folder. You can try time machine, or something for windows. Also sometimes the file system you use can be used to keep snapshots, like APFS, btrfs, not sure about windows.

With that, you don't have to worry about losing your data.


im learning to use linux


can i use Arc if i already get used to using MX-Linux ?


Virtual Machines is a way to find out without having to commit.

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I am currently on a tight budget (Broke uygha alert) whilst looking for a new mini PC. Due to being broke, i'm leaning towards buying an intel I3-1220P NUC since it's cheaper and has thunderbolt, but given recent events with Israel, would it be worthwhile to consider getting a more expensive AMD mini PC instead (since only the newer AMD mini PCs come with thunderbolt)?
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What is your budget? Start there.


Intel has been on 14nm process for the.last 6 generations. Latest intel processor is slower than their previous generation. "e-cores" are a meme.

AMD Ryzen is the way to go. You can get a used ryzen 5 3600 for cheap.


Also, will buying intel over AMD negatively impact Palestine?


unironically buy second hand, I know you don't trust them, but you can always flash both bootloader and OS to stay on the safe side.Off lease thinkpads are to die for.


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