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US Supreme Court rules in favor of Google in largest-ever programming copyright case


SCOTUS has ruled that tech giant Google did not violate copyright law by reusing some 11,330 lines of code and other elements of fellow Big Tech player Oracle’s Java platform to build its wildly popular Android OS.

The $8 billion copyright case against Google landed heavily in the tech giant’s favor on Monday, with six judges finding in favor of the company and just two dissenting in support of Oracle.

Google had argued its reuse of the code in question was in line with “long-settled, common practice[s] in the industry,” insisting there is no copyright protection governing “purely functional, noncreative computer code” of the sort it lifted from Oracle to build Android in 2007.


so are APIs copyrightable now or not?

Sounds like google won?


>>Supreme Court justices seem poised to allow copyrights on APIs.
afaik its just how they operate, as their judgements are the highest authority, they try to narrow it down as much as possible. But that means any use/duplication of API will be recognized as "fair use", even if it did end up being copyrighted (which they didnt take a stance on)


Seems like we're safe for now, Lucifer.


>so are APIs copyrightable now or not?
>In 2014, a federal appeals court ruled that the APIs could be subject to copyright in a controversial decision overturning a ruling by Judge William Alsup. (The Supreme Court declined to hear Google’s appeal the following year, letting the appellate ruling stand.) But that decision left open the question of whether Google’s implementation had violated the Java copyright, and Google launched a second phase of the case arguing that the Android APIs constituted fair use. In 2018, the same appellate court ruled that Google’s implementation was not fair use, putting the company at risk of up to $8.8 billion in damages. Today’s decision overturns that ruling, allowing Google to continue its use of the Android code without threat of a copyright claim.

>Notably, then-President Trump’s solicitor general had formally petitioned the Supreme Court to leave the appellate ruling in place, effectively siding with Oracle in the fight.

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I mean you can install Void and update the packages once a year or whenever you want. It's better than installing fucking Debian Stable where literally everything is outdated and meant for server use, plus makes you deal with Poetteringware.


If you don't update, it's going to be outdated, yes. I don't think that's OP's concern lol. The point of Debian Stable is that it's meant to be outdated, meaning the frozen packages are thoroughly tested to ensure their long-term quality, and updates are provided only when strictly necessary, which is very rarely.
An arbitrary user-side freeze of a rolling-release is the complete opposite of that.


Debian Stable is outdated out of the box.


Youre recommending a distro MEANT FOR SERVER USE. Like the other anon says its going to be severely lacking and you shouldnt use it unless you're on hardware from the early 2000s or youre a tech illiterate boomer who only uses the web browser and absolutely nothing else

Whatever OPs complaining about strikes me more as something you see more often on corporate or open source normie software rather than niche libre autism


Did I stutter?

>Youre recommending a distro MEANT FOR SERVER USE.
Meant by whom? Not by Debian project, nor by people who use it on their personal computers. I don't think even red text will help you here.

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I am amazed that more people are not talking about Section 230 here.

What is section 230?


>At its core, Section 230(c)(1) provides immunity from liability for providers and users of an "interactive computer service" who publish information provided by third-party users:

>No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.
>The statute in Section 230(c)(2) further provides "Good Samaritan" protection from civil liability for operators of interactive computer services in the removal or moderation of third-party material they deem obscene or offensive, even of constitutionally protected speech, as long as it is done in good faith.

There has been a consorted effort by the united states government to destroy section 230 in the last 4 years. Destroying section 230 would turn the internet into the hellscape everyone claimed it would become (and to a part has) with the destruction of net neutrality.
This thread will be, from hence forth, for discussion of section 230 and happenings surrounding it.


Both Trump and Biden want to repeal 230, fyi.
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>Missing the point to be a pedantic faggot.

Do you have anything productive to say or are you going to continue to glow in the dark?


You're the one missing the point, I'm only calling you out for talking like a faggot. :)


>We need decentralized anonymous forums like NNTPchan.
Technical solutions are good and necessary but we also need to find a way to deal with the new inquisition(s) that if forming. They are not going manage to close off the internet no matter what they do, it is impossible to stop people from building new information transmission systems from scratch if need be. The General intellect can not be privatized. But we could fall into a info dark age for decades until new resilient information channels can re-assert them self in a way that society at large can access them. We need to self criticize. The open internet is being threatened not only because of capitalism, but also the failure to make good information dominant. The signal to noise ratio is really bad. The internet is a unreliable information source even for researching technical subjects where truth and falsehoods are unambiguous. Figuring out how to deal with the ideological sabotage of capitalism via intentional disinformation flooding, is on another level entirely. Every faction of capital or special interest is funding (dis)information production that distorts frameworks for referencing information, which is far more destructive than mere factual lies.




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>d-don't say I talk like a retard or you're a glowie nigger ;_;
Thanks for contributing to terms becoming meaningless, faggot.

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AMD Zen 3 Launch
Who else here more interested in this than burgerstahn electoral politics?
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Reminder that Marx encouraged consumerism and was only against capitalism putting a brake on letting people fulfill their desires.


Marx died before consumerism existed.


>Gen 2 Ryzen kicks Gen 1 Ryzen's ass. Is yours AF? If not, consider getting a cheap used one. You'll get better performance for less energy use.
1600AF is only like 5-10% faster at best and has the same TDP as 1600.


Nevermind then.

Also I'd use cpubenchmark.net next time, the owner of the website you posted has a bias against AMD he doesn't even bother hiding so I'm not sure how reliable their results are.


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You just lost it too.

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Should I stick with green or amber?


allebei lelijk oetz


green imo


amber looks cool and the warm color is better for the eye, blue light is bad for your eyes.


Amber is the obviously superior choice. It's much easier on the eyes. It's almost like it's making love to me.


Ok, so, if this answers your question.
Fallout New Vegas -> default amber theme.
Fallout 3 -> default Green Theme.
Fallout New Vegas >>> Fallout 3.
Which means.
Amber theme >>> Green Theme


Is there any way to play Steam games without installing Steam itself?
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Why do people use this cancer over actual Wine?


cause shpeed


…Because it works better? Valve took Wine and patched it.

I don't know what answer you expected.


use lutris.
they have some valve applied patch but they also present in wine.
base proton take a shitload time to update, custom proton like egg roll add wine patchs and fix to proton.
there also some game that don't run in proton but does in wine.

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Why even bother with chips under your skin when your eye, palm or face are more than enough?
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doesnt matter, kill cops, riot in prison, sabotage the grid, their tech will be useless unless you let it rule you


Biometrics are not practical, if somebody steals a keycard, you replace the keycard, if somebody steals your palm-print, you can't chop off your hand and grow a new one with a different palm print. Does capitalism have a anti-tool bias ? Fast-food does away with cutlery, smartphones do away with input devices like pens or keyboards, bio-metrics do away with keys. Is it really so bad if you need a helper tool for using an object ? I get doing away with hazardous cans that need a can-opener, but keys ?


Applying for a job or even working requires smartphones frequently, so it is basically required.


Why bother with eye, palm or face when your walking posture is enough?


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Fuck you just had to remind me we can even be tracked by the way we walk.

Surveilance got incredibly scary and it's only 2020.

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Why haven't you taken the fp pill?


I already do it for scientific simulation programming, but I really don't see the point in using it for anything else.


I like OCaml and Scheme


I use clojure. Most of /tech/ knows at least one functional language anon.


Why yes, I have taken the Susspill.


I like Haskell but I don't find it very much use for the things I do.


Boomer family left me hundreds of blank floppies. (You know how Boomers love to collect things they don't use, which invariably become obsolete and become e-waste; they left thousands of blank CDs, DVDs, a zip-drive and about 6 old laptops and a few ancient desktops too. Because they refused to give anything away when they upgraded their stuff.)

Any ideas for what I can do with the floppies?


if there something importing on it you can try to back them up or try to smelt them, or glue them together to form cube or pencil holder or what ever post pics of what you made


If they still work and you don't want them sell em on eBay or gumtree or whatever

Retro enthusiasts still use that shit


You could use them to backup anything important you want to last.


Those are not good for backup, and the typical storage amount isn't much for today's applications anyways.
>CDs, DVDs
These could be decent media for backup, but it depends. Sometimes the data layer can be degraded, if it isn't stored properly or utilizing materials that last long.


If there are any rare, important programs on it, and they aren't already on the Archive, upload them.

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