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 No.10131[Reply]

Does anyone know of any none fucked streaming services? Particularly ones that aren't shit on android? Youtube is trash for a whole host of reasons, especially on mobile. I'm not paying for spotify ever and doing anything on there just assaults you with an infinite amount of adds. Choose something — adds, rewind something — adds, don't skip a song in days — adds. I've always liked pandora and always thought it's a great idea but the execution is rather flawed. It seems to only play new or rarer stuff once in a blue moon. So does anyone know of any non-shit tier streaming?
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 No.10346

Channel7 is fun: https://7chan.org/ch7/

 No.10353

>>10346
>7chan

 No.10354

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 No.10355

>>10346
I was never able to take them seriously considering that 95% of their content was coping and seething over 4chungus

It was manic about it, so fucking weird

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>>10354
No.
Sure give me your ip and home address



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 No.9981[Reply]

Why is lib culture infesting Free Software (or rather, open source) so god damn much?

Contributor Covenant, RMS cancelling, master -> main, it just keeps on going. It seems like everywhere I talk about software that isn't here or 4cuck, 70% of people hold these retarded liberal views. Why is this and what can be done about it?
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 No.10527

>>10484
>The difference is when Red Hat is contracted to run Linux systems, if they find a bug and fix it, they are legally obliged to publish the patch as per the GPL.
That's not true, if they only patch the bugs in their system and don't release it anywhere else then every user already has access to the source code and they are under no obligation to submit the fix or even acknowledge the existence of a bug.

 No.10530

>RMS cancelling
Maybe he shouldn't have said what he did? Even for very based people, there are consequences for saying very poorly worded statements. It doesn't seem to have ultimately affected things, isn't he reinstated?

>Why master -> main

See
>>9983
>Because corporations
This is the only thing that needs to be said. Corporations need to look good.

>>10022
This is where you are wrong. The thing that makes the GPL "strong" is that you can't relicense it without the consent of the contributors like you can with BSD or MIT. Audacity is still governed by the GPL but developers now have to agree to a developer agreement to relinquish their vote should a time come when that becomes an issue. The claim was that this was necessary since many old developers who worked on the project had since dropped off the face of the earth and e-mails sent to them about license changes bounced back. I think Stallman intended necessarily for it to be very challenging and problematic to change licenses for a large project.

 No.10531

>>10081
> I don't see too many college professors filling blogs and YouTube with free college-grade lessons, or open sourced books
Guess it depends on who you are talking about, then. Some of my favorite processors wrote a textbook that they licensed with Creative Commons licenses so that students could freely acquire the book at no direct cost.

 No.10532

>>10105
>SJW
You have to go back

 No.10578

>>10021
Yeah, but does Audacity still have the support of GPL supporters?



 No.9883[Reply]

Why are there no neural networks for making sure there isn't any hidden obfuscated malicious code in OSS yet?
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 No.9899

>>9883
because I will eventually poison it to accept my shitty patches.

>>9894
I don't think software 'engineering' can be regulated as linearly in other engineering disciplines. Laws of physics and heuristics humanities gathered are static whereas exploit writers are always adapting to changing environment. They are always interested in what existing tools and defense mechanisms cannot do not in what it prevents. Software engineering actually have lot more in common with 'financial engineering' when it comes to regulatory challenges and we all know how responsible they are.

Security through correctness has always been the way but even after Microsoft's decade worth investment in formal verification tools we do not have killer language or toolchain that is reasonably productive enough to be adopted in mass scale. Rust could fit the bill but I am skeptical of it for obvious reasons.

 No.9900

>>9899
>I don't think software 'engineering' can be regulated as linearly in other engineering disciplines. Laws of physics and heuristics humanities gathered are static whereas exploit writers are always adapting to changing environment.
Wait a minute, the compiler optimizations that reduce the vulnerability to exploits don't have to be linear regulation, you are taking my building-code metaphor way too literally.

>Software engineering actually have lot more in common with 'financial engineering' when it comes to regulatory challenges and we all know how responsible they are.

No, lawyers write code that is executed by judges, bureaucrats and functionaries, not processors. Brains are not pure logic interpreters. Legal code does not work like software.

>>9899
>Security through correctness has always been the way but even after Microsoft's decade worth investment in formal verification tools we do not have killer language or toolchain that is reasonably productive enough to be adopted in mass scale.
I know about MS's code quality project, but you can't expect a big soul crushing corporation to foster real innovation. There is no way anything new could pass through the membranes of corporate administrations, too many people have made careers out of managing the half broken mess.
>Rust could fit the bill but I am skeptical of it for obvious reasons.
Yes that is the popular example but there's no reason other compilers can't have functionality of this type added. or you could even try to have a pre- compiler as a separate insert into the tool-chain.

 No.9901

>>9899
>>9899
>we do not have killer language or toolchain that is reasonably productive enough to be adopted in mass scale
what ? powerful language that can be proven formally like LISP exists, they're just an unnecessary headache for most applications, and proving programs simply cost way too much when you can just fix it when you see its broken.
We will never, ever have a "reasonably productive enough" way to produce formally verified code, because its way too hard, long and costly.

 No.9902

Don't certain sectors (automotive, locomotive, aerospace, medical, etc.) have their own "building code" style regulations? I did an internship at a company that worked on embedded software for railway signal control and they did have a very specific coding style and some functional requirements like everything had to be redundant. But I am not sure if these were state mandated or just the railway company wanted it this way.

 No.9905

>>9900
>lawyers are not computers and codes are not legislature
I'm specifically talking about defensive programming and how is it similar to law makers failure to come up with sound plan to restrain hedge funds and other market makers not how human minds compare with processor or how legal frameworks can be compared with well defined runtime environment that runs binaries. Beside I said 'financial engineering' as in quants who have to price derivatives why are you even writing this? Wind will not blow in specific airflow with malicious intent to collapse bridge you built but rest assured traders competing with you is looking at everything you do waiting for opportunity to exploit weakness in your model or execution plan.

>MS rant

I'm not talking about their code quality project. I am pointing at their research efforts and its results on functional programming (their ocaml dialect F#), strong types (typescript) and formal verification framework (F* and obviously Z3). They all deserve some amount of criticism but just shrugging them away as corporatism is impotent.

>>9901
Well this is new. When did they invent automated tools to verify common lisp source code? how did they deal with macros?



 No.9789[Reply]

What's the worst that could happen to a laptop with whatever flavor of GNU/Linux that has been left alone for hours, besides getting stolen? Let's assume there's no screenlocker but still need a password for privilege elevation.
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 No.9886

>>9878
maybe not if they could flash compromised bios or install some physical keylogger or other bugs?
(on the software level then yes?)

 No.9945

>>9789
as long as your disk is unencrypted and no BIOS password is set it is easy to boot from a USB drive and access all your data

 No.9946

>hard drive dump
>bruteforce dictionary attack
>bios specific vulnerability
>hardware keylogger (hard to do)
>swap out WiFi chip for compromised one
That's all I got

 No.9951

>>9789
What a shit question. Depends on what was on it, duh. If you really want hypotheticals then I guess the absolute worst is that it could lead to nuclear holocaust.

 No.9959

Someone might install Windows on it.



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 No.9781[Reply]

Audacity may collect "Data necessary for law enforcement, litigation and authorities’ requests (if any)" according to new privacy notice:
https://www.audacityteam.org/about/desktop-privacy-notice/
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 No.9928

>>9922
I love this.

 No.9929

>>9927
>Is this autism all for a name?
Not at all. It's typical mass bandwagoning. Probably started from trolling the forked repos on GitHub and getting banned for it to making their own meme fork that will see some basic activity for a few days then will die down when they realize nobody has the appetite to continue an old joke and /g/ moves on to harassing the next denegrate programmer transhumanist that catches their notice.

 No.9931

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>>9929
You have to go back.

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 No.9940

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>>9931
Why does he have to go back?
>>9929
So it's a little bit of everything? Honestly what does /g/ have to offer that the cookiemonster guy doesn't? Is it just a bunch of unfunny cunts forcing a joke that was only funny within the show's context?



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 No.9732[Reply]

How do we fight back against the crypto-tards? They currently have a monopoly on credibility at the moment and I'm fucking tired of it. With the increasing escalation of tech censorship over the last several years we have ourselves a golden opportunity to grow the communities of censorship-resistant decentralized federations, and the crypto scammers keep managing to siphon people off into their unsustainable pyramid schemes. Every time their spokespersons get thrown a softball interview and every time they seem completely incapable of articulating and justifying their system because, gosh, it's just too darn complicated for the average person to understand! And it seems like nobody is paying any fucking attention when this happens routinely because blockchain and electronic tulip bulbs are some magical mysterious technology that you have to do a doctoral dissertation to understand, but just trust us it works. How do we fight back against the anti-intellectualism of crypto woo?
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 No.9758

There are free alternatives to this crap OP. I think we need to push PeerTube more and stop using anything else.

>>9737
There's no proof that there aren't any good uses for blockchain, but at the moment, there are none.

This is a good criticism of blockchain. https://www.schneier.com/essays/archives/2019/02/theres_no_good_reaso.html

 No.9772

>>9747
Didn't know about it, looks good I think.

 No.9837

>>9742
it's a false dichotomy only if comparing random pyramid scheme shitcoins to paypal, but if you want to buy anything on the internet, and don't want to use a bank card (or don't have one), then cryptocurrencies are the way to go. They have a legitimate use here, mostly though for buying stuff you don't want traced. Not even just drugs. Also it's just effective for internet transactions. If you use monero, it's reasonably fast and anonymous. Way better than handing a website your whole bank card credentials and full name and address. I think that's pretty fucked and how you get your shit stolen or leaked when there's a hack of a service you use

 No.9839

>>9739
Uygha just don't spend any money on the internet whatsoever. Use hard cash.

 No.9917

You could call IPFS "blockchain based", I think thats a pretty good application. I also use Monero to buy drugs lol



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 No.9717[Reply]

What the hell is this garbage? I thought it was a practical joke for a solid 5 minutes before realizing that it's actually real. It looks like a GNOME knockoff. Thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFW27oG9gs8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_11
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 No.10187

>>10171
From checking online, I think I actually went to school with that guy. Basically Ballmer 2.0 but more self-aware.
Good on him though, seems like he climbed the corporate ladder very well.

 No.10201

>>9754
Did you know that I had boobie pictures saved on my computer???!?

 No.10202

>>9798
wtf is tech debt

bro please tell me if i shouldn't make MS Edge my main browser

Are they going to shut it down?

 No.10209

>>10202
>wtf is tech debt
Code jank. It technically works but will make going forward harder.

 No.10329

>>10202
>bro please tell me if i shouldn't make MS Edge my main browser

Are you just not connected to the internet? There's a win10 feature update, months old now, that physically deletes the Edge.

You're can also mostly-delete Edgium, but that leaves you with MSIE11. You can install Firefox, but at this point it uses all the same code as Chrome, like the Edge. You can install LibreWolf, but that's just a fork of Firefoxium with a little less call-home code.

I use Pale Moon, which in addition to being open source is also an actually different browser but is still "modern" allowing for nearly the full experience of the internet once you set it to spoof FF useragent strings. But the developer has stated he won't ever add WebRTC, so no google meet, some sites like how my workplace has timesheets oddly break, and of course Facebook is actively hostile to Pale Moon in particular, and they've finally started querying capabilities as manual spoofing of the latest UA headers doesn't change the fact that comments are getting reversed requiring writing your comment in Notepad first and copypasting in one "keystroke" to prevent the go-to-home invisible character being added.



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 No.9689[Reply]

Nice, now I have to carry my fucking phone around with me every time I want to check my fucking work emails because some prick at IT decided to force everyone on to two-factor authentication in order to interact with the mail server. So much for choosing to opt out of mass surveillance and the socially-malignant perpetual connectedness of carrying a phone everywhere. So much for email being convenient.

It disgusted me when Google and other Silicon Valley monopolies started forcing 2FA on people because I see it as little more than an excuse to coerce people into giving up contact information to better track and surveil them. What's the real deal with two-factor authentication? Why is it seemingly impossible to find an article critical towards it on a simple web search?
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 No.9694

>>9692
>use the secure token
For some reason we have to try out all the insecure authentications, and only when all of that has failed is it allowed to do the secure thing and use a token

 No.9696

>I see it as little more than an excuse to coerce people into giving up contact information to better track and surveil them
You aren't wrong, your IT department is retarded.
https://blog.cmpxchg8b.com/2020/07/you-dont-need-sms-2fa.html

 No.9697

>Why is it seemingly impossible to find an article critical towards it on a simple web search?

We need to break this search engine monopoly over what information is available. It's amazing how you can't find anything critical about entrenched IT shit like "cloud", or 2FA or any reliable information about user data being sold except in obscure mailing lists and niche tech communities.
I hope searx takes off.

Also, "IT departments" are cargo cults a majority of the time. Just blindly following whatever is "recommended" to them through their infra provider like IBM or Oracle, or the cloud providers like AWS or Azure these days.

 No.9702

>>9689
>an excuse to coerce people into giving up contact information to better track and surveil them
Use TOTP instead of SMS.
>Why is it seemingly impossible to find an article critical towards it on a simple web search?
Because 2FA is a good thing. Most people use insecure or reused passwords. Any competent IT department requires it because it massively reduces the risk of account compromise.

 No.9703

I use this for github, no contact information needed, works offline, free software: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.shadowice.flocke.andotp/



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 No.9688[Reply]

hi /tech/ , have you seen the federated chans that are coming along?

https://fchan.xyz is 4chan + ActivityPub. It's a bit rough around the edges, but it's going to be able to connect to other ActivityPub projects like Lemmy and Mastodon later.

https://0chan.vip is a tag-based textboard that will soon gain a scraper. It also has user-managed boards with stickies, permasage, and a "soft delete" that hides threads in board view, but doesn't delete them from the server. see http://0chan.vip/b/meta/

NNTPchan was kind of cool but it was pretty busted. It fizzled out after a year.

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I spent a fair bit of time trying to understand NNTPchan when 8ch was shut down because I see decentralized federation as the only real way to fight back against the CDN-DDoS racket and resist censorship. It was disappointing to me when so many diaspora communities went and decided to just clone the old traditional image board site model all over again without seeking to address how they lost their community in the first place. It was even more disappointing to find out how unpopular NNTPchan was.

 No.9691

>>9690
>because I see decentralized federation as the only real way
if you want that than make a general decentralization layer protocol, that everybody can use to build on top, add something to the general purpose network stack, instead of making specialized applications.



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 No.9623[Reply]

I've accumulated some decent skills in coding/debugging and I was wondering if any of you knew of any job boards that posted odd jobs for programmers to make a quick $ or whatever.

 No.9624

There were some code bounty programs for FOSS maybe they are still a thing?

 No.9625

>>9624
I'll look that up. Thanks.

 No.9626

There's a full service dedicated to this but I heard that the companies totally dominate the code monkeys contractually and they regularly don't pay out



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