/anime/ - Anime

>>29620
>he had these right wing views for decades
I mean, didn't he say something along the lines of "it was more about just wanting to see the system destroyed than any specific worldview" regarding his Zenkyoto days? I suspect it may have been similar with some other guys from that generation >>29610 even if
others were more radical about it at the time. I'm not sure where this "Oshii's work was always turbo leftist" meme comes from beyond a desire to "claim" creators for internet argument points (similar to right-wingers saying K-On is "on their side" or whatever). I've seen multiple people jump through hoops to maintain Oshii's fandom status as a "valuable progressive ally" and suddenly go "well actually very possible to have his chud gamer views on PC culture & still be a leftist". Mind you I think it's true and there are people who still maintain more fundamental left-wing views while saying stuff like that… but not only is Oshii not one of them, this usually comes from people who'd usually never tolerate such comments unless for the purpose of defending a conclusion "the community" already came to.
>im not surprised his first time ever attending a government meeting was sanae takaichi
What about Takashi Murakami, though? He was the other guy at the meeting who's relevant to anime and he doesn't strike me as a partisan right winger. For the record I know some people think takes like "Yoshinori Kanada's fire dragon has roots in classic Japanese art, like Hokusai's Fine Wind, Clear Morning" are nationalistic & right wing but 1. Isao Takahata had similar takes regarding manga's roots in old Japanese prints and he was a lifelong leftist and 2. thinking the idea that Japan has a culture is "dangerous nationalism" is silly neurotic idpol - especially since the retort from American academics & people like Eiji Otsuka tends to be "no, manga/anime were actually inspired by the Americans and Soviets" and from a left-wing perspective, giving America so much credit should be equally "problematic" (mind you it's all of those - they had their own cultural history of telling stories through art & mixed it with western influence like American comic paneling and soviet montage theory etcPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>29621
That entire debate sounds retarded to me, there are primordial examples of "sequential art" from all over the world, but everybody knows that nearly everything we lump under comics today (including manga) would not exist, period, without English and American influence. Is it bad leftism now to admit that the countries with most soft power in history have had an enormous influence on other cultures?
It's arguing over whether the final American influence on manga is 10% or 20% or 80% that seems impossible to logically quantify AND has no meaning other than cryptopol culture war shitflinging.

>>29622
No, I just think it's dumb to *completely dismiss* the influence of older Japanese art because "it would encourage nationalism to make such a connection, given Japan's history" when such a big part of the retort tends to be "well actually no, it was American influence!" - no it's not objectively quantifiable, yes sequential storytelling in its modern form in Japan would not exist without America, but part of why it stands out is their own artistic tradition and analyzing these traditions can lead to really interesting insightful commentary (see Peter Chung drawing a line between things like Bunraku shows and modern Japan being more likely to treat animation as "moving drawings" than "illusion of life" on the Anipages forums back in the day, or a lot of the shit Murakami pointed out). And it doesn't have to be "muh pure Yamato soul" nationalism when China & Korea had similar aesthetic sense & stylization and have a longer history of handling manga/anime aesthetics well compared to, say, America.

>>29621
noone attends government meetings like that without at least some level of support for her, tbh. people have been very much partisan on these things since the olympics, which takashi murakami was even part of

>>29642
I guess it could be a "making the best out of a bad situation" thing, god knows. Maybe I'm coping. I'm likely more "problematic" than 90% posters here but I remember looking up Sanae Takaichi's views (when Takaya Imamura shilled her, essentially going "the LDP will be forever pozzed and Japan will be doomed if she doesn't take over!!!") and thinking "lol, some fringe weirdo, who cares" then going "oh… fuck." when she won.

isn't evangelion filled with gnostic shit

>>28848
i swear every japanese IP that has westernized magic has elements of gnosticism or hermeticism or kabbalahism peppererd throghout because that's more or less their understanding of western mysticism. hellsing, FMA, obviously elden ring, evanjellyon. it's not even why anime of all things, but where else but anime.

also overlord features a character named Jaldabaoth so there

Gnosticism isnt a single religion but a cluster of related groups of ideas if I recall right

>>28839
They in fact made it many times but they hide it so that goym don't see it.

first picrel is certified angkorean classic

Killed 1/4 of his population award (allegedly possibly)

>>27208
>>27210
>comfy khmer rogue iyashikei but its just a group of peasant girls doing farm work the whole time with the occasional bombing in the background
Are they going to be massacring Vietnamese people and killing Communists in the name of fighting "Soviet social-imperialism" and later running casinos and illegal logging and mining operations to fund their insurgency before dropping any pretense of "Communism"?

>>29580
no because that never happened

>illegal logging and mining
>illegal
yeah they were doing an illegal guerrilla (they were the legitimate government actually)

>>29631
You don't even need to shit on Japan for the empire's crimes when it's currently serving a different empire and committing new crimes.

>>29627
>>26419
Oh also, similar to the Ishinomori thing, Tezuka himself opposed regulation of children's media & promoted education + discernment instead (funnily enough this quote is from a LDP publication, but I'm pretty sure he was still immensely friendlier with the JCP at this point & rarely interacted with the LDP https://nou-yunyun.hatenablog.com/entry/2023/03/03/120000)

While that excerpt about horror movies and whatnot is incredibly goofy (still curious where & when it comes from btw), it feels more like a generic & generalized "smh decadent western influence" rant than something that would've resulted in directly targeting local artists for having "decadent content" in their work (especially given their connections with many "decadent" artists). The more hardline radfem stuff meanwhile seems pretty recent.
>>29631
>>29632
The thing is, this is /anime/ and plenty of anime/manga creators historically have in fact been quite repentant. It's easier to go "lol I hope this alien, hivemind culture gets owned" if it's not your country, but in the end it's no different from saying "I hope everyone in the US gets fucked over. Horrible country!" as if anti-imperialists don't exist in America.

>>29634
>it's no different from saying "I hope everyone in the US gets fucked over. Horrible country!"
i mean…

>>26419
>>29634
One more note about >>26419, I wouldn't be remotely surprised if they had writings that labeled American cartoons and comics (which many JCP-supporter creators liked) as "western capitalist decadence" too. Also in the 70s they were anti gay and I doubt people like Riyoko Ikeda agreed with that https://x.com/shiikazuo/status/1218541788719284224; basically suspect it wasn't a "we need to ban all of this" statement as much as mindless reflexive traditionalist ramblings (though I can see how one can lead to the other in the long run).

But it seems to me like a lot of the dumber recent stuff (which they flipflopped about in the past >>24707 but it became a pretty huge focus recently) and the much more common scolding focus came specifically from their interactions with the UN
>>29635
So you'd want to screw over Americans posting here who agree with most of your views? Nah that's dumb.

>>26419

Here's that massive thread (I think): https://x.com/strugglesm7m/status/1823028769046794440

and for the Invidious link:

https://xcancel.com/strugglesm7m/status/1823028769046794440

>>29473
such, but sincerely

>>29473
You like the smell of your own farts, don't you?

One Piece is the most overrated garbage ever
Fuck Oda

>>29411
It is for children. Even worse, Japanese children.

>>29473
>Basically if the CIA *didn’t* respect One Piece, it would be less effective at its job.
the CIA uses one piece in the most boomer "hello fellow kids" way possible you fucking retard, and it's already being phased out because it proved to be useless in mexico. last time they tried to rally a protest with the meme jolly roger, they only managed to gather 300 persons TOTAL.

>>29506
I mean yes that was the message, but you don't have to agree with a story's message, especially if the story is stupid (and Death Note is quite stupid)

>>29465
My friend and I once argued about the death note. I told him I'd do what light'd have done if I got the death note. He told me my type of thinking was "evil". I see his point, but some people, especially politicians have caused more harm to ordinary people than most could imagine. People like them shouldn't be on the top.

>>29597
Light was quite petty with the Death Note and did more than just kill obviously evil powerful people.

>>29597
>I told him I'd do what light'd have done if I got the death note.
i mean it depends what do you mean by that, but killing people who you know have been arrested is probably the stupidest way you could use the death note, anyone else would have put it to better use

>>29489
Depending on how fast you can write, you could probably get rid of most of the worst offenders in under an hour.

>>29145
>(well my dad sat in the room with us but refused to even look at the telly and instead scrolled football forums instead on his laptop)
Based

Did she see the Shinji cum to that sleeping girl? Did she approve? Did she ask you to do the same to her?

>>29219
There is no anime in the forests.

Also a pedo ….

I see this with shonen in general. They keep introducing villains to keep the series going but since the author cant juggle with that much characters they just kill them off left and right

>>29572
Yet another issue togashi and oda got past

>>29574
Girls in suits are toppest of tiers

JJK is for braindead gen z
Avoid at all costs