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WE did it. We scammed enough crypto bros, robbed enough banks, and slaved enough wages to CREATE OUR VERY OWN ANIME!
Months of propaganda and labor have paid off.

Because this is a workers' collective and not a evil capitalist corporation, we all have the right to decide together what kind of story we will force our chink slaves to animate.

Let's start with the Opening
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A "cute girls do the niche thing the author likes" kind of manga but it's about lifestylist communist larping

>>30469
Mine is the same but with cute boys instead. Kinda like Hetalia

>>30464
sounds like something masaaki yuasa would make

There's a sharingan that tells you who is a rightoid and instantly kills them there's also a special greatsword that lenin wields

Marx, Engels, Lenin, Mao, and Castro are brought back to life and survive together on a deserted island in a cool training arc. They come back super jacked and start organizing the greatest bank robbery in history to fund a new revolution

There will also be a sequel series where alien capitalists come to earth and our protagonists must fight them in a tournament arc.

There's a beach episode with alunya and grace

The main villain is Xarm, marx's evil brother who is a neo-liberal and has super powers. He was sealed away for 200 years but survived because he's a vampire.

>>29904
a kino 90s cyberpunk anime that turns into revolution



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was thinking about how ive never seen an anime with legitimately criminal protags. every "crime" anime either revolves around A. vigilantes or B. criminals targeting other criminals, aka its easily justifiable and theres no real dilemmas. no drug dealers, no robbers, no organ thieves etc
great pretender almost did this in the first episode with the protag being a legitimate convict who scams civilians. then they said "actually now he works for an informal looney tunes crime syndicate that somehow has hundreds of actors on their payroll and can do literally anything lmao" which was super lame
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>>30395
you're actually just a sensitive homo

>>30397
Coming from the same anons that cry about society going to shit over a mere dry spell

>>30404
unfortunately you're not talking to the "anons" you think you're talking to. you're talking to me, playboy. and i say you are fucking gay.

>>30410
So I guess we are using gay as a slur now? I thought this was not 4chan?

>>30413
yup. what are you gonna do about it, gay boy? suck my dick?



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Recommend good yaoi for me
Picrel is Warehouse which is actually korean, not japanese, but I think manhwa is close enough to manga
Doesn't have to be explicit, can be full of yearning as well.
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>>30019
Yarichin Bitch Club

>>30170
The rape is still glorified but not in the same campy way of average yaoi stories

>>30100
>>30181
Not true. Women like abs. They just don’t like steroided hyper muscle men.
The “dadbod” is a meme
Unless said man has a lot of money and wit, men with dad bods ain’t getting much action

>>30026
>Is there even a BL anime taking place in a fantasy-world setting? ( or any other setting which is not basically regular romance eg high school )

Most yaoi stories don’t take place in high school what has talking about?
Most are office workers or college students or fanfiction of popular shonen franchises.

https://myreadingmanga.info/hot-and-steamy-bakery-eng/

[Mr Blue Short Stories] Hot and Steamy Bakery: Turning Over A New Paw [Eng]



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/ANIMETA/
General Thread discussing, analyzing and criticizing anime from the meta perspective of Capitalism, Media Culture (Industry) and Socio-Economics & Politics.
No shitflinging, drama, bad faith or baiting posts (e.g. "Trap is transphobic" or "Muh shounen trash" or "(all) Anime is misogynistic"). Keep it cool comrades.

Animation: Treatment of Animators Thread >>617
Leftist Anime Content: Communist Anime Thread >>1417 Communist Anime Girls Thread >>964 Miyazaki Thread >>469
Anime Hot Takes >>1993 so-bad-it's-good animu >>2551
Sources and Questions: Questions and Answers >>4229
E-celebs/Social Media: Ani-tube >>3128 V-tubers >>3388
Story Ideas: /WYOA/: write your own anime thread >>4263
Shounen complaint thread >>3200
Weeb-Otaku-/jp/ thread: /weaboo/ >>4715

Basic topics and questions:
>Is anime bad/stupid/boring or good/smart/interesting?
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Scattered musings:
Imageboards usually function very much like how the ideal liberal and capitalist society is supposed to do so. The basic premise is that of super atomized individuals who are not initially subject to any obligation or responsibility, and the default assumption is that any rule is an inherently unjust restriction of liberty. And liberty, as understood by most chan-cels, is thought of as the right to practice the most depraved of their desires, the license to play out the fantasies of decadent and corrupted aristocrats untempered by the considerations of overall sociality, which is assumed to be inherently nonexistent except under the explicit reign of the "open society" (total bourgeois supremacy).
Yet like liberal society the preeminent assumptions of the imageboard culture don't truly lead to some sort of utopia of liberated "individuals" but instead perverted, Epstein-world fascimile of real society. The positioning of libertarian ideology as the hegemonic only leads to the oppressive, anarchic caprice of both the moderation staff and the userbase, in war of all against all. The anonymity which was supposed to encourage people to speak freely gives way to the monolithization of "4chan culture" as unavoidably the folks try to form a sociality, yet since the lack of names and the lax enforcement of rules leaves the userbase without any real stake in the game the "culture" descends into nihilistic rebellion. The ubiquity of nihilism in these spaces naturally leads to the mindset of fascism, since if the only thing one can do is engage in vulgar rebellion, eventually nothing is sacred, and the "lesson" is that only brute force matters, since any imposition of regulation is assumed to be tyrannous. Thus the people who claim that places like 4chan were hijacked by Nazis are not really dialectical in their analysis of the situation. Is it really that surprising that many of these forums degrade into places stuffed with pornography and hate?
Such is as Engels said.

>>30434
I realized that a while ago but only fully understood it after this site went to shit a few years back. I only visit to check in on some shit of mild interest but I can do without and do so for months at a time. It's a casual hangout at best, with no serious discussion really worth the time anymore.

>>30434
Irony is, most chancels are faux libertines

They’re actually the most square, prudish sort of people
Their only depravity is in fantasy only
But nowadays even they are thought policing of fantasies

>>30434
>Imageboards usually function very much like how the ideal liberal and capitalist society is supposed to do so. The basic premise is that of super atomized individuals who are not initially subject to any obligation or responsibility, and the default assumption is that any rule is an inherently unjust restriction of liberty

You’re wrong

Ideal capitalist/liberal societies are all about responsibility and obligation. Just not practical types. And they’re all conditional and restrictive of personal liberties


What you’re describing is a libertarian society that may not be fully capitalist

>>10491
Culture of animation and similar is not always fascist although, Cam's comment about porn from fascism sort of applies to several sorts of anime, such as the super moe variety, which are borderline pornographic.
>counter-culture
Weeell to be fair most counter-culture is not really politically socialist in actual meaningful way. Really the whole schtick around these subcultures is that they are postmodern phenomena that responses to the failure of the old narrative, which is somewhat tragic when one considers how some Japanese ultra-leftists ꟙtarted producing manga after getting arrested over adventurism; they may have failed the revolution, but at least they could draw out the fantasy. To be fair to the Japanese nevertheless at the least they put their labor into consoomer culture instead of mostly into identity stuff as the Americans dove.
In the Western world you could also argue that the consoomer mindset is precisely that of people divorced from the actual production of the necessities in society.



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what are some anime/movies/series/cartoons that you think that insist upon themselves? To me evangelion is one of them
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>>30312
Naruto Shippuden near the Fourth Great Ninga War arc. Lots of filler episode arcs that should’ve been dealt with in the original Naruto series

>>30312
None, the joke is that this is a nonsense criticism and Peter doesn't actually know what he means by it. If you use it unironically you have officially been outsmarted by Family Guy.

>>30312
Honestly Evangelion lore is wasted on Evangelion.

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The lore in Evangelion doesn’t matter. It’s just a character study with sci-fi window dressing that’s paying self-aware homage to cynical 80s mecha.

It’s like trying to piece together the Twin Peaks lore, you’re missing the point by being a pedant over shit the filmmakers consciously viewed as window dressing. Evangelion is mecha for depressed kids and arthouse weirdos, and that’s fine. That’s what made it unique.

Let it be instead of trying to prove you’re more clever than a depressed autistic guy’s pet therapy project

man PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE FUCKING SHOWERS. Getting hit by waves of STINK and the worst part was it was intermittent like the cloud was bouncing off the walls like the dvd screen saving screens while watching EoE. And people stayed silent throughout. unfortunate!



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what do you think about RWBY as an anime
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>>30318
I cant believe this shitshow is still going.

>>30073
>In the original backstory for Cinder Fall, she wanted milf poontang.

Understandable

>>30318
what are the odds of rwby getting some ai gen shit drama


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>>30428
Pretty low. AI doesn't do good 3DCG and writing wise they've probably had the scripts for V10 for a while, long before AI bot writing was a thing.

>>30423
RWBY это база



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Anime is pretty much the only place today where you can make high-budget, high-production art where sex is a major focus, without becoming outright pornography. There's a lot you could do with that. There should be more erotic thrillers, or gritty dramas about the psychology of sex, or trippy surreal erotica, and really just anything more interesting than mid action with jiggly boobs or comedies that mostly come down to "oh noes I accidentally groped her boob!" I'm not saying there isn't anything that stands out, every few years something does, the Fujiko Mine anime is a recent example of something that felt pretty fresh, but for all the money and attention that gets poured into this genre, it feels like the ambition is almost null.
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>>30344
>Anytime someone suggest making things spicy and edgy, it always ends up in the same people complaining about it being shitty do to “pandering”
No it doesn't. Provide strong proof that the exact same groups calling for edgy media are the ones who invariably complain about it later. If your reply is just something like "people disliked <X>" without specifying who and how you know it's the same group of people that was calling for it, I will rape you and kill you.

>>30406
What did anon say that was wrong? Most media isnt as mindblowing. Its only a onrity that truly is.

>>30407
What else do you want me to say? People complain about horror movies being pathetic because they rely too much on jumpscars or exposure of the horro entity in question, etc.

> I will rape you and kill you


Typical

>>30165
"Media" and "Works" were general terms for this phenomenon long before "Content" or "Drops" or whatever it is you're thinking is the correct term.

>>30408
>What did anon say that was wrong? Most media isnt as mindblowing
Are you actually incapable of understanding the difference between "all" (the claim of the original post) and "most" (your much weaker motte-and-bailey claim)? Do you suffer from some sort of mental defect? How is this difficult to understand?
>What else do you want me to say?
I want you to say things which you can substantiate instead of wasting my time by replying to my posts with half-baked vibes-based thoughts that you can't even defend.
>>30415
>before "Content" or "Drops" or whatever it is you're thinking is the correct term.
What I (rightly) think is the correct term is "art", as I explicitly said in the original post. Is everyone on this board retarded?

>>30416
Art is a work that conveys information, that work is media when conveyed to others. That isn't le heckin' zoomer-speak, that's just semantics. If zoomers are uniquely often getting this correct then good for them, but they aren't the first.



 

i cant watch anything anymore without being irrationally annoyed at how theatrical 99% of anime is. the dialogue, the action, etc makes me start imagining whatever nerd wrote it without experiencing anything even remotely similar.
gimme something real!!
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>>30310
Despite not being very good a lot of the time, ZZ is unfortunately the most class conscious Gundam series. I say unfortunately because I would have liked it if the class conscious one was also the good one.

Amuro and Camille are both ultimately rich kids. They live in the fanciest parts of the colonies, their parents are high level Space Raytheon people, ultimately the war can be a war of ideals for them.

Judah in ZZ is somewhere between working class and lumpenprole. He understands that the rich, either Earthnoid or Spacenoid, care nothing for him. He helps a miner's strike, for god's sake!

New GiTS is so good

>>30309
forgot some. gonna use this as personal dump

new gits

galaxy express 999

land of the lustrous

Princess Utena



i think already watched patlabor movies and jin roh wolf brigade

Something something Hayao Miyazaki

>>30283
"Realism" in the context of this thread is not referring to how believable something is, it's referring to a specific aesthetic called "realism", one that tries to deprive the subject matter of stylistic flourishes like melodramatic dialogue and theatrical action. The Dark Knight might be "more realistic" but it's not "realist". Animation inherently simplifies reality (you couldn't animate a Da Vinci painting) which is why it's always stylized in some direction or another and cannot be strictly realist in the sense that a Tolstoy novel is.



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"Cheap hack of a writer's guide to creating a morally ambigous antagonist:"
>Have a character be a smug self-centered asshole for 80% of the story
>Have him ally with the main baddie and commit some war crimes
>Have him turn on the main baddie after realising that the main baddie had killed their favorite dog (or is going to kill their favorite dog soon)
>Help the main characters for one or two scenes and then be killed by the main baddie
>The main characters in the epilogue are shown standing besides his grave and musing "He wasn't a bad person, after all. Such a tragedy!"

Post examples of this which had annoyed you the most. Shounen genre specifically is ripe with them, isn't it?
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>>30379
>>30382
To continue, people express more immediate vitriol for minor antagonists.
Bad isn't punished for evil, but rather for weakness or lacklustre.

That's why Orochimaru is allowed to live.

>>30383
Orochimaru is figuratively exactly what I said about vengeance, he's kept alive to stop le circle of hatred, that is the narrative reason

>>30384
"Stop the violence" is just an excuse.
People have more contempt for Obito, because of his motives for avenging a beloved female comrade

>>30386
You can't say it's an excuse and then defend vengeance, that's ridiculous, obito was also pardoned post death, that was the entire point of the last fight between naruto and sasuke, that "bad" people are forced by their circomstances (some people here would say material conditions), he wasn't even killed, he sacrificed himself
If you only mean readers talking bad about him, it's mostly because he had ONE death and lost his fucking marbles even tho he still had a village, a family, other friends etc, when pretty much every ninja in the series also had to witness somebody dying at some point in their lives.

>>30390
>If you only mean readers talking bad about him, it's mostly because he had ONE death and lost his fucking marbles even tho he still had a village, a family, other friends etc, when pretty much every ninja in the series also had to witness somebody dying at some point in their lives.

Readers hated on Sasuke for not conforming to. Naruto's idealism in the beginning.

I just notice that MCs who aren't positive goof balls that easily turn the other cheek are seen as monsters.

Hakuryuu Ren from Magi: Labyrinth of Magic
He had witnessed his brothers being killed in a house fire started by his mom, Gyokuen (who was possessed by Arba).

He wanted to avenge his brothers and the fandom hate him for his cynicism



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I lurked across many anime forums, and at this point I don’t think there’s any interesting discourse to be had, leftist or rightist, regarding anime. Of course, due to Sturgeon’s law, few anime are actual gems. But that’s not the point. The point is that:

Is there any point in re-hashing the same old arguments.

Last time I remember, the only engaging discourses among weebs were about Frieren and Drama Queen, but for different reasons.

Frieren moreso for its depiction of demons and its comparisons to Tolkien’s orcs. For those who don’t know, a YouTuber named Lextorias made an hour-long video discussing the narrative problems with demons and the manga’s/anime’s inconsistent portrayal of demons as being absolutely evil, explaining via both in-story and authorial reasons for it, coming to the conclusion that Frieren’s demons are just a badly-written species. What was the reaction to it? Chuds coming out in defense of the series and attacking Lextorias with the kind of arguments he himself predicted and criticised in his own video: https://www.lextorias.com/references/frieren-dilemma/

Suffice to say, he singlehandedly managed to create an entire discourse that lasted for days in Twitter as culture war BS.

Coming up next is Drama Queen, a manga that is yet to be adapted into an anime, and highly unlikely. It’s about humans living alongside with aliens who saved them from an asteroid impact. It would’ve been another slice of life manga if it wasn’t for the fact that it caught weebs’ attention due to the MCs being sociopaths who hate the aliens and are contracted by a shady org that makes a profit off of killing the alien residents whose head is a dude with a double life as an “anti-racist” professor, with said aliens being pompous and arrogant foreigners who are taking up human life.
Long story short, people caught on it as a Japanese commentary on modern immigration to Japan with said aliens being allegory for immigrants. Which immigrants (white expats, Chinese house buyers, US troops, POC non-Japanese immigrants, etc…) is debated, but it’s clearly about immigration from a right-wing POV so far, although we’ll see how it goes since the story is still being published.

But yh, there’s no interesting discussion to be had as these themes have already been discussed to death on mainstream social media.

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>>30141
Another major problem with anime discussion which is also rampant in western media is the constant criticism about Mary Sue

People seem to have a deep hatred for perfect characters unless they’re villians

Everyone wants the main characters to be homely naive goofballs for “relatability”

>>30365
No, the most vocal people in anime circles are the group that deepthroat OP Mcs that curbstomp with zero efforts anything that comes accross them, they just stay in their circlejerk so you pretend only their opponents exist.
Also gives one (1) anime with a perfect Mc that's actually good and not hurt by the MC OP-ness (like slime datta ken, which kills any tension or fight by having rimuru fix everything in the middle)

>>30381
Most of those OP MCs that are worshipped are the snarky ass goofballs

As for your second paragraph, idk.

>>30385
What ? So you want a story where the guy is perfect, but also le stoic gigachad about it ? You should read dante's inferno then lol

>>30387
One Punch Man was close to the mark of the perfect MC that's a stoic gigachad



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