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https://thecartdriver.wordpress.com/2020/02/14/psycho-pass-carole-and-tuesday-and-more-why-anime-features-anti-immigration-elections/

I see a lot of people like in the article’s author, especially leftists, talk about it, and honestly? I’m not seeing it, at all. Maybe because I haven’t been active in the anime fandom for a decade by now (last discourse I got caught up in was the dumb flame war over “elitists” vs “casuals” on MAL), or maybe because I only consoome old (read: 1990s, 2000s and early 2010s) media because I don’t like much of contemporary media, but can’t say with certainty, but I just don’t see it.

Sure, perhaps the proportion of Japanese creators being chuds increased in recent years, but I don’t see that being particularly well-reflected in the current output of the Japanese animation and comic industries. The political messaging of 20th century and early 2000s anime and manga seems to be same as 2020s anime and manga insofar that both are all over the place in equal amounts.

Among “chuddy” anime, I can only think of GATE (literal JSDF propaganda), HighSchool Of The Dead (zombie shounen ecchi horror with big tiddie girls made by a far-right mangaka who hates leftists, supports the JSDF, a gun nut, and hates Koreans), and Frieren (what with the genocided human-like predatory demons being portrayed in deterministic ways in spite of showing signs of actual sapience the story never addresses), but that’s about it.

As for manga, the best I can think of as of late is Drama Queen with many seeing the aliens as allegory for immigrants in Japan, although many can’t decide if they’re supposed to be stand-ins for American/Euro expats, tourists, East Asian renters, SEA and SA migrant workers, Kurdish refugees, or a pastiche of all of them. But that’s like an exception compared to the shit-ton of manga that pushes feminist, anti-racist and other socially progressive themes.

I think it has already been discussed before, but Japan being NPC-topia combined with how being a busherite is deemed as the most acceptable way to express oneself in Japanese politics as opposed to, say, being a Maoist might have a lot to do with why a lot of mangakas seem to be chuds, which is easy as the majority of Japanese people in general are disconnected iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>30250
>actually the protests are astroturfed by wealthy interests and homeless people normies dont care about the bases
Imagine being this cucked. What do they say when some marines rape someone or run them over, "meh it was probably a lib anyway"?

>>30252
It's only cucked if you consider every other japanese citizen part of your identity. (I thought nations were spook and shit ? :V)
They probably are outraged over that one individual that raped someone , but in the end if it's not a friend or a member of your family it's not your problem.


I think most mangakas tend to be right-leaning nowadays because, as others stated, due to dependence on funds from the Cool Japan state initiative, Japanese society’s obsession with harmony at the expense of individual freedom of expression, the NPC-coded hierarchical etiquette ingrained in the language itself, and most of all: Most mangakas then and now are basically either boomercons or petit bourgeois of the least educated nature, as opposed to educated petit bourgeois like Osamu Tezuka. Like, creators such as Hayao Miyazaki tend to engage with the real world, whereas the average mangaka get their inspiration from fanfic and other fiction which makes them more detached from actual people, and the results are there to see.

It’s not entirely “either/or” thing and many exceptions exist, but overall the petit bourgeois will always lean towards reactionary politics, and let’s face it: Most people involved in entertainment are either of the bourgeois or petit bourgeois sorts, so not surprising. Although this you already know.

The only interesting aspect is how much they filter even their domestic politics under the lenses of American culture war slopaganda. Culture brainrot, or a sign that the average Japanese chud wants to be American like all non-Islamic chuds? You decide.

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is pro AI =chudcore?



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Anime is pretty much the only place today where you can make high-budget, high-production art where sex is a major focus, without becoming outright pornography. There's a lot you could do with that. There should be more erotic thrillers, or gritty dramas about the psychology of sex, or trippy surreal erotica, and really just anything more interesting than mid action with jiggly boobs or comedies that mostly come down to "oh noes I accidentally groped her boob!" I'm not saying there isn't anything that stands out, every few years something does, the Fujiko Mine anime is a recent example of something that felt pretty fresh, but for all the money and attention that gets poured into this genre, it feels like the ambition is almost null.
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>>30344
>Anytime someone suggest making things spicy and edgy, it always ends up in the same people complaining about it being shitty do to “pandering”
No it doesn't. Provide strong proof that the exact same groups calling for edgy media are the ones who invariably complain about it later. If your reply is just something like "people disliked <X>" without specifying who and how you know it's the same group of people that was calling for it, I will rape you and kill you.

>>30406
What did anon say that was wrong? Most media isnt as mindblowing. Its only a onrity that truly is.

>>30407
What else do you want me to say? People complain about horror movies being pathetic because they rely too much on jumpscars or exposure of the horro entity in question, etc.

> I will rape you and kill you


Typical

>>30165
"Media" and "Works" were general terms for this phenomenon long before "Content" or "Drops" or whatever it is you're thinking is the correct term.

>>30408
>What did anon say that was wrong? Most media isnt as mindblowing
Are you actually incapable of understanding the difference between "all" (the claim of the original post) and "most" (your much weaker motte-and-bailey claim)? Do you suffer from some sort of mental defect? How is this difficult to understand?
>What else do you want me to say?
I want you to say things which you can substantiate instead of wasting my time by replying to my posts with half-baked vibes-based thoughts that you can't even defend.
>>30415
>before "Content" or "Drops" or whatever it is you're thinking is the correct term.
What I (rightly) think is the correct term is "art", as I explicitly said in the original post. Is everyone on this board retarded?

>>30416
Art is a work that conveys information, that work is media when conveyed to others. That isn't le heckin' zoomer-speak, that's just semantics. If zoomers are uniquely often getting this correct then good for them, but they aren't the first.



 

i cant watch anything anymore without being irrationally annoyed at how theatrical 99% of anime is. the dialogue, the action, etc makes me start imagining whatever nerd wrote it without experiencing anything even remotely similar.
gimme something real!!
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>>30310
Despite not being very good a lot of the time, ZZ is unfortunately the most class conscious Gundam series. I say unfortunately because I would have liked it if the class conscious one was also the good one.

Amuro and Camille are both ultimately rich kids. They live in the fanciest parts of the colonies, their parents are high level Space Raytheon people, ultimately the war can be a war of ideals for them.

Judah in ZZ is somewhere between working class and lumpenprole. He understands that the rich, either Earthnoid or Spacenoid, care nothing for him. He helps a miner's strike, for god's sake!

New GiTS is so good

>>30309
forgot some. gonna use this as personal dump

new gits

galaxy express 999

land of the lustrous

Princess Utena



i think already watched patlabor movies and jin roh wolf brigade

Something something Hayao Miyazaki

>>30283
"Realism" in the context of this thread is not referring to how believable something is, it's referring to a specific aesthetic called "realism", one that tries to deprive the subject matter of stylistic flourishes like melodramatic dialogue and theatrical action. The Dark Knight might be "more realistic" but it's not "realist". Animation inherently simplifies reality (you couldn't animate a Da Vinci painting) which is why it's always stylized in some direction or another and cannot be strictly realist in the sense that a Tolstoy novel is.



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"Cheap hack of a writer's guide to creating a morally ambigous antagonist:"
>Have a character be a smug self-centered asshole for 80% of the story
>Have him ally with the main baddie and commit some war crimes
>Have him turn on the main baddie after realising that the main baddie had killed their favorite dog (or is going to kill their favorite dog soon)
>Help the main characters for one or two scenes and then be killed by the main baddie
>The main characters in the epilogue are shown standing besides his grave and musing "He wasn't a bad person, after all. Such a tragedy!"

Post examples of this which had annoyed you the most. Shounen genre specifically is ripe with them, isn't it?
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>>30379
>>30382
To continue, people express more immediate vitriol for minor antagonists.
Bad isn't punished for evil, but rather for weakness or lacklustre.

That's why Orochimaru is allowed to live.

>>30383
Orochimaru is figuratively exactly what I said about vengeance, he's kept alive to stop le circle of hatred, that is the narrative reason

>>30384
"Stop the violence" is just an excuse.
People have more contempt for Obito, because of his motives for avenging a beloved female comrade

>>30386
You can't say it's an excuse and then defend vengeance, that's ridiculous, obito was also pardoned post death, that was the entire point of the last fight between naruto and sasuke, that "bad" people are forced by their circomstances (some people here would say material conditions), he wasn't even killed, he sacrificed himself
If you only mean readers talking bad about him, it's mostly because he had ONE death and lost his fucking marbles even tho he still had a village, a family, other friends etc, when pretty much every ninja in the series also had to witness somebody dying at some point in their lives.

>>30390
>If you only mean readers talking bad about him, it's mostly because he had ONE death and lost his fucking marbles even tho he still had a village, a family, other friends etc, when pretty much every ninja in the series also had to witness somebody dying at some point in their lives.

Readers hated on Sasuke for not conforming to. Naruto's idealism in the beginning.

I just notice that MCs who aren't positive goof balls that easily turn the other cheek are seen as monsters.

Hakuryuu Ren from Magi: Labyrinth of Magic
He had witnessed his brothers being killed in a house fire started by his mom, Gyokuen (who was possessed by Arba).

He wanted to avenge his brothers and the fandom hate him for his cynicism



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I lurked across many anime forums, and at this point I don’t think there’s any interesting discourse to be had, leftist or rightist, regarding anime. Of course, due to Sturgeon’s law, few anime are actual gems. But that’s not the point. The point is that:

Is there any point in re-hashing the same old arguments.

Last time I remember, the only engaging discourses among weebs were about Frieren and Drama Queen, but for different reasons.

Frieren moreso for its depiction of demons and its comparisons to Tolkien’s orcs. For those who don’t know, a YouTuber named Lextorias made an hour-long video discussing the narrative problems with demons and the manga’s/anime’s inconsistent portrayal of demons as being absolutely evil, explaining via both in-story and authorial reasons for it, coming to the conclusion that Frieren’s demons are just a badly-written species. What was the reaction to it? Chuds coming out in defense of the series and attacking Lextorias with the kind of arguments he himself predicted and criticised in his own video: https://www.lextorias.com/references/frieren-dilemma/

Suffice to say, he singlehandedly managed to create an entire discourse that lasted for days in Twitter as culture war BS.

Coming up next is Drama Queen, a manga that is yet to be adapted into an anime, and highly unlikely. It’s about humans living alongside with aliens who saved them from an asteroid impact. It would’ve been another slice of life manga if it wasn’t for the fact that it caught weebs’ attention due to the MCs being sociopaths who hate the aliens and are contracted by a shady org that makes a profit off of killing the alien residents whose head is a dude with a double life as an “anti-racist” professor, with said aliens being pompous and arrogant foreigners who are taking up human life.
Long story short, people caught on it as a Japanese commentary on modern immigration to Japan with said aliens being allegory for immigrants. Which immigrants (white expats, Chinese house buyers, US troops, POC non-Japanese immigrants, etc…) is debated, but it’s clearly about immigration from a right-wing POV so far, although we’ll see how it goes since the story is still being published.

But yh, there’s no interesting discussion to be had as these themes have already been discussed to death on mainstream social media.

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>>30141
Another major problem with anime discussion which is also rampant in western media is the constant criticism about Mary Sue

People seem to have a deep hatred for perfect characters unless they’re villians

Everyone wants the main characters to be homely naive goofballs for “relatability”

>>30365
No, the most vocal people in anime circles are the group that deepthroat OP Mcs that curbstomp with zero efforts anything that comes accross them, they just stay in their circlejerk so you pretend only their opponents exist.
Also gives one (1) anime with a perfect Mc that's actually good and not hurt by the MC OP-ness (like slime datta ken, which kills any tension or fight by having rimuru fix everything in the middle)

>>30381
Most of those OP MCs that are worshipped are the snarky ass goofballs

As for your second paragraph, idk.

>>30385
What ? So you want a story where the guy is perfect, but also le stoic gigachad about it ? You should read dante's inferno then lol

>>30387
One Punch Man was close to the mark of the perfect MC that's a stoic gigachad



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I once wrote a post speculating on the causes behind the rise of isekai and how the evolution of Japanese anime reflects societal changes in Japanese society beginning from its economic boom of the 1980s, but I’m not sure if it holds up in 2025-2026. Since I’m unfamiliar with otome-type isekai that is targeted to a female audience, I omitted it from my post. Anyway, here’s the main text:

You ever notice how most modern manga/anime releases are isekai or LitRPG slop? That isn’t random, and it isn’t just “bad writing.” It reflects who the audience is and what kind of society they’re living in.
The core consumer base is overwhelmingly struggling, isolated Japanese men in their 20s–30s (and increasingly older), often single, often overworked, often priced out of meaningful adulthood in one of the most expensive urban environments on earth. Many of them peaked socially in high school, before rent, career stagnation, and demographic collapse set in. Their main leisure activity is gaming — especially Western medieval fantasy RPGs — so the fantasy worlds they escape into are already familiar.
That’s why isekai looks the way it does. It isn’t about originality or artistic ambition; it’s about frictionless escapism. These stories let readers imagine themselves transported into a sanitized West European fantasy theme park where their accumulated gaming literacy suddenly becomes power, status, and sexual access. The protagonist can’t really fail, can’t meaningfully struggle, and can’t be morally challenged — because that would defeat the point.
This is also why isekai protagonists are so aggressively generic: They aren’t “protagonists” in the literary sense, as much as the voiceless and character-less player character typical of games like Pokemon Red. The less personality, the easier the self-insert. The less social embeddedness, the easier the exit from real life. These characters aren’t written as humans so much as interfaces.
Are there good isekai? Yes — Digimon, Re:Zero, a handful of others — but they’re exceptions precisely because they violate the unspoken contract of the genre by insisting on consequence, trauma, or actual character development. Most isekai avoids humanity altogether, because humanity introduces risk.
A lot of people blame “shut-in authors with no life experience,” but that’s only half the story. The bigger issue is the ecosystem.
Most isekai originate on web novel platforms that reward speed, familiarity, and Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>29835
if you are not baiting you are hilariously full of yourself. you spent less time working on your post than you expect people to spend reading it. the only thing that could explain your ridiculous arrogance is you believing you are actually the center of the universe, and i hope a fatal and painful accident comes and disproves that notion as soon as possible, you stupid faggot.

>>29836

Wow, you truly are miserable if you feel compelled to send me a death threat out of nowhere. Getting this worked up over a rando post by an anon, when you could have easily ignored it if you really thought it was that bad. Says more about you than me ngl. At least I did get some replies out of it FWIW.

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>>29833
>perhaps you shouldn’t have any issues with linking anything on this board
NTA but there's LITERALLY an Isekai thread with these points being made numerous times by numerous people. And the Evangelion thread and the ANIMETA thread and the Animator thread. Use Catalog you textwalling, rambling uyghur.

>Or why isekai and fantasy are now more prominent than ever
youre like 5 years late you substack larper

>>29825
This. All the complaints about isekai are the same people who indulge in shonen all day, cheering on antiheroes and stuff which is more escapist and idealistic than iseakai



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What the fuck even is the point of harem series? Aren't most of them just romance but with an even greater chance of blueballing you?
Yeah, it SEEMS like pure wish fulfillment, but it isn't even good at that because in most shows there's only relentless teasing instead of any actual romance and the MC only ends up with one of the candidates anyway.
The only explanation I can come up with is that it's just a way to increase the appeal (and thus commercial potential) of a standard romance series by cramming it with different archetypes. Either that or anime fans just love getting teased with no real guarantee of a reward, which would explain a lot, actually.
(Also) This thread is for all the harem anime, manga, light novels/virtual novels etc. Post your Favorite Anime, Favorite Scenes, What you like about them, memes, discussion, lewds and anything in between.
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>>27137
Harem animes been popular for decades

>>27137
>I have yet to see that.
bro is blind :skull_emoji:

>>24315
>>21167
Files restored

Why is there so much animosity towards male psychosexual gratification?
We never get much criticism about reverse harems

>>26896
Average male ≠ incel loser
Incel losers would be shut ins



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I was watching a cartoon from my child and realized that the saturday morning cartoon generation lucked out. Other than some outliers like avatar or adventuretime, the good stuff was 90s-early naughty aughties. This is not just nostalgia but demonstrably true as merch from these cartoons is still popular as ever for kids. I work as a substitute teacher and they still watch our old cartoons and it's actually super weird, I didn't watch captain kangaroo or whatever boomer crap my mom watched when i was a kid.

Batman Beyond Yeah, Batman is a billionaire who has kids running around in tights in his mansion and beats up environmentalists and poor people. But I'll always love the gimmicks and his "rouge's gallery" has the best gimmicks.
Batman Beyond he's not rich he's just a regular kid living in a much cooler dystopia than the one we wound up with. The animation and voice acting are both top notch.
Gargoyles- From the same animation bloc, with some legendary voice acting from Keith David, Marina Sirtis, Jonathan Frakes. A very 'serious' show that Disney wants us to forget that they ever produced.
ReBoot Ever what wonder what life inside a computer would be like if all the 0s and 1s were sentient? Well, a show like this will make a tech nerd scream but it's one of several quality early 3d CGI coming out of Canada during this period.
Animaniacs It's honestly amazing how much SFW 'adult' humor was snuck into these shows. I think I learned more about popculture from Wakko, Yakko, and Dot than anywhere else.
The SlayersThe first "real" anime I saw and it got me interested in anime and d&d style worlds.Pretty thought out lore and universe.

So what are yours comradanons
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>>30050
anime really did fall off in the 2010s though, the decade of cool Japan trying to be a cultural soft power released banger after banger.

pic is 2006 spring anime release and it's just stacked.

>>30106
no hellsing ultimate?

>>30106
This has the same kinda shit that was in the 2010s though.

I miss the 2010s.
Boku No Hero, Magi: Labyrinth Of Magic, Merman In My Tub, Haikyuu, etc

>>30059
>First Tom and Jerry short: 1940
>Captain Kangaro: 1955
Did they take some time to air Tom and Jerry on TV? Because even then it should be from around the same time.

>>29958
Why is it so weird to be greenlit as kids entertainment? I think it’s the most relatable.



 

gunsmith cats full anime on youtube
>In the dangerous suburbs of Chicago, skilled bounty hunters Irene "Rally" Vincent and "Minnie" May Hopkins run Gunsmith Cats, a firearms store of questionable legality. One day, Bill Collins, an agent for the Chicago branch of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, blackmails Rally and May into working with him on a case. The stakes are high, but Rally’s gunmanship and May’s knowledge of explosives are unmatched. As Rally and May unravel the secrets of the case, the two will need to use guns and grenades while being faster, stronger, and better than everyone else in order to stay alive.
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>>27967
They are lesbians in my mind


>>27971
>>27967
mods need to move the thread to >>>/lgbt/

bump after an entire year

>>27971
And people wanna complain about sexualisation of female anime characters



 

women in western animation:
+ Allowed to be ugly;
+ Tastefully sexualized when appropriate (IMO);
  • Not allowed to be stupid;
  • Very oftenly "Mary Sues";


women in japanese animation:
+ Allowed to be stupid;
+ Are oftenly nuanced characters;
  • Not allowed to be ugly;
  • Frequently sexualized to an obnoxious extent;


THOUGHTS?!?!???!?!?!?!!???!?!??!!?!???!?!!
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>>30206
👁️Tourist👁️

animoid genocide

Western animation women aren’t allowed to be Mary Sues. At least not in post-1980s animation.

Also, they’re not really allowed to be ugly much either

>>30206
I think you’ve been watching too many rant vids about “fanservice”
I never get this much whining about seuxalisation of western cartoon females. In fact, it’s often celebrated

Also let’s not forget that male characters are also sexualised in anime but nobody cares about that

>>30174
People who complain about sexualisation of anime characters are just touch-starved neopuritans



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