Not really judging the OP with this since
>>28565 mostly talks about stuff like elaborate systems of techniques & not just the fights being too visually extravagant, but when it comes to the purely visual aspect I think "unreadable nonsensical shit" when applied to anime battles is mostly a contrarian meme in reaction to over-the-top flashy battles catching on to the extent that they did in recent years with stuff like Kimetsu no Yaiba and modern One Piece (of course, such series being hugely popular enforces the idea that such execution is for "lamestream posers"). Sometimes there ARE issues with readability in such fights, yes, but those can occur just as easily in more down-to-earth "traditional" battles. most of the fights championed by people who criticize "flashiness over substance" are still over-the-top and not realistic (cartoons are rarely "down to earth" to begin with) but I think what it really boils down to is the age-old idea that showmanship & exaggeration (essentially stuff that's fun to "the turd-chucking masses, ugh") are worse than perceived subtlety. Here's the pope essentially saying "shounenshit is shit, watch slice of life" in 1323.
Then you have even sillier comments like "Naruto ninjas aren't real ninjas, they're practically wizards!" coming from westerners whose idea of ninjas was formed by anglophone media and have no idea that, yes, ninjas in Japanese folklore use supernatural techniques and ride giant frogs. Or the claim that flashiness is being used to "hide bad animation" being applied to stuff that's obviously extremely well animated under the effects (I saw someone Takeshi Koike's Iron Man trailer back when it was new
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_ej7ZlS2oQ&ab_channel=ComicHeroNews)
I showed that one Luffy vs Kizaru scene by Vincent Chansard, the one everyone shits on for being THE perfect embodiment of unreadable degenerate excesses in modern anime fights
https://x.com/v2TokyoGhost/status/1916530135555002416, to a friend who's mainly into western cartoons and cartoony anime/manga like 60s-80s Lupin (Dragon Ball being the only shonen he's intimately familiar with) and he just went "yeah it
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