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General Thread discussing, analyzing and criticizing anime from the meta perspective of Capitalism, Media Culture (Industry) and Socio-Economics & Politics.
No shitflinging, drama, bad faith or baiting posts (e.g. "Trap is transphobic" or "Muh shounen trash" or "(all) Anime is misogynistic"). Keep it cool comrades.

Animation: Treatment of Animators Thread >>617
Leftist Anime Content: Communist Anime Thread >>1417 Communist Anime Girls Thread >>964 Miyazaki Thread >>469
Anime Hot Takes >>1993 so-bad-it's-good animu >>2551
Sources and Questions: Questions and Answers >>4229
E-celebs/Social Media: Ani-tube >>3128 V-tubers >>3388
Story Ideas: /WYOA/: write your own anime thread >>4263
Shounen complaint thread >>3200
Weeb-Otaku-/jp/ thread: /weaboo/ >>4715

Basic topics and questions:
>Is anime bad/stupid/boring or good/smart/interesting?
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>Comrade Sumipe
Who is she? She's a real looker.


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Deleuze spoke that the great fictional classical narratives in cinema were finished and that now we have a world of incredible possibilities for experimentation with formal elements and affective tones without narrative closures, while anime became a mix and match machine of moe characters and tropes.

There has been a turn towards the predominance of small narratives and the moe-based consumption of characters in the production of anime as well as reception since the 90s (notably from Evangelion) onwards. This is the reason why Azuma Hiroki called it the new "database consumption" of otaku, being the industry a factory of simulacra and moe tropes. It is seen in the prevalence in contemporary anime of animation techniques that prioritize the exaggerated effects of relatively immobilized images over the realistic movement based on action (Disney's animation style). This approach in affection is properly exemplified in Chobits, and many other popular romcom and harem anime.

This idea of ​​"database consumption" also occurs in the practice of choosing not to translate certain words (senpai, etc.), not only because of the ubiquity, but also because the (fan)translators understood them at some level as addresses in the "database" instead of natural words. Taking again the example of "senpai", this term almost has a completely different connotation than just say "teacher" due to the tropes that are ubiquitous in moe culture.


Do Japanese teens want to get away from their society that badly, or are the LN writers simply too lazy to do stories that aren't isekai? Have consumers not gotten bored? Is anime gonna get less popular paradoxically as it becomes more mainstream?


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>Do Japanese teens want to get away from their society that badly
<or are the LN writers simply too lazy to do stories that aren't isekai
Both. Isekai can be good but it lends itself to shitty cheap and no-effort 'writing' and its popular because people seek to escape their reality, especially in the socially repressive capitalist society that Japan has.
>Have consumers not gotten bored
They liked [X] product and so after they finish it, they want more of the same, trying to recapture the excitement of the first time they read such a story, that's the reason many popular Isekai play on some kind of twist like Konosuba or Shield Hero.
>Is anime gonna get less popular paradoxically as it becomes more mainstream
Being mainstream makes it have more general of an audience, but the Isekai trend is going to die down as the consumer market gets oversaturated and people become tired of no-effort schlock.


I hate isekai as much as the next person but in the west you never see the few good niche isekai getting translated.

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Just found out Okinawa is a colony and Okinawans have been genoicided by Japanese and American and are still misstreated by them.
Can I still enjoy summer break episodes?
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I don't care about Japan I just like the cartoons


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>I just like the cartoons
the wall for you


Basques are the indigenous Europeans the rest are steppe settlers #LandBack


don't you have to have a heart attack because of bobba ?.


>original Europeans
maybe they should go basque where they came from lmao

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Why is the school setting liked so much in anime? It cannot just be that the target audience is mostly children, because there are a lot of anime of this sort oriented to older otaku also. Do anime ever make more than passing attempts at portraying so called "adulthood" as a future to be excited about?
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Adulthood is misery with freedom for luxury.
Adolescence is misery with no freedom.
I choose adulthood.


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>writing a story about an adult working 10 hours a day is hard
>writing stories about teens going to school 10 hours a day/6 days a week is fine though

Even fucking shonen manga get censored too much. One Piece cuts out the entire first chapter just because it would be too gritty. Hitman Reborn cuts out alcohol and a smoking hs student despite both of these things being very plot-relevant. The real answer lies somewhere in that it's easier to get something past censors if it's just a boring highschool drama about feefees.


What a fucking bitch


School provides an easy contained setting that is relatable to pretty much all readers: children are living through it, and adults can remember their days going through it. It follows a strict framework that makes it easier to write, given the expected conventions of tests, clubs, school trips, etc., and is thus very convenient for many genres (romantic comedies being a prime example, but not only).

As anons above have pointed out, the Japanese in particular have a weird idealized version of school in their culture whereas it takes this sort of landmark place as "the last time you could be free" since labor in Japan is so nightmarish that once you enter the working force your life becomes hell. This, of course, isn't entirely correct; school life is often quite terrible, with ungodly pressures from absurd and constant testing, tons of drama, bullying, and misery all around.

As I see it, school is chosen as a setting so constantly not for its concrete characteristics, which very few works actually have the guts to delve into ("delinquent" manga often being a prime example), but to follow an easy framework that feels like a comforting narrative device, guaranteeing the reader that nothing really unexpected is bound to happen, and they can read with certainty that their beliefs probably won't be questioned. It's form convenient for a work aimed at mass cultural output. This, of course, becomes absurd in those manga that have schools with like ten thousand students that are functionally a self-governing society, at which point the plot device unwittingly becomes a parody of itself.

The easiest way to demonstrate the way school is merely a convenient plot device is by the problem of parenting and reproduction (in the marxist sense): how many manga set in school have to come up with contrived plot devices (working overseas, not giving a shit about their children, just plain never appearing) in order to remove parents from the narrative, and thus not have to grapple with the actual reality that being school-aged entails: that the "freedom" of schoolkids is in real life anything but, given they must answer to several different authorities they have no meaningful way to recourse against.

I find that for better understanding of these kinds of plot devices reading "How to read Donald Duck", a marxist classic by some folks in the AllendPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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maids just skateboarding
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Goshujinsama, please observe this move I learned today.


>Goshujinsama, please observe this move I learned today.
LMAO this cracks me up, truly a good shitpost.



This thread is great. Good job anon!

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This is a thread only for characters that have never betrayed anyone ever.

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How much of this actually exists? Annie-may that's so embarrassingly incompetent that you can actually sit through and laugh at ironically, like a hilariously bad movie? It's normally a lot harder to do because every bit of animation has thought and effort put into it, so it just comes off as intolerably bad when it's bad. Unlike an incompetent movie, which is much easier for someone with a handheld camera to half-ass their way through to a finished product. Pic related, Psychic Wars is fucking terrible.
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The dub only made it better.


To be fair, for all its stupidity, it had an interesting premise, and the 90s/2000s style makes it a gem of so-bad-its-good.


I've never been this insanely bored watching something,the ending is litterally the only interesting part and it makes no goddamn sense,like you're telling miss useless tsundere was actually playing 5d checkers with time travel when she has done nothing this entire time ?
the animation is shit outside some very specific episodes too (and even then it's good for 2 minutes and it goes back to talking about nonsense for 10 minutes to pad out the runtime),half of them are about ininteresting randoms or they're straight up insane.
I personnaly didn't find it funny,but I can understand if somebody did.


Looking back, I don’t know if this was bad or ahead of its time…


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Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu. I'm definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Tvåldtäktzohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjuPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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She's not the worst TBH, certainly not as bad as a lot of other female characters in Shonen, and has her moments, but yes she has plenty of issues.

The side characters, especially the teams that are given little coverage like Iwabee or Sumire, Inojin included. Mitsuki started off intriguing but kept having his potential nixxed.


also what happened to inojin's english VA? was watching and it suddenly changed. i wanna know what happened but i cant find anything about it online.


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was he an author self insert?


No, that's Jiraiya

 No.731[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Tomoko thread… why? Because I like the character… and other reasons…
Post lewds (spoilered), memes, edits, pics and anything else related to the subject
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no i don't, but if she goes to school then by definition she isn't a hikkikomori, just an autistic recluse


I just read the post you were replying to. Yeah she's just an introvert that hikki on the internet can relate to.


Friend you misunderstood the joke. The joke is that she would go along with something like that because she is (was) desperate to fit in and kind of gullible.


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I bring you muscle Tomoko!


jokes on you im into this minus the vascularity


Judge me all you like, but I love a good power/skill progression. What are some anime or manga that have a really nice progression? I've always been fond of Berserk's build up of Guts as the ultimate warrior, to the point where you really believe a human can defeat a demon.
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Kuwabara from Yu Yu Hakusho and Yokoshima from Ghost Sweeper Mikami (who even surpasses the main character in popularity polls).
Both anime ended before that happened, by the way.


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>who even surpasses the main character in popularity polls
You love to see it.


i never could get past the beginning because i find medaka to be annoying as fuck, is it worth reading the whole thing?


Seeing the thumbnail it looks like he's holding a fishing rod, kek


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>but jet, you are black and you are male
<everything about Vicious
<all of faye's soy-banter dialogue
<Ed's actor getting done dirty with cringe direction and cringe costume design
<tying everything in to the syndicate unintentionally making the world feel that much smaller and therefore less interesting
<dutch angles fucking everywhere
<Julia becomes a power-hungry asshole with almost no in-universe character motivation given
<the entire sequence of mad pierrot hacking into ein's brain
<Vicious magically knows about Jet's daughter when we're given every indication to believe he's been obsessively focused on his coup d'etat leaving all of his dealings regarding looking for Spike and his associates entirely to the viewer's speculation
<the green screen for spike falling out the church window looks like absolute ass
<the hilariously placed "PORN" sign during the rooftop fight with Hakim
<the scene in the S&M dungeon that felt like something out of a 2000s National Lampoon comedy
<detailing the spike/vicious/julia backstory ends up backfiring because it takes what was initially something mysterious and partially left to viewer interpretation and turns it into something that comes off incredibly ham-fisted and unjustifiably stupid on every single character's part

why, anons
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i think it looks cool. there's something ostensibly cringe about it but somehow my head still registers it as based because of how free and pretty it seems


My only real complaint is Vicious looks like Knock off Dante from DMC


should have got Tarantino to direct it


I don't care about sticking to canon unless its really important to the characterization of a story. Netflix Bebop is just poorly done as a stand-alone, it being an adaptation only makes it worse. The Resident Evil movies aren't great and are very divorced in areas from the game, but as standalone films still have decent story-telling and plot and the 'bad' parts are part of the cheesy charm, this is just boring.


Mmm no, not older anime.

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