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Anime, even as it is more popular and mainstream than ever before in the West, has really lost its relevance. What do I mean? Anime doesn't really inspire people anymore. It's not a statement about its quality, but I mean its real life impact.

In the 70s, 80s and 90s anime was almost a youth movement. In the Philipines, Voltes V was a symbol against the Marcos Regime and was banned because of this. Gundam inspired millions, it caused massive quasi-political rallies of young people who followed the show's idea of a new generation building things better. The police literally had to shut this down. Then by the 2000s there was Haruhi and so on which, if maybe not so political, really did get people out onto the streets and again got the police called on them. Conventions were a serious culture. Even if anime at this point was really inbred, it still brought people out. But nowadays there's no such thing. It's not really that subversive or exciting. Conventions go on but they aren't like what they were (no yaoi paddles). We do still get like loads of children wearing Demon Slayer cosplay but it's not like Yamato. There's this energy that just isn't there anymore.

Perhaps this is because in Japan itself the street movement has died down and become so neutered? It's sort of related to how anime has lost its left wing creators. The people working in the 80s grew up in a really radical time where socialism and anti-imperialism were normal and most people directly interacted with that crowd. Naturally, even if works weren't explicitly socialist, the attitude was reflected. Nowadays that political movement is completely dead. Radicalism is hated in modern Japan. Serious topics are still covered in progressive ways, but something is lost. I don't know, lets take season 2 of GITS SAC where Hideo Kuze is just openly right, the show tells you he is correct. And then in Psycho Pass which is only 10 years later but with a completely different set of people making it who have a different philosophy (the director only really started working in the 2000s), the bad guy just does bad things and is a psychopath, and then the only reasonable option is to uphold the system when given a chance to change it. Maybe the issue here is just GITS is much better written, but I think this can explain a sort of change in anime.

It's not that radicalism can't be shown since the 2000s, its just they are always single characters acting as lone terrorists. I think tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>26156
>Isn’t the show just the adventures of white base going around fucking shit up against a group that justifiably seceded? (I didn’t really watch much original gundam to be honest, this hand of mine does glow with an awesome power, though.)
The basic premise of the show is that Aryan spacenoids want to create a spacenoid master race and do away with Earth people because living in space gives you psychic powers. The show follows a good spacenoid with psychic powers fighting to stop the bad spacenoids. Hope that made it clear for yuh.

>>26158
One of the cool things about Gundam unicorn is that it briefly talks about the political dynamic between Earth and the colonies and how existential this conflict is for the Earth government because the colonies have the (theoretical) resources of the entire solar system, so Earth has to keep their boot heavily on the spacenoids' neck for as long as they can, otherwise the balance of power is going to rapidly shift.

>>26629
They do the same for music and movies.
Irony is, methinks the dumbing down of pop culture is due to people trying to make things more profound than they need to be.
As the popular saying goes: Art for Arts sake.
.most of our genuinely profound masterpieces are often made when the creators were just noodling around wanting to make something because a mood struck them.
They weren't intending to make a statement in the first place,it just happens.
Meaning is only found when you let the art speak for itself.

Fukuyama was onto something with his end of history theory, but it was Stalin who described its true nature decades prior as correctly pointing it as a period of blackest reaction.

In this era, capitalism is more insidious than ever - From the creative side, it stops being about the human spirit and becomes a vessel for mammonism up to its very core, and this trickles down not only from the investors but from the creatives themselves as they, as most people, struggle to see a way out for our modern troubles that isn't straight up apocalyptic.

And even if a work about positive societal change being good and possible gets popular, it still won't resonate with the audiences in a way that propels them into action, we're all too isolated for that to happen spontaneously nowadays.

As an aside, IBO was an excellent yet not perfect show which portrayed bottom to top change (revolution) as messy, violent and even morally unsavory, but ultimately justified and even righteous.

The main gripes I often read about it appear to be born from the same malaise affecting otaku since the '80s, as many renowned directors have observed (and lamented) them over the decades:
>constant, relentless nitpicking at inconsequential "plot holes"
>boiling rage at the ending not being happily ever after for the main cast
>obsessively watching how the plot develops through the lens of the producers (as an outsider no less)
>plot developments that otaku disagree with are derided as shitty writing no matter what
>"too little action" and too many "boring" scenes
>show had no proper waifu war bait and not enough booba
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>>26630
>That anyone can miss it makes me cry for today's critical reading watching skills.


People always missed the point



 

How come there isn't any Alunya impersonator!?
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>>26813
>>26807
She's been pretty open about it on her recent twitch streams from what I've seen.

>>26813
>That's Futakuchi Mana
Yep, that's her. I discovered her and obkatiekat while I was looking for metal VTubers. Because screw J-pop, I'm not a complete weeaboo, thank you very much.

thoughts on vtuber trollface phonk edits?

>>26813
>As an side, AI helps me with my thicc ESL accent thoughever.
twitch/youtube link?

ok so I found a 2view that plays a female character, the only problem is that half of the time they forget to do they voice and they sound like yung chomsky. I wonder if it is intentional, like a non-binary identity so to speak



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what anime directors would you like to see adapt capeshit? Hasn't gone well in the past but god damn it eventually someone's gonna make a good one

I will accept "keep capeshit away from my japanese animes" as a valid answer

imaishi

>>26783
Oh hell yeah. Imaishi would be a perfect fit for the zany side of western cape stuff. I'd love to see him do Green Lantern.

I'd like to see Koike or Oshii do something

>>26785
>'d love to see him do Green Lantern.
I'd be more interested in a Deadpool anime from Imaishi. Or even an anime starring Joker as the MC. Or Kick-Ass.



 

Do you read/watch battle manga/anime? Which one's your favorite? What about battle seinen?

Also, do you think battle seinen is less cliched or it just has more gore and yuri? Would popular series like Dragon Ball have come out better if it shifted to a seinen magazine? Because in the case of JoJo its writing became more complex once it switched.



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My headcanon is that Ozai was sexually abused by his father as a child and never got help, and this is part of the reason he ultimately had became such a monster.

I would say this is believeable both because Fire Nation is a pastiche of Edo Japan and Imperial Japan, first of which is one of the infamous examples of pederasty-tolerant societies, and the second of which is infamous for perhaps commiting more wartime rape over the course of a single war than any other society in history, and because from what little we had seen of him, Fire Lord Azulon seems like the type of person to whom it would be not out of character to molest his younger son.

Now live with this, you all.

ok…

>>26255
NOT AN ANIME



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This 1st chapter for new manga came out and it has certainly made a impression on western anime fandom. They are claiming it is racist, xenophobic, etc. And honestly, I can see it, with the characters saying some similar language to said people. But someone also brought up as an anti-west or anti-colonialist themes, with them being against the occupation of their planet. Ultimately, its barley 1 chapter out, so I don't want to judge it just on this
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anti-posadist garbage

>>26515
>anti-posadist garbage
if ture sad
don't bully posadist gang :^C

>>26352
>The whole car scene with the alien getting away with crime is a Japanese right-winger talking point with kurds having access to cars and crashing them, supposed mass crime and gangs, and believing the media is covering for them
Or it's a reference to American soldiers getting away with fatal hit-and-runs in Okinawa which has happened multiple times.
Ultimately none of us can tell what's going on in the mangaka's head, but I guess it's fair to say that if you write a story trying to communicate something (seems to clearly be the case here) but the audience has zero idea of what you're trying to say you probably fucked up somewhere.

>>26290
You sure about that? Childrens media has had revolutionary messaging before.


>>26357
> i do miss when people just didnt read something they didnt like as opposed to making it everyone’s problem.

😂😂😂😂😂

Bruh, you really feel for the nostalgia cool-aid.
Bruh, people always sought out things to be mad about.
When comic books first came out, adults were buying them to showcase its "corruptive influence on the youth."

Bruh, you guys trying to make it out to be somekimd of anti imperialist series lmao. It seems to me that there is something up with mc and that she is making shit up about getting “beaten” in first chapter there are like 3 times hse gets “hit” but we never get to see it happen, just the result.



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Why do people constantly call the saga of Tanya Mangaka a communist? just stumbled upon the guy's feed and it's full of boomer takes, SDF shilling(this is the complete antithesis of the JCP), and anti-communist retweets.

On top of that, Riyoko Ikeda(The Rose of Versailles) who was a member of the Japanese communist party in her youth is now doing interviews with LDP and butt buddies with a senior member. The Riyoko one is far more shocking than the nazi anime girl
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>>26738
i dont disagree but saying this in a thread about artists is funny, like theres anything to be gained in bothering with them as a communist

>>26740
I'm not so stupid as to think we can win just by having the artists on our side, but we're talking about people who produce stuff that gets seen by literal millions, often tens of millions; that's not nothing. Zero percent of communism has been built, we gain more from having these people as propagandists than from trying to ban drawings of big titty women.

>>26742
lol propaganda. every idiot here always places ideas before reality. and quoting a fucking video game?

before i get the usual reply theres a huge difference between IRL agitating and educating proletarians who are already mobilizing and vaguely leftoid media made by and for the middle class. morons always want to pat themselves in the back for doing irrelevant shit because their class position makes them completely impotent

>>26743
>and quoting a fucking video game?
A quote you recognized :^)
>every idiot here always places ideas before reality
And everyone who pretends to have read Marx thinks proles will automatically become revolutionary when the right time comes and no effort is needed to persuade or direct them, after all they'll be "already mobilizing". Guess we'll just see how that works out!

>>26730
>Just how involved is she with the JCP really?
She is VP of Human rights now! https://hrn.or.jp/eng/about/board-members/, the president is Niikura Osamu, who is more closely linked with the JCP, endorses them, and does seminars for them. Both are apart of the attorney associations IADL and JALISA, you'll see all their names sat right beside rows of JCP members if you look up any petition letter from them directed at the government. You'll just find anyone associated with the tokyo attorney bar linked with the JCP. It's no coincidence the same politician she met with made the call to ban it a few days after the meeting or perhaps it's the NGO that should shoulder the blame
>>26579
>Tetsu Kariya
He has been travelling china for the past for years championing the uyghur issue, he's really invested into it and I'm not sure if norikoenet cares for it or not



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When I was a wee lad I read Katawa Shoujo and ended up really liking Emi. She hit all the right spots for me personality wise. I finished her route with the impression that she was supposed to be the token tomboy among the main girls. To my astonishment, when I went on the Katawa Shoujo forum I found out that other people did not consider her a tomboy. How? She's the athletic, bold, energetic girl who likes to play rough. Did I not just describe a tomboy? Is it because she doesn't "look" like a tomboy? Ridiculous. It was as if at some point I had been transported to bizarro world where the word tomboy had been hijacked by pathetic fetishists who now tied the word tomboy to physical appearance.

As the years went by I found myself highly attracted to 2D girls with varying types of what are culturally seen as masculine qualities. Like the aforementioned athletic, bold, energetic, likes to play rough but also aggressive, assertive, emotionally reserved, brash, vulgar, messy, short-tempered, rhetorical, analytical, philosophical, gluttonous, as lustful as a man and so on. In other words, women who behave like the worst and best of male cultural stereotypes. Do they "look" like tomboys? Some do. But even then I have nothing in common with the pathetic fetishists, the most egregious and possibly loudest of which circlejerk over 2D girls who only "look" like tomboys and otherwise do not deviate much from the assumed average girl who on top of that unironically fantasize about turning said "tomboy" into a traditional 1950s cooking, breeding and raising servant (read: wife).

Don't believe me? Give a definition for the word tomboy. Then objectively think of all the fictional girls who come to your mind that fit that definition. How many have you never thought of as tomboys?

It's not just the word tomboy that is being systematically destroyed by pathetic fetishists. The word gyaru did not simply refer to physical appearance alone, but a whole subculture. To be a gyaru it's not enough to dress the part, you also have to act the part else you're a poser right? That's how subcultures work. Gals are stereotypically vain, airheaded, trendy, extroverted, socially intelligent, gold diggers, Americaboos and so on. Today? Shy gyaru. Awkward gyaru. Recluse gyaru. Tomboy gyaru. Normal girl gyaru. Otaku gyaru. Of course a character turning out to be different from expectation is funny on the occasion, but when every gyaru is effectively a poser gyaru thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Although the show is far from perfect, I enjoyed it, reminding me of older, darker samurai media, and the main character is a total Tomboy. Episode 5 especially hit hard.

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I know this meme has sort of passed at this point, but every time I see leanbeefpatty and particularly the "mildly muscular women think they're gods/know your place" picture or its illustrated variants, I recalled this thread and the discussion about fit short-haired girls not necessarily equivocating tomboys.

>>24711
Legendary theory thread is legendary.

I will never stop thinking about stupid shit.

0. The "tomboy fetish" as we call it does not exist as a single category. The term might perhaps be appropriate in the minority of cases where it can be considered one manifestation of the general androgyny fetish (another being a fetish for male or female crossdressers, flamboyant men, etc.). Rather, in most cases, a "tomboy fetish" is a coincidence of related fetishes such as muscles, short hair, etc., which tend to be associated with a few major personality or physical traits.

1. Attraction to tomboys is paradoxically often commensurate with an attraction to certain particular aspects of femininity. This is most obvious with the strong muscle "mommy" archetype. The woman's unabashed strength and assertiveness are explicitly tied to the traditional nurturing, motherly aspect of femininity. Another example is the popular archetype of the Artoria-esque female knight: quiet, dignified, gentle and graceful, qualities that are often attributed to male nobles but far more often are befitting of female ones. A "female king" seems more naturally capable of the kind of warm, comforting presence that propaganda often attributed to monarchs.
This ties into the idea of the "beautiful fighting girl", a common trope in Japanese media and often present even in anime that is quite sexist or rejects the notion of women filling male gender roles. In these strange cases the point of the show is not to promote the idea of female strength, but to indulge in the fantasy of a protector who is at once competent and comforting.

2. All this only addresses one aspect of the tomboy fetish, which is strength (physical or otherwise). Another aspect is vulgarity, particularly profanity, but also manifesting in certain fashion choices, unabashed sexuality, etc. In these cases it seems the attraction lies in the explicit flouting of feminine norms; unlike in 1., it can be said in this case that if these norms didn't exist, neither would the fetish (if everyone is naked all the time, nudity ceases to be erotic). In this case the attraction boils down to the thrill of rebellion and defying taboos, a fundamental component of many fetishes. Furthermore, since all people are some combination of masculine and feminine traits, even the idea of *which* masculine traits and in what quantity result in a "tomboy" (and thus to the perception of flouting of femininity that is necessary for this fetish) will be heavily relatPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>24711
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>>26670
1. on this I'll agree that there's an element of ageism involved
2. It's the live-and-learn part of a person's life. It's when a person basically has to feel out for themselves how to connect with people. When it goes wrong, it messes them up

>>26674
Methinks the real reason why bad relationships mess up people is because the pre-existing expectations of how relationships are "supposed to go".
Romantic love if we were to really examine it from a detached perspective is probably more selfish and destructive than lust.
Lust is at least easily relieved by rubbing the genitals.
Romance is not .
It's about trapping people into an eternal movie.
It's about trying to recreate your favorite movies and books, willfully ignoring or rejecting your partners for not looking/sounding/acting according to your impressions.

>>26675
You’ve never actually been in love, have you?

That’s not what it’s like. You’re describing just toxic assholes.

>>26711
Well, then most humans are toxic assholes then.
Not all faux pas is caused by willful toxicity.

It can be just due to honest to god rigid impressions.

>>26725
>most humans are toxic assholes
YES.



 

Kodomomuke is easily my least favorite anime demographic because it's mostly just manga for preschoolers but some series do look like they wouldn't be entirely out of place in a shonen magazine if they were a little bit less kid-friendly. Those are the most direct equivalent to saturday morning cartoons, although the protagonists/deuteragonists still seem to be mostly little kids (like Chris from Sonic X). I tend to enjoy them more.

Do you know any other series that are similar to this or should I just entirely stop caring about kodomomuke entirely?



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