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Anyone else is disturbed much when burger media (well, or Jap media) vindicates purported good guys commiting war crimes/crimes against humanity? For me personally the first thing that cames to memory is the infamous scene where Optimus Prime executes Sentinel Prime with a shotgun as wounded and defenseless Sentinel screams for mercy, accompanied by heroic music and followed by "le epic badass" shot of Optimus standing.

Now, in theory Sentienel surely deserved that by virtue of being a traitor, a backstabbing murderer, a Transformer supremacist imperialist who planned to genocide humanity and massacred human civillians, someone who is himself okay with slaughtering begging for mercy POWs, and an absolutely horrible father figure to boot, but, like…

At that moment, Autobots had already won, and there were no urgent need for violence. And Optimus did not gave Sentinel even WW2-USSR style военно-полевой суд trial! Like… aren't good guys good because they do NOT unlawfully murder in cold blood?

But the actual worst thing is the real-world implications of that. Bayformers were literally made as an USAmerican army propaganda movies, and continue to blast USAmerican vision of the world to people watching them to this day.

I cannot shake off the feeling that is not statistically improbable that this very scene had directly inspired at least one case of NATO invaders killing surrendering Lybian troops, or Ukronazis killing surrendering Russian/Eastern Ukrainian troops.

Or am I being an idealist again and freaking out about superstructure when I need to freak out about the basis?

No, you're right to feel that it's fucked up. Personally I think it's a disturbing trend also.

Pretty emblematic of the American ruling class mindset. No mercy for the defeated, no compromise with the enemy, and a "hero" that's willing to do "whatever it takes."

>>26211
I’ve also seen a trend of characters recalling fucked up stuff they did, because showing instead of telling would force them to produce a fictional gore vid, and then afterwards people don’t act shocked or disgusted because the perpetrator did their duty for le country or felt bad about it.



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This movie:
>literally promotes a divine right of kings
>justifies literal predation of the lower classes by the higher ones
>its narrative in relation to Hyenas is both racist and near-perfectly aligns with a fascist vision of the world
>becames a worldwide sensation, cult classic, most sucessful animated movie in the world for two decades, is uncritically consumed by millions of people, including some queer prople and left-leaing liberals, while substantionally less reactionary Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter face increasing scrunity even from centrists.

Amazing what the power of the furry does, isn't it?
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>>26218
The empire immediately fell into disorder after he took over + he's homofash

>>26219
>The empire immediately fell into disorder after he took over
No one said making a revolution would be easy, especially dealing with so many saboteurs. Scar turned the most reactionary animal kingdom into a modern equality zootopia and killed the royal family. He even spared the children, big mistake.
>he's homofash
That is what the liberals always say to justify bourgeoisie morality.

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It's impossible for animal allegories to be anything but reactionary because the most fundamental thing about them is that they split "society" into a taxonomy of immutable categories.

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>>26223
>immutable
So what about monster girls?

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>>26223
it is impossible to do comparisons or metaphors, because A is always different than B.



 

gunsmith cats full anime on youtube
>In the dangerous suburbs of Chicago, skilled bounty hunters Irene "Rally" Vincent and "Minnie" May Hopkins run Gunsmith Cats, a firearms store of questionable legality. One day, Bill Collins, an agent for the Chicago branch of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, blackmails Rally and May into working with him on a case. The stakes are high, but Rally’s gunmanship and May’s knowledge of explosives are unmatched. As Rally and May unravel the secrets of the case, the two will need to use guns and grenades while being faster, stronger, and better than everyone else in order to stay alive.
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>>26199
>so have we found an overall name for that vibe yet?
Uh, hardboiled? Exploitation fiction? John Woo?

>>26200
i love john woo, i'll call it that from now, but Exploitation works too.

not sure about hardboiled, the black and white noir genre has taken over that word

fellas be honest would you want to see a gunsmithcats continuation today or is it best left it as it is? i'm not sure it can survive the current dead internet discours, it'll either be praised for being, how you say based ancap anti-woke animu by retarded xitter crowds or the reverse

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>>26200
>Uh, hardboiled? Exploitation fiction? John Woo?
i used to call them grindhouse lol

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>>26201
>>26200
>>26203
Hardboiled is generally a sister-genre to noir, with a private detective protagonist solving a mystery related to prohibition-era organized crime. Stuff we're talking about tends to borrow elements from it, like being about freelancers and often having a conspiracy to uncover, but it's definitely outside that very specific subgenre.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardboiled

Exploitation and grindhouse are more about graphic/explicit content and being edgy, not just being about the "seedy underbelly" of society. The point is that they're provocative in an attempt to grab attention. Like clickbait. It's more about the spectacle than the vibes.

"John Woo" implies a pretty specific visual style and action choreography that's usually intentionally paying homage to John Woo. It's often included in modern action stuff but it's more related to the style of action than the story or setting.

None of these things are mutually exclusive, but it's more like they're adjacent to or a component of this kind of story.

>>26202
Not everything needs to be remade/updated/continued. If somebody wanted more of this type of story they should come up with something original that fits the present better.



 

what happened to anime that made them stop producing kinos and only slops?
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>>26180
>what happened to anime that made them stop producing kinos and only slops?
Too much shonen. Go watch seinen like Redo of Healer I mean-

Look, there's simply too much anime. I think you know what a "seasonal" is. They pump out anime almost every month, it's insane. This all leads to overwork and loss of visual quality, along with more and more works being based on light novels which are faster to produce and more dialogue-heavy (which really, REALLY helps in cutting costs on animation). It also COINCIDENTALLY happens that they are mostly isekai or romcoms! You can pump out seasonal after seasonal because this cheap Japanese equivalent of pulp fiction just never fucking ends. Not like stuff like battle shonen or even thrillers and dramas are produced less. It's just that in the past it was a big fucking deal because we weren't spoiled as much with cheap pulp ready for consumption.

Also, when it comes to battle manga, anime was never a good medium for it to begin with because anime is always trying to play catch-up with it instead of waiting until it's fucking finished. At least there are manga cuts and fan edits.

What recent anime movies did you watch that was slop?

buncha non materialist explanations here smh

it's because japans post war miracle economic bubble burst. japan will keep declining in this way because their economy is inextricably tied to the usa's

>>26190
>buncha non materialist explanations
The rapid expansion of mass production with the reduction of production costs due to cutting corners is NOT a materialist explanation?

>>26192
imma b totally real w u dawg. i just sorta read the first line of your post. sorry



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are any of you powerscalers by any chance?

which protagonist from which anime can beat goku?
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>>26174
I think powerscalers usually measure characters in "no items, Fox only, Final Destination" kind of scenario. Obviously a certain character who doesn't require food can wait for the other one to starve to death but that wouldn't be a "fight" now would it?

>>26175
It's more that the judgement of how the abilities scale ignores context. Like the meme is that Batman can beat anybody with prep time, but Batman doesn't prep in a vacuum. Batman's prep is powerful because of the resources he has at his disposal by virtue of his status in his universe. Drop Batman into some other verse and he doesn't have the connections or the technology in the Batcave. But aren't those things part of what makes Batman Batman? Yeah. And that's the more fundamental issue with powerscaling arguments - characters don't really make sense outside of their own settings. They're not actually existing people, but narrative devices serving a purpose within a story. From a narrative perspective One Punch Man can beat anybody because that's the point of the character. In fiction, characters usually aren't "balanced" according to some consistent power scale. They exist to win or lose conflicts according to what is dramatic, and often what is dramatic is for the weaker character to win. The entire concept of powerscaling is reducible to media illiteracy.

>>26176
You have a point, but it's still fun. Why can't people have fun with the lore? Fanfic writers are given a pass, why not powerscalers?

And can Batman really beat anyone with prep time? Is he like Saitama or something? Or does he rely on the JLA to do all the work?

>>26171
because if i see some fuck saying a character is massively faster than light because they dodged a lazer i'm gonna have a aneurysm.

>>26178
"Lazers" in fiction are garbage. It's like the writers don't know what a lazer is.



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i always wanted to make a /co/ thread for leftist discussion, but i have no idea where to put it? most people would shove it off as "cape-shit" or "not Japanese" how ever i think that's the problem, viewing manga as separate from other comics. I consider myself a comics fan but love alot of manga too. and would really enjoy if people didn't segregate just because it's right to left. and if you really don't want a /co/ thread then were go?

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>>25277
Anon, Comics and manga are separated because the way they developed is massively different and impacted by the cultures of America and Japan. While they have common roots, they are different things.
As to where
There are plenty of /co/ threads on >>>/hobby/
>>>/hobby/1328
>>>/hobby/15233 (the old thread)
Also Western animation and capeshit threads too.

I frequent both there and here, but /anime/ was formed because people WANTED there to be separation.

>>25277
Manga is very different. Smaller size leads to less panels per page and more creative panelling, 60+ pages and a weekly format lead to better page flow, more dynamic fight scenes and less compression, anthology magazines and creator ownership lead to more stand-alone series that never change authors, the black-and-white printing leads to faster drawing, sharper shadows and more detailed art, etc., etc. Manga is so much different in fact that it influences Western comic book authors too, Daniel Warren Johnson and Bryan Lee O'Melly are prime examples.



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I didnt want to ask this for 20 years because its stupid question. But what culture is Popo's look supposed to be inspired by?
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Tvrk b*ll

>>26081
Racism culture

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He is culturally appropriating traditional Namekian outfit.

>>26082
That would be Semi-perfect Cell.

argentinian

>>26081
Indo-Arabian. His clothes are those of jinns and his }ody resembles that of Mahakala. Also, he was planned to have a design of a yogi early on.

I mean, sure, blackface wasn't frowned upon in Japan back then but maybe his design is just an unfortunate coincidence.



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My personal idiotic yet hilarious headcanon is that Redwall and Squirrel and Hedgehog happen in the same world, just at different points in history - one at dawn of feudalism, other in the late days of the imperialist order. It actually makes an absurd amount of sense if you think about it lol. Hope if DPRK ever makes a remake, they add in a character from Flower Hill off-pawly mentioning Cluny the Scourge as the legendary person from distant past, or something like this.

Cool

>>26118
Somehow I don't think the dprk would do that lol. But your headcanon is cool

DPRK animators are bretty gud, Kim Jong Un needs to drop some new 🔥🔥 fire prolekino 🚨🚨



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i never read a manga in all my life i have no idea what bersek or vinland is about, when i want to start reading any my attention span goes off because my monkey brain is more into moving images but at the same time i get bored after the 5 first episodes. damn you brain
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>>26128
oh boy sounds cool

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>>26128
>TheAlmightyLoli

>>26129
Fuck that, this video singlehandeldy made me a huge Berk fan. I'll try to yt-dlp it. If that fails, I'll OBS that shit and upload.
>>26133
Yeah, unfortunately this video is the only quality content dude made. Not only is his channel name insanley cringe, he's also a gamergate-fag and a couple of his vids attack wokeness. Super retarded but this video's good, trust.

>>26125
Sheesh, and I thought my attention span is shit. I can't read classical literature but I love manga. The moment I pick up a manga series my free time just vanishes out of existence. Although I do like poetry and text adventures so maybe it's a matter of taste rather than poor attention span.

>>26134
You can download videos with YTDLP and then turn them into webms with xmedia recode if you dont agree with the uploader and want to deny them clicks.



 

What do you think about the Obsolete anime? It's really cool and well realized, it explores how these alien mechs would actually be used in different circumstances. I really liked the anti-imperialists, they were so cool and I like their mech designs. I just wish that they were the main characters, they have so much more going on with their idea of the mechs being able to topple the west and level the playing field, rather than boring Amerikkkan area 51 marines which the show obviously focuses on.

The part where Abrams tanks got owned by jumpers equiped with RPGs was kino.



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