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Someone quoted this book on the main board and I started reading it. Maybe others are interested to read it as well and discuss its content.
Has anyone read this already? In that case, what's your opinion on it?


The author repeats herself a lot. She‘s also using some words in a manner that‘s not colloquial which isn‘t that big of a deal but can be needlessly confusing. She also uses them synonymously which is redundant and could also convey a different meaning if you didn‘t know she meant them synonymously. Still an interesting read though, those are just minor things that bothered me.



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Hey /siberia/

I always wondered why does Geography get looked down on by engineers and programmers

Like it's only let's say half a social science

But the other half concerning landscapes, resources, weather, etc. including maps (believe it or not measuring physical stuff is not the domain of social sciences) is 100% a natural science

To be honest even outside STEMbros I've noticed regular PMC and petty-bourgeoisie types being disdainful towards anyone with even a passing interest in Geography, god forbid studying it

Why is this the case?
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>>21337
I can't really blame them for having a God complex at the time of Newton, that shit was crazy.

>>21320
>Social sciences bad
>No, I will not learn skills outside of my field of expertize
>Natural sciences can LITERALLY answer ANYTHING, philosophy is useless and cringe
>My field requires big brain therefore my field is superior
>Why don't you use maths as often? Maths are clearly superior to English

Geography can get in the way of certain projects being practical / logistically viable, and that means baing told no by someone that isn't their higher up.
It's only when someone knows geography that they encounter this issue, so knowing geography is Woke; because when truth is known, the truth has a monopoly on being the truth, while if the truth is discarded, then many 'truths' may compete with eachother in a marketly manner.

>>21351
yeah thats true at least back then it was some real groundbreaking shit they must've been so hype

I don't think this is a generalized thing, but even if it was, who cares. Programmers have had their brains scrambled up trying to reconcile how socially useless their job is vs how well-compensated it is

t. programmer



 

What are the best books that provide an introduction to economics and economic theories/concepts?
These books don’t necessarily have to be socialist/communist.

<23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism
And tbh basically most of Ha-Joon Chang's (neo-Keynsian biased) work. I'd also include his Economics for People.

Read this thread, OP, it has the same question
>>10791

Investopedia and that Anwar Shaikh book



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I hate G.E. Moore so much. His entire career was built off of declaring unfounded assumptions as true because, just, like, come on man. Trust me.

Look at his argument against hedonism. Henry Sidgwick says that "good" only exists as an objective property in one context: within conscious experience. He argues that beautiful objects cannot have any value in the external world, and that only the images of beautiful things within a mind are beautiful. In other words, he argues that things are only beautiful when they are perceived. G.E. Moore says this isn't true, because he imagines a world that he thinks looks nice, and then another world that he thinks doesn't, and says it's just intuitively obvious that the first is objectively better than the second! But you're still just comparing things in your mind, not things in the real world! The only thing you've demonstrated is that it's better for you to think about the first world than the second, not that the first world contains any objective quality that makes it better than the second! Someone else with opposite aesthetic tastes to your own could think about both worlds, and come to the opposite "intuitive" conclusion! You haven't provided any evidence for your assertions at all! It's madness! And they let this guy into Cambridge?

G. E. Moore's dogmatic adherence to intuition will forever live in infamy in one of the worst arguments in philosophical history, dwarfing his already quite stupid argument in favor of objective beauty. He claims to prove that we can be certain about the existence of the external world and that all skeptical hypotheses are false, because… the external world exists and all skeptical hypotheses are false. He just declares it, and so therefore it must be true. No epistemology needed. Damn. Why didn't Descartes think of that? Just think really hard that something is true, and then it must be true.

Ray Monk called him "the most revered philosopher of his era." Kill yourself Ray Monk. Fuck G. E. Moore and fuck intuitionism.
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>>21239
Have you never considered that skepticism about the external world is pointless idealist navel gazing that doesn’t warrant a serious response? The point against hedonism does sound lazy but it is not as though ethicists never appeal to moral intuition. It is a major reason why these thought experiments are so valuable

Dualism is occidental autism that seems to never end
"But what if this is all a dream?"
Then its a dream, faggot, whats the difference?
I cant stand it. It just reeks of teenagers coming out of a philosophy 101 class.
What i at least like about the argument from intuition is that it gets past this false screen of "epistemology"
>"but how can we know?"
<"because we know. Next."
Its like how mao appealed to common sense in his own perspective. Things that work, work.
Give me a blue pill. Give me a steak. Plug me into the matrix. Thats the only reasonable conclusion in my mind.
>"but this isnt the REAL world…"
<"oh, it isnt? Oh well. It feels real enough to me."
Cope OP. And what is your "philosophy" anyway? Scepticism forever? You choose to live in doubt?

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<hits pipe
>so like, you say that things that look good aren't necessarily good bro?
>but what if i imagine, say, a soyjak and a gigachad
<blows smoke in your face
>the soyjak is bad so gigachad is good right?
>gigachad is a big handsome boy with muscles, and soyjak is a lanky bald loser with soy and no muscles
>furthermore, soyjak is crying and pissing his pants, while gigachad is unperturbed and smiling
>he's fucking smiling dude, and the soyjak is admitting his defeat
<falls asleep

>>21240
>>21242
To be honest, philosophy is more or less word games for adults. .

Philosophy is intellectual laziness.
Because most people cannot get into actual science. So philosophy is the closest thing that can get.

>>21246
I agree
But without games what would life be?
Most scientists also read philosophy for a bit of perspective too



 

I read this article and it claimed that leaders of the anti-gov protesters were acting entirely in self interest and that majority of casualties were soldiers of the PLA who were murdered by the protesters when they tried to solve things peacefully.

Is this true? I don't trust western propaganda one bit but this is the tiananmen square massacre!? I don't want to jump to conclusions right away. What are your thoughts on this?

I also tried to check the sources and I got a 403/404.

website:
https://www.liberationschool.org/tiananmen-the-massacre-that-wasnt/

pdf:
http://76i2c3hn55fcj5nut3tqlboqqbbh23zvphv7lefk3vftpx6wketlanyd.onion/leftypol/src/1682222954384-0.pdf
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>>17974
>Capitalist readers be like: hmmm today we will do bourgeois liberalization and we will crack down on people self organizations
The student protesters at tinyman square were western backed color revolutionaries who thought Deng didn't go far enough with liberalization and also were butthurt racists who wanted African exchange students kicked out of Chinese universities

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And old bunkerchan debunk that is missing from this thread, it is in leftybooru

>>17902
The CIA is a raeely g00d epxplanatoin


>>17965
I see slurs in a lot of threads so we think this place is still pretty edgy



 

What are the best historical examples of ousting concillatory/bourgeois leaders from the trade unions? A few specific events and detailed context would be incredibly helpful as compared to the profound but broad insight that Lenin's works have. I don't expect people to write essays here, just topic to look into since just searching up "change" or "resign" along with unions comes up dry on material to study.

>What are the best historical examples of ousting concillatory/bourgeois leaders from the trade unions?
None

I don't have much to say about union history, but this thread deserves more than the shitpost that is >>21209 so have a recent anecdotal account.
Two (potentially three) of my country's education/teachers' unions have just outed pro-Zionist leadership this month, socialists and pro-Palestine voters constitutionally forced a vote for a statement of solidarity with Palestine, had a democratic supermajority and the leaders resigned in protest. Apparently one was a radfem too.



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It was a dress rehearsal, without which the final victory of the proletariat in October 1917 would have been impossible. (Lenin)

The revolution of 1905 came as a surprise to everyone, although Russia had been going to it for a long time. For example, the American historian Richard Pipes considers it a prologue to the student unrest of 1899. The Minister of Foreign Affairs Alexander Izvolsky believed that the tsarist regime began to collapse even under Alexander III, and the publicist Mark Vishnyak counted the end of the autocracy from the mid-1870s, when Alexander II stopped the Great Reforms and decided to" freeze " the country. Russia and the ruling dynasty could only be saved from revolution by the introduction of a constitutional monarchy. But the last Romanovs, in an effort to preserve the unshakable autocratic foundations of their power, eventually lost everything and led the country to the catastrophe of 1917.

Interactive map of the 1905 revolution
https://libcom.org/history/interactive-map-1905-revolution
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>>9761
"Jambourg" is apparently a francization of Yamburg, now named Kingisepp, after Viktor Kingissepp, founder of the Estonian Communist Party in 1920 and a Chekist before then, executed by the Estonian secret police in '22.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Kingissepp

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I read this book lately; it's extremely good. Shows how the Red Army organised and defeated the white guards and Entente.

The 1st Cavalry Army
Frunze with RKKA troops
Captured white tank in Crimea, 1920
Red Army troops on an armoured train

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So as it turns out, I actually know very little about imperial Japan, aside from very surface level things such as attempting to become a new colonial power. The only thing I know is that it didn't have a concrete racial science like Germany had developed under the nazis, although I could be completely wrong about that since I learned about that from a reddit post. I'm actually still unsure if it had a concrete ideology or rather a mishmash of idealogies but I have no idea if that's correct either.

If I got any of the above wrong feel free to correct me, and I'm also wondering if there are any good sources for learning something about this.

The book "War Without Mercy" by John Dower is a good source for Imperial Japan's views on race. It's been a while since I read it but IIRC they had their own racial classification system but it was different from the ideology of the Nazis



 

This has annoyed me for a while and I would like to have addressed this for people who are also interested in this subject. I am not studied in physics and specifically quantum physics. I just take a general interest in this subject on the periphery of all the other things I am occupied with. When learning about physics through popsci videos and occasionally reading articles on the matter it has always bothered how nonsensical ideas and contrived theories are spread on this subject, and that shit needs to die.

You‘ve probably heard claims before such as
<„Consciousness collapses the wave function“
<„The collapse of the wave function produces a parallel universe for each possible outcome“
<„A particle could be anywhere until it is observed“

Much of this is straight up bullshit and some claims are an aberration of technically correct statements turned fantastical and far fetched.

First of all, „observe“ is misleadingly phrased. This gives credence to a consciousness-centered explanation of the wave function‘s collapse as people think of a person looking at something when they hear the word „observe“. By „observe“ physicists actually mean that a device physically interacts with something to measure a physical property. We aren‘t simply looking at something when we „observe“, instead we are physically interacting with it.

Additionally, the wave function isn‘t real. The way this term is used it makes it sound like it‘s a physically existing entity in the world. It isn‘t. The wave function is a mathematical abstraction that describes that we approximately know where, for example, an electron is probably going to be, whilst lacking precise knowledge where exactly it is UNTIL we have „observed“ it, i.e. physically interacted with it through a device that pinpoints this incredibly small object that we could otherwise not locate. The „collapse“ of the wave function is having moved from probabilistic knowledge to discrete knowledge. „Collapse“ yet again makes it sound like as if we are dealing with a materially real thing when in fact the term is just a mere abstractions describing the amount of knowledge we have about something on the quantum scale.

The wave function is not collapsed by consciousness. Your consciousness is the emergent product of neurochemical processes inside of your brain that are stiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>20867
> By „observe“ physicists actually mean that a device physically interacts with something to measure a physical property. We aren‘t simply looking at something when we „observe“, instead we are physically interacting with it.

If you stop privileging the forward arrow of time (which we hallucinate because of our biology) you'd realize that all the light we see actually originates in our minds as electrochemical signals, exits our eyes, and terminates in the nearest sun. I have resolved philosophy. Everything is nothing and idealism/materialism are simply a matter of whether you privilege forward or backward time.

haha just kidding, you make good points

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>>20873
>idealism/materialism are simply a matter of whether you privilege forward or backward time
reminds me of these two articles

Everything you complain about is literally just a problem in the popular reception of QM since in the field everyone uses the Born rule because it just works, but
>I am not studied in physics and specifically quantum physics
>Finally, once you understand all the nonsense regarding this field
speaks for itself. Idk man learn some linear algebra and find out what a Hilbert space is, then you may apply again

>>20992
>doesn‘t add value to the thread just wants to jerk off his ego

>>20867
><„The collapse of the wave function produces a parallel universe for each possible outcome“
is bs

><„Consciousness collapses the wave function“

><„A particle could be anywhere until it is observed“
Misrepresentation. Its not conciousness that collapses it. Its the particle needing to interact with other solid matter.
Think of quantum mechanics as two states of being. You have regular being, it is, its in a single place at a single time.
Then you have quantum being, where a particle is not yet solidified.

If you know anything like programming, it works like lazy evaluation. If you only know math, its like not calculating a value and instead keeping fractions and sin(x) things.
A particle of light starts with a place, then it quantum interacts with other objects, that do not force it to change its fundamental state (it does not turn from light to heat, it does not intersect with atoms), which adds extra calculations to the possible location of the particle. This keeps going until it is forced to turn from one fundamental particle or thing into another (turn from photon to heat by interacting with atoms) at which point a full real value of the particle is calculated. This causes things like the two slit experiment.

Behind the screens of what we can observe there is some more fundamental substrate of reality that lazily calculated the positions of particles. Whether this is because our reality is a simulation and this would be more computationally effective, or because the underlying forces of reality happen to just work this way, i dont know.

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New chart thread where you can dump your charts about books, drop everything you have off charts, old chart new charts, let's try to concentrate all things here, for future use.
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>>21003
yo what, thanks but im looking for the chart that has books in it, the only book that i know is in there is an introductory philosophy book made by althusser

>>21005
Ludwig Feuerbach and the End of Classical German Philosophy
Theses on Feuerbach
Socialism, Utopian and Scientific

>>21002
I believe this might be the chart you're looking for. Imo you can safely skip Logic, Truth and Reason, and this definitely omits some of the seminal philosophical works by Marx & Engels. Most of the pre-Marxist pointers (Kant & Hegel in particular but Descartes too) are still good.

>>21007
thanks!



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