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>>4863
>the determination of value continues to prevail in the sense that the regulation of labour-time and the distribution of social labour among the various production groups, ultimately the book-keeping encompassing all this, become more essential than ever.
this is not commodity exchange

>the producers do not exchange their products
he's referring to commodity exchange

>just as little does the labor employed on the products appear here as the value of these products, as a material quality possessed by them, since now, in contrast to capitalist society, individual labor no longer exists in an indirect fashion but directly as a component part of total labor. The phrase "proceeds of labor", objectionable also today on account of its ambiguity, thus loses all meaning.
he means labor prices don't appear as something inherent in products the way that value is inherent in commodities, but instead, as something transparently socially agreed upon and determined through somewhat arbitrary social accounting methods

>>4864
So were both Marx and Engels asserting that the law of value does not exist under the lower stage of communism, following the abolition of commodity production?

>>4837
kids that age should be reading dystopian fiction and pulp fiction i.e. Huxley, Orwell, Sherlock Holmes, HP Lovecraft

>>4854
seconding Isaac Asimov

>>4859
You could watch the movie. It's dazzling trash.
I'll tl;dr:

First part of the story is Pi being all "omg, does god exist, does it not????" meeting with absolute retards to discuss this matter. A big revealing moment is when Pi goes to the zoo and sees "the worlds most dangerous animal", and it's a mirror, ie humans.

Second part of the book, Pi has a fantastic journey stranded in the Ocean with animals. There's a lion too. The lion is dangerous and eats animals Pi likes.

Third part of the book: Pi is rescued and it is revealed that the animals were actually humans, but Pi needed to COPE and made them animals. The description of what actually went down is extremely vulgar and disgusting.

The final kicker and "ah-ha!" insight moment is when the audience is asked if they prefer the better story (the one with animals and the lion in the middle of the ocean), or the real story (that the animals represented real humans, and the lion was a cook that was insane). The analogy is that "the better story" is pledging fealty to pedophiliac bloodthirsty reactionary religion while "the real story" is atheism, which we are supposed to think as viscerally disgusting (the worst animal is the human, and the insane cannibalistic cook's actions are basically atheism).

When I read it in highscool, there were a bunch of people who said they preferred "the better story". I was a staunch atheist back then. I saw that as an extremely grotesque acceptance that their belief in religion is literally COPE because they would rather not believe in "the real story". For a moment, I was considering the possibility that the book was written by an atheist to expose the religious as retards through 1D chess. But after a lot of classmates chose "the better story" and after analysis I realized it was filled with retarded arguments "supporting" atheism in the first part, I realized it was a retarded COPE of the highest caliber. I was an idiot back then, I can only imagine what other bullshit I'd find if I read it today.

>>4919
>First part of the story is Pi being all "omg, does god exist, does it not????"
His final conclusion about this was some nonsense about simultaneously following Hinduism Islam and Christianity.

For nonfiction there is Talking to My Daughter About the Economy by Yanis Varoufakis. Good read for teens about, well, the economy.

The German Ideology would be the most basic one.
http://fs2.american.edu/dfagel/www/Class%20Readings/Marx/The%20German%20Ideology.pdf

Also Anti-Duhring deals with marxist conception of science and world in general. The work is a critique of some guy, but also Engels in it explains historical materialist way of looking at things. The part that were of value on their own were later published in two separate works, Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, and Origins of the Family. I have not read the second one, but I heard that it is based on obsolete anthropology. Personally, I think Anti-Duhring itself is worth reading, but it is the longest.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
And audiobooks of all 3 of them if you want https://listenleft.org/by-author/engels-frederick/

>>4823
Hobsbawm's 4 Ages books are always worth a read as well, imo. If you're a history major you might not really learn anything new as he's more geared toward a slightly-above-layman level of presumed knowledge, but his Marxist (although never really explicitly ML) perspective is prevalent, unapologetic and rigorously researched.

>>4823
Jairus Banaji's Theory as History

>>4818
An anon explained a bit about second language acquisition at >>4300

>>4819
Nice. Thanks, anon.read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book

a cult with no followers

Orwell is based, was based, and always will be based.

Soviet Union sent NKVD agents to kill anarchist leaders (which is part of the reason anarchists were defeated) and purge the republicans. Fucking Soviets always worried about their ideological purity and absolute loyalty.

>>4831
orwell was a disgusting pedo

OP, I was typing up a response but found a much more comprehensive answer on Reddit to your question. Here's the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/8caypg/in_homage_to_catalonia_orwell_portrays_the_soviet/


tl;dr The USSR had no way to solely support a socialist revolution. Instead, the USSR's strategy was to defeat fascism via a Popular Front that included communists, socialists, and liberals. From the POV of the Communists, the POUM was undermining the war effort by pushing for revolution instead of political unity.

I'd also like to add that the militia system was retarded and the Communists were the only faction on the side of the Republic that resembled a real army.

>>4867
Absolutely based read, thank you anon

>>4756
If you really want to start from zero, you have to start with the greeks. You can skip between the greeks and marx.

History of Philosophy from Copplestone is good. It has like 11 volumes lol, but the first one is the most important.

You can also listen to History Of Philosophy without any gaps. It's really good.

After that, IMO reading some secondary lit on hegel is key.

Then read Marx. If you're not too interested in the economic stuff, you can skip vol 2 and 3 of Capital. There's a lot to read.

At this point you should be radicalized. It is honestly hard not to see things as Marx and Hegel saw them.

Anti-Duhring was the main introduction for people in ML parties for a long time, so it's a good start imo. Lot of stuff about what dialectical materialism means that western marxists miss.

>>4757
fixed spelling

>>5054
Imagine reading Manufacturing Consent instead of Inventing Reality

>>5054
just noticed you have Erich Fromm on there fucking based

>>6583
high school biology

>>6622
Mental disorders are real but only in relation to society. It only truly becomes a disorder once it negatively impacts your functioning in daily life. If big pharma and corpos didn't dominate medicine, you'd see more of a focus on treating the disorder as a symptom of coping with social life rather than a problem inherent to the patient. Most psychologists and psychiatrists otherwise accept a nuanced biopsychosocial model of mental behaviour.
There will still be mental disorders under socialism, but different kinds and frequencies. Hopefully they will be treated differently as well.

>>6622
Checked?allendeAllende

>>6622
Leftwing moment.
Tell us more how hearing voices telling you to murder someone isnt a real illness.