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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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 No.5042[Reply]

Requesting books on the U.S Intelligence community, especially the CIA and NSA. I'm interested in their history, anything they've been involved with, how they work etc. From a leftist perspective would be appreciated as well. Currently reading Surveillance Valley by Yasha Levine, which is pretty good for some basic observation and history.
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 No.5383

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>>5382
I guess I can't argue with that

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>>5045
>>5452
>>5453
Related as well, I think.

 No.5489

Surprised this wasn't here. I haven't read the entire thing, but I have used it as a reference for the FBI's infiltration of the CPUSA and some other organisations.anarcho-communismAnarcho-Communism



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 No.4981[Reply]

If I write an essay, theory and shit like that where do I post it and share it? Is there even an audience for mad leftist rants?
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 No.4986

in the short term: posting them as threads is fun.
(80% of the replies will suck and annoy you, but there's usually a 20% of good discussion that you can focus on.)

 No.4988

>>4985
>the only option will be wordpress
There are other solutions for blogging out there. Look into noblogs.org, for example. You can also set up your own thing pretty easily using Github/Gitlab Pages, neocities and others, if you're a bit more tech inclined (though using these doesn't require much knowledge at all, really). In my experience, these aren't very moderation heavy platforms, and you can getting away with saying whatever you want as long you're not doing anything illegal.

 No.4989

Why not just post it here or >>>/edu/?

 No.4992

>>4986
makes sense, I will feel like I'm spamming but seems the way to go
>>4988
Noblogs seems intimidating, and I'm not technically inclined enough to even use neocities.
Still not being too moderation heavy is nice I will never overcome the fear of persecution
>>4989
We're on /edu/ already, you came from the overboard? I love when people comes form the overboard and misses what board is the thread in like >>>/games/2112 absolute comedy
but yeah I already have a thread here and not many care but I could try posting here

 No.5013

>>4992
>Noblogs seems intimidating
It's just WordPress with a bunch of themes. The only caveat is that you sign up with an email from an activist provider like riseup.



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 No.4943[Reply]

Theses On Feuerbach

About 200 words total.
In this thread, we break down what the Marx was trying to say.

Link to the text:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/theses/index.htm
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 No.4953

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What's the /haz/ take on radical empiricism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_empiricismanarchismAnarchism

 No.4954

didn't TAIMUR have a take on this?

 No.4955

>>4953
IDK but "William James" sounds pretty anglo.

 No.4956

>>4953
>In concrete terms: Any philosophical worldview is flawed if it stops at the physical level and fails to explain how meaning, values and intentionality can arise from that.
ha, that's easy! the physical level, we call "material base", and it's the principal aspect of a contradiction. the secondary aspect is made of "meaning, values and intentionality" and hence also religion, ethics, law, politics, culture, which we call "superstructure". because the base is principal, it has the greater effect on superstructure than vice versa, but both do affect one another in a dialectical manner as any two aspects of a contradiction would.

 No.4957

>>4953
I don't know if I'm reading correctly, but this is basically a caricature of what Kant and Hegel thought was exactly wrong with empiricism. we as subjects of a particular time and place attribute more meaning to empirical observation (phenomena) than what's actually there. I don't really see any arguments as to why we need to remove "trans-empirical" support from our worldview. it sounds like this guy is some kind of butthurt astrologist trying to reinforce superstition. it's like empiricism but worse.
>>4956
how does any of what you said relate to what you quoted?



 No.4928[Reply]

What intervals do you use for the Leitner system? How many boxes do you have? need your advice on widening vocabulary by flash cards

 No.4950

>What intervals do you use for the Leitner system?

Whatever interval Anki gives me.



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 No.4925[Reply]

I had the displeasure of listening to the audiobook version of this shit during my commutes the last few months and I must say this is liberalism at it's purest and clearest form.
The book was designer for general audiences so it never goes in deep about what do right or wrong mean, why are things right or wrong or any other analysis about ethics themselves the essays are just a really polite "I'm right and you're wrong" which in the end made the author: Peter Singer, come out like an absolute retarded who only got into philosophy so people will have to listen to his retarded opinions.
What really offends me it's that behind all its stupidity I saw the core of liberalism, absolute ignorance on material conditions and a very strong belief that people are responsible of everything they do. There are essays where Singer struggles to understand why rich people care more about showing their social status than donating to charity and imagines this ideal world where "donating to charity will be the biggest showcase of status" without explaining how would that world come to be and why it doesn't exist already, it's just a really polite rant that rich people are not engaging in noblesse oblige. Like wise Singer; a vegan, protests the mistreatment of animals mean for meat consumption, he cites the testimonial of a farm worker who had a bad experience artificially inseminating a turkey but a no point he ever feels that a human should not work on such conditions in the first place.
After all of that I released that consoomerism is the natural conclusion of liberalism because liberal really believe that other people are not liberal because they have not consoomed the right movies or the right ted talks and that material conditions and life experiences do not matter, Singer just expects that after reading this book you will become a vegan because how right he is about everything.

 No.4926

That sounds exactly like what I'd expect from a liberal professor of ethics. To add to the "consumerism is liberalism", it's not just about the media they consume, but the whole "vote with your wallet" thing. Consume the right products and we will have utopia eventually.

 No.4927

>>4926
Yes, he makes several "vote with your wallet" arguments across the books but they're never too prominent.

 No.4979

Ethics in the real world is Singers worst book, its literally just various columns he wrote for newspapers and magazines collated into one volume. I've read some of his other work where while I don't agree with everything he at least puts it across far better. Most libs tend to hate him too because he takes a lot of viewpoints to a logical endpoint up to and including advocating infanticide and they don't like having to realise what their views result in.



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 No.4908[Reply]

how big is the skill gap between genre fiction and literary fiction? are there genre fiction writers who are equally as good as literary fiction authors?
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 No.5092

Whats the difference? Asking as a brainlet

 No.5094

>>5092
Literary Fiction is designed to be more inventive in its style and use of language and maybe use a lot more big literary words, Genre fiction is more like lowest common denominator stuff like generic Sci-Fi, Fantasy, and Romance.

 No.5102

>>5094
What about Tolkien and other sci-fi giants like Herbert, Asimov, Arthur Clarke, or William Gibson? I wouldn't consider them lowest common denominator, and they seem pretty well respected.

 No.5103

>>4971
Yes but it's still genre fiction in the end
>>5092
Genre implies that something is expected, the most concise example of this is comedy, when you go to something that is supposed to be a comedy you expect it to be funny but what's funny changes according to culture and era but the genre label of comedy persists because that's the label for this specific thing.
Literary fiction is a recent term to hold all fiction that doesn't really fall into a genre but most people that go for it expects it to be fiction written for art's sake.
You can have sci fi that is well written and really deep but in the end it's still sci fi and your attempt to make it more literary will only alienate either audience.

 No.5160

>>4908
Genre follows a given formula, which tends to make it less intellectual. There is, however, an art to the crafting of even formulaic works, the formula itself being an artistic subject. Genre writers have, on occasion, developed literary devices that later writers have found useful like Ian Fleming's "Fleming Sweep" or Elmore Leonard's rule: "If it looks like writing, I rewrite it." Elmore Leonard in particular was often refered to as the genre writer who serious writers take seriously.



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 No.4881[Reply]

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>>4882
Where the hell is volume 38 in that Lenin magnet???

 No.6204

>tfw so much based content itt but your toaster is full

JUST

 No.6223

>>4889
>Yi Yi?
Hardy left wing, mostly about how that Japanese guy had good business ethics and fucking him over was bad. Platform is a better Asian movie on the topic of communism and Chinese relations
Also seed itanarcho-nihilismAnarcho-Nihilism

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>>6204
it's bullshit that people say when they say that storage is cheap



 No.4871[Reply]

Is this book worthy of reading?thinkThink

 No.4872

Read it and find out!

 No.4878

>>4871
Marxist economist Michael Robert has reviewed the book
>"Suffice it to say that, although Piketty repeats the title of Marx’s book, published exactly 150 years ago, he dismisses Marx’s analysis of capitalism based on the law of value and the tendency of the rate of profit to fall and adopts the mainstream theories of marginal productivity and/or market ‘imperfections’ like ‘rent-seeking’. This leads to the view that capitalism could be ‘reformed’ and inequality reduced by such measures as a global financial tax or progressive inheritance taxes or more recently a universal basic income (Piketty is now advising French socialist presidential candidate Hamon on this now)."

Roberts say that Capital in the 21st Century is more of a rejection of Marxism than an update of it. Here's some links to blogposts about the book. Read these and then decide if its worth your time.
https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2019/10/18/capital-not-ideology/
https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2017/02/19/inequality-after-150-years-of-capital/
https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2014/04/28/reviewing-piketty-again/



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 No.4863[Reply]

How can we reconcile these two seemingly contradictory passages of Marx's? Are they even contradictory?

From Critique of the Gotha Program:
>Within the co-operative society based on common ownership of the means of production, the producers do not exchange their products; just as little does the labor employed on the products appear here as the value of these products, as a material quality possessed by them, since now, in contrast to capitalist society, individual labor no longer exists in an indirect fashion but directly as a component part of total labor. The phrase "proceeds of labor", objectionable also today on account of its ambiguity, thus loses all meaning.

From Capital Vol III:
>Secondly, after the abolition of the capitalist mode of production, but still retaining social production, the determination of value continues to prevail in the sense that the regulation of labour-time and the distribution of social labour among the various production groups, ultimately the book-keeping encompassing all this, become more essential than ever.

Similarly, does Engels contradict Marx's above passage in Capital in his letter to Karl Kautsky on the 20th of September, 1884?
>Present value is that of the production of commodities, but with the suppression of the production of commodities, value 'changes' or rather, value as such remains and merely changes its form. But in fact economic value is a category that appertains to the production of commodities, disappearing with it, just as it did not exist before it. The relation of labour to product prior to and after production of commodities no longer expresses itself in the form of value.

 No.4864

>>4863
>the determination of value continues to prevail in the sense that the regulation of labour-time and the distribution of social labour among the various production groups, ultimately the book-keeping encompassing all this, become more essential than ever.
this is not commodity exchange

>the producers do not exchange their products

he's referring to commodity exchange

>just as little does the labor employed on the products appear here as the value of these products, as a material quality possessed by them, since now, in contrast to capitalist society, individual labor no longer exists in an indirect fashion but directly as a component part of total labor. The phrase "proceeds of labor", objectionable also today on account of its ambiguity, thus loses all meaning.

he means labor prices don't appear as something inherent in products the way that value is inherent in commodities, but instead, as something transparently socially agreed upon and determined through somewhat arbitrary social accounting methods

 No.4865

>>4864
So were both Marx and Engels asserting that the law of value does not exist under the lower stage of communism, following the abolition of commodity production?



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 No.4837[Reply]

Any parents here? Please recommend books for 7-14yo kids that aren't lib shit (i.e. most of the Amazon top and NYT bestsellers).

Not explicitly leftist, just some fiction and non-fiction that isn't based in liberal worldview like picrelated.
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 No.4906

>>4837
kids that age should be reading dystopian fiction and pulp fiction i.e. Huxley, Orwell, Sherlock Holmes, HP Lovecraft

 No.4907

>>4854
seconding Isaac Asimov

 No.4919

>>4859
You could watch the movie. It's dazzling trash.
I'll tl;dr:

First part of the story is Pi being all "omg, does god exist, does it not????" meeting with absolute retards to discuss this matter. A big revealing moment is when Pi goes to the zoo and sees "the worlds most dangerous animal", and it's a mirror, ie humans.

Second part of the book, Pi has a fantastic journey stranded in the Ocean with animals. There's a lion too. The lion is dangerous and eats animals Pi likes.

Third part of the book: Pi is rescued and it is revealed that the animals were actually humans, but Pi needed to COPE and made them animals. The description of what actually went down is extremely vulgar and disgusting.

The final kicker and "ah-ha!" insight moment is when the audience is asked if they prefer the better story (the one with animals and the lion in the middle of the ocean), or the real story (that the animals represented real humans, and the lion was a cook that was insane). The analogy is that "the better story" is pledging fealty to pedophiliac bloodthirsty reactionary religion while "the real story" is atheism, which we are supposed to think as viscerally disgusting (the worst animal is the human, and the insane cannibalistic cook's actions are basically atheism).

When I read it in highscool, there were a bunch of people who said they preferred "the better story". I was a staunch atheist back then. I saw that as an extremely grotesque acceptance that their belief in religion is literally COPE because they would rather not believe in "the real story". For a moment, I was considering the possibility that the book was written by an atheist to expose the religious as retards through 1D chess. But after a lot of classmates chose "the better story" and after analysis I realized it was filled with retarded arguments "supporting" atheism in the first part, I realized it was a retarded COPE of the highest caliber. I was an idiot back then, I can only imagine what other bullshit I'd find if I read it today.

 No.4969

>>4919
>First part of the story is Pi being all "omg, does god exist, does it not????"
His final conclusion about this was some nonsense about simultaneously following Hinduism Islam and Christianity.

 No.5047

For nonfiction there is Talking to My Daughter About the Economy by Yanis Varoufakis. Good read for teens about, well, the economy.



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