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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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Here we post our fields of expertise, in hopes to share the knowledge with our fellow comrades. Ask any questions to comrades in this thread regarding their skills, and post your own. Maybe we can create a chat eventually to teach things at a more in depth level.

Me: Native English speaker, very good at math, okay at similar sciences, and computer science, can help with music regarding drums/guitar/songwriting etc.

I'm particularly interested in learning Chinese (Mandarin), I've just started learning some basics, if anyone has any advice or resources for learning that would be great.
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Such is the life of most image boards.


I found my clone lmao


similar thread on hobby >>>/hobby/28220

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Don't ask how, but now I'm responsible for a club of high-schoolers that are self-described "baby leftists" and want to learn more. As far as I'm aware, they don't seem to be as lib-brained as I expected(though they certainly still are to some extent), so I really don't want to mess this up.

Apart from the classic reading lists of /leftypol/, what are some other accessible texts(history especially, because some of the AP history and english teachers here are quite anti-communist even by lib standards and their curriculums reflect that) that I could give them and expect them to get through?
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>Is there anything I can teach them in that regard other than the obvious "Get debriefed by local comrades"?
Not really, other than "You're here to support them, not take over for them" or something to that effect.
People get enthusiastic but need to temper their egos and idealism.


>Also give them stuff about what they can do as individuals day-to-day, then as a group, and then organising, etc.

Not OP, but any examples, ideas, texts, etc? I've found labor organizing guides like the attached pdf, I know the IWW has some too. Does anyone have any texts or ideas for the inter-personal tho?


Graeber’s 5000 years of debt
Bullshit jobs
Capitalist realism
A people’s history
Manufacturing consent
Simulacra and simulation
Anything by Michael Parenti
The end of policing
Amusing ourselves to death
The new Jim crowe
Food politics
Forget the Alamo


Society of the spectacle also feels like it could be added to that list - not incredibly difficult but also a good entry into harder concepts imo

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Why the FUCK didn't you guys bully me into reading Killing Hope a million years ago??? I feel like this should be mandatory reading for everyone who calls themselves "leftist" in the USA (majority of leftypol)
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Is that Osama’s copy of it?


Shit guys, turn it into an NFT and make bank whoop whoop


Amazon is my first result, but I'm not being targeted by the CIA


checked the french version, google automatically offer something that seem to be it, but actually isnt… it offer the wrong translated title, and the infocard is the right title but with wrong author, and all commercial links are to that random fuck rather than William Blum

so for any french looking for it


Based Taliban

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Things to share: Movies, documentaries and mainly books.
Anything related to socialism, anarchy, communism and so on.

>Absolute beginner material




>More Marx and Engels


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Anyone got books from Kojeve or Losurdo for download?



Stirner's Unique and Its Property (the best translation) as both epub and pdf.



Goodbye comrade. Thank you and good luck o7


Something I have never seen seriously discussed is reprimand when a laborer breaks some rule. Let’s take the example of absenteeism or repeated failure to follow safety rules (either those that protect the worker or those protect the consumer).

On the anti-communist side, I see the standard criticism of forced labor, which doesn’t really answer my question. On the pro-communist side I just hear anecdotes that amount to “we won’t need that because personally I will never break safety rules!” which also doesn’t answer my question, but I love that for you.

So where can I find examples of these policies written out? Has no one thought about workplace misbehavior at all? It’s really difficult to find anything that discusses this.
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Anti-socialist propagandists are incoherent: One minute they talk about people being forced to work to an inhuman degree, next minute they say everybody gets lazy in socialism. My impression from what I heard about the GDR and the USSR of the 80s is that the second anti-socialist statement is the more realistic one.

People were not afraid of being jobless or homeless. It was common for someone to go buy snacks during for himself and others during official work time. Though it has to be said that this is also common in capitalism but restricted to more privileged jobs, so I'm not sure I would even count this as a minus for socialism. People spend more of their awake time at work than with their families. Seen in that light I think less stress at work due to lower discipline might be well worth the lower material output.

I firmly believe that something like quadrupling productivity only comes from technical changes and not from increasing work discipline. The idea of the need for more work discipline is popular among managers because you don't need to be intelligent to have this idea and it really can bring small improvements almost everywhere. Technical changes can bring massive improvements but managers and owners usually don't have the knowledge and thinking skills for making those.

Of course more remuneration for working longer hours and odd hours is something to be kept. And it makes sense to have some element in the salary that is performance-based as long as that performance can be unambiguously measured. Like carrying sacks… I have to admit I don't think most jobs are unambiguous like that. Some bonus might be distributed by co-workers voting on who should get it. Now they might abuse this by just giving it to a person who is just fun to be around and not necessarily very productive from the consumers' point of view, but is this really a big problem? Remember how much time we spend with co-workers and how this affects our quality of life and theirs. Might as well call this strategy not abuse but a sensible choice people can make.


Do I seriously have to give an example?
Let’s say you, steve, and I run a business together. As some kind of communist co-op, in which we are all owners of our means of production. Let’s say we work at a bakery, or a coffee shop, or literally anything. You and I notice that steve seems to be “slacking”. He comes in late, he’s slow, he doesn’t seem to all be there. “But he is our brother!” you say. So we confront him. He shrugs us off. He keeps coming in like this. We ask his friends and family if something is up. We take him to dinner. We follow him home. We drink together. We do various social obligations that extrapolate specific psychological information to determine what is wrong with steve. Does steve have a different circadian rhythm and his shift should start an hour later? Is steve on heroin? Is SteveS marriage crumbing? Does steve stay up all night following his artistic dreams? Did steve suffer a traumatic coffee burn? What the fuck is wrong with steve? We are invested in him as a friend, a comrade, and a co-owner. We take the time out of our day to shove ourselves into his life to figure out what’s going on and we participate in helping find a solution to why steve is like that. This expands to beyond just us two, it’s everyone in Steve’s life also helps. Imagine if your coworkers actually gave a shit about you.


i would really love to see someone come in with policies from post-war USSR, or China under Mao, in the communes etc… that would help settle this

but i can point to the fact that Marx talks about creating an army of labor (in the communist manifesto), so maybe something like military discipline, but in context to reflect the situation of labor rather than war. On the other, self-management of individual firms by the workers makes sense as well. They could set the punishments. Or whatever bureaucracy deals with planning production will also deal with people messing up the plan. Or both?

It might make more sense that coworkers have means of dealing with e.g. dangerous work practices, while a local governing organ carries out discipline related to absenteeism, slow labor, etc.

Some disciplinary actions that make sense (to me): being relieved of duty, being given shitty tasks no one else wants, coworkers giving the cold shoulder, cutting consumption power for an individual, cutting consumption power for a whole factory to make them get their people in line… and maybe in the last case if a production plan can't be met because people aren't committing themselves, there has to be a (public, political) reckoning where either a new plan is set, or the people commit more energetically, or the people remain split and cultural revolution against loafers or saboteurs takes place


If worker slack off, the answer is to make the workplace better.
Any other answer is "meet the new boss, same as the old boss."


The laziness I think of is the capitalist laziness: the business owner who comes in once a week for an hour to nitpick overworked workers, the manager who doesn't advise and take an active role in the workplace, or the owner's child who has a position on the board but spends their days at the beach. I’m not sure that form of laziness can really be applied here. I don't mean coming into work late or missing a few days without telling anyone. What I mean by absenteeism is excessive missed days. Missing 30% of your workdays (excluding days off) is starting to get excessive.

My other concern, safety, doesn't seem to be addressed in this thread. There are other issues as well like harassment and bullying. What I mean by safety is, take for example, the way one fells a tree. If felled improperly, it can hurt a coworker. If the reason for doing it can be addressed socially, then great, but if they're doing it too much then it starts to beg the question of if it's intentional and what to do about that.

I agree that technology does more of the work in increasing productivity and that this can be used to the advantage of society. Less work for all, but these are all goals to attain, not really concrete ways of dealing with workplace misbehavior. It is often a solution to a number of problems though: “we would have no need for x rule if this process were handled by technology”.

>Do I seriously
Unfortunately, I have to annoy you further. This basic instinct to care for our comrades is to be expected in an ideal scenario where problems just amount to some resolvable personal issue. But it's just that – the ideal and not the reality of the transition from the beginning of post-capitalism to the success of communism.

This ideal assumes we have gotten past the cultural transition stages where conditions like Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) are no longer prevalent (the incidence in the US appears to be anywhere from 4%-8% of the population). Misbehavior takes several generations to eradicate and it requires active education of existing and future generations on the importance of collectivism. Even then, the studies show that East Germany had some incidence of NPD; we don't really know if that will evPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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A long time ago we had a very interesting thread on the question of what consciousness is. Perhaps we can have another interesting conversation like that. Share your thoughts and ideas of what consciousness is and how it arises.
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I think the project is referred to as OpenWorm.


Does anyone here have something to say about Roger Penrose‘s theory on consciousness which is called Orchestrated Objective Reduction Theory?



>another free component of a fully functioning neurological system made useful by the in-itself organism's sensory processing, involuntary muscle control and vital nerve clusters comprising a full neurological system as defined by scientists
Is consciousness the capacity to feel pain, then?


thank you for the (you) astute leftypole
i guess the question of consciousness basically is the question of feeling as a subjective phenomenon in general


>When do we break out of this place?
Soon hopefully. I'm getting antsy.

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What is your favorite book?

What book influenced you the most?

What do you like about books?

what are you planning to read?

What are you reading now?

Saw this in /hobby/ but thought it fit more here
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I've read a few short stories by O'Connor and Faulkner and just amazed at 1) how good they are and 2) how deeply nihilistic southern writers who came out of the Reconstruction were.


Library reading halls if i need to do serious study. Audiobooks on leisure time.


Be more selective with what you read I guess. Beyond that, I once had a conversation with a friend wherein we basically said the only way to enjoy things these day i.e TV, movies, art, fiction etc etc. you kinda have to wear like ideological lenses - place yourself at a distant and just use it to numb your mind to a certain extent. Otherwise you're gonna go insane with how shitty (almost) everything is. Ideally, reading theory etc. immunizes you to a certain degree from the most glaringly disgusting aspects of the Spectacle.


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its always shocking to me how boring the stuff ppl read is, most classics are trash imo.

7-8 years ago i got rly into fin-de-siecle french decadent stuff, 19th century european decadent & symbolist lit in general.

its full of sex drugs and death, its pretty pulpy and plot-driven most of the time too. not boring at all, very metal. The fin-de-siecle concept of 'spleen' is very applicable today. I'd recommend (bearing in mind that a lot of these authors are fundamentally reactionary but w/e)-

Moravagine by Blaise Cendrars
Torture Garden by Octave Mirbeau
Abbe Jules by Octave Mirbeau
La-Bas by JK Huysmans
Monsieur de Phocas by Jean Lorrain


My favorite book is Harry Potter (I only read the first one)

The book that influenced me the most would have to be a tie between the Bible and Slaughterhouse 9 (although those germans totally had it commin, amiright?)

I like how they are heavy and very chewy without rotting your teeth.

I'm not going to be reading anymore now that chat GPT is online because how will I ever know if what I am reading was written by a person?

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What are some good books about salting? Both from a strategic perspective and from a biographical perspective. I would be interested in the life stories and anecdotes of salts. I would be interested in interviews with salts. I was listening to a podcast that was discussing the Norfolk Southern derail in East Palestine and the guy they were interviewing had been a salt at Norfolk Southern.



I found this old IWW article. Attached is audio of it being read aloud. Enjoy, comrade!

Some of the info is a little outdated (telephone numbers, note pads), but you can easily apply it to today!

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The article talks about how far-right groups use self-improvement to recruit people into their own ranks by associating positive change with Fascism.

As a former Fascist, this is basically how I got into the ideology and stayed because I had experienced genuine positive change in my life and I thought that this was somehow the miracle of Fascism.

Which made me wonder, what are left wingers opinion on fitness in general? What are their ways of combating the above issue I just mentioned?
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Doing cardio eating healthy and having a normal bmi
Bodybuilding is not healthy for the body


if you want to build some muscle mass to be strong or for asthetic reasons thats no problem but do it in a healthy way



You should be able to see your abs in good lighting.


man liberals love giving fascists attention and publicity


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Guy in pic rel (the swoletariat/the_gay_boy_show) is perfect for this thread who is incredibly awesome and makes awesome shit like this vid https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iRUEMe2pe88


What is the value of either of their works of thought under capitalism? What is their intellectual value to studious communists today?

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platonic philosophy was actually akin to eastern philosophy in the sense it was an attempt to make a coherent edifice of the various pagan mythologies like what 'theology' is understood as today.


Plato is fantastic for exposing people to critical thinking. All his dialogues are relatively short compared to shit like Hegel or Deleuze or even Aristotle. The form of said dialogues are just that, dialogues, so those who are exposed to constant television and movies and other simulacra media can understand the flow and structure of the writing. The content itself is less important. Plato is baby's first philosophy and newbie gains. It's a rapid pace of examining the world in a way outside of the norm. Most of them never go anywhere because
Even with that taken into consideration, the content of his ideas do subsequently create the building blocks for future philosophers, and as the guy quoting Deleuze in the other thread said
>the power and authority of philosophy comes from it's history.


Idealism is a philosophical view that reality is fundamentally mental or spiritual in nature and that the material world is derived from non-material entities. Plato is considered the father of idealism because he was one of the first to develop and articulate an idealist worldview, arguing that the physical world is a flawed and temporary reflection of the eternal and perfect world of ideas.


<But Aristotle points out that money is not truly an end in itself, but rather a pure means. We only want money because of the things we can do with it. And this, I point out, is an area where Aristotle is out of date. He can’t imagine living a life for the sake of stockpiling as much money as possible, much less orienting an entire society around it. We can.


Even under capitalism money is only a means to capital accumulation, and most capital isn't "liquid"/tied up in financial instruments

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