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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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>My Geometry teacher would every Friday pretend to be Oprah and the entire class would ask her for help with their “life issues.” She would write the tests and I would get the right answer but she’d mark it wrong because she didn’t understand it (and this is legit, my dad’s an architect so he confirmed it). Then, on one test a lot of kids got one particular question wrong and she couldn’t seem to understand what they didn’t get. So, I raised my hand and said, “Oh I think everyone is confused about cross multiplying with binomials.” I was promptly kicked out of class and my parents called for “spreading nasty rumors and making false generalizations” because there was a person in the class (me) who got the question on the test right so the statement didn’t apply to everyone
>Pre-Calc is just a train wreck. My teacher told us she studied Early Childhood Education in college and has never had math past Alg II/Trig. Whenever I ask her questions, she doesn’t know the answers and gets super mad at me. Then, during one of her random observations where the principal comes in to observe I’d asked a bunch of questions that she actually answered. Then, I promptly got my seat moved and lost 10 points on participation because I intentionally tried to ruin her observation and get her fired
>Bad math teachers just don’t like me. Seriously, I’ve never had behavior problems except for those two teachers. Math at my school is terrible. Ugh

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There was an English teacher at my high school who had pic related on his wall

>>25400
>There was an English teacher at my high school who had pic related on his wall


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So, before the site went down there was a thread about serious, rigorous, economic books about socialism, and economics in general, so, not "pop economics", anyway, any good recommendation of serious economics books?

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Check out Anwar Shaikh's book. It's a self-contained revival of classical economics based on sound systematic reasoning and actual empirical evidence.
He also has a lecture series on YouTube if you prefer that: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB1uqxcCESK6B1juh_wnKoxftZCcqA1go

>>22761
baby tier:
Marx: Wages Prices and Profit
Intermediate tier:
Capital volumes 1-3
advanced tier (requires linear algebra, probability, statistics and other math:
review: Mathematics for planning an economy by cibcom. Not specific to cybercom/planning but a good review of general math for political economy.
Farjoun and Machover – The Laws of Chaos
Sraffa – Production of Commodities by means of Commodities
Kalecki – Selected Essays on the Dynamics of the Capitalist Economy, 1933-1970,1971
Classical Econophysics by Allin Cottrell, Greg Michaelson, and Paul Cockshott

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A lolbert wrote this book on why he thinks education is bad:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_Against_Education


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Any works on NEETs?

I guess disability stuff like "Empire of Normality" and "Health Communism" is semi-relevant. Also some stuff on the lumpen such as by the Black Panthers.

So TBH I think a lot of the labor aristocracy holds pretty detestable views wrt the demoralized and slum proletariat. Also blaming fascism on jobless schizos is just retarded as reactionary as they may be at times. Fascism is a top-down deployment of the armed forces of the bourgeoisie. Reactionary NEETs and incels are beside the point.
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The similarity in freedom from being homeless or having expendable wealth is in the autonomy of a person deciding what to do based off of their environment.

>>25380
homelessness is a form of freedom

Any good anti-work books will do on why -sometimes- is good to be a NEET

Being a NEET is a bless and a curse at the same time, I think people wouldn't be NEETs if they actually was give access to self actualization jobs or a career that fit their personality

>>25176
>>25177
I wish people felt the same hostility for public schooling. But they rather allow kids to continually be traumatized


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i'm curious to learn about him, how catastrophic was he for soviet agriculture or was he actually not all that bad? i'd appreciate some reading material about this matter too thanks
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I now know why all of you are so mad
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-4078

>>21138
Belongs in >>>/hobby/5031

>>20920
>Can’t attack the theory of evolution by natural selection
<Instead attack a liberal social policy dressed up as being something something SCIENCE even though Darwin himself rejected social darwinism

He was great, he made fruit trees grow in Moscow

Irrelevant link dump https://academic.oup.com/plcell/advance-article/doi/10.1093/plcell/koae130/7658667?login=false

https://elifesciences.org/articles/109427


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I will be very concise, since I know a long, boring post will make you just lose interest.
>fairly normal life, but im extremely bitter against (succubi) m*dels, the glamour, ease,wealth, luxury and globe-trotting they are gifted just cause MUH FACE
>Im in a country that has free university, including med school\ doctor's college, I wouldn't lose any money if I ended up failing
>I tell myself a lot, that only saving others is good enough reason to keep myself alive
Please give me an honest assessment of this conundrum. I AM willing to go through the pain that is med school, AND a career as a doctor- I talked to several people in either field, so I know what it will be like.
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>>24461
if you think you can do it, do it. medicine is pretty safe thing to study as a career, you just need to keep up the effort.

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You can do it anon.

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>>24461
If you work in a hospital, your coworkers will be people like these.

>>25364
Is it justified to do something "fun" to these people?

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>>25365
https://en.intactiwiki.org/wiki/Brian_J._Morris
https://en.intactiwiki.org/wiki/Andrew_Freedman


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How do we arrive to that point? Most courses can be found completely online and free of costs, and they are far better explained than most universities. There must be a way to give equal to everyone.
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>>25253
Has anyone here read this book? How do you debunk it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_Against_Education

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You guys pay for education?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna's_Archive
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_Genesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Library

>>25360
why would you have to debunk it? to preserve a failed experiment?

>>25313
>>25313
You didn't read my post. Education is about teaching the prevailing ideology which today is capitalism - yes its anti blue collar/anti left because the capitalist ruling class needs you to work in their offices and work in their factories. If you already knew how to apply these things irl then you wouldn't have a market to apply for these things

The backing up of real world applications and applying it towards education SHOULD be a real thing, but ultimately will do no good unless capitalism is abolished first. From there education should focus on things that are needed to uplift and continue a communist society including real world application to things

>>25253
how about an actual communist program instead of trying to set the prices of this or that commodity lol


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Holy shit if you actually read these guys they're straight-up ancaps and fascists. They're all small-government nationalists obsessed with life, liberty and private property. They already do the whole Schmittian state of exception thing with the state of war. And they're okay with slavery as long as its against the ignorant or its a state of war. Basically, the worst kind of dark satanic mill shit. Like Mill wants to freely sell alcohol and then put drunkards in labor camps. Nietzsche and nihilism are irrelevant, the fascists are straight-up copies of Locke and Mill. And to be honest, the Liberals do that really long-winded and dull prose that fascists do as well.

- "Two Treatises of Government" by John Locke https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/john-locke/two-treatises-of-government
- "On Liberty" by John Stuart Mill https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/john-stuart-mill/on-liberty
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>if you read locke (1690) he's a schmittian fascist (1932) AND an ancap (1963)
it seems that history means nothing to you.

Nietzsche is for the failsons specifically

>>25165
Are you 15?

>>25223
Obviously I meant that Schmit and the ancaps elaborated on tendencies already pre-existing in liberalism.

Fascists use philosophical and intellectual pretexts because, due to their ideology, they completely fail to understand the richness and nuance of discourse. Unfortunately, you do not offer a nuanced perspective on the issue; Mill's anti-slavery stance would have been interesting in this specific context. Furthermore, please elaborate on your statement: according to which philosophy or definition do you really see fascism, with examples? Locke refers to a limitation of the state's room for maneuver, which is indeed damaging, but these are founding texts, and what followed was not the intention of their authors.


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I'm new to continental philosophy, to me continental sound just aphorisms and sophistry, and nothing with actual substance to say, but I'm open minded and curious to know if I'm wrong or continental philosophy actually has value, so what some good introduction books to continental SLOPPA?
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So, Continental Sloppa is irrelevant to socialism theory, bros?

>>25156
>this scientist believed in le holy science of dialectical materialism ergo he used dialectics
by this logic catholic scientists used catholicism to do analysis too
engels' dialectics of nature was bullshit too btw

>>25157
its plenty relevant considering socialism is the bourgeois ideology in opposition to communism

>>25158
>no scientist used, no not that one

Continental philosophy is just philosophy, whereas analytic philosophy more generally refers to a specific methodological approach and system of logic which, by its own constraints, can only describe a specific portion of consciousness and reality. It's unfair and generally incorrect to think of the divide as being incompatible (see: Wittgenstein). As for where to start, it really depends on what you're interested in. I think everything still basically begins and ends with Plato, but if you're interested in aesthetics (which I think the "Continental tradition" is unquestionably better equipped to detail), reading Spinoza, Henri Bergson, Gaston Bachelard, and Merleau-Ponty would be fun for you. In terms of critique, there's still no replacement for Hegel and Adorno, although I think Heidegger's essays are also essential texts

>>25157
No, a lot of it is very cucked but their analysis of the way capitalism and its mechanisms of control have evolved are important, and even if people like Foucault were straight up reactionary sometimes, their ideas can be re-oriented.
Continental philosophers, specially the french ones, sometimes write in a style thats annoying and assume the readers know a lot of stuff that was very popular in the time and place they were writing, and it filters people. A way to get around this problem is to start with their most accesible works which are usually transcriptions of courses they did.
Also "continental philosophy" isnt really a thing, its a term made up by anglos to put a bunch of very different schools of thought in the same bag. If you were more specific about what authors or schools are you interested in maybe I could help.
>>25155
You are a retard.


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what the fuck is this anon


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What the fuck are they? Every time a Marxist attempts to explain them it's like a Haskell programmer attempting to explain Monads.
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>>25264
The real tell that someone is a midwit, through and through, by the way, is aversion to philosophy.

Outmoded pseudoscience that was discredited as unscientific pig swill over a century ago, yet ideologues and poseurs continue to talk about dialectics in the year 2025 because they think being a leftist means accepting everything Marx and Engels ever wrote as irrefutable gospel truth.

>>25271
Ah yes let me just apply Marxism without dialectics
Let me just brush my bald head
Let me just run this marathon without my legs
etc.
Calling it 'pseudoscience', when it never existed as an object of scientific enquiry, but instead as a method, instantly exposes that you don't know what you're talking about.

>>25255
Nah, most of the philosophers are reasonable enough. It's when the Hegeloids come along that they become insufferable. It's weird to me because if people did understand Plato's system, this idea of obsessive formalism is not the point. The Demiurge is a clearly imperfect fashioner of the universe as we know it. This was transformed into "study these and only these forms as we tell you do and do not dare think for a moment".

>>25271
Tbf it only became pseudoscience when it was used by people as a clumsy positivist thing, which is not what dialectic is useful for. The other funny thing is that ideology only took off after the basis for making ideology a thing was proven wrong, so much that a lot of Marxists were thinking history and revolution did not work that way at all and wanted to go back to the drawing board.


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