Evangelism; Radical Christianity/Liberation Theology Anonymous 22-07-24 22:06:14 No. 22527 [Reply]
I think whether you're religious or not Christianity has plenty of universal values that could be applied to your life. God had plenty of reasonable things to say about how to be a good person. Be kind, be honest, don't kill, don't steal, be friendly, that kind of stuff. I think whether you choose to be a Christian or not, you should try to at least embody the more universal virtues that Christians hold as true. There's not quite agreement on the more controversial aspects of it, which I know are why some people leave the church. I personally am not a fundamentalist or biblical literalist. Though I know that most Christians have good intentions in mind, regardless of how strictly they adhere to the text. I see the Bible as more of a guide rather than an absolute truth, and I think you should too if you don't.
37 posts and 1 image reply omitted. Anonymous 23-07-24 03:11:32 No. 22614
>>22610 Every religion implicitly declares that it is mutually exclusive with other religions, and that believers of other religions are not redeemed until they align with it. That's basic to religion - you don't have "diversity of faith" in any real sense. You either follow the religious truth, or you don't. For polytheism, they didn't grand to "God" this cargo cult power in the same way - basically, everyone believed in basically the same thing about the nature of the gods, whichever one they kept. For the common people, the gods of the rulers were irrelevant, but none of them seriously doubted the cosmology at work. That wasn't controversial to anyone, and the rules were simple - the gods were cruel, and so was humanity, and it wasn't going to be any other way.
Religion was never premised on ideology in the way you're implying, where they believed religion described every iota of space and had to. The Christian dogmas about this were more about the Church's right to control education and how everything was taught, rather than a necessary claim about "fundamental nature" that was unchanging. That is a Germanic corruption.
Glownonymous 27-07-24 04:30:59 No. 22632
>>22527 >trying to appeal to people's pre-existing moral values by showing that Christianity agrees, in order to convert them to Christianity what does your religion offer in terms of ideas then? xD I'm already perfectly Christian I guess, no need to learn anything new or do anything about it
Of course in identifying as a christian you identify with other real people, and you come together to reinforce your shared ideas, and this gives a sense of social validation, which is the real desire catered to by religion. Validation. That's kind of pathetic if you really think about it. Billions of people seeking reassurance that their irrational, repressive beliefs are right. And look, the all-knowing man agrees with us and supports our irrational beliefs! How could anyone disagree with us?
Of course. Because you have can perfect certainty in your beliefs, values, and actions because the all-good all-knowing entity is backing you. Don't mind that you can't verify its existence, believing in things with no proof is also a virtue! Y'all are living under the cultivated hallucination of an all-powerful, all-good, all-knowing replacement for daddy and mommy. It's a psychopathology. Straight to jail.
I invite anyone who falls for this shit to read Henryk Grossmans essay on Christian and Religious Socialism. It can be found in the second volume of his collected works. It goes through a history of attempts to merge Socialism with christianity throughout europe. It paints a bleak picture. It's basically a form of tailism. It's probably good to go to the masses wherever they congregate, with no special discrimination against religious congregations, but we have no use for calling our morals (that we already know are right!) christian morals, or making up immaterial forces that we can imagine cheerleading our every word and deed. It only waters down the potency of our message and we will be fought against by clergy every step of the way, since religious institutions are not democratic. Along with that religion fosters cross-class community and preaches to a cross-class audience, and thus preaches bourgeois values and a class unity message [and for pe
Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 27-07-24 06:07:19 No. 22634
>>22527 >I think whether you're religious or not Christianity has plenty of universal values Not really no. It doesn't say anything that prior societies didn't already come up with. Christians really love appropriating concepts that are either obvious or much older than Christianity.
And, obviously, God isn't real. Jesus, assuming he was actually a real person, was not divine. The basis of the religion is false, the values it provides are either redundant or harmful. It should be cast off. It's an ancient religion from another land, it has no value to us.