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I remember that Hakim at a certain point, in a video of his, cited a paper about production efficency, according to which socialist states had about the same efficency (if not slightly more) as capitalist ones in transforming raw materials into finished products.
Does anyone know the name of such paper or has a link?

>>20956
Maybe find the video first?

I pray for Joey, may he find happiness in serving the Lord 🙏



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Here is an idea I had when reading Georges Politzer's "The Elementary Principles of Philosophy". He describes his approach to dialectical analysis. If anyone here wants an exercise in dialectical analysis give it a shot by selecting whatever piece of media you find to be relevant and analyze it based on his approach.

<6. A method of dialectical analysis


<In order to apply the dialectical method properly, one must know many things. If you do not know your subject, it must be studied carefully, otherwise, your judgment will amount to only a caricature of the truth. In order to make an analysis of a literary work, a book or story, we are going to indicate a method which may be applied to other subjects as well.


<a) You must first pay attention to the content of the book or story you wish to analyze. Examine it independently of any social question, for not everything is derived from class struggle or economic conditions. There are literary influences which we must take into consideration. Try to see to which “literary school” the work belongs. Take into account the internal development of ideologies. Practically speaking, it would be good

to make a summary of the subject under analysis and to note down anything you found remarkable.

<b) Next observe the social types the heroes of the intrigue belong to. Look for the class to which they belong. Examine the action of the characters and see if what takes place in the novel can be linked in some way to a

social viewpoint. If this is not possible, if it cannot reasonably be done, it is better to abandon the analysis rather than invent. You must never invent an explanation.

<c) After you have discovered what class or classes are involved, you must determine the economic foundation, i.e., the means of production and the way of producing at the moment when the action of the novel takes

place. If, for example, the action is contemporary, the economic system is capitalism. At present we see numerous stories and novels which criticize and fight capitalism. But there are two ways to fight capitalism:
<1. As a revolutionary seeking to go forward.
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>>20951
why…

The coolness of dialectics is in the examination of reality, it adds to/breaks with immanent critique by the addition of concretization, excursions from the object of study to its negation in connected objects. This text, I'll analyze it by pointing out that you say "in order to apply the dialectical method properly, one must know many things" but there isn't any method for knowing what is necessary about a subject (i.e. any account of following the natural points of excursion in a thing to its context and internal parts), and then you say to look for class - unless class fails to "reasonably" be applied (again introducing the subjectivity of the analyst rather than letting the object of study speak for itself, which is the essence of dialectical study) - and then after that economics, and the goal is to find ideology. Well great, we have 3 categories of importance that should be looked for in everything. This is a totally subjective critique, its a "lens" that functions in the typical way of literary critique, a pre-set heuristic. What's missing ultimately is why we would do this: a story is only real insofar as it's a record of the writer's thoughts, the writer belonging to a given time, place, and social context. The social lens that asks us to see class, economy, and ideology are relevant insofar as they tell us about the author. The analysis shifts from the content of the material to the intentions or reasons for its existence. This is never made clear, and if it was it would make all too clear how boring and unidimensional this kind of analysis is. Dialectics is cool bcuz it works to produce knowledge in reality. In fiction, this kind of study would get snagged up on all kinds of manufactured falsehoods, inconsistencies, and metaphor. If the only purpose is discovering the viewpoint of the author, its like using calculus to tell what 2+2 is.(and anyways the specifically dialectical parts are obfuscated)



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What's the best way to get contemporary economics statistics without having to pay for websites like Statista or OEC.world? Are there annually released books I should be looking for on Libgen?
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>>20914
So Paul Cockshott, in one of his older Youtube videos, mentions that each country maintains input-output tables which can be used to make/simulate macroeconomic trends in the style of a Marxist reproduction schema. When I go to the US bureau of labor statistics though, their tables are arcane as fuck. In some spreadsheets (1963-1997), they label each economic sector with an integer, and it's not clear which integer belongs to which sector. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to read these. Others are labeled more clearly. Others have broken links. It's totally bizarre. Also the '63-'97 data is temporarily unavailable in XLSX format anyway.

https://www.bea.gov/industry/input-output-accounts-data

>>20588
governments publish these, sometimes in the form of a public API that you can query. the data is usually very convoluted though, so you have to do some cleanup work

>>20932
the input-output table meme needs to stop, it's a terrible abstraction. cockshott is astrology for leftist comp-sci midwits

>>20933
>the input-output table meme needs to stop, it's a terrible abstraction. cockshott is astrology for leftist comp-sci midwits
ok… what should people be looking into instead? Do you want people to get frustrated and give up? Every time I try to look into anything or learn anything some negative asshole says no it's not worth it, it's just a meme for midwits, yada yada yada. What the fuck is actually useful then?! You tell us!

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>>20933
>the input-output table meme needs to stop, it's a terrible abstraction.
It's not an "abstraction." If anything it's a more concrete version of Marx's reproduction schema, which is meant to represent macroeconomic trends. Both the input-output table and Marx's reproduction schemas are descended from the Physiocrat François Quesnay's Tableau économique. Marx didn't have access to spreadsheets or programming languages like R, or really much rigorous training in statistics, so it's shocking that he did as well as he did with limited resources. Modern Marxian economists attempting to simulate macroeconomic trends and monitor the changing organic composition of capital in a national or international economy would do well to reference input-output tables. In the input-output table is everything you need for a reproduction schema in the style of Marx, because you have statistics for capital and labor per industry, including cross-pollinating capitals across industries. You can consolidate these industries into Marx's "departments" (1 means of production, 2a necessities, 2b luxuries/armaments). You can track the rate of exploitation and the rate of surplus value this way. You can find out how much capital per industry is going to wages versus profit. You can find out how much labor the economy is wasting on the production of non-necessary goods versus necessary goods and means of production.

Books that publish data, or academic articles, either open source or pirated.



 

Is mathematics invented, discovered or both?
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>>2320
Mathematics is an expression of truth. If you look at the various branches of pure mathematics, many don’t even remotely resemble what you probably had in mind (high school algebra or the basic college curriculum of calculus and linear algebra). Mathematics is similar to a programming language. You have some set of primitives, some set of operations you can perform, and from there you begin to derive the consequences of the operations you’ve defined. I guess you could say in that sense that mathematics is “invented” or “contrived”. Whether it is “real” or not depends entire on whether the system you have defined is useful for solving any real problems. Like if I define a logic about Barbie dolls, I define what properties Barbie has, what operations I can perform on her (brush her hair or undress her), etc… with a little effort we can make such a logic self consistent and valid. You obviously realize immediately that we probably can’t gain any useful or meaningful knowledge from that, so is it real math or not? I don’t see why not.

I just realized what point I was trying to make. Mathematics is obviously invented. It is just a framework within which you can systematize your reasoning about a given question or problem. However, the conclusions you derive from within that framework are discoveries. So a given branch of mathematics or logic is just a method for making discoveries.

math is invented. to say that math is "discovered" is idealism

>>2388
2+2 = 4 is intuitive because it's one of the most obvious physical examples. 2 apples next to 2 apples is obviously two 2s, which makes 4, or whatever the symbol and name for 4 would be in an alien language. While one can argue for "the apples being different size and shape" this is not a consideration most people think about, especially considering that this basic arithmetic, arises in early civilizations across the world. Aliens are not magical beings as far as we know, their socio-economics would also develop along dialectical materialist lines, which would only be different to humanity's development in regards to the specifics of the environment they evolved in, their physiology and so on. So a silicon-based sentient life-form that evolved and evolved in a rocky high-gravity environment would have obvious physiological differences from methods of sight, to movement and social-philosophies. However if such a race was to evolve to the point of our level of civilization or more, it would definitely have a concept of arithmetic, because its a universal concept of our observable universe, even if the details and language may be different to ours.

>>2320
Both. Sometimes math is discovered through observation of physical phenomena, and attempting to record those mathematical observations leads to new systems of math. For example, the earliest form of math is counting. Counting was discovered because humans observed many objects with similar characteristics, and needed to keep a track of how many there were (such as sheep in a flock or plants in a field). This led to the discovery of counting. On the other hand, sometimes math is invented. This is math which is done for the sake of doing math rather than a practical application.
>>2325
>A much more likely explanation is that humans simply think alike.
An even better explanation is that the material conditions of society, such as the level of technological development, mode of production, forces of production, ruling ideology, etc. coalesce to produce intelligent people who are "of their time" and hence discover something simultaneously. Newton and Leibniz both discovered Calculus because society had advanced to the point where it was going to be discovered soon by someone because there was a practical need for it, as well as the tools to do it.
The actual



 

I am of the opinion that students will become a lot more interested in a subject if, instead of being forced to memorize formulas and rules for a test, they are instead treated to a historical overview of how the subject matter developed to its contemporary stage. To provide a human grounding of "Who/When/Where/Why" instead of just a dreary "What/How" will allow students to get a sense of the relevance of the subject matter. Unfortunately, there is too much mutual contempt between STEM and the humanities, and too much capitalist contempt for "stopping and smelling the roses" to get any kind of pedagogical reform movement off the ground.

In this thread, I'd like to collect videos, research papers, books, etc. that cover the history of various STEM subjects.

throwing some books down to get a start

History of mathematics by that guy who hates Galileo:
https://intellectualmathematics.com/history-of-mathematics/



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Where to find language learning communities, where I ask something about the language I am studying and get responded? I am not using hellotalk because it glows, nor fbi.gov for obvious reasons. I am a brazilian learning greek and mandarin and intending to learn korean and spanish, in case I need to be specific.
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>>9048
>>9049
critical period is a meme. you can still learn almost entirely by immersion (with cramming vocab being optional, but helpful) way into your adulthood (see stephen krashen, the norsk experiment, ajatt/mia, and so on, and so on). the "just read more" meme from /djt/ is literally true. millions of ESLs learned english just by playing vidya and watching youtube, past their "critical period" and way into late teens and early twenties, including me. i also repeated this with jap a few years later, and now am learning chinese just by doing anki and watching bilibili daily for a few hours. it's slow, but comfy, and it does work. you just have to supplement that with speaking practice later on, because immersion is hyper focused on reading/understanding—you'll have to do speaking practice later on for it to catch up (i don't care that much, since I learn languages only to read books in the original, so I don't mind having shit output if I understand 99% of everything)

>>11362
literally just immerse more, with native subtitles (if you're learning french, then french cartoons with french subtitles) and some lighthearted vocab study on the side. after a few months of that, take an easy fantasy/adventure YA book in your target language, a dictionary, and literally just read it. it'll take a few days to go through the first page, but with each book you'll get faster and faster. reading is amazing

>>8959
It depends on the language, I think. But for learning Esperanto, I found this site:
>https://lernu.net

Do you know other resources for learning Esperanto? I'm a total beginner (I'm thinking about finding a beginner Esperanto course in my local area).

>>11362
Start by learning the writing system (the "extra" characters in the Esperanto alphabet, Cyrillic characters, Greek Characters, Hangul, (some) Chinese letters, Hiragana and Katakana). Start writing simple words (and sentences later) as soon as you are able to. Then start learning basic grammar and continue learning vocab. Also, start reading as soon as you can (even if you can't understand everything). Of course, it's easier to go to a language course and use it as a kind of springboard for quick starting your language learning journey. Finally, some languages are easier or harder, depending on the languages you are able to speak (especially your native language). Also, learning Toki Pona (not very useful to be honest) or Esperanto is much easier than learning natural languages.

>>18535
https://kurso.com.br/
https://www.youtube.com/@pasportotutamondo/videos

But if you can get face-to-face instruction that's probably the best.

I know, I know, necrobump – and also I haven't gotten fluent in a foreign language.

But something I've been doing while learning/practicing Spanish is:
>I see the sentence in Spanish
>I answer it for English
>Then I think of the concept(s)/visual(s) of the word or sentence, and then say a sentence describing it. Usually a few words at a time though.

Example
>Nosotros vivimos en una casa en la playa
<We live in a house at the beach

I close my eyes
>Nosotros
<I think of a group
<a family, a group of friends, etc.
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Any Russian learners here? I'm a longtime Chinese learner and this will always be my primary pursuit but kinda thinking about studying Russian a bit because I'd love to travel through Central Asia.



 

What was the ideological motivations behind the deportations from Poland and the Baltic territories? The standard liberal take is that their nationalities were viewed as a proxy for reactionary ideology, which certainly is a major fuck-up, though in a world with "Stalin killed EVERY UKRAINIAN" tier-takes we can be glad for that nuance. I've heard of Chang's book Burnt By The Sun, but has any one else studied this topic specifically?

>ideological motivations
This means chasing spooks.
>strategic motivations
reactionaries are best off divided and conquered. The deported were bourgeoisie and lumpen military of especially reactionary nations - this was "the ideological" motivation, but this motive isn't ideological at all because it is fully based in the strictly materialist science of marxism.

>>20859
Alright, any sources apart from the one I already listed to help with spreading that argument?



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I'm interested in learning arabic, any recommendation is welcomed :-) i'll start the LanguageTransfer course today, but i also need something to learn grammar and the actual alphabet.

>learn the script
>study the morphology of verbs and nouns
>study the grammar and syntax
>parse Arabic sentences
>do this for 5 years
This is the only way.

The Medina Arabic books really suck with the way they are published but if you can put up with the messed up structure they are really good. There's a series of lecture videos too. Ignore the religious mumbo jumbo if you like but the teaching is actually pretty good. If only Muslims weren't so damn lazy and would actually put effort into their publications we might have something better.

https://archive.org/details/madinah-arabic-course
https://archive.org/details/MadinaArabicBooks/Lughat_ul_Arabia1/



 

Let's debunk muh holocaust revishunism with FACTS & LOGIC.

Articles, books, infographs everythings is welcomed.
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I often see mention of how it's not possible to cremate all the Jews which is a strange argument since no one claimed such a thing. They mainly were shot and buried in mass graves.

>>10434
True, there's even a famous film depicting the uncovering of immense mass graves

>>10434
>it's not possible to cremate all the Jews
It's not even true

Any good debunking of Paul Rassinier?

>>10461
>Any good debunking of Paul Rassinier?
Any specific points to debunk?



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Who did it? Soviets? Nazis?
Why were the polish officers killed? What was the motive for the massacre? Were they preparing a revolt?

Are the documents fake? Whose investigations are trustworthy?

Discuss
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>>10230
>documents prove it
Documents? You mean the ones that got admitted to being forgeries? Or perhaps the documents by Nazi Germany?
>tankies that openly justify many other of stalin/beria’s ethnically targeted atrocities
>deportations to central asia
<Muh tankies!
Fuck of liberal
https://manofsteel.quora.com/What-do-Stalin-supporters-think-of-his-deportations-of-ethnic-minorities-3

>>10236
that quora thing is basically admitting it was done systematically against certain ethnicities, but waffling pathetically around it. again don’t know why you’d even be so surprised if this is the kind of stuff you think

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>>10240
>admitting it was done systematically against certain ethnicities
>waffling
<Let me take a point out of context to portray it as admission!
You argue in bad faith and use a false narrative to try and claim another false narrative, and cry about "le evul Stalin/Beria/tankeez" in the mean time. I'd suggest going to >>>/leftypol/ or better yet reddit, those liberal echo-chambers are more your speed.
>inb4 'N-no u echochamber'
People have discussed Katyn and the debate of it being the NKVD or not before, they also discussed Soviet deportations before, this is acceptable discourse. You are engaging in dishonest fallacies, putting a slight spin on old Cold War myths and exaggerations.

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https://espressostalinist.com/the-real-stalin-series/katyn/

This is a pretty good examination of it all, It's important to note though that most Communists are able to admit mistakes and excesses commited by Socialist nations. I don't doubt that when the Soviet Union started taking in Polish officers (Most of who fought in the Polish-Soviet war) they treated them pretty badly, but the idea they spread is that one executioner (Vasily Blokhin) executed tens of thousands of Poles by himself right next to Smolensk (A city of at least a hundred thousand and all with German guns and bullets) and nobody knew till the Nazis came by is just insane.

Relevant to the thread: Yuri Muhin's Катынская Подлость is a video version of his book Антироссийская Подлость: Расследование фальсификации катынского дела Польшей и Генеральной прокуратурой России с целью разжечь ненависть поляков к русским. — М.: Крымский мост-9Д, Форум, 2003. — 762 с.

https://www.veoh.com/watch/v16363590Z2fz4j8s

https://web.archive.org/web/20121030125555/http://www.erlib.com/Юрий_Мухин/Антироссийская_подлость/

The Book and film are a detailed, section by section dissection of Katyn myths and the context of Polish, German and Soviet actions before, during and after the war.



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