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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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Not reporting is bourgeois

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Why the fuck isn't it considered standard for news articles to list sources? Every other type of publication it's expected. Newspapers get to just say: "trust us bro."

Why?
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>>20084
And then even stranger still, more serious articles that list sources may list newspapers as sources.

good question

Newspapers historically being printed on paper had a very strict economy of space that didn't apply so much to books and other media. The trend has stuck, probably because there's no pressure to change it.

>just list sources for your propaganda
newspapers couldn't perform their role

They're the sources. They're not academic articles, they just break news as quick as possible. You just have to hope wherever they their reports from (Associated Press for example) is trustworthy.



 

I made these charts recently, if you have any ideas of new charts or charts of your own drop them here.
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Any lists like this for Freudo-Marxists/Frankfurt School?

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bump

Reading list of Marx and Engels where shit that's already repeated in another work isn't included

-Ludwig Feuerbach and the End of Classical German Philosophy + Theses on Feuerbach
-The Communist Manifesto
-Economic & Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844
-Chapter 1 of the Grundrisse
-The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State
-Capital
-The Civil War in France
-Critique of the Gotha Program
-Conspectus of Bakunin’s Statism and Anarchy [Extract]

Someone make a chart

>>19914
It's in order, too, btw. So I would write like this instead:

1. Ludwig Feuerbach and the End of Classical German Philosophy + Theses on Feuerbach
2. The Communist Manifesto
3. Economic & Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844
4. Chapter 1 of the Grundrisse
5. The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State
6. Capital
7. The Civil War in France
8. Critique of the Gotha Program
9. Conspectus of Bakunin’s Statism and Anarchy [Extract]
Also, thinking about it:
10. The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte
11. The Class Struggles in France

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bumpying for new charts



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Good day, I wished to ask if anyone has the whole archive-collection of Marxist.org (would be best if it is only in english) in a torrent and if they could send to me so i can save it in a portable HHD in any case there would be need for it later in the world and also for my personal use to read on

If not that's ok, and thank you in advance


>>19916
>any case there would be need for it later in the world
Marxism is a science, even if all Marxist works were lost, someone would figure it out again. You can't "lose" Marxism any more than you can lose math or physics.

>>19916
>>19917
I'm not an expert but I don't think there's any easy torrent out there. The MIA themselves used to sell CDs and HDDs with the whole archive on them, but those days are done. The problem is that once it became viable to host PDF files the size of the archive just exploded in size compared to HTML text files. So the MIA has a complete set of high resolution scans of both the standard and New York edition of the Daily Worker, 365 issues a year for decades, that alone takes up I think hundreds of gigabytes. With that said, very, very few people will ever read every single issue.

Compared to that, the biggest name authors are still mostly text based. The entire Marx and Engels archive for example is still less than one gigabyte. So I think if you just want the biggest names you can assemble what would be a huge, bookshelf-bending collection of reference material without much trouble.

PS: If you do so try to grab the material off of https://marxists.architexturez.net/archive/ instead of marxists.org, the mirror didn't go along with that bullshit copyright strike on the MECW.



 

Guys I just finished Capital Volume 2 I'm so proud of myself. That book was really long and contained a lot of calculations but at long last I have finished. Of course I don't binge read it all the way, sometimes I try to read one chapter then switch to less intensive stuff, like reading Stalin or Hoxha (or anything that I like) for instance. So here is what I think:
1) So the first several chapters is spent discussing the circulation: M-(C+LP)-Pr…Pr1-C1-M1.
M: original money capital
C: Commodity
LP: Labour power (basically you hire someone).
Pr: The production process
Pr1: After you have produced stuff
C1: New commodity (to be sold)
M1: A larger amount of money (after you have sold stuff).
The discussion is rather long-winded, but I think here Marx tries to hammer the fundamental points again and again so that's fine i guess.
Here there is also some mention about 1) Gold 2) Services, such as transportation which is slightly different but will need to be referred to later on
2) Then there are the chapters about circulation time, labour time, production time (for example when you let wine in a barrel for like 10 years, that's when production time > labour time), so on and so on and so on. I think those chapters are quite okay, although there is a chapter in which the authors investigate the effects of advanced capital and turnover period, in which the maths is quite complicated, but I just do not think that there is much to it although it's true that the results show that this requires credit but i mean that's obvious. There are also some parts about fixed and circulating capital which is important, and Marx hammers down on Adam Smith and Ricardo which is rather complicated yeah I know I want to know how capitalism is bound to have crisis not watch some economist dissing on other economists.
After that there are also some chapters discussing effects of circulating surplus value, variable capitals, … Here there is discussion of how the hell can the system get the money for the surplus value. So for pre-credit time it's from gold-producing industries, and for credit-era the capitalists keep sending in money so that later on they will get back that money and even more money. Think Keynesian spending or other such stuff. Also effect of wage increase is discussed.
I think that some parts about fixed and circulating capital is rather complicated and do not show the main points.
3) Now we Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>10103
yes :(

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bump. I just started volume 2 and don't want this thread to die.

>>10103
do you have a job and a child? I get maybe 30 minutes to read a day

>>20052
You can get through an entire chapter or 2 in 30 minutes. Drop your kids off at an orphanage and you get even more time.



 

This is a video looking at the right-wing history channel WhatifAltHist, and the broader trends in historical studies that it represents.

https://youtu.be/7ZVrtwJGams
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>>12423
It's worth remembering that on any platform but especially youtube, it pays (literally) to be provocative and to ride the line about what you're allowed to say. If you can get a bunch of people to make video responses to you about how problematic you are, they are doing a lot of free marketing for you.

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>>12423
>complains about reactionaries
>8 minutes in
>directly quotes Karl Popper's "paradox of tolerance" bit

>>20043
There's a lot of liberal history as well, I would say that is actually the majority. IMO these are far more harmful because they're not just preaching to the choir, and they're not politically explicit.

Of course the liberal historians become obviously right-wing when it comes to left-wing events. They will not directly glorify fascistic and imperialistic counter-revolutionary forces but will instead relativize and omit essential facts so that communist revolutions appear as violent attacks by a small clique on the moderate civilized status quo, while (attempted) counter-revolutions are painted as general resistance to the aggression of that small clique. In liberal view communism is always merely a deviation from the progression to the end of history, and it happened in "backward" countries not because their starting point was different (weak bourgeoisie, usually compradors) but because their culture wasn't sufficiently westernized.

>>20048
Good point. There's also probably a lot of confirmation bias going into the idea that history buffs tend to be right wing.

Eh…
The vids on this guy by Fredda are better



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what do you think about the sokal affair?

idk much about sociology or poster modernism but it feels like an attack on leftism? even though alan sokal himself says he was a leftist and was trying to dissuade it from going somewhere weird

but all the "destroys postermodernism" youtube thumbnails i see when i search this, eerily remind me of the other rightwing shit of "destroys sjws" type

i saw a few lines and it just reads like incomprehensible jargon? i couldn't tell if it was parody honestly if i didn't know, scientific mumbo jumbo

He got a nonsense article published in a journal that didn't even have a peer review process. It was a publicity stunt.

There's way bigger scandals in academia like the replication crisis, but sokal affair was "owning the libs" so it gets more attention.

>idk much about sociology or poster modernism but it feels like an attack on leftism?
You can just read their (Sokal & Bricmont) book on the hoax, Fashionable Nonsense. It's on libgen. The journal they trolled was rather obscure. They put an astonishing amount of time into researching into the phenomenon that they were criticizing with that hoax (self-styled radical leftists abusing niche jargon from math and physics they don't seem to understand themselves). Their criticism of some writers of the "left" was really limited to that.

The "Sokal Affair" is whatever the MSM wants it to be, so Sokal being pro-Palestine or whatever else being inconvenient for the flow of the story can just be dropped. If they want to tell the story of an epic conservative teacher owning SJWs, they do that. They don't have to explicitly lie, they can just use suggestive language and omission.

There have been many copy-cats getting crap published (and not just the humanities, but also computer science), some of which has been generated by AI far more primitive than what we have seen over the last couple of years.

>>19900
Fuck postmodernism.

>>20046
What about post-post-modernism



 

Post dumb pseudoscientific nonsense, poorly-written pop-sci and other junk science topics to make fun of and critique
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>>18558
Still haven't answered this: >>18552
You keep proving my point, you never discuss the content, you always avoid, switch to another topic, you will do and say anything rather than read/engage with the content. You simply ignore it in favour of sophist tirades. That's why I call you a liberal, because your viewpoint relies on you rejecting reality, whereas I go into these discussions wanting to be dissuaded. Yet even to someone who is receptive to counter-arguments, you aren't willing or able to come up with anything more than strawmen and insults. Why is that?

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>>18559
uh oh, what is this?

>>18562
If that is what I said then I was wrong. Nothing more to say. There are no archeologists dating it as 10.000 years old, that is just an unproven theory.

Was that from the first thread? As I said many times, I changed my mind on a few things. I don't think Derinkuyu is from 8.000 BCE.

My focus shifted to Egyptology, Pyramid of Giza, Sphinx, etc. Way more interesting, like this: >>18552
Very advanced tomb.

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Looks like the Hancock Schizoid Disorder has infected physicists. Everybody knows the universe is 13.9 billion years old.
https://phys.org/news/2023-07-age-universe-billion-years-previously.amp
>26.7 billion
They need to remove Hancock from the internet, remove all of his videos and books, burn all his books. This poison must not continue.

(You)



 

Choose a real pro-socialist speech given historically (translations allowed) that you could give on a soapbox in a park or square today.
Bonus style points for speeches performed over a century ago.
Triple points for attaching recorded audio.



 

Who is the left wing equivalent of Nietzsche? Who is the edgiest leftist philosopher or philosopher who can be read and/or interpreted as left wing?

Foucault? Zizek? D&G? Sorel (pre-fash)? Even someone like Plato, Plotinus, or Spinoza?
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i mean deleuze was pretty well known for reinvigorating a left-wing interpretation of nietzsche within academia

>>19871
insurrectionary anarchism as an ideology really
>fuck it bro just like have open guerilla wars with the police and assassinate random heads of the state

Based retards of Left fr luv em tho

Is Nietzsche considered edgy?


>>19870
You can hardly beat his attempt at becoming an aztec style human sacrifice



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>inb4 Grover Furr
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Oops with the sage whatever

>>9843
He's often accused of misquoting the historians he criticizes. Whether that's true or not is something I am too ignorant to tell you.

I remember someone from the leftypol area posted a Soviet historian, named Zoloyev (Zolotev?), but can't find him. Apparently was really, really good.

>>9843
He's a loser

>>9843
for no real reason really.



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