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This utopian garbage by P.F Skinner (Yes, THAT Skinner, for whom the Skinner Box is named after) has no right to be called a socialist novel and anyone who says it is is delusional.

For starters, the book is objectively terrible from a literary standpoint (like most Utopian novels honestly, it's a shit genre). Every chapter is dedicated to some aspect of the Walden Two "Utopia" and consists of Frazier, P.F Skinner's self insert character in the novel, explaining why Walden Two is so epic and based and wonderful in X aspect to bland and unoriginal to a small cast of forgettable characters visiting Walden Two for no reason other than to be ranted at by Frazier apparently.

Walden Two's "Utopia" is ran by a professional caste of Planners (unelected, naturally, not even held in check by a Party of any kind) set apart from the usual workers who run and plan everything and use Radical Behaviorism (essentially mind control through selected use of pleasure and pain) to alter the needs, wants, and desires of its citizens to conform better to society's needs. It's funny how the book is structured to make this seem like a good thing. Many chapters go to great lengths to explain why Walden Two is a haven for art, culture, shorter working hours, better working conditions, etc, in order to justify this behavioral altering. The chapter on education shows hungry children made to sit in front of food for hours at a time without eating it in order to build "patience". One can only imagine the child abuse going on behind the scenes to make this sort of lunacy possible. Walden Two is the sort of book that is in favor of beating your children.

Towards the end of the book it's revealed that Frazier is a complete egomaniac who personally runs and plans much of Walden Two (But um, actualleh that's totally OK b/c Walden Two has a 4 hour work week!!!!). He compares himself to Jesus Christ and his fellow Planners as his disciples.

Walden Two takes the liberal argument "hurr durr, muh human nature means ppl too greedy for socialist utopia" and responds with "You're correct, people are greedy and evil! Let's MIND CONTROL people into being selfless!" instead of refuting the initial argument as liberal bullshit.

All attempts at implementing Walden Two IRL are either hippie communes that have long since abandoned Skinner's philosophy (as they should) or dystopian torture nightmares that take Frazier's egomania in the original novel to the extrPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>16640
noooo don't give up on marxism, you know so much about german idealism nooooooo
lol, lmao

>>16641
the fact that he is dumb as fuck, probably. he begins by complaining that, because a guy went and commodified child abuse, these utopian fantasies are the inevitable future of society. class struggle? material interests and conditions? politics? forget about all of that, what changes reality are our hecking ideas! the world would be so different if everyone read <utopian fantasy #162>!

>The most notable modern-day Walden Two inspired project is the Judge Rotenburg Center founded by Matthew Israel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Israel) which tortures autistic children with their patented Graduated Electronic Decelerator whenever they act out (or scream in pain when being shocked, or fail to reply when greeted, or break some other minor rule). This Matthew Israel guy studied Behaviorism under P.F Skinner, read & loved Walden Two as his favorite novel, and literally has a Disney Villain backstory where he realized he can control people through pain and founds a school to continue doing just that.
This guy is complete fucking scum. Being sent to a place like that is one of my biggest nightmares. Institutions are honestly worse than prison because at least most prison sentences end. I want to force him to play a piano with the threat of being electroshocked the second he stops.

>>16633

>"He compares himself to Jesus Christ and his fellow Planners as his disciples. "


Indeed; All Behaviorists are like that.

>Watson

He literally didn't believe that language existed and advocated for parents to neglect their children and to not be too affectionate.

>Skinner

An egomanic who craves nothing less than for society to be exactly how he wants and for him to 100% be in control. He's just like what you said he was, but to add, his theories have been debunked by Chomsky ( https://chomsky.info/1967____/ ), and he even made a follow up to W2 where Skinner writes in George Orwell to praise Fraizer for making a society "in line with 19th century anarchism" (Skinner, B.F. (1985). "News From Nowhere, 1984". The Behavior Analyst, 8(1), p. 6.)

>Lovaas

Very much like Watson, except applying his theory to autistic children specifically, literally beating them up for not doing something trivial like dancing to music, on top of him calling them sub-human; co-founder of Autism Society and an early pioneer in what we now call "autism awareness"

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>>23453
These men share a lot in common with evangelicals



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If you guys had to pick 4 short books as the ultimate starter pack on /leftypol/itics, which ones would you pick?

Which ones are the best combination of being essential, uncomplicated and short?
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>>22878
>Anti-Dühring and The German Ideology in the same list as On Contradiction

>>22993
On Contradiction is like one of those vaguely anti-capitalist economics books, that articulate a lot of marxist concepts in a subtly worse way, but for dialectics. It might be a good introduction to some people. Mao famously had an instinctive grasp on marxism and only read Capital later in life.

>>22993
Y'know Mao was a better writer for normal people, right?

>>22997
>Mao famously had an instinctive grasp on marxism and only read Capital later in life.
He was an anarchist LARPing (to great success) as a Marxist. It's why the western left idolizes him. If you actually read Marx and take it seriously you wind up like Deng or Xi.



 

I read The Poverty of Historicism by Karl Popper recently, and it was an interesting book. The overally thesis is that unified theories of history and don't make sense, and that it's impossible for us to reliably guess the direction society will take in the future.

This obviously flies in the face of historical materialism, which is a pretty key part of Marxist theory. So I'm interested to hear what you guys have to say about it. Is he right? Or is there something he missed?

Yeah I think it would be silly to believe the realisation of communism is inevitable personally. I just think Marxism and dialectical materialism is a useful model to understand change in society which we can implement to try and enact change for our (the proletariat) collective interests. I don't subscribe to historical materialism and the "stages" view of history in the absolute, and I haven't encountered anyone who seems like they do, aside from just speaking about the inevitability of communism as like an inspiring call to action. But interested to follow this discussion.



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Why Alisa Rosenbaum (((Ayn Rand))) in any their created novels fuck with different people for free?
She are commie?
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What are the best books on domestic imperialism? I suppose I'd be most interested in the struggle of the Black nation and the Indigenous nations in Anglo-America.

I've read the basics of Lenin's "Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism" and I'm in the process of reading Kwame Nkrumah's "Neo-Colonialism: The Last Stage of Imperialism". I've read a few writings of the Black Panthers.

I think I probably want to read "Golden Gulag" next.



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CIA / FBI / Fed / Conspiracy General
"The X-Files got nothing on this shit"
This Thread is dedicated for the discussion, analysis and reveal of obscure information on the shadowy hands of capitalism and fascism - the federal agents - and their efforts as part of the porky hydra. Propaganda and conspiracies of these Alphabet agencies and their impacts today and past are to be discussed.
Information and discussion on the OSS and NSA or equivalent government agencies of other countries - such as MI6 of Britain or the Nazi Gestapo - are also encouraged to be posted. KGB and FSB can be discussed too.
Technology for spying and espionage are also welcome. NATO and US military abuses or the affairs of corporate military-industrial complexes that are covered or hushed up also apply. Whistleblowers like Assange and Snowden are permitted sources of information as well.

Please contribute to leftypedia >>3780
Debunking anti-leftist myths >>4210 including debunking of "Le Holohoax"
https://leftypedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency
https://leftypedia.org/wiki/List_of_atrocities_committed_by_the_United_States

Rules: No idpol drama, no anti-communist rhetoric, no sectarianism, no soyjak spam or emotional gaslighting; Glowies Keep Out!

Major Topics:
>Anti-Communist Action:
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Holy shit guyzzz I found the pdf confirming pentagon UF0z did 9/11

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Ah yes, things that never happened. This is just a prank. In the same document, the bills to be passed are named "Lebron" and "Jordan".

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An interesting person I've posted at times. They have some good stuff on the Ukraine conflict from when it began and some content on 9/11 and other false-flags, conspiracies and glowie ops. Guy does a lot of hands on work, helping in third-world countries.
https://stormcloudsgathering.com/

Document on Psychological Operations from the 1950s https://archive.ph/l1HFt

Bumping a great thread



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I recently came across a heritage post about a castle in Lebanon built by the Crusaders, It got me curios and I did some digging and I was surprised to learn that pretty much all castles in the MENA countries were either built by the Crusaders or the later Ottomans.
So I have to ask, what gives? The Arabs were a smart people and castles and fortresses are a fairly useful resource for defeating cavalry forces. Even outside large scale war sand politics, in small petty tribal warfare, they would have been incredibly useful, that's why they appeared so much in Europe and why did the Ottomans adopt them more thoroughly then the Arabs.
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Arabs are plenty capable of building stone forts(they most likely built great Zimbabwe). they just don't build castles that much.

>>21799
did they? i would assume common influence from byzantine architecture that both western europe and the ottoman empire had

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furusiyya
Furūsiyya (فروسية; also transliterated as furūsīyah) is the historical Arabic term for equestrian martial exercise.[1] Furūsiyya “Knighthood” is a martial tradition dating back to pre-Islamic Arabia.[2]
Illustration of a horse's ideal physical traits, 13th century manuscript of the Kitāb al-bayṭara by Aḥmad ibn ʿAtīq al-Azdī.
Late Mamluk / early Ottoman Egyptian horse armour (Egypt, c. 1550; Musée de l'Armée).

The term is a derivation of faras (فرس) "horse", and in Modern Standard Arabic means "equestrianism" in general. The term for "horseman" or "cavalier" ("knight") is fāris (فارس),[3] which is also the origin of the Spanish rank of alférez.[4] The Perso-Arabic term for "Furūsiyya literature" is faras-nāma or asb-nāma.[5] Faras-nāma is also described as a small encyclopedia about horses.[6]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furusiyya#List_of_Furusiyyah_treatises

>>21799
ottomans loved larping as romans/byzants so that might have had some influnce

>>21777
they did
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qahira_Castle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Hazm_Castle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahla_Fort
>>21801
>(they most likely built great Zimbabwe).
and why would you think arabs built great zimbabwe?



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Modern parasitologists recognize that they have not found all human parasites. They estimate that hundreds if not thousands of human parasites will be found in the coming years.
The most deadly human parasites besides top-ranking corporate executives are protozoa, which are single-celled organisms. Some of these tiny creatures (there are over 80,000) have brought humans more misery and death than anything else in history(again, besides CEOs), including wars and famine. The most well known deadly parasitic protozoa is plasmodium, which causes malaria.

Parasites are separated into four main groups: 1) protozoa, which are tiny, one-celled organisms; 2) helminths, or worm parasites, such as tapeworms and pinworms; 3) arthropods, which aren’t parasites themselves, but these insects and spiders are common hosts of parasitic diseases; and 4) top-ranking corporate executives.

Most parasitic infections happen in warm climates or capitalistic societies, such as tropic or subtropic regions or the US healthcare system.

The only parasites are proletarians who leech off of the genius and bravery to endure risk of the bourgeoisie but then demand more than was consensually agreed to in their employment contract.

I bet most parasites aren't actually harmful.
It's only a select few that are.
Same way most bacteria isn't pathogenic

>>23219
It wouldn't be parasitism then. It would be commensalism (neutral) or mutualism (if it benefits you too).

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>>23191
>endure risk

>>23356
>first pic
I do praise gamblers though



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what was the name of that pre-WW2 German author that wrote how stereotypically non "aryan" germans were typically the most fanatical Nazis because they knew that they were on the fringe of being considered racially acceptable. Note how the entire high command of the nazi apparatus were a men who were mostly dark-haired, brown-eyed and somewhat short by german standards and who personally proved the lunacy of the aryan "race" as a concept by their mere existence
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>>23391
The nazis were elected by the middle classes (just like any politician), what are you fucking smoking?

>>23391
The thing about hitler and Nazism broadly speaking is that it is socialism of phenomena and not the noumena like marxism is, he saw the Jews which embodied capitalism but are not capitalism itself, just like his racialism, seeing the backwardness of other cultures as a manifestation not of capitalist imperialism but of the people themselves. Nazism is socialism but of the vulgar kind that fails to abstract from the concrete.

>>23398
lower middle classes of Shopkeepers, clerks, small business owners were abstetoyl a strong voter base for Nazis, but they would not have made it anywhere without support of rural, workers and the old aristocracy

>>23402
Again, my point is that there are dozens of quotes from Hitler that an average person on the Internet who supports Communism might find appealing or agree with, but that’s due to the nature of populist, authoritarian, militaristic, and nationalistic state


>"The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today's bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can"


>"National Socialism derived from each of the two camps the pure idea that characterizes it, national resolution from bourgeois tradition; vital, creative socialism from the teaching of Marxism."


>"All the more so after the war, the German National Socialist state, which pursued this goal from the beginning, will tirelessly work for the realization of a program that will ultimately lead to a complete elimination of class differences and to the creation of a true socialist community."


>"Capitalism as a whole will now be destroyed, the whole people will now be free. We are not fighting Jewish or Christian capitalism, we are fighting very capitalism: we are making the people completely free.' … It is only the international Stock Exchange and loan- capital, the so-called 'supra-state capital,' which has profited from the collapse of our economic life, the capital which receives its character from the single supra-state nation which is itself national to the core, which fancies itself to be above all other nations, which places itself above other nations and which already rules over them."


>"In those countries, it is actually capital that rules; that is, nothing more than a clique of a few hundred men who possess untold wealth and, as a consequence of the peculiar structure of their national life, are more or less independent and free. They say: 'Here we have liberty.' By this they mean, above all, an uncontrolled economy, and by an uncontrolled economy, the freedom not only to acquire capital but to make absolutely free use of it. That means freedom from national control or control by t
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>>23410
Okay, so I'm not European, and I'm not fond of mass migrations to countries because I know they destabilize nations. However, my position on the Jewish question is this: it's almost impossible to pretend they aren't vastly overrepresented in various fields, intelligentsia, entertainment and politics. That doesn't mean they deserve genocide, but I follow the Gumilev school of thought that the Jews should be 'remade' by being placed in a province where they do manual labor for generations and even intermingle with the locals to create a new Jewish race without



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"About 69 percent of married Asian women are married to Asian men, while 25 percent of married Asian women have white husbands. "But as common as marriages are between Asian women and white men, cohabitations are even more prevalent," says Ono. "In fact, Asian women are more likely to be living with white men than with Asian men. Nearly 45 percent of cohabiting Asian women have white partners, while less than 43 percent have Asian partners."
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Hispanic male + White female makes up 22% of all interracial marriages in the US.
Black male + White female is 2x more likely than vice versa.
Elon Musk, JD Vance and Trump are all pro H1B visa for Indian males.

>Create society based on white supremacy
>All your media promotes your sexual ideals
>Create clear two-race divide in the country, in which only those of african descend are fundamentally and always othered as the enemy, due to and with continued practices of slavery
>All other groups are tolerated as long as they assimilate into the dominant white supremacist superstructure and don't tarnish the phenotypical european-african dychotomy too much
>continue this for centuries
>people are completely dumbfounded about why non-african women overwhelmingly are attracted to men elevated to a higher social status purely by virtue of their appearance in their society and can thus provide more protecting, more wealth, and a higher social status
>people are completely dumbfounded by women and men of the undercaste, whose children will by virtue of this system always be seen as the undercaste phenotypically, are unattractive, no matter what race the other parent was. (which also goes, in part, for native americans or native-american latinos in the usa, which are an underclass exploited and enemied, and by virtue of fitting into the skin tone based dichotomy of the usa, dark skinned people of other races)
>people are completely dumbfounded that the natural or patriarchal tendency of men to be more hostile to men of an out-group, while being xenophilic to women of the outgroup, leads to the dominant group in a society consistently positively highlighting upper-male other-female pairings while consistently hiding to other-male upper-female pairings in media

It truly is a mystery. It must be not because of any of these reasons, which repeat themselves in every society across the world just with the races swapped around. No, it must be because, using only data from this hyper-racist, founded-explicitly-as-an-ethnostate, highly segregated society, that the males from their dominant class are naturally superior, and males from other races are naturally inferior. Yes that must be it.

>>23406
>inb4 why dont african women date white men then?
People caught in an open war of extermination, in which the losing side if irredeemable no matter what they change by virtue of their dna, which defacto is what the usa is or was, are generally not attracted to each other.
Thats why you dont see palestinian girls dating IDF soldiers. But that is why you did see conquistadores dating native women, because their societies, even if they had racial castes, had explicit tiers between native and spanish. You cant be half-black in the usa. Someone who is 90% genetically european is still black by virtue of skincolour and hair texture. Only those with african ancestry to get the right set of phenotipical characters to pass for some variety of white can become white, and only if they immediately hide their history in most cases.

Meanwhile for asians, half asians are tolerated so long as they act white, and quarter asians are indistinguishable from some variety of european phenotipically.

This is quite possibly the only place where culture focussed "leftists" have a point in that the cultural sector of society plays a big role in perpetuating ethnic domination, and that, together with economic emancipation, this is an area in which a big impact can be made just through diversity in roles. And the right knows this, thats why it hates it.

>>23202
fascinated in how dumb somebody had to be not only to believe this but write it down consciously and still believe it.
Sage, Report and Hide of course. >>>/siberia/

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