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 No.5376[Reply]

Who did it? Soviets? Nazis?
Why were the polish officers killed? What was the motive for the massacre? Were they preparing a revolt?

Are the documents fake? Whose investigations are trustworthy?

Discuss
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 No.5711

>>5710
https://www.net-film.ru/film-51471/
cadres from Leningrad trial with the nazi war criminals (1946) including Arno Düre, who was accused of war crimes against the polish officers in Katyn

 No.6250

>>5376
the nazis had a motive but the NKVD version is very well documented

 No.6259

Nazis, anyone telling you otherwise is one themselves.
https://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/rdv16n2/katyn.htmlenin_capLenin Cap

 No.6261

>>6250
>very well documented
The only "proof" I've ever seen is Closed Packet no.1, whereas the evidence the Nazis did it is considerably stronger. https://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/rdv16n2/katyn.htm

 No.6377

>>6261
>whereas the evidence the Nazis did it is considerably stronger.
well, with the soviet version we at least know that the POW camps existed, we know who worked there.
In the case of the version with germans being behind the crime, we have no single document that took the POW camps, or that they created new ones (so called ON camps mentioned in the Burdenko report), we have no proof of existance of the supposed commanders of these camps.
After Burdenko comission the soviets never even attempted to do another investigation, they didn't even try to find the supposed nazi criminals who did the massacre. The only nazi who was ever put on trial for Katyn was Arno Düre who was supposedly burying the dead officers but he was released from prison in 1954 and when he returned to Germany he claimed that he was forced to make this testimony.

so even if we completely disregard the version that NKVD did it, we still don't know what actually happened. The only proofs for Katyn massacre being done by nazis are those brought by Burdenko commission, which is also not much.



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 No.5353[Reply]

Hey guys I know this might seem a bit annoying but has anyone here read Rudolph Rummel's work or Benjamin Valentino? Their death rates are so astronomically high and if someone already knows the fault with their methodology I don't wanna slog through their nonsense.brocialismBrocialism

 No.5354

>>5353
Im so dumb, it literally says Rudolph was part of the victims of communism foundationbrocialismBrocialism

 No.5355

Why did you even want to read those books in the first place?

 No.5356

>>5355
To discredit them? I was talking to someone and they mentioned these people.brocialismBrocialism



 No.5329[Reply]

Hi. Is there anyone interested in doing an Anarcho-Nihilist reading group? The purpose would be to help get a better understanding of the individualist/nihilist/'post-left' currents in anarchy.
I have a few text suggestions but i'd like to reach concensus if not do a poll on what to read.

Also, let this be a general PDF repo for non-leftist anarchist thought.anarcho-nihilismAnarcho-Nihilism

 No.5332

try /dead/ maybe

 No.5335

>>5332
It's more useful to ask here.

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 No.5325[Reply]

One of the recent trend in youtube video productions, and one of my favorite and best thing to come of this media imo, has been the birth of various field experts that start doing the work of actually explaining to the enthusiast various knowledge relevant to their skills, an act know as "vulgarization".

Vulgarization has always been a concern of science, because sharing the knowledge is an important part of the process, and many advances are made from people who just happen to have some relevant knowledge to a problem in their own field, or who need a problem fixed and hear of a new thing that might be applicable to their case. Nobody can build upon a knowledge he does not know yet.
But it was sadly limited by the need for the expert to use intermediaries, such as "science journalists", to reach a wide audience, with all the misconceptions someone not educated on the subject can bring, and the high cost for the enthusiast who'd like to know more of a subject, but can't really justify going to a specialist conference far away where he won't understand half of it just cause a subject sound interesting.

Youtube has allowed some of these more pedagogic experts to do focused vulgarization on important piece of their fields, with often surprising quality given the lack of financial means.

So here I will share my favorites ones, and ask you to share if you know of any good ones yourself, because sadly, all the ones I know of are in my own language.


First, Homo Fabulus, a biologist.
I recommend taking a look at his serie on morality, and it's potential biological origin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jkIONNqBcg&list=PL8mPrvnM78yJ78OqgF4xtvJyOvJTeWjiz&index=1
(note: it's in french, but for that one there are english subtitles available)

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 No.5326

thunderf00t has some cringe content but he also does important work debunking dumb futurist meme tech
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQJW3WMsx1q0js6FvjO89H62m60SoHdE6

 No.5328

>>5325
for history I like Military History Visualized
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK09g6gYGMvU-0x1VCF1hgA



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 No.5311[Reply]

What's a good introduction to philosophy from a marxist perspective?
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 No.5371

>>5366
capital isn't about philosophy

 No.5372

>>5371
I've often heard Lukacs' History and Class Consciousness is basically what Marx would've wrote had he stuck with philosophy.

 No.5373

Not the German ideology. Its bullshit

 No.5374


 No.5375

>>5373
Unrelated, but I watched a Video about the German Ideology some time ago and there was this one Guy in the Comments who just insisted that it was the Jewish Ideology instead. I found pretty pathetic, but also funny



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 No.5280[Reply]

>Be once in a millennia genius
>Writes big book detailing and explaining all his ideas and findings
>Explains something via a concept that he hasn't laid out yet and without which nobody can fully understand the explanation
>"Oh, don't worry anon! This concept I use here will be explained in chapter 7 of Volume 3 of this work"
>Goes on eating drinking and smoking like a pig
>Dies before he even finishes Vol 2
>Leaves Engels to guesstimate and extrapolate what he meant

Thanks, Karl, not like we needed all the knowledge we can get to fight the most powerful oppressive force in human history or nothingread_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book
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 No.5309

>>5308
ah the early 2010s good times

 No.5310

>>5280
>>Be once in a millennia genius
This is correct

 No.5312

>>5280
objectively a shit take. Communism is the cult of the idea man

 No.5344

>>5312
Explain

 No.5347

>>5312
There's no "take", it's a shitpost bro



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 No.5247[Reply]

Audiobook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRNuTHEmgKU

Civilization and Its Discontents is a book by Sigmund Freud, the founder of psychoanalysis. It was written in 1929 and first published in German in 1930 as "The Uneasiness in Civilization". Exploring what Freud sees as the important clash between the desire for individuality and the expectations of society, the book is considered one of Freud's most important and widely read works, and was described in 1989 by historian Peter Gay as one of the most influential and studied books in the field of modern psychology.

Feel free to post your thoughts, lectures, secondary reading material.

A reading group gets together Saturdays around 22 UTC and this is the next text to be discussed.
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 No.5283

>>5282
Falun Gong is an arm of the imperialists and funded by the CIA, I do understand why they say what they say.
Freud, and psychoanalysis in general, on the other hand, is being repressed in imperialist society by faithful shock troopers such as you, except where they can use it to control us and sell us products.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

 No.5291

>>5282
the difference is that PsychoAnalysis isn’t an ethical doctrine. Cults are.

 No.5292

>>5255
>There's nothing yet with which I particularly strongly disagree.
You agree that people have perfect memory within them? You agree that telepathy is a real thing?

 No.5293

>>5292
Show me where in this text Freud implies either of those.

 No.5364

https://tv.leftypol.org/r/streaming
About to go live reading the last chapters.



 No.5223[Reply]

so what does this board have to offer
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 No.5240

>>5223
This board mainly offers books

 No.5245

>>5240
any recommendations

 No.5246

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 No.5301

>>5228
>theoryhead
>Vaush
Faggot, please!!!!read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book



 No.5215[Reply]

Whatever happened to the free/open culture movement?
In the late 00's there was this big push against copyright law and in favor importing/adapting the values of free software to general culture and media but once we entered into the 10's it puffed away like if it had never existed.
I made this same thread on lainchan months ago and one of the answer said that "Copyright law became more flexible and managed to adapt to the internet making Creative Commons and the like irrelevant" and that's truth, the issue now is if a free culture is still worth fighting for when it seems like content creators are protective as ever.
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 No.5286

>>5277
But the difference is that the rights you surrender are legal fiction while your computer is material reality. See the post above yours.

 No.5287

>>5286
your ISP threatening to blacklist you and withhold service is also material reality

 No.5316

>>5237
>Gavin Mueller
In a recent interview he compares the FOSS movement to the Luddite movement. While this is a take I've never heard before, the more I think about it the more it makes sense. https://novaramedia.com/2021/03/26/luddites-hackers-saboteurs/

 No.5317

>>5316
Apparently Johan Söderberg shared similar sentiments in his 2008 book, Hacking Capitalism: The Free and Open Source Software Movement and later from Mueller's colleague, Maxigas in the Journal of Peer Production. Both are/were associated with the P2P Foundation.

 No.5331

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So in the end is an free culture still worth fighting for?



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 No.5204[Reply]

Did the Renaissance change art only for the better?

For example, are there any negative things to say about the way music evolved during that period?

All I hear and read about Renaissance art (hell, anything to do with the period, for that matter) are positive things or at least it's talked about in a positive light. Zero criticisms of it whatsoever.

 No.5206

Kant and Heidegger critique Renaissance philosophy if that’s something you’re looking for



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