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 No.1763[Reply]

Just saw this video on the Soviet Antarctic ice cruisers called Kharkovchanka, and thought it was pretty good.
And I remember seeing here and there in all manner of different threads stuff like Soviet nuclear icebreakers and massive scaled naval hovercraft.
So I figure weird and supercool Soviet vehicles like those would be a great topic for an /edu/ thread,
as well as any normal Soviet vehicles of course because they're cool too.

https://youtu.be/f6R-h06IsJw
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 No.1785

this is also an interesting project that could have make a lot of things easier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VOzKuEhrMY

I don't understand why people keep telling there's no innovation under socialism, the way I see it, there's only innovation that's actually needed. The only "innovation" capitalism came up with is technology that dumbs down the populations into obedient consumers.
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 No.1677[Reply]

Does anyone have a PDF of Charles Fourier's "The Hierarchies of Cuckoldry and Bankruptcy"?
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 No.1735

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 No.1736

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>>1734
legend

thanks. uploaded this to libgen
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 No.1737

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>>1734
Don't destroy it anon, it's perfectly readable.
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 No.1738

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>>1734
Fucking awesome dude. Thank you for what you've done
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 No.1850

>>1734
Thank you, based anon


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 No.53[Reply]

You've heard this argument time and time again that there has never been a successful socialist country, so I thought it would be nice to have a thread talking about successful socialist countries.

Post history, share sources, let's make a list!
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 No.1557

>>333
>>324
>>323
>>303
These pics are from the early 2010s. In those days "The USSR/China/DPRK wasn't real socialism" was unironically used a lot more by leftists online, so anticommunists would regularly spam the original "Only my specific form of socialism can work". Leftists at that time tried to counter that by making these lists even if it meant taking a bunch of people who had nothing to do with each other and throwing them all into the same bag. They're basically dead memes, I don't think I've actually seen anyone use them in years.
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 No.1820

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>>53
>This shit anit-uthoritarian meme again
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 No.1824

>>58
go away radlib, this is /edu/
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 No.1826

>>64
>China
>Laying the groundwork
Barf. They clearly went off the rails to a fairly Nationalist State Capitalism.
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 No.1829

>>1824
Lmao you're not fooling anyone.


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 No.502[Reply]

What makes us so special? What makes us different? Humans are primates, when I look at other people I see, in every sense of the word, an ape. We are animals,we look like animals, we smell like animals. Thinking of what we really are makes my head spin.

What makes us special? What makes us different? What makes our lives meaningful? Are we even special? Are we even different? Are we meant to be in an unending war for dominance of nature that inevitably ends in our mutual destruction? Are we meant to become stewards of the Earth, the next stage in energy usage for Life, living in harmony with the Earth as its first sentient aspect? Why were there no others, why only us? In 500 million years of animal life, why only Man? Can more come after us, if we go extinct? Is our purpose merely to choose for ourselves why we exist? Are we free, or are we slaves? Why do we individually seem so limited, and yet together humanity seems to be without limits?

What is the dialectical explanation for Man? His consciousness? His relationship to Nature? His drive to spirituality? Is it a misunderstanding on Man's part? Does Man not see that those aspects he has are those he shares with Nature? Gained from Nature? Marx wrote that many species engage in labor; yet seemingly only man labors first in his mind, then with his body. Why are We in this regard?

Our notions of honor, of courage, of willpower, of morality; only we created cultures. And yet, other species experience these emotions from which such ideas rose. Other species experience love. They feel fear. They summon bravery to conquer that fear.

The materialist relation between Man and Nature, between Man and Himself; why is Man, why are We?

These questions, they haunt me frequently, I wish to understand, to Nature we seemingly stand above as gods, and yet we are of Nature, not apart from it; and to us aspects of Nature, like our Sun, like our Universe; they seem yet greater than we could ever hope to be. Help me to understand.
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 No.1433

>>1012
Haven't crocodiles been around for longer than us?
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 No.1453

>>1416
Who says we don't?
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 No.1454

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>>1416
I've posted it before and I'll post it again. Read this all, gotta be a little patient though
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 No.1801

>>502
My dear friend, the answer lies in material conditions and a philosophy. Please give it a read will ya'? I swear, I hate people who have existential crisis when they have learned that their higher being (or what many people call soul) is attached to material and will die once your body dies.
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 No.1804

We labor, which then forms our inner monolog culminating in our consciousness. Animals don't labor.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1876/part-played-labour/index.htm


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 No.906[Reply]

I'm trying to learn and understand dialectics, but I think getting some direction for this would be helpful.

Which works should I read to understand dialectical (Hegelian, materialist) thinking and in what order?
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 No.1597

https://www.marxists.org/subject/marxmyths/jordan/article.htm
Is this text accurate? I never saw that the separation between Marx and Engels was an issue here, but the topic of dialectics seems to be pressing.
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 No.1606

>>1597
pretty much. this is why you should never take anyone on /leftypol/ seriously when they talk about "dialectical materialism" as mutually exclusive to "idealism". it's rabid feral pseudery. I don't know how you can read sentences in Marx about "commodity fetishism" and come to the conclusion that he's "anti-idealist"
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 No.1796

how can anybody without an understanding of dialectics glean any understanding of it from this thread, when nobody agrees?
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 No.1799

>>1796
the easiest way to learn it accurately is to gain an understanding of Kant and what is meant by the “noumenal I” and how that relates to the “intellectus archetypus”. (you will obviously have to do some studying to understand what those mean). that’s basically the launching point in which Hegel asserts antinomies are inherent to things-in-themselves since Kant proves it for being-in-itself. it can naturally be projected onto noumena since the Kantian “I” is noumenal. only when you get what I meant by all the things in this post will you grasp the thesis-antithesis of Hegel’s method and how to arrive at a sublation/absorption of those specific types of contradictions/antinomies. the point of this post isn’t for you to understand everything that I’ve typed, but if you can parse it and comprehend it you can claim to have grasped Hegel’s method. and if you believe otherwise, you have been misled.


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 No.1772[Reply]

We all know that Marxists philosophy has roots in the classic European works of Hegel, Greeks etc..

So are there some works/philosophers that would be benefitial to read for Marxist from other branches of world philosophy like Chinese, Indian, African etc.?
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 No.1780

Li Zehou’s “History of Classical Chinese Thought” is from from a Marxist (albeit also vaguely small-n nationalist) perspective and people may find it useful
https://b-ok.cc/book/5576067/51bb02
I have personally found Karyn Lai’s “Introduction to Chinese Philosophy,” while not Marxist, accessible and interesting
https://b-ok.cc/book/730929/dc0ae1
The social context of these matters but is interesting and not at all Strange and Inscrutable to westerners really - Western philosophical revivals also tended to happen in the midst of periods of interminable interstate wars etc
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 No.1781

>>1775
>Hegel even said he studied Chinese and Indian philosophy and found nothing except meaningless superficiality.
p rich coming from Hegel lmao
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 No.1782

This just underlines the need for the project outlined in the OP here: >>216
>We should make a general history guide for an overview on leftists history movements/people/thinkers that type of thing
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 No.1783

Taoism used/use a dialectical method
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 No.1786

Hegel was basically importing eastern dialectics and applying a few changes.


 No.216[Reply]

We should make a general history guide for an overview on leftists history movements/people/thinkers that type of thing

There's a lot to cover so we should just stick with what would make the best overview
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 No.1759

bump
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 No.1764

>>1752
I do not speak with Dengists.
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 No.1765

>>1744
>guy interested in psychology
Try introducing him to Mark Fisher
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 No.1784

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Here you go.
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 No.1788

you guys gotta read Hobsbawm. his whole Age Of series has been indispensable to me


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 No.1319[Reply]

define needs. is it the bare minimum to survive?
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 No.1320

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>according to HIS needs

>define needs. is it the bare minimum to survive?


bruh
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 No.1778

it’s subjective. not in that anything goes. in that it depends on the person. only you know what you need.


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 No.1753[Reply]

I guess lots of people are somewhat skeptical it'll be anything, since a bunch of media outlets hyped it up a decade ago and nothing came of it,
but they were hyping up its discovery then, when it was still a whole world away from the production process.
From what I understand, silicon was much this way at first as well; groundbreaking discovery but a long time before they could figure out mass-production and implementation.
Now it seems at last the stuff is ready to be mass-produced and the actual production line is ramping up, and consumer products with marginal amounts of the stuff are already available.

So this thread will be for general discussion about what graphene is capable of and its implementations,
as well as for advancements in the production process and availability of graphene.

Some articles:
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/what-is-graphene/
http://news.mit.edu/2018/manufacturing-graphene-rolls-ultrathin-membranes-0418
https://phys.org/news/2020-07-solar-cells-graphene-armor.html
https://www.zmescience.com/science/graphene-clothes-thermal-regulation-18062020/
https://newatlas.com/bicycles/graphenlube-graphene-bicycle-lubricant/
https://www.knowablemagazine.org/article/technology/2019/graphene-2d-materials
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 No.1754

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I've been reading some of this and this just feels too unreal. Like it can do so much things better and faster and its like "press x to doubt". Nonetheless, it sounds exciting, especially with the solar panels, and how it will affect renewable energy. Also if you don't mind, do you have anything about the history of Silicon. I kinda want to see how opinions changed as it was being rolled out, like you described.
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 No.1756

>>1754
In all honesty I might've just gotten confused and am overexaggerating Silicon somewhat.
It's really hard to find articles so I've genuinely no idea where I got my history of it to begin with.
Regardless, Silicon was invented in the 1820s and it wasn't figured out that they make computers good until like the 1950s/60s/70s.
The issue I'm thinking of might not have been the mass production of silicon itself, but rather the mass production of the integrated circuit, which silicon was of course quintessential in enabling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_of_the_integrated_circuit
http://www.mobileranger.com/blog/a-very-small-big-deal-the-history-of-the-integrated-circuit/

Now ignoring the fact that it was discovered in the 1820s,
if we just take the timeline from when they figured out how it could be used in an integrated circuit to when it actually became commercially available en masse, it amounts to about 15 years.
Though even then it still took far more time for it to be cheaply available.
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 No.1760

>>1753
A graphene battery (phone charger) released awhile ago, but it was a little underwhelming. It had clear advantages, yes, however perhaps not enough to warrant aping the market.
https://youtu.be/dnE1nO6o-do
I am going to give the benefit of the doubt that it's being underutilised in this product.
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 No.1762

>>1760
Yeah this is just the beginning of what's capable;
they just added like a sheet of it to already existing battery architecture, and that alone has improved charge time from 1.5 hours to 20 minutes, as well as slightly improving capacity.
Actually designing electronics architectures around graphene and incorporating the material in every facet of the device is what will offer the truly immense improvements.


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 No.1704[Reply]

Where does one go after reading Tristes Tropiques? I have heard The Savage Mind is the way to go, but the English translation is supposed to be erroneous

For those unfamillar: CLS was a Marxist/structuralist anthropologist and ethnologist
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 No.1729

Haven't read much of CLS yet, but I suppose Structural Anthropology is the next important work after Tristes Tropiques.

Also check out Maurice Godelier, he was a student of CLS but developed Marxist Anthropology.
CLS was a structuralist first and foremost, him being a Marxist is not that relevant.


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