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A materialist analysis of inceldom

It is a well known fact that young males are having less romantic and sexual relationships than ever. Many on the right blame this on feminism which is half true but not the whole truth. The fact is that inceldom is a natural result of late capitalism.

In previous generations these men would have likely graduated (or even dropped out) of high school and gone into a unionized factory or other blue collar job, and made a high enough paycheck to pay for a house and support and spouse that likely didn't work. I tend to think of this documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAUcmyXbg4 called two american families, which follows two blue collar families one black and one white in the midwest as they live through the deindustrialization of the late 20th/early 21st century and how it kindof destroys them. Not just singleness, but divorce, the breakup of families increased dramatically in this period, and while rightoids are half right to blame "feminism" what they don't realize is that capitalism and increased social liberalization are inherently linked.

In many cultures, especially in the past, marriage wasn't about love so much as duty and obligation to family, ethnic group, god(s), country, etc. Now it is about "enriching the already rich lives" of the people involved. If a market based economy goes on long enough people stop thinking of themselves as members of historically rooted and grounded ethno-religious communities and instead begin to think of themselves as CEOs of a corporation of one.

Capital is a totalizing force which commodifies everything it possibly can, and conservatives who think they can somehow draw a line in the sand at human sexuality and sexual relationships are mistaken. It's too late for that. The demonic entity known as capital has already been summoned, and it can't be controlled. Capitalism will eventually turn all social relations into market relations, making most human relations transactional, and this is the predictable result. In the past a guy would take a girl on a date, and pay for her dinner. Now the girl posts a nude photo on onlyfans which the guy pays for and masturbates over, and the girl uses the money to buy her own dinner on uber eats. What was previously an authentic human relationship has now been intermediated by the marketPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>23383
Also, you look down on homosexuality as defective love, yet you gush at the idea of doing homosexual things, wanting to be desired as an object of beauty, ready to live out your fantasy of hebeandrophilia.

While I understand that distinction of homoeroticism vs homosexuality I will not tolerate such contempt coming from you against gay dudes

I also don't like your glorification of youth suicide to save face from aging. Age numbers aren't personality traits within themselves
You're falling into the trap of idealising youth as innocence.

In fact, I bet that this pederastic drive was responsible for the infantilisation of young people for the past three centuries.

Also, why is sexual attraction to male youth referred to as pederasty but sexual attraction to female youth is called pedophilia (or rare cases, the correct term, hebephilia)?

Also, do you agree that there's a difference between sexual desire and romantic desire?
The two can be related but they're often wrongfully assumed to be the same thing.

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>>23385
>>23383
Speaking of "ugly"…

>to conclude, the concept of male beauty then is universal, but unconscious. it has its contemporary expression in the femboy, which is a homophobic character, and is equally a fascist archetype, of a timarchical (spartan) remembrance, or of a military ethic. a femboy must be adjoined to the beautiful man also, which must be the citizen. revolution must then mean an abolition of blights like obesity. obesity is the aesthetic of consumerist excess which stains the possibility of love (by making love a contingency of codependent uglinesses, rather than the sublime judgement of beauty). to me, fascism in its civic code is about an imperative to male beauty thus (and of beauty in general, which is why all fascisms are eco-fascisms; as per savitri devi. the current civil order is between priests and merchants, while fascism is between warriors and peasants), which is the homoerotic impulse that usurps the formal identity of the homosexual, who only beautifies abstractions (this is the typical leftist who denies worldly beauty and so exalts ugliness; a typical jewish subjectivity also - alain de benoist sees this in how the jewish god has no artistic form in his iconoclasm and thus his being is abstracted from aesthetic judgement. this links to protestantism's twin destiny with judaism in modernity, and especially where financial power is concerned. this priestly attitude extends into all leftism, which calls moral evil "disgusting" but sees physical ugliness as virtuous. Christ is aryan, not semitic, because he has a physical form. jews and muslims literally cannot conceive of this vital theology). there are many beautiful gay men i must admit, but it is a vanity without spiritual purpose. what warriors must do is put gays back into churches and shut them up into closets. gays have a place, but it isnt in the public space.


Correct me if I'm wrong but you're saying that the typical backlash against beauty standards which has lead to "fat acceptance" and "alternative beauty" is because people don't want the responsibility of beauty but want to be seen as beautiful nonetheless?

Also, why are you blaming leftists for this?

And why are you arguing to shut up the homosexual males? You cannot do that while advocating hebeandrophilia.

>>23390
>prepubescent boys and girls are androgynous, until puberty, when the girl becomes fertile, yet the boy is still intermediated in his development. girls also mentally develop earlier than men, showing nature's investment in the male sex (which in nature is typically more beautiful). the distinctions are unequal then, as we see historically and even today. young girls are taken as wives, yet boys are not taken as husbands - a period of development is socially arranged then, which ought to be his training. so the boy then has his particular stage of development, contrary to girls, who are already partial women.

Boys would be considered partial men then because they're expected to do physical tasks. We had preteen males be active warriors or black smiths.
You cannot dismiss their maturational status while fawning over female youth.
Hebegynophilia is a cishet male cognitive disorder.
Also girls don't mentally develop earlier than boys. Physically maybe but mentally?
Again that's because society fawns over female youth more. Boys are treated as dumb comic relief.
Also, boys start making seed by age eleven to fourteen.
Around the same age girls start to ovulate
This whole "girls mature earlier" is exaggerated.

Also, boys are taken as husbands around the same age girls are taken for wives. But they're both trained in their respective roles and given arranged dates.

>this only proves that women are murderers of children. we see this with abortion in history and so on. a witch is a feminine archetype for a reason.

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>>23403
>its the same difference.

Well yes and no. The way they impress on it is different.
They make male youth love seem more comical while female youth love is given more glamor. It's maddening.

>you can be fabulous without being gay 💅🏻


This. In fact most of our fabulous snazzy fashion was made by heterosexual men.
It's just that homosexual men have adapted it.

>in the animal kingdom it is common for mothers to kill their children.


Usually the males kill non-cosanguine babies. Females do too.

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>>>/siberia/814664
You don't need marxist-rodgerism. Just build a VR setup.



 

Do you believe in telegony?

If it's only on an epigenetic level, I'm kind of fine with it. As I am with the proven microchimerism through pregnancy. But the thought of microchimerisms potentially occurring as consequence of unprotected vaginal sex alone makes me depressed. Though if I had to guess I'd say only the former two cases are likely to be real.

there's a slim chance that there's some unknown mechanism for the process but the only evidence for that would be circumstantial
>lots of hunter-gatherers believe in it and they know a thing or two about fucking
>scientific institutions are vaguely aligned with societal pressures that went as few pressures on women as possible
>biological knowledge is incomplete
I wouldn't worry about it but I wouldn't be surprised if it were something. If it exists it's probably very minor


If true how do we use it to our advantage?
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>>23335
His girlfriend sucked thirty seven dicks.

>>23337
Ok?
Thirty seven fellatio sessions can range from within a five year period or more.

He could just as easily lick thirty seven vaginas within a five year period.

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>>23333
amateur hour

>>23012
good post & OP and other sciencelets advocating telegony have been unable to provide any response that isnt substanceless rhetoric

>>23320
>if the supporters of telegony can present studies on microchimerism that indicate some form of telegony has occurred

the post youre responding to isnt saying that such evidence should be ignored, its saying that there is as of now no such evidence that that happens, and moreover no evidence that there is even a biological mechanism that would make the process possible



 

What are the best books on Russian, Chinese and the failed German Revolution and East Germany.
Books about other communist revolutions and state establishments are also welcome.

I want to know everything that happened before and after those events occurred
I want to know how the conditions and reasons for revolution happened in the first place
I want to know what happened during the civil wars
I want to know what happened after they won or lost
I want to know what were the mistakes they made

Don't care how many books to get a full understanding but as long as they're credible and good it's fine by me. I prefer PDFs.
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The Prophet Armed, Deutscher

Very fun read, gives good context for the situation that led to the Russian Revolution, and also the immediate decisions that were made, and kind of gets into all of that stuff (it's a biography of Trotsky btw - he also did a biography on Lenin and Stalin).

Also: Twenty Years in Underground Russia: Memoirs of a Rank-and-File Bolshevik – Cecilia Bobrovskaya

I hear it's good, I havent read it and don't have a pdf.

>>12066
Don't forget Trotsky's own History of the Russian Revolution. It's really, really fucking good. Each chapter is written as an in-the-moment narrative, then at the end of each chapter Trotsky gives a breakdown of all the theoretical lessons. The book perpetuates some myths about the revolution and especially Lenin's April Theses, but I don't care because it's just such a page turner. Definitely Trotsky's best work.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1930/hrr/

>>5669
I wanna revive this thread and refocus it on the German Revolution. For those of us in the in the imperial core, I think that it is a shame that the German revolution isn't as studied as either the Russian or Chinese revolutions. This is due to that fact that the material conditions in Germany at the time more closely match those in the imperial core. For example, Germany was a very urbanized and developed capitalist power, with it's own sphere or influence and it's own colonial empire. It also had a well developed parliamentary system, even if it was hampered by the power of the Junkers. Linked below is a good primer for the topic on youtube. I'll be going through the bibliography and finding e-books of the cited works for my own study. As I find them, I'll post them here.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7y0zyKXzhwzrZ0raG4HpT8ZdXx9USoW3&si=n7-mMohaW7Dw7uiL



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I've seen that online courses are a thing but I don't think I could handle that with my autism, plus they seem to cost a fair amount of money most of the time
Any tips?

So what if its hard? Nothing worth having comes easy.

I feel like it'd be a bit hard to structure my studies without guidance though.
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>>23258
You don't need to go to college to learn anything, it's for the certificate and research grant for higher academia.

Read textbooks.

>>23266
fun

>>23260
If you want to learn drawing, John K.'s blog is a pretty good resource. Fair warning, he's a reactionary (of the "the West peaked in the early-60s and the hippies ruined everything" variety), but if you can get past that, he has very good resources on art fundamentals.

>>23258
At a lot of community colleges you're allowed to audit courses. You can just show up and take the class for free without receiving credit. Tuition is essentially a racket. You're not paying for the service of being taught. You're paying for the reception of credentials upon course completion. You can complete a course without getting credit for free. Some enterprising individuals will audit courses to see whether they can pass them easily before taking them for real. This way they get a "taste" of the difficulty of the material and see whether they're missing any gaps in their knowledge before finally paying for the real deal. This is to avoid paying tuition twice if you fail a course the first time.

>>23266
Seems to me that the limiting factor would be access to equipment.



 

https://monthlyreview.org/author/samiramin/
Other links to his work most welcome.

https://monthlyreview.org/2018/10/01/the-communist-manifesto-170-years-later/
>There is no other text written in the mid-nineteenth century that has held up as well as the Communist Manifesto of 1848 by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels. Even today, entire paragraphs of the text correspond to contemporary reality better than they did to that of 1848. Starting from premises that were hardly visible in their era, Marx and Engels drew the conclusions that the developments of 170 years of history fully verified.
Last article he wrote, there seems to be a pattern of old theorists turning to the Manifesto. Comrade Xi also emphasises its depth.

https://monthlyreview.org/2016/07/01/reading-capital-reading-historical-capitalisms/
Here he writes a useful onramp to his work.

Definitely liking this guy and his approach.

Book by Samir.



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What is a dictatorship of the proletariat? I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a kind of representative democracy, but I'm kind of fuzzy on everything else.

>The body was too short or empty.

>The body was too short or empty.(evading minimum character count)

>>23137
> the dictatorship of the proletariat is simply a sublation (reproduction at a higher stage) of the bourgeois state mechanism by its proletarian representation/appropriation

The proletariat does not appropriate the ready-made state machinery of the bourgeoisie



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Post great socialism realism novels which are worth reading.
I'll start with the classic: How the Steel was Tempered by Nikolai Ostrovsky.

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Collected Short Stories of Maxim Gorky (1894 - 1924)
https://michaelharrison.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/The-Collected-Stories-of-Maxim-Gorky-by-Maxim-Gorky.pdf

He has some longer works which are also worth checking out and are freely available online. One I would personally recommend is 'Mother' (1906)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/gorky-maxim/1906/mother/index.htm

>>22990
banger book

>>22990
>doesn't actually post a libgen link or anything
https://libgen.is/fiction/F09DE750EE5A88C7E5F60150A646FE53



 

>They are effectively interchangeable terms since the vast majority of the time you see Perennialism in use it is by a Guenonian Perennialist. The basic idea that all the world's religions are manifestations of the same truth is at least as old as the Renaissance and crops up in the modern day in contexts that have nothing to do with occult fascists though obviously. Huxley would be an example of that.

>But for Guenonian Perennialists, and Nasr is one, it is as far as I know literally all of them besides Wilson. Not all of them very focused on politics, in fact that tends to be the exception rather than the norm. Evola and Dugin are the two big examples of it and Dugin's Guenonianism has always been a bit reserved and mixed with other influences. He was into stuff like Thelema and chaos magic before he got into Guenon and has written critiques of Guenon. When these people do mention politics in passing though it is always in an incredibly reactionary way where they are condemning liberal modernity as an inversion of some pristine traditional (in this perennial occult sense) order. And obviously that carries a condemnation of any possible socialist modernity. Reaction is just inescapable in that view of history, if you see history as a continual degeneration from a lost golden age then you cannot also believe in successively progressive economic stages that are leading to Communism. Every step forward has to be a step downwards.


Gosh what a malicious post in the saged thread. This is surely worthy of a thread.
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>>23326
I said I am not interested in his strawman. I would like him to articulate his view on the anti-universiality of religion.

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>>23323
nta but i was the one who asked him about that post and i kinda agree with him especially

>Reaction is just inescapable in that view of history, if you see history as a continual degeneration from a lost golden age then you cannot also believe in successively progressive economic stages that are leading to Communism.


Guenon posters were sorta my nemisis on /lit/ and this describes them perfectly, that the Truth comes from the oldest living tradition and is diluted through the passage of time. They actually do think that Hindu is more true than Islam etc and advocate converting and joining/following a community without questioning it is the path to a good life. Modern online Traditionalists are definitely just nazis trying to appear well read.

that very different then universality of religious teachings

>>23329
Ok to me this is still a strawman argument.

> The basic idea that all the world's religions are manifestations of the same truth is at least as old as the Renaissance and crops up in the modern day in contexts that have nothing to do with occult fascists though obviously. Huxley would be an example of that.

This is literally the only part of his post that interested me.

>>23329
>Guenon posters were sorta my nemisis on /lit/ and this describes them perfectly, that the Truth comes from the oldest living tradition and is diluted through the passage of time. They actually do think that Hindu is more true than Islam etc and advocate converting and joining/following a community without questioning it is the path to a good life. Modern online Traditionalists are definitely just nazis trying to appear well read.
The truth can only be more clearly or less clearly communicated and all such descriptions ate bastardizations.

>>23329
I'm glad that era of lit is over the spamming was just too much.



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Hello everyone, we have received the results of our project proposal topic, and I'm delighted to announce that we are teaming up with 'leftypedia' to deliver our planned 'argument/talking point resource' idea. In case you don't know, leftypedia is the current version of the old abandoned 'marxistpedia' which was a project started by leftypol users back in the day, so I think this is sort of like a homecoming in a way.

https://leftypedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Anyway, if you have a look at the leftypedia site you might be able to tell that they have a much more formal and 'encyclopedic' tone than what we're planning, just like wikipedia, but the admin is going to create a separate 'category' for our new content that will be called something like 'rhetoric: topic' rather than just 'topic', this will also feature on the frontpage much like the encyclopedic content. As a tenplate, I'd like you to feast your eyes on these pages which someone on leftypedia already made (albeit only on their personal userspace for now).

https://leftypedia.org/wiki/User:Anarcho-Bolshevik/compendium

I'd like to ask if anyone can come up with a slightly more catchy name for our new section than 'rhetoric', cause that sounds a bit cumbersome to me even though I came up with it, so yeah, open to suggestions.

So, since that isn't implemented yet, I'd like you all to try familiarise yourselves with the site for now, maybe take a look at the articles that are already there and improve some of them if you feel able. Unfortunately the site currently has only edit by approval so you will have to wait for any changes you make to be approved, this is because of a persistent spambot problem and I hope that we will be able to work out something to change this to normal editing as on wikipedia and the like, please just bear with it for now.

If you have an answer to a 'common question', or you have an effortpost you'd like to archive and save, then please post it in this topic for now so that we can work on it together until we can figure out how to categorise our new section of the site.

Thanks for your attention!
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You don’t like it? Too fucking bad.

Your acceptance of your beliefs means that you are being retarded, and there’s no way around it. Fuck you, you fucking retards. I’m sick of pretending your idiotic “arguments” are even remotely sensible. You’re a fucking retard, eating retarded shit and calling it ice cream.

The Christian generally believes that there is life after death. This, in light of what we currently know of neuroscience and how the brain works, and doesn’t work when it is damaged, is, no mincing words here, plainly retarded. If you believe in life after death, sorry, — er, no, not sorry — you’re fucking retarded.

The Christian generally believes that faith is a good idea, that believing things for no reason — just because — is a good idea. The Christian generally believes that being more certain of their beliefs than the evidence warrants, is somehow a virtue. The Christian generally is trained to believe that everyone uses faith, and that to point out that others use faith somehow justifies their own use of faith — the words “tu quoque” have no meaning to the average Christian.

The Christian generally believes, in my experience, that an appeal to consequences is a valid way of making an argument. The Christian typically believes that if it can be shown (or, more commonly, if it can be made to appear that it is shown) that belief in Christianity leads to some benefit, or that lack of belief leads to some undesirable consequence, that this justifies belief. This is retarded. If you can’t figure out why, it’s because you’re retarded. Hint: google “appeal to consequences,” you big retard.

Christians generally believe that Jesus was God, after he magically impregnated a virgin, and then emerged from her vagina nine months later, disappeared for 30 years, then turned up as the messiah. The evidence for this? A book which says so. What? Nothing more? No, that’s it, just a book. Are you fucking kidding me? Only a book? Nope, not kidding. They’re that fucking retarded.

Christians often accept the “lord, liar or lunatic” argument as convincing. Gee, David Koresh was either Lord, Liar, or Lunatic. Umm, I’m going to say, Lunatic. Jesus was either Lord, Liar, or Lunatic. Umm, I’m going to say, Lunatic. People who don’t think Jesus was a lunatic don’t know much about lunatics. There’s a word for such people: Retards.

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>every last one, without exception.
>generally
>generally
>generally
>generally
>often

Its practically impossible for every single Christian to be retarded, there are many Christians in the world so there may be some retarded Christians, but obviously not all. You are not serious, so this shouldn't be on the education board.

all religions are retarded, christians arent special just for having the competitive edge

>arguments

you sound retarded too. its fucking religion, it never needed arguments




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