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Discussions on the formal, scientific analysis/critique of class
Starting off with Erik Olin Wright who's broken some ground on this, even if he is basically a socdem at the end of the day
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this? >>9431
it's an alright study of macroeconomics and its effects on labour






Most of the books I see about Pol Pot, Khmer Rouge and Kamdoji from those years portray these things as badly as possible, and compare Pol Pot himself to a mini Hitler, or worse. I would like to know if there is a book that justifies Pol Pot and speaks positively about him and the Khmer Rouge. Thank you in advance!anarcho-communismAnarcho-Communism
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Can any of you find Hou Yuon's The Cambodian Peasants and Their Prospects for Modernization?


Was Vickery pro-DK? From what I've read he was supportive of the Vietnamese invasion


how about from the khmer rouge themselves >>9391


Yeah, Vickery wasn't even pro-KR but pro-Vietnam. But he was still a top notch historian and more unbiased on Pol Pot/Cambodia than any anticommunist author.


Banned thought has several good articles that debunks many lies about the regime and has articles on the specific breakdown of relations between Vietnam and Cambodia.

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Wanted to make a theology general to discuss whatever questions or topics about religion people here may have. I thought about posting this in /siberia/ but I rather have a higher quality discussion tbh, and since /edu/ has much less traffic I think a thread about theology and religion in general would work better than a specific topic about particular denominations and such. So to start, something I had been wondering for a while, in buddhist theology when you die you reincarnate and depending on your karma you'll either be reborn into a human or an animal. So if you are reborn into an animal, after this life what would determine what you reincarnate into? Does buddhism have a way to judge animals? Do you reincarnate into a human by default after living as an animal and just keep the cycle going until you achieve enlightenment? If anyone knows I'd really appreciate it.
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I'm not a reincarnation expert but I'm pretty sure most believe you stay as a human for the most part. You are progressing into advanced forms instead of regressing.

>The idea of the transmigration of souls is also present in Hinduism. Generally speaking, a human soul evolves from incarnation to incarnation. Therefore, it is normal for a human soul to be born again and again only in human bodies until liberation. But there may be rare exceptions. In these exceptional cases a human soul may be born once or twice in a subhuman body to work out very bad Karma. When the bad Karma is worked out, the soul incarnates again in a human body and goes through the process of gradual spiritual evolution.


You might find this (first) book interesting, it's by a Chinese scholar so it's an insider view.
>I know nothing of liberation theology.
Neither do I! Well, not that much, just a bit about the LatAm current, there's more of Christian ones too, like Black liberation theology or that of the Dalits in India. I've read this Michael Lowy article, which I thought was a good if slightly outdated primer, and I have these books but I still haven't read. The marxist in particular Mariategui from Peru also influenced Fr. Guiterrez, a major figure of the LatAm liberation theology.


>>10447 (me)
I had a bit of time to dig more on this topic, I found these articles about Buddhist liberation theology/Dhammic socialism


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>>10498 (me)
And this on Islam.


that Yijie Tang book is really good, thanks for that

(it goes too soft on pomo tho)

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Why is this shithole the most expensive country to live in the world? The normie answer to that would be "well because of its economy and innovation duh". What does that even mean? When I think "country that is 10 years ahead of the world", I think of Japan, South Korea, China. Not some shithole like Switzerland. And funnily enough none of the countries I've mentioned are as expensive to live in as Switzerland. And why am I calling Switzerland a shithole you may ask? Because it's almost entirely propped up by capital, Switzerland itself has little natural resources, in a hypothetical socialist world Switzerland would fall apart as there is nothing to logically justify the existence of most of its industries.
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Anyone care to explain the Ivory Coast and Ghana part?


google it


>And why am I calling Switzerland a shithole you may ask? Because it's almost entirely propped up by capital
TIL USA is a shithole


>TIL USA is a shithole

How did it take you this long?


Because they Ghana turn this pussy wet like the Ivory Coast ya know what I‘m sayin fellas

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New reading project for the Continental Floppa reading group is beginning. We will be reading various writings related to the subject of "Patriotic Socialism" and national identity. This thread is for slower discussion of the topic and readings and for posting links or uploads for relevant texts.

Join our matrix chat to get involved.

Our tentative plans are to discuss readings on Saturdays, but this will depend on what anybody joining the group has to say. We are still determining which texts to include in our readings and the order.
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We've finished Luxemburg's The National Question.
This weekend we will take off (Easter weekend and people may be busy.)
For the next weekend, we're reading Lenin's The Discussion On Self-Determination Summed Up.


why dont you finish this dick

also what are you guys gonna read next?


Told that the reading group may be considering Settlers in the future, I was told whilst Settlers is a culturally important document, it doesn't have much the modern left can benefit from reading it and has many flaws to it.

And I was instead suggested this reading list to better study the question of race and class in the American settler social formation and how racial chauvanism presented itself and sabotage the proletarian struggle for power, something that we can't understand from reading any one book.

Here's the reading lists of books we should read before Settlers:
>A Nation Beneath Our Feet by Steven Hahn
<Workers of the World Undermined by Beth Sims
>Roots of Oppression by Talbot
<The American Crucible: Slavery, Emancipation and Human Rights by Robin Blackburn
>Whiteness of a different color by Matthew Frye Jacobson
<Black Awakening in Capitalist America by Robert L. Allen

W. E. B. Du Bois is an author that would also be integral to study the question as well

I think reading all these books and authors would give us a good comprehensive understanding, but we should also eventually read Settlers for its impact on the left as well to give us the tools to expose arguements and criticisms of the book by those who haven't actually read it


>Told that the reading group may be considering Settlers in the future, I was told whilst Settlers is a culturally important document, it doesn't have much the modern left can benefit from reading it and has many flaws to it.
Black Reconstruction -> Settlers -> False Nationalism, False Internationalism are pretty much the go-to combination for those interested in understanding the thread topic from the context of the New Communist Movement.


This Saturday
Time: 6pm UTC (subject to change if it's inconvenient)
We'll be covering Lenin's The Discussion On Self-Determination Summed Up. (again)
We want to give everyone the opportunity to read and join the discussion, since this text is closing out our introduction to the topic before we move into the modern context in the following weeks. We'll be doing an overview of the Self-Determination question as well, including the question of how the question manifests in the present.

The plan for the readings in the following weeks are:
<1> Decolonization is not a metaphor by Tuck & Yang (2012) (40 pages) https://clas.osu.edu/sites/clas.osu.edu/files/Tuck%20and%20Yang%202012%20Decolonization%20is%20not%20a%20metaphor.pdf
<2> Democratic Confederalism by Abdulla Ocalan (2011) (48 pages) http://www.freeocalan.org/books/#/book/democratic-confederalism
<3> Dawn: Marxism and National Liberation from Tricontinental (2021) (30ish pages) https://thetricontinental.org/dossier-37-marxism-and-national-liberation/

After that, we are planning to look at more specific contexts drawing form this list >>9295 and other places.
Here is the list of suggestions we have been discussing so far.
<Stalin – National Question
<Aimée Césaire
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Let's debunk muh holocaust revishunism with FACTS & LOGIC.

Articles, books, infographs everythings is welcomed.
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>The bends
As a Diver I'll tell you that the Bends form from rapid decompression and are the result of nitrogen/gas bubbles forming in the tissues and blood vessels, primarily of the limbs. It's not guaranteed lethal unless it hits your heart, and even that isn't for sure.
Also the reason the camps got made originally had been to hold the undesirables, and the original method of killing and cleansing had been firing squads (that still did operate on the frontlines like at Baby Yar) but the bullets became more needed to fight, and other methods (such as the gassing vans using vehicle exhaust had been too inefficient. It's far easier to fill a chamber of 100 or more people and gas them en masse in a trapped space before burning or burying the bodies.
>Poorfags wont move even if you point a gun to them
<Muh romans
Besides the fact that the Judaic population of Europe had been less at home there than most other Europeans due to centuries of persecution (such as land-possession laws). Moreover The infrastructure and social structure of Europe in the 20th century are markedly different to Ancient Rome.
Except it didn't, the Judaic diaspora resulting from the policies and activities of the 1930s and 40s was massive, even before the Holocaust began.
>Stupid people invest more time in physical activities
A single article is not proof that "low-IQ = stronger"
>that's anectodal evidence
No, that's called an example, stop using terms you don't undertand
>he is successful, because he has a high IQ
That's nonsense, IQ is meaningless and had little to do with Arnie, given that his fame and success had been made on dedicated Body-building and not intelligence.
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I often see mention of how it's not possible to cremate all the Jews which is a strange argument since no one claimed such a thing. They mainly were shot and buried in mass graves.


True, there's even a famous film depicting the uncovering of immense mass graves


>it's not possible to cremate all the Jews
It's not even true


Any good debunking of Paul Rassinier?

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I've done some smaller things that can help hurt spread of crypto. Some good examples are posting about the falling popularity of crypto and sharing fake stories of ceo deaths. These are all legal and if done correctly cannot be traced back to you.

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Discuss the following claim:

>An unpopular socialist revolution is not worth attempting. The movement must become popular before seizing rule.

Why do you agree or disagree with this claim?
Pragmatically speaking, how important is popular support?
What are some examples of unpopular revolutions? Do they align with or negate the claim?
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You seem to be conflating two distinct things. There is a difference between pandering to the masses and having popular support. Marx and Engels definitely thought there was a need for popularity and used rhetoric to appeal to the masses in their pamphlets, but they just didn't compromise their message to make that appeal. There is a difference between Bonaparte using reactionary populism to appeal to the peasants or Lassalle oversimplifying/changing Marxist concepts to popularize the idea of social democracy and a large segment of workers lead by a party starting a revolution which is joined by the rest of the masses. Otherwise it would just be Blanquism.


/thread basically


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>mao the bonapartist


everything he mentions in that laundry list is obscurantist bs, not "existing practice"


>What are some examples of unpopular revolutions?
Examples of "revolutions" without majority politcal support would be the Saur Revolution which was a minoritarian palace coup, the PDPA did not build in-roads with the majority peasant population which lead to their ultimate demise. Their ultraleft and shortsighted policies lead to them alienating the population who eventually turned on them. That's what happens when you have a revolution with no popular support.

Contrast this to Lenin and Bolsheviks who prioritised majority support before starting their revolution.
From "The Dual Power" by Lenin (https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/apr/09.htm )
>"To become a power the class-conscious workers must win the majority to their side.As long as no violence is used against the people there is no other road to power. We are not Blancists, we do not stand for the seizure of power by a minority. We are Marxists, we stand for proletarian class struggle against petty-bourgeois intoxication, against chauvinism-defencism, phrase-mongering and dependence on the bourgeoisie."
Lenin is saying if you don't want to use violance and coercion against the proletariat (and as demonstrated by Afghanistan will eventually collapse your position of power), you need majority support amongst the proletariat when seizing power.

And from "Can the Bolsheviks Retain State Power?" by Lenin (https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/oct/01.htm )
>"If the revolutionary party has no majority in the advanced contingents of the revolutionary classes and in the country, insurrection is out of the question."
It's the reason why the Bolsheviks launched the revolution in October of 1917, and not April of that year. Had the Bolsheviks attempted to launch the revolution in April when they did not have majority support then it was nearly all but certain the revolution would have been put down.

And maintaing popular support is why the USSR implemented the NEP after the failure of the european revolutions which lead to an isolation of thePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Someone had made what was possibly a troll thread on how could one believe a certain statement by Marx.

I had written up what I think is a pretty decent reply that got directly to the heart of the matter that I want to post here. Feel free to reuse it.

Here it is:

The interpretation of the statement "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles."
to mean that recorded human history is nothing but class struggle means the statement is trivially untrue; A single example can disprove it (Take Pythagoras providing a proof of the theorem of the relationship of the catheti to the hypoteneuse in a right angle triangle, this cannot be reduced to class struggle alone since it requires geometry)

To claim that Marx is making such a trivially untrue statement is to violate the principle of charity, to quote mine and to be anti-hermeneutic (ie. to interpret statements in such a way as to make them necessarily contradictory or false).

Here is a more complete quote: “The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guildmaster and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, that each time ended, either in the revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.”

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"The Juche idea is a man-centered world outlook. It is a revolutionary, scientific, and political theory that accurately illumines the way for realizing the independence of the masses." - Kim Jong Il

Discuss the Juche idea, it's merits, similarities and distinctions from Marxism Leninism, post pdfs, videos, documentaries, and other educational material for coming to a proper understanding of the Juche idea and it's implications. I'll start off the thread with what is often described as the authoritative text for laying out the philosophical and socio-historical principles of the Juche idea, "On The Juche Idea" by Kim Jong Il.

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Texts about Songun





>The Juche idea, the guiding ideology of socialism in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, was and is target of much criticism not only by the bourgeois media vehicles, from who we are already used to reading these types of content, but also by many progressives and so-called communists. Among the latter, stand out, in particular, Hoxhaists and Maoists, those who raise Enver Hoxha as a great defender of the purity of Marxism-Leninism against revisionism and those who follow “Marxism-Leninism-Maoism”, summarized by Abimael Guzmán, leader of the Sendero Luminoso, from Peru, as “the third and superior stage of Marxism-Leninism”.
>It is well known that between the followers of both lines there is a lot of friction, as well as between the main leaders of the two sides. However, when it comes to the Juche idea and socialism in Korea in general, they both embark on a common frenzy of criticism, most often frivolous. In an attempt to prove the "purity" and "superiority" of this or that idea, they launch attacks against the country that, at times, even assimilates and adheres to what is broadcast by the media at the service of capital and of imperialism, which is, in fact, something to be scared about, coming from communists.
>Given this situation, this article is intended to bring to light the criticisms raised against this idea and Korean socialism in order to provide a reasonable clarification and conclusion of what is really in them.

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