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 No.6713[Reply]

What the fuck with this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

>The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly paradoxical idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance.


Am I missing something?

The paradox of intolerance is fucking retarded concept and popper could've figured this out if he just exercised the almonds.

Here's the real deal. There is no "intolerance of intolerence" or other stupid word games, there is only intolerance to injustices. This is a re-branded "muh authoritarianism" bullshit. Either there is justice or you implement it by force. Otherwise you're letting injustice exist.

Every time I hear Popper's name, it's always in some ultra-lib cunty context. How is this pseud taken seriously?
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 No.6866

>>6765
That's an insanely based quote. I'm interested in hearing what you have to say about the paper.

 No.6869

>>6714
This. What does "tolerance" even mean? And what, you're going to "tolerate" other people? At that point aren't you admitting that you don't like them but you've decided you'll just put up with them? It's such a liberal idea of how to look at other people, harboring some secret, seething hatred but tolerating other people instead of being in open conflict with them.

 No.6886

>>6714
>But frankly I don't care about any of this, tolerance is fucking retarded because people have used the word so much they've forgotten what it means and that it isn't all that positive a meaning anyhow. It's a liberal delusion that's a perfect tool for Porky to split the working class with idpol and the inevitable clashing between minority sects.
We should do a genealogical analysis of terms used by liberals.

>>6866
Oh shit anon, sorry. Only saw your comment now.

But either way, it's a good introduction and explanation of historical materialism. It talks about what the author (and me) considers to be the correct interpretation of Marxist historiography, and points outs that Popper's argument is actually invalid as it misinterprets it. But he himself doesn't actually consider hismat to be true, because, as he states:

>[…]although limited in scope, the above outline of Marx central theory suggests that it is by far a more complex theory than that which Russell makes of it. However, a defense of one particular reading of a theory over another should not entail an endorsement of the theory in question. I may agree that the correct reading of Kant commits him to a `two world’ epistemological theory, yet, strongly disagree with regards to the validity of Kant’s transcendental idealism.


And presents Max Weber's interpretation of history, the one that talks about the importance of psychology and protestant ethics to the development of capitalism, as opposed to the changes in modes of production, which themselves provoke class struggle.

But even then, he still finds shortcomings in Weber's theory and muses at the amount of evidence supporting Historical Materialism.

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 No.6894

So, what about Popper's Falsifiability idea?

 No.6899

Popper is a fucking pseud



 No.6891[Reply]

Does anyone have a ProQuest account? I need this full article which effectively refutes an anti-communist snitch memoir written during the McCarthyism era by an ex-communist rat.

Basically, the author of this piece (it's her senior thesis, I believe) argues that the rat lied several times in her autobiography concerning her motives for joining and then ditching and snitching on the CPUSA. It's a very good smackdown so naturally I would like to read the full thing.

https://www.proquest.com/openview/8850071a29d27e97e6b480971ad41e26/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=18750&diss=y


 No.6857[Reply]

Hey all.

I am looking for recommendations for podcasts on history and or agroecology.

But also this can be a thread about anything educational that you really enjoy
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 No.6862

>>6860
alright, now which ones are actually good?

 No.6863

>>6862
most of them

 No.6865

>>6862
I personally found proles of the roundtable to be the best, before their collapse. Their new podcast is good too

 No.6880

>>6865
>before their collapse
What happened?

Also about "from alpha to omega" and "general intellect unit"



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 No.4337[Reply]

There are people who spend their entire lives reading Hegel and still manage to come out empty handed.


ITT we discuss the great thinker, Karl Marx's teacher, and he on who's shadow we walk:

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

1. What are good things to read/view to get an understanding of Hegel from a philosophical neophyte?

2. What service can Hegel's philosophy provide us today?

3. What an be done to make Hegel more accessible to the masses? Why is it so unpenetrable?
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 No.6221

Introduction to Dialectics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_zOcp6PIBs
Logic and Dialectics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwsZwtdFu3k
Hegel's Philosophy of History https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhxw51cdHTE
Religion as Anthropology https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kC0TB8HC5g
Religion is the Opium of the Masses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4aKI66j9hw

Only 2 hours and 45 minutes all together, under 2 hours at 1.5x. A+++

 No.6257

Since Hegel is in vogue, here's the dedicated Hegel thread.
bumperino

 No.6279

>>4554
You will never fully understand Hegelianism unless you understand Leibnizism and Kantianism.
Let that sink in.

 No.6281

>>6279
Thats not that bad, you learn Kantianism in regular philosophy anyway and having that foundation will let you study anyone.

 No.6878

This guy's youtube channel is very good. I've enjoyed every video I've seen.

This particular one is longer than usual, but absolutely great. Goes over some basic hegelian ideas, offhandedly dismisses people like Cockshott that claim that Hegel is not necessary to understand Marxism (that is bait), in general it's a very good video of a broad view of Hegelianism, highly recommended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X34lB3kW14k

Thanks to the anon who pointed out this recent release in the /ITG/ thread. I've been watching it in segments for the entire week lmao.



 No.6850[Reply]

looking for some leftist (or at least lefty friendly) books on the history of the Afghanistan war. I often find that a lot of these types of leftist history books demand a working knowledge of the topic, which I only barely have.


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 No.6832[Reply]

What does /edu/ do for knowledge management? Does it work? How important is it? Experiences?

I am starting a Tiddlywiki and plan on doing the zettelkasten method. The way I understand it, I just take notes and link them to each other with tags or something? Seems straightforward yet quite useful.egoismEgoism
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 No.6837

>>6836
Looks really cool, but I'm already setup with tiddlywiki and I'm not not nerdy (i.e., smart) enough to fuck with emacs tbh.egoismEgoism

 No.6838

I just write notes in org-mode. I used to do these list based outlines but then switched to writing summaries, they are harder to write but I like to believe that it is a "desirable difficulty". Plus they are much easier to read than the stupid lists I used to do.

I don't do zettelkasten because it is too much work. You are not taking notes but building an encyclopedia. You are supposed to extract and isolate every idea in what you are studying and make a self-contained entry for each. That in itself kind of sounds fun but you have to give titles to the entries which is just too hard.

>>6837
> I'm not not nerdy (i.e., smart) enough
You most probably are. Don't get spooked by "intelligence".

 No.6844

>>6838
>I don't do zettelkasten because it is too much work. You are not taking notes but building an encyclopedia. You are supposed to extract and isolate every idea in what you are studying and make a self-contained entry for each. That in itself kind of sounds fun but you have to give titles to the entries which is just too hard.

After doing some more reading on the topic, I'm starting to agree. I don't want to spend all my time micromanaging my thoughts—IMO that seems like missing the forest for the trees in terms of building knowledge. I think I will just write notes in my Tiddlywiki while utilizing the tagging & hyperlinking functionalities to do a pseudo-zettelkasten system.

 No.6845

>>6844
forgot to mention, I am using the TiddlyRoam plugin which is pretty cool. Very useful if you're going to do the whole zettelkasten thing, too.

 No.6846

>>6844
> seems like missing the forest for the trees in terms of building knowledge
I wouldn't say that. It seems to work really well in academic settings, where most of the "input" comes from research papers and textbooks and most of the "output" goes into the same. You will need to know what you want from your notes and organize them appropriately.



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 No.6690[Reply]

What are some books or resources to understand India before 90s economic liberalization? I always see Indians claim that socialism destroyed India and they are prospering under neoliberalism. So I want to understand what went wrong economically and politically in independent India before 90s that doesn't neglect geopolitics and global economy of the time.

 No.6798

I am not aware of any books on this but these two videos cover it.

 No.6799


 No.6840

A book from 1985 about the Indian Big Bourgeoisie
https://archive.org/details/IndianBigBourgeoisie/page/n5/mode/2up



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 No.6677[Reply]

https://learnsocialism.dropmark.com/554165/25389829
this site good for leftist newbies who want to learn about socialism.
This pdf explains Socialism for dummies. I found it to be very informative.

 No.6679


 No.6680

>>6679 (me)
I will translate it and give it to some kids

 No.6734

absolutely fantastic

thanks op



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 No.6671[Reply]

I am going to tackle An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith to advance my understanding of the classical tradition of political economy of which marxist political economy is an extension.
The german political economist and translator of the Wealth of Nations Peter Thal writes in this regard
>Smith’s work lives on in the proletarian political economics; yes only here his true scientific elements have found a lasting monument
I am currently looking for an equivalent to David Harvey's Companion to Marx's Capital which helped me a lot to better understand Marx howsoever it's important to read Harvey critically

tl;dr: ITT we share secondary literature with regard to Adam Smith and his magnum opus the Wealth of Nations.
in german or english
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 No.6676

>>6675
let us enjoy our autism
>>6673
since you read 8 chapters of Vol 2 why not read the first chapter on Smith which is Ch 10? IIRC its all about smith confusing constant capital which later develops into Marx calling him foolish for thinking all revenue can be resolved into v+saccelerationAcceleration

 No.6678

>>6676
i think i am gonna read chapter 10 and 19 of Vol.2 before before I start with WoN

 No.6736

bump for classical economics

 No.6737

File: 1628160538248.pdf (4.67 MB, 186x300, pre-marxian-economy.pdf)

Pdf related, this book is a must read for anyone interested in classical Political Economy and Marx's predecessors/influences. Also, if you're looking for some of Marx's notes on The Wealth of Nations and Smith, check here:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/wages.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1863/theories-surplus-value/ch03.htm

 No.6738

>>6675
RetardtankieTankie



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 No.6609[Reply]

Does anyone have some books which explains the way in which the Soviet economy worked? I am looking specifically at how prices and quantities of goods were adjusted to correspond the demands and needs of the people. Although 1929-1953 is nice, I am more interested in the post-Stalin era of 1961-1985. You can also post how plans worked for other countries such as East Germany, Poland, Yugoslavia, etc.

I am also searching for technical books which explains in detail how the planning process operates in modern China and how this process relate to the economy and private markets in general.

These books can be pro or anti Soviet style planning, although I'd obviously prefer some books which are advocating for such economic models.
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 No.6611

>>6610
I meant >>>/leftypol/405443 of course

 No.6613

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I use this thread as an opportunity to post my new USSR econ reading list:

Allen, R.C. (2009). Farm to factory : a reinterpretation of the Soviet industrial revolution. Princeton University Press.
Chattopadhyay, P. (1994). The Marxian Concept of Capital and the Soviet Experience: Essay in the Critique of Political Economy. Praeger.
Costello, M. (1977). Workers’ Participation in the Soviet Union. Central Books.
Davies, R.W. (1998). Soviet economic development from Lenin to Khrushchev. Cambridge University Press.
Harrison, M. (2002). Accounting for War Soviet: Production, Employment, and the Defence Burden, 1940–1945. Cambridge University Press.
Nove, A. (1990). An Economic History of the USSR. Penguin Books.
Resnick, S.A. and Wolff, R.D. (2002). Class Theory and History: Capitalism and Communism in the USSR. Routledge.
Davies, R.W. The Industrialization of Soviet Russia, Volume 1-7. Harvard University Press.

picunrel

 No.6614

>>6613
Nice list. I'm not OP, but I'd been looking for something like this. I've heard of only a couple of these books, so having a list like this is helpful. Thanks!

 No.6624

Ismail has uploaded quite a few books on soviet planning and soviet economics, use the search box
https://archive.org/details/@ismail_badiou

 No.6656

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input–output_model

helped to bomb nazis by allies as well



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