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 No.6217[Reply]

Can you recommend me some books that exposes the pornography addiction in modern society? I want a book that explains this phenomena by a marxist perspective, without any conservative "but tha westarn moral is dyingg!!11".
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 No.6760

>>6756
>unamused.jpg
<this is /edu/
Imagine posting an actual meme image, and ignoring the image with cited sources while calling the other out for "memes".
>your pro-porn and are a slave to it
<Just control the addiction, heroin isn't so bad if you got control!
Inb4 "false analogy" the effects of pornography are comparable to heroin and other hard drugs, not some basic bitch shit like alcohol and weed.
>which I'm sure you haven't read
I did, you didn't given that your "argument" is
just screeching "M-moral-fag!!!" when literally none of my post is about morality or ethics whatsoever. COPE HARDER FAGGOT.
>show that people get aroused easily
Except that's a oversimplified and intentionally misleading claim
>This is not new, and never has been
Actually it is, faggot. Pornography wasn't as graphic, easily-accessible and wide-spread even back in the 90s, people jacked to Hustler and Play Boy, which was just nude girls, not sex scenes and were free and couldn't be sold to minors legally. Anyone can open Pornhub and find tens of thousands of videos, pictures and more today.
In the past, before the 1960s porn was limited to very esoteric circles of photographs which were neither widespread, nor widely sought. Erotic imagery from actual art is not the same as pornography either, so don't bring up some ancient depiction of a sex scene as some evidence of porn being old.
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 No.6761

>>6760 fucking autocorrect
>and were free
and weren't free

 No.6770

>>6760
>Inb4 "false analogy" the effects of pornography are comparable to heroin and other hard drugs, not some basic bitch shit like alcohol and weed.
This is very clearly just sexuality being a strong presence in the human experience. Your treating it as if its an opiate that should be rejected at every turn.
>>show that people get aroused easily
>Except that's a oversimplified and intentionally misleading claim
Elaborate.
>Actually it is, faggot. Pornography wasn't as graphic, easily-accessible and wide-spread even back in the 90s, people jacked to Hustler and Play Boy, which was just nude girls, not sex scenes and were free and couldn't be sold to minors legally. Anyone can open Pornhub and find tens of thousands of videos, pictures and more today.
>In the past, before the 1960s porn was limited to very esoteric circles of photographs which were neither widespread, nor widely sought. Erotic imagery from actual art is not the same as pornography either, so don't bring up some ancient depiction of a sex scene as some evidence of porn being old.
Deliberate misinterpretation of what I said but I'll bite. Your acting as if before pornhub people had more "tame" sexuality. Go out and look through the ancient drawings of sex and you will see its just as raunchy as it is today.
>Again, PORN IS FREE, only in a trap will you find free cheese - YOU are the product, retard.
No shit.
This is simply rebranded evangelical talking points of the 80s moral panics, but we're stuck in a time loop between the 80s and now. Clearly your under 25 and a virgin who is afraid of they're own dick. Go outside, have sex and pay attention in school.

 No.6775

I don't know why people go out their way to defend such garbage. Modern p*rn is distinct from what we've seen in the past in terms of accessibility and the ability to escalate. There's probably not much from a leftist perspective unless you want to dip into radfem stuff.directxDirect X

 No.6776

>>6770
>very clearly just sexuality being a strong presence
So basically you're just repeating yourself without actually arguing, concession accepted
>eating it as if its an opiate that should be rejected
If you can't see the difference between literal brainwashing of dopamine receptors and normal libido, you need help.
>Elaborate
The fuck is there to elaborate, yes humans are horny beings but porn is an unnatural product, that doesn't fulfill basic needs and actively affects our minds in similar ways to narcotics; that being addictive and damaging to the brain. Porn is not a part of normal sexuality and people shouldn't be aroused this easily because that's called hypersexuality, which is a disorder.
>our acting as if before pornhub people had more "tame" sexuality
Yes, yes they did. Outside of the upper class and other lazy bastards with money, most people had sex to have children and did not diverge too far from just that sex. Moreover even casual sex is still less shitty than pornography because its actually real.
>see its just as raunchy as it is today
Come back to me when you find the dozens of futa furry porn and shemale domination and all sorts of fucked shit. Come back to me when you show me that murals, paintings, drawings, wood-cuttings, frescos, carvings, sculptures and more depicted sex constantly, graphically and in public. And no showing genitals or having a mildly erotic scene is not porn.
>This is simply rebranded evangelical talking points
1) Wrong
2) I think I'll side with the Evangelicals on this one given that porn and pro-porn liberals have tended to be the worst kind of glowfaggot scum anyhow
>Clearly your under 25 and a virgin who is afraid of they're own dick
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 No.6189[Reply]

>"This means that creative individuals remain in contact with the extra information constantly streaming in from the environment," says co-author and U of T psychology professor Jordan Peterson. "The normal person classifies an object, and then forgets about it, even though that object is much more complex and interesting than he or she thinks. The creative person, by contrast, is always open to new possibilities."
>Previously, scientists have associated failure to screen out stimuli with psychosis. However, Peterson and his co-researchers - lead author and psychology lecturer Shelley Carson of Harvard University's Faculty of Arts and Sciences and Harvard PhD candidate Daniel Higgins - hypothesized that it might also contribute to original thinking, especially when combined with high IQ. They administered tests of latent inhibition to Harvard undergraduates. Those classified as eminent creative achievers - participants under age 21 who reported unusually high scores in a single area of creative achievement - were seven times more likely to have low latent inhibition scores.
>The authors hypothesize that latent inhibition may be positive when combined with high intelligence and good working memory - the capacity to think about many things at once - but negative otherwise. Peterson states: "If you are open to new information, new ideas, you better be able to intelligently and carefully edit and choose. If you have 50 ideas, only two or three are likely to be good. You have to be able to discriminate or you'll get swamped."
<being a skitzo is good
<t peaterson
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/10/031001061055.htm

 No.6194

>uses a measurement for how much of an upper middle class white man you can be.

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 No.6207

a big fat benzo buzz sounds good right about now.

 No.6232

Plenty of mental illnesses today used to be evolutional advantages back then.



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 No.6169[Reply]

Some people on the left (mostly Maoists and Hoxhaists) talk about "revisionism" a lot. They say the current government of the PRC is revisionist. They say the government of the USSR after Stalin's death was revisionist. But what actually is revisionism? Like, how was Khruschev's USSR materially different from Stalin's, and why should I care? Is revisionism just "anything I don't like" on steroids?tankieTankie
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 No.6494

>>6185
>>6186
Not him, but Stalin said that with the collectivization of agriculture socialism had been built in the USSR, and thus internal class contradictions had been overcome. He did not deny class struggle on a global scale.
I believe he talks about this in "Economic Problems Socialism in the USSR."

 No.6495

>>6209
this would fall under mao's "30%" of stalin's legacy which was incorrect. stalin correctly claimed to have achieved socialism in the ussr but mistakenly also held that this meant the end of internal class struggle, which proved not to be the case after his death when the class struggle played out all the way from khrushchov to gorbachov. revisionism isn't merely "bad marxism" but the manifestation of a class struggle between a proletarian and a bourgeois political line within a party.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso

 No.6547

>>6494
>>6495
Does anybody know in which text(s) Hoxha commented on this issue? Really curious how he interpreted this whole thing that may have differed from Mao.
>inb4 literally no different than Stalin
I find that doubtful as he often had plenty to contribute, especially in matters where Mao had a lot to say…

 No.6777

>Revisionism is the denial of the necessity for the proletariat to bring about the revolutionary overthrow of the bourgeoisie; it is the denial of the necessity for the proletariat to exercise all-round dictatorship over the bourgeoisie; it is the denial of the necessity of protracted class struggle throughout the entire period of socialist transformation of society.

https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/uk.hightide/red-star-mao.htmread_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book

 No.6778

>>6777
>Mao
I'm going to need a second opinion



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 No.6168[Reply]

What is the correct socialist analysis of the Inca Empire? Was it really a proto-socialist society, as some people claim? Or was it just Andean feudalism?tankieTankie

 No.6193

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Haven't read him myself, but Jose Carlos Mariategui is seemingly a corner-stone figure for South-American Communism and the had the first influential His-Mat. analysis of the Incan empire, his main work being this one:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/mariateg/works/7-interpretive-essays/index.htm

The works of Abdimael Guzman (Chairman Gonzallo) also speak on this but not as substantially (or so i've heard).
His work can be found here:
https://bannedthought.net/Peru/index.htm
https://the-red-flag.org/?s=Gonzalo

As for what I know, Incan political economy was feudal in it's societal relations (culturally, hierarchically and land-ownership) but communal in it's relations of production.
Don't take my word for it though, that's just what i've heard.sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso



 No.6110[Reply]

any other resources on Nutrition/Diet in the USSR to deboonk the Commie Starves meme apart from that one CIA Report? we could really use a more thorough list of sources on it.

 No.6277

>>6110
ask somebody who lived in the USSR what they ate. From what I've heard, Soviet citizens ate the traditional diet from whatever region they were from.

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 No.6639

Soviet nutrition was better than most of the west but was limited and involved a lot of creative uses for bread.

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 No.6072[Reply]

Hello all.

I want to create a sync channel for educational purpose with different playlist rotations so we can have people getting educated on leftist thought.

This thread I want to construct the best videos on educating people into the basics of socialism. So the basics of the means of production, the basics of property, and etc. I want it simple, easy to understand and yet thorough enough to explain to someone brand new to socialist thought where if they watch this playlist of videos. They can get a handle of what are the core principles of socialism. I also want to make sure these videos are strictly socialist. No social democratic bullshit please.

Please post your suggestions in the thread and I'll check the videos and we work on getting a nice clean playlist of videos. We can discuss videos if I feel it doesn't quite fit what we should build for this thread.

Please don't bring up communism, anarchism, and etc. This is all about the basics of socialism and getting people beyond social democrat thought.

Reason why I want to do this:

People aren't reading theory and books nowadays. It's a harsh reality and it's hard to make people pick up a book and read it. We leftists need to have a fucking reality check on this. We always want to force people to read theory so much and yet when we watch our opponents in other ideology. They are able to explain their theories and bullshit within a few videos and they get their followers locked in. We need to stop making excuses, gatekeeping and general bullshitting. We can do this. I also understand that we are also under attack via social media companies. There is a way to upload video files and such into playlists on cytube. I just haven't done it in a while but I'll be looking into that as well so we can make our own content without being tied to hosting on youtube and etc.

My first suggestion is this video. I like how it focuses on the main points of what socialism is. It touches briefly on the other flavors of socialist but doesn't go too fair into them but the best part is I like how it makes the statement at the end of the video that calling a political system socialism is just inaccurate because socialism is used to define an economic system.
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 No.6080

Video is by far the worst way to learn. You are wasting your time.

 No.6081

>>6080
I don't give a fuck. Wasting time on this is perfectly fine. If you don't wish to participate? Then don't.

Tell me why it is bad as something to give a light intro into socialism. Please note this playlist is going to be at LEAST 10-15 videos minimum before creating the channel.

 No.6086

>>6082
Thank you anon. These are great. I will add these into their own playlists onto the channel. Since these are actual economic courses

I will say though the Shaikh lectures are really really long. That doesn't seem beginner friendly for getting people into socialism. However, I'll figure out a way to integrate that playlist into something.people can watch on weeks we don't want to some heavy lecture watching. 90 minute average per video is a lot. Literally 2 days straight of content non stop. Could be more since I just ball parked the numbers. Let me know if you have sources on other platforms and such. I am willing to rip source videos and stuff from places as well.



 No.6066[Reply]

Does anyone have any recommendations for books or resources for studying the history and conditions of the English (or British, in the current sense) working class?

The two I know of rn is 'The Making of the British Working Class' by E.P. Thompson and 'Conditions of the Working Class in England' by Engels.
I've been told they are classic accounts but they unfortunately only cover the very early period of British capitalism and working class history.
If anyone has any good books and resources that cover past the period these two cover (so anything covering the 1830s and beyond, please post them here.snibeti_snabSnibeti Snab

 No.6067

Here's some I found myself

 No.6068

>>6066
>>6066
i found these on libgen

https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=975FA3CAD68E59B62B10F5F692ABCC16

meacham standish- A life apart: the English working class, 1890-1914
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=9B3D149753827A303724CD3B540E8140

Worth, Rachel- Clothing and landscape in Victorian England: working-class dress and rural life
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=62070C8CCAA36903CFF9995161EA2512


Working-Class Girls in Nineteenth-Century England: Life, Work, and SchoolingVolume:
Author(s):Meg Gomersall, Jo Campling
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 No.6212

>>6066
You should read Thompson anyway because it will set you up well for what is to come as well as introduce you gently to Marxist humanist historiography



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 No.6032[Reply]

Where do most communists stand on the being vs becoming vs nothingness metaphysical debate? This debate is as old as philosophy itself; does a left wing mindset require you to take a particular stance, or is it irrelevant?

 No.6034

Is ontological the study of becoming or being? Or both?

 No.6045

I would say from the perspective of Marx commies are basically forced to rest on the "becoming" camp.

 No.6059

Thanks to Marx's Hegelian lineage,you can certainly see a strong influence for the becoming side of things - but this seems like more of an accidental than a necessary relationship. It's very difficult for me to think of an argument about metaphysics that would change my politics, or visa-versa. (Everyone's favorite right-wing syphilitic crank, Nietzsche, was no less of a becoming enjoyer.)

There's a certain sense in which leftists need to believe that things in the social world are capable of change, rather than simply given in their behavior through an unchanging nature. But that's pretty divorced from metaphysics - certainly it's nothing that someone with an eternalist outlook on the metaphysics of time couldn't translate to their own language (that is, that different parts of the eternal 4D universe look different along the time axis just like they look different along some spatial axis.)



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 No.6029[Reply]

So is the universe flat or is it curved? I haven't had the change to read the whole paper, yet, but, from what I understand from the paper and what the lovely people at PBS explained to me is, apparently physicists at Cornell University observed a cluster galaxies under extreme gravitation forces causing gravitational lensing. Now this is nothing spectacular as far as what observation about the universe has lead us to, but, what is interesting is that when the amplitude of light passing over these distortions in gravity are examined more closely, apparently, they fall way out of line with currently, standard, models involving the geometry of the universe which uses triangulation of areas in the Microwave Background Image and Early Super Nova in the Early universe to summize that the universe is flat. This totally flies in the face of our current understanding of the universe and could have damning implications for modern Cosmology; The universe wont expand for ever? What is driving expansion then? Our models for Dark Energy break down. I am literally freaking the fuck out over this right now. HELP ME EDU!

 No.6030

>>6029
Chance*** Fuck.



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 No.5982[Reply]

Hello edu, I am a curious yet ADD retard that finds it difficult to grasp anything through reading and I offer you my services;
See some people find it helpful to improve their understanding of a topic by explaining it to someone else. If you are one of these people please feel free to try and explain what it is you are working on and I will try my best to grasp what you are saying though active listening.Win win
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 No.6556

>>6554
yeah, I hadn't noticed that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmX2s3pe_qk
this is a good talk on the subject.

"the interpreter pattern is the only useful patter in the GoF book" lmao.

 No.6557

>>6556
> "the interpreter pattern is the only useful patter in the GoF book" lmao.
That's a bit unfair, the visitor pattern is pretty cool and so are the strategy and state patterns.

 No.6558

>>6557
I dislike OOP tbh. I don't use it that much, nor do I do fancy enough shit to merit it.

This Free stuff is nice if your language has a nice type system.

 No.6561

>>6558
Give Smalltalk a try, it will change your views on OOP for sure: https://mooc.pharo.org/

 No.6571

>>6555
This would be part of a larger program.
>>6561
Hmmm I'll look into it. I've never heard anyone use smalltalk for modern shit.



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