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 No.8813[Reply]

Is their any material based on actual science that covers the topic of dysgenics, either in a way that is supportive of criticizing the concept. I want to know but no one but /pol/ talks about this really interesting concept. For those who don't know what the concept is, it is a theory that in modern society their is an evolutionary selection pressure that results in humans with lower intelligence having more kids on average then those with higher intelligence. According to this theory this results in a future humanity that is less intelligent (on average) and will eventually become to dumb to invent and maintain technology. This will cause an unavoidable collapse in industrial civilization resulting in a return to the per-modern world. This proposition is very anti-political because under a capitalist, socialist, or some other mode of production, this collapse is still inevitable. Especially if society is under other existential threats such as global warming, pollution, peak oil, or total war between powerful states. In this light dysgenics is the ultimate blackpill.
Anyways I'm looking for literature about this topic that doesn't have dumb rants about "Muh n*ggers."

 No.8816

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>>8813
Intelligence tests indicate that average population intelligence might have increased over the last century.
These tests are very flawed and should not be taken as scientific evidence, but it might be good enough for trend observations. The assumed explanation for this rise is better nutrition and more intellectually stimulating environments.

Intelligence is not self defeating from an evolutionary perspective. Stephen Hawkins for example, was a very intelligent physicist, but he couldn't have survived in any other period of history, because it took a lot of technology to keep him going, proving that intelligent people create a world that benefits the survival of intelligent people.

Capitalism is probably trying to commodify the general intellect, (humanities collective knowledge and technical know how) and that could fracture the knowledge base and cause a decline in the technological level. There might be a counteracting force, if capitalist governments become too tyrannical with persecuting bogus thought crimes like "intellectual property" they will undermine their power and influence by hampering their technical base that is the foundation of projecting influence. So that free and open knowledge system always win over closed ones.

About the biological factors, there are statistical factors at play. If you have a large population size, your chances of having a lot of intelligent people rises as well. Increasing the population size is a more effective way of increasing the absolute number of intelligent people than any kind of eugenics program, where you kill off or sterilize un-inteligent people. What counts for technological progress is the absolute number of intelligent people working towards advancing the means of production , not the ratio of intelligent people in the population.

Eugenics is a dumb idea because, if you propose weeding out the "low quality people" it's in the interest of everybody to kill you off preemptively, because you are telling everybody that you are a potential risk to their survival or evolutionary success. Nobody will believe any test scores you come up with and instead attribute a bad result to malicious intentions or incompetence on your part. Most people will agree to kill off the guy who might be questioning their right to live or have kids. Don't be that guy.

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 No.8818

>>8816
>Intelligence tests indicate that average population intelligence might have increased over the last century.
this is because of environmental factors which doesn't disprove a reduction of human genetic quality
>If you have a large population size, your chances of having a lot of intelligent people rises as well.
Larger societies also need more engineers, doctors, bureaucrats, teachers, planners and highly specialized industrial workers, in fact large societies have much higher amounts of division and specialization of labor, which require more and more education to train.
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Eugenics is a dumb idea because, if you propose weeding out the "low quality people" it's in the interest of everybody to kill you off preemptively, because you are telling everybody that you are a potential risk to their survival or evolutionary success. Nobody will believe any test scores you come up with and instead attribute a bad result to malicious intentions or incompetence on your part. Most people will agree to kill off the guy who might be questioning their right to live or have kids. Don't be that guy.
Thats the thing, their really isn't a solution to this crisis, just a slow unavoidable slip to doom.



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 No.8787[Reply]

Please recommend me some reading to better understand the direction our culture is going, and bonus point if it analyzes addiction/obsession to social media

 No.8788

Well first of all there's Society of the Spectacle which you should read if you haven't. You also might want to look into the Frankfurt School in general for this kind of topic, although it's somewhat dated at this point. For instance there's various essays on the culture industry.

For something contemporary there's the recent book by Hans-Georg Moeller You and Your Profile which is about how your identity is shaped by creating images of yourself for consumption by other social media users.

For something more controversial and meme core I know Peter Coffin wrote a book on this subject: Custom Reality and You.

 No.8792

Read Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products, it will tell you everything you need to know.

 No.8801

Literally read any internal study done by Facebook, they know they're ruining everyone and simply do not care because it gives them profits.



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 No.8753[Reply]

Thread to discuss the most relevant theory in modern post-colonial/imperialism studies imo, its shortcomings, insights and its intellectual fathers like Wallerstein and explicitly marxist thinkers like Amin and Arrighi. Also to drop pdfs and epups of relevant works. Dependency theory literature is also welcomed

 No.8756

All 4 Volumes of Wallersteins: The Modern World System



 No.5406[Reply]

I want to get into easter/soviet marxism

What authors should I read?
Why is eastern marxism so obscure for us?
What are some ideas developed by eastern marxist thinkers I should know of?
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>>5409
Read Vyshinsky instead.
https://archive.org/details/lawofthesovietst008593mbplenin_capLenin Cap

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 No.6830

>>5406
>Obscure
I mean just read Lenin and Stalin's main works as well as Mao and his contemporaries.

As for why some of it is obscure? Because there are pragmatic policies that ignore moralistic outcries that Western Liberals don't like and do their best to suppress or attack if they cannot suppress it.

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 No.8730

>>5413
Marx himself intended to write on the history of law as part of his critique of political economy.



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 No.5912[Reply]

Hello and welcome comrades! This is the new /read/ thread.

>What is /read/?

</read/ is a collective of marxist reading groups, hailing from /edu/ and /GET/. We are split into various different reading groups, each with different interests, goals and schedules.

We're making a new thread to let everyone know that /read/ is still very much alive. In fact, we're inviting everyone to join in for our new batch of readings! Our groups are done with previous readings, so this is the perfect time for new members to join up!

As of today, May 30th 2021, the /sniff/ group is done reading volume 1 of Capital. We have a new batch of readings planned (more on that in the post below), and all are invited to join. Meanwhile, the /tilmeeth/ group is gearing up to read Capital, so if anyone missed out on the first round, this is your chance.

As always, our website, containing our library and reading lists is: https://leftyread.neocities.org
And our Matrix Community, where all discussion happens, can be found at: https://matrix.to/#/+leftyread:matrix.org
Old thread: >>3624

Come /read/ with us!read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book
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 No.7833

We just finished reading "'Left-wing' Communism: An Infantile Disorder by Lenin, which thus concludes our initial readings of Lenin! Next up we'll be doing Capital v2.

 No.8710

hey, i'm sorry to be asking such a dumb question, but what do reading groups do? Do you all pick up a book and set 5 year plans to finish it and then move on to different books? Or do you exchange books but still require of members to read them? I imagine it helps a lot with finishing to read them and after that discussing the helps better understand them, yes?

 No.8712

>>8710
>Do you all pick up a book and set 5 year plans to finish it and then move on to different books?
That's about right. Reading groups are quite flexible and you could organize one in a myriad of ways, but our method thus far has been: 1) agree collectively on a little reading list, about a subject or author we are interested in 2) start reading 3) meet up regularly (weekly, biweekly) to discuss the previously agreed upon readings 4) at each meeting, schedule the next meeting and decide what must be read until then. This usually results in weekly meetings, in which we talk for a couple of hours about our weekly reading of 30 to 100 pages, depending on the book. A book like Capital requires we take a slower pace, of 30-40 pages a week, but something like Lenin's State and Revolution can be done in a single week if everyone has the time/availability.

>I imagine it helps a lot with finishing to read them and after that discussing the helps better understand them, yes?

That is true. Not only is it helpful in the sense of ensuring everyone is on the same page, and that each is helping each other understand the book better, but it's also good to just come up with critiques and formulate ideas as a group. Friendly debates and so on are quite good to have.

 No.8713

>>8710
>Do you all pick up a book and set 5 year plans to finish it
kek

 No.8724

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>>8710
>Do you all pick up a book and set 5 year plans to finish it



 No.8714[Reply]

How can I understand this shit field? I am in college scramming for my thermodynamics 1 exam and I hardly get the essence of this subject. I just study to pass the exam. But that's such a waste, because I want to really get it, understand this important field. My teacher doesn't care about so I asking /edu/.

 No.8715

Are there any pretty girls in your physics classes??

 No.8716

Also here you go, I think this should help
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF6C6594F42ECEE0D

 No.8720

>>8715
*bonk*



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 No.7017[Reply]

What did Marx think about democratic Athens?
What did Marx say about George Washington?
What about Lutheranism?
What about primitive communism?

Everyone from Oxford to Britannica has their own reference works on Marx's own ideas, but which one is the most responsive and comprehensive for actual Marxists to use? Is Hal Draper usable as an encyclopedia? If not, then who?

I want to understand his practical takes as well as his abstract ideas. Book worship is surely an evil to be avoided, but total ignorance of the man's own perspectives is one I hold far worse.

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 No.7019

>>7018
I remember an anon made a post a while back about mass-searching the MECW for keywords. But it seems to me that this overlooks the benefits a topical index would provide. At any rate I don't know how to grep search or whatever it would entail, but I can fool with it. Thanks

 No.8718

>>7017
>topical index
we could make one



 No.6891[Reply]

Does anyone have a ProQuest account? I need this full article which effectively refutes an anti-communist snitch memoir written during the McCarthyism era by an ex-communist rat.

Basically, the author of this piece (it's her senior thesis, I believe) argues that the rat lied several times in her autobiography concerning her motives for joining and then ditching and snitching on the CPUSA. It's a very good smackdown so naturally I would like to read the full thing.

https://www.proquest.com/openview/8850071a29d27e97e6b480971ad41e26/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=18750&diss=y

 No.8598

Anyone?

 No.8600

Can you just look up the title of the thesis and author on scihub or a torrent site?

 No.8602

ProQuest is terrible. academic institutions are just a racket to gatekeep information

 No.8611

>>8600
Not sure.

 No.8708

>>8600
I did look it up and found nothing.



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 No.5843[Reply]

Most Marxists, for obvious reasons, are primarily concerned with the analysis of the capitalist mode of production, this causes many marxists (including myself) to have a poor or just a very basic understanding of pre-capitalist modes of production.
An in-depth understanding of these modes of production is, however, essential for reasonable historical materialist analysis.
Post videos, books, articles and so on for education on this topic.
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 No.5846

this is a great book and really explains Marxist themes lucidly.

Haven't been able to find a pdf though

 No.5857

>>5846
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=CB6553D818BE1F07A534A3A88E8B0DBA

Here is the link. Dude, just uhh, use libgen.is — at least for the anglo literature it is vast and very accomodating. I use other sources for literature in my language, but libgen should suffice for most things.

Also archive.org is great for searching things from last past century, old books et cettera.tankieTankie

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 No.5948

I find it interesting that ancient societies ran on debt allocation, so much so that debt abolition was an actually platform politicians would campaign on.

 No.8700

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1857/precapitalist/index.htm
also the very idea of mode of production is prolly just unique to capitalism



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 No.4631[Reply]

Everyone tells me Penguin Classic's translation of all of Capital is the best around but what about the rest?

- Paris Manuscripts
- Germany Ideology
- Civil war in France
- Feuerbach
- Gotha
- Grundrisse
- Wage labor and capital
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 No.4644

>>4631
Just learn German

 No.4647

>>4644
Not an anglo so learning german would be pretty hard for me.

 No.4649

>>4647
>Not an anglo
what's your native language then, anon? maybe if you tell us that we can give you recs based on your native lang and then you can look for those editions. I always prefer to read in my native language, even if I'm pretty confident in my english.

 No.4651

>>4649
Spanish.

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