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 No.5596[Reply]

I've made a backup of the bunkerchan.net /edu/ and /tech/ boards, since a couple of users mentioned that there were still some useful semi-active threads.
This is a direct offline mirror, those two boards should work properly. To enter, open /edu/index.html or /tech/index.html.
https://anonfiles.com/f4zd85u7u9/bunkerchan-edutech-archive_zip (about 400MB)

Let me know if there are any issues.gentooGentoo

 No.5723

Nice, bumping.

 No.5781

>>5596
Trying to download it but it keeps sending me to pop ups and downloads random shit

 No.5785

For real? I swear that site was fine last time I checked. Sorry.

 No.5786

>>5781
When I have JavaScript turned off, it didn't give any ad pop-ups but if I have JS enabled it did until I clicked again. That site used to be the go-to but now it's flooded with ads and google trackers.
Anyone know a better long-term upload site?



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 No.5588[Reply]

>muh fire
>muh artemis
>muh bow/harp
>muh death/play
>muh wisdom in ordinary things

>But he had himself withdrawn into the temple of Artemis in order to play knucklebones with the children; here, the Ephesians stood around him, and he said to them: “What are you gaping at, you scoundrels? Or is it not better to do this than to work with you on behalf of the πόλις (city)?”


 No.5581[Reply]

Most of the books I see about Pol Pot, Khmer Rouge and Kamdoji from those years portray these things as badly as possible, and compare Pol Pot himself to a mini Hitler, or worse. I would like to know if there is a book that justifies Pol Pot and speaks positively about him and the Khmer Rouge. Thank you in advance!anarcho-communismAnarcho-Communism
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 No.6111

>>6109
>abolished capitalist relations, commodities, money and value

 No.6112

>>6111
Retarded thing to do when your country is feudal.

 No.6114

>>5581
brief, 40 page article on the subject. It might not be entirely "positive" but I found it enlightening. Here's a snippet from the overview:
>We are out to overthrow "common knowledge" on this question. Unlike others who falsely claim they have no particular viewpoint from which they judge, our basic stand is explicit: as Mao said, "It's right to rebel against reaction." In other words, here our starting point is that the war waged by the three Indochinese peoples (Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos) against imperialism was just. No matter how critical our conclusions on the Pol Pot regime, the fact is that they had to deal with the horror that the US created. If anyone should be on trial for genocide in Southeast Asia, it should be the US ruling class. The charges of genocide the rulers of the US want to press against former CPK leaders are an attempt to reverse right and wrong.

 No.6115

>>5581
Glad you're deciding to take the redpill on the Communist Party of Kampuchea . Linked is the most reliable and unbiased history book on Cambodia during the socialist period.>>5581

 No.6116

>>6114
>>6115
Can any of you find Hou Yuon's The Cambodian Peasants and Their Prospects for Modernization?



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 No.5558[Reply]

You people lied to me, I read Deleuze and the guy was a fucking materialist.

 No.5563

Care to elaborate?

 No.5586

who ever said deleuze wasn't a materialist. he's like the arch-materialist.

 No.5587

>>5586
He’s a spinozist.

 No.5595

>>5587
Isn't Spinoza a materialist too…?

 No.5598

>>5595
he’s a fake materialist



 No.5539[Reply]

Why isn't communism the same as liberalism? Why didn't Marx become a liberal while writing Capital? Before the critical turn of the enlightenment the purpose of most philosophy was grant intellectual legitimacy to dogmas, or pre-existing state of affairs or beliefs that are taken for granted. Classical political economists and those that came before them (Hobbes, the Physiocrats, others) were similarly uncritical; the categories of political economy were explained, but not criticized. Vulgar economists (most economists today) don't even bother with attempting to understand the categories or the social relations they're made up of, and spend their time building models of different elements of capitalist production for the purpose of making it more efficient. It's no coincidence that "economize" means "to make more efficient", that is the sole aim of vulgar economics.

Where does Marx depart? Marx takes the materialist analysis of the political economists, their categories and terms, and constructs from these building blocks an immanent critique of capitalist production. Capital isn't liberal because Marx takes the materialist analysis seriously, he criticizes without reservation the most basic elements of exchange and the religious affectation of participants in the exchange with its elements (read Marx on commodity fetishism). We can't seriously call Capital, which is the most thorough rupture with political economy ever written, an economics textbook.
>Check reply for more, you know who you are
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 No.5545

what capitalists are made of

 No.5678

The more I read Marx the more humanistic I see in his ideas. When I say humanistic I don't mean liberal philanthropic sense but in the communal way, the individual should be elevated by all, and by elevation of all individuals, we elevate the collective. It's a appropriation of the real meaning of individuality not mediated by capitalism, but by humanism, or communism in the Marxist sense.

 No.5681

No. Hegelianism and dialectics negates a log of the presuppositions of the philosophy of Locke. modern liberalism and neoconservatism don’t.

 No.5682

>>5678
Marx was a humanist just not a utilitarian humanist. “anti-humanism” is usually either peak intellectualist pettiness or just 14 year old atheists that don’t understand what humanism means

 No.5702

everything is liberalism



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 No.5530[Reply]

"EXPLAIN JUSTICE TO ME OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU! DON'T DUMB IT DOWN INTO SOME VAGUE SHIT! EXPLAIN JUSTICE TO ME RIGHT NOW OR I'LL LITERALLY FUCKING KILL YOu!"
- Plato, "Republic", 375 BC
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 No.5593

justice is the means by which transgressors are reintegrated into society. simple

 No.5605

Is Haz back?

 No.5700

Justice is a lofty word and abstraction.

 No.5701

>>5531
le funny utilitarian moment

 No.5704

He actually answers it though.



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 No.5521[Reply]

Hey Comrades! The ideas of Max Stirner (lived at the time of Marx) somehow appeal to me. As I understood he basically says that morality and religious and social norms are void (called them "spooks"). By freeing oneself of these concepts, one can follow one's own will. By cooperation and mutual interest one can then happily coexist and live with other individuals.
What are your thoughts on that?anarcho-nihilismAnarcho-Nihilism

 No.5522

You should probably ask >>>/dead/.

 No.5523

Cool thanks, didn't know this board exists.

 No.5524

>>5522
/edu/ isn't restricted to marxism only…



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 No.5506[Reply]

I'm looking for books on Middle Eastern politics and history. Give me some recommendations. Also, has anyone read this? Is it any good?

 No.5515

Orientalism by Edward Said is a must read. You don't have to aggree with everything he said, but you should still read it imo

 No.5568

If you're interested in Iran specifically, Between Two Revolutions is a good book written by a Marxist that presents the history of (mostly) 20th century Iran through that lens very well.

 No.5572

>>5568
> Between Two Revolutions
Thank you very much for the recommendation.
>>5506
I'd recommend "All the Shah's Men" by Kinzer on the topic of Iran. He has some other good books as well, such as "The Brothers" and "Poisoner-in-Chief".

 No.6791

>>5515
>>5568
>>5568
Hello everyone, OP here, I read all your books and they are very good. And I want to provide an update on picrel. I read it, and after reading a lot of different accounts on Lebanon and Hezbollah. I can say the book in picrel is accurate. The author isn't a Marxist, but is legitimate and gives a accurate understanding of the group and it's history. If anyone disagrees I would love to hear about it.



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 No.5485[Reply]

Is there such a thing yet? Philosophy about data itself, datamining, neural networks, massive surveillance, etc.
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 No.5491

Pretty weird because I was literally thinking the exact same thing this morning. You would think it’s pretty straight forward to make a dialectical analysis of the internet and its alienation and accumulation of data but it seems like no one has done it.

 No.5493

>>5491
more likely, academic philosophy (and science's philosphy) is way too obscure and not vulgarized at all, cause I would be surprised none of them thought about theorizing that shit

 No.5494

Baudrillard and Virilio

 No.5507

>>5485
philosophy of technology is your best bet. McLuhan, Packard, Mumford, Baudrillard

For specific current books on what you're talking about:
The age of surveillance capitalism
Surveillance Valley - The Secret Military History of the Internet

 No.5538

>>5507
I think OP is talking more about the internet as a culture and it’s movements. An explanation for the rise and fall of internet communities would be an interesting endeavor.



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 No.5471[Reply]

Hola /edu/!

Some leftypol regulars and I have had the idea to host a language-learning group for us all to learn together.

The language we are all interested in is Spanish, and we'll be using the Micheal Thomas course (>>1033) to learn it.

Here is the plan:

We each listen to one CD of Micheal Thomas every week.
Then on every Friday we discuss what we learned and practice it by trying to make new sentences with what we've learned as best we can.

Then, after we have completed the 'Foundations' part of said course we all switch to speaking Spanish only to keep practising what we've learned and to practice fluency.

This will all start this coming week.

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 No.5514

>>5513
Amazing thread, what is it doing on that site?

 No.5526

>>5512
Im >>5509. Id be super down to help anons learning spanish, if only to be someone you could have a conversation with. If there is a matrix server I could join or whatever Id be happy to

 No.5527

>>5526
It's in the OP comrade: https://matrix.to/#/!uDgkvHYaUmWfGUtETA:matrix.org?via=matrix.org
We would love to have you.

 No.5575

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Greeting from /ref/! Just wanted to stop by and ask how the learning is going. I am not able to join in sadly but I want to make sure it’s going good

 No.6451

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Is there a book for learning Spanish like pic related? It's entirely in latin, and starts with very simple sentences and pictures, and you end up reading poetry and weird myths in the original Latin.



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