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Is VEGANISM a good thing?

>A vegan diet is based on plants (such as vegetables, grains, nuts and fruits) and foods made from plants. Vegans do not eat foods that come from animals, including dairy products and eggs.


There is veganism for health reasons, for environmental reasons (meat production causes more carbon emissions than plants), and for ethical reasons (animal cruelty). IMO from a marxist perspective the environmental reasons are the most compelling since decarbonization will need to be planned and this probably will include a reduction in the production of animal products.

However veganism is also widely mocked and associated with liberal hipsters.

what is the proper materialist take on VEGANISM??
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>>20422
The simple fact is that if you want to protect civilization, you have to make it as efficient as possible. and the most efficient animals are herbivores. Civilization is already herbivore (agriculture) but we waste a significant ammount of plant matter farmign stupid ass meat which is an energy sink.

Veganism is necessary. More than half of the megafauna left on Earth (animals that weight more than 40 kg) are farm animals. That is insane. It destroys entire ecosystems and make us dependable on a few species of animals that are grown close to each other in horrible conditions that make pandemics more likely. Those pandemics can (AND WILL) decimate farm animal populations and create hunger.
We have been artifically selecting plants for thousands of years to have more proteins, be more energetic, have fat and more. We should seize that opportunity.

political veganism is reactionary
that said, there are many good reasons to move toward vegan industry, primarily climate ones and also shortening the working week

>>20413
After much consideration, my issue with ethical veganism other than my moral nihilism is that there really is no ethical consumption under capitalism, ethical veganism is lifestylism in a negative sense as opposed to lifestylism as actual anarcho-individualism (anarcho-individualists are not "lifestylists," lifestylism is a very ancom thing to do). "Voting with your wallet" is such a lolbertarian way of looking at things and changes absolutely nothing. I am not throwing shade at Animal Liberation Front. Quite the opposite, I throw shade at veganism, because veganism doesn't equal animal liberation and never did. At least ALF does something in order to liberate the animals, drinking a Starbucks coffee while eating a veggie burger in a first-world country won't stop the genocide of the animals or climate change, it's not gonna happen. Unabomber did more to stop climate change than any liberal vegan ever would, veganism is just slacktivism in disguise.

Now, regarding health benefits. There is a conflicting information about the health benefits of the vegan diet but I assume it's better than just eating junkfood and certainly won't hurt. I am concerned about its cost-effectiveness and dependence on the market compared to freeganism though. Freeganism is potentially less healthy than veganism but it gives you more financial autonomy and is cheap. It carries the anarchist principles really well.

>>22628 (me)
With that in mind, I'm not saying that state-enforced veganism is ineffective. But it's not gonna happen, it's just a wishful fantasy that some government will adopt such policies. Just like banning proprietary software is Stallman's wishful fantasy.



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Wassup. I really want to learn about the politics and geography about most of the countries of the world, but idk how to study them. I'm from SA. What I mean is, I want to be able to say when a country have a corrupt government, when it's on any crisis and I also want to understand maps and knowing the nature of the politicians in that country. For example, I couldn't explain to someone why the Afeghanistan is bad for living except because of the Taliban. Do you guys have some tips for me?

What is /leftypol/'s opinion



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Wassup. I really want to learn about the politics and geography about most of the countries of the world, but idk how to study them. I'm from SA. What I mean is, I want to be able to say when a country have a corrupt government, when it's on any crisis and I also want to understand maps and knowing the nature of the politicians in that country. For example, I couldn't explain to someone why the Afeghanistan is bad for living except because of the Taliban. Do you guys have some tips for me?

(lol sorry for the double post, i had some problems)



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Where can I learn about "post-colonial" history of African countries? Preferably something in depth about the economy and also preferably by someone who isn't a neoliberal mouthpiece. Perhaps a Marxist even. Do you have any literature/author recommendations?
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>>21561
yo sorry, been a while. so for personal reasons (logistical, not emotional) i havent made any progress on online ordering/online ebook question of whether the book i posted is available as either. There is another (i think) good book about somalia which is this
https://archive.org/details/socialistsomalia00sama i havent read it myself but its sighted by most indepth modern (recent) histories of somalia that ive read that are in english. the general problem with indepth somali social and economic history is that theres mostly jack and shit about it in english and theres somehow even less online in somali too. theres only *1* book i could find about the economy of somalia before Barre's "socialist" coup and its was made like 2021. ill send a link to it tommorow but ive gotta buy since its nearly out of stock

>>21940
Hey, nice and thanks for getting back to me. I will def give it a read when I'm done with some other books

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me again, ive bought the book i was reffering to before and jesus christ its big. the author goes into a lot of detail in colonial and post-colonial southern (italian) somalia from after ww2 and ends at the stalinist coup. i will warn that the author intends the book to be read by a somali/muslim so you may have to look up some shit about clans or somali history to get what hes talking about at parts and he also worked for the liberal democracy goverment, the socialist goverment and for the UN's """peace keeping""" tranistional goverement so you may want to be wary of this mfs political POV. he does use sources that havent been used before too, as much as i dislike the guy i still really recommomend the book
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Somalia-History-1941-1969-Mohamed-Trunji/dp/1912411032
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ca0T0NVRtI


>>22496
Damn boi, thanks again. I will give it a read when I'm done with my current reads.



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I’ve been exposed to way too much of this shit again lately on 4chan and I want to start a thread where we can start debunking common “race realist” talking points on things like intelligence, crime, athletic performance, or whatever.
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>>21554
he is a race realist in that he believes races are real, but he doesn't believe that there is a hierarchy of intelligence.

>>21607
Sounds pretty interesting what you are talking about. Can you list some litersture I can get into to get a better understanding of the subject?

>>21614
Paul sackett would be a good start.

>>21357
Not precisely related but look into "Empire of Normal" for how capitalism constructs and exploits the neurodivergent. It goes into detail on how Frances Galton and eugenics influenced psychiatry.

>>21606
>A much better and more radical recommendation would be 'understanding intelligence' by Richardson.
Great read. Thanks for the recommendation.



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Thread dedicated to debunking western propaganda and information relating to the NATO encirclement of Russia, Ukrainian government's mistreatment of ethnic Russian minorities and support of fascist militias to do its bidding. Criticism of Russia and its occupation is welcomed aswell.
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>>20580
this cunt concern trolls all the time about the "reliability" of obvious fucking things, such as Azov being a neonazi org. he also consistently claims that the hoholdomor was a thing, and a genocide, and claims that there is academic consensus on it, despite evidence to the contrary
for a while the "list of genocides" article had the UN definition of genocide as the list inclusion criteria. when it was pointed out this means the '31-33 famine shouldn't be in it they swiftly changed the list criteria to only require that scholars say it is a genocide
"Michael Z" also called for the deletion of the article on the Yaroslav Hunka affair >>20585

>>22394
/edu/ threads die way slower than leftypol so you might just want to repost that pdf here instead of linking it, since the link might be dead soon. I'll do it later if I feel less lazy

>https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/11/17/the-gambler/
>The Gambler
Article about Cirillo and who they are

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>>22394
>>22454
NTA but here



 

I want some books for learning about anti-essentialist thought, as well as spotting and refuting essentialist talking points and lines of reasoning. Even books about essentialism in general would be helpful.

Introduction to dialectical materialism. What is commonly known as essentialist is largely congruent, I think (it's been a long time), with what the autor calls "metaphysical". I wouldn't use that term for it, however I suppose it makes sense in context.





 

are there any books that explain why the non-western world (mainly africa) is in a less developed state? there is alot of talk about the great replacement theory. most western/white countries are turning more right wing primarly due to immigration. which obviously is a big issue. how can this be fixed?

Is there credence in less developed nations just being dumber? I just don't get it. Makes me feel bad tbh.

i'm bad at explaining my thoughts and am not an intellectual so question might be stupid.
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>>22402
The Wretched of the Earth by Frantz Fanon

>>22397
Imperialism in the 21st Century by John Smith

>>22397
Due to what Marxists call historical materialism and dialectical materialism these regions developed a certain way that is rooted in their material circumstances. Capitalism developed first in the West and drove an increase in the productive forces of the West. The West therefore experienced more technological advancement and economic output. Prior to that the West and Africa were similar in technological development. Capitalism eventually led to a push outwards for profit, i.e. they expanded to colonize. Mind you that these regions were not treated the same so they were not affected the same, but I digress. Through colonization they have built a position of power over colonized regions which past the formal end of colonization (1950s to 1980s) was of use to continue to subvert and control other nations for the same reasons as during colonialism; exploitation and profit. This act of imperialism keeps these nations less developed. As for why the level of development differs from nation to nation in these non-Wester regions, colonialism wasn't conducted the same way everywhere and past (the formal end of) colonialism they were not acted upon equally. How they are treated now is going to be a mix of what they can provide to be exploitedand the extent of power the West can exert given the current circumstances.

How the West Underdeveloped Africa is classic that you can start with.




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Thread on the Indian Peninsula and Surrounding Areas Closely Tied to the Country
To unite various Indian topics that cropped up: Post historical and modern geopolitical discussion, memes, photos and pdfs on the topic. Keep it civil and no bad faith dogma, spam or bait, keep that to /siberia/
Contribute to Leftypedia: https://leftypedia.org/wiki/India >>3780 thread
Articles on Britain, Pakistan and more needed.

Important Topics
>Pre-Colonial Indian History
Indian history that isn't just British colonialism. Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs warring over each other sounds way more exciting but you rarely hear anything about the era and the place. Recommend any books to easily get into the settings of the culture(s).

>Colonial India

History of British colonialism and it's exploitation and impact on the country(s). British humanitarian crimes such as the Black Hole of Calcutta are welcome to be posted.

>Modern India

Modern political, social and economic issues of India ranging from international conflict to internal turmoil. Environmental issues also welcome.
An Indian Dentist that does political writing on the state of the country and has soviet sympathies: http://bill-purkayastha.blogspot.com/
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>8653
In case Embed dies
>The C-Word – Episode 1 – 1991: The Silent Coup
By BlackFlag India
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T35PuzmTiYo

Recommendations on Post Independence economic history of India.

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India's military development is a strange one. They primarily orient themselves towards Russian technology, but in recent times have been trying to develop their own armaments with limited success. The Arjun tank being a clear example of this problem, with poor performance despite excessive spending on it.

Recently India has been courting the idea of production of Stryker 8x8 APCs with licensing and collaboration from the USA but why is unclear. The Stryker's performance is abysmal and its price-tag is staggering, and the USA's position towards India is not at its friendliest so this move is confusing. India has, in the past decades, done dealings with the US military, but this particular instance is strange. The stupidest part is that the Indian government announced its reasoning as a need to replace their BMP-2s… never mind that the BMP-2 is an IFV and significantly superior to the Stryker in every capacity by default. The decision is not finalized yet, especially as the more successful indigenous APC production in India is pushing back on this.

https://topwar.ru/244536-indija-vedet-peregovory-s-ssha-o-zakupke-i-sovmestnom-proizvodstve-bronetransporterov-stryker-8x8.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20240617104119/https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/how-american-stryker-tanks-that-india-is-evaluating-could-be-a-game-changer-for-the-army-13783203.html
https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2023/11/11/indian-afv-production-could-be-derailed-by-the-us-indian-stryker/

>>7482
So, how is the PPW going?




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How does capitalism, and its most retrograde right wing layers, even keep the idea about race in the public discourse to begin with? I don't think "race" is even really an apolitical and scientific concept to begin with, but if we take science as mediated through the superstructure, then something like race may be naturalised and justified through "genetics" and ancestry/genealogy databases.
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>>15829
Racism is an extension of nationalism. Think of it as a biological nationalism. It's about trying to find a common biological descent that the majority of the population of a nation have (or at least come up with one), and using that to determine who's an outsider. People ultimately believe in it, because it can raise their social standing and get them favors from the "biological majority" bourgeoisie and also because it just ends up becoming a powerful ideology.
>>15840
Did he actually think there was a master race on Mars and Venus?

>>22364
>Racism is an extension of nationalism. Think of it as a biological nationalism.
There is no point in conceiving of it in that manner. You are explaining one construct with another construct when their actual origins and development are distinct.

>It's about trying to find a common biological descent that the majority of the population of a nation have

You operate under the naive assumption that races were laid out based on genuine scientific inquiry. Race came about to justify the exploitation of colonized people and the categorization of these races were merely due to historic and economic happenstance. If races had been set based on common biological descent then people would have concluded there is only the human race, unless you were an American race scientist who believed in Polygenism. Europeans believed in Monogenism and still distinguished by more than on race.

>People ultimately believe in it, because it can raise their social standing and get them favors from the "biological majority" bourgeoisie

You virtually don't benefit at all from being a part of a category that everyone else is a part of. People in Western Europe believed in the existence of the white race and all of them were a part of it. They don't gain anything from being a part of a group everyone in their society is a part of and they also didn't gain favors from the "biological majority bourgeoisie" (?) from that. The point of these constructs was to justify what they did to people in the colonies.

>and also because it just ends up becoming a powerful ideology.

People have no way of knowing that beforehand and that's just a claim made in hindsight.

Race is the kind of thing where the more you promote it at an institutional level, the more it can reinforce itself. Like with science, if you do studies where you sort people into race categories, any differences you find are going to be put in terms of those race categories (as opposed to things like income level or something). The more you do that, the more ingrained that category becomes in the institution. Another big factor is just lack of social mobility. People generally are in the same stratum as their parents, and if you have generational poverty and a group that's intentionally ghettoized with zoning and home loan policies, then it's going to contribute to a difference in material circumstances that's reflected in culture and socioeconomic status that can be lazily interpreted as race differences.

>>22386
I'm not saying it's done in good faith. It's obviously a vulgar form of "science" that comes out of the construct of nationalism. Not all nationalists are racists, either, of course. But racist nationalists can become more popular at certain times. Long-term institutional ingraining of these ideas is definitely a factor as well.

>>15829
Like the church need the devil to reconcily the existence of evil with the idea of an omnipotent and ontologically good deity, capitalism need an essentialist classification of people to justify the misery and brutal exploitation of some.



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