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I convinced a quite a big amount of Muslim friends and even Elder Muslim folks in my community that Capitalism is Haram with one simple argument: Usury is a sin under the the rule of "Riba" being Haram, literally meaning "infinite" or "excess" in Arabic, due to financial exploitation and taking advantage of the person.

Simple

>Infinite growth is a sin requires financial exploitation, and making money off of being idle

>Capitalism's main ethos is infinite profit extraction
>They connect the dots

This opens them up to other arguments like "Infinite growth is impossible on a planet with finite resources" and other things like excess, indulgence and things Capitalists encourage like gambling being a sin (Prediction markets are awful)

I then explain it's like pork, you can eat pork or drink alcohol if you need to if there is nothing else to eat or you need to numb pain under the Islamic law of Rukhsah (Exemptions out of health or other necessities) and we are forced to participate in it order to survive

This easily convinces a lot of Muslims, even ones I meet in the global south who are otherwise very conservative and even if I can't make them fully woke or whatever it's good to have people wake up to some injustice at least. Class interests come first

The main thing I'm asking is if anyone knows any similar works on Socialism from an Islamic perspective using this same logic or at least pre-modern Islamic works that meet the base principles of socialism and wants to discuss this further
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the key is to not simply be against usury, but also against profit, rent, and wages. Communism seeks to abolish the wages system. profit, interest, rent, and wages are all part of the system of exploitation.

>>25821
depends on the kind of education

>>25823
Education in general

>>25821
Western style higher education, especially STEM fields, embody the epistemology and ideology of secularism and capitalism. You'll notice that most chuds and neo stalinists are people from STEM backgrounds i.e. people who believe we can rationally predict and plan all human affairs with statistics, the scientific method etc.

>>25873
Secular here is relative.
They’re still motivated by some “higher power/higher calling”



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Choosing a language edition

I do not know why we do not have an active language learning thread, so here you go.
If you got other links you think are worthy of being on here, do mention them.

>Language learning communities

r/languagelearning
https://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/

Language learner's forum
https://forum.language-learners.org/

Linguaholic's forum
https://linguaholic.com/

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>>25414
without my precious mercator projection I can't tell what the green country in west asia is.

>>25854
Romania and Transnistria

Sorry, Moldovia, not Transnistria

Test

>>25414
Harder than English. Chinese sentence structure lacks all those redundant Germanic particles like "the," "an," and "of."



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Is all radfem literature like this?

This shit is some of the most ludicrous, hyperbolic grievance mongering I have ever read. There's interesting shit floating around in here, but it is drifting in a sea of "every man is a wife-beating rapist who caused all the world's problems." Even though the book is directly comparing Zionism and feminism and seems to advocate for a lady Israel, it's mostly just couched in whining about men. Dworkin doesn't even have the fucking stones to be a strong Zionist. She's one of these wishy-washy Zionists who thinks that Zionists and Palestinians can co-exist, and maybe one day Israeli and Palestinian women can come together and unite against their REAL enemy: men! (lol) (lmao)
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>>25818
>Reducing Dworkin to "hyperbolic grievance mongering" however is nothing more than an undiluted expression of utter misogyny
The only way you could even begin to believe anything Dworkin wrote is if you believe that women are innocent, hapless, childlike creatures who are entirely incapable of controlling any aspect of their own lives by their own power and whose natural predisposition is to completely submit and grovel before men if they show even the slightest sign of dominance and are not entirely holding themselves back.

I know Dworkinites will deny up and down that she said that all heterosexual sex is rape, but that is simply the natural conclusion of her beliefs. If you define sex partially coerced through massive power imbalance, and also see men strong, dominant and violent while women are feeble, meek, cringing and more or less in a state of perpetual childhood, then you could only conclude that these two groups is a form of rape in the same way that an adult having sex with a child is always a form of rape.

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>>25834
Not what was said, nor an argument. Modern ideology is liberal garbage.

>>25818
>I read Dworkin's account of her relationship with Israel as a thinly veiled analogy to her growing disillusionment with the women's liberation movement.
The very term "women's liberation movement" in this time-period and in a Western context (that she is almost exclusively referring to) is so retarded as to be fucking comedic, if not for the fact that there are stupid entitled burger-women and men that actually subscribe to this ideological bullshit.
>"women's Israel"
<Shilling for nationalist-ethno-state but for a specific sex

>she gives a literary expression to the mass suffering of women as a class

Women are not a separate class, but an identity. Take off that Soviet flag, you bring shame to Marxism-Leninism.
>the barely repressed need for their collective vengeance.
What need? Do you even know what 'need' means? Vengeance on whom?
>nothing more than an undiluted expression of utter misogyny
No, it is dismissing pseudo-intellectual projection of a hateful spinster and not giving the long-winded rubbish more time than it deserves. Calling a cunt out for being a cunt is not misogyny you liberal.
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>>25742
The problem with Dworkin isn't that she's wrong but that's she's trivial. Marriage and prostitution are both paid rape. Who cares?

>>25843
Having read some Dworkin, I don't know if she ever directly said that because it seems like she never directly says anything ever. All Dworkin does is complain about men, and all positions she is said to hold seems to be more inferred from the exact way that she is complaining about men in any given work rather than directly stated.

>>25742
>this land was promised to women 3000 years ago, we must eradicate all the men here



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what was the name of that pre-WW2 German author that wrote how stereotypically non "aryan" germans were typically the most fanatical Nazis because they knew that they were on the fringe of being considered racially acceptable. Note how the entire high command of the nazi apparatus were a men who were mostly dark-haired, brown-eyed and somewhat short by german standards and who personally proved the lunacy of the aryan "race" as a concept by their mere existence
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>>25711
So more “Pink Swastika” nonsense, I am genuinely sick of the frequent comments that any outward display of violence or bigotry means someone is a self-hating closet case. Do people really think no straight man has ever been insecure about his masculinity? Is it really not obvious that queerphobia and strict adherence to traditional gender roles can be motivated by something other than self-hatred?

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>>25711
>Arthur Kronfeld
>German-Jewish psychiatrist
>Founded the The Institute for Sexual Science
>He claimed that he had scared the living daylights out of those nasty Nazis.
LOL

>>25784
Nazis were and continue to be gay and insecure

>>25848
Fascism and MLism are brothers jackass

>>25850
and other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself.



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Who did it? Soviets? Nazis?
Why were the polish officers killed? What was the motive for the massacre? Were they preparing a revolt?

Are the documents fake? Whose investigations are trustworthy?

Discuss
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>>10236
that quora thing is basically admitting it was done systematically against certain ethnicities, but waffling pathetically around it. again don’t know why you’d even be so surprised if this is the kind of stuff you think

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>>10240
>admitting it was done systematically against certain ethnicities
>waffling
<Let me take a point out of context to portray it as admission!
You argue in bad faith and use a false narrative to try and claim another false narrative, and cry about "le evul Stalin/Beria/tankeez" in the mean time. I'd suggest going to >>>/leftypol/ or better yet reddit, those liberal echo-chambers are more your speed.
>inb4 'N-no u echochamber'
People have discussed Katyn and the debate of it being the NKVD or not before, they also discussed Soviet deportations before, this is acceptable discourse. You are engaging in dishonest fallacies, putting a slight spin on old Cold War myths and exaggerations.

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https://espressostalinist.com/the-real-stalin-series/katyn/

This is a pretty good examination of it all, It's important to note though that most Communists are able to admit mistakes and excesses commited by Socialist nations. I don't doubt that when the Soviet Union started taking in Polish officers (Most of who fought in the Polish-Soviet war) they treated them pretty badly, but the idea they spread is that one executioner (Vasily Blokhin) executed tens of thousands of Poles by himself right next to Smolensk (A city of at least a hundred thousand and all with German guns and bullets) and nobody knew till the Nazis came by is just insane.

Relevant to the thread: Yuri Muhin's Катынская Подлость is a video version of his book Антироссийская Подлость: Расследование фальсификации катынского дела Польшей и Генеральной прокуратурой России с целью разжечь ненависть поляков к русским. — М.: Крымский мост-9Д, Форум, 2003. — 762 с.

https://www.veoh.com/watch/v16363590Z2fz4j8s

https://web.archive.org/web/20121030125555/http://www.erlib.com/Юрий_Мухин/Антироссийская_подлость/

The Book and film are a detailed, section by section dissection of Katyn myths and the context of Polish, German and Soviet actions before, during and after the war.

>Katyn Thread
Man I forgot how many effort posts I wrote on >>>/edu/ that are still up.



 

Long-hidden ruins of vast network of Maya cities could recast history
<In Guatemala, scientists map well-organized network of 417 cities dating to circa 1000 B.C.

>Beneath 1,350 square miles of dense jungle in northern Guatemala, scientists have discovered 417 cities that date back to circa 1000 B.C. and that are connected by nearly 110 miles of “superhighways” — a network of what researchers called “the first freeway system in the world.”


>Scientist say this extensive road-and-city network, along with sophisticated ceremonial complexes, hydraulic systems and agricultural infrastructure, suggests that the ancient Maya civilization, which stretched through what is now Central America, was far more advanced than previously thought.


>Mapping the area since 2015 using lidar technology — an advanced type of radar that reveals things hidden by dense vegetation and the tree canopy — researchers have found what they say is evidence of a well-organized economic, political and social system operating some two millennia ago.


>The discovery is sparking a rethinking of the accepted idea that the people of the mid- to late-Preclassic Maya civilization (1000 B.C. to A.D. 250) would have been only hunter-gatherers, “roving bands of nomads, planting corn,” says Richard Hansen, the lead author of a study about the finding that was published in January and an affiliate research professor of archaeology at the University of Idaho.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2023/05/20/mayan-civilization-pyramid-discoveries-guatemala/

Graham Hancock - absolved
His detractors - BTFO
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>>21945
>various other geologists insist they are a natural phenomena
<The mainstream assertion claims the opposite
No shit.

>>16648
>Graham Hancock - absolved
this does not absolve graham hancock's schizo thesis


Man this thread was interesting, it's a shame half the files are dead now.

>>24146
Professor Dave just name calls these guys for 2 hours.



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Please don't just tell me the economy is fake or that I only need to read Capital. I want to understand things as they happen (or before they happen) and not just scratch my chin going "hmm this reminds me of Marxism".

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I keep seeing takes on the internet that claim Science™ is Marxist. Is this as wrong as I think it is, and if it's not, why? I haven't read enough of my priors on dialectical materialism to pin down exactly where this goes wrong, but I've taken enough philosophy of science courses to say this is diamat woowoo scientism.

>"reality is marxist"
<spends entire time talking about hegel
why not say "reality is hegelian", then?

>>25810
They mention what Marx adds to it.

The subject and object are reversed in the formulation. If Marx accurately assesses reality, then Marxism is realistic; reality is not Marxist.

Reality is not Marxist, that's just a clever quip. The truth is Marxism strives to understand reality and has made theoretical developments with strong explanatory and predictive power. That's the real meaning of the phrase.

>>25809
>I haven't read enough of my priors on dialectical materialism
You're misusing "priors", this phrase doesn't make sense.



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Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.

>The Master said, “The gentleman understands what is moral. The small man understands what is profitable.”



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This guy Is called nigel askey, and is apparently a legitimate historian. He published a paper debunking TIK's claim that the K/D ratio of the soviets during WW was 1/1.6, instead claiming that the soviets lost over 4 more times as many combatants as the Germansduring WW2. Here is his paper. I'm not a qualified historian and I dont have access to acrhives or time to research, so I can't debunk him.

http://www.operationbarbarossa.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Essay-alt-view-TIK-presentation.pdf

I checked out his website and alsthough he does seem to be knowledgeable, he makes certain ridiculous claims that the "Vicors write history" in WW2, and the allies covered up how technologically and tactically inferior they were to the germans.
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Hello folks, I was hoping someone could give me some decent literature on the Babiy Yar massacre in English, I wish to send it to a friend for them to study. It's hard to find anything non-Russian on the subject that doesn't insert anti-communist drivel into it and unfortunately, unlike myself, she cannot read Russian. Help a comrade out.

>>12984
great post, anon

I have no idea about the exact numbers or ratio but the Russian meatgrinder tactic is world famous plus Stalin executed his top military leaders.

You can see this tactic in Ukraine today with a complete disregard for Russian losses.

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>>25698
You read none of this thread, did you?
>Stalin executed his top military leaders
Did you time travel here from 2012? What the fuck is this shite?

Between 1934 and 1939, the Red Army's command lost over than 56,000 people, 10,000 of them arrested. Another 14,000 were dismissed for drunkenness and 'moral degradation'; the rest were dismissed for other reasons – illness, disability, etc. In the same period, 6,600 of the officers previously dismissed were reinstated after further proceedings.

As for loss ratios see pic 1 rel

These sorts of brainless takes belong on /leftypol/, or ideally pol, and not /edu/. That being said, hopefully you learn a thing or two from this.

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>>25794
Actually here's some more on the "officers"
To understand the scale of the purge, it's worth recalling that in 1937, Marshal Kliment Voroshilov said that, “the army had a total of 206,000 persons in the command structure”. The total size of the Red Army in 1937 was 1.5 million men at the time. Admittedly, poor training of the commanders of the Red Army was a problem in the 30s, but not one caused by repression but rather the rapid increase of men in the armed force. Already in 1939 the army had grown to 3.2 million men, and by January 1941 – to 4.2 million. By the beginning of the war the command staff amounted to nearly 440,000 officers and staff but training of officers is longer than of ordinary soldiers and thus it was out of proportion. The country was preparing for war, the army was growing, undergoing rearmament, and the training of officers came too late.
29% of Soviet military personnel had a higher education before the repressions. After them, the number became 38%. By 1941, the number had risen to 52%. Note that for the decade before the repressions, the number had remained stagnant at around 20-30%.

http://cas1961.livejournal.com/1204240.html

>''"Communism under Stalin has produced the most valiant fighting army in Europe. Communism under Stalin has provided us with examples of patriotism equal to the finest annals of history. Communism under Stalin has won the applause and admiration of all the Western nations. Communism under Stalin has produced the best generals in this war…

Political purges? Of course. But it is now clear that the men who were shot down would have betrayed Russia to her German enemy."'' Opportunity to Win War in 1942; A SECOND FRONT IN EUROPE TO AID RUSSIA, By LORD BEAVERBROOK, Britain's Lease-Lend Coordinator in Washington, Delivered before the Bureau of Advertising of the American Newspaper Publishers Association, April 23, 1942



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