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I wrote a long rambling intro to this post which I don't think anyone wanted to read so I'll cut it short. As a third worlder (not a third worldist) who has recently become more acquainted with Marxism and economic history, I've become interested in questions that seem relevant to my immediate political reality such as
>whether it's possible for "developing" and "underdeveloped" countries to actually become "developed", and in what circumstances (I recognize the vagueness of these concepts)
>the extent to which the common problems of these countries (such as crime, disease, famine, lack of support and freedom) is tied to their place in the current world order, and the extent to which they can escape or limit these problems without some sort of major global rearrangement
>what the likely path for these countries is in the foreseeable future
And I'm interested in book recommendations that can help me think through these questions. The books don't need to directly tackle these questions, just be illuminating in their regard. I'd prefer stuff with a strong basis in history and data over JUST pure theory, though both are fine.
Of course any input that you want to give about these questions based on your own views and knowledge is also welcome, though needless to say even the best imageboard posts can only accomplish so much compared to a book.

Okay I'm a little disappointed that this didn't get a single reply lmao so maybe I should give some context. I basically suspect after reading more economic history that the transition from "developing" to "development" is in a sense an extraordinary event, as it's not enough for a country to prop up its industry, but it's necessary for it to harness lucky circumstances into a self-sustaining cycle that guarantees a reliable and perpetual post-industrial economy. Simple industrialization does not guarantee success because it's necessary for an economy to have a competitive advantage in a global market. My suspicion is that "good policy" can never suffice for this, which goes against the prevailing ideologies of development that get pushed in the Third World (especially Latin America and certain parts of Asia).
However, it should also be obvious that I am essentially talking out of my ass, and this is a half-baked theory based on reading basic history. This is why I'm looking for books that can help me develop and stress test this view, as I think it's essentially one of the central questions of politics in our part of the world.

>>22816
There are two main theories about the role of the borgeousie in pre-capitalist countries that were introduced to the capitalist world system.

The first one is used by Maoists, which utilizes concepts such as semi-feudalism and semi-colonialism, comprador and bureaucratic borgeousies.

The other is the Marxists Dependency Theory, developed by Latin American intellectuals in the latter half of the 20th century, such as Ruy Mauro Marini and Vânia Bambirra.

>>22816
>whether it's possible for "developing" and "underdeveloped" countries to actually become "developed", and in what circumstances (I recognize the vagueness of these concepts)
The first step is to question what we mean by "developed" and "underdeveloped." When we see a group of rural peasants in India living in thatched roof mud brick homes or nomads in the Sahara, the instant assumption that these people shouldn't be living this way. Now, one can live a happy and decent life as a nomadic pastoralist and many choose to do so. What we have here is a kind of value judgement about the lives of others who are branded 'poor' or 'backward' because they don't live urban lifestyles. Often, poverty is slapped onto groups of people who are not, by their own standards, poor. So where does this development discourse come from? Whose interests does it serve? And how is it used?

You will notice that development policies almost always involve some form of intervention by state authorities, UN agencies, or NGOs (the staff of which are almost all from the North American-European world) over the lives of "underdeveloped" people. Sometimes, this intervention is violent (e.g. US occupation of Afghanistan, Plan Colombia, Israeli displacement of Bedouins). Another feature is a tendency to discredit the political and social institutions of local communities in favor of top down solutions implemented by technocrats and a culture where liberal "modern" people must save local people from a series of "harmful cultural practices." Compare the way "female genital mutilation" is treated compared to the widespread practice of labiaplasty or transgender surgery in "developed" countries, which are not seen as "harmful cultural practices." Lastly, there's a whole phenomena of "third world" communities outright rejecting or avoiding development projects e.g. Afghan villagers refusing to participate in road building or rejecting schooling, North Sentinelese Islanders isolating themselves, Nomads who refuse to settle down, widespread rejection of vaccines.

>the extent to which the common problems of these countries (such as crime, disease, famine, lack of support and freedom) is tied to their place in the current world order, and the extent to which they can escape or limit these problems without some sort of major glob
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https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm
Engels’ On Authority is razor-sharp essay of pure scientific fact—1,386 words—that dismantles anarchist utopianism with upmost efficiency. It takes 5 minutes to read and leaves no room for debate: society itself, revolution, all basic social functions, etc., require some form of authority. This is not an opinion; it is observable fact.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/judgesabo-read-on-authority
Yet here we have some terminally online anarchist penning a 52,000-word monstrosity in response. That’s 37 times longer than Engels’ original piece. The anarchist spends 79 hours' worth of handwriting time (LMAO) crafting this screed. The sheer volume of this "refutation" is itself proof of its intellectual bankruptcy. The Ratio of Copium to Substance is vast, as with all anarchist refutation of socialist theory. Endless semantic quibbling, ("But what is authority, really?") endless circular logic, along with citing hundred other liberals culminates in a pathetic monument to ideological impotence—a 50,000-word confession that anarchism cannot refute Marxism on substance, so it must drown the debate in verbosity. Engels needed just 1,400 words to prove authority’s necessity because material reality speaks for itself—factories need managers, trains need schedules, and revolutions need discipline. The anarchist’s bloated treatise, by contrast, is what happens when unsounded petty-bourgeois individualism tries to deny the objective laws of social organization: an embarrassing tantrum disguised as scholarship, its very length an admission of defeat.
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>>24545
>scientific
*Wissenschaft. What's with you and length? And why do you care about the opinions of this random jackass?

Anyway, my problem with On Authority isn't the essay itself, but they way people use it as a weapon to say "nuh uh, you can't take issue with any form of authority, Engels said so!". Authority has its place, but there's nothing wrong with questioning specific instances of it. Pure anarchy is obviously unsustainable and frail, but what about the opposite problem? If everything works to the absolute will of one man, what happens if this man falters, or if his successor sucks? History shows that everything falls apart very quickly.

>>24949
> also current family model is totally normal

>>25015
>normal
idealism

>>25017
Okay totally not dysfunctional and damaging to the development of a person then.

>>25018
and what determines this?



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I'm new to continental philosophy, to me continental sound just aphorisms and sophistry, and nothing with actual substance to say, but I'm open minded and curious to know if I'm wrong or continental philosophy actually has value, so what some good introduction books to continental SLOPPA?
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So is just sophistry and aphorisms, not actual valuable insight? No good intro books about it?

Well, continental philosophy starts with German Idealism. But Adorno has some good introductory lectures, and Deleuze wrote a book on Kant.
https://monoskop.org/images/9/9c/Deleuze_Gilles_Kants_Critical_Philosophy_The_Doctrine_of_the_Faculties.pdf

>>22436
Philosophy has always been a diversion for the leisure class, but if you insist then start with le greeks because every westoid sloppa you're planning on reading read them first.

BUMPING

>>22446
>Philosophy has always been a diversion for the leisure class
>Implying there won't be leisures under communism
Marx would be very cross with you.

Anyway, people who say that philosophy doesn't matter don't fully understand what philosophy is. Logic, dialectics, materialism, etc. are all philosophical concepts. Science merely the analysis of these concepts in a real-world context.



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Wanted to make a theology general to discuss whatever questions or topics about religion people here may have. I thought about posting this in /siberia/ but I rather have a higher quality discussion tbh, and since /edu/ has much less traffic I think a thread about theology and religion in general would work better than a specific topic about particular denominations and such. So to start, something I had been wondering for a while, in buddhist theology when you die you reincarnate and depending on your karma you'll either be reborn into a human or an animal. So if you are reborn into an animal, after this life what would determine what you reincarnate into? Does buddhism have a way to judge animals? Do you reincarnate into a human by default after living as an animal and just keep the cycle going until you achieve enlightenment? If anyone knows I'd really appreciate it.
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Looking for good books on atheism

What's some good resources for getting into witchcraft, particularly Wicca, proper? Like I understand the basics sort of, but I'd like to develop an understanding of it that isn't just scrapped together from youtube videos.

>>9083
Alawites are "ghulat", ie extermists, meaning they worship ali as an aspect of god, making them technically heretical to all mainstream forms of shia islam.

>>9052
I will say one of the bad consequences of Marxism was that it separated socialism from spirituality and religion. Before Marx, most utopian socialist movements were religious or occult groups or freemason lodges. This separation made scientific socialism crude, mechanical, and soulless form of political scientism.

>>9106
>there's a good reason atheists tend to be angry about religion and all the barbarism it involves
That's because most of them are ironically fundmamentalists who portray religion in a specific way to alleviate themselves. Its similar to how the Germans pass the Holocaust guilt onto Nazis and immigrants. And although they champion criticism, they chimp out whenever you criticize them or imply their narratives are flawed. The myth of an essentially evil and barbaric religion, timeless and everywhere the same, is pure projection, a myth cooked up by the atheist. The reason most online atheists are angry about religion is because they are as bigoted as Jerry Falwell.

>>10499
I've never liked Dabashi. I don't think this book is a good work of theology and the whole post-colonial studies thing is a dead end.

>>20208
Many people who go under the traditionalist Catholic label aren’t really traditionalists and many are borderline heretics.



 

Where I am from, India, Schooling is done by the majority just because it helps them clear competitive examinations, which help them get into college (preferably a good one), which then helps them get a good job. And there's sometimes when the schools do not mainly focus on the competitive examinations, so the kids enroll themselves into coaching classes (and something called 'dummy' schools where you are going to school on paper, which is important to be eligible for college, it's illegal but the government is a cunt and majorly dosen't do nothin'), so, the coaching specialize in training kids to score good in these examinations.
I feel this is a rather vicious cycle which sidelines education and creates a whole society made to do a 9 to 5 job and calling it a luxury. I also think that studying something just for the sake of "cracking" (i fucking hate that word) a competive examination is the same as to betray the very subject. This majorly inhibits the intellectual growth of the society.
But I write this from a point of major privilege. I was raised between some of the brightest minds in the nation and completed my higher education from Oxford, Harvard and Cambridge, which makes me feel as if I am rather incompatible to speak on this matter as most of them people participating in this cycle come from middle or lower middle class background, who live in 2nd or 3rd Tier cities (80%+ population of the country).
What's the scene with your country?

I'm not so sure on cramming for exams being that bad

Sure if a person is actually interested in a topic, the more "humanistic" education seems superior, but if I'm talking to someone who had no real prior interest in the topic and just learnt it because they had to, the person who crammed for the exam tends to have a more solid grounding than the person who learned the topic in more liberal education

>>24966
It is part and parcel of the factory-ification of human thought. Less about education in the traditional sense, and all the more about rote inculcation for the sake of utility, as if mental processes are merely resources floating around in the minds of automatons.

education has been a commodity from day 1 of capitalism lol?

I think the real problem with education is that academic figures have a pathological aversion to blue collar skills

>>24966
I think that looking at the broader picture this is mostly an issue of intellectual monopoly rent/differential rent and labor monopolies. I think that siding with the proletariat means that information must be made free. So shit like the free software movement but also pirating sites like Sci-Hub and Annas-Archive. IMO this sort of stuff will help the global South and lower the rate of profit. Also it will help to proletarianize the middle-class which is way too fucking stubbornly sticking around under imperialism.



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What's the memo regarding this? I haven't looked deeply into the case of Tuchachevsky specifically but I've heard several things.

>Czech intel sending evidence to the USSR that Tuchachevsky was pro-German and made pro-German remarks in Prague.


>Tuchachevsky was framed by German intelligence under Reinhard Heydrich and Walter Schellenberg.


>Tuchachevsky was plotting a military coup against the Soviet leadership.


My questions are:

1. What was Tuchachevsky's relationship with the Trotskyites and their secret organizations that were exposed?

2. What was Tuchachevsky's relationship with Nazi Germany and Japan?

3. Is the modern Russian Federation sitting on critical files and documents which explain the Trials and subsequent purges of the Red Army and Soviet gov? If so why?
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>>18213
cringe

from what I remember of the threads about moscow trials, I had been convinced they were legit, and had all the necessary proofs through cross examination of testimonies and a few docs.


>>18207
>>18214
if the topic doesnt interest you just fuck off elsewhere maybe ? go touch grass for example

>>18213
its funny cuz every trot org will accuse slightly different leninists of the exact same shit ion even fw tukhachevsky like that Im just sick and tired of minor sectarian issues being treated seriously

>>18206
Interesting article here:

https://stalinistcivilization.substack.com/p/killing-tukhachevsky
>Tukhachevsky persists in the historical imagination as a deeply fascinating character. The “Red Napoleon” who never was, a brilliant military thinker whose life ended in abrupt fashion at the hands of the NKVD. The execution of Tukhachevsky and his allies has traditionally been characterized as a carefully orchestrated campaign of lethal repression carried out to ensure Stalin’s absolute power. This Cold War era narrative, which has largely been discredited with the opening of Soviet archives, has been used to show how Stalin’s ostensible megalomania sabotaged his own army’s prospects on the eve of war. On the other end, many contemporary Marxist-Leninists, adhering to the view of Stalin’s Soviet state, justify the execution of Tukhachevsky on the grounds that he was the ringleader of a fascist plot.

>In contrast to both of these theories, I draw on the work of various historians to argue that the execution of Tukhachevsky was the outcome of a factional power-struggle between two competing visions over the strategic direction of the Red Army. Tukhachevsky’s notorious personal power ambitions and his embittered military-strategic opposition to Stalin’s officer, Voroshilov, were perceived as a source of internal disunity capable of a producing a crisis that could potentially derail the war effort. Historian Vladmir Rogovin, in reference to the Stalin-era purges, stressed the importance of needing “to separate the fantastic and absurd charges from the evidence of the defendants' genuine anti-Stalinist activity” (Rogovin, 1998, p. 482). This requires going beyond Stalin’s psychology and the sensationalism of the Moscow Show Trials to find the power-struggle and oppositional politics at the heart of this matter.

>>18206
https://istmat.org/node/46724
Here it is necessary to return to Tukhachevsky.

The trial of the group of former senior Red Army commanders, unlike the trials of civilians, was, for obvious reasons, held behind closed doors. But some rather significant facts about the conspiratorial activities of Tukhachevsky, Yakir and other military men leaked into the testimony of the accused in other trials.

At the trial of the "right-Trotskyist bloc" held in March 1938, the defendant Krestinsky, former deputy people's commissar for foreign affairs, testified, for example, that back in 1933, during his meeting with Trotsky in the city of Meran, Trotsky suggested that he establish contact with Tukhachevsky, in whom he saw "an adventurist man, claiming to take the first place in the army, and who would probably go to great lengths."

From the testimony of the defendants at this trial it is clear that Tukhachevsky was hatching plans for a military coup.

Krestinsky said that when the destruction of underground organizations began in 1936, Tukhachevsky began to force the coup in every possible way.

"At the end of November 1936, at the VIII Extraordinary Congress of Soviets, Tukhachevsky had an excited, serious conversation with me. He said: failures have begun, and there is no reason to think that the matter will stop with the arrests that have been made… He drew conclusions: there is no point in waiting for intervention, we must act ourselves… Tukhachevsky spoke not only on his own behalf, but also on behalf of the counter-revolutionary military organization," Krestinsky testified in court.

In March 1937, a meeting was held at the apartment of the defendant Rosenholz, a member of the "Right-Trotskyist Center," in which Tukhachevsky and Krestinsky took part. At the meeting, the date for the speech was set - the second half of May (after Tukhachevsky's return from a trip to London).
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Former alt-right here, what books and content can I read up upon to educate myself besides the typical "Karl Marx" content?
The past few years have been really eye-opening to me especially as someone that has had to deal with the threat of homelessness, and the general prevalence that more vacant houses exist than homeless people. I'm conscious of the fact that the problem has inherently been the american system itself rather than any outside forces. We should care more about our own damn people than any random person from another nation. We have a massive military budget that could be used for better things.
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>>24899
>Caste: origin of our discontents
probably could find videos on it too if you are illiterate like me. I can't seem to read a book for the life of me.

Honestly the best place to start is to deprogram yourself from the Austrian School economic ideology by reading classical political economy and political theory, to know where these things came from. You'll notice the Nazi sector goes out of their way to obfuscate the old liberals, because the fascist authors selected for you were the "wave of the future" (and most of these were either faggots or German ideologues, who weren't writing about fascism so much as they were writing about their preferred faggotry). If you understand British liberalism and you understand American history (this is the harder one to deprogram because there's so many lies written by foreigners and modern Americans), you understand why socialism arose and what Marx was directly critiquing. Marx doesn't make sense unless you have some basic knowledge of the liberal ideas. You're not going to fully understand it if you just take Marx as a gospel writer. Conversely a lot of bad communists tell everyone "only read Marx" and then "only read our interpretations of Marx and nothing else", and this did a lot of damage to the education of so many people.

You don't really "break out" until you start applying this knowledge to the present world, and ask how what we have now is way different from what the liberals described, and then you look at the points where it did change and see that nearly everything written in the past 100 years has been a calculated system of lying. Most of the Nazi and alt-right faggotry? It's purely Public Relations, and Hitler was a test run of PR in Germany. It's really sad to see how easy it was to make the "Hitler phenomenon" happen. There isn't actually much to the man. He was there to give the dumb speeches and appeal to certain retards in Germany who liked that speaking style, while everyone else believed Hitler was a vehicle for their personal ambitions.

Generally histories of the Nazi regime are poorly written, Some are better than others, but all were written under a taboo against acknowledging too frankly what had happened, and there was a 15-year taboo against writing about Germany. After that, the revisionist historians did a lot of work and said it was "okay" to write about the Nazi period, and that had never been done in history writing before.

>>24905
>austrian school
>nazis
you are severely confused. the austrian school dont believe in exploitation, but the maximalism of shared value in the market by voluntary transaction (since trade can only occur where one value is preferred over another; this methodology is also true in marx's case, except that he takes the classical distinction between value in use and exchange to see how a value in use is traded for a value in exchange, rather than the austrian perspective that all values are use-values). the nazis believe in exploitation, but only where it concerns either "unearned income" or usury. i go over a criticism of the political economy of national socialism from a liberal perspective here:
>>>/leftypol/2391702
>>>/leftypol/2391805

>>24480
Read Paul Williams' "Operation Gladio: The Unholy Alliance between the Vatican, the CIA, and the Mafia" and then read Spencer Sunshine's "Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege". Also listen to The Empire Never Ended podcast. A lot of these fascist cults are literal CIA psyops. It's the same shit with ISIS as with crime in the ghettos and neonazi autistics online. The feds are incredibly uncreative in reusing the same basic Anglo-Catholic structure for Wicca, Satanism, Wahhabism and other fascist cults and criminal gangs. You have to understand that ideologies like Gangsterism and the Blackpill are tools of the capitalists to abuse the working class. I mean Andrew Tate is flat out an American asset, probably some kind of Epstein situation IMO.

Semi-relevant

https://maia.crimew.gay/posts/brg/

https://youtu.be/A7ha3rrO08I
https://youtu.be/47pDXptT7qE

Marxism is, first and foremost, about "abolishing the current state of things", which is to say, putting an end to Capitalism and the current world order. What this actually looks like is not a serious consideration of most Marxists; all that matters is that we currently live under capitalism, and that's a bad thing.

It took me a very long time to understand this, because it's something that Marxists tend to take for granted.



 

Post charts.
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>>23759
>Mao "reading books is bad for you" Tse Tsung should be read by every leftist

>another thread where people post their dogshit study guides where 90% of the books there are shit and full of ideology and the remaining 10% will be the ones no one bothers to read because they're "hard"

There was some chart used to go around some years ago recommending non-SJW more materialist feminist books, anybody got it and can post?

>>23759
>>23814
>>23816
>Mao should be obligatory for every left ideology
sounds about right, considering mao was a class collaborationist and communism is neither part of the left-right bourgeois divide nor an ideology




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I keep seeing this, so what it is and how to learn more about it. If it's even worth learning more about it
And btw if ur one of the "Marx spend his whole life….." Please fuck off

< Marxist monetary theory examines the role of money within capitalist economies, emphasizing that money is a social relationship that reflects the dynamics of production and class struggle. It critiques other monetary theories, such as Modern Monetary Theory (MMT), by arguing that simply manipulating money cannot resolve fundamental issues within capitalism.

sounds like something painfully simple, the kind of conclusion that you could get from reading just a bit of marx, that academics had to turn into a whole ass Theory(tm) just to be able to sell books like the grifters they are lmfao

< The collected papers of Costas Lapavitsas are a pathway to Marxist monetary theory, a field that continues to attract strong interest. The papers range far and wide, including markets and money, finance and the enterprise, power and money, the financialisation of

lol the more i read about it the more it seems i was right. nothing but college papers and shitty books about this crap. im even finding retardation about "determining value" that goes well beyond what the point of marx was. the absolute state

>>24952
I've seen you in a big number of threads and in all of them you just spew shit without responding to the question, if you don't respond to the question can you please for the love of god shut the fuck up?



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What are you favorite short not so well known theory essays, books or pamphlets. They can be from whoever just under 50 pages and non popular (aka don't recommend something like on authority)
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>>24935
This is exactly what I was searching for thank you

none, idc about easily digestible sloganeering bullshit

>>24937
Did I ever say easily digestible, and what do you mean slop?

Paper I enjoyed reading that applied concepts used to analyze island ecosystems but to patches of vegetation and green space and insects dwelling on these green islands in a concrete sea. Unsurprisingly they found that larger green spaces had greater species richness and diversity but some beetles like carabids and tenenbrionids were negatively correlated with forest cover and preferred open habitats. They did not find strong evidence that circularization is good for insects when urban planning but connectivity between different green spaces is.




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