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>>23375
>marxists leninists
<look inside
>mao

>>23758
Mao should be obligatory for every left ideology.

>>23759
>Mao "I never read Marx" Tse Tung should be read by every leftist

>>23759
>Mao "reading books is bad for you" Tse Tsung should be read by every leftist



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Im at crossroads between joining - or applying for- a catholic seminary, OR, becoming a (non-militant, but firmly (non?) believing Atheist) . It may sound extreme or stupid but consider this: IF God exists, he exists absolutely and all his attributes are true (remember im working within a catholic framework), this means hell is absolutely true, as is heaven; as I genuinely dislike sex, I won't get married ever–why not go full the mile and be a priest? or at least Brother, Canon,etc? seems rational.
OTOH if Atheism is true ,and I eventually find out in the future, I would-have wasted decades of my life, so better to take on the strongest atheist arguments now, see if I can tank them -or not- and go from there.
tl;dr: Give the best books about Atheism, from scientific POV such as Darwinism, Cosmology, geological time; or philosophy and social sciences (history of Ideas, archeology, sociology and studies on mental health, or, even brain scan\ neurology\ biological clinical science about belief)
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There are a lot of contradictions in christian doctrine (think cosmology and the existence of evil), that when properly addressed reduce it towards a semantic non-sequitur, i.e. saying material reality "is god" is meaningless. As i understand it though, catholicism and orthodoxy derive their legitimacy from their legacy as religious communities. Here i say their growing irrelevance and age-old use as a tool to justify the status quo undermines this legitimacy, the proof is in the pudding so to speak.

Also read >>23788 Feuerbach and Marx to get the best of philosophical atheism. tl;dr Religion reflects society and ubiquitous criticism of it back as a sedating spirituality https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1886/ludwig-feuerbach/index.htm

>>23793
>this is why every atheist is also a moralist
Good and evil are christian as well as specifically catholic categories, therefore the problem of evil is an internal logical contradiction endemic to their doctrine. Look at https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05649a.htm for a taste of the mental gymnastics involved.

>>23795
You're being obtuse here. Obviously in some form the categories of good and evil existed long before christianity, most notably in zartoshti and manicha.
>being present in christian doctrine means it can't be in anything else
<what no set theory does to a mf
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>>23797
>>23796
Christianity has become so genericised that criticising it means you criticise the fiber of moral conscience.
And yet, Christians complain about being hated by the world?

>(someone like adam green is guilty of this, while richard spencer seems to be becoming more nuanced)

Adam Green?
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My analysis of the imperial core.

- Capitalist
- Comprador (tokens, social justice inactivists, plastic shamans, …)
- Labor Aristocracy (WASPs)
- Declassed (survivors of cultural genocide and white women, incarcerated, disabled, queer, certain immigrants, etc…)
- Working Class (the inherited working class, Indigenous, Black, etc…)

In my opinion, much of Communism consists of the labor aristocracy arguing with the declassed and comprador classes.

Is there any theory which discusses the declassed groups in more detail?

In my opinion, the declassed are an extremely confusing mix of reactionary and revolutionary sentiment. They are born into indoctrination with capitalist sentiment but do not benefit from this. Essentially, they are just really confused. It's not about oppression Olympics, just whether you were likely to hear that the Black Panthers were based growing up.

The Black Panthers discussed the white declassed a little but failed to go into detail. What is important is that the leading fringe of the white declassed will always be the disabled, transsexuals, queers, women and so on.
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So, before the site went down there was a thread about serious, rigorous, economic books about socialism, and economics in general, so, not "pop economics", anyway, any good recommendation of serious economics books?

Check out Anwar Shaikh's book. It's a self-contained revival of classical economics based on sound systematic reasoning and actual empirical evidence.
He also has a lecture series on YouTube if you prefer that: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB1uqxcCESK6B1juh_wnKoxftZCcqA1go

>>22761
baby tier:
Marx: Wages Prices and Profit
Intermediate tier:
Capital volumes 1-3
advanced tier (requires linear algebra, probability, statistics and other math:
review: Mathematics for planning an economy by cibcom. Not specific to cybercom/planning but a good review of general math for political economy.
Farjoun and Machover – The Laws of Chaos
Sraffa – Production of Commodities by means of Commodities
Kalecki – Selected Essays on the Dynamics of the Capitalist Economy, 1933-1970,1971
Classical Econophysics by Allin Cottrell, Greg Michaelson, and Paul Cockshott

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Title. Answers to this question are also cool- have read Fanon in preparation for multiple essays on the topic and want to back it up with historical context. Obviously preferably dialectically materialist histories recently published. Africa preferred.

Bump with hypothesis: the violence of decolonization movements is directly proportional to the violence of the colonization they oppose.

Botswana would be interesting as a case study of a territory that peacefully transitioned from a British colony to a bourgeois liberal democracy with almost no political violence.



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General thread for all things related to the field of Ecology, a subfield of Biology that focuses on studying ecosystems. Not sure what else to stay to start the new thread other than may you have biodiverse and healthy ecosystem wherever you may stay at and here is this cool paper I read and a question:

>Cool Paper: Comparison of the Assemblages of Sap-Feeding Insects (Homoptera-Hemiptera) Inhabiting Two Structurally Different Salt Marsh Grasses in the Genus Spartina


Abstract: The vegetation of New Jersey tidal salt marshes is composed primarily of 2 grasses; Spartina patens , which occupies a narrow elevational zone of high marsh and Spartina alterniflora , an intertidal species. S. patens forms a dense, persistent, thatch, while S. alterniflora produces only a loose lattice of litter which rapidly decomposes.

A comparison between the guilds of sap-feeding insects (for the most part, Delphacidae, Cicadellidae, Issidae, and Miridae) inhabiting these grasses reveals S. patens housing a much more diverse assemblage of herbivores than S. alterniflora. S. alterniflora -inhabiting species are exclusively bi- or trivoltine, while on S. patens , sap-feeders possess a greater variety of life history types and show a specialized trend toward univoltinism.

Removal of only the dead thatch portion of S. patens results in reduced species diversity and evenness of sap-feeders on the living grass system. Trivoltine species, which normally inhabit the upper strata of S. patens , increase their populations on dethatched grass compared to the unaltered grass system.

Both empirical and experimental evidence suggests that the complex microstructure and thatch of S. patens provide a more heterogeneous and protective resource which supports a more diverse and specialized fauna of sap-feeders than S. alterniflora

>tldr: Salt marshes have low elevated sections that recieve more flooding dominated by S. alterniflora and high elevated sections dominated by S. patens. An important group of herbivores within the whole salt marsh are Sap feeding planthoppers and it turns out the areas of High marsh with dense stands of S. patens that form thatch having the greatest species richness of plant hoppers. Not only were there more species but many univoltine(only one generation at a specific time of year) specialists were restricted to this microhabitat. Another thing I enjoy about
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>>23343
i don't really know honestly, i would suspect that factors like wind, temperature, and most importantly sun exposure and species hame a major role in determining how and when leaves fall.
If you find some interesting research paper about this on google scholar i could unlock it for you if you want.


now for this thread, i'm looking forward to reading a couple of interesting books about socialist forestry and eco-industry in the soviet union.

Song of the Forest: Russian Forestry and Stalinist Environmentalism, 1905–1953
by Stephen Brain
https://it.annas-archive.org/md5/636d1721ef6ac85cc306be42af07c365


The Green Power of Socialism: Wood, Forest, and the Making of Soviet Industrially Embedded Ecology
by Elena Kochetkova
https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-monograph/5733/The-Green-Power-of-SocialismWood-Forest-and-the
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>>23368
very cool

>>20120
bro made a video on ruderals

>>23636
crime pays but botany doesn't makes great videos, his politics are really based too. also he's wearing a saint luigi mangione tshirt in that video lol

>>23637
He says it's not Luigi at 5:36.



 

My reading group at uni is reading Imperialism in the 21st Century by John Smith. Is my diagram that i quickly drew up a good supplement for it? Is constant capital attributed to GDP? I would assume when analyzing a commodity's exchange value it doesn't but when we look at the actual commodities, raw materials, etc that make up constant capital it would already have been factored into GDP. Therefor there would be no need to factor in constant capital again… Also I know how much shit flinging occurs on here about value created through labor in the west being "more productive," so more value is created than "unproductive third world labor" vs the inverse of that position; the length of the values in the diagram is arbitrary and constrained for space reasons, not because i think one way or another; but feel free to argue ig. I mean, has anyone read the polemics of Harvey and Smith? They are sassy as fuck and hilarious. Disappointing though to see Harvey to take such a vague and stance on modern imperialism, as well as the dissavowment of China by Smith because of alleged "Stalinism" (lol). I'll link the first video and four polemics they directed at eachother:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRvcGP1ALvI
https://mronline.org/2017/08/26/a-critique-of-david-harveys-analysis-of-imperialism/
https://roape.net/2018/01/10/david-harvey-denies-imperialism/
https://roape.net/2018/02/05/realities-ground-david-harvey-replies-john-smith/
https://roape.net/2018/03/19/imperialist-realities-vs-the-myths-of-david-harvey/

I also linked these for my reading group as additional data:

https://monthlyreview.org/2019/03/01/global-commodity-chains-and-the-new-imperialism/
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I do not care about the /leftypol/ mob, I love reading Thomas Piketty.
>waaaah but his solutions are too soft
Blah blah blah. The thick of his work, 99% of it, is just compiling and analyzing heaps of data, which he does exceptionally well.
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>>20158
I only read Capital in the 21st Century by him, and I don't think I even finished it because of the amount of repetition and redundancy.
Nonetheless, I agree he's an interesting and even useful writer. At the end of the day he's describing the gradual accumulation of wealth and growth of inequality through mainstream economics language, which might not be new to marxists but is an additional tool at the very least.
When talking to people who are not socialists about the world I often find myself referencing him, which is harder to do with marxian economists.

>>20158
>The thick of his work, 99% of it, is just compiling and analyzing heaps of data
wow sounds dumb

>>20232
Is that not exactly what empirical knowledge is?

I hate Piketty because he's french. You hate Picketty because he's liberal, redundant, etc. We are NOT the same

>>20232
A considerable amount of Marx's work was that too tho.
>>23442
Yeag



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This utopian garbage by P.F Skinner (Yes, THAT Skinner, for whom the Skinner Box is named after) has no right to be called a socialist novel and anyone who says it is is delusional.

For starters, the book is objectively terrible from a literary standpoint (like most Utopian novels honestly, it's a shit genre). Every chapter is dedicated to some aspect of the Walden Two "Utopia" and consists of Frazier, P.F Skinner's self insert character in the novel, explaining why Walden Two is so epic and based and wonderful in X aspect to bland and unoriginal to a small cast of forgettable characters visiting Walden Two for no reason other than to be ranted at by Frazier apparently.

Walden Two's "Utopia" is ran by a professional caste of Planners (unelected, naturally, not even held in check by a Party of any kind) set apart from the usual workers who run and plan everything and use Radical Behaviorism (essentially mind control through selected use of pleasure and pain) to alter the needs, wants, and desires of its citizens to conform better to society's needs. It's funny how the book is structured to make this seem like a good thing. Many chapters go to great lengths to explain why Walden Two is a haven for art, culture, shorter working hours, better working conditions, etc, in order to justify this behavioral altering. The chapter on education shows hungry children made to sit in front of food for hours at a time without eating it in order to build "patience". One can only imagine the child abuse going on behind the scenes to make this sort of lunacy possible. Walden Two is the sort of book that is in favor of beating your children.

Towards the end of the book it's revealed that Frazier is a complete egomaniac who personally runs and plans much of Walden Two (But um, actualleh that's totally OK b/c Walden Two has a 4 hour work week!!!!). He compares himself to Jesus Christ and his fellow Planners as his disciples.

Walden Two takes the liberal argument "hurr durr, muh human nature means ppl too greedy for socialist utopia" and responds with "You're correct, people are greedy and evil! Let's MIND CONTROL people into being selfless!" instead of refuting the initial argument as liberal bullshit.

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>>16640
noooo don't give up on marxism, you know so much about german idealism nooooooo
lol, lmao

>>16641
the fact that he is dumb as fuck, probably. he begins by complaining that, because a guy went and commodified child abuse, these utopian fantasies are the inevitable future of society. class struggle? material interests and conditions? politics? forget about all of that, what changes reality are our hecking ideas! the world would be so different if everyone read <utopian fantasy #162>!

>The most notable modern-day Walden Two inspired project is the Judge Rotenburg Center founded by Matthew Israel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Israel) which tortures autistic children with their patented Graduated Electronic Decelerator whenever they act out (or scream in pain when being shocked, or fail to reply when greeted, or break some other minor rule). This Matthew Israel guy studied Behaviorism under P.F Skinner, read & loved Walden Two as his favorite novel, and literally has a Disney Villain backstory where he realized he can control people through pain and founds a school to continue doing just that.
This guy is complete fucking scum. Being sent to a place like that is one of my biggest nightmares. Institutions are honestly worse than prison because at least most prison sentences end. I want to force him to play a piano with the threat of being electroshocked the second he stops.

>>16633

>"He compares himself to Jesus Christ and his fellow Planners as his disciples. "


Indeed; All Behaviorists are like that.

>Watson

He literally didn't believe that language existed and advocated for parents to neglect their children and to not be too affectionate.

>Skinner

An egomanic who craves nothing less than for society to be exactly how he wants and for him to 100% be in control. He's just like what you said he was, but to add, his theories have been debunked by Chomsky ( https://chomsky.info/1967____/ ), and he even made a follow up to W2 where Skinner writes in George Orwell to praise Fraizer for making a society "in line with 19th century anarchism" (Skinner, B.F. (1985). "News From Nowhere, 1984". The Behavior Analyst, 8(1), p. 6.)

>Lovaas

Very much like Watson, except applying his theory to autistic children specifically, literally beating them up for not doing something trivial like dancing to music, on top of him calling them sub-human; co-founder of Autism Society and an early pioneer in what we now call "autism awareness"

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>>23453
These men share a lot in common with evangelicals



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If you guys had to pick 4 short books as the ultimate starter pack on /leftypol/itics, which ones would you pick?

Which ones are the best combination of being essential, uncomplicated and short?
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>>22878
>Anti-Dühring and The German Ideology in the same list as On Contradiction

>>22993
On Contradiction is like one of those vaguely anti-capitalist economics books, that articulate a lot of marxist concepts in a subtly worse way, but for dialectics. It might be a good introduction to some people. Mao famously had an instinctive grasp on marxism and only read Capital later in life.

>>22993
Y'know Mao was a better writer for normal people, right?

>>22997
>Mao famously had an instinctive grasp on marxism and only read Capital later in life.
He was an anarchist LARPing (to great success) as a Marxist. It's why the western left idolizes him. If you actually read Marx and take it seriously you wind up like Deng or Xi.



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