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What is the best way to learn a language, and what good resources are there that are free? i used to use duolingo but that never really helped and has now gone the way of ai slop content.

in particular i'm looking for things to help with french. For context i was born in france and spoke it when i was very young but grew up speaking english, leaving vast gaps in my knowledge

we have a language learning thread >>32096
forget these apps, they're supplementary material at best
>do writing using pen and pencil
>talk out loud using the vocabulary you have learned
>describe what you're currently doing in another language, this will show what you do and don't know
>study the lyrics of musics you listen a lot
>stick to only a few language books
>watch foreign language yt videos

>>24638
Dead pointer




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Hi, I just checked the rules/faq and says maybe I can ask questions in Edu I hope it's ok.
Just come from watching The Antisocial Network and in awe with the whole story. From there I did some research and ended up here, I think this page is amazing but I'm not very familiar with the format of this place, I'd like to understand where to find threads for example: in here EDU, how do I see the threads happening?
I'm 36 and ND and finding a place outside instagram tiktok and all that crap has gotten me super excited :___D




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the way i explain the labor to people is very simple. I cut straight to the chase.

I say these things, usually not all at once. I let people chew on each one:

> 1 If you’re a boss, and you own a business, you have to pay the worker less than their work is worth.

> 2 If you pay them exactly what their work is worth, you don’t make any money, your business won’t grow, and you’ll get bought out by some asshole who pays workers less.
> 3 If you pay a worker more than their work is worth, you’re losing money, your business will shrink, and you’ll go out of business.
> 4 the problem is the system, because the way the system is set up, workers have to beg for a job from people who own the places we work at, and the bosses only give the job to the lowest bidder, the people willing to do the most in exchange for the least in return.
> 5 everybody who can't get a job has to keep looking for a job until they get so desperate they start selling themselves for less and less
> 6 even with how little they pay us they think it's too much. so they constantly look for ways to make more money and pay less money.
> 7 they send our jobs overseas to where the labor is cheaper, and they want us to blame the people overseas even though they're the ones sending the jobs off and calling themselves job creators while they do it
> 8 they hire a bunch of overeducated nerds to make machines and programs to do our jobs for us, so they can fire us, and then they take credit for what those nerds make
> 9 they give the jobs to people who just got here and are usually running away from some fucked up shit like war and are therefore more desperate than even the average schmuck here is
> 10 despite all this shit they do to get rid of us or make us work for less money, they still need to sell the stuff they make, and if everyone's too poor to buy that shit, then they gotta lower the price
> 11 the faster they make stuff, the cheaper that stuff is because less work goes into makin it, and money is just a piece of paper that says some work got done
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>>14135
This post is old but its the most important post in the entire website. Why, you may wonder: because its a psyop.

Accuse me of being a schizo, but I think antagonizing simple explanations for morons or the intellectually lazy is an FBI psyop designed to prevent us the commies from flipping the rightoid's target demographic: the intellectually lazy and the morons.

When people say shit like "no need to simplify! no need to dumb down! what are you a classist?" they're just weaponizing left wing rhetoric to prevent you from doing that which will actually work.

So I tell all of you: Dumb it all down, simplify then make it simpler. Make it spread.

>>22824
good post, anon

>>22824
I dont think its true at all that factory workers were studying capital on the factory floor

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>>14135
truth nuke of unimaginable magnitude and potence

sorry leftoids, the workers WILL read the ruthless critique and they WILL agree.

>>14135
Literacy doesn't mean voracious reading.

>>19045
This is the only real good post on here.
Most talks about a glorious leftist revolution in the twenty first century is a farce.
At best it's lib left bs.
At worst it's just right wing rehash.

>>14136
>Illiteracy is on the rise in the US and child labor has returned. This isn't because workers are getting dumber, but because the bourgeoisie are getting more ruthless.

I have yet to see where child labor is being a prominent return with exceptions of some outlier factory using orphans.

Also, I find it funny how people are complaining about illiteracy in a time where everyone makes and reads text messages and/or essay posts.
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Reading group for Volume 1 of Capital. The reading pace will adjust to suit the group, but we will aim for an average of 1 chapter per week, starting slower and speeding up as we move from abstract to concrete toward the end.

The Book
The version we are using as our standard is the Penguin Classics edition (attached .epub) but others including other languages are fine. We are only planning to read Volume 1 currently.
There has also been an audiobook suggested which matches this version of the text and may be useful to helping read it.
Audiobook: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUjbFtkcDBlSHVigHHx_wjaeWmDN2W-h8

The Format
This thread is intended for
<announcements and updates
<supplementary material.
<Q&A
<long-form posts, effortposts, OC
<slower discussion in general
The matrix chat is intended for
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>>20045
I'd rather not wade through it again, to be honest my comprehension of it is lacking compared to volume one, but I probably should.

I think this topic is worthy of sending a thread off the bottom of the catalogue.

Want to make a new thread about it here in /edu/?

i already read entire Vol1 more than year ago. I have no started Vol2 still. Probably lot of anons in same situation. Lets start with Vol2 now

What is relative surplus value? Idk, it sounds like something to do with prices but I can't really wrap my head around how it is different from normal surplus value.

Reposting an effortpost from a while back about Super-Profit

Let’s say that the average television takes 1 hour to make. 1 hour is the SNLT for televisions. But the owner of the ACME TV factory invests in some fancy new machines that make his workers twice as productive. They can now make a television in 30 minutes. They are producing way below the SNLT. This allows ACME to produce twice as many televisions in the same amount of time.

Now if ACME sold their new TV at half the old price they wouldn’t make any more money than before and there would have been no point in investing in all that new stuff. Rather than sell them at their individual value (30 minutes) they continue to sell them at the SNLT (1 hour), or perhaps just under the SNLT in order to out-sell their rivals. Because the price of TVs hasn’t changed significantly there is still the same demand from consumers for TVs, but now there is a giant surplus of TVs on the market because ACME has been making twice as many TVs. ACME’s rivals won’t be able to sell all of their TVs. Part of their product will go unsold. Meanwhile ACME will sell most of their TVs at the SNLT, making not just their normal profit, but an additional “super-profit” because they sold their TVs above their individual values by selling at or near the SNLT.

Profit vs. super-profit

Profit comes from exploiting workers. The only way to turn money into more money is to invest it in workers, or to be precise, in labor power, the only commodity which can produce more value than it costs. (This is all covered in the video “Law of Value 5: Contradictions”.) When ACME sells TVs at under the SNLT they don’t just reap their normal profits from exploiting workers. They also get super-profits: profit appropriated in exchange because their TVs are made at under the SNLT.

It is this race for super-profits that drives much of the technological dynamism of a capitalist society as capitalists compete to constantly lower SNLT. By doing so capitalists don’t just exploit value from workers. They also appropriate value in exchange.

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>>21796
<Engels: "the revolution can't just happen in one country and not expand because of the market"
<Some random ML: "ummm you're wrong though… the world has changed you see… now banks own everything or something like that, and so…. look socialism in one nation IS socialism because it JUST IS OKAY?!?!"
>damn this guy is like straight up bussin' and spittin' damn fax! Engels yo kkkracka ass will never convince me that commodity production and nationalism can't be socialist! goofy ass cracka!



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Where is the scientific rigor to Scientific Socialism?

Why is it always theory, never read proof?

Read theory, read theory, read theory. Read theory, read theory, read theory. Read theory, read theory, read theory.
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The preface is Hegel’s phenomenology of philosophy; it treats the various forms of philosophizing and delineates their defects. In a sense the preface is the completion of the section on absolute knowing. The book is itself a circle, the form Hegel attributes to the system as a whole. A theme that runs through the center of the preface is Hegel’s criticism of reflection and the understanding (Verstand) as capable of producing true philosophy and his characterization of speculation and reason (Vernunft) as the replacement for this inadequate form of philosophizing.

We find two sets of images in the preface. On the first page Hegel speaks of anatomy as being not a true science but only an “aggregate of information” (par. 1). Because it is a knowledge of only the parts of the body regarded as inanimate, we lack, in anatomy, a knowledge of the living body itself, of its principle of life. On the second page Hegel introduces the contrasting image of the bud of a plant producing a blossom that becomes a fruit. He characterizes this as an image of “organic unity” (par. 2) and as representing stages of necessity in the life of the whole.

Hegel says that the understanding schematizes experience, “a table of contents is all that it offers” (par. 53). The understanding, which proceeds through reflection on the object, produces, in thought, a world that is dead. All objects are fully categorized and rendered lifeless, labeled, like parts of a skeleton, or pigeon-holed, like boxes in a grocer’s stall. Reason, which proceeds speculatively, seeks out the principle of motion or life that is within the object, that makes the object, so to speak, what it is. Reflective understanding grasps the body as an anatomically ordered substance. Speculative reason goes within the body to its spirit to grasp its principle as a living subject.

The answer to this lies principally with Kant, with transcendental philosophy and critique. In his effort to answer David Hume and to secure, for the understanding, its own categories of experience, not derived from the senses, Kant forces himself to abandon reason. This causes Kant to formulate a very limited notion of experience, in which reason plays no role in the constitution of the object. Once one enters the world of critique there is no way out, no way to restore reason to its rightful place. Reason is sacrificed to reflection and to the trap of the transcendental.

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>>21909
The question of language goes right to the core of Hegel’s notion of systematic science, of truth that actually takes place in the embrace between thought and being. If a language of science is one meant to convey objective truth, then Hegel’s singular take on science must imply a special grasp of both its language and objectivity. What sort of discourse can claim to express objective truth within an idea of science that sees itself as the systematic articulation of existing knowledge? To answer this question we must guard against importing epistemological and linguistic notions foreign to the Hegelian idea of objective truth, neither must we import notions of objectivity and discourse alien to his idea of science.

Failure to comprehensively understand the nature of Hegelian scientific language has allowed to go unchallenged a wide-spread misunderstanding regarding the nature of Hegelian objectivity. This misunderstanding can be bluntly summarized as follows: the world itself operates dialectically, obeying an inherently dialectical logic. Many who know something of Hegel will probably find nothing objectionable in this statement. In fact, it appears readily verifiable with regard to that part of worldly objectivity Hegel deals with on the Spirit side of his philosophy, for example the rise of consciousness and inter-subjective relations. Indeed, spirit, as human activity, can easily be said to reflect thought or "mind", which, as the Logics tell us, is inherently dialectical. And it is this objectivity or "second nature"i that most commentators are interested in. When the natural world itself is brought into consideration, however, there is some embarrassment. It is indeed hard to verify, for example, that cosmological phenomena and chemical reactions operate along strictly dialectical lines. Hegel's Philosophy of Nature therefore tends to be taken less seriously, or ignored.

However, even when the inherently dialectical nature of Hegelian objectivity is ascribed solely to the Spririt side of his philosophy, crucial (Kierkegaardian, Marxian) questions arise concerning the coherency of the entire philosophical endeavor. If objectivity itself operates dialectically, what is the status of the philosopher subject (i.e. Hegel)? Or, more precisely, what is the status of Hegel's scientific discourse? From where does it derive its own objectivity Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>21904
>(Idealisation theory of science).
Idealism

scientific socialism is scientific insofar as it describes the functioning of the world in an objective and ideology-free way without rejecting its conclusions or the discoveries it makes along the way.

this is opposed to modern subjects such as sociology or economics, etc. which also analyse the world and its functioning but in a constructive lens. That is, their criticism is not ruthless, but constructive, for they hope to improve the system they live under with it.

scientific socialists on the other hand know that if they wish to abolish the misery they are forced to abolish the present economic system, because it is precisely it that creates and requires this very misery.

Throughout this thread, people have made a binary distinction between science and non-science. Partially they seem critical of this binary themselves and blame anglo culture for this crude way of thinking. But even anglo culture has a hard science VS soft science distinction, with further graduations how solid evidence needs to be to be considered proof in this or that community. You are unfair to even the biggest anglo STEMlord reddit-gold millionaires if you present them as being this crude and cocksure about what science is and is not.

Of course economics can be more or less scientific. They have causal models of booms and busts and they collect statistical data strengthening or weakening belief in this or that causal model. And economists also do little experiments about how people behave. It's called *drumroll* behavioral economics. Why deny that.

What a stupid thread.



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Lets examine these two men, or more specifically, the way they were viewed and the eras they represent.

Washington - Is supposed to represent the true founding of the US. This aristocratic figure, who through war, created this nation. A Napoleonic figure, in the sense that he led the war personally, and was the one who led the nation personally. His era represents a time where the states were in majority control. When the constitution was most respected. And of course, in some circles, what the US represented and should represent. A WASP nation. A Christian nation.

Lincoln - A man who represents the savior of this nation. This unlikely figure who rose from out of nowhere, and had the wherewithal to be able to keep it together. He represents the beginning of the centralization of the US. What's interesting about him was that he technically represents the beginning what the real nation of the US. Whereas before, they were the United States of America, now its the United States of America, with the US identity finally developing. A strangely Napoleonic move, if I do say so. And lastly, of course, the man who was able to overcome the US's original sin. Slavery.

Now for their detractors, its easy. Some will look at Washington (and Lincoln for that matter) as good for nothing racists. Washington so more because of his slaves. While others (reactoids) will look at Lincoln and curse him for causing the end of the US by allowing the Negro the same rights as Whites.

Now lots of these views are all great man theory. And they don't truly show who they were. They were complex humans, with strange morals. Washington hated slavery, but he kept his slaves. Lincoln detested slavery, but said he wanted ship black people back to Africa. This was pre civil war, but nonetheless, shows that these people aren't as simple as "good American guy" or "evil yakubian devil". But its interesting to see how different political tendencies viewed these two men and what they represented over the years. I would say the image in OP is the best example of what I mean. You have these two opposing forces, choosing two pivotal figures in US history, each representing different values. There is a clear reason for that and why still to this day, you will have reactionary forces calling on the memory of Washington over Lincoln. The left side less so, but still supporting similar ideas. John Brown, RePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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i mean let's be real. the reason the 1939 american nazis liked washington is because he owned slaves, and the reason the 1938 American communists liked Lincoln is because he is perceived as having freed the slaves

>>17474
Was America truly founded on Hitlerism?

>>17469
How can you argue Washington was a symbol of wasp identity in the 30s when the bund was flying banners of him lol “let’s say, you’re retarded”

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Nearly every narrative of American history has been so bastardized that I don't even get into the topic unless someone is over the usual posturing and bullshit that happens in these discussions.

Probably the helpful thing to remember is that the President was de-emphasized before the Civil War, and Lincoln takes a stronger role out of necessity but also bent over backwards to please his fellow Republicans and keep his generals happy even when they were drunk as fuck and wanted to undermine Lincoln for getting them involved in this mess. Washington presented himself as the great neutral force that everyone could agree on, while the government was mostly in the hands of the founding generation and they figured out what they were going to do with it (hint: they really don't agree on what they're going to do with it). Also he was a big Freemason and there were calls to make him a king, but Washington rebuffed this for all of the reasons kings are a terrible idea. In many cases, the President was a titular head who was out and about doing things, but the general public did have that strong an identification with most presidents. Washington was an exception because he was Washington but, as mentioned, he was the neutral center everyone could agree on. The real center of the country was Congress and its prominent Senators and Representatives, and the alliances and clubs the most prominent Congressmen had aligned with them; and really this meant decisions were made in the smoke-filled back room and this was suitable for everyone. No one was convinced laws were made entirely by ponderous procedures as a formality, as if that were the entirely of what the law and the state could be. If you tried to tell people that was how government worked, everyone, of every social class, would laugh at you and ask if you are on the dope. The procedures did have a disciplinary effect on the other Congressmen, prevented any one of them from jumping up and down like a retard too much and making Hitlerian proclamations. The President was a man tasked with very important executive business, and usually represented what the victorious party and government were going to push for, but to become President you had to please Congress and play ball, hence why the surest path to the Presidency was for all of American history through Congress. (Trump is not a President, he's a sniveling retard put up for show because this republic is deader than dead.) When Lincoln, who was the most oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

Post video recordings of lectures and announcements for online lectures.

>inb4 schitzos like peterson or other rightwingers

this is /leftypol/ faggot
>inb4 Richard D. Wolff
all his lectures i have seen so far are just very basic stuff if you find some more advanced stuff post it

I want to focus this thread on philosophy, history and political economy on an academic level.
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>>12529
>>12529
Miss this motherfucker more than you’ll ever believe.

Don't Talk to the Police
>Regent Law Professor James Duane gives viewers startling reasons why they should always exercise their 5th Amendment rights when questioned by government officials.

Alternative links:
https://piped.video/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/wiki/Instances Insert /watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE to the end of the link

>>20135
Oh, someone already posted this. Keeping it up cuz of the piped links though.

Beyond Chavs: Imagining a working class politics for the 21th century
Owen Jones

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A financebro friend from my old school called this morning to catch up after some time and I've come to notice uni education is absolutely shit. He asked for investment funds from his family back then and now has a tech startup. We used to scold him for not pursuing higher education and now all of my acquanitances who went to uni are either struggling to find jobs or wasting away in a low pay 9-5.

What went wrong? Did you benefit from higher education? What did you study if it did? What did you study if it didn't? What would you pursue if you had the chance to go to college again? I wanna hear your experience.
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>>24381
>I agree and it's why I will never do a trade, particularly when we as a society don't have a sufficient social safety net for anyone who gets a work place related injury. This is why the trades pay even less than what they pay in actuality. Even then, the per hour earnings of a tradesmen suck for quite a few years.

The real reason why trades pay less is because theyre less likely to have student loan debt compared to degrees.
Also while trades aren't guaranteed cushy living, you have more steady employment

The problem is, trades are looked down upon because people think getting a degree will get them big money more efficiently

>The other problem with the trades is that having completed an apprenticeship in {X} is not as transferable as a bachelors degree in {Y}. Many jobs just require the bachelors. Very few jobs require some sort of apprenticeship. It's why I think tech apprenticeships are a horrible idea. If you end up not becoming a developer, that credential is worthless.


Well, Ive heard from a guy who is an IT guy that the main problem with computer industry nowadays is the lack of hardware skills.
Most IT guys are only trained in software but are unable to troubleshoot hardware issues.

>Further, employers are not going to teach you the skills you need to job hop or keep up with the industry for decades like a degree SHOULD by covering the math, theory, etc. of computer science itself. Many CS degrees don't do that THOUGH. I've met people who were straight up failed by their degrees. I didn't even complete my CS degree until after I became a dev so I think I'm qualified to make this claim.


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>>24527
Ya, I know what an LLM is. A lot of people think these chat bots are literally skynet for some reason. Though, I wouldn't say college edu in the west isnt helpful for getting better jobs. Why else in USA would it be as cost prohibitive as it is? USA needs to do something about school cost. Everyone should attend college. People should know shit, and know how to do it. Western academia is just inundated with a multitude of problems and retarded ass ideas.

>>24543
>Everyone should attend college. People should know shit, and know how to do it.


The problem is, everyone goes to college nowadays.
Irony is, we have more adults spending more time in school than ever before and they still cannot function for shit.

I disagree with this libleft idea that college should be mandatory. It's no different from religion

And the irony is, alot of our educational institutions were funded by the church

>>24556
>The problem is, everyone goes to college nowadays.
You're not American. College enrollment todays at like an all time low.

>and they still cannot function for shit.

Cant speak for your country, but that's just the default state of your average American today. College or not.

>It's no different from religion

Lost me there too. College is supposed to actually teach you shit. Not molest you and teach you a form of shamanism.

>>24558
>You're not American. College enrollment todays at like an all time low.

Except I am. Even if not, everyone is going to college nowadays. "All time low" just means relative to a boom-bust cycle.

>Cant speak for your country, but that's just the default state of your average American today. College or not.


It's not just America. It's the average postmodern adult.

>Lost me there too. College is supposed to actually teach you shit. Not molest you and teach you a form of shamanism.


And a lot of molestation does happen in college.
Also, professors will fail you if you dare to correct them or have different methods of problem solving.

And a lot of people working within industries often complain about the incompetence of college educated folk.
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I will be very concise, since I know a long, boring post will make you just lose interest.
>fairly normal life, but im extremely bitter against (succubi) m*dels, the glamour, ease,wealth, luxury and globe-trotting they are gifted just cause MUH FACE
>Im in a country that has free university, including med school\ doctor's college, I wouldn't lose any money if I ended up failing
>I tell myself a lot, that only saving others is good enough reason to keep myself alive
Please give me an honest assessment of this conundrum. I AM willing to go through the pain that is med school, AND a career as a doctor- I talked to several people in either field, so I know what it will be like.

Having a medical degree is a sure way to never have to worry about money again as long as you don't go full retard with your spending.

Didn't you post a few months ago? I rember something similiar I thought you definitely were going to med school. Maybe it was someone else

>fairly normal life, but im extremely bitter against (succubi) m*dels, the glamour, ease,wealth, luxury and globe-trotting they are gifted just cause MUH FACE


This is a dumb reason.
I don't feel any jealousy towards those kind of people.
Those celebs have to deal with groomers and corporate assholes trying to steal their rightful pay.



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