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 No.5530[Reply]

"EXPLAIN JUSTICE TO ME OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU! DON'T DUMB IT DOWN INTO SOME VAGUE SHIT! EXPLAIN JUSTICE TO ME RIGHT NOW OR I'LL LITERALLY FUCKING KILL YOu!"
- Plato, "Republic", 375 BC
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 No.5593

justice is the means by which transgressors are reintegrated into society. simple
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 No.5605

Is Haz back?
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 No.5700

Justice is a lofty word and abstraction.
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 No.5701

>>5531
le funny utilitarian moment
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 No.5704

He actually answers it though.


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 No.3780[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Hello everyone, we have received the results of our project proposal topic, and I'm delighted to announce that we are teaming up with 'leftypedia' to deliver our planned 'argument/talking point resource' idea. In case you don't know, leftypedia is the current version of the old abandoned 'marxistpedia' which was a project started by leftypol users back in the day, so I think this is sort of like a homecoming in a way.

https://leftypedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Anyway, if you have a look at the leftypedia site you might be able to tell that they have a much more formal and 'encyclopedic' tone than what we're planning, just like wikipedia, but the admin is going to create a separate 'category' for our new content that will be called something like 'rhetoric: topic' rather than just 'topic', this will also feature on the frontpage much like the encyclopedic content. As a tenplate, I'd like you to feast your eyes on these pages which someone on leftypedia already made (albeit only on their personal userspace for now).

https://leftypedia.org/wiki/User:Anarcho-Bolshevik/compendium

I'd like to ask if anyone can come up with a slightly more catchy name for our new section than 'rhetoric', cause that sounds a bit cumbersome to me even though I came up with it, so yeah, open to suggestions.

So, since that isn't implemented yet, I'd like you all to try familiarise yourselves with the site for now, maybe take a look at the articles that are already there and improve some of them if you feel able. Unfortunately the site currently has only edit by approval so you will have to wait for any changes you make to be approved, this is because of a persistent spambot problem and I hope that we will be able to work out something to change this to normal editing as on wikipedia and the like, please just bear with it for now.

If you have an answer to a 'common question', or you have an effortpost you'd like to archive and save, then please post it in this topic for now so that we can work on it together until we can figure out how to categorise our new section of the site.

Thanks for your attention!
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 No.4550

>>4549
*use
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 No.4799

bump
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 No.5658

that moment when the ww1 article is 26 words long
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 No.5699

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>>4046
Mighty fine posts you got there, anon.


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 No.5689[Reply]

Does anybody have some book that study the Belt and Road Initiative from a Marxist-Leninist (not MLM) perspective? Preferably from the Chinese perspective.
I need it to debunk reactionnaries shitting on China daily and claiming the B&R is unsustainable.


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 No.5539[Reply]

Why isn't communism the same as liberalism? Why didn't Marx become a liberal while writing Capital? Before the critical turn of the enlightenment the purpose of most philosophy was grant intellectual legitimacy to dogmas, or pre-existing state of affairs or beliefs that are taken for granted. Classical political economists and those that came before them (Hobbes, the Physiocrats, others) were similarly uncritical; the categories of political economy were explained, but not criticized. Vulgar economists (most economists today) don't even bother with attempting to understand the categories or the social relations they're made up of, and spend their time building models of different elements of capitalist production for the purpose of making it more efficient. It's no coincidence that "economize" means "to make more efficient", that is the sole aim of vulgar economics.

Where does Marx depart? Marx takes the materialist analysis of the political economists, their categories and terms, and constructs from these building blocks an immanent critique of capitalist production. Capital isn't liberal because Marx takes the materialist analysis seriously, he criticizes without reservation the most basic elements of exchange and the religious affectation of participants in the exchange with its elements (read Marx on commodity fetishism). We can't seriously call Capital, which is the most thorough rupture with political economy ever written, an economics textbook.
>Check reply for more, you know who you are
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 No.5545

what capitalists are made of
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 No.5678

The more I read Marx the more humanistic I see in his ideas. When I say humanistic I don't mean liberal philanthropic sense but in the communal way, the individual should be elevated by all, and by elevation of all individuals, we elevate the collective. It's a appropriation of the real meaning of individuality not mediated by capitalism, but by humanism, or communism in the Marxist sense.
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 No.5681

No. Hegelianism and dialectics negates a log of the presuppositions of the philosophy of Locke. modern liberalism and neoconservatism don’t.
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 No.5682

>>5678
Marx was a humanist just not a utilitarian humanist. “anti-humanism” is usually either peak intellectualist pettiness or just 14 year old atheists that don’t understand what humanism means
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 No.5702

everything is liberalism


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 No.5615[Reply]

Writer worth reading or reactionary garbage?

Lenin apparently wasn't a fan; from "The Other Lenin" by Alexander Maysuryan:
> ["Demons" is] Evidently reactionary filth, like Krestovsky's "Flock of Panurge", I have absolutely no desire to waste time on it. I have no need for such literature; what could it possibly give me? […] I have no free time for this garbage."
Demons isn't the only book he doesn't like:
>I am familiar with the content of both these pungent works, and that is more than enough for me. I just about began reading the "Brothers Karamazov" and then dropped it: the scenes in the monastery made me sick."

However, Stalin apparently enjoyed Dostoevsky greatly. He had a heavily annotated copy of "The Brothers Karamasov" and at least once referred to Dostoevsky as a "great philosopher." Quote:
> [Dostoevsky is] a great writer and a great reactionary. We don't publish him because he is a bad influence on the youth. But he is a great author.
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 No.5662

Bump.
>>5615
I don't have much to add, but I really liked "The Idiot" when I read it in high school. My main takeaway from that and "Crime and Punishment" was his focus on psychology, which I assume was fairly novel for when Dostoevsky was writing. Surprised to learn that Stalin was a fan.
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 No.5670

>>5615
>We don't publish him because he is a bad influence on the youth. But he is a great author.
KEK
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 No.5673

I've read Notes from Underground, I thought it would be about some loser but that guy had a better life than I do.
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 No.5674

>>5673
>that guy had a better life than I do.
in what way


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 No.764[Reply]

The Paris Commune successfully establishes socialism in France. What now?
ITT: Post and speculate about alternate history.
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 No.1751

>>793
Soviets still win
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 No.1755

Kill yourselves
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 No.1803

>>1755
have sex
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 No.3110

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What if William H. Sylvis had lived longer? Could he have forged a stronger working class movement? Perhaps change the outcome of the Great Railroad Strike?
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 No.5671

https://leftypol.org/edu/res/2030.html#4424
Suggestion for another alt history
Trotsky's tact against the Nazi Army

What if he didn't abandon the USSR and worked with Stalin in defeating Germany


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 No.5616[Reply]

Dialectical thinking is not only a western concept. There is a native Chinese tradition of dialectics within Taoism, that while similar to has some interesting differences when compared to western dialectics. Is this something worth exploring? It was very influential to Mao's thinking. Not to sound to much like a libtard but it seems exploring non western philosophy might be an interesting way to gain insights that might be otherwise ignored.
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 No.5666

>>5616
pics 2 and 3 make the different traditions of dialects look like completly alien concepts
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 No.5667

>Circularity: No Development
that would be directly against the notion of DiaMat, then? i don't think Mao was inspired by that part of it, any way


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 No.5632[Reply]

I'm not sure if anyone is interested, but I've created a playlist of all of jacque Fresco's classic lectures from tapes 1-20. The audio is a little hard to hear, so you may have to wear headphones or earphones, but the audio is relatively fine.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiADn3rLZsazUnhTlBCgiD9MaxPCANwD-
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 No.5647

Bump
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 No.5655

check out this thread, copied your post there
>>>/leftypol/234065
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 No.5656

Bump
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 No.5657

Bump
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 No.5660

Try to download these lectures aswell, I'm hoping youtube won't delete them.


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 No.79[Reply]

Post any weird and obscure history facts that you know of
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 No.4566

>>79
Night 272 of the Arabian Nights includes a brief tale relating to the fall of Toledo in Spain. It is said that the monarchs of the city kept a room in the tower locked but the last king decided to open it. Inside he found pictures of Arab soldiers and a note saying that the city would fall to Islam were the room ever opened. This supposedly happened in 711, the year Toledo fell.
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 No.4567

>>299
*laugh track*
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 No.5612

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Robespierre and David Guetta studied at the same university.
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 No.5624

>>759
“here’s an idea in the science-fiction community called steam-engine time, which is what people call it when suddenly twenty or thirty different writers produce stories about the same idea. It’s called steam-engine time because nobody knows why the steam engine happened when it did. Ptolemy demonstrated the mechanics of the steam engine, and there was nothing technically stopping the Romans from building big steam engines. They had little toy steam engines, and they had enough “There’s an idea in the science-fiction community called steam-engine time, which is what people call it when suddenly twenty or thirty different writers produce stories about the same idea. It’s called steam-engine time because nobody knows why the steam engine happened when it did. Ptolemy demonstrated the mechanics of the steam engine, and there was nothing technically stopping the Romans from building big steam engines. They had little toy steam engines, and they had enough metalworking skill to build big steam tractors. It just never occurred to them to do it. ”
-William Gibson
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 No.5625

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There wasn't actually a dog at the boston massacre


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 No.2300[Reply]

I saw this picture (pic related) on another thread, and I am actually pretty curious about the topic.

Any good suggestions (books, videos, texts) for getting into African philosophy, culture and art?
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 No.4596

>>4594
>People thought the earth was flat bf copernicus
wrong
you probably mean geocentrism but even that is not entirely true
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 No.4602

>>4594
Circular Earth has been the norm since Anaxagoras and Plato.
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 No.4611

>>4588
have you got a pdf of them
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 No.4629

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 No.5613

>>2442
>read Hegel’s History of Philosophy
Hegel was pretty ignorant about non western philosophy.
for example the chinese.


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