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All the sources I've read treat it like an isolated episode in the history of philosophy without relevance to what came after the renaissance and any reference to it after the fact seems to be out of pure butthurt from catholics because philosophy became secular.
But is it really irrelevant or does it have anything worth studying from it beyond its place in history? Like for example is the scholastic dialectical method any relevant to marxism?


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its the culmination platonic-aristotelian thought which is the most 'scientific' expression of ancient ideology, western and eastern.

>According to Eliade, traditional man feels that things "acquire their reality, their identity, only to the extent of their participation in a transcendent reality". To traditional man, the profane world is "meaningless", and a thing rises out of the profane world only by conforming to an ideal, mythical model. Eliade describes this view of reality as a fundamental part of "primitive ontology" (the study of "existence" or "reality"). Here he sees a similarity with the philosophy of Plato, who believed that physical phenomena are pale and transient imitations of eternal models or "Forms" (see Theory of forms). He argued: Plato could be regarded as the outstanding philosopher of 'primitive mentality,' that is, as the thinker who succeeded in giving philosophic currency and validity to the modes of life and behavior of archaic humanity. Eliade thinks the Platonic Theory of forms is "primitive ontology" persisting in Greek philosophy. He claims that Platonism is the "most fully elaborated" version of this primitive ontology.

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Give me some recommendations. Also, has anyone read this? Is it any good?


Orientalism by Edward Said is a must read. You don't have to aggree with everything he said, but you should still read it imo


If you're interested in Iran specifically, Between Two Revolutions is a good book written by a Marxist that presents the history of (mostly) 20th century Iran through that lens very well.


> Between Two Revolutions
Thank you very much for the recommendation.
I'd recommend "All the Shah's Men" by Kinzer on the topic of Iran. He has some other good books as well, such as "The Brothers" and "Poisoner-in-Chief".


Hello everyone, OP here, I read all your books and they are very good. And I want to provide an update on picrel. I read it, and after reading a lot of different accounts on Lebanon and Hezbollah. I can say the book in picrel is accurate. The author isn't a Marxist, but is legitimate and gives a accurate understanding of the group and it's history. If anyone disagrees I would love to hear about it.


>I read it, and after reading a lot of different accounts on Lebanon and Hezbollah.
You can ask me and while I'm not exactly a Hezbollah expert I do live in the regime that is it's primary supporter


Have books such as this and other "former KGB agent" testimonies ever been thoroughly debunked or criticized? If so, could you link me to those resources?

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"Marx thought that in order to
decide what should be done at a given historical moment, in a given country and under given
conditions, one must carefully study (with the help of the method of scientific communism) all
the specific features of the given situation (which is constantly changing) and the situation
existing not only within the given country itself, but in all the other countries of the world.
Marxism considers that only by such a study can the
…thinking representatives o£ the given class [acquire] the necessary knowledge, the
necessary experience—and, apart from all knowledge and experience—the necessary
political instinct for the quick and correct solution of intricate political problems. " Dialectical
Materialism The Theoretical Foundation
of Marxism-Leninism
V. Adoratsky

So, my communist brothers, are there studies, actual good ones (no SJW shit) about the current state of the world with a communist POV and with the use of the method of scientific communism? Id love to read it and learn so i know if there will be a revoltuion/ be a chance of. know in more detail.
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i can't find the original papers he's talking about. this guy needs to cite better smh



you can get a functionally marxist commentary on the state of the world every week in the Financial Times

there's not going to be a revolution and the "great reset" is mostly a WEF meme, what's actually happening is very different



Read some of his stuff on the situation with russia and imperialism, it's very well argued



so tell us then what exactly is happening and why is it different

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Hello brothers.
Id like some recomendations of philosophy Books by famous Communist philosophers. Please do not give me people of this century. And please let the communist author be russian. I want to read Communist soviet philosophy books but im not sure where to start. The books CAN be about any topic though i would prefer if it is about communist values and deep shit.

I could not find somethign like that in the generell book thread here.
thank you!



First choice for Russian philosophers would be Lenin and Plekhanov, but if you meant after them I'd recommend Adoratsky, Spirkin and Ilyenkov. If you want a basic thing, Vladimir Adoratsky wrote a really cool brief introduction to materialism.
Spirkin wrote a bigger textbook on philosophy but it was also intended for beginners.
Ilyenkov's summary on the history of dialectics

Also don't forget Lenin's Materialism and Empirio-Criticism was a philosophy must-read in the USSR



>What is Democratic Centralism? This philosophy, formulated by Marx, Engels, and Lenin, allows groups to make decisions collectively - giving everyone a voice while maintaining harmony and unity in thought and action.

>Today, in part 1, we will learn what Democratic Centralism means and why we should apply it in our real life organizing.
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Or possibly they're looking for autonomism


i are many smarts


thats ok, anon, you don't need to contribute to be worthy of love
/b/ is where you'll find the discourse you want
idk if this is sarcastic or not, but it's not at all an easy answer. One thing that's really annoying with socialist revolutionaries (like lenin e.g.) is how much they talked as if revolution was itself the goal and highest value to be achieved. It's one thing to laugh off philosophical charlatans pretending to be all objective, and assert your goals which align with your class, but when you need to rest on absolutely solid ground it's not good enough to leave open room for nihilist and pragmatist critiques, and force skepticism out of its safe spot before the crossroads of idealism or materialism.
it's not about technical professionals having final political say (out of the scope of their work - though obviously i'm not discounting the socialist tradition of critiquing professional cretinism and the need for people under socialism to be more broadly educated and all disciplines of science to be brought into communication and agreement) or AI rule or anything. Idk maybe ur right tho i don't know much about technocracy
i think that's smth totally unrelated


>>11724 (me)
*and you gotta force skepticism out of its safe spot


Read "The Democratic Principle"


Thread for tracing and studying the origins and history of anti-communist propaganda. One of the earliest anticommunist myths I've found is that back in the 1870s right wingers were declaring that the Paris Commune was the work of foreign agents/provocateurs from The International and money from London, and that Marx and co were accused of being sort of masterminds financing dissent and chaos throughout Europe.
Marx talks about it here: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/bio/media/marx/71_07_18.htm
And Engels' words on it:
>You know that the millions of the International do not exist except in the terrified imagination of the bourgeoisie and of the governments, which cannot understand how an association like ours has been able to win such a great position without having millions at its disposal. If they had only seen the accounts submitted at the last Conference! (MECW Vol 44)

I'll be adding what I know in later posts


This thread has some lulzy stuff from the 1950s-60s.


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Did the ancient/medieval Ethiopians domesticate the African elephant? In many historical records, the Abyssinians/Aksumites are mentioned to use elephants for military purposes, but were these African elephants or Asian elephants? In modern-day Ethiopia, or in fact anywhere for that matter, there is no sign of domestication of the African elephant. However, African elephants have been extensively used in ancient times for military purposes, for example by the Carthaginians.
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Extinct species likely… if they domesticated the species their use likely lead to the subspecies being extinct if it was relegated to that given area


>Did the ancient/medieval Ethiopians domesticate the African elephant?
No, elephants are to long lived for that to be possible, it takes 20-25 years for an elephant to grow up.


>2 years no response
>immediate answer


Dialetiks or smthg


Is there a website where I can learn philosophy? A website that leads your through and explains to you all larger categories and questions in philosophy? I know there is plato.stanford.edu, but it's an encyclopedia and doesn't lead you through the topics in a didactic manner. I didn't want to learn philosophy by reading a bunch of books, because I have several dozens of books I'm already intending to read.
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I'd like to get into epistemology. Which thinkers and what literature do you recommend for that?



Cool, I‘m reading it. What I noticed first is how confused I was at what exactly the confusion or contradiction was about. Sure rationalism as opposed to empiricism but where is the issue? Until I read

>Meanwhile, in Revolutionary England, the Royalist Thomas Hobbes continues the evolution of empiricism by a consideration of how the action of matter on the sense organs generates thought in the mind

So that was an epiphany at that time. It would be nice to have a complete understanding of what exactly people at a time believed/knew or didn‘t know. I didn‘t get the confusion or dispute at first.


Manuel DeLanda
You can watch a lot of his lectures on youtube.


Great read. Anything else?


im working with some comrades on some pro-union palm cards. my job is to write down the process on how to form a union

can any of you smarter and wittier comrades able to help?
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Is this for organizing an NLRB recognized union in the us? I'm in the process and can answer questions.
Or is it for class struggle / IWW style unions?


Look at Jane McAlevey's work.


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> The "Memphis Seven" celebrate a federal judge's order compelling Starbucks to give them their jobs back after they were fired for leading a unionization drive. (Photo: Memphis Seven/Twitter)
> Federal Judge Orders Starbucks to Rehire Fired Union Organizers in Memphis
> "It was a ruling in favor of what's right," said one member of the Memphis Seven. "We knew from day one that we were going to win this, it just took time."
> August 18, 2022


> First NYC 'Just Cause' Lawsuit Targets Starbucks for Union-Busting
> "Just in time for Labor Day, Starbucks secures another spot in the union-busting hall of fame," said one workers' group.
> September 2, 2022
> Citing violations of its Fair Workweek Law, New York City sued Starbucks on Friday, accusing the company of illegally firing a barista for his union organizing activities.


>pro-union palm cards
I guess I've heard this word in a different context, are you talking about small cards you can hand to people? Show us an example or the amount of space you have to work with. It may just be better to link to an adequate guide, depending on your target audience.

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