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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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 No.5632[Reply]

I'm not sure if anyone is interested, but I've created a playlist of all of jacque Fresco's classic lectures from tapes 1-20. The audio is a little hard to hear, so you may have to wear headphones or earphones, but the audio is relatively fine.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiADn3rLZsazUnhTlBCgiD9MaxPCANwD-anarchismAnarchism
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 No.5647

Bump

 No.5655

check out this thread, copied your post there
>>>/leftypol/234065

 No.5656

Bump

 No.5657

Bump

 No.5660

Try to download these lectures aswell, I'm hoping youtube won't delete them.



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 No.5616[Reply]

Dialectical thinking is not only a western concept. There is a native Chinese tradition of dialectics within Taoism, that while similar to has some interesting differences when compared to western dialectics. Is this something worth exploring? It was very influential to Mao's thinking. Not to sound to much like a libtard but it seems exploring non western philosophy might be an interesting way to gain insights that might be otherwise ignored.

 No.5666

>>5616
pics 2 and 3 make the different traditions of dialects look like completly alien concepts

 No.5667

>Circularity: No Development
that would be directly against the notion of DiaMat, then? i don't think Mao was inspired by that part of it, any way



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 No.5615[Reply]

Writer worth reading or reactionary garbage?

Lenin apparently wasn't a fan; from "The Other Lenin" by Alexander Maysuryan:
> ["Demons" is] Evidently reactionary filth, like Krestovsky's "Flock of Panurge", I have absolutely no desire to waste time on it. I have no need for such literature; what could it possibly give me? […] I have no free time for this garbage."
Demons isn't the only book he doesn't like:
>I am familiar with the content of both these pungent works, and that is more than enough for me. I just about began reading the "Brothers Karamazov" and then dropped it: the scenes in the monastery made me sick."

However, Stalin apparently enjoyed Dostoevsky greatly. He had a heavily annotated copy of "The Brothers Karamasov" and at least once referred to Dostoevsky as a "great philosopher." Quote:
> [Dostoevsky is] a great writer and a great reactionary. We don't publish him because he is a bad influence on the youth. But he is a great author.international_brigadeInternational Brigade

 No.5662

Bump.
>>5615
I don't have much to add, but I really liked "The Idiot" when I read it in high school. My main takeaway from that and "Crime and Punishment" was his focus on psychology, which I assume was fairly novel for when Dostoevsky was writing. Surprised to learn that Stalin was a fan.

 No.5670

>>5615
>We don't publish him because he is a bad influence on the youth. But he is a great author.
KEK

 No.5673

I've read Notes from Underground, I thought it would be about some loser but that guy had a better life than I do.

 No.5674

>>5673
>that guy had a better life than I do.
in what way



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 No.5588[Reply]

>muh fire
>muh artemis
>muh bow/harp
>muh death/play
>muh wisdom in ordinary things

>But he had himself withdrawn into the temple of Artemis in order to play knucklebones with the children; here, the Ephesians stood around him, and he said to them: “What are you gaping at, you scoundrels? Or is it not better to do this than to work with you on behalf of the πόλις (city)?”


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 No.5558[Reply]

You people lied to me, I read Deleuze and the guy was a fucking materialist.

 No.5563

Care to elaborate?

 No.5586

who ever said deleuze wasn't a materialist. he's like the arch-materialist.

 No.5587

>>5586
He’s a spinozist.

 No.5595

>>5587
Isn't Spinoza a materialist too…?

 No.5598

>>5595
he’s a fake materialist



 No.5539[Reply]

Why isn't communism the same as liberalism? Why didn't Marx become a liberal while writing Capital? Before the critical turn of the enlightenment the purpose of most philosophy was grant intellectual legitimacy to dogmas, or pre-existing state of affairs or beliefs that are taken for granted. Classical political economists and those that came before them (Hobbes, the Physiocrats, others) were similarly uncritical; the categories of political economy were explained, but not criticized. Vulgar economists (most economists today) don't even bother with attempting to understand the categories or the social relations they're made up of, and spend their time building models of different elements of capitalist production for the purpose of making it more efficient. It's no coincidence that "economize" means "to make more efficient", that is the sole aim of vulgar economics.

Where does Marx depart? Marx takes the materialist analysis of the political economists, their categories and terms, and constructs from these building blocks an immanent critique of capitalist production. Capital isn't liberal because Marx takes the materialist analysis seriously, he criticizes without reservation the most basic elements of exchange and the religious affectation of participants in the exchange with its elements (read Marx on commodity fetishism). We can't seriously call Capital, which is the most thorough rupture with political economy ever written, an economics textbook.
>Check reply for more, you know who you are
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 No.5545

what capitalists are made of

 No.5678

The more I read Marx the more humanistic I see in his ideas. When I say humanistic I don't mean liberal philanthropic sense but in the communal way, the individual should be elevated by all, and by elevation of all individuals, we elevate the collective. It's a appropriation of the real meaning of individuality not mediated by capitalism, but by humanism, or communism in the Marxist sense.

 No.5681

No. Hegelianism and dialectics negates a log of the presuppositions of the philosophy of Locke. modern liberalism and neoconservatism don’t.

 No.5682

>>5678
Marx was a humanist just not a utilitarian humanist. “anti-humanism” is usually either peak intellectualist pettiness or just 14 year old atheists that don’t understand what humanism means

 No.5702

everything is liberalism



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 No.5530[Reply]

"EXPLAIN JUSTICE TO ME OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU! DON'T DUMB IT DOWN INTO SOME VAGUE SHIT! EXPLAIN JUSTICE TO ME RIGHT NOW OR I'LL LITERALLY FUCKING KILL YOu!"
- Plato, "Republic", 375 BC
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 No.5593

justice is the means by which transgressors are reintegrated into society. simple

 No.5605

Is Haz back?

 No.5700

Justice is a lofty word and abstraction.

 No.5701

>>5531
le funny utilitarian moment

 No.5704

He actually answers it though.



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 No.5521[Reply]

Hey Comrades! The ideas of Max Stirner (lived at the time of Marx) somehow appeal to me. As I understood he basically says that morality and religious and social norms are void (called them "spooks"). By freeing oneself of these concepts, one can follow one's own will. By cooperation and mutual interest one can then happily coexist and live with other individuals.
What are your thoughts on that?anarcho-nihilismAnarcho-Nihilism

 No.5522

You should probably ask >>>/dead/.

 No.5523

Cool thanks, didn't know this board exists.

 No.5524

>>5522
/edu/ isn't restricted to marxism only…



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 No.5506[Reply]

I'm looking for books on Middle Eastern politics and history. Give me some recommendations. Also, has anyone read this? Is it any good?

 No.5515

Orientalism by Edward Said is a must read. You don't have to aggree with everything he said, but you should still read it imo

 No.5568

If you're interested in Iran specifically, Between Two Revolutions is a good book written by a Marxist that presents the history of (mostly) 20th century Iran through that lens very well.

 No.5572

>>5568
> Between Two Revolutions
Thank you very much for the recommendation.
>>5506
I'd recommend "All the Shah's Men" by Kinzer on the topic of Iran. He has some other good books as well, such as "The Brothers" and "Poisoner-in-Chief".

 No.6791

>>5515
>>5568
>>5568
Hello everyone, OP here, I read all your books and they are very good. And I want to provide an update on picrel. I read it, and after reading a lot of different accounts on Lebanon and Hezbollah. I can say the book in picrel is accurate. The author isn't a Marxist, but is legitimate and gives a accurate understanding of the group and it's history. If anyone disagrees I would love to hear about it.



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 No.5485[Reply]

Is there such a thing yet? Philosophy about data itself, datamining, neural networks, massive surveillance, etc.
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 No.5491

Pretty weird because I was literally thinking the exact same thing this morning. You would think it’s pretty straight forward to make a dialectical analysis of the internet and its alienation and accumulation of data but it seems like no one has done it.

 No.5493

>>5491
more likely, academic philosophy (and science's philosphy) is way too obscure and not vulgarized at all, cause I would be surprised none of them thought about theorizing that shit

 No.5494

Baudrillard and Virilio

 No.5507

>>5485
philosophy of technology is your best bet. McLuhan, Packard, Mumford, Baudrillard

For specific current books on what you're talking about:
The age of surveillance capitalism
Surveillance Valley - The Secret Military History of the Internet

 No.5538

>>5507
I think OP is talking more about the internet as a culture and it’s movements. An explanation for the rise and fall of internet communities would be an interesting endeavor.



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