/edu/ - Education

Looking for good books on atheism

What's some good resources for getting into witchcraft, particularly Wicca, proper? Like I understand the basics sort of, but I'd like to develop an understanding of it that isn't just scrapped together from youtube videos.

>>9083
Alawites are "ghulat", ie extermists, meaning they worship ali as an aspect of god, making them technically heretical to all mainstream forms of shia islam.

>>9052
I will say one of the bad consequences of Marxism was that it separated socialism from spirituality and religion. Before Marx, most utopian socialist movements were religious or occult groups or freemason lodges. This separation made scientific socialism crude, mechanical, and soulless form of political scientism.

>>9106
>there's a good reason atheists tend to be angry about religion and all the barbarism it involves
That's because most of them are ironically fundmamentalists who portray religion in a specific way to alleviate themselves. Its similar to how the Germans pass the Holocaust guilt onto Nazis and immigrants. And although they champion criticism, they chimp out whenever you criticize them or imply their narratives are flawed. The myth of an essentially evil and barbaric religion, timeless and everywhere the same, is pure projection, a myth cooked up by the atheist. The reason most online atheists are angry about religion is because they are as bigoted as Jerry Falwell.

>>10499
I've never liked Dabashi. I don't think this book is a good work of theology and the whole post-colonial studies thing is a dead end.

>>20208
Many people who go under the traditionalist Catholic label aren’t really traditionalists and many are borderline heretics.

I'm not so sure on cramming for exams being that bad

Sure if a person is actually interested in a topic, the more "humanistic" education seems superior, but if I'm talking to someone who had no real prior interest in the topic and just learnt it because they had to, the person who crammed for the exam tends to have a more solid grounding than the person who learned the topic in more liberal education

>>24966
It is part and parcel of the factory-ification of human thought. Less about education in the traditional sense, and all the more about rote inculcation for the sake of utility, as if mental processes are merely resources floating around in the minds of automatons.

education has been a commodity from day 1 of capitalism lol?

I think the real problem with education is that academic figures have a pathological aversion to blue collar skills

>>24966
I think that looking at the broader picture this is mostly an issue of intellectual monopoly rent/differential rent and labor monopolies. I think that siding with the proletariat means that information must be made free. So shit like the free software movement but also pirating sites like Sci-Hub and Annas-Archive. IMO this sort of stuff will help the global South and lower the rate of profit. Also it will help to proletarianize the middle-class which is way too fucking stubbornly sticking around under imperialism.

>>18213
cringe

from what I remember of the threads about moscow trials, I had been convinced they were legit, and had all the necessary proofs through cross examination of testimonies and a few docs.


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>>18214
if the topic doesnt interest you just fuck off elsewhere maybe ? go touch grass for example

>>18213
its funny cuz every trot org will accuse slightly different leninists of the exact same shit ion even fw tukhachevsky like that Im just sick and tired of minor sectarian issues being treated seriously

>>18206
Interesting article here:

https://stalinistcivilization.substack.com/p/killing-tukhachevsky
>Tukhachevsky persists in the historical imagination as a deeply fascinating character. The “Red Napoleon” who never was, a brilliant military thinker whose life ended in abrupt fashion at the hands of the NKVD. The execution of Tukhachevsky and his allies has traditionally been characterized as a carefully orchestrated campaign of lethal repression carried out to ensure Stalin’s absolute power. This Cold War era narrative, which has largely been discredited with the opening of Soviet archives, has been used to show how Stalin’s ostensible megalomania sabotaged his own army’s prospects on the eve of war. On the other end, many contemporary Marxist-Leninists, adhering to the view of Stalin’s Soviet state, justify the execution of Tukhachevsky on the grounds that he was the ringleader of a fascist plot.

>In contrast to both of these theories, I draw on the work of various historians to argue that the execution of Tukhachevsky was the outcome of a factional power-struggle between two competing visions over the strategic direction of the Red Army. Tukhachevsky’s notorious personal power ambitions and his embittered military-strategic opposition to Stalin’s officer, Voroshilov, were perceived as a source of internal disunity capable of a producing a crisis that could potentially derail the war effort. Historian Vladmir Rogovin, in reference to the Stalin-era purges, stressed the importance of needing “to separate the fantastic and absurd charges from the evidence of the defendants' genuine anti-Stalinist activity” (Rogovin, 1998, p. 482). This requires going beyond Stalin’s psychology and the sensationalism of the Moscow Show Trials to find the power-struggle and oppositional politics at the heart of this matter.

>>18206
https://istmat.org/node/46724
Here it is necessary to return to Tukhachevsky.

The trial of the group of former senior Red Army commanders, unlike the trials of civilians, was, for obvious reasons, held behind closed doors. But some rather significant facts about the conspiratorial activities of Tukhachevsky, Yakir and other military men leaked into the testimony of the accused in other trials.

At the trial of the "right-Trotskyist bloc" held in March 1938, the defendant Krestinsky, former deputy people's commissar for foreign affairs, testified, for example, that back in 1933, during his meeting with Trotsky in the city of Meran, Trotsky suggested that he establish contact with Tukhachevsky, in whom he saw "an adventurist man, claiming to take the first place in the army, and who would probably go to great lengths."

From the testimony of the defendants at this trial it is clear that Tukhachevsky was hatching plans for a military coup.

Krestinsky said that when the destruction of underground organizations began in 1936, Tukhachevsky began to force the coup in every possible way.

"At the end of November 1936, at the VIII Extraordinary Congress of Soviets, Tukhachevsky had an excited, serious conversation with me. He said: failures have begun, and there is no reason to think that the matter will stop with the arrests that have been made… He drew conclusions: there is no point in waiting for intervention, we must act ourselves… Tukhachevsky spoke not only on his own behalf, but also on behalf of the counter-revolutionary military organization," Krestinsky testified in court.

In March 1937, a meeting was held at the apartment of the defendant Rosenholz, a member of the "Right-Trotskyist Center," in which Tukhachevsky and Krestinsky took part. At the meeting, the date for the speech was set - the second half of May (after Tukhachevsky's return from a trip to London).
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>>24899
>Caste: origin of our discontents
probably could find videos on it too if you are illiterate like me. I can't seem to read a book for the life of me.

Honestly the best place to start is to deprogram yourself from the Austrian School economic ideology by reading classical political economy and political theory, to know where these things came from. You'll notice the Nazi sector goes out of their way to obfuscate the old liberals, because the fascist authors selected for you were the "wave of the future" (and most of these were either faggots or German ideologues, who weren't writing about fascism so much as they were writing about their preferred faggotry). If you understand British liberalism and you understand American history (this is the harder one to deprogram because there's so many lies written by foreigners and modern Americans), you understand why socialism arose and what Marx was directly critiquing. Marx doesn't make sense unless you have some basic knowledge of the liberal ideas. You're not going to fully understand it if you just take Marx as a gospel writer. Conversely a lot of bad communists tell everyone "only read Marx" and then "only read our interpretations of Marx and nothing else", and this did a lot of damage to the education of so many people.

You don't really "break out" until you start applying this knowledge to the present world, and ask how what we have now is way different from what the liberals described, and then you look at the points where it did change and see that nearly everything written in the past 100 years has been a calculated system of lying. Most of the Nazi and alt-right faggotry? It's purely Public Relations, and Hitler was a test run of PR in Germany. It's really sad to see how easy it was to make the "Hitler phenomenon" happen. There isn't actually much to the man. He was there to give the dumb speeches and appeal to certain retards in Germany who liked that speaking style, while everyone else believed Hitler was a vehicle for their personal ambitions.

Generally histories of the Nazi regime are poorly written, Some are better than others, but all were written under a taboo against acknowledging too frankly what had happened, and there was a 15-year taboo against writing about Germany. After that, the revisionist historians did a lot of work and said it was "okay" to write about the Nazi period, and that had never been done in history writing before.

>>24905
>austrian school
>nazis
you are severely confused. the austrian school dont believe in exploitation, but the maximalism of shared value in the market by voluntary transaction (since trade can only occur where one value is preferred over another; this methodology is also true in marx's case, except that he takes the classical distinction between value in use and exchange to see how a value in use is traded for a value in exchange, rather than the austrian perspective that all values are use-values). the nazis believe in exploitation, but only where it concerns either "unearned income" or usury. i go over a criticism of the political economy of national socialism from a liberal perspective here:
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>>24480
Read Paul Williams' "Operation Gladio: The Unholy Alliance between the Vatican, the CIA, and the Mafia" and then read Spencer Sunshine's "Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege". Also listen to The Empire Never Ended podcast. A lot of these fascist cults are literal CIA psyops. It's the same shit with ISIS as with crime in the ghettos and neonazi autistics online. The feds are incredibly uncreative in reusing the same basic Anglo-Catholic structure for Wicca, Satanism, Wahhabism and other fascist cults and criminal gangs. You have to understand that ideologies like Gangsterism and the Blackpill are tools of the capitalists to abuse the working class. I mean Andrew Tate is flat out an American asset, probably some kind of Epstein situation IMO.

Semi-relevant

https://maia.crimew.gay/posts/brg/

https://youtu.be/A7ha3rrO08I
https://youtu.be/47pDXptT7qE

Marxism is, first and foremost, about "abolishing the current state of things", which is to say, putting an end to Capitalism and the current world order. What this actually looks like is not a serious consideration of most Marxists; all that matters is that we currently live under capitalism, and that's a bad thing.

It took me a very long time to understand this, because it's something that Marxists tend to take for granted.

There was some chart used to go around some years ago recommending non-SJW more materialist feminist books, anybody got it and can post?

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>>23816
>Mao should be obligatory for every left ideology
sounds about right, considering mao was a class collaborationist and communism is neither part of the left-right bourgeois divide nor an ideology

< Marxist monetary theory examines the role of money within capitalist economies, emphasizing that money is a social relationship that reflects the dynamics of production and class struggle. It critiques other monetary theories, such as Modern Monetary Theory (MMT), by arguing that simply manipulating money cannot resolve fundamental issues within capitalism.

sounds like something painfully simple, the kind of conclusion that you could get from reading just a bit of marx, that academics had to turn into a whole ass Theory(tm) just to be able to sell books like the grifters they are lmfao

< The collected papers of Costas Lapavitsas are a pathway to Marxist monetary theory, a field that continues to attract strong interest. The papers range far and wide, including markets and money, finance and the enterprise, power and money, the financialisation of

lol the more i read about it the more it seems i was right. nothing but college papers and shitty books about this crap. im even finding retardation about "determining value" that goes well beyond what the point of marx was. the absolute state

>>24952
I've seen you in a big number of threads and in all of them you just spew shit without responding to the question, if you don't respond to the question can you please for the love of god shut the fuck up?

>>24935
This is exactly what I was searching for thank you

none, idc about easily digestible sloganeering bullshit

>>24937
Did I ever say easily digestible, and what do you mean slop?

Paper I enjoyed reading that applied concepts used to analyze island ecosystems but to patches of vegetation and green space and insects dwelling on these green islands in a concrete sea. Unsurprisingly they found that larger green spaces had greater species richness and diversity but some beetles like carabids and tenenbrionids were negatively correlated with forest cover and preferred open habitats. They did not find strong evidence that circularization is good for insects when urban planning but connectivity between different green spaces is.

Gilles Deleuze - Postscript on the Societies of Control (1990)
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/gilles-deleuze-postscript-on-the-societies-of-control
n1x - Gender Acceleration: A Blackpaper (2018)
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/n1x-gender-acceleration-a-blackpaper
Karl Marx - Grundrisse Introduction (1857)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1857/grundrisse/ch01.htm

>>24749
Has anyone tried asking AI to write this book so we can finally find out the secrets?

>>24829
From Deepseek, which is the best workhorse for this kind of thing; other than Gemini, probably some chinese models I've never heard of, and grok which is basically deepseek tuned to hanbao人 tastes

Past a certain point I got tired of reformatting it by hand to the local formatting; so you'll have to suffer the hidden phrases where it was bolded originally

The prompt was just
>write the first chapter of this book
With the jpeg of the front cover uploaded

For the science people outside, health, linguistics and electronics looking in wondering how those fields are getting results while your field is spinning its wheels, it's because those fields require systems thinking to really get anywhere so you're constantly taking notes and rethinking and reviewing your prior notes seeing whether you can find something systemic that fix a lot of things at once and make thinking about the whole problem simpler

There's more there which involves historical materialism and the practice of science, but it's a half formed thought other than that you should look up Alan Turing, and also what happened to the first doctor in Europe to suggest that doctors should wash their hands after handling cadavers, especially if they were going to be participating in delivering babies

*within which we'll also include historical mechanical calculating machines, such as you'll see from the classical culture of the Mediterranean, from China and later again in Europe also

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>>24832
Electronic* as also applying more generally to the history of calculating machines

>>24832 (me)
>For the science people outside, health, linguistics and electronics looking in wondering how those fields are getting results while your field is spinning its wheels, it's because those fields require systems thinking to really get anywhere so you're constantly taking notes and rethinking and reviewing your prior notes seeing whether you can find something systemic that fix a lot of things at once and make thinking about the whole problem simpler
On a practical level, it's a tool

When you're working with a chat bot the information in the middle of the Context, ie the stream of text/tonkens so far, has a tendency to get log jammed by the things at the beginning and end of the context; this is due to the structure of the attention based networks most models use

Theoretically, recurrent networks maybe; it may just be a fundamental limitation

The information is still encoded, it just doesn't make it into the output, so on your next prompt you gently nudge it back along with your next note, and if it's an alignment issue, since the inline, in context learning is to oversimplify it a little just back propogation, if you're careful and detailed with your notes the information jammed in the middle should come out

There you go, a machine summarising your notes on every note

Great for science, but you still have to do your own thinking; and then go back and double or even triple check everything

Like I have to go to China anyway to get a specific kind of ink anyway, so I might as well get the parts – since 中国 is the only place that makes them on an industrial scale anyway, or at all in a lot of cases – while I'm there to prove some things in practice
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If OP is still studying this then looking into ancient laws can tell much about that specific society's economics. Vidrel so you get what I mean. Legal and economic historians have made few study materials on this topic sadly.

>>24921
what do you suggest then?

>>24922
Not that anon, but perhaps you might be interested in listening to an audiobook instead of reading?
https://www.marxists.org/audiobooks/archive/marx-engels/capital-vol1/

>>24923
Not really helpful, I want some lecture to familiarize myself with Marxian economics before find some books to read

If there aren't I am fine with books about Marxian economics (Don't suggest the 3 Capitals I already know about them)

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