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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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Since /leftypol/ is downright autistic at times I decided to make a Debunk thread where anticommunist arguments are presented with their debunks by users.
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There are no search bubbles on the booru…


???? who said anything about the booru


>People Don't Read Anymore
<all this time used by other things
Not to mention the impact social media has had in rapidly decreasing attention spans. It's really fucked up, but a prole unable to concentrate or think critically, or educate themselves, is a prole easier to control for porky. Reminds me of Kurt Vonnegut's Harrison Bergeron (https://archive.ph/pofEg).


Video by DemocraticSocialist01 (currently renamed DemocraticMarxist01) debunking anti-Che rhetoric.



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If you know French or German, please contribute a chapter to /leftypol/'s first crowdsourced translation project! This project started on >>691.

The book is Karl Kautsky's history of the French Revolution, originally published as Die Klassengegensätze im Zeitalter der Französischen Revolution in 1889. Coming from the "Pope of Marxism", as Kautsky was then known, this text likely had an immense influence on Lenin and other revolutionaries of his day. It was approved by Engels himself, and may have been foundational in establishing the Marxist theory of bourgeois revolution, yet it has never been translated into English. The original German is available here: https://www.marxists.org/deutsch/archiv/kautsky/1908/frev/index.html and an old French translation is available here: https://www.marxists.org/francais/kautsky/works/1889/00/antagonismes-table.htm

What makes this work especially good for us to translate is that it's relatively short - just around 60 pages in total, divided into 10 chapters. With each chapter being 5-7 pages each, it is conceivable to translate a chapter in one day's volunteer work. Comrade Akko has already translated the preface, and is working on chapter 1. That leaves 9 chapters to complete:

Preface: Complete!
Chapter 1: Second draft complete (French)
Chapter 2: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading complete (English)
Chapter 3: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading in progress (English) - Proofreader needed
Chapter 4: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading complete (English)
Chapter 5: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading complete (English)
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Chapter 8: Complete! (Copyrighted work, permission secured)
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Went ahead and subbed it myself


no, the book Kobzar


Oh. I didn't hear anything about that.


This children's cartoon is literally how grown ass adults in Yurop and Murica actually see this crisis.


kiddie things for infantile people

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hey folks im looking for book recommendations for the economics of market socialism
like actual econ books not philosophy or anything like that
Im having alot of trouble finding them so can you guys help me out a bit


Comrade Xi's works seem apropos here


im more looking for free market anti capitalism type of economics like mutualism or even titoist econ might work


is there any mutualist economics books?
it seems like all theory to me


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Are there ANY books which deal with Marxism and theology that are NOT Protestant-centered?

So basically, books on Marxism and Catholicism/Orthodoxy, Judaism, Islam, Paganism, etc.

Don't tell me Kautsky.
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Is this schizoposting?


you dont
marxism is the worst kind of socialism




There's a lot out there actually.


Cockshott doesn't understand dialectics lmao, terminal case of angloidism.

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I'm in a pretty big dilemma.

My boyfriend claims he is interested in Marxism, yet has an incredibly negative outlook. He believes there will never be a revolution, all narratives of a grand redemption are a lie. He's also swallowed the western Buddhist bullshit (mixed with absurdism) full force; basically, he believes human existence is inevitably empty and absurd and that any attempts at building something bigger and better than ourselves is a mistake. He has a history of depression so that definitely informs his views as well.

He's also a huge fan of Zizek, whom I despise.

The two of us read books together, mostly on religion (Buddhism obviously) and psychology. I'm looking for Marxist texts that we could read together that would shake him out of (or at least question) his bullshit. Namely, I'm looking for books that have both 1. a generally positive outlook on communist revolution or building the communist project, 2. present a strong case for Marxism against rival/bourgeois ideologies, and 3. is philosophical.

Any suggestions would be great.
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ok - do you have any thoughts in your head about the rest of what I said? I didn't post the dalai lama just because i like him, i posted it because he's relevant to buddhism


You need to unfuck his understanding of philosophy first, and he's not going to jump into Capital (who would without being somewhat convinced of its use first) so that leaves other philosophers and history books. Similarly there's not point throwing any serious Marxist philosopher like Althusser at him because he hasn't read Capital, it'll just go over his head. That leaves:

Nietzsche or D&G. Deleuze is the safer bet. You can also just say fuck it and start with the greeks, skip Plato, read the illiad and then Aristotle.

A soft history book written by a Marxist could be good light reading, like Howard Zinn or TJ Clark for Art History.


Oh if I were to recommend a "Marxist" book it'd be Capitalist Realism, it's kinda retarded but its a good polemic against western mental health and Fisher is a good writer.


> capacity for cooperation
I tend to meme this shit hard, but if you want an actual corollary to > survival of the fittest look no further than everyone's favorite communist fanfiction author Kropotkin. He spent years in fucking Siberia showing that cooperation is just as important as competition in nature.

Don't read the bread book though, its fanfic tier.


How will reading Deleuze unfuck him?

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Everyone tells me Penguin Classic's translation of all of Capital is the best around but what about the rest?

- Paris Manuscripts
- Germany Ideology
- Civil war in France
- Feuerbach
- Gotha
- Grundrisse
- Wage labor and capital
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Don't get the Penguin editions of Capital
They have batshit book-length intros by random scholars pushing their own interpretations, the translations are unnecessarily pedantic and unreadable, and the print quality is awful even for Penguin Classics
They didn't even try with the third volume, where they pretty clearly used what look like photocopier scans for some reason, with triangular black splotches at the corners
Just get the International Publishers editions, or the Wordsworth edition of volumes 1 and 2


the first penguin volume has intro by Ernest Mandel whos economic writings were well received by Guevara but he polemicises against the value form critique pushed by Michael Heinrich and predecessors.


All three intros are Mandel who isn't some who lol. They are terrible photocopier prints with shit bindings though.


The value form critique didn't even exist lol, it has some origins in the work of Rubin from the USSR. Everyone before that (like the second international) believed value was created in production and realized on the market.


We're going to read and then discuss a book by leftypol's favorite historian: Dominic Losurdo! We'll be reading "Liberalism: A Counter-History" starting next week, October 10, 23:00 UTC. We will be doing Chapter 1 for this first meeting!

Join us on Matrix/Element: https://matrix.to/#/#leftyread:matrix.org

<One of Europe's leading intellectual historians deconstructs liberalism's dark side. In this definitive historical investigation, Italian author and philosopher Domenico Losurdo argues that from the outset liberalism, as a philosophical position and ideology, has been bound up with the most illiberal of policies: slavery, colonialism, genocide, racism and snobbery. Narrating an intellectual history running from the eighteenth through to the twentieth centuries, Losurdo examines the thought of preeminent liberal writers such as Locke, Burke, Tocqueville, Constant, Bentham, and Sieyès, revealing the inner contradictions of an intellectual position that has exercised a formative influence on today’s politics. Among the dominant strains of liberalism, he discerns the counter-currents of more radical positions, lost in the constitution of the modern world order.
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This book seems extremely stupid, granted I haven't read Locke but it doesn't take a world genius to point out that a political philosophy based on a transhistorical morality would of course be contradictory.

That's like Engel's whole fucking point in Socialism Utopian and Scientific. Hell it's a common reason why people bash on Kant and prefer Hegel.


Same, it's 1 A.M. where I live and I have to go to work the next morning. I'm already reading a couple of books right now so it's alright, I'm going to focus on what I've already started, but keep this in mind next time, 23:00 UTC basically means no one in Europe with a normal sleep schedule is going to join your reading group.


burgers BTFO


>‘The Liverpool Courier, 22 August 1832, estimated that three quarters of Britain’s coffee, fifteen sixteenths of its cotton, twenty two twenty thirds of its sugar, and thirty four thirty fifths of its tobacco were still produced by slaves.’57 In sum, we should bear in mind the candid judgement of two eighteenth century British witnesses. The first, Joshua Gee, acknowledged that ‘[a]ll this great increase in our treasure proceeds chiefly from the labour of negroes in the plantations’.58


wow this book is depressing
whoever came up with "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds" really missed the mark
fascists are more like liberals doing what they always did but wearing clown costumes

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This canal will make the Sea of Azov (over time) become a freshwater lake, while the Canal acts as a man made river. Cities like Rostov will still remain port cities but will have access to lots of fresh water.


How is this going to transform the Azov sea into a freshwater lake and why would you even want to do that? This isn't an arid region so water supply shouldn't be that big of a problem.


Do it


Crimea is aird

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I'm not 100% sure i should post this here but i was directed to here from the QTDDTOT, Do you know any good books from a conspiracy orientation that debunk the jewish conspiracy of the jews being behind it all, like Behold a Pale Horse?

"I give lectures all over the United States. At some point before, during, or after every lecture, some well-meaning but misguided soul, tells me that I have it all wrong and that it's the Jews, the Catholics, the communists, or the bankers that are the cause of all our ills. The target group is blamed for everything that has ever gone wrong. Power over everyone and everything is always attributed to this group - whichever group it happens to be at that moment to that person. These poor people are on the right track, in that there has been and certainly is a conspiracy to bring about a totalitarian world order. They are completely off track to think that any one ethnic, religious, or financial group alone could ever muster enough power to bring its plan to fruition. One group, you see, would always be opposed by all of the other special-interest groups that exist and have always existed throughout history. That is, unless they were all really the same group (the Illuminati) or for some reason they became unified (the Bilderberg Group)."


As the title says, I want to learn about economics from a capitalist perspective. Even if I learn economics from Marxist literature, which might be a truthful description of the matter, the terminology and ideas of capitalists themselves are still foreign to me. So which books should I read to get an understanding of economics from a capitalist standpoint?
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OP you can just read Smith, Ricardo and Keynes. I plan on doing it one day, but taking a break after finishing Volume 3.

Everything else as pointed out in this board, is ideological - the above are too, but they are giants nonetheless.

I would probably join a Keynes reading group of The General Theory, maybe Ricardo too. After seeing passages of Smith I really don't enjoy his writing, its more technical than Marx's and less insightful.


Also since I want to read Shaikh's Capitalism I need to go through an undergrad book of microecon, it's not hard by any means if you don't follow a graduate text - the one I flipped through looked like a graduate text on number theory in the first few chapters and the problem sets were not easy - just a necessary slog to understand the field.


Just started reading macroeconomics and I‘m pretty delighted. Exactly what I was looking for. His (or their) writing style is very informationally dense and it can be difficult to keep up with all the presented notions, but it was pretty much what I was looking for. Presenting different schools of thought, going into the historical development and the shortcomings of the status quo.


Thomas Piketty


Martin Luther once said: “if you want to change the world pick up your pen and write”; in order to be financially comfortable so one can spend the whole day reading and writing, one has to play the game and understand it— by owning assets (real estate, value stocks, government bonds) that give cash flow.

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