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I've recently noticed a weird mythology developing around the figure of J.R.R. Tolkien.

Specifically, you'll have content creators and other assorted internet weirdos take some small thing Tolkien did or said and construct an elaborate mind palace around it.

For instance, I saw people saying that Tolkien HATED Dune and it is because Dune is cynical, modernist and deals in moral relativism while Tolkien is a traditionalist who stands for firm morals and so on and so forth. And when you get down to the actual evidence for any of this, it was one letter by Tolkien saying that he didn't want to comment on Dune because he didn't like it very much as a courtesy from one author to another, with no further comment or explanation. Tolkien said he didn't like Dune, but never even gave so much as a hint as to why.

Or another is that he was a based tradcath who hated the modern corrupt church and its buckling to the forces of modernity or whatever, and the evidence for this is some family and acquaintances of Tolkien saying that he didn't like them taking the Latin Mass away and would stubbornly continue doing Latin responses during mass.

It's weird to see people try to turn this mostly mild mannered linguistics professor who wrote a couple fantasy novels into this far-right firebrand ideologue based literally on grasping at every last straw. Like, I saw some dude saying that the leftoids wouldn't like Tolkien if they knew what his REAL politics were with a Tolkien quote attached and the quote was literally just him saying "I'm Catholic." And Tolkien had stronger opinions about the translation of the word "hronrade" than any of the things he supposedly "HATED" in all these weird YouTube videos.
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Btw, I haven't even brought up Tolkien's influence by the eugenicist movement yet but it's very clear in his writings on the origin of the orcs.

The Lord of the Rings is not merely a story about good triumphing over evil — it is a theological fever dream of racial purification masquerading as high fantasy. Beneath the pastoral pipe-weed and the quaint Shire cheer lies a myth of moral and racial hygiene so absolute that it annihilates nuance itself. Tolkien’s world is divided not by ideology or class, but by blood and essence. Elves are angelic, Men are fallible but redeemable, Dwarves are stubborn craftsmen — and Orcs? Orcs are the damned: industrial, faceless, and irredeemably other.

The orcs are the colonized, the enslaved, the dark-skinned laborers of Middle-earth’s moral economy. Created through torture and corruption — a mythic eugenics parable — they are denied even the possibility of grace. Their every act is wicked by nature, their voices a cacophony, their speech mocked as gibberish. They are the brown masses upon which the shining West defines itself. When the “Free Peoples” march to destroy Sauron, they are not liberating Middle-earth; they are enacting a crusade of cleansing, a pogrom sanctified by divine light.

The destruction of the Ring — the so-called victory of Good — is the moment of absolute spiritual colonization. The Ring, symbol of power, desire, and autonomy, is cast into the fire not to save the world but to reaffirm that no subaltern hand may ever wield mastery. Power itself must be destroyed rather than allowed to fall into the “wrong” hands, meaning of course, the hands of the impure. Frodo’s journey is not redemptive; it is penitential, a pilgrimage of racial purity culminating in the ritual erasure of the very possibility of orcish sovereignty.

And the aftermath? Mordor burns, its peoples slaughtered without mercy. The text offers no mourning, no remembrance, no funerary honor — because in Tolkien’s theology, the orc is not a being but a blasphemy. The “new age” of Men is nothing less than the triumph of a monotheistic, agrarian, Euro-Christian order over the polytheistic, industrial, and “sin-stained” pagan realm. The orcs’ defeat is genocide written as eschatology — the total obliteration of the racialized Other as the final step toward divine harmony.

The world ends in pastoral silence, the machines stopped, the forges quenched, the “monstrous” races vanished. It is the peace of the grave — the dream of a racially and spiritually pure world. And in that silence, one can almost hear the ghosts of the orcPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>721609
>an interpretation that is famous for being used to create a theological justification for racism, colonialism and the slave trade for centuries
Oh, you mean the specifically American interpretation used by some protestants (mainly Southern Baptists and also the Mormons) that the curse of Cain manifested as dark skin? Well, then you'd think that Tolkien would have cited dark skin as an orc's most recognizable trait, which he doesn't.

Not to mention that this is a medieval idea specifically about monsters that far predates a colonial interpretation on a different continent.

>>721614
This is an amazing, herculean example of starting at a conclusion and working backwards.

It's almost a shame that it is almost entirely wrong.

>>721611
Eugenicists believed that there were people who were captured by Satan and imprisoned in Hell and tortured until they became monsters?



 

Name an internationally known politician and post their Stellaris Ethics

picrel

https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Ethics#Empire_ethics
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I always make so shit threads.

Now I sad

>>721598
stalin killed aliens?

>>721600
Oh please, he's just a sci-fi loving right wing liberal.




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tell me your most unhinged historical larpy sex fetish. don't tell me you have none, all imageboard addicts and history lovers have a few. sharing the few larps i caught in my lifetime

a girl fantasizing about being a european queen owning a harem of male slaves eating her out

a guy fantasizing about being a roman soldier and fucking boudica, or letting her take out all her anger and frustration on him with severe rape

being enlaved by dacian female raiders

fucking roman girls in toga while disscussing philosophy

being an icelandic skinny guy and getting captured and sold into gay slavery in the ottoman harem

young stalin

young drugged out hitler
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>>721361
god dang you got a thing for black girls


so you wanna be a king and cuckqueen a blonde princess with a hot black girl or a twink? this reads like the lore of some fear and hunger adult mod or a hellsing fanfiction, hot.

>I've read through whole thread and there are little to no people who have wet dreams about being the ruler of the state.


because all historical state ruler before the 1980 were monarchs and leftists in here disdain monarchs, don't want to be kings but chairmen or dictators

Ever since I was a child I wanted to be Cleopatra's slave and have her force me to lick her feet and serve her every whim :)

>>721712
Would you let her pee on you and would you also drink her piss?

>>721716
Absolutely, without blinking.

>>710365
the reconquista was mostly hispanoids (christian) killing other hispanoids (muslims)



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I understand that Hitler was not Christian in the was televangelists are and he was rather a Christian in the was Trump is because he really didn’t care about religion and just used the religion of the masses as a way to get what he wanted. But still I hate how people associate Nazism with atheism.
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thanks for giving me a stroke OP

Nobody associates them with atheism. Paganism yes, atheism no.

Do I have early onset dementia or is this post really this poorly written

Himmler: the first poljak

I usually see combo proTrump + Nazi + Christian, or just Nazi + Christian. Hardly remember atheists or even agnostic nazi



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https://archive.is/MdOjw

read this^ pretty interesting.

do you have aphantasia or hyperphantasia comrades? from the description of the article, it seems i have some spectrum of aphantasia. I cant visualize anything but I can pass the rotating apple test because the sensation is somewhat physical and as long as i can imagine my (imaginary) hand rotating it in my mind, i can sense the volume and texture of the apple(only abstractly it feels like a pressure sensation on the finger tips, nothing like the temperature of a real apple). i cant really recall the past but i differ from the people described in the article as i can feel my emotions vividly. People's faces and specific memories are incalculable to me and unless i see you often, youre not on my mind. I forget things quite often and the day is the only thing I can remember, although very terribly. after my grandmother's passing, i thought i was detached because i recovered so quickly despite my closeness to her, and even then recalling the emotions of the loss is somewhat hazy, although the "pressure" is still there. But it also disturbs me as it seems to be the reason why i am not bothered for days on end after seeing gore from genocides in Palestine and Sudan and other places. In the moment the images bother me, but I cannot seem to hold them in or recall them in vivid detail. It seems I could be "angrier" and I associated my loss of emotions SOLELY to cynicism. Like one women described in the article its like having sand rush through your fingers. The sensation was there and "real" but past a certain amount of time it becomes increasingly harder and harder to imagine. It seems so cool that hyperphantasiacs can allegedly recall colors and "edit" things in their mind. That seems to be the only thing that im jealous of as when drawing I often have to rely on references to envision the mood I want. The only way I can visualize things is through movies or drawing it out or through the occasional rare dream when asleep. Although the disadvantage for some folks is that its not like a movie where you can pause it, but something that just happens. Like apparently its invasive and can intrude onto moments of quiet when youre reading or just sitting there. I have ADHD and itd be a whole lot worse if I had that on top of my terrible memory and other struggles. It really does seem like, from the way described, the hyperphantaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

I don't think I have either. But I always struggled with geometry, I'm much more comfortable with manipulating symbols than with visual thinking.



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Americans, is everything okay?
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"sex work is work"

coincidentally did you hear about this recent news about anarchists: https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/jeffrey-epstein-ehud-barak-putin-israel-russia-syria-war-depose-assad

>>721594
Actually this is feminist and empowering, chud

>2500 + venue costs for a show you can slap ads on

>>721650
uyghas mix not being a retarded church dropout seething about sex and nudity in general with being supporters of a hyper predatory system with no filter or control like the porn industry.
its like being in favour of drugs so lets support narcotraffic, or in favor of guns so you have to defend weapons dealers.

Death to USA every day



 

How are you spending this Friday? Do you have any plans for the weekend?
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>>719982
When I used to go to movie theaters I hardly ever had the problem of someone I wasn't with sitting annoyingly close to me. Worst time I had in a movie theater was watching Avengers:Endgame 3+ hours in a crowded theater watching a movie I had very little interest in plus I got a phone call midway through that I had to answer. I guess at least I left the house. Maybe you jyst live in a bigger area than me.

>>719990
Its just the atmosphere of the place that sucks. I dont know, when you are watching something that is real movie, with artistic merit and such, it just doesnt belong in a shopping mall, in a cinema that puts insurance commercials before a screening.

Anyway, the movie was ok. First half didnt have much added value compared to just reading manga, but once the actions starts it does justify watching it on the big screen. I expected more though, the way some people on twitter whose opinion I respect were raving about it.

On the way home bough a can of Monster Ultra, a bag of chips and a pistachio ice cream, and will spend the rest of the night watching new civvie and Tamers videos on youtube.

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>>717939
Too bad.

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Im gonna spend today running around thrift shops looking for cold weather clothing.
I would like to go to halloween party, they seem fun. Dont know any and have nobody to go with, but still, maybe someday.

>>721599
I wish Halloween was real



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Is it true that leftists (especially socialists) believe that all people are equal? ​​If that's true, is there a leftist ideology that doesn't dickriding normies?
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>>721630
Just post it on >>>/siberia/ so more people will reply to your post im trying to help you…

>>721628
The left doesn't even believe it. If they did then the midget wouldn't need two crates in that meme. More seriously, Ben Studebaker wrote about it here:

https://benjaminstudebaker.com/2019/10/20/im-a-political-theorist-and-i-hate-the-equality-equity-chart/

Marx, Engels, and Lenin weren't egalitarians beyond that resulted from abolishing class. Marx thought the French Revolution demand for equality was fine for its time but outmoded by later, superior analysis (class struggle).

The old demands for equality were equality before the law, not demands for everyone to be literally equal but you'll definitely find a lot of Western leftie on that Harrison Bergeron shit.

There were some 19th century writers who thought wages should be more equal but Marx criticized that. He thought in lower stage socialism workers should be able to take from the common stock the equivalent of what they labor to put in. IOW, if you work longer, or harder, you'll be rewarded.

Bump

"normie"

By your logic the founding fathers of America were radical leftists.



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He was exactly right
You will not change my mind on this!

>You will not change my mind on this!
Then why start a thread?



 

I love this video because the entire comment section essentially says “He was right” kek

If you are going to post slop at least download it and upload as a video, so that the channel doesnt get clicks.

False

Stalin was wrong, he betrayed the revolution.



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