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 No.474197[Reply]

It's NOT called "The Byzantine Empire", you fucking barbarian. Its proper name is IMPERIVM ROMANVM (always all caps). Anything else is invalid revisionism (both in the historical and marxist sense) by KKKraKKKa westoids.
Do you understand?!
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 No.474576

>Constant war with Persians
>Never managed to fully subjugate Arabs
>Did take Egypt easily
>Disloyal elite guards who couped several times and nearly left the empire in ruins
>Suffered from stagnation and overextension
>Eventually fell to Germanic/Frankish barbarians

Ottomans indeed were Romans lmfao

 No.474611

>>474576
What is Turkey then??

 No.474636

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the ottomans were socialist

 No.474672

you will never be a roman. you have no rome, you speak no latin, you are a barbaric greek twisted by christianity into a crude mockery of civilizations perfection. all the "honor" you get is two faced and half hearted. behind your back your neighbors disrespect your borders. your ancestors are disgusted and ashamed of you. historians are utterly repulsed by you. thousands of years of history have allowed them to sniff out frauds with extreme precision

 No.474743

>>474672
take your ass back to your shitty italian lombard state you papist


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 No.468508[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Edgy general

Post edgy unpopular opinions that you have.

I think that we should treat sakaioids the same way that we treat nazis
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 No.474678

>>474675
Sir this is the unpopular opinions general.
I'd be disturbed if this was actually unpopular

Also, agreed.
These people say stuff like >>473996 , but have very clear exceptions.
Like pedos being a common one; and with >>473996 , trans people, which they'll slander by calling pedos.


>>474677
Lol.

 No.474679

The Grateful Dead were actually pretty good.

 No.474681

>>474671
The problem is that the concept ofa mental illness is applied to anything socially undesirable, not necessarily to conditions that make the individual suffer. Not only is that a slippery slope, it's also a form of institutionalized moralism alongside the criminal justice system.

 No.474682

>>474678
You'd be surprised how unpopular this opinion is on this particular site. Even on SJW subreddits its more popular than here.

 No.474742

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revolution always comes from an elite, and vanguardism is only successful because it outsources the revolution to intellectuals
organising with the proles as a whole is useless; the vanguard parties should largely only operate internally and popularise themselves by engaging in bourgeois democracies rather than demonstrations. today, popularity is power, and only mainstream avenues can do this including youtube, MSM and twitch.
the soap box is dead, or rather, transferred to new mediums.
selling your socialist "newspaper" in the town square is more pathetic than being an armchair communist tweeter.


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 No.474182[Reply]

The rate of profit reaching zero is not simply the idea that corporations become "unproductive" but that they actually increase production due to the use of technology or "labour-saving devices". This erases human input thus disallowing the extraction of "surplus value" (which is marx's idea of "profit" according from his LTV), not just the total revenue substracted from the costs of production.
This is why technology cannot create value and so produces the "constant capital" of the static and mechanical motion of robotics - this can be seen as the "quantitative" aspect of production whereas human "variable capital" is the "abstract" or qualitative aspect - creating a dialectic which erases the human, who stands as the "contradiction" in this system.
However, as more technology replaces humans, less humans are able to buy products, leading to crises of "overproduction" which become unprofitable. Here then, capital must use humans to sustain itself, even as it erases humans from its function.
To Marx, communism overcomes this by seeing humans as the directors of the machines of production, by techniques of automation with political devices regulating production.
Here then we see how capital is both the driver and impediment of production - this is why marxism is about unleashing the productive forces against the efficient inefficiency of capital.
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 No.474345

>>474335
With a robot if you want to produce more you need to literally invest more in it. It's different with human workers where you can force them to produce more labour than what you give them as compensation, machine can only give as much as you're willing to pay them; if you cheap out on equipment then you'll receive subpar results and if you cheap out on maintenance cost it'll break soon.

 No.474357

>>474345
>It's different with human workers where you can force them to produce more labour than what you give them as compensation, machine can only give as much as you're willing to pay them
That's just dodging the question by saying "it's the way it is because it's that way." Why is it not possible to build a robot that has labor power? This is not the same as mere equipment that breaks down if you don't put in enough money to maintain it (same logic applies to reproducing workers' labor power by paying them).

Consider in the most extreme case, a "true AI" as in an artificial general intelligence, or even further an "artificial person" (an android) capable of doing the same activities as a human. Does that robot not have labor power? From there, we can retract toward present technology and ask between that level of technology and what we have now, at what point does the computer become capable of performing labor?

 No.474736

>>474357
i think what he's implying is that the very process of producing androids in order to do slave labour is defeating its own point. how much money and research goes in to creating a person that is as sustained by wage labour as humans? and androids will also strike and bargain for wages, so it just reproduces the whole process of capitalism but with more expensive enemies. its against capitalism's interests to create robotic workers.

 No.474737

>>474285
>>474321
GDP isnt profit, thats why as debt increases, capitalism keeps declining. debt and its compensation increases GDP but its the circular process of paying off interest, not actually producing goods. thats why ironically forgiving all debts would improve the economy, since people would have more disposable income.
this is also why adam smith and the other classical economists thought that the market would lead to everyone owning their own home and deleting rents from the economy.

 No.474738

>>474357
A truck is tremendously useful for performing labour but it doesn't have labour power. Without a human operator it's useless. The same applies to any robot that is not sentient. They need human operators in order to do anything productive. Even if that's one operator to 1000 machines it still applies. If there exists a robot which can produce profit on its own with no human intervention, then it will have labour power.


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 No.474731[Reply]

marx was right about a lot, but not everything - especially considering that material conditions have drastically changed from his time, including digital technologies, the internet, television, nuclear weapons, robots, mobile phones.
many more classes than the bourgeoisie and proletariat have sprouted up due to the expansion of the means and modes of production, and the increasing specialised nature of many facets of modern life. the west has massively de-industrialised and is not going to return to antiquated models of the industrial factory floor being the basis of social relations.
this doesnt mean an abandonment of marxism, but an advancement from it - otherwise you will be stuck in the 19th century.
its not helpful to contemporary subjects to just say "read marx" as if this is the redpill that allows you to see the matrix of today's postmodern simulacrum - things really have developed and cannot be simply be disregarded as superstructural illusions hiding a binary class division.
so, learn to think about today's experience.

 No.474732

fed

 No.474733

>>474732
dogmatist

 No.474734

We already have Post-Marxism. With Laclau et al and all the post-structuralists. Analytical Marxism could be counted as a Post-Marxist movement proper, even Freudomarxism could be counted as Post-Marxism. There are just so many currents in Leftist thought its hard to keep track with all of them

 No.474735

>>474734
it all feeds into the progress of theory
and theory of progress


 No.474730[Reply]

Support Large Size liberation!

 No.474706[Reply]

'manga 'read

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 No.474700[Reply]

breffmints.

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 No.474466[Reply]

Is she a proletarian hero?
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 No.474554

>>474488
critical support to walmart for expanding the productive forces

 No.474557

>>474488
>how the world's biggest corporations are laying the foundation for socialism
for real?

 No.474658

>>474557
I mean technically, you don't get to socialism without having a capitalism.

 No.474670

>>474557
I'll be honest I didn't read the whole thing but iirc it was showing that planned economies already exist, and function efficiently, giving Walmart as the biggest example, as the company has a bigger internal economy than some nations.

 No.474673

>>474658
Marx said it could have been possible: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1881/zasulich/reply.htm


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 No.474515[Reply]

why is god so smug all the time ?
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 No.474633

>>474610
>write a filler episode with a character to job against you and make you look strong
>literally name him job
i'm starting to think that god guy might not be so omniscient

 No.474635

Sometimes i feel bad about the Abrahamic God tbh, imagine that whenever you create a sentient being they always revolted against you

 No.474639

>>474635
He did it intentionally so he can be the good guy

 No.474640

>>474639
yeah, it's a lot like playing with action figures. you decide who's good, who's bad, who wins, and who loses.
>>474635
he knew it would happen and designed it that way

 No.474654

>>474640
That's somehow even worse.


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 No.465780[Reply]

regardless of whether ghosts and gods and shit are real or not, would you rather live in a world where they exist or in a world where they don't?
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 No.474583

i'd be ok with it if i could talk to them and fight bigger demons with them like in smt

 No.474592

>>474582
Why gods though? I do notice recurring coincidences but why does it always have to be gods? Magick? Fine. But holy shit, our society is so theocentric, we always have to reduce everything to mythology instead of using our actual imagination. It's all just confirmation bias.

 No.474593

>>474592
Like, what if there is magick but no gods? Or what if those "gods" are more like the Old Ones or the Chaos Gods from WH40k? Look behind the surface of pure speculation and embrace the unknown.

 No.474594

>>474593
Basically, what I'm saying is, all mythology is pure interpretation, even if numeric sorcery really does work. Like, there's no logical conclusion to be made.

 No.474595

More things to study and learn about? Splendid.


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