/siberia/ - Off-topic

>>758931
???

>>758642
>Assuming it has a net positive effect for humanity,
Most of nature is net positive for humanity.

Thinking that you ought not to care about your natural environment because in the future, maybe, potentially, you hope so, it could be solved by technology, is techbro millenarianism. You should care about nature because you live in the present, not in some hypothetical potential that will most likely never come to pass.

>a bourgeois construct
The bourgeois view of nature is of a dead, inanimate thing that can be planned with and turned into commodities. There is no mysticism or fetishism about nature, it's part of the economic calculation the same way everything else is.

It's completely possible to care about sustainability in a purely rational & dispassionate manner based on both its short-term but especially long-term benefits for us humans.

>>758953
I didn't know you could predict the future. Do you seriously believe in this "harmony with nature" nonsense? We will have to learn terraforming to survive as a species. That's a fact, not a vibe. Also, my claim was never that we should bulldoze everything now. Obviously any transition to full on synthetic ecosystems for survival is going to be gradual. The equation is simple really - extract maximum utility from nature as we slowly progress to a post natural society. You say seeing nature as just raw material for commodities is a bourgeois construct - true, but I would say seeing nature is anything more than tools to advance humanity is idealistic, tree hugging trash.

just be wrong and stupid. u dont gotta be smart. of course it could alienate you but nearly everything does.

>>758808
I’ve always enjoyed non-fiction more than fiction, but considering this thread got many more replies than I thought I should probably consider your advice here. If anything, I’ve always liked historical fiction, like Ivanhoe.

>>758821
>No, I think it's because I'm subhuman and should kms.
>I wasted sn opportunity that few people get
I often think of myself this way too. But seeing other people say this just makes it seem so wrong. Part of my condition is that I wish I could just throw away hope wholesale, perhaps we all wish that, but we can’t.

>>758822
Thankfully, whether I want it or not, it’s not up to me.

>>758823
Thanks for the encouragement, anon. I think we all just hang around here because we don’t know what else to do, at least that’s how I feel. No matter how stupid I think I sound, I won’t get any better if I don’t take any criticism.

>>758837
>Part of my condition is that I wish I could just throw away hope wholesale, perhaps we all wish that, but we can’t.


As Bane from Batman: Dark Knight Rises once said: There can be no true despair without hope.

Hope is just idealism

>>758841
>This is either aliens or CIA.

Why do people always wanna blame aliens for any parapsychological effects?

They're organic mortal beings from other planets.

>>758874
Then they're not from other planets then.
Maybe they're astral beings rather than interplanetary beings

Once the AI boyfriend's start gaining harems it'll be over for chad.

>>758807
Have you ever thought that maybe women can be losers too?
Not all women are able to grab any hot guys they want, especially if they're single moms

>>758810
No

if you think about it, words, the written word and logos itself is what caused this.

we need to abolish language.

>>758817
Maybe a little but my nostalgia was shattered when I was still in school. I still prefer elementary school and working at one still makes me like it. Although I could see how people become child haters after working at a school but interesting thing is I also dislike children a little less since I'm around them a bit since they seem a bit nicer than expected. I think working at a middle school would be a bit worse since kids that age seem a bit more assholish. I think it gets a bit better in high school but overall I don't think I've experienced too much negatives with students at any age. And I generally get along with the staff even if I don't talk to them much. Maybe it helps that it's mostly women.

>>758827
>Although I could see how people become child haters after working at a school but interesting thing is I also dislike children a little less since I'm around them a bit since they seem a bit nicer than expected. I think working at a middle school would be a bit worse since kids that age seem a bit more assholish. I think it gets a bit better in high school but overall I don't think I've experienced too much negatives with students at any age.

I'm not talking about hating kids, Im talking about how adults fail to sympathize with kids having problems at school.
In fact, I notice that people who hate children are often the same people who romanticise childhood.

Also, children are not as comical or automatically assholish as adults think they are.

Also, middle school gets a bad rap for asshole kids due to how adults treat kids in that age group

>>758827
>Maybe it helps that it's mostly women.

All-female workspaces are not always harmonious.

>>758854
>Although I could see how people become child haters after working at a school but interesting thing is I also dislike children a little less since I'm around them a bit since they seem a bit nicer than expected. I think working at a middle school would be a bit worse since kids that age seem a bit more assholish

Interesting thing is, misopedia is more common in adults who don't have any social exposure to kids.

>>758827
I wonder why it is that hating children in general is acceptable but it's wrong to hate adults in general when adults do way worse things such as robbery, rape, war, and murder.

People get more upset about kids dropping F-boms than they do about adults creating H-bombs

we cant let a thread like this die

>>758714
Talking to yourself is not breaking any walls.

Malcolm is that you?

nothing will make me laugh like this again

>>757181
Metokur has been on youtube since 2007 so you could argue Sargon copied him, he just used different names in the past.

>>757149
It's not out loud funny, but I find it good when the guest is interesting. Like the Jadakiss and Norman Finkelstein episodes.

>>758023
people are not irony poisoned, they are just blackpilled.

the truth is too much to handle so memes and irony are a nice cope, along with drugs.

i think people need to create their own shit. make up new words, make up new spooks, follow the spooks and delete them at your whims, whether joyful or sorrowfully. its perfect for the age we're in right now, doesnt have to last forever, and we're already seeing signs of it across "high" and "low" culture (AI generated art and 67 meme respectively). in fact internet culture and memes are the backbone of this. You see a full spectrum from nazi apologists to anarcho-stalinism. Some may argue this is just aestheticism and id agree. But I think they should go further and just create new stuff. Atheism(big jump here bare with me) has no rituals, no fun stuff that other religions do besides fiction and many rituals seemingly were done out of survivals sake to cope. Atheists and the seculars should strive to create new meaning . Literally. Just make stuff up and pull from the world and other fiction and stuff. Cults do this but they wanna stick around forever. Why stick around? Let it pass but might as well make it up. Doesnt have to be fun either. Right now capitalists take up all the creative juices and rituals and thats why you see cult-like fandom spaces attached to certain properties. Maybe its too late but i think creation is the best best against the nihilism we all feel and why so many fall off the deepend back to religions because no one is filling that creative niche of meaning. And religions got plenty of material to fill the mind.

>>758293
The problem is that it's impossible for trivial, mass-produced art created by boardrooms to re-enchant the world. It needs to be special. 99% of the art that the average person engages with is forgettable even to them, and only the remaining 1% gives them a taste of what real creativity and talent can accomplish. Yet people experience this but don't break from their habits, they don't go on to pursue that magic in other places, at most they deify the one work of art that has ever done this for them and join obsessive fandoms, shutting their minds from everything else. And if you do break from the path, you're pretentious, because why can't you let people enjoy things??
(And yes, all of this is not materialist and the real Marxist take is that alienation is the problem, but I don't care.)

>>758630
Art is a fraud. Its only use is to launder money. Is a bourgeois prejudice just like family and culture that needs to be destroyed
.

>>758748
on the off chance that you're being serious i need you to know that you are dangerously retarded and should die

>>757788
prison is just locking them up without taking advantage of the labour

>>757802
The thirteenth ammendment abolished slavery except as a form of punishment and also, obviously, not wage slavery.

>>757788
chattel slavery is everything prison is but worse, that anon's post was insanely hyperbolic.

Don't tease me like this, I wouls love to have a chuddie boyfriend to piss on >.<

>>757745
This. What's sad is that it's the law abiding citizens who have to pay taxes for their welfare .
And the fact that criminal types aren't separated. Shoplifters get mates with serial killers.

So when you get out, you have more bad habits than when you went in.

I'm straight and i would suck hasans cock once

>>758497
What industry, and what do they have to gain from giving him influence?

>>758638
If you're a man and you would have sex with Hasan, that makes you extra turbo gay.

He is so easy to clip out of context

>>758638
I'm gay and would suck his cock 3-4 times a day if I could
I would drain his hairy balls dry

Impregnate your sister NOW.

What about aunts

>>758654
fucking kek

Nothing wrong with a little cousin loving. I used to bathe with my cousin.

Hatred of cousin love is a remnant of 20th century public genetic health panic, aka the eugenics movement. Theres no real concern unless it's done like a medieval royal house arranging marriages of cousins for 7 generations.