>>834597Do pre-industrial societies count? e.g. Zapatista territories
Why is Lenin considered a universal expert? They were instrumental in one revolution in one empire, and that's a wealth of real and valuable experience but not enough to declare general statements like OP has framed them. The kind mr illich would have shot everyone here for being a big headed cultist, the kind of idol worshipper who would mummify a fucker and put them on display for 100 years.