/siberia/ - Off-topic

I choose the red button because postmodern society has failed me and I have become embittered

The first time I saw this hypothetical I didn't even understand what the dilemma was, it was just
>press the button that increases the chance of mass death for seemingly no benefit
or
>don't do that
Blue seemed obvious until I stumbled on other people discussing it. After that I thought I had reconciled the contradiction between the best choice for an individual and the collective with a strategy where you publicly advocate for blue but privately press red. But I guess at that point if you fail to sway enough people then you've just convinced a bunch of people to die, so.

I have a feeling my initial reaction would be fairly common, and depending on how much time there is between the vote being announced and held, the ideal strategy would involve suppressing as much as possible the people spreading pro-red cognitohazards. As far as "everyone lives" thresholds go I prefer 50% to 100%.

>>779257
I press blue. The game theory angle seems reasonable until you remember that the people society needs to function are more likely to press blue, such as medical workers and engineers while retarded business majors, instagram influencers, politicians and peasants in shitholes like syria that have loyalty only to their clan would press red.
I fully expect the vote to come out as red. A place like Syria would come out as 95% red because they have loyalty only to their family clan, not to the higher idea of the nation, nevermind humanity. A lot of the world still operates like this. Strong families = no societal cohesion and trust = red. So Arab countries, Africa, India would all be very red. There is also the cultural factor. You know every single American patriot will press red because their whole thing is that they are special snowflakes and statistics don't apply to them. I don't really know enough about East Asia to say it would be red or blue - they supposedly have a strong conformist bias, but also they are very mercantile societies.
But every society will still lose a lot of the most educated and critical people.

>>779631
I have a desire to continue my life, my conscious experience. Once it is over there is no more for me. It's like the only thing that can bring me genuine value. And so if I do have a possibility of surviving in a world, even one where circumstances are very dire, I would like to take my chances with that before just giving up and dying. In any case if it does become too much to bear there's always suicide, though I doubt I'd ever want to do that.

I would also fix your life being sober in whatever is slighting you before you do any drugs if you decide to do that

>>779489
Seems like its only feelings you need to fix and not a real problem.

>>779690
thats depression really

>>779684
who said i'm talking about pharmaceutical drugs? i'm talking about stuff you find in the black market, or stuff you grow yourself. It's much cheaper and more potent

It does feel like this sometimes

yes

>>779481
>says "israeli" rather than zionist
you glow moshe

>>779451
>not ideologically against killing just want to neet
They are actually ideologically against it and the existence of Israel, as paradoxical as it may sound.
They believe the purpose of Jews is to be wandering people, and that it's against the word of Yahweh to try to create paradise on Earth. They also point out Jews lived rather fine with Muslims in Palestine before the creation of Israel, even if they had second-class citizen status like…everywhere else. That said, I imagine they have material benefits to stay in Israel, since they can get NEET shekels to study the Torah.

>>779543
>They are
are you from 1940? It's 2026, most are Zionist now.

>>779413
Israel is a highly collectivist society. Marriage and family are still staples of everyday life there. Jews tend to be more communal in general.

>>779667
They also have free healthcare and a lot of government planning + the kibbutz but ultras will say it's not real socialism

Dudes old af now and pop music is being churned out at a million miles an hour while people dissociate into the cloud with their microgenre algorithmic echo-chambers there isn't really any pop classics that circulate for decades

I’m glad Weord Al retired. He needs time to recollect his energy. He already made a bunch of parody songs to make multiple box sets.
Or at least a flash drive worth of music.

Let him end his artistic skill on a good note
Most bands that last more than fifteen years usually start to flop in their artistic merit.

Artists need to find different ventures in life. They shouldn’t stay stuck in one venture.
That’s how you go stale.

>>778881
Weird Al made parodies of big, culturally impactful pop hits.

There are no more big, culturally impactful pop hits.

>>779193
I thought normoids still had those, like The Weekend, Ed Sheeran or Kanye West.

>>779194
Kanye is more known for his schizo personality these days his songs don't seem to have staying power unless people are deliberately into music

>>779634
China is so much better, why do people continue to dickride the japs? Japs have only stolen from China and made things worse.

>>779635
Even Taipei doesn't get this dickriding from westerners

>>779635
Chinese culture is such that people want to experience so badly they'll even praise a shadow of it, so they'll tolerate a nation defined by war crimes and pedophilia if it means they can enjoy some 3rd rate bootleg stolen copy without admitting how the anti-Chinese propaganda was BS.

>layers of roads stacked like some futuristic videogame
<like every densely planned city ever
>look at le expensive cars
burger moment

>>778484
The real problem is society doesn’t value solitary recreation.
Recreation is seen as mandatorily collective

>>778476
Take showers every day and talk to your family.

>>778629
Stop making me do sociology reading on the meme board, i finished that years ago

there is no political solution to things that aren't related to money, resources and violence.

politics and economics exist to feed you clothe you and house you in the least fucked up way available, the reason you should care about politics is because you want a society with good material conditions, rightoids tricked everyone into thinking politics can cure a broken mind, it can't.

>>779435
Critical theory implicitly championed the idea that all the alienations and -isms and -phobias and mental illnesses (and even humor) are antagonistic excrement of capitalism and once capitalism is gone those things are gone as well. So the idea that politics will fix broken minds isn't exclusive to rightists. But critical theory goes a step further, because it rejects "humanity" as a transhistorical category, implicitly suggesting that for example, after capitalism, there will be no more crimes of passion. And they were writing this stuff decades before incel terrorism, which is predicated on the inherent inequality of free-for-all dating, which Marx somehow never anticipated even if he understood that economic coercion in his time "chained" women and men to each other.

>>779176
American women are disproportionately overweight and the hot ones are eugenicists with brain worms

>>779144
1913 was the creation of the Federal Reserve.
But things went wrong way earlier than that.

>>779180
>feudal aristocrat
party bureaucrat*

just like china, ameriKKKa is divided between pornographically wealth cities and regions where people dont even have running water.
the deep south might be a third world country on its own

>>779126
>the greatest country on earth
>amerikka
delusional