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I wasn't around for the 8chan days, I found this site probably around 2024. Used a lot of reddit forums but would constantly get banned for being too violent. Went out searching for somewhere with less rules that was specifically for leftists and found this. This site is far far from perfect but it's pretty much the only thing like it on the internet that I've found
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>be me, 10 years ago
>in undergrad
>antisocial philosophy student and oldfag 4Chan anonymoose type anarchist from back when 4Chan was basically a left-leaning politically before it got astroturfed by Stormfront and Jeffrey Epstein to stop the revolution if would have ended up accidentally creating
>hear about 8Chan because of gamergate
>go to 8Chan for the alt boards because sick of the growing /pol/ monoculture on halfchan
>see they have /leftypol/
>still here because I have never developed into a human being

Found it in 2018 or 2019, probably through kuroba if i recall correctly. I didn't start posting much until bunker. It makes me a little sad that I seem to have missed the window when this site wasn't filled with sectarian quoteminers

>>788524
>Any other oldfags that can give a description filling in the blanks of 2015 and 2016?
I may be looking through nostalgia goggles, but I remember there being a much larger diversity of opinions, a far greater tolerance for disagreement (i.e. people were chill about it instead of vulgar and hostile), and generally much higher effort discussion. One random thing I remember that would be unthinkable today is that there was a Hungary '56 flag, which was included because there was a substantial number of posters who viewed that movement positively. Additionally Stirnerposting and Bookchinposting were extremely common. I remember that there was always at least one thread up at all times in which MLs and Leftcoms would be trading long effortposts with sources and quotations from Marx, Engels, Lenin, Bordiga, etc. to back up their views. Ultimately, as an ML I think that the predominant opinions of the board have actually become more correct, but at the same time the quality of the discussion has dropped dramatically. I suppose with the establishment of a broadly ML orthodoxy it becomes easier for people to be dismissive and hostile towards differing opinions, plus they rarely have to actually defend their views leading to the decline in effortposts.

heard 8 chan had a lefty version of pol around 2015, visited, didn't really post, just kinda lurked, came back after it moved here to its own site and stayed, mainly because the rest of 8chan sucked

Found it thru bunker mag years ago



 

Iran has posted tons of AI slop videos and way to many to count so I will only do the ones from this Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@AI_iraan
>S- Tier
These are Gems, Super catchy and their Choruses are insane, frighteningly true, catchy, and hilarious
>A-Tier
Really good, just not as good as S-Tier
>B-Tier
This would have been in S-Tier is they didn't mention Germany as one of the countries America "Ruined"
>C-Tier
In my opinion none of these deserve this tier
>D-Tier
Okay its a really really goof Rubio diss track but it makes me feel uncomfortable.

I don't watch AI slop unless it is porn.


>>788420
theyre all s tier ngl

>>788880
It’s the only ethical use of AI




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🧠🧩/Autism/🧠🧩
Discuss political topics related to Autism
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>>788877
What is there to answer, your "when did you start beating your wife" bullshit?

>>788878
"Sorry, I'll stop pretending to be disabled" Or at least explain to me how pretending to have a disability is a moral good.

>>788881
I'm not pretending. But you will never accept that so it's pointless for me to try defending myself.

This is not respectful to other people who want to use this topic though, so I'll stop, please go ahead and have the last word if it will make you feel better.

>>788882
You can't even prove it, sad !

There’s no such thing as disability at all, you’re just weak willed.
>but I have no legs
Because you’re a bitch, grow them like everyone else does



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Rightwingers won
Rightwingers dominate
Trump won
Epstein won
The elites won
You lost
And you will lose forever
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>when you see a delicious muffin just standing on the table seemengly untouched with no one around for miles

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>>788844
one thing consistent with all right wingers is the use of projection, you tell me to cope, we know its just a self report - this is your personal blog thread chuddy, we are not here to vent, just to call you retarded.

>>788790
More like total liberal victory. Both left and right got blown the fuck out by bourgs.

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>>788865
Heh.. yeah that's right.. the international financial elite won against all odds.. Both left and right.

There is no greater masterrace than this.

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>>788865
>Both left and right got blown the fuck out by bourgs.
MIGAfags thought picrel meant billionaires lost



 

Since the old one was deleted. Remember to spoiler pics.
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>>785465
Any requests?

>>788657
Thick dragon ladies

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>>788669
By "dragon ladies" do you mean more like the right or the left?

>>788680
Probably more like right

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>Possession isn't nine-tenths of the law. It's nine-tenths of the problem.
wow



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Come molti di voi sapranno il Giappone ha un grosso problema in comune con l’Occidente, che è la denatalità.


I giapponesi non fanno più figli e in molti si stanno interrogando sulle cause di questo fenomeno. In questo articolo (https://archive.ph/BEcaT) ad esempio la ragione principale viene individuata nella difficoltà chehanno i più giovani di trovare un lavoro stabile e remunerativo.
Qualcuno però la pensa diversamente e sono i redpillati che vivono in Giappone, come quello che ha scritto questa risposta (ubermann su reddit) che mi è capitata sott’occhio e che ho deciso di tradurre (non dal giapponese, era scritto in inglese lol) perché penso sia molto interessante:

>Vivo in Giappone. Questo articolo è una stronzata ed è completamente fuori luogo. Ennesima prova che questi professori universitari non sanno di che parlano.


>Per capire come mai qui non si facciano più figli, esaminiamo alcuni punti riguardo al Giappone:


>Il Giappone è una società incredibilmente ginocentrica che mette le donne sul piedistallo in ogni aspetto della vita. Entrate

gratis nei locali (dove i fessi pagano anche 40$), sconti ovunque dai teatri ai bar, diverse serate per donne durante la settimana ecc.
Nessuno qui letteralmente si aspetta che le donne paghino per qualcosa, anche se hanno un buon lavoro e fanno un sacco di soldi. Sono andato ad appuntamenti con donne con una buona carriera e si aspettavano ugualmente che pagassi io il conto. Ci si aspetta semplicemente che le donne non paghino, punto. Indipendentemente da quanti soldi abbiano (nota: alcune pagano per loro stesse ma è raro, ed è inversamente proporzionale al loro aspetto)

>Il sesso avviene ovunque e non c’è nessuna stigmatizzazione sociale. Ci sono perfino hotel speciali (“hotel dell’amore”) che le coppie affittano per poche ore solo per scopare. Questa libertà comporta che le donne ignorino il 90% degli uomini e si scambino fra di loro il restante 10%. I Chad giapponesi stanno beccando più figa che mai, mentre i beta Taro sono relegati alla sezione porno dei negozi di DVD. Le donne giapponesi cavalcano il *cazzosello più a lungo delle occidentali, e non è raro trovare ventenni di Tokyo che hanno avuto un numero di uomini a 3 cifre.

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>>788764
>Or because they're disgusted by it, due to how they're treated in porn.

Mainly they’re disgusted by male reaction. Women still watch porn and make it for their own satisfaction

>This is still a minority amongst women.


A “minority” that isn’t as small as you think.
Especially within the past fifteen years.

>I think there are other issues due to this (mostly impossible expectations really), but this bothers me a lot less then porn addictions.


How?
If anything it’s not “impossible expectations “ but rather that society patronizes male youth sexuality as bad, condemning them for daring to show any ounce of libidinal energy for meatspace females.
So it’s safer to express psychosexual energy with fictional characters
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>>788764
>I'm also opposed to most pet ownership, it often feels that for a lot of people, a dog has replaced the need for a child, and can't understand that dogs are mere animals.

Humans are mere animals too.
The problem is that humans expect dogs to be humans in quadrupedal form.
A lot of dogs suffer from behavioral and developmental disorders due to excessive artificial selection and premature and forced obedience training. And lack of autonomy.

Also the funny thing about dog worship is that the same people who fish over dogs hate children. Yet, dogs behave more messy and stinky than actual children do.

The worst part about domestication of dogs and cats though is spaying and neutering.
I can understand if it’s for hormonal or pathogenic issues, but it’s mainly done out of moral convenience as soon as the dog or cat comes of age


> More generally dog ownership is associated with very selfish, hence the whole "dogs are better then humans" or the "dogs can sense bad people" (Except Blondi apparently)


Funny enough a lot of serial killers were fond of dogs. Charlie Manson, Adolf Hitler, Son Of Sam, etc.

>>788767
>Mainly they’re disgusted by male reaction. Women still watch porn and make it for their own satisfaction

Most dont, I think the stat is 13% could be some underepresentation.

>A “minority” that isn’t as small as you think.

>Especially within the past fifteen years.
It's inscreased lately, but it's still a minority, in any case, some women like viewing themselves as objects, it doesn't really change my point.

>How?

Same way you see the same shit with celebrities, people living in fictional worlds and can't handle humans relations but only relations with an idealised person, it's something most grow out off.
>If anything it’s not “impossible expectations “ but rather that society patronizes male youth sexuality as bad, condemning them for daring to show any ounce of libidinal energy for meatspace females.
This doesn't happen tho, hypersexual men are celebrated, it's well seen to have had a lot of sex as a man, if anything, it's sexual women that are shamed.

>Why are you using May 1968 as the reference point?

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>>788772
>This doesn't happen tho, hypersexual men are celebrated, it's well seen to have had a lot of sex as a man, if anything, it's sexual women that are shamed.

Half true
Hypersexual men are celebrated if they have other machismo traits.
If an obsess nerd was hypersexual, society would call him a sexual offender waiting to strike. But if you’re a hip hop artist that plays football, being a hypersexual dude is seen as a natural given.
Also hypersexual women are only criticized out of pretense

>It's inscreased lately, but it's still a minority, in any case, some women like viewing themselves as objects, it doesn't really change my point


I think you’re coping that women don’t fit into your paternalistic view. Women do watch and enjoy porn especially more so nowadays and some some even make porn of their favorite fictional characters

>It's the point where society openly embraced the liberalisation of sexual relations, but it's more of a referance point over a large phenomenon, rather then a specific month where everything changed, it's been a longer phenomenon.


Society hasn’t really openly celebrated sexual liberalism. It was only a cute bohemian fad for boomers.
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>>788772
>Same way you see the same shit with celebrities,

Celebrity worship involves worshipping a meatspace person

>people living in fictional worlds and can't handle humans relations but only relations with an idealised person, it's something most grow out off.


Using fictional characters as an outlet for your psychosexual energy isn’t a bad thing and in fact ought to be encouraged

If anything, it’s people imposing their preferences onto meatspace characters that’s the problem. And most are vanilla anyways. That in itself ain’t a problem.
The problem is that people think themselves as open minded when they’re easily disgusted with anything remotely nuanced. Especially if it’s in meatspace format.



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Janice Fiamengo is one of the go-to “researchers” among MRAs when it comes to citing an “expert” on feminism to the extent that one of her articles got hosted by kosher right outlet PJ Media and, despite MRAs circle-jerking over her, most feminists have barely heard of her. Indeed, I can only think of one feminist response to her, and it amounts to just an answer post at Quora: https://www.quora.com/What-arguments-do-you-have-for-or-against-Professor-Janice-Fiamengos-view-on-feminism/answer/Frederic-Christie?ch=17&oid=27190247&share=dd688188&srid=3gfRuZ&target_type=answer

I should also note that, in spite of her many interviews with various outlets across the Canadian and American right-o-sphere, she still remains an obscure figure and you’ll never see her ever debate her views on video. Hmm, wonder why? 🤔

I wouldn’t talk about her if it wasn’t for the fact that she is one of the most cited female apologists for the manosphere, and her audience is mostly made up of run-of-the-mill chuds and MAGApedes who circle jerk over her as shown by how almost every result shows her works whenever you type her name on search engines.

Now, while I’m unfamiliar with her academic work in English literature back when she was professor of English at Ottawa university, I am familiar with her anti-feminist polemics and overall right-liberal takes on other matters.

So, first let’s get out of the way and say that she does point out many flaws in the history of feminism such as the disdain towards men shown by even some of the first-wave feminist figures, the elite-driven nature of feminism that runs contrary to the rugged individual image common in the mainstream, as well as the anti-social behaviour they display since the second wave.

But with that said, that’s where my praises for her ends, since I’m really critical of her since despite her facade she is merely an ideologue that uses factoids to spin a narrative that fits into the chudintern’s incessant culture war paradigm.

A key example would be her take on Emmeline Pankhurst and her mail bombing campaign that led to her arrest, as well as her securing female suffrage in exchange for promoting the BriPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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effortpost that should be on the main board tbh

>>788624
Done: https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2828514.html#q2828514

Hope that the mods delete this thread whilst keeping the copy on the main board.

>Janice has to ignore both how historically then and now feminism has often been a tool for western imperialism that only ends up with disempowering global south women who weren’t already part of the upper and middle classes

Therefore we should never criticize misogynist cultures and countries? Or the criticism should only come from women inside those countries? (Who will be called CIA or Mossad anyway)

Also can you actually give an example of feminism being used to "disempower global south women"? Not in a vibes based way, but an actual example of feminism causing the disempowerment of global south women.

>>788687
The point is clearly one of obfuscation on Janice’s part since she engages in idpol to discredit the Axis of resistance overall as part of a broader support for US imperialism. Indeed, at no point has she or other “Progressives but not for Palestine” types Janice might be at home with ever criticise the IDF’s rape and killings of Palestinian female civilians, nor the US bombings of Iranian, Iraqi and Afghan civilian women.

Indeed, even during the GWOT, you’d be hard pressed to find any of the feminists supporting the GWOT ever condemning war rape committed by US and other western armies.
As for feminism itself, its status as part of the imperial power process and its use by global capital to divide worker’s uprisings is well-known, so feminism is complicit in the capitalist exploitation of global south women.

I’m not even sure why I have to argue such an obvious point. Are you a liberal by any chance? Because I need to know if I’m arguing with an actual leftist or just a liberal.

>>788687
I don’t think you understood OP’s point which isn’t really about the merits of feminism per se as much as that Janice Fiamengo grasping at straws to paint an ideological narrative of feminism as anti-western (whilst ignoring evidence and counter-examples to the contrary) makes Janice less of an impartial scholar and more of a partisan hack who acts as an apologist for the western right, especially given her penchant for idpol and playing on white male grievances (legitimate or not) to keep white men from escaping the right wing plantation.



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are "rights" real? Do they exist?
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not physically. but they are as real as ideas are real. as real as any other social construct is. as real as communism, justice, mathematics etc.

>>788751
Some social constructs are real. Others aren’t
Also what you mean is abstraction.

>>788754
can you provide examples of what a fake vs real social construct would be?

Obviously. Saying otherwise is pedantry.

>>788755
The racial categorization we have used since the seventeenth century especially in the US

“White” in America is ethnic elsewhere

Or how about phrenology?
It uses a lot of abstractions that aren’t real.



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What do you guys think of General William Tecumseh Sherman?
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it would've been better if the Union had lost. two weaker burger states at odds with each other would've been better for the world.

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>>788511
I'm more of an August Willich guy

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>>788700
Willich my beloved

>>788689
As a general rule, fuck alternate history, but I don't see the Confederacy surviving to the modern age. One scenario I think sounds fun is that they're secession actually ends up leading to a Haiti style slave revolt and Haiti ends up with a powerful ally in the American south. But there's no way to know.

>>788689
no it wouldn't, what would have been better, though was if the north was far more vitriolic to the confederates and decimated their troops, their cities, even executing every singular one of their generals



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