/siberia/ - Off-topic

>>776186
>comparing the worst of the present with the best of the past isn't putting your thumb on the scale, it's "having eyes"
ok buddy

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It's because of problematic Media/Content and Makers forcing problematic s*ggs scenes unto everything to groom minors into christofascism and/or gender ideology.

>>777135
csm (and jjk) is quite literally the best of the present tho. And Sakura isn't really the best of the past either, if I wanted to be a real dick I would have used Maccross Plus or something. Tourist.

I think this song is a good demonstration of the difference between then and now.

Back in the days, you of course still had retro fads and nostalgic people, but retro fads never eclipsed the new culture, and these super nostalgic people were these comical oddballs, not the entire fucking culture.

>>779718
thats why i do it

>>779399
huh, female sexuality used to be heavily pathologized, and Im sure it still is

>>779379
this

>>779815
>>779811
That's why I stay away from women. I don't want to seem like a sex pest or a burden.

why is blatant misandry okay, but misogyny gets chastised by all of society? stop being so hurtful to the large majority of men who are good and upstanding people just because there exist some heathens among the human population. it's not right.

>>779838
Same for misopedia or hebephobia

you should end it but not because you wont be that

>>779825
You're saying…
There's still a chance?

>>779741
Because of the anthropic bias, an LLM can talk like us therefore people start to think that it's sapient

>>779736
>If we take a materialist look at the state of affairs, animals are an increasingly irrelevant part of how the world functions.

I'm sorry but this is a staggeringly ignorant and myopic take, please don't abuse the word 'materialism' like that

Without animals we would all die pretty much instantly along with the rest of the biosphere of the planet. The moral weight of their existence is also much higher than that of humanity itself, arguably. At the very least it's a lot higher than fucking LLMs.

>>779743
The point of p-zombies is not that you should doubt the consciousness of the people around you, it's that since it's conceivable that someone or something could exhibit consciousness without actually having it, there needs to be an explanation for consciousness besides just the external appearance of it. There are still other good reasons to assume other people are conscious that aren't affected by the concept of p-zombies.
>>779745
Well of course, it's just funny that any pretense of this being a rational scientific argument goes out the window when you consider that it's entirely about the computer giving human vibes rather than the mental processes behind it.

>>779682
this dude is mad jelly that a schizo like jordan peterson could get so much clout so quickly, so he's schizomaxxing to try and replicate that success for himself. that's my theory, anyway.

>>779747
I don't know how you say "moral weight" so soon after "materialism". One of the important distinctions of dialectical materialism from other ways of seeing the world at the time was that whatever we consider moral is not that relevant to what actually happens.
Animals used to be a lot more relevant in human life. Almost everyone used to interact with animals, even royalty had their horses. By now the only animals most people in modernized areas interact with in a regular fashion are house pets. AI algorithms are, by contrast, an increasingly important part of human life and the trend started long before LLMs. They alone are completely wrecking the communicative sphere at the very least.

Personally, I've been through all of that. For primarily aesthetic reasons give or take I would say the 80s, but at the same time I feel like it's about time we move into a dystopian future. It would be a dystopian future because we haven't fully realized a post-marxist society, that's not full flown communist tankie style soviet.

I'll try to explain the 90s to you. Basically, there's a difference between the recessions and the economic booms. The current economic model, and I guess it would be the result of capitalism, is designed so that booms and busts (recessions) are inherent to the economic system. It's cyclic basically, it's predictable and you can expect it for sure. It's a part of the system. I can't remember at all at the top of my head but I'll try my best I guess. During the industrial revolution era is also when capitalism became more widely spread.

There used to be this really old fashioned style and aesthetic. I don't remember right now where it all comes from originally, but you can look at parts of Europe. It was just popular for some reason. Due to the economic boom of the 1920s, it became more nuanced and celebrated in a way. Like there was fashion, culture and style in certain places during the 1920s for sure, fast forward to the 1930s, the style from the 1920s is still there in a sense, but it's changed quite differently. Well. I should say it was not just style like clothing but architecture even as well. It was just about everything to an extent. What happens with the 1930s, they basically start trying to change everything, they strip everything away, the lighten everything up, and they take away a lot of the feeling from the world and environments around us.

But what also happened is that there was also this way of living, mentality, belief systems and culture surrounding recessions, (even though capitalism was still new to an extent) but really it was also just basically poverty culture. Because being poor basically is what a recession is. If you are out in the cold, and poor, hungry, whatever. You are in some type of recession more or less, even if it's not like that for everyone around you.

But than flash forward to the 1950s and the style that was used for so long, (who knows how long it was really, like I said it dates back to the 18th century at least) is just forgotten about, and they change everything. It's an economic boom, and it's way different. It's hard to really say what was diffPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>779652
I need to time travel to 2050 China. This timeline sux.

I just came back because I wanted to elaborate more on the 90s.

What I said was kind of a simplification. I am quite well versed in pop-culture and art in general, and I even like architecture. It's really hard to establish a contingency when talking about this stuff though, I have found people will think all kinds of wild things and it's aggravating because I have managed to established some kind of credibility or factual knowledge. But I guess I'm not listened to very often in general for some reason. I think it is almost because I am too good or something, but than you can't be like Don Quixote, or you'll be considered "crazy" or laughable. But the 90s were unique in many ways, I've studied the style that was around in the 90s, and it was quite eclectic and varied, but when people talk about the 90s, they usually mean the early 90s I think. The rest of the period was kind of undefined and not as memorable.

But it still has roots in what I mentioned, it's basically neo-liberalism, the third world, and the 1930s culture. You really see how they've progressed it. Well, that's what I'm uncertain about. Neo-liberalism started in the 70s…so it's been around for a while. Well, I don't want to ruin the 90s, but that's basically what a lot of what was going on back then culturally and socially was about. It's hard if this was what the original counter culture movement really was meant to become.

But back to the 90s. I think the alternative and underground music scene in the early 90s was really, really good. That was great. I've followed the 90s a bit, and looking at it back than, trying to understand it through the eyes of the underground music scene, it seemed like it was really the start of a new era or something. Gen X was coming of age, and I thought it was interesting how they brought back hippie era sentiments from their youth, but with a tad more cynical and maybe bittersweet reverence. But that kind of served to become how the early music scene was defined and represented, but you see that's how the mainstream media wanted it to be more then anything. A lot of the more notable and influential acts were really trying to do something different. They had a different way of looking at things, acting and thinking. But it didn't last very long for some reason. Well, it just stayed underground I guess, but it wasn't burgeoning, it was a thriving scene after a certain point.

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But I'm not entirely sure…

I just think it was like the fucking 80s for me a bit though but I really liked the early music scene, the music was really good.
That's just what the difference is between mainstream artists and real and independent ones I guess. The 90s had really good rock music, but does their need to be really good rock music all the time? but the 80s had bands like this.

I guess I've just decided not to accept what it is with the third world, neo-liberalism, and the dirty 30s. I know it's what people want to think is liberalism or something but I just don't fully accept it. But I just don't accept a boom necessarily either. It's just god, how do we decide how resources allocated a bit? I just think, production isn't bad entirely, I have to be on the side of production a bit. I don't want to live in a grey, boring and bland monotone homogeneous world. I don't want to take the workers jobs away from them. I just think of really unique cars or something, well, we won't have any cool sports cars or anything in the future, we'll have just have boring bland grey and white big SUV monster cars that all look the same. If you like or want something with a bit of flair or personality, than you can't have that for sure.

I just think people should be allowed to go at their own pace a bit. That's why I almost think it's the third worlds fault a bit almost. But I don't know their must be some type of solution. I just don't agree with taking away or limiting freedom so drastically.

Most people living in semi-healthy societies (not the US) are not radical, yes

>>779657
Yep they are in power in most European countries.

>>779657
The only commies nowadays are neoliberals. They were the real movement that overthrew the (former) present state of things (social democratic welfare states).

>>779726
>overpopulation
There isnt population growth outside of sub-saharan africa.

This image is too titillating delete it right now. I'm fond of highleg clothing.

>>779749
What is the materialist reason why sub-saharan Africa is the only place where women are giving birth more than the rest of the world?

>>779775
Poverty and religion.

>>779775
Women's education and access to contraceptives. Rest is irrelevant bullshit. Not even Islam can save birthrates in Middle East.

>>777677
> If you suspect you might have some mental issues go see a psychiatrist,
no
>pursue women.
faggot

>How do you cope with living the rest of your life as a passive observer, drifting along while everybody else accomplishes things?
Alcohol, nicotine, thc, vr porn, guilt fantasies of my family finding my dead body.

Getting a career and enough money for women might take homie like 10+ years. I've been looking for a new job for two years and I have years of experience, a degree, currently employed in my field and industry certifications…and I still don't currently make enough money to be able to pursue women.

>>779744
It was never meant to be I suppose.

>>779744
>don't currently make enough money to be able to pursue women
you've almost certainly let the internet poison your brain regarding how much money you need to pursue women

>>779577
the functionality of racism, that is to say its ideological application, can be logically altered to apply through an individualistic lens. in other words:
>1. group A has attribute ABC
>2. said attributes are inherent and cannot be divorced from any single member belonging to that group
>3. said attributes are grossly negative (laziness, unintelligence, etc)
>4. furthermore, group B has attributes XYZ
>5. said attributes are grossly positive, and furthermore characterize anyone who exists in said group
>6. therefore, all members of group B are inherently superior to those of group A
aside from the fact that this logic is irrational on the basis that operating under it would make one prone to mistreatment by anyone who leverages their membership in group B to gain undue trust or preferential treatment from other B members, this logic can also be applied on the individual level by supplanting 'group B' with the self. in other words, it'd be easy to simply say
>only I belong to group B; only I possess positive attributes; everyone else belongs to group A
>I am very smart and surrounded by idiots
if such logic can be brandished in this manner, it would be a grave threat to whatever political movement it's being used to facilitate, and it is true that we in the West live in a culture of extreme individuality. thus, racist nationalism is a bulwark against the individualism of the 90s and 00s, as orchestrated by epstein and his rich friends, so as to brandish the anger and potentially destructive nature of populism against the populace itself, rather than have it be used against the aforementioned wealthy people.

There's no war but class war
Reality is raw
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>>779590
/thread+ OP should just hop on the robotabs wave

I mean 'I aint cleaning that **** is not a reason to lose a dollar general.' Closed by the becken fcc

>>779577
Use the fucking drug board >>>/420/

I actually caught the guy in court today. He pooped in the store so that i couldn't enchant it. The store that is. Sorry to uyghurs.

I choose the red button because postmodern society has failed me and I have become embittered

The first time I saw this hypothetical I didn't even understand what the dilemma was, it was just
>press the button that increases the chance of mass death for seemingly no benefit
or
>don't do that
Blue seemed obvious until I stumbled on other people discussing it. After that I thought I had reconciled the contradiction between the best choice for an individual and the collective with a strategy where you publicly advocate for blue but privately press red. But I guess at that point if you fail to sway enough people then you've just convinced a bunch of people to die, so.

I have a feeling my initial reaction would be fairly common, and depending on how much time there is between the vote being announced and held, the ideal strategy would involve suppressing as much as possible the people spreading pro-red cognitohazards. As far as "everyone lives" thresholds go I prefer 50% to 100%.

>>779257
I press blue. The game theory angle seems reasonable until you remember that the people society needs to function are more likely to press blue, such as medical workers and engineers while retarded business majors, instagram influencers, politicians and peasants in shitholes like syria that have loyalty only to their clan would press red.
I fully expect the vote to come out as red. A place like Syria would come out as 95% red because they have loyalty only to their family clan, not to the higher idea of the nation, nevermind humanity. A lot of the world still operates like this. Strong families = no societal cohesion and trust = red. So Arab countries, Africa, India would all be very red. There is also the cultural factor. You know every single American patriot will press red because their whole thing is that they are special snowflakes and statistics don't apply to them. I don't really know enough about East Asia to say it would be red or blue - they supposedly have a strong conformist bias, but also they are very mercantile societies.
But every society will still lose a lot of the most educated and critical people.

>>779631
I have a desire to continue my life, my conscious experience. Once it is over there is no more for me. It's like the only thing that can bring me genuine value. And so if I do have a possibility of surviving in a world, even one where circumstances are very dire, I would like to take my chances with that before just giving up and dying. In any case if it does become too much to bear there's always suicide, though I doubt I'd ever want to do that.