/siberia/ - Off-topic

>>821030
>that the 1st world countries are developed because it exploited resources and pillaged other countries thanks to colonial ventures and military hegemony, on one hand, and that Western people don't have any benefit from this.
Even if the colonial powers as a whole developped massively from imperialism, the average westerner only get scraps from it that are getting more and more scrapped by Western Porky who already more than his fair share of loot from colonial ventures. Maybe that's where the apparent contradiction comes from.

>>821039
>the average westerner only get scraps from it
That is up for debate. Yes, that is what the Left wants to say, that only Porky is benefiting and nobody else, but if you shut the flow of goods mitigated by hegemonic power, then the average westoiid would be probably out in the streets with a torch and pitchfork going to the politicians–so in reality they are much like fledgling birds being fed with their mouths open.
I said that average joe might be morally repulsed by the idea of industrial farming, but the influx of food is also supplied by animal massacres. A vegan would want to stop that and if vegans got their way and stopped total animal death… then it would be torches and pitchforks.

I'm the Arthur Schopenhauer of the monarchist world and Lavader is Hegel.

>>821043
>but the influx of food is also supplied by animal massacres.
I only give a shit about the environmental impact of industral farming and if the animal was abused during it's life. I do not care about pigs and cows dying to feed humans as a concept. But for decent treatmemt of animals (kind of like how they treat cows grown for wagyu) and significant reduction of environmental harm you would have to reduce production and therefore consumption greatly.

>>822394
>What independent criteria determine when a religious text should be interpreted literally, metaphorically, historically, symbolically, or allegorically, and are those criteria applied consistently even when the result is unfavorable to the believer's preferred conclusion?
There is no independent criteria. The only criteria is the needs of the religious institutions at any given moment. And religoids either don't know what those words mean, or they are part of the priesthood and they know that religion is social engineering.
>>822409
>most of the bible is misinterpreted by christians
there is no static correct interpretation. Correct interpretation changes with the times based on the needs of the religion.
>>822406
>i mean if we had perfect knowledge
no such thing
>of the circumstances in which the texts were written
the old testament was written in the iron age by a city dwelling priesthood, well after the legendary exodus would have taken place. it was not written by "bronze age goat herders" like the 00s neckbeard atheists insisted. the new testament was written in late antiquity by greek speaking judeo-roman aristocrats with an interest in spreading a pacifistic 5th jewish philosophy that would be more compatible with the needs of the roman client state in judea than the esoteric essenes, the militant zealots, the fussy pharisees, since the sadducees were the most compatible with roman imperial rule, christianity probably had its origins as an result of that group's cooperation with romans.
>we could probably answer that question. it's not necessarily true that if parts of the story are symbolic none of it can be treated litetally, plenty of other kinds of text especially artistic ones freely mix figurative and literal writing
none of it is particularly figurative or literal. what is considered figurative and literal changes with the particular conversation and what the needs of the religious institution are. this flexibility is a feature, not a bug. things are allePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

the epicurus quote is alright but I prefer carl sagan's 'dragon in my garage'

phew i was seconds from becoming an atheist but then a really dumb child on youtube made a bad argument using a book in the bible that didn't exist and now i'm christian again

>>822596
>the epicurus quote is alright but I prefer carl sagan's 'dragon in my garage'
the religious cope for sagan's garage dragon is that god is not part of the universe, the universe is an artifact of god. the universe itself is their proof that god exists. every single thing in reality is proof god exists. there's no need to throw flour on the floor to catch the dragon's footprints or spray it with paint to catch it floating in the air. for the religoid, god is not a dragon in someone's garage, he's the very principle that made the universe possible. he's the only explanation for how something could come from nothing. now when you start probing about why he has a gender (male) and a name (yahweh) and a chosen people (jews) and arbitrary physical appearances (burning bush, pillar of fire, etc.) in some stories… well then they start pulling out the allegory cope, or they just say god can do whatever he want, including decide his own gender (which is funny because that's pretty trans if you think about it, even though religious conservatives don't usually think humans, created in gods image, can pick their own gender even though god did).

>>822197
There were critics of the Greek notion of God in ancient Greece, like Xenophanes.

>>822404
cute

>>822421
I also made this a couple of days ago but my IP range is banned from 4chan so I guess I'll post it here instead

does this do anything for you furries

>>822579 lmao

>>822853
he has kind of a dad bod, not really my thing

i can kindof see it

>>822739
>How is snoopy a beagle? He's the least beagle looking dog i've ever seen!
Black and white beagles are real, just very rare. Besides, drawings are not and can not be a 100% reflection of reality.

The droopy ears you moron

>>822822
A lot of dogs have droopy ears

what else would he be?

>>822542
liberalism and the enlightenment happened because FIRST intellectuals intellectualized and tought about the world, monarchy ended because some armchair fags theorized, then of course they did violence and revolution but without the theory all of the revolts would have just been peasant revolts that resulted in monarchy continuing to exist.

>>822562
let people do political action without an ideological framework and that is how you get hitler.

>>822529
>That's a weird take seeing as how theory doesn't do shit. Action does shit, it just needs theory to guide it, but even then theory needs action to form it. Stop being such a nerd.
It always falls apart to idpol or some dictator. Be class conscious!… no, no not in that way no that's wrong!

>>822563
>let people do political action without an ideological framework and that is how you get hitler.
Exactly

>>822576
>>822562
action still comes first, you can't theorize about shit that no one knows anything about, that's retarded.

>>822729
Generally, I'd say before one can act, one must make an analysis of the situation: how can one act if they don't have an idea of how to get from point A to point B through their actions?

In the precise context of this pyramid however, I think the base should indeed be organizing. Organizing the workers is the most important thing. Even if you fail to come up with the theory needed to bring Revolution to fruition, someone else won't. If the workers are organized, they will be less fallible to the predations of Capital, and more prepared for the Revolution.

Then, you figure out how to get from point A to point B, but theory is useless if you cannot put yourself in a position to make use of it. Holding the keys to the rule of the Proletariat has no use if you have no way to get to the door. And the way to put yourself in that position is via the organization of the workers.

>>822749
I don't understand… Post more pictures?

>>822752
eh, Elk-bro was first male character introduced later into FEH who had an actual design (in Book 8? I think), wasn't killed off after a season and people actually liked him. Despite the fact, that (even though fairly tame compared to girls in FEH) he doesn't look like "generic japanese guy" and has miniscule traces of sexualisation.

I am nominating him precisely, because other games do guys like this pic, and it clearly panders do the gays instead (not that I mind it, I love it).

>>822761
>I am nominating him precisely, because other games do guys like this pic, and it clearly panders do the gays instead (not that I mind it, I love it).
No, I meant sexualized characters done by female fans, that's something new. I don't mind characters that pander to gays either but it's not the same.

>>822762
Yeah, as far as I am aware Elky had some female fanbase, so it would be easier to filter out fag art and focus on fan art. I am not sure if fujo fanart can be trusted though.

You think THAT's big?

>>822539
Because there's nothing shameful to have come from an online discussion forum that freely debated ideology, history, politics and socio-economics without pussy-footing around a subject. Fags were called fags, nazis were called nazis (and the term actually meant something more than "rightving I don't liek". leftypol was created because /pol/ became a rightoid echo-chamber and stopped being that.

sage for offtopic

>>822537
The caricature isn't literally how people talk!?
Don't be so blatantly obtuse, your mask is slipping.

>>822513
>edgy
It's an accurate summation of liberal and /pol/yp identity politics and their performative nature relative to communists/socialists that reject idpol for the glowie-cancer it is.

>>822813

that sounds like some shit someone who got into IBs thru 4chan circa 2016 would say

like, you're not wrong but you're acting smarter than you are

>>822836
>circa 2016
<you're acting smarter than you are
/pol/ went to shit way earlier than 2016, you're the one pretending to be smart.

>will the revolution be televised?
No
>what do we have to lose other than our chains??
Nothing
>has war changed???
Yes
>will something happen in the future????
No

It should, but the revolutionaries in charge will be moralfags (a good thing) and keep it on the low
Nothing
War, war never changes. (I can't make the mgs4 script with leftists edits sorry)
There are decades where nothing happens, and weeks where happenings congregate

>>822666
I think this dude was trying to get into a boy band but got caught with All Qaeda instead. He was to embarrassed to leave so he just went through with the plan.

>>822573
it sent a cloud of asbestos outward for miles

>>822573
>i think the yanks were done a favor tbh
by who? the bush administration and their wahhabist-zionist allies in the middle east?

bad taste

>>822755
also he didnt show up to work the day of for some odd reason. its such a coincidence that so many rich people forgot to show up to work on that fateful day

I think the closest equivalent moral panic would be the long-standing “x minority are borgeousie because of this reactionary person I found of that group”
You don’t really see this with serious theorists though.

How does spirituality work for Marxists?

Do Marxists even have spirituality as a dimension?

>>822368
didnt adorno hate it bc it could be " mass produced". man he'd hate soundcloud rappers