/games/ - Games

>>6412
really? you really didn't enjoy the deconstruction in stanley parable?

>>6408
/v/ermin cry about "walking simulators" but are perfectly fine with kusoge VNs.

>>6422
Talking simulators

>>832
All the hidden traitors games that are getting popular lately (project winter, among us,…) are just objectively worst versions of The Resistance: Avalon

>>6402
Yes. It doesn't detract from >me&lt the consumer but it takes away a whole layer of creativity from the artists game designers.

From a mere development perspective, balancing different difficulty levels take away time from the devs, improper balancing can create whack situations like lower difficulties being the actual hard modes, or easy spreadsheet methods that invariably makes "hard" a synonymous for tedium.

From a more important perspective for me, I think making games too hard for no reason, or too easy for no reason, takes away from the intended experience. Creative people craft different scenarios with certain emotions and reactions in mind and difficulty certainly plays a big role in that. "This guy is your rival it sure would be a bummer if you could one-shot him while underleveled", "this stretch in the game punishes your mistake very hard to drive point home how dire the situation is for the heroes", "this area is meant to be a huge skip if the player can deal with the difficulty spike".
If you can just lower the difficulty slider or give yourself god mode at those points at will, then what good was it all for?

I think our disagreement here is that you seem to see games as mere products; if they're too hard you can't consume them and therefore they've failed at their task, akin to a fast food meal that's too hot to eat immediately. I wholeheartedly disagree with this approach, just accept that hard games are hard and either improve or move on imo.

>>6340
Why do people equate a not living board with a dead board? Why are we such defeatist bunkerchan?

>>6342
Because they're newfags and doomers

sounds good to me think itll take a bit to pick up activity cus this is one of the more dead boards on bunkerchan

I would join your group if it was on Matrix.

>>6500
In anticipation of posts like this, given the popularity of Matrix on bunkerchan, we have been considering a Matrix bridge to the IRC channel. I think there are some user consent issues to work out though: even though Matrix isn't Discord, it still represents an added layer of logging not normally present on IRC that some users may object to.

>>5014
Pepsi-fag spam would make /v/ reee as much as /pol/ would reee about commies modding their vidya about killing "le sandn*ggers"

Is there any reason to listen to the retards who claim cod tried to pin the real highway of death on Russia

>>6498
they let you nuke the west with american nukes so, maybe?

>>5014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KbBDC6i_a8

Can't ever take COD seriously anymore after this video (not that I really could before but hey)

WE BOUT TO GET STUPID

>>6504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk0RkkACfdE

Now I just wanna post more montage parodies. Those were the good times truly.

>dirtbag left
You're very obvious

>larping
go back to /pol/ rightfag

>>6396
Probably wanna remove the dirtbag left statemnet

Can I make my own nation state?

The mods over there are just as cancerous as over there.
Litterally banning the word two in some convenient contexts.

Best game to roleplay an Amish Jeffersonian democracy with Khmer Rouge characteristics?

>>6458
Dwarf Fortress.

>>6466
kek

>>6463
Based game tbh

>>6463
>>6458
Pretty sure you can nail the feel better with Rimworld.

>>6479
The exceptions to this being Outer Worlds, Disco Elysium and maybe No Man's Sky

I think it's a really good game about managing a small community of individuals with different skills, needs and personalities.

Pretty barren but it is a really good platform for modding with lots of open space for turning the game into whatever you want, from making a colony of raiders moving across the planet and razing settlements to exploring the stars in your handmade spaceship and fighting the mechanoid hoards.

Warfare in RimWorld is fucking terrifying because every warrior is a guy you have spent hours with, you understand their importance, you know of their relationships, you understand their personalities and if they die there's a true sense or loss there.

Vanilla is pretty barren, but there are excellent mods for this.
Much recommended for any leftyanon

The only good thing about Stellaris is that it conforms to the leftist worldview (ironically, porky Collectivism equals Authoritarianism versus Individualism equals Freedom equals Entrepreneurship was overtime changed to Freedom equals Egalitarianism and Communism, Private business equals oligarchy)

The game, however, was broken by later patches. It's overcomplicated and requires tedious routine, but also doesn't have any variance at all. It's perfectly balanced, but due to being overcomplicated and drawnout doesn't work out for multiplayer. Like every other 4x strategy game, it seems to think that throwing a billion different menus and mechanics at players is an acceptable substitute for actual fun. Even if I don't mind it breaking the KISS principle, the issue is it doesn't get anything from it. The reason for their design is to try and make it a "real sim of a sci-fi galaxy". It awfully bungles it, as none of the systems are actually in any way deep. Its just a bunch of puddles that haphazardly get dug with each DLC.
For instance:

It would be cool to have each empire be ideologically or culturally different…
But in practice this is done by barely noticable gameplay wise (unless they are op) traits that have no effect on the procedural "story".
It would be cool to have politics of your empire…
But in practice its just a tab that you farm influance from that has no narative response to your actions.
It would be cool to have space trade…
But its just a simple pact with a flat income boost and a non-specific value resource that maybe atracts pirates if you are stupid and can't play the game right.
It would be cool to have your empire evolve over time…
But all the outcomes in the civics are predecided, you just choose when to unlock them.
It would be cool to explore the Galaxy…
But there is zero randomly generated expedition sites, so you will see the same shit each game.
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>>6482
Huh, so what is this? A collective review? That actually sounds like a rather iteresting idea. We could do something like "/games/ reviews X" and make compilations like this. Weird how this one fits together well.
Also bonus points for making me feel somewhat insane, as parts of that were posted by me, so I had this weird moment of "wait… did I post this? Why is it bumped up? And did I also write those other parts?"

>>6484
To be honest I noted that the Stellaris and Rimworld threads were basically dying since the topic is too specific to stay alive, so I proposed making a single Space simulator thread for smaller games that aren't relative big shots like Outer Worlds. I compiled the best posts, edited them a little and added my own two cents (or old posts).

Your idea holds quite some merit however

>>3909
It's not so much that they're bad, but that they aren't good.

The main thing you get out of buying and using an RPG somebody wrote, aside from incidental setting "fluff", is rules, especially for conflict resolution and world generation. But rules in storygames invariably boil down to "make shit up", just like little girls holding a pretend magical tea party, thus the epithet "MTP".

Now, there's nothing wrong with using MTP sometimes, there's even a discreet reminder about it in D&D with "rule 0". The problem is, every child already knows MTP, so anything written inside a published tabletop RPG must be different from and superior to MTP for at least some tasks, otherwise it's just a book full of "fluff" instead of a functional RPG.

Aside from weak or outright nonfunctional rules, however, actual rules and guidelines typical of storygames are also corrosive. For instance, fate points and narrative control disassociate players from their characters, and discourage detailed worldbuilding, in favor of vague worlds that leave room for limitlessly escalating bullshit:
>the wolves press you to the cliff's edge
&lti jump off
&ltso you fall to your doom?
>*burn a fate point* *POOF* *a branch appears*
>no, i grab a branch and climb back up after they leave

>>3922
I see, hey, so Burning wheel is a storygame, but it's like a thousand pages of rules and shit, what say you?

>>3922
think it really depends on who you're playing with and what kind of person the dm is

Any DMs willing to start an online /leftypol/ D&D campaign?

>all this discussion
&ltnobody even plays
MFW

>>6379
Also what the fuck is the point of recruiting a getaway driver that is the second best driver in the car?

>>6374
>>6379
>>6393
R* really didn't think this one through properly, also that's the issue with R* game design in general in that a poorly designed mission can make you really hate its character even if they're otherwise okay, same thing happened with Zero and his missions in SA.

>>6374
Only now do I see how similar he is to El Grando Smokio

Another bad Goichi Suda game full of terrible mechanics but trying real hard to be cool.

>>6368
>trying real hard to be cool
This is my shit.

watched all the bosses in a lets play…
would never bother to play it myself

I played through the 1st and 2nd recently. Pretty neat games even with the jank and repetition. Liked 1 better than 2 way more though. You can really tell the latter was unfinished and rushed with how they padded out the latter levels and with how undeveloped a lot of aspects of the plot are.

>>6377
Even reddit despises this game fam.

>>6377
Because of trans baiting and feminism garbage. It wasn't as bad as they make it sound, but frankly, with all the garbage being shoveled out in mass media, at this point people are growing MORE intolerant of that crap because it's screaming "Be tolerant bigot!" at people.

An example is the years of shitty Mary-Sueshit and feminist liberalism in movies like the Star Wars Sequels and the Ghostbusters 2016 and Captain Marvel and other trash, which made people absolutely detest any hints of that in the Solo movie, despite the feminist and liberalism being toned down, because at this point people are sick of seeing it to the point of raging out at the slightest hint.

TL;DR: Excessive overexposure to liberalism has made most people have a hairtrigger against anything remotely feminist.

Ironically this also means that merely mediocre movies with female leads are getting flak because people just don't want to even hear it.

Also Naughty Dog literally fired a female game developer who created the franchise because she was against several of the "creative decisions" inserted into the game, so it's blatantly hypocritical too.

>>2451
Upon reflection I think they were trying to pull an Itachi or Pain, and convey the "revenge and hatred affects everyone, and that if you kill someone in revenge you are only continuing a cycle of hatred" but they fucked it up completely, so you only notice this if you disregard some dumb shit.

>>6377
And I'm surprised that you're surprised that 4chan hates everything under the sun. But in this case, the only people who will probably defend this dumpster fire are either completely braindead Sony zealots or more likely knee-jerking radlibs/EsJayDubyas.

>>2447
Yeah, this piss me off. They could have given a way to be complete pacifist or stop being preachy about violence in games, just don’t have it both ways. But in the end since they’re lazy corporate fucks that couldn’t even care enough to pay their workers a decent livable wage, they just copied the first game wholesale and added some better gore graphics.
Dishonored is still the only action game that do this right, where the world just go to shit when you decide to be a murderous psychopath.