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What is to be done about all media moving toward a service model where you don't even have access to the game files? Streamed games never took off because there is too much latency, but it's only a matter of time before they figure out how to stream the data to your computer at load-time instead of at run-time. Other forms of media are already largely handled through full streaming at the point of access.

ITT let's keep up to date with developments in this area, including but not limited to
<DRM and loss of ownership rights
<Alternative means of distribution
<FOSS and open access models for games
<Developers and distributors who support genuine ownership
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>>47363
a capitalist is a person who owns means of production and exploits workers. people like being capitalist because it makes them a lot of money. a capitalist is not simply a worker who "believes capitalism is the best system". that's called false consciousness.

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>>47324
>caring about physical media
This is childish discourse. DRM is what should be talked about. For fucking decades physical releases have meant jack shit. So many physical games require online authentification and in today's age with the normalizing of half-ass releases and "redemption-arcs" so many games on release will be updated coutless time, having a physical 1.0 copy just doesn't make much sense unless publishers just want to make some extra coin off collectionists via fomo.

Crack a final version of a game to make it drm free, put it on a disk or portable drive. There you go, physical media. Hell, for a little extra money pay someone on etsy to make you a replica or custom box/case. The outcry for physical media is the outcry for corporate handholding. We don't need the corpos to enjoy games.

sony just cancelled the kojima game physint and i'm starting to suspect that the ps6, if it ever gets released, will be a portable console.

like it makes perfect sense, people actually don't expect portable mini pcs to support physical media, i'd like to see the people currently protesting staying true to their cause when sony releases a AAA-gaming "hybrid" console, in fact many people protesting will perform incredible sony apologetics if that happens.

>>47501
Yes, DRM is the problem. Every game should just be a file that you run. No more launchers, no anti-cheat.

>>48053
The next step is making games in portable VM formats like Z-code. Electron apps don't count!



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Post about logic puzzles, puzzle vidya and other puzzle type games. Do you play any games with some regularity? What are your goto ones to relax?

Picrel is the Zero romhack for NES Tetris. I recently started playing two games of Tetris in parallel to see if i can improve my multitasking and this is the score of the first game i finished without getting a headache.

Sokoban clone Kwirk on the original Game Boy. (You shove around various shapes, not just boxes. There are holes you shove things into to walk over them, there are things that rotate 90° when you brush against, and there are levels where you control two people. That's pretty much it.) And Baba Is You', which I classify as half a Sokoban, half something else.

I'm also moderately excited about gigadouche Jonathan Blown's next game, Order of the Sinking Star.

>>48048 (me)
I fashion myself a gifted thinker and puzzle solver, yet here I stand with trousers down in public committing errors in basic formatting.

we are charlie kwirk. i've yet to play jonathan blowhard's the witness, maybe this weekend.



 

ocarina of time remake extended gameplay!!! i'm soyfacing to an insane degree rn

THOTS?!?!?!?!?!??!!
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>>48025
>i think it's mostly old millenials
<people who grew up with piece of media and have nostalgia are critical of pointless remake
shocker.

>>48020
>It is clearly oriented towards being played by new people, especially children
fuck them kids. it doesn't even look like "something that would appeal to children", like flat out, that's cope from some youtube shorts guy who found rococo in a dictionary. the unreal engine 5 demo look is obviously meant for the 40 year old manchildren fanboys who had wanted exactly this since the gamecube got released

>>48025
I can't explain it but I just don't like how it looks. I'm not even super precious about the awful 64 graphics either.

>we intentionally kept loading screens
soul reaver 2 was able to do away with loading screens 25 years ago

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>we intentionally kept loading screens



 

what are some popular (somehow) games that are extremely boring? games that go for dozens of hours and have a shitfuckton of dialogue and are repetitive af

and is any of these games worth playing
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>>48003
It's a story driven game you ADHD zoomer how about you play through the whole thing before forming an opinion bitch

>>48003
yeah, how about you play through the whole thing before forming an opinion you adhd zoomer bitch, how about that?!?

>>47997
i only ever had fun when i installed a mod that lets me have sandevistan and hacking at the same time, and a bunch of difficulty mods, and cranked everything all the way to very hard and did the dumb "secret" mission to raid arasaka. that was the only time anything in that piece of shit game felt exciting, and even then there was a lot of bunkering waiting for the asthma inhaler to reload or whatever

>>48042
also the fact that the raid arasaka mission was "secret" shows that cdpr are truly fucking stupid and fail to understand their own game, because it's thematically the most fitting outcome. it should have been the default option, perhaps behind the actual suicide ending. like yeah if you fail to make friends, your options should be either killing yourself, or smashing your face against a meatgrinder. the third option to make a deal with arasaka should just kill you offscreen.

>>48043
Making a deal with arasaka is the shit ending tho, you lose all your friends if you do it, and you're basically never gonna be able to do anything exciting for your entire extremely shortened life, it's a spiritual suicide instead of litteral



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I've been seeing all the hype over Wardogs but apparently it already has tons of hackers, and they're going to do progress wipes (kill me). I tried looking up comparable games but they all just have terrible reviews about how the developers ruined the game and shit like that, is there anything actually good to play?
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>>48029
the answer is to RETVRN to decentralized servers ran by the players with their own mod teams, let it sink or swim based on that.

>>48029
Reducing the amount of cheaters to 0.01% of the playerbase is good enough tbh

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Arma reforger is goated

>>48028

i love SPTarkov but i'm waiting for it to update to V1.5

>>48030
it actually is, no doubt about it. matchmaking and all the shenanigans with MMR and whatever happens in the backend serves exactly one purpose: maximizing playtime and incentivizing players to spend on micro transactions



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Why did From Software decide to make Elden Ring about gay incest?

meow.
meow.
meow.

>>47955
the first thing miyazaki asked george rr martin about was the sorts of fetishes he has, and homosexual incest was in the top 5, which is what they bonded over. that's probably the truth of it anyway.

Because heterosexual incest would be gay



 

every server i have to share with american players they're either cheating, trolling, immediately detaching themselves off the game whenever someone tries to take it serious, literally being too high off their fucking brains to even know where they are, or just downright begging for attention with racist rants or in the case of queers, just turning the whole server into ERP

and the most "hardcore oldfag" gamers spend more time complaining about videogames than playing them

so what is even going on with americans and videogames?
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>>47919
Is there more of that comic?

Probably not, all they do is whine about the mere sight of a queer couple

>>47924
You're not doing it right

>>47925
I have no idea, maybe image searching would help though.

>>47797

tbf the only russian cheaters i've found are also in NA boosting kids from Florida
or just downright diasporoids, but that's not only for russians, atp whenever i see a diasporoid i'm almost sure they're cheating, and about 80% of the time i'm god damn right.



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Are there any modern games that actually get the cyberpunk aesthetic right?

Cyberpunk 2077 looks pretty great during the night cycle, but during the day it becomes clear and sunny and looks more like gritty Futurama than cyberpunk.
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>>47813
one flaw is in this screenshot. for example none of the saved dialogue besides FILL SUCKZ is valid dialogue. non-valid dialogue drops your "health" and characters respond as if youre talking crazy. it would be fucking amazing if every character could respond to most stuff like this but i also know it would be a ton of work. decent effort for 5-6 person team even though it is pretty barebones. 6/10 but would recommend at least one playthrough

>>47814
mainly bc id like to see more work put into the game. its fun but the dialogue only lets you say so much it might as well be linear.

>>47814
>but i also know it would be a ton of work
seems like the ideal use case for an LLM, like just match an NPC with a dialogue and sent it to an LLM to pre-generate all lines lol, like they're meant to be throwaway lines for invalid options, who cares if they're a bit shitty

>>47835
couldnt you make an infinite loop of saved dialogue tho? although that could be a game over conditional where you get filled with so much ai slop you blue screen and cum and die

>>47889
>couldnt you make an infinite loop
why would it be infinite? the wrong dialogue options don't need to branch, you're launching what's effectively a non-sequitur, and it seems the characters already understand that you are an automaton unable of conversation, so a single refusal answer is kind of enough, just personalized enough for the situation where it seems organic. You don't even need to embed the LLM, just generate them beforehand.



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I think Undertale's routes perfectly encapsulate the left/right political axis, and I don't just mean the surface level "good = left, evil = right".

The Pacifist Route embodies leftism at it's core: doing what's right even while the world around you basks in indifference. Sticking to your values even when you could make things easier by ignoring them. Working hard to make things better for everyone even while they punish you for it at every turn.

Conversely, the Genocide Route embodies the right wing: going out of your way to make things worse for everyone, far beyond what benefits you. Being willing to make yourself miserable just to bring others down with you. Fighting endlessly to snuff out a resistance to your own eradication.

And the Neutral Route of course represents liberals, centrists. Indifferent to everything around them, they simply do whatever benefits them. No values, no purpose, simply cruising through life without a thought. Sure, they might *try* not to do wrong at first, but once it starts to be an inconvenience it stops being worth the trouble; the lives and happiness of people you barely know don't really matter that much one way or the other.

Truly a masterclass of political commentary, bravo Toby.
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>>47320
>leftism is when good values and rightism is when making things worse
Thats pretty much correct.

>>47340
But much of the "historically progressive" things have been declared evil: slavery, genocide of natives, enclosure, child labor, the early industrial system, Manifest Destiny, and the British conquest of India.

>>47345
Capitalism is progressive vis a vis feudalism, doesn't mean that it is right now

>>47291
Pacifist is normgroid nonsense, pandering to a race of child murderers so they can potentially live out their blood & soil fantasies on the surface, while turning Flowey (the best character in the game who actually understands the world) into a deeply forgettable crybaby who does nothing with the knowledge he's earned. And there's a high chance it gets reverted anyways.

Genocide is actually understanding the world for what it is, an endless cycle of predictable actions by flawed creatures, which you can break by stamping your will onto this world, even if it forces you to make horrible decisions against your morality. Of course, this makes Genocide sound way more compelling than it actually is, as Toby decided to fuck it up by shoehorning Chara in and subsequently pushing all of the character's agency onto Chara. Fun!

If you want to talk about left/right dichotomy (even though it means nothing), there's a case to be had that pacifist is right-wing in its preservation of useless relations simply because, while genocide is actually left-wing in its destruction of the old order and the construction of a new, better world (as lvl20 allows for world creation a la Chara). Pedantics and whatnot.

>and I don't just mean the surface level "good = left, evil = right".
that's literally what you're doing THOUGH. the other anon is right, undertale makes no sense if you think about it past the lil goober moralism. why do these critters even want to go above ground, a child armed with a shoe can utterly break the very essence of their being. even the king and his personal guard are no match. and they're so resentful their entire world revolves around building a doomsday weapon against mankind using dead children and their own re-animated corpses. asgore is like a retarded oppenheimer what the fuck. like it bothers me how untenable undertale is a setting for larger themes, it falls into little pieces if you think about it too much.



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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: https://boards.4chan.org/vr/thread/11698643 (RIP)

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
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What do you think of ultrakill layer 8. I liked it a lot, hakita is an ambitious little dude. I don't care that it is aesthetically derivative of inception or dr strange or whatever, I like any game that does this stupid non-euclidean crap

Doom as an Interface for Process Management

https://www.cs.unm.edu/~dlchao/flake/doom/chi/chi.html

<ABSTRACT


>This paper explores a novel interface to a system administration task. Instead of creating an interface de novo for the task, the author modified a popular computer game, Doom, to perform useful work. The game was chosen for its appeal to the target audience of system administrators. The implementation described is not a mature application, but it illustrates important points about user interfaces and our relationship with computers. The application relies on a computer game vernacular rather than the simulations of physical reality found in typical navigable virtual environments. Using a computer game vocabulary may broaden an application's audience by providing an intuitive environment for children and non-technical users. In addition, the application highlights the adversarial relationships that exist in a computer and suggests a new resource allocation scheme.


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now make fsn but in doom

>>47834
That'd be kinda cool



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