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 No.10428[Reply]

For years and years the debate has raged over whether video games qualify as art, and as ridiculous as that debate is there's one undeniable aspect of it: video games have ideological content.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TycfDgg4acY

For that reason this thread should be used to approach games from a political standpoint with their political content in mind. The only thing to keep in mind here is that YOU CANNOT TALK ABOUT GAMERGATE.

Here's a big list of video games with left wing content to help discussion get going:bolshevikBolshevik
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 No.10451

>>10450
Oh yeah and Disco Elysium is an obvious one, plus TNO, Equestria at War, and so on…

 No.10452

Video games have great potential to radicalize people because unlike other art forms, they are based around teaching people mechanics and enforcing a working understanding of mechanical systems (at least, a lot of the time - walking simulators etc are another question). Not only is there the possibility in video games to teach people the mechanics of politics and economics (a very straightforward and vulgar example), the very process of learning and understanding game mechanics predisposes people to understanding materialism and learning how to analyze how systems function. Video games are already good but could be made even better with the right application of game design. Properly radical games should be integrated into education that communists engage in, and I will fight you to the death over this.

 No.10467

That rec chart is kind of old. It needs Tonight We Riot and a bunch of other stuff.
>Peace Walker
I didn't finish it, and I know that it has actual communists in the story, but doesn't MSF do some jobs for non-leftists as well? Or was that just in MGSV?
>Ladykiller in a Bind
A meme recommendation? As far as I know, that's just a lesbian bondage VN. Is it actually leftist in any way?

>YOU CANNOT TALK ABOUT GAMERGATE.
why not? Not that I want to. The thread subject didn't even make me think about it.

>>10435
>Video games are designed to sell as many copies as possible and to be as addictive as possible
That doesn't apply to all video games, particularly indie/free games. In those cases they might actually be considered works of art.

Plus, there's a lot of people involved in the creation of games, so the writer, designer, programmer, lead artist, lead composer, etc. might not personally be trying to sell many copies but make a game out of creativity. In which case I guess you might be right about games being only "artistic" but not "art".

 No.10469

>>10440
>videogames are for nerds
Not anymore. Corporations have realized this, that's why everyone who has at least a cellphone plays them. Even the military knew this before video games were popular. Video games have massive propagandistic and educational potential.

 No.10572

>>10435
>Video games are designed to sell as many copies as possible and to be as addictive as possible
the exact same applies to music and television as well. doesnt make those any less "art".
many of the most popular video games are shit art, made for shit reasons, but again the exact same applies to music and television. youre either a massive pseud or havent engaged with the art form outside of fifa or cod.
go ahead and tell me with a straight face that something like pathologic is not a work of art.



 No.10422[Reply]

Anybody experienced with Dungeons and Dragons that can help me with some worldbuilding?

I want to integrate Gnomes into my world, and the 5e (inb4) source book says they have very tight-knit communities, so I want to make them Communists, but I'm a brainlet and I don't know what a medieval-esque Communist society would look like.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
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 No.10490

>>10487
I think this thread was accidentally posted to /hobby/ then moved here.

 No.10493

unless you're using magic to replace industrial technology, it would be difficult to actually produce communism in a medieval setting. however, you can look at the peasant republics (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauernrepublik hopefully you can read german, if not maybe you can find an english language source by googling peasant republic or Dithmarschen). Another possibility would be to work from tribal societies (for example, arabian peninsula before the saudis united it). In neither case are we talking about "communist societies" per se, but given the usual setting of medieval fantasy id say these two would be suitable stand-ins for communism, given some tweaking.

 No.10500

>>10493
Good post. I'm making a marxist fantasy setting too and this is good advice.

 No.10501

One of the biggest hurdles to a medieval communist revolution I think is the fact that peasants are just about the opposite of a revolutionary class. There's something about rural life that does not produce revolutionaries and progressive, but rather reactionaries. Only when you have cities with massive populations, thus having created the proletariat, does it become more possible.

Examples like the European Peasant republics aren't really revolutionary in actuality, they merely lacked feudalism because they were too poor and small, but they weren't actively ideologically upholding this, which is clear from how over time even Dithmarschen developed its own nobility from the families of the people who kept increasingly more often getting elected to be judges.

Then again, maybe some maoist can teach me something I don't know about peasants and revolution.

 No.10570

halflings can be eco-anarchists, since they're tolkien's ideal society



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 No.10197[Reply]

Anyone else play CRPGs because they don't have any IRL friends to play tabletop with?
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>>10197
>Anyone else play CRPGs because they don't have any IRL friends to play tabletop with?
That's how I started out, but eventually I made friends with other people who also played cRPGs so we ended up trying out tabletop stuff too. I soon found out that it's a different beast entirely, with it's own pros (absolute freedom of choice, you're having fun with friends, makes you work your creative muscles) and cons (unless your GM is a savant, the story/characters can't really compare to something like PS:T or VTM:B).
Don't feel bad about playing cRPGs OP, as long as they're good ones. I'd much rather spend an afternoon playing decent vidya than being in the same room with grog autists who take all the fun out of tabletop roleplaying.

 No.11689

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imma be honest wit u guiz i just liek sea-ing cute characters doing cute stuff in RPGs :DarmchairArmchair

 No.11691

>>11689
What game is this?

 No.11692

>>11691
Baldur's Gate 3, currently in Early Access.

 No.11695

>>11680
>unless your GM is a savant, the story/characters can't really compare to something like PS:T or VTM:B
That's your problem right there. The creativity should be collective, if only GM is in charge of your story and worldbuilding then all you get is either railroading or boring slog of sameness. Often both.

In my experience players aren't really trained to actually contribute anything to the story and instead trained by shitty GMs to just react. This is one of the reason why i dropped trpg, after experiencing the best, they ordinary was conpletely unacceptable.



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 No.10175[Reply]

You have played cyberpunk but not the best RPG of 2020, why is that the case?

 No.10189

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>You have played cyberpunk
>implying



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 No.10153[Reply]

The pillars of the modern gayming world are all asians, why is this?
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 No.10168

Western developers focused on developing games for PC and for an audience of turbo nerds while japanese consoles conquered normie minds.
I actually feel sad that western games got overshadowed by japanese games until the late 90's.
polite sage

 No.10178

>>10158
>I am a max contrarian with shit taste
FTFY

 No.10179

>>10178
Shut up /v/ermin.

 No.10229

>>10157
>I don’t get the cock sucking in the West about this dude.
You should see the levels of cringe coming from Spanish Kojima cocksuckers. The extra layer of language barrier makes it even worse somehow.

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 No.10118[Reply]

Thank you Based Facebook.

 No.10120

>>10118
Wow they finally solved the problem of consumers not paying attention to ads, truly this is the kind of genius innovation we need the free market for

 No.10142

ADSADSADSADASADADADASFASD

ADS IN MY HHEAD

 No.10143

need
therapy
therapy
advertising causes me
therapy
therapy



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 No.10077[Reply]

George owns a Virtual Boy in Seinfeld which is quite fitting for him. I'd like to think Kramer told him about this new revolutionary console that his friend Bob Sacamano said was gonna be the next big thing which prompted him to go out and buy it.
Jerry also owns some PC titles in his shelf, like Sim City.

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 No.10095

>>10077
Jerry is a Mac user.

 No.10098

>>10078
Does he play akuma?

 No.10102

>>10077
who tf bought a virtual boy for the set design?
weren't those things rare to buy even in that time



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 No.10066[Reply]

This whole E3 was yikes all around. Is gaming dead?
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 No.10169

Don't care about Metroid

 No.10183

Excited for Metroid

 No.10186

Metroid has been dead for a very long time now.

 No.10187

Mark Fisher has been proven right once again

 No.10191

>>10066
>Is gaming dead?
I wish



 No.10051[Reply]

Still undefeated.

 No.10054

At what exactly? Bad controls? Shallow mechanics?

 No.10064

>>10051
>Still no more crpg set in planescape or spelljammer
Literally the only good vanilla D&D settings.

 No.10065

>>10064
I think the same. Baldur's Gate was good too.

 No.10068

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>>10064
In the 90s: Al-Qadim, Birthright, Dark Sun, Dragonlance, Forgotten Realms, Mystara, Planescape, Ravenloft, and Spelljammer.
In the past 20 years: Forgotten Realms, Forgotten Realms, Forgotten Realms, Forgotten Realms, Forgotten Realms…



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 No.10011[Reply]

I miss well-optimized video games. Now because processing power keeps increasing nobody in the industry cares.
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 No.10028

>>10026
I had no idea there was such a thing

>>10025
Same, worst example for me being the Pokémon games (it's all barely catchy synth-orchestral shit now)

 No.10030

>>10011
This is random

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 No.10044

>>10040
NO!
I'm pretty sure most modern game developers write little scripts for an old crufty engine, that gets barely enough patches.
Most money is likely spent on highres models and marketing.
Even new low-level stuff is probably written in C++ with boost libs.
Just look at how poor of a performance Pokemon games can get away with https://old.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/bzw5pk/gamefreak_optimization_problems/

 No.10048

>>10040
So… indie games?



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