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>In 1983 the video game industry crashed, plunging from an estimated global market value of $42 billion in 1982 to only $14 billion in 1985. It was catastrophic for what had seemed an unstoppable industry and, like most economic crashes, spawned many myths about its causes and outcomes.

>The popular imagination blames the crash on a combination of poor-quality games (most famously, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial), the rise of home computers, and the increasing number of video game consoles for consumers to choose from. These myths have largely been accepted and perpetuated by historians, social media personalities and popular culture.


>Fast forward to 2025 and the video game industry seems to be going through another crash. Just this year alone, according to the website GamingLayoffs.com, the industry collectively has laid off 3,563 game developers. Gaming website Kotaku reports that Virtuous Ltd, the studio behind one of the biggest successes of the year with The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion Remastered, is laying off three hundred employees.


>What the crash of 1983 and the ongoing crash of 2025 have in common is that in both cases, most media, historians and social media influencers have muddied the waters on the cause and source of the crisis.


>In a way, the gaming industry is a canary in the capitalist coal mine. Video games are a sort of luxury goods – nobody ever died from not being able to play Donkey Kong Country or failing to grab the latest Call of Duty game. What this means in practice is that the capitalists who own and run the industry can be as greedy and rapacious as possible, above and beyond what they think they can get away with in more “serious” industries.


>Going back to 1983, Atari’s home version of Pac-Man – considered one of the worst games ever made – still managed to sell a total of seven million copies. Subjectively that’s an eye watering sum of units to sell; objectively it was the highest selling game the Atari console would ever sell. But despite this, Pac-Man for the Atari 2600 console reveals one of the unspoken truths about capitalism: it’s not enough to be successful. While Pac-Man sold seven million units, the corporate executives had banked on selling twelve million – that target would have required every single Atari
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>>44845
It seems to be a crisis of overproduction caused by the post-pandemic crisis and the collapse of the Western video game industry, especially in the US (at least compared to East Asia), although we mustn't forget that video games as an industry are a huge economic miracle compared to the rest of the global economy (thanks to China, by the way).

>>45186
>collapse of the western video game industry
didn't happen,give me one studio who collapsed

>>45190
several small studios collapsed, but you're right, that's less of a collapse, and more like a concentration of capital towards the top

>>45190
Massive layoffs since 2021

>>45209
that's just the covid/post covid boom in the market no longer being relevant,so they fire people to compensate with the hirings that happened back then



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of course most /pol/tards side with caser's legion but looking at it almost every single faction is awful one way or the other, The NCR is literally a reboot of America that is in the middle of a manifest destiny, House is a egotistical maniac and probably appeals to Musk bros and Yes man is just a libertarian wet dream
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>>44514
>slavery is less economic right than american liberalism

>>44514
>slavery is less economic right than american liberalism
massive trvclear fallout

>>44904
house invented crispr cell rejuvination

New 76 Ohio update with Walter Goggins just dropped but apparently the servers were so ass barely anyone could play and they turned them off for maintenance

I just heard Ella Purnell speak and shes got a British accent what the fuck



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Welcome, comrades! Here we discuss everything Sonic the Hedgehog.

/lsthg/ #1 - Free as the Wind Edition

NEWS
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Accolades Trailer
https://youtu.be/C6BSu_x0gcE

>Sonic Rumble arrives this November

https://x.com/Sonic_Rumble/status/1978491359452364988

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

RECENT SEGASONIC GAMES
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>>45119
Archie being great is controversial?
I would consider reading those comics again, if I were into comics right now, which I'm not

I genuinely wonder how nobody has noticed the correlation between the series' shift in quality and it's odd change in political leanings. No I'm not joking, you'd actually be surprised.
We all know the original few games were environmentalist, that's a very simple premise to really put out there, but later on in SA2 we had GUN as well, like the actual military (possibly a private military). They were pretty distinct antagonists, I mean they literally murdered children.
After the shift to third party though, there IS a distinct change. By Shadow 2005 they actively write GUN in a sympathetic light and have characters you would not expect to help them, do so.
By Sonic 06, the shift is so major that the person previously victimized by GUN is now directly working for them. Ontop of that, it is the first time the series has actively justified monarchism as a real and tangible thing that has merit to be upheld. Elise is able to contain iblis because she is of royal blood, not of the specific, soleanan royal family, no just "royal blood." We know this is the case, because Silver (a peasant) tries to contain iblis, and Blaze, note, a PRINCESS, has to come and contain iblis herself. The game is actively justifying monarchism, by saying these two princesses are special for being royalty, biologically speaking.
Sonic 06 is arguably the pole opposite of what came before, writing wise. Sonic is no longer cool, he sucks it up to royalty, and literally tells Elise to run from her problems, but in any case, that's not my point.
The point is that after 06, things were never the same again, in terms of the series political leanings, subconsciously or not (since all art is influenced by external factors, which politics are), Sonic games have lacked what they did before.
Ignoring how the 2010s marked an era intentionally avoiding complication and sticking to very run of the mil plotlines (and rehashing), even the game conceptualized as "Sonic Wars" has very little in terms of political substance. The war in forces is a backdrop, there is literally zero depth to what a war torn earth is like, it's ironically a far cry from the series roots in environmentalism. Compare the locales in Forces with the bad futures of Sonic CD, and you'll see exactly what I mean.
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>>45171
Sally was a princess but at the same time Archie had a lot more context around it, especially with the state of the world (the mobians were mostly fresh out of their version of the stone age), Sally and Elias' opposition and resentment to their own roles and the concept of being royalty.

A lot of nu sonic fans (especially the ones who have cropped up around 'that' twitter circle) I don't consider real fans. They have no appreciation for the subtle writing and themes in the early sonic games or the overt themes of Archie. They're parasites who have no place in the fandom

Luckily they are the extreme minority and it seems a lot of the younger alpha/gen z fans are intelligent enough to understand and agree with the environmentalist/anti-technofascism themes of Sonic. The fandom is probably one of the only worthwhile ones in terms of cultural output and personal beliefs.

>>45171
two things come to mind: speaking strictly on environmentalism, it was all the rage during the late 80s and throughout the 90s, likely because we had reached "the end of history" and everyone was convinced that all it took to save the planet from moneygrubbing industrialists was conscious liberalism. not a single soul believes that today unless you're particularly retarded or an atlanticist (but i repeat myself), so environmentalism was dropped out of everything once the link between capital and environmental destruction became obvious to everyone, no more captain planet, no more x-men or gi joe PSAs at the end of every episode telling you not to litter, and no sonic that speaks for the trees.

second, the early games worked because it relied on narrative simplicity. this guy is the evil industrialist, and then sonic is a real rebel, tuned to what's cool and what's cool is environmentalism. if you squint he looks like he wears air jordans, that's how cool he is. he's like the lorax if the lorax wasn't a preachy fuck. very easy to parse. the minute you have like the president or three later agencies trying to add political nuance, everything becomes shit. it doesnt work and it has never worked (unless you completely rework the universe but i argue the comics arent really sonic anymore but something else entirely) i cant even fault it for it having monarchy apologia. 06 reached lows so remarkably low that it was unable to even deliver a coherent story, let alone an understandable subtext, i mean it feels like the story was more interested in sonic wanting wanting to fuck, and what represents libidinous fantasies more than wanting to fuck a virginally pure holy madonna, you think it's a coincidence that all the sonic fetish stuff balooned after that? no! everyone's unconscious understood the message, sonic is a fuck beast, he fucked even the virgin mary. there's nothing holy anymore.

>>45183 (me)
this is just to say, sonic, being a marketable company mascot, it's not its own entity. it's always been a figure designed by council, emerging from the zeitgeist like some swamp creature. sonic was an environmentalist because it was cool at the time, and he became an enemy/collaborator of a literal deep state because in 2001 the american mind had melted after 9/11. now sonic persists in its eternal twilight, past its intended demise, vacillating between imaginary sexual object for the absolutely deranged, and nostalgia bait. it is what it is.



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Is Dwarf Fortress the most Historical Materialist game of all time?

>Simulates thousands of years of history

>Simulates individual lives
>Simulates entire economies
>Simulates private property, families, cities, states
>does not privilege the player with any kind of protagonism. You are simply an entity in a larger civilization
>any entity can be wiped out at any given moment and replaced with a similar one.
>deep physics simluation that includes erosion, precipitation, and the formation of continents
>can instantaneously generate an entire encyclopedia of interconnected occurences spanning thousands of years
>simulates marriage, divorce, courtship, cheating, betrayal, coups, assassinations, persecutions, and purges
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>>41273
true it is charming in a way. glitches and bugs and unintended consequences are always charming, but i was mostly talking about model interaction collapse in general as a challenge to simulation creators. simulation creators want their models to interact cohesively. sometimes the model interaction collapse is funny and charming, but not always. sometimes it can make things a slog, or broken, or boring.

>>41274
I think this is a challenge that has to be solved top-level, as a design philosophy thing. Look at the recent Zelda games and how they handle things interacting through a "chemistry" system as they call it. If you start from considering how all the different pieces interact instead of designing them separately as their own systems, it keeps everything more cohesive.

The new control scheme is such unplayable dogshit, what were they thinking?

>>45178
That people who got filtered by the old control scheme would be more likely to buy the game if everything took a million clicks to do, and they were right.

>>45179
The dev team at the engineering firm I worked at designed an application for the engineers to use which had a bunch of smart keyboard shortcuts, and documents outlining how to use them, and nobody uses them, instead choosing to do everything with mouse. So this is true. Also I think a lot of people never use keyboard shorcuts because they never learned how to type in school, and so, for them, keyboard shortcuts are actually slower than using the mouse, because they have to search around the keyboard for keys they can't feel out from muscle memory… another thing that's very depressing is the generational gap in designing everything around PC vs. designing everything around smartphone and tablet.



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Operation Deep Sneed edition

Made a new thread since the other one is full. You know the drill folks, gather here to discuss and/or complain about Hearts of Iron 4 and all the alt history mods that make the game relevant. From green natpops to sicko mode Savinkov we've got a lot of exciting stuff coming in the next Kaiserreich update, one which will make the LKMT look like pre-rework Germany by comparison. But dont worry TNOomers, you're getting some new content too! After a year and a half and three focus trees that only last for four years, we finally have something new and that's…

…three years of fucking Antarctica
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>>45124
That's the one with all the vril shit right?

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>European Pan-African Socialism

I love this shit. The White Man's Burden but with Karl Marx

>>45162
Bruh, what does the sub-ideology description say for European Pan-Africanism lmao

>>45163
>European Pan-Africanism, or Colonial Pan-Africanism as it is called by one of its main creators Jan Smuts, is an imperialist ideology that aims to unite swathes of Africa, or all of it, under White rule. First popularized in South Africa by Jan Smuts and certain Afrikaner labour groups, European Pan-Africanism as defined by Smuts initially called for the cooperation of colonial states across the Southern African colonies of Britain, Portugal, and Belgium in equal partnership with no official political alignment despite Smuts’ own Liberal Conservatism, but has since evolved, with certain strains calling for the total unification of these lands and possibly all of the wider continent under one Socialist - but still White chauvinistic - nation state that abandons the colonial mentality in order to rise to true statehood on equal footing with the titans of Europe while heavily encouraging White settlement en masse, as theorized by Jean and Albert Decoster in the Congo. An ideological personification of the White Man’s Burden and Cecil Rhodes’ efforts that varies between Leftist strains in the Congo and more conservative strains in South Africa, European Pan-Africanism is a strange ideology newly forged in the fires still left burning since the Scramble for Africa that above all seeks to bring law, order, and elevated social status to the colonials currently languishing away across the Dark Continent

>>45162
eurocommunism be like.



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Does leftypol play minecraft? I have no friends and wanted to start a new lan world
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>>45134
I'm playing on tlauncher and they did not update sodium so I can't use the mod yet

>>45134
Wow look at that vast nothing.

>>45143
tlauncher legacy (legacy launcher) i hope? please don't tell me that you use the adware one that adds shit ass slop servers to your serverlist each time you boot up the game

>>45164
may god (or whatever the equivalent for you is) help you
also you can update sodium yourself like any other mod https://modrinth.com/mod/sodium/versions

yes



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> yeah bro, my games universe has magic, paranormal stuff, and mysticism that normal people interact with daily
> oh but magic, yeah that’s some elite stuff that only a conveniently select few type of people know about
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This is more of a world building problem than a gameplay problem. But gameplay should come first, the world building should be created after the fact.

I don't even see how you could implement magic in a game that's more complex than what you get in something like D&D or just being superpowers with an occult theme. Real life magical/occult practices are usually subtle and free form in how they're supposed to work. It's something I only see working narratively.

>>45026
WRONG. No gameplay loop no matter how perfect is worth anything if the world you play in is boring as shit

yeah bro, my universe has tech, industrial stuff, and machines that normal people interact with daily
oh but engineering, yeah that’s some elite stuff that only a conveniently select few type of people know about

>>45018
>>45021
>the older the weapon the greater magical power can be infused
>archeologists run black markets for ancient weapons to enchant
I like the idea of Sorceror Kings with magic copper swords running around the same setting as Fudds with great grandpa's colt model army that has homing bullets or some other blessing.



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Does anyone else has experience with obvious Steam moderators alt accounts?

it seems to happen so often that users jump into threads instigating others to attack them and then get people banned, this is a known fact.

however what i don't see enough people talking is how these accounts seem to go undetected by moderators if not downright a lot of them have moderators as friends

some of these go as far as to have groups with names like "cabal, cult" and such.

one would think it's just users weaponizing moderation

til you realize these users can go around breaking every single rule without getting banned for months, if at all.

some people claim their accounts have turned into "moderator magnets" in which you can't even engage in any discussion as moderator alt accounts will start to target you hoping you'll give them anything at all they can to stick a ban to you

the more common reason for these bans is that you were being "argumentative or combative"
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>>45106
then stop answering the LGBT ragebaiters ?

>>45112

i don't

like i said, anything slightly uppitty or out of context even sarcasm will get you in the moderators sights.

i have like 20 clown badges and i have never been banned

>>45116
basado

>>45117
it's also my main account with 300+ games, step up your game sabiny



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I seriously cannot understand how monster hunter games are still the only games with a coherent ecology for their over worlds. From a developer standpoint, they shouldn’t be hard to implement—at least on a highly superficial level. Just separate neutral mobs from hostile mobs based off a zone so players have a choose between venturing off into places with dangerous territory vs venturing to hunting grounds. Ffs, we already have level bands and levelled areas, how hard is something like this to implement? I’m not even going deep on this like with realistic day/night cycles or mob migration. This is purely the superficial stuff.
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So-called gygaxian worldbuilding was actually the norm in rpgs before the advent the of the jrpg corridor.

>>45111
>>45110
Interesting

>>45111
I hate one page dungeons. All the prep work of keying your own dungeon, none of the fun creativity. Vidrel has such a point about some GMs wasting time prepping pointless factoids that only interest them. I know a guy like that with binders upon binders of notes for an RPG setting nobody will ever play in, and on the off chance they do he's going to bore them to death guaranteed.

>>45128
>binders upon binders of notes for an RPG setting nobody will ever play
Now make such an arcane TTRPG system, that would be challenging or near impossible to run irl, the game logic of your indie CRPG. Problem solved!

monster hunter has it relatively easy because the big monsters have overwhelming protagonism and it kind of opaques the rest of the small creatures, they just program a few simple routines for the big guys, some interactions with the aptonoths or whatever and that's enough to sell you on the fantasy of a real breathing world.



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not surprised at all that the studio raising funds for Azov is taking it out on small indie game devs

you can't even see the game store page at the moment anymore

give these people a hand and they'll take an arm

critical support to Platypus Entertainment and their struggle against NATOcucks
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Damn it, I was about to get that game to play with my friend.

Maybe bro shouldn't have supported the imperialist russian invasion of Ukraine while ripping off a Kiyv studio 🙄

Zigger shit ass game lmao

>>44813
>>44814
зов хахаха

>>44806
Metro 2033 also has guitar player sitting at fire.



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