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 No.9852[Reply]

Discuss.
Dune discussion general.

https://youtu.be/jJj2yHM3d3Y
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 No.10446

>>10400
> LoTR in a single book established almost the entire cosmology, history of every countries, their languages, and every known norms of the genres.
Yeah, and that one book is dedicated entirely to lore/worldbuilding. If you take out the Silmarillion, the LOTR trilogy and Dune are pretty comparable in that regard.
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 No.10447

>>9920
>Some literary critics have described Asimov's psychohistory as a reformulation of Karl Marx's theory of history (historical materialism), though Asimov denied any direct influence.[11]
The wikipedia article goes on to misinterpret hist mat, so I won't copy it. Incredible how much marxism is misinterpreted.
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 No.10592

I was expecting a delay but October 2021 seems a bit much.
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 No.13271

Reminds me of a depressing pamphlet “Desert” by Unknown https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert
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 No.13273

>>10437
True. That’s why in most of Heinlein’s work, war is portrayed as a constant skirmish of small proxy wars that keep to military industrial complex going. Starship troopers is that wholesale, the other is The moon is a cruel mistress where it also emphasized a long war up until they started to bombard earth with mass drivers.


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 No.1706[Reply]

ITT post practical survival, self-sustenance and cost-cutting tips, not utterly useless political/macroeconomic/philosophical theory (that you will never be able to implement anyway because you are just plebeian on the internet, not part of the ruling class) and whining that you see on /leftypol/

The target audience can range from scavenging hobos to minimum wagers to landowners with no mortgages.
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 No.13267

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The amazon basin civilization(s) probably lived in green cities kind of like this but they died because people like Fancisco de Orellana coofed up and down the amazon river, and plagues did the rest. By the time later European explorers came around, the jungle had overgrown and hid all the ruins and everyone thought the early explorers who reported dense populations and developed infrastructure were bullshitters talking about el dorado and the fountain of youth and whatever. The evidence now suggests that the rainforest is at least in part man-made.
https://time.com/5218270/amazonian-civilization-discovered-mato-grosso/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/07/180723142845.htm
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/01/searching-amazons-hidden-civilizations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_rainforest#Human_activity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_preta

Permaculture isn't more labor intensive if you set it up correctly. There's more up-front cost design-wise, but once the system is going, it's going and you just harvest and do a little maintenance. It's not only the method of agriculture that has to change, but the entire ethos. People don't realize how little (i.e. not at all) humans understood biology and nature at the time agricultural practices were formed and how much of the work was unnecessary or wasteful. With capitalism, wasteful practices become effectively set in stone because the process is commodified and there are financial interests to protect regarding the wasteful processes.
>pay someone to remove "waste" from the system
>pay someone else to get "fertilizer" to put into the system to keep it alive
If you set up the system according to how organisms naturally function you aren't fighting upstream the entire time. You let the "waste" turn into fertilizer, as it does naturally in any ecosystem. You alPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.13269

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That was just a fucking parallel you mong. If you are too illiterate to understand, let me use another one. Nature and Earth is like our house. Sometimes we want to demolish a wall in our house to make a larger room, or we want to attach an expansion to it. There is nothing wrong with that - the "original" form of the house isn't sacred. However, if the wall in question is load-bearing, or the expansion would destabilize the foundations, you DON'T do it, lest you be an utter idiot as you are putting your home in danger of collapse. Same shit applies to nature.

Cars should be a secondary option, for people who need it. 1 car per person if they need it. Most people own and drive cars because of necessity. If, after public transport is established properly, they still need or want a car, then they can have it.

claims that everyone who touched "black snow" got thyroid cancer in 6 years, which isn't true, because the "black snow" was the result of the fires in reactor 4, there is no fire nowadays but you still get radiation poisoning from the radiative decay. You also can't treat radiation poisoning if you reach that stage (thyroid cancer) because once it's in there you are fucked, developing thyroid cancer depends on the dose and genetics, If you don't absorb radioactive iodine, you don't need to treat yourself with iodine tablets either
start with Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_radiation_syndrome

Permaculture in the Senegal desert (pic related)
https://youtu.be/MYMIbLoxW8U
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 No.13270

‘Collapse of civilisation is the most likely outcome’: top climate scientists
&ltThe world’s most eminent climate scientists and biologists believe we’re headed for the collapse of civilisation, and it may already be too late to change course.
https://voiceofaction.org/collapse-of-civilisation-is-the-most-likely-outcome-top-climate-scientists/

METABOLIC RIFTS
Triple Crisis in the Anthropocene Ocean.
>Part One: Corrosive Seas
https://climateandcapitalism.com/2020/09/07/ocean-triple-crisis-part-1/
>Part Two: Running Low on Oxygen
https://climateandcapitalism.com/2020/09/20/triple-crisis-in-the-anthropocene-ocean-part-two-running-low-on-oxygen/
>Part Three: The Heat of 3.6 Billion Atom Bombs
https://climateandcapitalism.com/2020/10/24/triple-crisis-in-the-anthropocene-ocean-part-three-the-heat-of-3-6-billion-atom-bombs/
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 No.13272

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There is an architect by the name of Vincent Callebaut. Has designs to turn places such as the city of Paris into an ecologically friendly location. He has plans for bio-air conditioning, anti-smog towers, and vertical farming.

http://vincent.callebaut.org/object/150105_parissmartcity2050/parissmartcity2050/projects

If you guys wanna see something wild, check this shit out.
There are spiders known as Anelosimus Exumius that exist in giant communal webs, with hardly any social heirarchy, save for separation by sex. Check it out, it's fucking nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td09PIjz0iQ
https://unbelievable-facts.com/2016/02/anelosimus-eximius.html
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 No.13275

David Attenborough just put out a new documentary that was really well done, and was actually pretty realistic about the coming climate crisis. Didn't pull any punches like most hopium filled publications do, and as far as I know I don't know why a >90 year old man would want to spend what are the last years of his life bullshitting people about something he's done for half of his life or more.

Talked about the desertification of oceans, of land, of sopsoil being exhausted by our farming practices, overpopulation, temperature rises and what that means for humans and the wider ecosystem at large. These are things we have to consider as communists. Personally, it has always been my belief since I became aware of just how big an issue this was right around the time I left college that human society as we know it globally will be knocked down a civilization or two even. It was a pretty tough thing to realize, as I was also awash with enthusiasm for the material I had read from Marx, Lenin, Engals and coming to learn more about the USSR, China and such. Anyway, what I'm ultimately saying is that when I post on here ultimately its from a dark place because I feel like while capitalism will die any hope for what we know as socialism very well goes with it.

Ultimately though for the purposes of this post the documentary was well done and while it had some liberal solutions at the end, I know a socialist world order (that won't exist in our lifetimes in the developed form we need to beat this issue) could have been able to beat this issue. Producing for use value would be a huge first. Capitalism won't, and I know liberals can't even face that prospect. I think the conclusions cannot be ignored just because of hope and belief socialism will triumph somehow, and at least acknowledging a possible end to everything we know has to be considered.

NOTE: While the documentary is available through a certain paid service, I don't see why certain free platforms wouldn't have it. I hear there are things called trackers that carry it in high quality and other formats, and a certain bay. If you haven't seen it, do it for the knowledge, for a love of animals or a combination of both.


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 No.2641[Reply]

Is this show about class?
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 No.11012

>>6383
IDK but whatever it was he hung around for the second season unannounced until the character returned halfway through.

>>4879
>but its not the main focus and is forgotten in later seasons
Not true. In the second season it's a mess that goes nowhere, but they do frame the human vs robots conflict in an obvious parallel to class. The third season weirdly is about literal capitalism and conflict between humans and AI-embodied capital (or more accurately AI-embodied humanity vs AI-embodied capital), but since capitalism has evolved into AI-monarchy there's no direct criticism of the present capitalist system and it's more about AI or the alienated logic of capital driving civilization. But that's giving it a lot of credit for a show that by this point has a couple good ideas and doesn't even know how to execute those properly.
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 No.13184

I just liked the main theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X35voOs4rQA
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 No.13196

They need to fucking stop with the "smarter-than-thou" onion storytelling where you already know that in the beginning nothing of what you see it coherent or the present, with constant flashbacks, time jumps, the robots "imagining" things because they can't sort out their memories, everybody being or being turned into a robot, different minds inserted into different robots, "bad guy was actually good"/"good guy was actually bad" etc.

This shit is fun when it's spun across a single movie, like Memento, but making an entire show of this is fucking annoying. If you have a season with 10 episodes you need at least some linear story telling - it worked for season one, because nobody knew what to expect, but for the other seasons people feel unmotivated watching this because everybody knows they're going to be bamboozled again in the first 7-8 episodes before shit is actually going to be revealed.
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 No.13240

>>4328
interesting that this release coincides with the release of GPT3, an AI that harvests data to accurately imitate real people.
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 No.13242

>>13240
I hate it already. Sometimes I understand anprims and their hatred of technology… I feel the same sometimes.


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 No.13032[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

How did these clearly left wing books become a symbol for ancaps?
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 No.13159

>>13146
It's low quality. The answer is obvious. Ancaps will use anything that is vaguely "anti-communist" even if it was intended as only anti-Stalinism.
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 No.13162

>>13159
How is it low quality, what kind of bogus standards do you have?
I would say a good 1/4 of the thread is made up of decent posts and content , with other ccommnets being mostly on topic and up to usual chan standard

>Ancaps will use anything that is vaguely "anti-communist"

If that was true they'd use Quiet Flows the Don and Bulgakov's literature as anticommunist too.
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 No.13167

>>13055
Lassalle
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 No.13179

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>>13167
Y E S
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 No.13183

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Some people see 1984 as an anti-communist screed and to a certain extent, it is. It was one of the first salvos of what would become the "totalitarianism" meme, a Cold War attempt to try and draw comparisons between the fascists and communists who, before that point, where seen as two inherently opposed and contrasting forces, basically night and day. And some of the communist influences on the book are undeniable. "Big Brother" is described as a mustache man with piercing blue eyes and handsome features that's clearly a reference to Stalin (and perhaps Hitler), Emmanuel Goldstein is clearly Trotsky, people call each other "comrades" and so on. But these things are mostly surface level.

Some boomers still believe 1984 is set in Russia and is a more or less accurate depiction of the Soviet Union, but it's actually set in London, within a larger superstate called "Oceania". "Oceania" is basically the British Empire merged with the United States which then conquered Latin America. And, importantly, it was ultimately supposed to be less a screed against fascism or communism, and more a prediction of where Britain was heading, at least in Orwell's eyes.

And that's why it's worth looking at. 1984 is a very Anglo dystopia and ultimately an exploration of Anglo culture and politics.

Maybe the most telling aspect of Oceanic society in that regard is the "Anti-Sex League". If nothing else does, this should tell you that this is about Anglos, it's not the Germans, Italians, Russians or Chinese who are notoriously weird and prudish about sex.

But there's other things. Even though the name for the "Ministry of Truth" was likely inspired by Pravda ("Pravda" means "Truth" in Russian), everything else about it was inspired by Orwell's time working for the BBC. The Party pushes "newspeak", a heavily abbreviated, terse form of language more or less engineered to be thought-terminating. "Stalinist" propaganda was nothing like this, it was notoriously verbose, often belaboring the point well past redundancy. On the flip side, "newspeak" had already been more or less an Anglo tradition by the time Orwell had written the book. The United States loves its acronyms so much, it's become a thing to just refer to federal agencies as "Alphabet Soup", and British tabloids are often have headlines like "BOJO'S BREXIT BOOM".

But the thing central to liberal society more generally, but Anglo states in particular is "doublethink" and the idea Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


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 No.12478[Reply]

why are libs so obsessed with rewriting everything to fulfill their own, liberal, morality?
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 No.12595

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>ctrf-f
>recuperation
>not found
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 No.12619

Why is this surprising? The dominate superstructure always sublimates art and culture to reflects its own class interests, and liberalism is no exception. It's just basic Marxism, m8.
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 No.12620

>>12571
>criticizing souless corporate liberal garbage makes you a fascist
A libtard typed this post, kill yourself.
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 No.13023

>>12480
How was it revised? Seriously asking. Wasn't the film just a Hollywoodified adaptation of the slave revolt?
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 No.13172

This is an asinine thread.

Culture isn't static and should not be.

If anything, the bourgeois ideologues have only not gone far enough, if even possible for said bourgeoise, in forging the new culture.
In addition to creating new proletarian culture, the Soviets rewrote fairy tales to remove feudal and patriarchal elements, sometimes without even being subtle about it. For example the princes and princesses are replaced with Soviet administrators and humble peasants. And That doesn't even go to Soviet films, for example, 20,000 Leagues, which has even stronger, the original having a little already, antiimperialism themes. Link rel, the famed Chinese writer, took old tales and told them in service of revolution. There are many films, to give more examples, that have been appropriated, too, by LGBTQ people to be used for the struggles. And obviously, there's the retelling of Exodus by the enslaved Africans to serve their journey towards their liberation.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lu-xun/index.htm

If there is ever a revolution, this only will be developed even more, because all culture must change in tandem with their society's base.


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 No.5284[Reply]

Any anons practice this? How's it going? I was really into LDing when I was younger but drifted away due to the usual suspects of work, school, and alcoholism.

Been thinking about buying a dream journal and getting back into it. I still remember most of the basic ideas like reality checks and DILD/WILD, but it's gonna take some work to start putting them back into daily practice.
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 No.6400

>>5284
Put a foam cover over your mattress and sleep on your back without a pillow. Say hello to wild deams.
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 No.13030

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>>5343
Another guide
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 No.13170

>>5371
Do you live in Romania or something?
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 No.13171

>>5705
That sounds like a Venture Bros episode.
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 No.13175

>>13030
އައްސަލާމުޢު&lt
Wrong spelling. It is:
އައްސަލާމް


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 No.10810[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I have never seen a show cause more butthurt on /tv/ than this. What are leftypols thoughts?
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 No.12916

Honestly surprised that shows like it and "The Expanse" and "Mr Robot" are even on Amazon Prime.
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 No.12920

>>12916
Amazon Prime outbid netflix on very specific shows so they can get the prestige. Remember the first major work of alt history of the Golden Age of Television was Amazon Prime…
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 No.12937

>>12916
Apparently Jeff Bezos personally liked The Expanse so he got it for Amazon.
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 No.12977

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>>10810
Homelander soyjak.
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 No.13016

The New Mutants is also trying to pull the same thing as The Boys but not as well TBH. A lot of dumb shit in it, though the effects are decent


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 No.7003[Reply]

This is the capeshit film thread
Discuss capeshit
I'll admit I hate Marvel films, first off they're some of the glowies films out there, every single one fellates the Pentagon. The plots are almost all identical, filled with general pro-porky propaganda. The jokes are overdone and stale, literally Adam Sandler humor. The CIA is shit for such expensive productions. The characters are getting stale. Fuck these movies, death of cinema shit piles.
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 No.12608

>>10229
>is an unironic military fag who look at the shitshow of the industrial complex and say that it's a good thing
i got the complete opposite vibe reading the boys
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 No.12633

>>12603
I hate this terrible trend… but the comic-book industry hasn't been good for years now.
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 No.12635

>>12633
There are good comics out there, Marvel and DC are shit tho
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 No.13003

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>>19602
Reposting my rant about Wonder Woman:
It paints the most revisionist picture of WW1 I've ever seen with the typical "it was all duh GeRMaNs fault, BrITaIN GOOD DUH" which isn't true. Everyone involved in WW1 was equally an imperialist pig and believing that the Central Powers were the worse somehow despite the "good" guys starving something close to 2 million German civilians is baffling and just modern western media/history trying to paint their winning side as the good guys. Not saying that Germany WEREN'T the bad guys, just that if you're gonna criticize one imperialist power in a pointless war you gotta call the rest out for it as well.

I always see modern media streamline WW1 and make imperial Germans into basically 'nazies' even though those are two different time periods and screenwriters should actually read a book 'cause history is better at writing interesting and engaging tales than they are. Oh and also the whole "wonder woman" thing being shoved down the audiences throat with one of the most pointless and horrifying wars in human history into a consumerized, comedic, shallow-fem rights film that manages to make the superhero female lead somehow less important than the actual women who took part in the conflict.

2 Based takes about how Wonder-Woman is pro-imperialist trash
- https://mondoweiss.net/2017/07/military-industrial-complex/
- https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/06/imperial-feminism-woman-170613101125222.html

Also an interesting part is how in the posters (pic related) the tank Wonder Woman lifts is a T-28, a Soviet medium tank that was created 17 years after WW-1. Feels like some-kind of anti-soviet shit, though more likely its just inattentive graphic designers.

Good review by ralphthemoviemaker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIsNoHF-cMA[Embed][Embed]

Meanwhile liberals only have 1 criticism: IDENTITY POLITICS
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 No.13010

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As society has moved forward from the 20th century, a proliferation of postmodern skepticism made a lot of old propaganda techniques harder to pull off, and so propaganda often has to be a good deal more subtle and sub-textual to be taken seriously. Interestingly, this seems to disappear entirely if and when the creators start promoting the supposed diversity in their casting, setting etc. Rather flagrant, chauvinistic propaganda can be fed to liberals directly, and they munch it all down, eagerly, if they've been convinced it's a "progressive" work because of diverse casting.

Captain Marvel, which gender flipped an eponymous super hero and couldn't shut up about it, was a straight up ad for the US Air Force and didn't even try to hide it.
https://www.defense.gov/Explore/Features/Story/Article/1775393/airmen-fly-higher-further-faster-with-captain-marvel/
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/03/12/hollywood-captain-marvel-movie-us-military-propaganda/

Now consider the following plot for a movie:
>A man is chosen by God to destroy Satan, so God whisks him away as a child to a special hidden island where he is trained by none other than the Spartans themselves in the ways of becoming a warrior, but his training is suddenly interrupted by landing soldiers from the outside. Turns out, these are soldiers that accidentally found themselves in the island due to a conflict in WWI, and after the Spartans kill the soldiers except for the American guy who they can tell is good, the American explains the situation of the war to our hero. Realizing this must be Satan's doing, our hero follows the American out and into the broader world, which he is originally repulsed by. The weakness, the decadence… and how do they even fight in these civvy clothes? But, as they get into battle, the normal humans prove their worth as our hero's American buddy sacrifices himself in the fighting to stop the damned krauts. When the hero finally breaks through and confronts the German general, it turns out he's not Satan at all, but a proud soldier who loves his country. So who was Satan? None other than the traitorous, peacenik politician who waPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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 No.3859[Reply]

:Broadsword Edition:

>What is HEMA or WMA?

Historical European Martial Arts or sometimes Western Martial Arts are attempts at decoding, studying, and practicing the history, art, and fighting of everything from the Medieval Period to Early Modern Combatives.

What traditions are you lot studying at the moment?

Me? Going through George Silver's "Paradoxes of Defence" to expand my regimental broadsword/sabre repertoire.
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 No.12908

>>12862
>this thread came alive again for a bit
We have spurts of interest, people find something interesting/new, post it and start a brief discussion before it dies down for a month again.
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 No.12910

>>12498
>How did Shad manage to make a living off doing this shit?
>Fuck me.
Not the anon you're replying to, but Shad's not really any worse than Skallagrim (for example.)
The key to YouTube success seems to be putting out opinionated rants on subjects that enough people are interested in. And having a regular uploading schedule.
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 No.12913

>>12862
niceu
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 No.12961

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Okay, not to jerk the guy off any further, but this is unironically the best guide to footwork I've read so far. They're the most basic (hence, important) steps that practically everyone uses, but the most miraculous thing is the fact that he made a footwork section this concise and universal. The only confusing thing is that the figure has his left foot in front when the lines are meant for a right foot forward stance.

To put it more simply than it already is, you have full and half steps. Either can be forwards or backwards, straight or slanted though he says forward steps tend to be sloped while backwards tend to be straight. The two steps of the back foot that are given special attention are the oblique pass forwards and the circular compass, where the back foot circles behind the front. That's it. For earlier fencing that uses left-forwards as much, simply mirror the diagram and actions.

It's basically HEMA footwork 101 from a historical source. Only thing left to add I'd say is foot/hip turning and the role it plays in power generation.

>>12525
Thanks for the new book!
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 No.12987

>>12961
Di Grassi is pretty based
I've used some of his stuff before and it's damn fun.
Shame he doesn't get the attention he deserves imo


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 No.9401[Reply]

How based was this show? And, do you have faith that the reboot will do any justice to the previous seasons?
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 No.12683

Half the Tubesteak promos were based.

>>9642
>Apparently Aaron ran out of steam on a personal level and that's part of why season 4 sucked
Pretty sure he wasn't even involved in Season 4
https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=aaron%20mcgruder%20season%204
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 No.12695

>>11160
Tbh I think it is leftist, it’s just that the current generation of leftists probably can’t comprehend the world of the post-Soviet collapse
Remember, Cockshott himself writes that around the 90s most leftists had given in and accepted the supremacy of liberalism and the Market. I think Boondocks is representative of that first generation having grown up when neoliberalism came to power and defeated the worldwide socialist movement.
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 No.12696

>>12683
He wasn’t, Season 3 was his last season and the producers themselves wrote 4 because they didn’t want it to end, a lot of fans think the sole quality episode in that season was written by McGruger himself, he just didn’t reveal it.
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 No.12970

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris#District_Attorney_of_San_Francisco_(2004%E2%80%932011)
>Harris ran a "forceful" campaign, assisted by former mayor Willie Brown, Senator Dianne Feinstein, writer and cartoonist Aaron McGruder, and comedians Eddie Griffin and Chris Rock.
>writer and cartoonist [b]Aaron McGruder[/b]
OH NO NO NO
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 No.12979

>>12970
Eh, it was obvious he was a radlib, I never read into him as more than that TBH, based thoughts or not.


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