/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Activision Blizzard Is Trying to Stop a Union Vote At Its Albany Office
Activision Blizzard is asking the National Labor Relations Board to stop a union vote at its Diablo quality assurance (QA) department in Albany, NY because, it claims, game development is unlike any other form of labor, making years of NLRB precedent irrelevant. Following a successful union organizing drive, the company has requested that the votes be impounded until a review is completed.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkgv48/activision-blizzard-is-trying-to-stop-a-union-vote-at-its-albany-office
https://archive.ph/RSJl4

Big Oil Spent $13 Million to Boost Republicans in These 3 Toss-Up Senate Races
According to Greenpeace's breakdown of campaign finance data, Big Oil has donated more than $5.4 million to party committees and super PACs backing Dr. Mehmet Oz in Pennsylvania, $5.3 million to bolster Herschel Walker in Georgia, and $2 million to support Adam Laxalt in Nevada, each of whom has signaled they would oppose climate action if elected. During his tenure as Nevada's attorney general, Laxalt—who has ties to the Koch network—worked with other GOP officials to shield ExxonMobil from a fraud investigation.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/08/big-oil-spent-13-million-boost-republicans-these-3-toss-senate-races

‘$15 an hour is not enough’: US domestic workers rally on eve of midterms
As America heads to the polls, representatives of the more than 2 million workers in domestic jobs – from caring for the sick, elderly and disabled to cleaning homes – are making a last-minute midterms push to make sure their voices are heard.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/07/us-domestic-workers-midterms-election-minimum-wage-campaign

Tyson Foods CFO arrested after drunkenly entering random Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>Turkey: Union leader detained for saying 'stupid' societies eat too much bread
>Cihan Kolivar, chairman for the Union for Bread Producers in Turkey, had been speaking on Monday to the Haberturk news channel about the rising price of bread in the country. “Bread is the staple food for the stupid societies"
Lemao

Left Electoralism, Fascist Direct Action, and Anti-Fascist Resistance
The 2022 elections pitted the authoritarian nationalism of Jair Bolsonaro against the institutional leftism of Workers Party candidate Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. Each of these rival strategies for governance presented itself as the only possible salvation for democracy. The entire campaign was marked by acts of violence, and not just from voters: at various points, parliamentarians allied with Bolsonaro exchanged gunfire with police officers and chased opponents in the streets with guns in hand. On October 30, the second round of the election took place to determine the president and governors, and Bolsonaro lost to former president Lula. But Lula won by only 1.8%, setting the stage for strife that will continue to divide Brazil, just as the 2020 elections in the United States did not mark the end of political polarization. After the result was released on Sunday night, Bolsonaro supporters began blocking roads. The institutional left and its grassroots movements did not respond; it was left to autonomous anti-fascists, football fans, and residents of the periphery to unblock the roads. This offers a glimpse of the conflicts we will see in the coming years of Workers Party government as the extreme right reorganizes itself while the institutional left continues to bet on a social order that is slowly collapsing.
https://crimethinc.com/2022/11/06/left-electoralism-fascist-direct-action-and-anti-fascist-resistance-the-brazilian-elections-of-2022-and-their-implications-1

Tories cry crocodile tears as migrant crisis escalates
Horrific conditions at a migrant processing facility in Kent have revealed the reality of the Tories’ ‘hostile environment’ policy. Whilst some Tory figures may cry crocodile tears about the migrant crisis, the truth is that the dire situation facing refugees and asylum-seekers is a scandal entirely of the government’s making. Recent events have shone a spotlight on conditions at the Manston detention centre in Kent. This facility is designed to process up to 1,600 migrants per day. Yet asylum-seekers – who have fled war and torture – have been subjected to massive overcrowding, with up toPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1258066
based, rice enjoyers stay winning

Thanks News Anon

>>1257872
A 3 way troubles, even. left vs right vs establishment all in the same arena

BREAKING FOX23 –
@TCSO
and Tulsa Election Board reports at one precinct all workers were dismissed after 25+ Republican voters were not given city council ballots for District 5. Criminal investigation underway.

https://twitter.com/RickonFox23/status/1590074695931437058?s=20&t=xFRnayUG-qUOF79iOm4gWw

>>1257872
>I like the term "cold civir war".
All class societies exist in a state of cold civil war comrade.

>>1257872
The thing is that most people in the cities tend to be lib and people out in the sticks tend to be cons. You don't really have that same level of geographical divide that you see in Ireland.

>>1258071
class war is not the same as a civil war but whatever

>>1257587
>>What is free exchange? It is unrestricted trade, and that means turning back towards capitalism. Free exchange and freedom of trade mean circulation of commodities between petty proprietors. All of us who have studied at least the elements of Marxism know that this exchange and freedom of trade inevitably lead to a division of commodity producers into owners of capital and owners of labour-power, a division into capitalists and wage-workers, i.e., a revival of capitalist wage-slavery, which does not fall from the sky but springs the world over precisely from the agricultural commodity economy. This we know perfectly well in theory, and anyone in Russia who has observed the small farmer’s life and the conditions under which he farms must have seen this.
>https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1921/10thcong/ch03.htm

OK, this

>revival of capitalist wage-slavery, which does not fall from the sky but springs the world over precisely from the agricultural commodity economy.

Exactly! The farming products were not the only commodities. He mean food, which is biologically necessary unlike some wine or flowers or toys, etc commodities.

But in the same text he is saying

>Can it be done at all, theoretically speaking: can freedom of trade, freedom of capitalist enterprise for the small farmer, be restored to a certain extent without undermining the political power of the proletariat? Can it be done? Yes;
…
>We can allow free local exchange to an appreciabIe extent, without destroying, but actually strengthening the political power of the proletariat. How this is to be done, practice will show. I only wish to prove to you that theoretically it is conceivable. The proletariat, wielding state power, can, if it has any reserves at all, put them into circulation and thereby satisfy the middle peasant to a certain extent—on the basis of local economic exchange.

Lenin is confusing, saying "Anyone who knows the ABC of Marxism …" no links or anything.

And here
>>1257907 (You) (You)
Lenin is saying that some exchange is ok.

I found ABC of communism by Bakhunin and he is saying, §8 Wage Labour
>The vast numbers who were left without any property were transformed into the wage labourers of capital. What indeed was left for the impoverished peasant or artisan to do? Either take service as agricultural labourer under the capitalist landowner, or else go to the town and there seek employment in factory or workshop. There was no other way out.

But with workers dictatorship there is a way out.

>>1257907
Lenin isn't denying that freedom to trade will lead to the development of capitalism. All he's saying is that the proletariat can allow capitalism to grow without losing state power.

That text was from the period of transition between War Communism and NEP so that's why he's saying that.

>>1258188
>Lenin isn't denying that freedom to trade will lead to the development of capitalism. All he's saying is that the proletariat can allow capitalism to grow without losing state power.

No. It can't be, capitalism requires a state for workers oppression. NEP is not capitalism, no?
They had Soviets still under workers control, or may be not.. I'm not sure since Lenin suppressed one of the Soviets, but I do not recall the date.

I'm reading on NEP and it is
>allowed private individuals to own small and medium sized enterprises,[2] while the state continued to control large industries, banks and foreign trade.

Was the large industry controlled by plan?

>>1258269
>No. It can't be, capitalism requires a state for workers oppression.
Yeah and workers were oppressed by the capital under their own rule. They were managing their own exploitation because the condition for overcoming capitalism didn't exist at that moment in time.
>NEP is not capitalism, no?
It is
>The New Economic Policy means substituting a tax for the requisitioning of food; it means reverting to capitalism to a considerable extent—to what extent we do not know. Concessions to foreign capitalists (true, only very few have been accepted, especially when compared with the number we have offered) and leasing enterprises to private capitalists definitely mean restoring capitalism, and this is part and parcel of the New Economic Policy; for the abolition of the surplus-food appropriation system means allowing the peasants to trade freely in their surplus agricultural produce, in whatever is left over after the tax is collected—and the tax~ takes only a small share of that produce. The peasants constitute a huge section of our population and of our entire economy, and that is why capitalism must grow out of this soil of free trading.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1921/oct/17.htm

>It goes without saying that the tax in kind means freedom to trade. After having paid the tax in kind, the peasant will have the right freely to exchange the remainder of his grain. This freedom of exchange implies freedom for capitalism. We say this openly and emphasise it. We do not conceal it in the least. Things would go very hard with us if we attempted to conceal it. Freedom to trade means freedom for capitalism, but it also means a new form of capitalism. It means that, to a certain extent, we are re-creating capitalism. We are doing this quite openly. It is state capitalism. But state capitalism in a society where power belongs to capital, and state capitalism in a proletarian state, are two different concepts. In a capitalist state, state capitalism means that it is recognised by the state and controlled by it for the benefit of the bourgeoisie, and to the detriment of the proletariat. In the proletarian Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1250566
>Lol of course most anons in lefty/pol/ only care about soldiers.
<one guy
Didn't taking one opinion and presenting it as a board consensus in bad faith in order to troll used to be against the rules?
What ever happened to that rule?

Only broad social unionizing which can include people across sectoral boundaries, soldiers, the unemployed, etc. has any chance of advancing a socialist political project.
If you limit yourself to the most 'strategic' sectors of the workforce, then we know exactly what will happen. That sector will eventually win some modest concessions and representation from the bourgeoisie, the workers will immediately sink back into trade-union consciousness to defend their gains, and communist organizers will be sidelined or purged. This is what's happened to every successful labor organization in the industrial world.

>>1250906
loosely enforced to allow shitposting,since it's "board culture"
I'm not sure about the army,since most are there now to get a paycheck,and aren't actually commited to anything (especially not waging a war,which is an actual problem for a ton of armies in "devellopped" countries) and I just don't see them coming around to "our" side in droves because of it,they're very invested in keeping the job and not doing anything dangerous,but if your country army sounds receptive,go for it.

>>1250986 (me)
it also means most wouldn't actually start firing on the civilians,they would unironically go back to their home to smoke weed if a civil war happenned,so if you manage to get some on your side,it actually would make a big difference in numbers,and the real problem in a time of civil unrest is not the army,it's the police,this is very clear and has been demonstrated multiple times,so I don't get why this thread is trying to pretend the army is going to gun them down and sage is dumb and smelly for it.

Soldiers don't have any power, they're not workers in any real sense, and they're easily discarded
Maybe at best the officers can provide their expertise if they come on board and help train a new military from the ground up, but that's about it
BTW the DoD isn't just soldiers
You do realize firms have different types of employees within them, right?

So what did we learn from it?

>>1256640
The necessity of the proletarian dictatorship.

>>1256640
Not what month it is…

Fidel Castro, Soviet Television Interview on the Occasion of the Sixtieth Anniversary of the October Revolution. November 7, 1977

[Question] Comrade Commander: I would like to ask you your opinion on the influence of the Great October Revolution.

[Answer] The October Revolution had an impact on the entire world, on all continents, on all peoples. And, of course, it had a great influence on Cuba. A few years had elapsed since the end of our wars of independence. But Cuba’s wars of independence had not concluded with full independence for our people because U.S. intervention took place, and, as a result, a puppet republic emerged and neocolonialism was established. The North American monopolies seized our fundamental resources. As a result of that, there was great frustration, great unhappiness among our people. By then, the ideas of Marx and Engels had already been disseminated in some labor and intellectual circles of our country, so the October Revolution had a great impact on our people.

We can say that the immense majority of our workers, peasants and intellectuals welcomed it with great sympathy and experienced a profound solidarity with the October Revolution. This caused the awakening of a much greater interest due to social problems, increased the class struggle and the study of textbooks by Marx, Engels and Lenin and gave a great impetus to the formation of the first communist party in Cuba.

In workers’ and university circles, the first Marxist-Leninist groups were organized, which some years later founded Cuba’s first communist party. This party had a great influence on the struggle being waged during those days, which coincided with a great economic crisis in the 1930’s and had a great influence on the formation of a revolutionary awareness among the exploited classes of our country.

That was the immediate influence. That influence remained prevalent over the years, and above all it continued following the consolidation of the revolution and the establishment of the first socialist state. It continued for decades. Thus, the vanguards, the more conscious elements of the working class and the intellectual circles were greatly inspired by the October Revolution. It happens with all of us, not only in workers’ circles but also in student’s circles, in intellectual circles. We can add that the ideas of Marx, Engels and Lenin had decisive influence on the revolutionary nucleus which organized the armed strugPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1237963
BAYZED

>>1254718
Richard Sorge

Are there still leftist spies left or do you think only money-seekers and moles are left?

Josip Broz Tito, of course. Why? Because he's based.

>>1256568
Almost certainly in the AES countries.
I would love to read a book about soviet, Chinese or north Vietnamese tradecraft and potential differences to west.
Independent spies for the movement would be based but probably highly unlikely if not theoretically impossible, just the incentive isn't there, even if we have part of a framework now, like wikileaks..

Also Nguyễn Thành Trung, a second generation communist from a family which had faced large repression, including a comando raid on his home as a young boy to kill his father. He sucsesfully hid the hatred for the murderers of his father and after his studies became a pilot, going on to america and learn the technical details of american hardware, becoming the best pilot in the program, when he got home he stole a plane to bomb the palace with before flying it back to real vietnam and teaching others how to fly non-soviet planes and leading in attacks.

>>1255838
I mean with the fact that zhao was allowed to rise as far as he did before tinammin square doesnt really paint a good picture of the system
but you do have a point that there were differences between the soviet anad chinese one

>>1255846
Lol my ass you disingenuous wrecker

>>1255821
not a sweatshop but world manufacturing center yes

>>1255806
Maybe, maybe.
Thankfully it didn't
weird seeing yt recommending nice videos like this one

>>1255821
Just because USA has to pay it's labor aristocracy relatively more than in other countries doesn't mean that China has it bad. USA will have to pay back it's debts, and it will result in a rather predictable turn to fascism - so that workers won't rebel when their quality of life gets eroded in order to lower production costs for American porkies in America. And guess goddamn what, "America's sweatshop" China has already started turning towards it's own consumer market instead of selling for dollar on the world market and buying for dollar from world market

>>1241665
For me its much easier to read and study at a library than home.

>>1241665
>am I doomed?
propably

Keep reading, and especially keep talking and keep engaging. Maybe join a leftist circle of some kind. Even being here on /leftypol/ can help, there are from time to time very good effortposts and back-and-forth which are like ghosts of the old internet. A bit like when you’re learning a new language and immerse yourself in that world even if you do not understand it well. I know it sounds like a cliche but still.

I never finished high school personally, and while Marxist writing was unintelligible to me for a time when younger, with time I started to understand and things started to click. Now I have more arcane books than I have time to read. I can never go back, the veil has been lifted. It is as Galileo said: “And yet it moves”.

>>1241665
>its really hard for me to read
just go and watch ur communist tiktok zoomer

>>1256260
no u

>>1256598
Funny you should say that, because…

NEW BREAD!
>>1256601
>>1256601
>>1256601

>>1256506
>>1256504
I'll say it again.
Fedjacketing should be a bannable offence.

>>1256604
Thank you baker.

>>1256606
It's a bannable offence, except when there are obvious reasons to be sus, but regular posters usually receive a small ban time (minutes to some hours)

>>1256496
there is no meaningful difference since US "war on terror" where all partisans (and any civilians in the bomb radius) became terrorists

>>1256221
>Haha, it's just, people I disagreed with agree with you, and since my worldview is evidently correct to myself I don't feel the need to justify it to anyone else
Seriously what separates you from something like a catholic other than Catholics not even bothering to cover their nonsense with a scientific or materialist veneer?

>>1256164
>Oh no, I’m not in a book club that occasionally attends protests, damn
<When gringo-larper hasn't done a single day of organizing and he thinks organizing is a book club.
>the global south this
>the global south that
Bitch, shut your mouth up, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. If you knew even a little bit the history of the global south leftist movements you'd be well aware of the meddling of America in our affairs. I am talking about leftists, as I explicitly said, you fucking retarded mong.
>>1256170
You don't know what you're talking about. You're simply completely ignorant about the subject matter.

STOP LECTURING OTHERS. START ASKING QUESTIONS
Dunning Kruger really did hit you hard.

>Iran does not need your help
YES IT DOES YOU STUPID FUCKING IMPERIALIST BOOTLICKER
Who the fuck do you think is behind most of the sanctions on Iran? YOUR COUNTRY'S GOVERNMENT
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>>1256253
Do you think education is when somebody like me unquestionably accepts your claims and the claims made by people whose perspective you agree with?
Are you genuinely so arrogant you think the only reason someone would disagree with your performance is because they lack enough knowledge to realize you are correct?

How can you be so arrogant when half your argument also rests on taking pride in being unable to actually ask questions and think for yourself? If you could do those things you would give a non-idpol soaked answer as to what makes your viewpoint and sources more legitimate, correct, or reliable. Because remember, you're also directly arguing against the number of non-white, non-western leftists that don't agree with your right opportunist perspective that you pretend don't exist

>No amount of words are useful against you
Of course not, sputtering out a textbook's worth of writing is meaningless if it requires me to already assume your viewpoint is correct and valid

>>1256265
Again, you're wrong in your analysis because American imperialism is actively attacking Iran and is actively promoting regime change. Again, the result of successful regime change is not wholesome big chungus anti-hijab socialist utopia. The result is a neoliberal gutting of the country and a rapid decline in quality of life for the average person.

So no, retarded imbecil. Your role isn't to agitate for regime change. Because that is counter productive to the people living there and also to the world. Your role, you retarded mongrel, is to, first and foremost, touch grass, second organize domestically, third agitate against international sanctions and intervention.

It is not your job to:
- assume what global South leftists believe
- lecture the global south
- agitate for regime change in Iran
- prescribe actions to Iranians (a region you have proven to be ridiculously ignorant about lol)

Further, your claim of Iran being imperialist, because it is a regional power is laughable. Imperialism rests on an analysis of geopolitical economics. Your absolute bastardization of such an analysis is completely divorced from the challenges these countries face and the political economic relations between them. As I stated before, your knowledge on the region is extremely poor, so abstain from making comments on the geopolitical economic relations of the area.

>>1256325
>You fool, America is attacking Iran, therefore YOU must support it!
Meaningless, practically moral posturing
The stakes for imperialist competition always have been and always will be exploitation if not death for the defeated, this is not a real reason for me, as a communist, to support or defend a capitalist theocracy
>- assume what global South leftists believe
That's what you're doing, in assuming they all have the same warped chauvinistic and opportunist view you have. You're literally assuming everyone in the GS automatically agrees with you or alternatively that anyone who doesn't can and should be disregarded.
>lecture the global south
Tankies on leftypol = the Global South?

Or do you mean I shouldn't disagree with someone if they're Iranian or generally from South of the equator? What if the individual is an anarchist and doesn't support any capitalist state you worship or any state at all? What if they're a religious fundamentalist and believe women shouldnt leave the house without Male supervision? What if they're a literal fascist that openly state they want to do what Hitler did but for their own people? How I decide which person from the Global South I blindly agree with when they have the same diversity of opinions as people from the Global North?
>agitate for regime change in Iran
You realize a communist or anarchist revolution would be a regime change by definition? Why would my primary priority, as a communist, be the continuity of the Iranian state?
>prescribe actions to Iranians (a region you have proven to be ridiculously ignorant about lol)
What are you yourself doing when you announce Iranians should simply be subservient and loyal to their government solely because it opposes America? Considering the huge protests going on if anyone is trying to police Iranian people it's probably you.

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