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-Your boss and Corporate America are screwing you. Your politicians are taking legal bribes and letting it happen.

-Private ownership over the means of production and authoritarian workplaces owned by the top 10% (aka Capitalism) are exploiting and over working you.

-Capitalism, Corporations, Billionaires as well as our consumerist and fossil fuel addicted economies are killing life in our country and around the world.

-We spend money on weapons of death and destruction rather than advancing humanity and pursuing sustainability.

-Your tax dollars are funding ruthless blood thirsty imperialism and genocide.

-The only way to overcome the toxic status quo is to revolt. That means strikes and committing mass acts of civil disobedience.

We don’t have much time. Either revolution happens within the next 15 years or global warming will fuck the whole planet. Which may also lead to wars and nuclear armaggedon. START THE REVOLUTION NOW
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The next Jakarta Method, Operation Condor and will go on while worker solidarity is tightly restrained by national franchises of the US culture war, a far better weapon than nukes.


because everyone here already knows we need revolution now


Extinction is a legitimate alternative to capitalism. If the proles can not win every effort to make bourgeois life impossible for them and their descendants should be made.


>less than a day
>Why so few replies
It's not like a fbi.gov guild or 4chan, you gotta bookmark your thread and check on it every once in a while.
Also like other anons said, we're all already aware of this threat and are doing our own praxis toward revolution. You gotta think of novel ways to work toward it.


>We don’t have much time. Either revolution happens within the next 15 years or global warming will fuck the whole planet. Which may also lead to wars and nuclear armaggedon.
We have plenty of time. Humanity isn't going to collapse entirely. Climate change and revolution are very gradual processes, not a spontaneous and instant ones.
>It’s not happening in our lifetime by the way.
The revolution is already happening. See Communist China.
>Extinction is a legitimate alternative to capitalism. If the proles can not win every effort to make bourgeois life impossible for them and their descendants should be made.
Exactly. The genuine, model proletarian has nothing to lose, not even their own lives.

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I am damned, all wicked..
I've just watched this video in which the creator proclaims that the soviets weren't the basis of 'Soviet' Union and it is quite convincing..

Was our 'Soviet' Union a big retreat from the way of revolution in the first moment when the Menshevik/SR dominated Soviets were forcefully dismantled, as locally organized systems of planning of those regions would have fallen into instability… Which eventually ends the journey with the implementation of the NEP. I know that Martov and Lenin were very close friends who both were Marxists and both the left SR's and Mensheviks supported co-operation with the Bolsheviks, then why the Bolsheviks had to put an end to the Soviet power?


>then why the Bolsheviks had to put an end to the Soviet power?
Dismantling the Soviets was supposed to be a temporary solution like the NEP in a country torn by WW1 and revolution. Lenin and rest of the leadership sacrificed communism to gain stability.


-Create a beautiful system of Soviets
>Have to pull it back because of the devastating civil war forcing the NEP
-Start collectivizing undoing the NEP getting back to the roots
>The Nazis come and kill twice of what the civil war and WW1 killed
-Have to rebuild about to a point the rebuild isn't in the way
>Stalin dies.


Are you claiming that Bolsheviks have destroyed Soviets because Soviets started electing Bolsheviks or something? Soviets remained the source of power til the fucking end both de jure and de facto


oh ffs, this "si=" faggot again


I guess so..

>oh ffs, this "si=" faggot again

Idk who are you talking about??

>Are you claiming that Bolsheviks have destroyed Soviets because Soviets started electing Bolsheviks or something? Soviets remained the source of power til the fucking end both de jure and de facto

The Soviets were absent from their dismantling to the end of the USSR. ( at least this is what the video proclaims with its sources )
Actually, I can't judge Lenin or someone else if they saw the soviet elections as obstacles standing in the way of exerting their desired will. But, the bolsheviks were the first ones who divided the land into Soviets which were supposed to be down-to-top planning and feedback system. Then the NEP markets and the Gosplan bureucracy took their function.


Can anybody explain the true reasons behind why the wall was built and provide some resources about it? To my understanding, the Soviets actually gave West Berlin over to the US in an act of good faith since they were both allies. America proceeds to use it as a launching point for espionage and terrorist attacks after the second world war. The Soviets demand that the US gives West Berlin back, and the US refuses, so rather than initiating world war 3, the soviets built the berlin wall.
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Building the wall was a huge fuck up in my opinion. I understand the logic, minimising western influence and stopping brain drain etc, but it still was an extremely bad look for the eastern bloc.

This might be one of the advantages of capitalism, it forces you to do things indirectly, responsibility is shifted on the individuals. And the system is made to seem “natural” and apolitical.


To be fair capitalists are the ones that shaped the ideological world we live in today where 'work or starve' for 1000 companies is considered freedom but "work or starve" for one socialist state is considered tyranny


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It was built for two main reasons. First was security. The lax border was allowing too many Amerikkkan spies into the Communist sphere. The border was also kindling for war as it was, since Western and Soviet tanks were staring each other down all the time. The second reason was to stop academics, high skilled workers and petit bourgeois leaving the country. These groups were targetted by the Amerikkkan colony and were promised higher paying jobs. So basically brain drain.


"Work or starve" has been the natural law long before capitalism


Through the lens of spectacle everything the oponent does is an 'extremely bad look', who cares.

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Did he really convert back to Orthodox Christianity as the nazis were closing in on Moscow or is this weird cope from conservatives in the Russian federation who want to Make Russia Great Again and view Stalin as a strongman to RETVRN to?
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Historically, God was purged in the thirties for crimes against humanity


The idea that he was one of the most militant atheists in human history only to become Christian late in life is kind of a weird inversion of King Solomon who was devoutly Jewish his whole life and then turned to foreign Gods as an old man.


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Historically, Carmine always said the Abrahamics are nothing more than a glorified cult


Haz is a known liar FYI.


haz stop stealthing yourself into discussions by larping as your own detractors. you were not brought up in this thread.


This is a tactical brainstorm thread, so stay loose and have a good time.

I want to discuss what I'm ignorantly calling targeted economic sabotage of citizens; when an organized labour movement attacks an occupying force economically. When I say 'occupying force', I mean a wide range of class enemies, including police and other proletarian class traitors, as well as politicians.
The liberal capitalist system replaces the commons with the private. While this is obviously horrific and tragic, it can also be weaponized by workers through collective actions like strikes. Sufficiently organized workers (and I'm aware most of us aren't in societies this advanced yet) can perform powerful and targeted actions, like French CGT threatening to shut off power to politicians houses in 2023. Taken to a theoretical level, an industry could refuse service to any police and other servants of the ruling class, although this is obviously complicated when discrimination like this is probably illegal (technically) and police have legitimate use of violence, alongside powerful illegitimate use of violence. That said, this is situational - Cheran is an example of a town which successfully overthrew and exiled their former police force and politicians, so it's not inherently a pipe dream to combat state police.
Do you know of case studies where targeted economic sabotage of citizens has been tried? Do you believe it's feasible in any large scale, akin to a general strike specifically against targets?


>Do you believe it's feasible in any large scale, akin to a general strike specifically against targets?
Trade unions in Sweden have targeted Tesla and Musk because he refuses to sign a deal with his Swedish workers.



English, professor


Easy mode:destroying trucks with IDEs
Hard mode:training a shark to bite off the internet cable

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Egypt threatens to suspend peace treaty with Israel if its forces move into Rafah
EGYPT could suspend its peace treaty with Israel if Israeli forces are sent into the densely populated town of Rafah on the Gaza Strip’s southern border, two Egyptian officials and the European Union’s foreign policy chief said today. … The Egyptian officials also warned that fighting there could force the closure of the besieged territory’s main route for deliveries of food aid and medical supplies.

Meta considers labelling the word "Zionist" as hate speech
"Given the increase in polarized public discourse due to events in the Middle East, we believe it's important to assess our guidance for reviewing posts that use the term Zionist," a Meta spokesperson said in response to an AFP query. "While the term Zionist often refers to a person's ideology, which is not a protected characteristic, it can also be used to refer to Jewish or Israeli people."

In bid to curb immigration, France to scrap birthright citizenship in Mayotte
Located close to the impoverished Comoro islands off the East African coast, the former French colony has become the centre of fierce social unrest, with many residents blaming undocumented immigration for the deteriorating conditions. Much poorer than mainland France, Mayotte has been shaken by gang violence and social unrest for decades. The situation has recently worsened amid a water shortage.

Dutch court orders halt to F-35 jet parts exports to Israel
The court sided with human rights groups who argued the parts provided from a Dutch warehouse contribuPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


EPA again OKs use of toxic herbicide linked to Parkinson’s disease
The US Environmental Protection Agency is doubling down on its controversial finding that a toxic herbicide is safe for use across millions of acres of American cropland, despite what public health advocates characterize as virtual “scientific proof” the product causes Parkinson’s disease.

As corporate America pivots to AI, consumers rejected for loans, jobs
Rachel S lives in a walkable neighbourhood in Brooklyn, New York. Most days she is able to live comfortably without a car. She works remotely often but occasionally she needs to go into the office. That’s where her situation gets a bit challenging. Her workspace is not easily accessible by public transportation.

'Lead or Lose': 21 Arrested Blockading Biden Campaign HQ Over Climate, Gaza
About 100 campaigners blockaded the headquarters in Wilmington, Delaware. "If he doesn't stand for a cease-fire [in Gaza] and take bold action to end the era of fossil fuels, millions of young people will stay home in November," said Sunrise.

War on Gaza: Lawmakers introduce bill to 'review' US-South Africa ties after genocide trial against Israel
“South Africa has been building ties to countries and actors that undermine America’s national security and threaten our way of life through its military and political cooperation with China and Russia and its support of US.-designated terrorist organization Hamas,” James said in a statement.
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The European Communist Action stands by the side of the struggling farmers in Europe
The mass farmers’ protests that are taking place in many European countries, such as Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands and Greece, prove that the policies followed by the EU and the anti-popular governments, such as the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) and the “green” transition, have caused acute problems of economic survival for farmers and stockbreeders. Rural incomes have been hit by the huge increase in production costs, which are high to ensure the monopoly superprofits of the business groups, such as those in the energy sector, while the burdens of the imperialist war in Ukraine are being shifted onto the popular strata. Big traders, big agri-business and finance, making superprofits due to CAP market and trade rules, plunder toiling farmers and force them to sell their products at very low prices.Moreover, due to capital concentration and the consequent restructuring, the survival of toiling farmers is called into question.

There’s No Such Thing as a Free Helicopter Ride
That Sebastián Piñera should die in a helicopter is a case of unsurpassable poetic justice. “Free helicopter rides” has long been a meme among fascists inspired by the extrajudicial murders of leftists that the Argentine and Chilean governments carried out. The personal helicopter pilot of Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet openly admitted that he repeatedly murdered prisoners by throwing them into the ocean from his helicopter. As head of state, Piñera inherited and perpetuated Pinochet’s legacy, forcing capitalism on the Chilean population despite brave and widespread resistance. This is not the first time that we have outlived our oppressors—and it will not be the last. Below, we share a statement from our dear comrades in Chile on this historic occasion.
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Thanks News Anon




autistici.org on my leftypol organically?
Rare win.

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<“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

This quote, often put forward by reactionaries, is actually true, but with heavy asterisks.

>Hard times create strong men.

>Strong men create good times.
This is true. But not of slave owning planters like George Washington, but of their slaves. Not of imperial core soldiers, but of the people they bomb and radicalize.
>Good times create weak men.
>Weak men create hard times.”
This is also true. Not of the leftists ruining society with their lack of patriotism, but of the decadent ruling classes in the imperial core, maintaining an unfair hegemony and living a lifestyle characterized by a total lack of adversity, where they are even free to ignore contrary opinions.
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Material reality like the first world destroying this planet the last centuries?


"Hard men create good times"
- OP


>Hard times create strong men
Who are weak mentally, hence the reign of the neoconservative


exactly. machismo is often a sign of immaturity or sociopathy


Have you ever looked at them? There is a reason why the soyjak or the heelvsbabyface thing is a meme.


Are you an anti fascist or are you a leftist?
I get the impression people here are just anti fascists.
The goal should for everyone to work less and earn more.
Fascism is hardly a threat either way.
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Why does leftypol have so many fucking reactionaries lately? Was there a raid recently?


based, antifascism is the worst product of fascism



>Are you an anti fascist or are you a leftist?
I am a socialist, and an anti-fascist.

>The goal should for everyone to work less and earn more.

That's not the socialist demand, although a socialist economy should incidentally achieve that due to its structure.


I'm a communist, not a leftist

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Women’s Day in Venezuela: Feminists Advocate for Labor and Women’s Rights
Speakers from several collectives highlighted issues such as the need to secure legal, safe and free abortion as well as better wages to cover basic living costs as the country continues to suffer under US economic sanctions. Feminist organizations have consistently raised demands for free contraceptives, sexual education in schools as well as legal abortion to avoid more deaths from clandestine procedures.

Employees of Argentine state news agency shut down by government reject retirement plan
The Press Union of Buenos Aires (Sipreba) on Monday rejected the thirty-day voluntary retirement program for all permanent and temporary employees of the state press agency (Télam) proposed by its administration after Argentine President Javier Milei announcement the state company’s closure.

Israeli general who blew up Gaza university would've got green light if he asked: Army Radio
The commander, Brig. Gen. Barak Hiram, was formally censured for destroying Al-Israa University in January without "the necessary authorisation," the Times of Israel (TOI) newspaper cited the Israeli army as saying on Monday. The army accuses Hamas of having used the building as a command centre, something the Palestinian group denies.

UN-backed commission says 30,000 children are suffering rights abuses in northeastern Syria
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Federal judge in Texas blocks US labor board rule that would make it easier for workers to unionize
A federal judge in Texas has blocked a new rule by the National Labor Relations Board that would have made it easier for millions of workers to form unions at big companies. The rule, which was due to go into effect Monday, would have set new standards for determining when two companies should be considered “joint employers” in labor negotiations.

Judge blocks tighter Washington state oversight of immigration detention center
A federal judge blocked Washington state from enforcing most of a law intended to boost oversight and improve living conditions at the state's only privately run, for-profit immigration detention facility. Friday's preliminary injunction issued by U.S. District Judge Benjamin Settle will benefit Geo Group (GEO.N) , opens new tab, the owner of the Northwest Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Processing Center in Tacoma.

DHS Using Hamas to Expand Its Reach on College Campuses
The Department of Homeland Security is stepping up its efforts to penetrate college campuses under the guise of fighting “foreign malign influence,” according to documents and memos obtained by The Intercept. The push comes at the same time that the DHS is quietly undertaking an effort to influence university curricula in an attempt to fight what it calls disinformation.

California officer shoots and kills boy, 15, holding gardening tool
The San Bernardino county sheriff’s department was responding to a 911 call on Saturday from a faPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


Here comes PAAU to claim those Venezuelan feminists are “CIA” or some shit.


The USA gets more fascist by the day.
And with it, their citizens, including the pseudo left.


PFLP: There is No Difference in Essence and Content Between the Positions of Biden and Netanyahu
The Front emphasized that there is no difference in essence and content between the positions of war criminal Biden and those of war criminal Netanyahu, and that both positions cling to continuing the aggression on the Strip and not [implementing] the ceasefire in Gaza, and that the difference lies in some tactical matters on the ground, in light of the occupation’s failure to achieve any goal on the ground, which constitutes an embarrassment and pressure on Biden as his popularity declines, and the escalation of waves of anger in the American public opinion against him, and in the midst of the American and international desire and the official Arab regime to stop the ceasefire during Ramadan to avoid any major escalation in the region and the area that would turn on them.

As Neo-Nazi ‘Active Club’ Grows, Charges Against Its Founder Dismissed
Central District of California — Highlighting the growth of Active Club, a prominent global violent neo-nazi group with nearly 50 chapters in the United States, more than 100 new symbols for the group have been added to the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism’s (GPAHE) database. Evolving from what was once the alt-right Rise Above Movement (RAM), Active Club has been especially active in its targeted recruitment of mostly young white men online. Both RAM and Active Club were created by Robert Rundo, a self-professed fascist and white nationalist who promotes antisemitic tropes. Rundo was a fugitive from 2018 until 2023 for charges stemming from participating “in a series of violent attacks at political rallies in 2017, including events in Huntington Beach, Berkeley, and San Bernardino,” according to a statement from the U.S. Attorney after Rundo’s arrest. Four other members of RAM were charged in a separate indictment for their participation in the violent events in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017.
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The minimum wage should be $100 an hour
The working week should be 20 hours per week as was written in the book
That means everyone gets $6000 per month for working
The retirement should be no more than 52
Housing should be a right
This should all be written in the constitution
No it's not unrealistic under a socialist government
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If we can't have the equivalent of a 20 hour working week and $100 minimum wage then what's the point?
The auto workers factories would be competing agaisnt global companies. I don't see gaining anything via reform.


I think you're dumb and utopian


bringing attention to unpaid housework didn't really do anything until the economic pressures of neoliberalism put more women to work anyway


Can you please explain why I'm an utopian?


"economists" will say this will cause the country to enter "rapid inflation" and sharply decrease "productivity" wow what a bunch of buzzwords

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