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 No.198477[Reply]

is there any sort of archive for all the old threads from /leftypol/ and /leftpol/ back on 8chan? I'd like to browse through some of the old posts from it's hayday a few years back but IDK if they've been saved at all or not.
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 No.198496

>>198489
You can try checking archive.is and archive.org, there ought to be a few saved threads there.
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 No.198508

>>198501
those should do nicely thanks Anon
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 No.198524

>>198501
use archive.org too


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 No.190084[Reply]

I've recently lost 20 kg (44 pounds) and the most striking thing I've noticed is that I've been thinking to a point I might even call overthought.

To your knowledge are there any explicit plans that use obesity as a tool to suppress left thought and organization?
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 No.198267

>>198210
No, but poor nutrition and lack of exercise snowballs into creating circumstances where someone is unhealthy and unmotivated. When most poor communities live under these circumstances there is an identifiable social mechanism that, while only an indirect consequence of cheaper commodities and social atomization, leads to a situation in which poor people are less capable and willing to mount resistance. This isnt the fault of fat people so far as it's a social tendency that they were caught up in usually from childhood, but health and fitness should still be encouraged by communists and we should work to make health, fitness, and proper nutrition more accessible and desirable to the poor and working class.
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 No.198319

>>198299
Why are you like this though?
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 No.198434

>>198299
>>198319
guys, how should we name that faggot ? the though noticer? the thoughfag? the schizthough?
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 No.198462

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>>198319
>schizthough


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 No.191346[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Why does being childfree/not wanting to be around children lead to almost inevitable social ostracization? I thought this sort of zealous natalism was a mostly dead remnant of the past, and yet I can't even mention it among supposedly fellow socialists without being shamed, mocked, and ostracized.
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 No.195628

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>>195622
I believe your parents were shit. But why should we expect their seed would are any different? Not something you should go around advertising for your own sake.
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 No.195640

>>195622
> Where did Marx express his respect for tradition? If anything he was violently opposed to it
< Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living. And just as they seem to be occupied with revolutionizing themselves and things, creating something that did not exist before, precisely in such epochs of revolutionary crisis they anxiously conjure up the spirits of the past to their service, borrowing from them names, battle slogans, and costumes in order to present this new scene in world history in time-honored disguise and borrowed language.
> A lot of failparents rationalize their kids breaking ties with them as a form of disrespect or ungratefulness, as if kids were indebted to them.
So why does it matter how they view it? Can we agree that there’s a universal understanding of disrespect that falls outside petty whining and moralizing?
> If you think that saying in public that "yup, my parents were abusive and shit parents" (if true) is a form of disrespect, then yes, I think that """disrespect""" is defensible.
Depends on the context. It can be disrespectful if you are using it to encourage the further alienation of your parents from people which they have no abusive past with.
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 No.196415

>>195860
That’s because you, and nobody else it seems, understands what respect means. Marx respects tradition.
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 No.197354

>>196415
>The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living.
mArX rEsPeCtS tRaDiTiOn
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 No.198382

>>195640
>Can we agree that there’s a universal understanding of disrespect that falls outside petty whining and moralizing?

No faggot


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 No.198206[Reply]

Is MAGA a communist movement?
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 No.198209

no, at best it's welfare for white people
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 No.198221

Bottom of the barrel lumpen NEET and their petite bourg parents who support them movement.
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 No.198227

It’s fascist in the downwardly mobile petty booj class consciousness and the reactionary resentment that this is founded on.
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 No.198231

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Yes


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 No.197986[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Why did communism fail every single time it got tried?

Maybe we should finally talk about this issue.
Trying the same thing again and again and expecting different results is cringe.
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 No.198272

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>>198233
>the capitalists at least hide it a bit better
But anon, did you miss the last US election?
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 No.198286

>>198225
Anon, are you legitimately braindead? Why would they rig the election in favor of the Soviet Union and then dissolve it anyway? You're fucking retarded LMAO
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 No.198289

>>198286
>election
*referendum, poll, whatever
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 No.199960

>>198253
Nobody said that you dishonest fuck, kys
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 No.224132

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Becouse marx intended his ideas for highly industrialized societies instead of agrarian countries


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 No.195388[Reply]

Does it feel as if leftism and class based politics is receding in the online and offline discourse? I barely see anything related to even idpol shit anymore outside of weird internet hives. I think neoliberal "centrism" might have finally captured the west's heart yet again.
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 No.197908

>>197865
>The reforms
Unironically what fucking reforms mate? You realize that talk is fucking cheap, yes? The DNC is a party of Wall Street, if the rich don’t want the Biden program to go through, it won’t go through, and if he can’t tax them then the only other option is for the country to go deeper into debt.

Fuck off with your neoliberal shilling
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 No.197958

>>195388
MSM and social media platforms have massively ramped up the suppression of all radical leftist content

>>195478
you're a fucking retarded moron
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 No.197959

>>197908
You really are retarded, aren't you? I'm not saying what Biden's doing is good. That's not the point of this thread. I'm asking what the left's response is to the Democrats passing pro-worker reforms - i.e. what bourgeois governments have been doing for 150 years.

What is your response if Biden ACTUALLY DOES pass the PRO Act, raise the minimum wage, etc. - you know, like every other leftist is screaming for him to do? What is your response to the local IBEW worker who tells your PSL/IWW/Green activists to fuck off, the Dems represent their interests just fine?

Do you people have any game plan at all other than just online cope and seethe over "shills"?
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 No.197962

>>197959
>if Biden ACTUALLY DOES pass the PRO Act, raise the minimum wage, etc
that's like asking what we would do if the sun disappeared

>What is your response to the local IBEW worker who tells your PSL/IWW/Green activists to fuck off, the Dems represent their interests just fine?

I show them how little they are actually giving, how much they still give corporations, how they fucked them over and over again historically, and show them how much more they can have
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 No.198102

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>>196467
>Biden is the modern Otto von Bismarck


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 No.193233[Reply]

Okay, trying to fix racism, sexism, etc within capitalism is futile and even counterproductive when it comes in the form of corporate co-opted liberal idpol. „The root of it all is class!“ Okay.. how exactly will socialism fix it then? Key word „exactly“? Will in your socialist utopia women no longer have to text their friends where they are when they go out with a guy, because they might get raped or murdered, as women disproportionally do at the hands of men? Will the KKK and other white supremacists disappear? Will all white people admit most confederate statues were erected in times where African Americans fought for their rights to spite them and therefore agree to remove them? Will Asian men never hear to have demeaning jokes about their penile size again? Will homosexuals and transgenders no longer be discriminated against or bullied into suicide? How?
Pro tip: Don‘t say those are all irrelevant issues, that‘s just indirectly admitting socialism won‘t fix it.
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 No.197579

>>193233
>Will in your socialist utopia women no longer have to text their friends where they are when they go out with a guy, because they might get raped
Yes, minus the utopianism, in the future socialist society, everybody has to go through basic weapons and close combat training. Even tiny women will have enough offensive power to make rape an extreme statistical outlier. The body of socialist society will not be toothless like in capitalism.
>Will all white people
>where African Americans
>Will Asian men
Those are their slave names, in socialism we completely fill up heads with science, biology and all the other good stuff. Racialism and racism will be crowded out of the mindspace. The manipulative powers of capitalist marketing will be remade to flood the popular consciousness with evidence based thinking. People will make jokes about you for believing things without proofs.
>discriminated against or bullied into suicide?
We will build a materialist theory of psychological violence, not just for your pet peeves but a general one. We will use it to build a culture of unbreakable steel minded people, with armored subconsciousness. The movie inception except every subconscious layer is filled with Soviet tanks that will go full Stalin on you, if you try to push buttons.

Your are a capitalist reactionary that wants to use the victims of present society as a political wedge against socialism. You are not defending victimized people you are shamelessly using them for your class interests. You will act to perpetuate their suffering because that is useful to perpetuate your political power. You will enable their suffering so you can play the knight in shining armor that pretends to protect them. Socialism will make people powerful so they won't become victims. Capitalism will never allow people to be powerful because that makes it impossible to exploit them as workers or to trick them to buy into bad deals. Neo-liberalism has a good cop bad cop routine, and you are one of those cops. The worst thing is that you might actually believe your own bullshit, and think what you are doing makes you a good person.
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 No.197582

>>197579
/thread
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 No.197583

Over time the conditions which give rise to such things will cease to exist. Superstructural changes will happen in turn.
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 No.197598

>>197579
>The movie inception except every subconscious layer is filled with Soviet tanks that will go full Stalin on you, if you try to push buttons.
This is completely retarded and incredibly based at the same time.
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 No.197852

>>197579
based autism god. A rifle in the hands and a steel resolve in the hearts of every man woman and child


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 No.197756[Reply]

If you do not support rape and free access to women, you are NOT a communist(user was brutally fucked in his boipussy because I could tell he wanted it for this post)
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 No.197759

>The third condition for the realization of Fourier's amorous utopia was the granting of a ‘sexual minimum’. In Harmony, he wrote, every mature man and woman must be guaranteed a satisfying minimum of sexual pleasure. Whatever his or her age, and no matter how bizarre their desires, no one would go unsatisfied. Fourier maintained that this sexual minimum would play a role in the amorous world similar to that played by his ‘social minimum’ in the world of work.
if you disagree with this, you are NOT a communist
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 No.197760

Damn bro you've got the whole squad laughing
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 No.202872

Swedish socdem incel it's been years


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 No.197658[Reply]

Should i read the Accursed share / George Bataille?.
I've heard that Nick Land, Lacan and guy debord all take inspiration from it at some points, yet i also hear that king nonce Foucault took most of his inspiration from Bataille as well and that Bataille himself was also likely a noncoid. I dont really want to read a book that is just a guy rationalising why he likes to act like a fucked up version of hedonism bot from futurama all day.
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 No.197661

Read whatever the fuck you want after having read the classics of Marx, Engels, and Lenin.
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 No.197666

>Nick Land
shit
>Lacan
Shit
>Debord
Interesting but also shit.
>Foucault
Nonce as you say.

I wouldn't bother. Better to read some history of the socialist movement or something about actually organising.


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 No.197430[Reply]

where did he go so wrong ?
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 No.197438

>>197430
At the point when was given the opportunity to betray his countrymen for money and took it.
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 No.197458

He never read Marx
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 No.197463

>>197430
pls make more of an effort in making topics


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