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Why does it feel like so much “anti-imperialism” has very little — if anything — to do with anti-imperialism and is simply Muslim identity politics?

For instance, why would anyone compare Pakistan to Palestine, when the former is a sovereign nation that was a close US ally during the Cold War and the latter a stateless nation that’s been fighting a 77+ year guerrilla war against one of the most brutal armies in the world and is now facing an all-out genocide? Pakistan and India are both bourgeois states with close ties to the US that both frequently imprison communists. To compare Pakistan to Palestine, in that western activists have a moral duty to hold mass protests waving Pakistani flags and boycott anything Indian is fucking stupid.

Yeah, I’m not shilling for India. But this shit is theoretically weak af.

Also, why does it seem like in every political conflict involving Muslims (except for China vs the Uyghurs) leftists always insist on taking the “Muslim side”? Look at Ethiopia vs Somalia or Christians vs Muslims in Nigeria, for instance. During the Cold War this would have made perfect sense, because the side fighting against the side backed by the West could be allied with the USSR and utilized to fight western capitalists. Today, not so much.

I’d love to understand the logic here.
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>>2270859
Ethiopia is Western puppet under the dictatorial rule of Abiy Ahmed currently genociding the Amhara.
Socialist Eritrea > Capitalist Ethiopia
Fuck Ethiopia.

Can that iraqi leftcom incel finally shut up nobody gives a shit about his thread spam and how the local imam raped his ass as a little boy 😂

Marxism-Leninism considers all questions in their historical settings. Marxism-Leninists view bourgeois nationalism under the given historical conditions. Drawing a distinction between its different objective roles, they decide what different attitudes the proletariat should take toward it.

In the early period of capitalism, the national movement led by the bourgeoisie had as its objective the struggle against oppression by other nations and the creation of a national state. This national movement was historically progressive, and the proletariat supported it.

In the present period, such bourgeois nationalism still exists in the colonial and semi-colonial countries. This variety of nationalism also has a certain objective progressive historical significance.

The bourgeoisie of Europe, the United States, and Japan has established the imperialist system of colonial and semi-colonial oppression in many backward countries. In such colonial and semi-colonial countries as China, India, Korea, Indonesia, the Philippines, Viet-Nam, Burma, Egypt, etc., bourgeois nationalism naturally developed. This was because the national bourgeoisie in these countries has interests antagonistic in the first place to those of imperialism, and in the second place to those of the domestic backward feudal forces. Moreover, these feudal forces unite with imperialism in restricting and hampering the development of the national bourgeoisie. Therefore, the national bourgeoisie in these countries is revolutionary in a certain historical period and to a certain degree. Bourgeois nationalism in these countries has a decidedly progressive significance when the bourgeoisie mobilize the masses in the struggle against imperialism and the feudal forces. As Lenin pointed out (in a speech delivered at the Second Congress of the Eastern Peoples), nationalism of this type “ has historical justification ” . Therefore the proletariat, with the aim of overthrowing the rule of imperialism and the feudal forces, should collaborate with this bourgeois nationalism which plays a defiantly anti-imperialist and anti-feudal role provided, as Lenin said, that these allies do not hinder us in educating and organizing the peasantry and the broad masses of theexploited people in a revolutionary spirit. The clearest example of this type of collaboration was that which existed between the Chinese Communists and Sun Yat-sen.

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>>2301817
my tricep alone is bigger than your empty head although that's not so impressive considering your lack of chin pedo faggot



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>Was he any good before the IMF got him?

You never hear much about Madagascar. I know he tried liberalization after getting power back in a post-USSR world and it fucked him



 

Let's talk about the real elephant in the room. Both tankies and liberals are pushing a narrative that's not just outdated but most likely subverted.

>"Russia is fighting against Zionism and Israel!"

Russia's interested are at this point largely aligned with Israel's interests.
https://www.reuters.com/world/israel-lobbies-us-keep-russian-bases-weak-syria-sources-say-2025-02-28/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-shift-israel-votes-against-un-motion-reaffirming-ukraines-territorial-integrity/

>"Ukraine losing makes the Zios seethe!"

No it doesn't. Zionists want to redirect all funding to Ukraine to Israel instead. Likely they're gearing up for a war with Iran and don't want the US to have other military considerations.

>"Donald Trump makes the Zios seethe!"

Trump is an agent of Chabad-Lubavitch and the Russian-Jewish mafia. The Russia connection was actually real along, only that the liberals left out the detail of the very Jewish nature of this connection.

There's a new political axis forming with the USA-Israel-Russia, and the thing that binds it together is Chabad. This is the actual, real Jewish power in the world today, not some liberal Jewish comedian. Hell, Trump's own children became Jewish through Chabad.

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>>2302275
also, ironically, the post i am replying to has the same whiny tone and self-victimization that the poster attributes to jews; talk about projection lmao

>>2302275
Every marginalized group has thin skin. Look at autistic people, for instance.

>>2302288
i really think its any group. banning criticism, suppressing it from view by various means, and shouting down opposition is just a common fact of life, leftist groups do it too frankly. maybe i have a cynical view of human nature but all spaces of discussion have taboos or things that aren't allowed to be brought up, whether justified or not

>>2297110
Serbia, an ally of Russia, is also arming Israel. How does that fit into the narrative that pro-Israel equals pro-Ukraine?

>>2302648
Serbia is also arming Ukraine
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/05/29/stab-in-the-back-russian-spy-agency-accuses-serbia-of-supplying-arms-to-ukraine-a89272

The Serbian people hate Israel and would never arm Ukraine. but the politicians serve Israel and NATO interests. This is more evidence of the blackmail theory and buying of politicians



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Thoughts on Benjamin Tucker? Thoughts on his four monopolies?
>money
>land
>tariffs
>patents

Seems odd that he’s not more well remembered or respected but what does /leftypol/ think?

Another forgotten free market "socialist".
Nothing worth saying.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/benjamin-r-tucker-state-socialism-and-anarchism
petty bourgeois ameriKKKan he would be shot for capitalistic thought

>>2301582
Just another retard ancap.
Amerikkka was a mistake.

Nobody believes in free markets anyone, not even the right.



 

US to formalise military presence in Syria with new deal
According to a Syrian security source cited by Independent Arabia , the agreement will legitimise the American military presence in Syria with the approval of the Syrian government. The source stated that US forces will withdraw from all bases in northeastern Syria, including those in Deir Ezzor, Raqqa, and Hasakah.
https://www.newarab.com/news/us-formalise-military-presence-syria-new-deal

Gaza Aid Fund Halts Distribution on Friday; Israeli Army Limits Aid to Daytime Hours
The Israeli army announced Friday that access to aid distribution sites in the Gaza Strip will now be permitted only between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. According to the announcement by the IDF's Arabic spokesperson, Avichay Adraee, outside these hours, the sites will be considered closed military zones, and entry will be prohibited as it "poses a significant danger."
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-06/ty-article/u-s-backed-aid-group-halts-gaza-distribution-friday-idf-limits-aid-to-daytime-hours/00000197-45a8-d9f1-abb7-7dfca1650000
https://archive.ph/uMvO4

Israel’s US Broker Sells Record Debt for Nation During Gaza War
The war has stretched Israel’s public finances, and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government borrowed a record 278.4 billion shekels ($75.9 billion) overall last year. The Finance Ministry’s General Accountant Yali Rothenberg, who is responsible for managing Israel’s sovereign debt, told Bloomberg earlier this year the country’s needs should total about 200 billion shekels in 2025. Israel does most of its borrowing in the local bond market, where demand is driven by deep pocketed institutional investors. Last year it accounted for 80% of all lending, with the rest coming from international markets, private placements and Israel Bonds sales.
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Woman sues Atlanta officer for allegedly leaving her topless in squad car
A woman has sued an Atlanta police officer for allegedly leaving her breasts exposed while taking her from her house to a squad car – where she sat for several hours, topless, while officers stopped and looked at her, with one masked officer opening the car door to take a photo. The incident took place during a pre-dawn, Swat-style raid staged by Atlanta police and agents from the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (or ATF), on 8 February 2024. The agents sought evidence related to the arson of police motorcycles and cars, carried out in opposition to a controversial police training center known as “Cop City”, which has attracted local, national and internet media attention.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/06/atlanta-officer-sued

DOGE given access to Americans' Social Security data by Supreme Court
The ruling is a win for the Trump administration, which has charged the Department of Government Efficiency with rooting out alleged waste and fraud at the Social Security Administration. The unsigned majority opinion overturns a 9-6 decision from the entire Fourth Circuit that upheld a lower court's decision to temporarily block DOGE from accessing the data. U.S. District Judge Ellen Hollander, who issued the initial stay, had questioned why DOGE needed "unprecedented, unfettered access to virtually SSA's entire data systems."
https://www.axios.com/2025/06/06/doge-social-security-supreme-court

Kilmar Abrego Garcia returned to the US, charged with transporting people in the country illegally
“This administration … instead of simply admitting their mistake, they’ll stop at nothing at all, including some of the most preposterous charges imageable,” Sandoval-Moshenberg said. Ama Frimpong, legal director with the group CASA, said Abrego Garcia’s family has mixed emotions about his return to the U.S.
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How Morocco's high-stakes gamble on Israel could be its downfall
The arrival of Israeli Golani Brigade forces in Morocco for the African Lion 2025 military drills has triggered political shockwaves across North Africa. It is not simply the military presence of a foreign power, but rather the symbolic weight of hosting a unit accused of war crimes in Gaza that has crystallised widespread anger among Moroccan citizens. Since the Abraham Accords, Morocco has increasingly aligned with Israeli and US interests in the military, intelligence and surveillance domains. This normalisation has been framed by the regime as a strategic imperative to counterbalance Algeria and bolster its position in the Western Sahara. Israeli military expertise - especially in drone warfare and desert surveillance - is seen as key to gaining an operational edge over the Polisario Front. But this pursuit of strategic depth comes at the cost of a widening legitimacy gap. Morocco’s monarchy traditionally draws its legitimacy from religious symbolism, historical continuity, and the perception of national unity. By openly embracing Israeli forces - particularly units like Golani - the regime risks alienating wide swaths of the population and undermining its own national narrative. The paradox lies in the regime’s calculation: by asserting sovereignty and strategic relevance externally, it is eroding the foundations of consensus and cohesion internally. Why does the regime persist in this strategy, despite visible discontent? Rabat’s logic appears to rest on several intertwined factors, including geostrategic utility, particularly with regards to the military and technological benefits it can gain from partnering with Israel; western endorsement, including a pathway to preferential access to US and European military and security frameworks; and controlled pluralism, or the belief that dissent can be managed without fundamental policy changes. Normalisation is also viewed as another way to undermine the influence of Algiers.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/how-moroccos-high-stakes-gamble-israel-could-be-its-downfall

The Musk-Trump blood feud and the US political crisis
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Tybna

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>>2300889
>The source stated that US forces will withdraw from all bases in northeastern Syria, including those in Deir Ezzor, Raqqa, and Hasakah.
so the kurds are gonzo? gone? capoot?
damn, boy.

>>2301065
>so the kurds are gonzo? gone? capoot?
Any minute now. Just like every other time you have said so over the last decade.



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>How it feels being a leftcom knowing that millions of leftards will die in the next world war defending their favorite capitalist states with red flags while I hide in a bunker in rural Patagonia, eating Argentine beef jerky and playing emulated Switch games on my Steam Deck, and then emerge after the war to a population where breeding age women outnumber men like me in the millions
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Wrong. Imperialism is the death stage of capitalism. Socialism wins with most acute imperialist crisis
>>2300462
You are imperialist

You know that Patagonia is like the Aspen of Argentina, right? You can't just setup camp there, it's expensive as fuck lol

There were Soviet snipers that had 30 children after the war.

oh and btw, do you own a bunker in patagonia rn? wheres ur bunker op? ur getting drafted, ur whole leftcom movement is online, you were never in a street fight, all those ukrainian press videos, u will star in them and then get blown up by a drone haha

>>2300430

Argentina is AES (peronism, only temporarily experimenting with ancapism), proletarian defeatism doesn't apply here



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Realistically speaking, how much long do you guys think Xi has left to live? Enough to see the belt and road finished? And who will replace him? What if it’s some liberal wrecker?
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Daily thinly veiled sinophohia thread outside of /prc/.

>>2301474
>Xi forces everyone in the Party to watch this
kino

if he is healthy i say he could stay another 10-15 years.
i mean trump and biden are in their 80s right.
Or maybe some backstage haters might coup him for someone else

Putins getting pretty old too, going to be an interesting power vacuum when he is gone

>>2301474
nice. i heard good things about this documentary

>>2300849
Incredible, considering his dad was subjected to hard physical labor during the Cultural Revolution



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I’m new to communism so I wanna know what are communist and socialist stance on the police system. I heard some say that the part of the bourgeoisie I hear some say that they we need it the police system I in China I hear, anarcho communist scream all cops are bastards so I wanna know your guises opinion
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>>2300974
Reported for Han Chauvinism.

>>2299842
Every communist revolution requires the formation of a popular militia to serve the working class and assume power. What do you think of the Red Guard and the Red Army? Marxists do not see the state as a neutral entity separate from the class struggle. This is what Marx criticized Lassalle for when he said that he had a servile superstition towards the state because reconciliation between the social classes of property-owning exploiters and propertyless exploited is impossible. From this we can see that the state is an instrument of one class to oppress another. Therefore, we must oppose any power given to the bourgeois state to repress workers and communists. In the dictatorship of the proletariat, revolutionary terror must be initiated so that all private property becomes collective, counterrevolutionaries are punished, and the threat of imperialist capitalist sabotage is prevented. The capitalist state defends private property and the domination of capital, while the socialist state defends collective property and the domination of the proletariat with the dictatorship of the proletariat.

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>>2300823
>communism will be a perfect scifi fantasy world

>>2299861
trvthnvke, serial killers as a phenomenon didn't exist until the late 19th century

>>2301457
It will be though. Obviously there will still be some problems but we can make this world a paradise



 

The culture of Leftypol should exceed the forum for the real The leftist space should serve as a bulwark against the current right-wing resurgence. This site, Leftypol, though not always serious, remains one of the few remaining sanctuaries of the contemporary left. Naturally, we support it. I believe every image should be accompanied by the communist flag as a banner, or the anarchist flag as a standard
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>>2300628
Half the people on this site are feds, I am not sure what planet you are living on.

>>2300970
>former mod
>glownonymous
Hmmm

>>2301027
Am I a fed?

>culture
mods please ban this fake word, its just a thought terminating cliche for radlibs

>>2301096
When I hear the word culture, I reach for my gun
>>2301040
Would make sense for anyone to hide their IP.
And if someone knows some of the inner workings of this place, it's likely. I would never have my real IP on the books here. Not cause of the feds, who you can't do too much about, really (tho I doubt this country's feds are all that menacing on that front) and I can't imagine they give a shit about this here place.
But besides the general risk of subversion, I think a catastrophic, uncontrolled data breach is not really unlikely here.
I think it's funny btw that the glownonymous moniker doesn't just denote someone with some measure of paranoia (and/or habitual trollposter) but also a certain level of incompetence. There is way easier, better ways to achieve the same result, since this captcha on tor was instituted.
>>2300970
>taking this place too seriously is one of my bigger regrets in life
Then you haven't enough regrets

Ordinarily I would report this thread but you know
the button does nothing
I forgot why I even entered this thread…
Oh, what in the hell are you even talking about OP



 

A thread devoted for the bourgeois politics of syndicalism, its anti-communist history and grand failures.

Rosa's Reform or Revolution helps to explain it along with Lenin's What is to be Done.

Those who concentrate the attention, observation, and consciousness of the working class exclusively, or even mainly, upon itself alone are not Social-Democrats; for the self-knowledge of the working class is indissolubly bound up, not solely with a clear theoretical understanding–or rather, not so much with the theoretical, as with the practical, understanding–of the relationships between all the various classes of modern society, acquired through the experience of political life…in order to become a Social-Democrat, the worker must have a clear picture in his mind of the economic nature and the social and political features of the landlord and the priest, the high state official and the peasant, the student and the vagabond; he must know their strong and weak points; he must grasp the meaning of all the catchwords and sophisms by which each class and each stratum camouflages its selfish strivings and its real "inner workings"; he must understand what interests are reflected by certain institutions and certain laws and how they are reflected. -Lenin

"ᴉuᴉlossnW is a man no less extraordinary than Lenin. -Georges Sorel"
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>>2301116
I think this post says more about how you view furries than about the politics of leftypol.

>>2301116
This site has become full of some of the most miserable cunts I've ever interacted with online

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>>2301023
This is such an absurd claim considering Sorel was probably the most anti-social-democratic socialist thinker of all time, there is no more thorough diatribe against reformism and the foundations it is built upon than exists in Reflections on Violence.

“Against this noisy, garrulous and lying socialism, which is exploited by ambitious people of every description, which amuses a few buffoons and is admired by decadents, stands revolutionary syndicalism… The groups that are struggling against each other must be shown to be as separate as possible; finally, the movements of the revolting masses are presented so as to make a deep and lasting impression on the souls of the rebels… There is thus no longer any place for the reconciliation of opposites through the nonsense of official thinkers; everything is clearly mapped out, so that only one interpretation of socialism is possible.”

“The syndicalists do not propose to reform the State… they want to destroy it… On this issue, it is impossible that there should be the slightest understanding between the syndicalists and the official socialists; the latter speak of breaking up everything, but they attack the men in power rather than power itself…”

“Whole pages could be filled with the contradictory, comical and quack arguments… the most absolute intransigence with the most supple opportunism… parliamentary socialists can succeed in imposing themselves upon the public only through their gibberish.”

Sorel did not, like Bolshevist and Social-Democratic Marxists, see political separatism simply as something imposed on the socialist movement by the very structure of society. He went further in regarding political separatism as the morally most appropriate form of social and political organization. Only where a group drew sharply defined boundary lines around itself could it lead a moral life. Only where it regarded itself as bound by no moral obligations to other sections of the population could it perform its moral duty. For moral duty entails, in substance, hostility towards those outside one's own group, not just hidden rancor and bitterness but open aggressiveness. No modern political writer of any intellectual stature has gone further than Sorel in denying the validity of any class collaboration. The very content of morPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2301010
Sorelianism is a theory of Syndicalism but Syndicalism isn't necessarily sorelianism, Syndicalism is a praxis not a theory, just like how it can either be imbued with anarchism, fascism or marxism

>>2301058
Sounds incredible.
The most we had in Britain was 121 bookshop in Railton Road, Brixton (London). The worst anyone said about,I think in the old "alternative london" book. Or it might have been in "City Limits" magazine. it was a review of a co-op cafe they had there:
<erratic service
As far as firearms, Albert Meltzer, the anarcho-syndicalist, wrote in his biography that 121 bookshop got robbed a few times with knives. But then they put out the word they were going to defend themselves with the guns as the anarchist movements disposal. Apparently it was a bluff (which worked) ,they didn't have any guns.



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