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 No.1264963[Reply]

>The feeling of personal obligation has its origin in the oldest and most primitive personal relationship there is, in the relationship between seller and buyer, creditor and debtor. Here for the first time one person moved up against another person, here an individual measured himself against another individual. We have found no civilization still at such a low level that something of this relationship is not already perceptible. To set prices, to measure values, to think up equivalencies, to exchange things—that preoccupied man’s very first thinking to such a degree that in a certain sense it’s what thinking itself is. Here the oldest form of astuteness was bred; here, too, we can assume are the first beginnings of man’s pride, his feeling of pre-eminence in relation to other animals. Perhaps our word “man” (manas) continues to express directly something of this feeling of the self: the human being describes himself as a being which assesses values, which values and measures, as the “inherently calculating animal.” Selling and buying, together with their psychological attributes, are even older than the beginnings of any form of social organizations and groupings; out of the most rudimentary form of personal legal rights the budding feeling of exchange, contract, guilt, law, duty, and compensation was instead first transferred to the crudest and earliest social structures (in their relationships with similar social structures), along with the habit of comparing power with power, of measuring, of calculating.
Both Adam Smith and Nietzsche anticipate Levi-Strauss’s famous argument that language is the “exchange of words.” The remarkable thing here is that so many have managed to convince themselves that in all this, Nietzsche is providing a radical alternative to bourgeois ideology, even to the logic of exchange. Deleuze and Guattari, most embarrassingly, insist that "the great book of modern ethnology is not so much Mauss’ The Gift as Nietzsche’s On the Genealogy of Morals. At least it should be," since, they say, Nietzsche succeeds in interpreting "primitive society" in terms of debt, where Mauss still hesitates to break with the logic of exchange. Of course what Nietzsche proposes is not an alternative at all. It’s another aspect of the same thing. All this is a vivid reminder of how easy it is to mistake radicalized forms of our own bourgeois tradition as alternatives to it (Bataille, who Deleuze and Guattari also praiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>1267718
>I swear to god all you people do is say tings with authority and convince yourselves by nothing but your own arrogance that ii is true.
it's what happens when they shun academic inquiry as bourgeois out of some quasi-radical anti-intellectualism the result is close-mindedness being seen as a virtue and undue confidence in one's own views being mistaken for correctness. hence why none of them have actually read the book, or nietzsche for that matter

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>>1267723
>way to prove you don't read.
To expect people to recognize a quote from a random book is an absurdly high standard that you certainly can't meet either.

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>>1267981
not random, it's one of the most relevant books on the left in the last 30 years. you guys just read all 100 year old stuff

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>>1267739
who is this even strawmanning?

evola is like injecting spooks as an ideology



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 No.1267923[Reply]

Comrades, I think it is time to address this slogan "landback." The stipulation of landback is simply "give all the land back to the indigenous people." It is catchy and a lot of people have put it in their twitter bios. Is it a viable political program?

No, of course not. It is ridiculous. Undoubtedly the United States and Canada are both individually a prison house of nations. Socialist revolution in these countries would have to account for oppressed nations. They would have to have their own voice in whatever sort of revolutionary government would form.

The landback advocates have no real, feasible plan. Merely "giving all the land back" is so hyperbolic. Give it all back? All the land taken since 1492? And who would occupy this land? And where would everyone else go? To Europe? Would Europe accept hundreds of millions of white Americans?

It is an inflammatory slogan, too, and unfortunately it has the capacity to alienate a large section of the working class. It is undeniable that indigenous people are their own nations, and that as oppressed nations, their struggle with self determination would coincide with our struggle against imperialism and capitalism. They would absolutely need a seat at the table. But let's be real: nobody can give them the entire table. It would be completely unfeasible.
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Also, landback is a perfectly viable political program. It has been tried multiple times.

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>>1269379
>It has been tried multiple times.
Not in a country where the group being removed made up 99% of the population.

 No.1269401

I propose that all white yankees be sent back to Manchester, the black ones to Liberia, the brown/asian ones are all gusanos and should be sent back to their respective countries in order to face justice. All Mexicans should be deported first to Mexico, then the non-indigenous "people" of Mexico should be sent back to Spain/the Canary islands. All white Canadians should be relocated to Quebec, which can exist as a reservation/zoo for the new ruling people.

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>>1269379
>>1269388
A lot of people seem not to undesrtand how unique of a situation the genocides in north america are. Like… where else in recorded history did someone show up and just WIPE THE SLATE CLEAN of (almost) everybody? The nazis wanted to with lebensraum but they failed.

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>>1269401
>I propose that all white yankees be sent back to Manchester
I cant wait. The night of the long knives will have nothing on this shit.



 No.1262933[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What is America's end-goal with making up a completely fake genocide? What do they seek to accomplish with it?
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>>1268296
here's an actual US military official admitting that ETIM was used to interrupt belt and road initiative. kill your self.

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>>1268296
here's the source for the quote in the original french, which was listed in the fucking image you claimed had no source. Kill yourself.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article165889.html

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>>1267641
Interesting how you manage do wrap up your burger propaganda ("debt trap", Xinjiang "colonized") in radical lefty lingo. Very smooth.

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>>1269574
do you actually have a dispute with the information or are you just mad people post images on imageboards

there are a expat/refugee Uyghurs that have ties to ETIM and even have ISIS affiliated flags in their testimonial videos that are funded and backed by US and Turkey to travel to Afghanistan and Syria for terrorist training

and "speaking out" is not evidence of "a systematic human rights abuse campaign"

 No.1269619

>>1268296
here's a full English translation of the interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski
https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2013/04/20/the-cias-founding-of-al-qaeda-documented/



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 No.1251101[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Real Human Bean edition

Crying alone in the bathroom because you lost a re-election bid after 4 years of relentless cronyism, vote-buying and graft is the most human thing we can do.

old bread >>>/leftypol_archive/566487
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>>1269427
Oq está acontecendo aqui?

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>>1269858
A saga do patriota maconheiro.

 No.1270821

ALELUIA! Xandão botou o tabaco na mesa!

> O ministro Alexandre de Moraes, determinou o bloqueio de todas as contas bancárias de 43 empresas que participaram de atos golpistas.


https://nitter.kavin.rocks/Trom_Petista/status/1593045224892534785

 No.1271415

Picas pro próximo fio.

 No.1272297

fio novo/new thread

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>>1271415
Obrigado pela idéia, anão, mas, sem querer ser maleducado, eu não estou a fim de glorificá-lo.



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Chileans Remember the Murder of Camilo Catrillanca
In Santiago and other cities, citizens held marches and rallies to remember the Indigenous leader who was assassinated in 2018 during the government of President Sebastian Piñera. "The Mapuche community member Camilo Catrillanca was murdered by a Carabinero. This crime was covered up by other police officers, who also attacked a teenager who was accompanying him," the Chilean Human Rights Institute said.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Chileans-Remember-the-Murder-of-Camilo-Catrillanca-20221115-0008.html

In Brazil, Bolsonaro voters protest against his defeat
Tens of thousands of Brazilians wearing yellow and green, the colors of the national flag, gathered Tuesday across the country to protest against President Jair Bolsonaro’s defeat in last month’s election and asking for the armed forces to intervene. In Rio de Janeiro, Brazilians flocked outside a regional military facility to denounce what they see as an unfair or stolen election, defying a recent Supreme Court order to free up roads and public spaces. None of the institutions certified to audit the election, including the Ministry of Defense and Brazilian Bar Association, have found evidence of fraud.
https://apnews.com/article/jair-bolsonaro-caribbean-brazil-4e88b842b421f0e1b2a5462694fba031

Environment Agency staff to strike over pay for first time in organisation’s history
ENVIRONMENT Agency staff are to strike over pay for the first time in the organisation’s 26-year history. Public-sector union Unison represents 2,800 agency staff in England whose responsibilities include the Thames Barrier, coastal defences, managing flood risks, and river and sea pollution oversight. They have a rejected a 2 per cent pay increase and a one-off £345 payment and want an inflation-proof pay increase.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/environment-agency-staff-to-strike-over-pay-forPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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TYBNA

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White House requests $37.7 billion in new Ukraine funding, $10 billion for Covid relief
The White House is requesting nearly $40 billion in new funding from Congress to support Ukraine and an additional $10 billion for pandemic relief. The figure includes $21.7 billion for defense purposes like equipment and military support, $14.5 billion in direct funding for the country’s government and humanitarian aid, $626 million in energy assistance and $900 million for health care.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/15/white-house-requests-37point7-billion-in-ukraine-funding-10-billion-for-covid.html

Portland Starbucks that voted to unionize will close
"This is the most egregious anti-union tactic and it is a blatant violation of the right of workers to unionize free from retaliation under the National Labor Relations Act," wrote Maine AFL-CIO president Cynthia Phinney. The closure comes about a week after the National Labor Relations Board accused Chipotle of closing its Augusta shop after employees there voted to form a union. The National Labor Relations Board said the chain should reopen the location and rehire the employees.
https://www.wmtw.com/article/portland-starbucks-that-voted-to-unionize-will-close/41971293

Arizona measure gives non-citizens in-state college tuition
Arizona voters have approved an initiative to extend cheaper in-state college tuition to some non-citizen students, cheering supporters who hope the measure’s passage Monday will help spark momentum for wider immigration reform in Congress. The Associated Press called the race for Proposition 308 after the latest round of vote releases gave it a big enough lead that the AP determined it could not lose. Arizona joins at least 18 other states, including California and Virginia, that offer in-state tuition to all students who otherwise qualify regardless of immigration status.
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‘If You Can’t Exclude Someone, Do You Even Own It?’
He feels boxed in by the state. The 150 or so protesters standing with him were largely in agreement on that point: They held posters reading “Small landlord lives matter” and “Give landlords due process now.” The consensus among the crowd was that the bias against landlords had reached a fever pitch and was coming from all directions — the governor, the state legislature, the courts, and the general public. In the nearly three years since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, millions of tenants have engaged in rent strikes, whether declared or de facto, while membership in tenant unions and building associations ballooned. Somewhere in all of this tension between renters and owners, more landlords began to publicly embrace the language of a protected class being ignored, or worse, by its elected officials. The battle lines were reflected in the press: In the New York Daily News, a Realtor wrote that “landlords are people too” and claimed a kind of financial symmetry between struggling tenants and their struggling landlords who were “barely able to meet their own family’s needs for food, housing, and utilities.” An estimated 28 percent of New York City’s 2.3 million rental units are held by landlords who own fewer than five properties, which is what passes for a mom-and-pop shop in a city of megadevelopers and private-equity ownership. As of 2019, only 13 percent of units were rented out by a landlord with just one home in their portfolio. Even so, this fraction of the industry has become the face of an emerging political identity among property owners: the underdog landlord, a struggling, small-scale operator hobbled by the political status quo. They’re drowning in debt, in danger of losing their homes over missed payments or rent caps, and facing routine abuse from tenants and the scorn of the greater public. And that morning, the assembled landlords were ready to fight back.
https://www.curbed.com/2022/11/landlords-chip-rent-regulation-new-york-scotus.html
https://archive.ph/ecIni

Doug Ford underestimated the power of workers—but so did union leaders
There are moments when the incredible power of united working class action isPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thanks News Anon

 No.1269376

SAD!



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 No.1269255[Reply]

AAAAUUUUGGGGGGGHHHHHHH HELP ME I DON'T WANT TO DIE IN A FROZEN SHITHOLE I JUST WANT TO DECAY SLOWLY IN MY OWN HOME HELP ME HOW DO I DODGE THE DRAFT HOW I DON'T WANNA DIE AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEE

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Lol

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 No.1262239[Reply]

If there’s one thing MLs are great at, it’s dividing our already limited numbers into several smaller parties and weakening our collective power and influence. Ideally, we should be able to coalesce inside a broad tent Marxist-Leninist party, with a policy line broad enough to avoid pointless sectarianism and specific enough to be a powerful and coherent political organisation. Each country/territory should have just ONE such recognised party.

ITT we can debate and discuss which party deserves this status in our respective countries. Personally, I think the following criteria should be applied

>Size of membership - unless there is a very compelling reason to not, we should give strong priority to a party substantially larger than any others in terms of membership and/or electoral representation (if applicable)

>Historical legacy - again, unless there is a reason to not, the party with the longest and richest history of communist organisation should be given priority
>Membership of international organisations - the party with the greatest links to our comrade parties across the world, and with the closest ties to AES states

In most cases, applying the above three criteria should come to a clear answer in most countries. Additionally, there are a number of factors that should be counted against potential candidates

>Trot orgs are non-starters as broad tent organisations for reasons which have already been argued endlessly

>Maoist organisations, while not being automatically discredited (especially in the third world, in which they are sometimes the most appropriate candidate in terms of size, history, and international ties), we should be greatly skeptical of Maoist parties which feel to need to split the communist movement when a perfectly decent big-tent ML party already exists
>Historical position centred parties - parties which define their policy line through historical debates, such as Stalinist/anti-revisionist/Hoxhaist parties, which specifically frame their political line on the lines of “we are the only ML party to openly support X historical figure, or to oppose Z incorrect tendency”. We should be able to cope with relatively minor ideological deviances within a broad tent ML party, and we should be able to accept the party Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.1269071

>>1269065
Most of the online shitflinging I see from American leftists is from CPUSA or DSA members. I very rarely see any type of shitflinging online from PSL members. I can't speak to FRSO or PCUSA. But that is anecdotal. Even still, people should actually read the position that PSL has on it and at least understand their rationale.
https://www.liberationschool.org/social-media-and-democratic-centralism-opportunities-and-challenges/

 No.1269086

>>1263791
You can still join my party even if you think china is somehow communist, so long as you submit to the majority plan of action.

 No.1269114

>>1269032
>You don't want the feds to see from your twitter posts that there is a major disagreement about the party line in the party because those are weaknesses that they can actively exploit.
This argument only works if you ignore a glaring fact:
If you have democratic centralism as you describe, then all or most party members will know about it. This also means the feds placed in your org, probably on a position relatively high, will also know. All this measure does is asphyxiate the discussion because its constantly banned progressively more, out of fear of leaking, every time someone inevitably finds out, until its too late.
Its just paranoia that has no bearing on reality. Unless your party is actively in a civil war, you dont need this level of smoke and mirrors. And if you are, you cannot have the level of discussion or democratic centralism you describe anyway, since war situations demand lockstep and highly compartmentalized organization.

>>1269065
Both of you, it seems much weaker to have our current situation. A situation wherein everything seems to go well, until suddenly it turns out there is an extreme rift at the top, leading to purges, a public fallout and a split. This hurts your image much more than being open from the start about there being differences of opinion within the party on certain topics. Knowing when and where to have heated debates is something that can fit perfectly fine with open discussions. Any communist worth their salt will know if they are in a situation where they should unify and preach the majority line, or in a situation where differences are allowed to exist.

 No.1269133

why would any irl organization want the approval of this board's members is beyond me

 No.1269149

>>1269086
makes sense to me

i don't even really see a problem with joining marxist ancoms in the case that they were the majority in a region and were to adhere democratic centralism and a united front for common goals. its like the bird with two wings but not shitty. leftcoms too can serve as a reminder for what direction we are headed

its really seems inconsequential if you arent getting direct material support and funding



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 No.1266856[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

RECENT NEWS

>Only tiny fraction of US military aircraft met mission capable rate goals in FY21

https://breakingdefense.com/2022/11/only-a-tiny-fraction-of-us-military-aircraft-met-mission-capable-rate-goals-in-fy21-government-watchdog-finds/

>Britain has frozen 18 billion pounds worth of Russian assets

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britain-says-it-has-frozen-18-billion-pounds-worth-russian-assets-2022-11-10/

>Advisor to Ukrainian President Zelensky: "Actions speak louder than words. We see no signs that Russia is leaving Kherson without a fight."

https://facteroid.com/timeline/5726

>Russia on 'irreversible' path to clash with West, France says

https://euobserver.com/world/156409

>Moscow sets out conditions for talks with EU

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>>1268659
Now I want nuclear holocaust, because I will never have to suffer a NATO lib ever again, regardless if I live or die.

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 No.1269028

Ukraine bombed Poland lol

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>>1267111
I wonder how many layers and levels we have in-between those and accepting it.



 No.1268762[Reply]

EASTERN EUROPE POLITICS
Thread for the hellish discussion related to the greatest , based , glorious curapt , reactionary and poor part of Europe

☭ 🥃🥴(Don't need an Eastern Europol)

 No.1268765

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shit thread
boycotting

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>>1268765
What ever westoid

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 No.1209376[Reply]

Do you think Japan betrayed the global south too much to be trusted as a non imperial core country? Especially with its turn to fascism in the 20th century and its constant friendship with the imperial core. Is it too late for Japan?
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>>1267402
It was imperial core by 1895

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>>1267592
You got any reading recs about this

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>>1267351
>Them woodblock prints were pretty fuckin cool tbf
I very highly recomend going to see some when on display at local museum. Stunning.

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>>1268606
aren't they just prints?

 No.1268657

>>1268631
Yeah, they're prints. Pretty commercial too, often used for advertisement or as souvenir for tourists. Still pretty good.



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