/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2898152
WW1 clearly was the reason behind Hitlers rise to power, it really doesnt matter what flavour of SPD/KPD you have when the membership is composed of people who work behind the counter of a deli vs the friekrops membership being mostly ww1 veterans who take glee in beating the prior groups to death.

The German left needed to capture this group, they failed and Hitler was the result, very little of what the USSR could have done short of invading them would have helped.

>>2898155
It went both ways tho and probably wasn't simply a result of orders from Moscow to the KPD. Even when they all shared barracks in the KL some of these guys were still beefing, so I think the dispute ran deep.

>>2898159
The failure of the German revolution doomed everything tbh

>>2898156
No, the reason for Hitler was the SPD. Ebert, Scheidemann and Noske betrayed the workers and ended the revolution for the bourgeosie, ruined the economy causing mass unemployment, hyper inflation and hunger, went violently against the entire worker's movement while they let the SA and reactoid paramilitaries grow during their Weimar reign and last but not least prevented Thälmann from becoming president in favour of reactoid Hindenburg. Hindenburg installed Hitler. The SPD along their bourgeois liberal coalition partners paved the way for fascism to take over.

>>2897573
>the bolsheviks allowed their army to be led by a fascist during the civil war
astounding slander and mental gymnastics lol

>>2897190
bump

Then vote for trump

>>2895835
Now, to give courtesy to your concern, it is true that reading the work of Antoine Montchrétien is unproductive to the ends of Communism - but it is also entirely impractical to achieve a political revolution by reading as such. The conflict of theory and practice is absolute in any case. While we are reading, we are not acting, and it cannot be otherwise. Education is then a passive exercise, but still valuable. I would say that reading is also better than writing, as evidenced by social media. Marx himself overwrote much of his work into obscurity.

>>2895665
>So it would be better to burn the world's libraries and throw all of the relics of the past into the ocean to start again with a little red book?

Probably.

>>2895946
Anon that's pretty dumb considering Marx himself was a classics major

>>2895858
it's funny how much time Marx dedicated to Stirner

Luther begins by chastising merchants as prone to the inevitable sin of greed, but nevertheless sees its need:
<It is not to be denied that buying and selling are necessary. They cannot be dispensed with and can be practiced in a Christian manner, especially when the articles of trade serve a necessary and honourable purpose. For in this wise even the patriarchs bought and sold cattle, wool, grain, butter, milk, and other goods. These are gifts of God, which He bestows out of the earth and distributes among men.
https://www.truecovenanter.com/truelutheran/luther_trade_and_usury.phtml
Thus he qualifies trade, which where it serves need and honour, is a blessing, but as he continues, it becomes unnecessary where it gives license to trade of "foreign" luxuries, in particular (which he describes as having "no useful purpose"), which transfer Germany's gold and silver out of the country; by the Frankfurt fair (e.g. an international marketplace) which Luther describes as:
<Frankfurt is the golden and silver hole through which everything that springs and grows, is minted or coined here, flows out of Germany.
https://www.truecovenanter.com/truelutheran/luther_trade_and_usury.phtml
And so he has a preliminary concern with the wealth of his nation, in a proto-Mercantilist sense of balancing trade. He continues that if this market was ended, then the people would no longer be robbed by usury, either. However, he submits to the market, saying "we Germans must remain Germans"; which is to say, in their habits of vice; as he later writes, concerns "drinking and dancing".

The next part deals with "unrighteous prices", which as he writes, begins in the common motto: "I shall sell my wares as dear as I can." We read in Ibn Khaldun (1377) that the merchant's method is to 'buy low and sell high,' and so as a matter of common sense, this is his profit. Luther sees that merchandising is by nature sinful in its greedy formulations, and further, he writes this about it:
<On this basis trade can be nothing else than robbing and stealing other people's property.
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>>2896820
Your arguments are moralistic attempts to justify opportunism, as if Chinese capitalists, or those of any other nationality, would not integrate with American and European imperialist capitalism, following the logic of capital accumulation to turn a profit. The Marxist position centers on controlling the means of production, not on obsessing over distribution. Steel mills are means of production; the Marxist position is to demand even greater public control, 100% of these industries, without compensation, since the capitalists themselves are conceding that nationalizations are necessary.

It does not matter if state capitalism is used in the interests of the capitalists. You must critique the economic public policy of state-owned enterprise management without conceding anything to capitalists and their agents; this means that there must be demands including the democratization of these public companies with 100% state control and not being misled into wanting to remove politics from the economy out of personal resentment. “removing politics from the economy” always means handing the economy over to financial capital so that bourgeois democracy cannot be used as a tool to challenge imperialist capitalism, thereby reinforcing the illusions of bourgeois ideas that the policies of the bourgeoisie are a natural law beyond question and increasing the false consciousness of the masses.

If there is no workers' party in your country then you should create this party following this quote from Marx about what communists are:

<The Communists are distinguished from the other working-class parties by this only: 1. In the national struggles of the proletarians of the different countries, they point out and bring to the front the common interests of the entire proletariat, independently of all nationality. 2. In the various stages of development which the struggle of the working class against the bourgeoisie has to pass through, they always and everywhere represent the interests of the movement as a whole.

<The Communists, therefore, are on the one hand, practically, the most advanced and resolute section of the working-class parties of every country, that section which pushes forward all others; on the other hand, theoretically, they have over the great mass of Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2897713
i'm not a britbong and i have no idea who any of those people are

>>2897715
I mean if in the end being in or outside the EU doesn't change shit,why is every brit on this site butthurt about Brexit ?

>>2897680
Wrong. Bourgeois organizations are not tolerated, as they are obstacles that must be destroyed; they stand in the way of overthrowing the bourgeois state to establish the dictatorship of the proletariat. The United Kingdom should not rely on imports; instead, it should utilize state-owned enterprises and state capitalism to facilitate the seizure of the means of production, which must be nationalized to enable the socialization of the economy. Promoting job security, wage equalization, and the elimination of all forms of precarious labor, while expanding labor rights and mandating unionization for all workers—will dispel the prejudices held by the masses.

A slogan you could use in your country to attract the lumpenproletariat and other workers would be: repeal and modify laws that prevent the radicalization of unions in order to intensify the class struggle; create a workers' statistical commission with mandatory members of workers without bourgeois or apolitical technocrats to calculate workers' wages according to the price of food and necessities so that inflation does not affect workers; abolish indirect taxes linked to working-class consumption so that these workers begin to lose superstitions of the state; judicial democratization of lawyers for the working class; forced unionization of the working population; equalization of unions to avoid traitors conspiring and selling themselves to the bourgeoisie without solidarity with their class in the leadership of these unions; solidarity in judicial judgments of unpaid wages along with any type of further intensified exploitation; defend the labor rights of immigrant workers with compensation for the victims and severe punishment for the capitalist even if the victims say it is voluntary and they do not have class consciousness to fight for their labor rights; defending the guarantee of public employment is also good.

Nationalizations without compensation, along with various actions to remove the role of profit in the needs of the population and increase public participation, should always be discussed. Don't forget to always talk about nationalizing all private banks. As much as possible, the country must avoid depending on raw materials from abroad for energy (sovereignty in food, energy, financial and industrial production must be paramount to avoid dependence on imperialismPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2897713
These political parties supporting Lexit prove that they are better and braver in abandoning superstitions about the state that you will never be, this includes against apologists for the European Union. With this they gain a positive point with me on my list.

In addition, let's take a quote from Engels about the petty bourgeoisie and the working classes that existed before the industrial revolution:

<6 . What working classes were there before the industrial revolution?

<The working classes have always, according to the different stages of development of society, lived in different circumstances and had different relations to the owning and ruling classes.

<In antiquity, the workers were the slaves of the owners, just as they still are in many backward countries and even in the southern part of the United States.

<In the Middle Ages, they were the serfs of the land-owning nobility, as they still are in Hungary, Poland, and Russia. In the Middle Ages, and indeed right up to the industrial revolution, there were also journeymen in the cities who worked in the service of petty bourgeois masters. Gradually, as manufacture developed, these journeymen became manufacturing workers who were even then employed by larger capitalists.
[…]
<9 . In what way do proletarians differ from handicraftsmen?

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'Stop gaslighting me!': Florida Democrats' Senate nominee and party chair have heated call over socialism
"Nikki wants her to back away from DSA, from socialism," said one person who spoke with Nixon. "She's listening to other people saying that they're afraid, they're scared — the Jewish members and the Hispanic caucus. But to Angie, Nikki doesn't want Angie to be who Angie is. Angie has already done the backing-away." On the call, Nixon told Fried, "You never gave a care about me from the beginning, and now you're telling me how to run my campaign?" according to the source. At one point, the source said, Nixon yelled, "stop gaslighting me!"
https://www.axios.com/2026/08/21/florida-democrats-angie-nixon-nikki-fried-socialism
https://archive.ph/8C0bC

US Postal Service issues rules to tighten mail-in voting if court gives OK
USPS said it ‌was issuing its 95-page rule so it could take immediate effect if a court lifted its injunctions on it and be in place for the upcoming election. Under the rule, USPS would not deliver ballots in ​states that do not comply with the rule's new standards.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-postal-service-issues-rules-tighten-mail-in-voting-if-court-gives-ok-2026-08-22/

Trump threatens $5bn lawsuit over liberal national guard policy report
The report released 13 July argues that the National Guard deployment in Washington DC, Memphis and Los Angeles failed to have a measurable impact on crime in these cities despite an estimated cost of $1.7bn. The report looks at the falling rate of crime in cities without a National Guard intervention and concludes that they are not statistically different from the rate of decrease in those that had the intervention, noting that violent crime began falling well before Trump took office in 2025.
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A Look Back at SDS, Michael Harrington and the Decline of Marxism
According to a familiar narrative, protest is a kind of parlor game of privileged students. When it occurs on Ivy League campuses, it gets its fair share of attention, creating an impression that social/political movements based on long tradition have their point of origin there. (The 170 students arrested at the City College of New York’s Gaza encampment on April 30, 2024, largely people of color, had a median family income less than a quarter of that of the students arrested at Columbia. The news coverage—of their pepper spraying—and reported tasering—and broken teeth and bones—was delayed a few days and then relegated to the back pages. (See Sarah Baum in the Progressive Magazine) In Campus Wars, Kenneth J. Heineman points out that student mobilization against the Vietnam War–and in support of free speech and the right to organize on campus–arose initially at publicly funded state universities. Enmeshed in a hot war and a cold war, awash in DoD grants for war-related research, the universities assumed a division of labor: Elite schools turned out foreign policy “experts”; while state schools supplied teachers and engineers for the home front as well as international policing experts needed to shore up the unpopular South Vietnamese government.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2026/08/21/a-look-back-at-sds-michael-harrington-and-the-decline-of-marxism/

Liberalism’s Cult of the Individual Has Failed Us
Is it better to “bowl alone” than to join anything that smacks of a sect? Were the New Deal’s Works Progress Administration and Civilian Conservation Corps, which put millions to work rebuilding their country, just state-sanctioned “cults?” According to one prominent liberal: maybe! In an article entitled “No, Senator Murphy, I don’t want to join your cult,” Jerusalem Demsas, the liberal publisher of The Argument magazine, goes after Democratic Senator Chris Murphy for daring to argue that we ought to have some shared social commitment to the public good. For Murphy, Americans — particularly young men — are living through an epidemic of loneliness that’s not only corroding our democracy but destroying the social bonds that hold our society together. These men, parPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2856496
the black panthers are a bunch of overblown dead end achivenothing soydems too so i cant even imagine what the white ones are

>>2856496
Point 2 is just do liberalism harder. America already did point 9.

>>2856496
the black panthers were so disruptive and revolutionary apple and warner bros made a documentary praising them

>>2897747
I say this and look like this

>>2897396
>you admitted you never read anything i posted.
not what happened. another anon said they did not read your post with the tik tok. meanwhile i read your posts and they were wrong. also you keep shifting goalposts to get away from the simple and obvious fact that working class people in all countries very obviously have sex with each other and reproduce, otherwise the working class would not be able to reproduce itself. no tik toks of bourgeois women ragebaiting by saying "i dont want no scrub who pirates movies" can prove to the contrary

>>2897421
finnokoreanhyperwarsisters….

>>2897383
Liberal point of view. We are at an age where there is a vast ontological change. The collective is beginning. We are starting to experience things as a collective, a class, not individuals.
If you cannot put the proletariat before yourself you will never make it.

>>2897468
Delusional, with individuated algorithms we experience the world even more individually than any generation beforehand

>>2895406
The epic predates the novel form and reveals that understanding fiction through the novel is not necessary. Regardless the novel's preeminence is a product of the age of alienation and capitalism, there is no articifially replacing it. Only through the collective building of communism can new mediums of translating the human experience be born. The question is not how can we replace the novel, but instead how can novelists turn the novel into a useful tool for building communism. My response was more against the idea that good literature can be made only by reactionaries rather than arguing we should abolish the novel entirely, that would be idealism.

>>2897267
>barely anyone watches
marxists are a tiny percentage of the market. and most likely poor, will pirate the film. i don't give a shit about property rights, but the sums are not adding. and most likely will call it shitty, slop, reactionary or bourgious anyway because it doesn't subsribe to their specific tendnecy

>>2897335
Leftist filmmakers don't make movies for other marxists, you mong.

>>2897345
thats what people on here are always complaining about though

>>2897345
All the french ones in the 60's did lol

Moved to >>>/siberia/816987.

>>2897111
The ideal is closer to the Paris commune and Marx laid out for Germany

>>2897185
socialism is everything and nothing at the same time. The term has become butchered

>>2897179
> randomly allocate everyone random goods, then allow them to trade them at will
People will view that as a burden and hate it overnight.

>>2897136
>the public are being unreasonable
you can thank Freud's nephew on how to deal with that.