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Sounds crazy, I know, but I think Xi-fans should at least consider the flaws of China's "Do nothing, win" strategy, and how it may paradoxically still lead to its undoing.

The US bourgeoisie knows it can't beat China in head-on conventional warfare. So, it doesn't.

Porky has put a lot of effort since the Vietnam War to avoid making Amerikkkans feels the impacts of US wars of aggression to great success. Despite the amount of conflicts the US is involved in as we speak, anti-war sentiment is negligable. There was nothing like the anti-war movement during Vietnam, which by itself wasn't even strong enough to end the war either. It was the Vietnamese who militarily defeated the US that ended the war.

Amerikkkan reliance on proxies and mercs is the key to maintain the Empire. If they can make China's neighbours fight them in their stead, they they can win, and have East Asia plundered, like they have plundered Eastern Europe since the 90s, to give capitalism another 50 years.

China has failed to counter this problem completely, letting country after country on their borders fall into US hands in recent years. Once friendly countries turned into enemies.
China's rebranded 'socialism in one country' strategy isn't enough to resist US aggression. The US doen't need to do much to blockade Chinese shipping, and block all imports from entering the mainland. Going from "random" drone boats sent from US vallal states, to airstrikes and piracy conducted by US forces themselves, which they have been training for through the recent attacks on Russian and Venezuelan ships.
China can't retaliate against this adequately, due to their lack of bases or proxies of their own around Amerikkkan territory.

China's complete neglegt of this danger may be its downfall. For all their greatness, they cannot last against a neval blockade, land siege and hybrid warfare, the US has been preparing for.

This is why solidarity is so important. Supporting comrades in other countries isn't about kindness. It ensures you will not be attacked by brothers turned against you.
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Cope thread

>>2617351

<muh labor is when coal miner


fucking retard. just because america is a dictatorship of the bourgeois wherein the positions of power are captured by the capitalist class, doesn't mean literally every managerial position and task is 'PMC'. do you not think that communism requires specialists in organization and management? do you really think communism is when mcdonalds employee is president? what 'productive labor' did Lenin, or Stalin, or Trotsky perform beyond their administrative and managerial functions? were they secretly fucking farmers between leading revolutionary armies?

>>2617360
>do you not think that communism requires specialists in organization and management?
Of course it does. But these specialists should also have first hand knowledge of what they're organizing and managing, and a personal stake in how it's organized and managed.

>do you really think communism is when mcdonalds employee is president?

Yes.

>what 'productive labor' did Lenin, or Stalin, or Trotsky perform beyond their administrative and managerial functions? were they secretly fucking farmers between leading revolutionary armies?

Note how th Soviet Union ultimately failed to achieve the long-term goal of achieving a classless, stateless society, and is no longer in existence. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, there's something to be learned here?

>Sounds crazy, I know, but I think Xi-fans should at least consider the flaws of China's "Do nothing, win" strategy,
But they aren't doing nothing. China is pouring resources into infrastructure development, setting up to transition to the next stage of socialism, and ensuring the PLA is modern and ready.

>>2617404
>and ensuring the PLA is modern and ready.
For what?



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Maryland politics

Politics pertaining to maryland

For the discussion maryland and its future

Maryland residents prefered

Why is there no maryland meme flag?
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I used go live in the Baltimore area. Does that count?

What's with those half US, half confederate flags everywhere? It's been 150 years, pick a damn side already.
Also Old Bay sucks

Bump

>>2598864
Last time I was there my first experience was at a train station hearing this dude talking to some other dudes about shooting people like he was Soulja Boy. He was doing the moves.

>>2598864
Why is there no general for Baden-Württemberg?



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Britpol 's unconcerned with cornish republicanism, we cornu holio have been occupied by brits for 1000s of years, we WANT A REPUBLIC.
FUCK THE UK Kernow Bys Vyken
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>>2617131
The guy is this video is literally an open fascist by the way.
He's an American Jew who immigrated to the UK, he's an ultra Zionist, a white nationalist, and an fascist with some autistic obsession on "saving" the Welsh and Cornish people.

This is the Cornish leftist group btw who you should be following if you are interested in Cornish liberation https://sordya.net/


>>2617123
This holds as a general rule, but shouldn't really. The cluster of German speaking countries independent of one another, the failure of Pan-Arabism, and perfectly viable small-scale states like Singapore all speak to the possibility of having somewhat arbitrary states.
(Though Britain is probably best compared to Yugoslavia. Just because they all speak "Serbo-Croatian" doesn't mean they like each other!)


>>2617106
Cornwall is one of the poorest regions of the UK (and with that, one of the poorest in Northern Europe)
The old, rich people are holiday home owners giving the people who live in Cornwall all year the worst of both worlds: low incomes, high house prices and rent.

>>2617282
There are several smaller independent countries. Perhaps we should weigh the US's population against China and India and conclude that it, too, is tiny and irrelevant.



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>Israel has recognised Somaliland, a breakaway region of Somalia, as an "independent and sovereign state," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Friday, making Israel the first country to do so.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-recognises-somaliland-somalias-breakway-region-independent-state-2025-12-26/

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These are the christian nigerians trump is so desperately "protecting"

>>2617224
that is really sad, you can see how cruel his parents are
hopefully the kid will get the emotional support they need in the future

>>2617224
That's brutal. Not only do your parents diss you but now you'll probably get bullied at school for not having a BBC

Hope whichever faction is genociding the Christians is successful



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I've been on this site long enough to get a superficial understanding of Marxist politics, but I've officially passed the Dunning-Krueger peak, where I've realized how superficial that knowledge is. So in an attempt to deepen my understanding of the subject, I have a few questions.

People say that gradual reforms won't work, with the cited reason being that, so long as the bourgeois element is allowed to exist in any significant capacity, it will burrow its way into government and reassert control. But doesn't China disprove that? Their entire plan is to gradually reform their market economy into "full" socialism.

On that note, from what I understand, "capitalism has inherent contradictions that will lead to its downfall" is really just a fancy way of saying that the relationship between the bourgeois and proletariat is an antagonistic one, and eventually the proletariat will get fed up with it and assert control. But is this actually a given? I could easily see a scenario where technology allows the bourgeois to assert permanent control, using robots to replace the proletariat and surveillance and weapons to quell any opposition. I could also see the opposite happening, where capitalism keeps rewinding itself to earlier states indefinitely, creating a situation where life is "good enough" that people don't feel the need to rebel.

Dialectics in general confuse me. Every time I think I have a grasp on them, I'll have someone else loudly proclaim that I'm wrong. If I ask for correction, the explanation provided is so long-winded and convoluted that I end up with more questions than answers. Can someone please give me a basic, working definition of what dialectics are in the context of Marxism? They seem so fundamental to Marxist analysis, and without understanding them, I don't feel like I can actually properly understand any of what I'm looking at.

Finally, I frequently hear people say that we're going to be entering a China lead multipolar world order. That sounds like like a (logical) contradiction to me. Doesn't the term "multipolar" imply multiple leaders?

Note that I don't ask these questions with any ideology in mind. I find much of what I read here incredibly confusing, and my ignorance has been punished enough that I figured it's high-time I do something about it.

>inb4 read a book

I plan to do that as well. I just thought I'd come to you guys so I have a startinPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2616729
>per capita
Read my post again. CAPITALISTS (not billionaires/millionaires - the first is a relation to the MoP, the second is a description of how much cash money you have; one is a social relation, the other is not) as a POLITICAL CLASS. You are fucking poison to the movement, dude.

>>2616736
Cause it's capitalist. Wage labor.

>>2617050
>I ask every leftcom this and never get an answer, so try to keep up.
>There was a planned economy. Therefore, there was no unemployment. Therefore, there was no labor market. Labor power was not a commodity. Therefore, there was no generalized commodity production. If labor power is not a commodity, then the surplus appropriated (which acts as a reproduction fund, read the Gotha Critique) was not appropriated in a capitalist way. The social division of labor wasn't forced by arbitrary market dynamics; it was planned. So where is the capitalism? Where? Can you show me the capitalist class—as a political body—appropriating surplus via wage-work? You can't. That’s the issue: you are hallucinating critiques based on false narratives from bourgeois alphabet agencies.

>>2615896
>Robots could produce surplus
Value is socially necessary abstract human labor. Machines, whether automated or “self-reproducing” do not create new value. They only transfer the value already embodied in them. If production becomes fully automated, the value of commodities tends toward zero, because the socially necessary labor time tends toward zero.

>>2617234
I think we fundamentally agree but you think the logic of capitalism would break down under a full automated system and there would be no way for the capitalist to extract the surplus value.



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The more you read into the history of Stalin and Trotsky and their respective followers, the more you will realize that Stalin was right and Trotsky was at best an idealistic retard and at worst a literal fascist collaborator that literally wanted Nazi Germany to destroy the USSR.

Trotsky was basically an Osama Bin Laden type figure that railed against Stalin because Stalin didn't immediately abolish the state, abolish the family, pursue muh "permanent revolution" aka embroil the USSR into ill-fated wars and other idealist bullshit that had no basis in the actual material conditions of the time. How dare that Stalin works worth the material conditions and historical context and develop the state to advance proletarian interests – it's all "bureaucracy" and Trotsky is out of power so therefore Stalin must go and he must literally be assassinated (This Trotsky advocated for).

After all this it becomes clear the justification for Stalin's "purges" of these terrorist assholes trying to destroy the USSR. It's amazing that the USSR survived WW2 and constant subversion from these pseudo-fascist retards. It's a testament to Stalin's strength and competence that this is so.
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Koba was right

>>2617087
>man evolves his thinking and strategy in light of new experiences and consequences of his past strategy
<this is bad somehow hehe

>>2617094
Stalin was right(wing)


>>2617099
He was an elightened centrist



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What do we think of Anarcho-Synndicaliam, Council Communism, and Anarcho-Communism, basically ideologies in which the proletriat immediately seizes production without seizing the state apparatus.

Personally i really like Pannekoek and also syndicalism although I think both systems can become burecratic and possibly disconnected forming a new classes (such as how after the first revolunary generation lost power in the USSR the vanguard stopped working for the proletriat and formed new methods of exploitation).
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>>2575989
anarchism as a movement collapsed this decade. there's no substance to it anymore, anarchism as it exists (or recently existed) would never be able with its network of communes to go against the bourgeois state. people hopefully realize this before lapsing into literal identity politics like the OP

>>2575220
I've always been interested in the revolutionary process within Catalonia/Aragon/Spain during their civil war but I've never been able to find anything that focused on that topic alone. Where can i find this?

Can an actual Pannekoekist on this board give me a crash course on CouncilCom please?

>>2566699
>Anarcho-Synndicaliam
Proto fascism

>>>What do we think of

USSR: (max) 75 years
Anarchism: (max) 5 years.

lmao, etc.

Go kys anarchos



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got mad having to constantly hear from stirnites so i made this to cope. how the fuck does an ideology like this even continue to exist?

literally every time someone even says something pro-com, there's always a fucking stirnite in the corner of the room chuckling to themselves, waiting for their mom to call them home for chicken nuggies and appy juice
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Stay spooked lmao.

But for real, are there still stirnites around?

>>2562552
Fuck off to Siberia.

>>2611495
This is like Maoism but with multiple steps

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>>2563065
His grave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/162563267/max-stirner

And John Henry McKays book on him "Max Stirner, his Life and Work"

https://files.libcom.org/files/Mackay%20-%20Max%20Stirner%20-%20His%20Life%20and%20His%20Work.pdf

Combined with documents mentioning him and linking Max Stirner with Johann Caspar Schmidt

http://max-stirner-archiv-leipzig.de/max_stirner.html

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>>2616892
History repeats



 

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>>2615262
p much

>>2615266
Alright, I will do it then


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>>2614484
Is this from Made in Abyss?



 

🇨🇳🇺🇲🇪🇺 A thread for all-things multipolaroidistical 🇷🇺🇮🇳🇮🇷
Pioneer's edition
In spite of the seething of many supposedly 'leftist comrades', America's unipolar dominance is weakening every day and we move ever closer into a multipolar world. It is clear to any good faith communist that a multipolar world just means that: transitioning from American unipolarity to multipolarity, and that does not automatically mean the expansion and consolidation of socialism. The latter gains more opportunities in this new state of affairs, but nothing is given on a silver platter - communists still have to seize the day. If we make the mistake of thinking multipolarity is socialism, we might as well end up with a multiple poles of fascism and reaction. This is understood by communists, real ones, not agents of NATO clad in 'red aesthetics'. The latter strawman the 'multipolarity=communism' nonsense precisely to then dismantle it and thus ridicule and 'defeat' multipolaristas, doing the work of the NATO Moloch.
'''Multipolaristas, let this thread be a place where all developments concerning the advent of multipolarity is posted and compiled.

https://emmanueltodd.substack.com/p/diverging-populisms :: Diverging populisms, Emmanuel Todd

https://youtu.be/UMgkvvu_pnU :: West's Failure to Adjust to a Multipolar World, John Mearsheimer

https://youtu.be/US7oycLV5ZE :: Avec le PRCF, Rencontre Internationale, faire front anti impérialiste pour la paix et la liberté, Pôle de Renaissance Communiste en France
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>>2613669
because drugs is predicated on the abolition of capitalism, u should know this and blame pharma not countries trying to get out from under the boot of international patent cartels

If I was a multilibtard I'd have killed myself from the constant cucking

>>2614671
Business is business, whatchu gonn' do…

>>2614671
>when you loose your ally you have to be a salty spiteful looser and never touch the hand of the winner that replaced it

Source: The Wall Street Journal https://share.google/Sl0EjnIHAzTTZzexh



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