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>>2925665
>Both anti-Euro and anti-Atlanticist at the same time right?
Le Pen's RN was literally named "occident" (west) by the nazis who founded it, like the AfD they like europe and north america, they just want to make 4th reich fortress evropa with burger money against the jungle

>>2925289
während ich mit deepseek meine bisexuelle seite erforsche, leiste ich meinen objektiven beitrag zum aufbau des kommunismus.

das erkennt jeder, der materialistisch denkt.

wen nennst du hier also "beknackt"? 😎

>>2925667
Was bleibt dem Michel? Das ist doch die Frage. Man kann die tollsten Utopien und die ehrenwertesten Werte haben, aber in einem besetzten Staat wie unserem, bleibt nur die implizierte Wahl und die ermöglicht aktuell nur: Libertäre gegen den Krieg. Also wählt Michel Libertäre gegen den Krieg. Ich kann Michel hier absolut verstehen. Ihm ist es egal, wie er danach gefickt wird - Hauptsache, er muss nicht im Schützengraben sterben. Das ist einfach das Resultat von jahtelanger Zersetzung. Normalerweise hätte man schon Putschen müssen, als es um Taurus ging.

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Die Befreiung der Produktivkräfte und die Befreiung des Körpers sind kein Widerspruch.

Sie sind zwei Seiten desselben Prozesses.

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Hey everyone, I don't really understand what people mean when they say they are for 'prison abolition', I get the stuff about economic factors need to be tackled and there should be more services trying to stop recidivism, and keep people out of prison, but at the same time don't we still need prisons for the worst offenders? Or at least some kind of place to put people that are a danger to society? Do prison abolitionists have any kind of answer for this? What places should I research?
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>>2925067
>luckily he wasn't quite insane enough to actually fire at me but it scared the living shit out of me nonetheless,
Lucky he wasn't.
> i didn't respect the gun or respect him, i didn't think or feel anything at all, i just went into total fight or flight reflex mode and got the fuck out of there.
Lucky that worked out for you.

>>2925073
But yeah, sometimes I absolutely believe fight or flight is the better option. Never be me digging my own grave at gunpoint, but that is the good thing about a police force verses other armed people is you stand a better chance of not getting killed by folding to them.
>>2924971
>i mean my political views would probably fall into the category of anarchism but i'm not dumb enough to think that you can abolish the police. someone is going to be the police some way or another. if you go to places like juarez mexico and drive around the city, most places will be policed by the actual police, but there are certain areas where the police have been effectively abolished and in those zones the drug cartels are the police - they dress exactly like police with paramilitary uniforms and masks and tactical vests and carry assault rifles and handheld radios and they conduct patrols and traffic stops and arrests and raids and set up roadblocks and checkpoints, they pull you over and ask where you're going and what you're doing here and if you have any drugs or weapons in your car, etc. there are always police, it's just the way of the world.

>>2925073

well the point of the story is, as much as this guy believed that his gun gave him power and made him some kind of authority figure and as much as his actions affected me, nobody had any real authority in that situation, he wasn't really in control of himself or what i did, i wasn't really in control of myself or what he did, no one was in control, it was just chaos. and that's really the truth of the world, we don't control the world and when we try to we just create chaos, there is no authority. authority is an illusion that so-called authority figures try to reify through coercion and violence and then they deliberately misinterpret the involuntary visceral response of their so-called subordinates as a ratification of their so-called authority. like bill cosby out on a date they manufacture the consent and then they pretend like they didn't and tell themselves that the consent was genuine and they're just a straight up player.

Side topic. I just gotta say. "Deterrence" theory is fucking stupid. The idea that people will commit fewer crimes if there is more prisons, more cops, more sentencing, more judges, more death penalty, more torture, more arrests, etc is fuckin stupid. If anything the police state just widens the definition of crime so much that mere existence approaches criminality.

>>2925624
Deterrence theory isn't about more prisons or harsher punishment; it's about stronger enforcement of the existing law. Not sure why you think it's BS. People are less likely to commit forbidden acts if they know they'll certainly be caught. For example, murder rate dropped because murder is much harder to get away with nowadays.



 

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>>2924135
sour grapes

>>2924139
What's that even supposed to mean? If you can't say anything even coherent you don't have to say anything.

your reminder to NEVER simp for latin americans

>>2925599
los anglos ni se imaginan cuan cuckeado es el latino promedio, gente-rebaño completamente colonizada mentalmente

>>2925599
Ay yay ay ay yoooooo
Voy a votar
Por Donal Tromp
>Por que
Idk… quien sabe
>What do you mean "quien sabe?" You must know the reason, you must tell me!
I don't know why I'm doing it. I only know that I must kill you! *bang*



 

There are large protests in my country surrounding the affordability of housing, elections draw near and this got me thinking on who should I vote.

>PSOE: center-left dinousaurs, their attitude towards any problem is to hide and pretend it doesn't exist, that is both their biggest strength and weakness.


>Sumar: lib leftists, not radical by any means but they're more of the "go fast and break stuff type", on one hand they defend things that benefit me such as welfare programs for the disabled (which I am considered part of), on the other hand they defend social causes that go against my interests, such as euthanasia.


I'm using what shrinks call "profit-and-loss thinking" (because shrinks love to patholigise everything). I do not care about any progressive causes, or causes of any kind, I perceive anything that is not my material self-interest to be a "spook" as you like to say, I have been greatly abused by "oppresed" individuals and left-wing ideologues for me to give a shit about either, the opposite of love is indifference (not hatred) and the best revenge is to live well.

I'm in the following situation:
>minimum wage
>cisgender male
>disabled (sperg)
>assets in the 10000s of euros.

>inb4 don't vote

KYS

Aren't voix and pp supposed to fusion and win

>>2925498
>I have been greatly abused by "oppresed" individuals
So not the collective?

>>2925498
what's wrong with euthanasia

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>>2925498
and none of them will make rodalies run on time because the airport demands growth



 

Why are rightoids so obsessed with muh objective morality?

It was a major talking point of the 2000s culture wars between the Religious Right vs. liberals, namely the belief that the right-wing upheld the notion that there is an objective truth and an objective morality that stems from it, while liberals (and genuine leftists for that matter) were portrayed as staunch believers in moral relativism which they acquired through "worshipping" science and history in lieu of religion.

So how does this belief in objective moral truth fit in with the greater right-wing agenda? How does the exploiter class benefit from proles believing in objective morality?
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Interesting how zoomers’ fascination with East of Eden seems highly correlated to their demand for objective morality.

>>2925104
Compared to his millennials loved The Grapes of Wrath, which is about the fuckery of capitalism.

>>2925104
Where are you getting east of eden’s popularity numbers from?

>>2925505
It’s fairly obvious if you look at social media trends.

>>2921058
Zoomers would love Strauss’ moralism.

How much longer before Natural Right and History becomes the next “hot book” on TikTok?



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Is Israel the most reactionary country that has ever existed? People will point out nazi Germany but Israel is much more xenophobic and racist. The only difference is that it's a "democracy" and nazi Germany a one party state.
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Reactionary is a misrepresentation of what they're about and doesn't really capture the full insanity.

>>2924552
>t. reactionary


Yes.

I would say Japan pre WW2 has been the worst state in history. Extremely violent not only towards foreigners but also its own people.



 

“Mass immigration is insane and will lead to the destruction of any country that allows it. It only takes a few percent of the world to move to a country, where it is no longer that country. A country is its people, not its geography.”
https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1908860526400057534

"The legacy media never mentions white genocide in South Africa, because it doesn’t fit their narrative that whites can be victims"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1904065163407368212

Even Musk's AI is based.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1916042294018666585

"The ADL is a hate group"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1973289543848829225

He supports remigration.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1997700657546191314

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>>2913311
wtf is the "oriental mode of production"

I'm pretty sure the chinese didn't invent factories.

>>2912864
trueee

>>2913320
For marx, the asiatic mode of production is about the state monopoly on land ownership, and the apparent lack of division between town and country that was in asiatic society, where the ones doing agriculture and early industry where living in the same places, unlike feudal serfs (also control over irrigation)
It is a concept that has been mostly rejected by any contemporary marxists, including those in the soviet union, with some rebranding it the "tributary" mode of production, where the governing body exerce total control over vital sectors and lord over peasants without tying them to the land

Hmm…
>Is an Afrikaner that resents the ANC for abolishing apartheid
>Bankrolls every racist and far-right party in Europe, including the AfD which harbors actual Neo-Nazis
>Pays millions for his mockingbird influencer network that includes both philosemitic white neocons and zionist Nazis like Captive_Dreamer
>Boosts and pushes racist slop
>Is currently trying to incite a race war in the UK by artificially tweaking his algorithm to almost exclusively show ChudSlop to his British userbase, especially of the pedophobic variety
>Has spent days pushing Uwe Boll’s movie version of the Turner Diaries
>Constantly spouts far-right talking points
>Literally siege heil’ed at Munich

Yep, Elon Musk is a Nazi, a’ight.

>>2923293



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What are the problems with leftist rhetoric and the purity policing and cannibalism within the community? Why can't people disagree on certain topics and work towards the same goal?

Share your thoughts.

because "leftism" is an online subculture that doesn't involve actually doing anything in the real world. which is now impossible anyway, because the world is dead and the escathon is total.
so enjoy shit throwing at your fellow leftists on this god forsaken board, it's a passtime as good as any really.

this is how non-authoritarian political movements are supposed to function internally. it's only when they are out in the world lobbying and networking and fundraising and demonstrating and protesting and striking and rioting and blowing shit up they are organized and working together. when they are back at headquarters they are debating and bickering and arguing and complaining and shouting and nitpicking and criticizing and attacking each other over absolutely everything. if they aren't doing that internally, then it's not a healthy political movement; it's just an authoritarian cult. actual leftist politics, i.e. democracy, isn't everyone being mindless robotic clones marching in lockstep and agreeing about absolutely everything, it's supposed to be human beings with diverse viewpoints and personalities discussing and figuring things out in a messy and chaotic and tedious process of arbitration and eventually arriving at some kind of consensus, which isn't the same as agreement; it just means the people who disagree with the decision accept that they've been outvoted and swallow their pride and act like adults and sit on that shit. if you can't get down with that and you want a more efficient and ego-validating movement to be a part of, go join maga. real politics is for adults only, it's not for babies.



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Lapid says young Israelis backed killing 'everyone' in Gaza
Speaking in the interview, Lapid described the exchange as painful and deeply troubling. "I had a painful meeting with a group of very young people, and I heard from them all those statements calling for killing everyone and claiming that there are no innocents," he said. When asked "Even babies?", he said the group replied: "Babies too, because eventually they will grow up and become terrorists."
https://en.yenisafak.com/world/lapid-young-israelis-backed-killing-everyone-in-gaza-3724030
https://archive.ph/y1Yis

Pakistan sent four planeloads of weapons to Saudi-backed government in Yemen: Report
The Pakistani weapons shipments to the port city of Aden, reported by Reuters on Friday, suggest that Islamabad is increasing its involvement in the war. Pakistan delivered air defence systems, light artillery, drones and anti-drone systems to Aden, Reuters reported, citing a Pakistani government official. In addition, Pakistani military advisers are also on the ground with their Saudi counterparts supporting Yemeni troops.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/pakistan-sent-four-planeloads-weapons-saudi-backed-government-yemen-report

US sends third aircraft carrier to Middle East amid stalemate in Iran war
The deployment, which includes a specialist amphibious attack group, underscores the rapidly evolving dynamic of Trump’s war against Iran as midterm elections in the US loom large. Trump has threatened that a post-midterm election escalation remains a viable option – despite his initial promises that the war would last a matter of weeks.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/oct/02/us-third-aircraft-carrier-middle-east-iran

Kandahar governor denies hosting militant leaders’ talks on attacks in Pakistan
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‘This Scheme Is a Poison Pill’: Trump Blasted Over Federal School Voucher Program
The US Department of the Treasury this week released proposed regulations for the first federal “school choice” program, as proponents call it, drawing a fresh wave of condemnation from critics who have expressed concerns since President Donald Trump signed last year’s Republican budget package.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-school-voucher-program

Vance's fraud crackdown may raise costs for US health insurers, enrollees
The 2010 Affordable Care Act created income-based government-subsidized health plans for individuals, with 19 million people ‌now enrolled. Millions have dropped out this year as extra COVID-19 pandemic subsidies expired. The Trump administration now says fraud contributed to the growth. Vice President JD Vance said last week the government had removed 760,000 enrollees it believed did not exist or who had been fraudulently signed up by brokers and were unaware of their insurance coverage. Another 400,000 are under review.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/vances-fraud-crackdown-may-raise-costs-us-health-insurers-enrollees-2026-10-02/

Democrats put $3.4M behind Susan Collins allegations
The big buy from Senate Majority PAC suggests Democrats think they can turn a complicated investigation into a simple message attacking Collins' willingness to put Maine first. It also suggests they don't think the allegations in the ProPublica story — which Collins vigorously disputes — have broken through with Maine voters. "Susan Collins took illegal campaign money and steered millions in government contracts to the donor," a female narrator says in the ad.
https://www.axios.com/2026/10/02/democrats-susan-collins-maine-senate-propublica
https://archive.ph/gdsP3

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>>2925123
enough with the anti-semetism.

Against the Politics of Communal Fear By Bhaskar Sunkara
New York City’s new municipal strategy to combat antisemitism comes just days after the war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu used his platform at the United Nations to call Zohran Mamdani “the antisemitic mayor of New York” and claim that since his election “many Jews no longer feel safe” in the city. The initiative seeks to expand education, support victims of hate crimes, and fund security at Jewish institutions and other houses of worship throughout the five boroughs. Laudable as any attempt to reduce animus is, the Left should view the plan skeptically. Antisemitism, it goes without saying, is an evil. And it’s an evil that socialists have particular reason to be concerned with. For centuries, the idea that powerful Jewish interests were at the heart of social injustice was widespread. Socialists of August Bebel’s generation called antisemitism “the socialism of fools” for how it steered resentment of capitalist instability and speculation into ethnic hatred. Today Mamdani is right to condemn it. And it is understandable that he wants to give that condemnation a practical policy expression. This makes sense on the level of both principle and tactics for a political leader who has been the subject of a deliberate and baseless attempt to equate his support for Palestinian freedom with antisemitism. Any socialist mayor should oppose prejudice, enforce equal rights, and respond to specific acts of discrimination or violence. The question is whether the administration’s response is proportionate to the problem, and whether its rhetoric helps people assess their circumstances accurately or encourages them to understand their lives through a sense of communal siege.
https://jacobin.com/2026/10/antisemitism-communal-identity-mamdani-universalism

Why Russia remains stubbornly insignificant to the Middle East
Support for Palestinian statehood has been Moscow's position since the Soviet Union backed partition in 1947, and it has remained so since the Russian Federation's establishment in December 1991. Rather than providing the Palestinians with substantial support against their Israeli colonisers, the Russian Federation has, since 1991, at best offered nothing more than empty diplomatic rhetoric in suppPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Tybna



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>start a left wing populist org
>a bajillion factions form out of the fact that your economic theory is vague as shit
>get a really loud but small left wing faction
>be DSA
>pic unrelated
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My dad is a anarcholiberal that started getting into DSA politics.
He says the shit I say about "social fascists" is being said in the DSA discords and reddit about social democrats.
Because the terminally online DSA posters see themselves as Democratic Socialists.
I don't think there is a meaningful difference between the two as they both see reform as a valid strategy to rehabilitate capitalism but it is funny to see it turn into a sort of umbrella organization for all kinds of irrelevant socialism.

Get the chinese money, build the org

>>2890480
Puerto Rico

>>2892964
>He will do "Easternization" similar to westernization that Sun Yat Sen did with his influence from Western thinkers like Henry George
The American political system is so ossifed that it's going to fail hard. They're literally out of ideas and nothing epitomizes this better than them trying to force-meme Kopmala 2028.
>>2893169
>But i doubt they would be inspired by Chinese socialist system.
That's because the Chinese system was built for China. I think it'll be an inspiration for socialist movements all over the world like the USSR was but attempting to rotely copy the system will fail.
>>2924452
Today's "democratic socialists" are literally the original social democracy that believe that socialism can be attained through electoralism and reform as espoused by the likes of Bernstein and others. Today's "social democrats" have been essentially market liberals ever since Bad Godesberg.

>>2924996
the model only applicable to the chinese context:
<have institutions



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