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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Sitting Bull Edition


>Hear me people: We have now to deal with another race - small and feeble when our fathers first met them, but now great and overbearing. Strangely enough they have a mind to till the soil and the love of possession is a disease with them. These people have made many rules that the rich may break but the poor may not. They take their tithes from the poor and weak to support the rich and those who rule.

Sitting Bull

💀 ICE & Prison Resources
(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)
https://www.iceinmyarea.org/ – ICE tracker using public info and user submissions
https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers – list of deaths at ICE concentration camps
https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/ – visualization of prison population in US
https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html – database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites
https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources – list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc
https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents – ICE Agent List (incomplete)
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>>2737312
>I could honestly picture a Texas cop drawing a weapon on noise demonstrators that seem "too rowdy close to government property" leading to people in the group "fearing for their lives".
Yeah, especially in that town. I have my spies around the area and can tell you the cops in that specific town are stupid thugs. They're also really fat and run speed traps. It was probably the first time anarchists did anything there since 1897 and now there's a dozen people in a surprise black bloc at midnight, like what the fuck. People in this sort of loose anarchist scene in DFW had been fucked up by Fort Worth cops before, and some of them were armed too and the cops just grabbed them, honestly the whole thing was stupid:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-police-release-video-arrests-antifa-attacks-peaceful-drag-show-protesters

But those are city cops. Some random Alvarado cop shows up he'll be like, oh my God there are ninjas attacking the town.

>>2737392
>that is exactly the problem. you should always have military aims. war and politics are the same thing. lenin was a keen admirer of clausewitz and made reading vom kriege a requirement for all politburo members. there is a reason for that. war is politics, and politics is war.
You LARP. That's not what Clausewitz said. He said war is the continuation of politics by other means. Politics sets the objectives of war.

>>2737331
>the army is the highest form of and the highest purpose of the party.
The army is a tool led by a revolutionary working-class party for political purposes.

>>2737180
this is new york


>>2737941
Based. Eternal misery to left-imperialist slavers.

>>2738262
I’m waiting, ugly macaque



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whats up with people saying that the bolsheviks killed 60m christcucks? so far i have not seen a single bit of proof, it just seems to me like straight up lying. are rightoids this retarded that they would believe a lie with no proof?
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>>2738190
like 5-7m i think

>>2738181
who cares. it's just anticommunist lies from reactionary bourgeois abrahamists who will use their spooks to rule the world until they destroy it because the proles won't stop drinking long enough to rise up. go back to sleep and enjoy the treats until the sun boils the oceans o algo

why do people these days make vertical cell phone videos with unreadable sans-serif font plastered over their dumb faces instead of either:

>publishing a blog


or

>talking into the camera


it's literally the worst of both worlds to just stare at a camera while text is over your face.

>>2738217
i know that my question is how anybody believes it, i have seen like 10 tiktoks about it, it seems to be tied to the judeo bolshevik myth

>nazis pushing nazi propaganda
>”why are people pushing nazi propaganda”



 

On January 5th-6th, 2021 members of the Proud Boys, Oafqueefers, BLM, Ferguson protesters, Black Hebrew Israelites, National Anarchists, 764/Comfags (Riley June Williams), "pink berets", National Anarchists, NSC-131, politicians, members of law enforcement and convicted felons and child molesters raided the White House to overturn a democratic election (who Trump later pardoned). This was the lamest turn of events since Charlottesville from the right. And it was so fucking obvious. Among their biggest PR stunts being the Pikeville, Kentucky rally in 2017, the Charlottesville, Virginia Unite the Right rally in 2017, the Boston Free Speech rally that came soon after it on the same week as Charlottesville where about a dozen non-racist demonstrators gave a speech under a gazebo while surrounded by 50,000 counterprotesters with like one guy wearing a "end white genocide" t-shirt, it was fake as fuck. Then Kyle Chapman's abortive "Say No To Marxism" rally in Berkeley, California that same month that got violently disrupted by Black Bloc protesters who weren't having none of that shit attacked a small group of supporters who arrived, which drew widesoread condemnation in the lying msm, then the Shelbyville White Lives Matter rally that was somehow an even bigger PR optics disaster than Charlottesville (at least UTR protesters had the nice tiki torch march the night before August 11th). Then in 2018 there was a Richard Spencer event at MSU that was such a trainwreck it fractured what was left of the alt-right at the time (along with that audio that came out of Richard Spencer, leaked by Milo Yiannopoulos in 2019 that oretty much ended what was left of his relevance and career). And now come nearly 3 years later and you have this shit. Can the right ever get worse than they already are? This is so cringe how do people even find this appealing?



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The government doesn't even try to stage a false flag for justification anymore. They just start a war and look at you like this.
But seriously, what made them not even bother to pull another 9/11 for this? The Iran was is insanely unpopular as it stands. Any attack on US soil now would be too suspicious
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>>2737057
>No next guy? What are you proposing?
Next GAL.

>>2737029
>Being poor isn't cowardice.
true. but joining an all-volunteer military for free college so you can become petty bourgeoisie while dodging combat and bombing civilians from far away is.

>>2737059
At this point i'm not so sure what a gal or a even a guy is…? At least have a husband is what my wife would say.

>>2737059
First woman president will be MTG

>>2737130
>for free college so you can become petty bourgeoisie
Sheltered rich kids think the only reason you go to college is to make a tech startup because their parents gave them a job, then they become socialists and keep that mindset.



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Previous thread: >>2177902

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.
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Was Karl Marx an Anarcho-Capitalist?

>>2737983
Pretty much the literal opposite of that. Socialism requires a powerful state.

As a gernan, I really, really hate my people for what they have done to the jews. I hate them so much, that I even hate myself for being a part of the german tibe. Should I just kill myself?


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Could an Iranian regime change be used as an exercise in dialectic thinking? I know that "thesis antithesis synthesis" is often oversimplified to the level of a meme but is there something to it?
  • The removal of an anti-American force in the world and the expansion of Ameri-zionist imperialism hurts poor people
vs
  • Many people in Iran have long suffered under the theocratic regime and have awaited it's downfall however it may arrive

Synthesis: ???
For the sake of learning I would prefer an answer that doesn't boil down to "one of the arguments is wrong therefore the statement is invalid".
Thank you!



 

How come when it comes to colonialism all leftists suddenly become believers of trickle-down economics?
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>>2736760
If I wanted whitey dead I would support Zion Don's war.

>>2736915
What race are the Zionists?


>>2736760
Watched too much BBC cuck porn, right?

I don't know what you're even attempting to imply but colonialism requires considerable state action which is almost the opposite of trickle-down economics.



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Thread №2

Переможный, переговорный, пятнадцатотравневый.

Продолжаем трястись и ждать мобку.
Лолируем с красных фашистов, пыняславов и чучхеисов - вместе.
Переезжаем в тюмень, так как там нефтяная мекка и все жрут черную икру поварешками.
Левый поворот путина будет… надо только подождать… еще лет двадцать.
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>>2737603
>>2737606
>>2737556
the purges and executions were alright

>>2737606
Sutton was retarded.
<Um lol Wall St funded the revolution so they could have a captive market because a capitalist Russia would out-compete the West
>Russia becomes capitalist and doesn't manage to build a single market-leading company in any field and is reduced to a raw materials provider
>The only country America is scared of today that is a competitor to it is China which is governed by a Communist Party
Truly one of the most retarded "historians" of all time. His theory completely disproved by reality and retards still suck his dick.

>>2737678
t. Шломо Шекельберг

>>2737606
*based Hans Frank memoirs enjoyer

>>2737829
>No arguments just accusing everyone of being a jew
Unlike you retards I actually read Sutton's book as well as actual history on the revolution hence why I know how retarded his claims are. Sutton makes no mention of the fact that the Bolsheviks renounced the vast Tsarist-era national debts that the Bolsheviks inherited, because it would conflict with his thesis of Bolshevisk being agents for bankers. Sutton makes no mention of the embargo on the early USSR, which generated an early famine, since the only conditions under which the Western nations would bother to trade hard currency with the Soviets was in exchange for their grain. Sutton claims Germany wanted Lenin to take power in Russia to destabilize Russia (true!) and leaves out how Lenin's successors would attempt to also bring Germany into revolution, because that would conflict with his notion of Lenin and Lenin's friends being puppets of the Germans. On and on it goes. A retarded book for a retarded audience but people have d.egenerated so much in the 21st century that right wing retards like yourself don't even read anymore so you can't even comprehend how stupid it is.



 

"Communist" party
>Doesn't propose anything to fix the underlying issue of a decade long economic crisis
>Called people protesting after the murder of a 15 year old by a police officer "hood wearers," a greek pejorative for anarchists and/or activists
>When the New Democracy was on the verge of complete fascist collapse, the national television channels were changed and started transmitting from a private signal, susceptible to outside interference. When Syriza compared the channel to soviet-era programming and iconography, mentioning bolek and lolek, the official publication of the KKE, 902, immediately rebutted to defend the cartoon, throwing hands about how kids today watch the capitalist propaganda of…spongebob squarepants.
>Has consistently been perpetuating the myth that homosexuality and transgender identity are a bourgeois degeneracy, shifting back and forth between members between protecting their rights, or saying that "babies need a mom and dad!"
Soviet nostalgists have no place in modern politics and are actively detrimental to leftist ideals. They support the status quo and exist purely because they survived the greek civil war. They only get any sort of vote due to their history, they barely count as an opposition party.
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>>2735752
>The proletariat is nothing, doesn’t exist, and when it does exist, is the most mercenary and opportunistic class in history, communism is impossible, the last 150 years has proven it repeatedly

You are wrong. The class interests of the proletariat and the capitalist class are the opposite of each other, no matter how many illusions you tell yourself. The other working classes must act on what they have in common with the organized proletariat as a class to seize power and abolish private property, social classes, and the anarchy of production in the dictatorship of the proletariat. Individualists who deny the supremacy of the proletariat will be crushed and punished with revolutionary terror. You sound like an angry liberal thinking your words have some value in trying to co-opt the masses with your sentimentality, but you will be punished as a counter-revolutionary anyway.

The vanguard will guide the masses with propaganda of the objective class interests of the proletariat, which are opposed to those of the bourgeoisie, and unite the workers of the world. Those who deny the dictatorship of the proletariat will be punished in any way possible if they become obstacles along the way.

>Nobody has a duty to do shit. You either gain the trust of the proles by fighting alongside their strikes and other struggles against the capitalists or they will throw you in the trash.


Wrong. Spreading communist propaganda has nothing to do with submitting to spontaneity; spontaneity must submit to scientific socialism to organize the workers and radicalize them to bring instability to the bourgeois state. Slogans such as guaranteed public employment, wage equalization in unions with their democratization and the removal of all laws that prevent the radicalization of these unions, labor rights for all workers without exception including immigrants with unionization of all workers, the right to any legal action and judicial process guaranteed to workers at the expense of the state and capitalists, punishment always given to capitalists for violations with compensation to all workers and unions involved, and fines for capitalists so that no worker can be exploited more intensely in isolation, prohibition of bosses employing immigrant workers with lower wages than nativesPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2736199
Idealism. Communism is the real movement of the working class, not your private circlejerk. Spontaneity has nothing to do with rejecting your commandism.

>>2736253
So your ideal from of "communism" is one that is poractively focused on IDpol, in particular focused on how it hates black people, women, lgbt, and focuses on white nationalist grievance politics.
you are LITERALLY a nazi. you are an anti-communist

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Comrades, once again the two-party system, the pawns of domestic and foreign capital, are pushing the people into the abyss with their anti-popular policies that serve the monopolies. The KKE, and only the KKE, has the consistent, revolutionary, and scientifically-documented proposal that will break the chains of imperialist servitude and pave the way for the only solution that serves the needs of the working class: the rupture with the EU and NATO, the People's Power, the People's Economy, socialist reconstruction. The people must realize this before it is too late.

stares blankly

Anyway, comrade poster, lower the hammer and sickle. The archon of the neighborhood association called again. Something about the flagpole blocking his balcony view. We must be diplomatic. The revolution can wait; the condominium regulations cannot.

>>2736308
You are wrong to idealize the working class and treat the communist movement as a vaguely idealized essence of the working class.

Let's take the texts of Marx and Engels talking about what communism is then:

<We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.


<Karl Marx. The German Ideology, 1845, Part I: Feuerbach. Opposition of the Materialist and Idealist Outlook, A. Idealism and Materialism


https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch01a.htm

<1. What is Communism?

<Communism is the doctrine of the conditions of the liberation of the proletariat.

<Frederick Engels, 1847, The Principles of Communism

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<BIG OIL Edition


Latest News
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<KC-135 crew died because they got rid of parachutes in 2008
>Hormuz is closed, but Iran is allowing ships connected with China to pass
<Feds are looking for IRGC through online tips
>Oil is rising

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>>2737012
Yet they blamed east germany for stopping brain drain.

>>2737645
Heh, yeah Carrey is just getting old like the rest of us, the plastic just made him look worse.

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Agreed. But he always had a plasticky very expressive face. Anyway…

>THREAD CLOSED

<JOIN US IN NEW THREAD
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>>2737472
The vast majority of influential zionists are americans IN america who aren't even jewish though

>>2736870
where's yankees vs tankies



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SOUTH AFRICAN GENERAL
Comrades, Malema-enjoyers, Slovo-worshippers, Mandela-libs, Zumatards, Cyril-Dengists, welcome.
Leftypollas speak a lot of Israeli apartheid, but leftytpollas neva speak about da great Nation which successfully defeated apartheid.
AMANDLA
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>>2668014
NUMSA can claim to be Marxist Leninist, it does not matter as their actions do not reflect Marxism Leninism at all.

>>2705574
Nobody cares about your faggy little whining.
You are deeply unserious.
Fuck off to your containment thread, /USApol/, or better yet get a job.

Hows malema? Is he still getting shit for that gun charge?

>>2705689
Serious analysis is not faggy whining, vibes-moron.

Boors heeding Trump's call to save them from 'white genocide' return home lol



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