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Left parties keep losing because they care about "muh privilege" or pendering to transexuals, instead if they engage with the problem of the majority of working class, problems of like healthcare and job security, then many leftist parties would take power easly, instead we get people focusing their time and power on problems of 0.005% of the population, I'm not saying to not care for transexual, but this is pointless, leftist should care about the working class majority problems to get power and then care for minorities, I forget that there was a book talking about how the left got destroyed by identitaries politics. Will I get banned here for not pendering to transexuals?(IDpol thread)
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>>2751799
can confirm. i cared a lot about the working class, but then someone said "trans" and i got so heckin icked out i became a chudjak fascist. so true. so true.

yawn

>>2770796
>>2770821
Lefties are doing the thing again where they pretend to not understand what someone is talking about as a debate tactic instead of dealing with the issue.

You can make this same argument for everything on the left

>Stop talking about the USSR, Mao and Stalin, you're alienating the workers!
>Stop pandering to Palestinian terrorists and radical anti-semites!
>Forget violent revolution, that's not what workers want to hear about!

Funny how these never get play on /leftypol/, but endless idpol concern trolling does

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>>2770984
Most of the Proles are willing to think about violent revolution, they just see no one they would follow or a plan ofa ction that seems to actually get them what they want. Also, yes, sitting around jerking off your histrionic revenge fantasies doesn't appeal to anyone but fellow maladjusted freaks. Neither does LARPing as being something you're not and can never be accepted in anyway because you weren't born into it.
Do the work. Read the theory. Figure out how to apply it scientifically and stop approaching politics the same way you did when you were 14 coping with map-painter games.

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>>2751799
A lot of people are purely selfish and completely willing to throw minorities under the bus but they don't care about oppressing minorities in particular.


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Thread dedicated to discussing the consequences of a Burger-Occupied-Planet. This is not /usapol/ This is about what the USA does outside of the USA.

For the record, this thread is neither for demonizing the American worker, nor for centering them as the most oppressed, nor for spurring them to "do something." This is ALSO not a thread about discussing the debauchery of the US ruling class inside their mansions.

This is for discussing the international non-US-based consequences of US military hegemony, US offshore bases, USAID scams, CIA coups, IMF loan sharking and structural adjustment programs, dollar reserve currency status, petrollar scheming, infrastructure bombing campaigns, sanction starvation siege warfare, embargoes, forced privatization, forced austerity, forced union busting, US-funded anticommunist death squads, US-funded psy-ops, US "playing both sides" in conflicts, US fucking with its former allies, etc.

These constraints aside, the discussion can be both fluid and focused, emotional and scientific.

Please do not confuse this with a "Total Burger Death" or "Total Burger Defense" thread.
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>>2770739
not the anon, it was a joke about how you get more replies for posting bait.

>>2770743
>thinking the US president is the deciding factor

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>>2770645
burger pyre*

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bop is real
https://elpais.com/mexico/2023-04-15/un-documento-desclasificado-revela-que-el-expresidente-mexicano-jose-lopez-portillo-tuvo-vinculos-con-la-cia.html

>>2770636
The Euro is going to become the world's next reserve currency because there is no way in a billion years that China will ever relax capital controls and allow for de-industrialization. Capital always prefers cuck nations that rape their workers and allow for rampant financial speculation and the EU treaties have basically already guaranteed that. If you invested in the Chinese stock market 30 years ago and pulled out the money today, you would have gained a net profit of negative 300%. So with America falling apart, Capital will make the right choice in fleeing to Europe. The fact that Ukraine can single-handedly stalemate Russia using second hand equipment and drones is also a boost of confidence that Europe will not be conquered by anyone for at least the next 50 years.


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>Self proclaimed radical leftist party
>Big shot in the greek lefty scene ca 2000s
>Seeming Right ward shift around 2015
>Is a complete cuck for the eu creditors
>Seemingly disliked by majority of greek lefties now
>Enters into a coalition with right wing ANEL
>Losses 2019 election
>Support if fading
>Former Leader leaving and plan to start new party
Greek anons, what's the deal with this?

he is a drifter. that is all.

I like that they're called pizza. Makes me hungry.

>>2770553
oh yeah? well communism=no food so checkmate libtard


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third world proletarians, the most exploited on earth, regularly ask why 1st world proletarians don't do more. why don't they rebel? why don't they have revolutions? why have the first world proletariat not lifted a finger against their governments? the conclusion is treatlerism. they are willing and gleeful collaborators who benefit from plunder and so have become a "bourgeois proletariat" (engels said this about english workers in the late 19th century) fine. but it is a futile effort to ask someone who supposedly benefits from imperialism to fight it. they are your oppressor. do not beg your oppressor to stop oppressing you. that's naive cuckoldry at best. the next question then becomes, why do the third world proletariat not destroy the first world? the answer is they are too weak. they lack sovereignty. they don't have nukes. the imperial core sanctions, coups, embargoes, invades, bombs them every time they try to rise up. the only one brave enough to rise up seem to be the hyper religious ones who have no interest in communism, and they tend to get destroyed because they don't have a materialist understanding and just vibe based on the idea that god will give them the strength to win against impossible odds. not good… ok so what we have is a pretty bleak situation. the 1st world proletariat won't revolt because they benefit, and the 3rd world proletariat can't revolt because they're weak. What is left? bernsteinism? thinking capitalism will destroy itself if you wait long enough? embracing climate collapse and post apocalyptic scavenger theses? well that's anticommunist and opportunist. anprim ideology?

we have to get to the root here. i'm sick of the circular arguments where third worlders/worldists beg treatlers to stop being treatlers , and treatlers antagonize third worlders and tell them to win against impossible odds without any help from within the belly of the beast?

certain posters on here like felix says you need a crisis in the imperial core that accelerates economic collapse to create conditions for proletarian revolution. but nobody wants to go around blowing up power stations on the off chance it makes a lobotomized population of reactionaries who can't even point to iran or ukraine on a map suddenly pick up guns and attack the imperial core superpower.

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>>2770797
>what did marx call communists? the most advanced and resolute section of the working-class parties of every country, that section which pushes forward all others… so is that you or do you just post as one on the internet?


i never claimed to be communist nor even working class. I just pointed out that downwardly mobile petty bourgeoisie are ripe for fascist agitation. the sensitivity and anger in your writing is palpable, but you may as well be fighting a person you imagined. you imagined i was

>claiming to be communist
>claiming to be working class
>claiming to be part of the most advanced and resolute section of the working-class
>claiming that proletarianized petty bourgeoisie inevitably become fascist (italic emphasis)

I claimed none of those things and yet your reply takes the tone as if i claimed all 4 of those things. why?

>>2770815
>i never claimed to be communist nor even working class.
oh ok then i dont really care what you think
>why?
this is a communist website

>>2770824
>oh ok then i dont really care what you think
you didn't care what I thought to begin with. you just made up a bunch of things I didn't say and confronted those things. you began by assuming i was working class. i asked why you made that assumption. now you assume i am not because i simply asked a question. in both situations you begin by assuming without evidence. you demonstrated a lack of critical thinking skills. maybe you are tired, but in this instance, when confronted with a question you shut down the conversation. that is not very communist, communists think critically and consider evidence. and yes, communists regularly care about what non working class people say because they do the work of deconstructing and debunking bourgeois propaganda. you are just being anti-intellectual and emotional right now. you have the opportunity to stop being that way but you might not because of pride. seriously read our exchange from the beginning and ask yourself what basis you had to make any of those 4 assumptions instead of just replying to what I did say.

>>2770824
this conversation
me:
>petty bourgeois people can become the basis of a fascist movement
you:
<i am going to assume you are saying this is inevitable, then call you a fake communist and express my hatred towards you
me:
>where are you getting these assumptions
you:
<i am going to assume even more things now and use that as a reason to end the conversation

strange behavior.

>>2770863
>i asked why you made that assumption.
i didnt
>>2770797
>is that you


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the fundamental flaw of marxism is that it is built around the idea of ONE contradiction being the motor of capitalism's development, namely what is manifest in the value form. this is merely the contradiction between proletariat and capitalist. but of course there is the contradiction between the capitalist and the capitalist, as well as the contradiction between the form of bourgeois institutions and their actual content insofar as they are in a material relationship with the capitalist class

what we have seen is that after the falling rate of profit has progressed a certain point, capitalists realized that the first contradiction was no longer tenable to work with and so they moved to the other two. this has resulted in a qualitatively distinct transformation of the development of capital. in the contradiction of the value form, still working within the logic of value, the only salient variable is productivity. however, in capitalist vs capitalist and capitalist vs government power relations they no longer need to concern themselves with such things. it does not matter that the rate of profit is zero or even negative if you just fucking kill your competition and have the govt print infinite money. the solution to capital's first contradiction really is just have more war and sabotage everyone else whilst introducing financialization bullshit. look at netflix. they actively undercut blockbuster whilst losing money just to push their opponent into bankruptcy. that is just what is normal now, cannibalism

this is why ofc there will be no revolution because the contradictions at play have nothing to do with prole cattle. they are just pawns in the larger game. in the context of disputing wages, there is a clear connection between one's class position and what is the natural progression with respect to how to address things. in such contexts, class consciousness is something very simple to promote. this is not the case when its having a war with the national bourgeois of another country, or heck in the future two megacorporations just fucking killing each other mafia-style. that is what will happen btw. the iran war will crash the economy and corporations will capitalize on the chaos to balkanize western states into feudal shitholes. then eventually you will have these "freedom cities" hurling drones at each other and any prole cattle that thinks of objecting to this will be preemptively executed why palantir technology

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the fundamental flaw of Marxism is that naming your world view and identity after another man is homo-idolatry. On another note, ACAB also includes therapists.

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>>2760716
>i am pointing out that the core dynamics of how the system operates isnt simply on the axis of wage labour
cool, you're in agreement with marxism then as was demonstrated above. late stage monopoly capitalism, or imperialism, is in a different stage of development than capitalism of the mid to late 19th century. no one disagrees with you there either; that's why MLs exist.
what are you actually saying? can you demonstrate how these are flaws with marxism and not just problems you invented in ur head

i thought the fundamental flaw of marxism was no food no iphone economics 101 transformation problem mud pies teleology big gubbermint

>>2760694
> it does not matter that the rate of profit is zero or even negative if you just fucking kill your competition and have the govt print infinite money. the solution to capital's first contradiction really is just have more war and sabotage everyone else whilst introducing financialization bullshit.

>this is not the case when its having a war with the national bourgeois of another country, or heck in the future two megacorporations just fucking killing each other mafia-style. that is what will happen btw. the iran war will crash the economy and corporations will capitalize on the chaos to balkanize western states into feudal shitholes. then eventually you will have these "freedom cities" hurling drones at each other and any prole cattle that thinks of objecting to this will be preemptively executed why palantir technology

Marxist theory already acknowledged that the destruction of the productive forces and endless wars was the bourgeoisie's logical reaction to the falling rate of profit and other endemic crises of capital.

vid related is crucial

>>2770531
best chapter of a great book


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US and Ecuador fabricating drug trafficking charges against Colombia’s president: audio
In the recording, an Ecuadorean official discusses a “special task force backed by the US Embassy” in Quito that seeks to revoke outstanding extradition requests for drug lords from the border region and convince them to testify against Petro. "So my job is to go to Interpol to have those alerts removed… because the gringos want to catch them—they want to catch one of these guys and make him sing against Petro. You get what I mean? We’re not really going to get involved in that, but the gringos are."
https://colombiareports.com/us-and-ecuador-fabricating-drug-trafficking-charges-against-colombias-president-audio/

Venezuela's government, opposition may cooperate to safeguard US assets
Lawyers for Rodriguez's government and the opposition asked Manhattan-based U.S. Magistrate ​Judge Sarah Netburn on Monday to pause for 45 days a ⁠case in which creditors are seeking to seize funds linked to state oil ​company Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA.UL) while they determined who would represent Venezuela's interests.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/venezuelas-government-opposition-may-cooperate-safeguard-us-assets-2026-04-06/

Australia: Labor government conducts police raids against anti-genocide protesters in Melbourne
Early on the morning of March 27, Victoria Police Public Order Response Team (PORT) officers in full combat gear conducted eight raids upon homes around Melbourne to detain eight women who had taken part in a March 6 protest outside the Victorian Trades Hall building. Because the police went to a wrong address, one of the women was raided and arrested on April 1. Just a day before the eight raids, on March 26, heavily-armed NSW police commandos stormed the home of a woman who had joined the large demonstration at Sydney Town Hall on February 9 against the visit by Israeli President Isaac Herzog.
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New Jersey cannot regulate Kalshi’s prediction market, federal appeals court rules
A three-judge panel of the Philadelphia-based third US circuit court of appeals ruled 2-1 in finding that the US Commodity Futures Trading Commission has exclusive jurisdiction over the sports-related event contracts that Kalshi allows people to trade on its platform.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/apr/06/new-jersey-kalshi-ruling-cftc

Trump endorses Republican Steven Hilton for California governor, reordering wide-open race
The endorsement — coming about a month before mail ballots go to voters in advance of the June 2 primary — will help Hilton coalesce conservative support in a race with no clear leader. However, Trump is widely unpopular in heavily Democratic California outside his conservative base and Trump’s backing would become a liability if Hilton faces a Democrat in the November election.
https://apnews.com/article/california-governor-donald-trump-endorsement-steve-hilton-0c3b0f4752466e3fd12463cbb49c079d

Upstate NY judge removed from bench amid charges he advised illegal eviction, deleted emails, more
Investigators found Lilley gave legal advice to landlords outside of court about how to remove tenants from a mobile home, according to the commission’s findings. He told the property owners to serve a notice to vacate and later suggested they change the locks after the tenants were gone for about two weeks. But under New York law, tenants who have lived somewhere for at least 30 days can’t be locked out without going through the court process, the commission said.
https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2026/04/upstate-ny-judge-removed-from-bench-amid-charges-he-advised-illegal-eviction-deleted-emails-more.html

West Virginia governor vetoes help for neglected and foster kids after approving tax cuts
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Donald Trump Has Given Iran a New Deadline, Again
In times of war, leaders tend to look towards the future’s history books as they compose their letters and speeches. Regret and stoicism; conviction and sorrow; grit and greatness: these are the themes that presidents and princes strive to capture with pithy eloquence as they prepare their populations for sacrifice. So too with Donald Trump on Easter Sunday. “Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell,” he picked from the drafts, “JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah.” The inspirational coffee mugs produce themselves. Dubbing this coming Tuesday “Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one”, it’s far from the first time that Trump has threatened war crimes against Iran’s civilian infrastructure (and he’s already done more than a few too). On 21 March, Tehran was given 48 hours to allow ships through the Strait of Hormuz. By 23 March, it was five days. On the 26th, it became ten. On the 30th, it was ‘immediately’, which was rolled back to 48 hours this Saturday, then 48 hours again on Sunday. Trump may have promised to bomb Iran ‘back to the stone ages’ last week, but when it comes to statecraft, it appears Washington is already there. Because, as any child will tell you, the parental leap from “I really mean it” to “I really, really mean it this time” isn’t upwards, but downwards when it comes to authority.
https://novaramedia.com/2026/04/06/donald-trump-has-given-iran-a-new-deadline-again/

Why the doctors’ strike matters to all trade unionists
THE six-day strike by resident doctors in England, due to start after the Easter bank holiday weekend, raises issues that concern the whole labour movement. Doctors’ disputes are sometimes viewed at arm’s length by other trade unionists. The British Medical Association (BMA) remains outside the TUC. Doctors, unlike most NHS workers, are not part of Agenda for Change bargaining structures, which can reduce solidarity across the healthcare workforce, and their wages are relatively higher. Nor does every strike slogan — the threats to move to New Zealand for higher pay that featured on some junior doctors’ picket line placards last year, for instance — encourage sympathy from workers on lower pay with no such options. But theirPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

tybna


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>Previous Bake
>>2767164

HAPPY 50th ANNIVERSARY BAKA LEFTYCHUDS!!! THE MEMEFEST IS ON THE TAB OF YOUR FAVORITE CAPTAIN TONITE!!!

Latest Trvkes:
>The war is going on for a heckin while now
<Operation Eagle Claw 2.0 ended in a meh (multiple aircraft lost, who knows how many dead)
>Ayadronald Trumeini has converted to Islam and dropped an F-bomb (confirmed by SNOPES, FOX and 4CHAN)
<Big happening possible on Tuesday
>Zios getting bloody nose in Lebanon, more Kornet and Drone strikes confirmed
<Oh yeah, 2nd F-15 pilot recovered (Praise be to Allah -Donald Trump)
>Oil is at an all time high, nobody knows what to do except double down on green energy (possibly???)
<Zio cops arrest Israeli anti-war patriots
>Zelensky met with Al-Jewlani
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SINBAAAAASAD
bake

Make the fuckin' bake, you crazy bastards

with the whole rescue fiasco and how amerimutts took no casualties it's now pretty much a given that trump will feel emboldened enough to invade both kharg island and tried to get the nuclear material back
>inb4 ackshually there were 100 dead amerimutts and they're just hiding it or that was the nuclear salvage operation and it failed here's this xeet from the iranian government as proof

NEW
>>2770772
>>2770772
>>2770772
>>2770772

>>2768932
You're welcome!
Sowwy for late reply


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COMRADES OF LEFTYPOL, ERIK HOUDINI NEEDS YOUR SOLIDARITY
Houdini has been arrested.
https://gofund.me/826555a5f

He is in deep Florida country. Anons in Florida, please do what you can for him. Those who can make online payments, please help him.

Pasting the message from his comrades:
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
TL;DR Our friend Erik is in jail for allegedly trolling a right wing influencer, Kaitlin Bennet, and we’re putting together a bail fund for him. If we don't get him out in 10 days or locate a foster the local animal shelter may put down his dog.

—

Hey everyone. We do not come here lightly and it is with a heavy heart that we come to you and ask for monetary assistance. Not for ourselves but for a dear friend of ours who was arrested Tuesday February 24th 2026 by the police.

Sometime in November of 2025, not long after the Kirk assassination, our friend allegedly got into a conflict on Instagram with a right wing influencer, Kaitlin Bennet, when she visited their city. In this conflict he allegedly referenced Kirk's assassination and that was enough for her to take these as threats on her life and call the police on him and an investigation was conducted where they allegedly found evidence of plans to harass Bennet next time she visits their City.
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15 years in the can, not one fucking peep

Houdini deleted his "solidarity is a buzzword" thread after the people who were dumb enough to give him money rightly got mad at him LOL

>>2770674
dont worry leftypol always remembers.
i remember those late-night incel posts.

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>>2770674
You just made me think of that Revolutionary Blackout guy who is now an ACP orbiter (or something) complaining about No Kings because nobody gave money to his food bank charity scam a few years ago.

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>>2770680
>i remember those late-night incel posts.


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Israel will be gone before the end of the decade. How can this be used to advance the Marxist cause?

I imagine a lot of people will stop believing in God after the Promised Land fails. That's good, right?
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>>2770325
Because otherwise a majority Palestinian Israel will be in control of them

>>2770352
The Samson option is still a risk in this scenario.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

>>2770374
They are stupid enough to nuke themselves yes, but that would the require new settlers and settlements, and nobody will move to a nuked city.

>>2770376
The point of the Samson option is to act as a deterrent. But Israel might be more inclined to actually do mutually assured destruction. Of course, this is assuming spite overrides self preservation.

>>2752124
I don't know about end of the decade but I could see within the next 20 years.
#5 is absolutely true though. Israelis have no loyalty to the actual land, because they don't have real roots and have ties to other countries. If they fear for their lives the ones who can leave will leave.


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Going out on a real limb here and being genuine.
I've got a really long history I'm not gonna Dear Diary about, but I've been around a bit.
Even though I was part of various groups that are Alt-Right I have always had various Left-of-Center beliefs. I felt like I was the only one that understood the
>socialist
aspects of various camps for a while.
Just generally after 18-something years, I'm tired of this crap. These are some of the most useless, in-fighting, bought-out, dogshit people I have ever dealt with
>and I've been to prison so I have a wide berth of experience with shit people
and I want off the fucking ride.
I can't say I don't believe in some
>"Right-of-Center"
things and I feel like they're hard-coded and baked into me. Some aspects I don't fully buy into, but I don't feel like walking away from because I don't necessarily feel like they are not incompatible to me with various aspects of Leftism.
>Southern Nationalism probably being the biggest example
>A few religious beliefs
I actually have read lots of Leftist literature like Marx and Engels and a few others. Maybe they aren't really
>Leftist
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>>2764326
If you're too lazy to read, then I'll leave you with a quote from Lenin about what imperialist capitalism is:

<But very brief definitions, although convenient, for they sum up the main points, are nevertheless inadequate, since we have to deduce from them some especially important features of the phenomenon that has to be defined. And so, without forgetting the conditional and relative value of all definitions in general, which can never embrace all the concatenations of a phenomenon in its full development, we must give a definition of imperialism that will include the following five of its basic features:

<(1) the concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life; (2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation, on the basis of this “finance capital,” of a financial oligarchy; (3) the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities acquires exceptional importance; (4) the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among themselves and (5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completed. Imperialism is capitalism at that stage of development at which the dominance of monopolies and finance capital is established; in which the export of capital has acquired pronounced importance; in which the division of the world among the international trusts has begun, in which the division of all territories of the globe among the biggest capitalist powers has been completed.

<Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, 1916, VII. Imperialism as a Special Stage of capitalism.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ch07.htm

Proletarian internationalism is a duty, no matter what you complain about, and all bourgeois states will be overthrown for the supremacy of the proletariat, no matter your opinion or your outrage.

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>>2765362
I am actually starting to see some of your points about socialist culture et al. A lot of what passes for culture is actually foisted on us by Pedophilic Capitalists as PsyOps. It's inorganic and forced brain-washing, it's not actual real folk culture. Sort've what this person above >>2720829
if that makes sense. I am starting to see the light on some of these issues through reading and thought. But a lot of what I see is that especially for American Whites there's no pleasing Lefties. They just have this intrinsic Hate-Boner for us that is impossible to get around.
It reminds me of the very, very early days of the Alt-Right where everyone who wasn't significantly German enough in attitude couldn't be on their team. The Alt-Right eventually beat these people in the head and told them to shut the fuck up, because nursing a historionic revenge-fantasy was getting in the way of actually putting ideology into practice and accomplishing a goal.
The Left really doesn't seem to have that figured out and it is honestly one Hell of a fucking hill to get over for me.
Frankly I don't think no matter what I do I'm ever going to be decent enough for anyone in any of these circles and I'm not exactly trying to jump into direct association with anything, anyway.
Honestly I don't think I all-the-way agree with everything in Leftism anymore than I did with everything in the Right-wing. I think many people in the Left, just certain real-life issues fly right the fuck over their heads.
These people probably think Zhukov should've been never allowed to be in authority within the Red Army because one time at some point in his life he fought for the White Russians and the Tsars before that. Utter brain-dead wing-cuck thinking that's never going to create anything.

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>>2770061
if you want to know about the abolition of the volk, i would suggest alain de benoist's "beyond human rights" (2011) which explores the legal creation of the abstract "individual". The universal reign of human rights comes in 1789 with the revolutionary "Declaration…" which is concurrent with nationalism, an absolutist construct. Volkdom and nationalism are thus also at odds, as I explain here:
>>2761062
"National Anarchism" as a reactionary movement also sees that the concept of individuality is harmful to the order of communities, and thus, a community's collective rights should have primacy (in modern jurisprudence, there is no such thing as "collective" rights of peoples, but only of individuals). So in each case, we see how law is the instrument of political action. Marx also sees that the individual is a construction of social, not natural relations; namely, the division of labour. Marx further attributes individuality to the modern wage worker, since their economic relations are based upon voluntary contraction. So then, individualism progresses as capitalism progresses, which by 1848, Marx had claimed, had already destroyed traditional custom and the institution of the family (with original reference to Thomas Carlyle's "cash nexus"). Thus, it is sufficient to claim that money as a universal abstraction, is the source of destabilisation - Aristotle calls barter "natural" and money "unnatural". The Bible calls money the "mark of the beast", and the love of money "the root of all evil".

>>2770136
Thanks for the book reccommendation. What's that flag you've got there?
I am something of a voluntaryist probably still. I'm no against collectives, but they have to be built I believe on something tangible and not forced from the top-down.
But either way, I like your takes. Thanks!

>>2770191
its the national anarchist flag:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National-anarchism
alain de benoist is also known as one of the pioneers of the "european new right" starting in the 70s, and he is the basic teacher of alexander dugin, as dugin writes in the introduction to the "fourth political theory" (2009). benoist is also known for defending a traditional and occidental form of direct democracy against "representative" government or monarchy. what is "liberal" to him is therefore confused between the democratic, since liberalism presupposes representation, and thus oligarchic guardianship over the popular democracy. theories of "true" democracy are always contentious, of course (we must also remember that universal suffrage is a 20th century concept and never existed before this, since not all citizens were enfranchised as part of the "demos").


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