/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

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somebody tell the mods on matrix or wherever they hang out

>>2936337
if this site gets wiped, don't say i didn't warn you guys

>>2935492
>the masses, society and the hivemind are tyranical too
>community is tyranny by the majority
>>2935836
>You figured out that politics and society has internal contradictions.
>The issue with utopians is that they think they can abolish them.
Very based. I am glad leftychuds see the light too about social internal contradictions that stem from mentality problems. Racism and xenophobia are about mentality problems. Even under Communism, there would still be people who think against communism. This is true even in North Korea. You can bet 100 shekels that there is some leftychud in a village in Rason who is dreaming of becoming a slumlord so he can live off of labor of others. And that's just one type of demographic. The other one is the control freaks endemic to leftist movements who are excessively neurotic and just want to plan everything away because they have low latent inhibition. I am also not immune to this but I try to put the brakes on it by doing productive activities.

>>2935494
I am adding this to my collection.
>Entreprolecariat
>Totalitariat
<You can help leftypol by expanding this list

>>2935836
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>>2935691
Yes, really. Of course, many modern women have elaborate rape fantasies, but I mean seriously, why would they want to live by the law of the jungle? Very few get to be in the king's harem.

>>2936275
As a professional dengist, I too wonder why american proles fantasize about being billionaires.

>>2935500
It is every citizen's final duty to go into the tanks and become one with all the people.

>>2934851
No one's saying China's bad, they're saying that this doesn't have much to do with socialism if you don't actually care about workers' self-determination and your primary concern are development projects from a body that doesn't have to worry about multiparty elections. You say it in your post
>the thing that matters most for third world societies is authoritarian developmentalism, regardless of ideology

>>2934851
>>2934880
Welcome back Adolf Hitler!

Idk, but
communism: at first, you get paid low wage, but you know you build something common or your property.. In USSR the lecturers with students built by themselves, the campus buildings, etc.
capitalism: low wages all the time, but also you just make profit for someone, Who will agree to that?

>>2911988
I hate that pragmatism is associated with cynicism. Paradoxically, I'd say the "revisionists" and pragmatists are actually the real true believers in socialism. What have the Maoists, Trotskyites, "Anti-Revisionists", LeftComs and other ideologues done for anybody? All I've seen from them is an endless parade of grifters. It's amazing how leftoids will denounce the USSR and China as Not Real Socialism that deserves to be overthrown yet see utterly reactionary movements like the Free Syrian Army and Hong Kong rioters as being the Real Revolutionaries. If all True Socialism has to offer is struggle sessions and hollow slogans, then "socialism" is a spent force.
>>2934992
Fascism is when you do things in the real world. Real Socialism is when you shitpost on the Internet and simp for CIA regime change operations.
>>2934851
>You freaks would rather the third world live in absolute misery and filth than have us be "revisionists" or whatever shit you call us.
How do you keep the virtuous poor virtuous? You keep them poor.

>>2936194
>I hate that pragmatism is associated with cynicism.
Based.
>Paradoxically, I'd say the "revisionists" and pragmatists are actually the real true believers in socialism.
ULTRA BASED.
>What have the Maoists, Trotskyites, "Anti-Revisionists", LeftComs and other ideologues done for anybody?
Nothing except shill for color revolutions against anti-western countries.
>It's amazing how leftoids will denounce the USSR and China as Not Real Socialism that deserves to be overthrown yet see utterly reactionary movements like the Free Syrian Army and Hong Kong rioters as being the Real Revolutionaries.
I know. Bordigafags are a cancer.
>If all True Socialism has to offer is struggle sessions and hollow slogans, then "socialism" is a spent force.
Leftcomism is truly an infantile disorder.
>Fascism is when you do things in the real world. Real Socialism is when you shitpost on the Internet and simp for CIA regime change operations.
You read my mind leftychud.
>How do you keep the virtuous poor virtuous? You keep them poor.
This is how leftcoms and bordigafags actually think.
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>>2934121 (me)
Sorry if my writing was a bit shit. I'm on my phone at work, so I kind of half-assed it.

a Marxist revolution has never taken place the first world
a Marxist revolution has succeeded in the periphery

>>2936158
>a Marxist revolution has never taken place
Could've stopped there.

>>2933117
I said the same thing and was called a social democrat.

>>2936281
and they were right

Activist Mahmoud Khalil asks Supreme Court to let US judges quickly reverse immigration detentions
Khalil, a lawful permanent U.S. resident, was detained by immigration authorities last year because of his participation in pro-Palestinian demonstrations at Columbia University in the spring of 2024. The U.S. government argued at the time that Khalil’s presence in the U.S. was harmful to the country’s foreign policy interests.
https://apnews.com/article/mahmoud-khalil-supreme-court-palestinian-protests-columbia-8ac4b21f75a38a0165c92ee1a14f093e

US judge dismisses Sam Altman's sister's sexual abuse lawsuit
Laura Politi, a lawyer for ​Annie Altman, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. ​Santos Perez, a lawyer who previously represented Annie Altman in the case but withdrew this month, said in a statement, "I am no longer authorized to comment on ​this case but I continue to believe in Annie." Lawyers for Sam ​Altman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-judge-dismisses-sam-altmans-sisters-sexual-abuse-lawsuit-2026-10-20/

Ohio Democrat’s family criticizes Vivek Ramaswamy for bringing up estranged mother in gubernatorial ad
In a Tuesday statement, Acton’s brother, Philip Stearns, said his sister is estranged from her mother, who had married a man that sexually abused Acton when she was 12 years old. He added that Arthur remained in the marriage even after her husband was arrested and her children were taken away from her.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/oct/20/ohio-democrat-vivek-ramaswamy-ad

Mayor Bass announces temporary relief for Los Angeles residents affected by skyrocketing utility bills
Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass released a statement Tuesday announcing plans for some major changes to bring temporary relief for Los Angeles Department of Water and Power customers affected by skyrocketPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

How The Proud Boys Lost Their Name
West Palm Beach, FL – On Sept. 26, the film “American Martyrs” premiered at the Kravis Center’s Cohen Pavilion in West Palm Beach, Florida. The subject of the film, presented by the far-right media outlet Gateway Pundit, was the Proud Boys – specifically the “seditious five,” whom a federal jury found guilty of seditious conspiracy to stop the presidential transfer of power for their role in the Jan. 6, 2021 storming of the U.S. Capitol. …. Despite the obvious connections to the Proud Boys organization, the premiere lacked any of the recognizable branding belonging to what it depicted as a persecuted “drinking fraternity.” Even on Tarrio’s person, the golden cock and abbreviated name have given way to the branding for his streaming outfit, “War Boys,” which has gained a whopping 700 followers on Rumble since the channel was created in April last year. And on Tarrio’s merch website – where the Afro-Cuban now in his 40s markets just about any idea as apparel, including a t-shirt reading “Enrique Tarrio Eats Cream Pies” with an AI illustration of Tarrio licking an over-sized cream pie – reveals a distinct absence of Proud Boys related merchandise. Tarrio’s ability to capitalize on Proud Boys merchandising, which once characterized his merch store, hit a setback last year when a D.C. Superior Court judge awarded the brand to a historically-Black church following a years-long legal battle set in the wake of the 2020 Presidential election. At the beginning of 2025, the Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal (MAME) church was the only place one could purchase official Proud Boys merchandise, re-branded to signify Black pride, with proceeds going toward the church’s community justice fund.
https://unicornriot.ninja/2026/how-the-proud-boys-lost-their-name/

Puerto Rican Communities Bear the Brunt of the Water Crisis
As a child, visits to my grandmother’s home in the rural area between the municipalities of Humacao and Yabucoa, in eastern Puerto Rico, often began with the same question: “Is there running water?” Decades later, we have stopped asking—not because the problem has been solved, but because we already know the answer. She either has no running water at all or lives with such low water pressure that access remains uncertain. Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Maupin plagiarized certain parts of this talk in his book.

Funny how the Iraq war is still mythologized by libtards when it's just capitalism 101 can be digested by as little as reading the festo

>>2935445
It was a neocon conspiracy. Look up the Wolfowitz Doctrine. Pure Satanism!

Okay, prove to me that “neocons” are still a threat in 2026 and that I should fear them.

>>2936008
why would anyone want to have a kid with downs.

>>2936009
Because Jesus wants children to suffer.

>>2936008
What will Dugin say about this?

Good. I’m not taking care of a Downie if I don’t have to.

Being acceptive and accommodating to disabled people doesn't mean we shouldn't end their conditions. What absolute liberal nonsense

>>2933874
I guess he really is inevitable. I accept my fate. See you at the voting booth, anon.

>>2934183
>I guess he really is inevitable.
Qrd on Lasalle?
I am new to communism so I only know him from Marx's rants and the Watchman State.

>>2931748
Possibly it is due to perceptions of scarcity. Generally, rightists believe that there are not enough resources to go around so we should decide who to throw under the bus to make sure the in-group gets their due, while leftists generally believe there are plenty of resources to go around but that they are unfairly distributed. In your case, playing with this ad-hoc, we might imagine that an impression of scarcity is created by the prospect of the business failing, but once you do your work and know the business is safe, the perception of scarcity recedes.

>>2935938
> that an impression of scarcity is created by the prospect of the business failing, but once you do your work and know the business is safe, the perception of scarcity recedes.
>leftists generally believe there are plenty of resources to go around but that they are unfairly distributed
Thank you for the intelligent post.
Have a (you) deer leftychud

>>2934951
>Is capitalist exchange fraudulent? Yes or no?
No.
>You are concerned with the forms in which capitalism appears, but everybody in society (i.e. except Marxists) knows that what is purported to be sold is "labour". It is in every economic textbook (i.e. except Marxists') that the "commodity" which is sold to employers is "labour".
Nobody cares about what "every economic textbook" says, retard. The discussion at hand are your distortions of Marx.
>Precisely. But capitalist exchange is evidently fraudulent.
No, it isn't, dumbfuck. The wage contract is fulfilled; the worker is paid the value of labor-power, which is what the worker agrees to when he or she is hired. Fraud would be refusing to pay or deception.
>Yes – the capitalist purchases "labour" but undercuts it.
No, the capitalist purchases labor-power and pays it its full value. The "undercut" is the difference between value created and value paid for labor-power.
>But you're literally positing an internal contradiction.
Retard. Equivalent exchange and appropriation without equivalent coexist. That’s Marx's point.
>You don't know what theft is. That's your problem.
Appropriation of unpaid labor through a property relation, NOT through fraud in the exchange of labor-power.
>So then, property rights are metaphysical? They exist as a claim outside of its immanent social forms? You can "steal" from someone even if the state or society does not recognise it as theft?
>Marxists only believe in metaphysical property, clearly.
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>>2935012
You're hopeless at the moment.
I pray that one day you come to reason.
Best of luck to you and I hope you have a great life. 🙏

>>2935027
>I give up, but I'm gonna whine about how you're le hopeless to save face
Surrender accepted, but I could do without your coping.

>>>/leftypol/2934951
>completely gives up at the sight of a captcha
holy shit

>>2934908
>There is no cherrypick.
How many cherries do you have? Repeatedly referring to the same passage does not count as several quotations.
>In chapter 7 (your quote), Marx says the worker suffers "by no means an injury"
As was pointed out in >>2934309 already, the original word is Unrecht = injustice.
>because labor-power is bought at its value, there is no fraud that occurs at the point of sale. But the theft is not located in the wage contract; it arises in production
This amounts to poetry (derogatory).

There are two types of theft, a person steals A) by sneaky means or B) by violent means. Which one is it? A kid who fails at being sneaky fails at stealing from me. The capitalist process is intransparent. Some of the time I am working covers the cost of my wage and I work for some time beyond that point, but no bell rings to tell me when the switch happens. Suppose I hacked into the accounting database of my boss. Then I would know. Now, what do I do with that knowledge? Me become aware of the sneaky surplus-extraction switch point (picture a big ❗ popping up over my head) does not undo shit here. So yeah, there is something sneaky about the whole state of affairs, but it is not A). So is it B) then? Does my boss hold a gun to my head? No.

Is this concept to narrow and brittle? How about this, then: We might posit that capitalists are violent as a group and they steal together as a group. Does that work. Well, Dühring said something like that. He spoke of the capitalist as the "man with the rapier in hand" and Engels mocked him mercilessly for that. The police and army are the armed people protecting the state, but these armed people are not identical with the capitalists nor are they simply a sub-group of the capitalists, and besides, all these people together and all the capitalists would have no chance against the organized massive majority of the rest of society who C O N S E N T to capitalist society, as frustrating as that fact of life is.

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>>2929475
>Stalin was willing to sign a peace deal with Germany as late as 1943
where'd you get that from even? random rumours from glup shitto generals?

wvobblyfaggot and moffinzankarin shitalian gulag

NOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THE GULAGS JUST THINK ABOUT ALL THE DOWNVOTES YOU'LL GET ON REDDIT THAT'S REAL BAD

USA has a bigger prison population than the soviet gulags ever had, is amerikkka the real gulag archipelago? What even goes on there? We need a brave refugee to write us a book about it.