/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2921542
You’re doing x because you’re doing x

>>2921521
>bordiga said hitler was an authentic revolutioanry
He didn't tho

i already know this and have kind of always known it, if not consciously then subconsciously. but what george carlin got wrong is that it's not a big club, it's a very small and very exclusive club that gets smaller and more exclusive every day. and it's not the only club either; in addition to the elite club of people at the top who have everything, there is a second diametrically-opposite club of people at the bottom who have almost nothing, and that club is big and inclusive and gets bigger and more inclusive with each passing day. and what i'm getting at is not some cliche idealistic pipe dream about a future revolution where the poor masses overthrow the wealthy elite, it's more like a reframing of the narrative, re-evaluating our highly-indoctrinated perceptions of who and what we really are, understanding that the power and wealth and prestige of the elite is not real, it is an elaborate facade, a smoke-and-mirrors parlor trick that requires tremendous and continuous effort and resources to maintain. this idea that the elite are somehow outside of everything, outside of reality, outside of the laws of nature, is a fantasy which ultimately no amount of money or power can ever permanently reify. and likewise the innate weakness and helplessness and bondage of the common masses is also an elaborate fiction, the common man is not weak or stupid or servile, he is simply an occasional victim of temporary circumstance and in the grand scheme of things he is remarkably resilient to every manner of suffering and hardship and calamity. the meek will not someday inherit the earth and they don't need to, because they are the earth, they are reality, always have been and always will be.

the elite are the ones who live in a glass house and it is only a matter of time before something they failed to account for causes the foundation to crack and the entire structure to fall and crumble to dust and leave them suddenly denuded of all the protections they have grown so accustomed to, whereupon the remorseless uncompromising forces of nature will rub them out of existence without missing a beat. meanwhile, the common folk who are one with the earth, who have spent their entire lives bending and flexing and adapting to the forces of nature out of primal necessity rather than trying to resist them and control them by brute force out of hubristic extravagance, will adapt and survive and make the best of it as they have always done through all mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2920225
>Be second liberal capitalist republic
>still have slave economy and landed gentry
>Be second marxist leninist republic
>still have wage labor and capitalist class
BFF 4L

>>2921840
i have class soyciety fatigue

>>2920435
>Which is why Katyn was rejected in the final judgement.
There was NO rejection of Katyn anywhere in Nuremberg. Buchenwald and destruction of Warsaw are not in the final judgement, but are proven to be German acts - same as Katyn.

You cannot claim that Nuremberg had doubts about Katyn without invoking that Buchenwald and Warsaw destruction weren't Nazi crimes - which is Nazi crime denialism.

You have to drop this line of argument permanently, because Nuremberg did, in fact, persecute Goring, Hess and others for Katyn. But specifically Goring was the defendant on Katyn, and Nuremberg didn't abscond him of guilt during the Katyn hearing, as it was not stricken out of indictment. This is also proven by the fact that Nuremberg did drop stuff out of indictment, like the aforementioned case of secret Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, which was DISMISSED by Nuremberg court outright as having no factual evidence behind it even existing

>>2920711
Oh, and also, Romanov not a real person btw, but rather a collection of anticommunist writers from katynfiles doesn't go over Nuremberg trials' rules and proceedings specifically because if he were to read them out loud his whole position would fucking collapse. Hence, instead of open and direct going over rules and proceedings, he instead tries to recreate them off records of certain cases - a certified conspiracy theorist behaviour. In our case, though, he is more like those sleazy climate change denialist scientists who attack late edits on papers as a proof of paper being rushed and untrustworthy

Katynfiles takes you people for idiots. It's not factual, it's propaganda

>>2920701
You remain mistaken. In the "Critique of the Gotha Programme", Marx is already including the lower phase of communism when he writes about the state.

<Now the program does not deal with this nor with the future state of communist society.

<Karl Marx, 1875, Critique of the Gotha Programme, Chapter IV

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch04.htm

>>2920836
>Marx is already including the lower phase of communism when he writes about the state.
That's not what the excerpt says, you copy-pasting retard. He's referring to the organized collective and community of a potential communist society, not to a state in the traditional, class-based sense.

>>2921643
You remain mistaken. Marx is criticizing Lassalle's concept of the "free state," which tends toward class conciliation without resorting to anarchist fantasies.

is this the argument clinic?

>>2910193
lurkfag

>>2910374
til I'm a dork

i'm a lifelong debate addict; i just can't stop no matter what i do. i've simply accepted it as who i am, and made peace with the fact that i will be forever intolerable, after a certain point. as for the very few people in my life who continue to seek my company, they have either grown callous to my incessant exposition and questioning, or they encounter the version of me that keeps his mouth shut for as long as possible, which isn't very long, hence company of this latter sort frequently shuffles in and out.

like most addicts, my practice no longer brings me joy but simply serves to stave off a certain type of pain. although being addicted to dialectical intercourse can certainly be more productive and conducive to personal growth than other addictions, i sincerely have no idea if i am better off for it. i still feel helpless to affect my actions in any meaningful way, and all i can do is simply be more lucid and observant when i make the same mistakes as anybody else.

>>2921696
literally me

He's a cucked succcdem but I have to admit he's an extremely smart and charismatic politician, the Brazilian left is fucked when he dies.

>>2921784
the entire latin american right wing is dead as soon as trump dies so it kinda even outs

>>2919867
>The issue within the imperial core states is that the capitalists can intensify exploitation abroad to produce the overhead to pay for such accommodations at home. Thus, it's necessary for such labor struggles to have an internationalist character alongside the workplace struggle and not be fought as a "free trade union" struggle for "practical" benefits. An "accommodation" in the US should be an accommodation everywhere. The boss is happy to let you have a special desk, or chair, or break time, or a therapist, or whatever. See how they react when you demand that for not only yourself and your coworkers, but also at the sweatshops which do most of the work producing the value.
This is a real problem, yeah. It's inevitable that a material accommodation for a disabled worker will require additional investment by a capitalist, and the entire point of a third world sweatshop is that there's only the smallest possible investment in each worker. Sweatshops shouldn't exist, period, so the struggle to abolish them is the only hope for disabled workers.

>I think communists have ended up being pushed into seeing disability justice as some kind of frivolous idpol

it was like that from the beginning. ableism and things like eugenics were very standard universal things in western society during the era of karl marx and throughout the early 20th century as well, treating disabled people as human beings is a relatively recent phenomenon. until the modern era, the so-called cripples and invalids and feeble-minded were either a) hopeless tragedies to feel sorry for and never really acknowledge or talk about, b) entertainment to laugh at and gawk at in a freak show, or c) monstrous vermin to be removed from society by any means necessary for the good of the race. disabled people never had any place in marxist ideology, marx himself used ableist language to describe how capitalism turns the noble worker into a "crippled monstrosity" and marginalized the sick and elderly and disabled as the "surplus population" etc. of course the marxist fanboys will say, "well marx was just a product of his era that's how everyone talked about disabled people in 19th century europe" - exactly, that's the fucking problem, our whole culture was rotten to the very core and the problems of western society go much deeper than just a structural error in how we design our economies and run our factories, western society has a deep-seated contempt for humanity itself and delusions of anthropocentric mechanical perfection that have been undercutting our social progress from day one and continue to do so to this day.

We actually have this in britain: DPAC. It was founded as an anti-austerity movement and when disability benefits came back on the table the "gen z disability activist" group flamed out and DPAC is still there.

>>2920232
looks interesting

>>2921044
I want NATO dismantled but Ukraine should still kill Russians purely on the principle of not having to follow orders form Moscow

THE VERKHOVNA RADA STANDS

THE UKRAINAN GOVERNMENT CONDUCTS ITS BUSINESS WITH IMPUNITY

THE BANDERITE MEMORIAL/REBURIAL SERVICES PROCEED UNMOLESTED

THE BANDERITES ORGANIZE INTERNATIONAL MEETINGS FOR OTHER EUROPEAN FASCISTS

THE FUCKING PRESS HOTELS STILL DEFY THE SKIES WITH THEIR PRESENCE

2 more weeks of the anti terrorist zone ukristers

So like between now and a year ago what has changed? Is any side closer to winning?

>>2921601
>Is any side closer to winning?
nope

It's just a senseless meatgrinder at this point

And always was, btw

>>2919353
down or dead, lol

What’s the point in understanding any of this when you can’t apply it?

>>2921500
So you can tell when someone is speaking out of his ass.

>>2921510
Or you can just assume everyone is always speaking out of their ass by default

>>2921511
Then there is no point in speaking about anything so we should just chat with AI agents for a fix of pseudosocial relationship with a topping of hollow flattery.

>>2920637
Like this

>>2921431
>>2920656
Damn, beat me to it lol

>>2921277
Tbe post was accurate tho, the last American capitalist regime would rather nuke its own soil out of spite rather than allowing the USA to go red even for a second.

>>2921431
I love social democracy

>>2921436
t. will be crushed

>>2921056
what if the villains in captain planet were actually good because they were advancing the productive forces and the planeteers were reactionary anprims who worship gaiaia

>>2921084
let him cook
by him i mean the planet

>>2920699
furries are revolutionary

>>2921084
Gaia was real tho

>>2921178
Krystal is literally a princess but whatever

I hate how slow history is

>>2921276
>>because dialectics are false



You deserve to be sidelined, rendered inert, crippled by the sudden, vicious percussion of a Steyr AUG A1, a beast from the 80s, sleek, utterly decisive, and ruthlessly efficient, meant not just to wound, but to permanently dismantle the posture of complacency.

>>2921290
The monectic will eat you long before it eats itself

>>2921291

In struggle, martyrdom is the highest reward.

>>2921293
Or you can choose to stop being abrahamic