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Watched a movie called People's Emergency Briefing. The movie suggets that Members of the Parlament in the UK could be pressured enough to bring the subject of Climate Change to the front and start real change. Do you guys think this is possible, at least in the UK?

It seems renewable energies are getting much cheaper, so capitalisms might be tempted to transition. Batteries being harmful to the environment is oil propaganda, or so I was told.

Perhaps solving climate change doesnt requires a revolution? It might be solvable throguh the market and the State.
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>>2843182
The question matters because if the deadline for the revolution can be extended then it's a win for everyone.

The thing is the state does have the power to enforce an energetic transition, even if it contradicts capitalist interests

>>2843176
I could see a massive enough crisis compelling the national bourgeoisie to establish the equivalent of a Marxist-Leninist government. i.e. an autarkic developmental state ruled by a single party via the military and police.

>>2843176
A democratically elected representative standing up to the oil companies is a form of revolution in my eyes. It only works if they actually wrest power from them though.

>>2843199
Won't that policitian be seduced by money? Will they be elected in the first place?

>>2843199
the problem with that is that even if you have a popular mandate or manage to establish a dotp via a smashing of the old state, you're going to be structurally incapable of doing so effectively. unless you invent a source of massive economic growth you can take a chunk of and reinvest in green energy with all the infrastructure and unprofitable investment that would take. the uk is barely holding onto its welfare state, and it would end up getting taken hostage like greece if the policy of the government ran against its creditors, which is all the rich people you'd need to take wealth and income from to fund expensive things like a full green transition. i think the earliest we would get climate action and international cooperation on it from capitalist governments on a world scale is when it becomes politically justified by an immediate threat to the integrity of the capitalist system as a whole by threatening to make economic activity uninsurable



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I know this is going to sound fucked, and I'm not happy about saying it, but I'm starting to think that the only way the American left is going to survive is if the "Third Turdist" wing, the Maoists, the anarchists, the black bloc types gets crushed under the weight of a terrorism designation. and the best possible thing any normal level headed leftist can do is do not get involved, don't even vocally support them and turn them into martyrs. Espescially the anarchists, why would marxist-leninists who follow the actual communist international get involved in a civil war on behalf of them and other deviationists? And I hate that I'm even typing this but sometimes logic needs to trump feels.

Look, I've been in leftist spaces for years. I've read the theory. I've done the organizing. But these people are not serious. They treat revolution like a LARP. They assault random civilians. They smash windows and call it "propaganda of the deed.". They celebrate mentally ill shooters. They dress as hamas and celebrate the death of US servicemen in the streets. And then they wonder why normal workers think we're all insane.

The Islamist militant groups GWOT has been fighting for decades are hardened, disciplined, and ideologically driven by something that tells them they are rewarded in the next life. These anarchist and Maoist street fighters? They're not. They're soft. They're mostly middle class kids with face tattoos and oppositional defiance disorder and they can't even handle a 90 hour work week without quitting let alone the full weight of an anti terror crack down. their rehtoric is vietcong, their balls are the size of chestnuts. Once the GWOT energy gets redirected onto them once the feds start treating antifa like they treated Al Qaeda these people will fold like a lawn chair. They don't have the training, the discipline, or the popular support to survive a sustained crackdown. Now sure some of them are actually competent or smart people but those people are constantly drug down by the normal base of twitter maoists and tumblr anarchists.

And here's the part I really hate to admit, Trump might actually be doing real leftists a favor by going after them. Because right now, these people are the single biggest obstacle to the majority of Americans accepting socialism. Every time a normie sees a masked anarchist smashing a Starbucks window, that's another vote for the far right. Every time a Maoist calls a union worker a "labor aristocrPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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^^^
This man is crashing out because he was publicly exposed for being a serial LARPer. He will not be missed. Thus unto all who try to start shit

>>2843152


The only ones who larp are ANTIFA, as >>2843143 seen here. but im not about to start shit with a bunch of unhinged baal worshippers who protect worshipppers of a tiny dicked dear leader. good luck with your space, we'll be at /pol/ if you have any questions for real men.

antifa and anarchists are larpers and an embarrassment to the Marxist tradition

>>2843194

Stop posting on /pol/ you fucking idiots. you don't want to open that can of worms. let bygones be bygones. one fucking post on /pol/ mocking us or claiming your stupid ideologies and we will all flood here, and making our anti juche posts look like normal discussion in comparison to what comes your way. the juchetifa idiots are the ones who started getting our accounts mass banned first, so fuck off and stop telling people /pol/ is a glowie up. leftypol is the real ZOGGERS, shut the fuck up Anarcho Juche Cultists, go back to your hole, you fucking faggot baal worshiping ANTIFA Jewish tweakers are now posting threads on /pol/. You Are the zog. You fight for the rights of immigrants and rape gangs to displace and murder the culture of workers in your nation. You are not communists, you are identity politicians who love to virtue signal. stay in your little leftyhole and stay away from us. you're not going to fish for information there its air tight theyll just flame you in ways leftypol cant flame us. so fucking go ahead i dare you. make your retarded anti-christ juche posts and see what the fuck happens if you try to brigade and confuse /pol/. we have suffered far more than you larpers!


>>2843194

This x1000

>>2843237
Baby need a bottle?



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DPRK

>>We posted 3.1% growth in 2023 and 3.7% in 2024. Industrial output hit 105% of target. Ten thousand new homes rose in Pyongyang in a single year.


USA

>>40% of Americans can't cover a $400 emergency. Inflation ate 20% of their purchasing power since 2020. While we built homes, they built tent cities. While we hit production targets, they hit record eviction filings.


DPRK

>>We shut our borders, deployed health surveillance, and relied on traditional medicine and domestic production no Western vaccines, no Big Pharma blackmail.


USA

>>Over 1.1 million dead from COVID and they still haven't learned. Their healthcare system is a for-profit slaughterhouse. Insulin costs 10x what it does anywhere else. Opioid overdoses kill 100,000 a year. They don't protect their people they process them into profit margins.

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>>2843040
>and relied on traditional medicine and domestic production
Chinese Vaccines were heavily used.
https://www.nknews.org/2022/06/gavi-understands-north-korea-administering-covid-19-vaccines-from-china/
>Solar panels now power our factories
Not even CLOSE, i think you know this, it's just notable because it's such a weird little thing to actively lie about.
<we we we we us we
You're not from the DPRK, you're a schizophrenic from southern USA.

>>2843054
>you're a schizophrenic from southern USA.

I think he's from Washington state actually, someone says this same cop was posting on 420chan's /pol/ in 2011-12 while in police academy and criminal justice schooling. Nobody confirmed, but I do remember the cop from 420chan who said his life goal was to end communists and anarchists. he was banned from 420chan too.



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Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.

Previous QTDDTOT Archives
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>>2841190
the NSDAP said marxism is the guardian angel of capitalism. then we look back at engels and he said

<[…]anti-Semitism is merely the reaction of declining medieval social strata against a modern society consisting essentially of capitalists and wage-laborers, so that all it serves are reactionary ends under a purportedly socialist cloak; it is a degenerate form of feudal socialism and we can have nothing to do with that. The very fact of its existence in a region is proof that there is not yet enough capital there. Capital and wage-labor are today indivisible. The stronger capital and hence the wage-earning class becomes, the closer will be the demise of capitalist domination. So what I would wish for us Germans, amongst whom I also count the Viennese, is that the capitalist economy should develop at a truly spanking pace rather than slowly decline into stagnation.


  • Friedrich Engels, On Anti-Semitism, 1890

so the NSDAP was probably reacting to the perception that both bourgeois liberals and marxists seemed, from their perspective to collaborate to "jew" everyone. But I think Engels is right. the foundation of the NSDAP was not "leftism" even in the sense of the "left wing of capital." They were a reaction against "jewish meddling" which was "eroding tradition." They merely used socialism to cloak this fundamentally reactionary philosophy.

however after they took power, they worekd closely with industrialists, and even enabled zionist migration by deporting jews to palestine. the term "privatization" was also coined to describe the nazi economy. So I think that is telling.

>>2842933
You can have tribes of around 100 people before coerced labour is required to organise production. It is impossible to have any complex society without implicit and explicit violence.

>>2842945
>retvrn to hunter gatherer
where did the neanderthals go?

>>2841190
They were. They weren't exactly turbo left wing like Strasser, but fundamentally lefty. The thing is, their definition of left wing was different than ours. For them, marxism wasn't real socialism. They blamed marx for stealing socialism and adding no-property, no-individualism and internationalism to it. Basically the exact things that they fought the jews were pushing. It was a very special mixture of antisemitism based on anticapitalism, but with support for individual growth and support for companies, if they were vital for the volksgemeinschaft.
Now look at real right wingers. What are they exactly? Libertarians. The don't want any state, any rules nor solidarity in any form, national or international. The end game of right wing would be anarcho capitalism. We may not like it, but National Socialists were a very special form of nationalist lefties making experiments.

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>>2842972
> It was a very special mixture of antisemitism based on anticapitalism



 

genuinely, why the FUCK is no one talking about el niño?
usually the media will use known nothingburgers to alarm people while sweeping actual happenings under the rug, compare ebola/hantavirus to the covid pandemic, for example. the fact that we're all dead silent about this potentially never-before-seen happening is extremely worrying to me, what do they know? is it really as bad as current predictions? could it be fucking worse?
the most optimistic predictions would place this as the worst el niño in history, even worse than the 19th century one which resulted in millions of deaths worldwide. now, combine that with pre-existing shortages in the supply chains due to the iran war, which limits the amount of fertilisers available, and we could be looking at a total catastrophe, we'd face floods, famines, and even worse temperatures, with effects varying depending on geographical location

the worst part is, i cant even find any cope trying to debunk this like you had with covid, people are just accepting it or covering their ears trying to ignore it, this gives me a reaaaally bad feeling, im starting to tweak out. are we genuinely fucked? is it unironically over?
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>>2841241
youre focusing on unrealistic predictions made by anonymous schizos online instead of the actually reasonable ones by serious political analysts that accurately predicted the effects of the war.

>>2841241
Cuba, Haiti and Sudan

I've been hearing about le hyper niño for months by now on my news feed but I never ever click

can any of you goyim explain to me what is it and how will it kill millions?

>>2842871
Drought and famine, especially for regions that are already struggling with excessive droughts, I know you are purposefully being obtuse, but how do you get through life being this ignorant? A pig is more curious then you

>>2842888
first: rude, I'm just le asking questions :^)

I know it's not your job to educate or agitate or organize, but your information here is fucking garbage and I have learned nothing new from it (an-nihil being low autism score was already known information)



 

Brazilian court convicts Jair Bolsonaro’s son of seeking US help for his father
The office of Brazil’s ‌prosecutor general had ‌charged Eduardo Bolsonaro with courting US authorities to help his ‌father’s case by imposing sanctions on the court’s justices and tariffs on Brazilian goods. The younger Bolsonaro, a former lawmaker, moved to the United States in 2025, months before ‌the trial that convicted the rightwing ex-president of plotting a coup.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/16/brazilian-court-convicts-eduardo-bolsonaro-us-help-father-jair

Peruvian Prosecutor Seeks Prison Terms for Former Police Chief Over Injuries During Protests
Zanabria was leading police operations in Lima when social protests erupted following Castillo’s imprisonment on Dec. 7, 2022. At the time, social unrest spread to cities across the country for two months, especially in southern Peru’s Andean region, where the former leader had received his strongest electoral support.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/peruvian-prosecutor-seeks-prison-terms-for-former-police-chief-over-injuries-during-protests/

Tireless human rights activist Taty Almeida, founding member of Madres de Plaza de Mayo, dies at 95
Almeida's life changed forever after the disappearance of her son Alejandro, aged 20, in 1975 at the hands of the far-right Triple A paramilitary organisation. For decades, she demanded answers from the state as to his fate. … The activist’s daughter, Fabiana Almeida, told reporters that she and her brother Jorge realised on Sunday morning that their mother "wasn't doing well.”
https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argentina/tireless-human-rights-activist-taty-almeida-founding-member-of-madres-de-plaza-de-mayo-dies-at-95.phtml
https://archive.ph/n2buG

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Federal prosecutors charge 15 people with impeding agents during Minnesota immigration crackdown
Federal prosecutors have charged 15 people with impeding the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown in Minnesota, accusing them of conspiring against the federal government through a range of actions intended to block arrests and deportations. During a news conference Tuesday, Minnesota U.S. Attorney Daniel N. Rosen said the defendants “violently opposed the enforcement of federal law” by setting up blockades around government buildings, throwing chunks of ice at federal vehicles and “stalking” agents as they moved through Minneapolis.
https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-trump-ice-98e30301d67d3a368efbd8fafa72bf17

Pro-Zionist organization files discrimination charges against National Education Assocation
In April, the pro-Zionist Louis D. Brandeis Center for Human Rights Under Law filed charges with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) last April against the National Education Association (NEA), claiming the teachers’ union created a “hostile environment” for Jewish and Israeli members, particularly at a July 2025 Representative Assembly in Portland, Oregon.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/06/16/arxr-j16.html

In Senate Race, Michigan’s El-Sayed Hammers Message on Medicare for All
El-Sayed made the case for the program—supported by more than 100 members of the Democratic caucus in Congress as well as 78% of Democratic voters—in a video he posted on social media Monday, asking Michigan voters to imagine being diagnosed with cancer—only to realize they’ll have to drive three hours to get the nearest cancer center, like many residents who don’t live near one of Michigan’s two nationally designated, comprehensive cancer treatment facilities.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/medicare-for-all-abdul-el-sayed

Trump-backed Collins beats Kemp’s pick to take on Ossoff for Georgia Senate
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Tudeh Party welcomes U.S.-Iran agreement, warns against "merchants of war"
The Iranian communist party argues that the country remains trapped in a state of political uncertainty despite the reported framework agreement. According to the article, Iran today finds itself "neither at war nor at peace," facing a complex combination of external threats and deep internal crises. The Tudeh Party strongly condemns the recent military aggression carried out by Israel and the United States against Iran, highlighting the devastating consequences of attacks on civilian infrastructure and warning of the dangers posed by continued imperialist intervention in the region. The article points to the bombing of civilian facilities and the threat of a broader regional conflict as evidence of the aggressive nature of U.S. policy. At the same time, the party stresses that the gravest challenges facing Iran stem from domestic conditions. Rising inflation, unemployment, poverty, social inequality and the continued erosion of living standards have placed enormous burdens on millions of workers and ordinary people. The article notes that growing labor, pensioners' and social protests demonstrate the persistence of widespread dissatisfaction with the country's economic and political situation.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/06/tudeh-party-welcomes-us-iran-agreement-warns-against-merchants-of-war.html

The Far Right Is Fueling Racist Violence in Belfast, with State Complicity
Belfast still bears the scars of the decades-long civil and religious conflict known as The Troubles. Walking a single block, you can pass from a Republican neighborhood with tricolor flags and murals supporting Palestine and a 32-county Irish Republic, into a unionist neighborhood where Union Jacks abound and pro-monarchist slogans and images of the king are common. In the latter neighborhood, you can even find the occasional mural supporting the Israeli Defense Forces. And no wonder. Belfast’s history in the 20th century is marked by repeated attacks by unionist groups on Republican (mostly Catholic) neighborhoods, burning their homes and businesses — often with the complicity of the local police and the British army, which at the time occupied all of Northern Ireland undPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>"nationalist and patriotic" third world right winger
>spends hundreds of millions of their ill-gotten gains trying to bribe the empire to put sanctions on their country
>still have millions of downright fanatics at home
I think I'll abandon this world before ever understanding this



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Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels developed a way of understanding society, history, and social change that remains essential for anyone trying to make sense of the world today. Their work is not a collection of abstract ideas or moral pronouncements. It is a method of analysis, a critique of capitalism, and a political project aimed at creating a more equitable world. This guide introduces the fundamental concepts of Marxism in accessible language.

The materialist foundation
The most basic distinction in Marxist thought is between idealism and materialism. Idealism holds that ideas come first, that the material world is shaped by thoughts and concepts. Religious and magical thinking are forms of idealism, as is the common belief that human nature is fixed and unchangeable. Materialism holds the opposite: material conditions come first, and our ideas arise from them. Marxists believe that how a society produces food, shelter, and other necessities shapes everything else, including our ideas, beliefs, and values. This does not mean ideas don't matter. It means they emerge from material conditions and cannot be understood apart from them. When people ask why human beings behave in certain ways, Marxists look first to the economic and social structures in which people live.

Historical materialism
Historical materialism applies this way of thinking to history. The material conditions of a society determine its social structure, and class struggle drives historical change. Societies evolve through different modes of production, each containing internal contradictions that eventually lead to its replacement.

Human history has passed through several stages. There was primitive communism, where hunter-gatherer societies existed without class divisions. Slave society built ancient civilizations on slave labor. Feudalism followed, with its lords, serfs, and peasants. Capitalism is the industrial system we live under today. Each stage contains contradictions that lead to its replacement by a new system, and capitalism is no exception.

Class struggle
Class struggle is at the center of Marxist analysis. In every class society, a ruling class controls the means of production and an oppressed class does the work. Under capitalism, the bourgeoisie owns factories, machinery, land, and other productive property. The proletariat owns only its laPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

The state and its fate
Marxism views the state—government, police, military, and courts—as an instrument of class rule. It is not neutral. Under capitalism, the state protects private property, enforces contracts favorable to capital, suppresses worker resistance, and promotes capitalist ideology.

After a socialist revolution, the proletariat would use the state to suppress the old ruling class. But as class distinctions disappear, the state becomes unnecessary. It would wither away, replaced by cooperative, democratic management of society. This is not anarchism. It is a prediction about what happens when class antagonisms end. The state exists because classes exist. When classes are eliminated, the state has nothing to do.

Reform and revolution
Marxism argues capitalism cannot be reformed into a just system. Its contradictions will intensify and cannot be resolved within the system. Reforms can improve conditions in the short term, but they are always limited, can be rolled back, and do not change the fundamental power structure. Eventually, reforms reach their limits.

Revolution means the working class takes state power, the means of production are socialized, and society is reorganized in the interests of the majority. This is not a coup or a rebellion. It is a political process that requires workers to develop class consciousness, organize collectively, and seize control of the state.

Workers must understand their position in society, recognize their common interests, and realize the need for collective action. This does not happen automatically. Effective revolution requires trade unions for economic struggle, political parties for political struggle, and leadership to provide strategy and coordination.

The phrase "dictatorship of the proletariat" is widely misunderstood. It does not mean dictatorship in the authoritarian sense. It means workers exercise political power, the old ruling class is suppressed, and democracy is extended to the majority rather than reserved for the wealthy.

Socialism and communism
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Marxism and anarchism
Marxists and anarchists share opposition to capitalism, but they differ on fundamental questions of strategy and organization. Marxists see the state as a tool that can be used for liberation. Anarchists view all states as inherently oppressive. Marxists argue a transitional worker's state is necessary. Anarchists believe the state must be abolished immediately. Marxists emphasize organization and discipline. Anarchists favor spontaneous action and decentralization. Marxists see revolution as a process requiring planning. Anarchists envision revolution as immediate and total.

Imperialism
Lenin extended Marx's analysis to understand imperialism, which he called the highest stage of capitalism. Imperialism is characterized by monopoly capitalism, where giant corporations dominate; finance capital, where banks control industry; the export of capital to less developed countries; the division of the world among capitalist powers; and intensified competition leading to war. Imperialism is not a policy choice. It is the logical outcome of capitalism's drive for profit and expansion.

Why Marxism matters today
Marxism remains relevant because the problems it identified have only grown more urgent. The environmental crisis is driven by capitalism's profit motive, which treats nature as an infinite resource and externalizes environmental costs. Capitalist competition leads to war, arms races, and conflict. Inequality is not a side effect of capitalism. It is a feature of the system.

Only a planned economy based on human need, not profit, can address ecological collapse. Peace is impossible within a system based on competition for markets and resources. Capitalism produces not just inequality but also fascism and authoritarianism as responses to its own crises.

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>>2842768
>Imperialism

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>>2842766
>as is the common belief that human nature is fixed and unchangeable
Material conditions bless Karl Marx he found that human nature was, is and will be labor!



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Unless men are maddened in the battlefield they cannot stand it to hear appeals for help and not respond to them. The hero goes, and what the hero does, all feel they ought to have done as well. The sophisms of the brain cannot resist the mutual aid feeling, because this feeling has been nurtured by thousands of years of human social life and hundreds of thousands of years of prehuman life in societies.
-Kropotkin

In the US when I hear a defense of our founding fathers who owned slaves, particularly Jefferson and Washington, I always hear that morals were just different back then and that you basically can’t expect these people to know any better in 1776. This is stupid.

Morality is a constant. You know when you’re harming someone or inconveniencing them. You should think of how they feel about it and you should judge particularly impactful interactions for yourself and others from as many angles as possible as many times as possible. Don’t be neurotic, but hearing the screams of someone being whipped shouldn’t take a struggle session and psychological damage to evoke emotions over. Ruminating on all the memories that stick out we which ones we could’ve and should’ve acted better in. It’s a natural, gut instinct that some defective people may be born without, but it’s a common factor that should be the basis for society.

This is very vague, I’ve only described a notion of what’s “moral” or “not moral” and these categories do need to be demystified, but the constant shifting and adjusting for moral shores is the job of legislatures. I know many will come and start posing moral hypotheticals which I’ll be happy to answer, but in a world where were giving back to the billionaires directly without even bothering to mask it, giving back to foreign proxy’s with shrinking domestic protections, and giving back to politicians, cops and even criminals willing to abuse the courts system without any consideration or efficiency for the people making the system run, I want to focus on at least starting to round the edges.

I know this places namesake is 4chan. I see the reading list contains antisemitic texts, not just chapters from Bakunin, but shit like The Jewish Question and a section on German Idealism. I’m not an idiot, but clearly you’re all here because you feel something that keeps you off platforms like instagram and twitter and yet a compulsion to strive for better than 4chan. Typically the most politically involved Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Bumping because I would like a Kropotkin flag

>>2827879
>Unless men are maddened in the battlefield they cannot stand it to hear appeals for help and not respond to them.
Damn, this guy lived in a crazy bubble. How could an aristocrat like him get such a rosy view of humanity? Did he never overhear his peers talking about the lower orders?

>>2842685
He wrote this after escaping a tsarist gulag and spending nearly 30 years exiled in Western Europe. The man was born aristocratic but willingly chose to become a naturalist and advocate for the rights of all men, which got him thrown in prison. He knew more of the depravity of mankind than I think most of us ever will.

I wouldn't say morality is constant, but it is true that there's a kernel of human empathetic instinct around which most moral systems develop. Even the most blatantly horrific atrocities like chattel slavery and the Holocaust had to make extensive ideological efforts to dehumanize the victims. The perpetrators knew that if anybody saw them as human beings, the inherent instinct for empathy would undermine their legitimacy. Ever since its inception, class society has had to wage a constant battle against this instinct in order to survive. Kropotkin definitely had a point about communism being the truest expression of humanity's natural social and empathetic inclinations.

>>2842784
>I wouldn't say morality is constant
I think there are cultural contexts which give some things more or less meaning, but the effect you’ve had on others could, can, and always will be able to be quantified along the exact same lines of good and bad.



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Both were against to differing degrees singular individuals accumulating extreme wealth to oppose everyone. Both wanted high decentralization and sometimes assumes an agrarian material world. Jeffersonian democracy is interesting because it's based on the idea that people can govern themselves without experts leading them, and that liberty is kept alive through local organization autonomy and action.

Jefferson himself however was a slave owner and a rapist and a bad person, but I don't think that invalidates some of his ideas. And he supported private property.

Thoughts?
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some of the founding fathers were based

>>2839560
Paine. That's it.

>>2839560
Most were

>>2839439
The probably with Jeffersonian democracy is eventually all the yeoman farmers turn into proles.

socialism was just the logical conclusion to liberalism, but liberals stopped being radicals once they became the new elite



 

Any predictions for the outcome of the 2026 American midterm elections?

Any socialists on the ballot?

Any guesses as to how the redistributing/gerrymandering issue will play into things?

How do you think issues like Trump’s wars, the tariffs, ICE raids, Black issues, Medicare For All, the climate, voting rights, abortion, trans issues, autistic/neurodivergent issues, and Palestine will affect the outcome? For instance, are we seeing a split in the Democrats over Palestine and other foreign policy issues?
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>>2813177
History has shown that doesn’t happen, quite the opposite, fascism is a tool of the bourgeois to stop Communism.

>>2822323
It’s literally worse at that than regular liberal democracy, especially social democracy

either the republicans gerry their mander hard enough to maintain their majority or we are about to see the funniest
round of republican republican moralfagging since kirk got shot

We should make this a general methinks

>>2817147
but North Carolina might become communist in the u.s senate. just wait and see in November.



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