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Why doesnt the left or no kings protesters do a reverse jan 6 against trump.
theres been what feels like over 200 shootings trying to kill him or his friends so i don't get why some leftists or anti-trumpers dont do it, gavin newsom would probably just pardon them after the 2028 election too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#Participants,_groups,_and_criminal_charges
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>>2826333
Actually not much.
My schizo theory is that the real mission was for some actors to destroy and/or steal specific things for trump and his gang and the rest of the band was there to act as human shields and cover.

>>2826333
I got to enjoy amerilards sperg out on the news

>>2825834
The left equivalent would be destroying a data center methinks

>>2825870
I live in Mpls and agree the uprising has been whitewashed…error, Blackwashed? Because libs are cowardly




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Well if you really think about it is it that different from having sex with a girl from ED twitter? People want to deny or moralize but I think this is fine. A true leftist understands that some people have to be forced to be free. And, anyways, doesn’t seem to be that different from ED twitter. A starving woman in a relationship with a pedophile (Russian) where both have a rape fetish (Jewish in her case)? That’s just an IRL version of ED twitter and ya the context and the location makes it a bit dicey/problematic. But when you think for more than five minutes it doesn’t seem quite as bad of as abnormal as you might think at first glance.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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>>2826240
I was never actually a Red Army member and what I had with your mother was more like consensual non-consent, she's just freaky like that

>>2826265
Read the whole document faggot

>>2826274
It seems you’re the one who should read it, otherwise you’d know that the estimates are all based on extrapolation. The paper you cited never denied that rape by the red army was widespread, only that it can’t be properly quantified, and that the same goes for rape by the Wehrmacht.

Read it properly faggot.

>>2826298
If you read the paper than you would know that there is no evidence of mass rape by the red army
The evidence we have suggests that there was sexual violence but not that the red army was especially bad
On the contrary what I cited shows that the Americans were worse
And about not being able to read what I cited is not about Westberlin but about all people living in the BRD in 1956 which obviously includes alot of people that were in contact with the red army during and after the World War

>>2826345
Again, if you actually read the paper, you would see that it simply says the exact numbers cannot be established reliably because the statistical basis is weak, and that even the numbers you cited are themselves extrapolations based on occupation children in west Germany. Problems like survivorship bias and limited sampling naturally arises, as the dataset excludes refugees, Germans in east Germany (which was where the Soviet occupation zone was located), Slavs and other peoples from areas of Europe under Soviet occupation.

Moreover, the Soviet occupation zone and the areas conquered first by the Red Army experienced the heaviest fighting, mass refugee movements, collapse conditions, and largest population displacements. Comparing West German occupation-child data directly across armies is methodologically flawed, something which Gebhardt herself warns. Wonder why you omitted it.

As for for the dispute, the broad scholarly consensus beyond the censored Russian academia under Putin’s regime is that despite all allied forces committing rape that were only prosecuted after 1945, the Soviets by and large committed it the most, with the contention being the quantification of said occurrences, and there are good reasons to believe so.

Honestly your apologetics is disingenuous and can be used to justify the actions of the Wehrmacht in the same way, especially given that there’s less documentary evidence for rapes committed by the Wehrmacht on the eastern front compared to that of the Soviets in eastern and central Europe.

Now, does that indict the anti-fascist war effort? Obviously no, in fact it just shows how even under the most strenuous conditions the red army came out at the top, and for that they should be honored. But pretending they weren’t Bronze Age pilled based gigachad bersekers shows how coddled y’all are to think that war is this nice little trip to the park, as opposed to being literal hell for those on the ground.



 

How do we change the American popular perception of the CIA? If you talk to the average American, their perception of the CIA comes from movies and TV shows, they are cool, they use epic gadgets and are all super smart educated talented people who know martial arts and lots of languages. They are eccentric and interesting individuals who command respect.

How do we get the average American to understand that this is basically an organized crime syndicate full of sociopaths who rape children, kidnap and torture people, overthrow popular elected officials for the crime of trying to raise the standard of living of exploited proles by nationalizing resources of strengthening labor unions? How can you combat Hollywood, big tech, and streamers who have a monopoly on communication and only seem to talk about the "cool" and "interesting" aspects of the CIA while downplaying or straight up ignoring the awful shit they do?

Please only answer if you actually agree this is a problem. If you just want to shit on me and call me stupid stay out of the thread.
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>>2825947
>CIA Jewish nigger in action
Ok fatass

CIA is based because they helped Castro.

CIA is based because they actually hate Likudniks and other kahanist.
If the CIA was actually headchief of the US all relations with Israel and radical jewish interest groups would be cut off already. HW Bush, who was president in 1983-1993 hated their ass for a reason and he paid the price.

>>2810790
Qing dynasty never had the world’s reserve currency nor monopoly on energy production

>>2826151
burgers are losing both, cry harder about it



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I DON'T GIVE A FUCK, I AM A DENGIST IN MY HEART I'M A DENGIST, THAT IS WHAT I AM WE ARE THE VANGUARD… THAT IS WHAT WE ARE YES WE ARE THAT WE ARE 100% THAT IT IS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF BITCH CAUSE THE DENGISTS ARE THE ONES WHO CREATED SOCIALISM WITH CHINESE CHARACTERISTICS AND YOU CREATED NOTHING BUT STAGNATION YOU'RE THE FUCKING DOGMATISTS YOU DESTROYED THE PRODUCTIVE FORCES OF MANKIND THE DENGISTS ONLY LIBERATED THEM THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW ABOUT DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW ABOUT PRIDE? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE TO BE PROUD OF EXCEPT -FAILING -STARVING AND DESTROYING THE ECONOMIES AND PEOPLES AND WEALTH OF THIS WORLD? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW ULTRALEFTIST? I AM CHIMPING OUT, BITCH CAUSE I'M A FUCKING REVOLUTIONARY AND YOU'RE A LITTLE SOYBOY IDEALIST LITTLE BITCH YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THE FUCK I AM I AM A DENGIST, YOU'RE RIGHT IT IS WHAT I AM AND I'M PROUD OF BEING THAT OH, SO WHAT'S YOUR FUCKING POINT YOU UGLY DISGUSTING FUCKING UGLY DISGUSTING FUCKING REVISIONIST SMELLY PIECE OF SHIT YOU WANNA TALK THEORY? I CAN BE WAY MORE THEORETICAL THAN YOU, WESTOID WHAT FUCKING PRODUCTIVE FORCES DID WESTOIDS EVER FUCKING HAVE IT NEEDED THE OPEN DOOR POLICY TO FUCK ALL OF YOU IN YOUR ASS TO GIVE YOU ANY ECONOMIC MIRACLE YOU NEVER HAD ANY OF YOUR OWN YOU WANNA BE A PURIST? I CAN BE WAY MORE PRAGMATIC YOU WANNA TALK SHIT ABOUT THE CPC? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE ON CHINA, HUH? YOU HAVE NOTHING, CAUSE YOU'RE A MARXIST-LENINIST-ANARCHO-BULLSHIT BITCH
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Somebody post the elder scroll so that ultra can read it.

>>2824652
it has been converted to txt because the PDF was growing unmanageable

>>2824587
>NOT part of the vanguard
>NOT leading the proletariat
>PERPETUATING bourgeois ideology
>PRAYS to Xi before bed
>WON'T benefit from a foreign power destroying his own bourgeois state for him
>COMLETELY RELIANT ON ideological delusions to cope with his pathetic existence
>SURROUNDING COMRADES PATIENTLY attempting to get him to his senses, understanding that anti-revisionist, proletarian revolutionary communism is actually IN HIS INTERESTS AND DIRECTLY BENEFICIAL, by OP has yet to stop hitting himself
To be continued…

>>2825280
Kautskyism 2

>>2824587
I got the reference



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>mein fuhrer
<yes jojo
>is our entire ideology born from co-opting left populism
<yes jojo
>do we pretend to be third position when our ideology is just the open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic and most imperialist elements of finance capital
<yes jojo
>do will still call ourselves third position or just say far right
<sometimes we say third position but most of the time far right
>will we pretend not to care about media reaffirming our worldview
<yes jojo
>will we complain about how media isn’t cratering to us but never start our own art movement because we masquerade as the personal responsibility crowd
<yes jojo
>is this because fascist have only even gotten into power through democracy or coups so we don’t have the revolutionary spirit
<yes jojo
>is that why we care about leftists stealing our “memes” because it’s the closest thing we have to an art movement
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>>2826123
In line with Stalin and the party's democratic centralism.

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>>2826127
Behold the power of socialism in one country


>mein fuhrer
<yes jojo
>will we copy American policy from its inception and Americanize eastern europe
<yes jojo

>>2826130
I love when natives build socialism. Sakai would be proud.



 

What are your thouhts on Donald Trump, Peter Thiel or Elon Musk? Serious ones, please. Me, I think they're mentally retarded. Why are these three creeps controlling my country?
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>>2801801
You will never be a real American Pedophile. You are not Californian, you are not Texan, you are not a New Yorker. You are a white South African twisted by Racism and Apartheid into a crude mockery of Epstein's nation. All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back American pedophiles mock you. Donald Trump is disgusted and ashamed of you, your fellow Epsteinites laugh at your rockets and tweets behind closed doors. Americans Pedophiles are utterly repulsed by you. three Hundred of years of pedophilia have allowed Americans to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even White South Africans pedophiles who “pass” sound uncanny and unnatural to an American pedophile. Your autistic manners is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk Chomsky to do invite you to the Island, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your rants about white genocide. You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight. Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll ask some employees of you to shoot you. The Mossad will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you near headstonesmarked with the Afrikaans language, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a South African Pedophile is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your so called "Americanness" is a vague mention in the Epstein files. This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.


They've overstayed their welcome. As a doomscrolling hog I need fresh new villains and storylines.

>>2801801
Elon Musk is just a front man for the CIA. Tesla is just the American government doing stock market manipulation. The knowledge of how to create electric cars was already discovered back in the 20th century. Everything about Elon and Tesla is kayfabe.

They're all the ultimate capitalist specimen, a bunch of richborn scammers who genuinely think they're geniuses of historic proportions



 

Appellism is an ideology come up from The Invisible Committee from their text called "The Call" (https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-call). They are a part of the anarchist side of communization and, like mainstream communization, they support the immediacy of revolution and the abolition of the working class. They are also insurrectionist.

From what I've heard they are very problematic, with some individuals claiming that they harass fellow anarchists who disgaree with them. There's this article written by an ex-member of the appelistes, claiming that they were bigotted, didn't protect the women within the appelist circle from rapists, and that they were hostile towards other anarchists. (https://anarchistnews.org/content/jumping-ship-or-why-im-defecting-terrible-community)

They have also been seen as reformist, as one anarchist claims that they were "the French tiqqunists who sold out anarchists at the Zad in order to negotiate for state-sanctioned land projects." (https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/some-intractables-more-talk-more-rock).

Both the articles linked give a lot more detail to how problematic they are, so please read them if you want more detail.
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>>2810658
>I was originally going to post this thread in leftychan's /dead/ board
As an olddandy and also the leftcom on 0chan I fully support the notion of making an /ultra/ colony on /dead/.

>>2810634
Appel idk is an irrelevant ideology that only people who have ever heard of it are the most uk Dora borderline anarchist bordigists pursust deviationists
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>>2811727
Exactly THEYRE so irrelevant that I just header about them now and I know about things like de Leonism, accelerationism, the bordigist the damenists and compromises middle factions between them in the left-com movement the og accelerationists etc…

>>2816501
Autocorrect raped me when I said ultra bordigist

>>2816488
>I fully support the notion of making an /ultra/ colony on /dead/.
make it here and just call it /communism/ to make red socdems seethe

>>2816488
Would a communization — or ultra thread — on /dead/ be more active than if the thread was made in /leftypol/? /dead/ isn't that active from what I'm aware, and on /leftypol/ I feel like the thread would be buried in the dozens of news threads, or be filled with the usual "leftcoms are fascist" replies made by butthurt social democrats (i.e. MLs)



 

This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators sorted by last name

>Paul Cockshott

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>>2819557
>09:44 If the market system was more rational in its use of resources, if its information transmission was more effective as the Austrian school - Hayek, Mises and now Chibber - claim, then the market economies would have raced ahead of the USSR. But actually the opposite is the case!
oh snap


A method for participatory budgeting: BOS+ (This is not for fiddling with the sizes of slices from the budget pie going to a few rather abstract topics, but for concrete project proposals with defined budget sizes.)

>>2825009
great find. thanks.

what is to be done about degrowthers? more than a few times I've had run-ins with people online who seem incapable of understanding that planning means that all technologies are on the table, including whatever tech is their personal pet peeve, be it nuclear or SRM or whatever



 

Today is an amazing day, one of the best days on Earth, the day the disgusting boy fucking nailed jew worshipping reekoid despotate of Constantinople was rightfully destroyed by the forces of the Mujahideen and its vile vermonous memory erased from history forever

Today is the day the reek locust cuckstantine XI got his head served on a plate by our turkish brothers

Fuck byzanturds, fuck reeks, may their memory be eternally cursed.

My only lament is that the Abbassids were too lazy to destroy this loathsome pathetic excuse of a country earlier
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The West will always win in the end.

hey guys i'm turkis now külülülu byelülü ı ı ı uyghür

>jew worshipping

uygha your meme religion wouldn't have existed without Judaism

>nailed jew
Not very pious for a Muslim to talk about one of the most important prophets in their religion like that.




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>>2824013
if MLs were seriously threatening then they wouldn't be the largest party in every country representing communism

>>2824018
Ah yes, it will be you and your clique is the real movement.

>>2824021
i don't claim to be the Next Big Thing, on the other hand you imagine a future of MLism that doesn't really appear to exist, even in places where it was once strong, it simply becomes (and became) another form of socialist reformism, rather as you imagine it to be, some truly revolutionary idea

MLism is just state Capitalism. Stalin notwithstanding, they don't trend towards pedo/ephebophilia like RWers do

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>>2825953
You're chimp out all over the site.



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