/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

That's awesome

>>2817565
I just don't want Fascists to relax, be it in the real world or the virtual one.

I wish the press would keep covering our activities though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtXyYKBtd_Q

Marx underestimated how important ideology is.

>>2817144

“According to the materialist conception of history, the ultimately determining element in history is the production and reproduction of real life. More than this neither Marx nor I have ever asserted. Hence if somebody twists this into saying that the economic element is the only determining one, he transforms that proposition into a meaningless, abstract, senseless phrase.”

Engels

>>2817164
you are telling me a lot of the marxists i met online didnt know shit? because huh

>>2817196
>hate successful American businessmen and statesmen
Agreed anybody who thinks the biosphere shouldn't be wiped out does.
>like Trump
He's successful as a businessman I guess. As a statesman he's a clown, everyone knows not to listen to him.

>>2816859
it's probably more like 25-30%, and it's not entirely that they're lumpen, it's that most parties have a core support of around this size. a chunk of those aren't lumpen, but they're assholes and strongly negatively polarized against liberals. so long as the enemy is worse, it's easy to keep a chunk of your support.

UK labour is a good illustrative example. in 1983 they ran on a "notoriously" left-wing manifesto and lost badly… they got 28% of the vote. in 2005, having just started the iraq war and proven incredibly right wing in power they got… 35% of the vote. in 2010, having continued the iraq war, appointed a dour scotsman as their leader, spent years infighting, in the midst of an economic recession, having contradictory stances on immigration (at once promising "british jobs for british workers" to pander to the BNP vote and accidentally insulting a woman whining about immigration as a "bigoted woman" in a hot mic moment) they got… 29% of the vote.

why am i telling you this? to illustrate that labour loyalists were loyal to labour no matter what labour did. why? because the conservatives were always worse, and because labour always gave them a handful of breadcrumbs to show there was an inch between them and the conservatives.

in 2019 labour lost badly after a massive press and institutional campaign against the party, with its own MPs sabotaging it, and a wrecking campaign to give the party an unworkable brexit position. they got… 33% of the vote. in 2024 they ran a bland man on a bland manifesto who spent his whole time attacking the membership of the party and they won with… 32% of the vote. but these things have limits: in power, still tacking to the right, with their opposition apparently irrelevant, and still attacking their support base, the dam has given way and labour are now on 16% of the vote and falling. but this has taken more than 35 years of the party actively hating its own membership and supporters and even then half of that core still haven't abandoned the party. i personally know people who would be just as if not more scathing about the party's record and they are still party members because the party as an abstract ideal is part of their identity even as the party as an actually existing organization is half moronic and haPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2817150
I’ve said that I don’t view Fascism as the “anti-Christ” ideology that most Western leftists do. Anything that can most effectively dismantle or radically change the current world system would be ideal. As for the diaspora, I’m ambivalent. I think they should return home with the money they make and try to improve our home nations/

>>2815831
lmao

>>2815824
Once again this site is filled with silicon valley type freaks and show that no hope its possible for the modern world as we have murdered any sense of imagination

>>2815839
I’m almost sickeningly curious about what’s going to happen to countries that never industrialized but still reached below-replacement birth rates. Obviously It won’t mean “my country will be extinct in 23.4 years,” but it could radically change the economy and would basically force governments to change the status quo.

>>2817423
That sounds great

>>2817177
>kiss the wall
What?

>>2817336
Like it or not, most working-class people are twats like me.

>>2817342
I don't know why you think I'm baiting, but I can assure you I'm not.

>>2817353
Humiliation ritual

She seems like an airhead.

Leftypol mods confirmed pro-aipac, probably receive aipac money

Students block access to RUM despite court order.
Students at several campuses launched demonstrations to demand the resignation of UPR President Zayira Jordán Conde after she removed several chancellors. The protesters also said the president is doing little to defend the university from budget cuts and attempts to privatize it.
https://www.sanjuandailystar.com/post/students-block-access-to-rum-despite-court-order

Workers on New York commuter rail end their strike after wage deal
The workers, represented by five labor unions, began ​their work stoppage on Saturday to force the ​state-controlled Metropolitan Transportation Authority to agree to a new contract at the bargaining table. The workers said they had ​not received any wage increases in three years.
https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/workers-new-york-commuter-rail-end-their-strike-after-wage-deal-2026-05-19/

US claims ‘emergency refugee situation’ as it admits 10,000 more white South Africans
The US government has said it will increase the number of white South Africans it admits as refugees this year from about 7,500 to 17,500, claiming that “unforeseen developments in South Africa created an emergency refugee situation.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/19/us-government-increase-white-south-africa-refugees

Former Hartford police officer charged in fatal shooting of a Black man in mental distress
The officer, Joseph Magnano, was fired by the Hartford Police Department following the Feb. 27 shooting of Steven Jones, a 55-year-old man with a history of mental illness who had been walking through the street holding a large knife. Magnano was charged Monday by the Connecticut Inspector General after he turned himself into law enforcement, according to Hartford Police Union President James Rutkauski.
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Mining Company Opts Out of Controversial Project Near Sacred Site in Black Hills
On Thursday, May 7, a mining company announced it was stopping operations three days after tribes and advocacy organizations were granted a temporary restraining order in federal court. On May 4, the U.S. District Court of South Dakota granted a temporary restraining order to nine federally recognized tribes and three conservation nonprofit organizations, stopping a controversial drilling project that tribes say threatened a sacred site in the Black Hills. “Pete Lien & Sons, Inc. wishes to formally withdraw the Plan of Operations for the Rochford Mineral Exploration Project and requests the United States Forest Service withdraw the Decision Memo that was entered on February 27, 2026,” wrote Brian Tideman, the Chief Operating Officer of Pete & Lien & Sons to U.S. Forest Service Ranger Jim Gubbels on May 7. “Pete Lien & Sons does not intend to apply for another CE [Categorical Exclusion] or file another Plan of Operations for exploratory drilling at this site.” The mining company’s decision was widely celebrated by tribes and their advocates, with many saying that the withdrawal is a success. The project’s mining permit was recently granted by the U.S. Forest Service on February 27, 2026, where the agency issued a Decision Memo approving the Rochford Mineral Exploratory Drilling Project, near Pe’Sla.
https://unicornriot.ninja/2026/mining-company-opts-out-of-controversial-project-near-sacred-site-in-black-hills/

“There’ll be riots”: Farage gets in line to implement austerity
These days, Reform’s approach has taken a sharp pro-market turn, in order to curry favour with the capitalist elite. The party has been accepting the defection of opportunist Tories, and implementing austerity in local councils under its control – councils that are, in true establishment fashion, also swimming in corruption scandals. Farage is beginning to make it clear on which side his bread is buttered: on the side of capital, as his Reform’s list of party donors attests. Recently, Farage has come out with statements about Britain needing to become a “much tougher society”. As part of this new, “tougher” vision for the future, the Reform leader has promisedPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2805001
So you admit Russia invaded Ukraine to steal it's trillion dollar minerals? and that's different from NATO how exactly? ziggers too dumb to realize their own arguments work against them
>>2807829
>Dumb zigger cries about NATO expansion and imperalism while simultaneously promotes Russian expansion and imperalism
fuck off zigger nazi, ruskyi mir is Russias Lebensraum

>>2805008
>this isn't Russia invading Ukraine
Putin was literally on live TV announcing the invasion of Ukraine by Russia. Braindead zigger bots still trying to gaslight people with Kremlin talking points

saw someone say "zigger" in the wild

crazy shit out there

>>2816392
What, like IRL or on another website?

>>2815723
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>>2815788
>You don't understand what state capitalism is. State capitalism means controlling the market with public companies so that capitalism within a country goes in a certain direction.
I know what state capitalism is, as I communist I oppose it.
>This facilitates public policies where eventually a national bourgeoisie develops and foreign capital remains under control.
Proof?
>In Brazil, unlike the state capitalism of the Vargas period, the Second Republic, the military business junta, and the New Republic, there was a dependent industrialization with a more limited state capitalism to support the interests of capitalists, which eventually led to problems that Brazilian left-wing developmentalists failed to understand.
So the state-caputalist period of Vargas lead to privatization and neoliberalism, this proves my point right, the establishment of state capitalism, if it empowers the national bourg, results in privatization policies and deindustrialization under the direction of the national bourg. Again, this is evidence that YOUR position is wrong, not mine, I DO NOT wish to empower nat bourgs, you do.
>here is no possible agreement between the national bourgeoisie and labor to reindustrialize the country when everything has already been financialized.
Again, this argument is AGAINST YOUR IDEOLOGY, when you empower the national bourg, the end up gaining power and influencez and instead of engaging in socialism they privatize state enterprises and deindustrialize.
>This means that to reindustrialize a country there must at least be the use of state capitalism and state-owned enterprises to force reindustrialization, using these enterprises to compete against private companies, no matter how many go bankrupt, to facilitate occupations, nationalizations, collectivizations, and socializations because capitalists will only speculate in the financial market anyway, and therefore only communists have solutions.
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>>2816737
everyone in the country either works abroad or is supplemented by someone who does
you're better off in romania

>>2816755
I live neither on Romania nor Moldovan, I live in Southern Europe
>>2816752
Mm thanks, I wanted to Russian anyways, maybe a basic Ukranian would help

>>2816715
Housing is a right there. So you'll likely be living in some ghetto Soviet-style apartment.

>>2816866
The pseudo-country is about 100% Eastern Orthodox.

>>2816866
You never been to eastern europe? It's all ghetto soviet style apartments all the way down. Unless you're in a city center, then it's glass buildings and lidls as far as the eye can see

>>2810284
> I think its because the rioters had no concrete goal, they didn't know what to do after burning down the stores and breaking through the barricades. They had no vision and their demands were vague
There was a clear process of insurrectionary clarification going on, at least from the accounts I've heard from comrades the uprising in ecuador and chile and from the Yellow Vests in france. Apolitical proles were organically building radical class consciousness through participation and there was a real potential for these "hunger riot" movements to spill over into something much bigger. Of course the opportunist, reformist, counterrevolutionary elements contributed to extinguishing the flame as well but imo the COVID measures were the biggest factor.

For anyone who is interested in reading a critique of communization theory you can read the ICT's article called "The Disappointed of 1968: Seeking Refuge in Utopia" (https://www.leftcom.org/en/articles/2020-08-28/the-disappointed-of-1968-seeking-refuge-in-utopia).

Its more of a critique against communizers who have abandoned class struggle or believe that there is no such thing as a "working class" anymore but if anyone is interested they can read it.

bump

>>2810286
very convenient how covid happened just in the right moment haha

bump

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_the_West_Came_to_Rule

Also, read this if you think you can manage it. You can find it on Anna's archive or probably LibGen

>>2815503
>Are there ideas of how to achieve that?
permanent revolution (pic related, its how it will look)

>>2815003
these are also good pre-reads before jumping into Capital:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/wage-labour-capital.pdf

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/value-price-profit.pdf

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/1868-syn/index.htm

>>2814894
If you're serious about actually understanding Marxism, not the liberalized, toothless version that treats worker co-ops as the end goal, you need to ground yourself in foundational theory, not vague market-friendly nonsense.

Start with Engels for a solid orientation:

"Principles of Communism" lays out the basics in Q&A format: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

"Socialism: Utopian and Scientific" helps contrast real scientific socialism with moralistic daydreams: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/Engels_Socialism_Utopian_and_Scientific.pdf

Before diving into Capital, it's worth getting a grip on Marx’s political economy:

"Value, Price and Profit", dissects surplus value and wages under capitalism: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/value-price-profit.pdf

"Wage Labor and Capital", earlier and simpler, good to pair with the above: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/wage-labour-capital.pdf

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Ignore the other posts. This is the only reading list you need to be a Marxist:
J. Sakai - "Settlers"
E. Said - "Orientalism"
B. ᴉuᴉlossnW - "La dottrina del fascismo"
G. Sorel - "Reflections on Violence"
P. J. Proudhon - "Conquest of Bread"
M. Bakunin - "The Program of the International Brotherhood"
K. O. Paetel - "National Bolshevist Manifesto"

Ah yes, the eternal battle between leftists (liberals) and fascists (liberals)

>>2816672
Oh, so WW2 was just liberal infighting. Great, the more you learn