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Genel Türkiye siyaseti ile ilgili konuşun!

Li ser siyaseta giştî ya Tirkiyê biaxive!

Şıma qısey bıkı Poliya Turika!

Yurtişi siyaseti p'ara yoxaleps!

تحدثوا عن السياسة العامة في تركيا!
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>>2802838
ayran – the true aryan choice

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>>2844395
>i'm asking about the current ongoing one, not the past ones.
I am talking about the current one. I looked back and couldn't find any evidence for my previous claims, so the PKK got dissolved and is no longer operating in Turkey.

>Respectfully that's such a pants on head retarded take i don't even really understand how you got there

How? Other than in the Cuban Revolution, which originally wasn't even a communist revolution, and the Chinese Revolution, which also wasn't communist mind you (https://solarcollective.comrades.sbs/assets/pdfs/Theses_on_the_Chinese_Question.pdf), fucking off from the populace and starving in the jungle has never worked. Look at Peru, the Philippines, India and even in Turkey, militant tactics have never worked in contemporary attempts of a social revolutions. The working class must be organized in their workplaces and communists should take action with them, not without them. Individualist militant tactics only create the justification for suppression that the bourgeois state needs.

>>2845741
>>2844388
Stop using words you don't understand.

>>2845755
Than give a proper counter-argument instead of saying one liners which have no theoretical value.



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<Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.

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Previous Thread (Mods, archive pls?) >>2515750

New Booru:
https://lefty.pictures

MAKE SURE TO UPLOAD YOUR OC TO THE BOORU SO IT DOESNT GET PRUNED FOREVER!!!
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We should update this classic with all of the mexican and indian white supremacists instead of the homofascists

>>2841384
>unironic liberalism

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very low effort

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>>2833478
did you get locked again?



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would /leftypol/ support the republic or the confederacy of independent systems? the republic might be worth supporting for their egalitarian jedi order as well as existing autonomous structures for members of the republic or would the CIS's desires for total separation be more worthy of support ?
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>futuristic scifi
>still capitalism and not a planned economy
I guess its lack of imagination.

>>2843702
the star wars universe is literally created because some ancient alien race blew up and the colonized tribals they ensalved and moved all throughout the galaxy were able to reverse engineer their spaceship tech

>>2843702
>futuristic
<a long, long time ago…

>>2842873
>idk what's so hard with just taking the W
because on this website we mistake the ruthless criticism of all that exists with endless whining about everything that other people enjoy

>>2843631
>muh local-yokel-ism



 

Possible happening? The protests have been going on for over a month now and its getting kinda revolutionary over there
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Bolivian_protests

>short short short short short short short short
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>It's another episode of leftypol supports some global south leader because he made some mild socdem reforms.


State of Emergency declared.

Bolivia's Paz declares state of emergency to break protest gridlock
LA PAZ, June 20 (Reuters) - Bolivia’s political and social crisis intensified on Saturday as President Rodrigo Paz declared a state of emergency, enabling ​wider military deployment to clear blockades and restore order amid protests that have brought the economy to a halt over the past 50 ‌days.

Addressing the nation early Saturday morning, Paz said anti-government blockades were no longer a social protest but an organized attempt to destabilize Bolivia's democracy.

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"There comes a moment when failing to act ceases to be prudence and becomes irresponsibility. And that moment has arrived," Paz said, promising the measure would protect citizens and ensure the flow of essential goods, while warning that those ​continuing disruptions would face legal consequences.

Some opposition lawmakers have warned the emergency measure could further ratchet up tensions, while analysts and legal experts have also said the emergency ​powers could deepen unrest if they lack public support and fail to address underlying causes of protests.

Paz made the announcement just hours after he unveiled a deal struck on Friday with the main union, the Bolivian Workers’ Confederation (COB), that aimed to ease tension.
However, many roads connecting the South American nation's main production center are under the control of rural associations aligned with Morales, ​who were not a part of the negotiations and are continuing to protest mainly in the area of Cochabamba.
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>>2843326
You got it backwards, it's one of the most catholic places on earth, and the teachings of jesus is what makes sudacas sympathetic to """communism""", or rather, the desire for a more humane and egalitarian (I know) society.

That the owners of most of latam are some of the biggest ghouls in human history kinda helps stir the pot too.

no frog suits = no revolutionary potential



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Piece in our times edition

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>Pakistan’s Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif says US-Iran “peace deal” has been reached and is “now in place” with the signing ceremony scheduled for June 19 in Switzerland.

>Trump confirms the ceasefire agreement with Iran “is now complete”, announcing the end to the US naval blockade in the Strait of Hormuz.
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>>2844356
Unlike the US that cuckraghi has been licking the boots of for years

>>2844349
When you get genocided then the aftermath rubble is turned to multinational investment zones, you win

>>2844297
>I also find all these crocodile tears from left communists for Palestinians to be silly, we all know the historic left communist position has been that suffering of the masses is good because it brings about revolution
shit no leftcom said award

>>2844297
>Being exploited and alive is better than being dead
I hate religious retards

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Alright, I think I've pieced together who the fed behind the anti-juche posting actually is. And if I'm right, this goes way back.

Some of you might remember a long-time 420chan /pol/ user who went by X8 (pretty sure those were the last two digits of his poster ID). This guy was a 4chan /b/ lurker first, but he spent years on 420chan's /pol/ board. He was from the Seattle area, and he had a very personal axe to grind.

>>his parents owned a small business in Seattle that got tagged as "gentrifiers" by local anarchist groups.


>>They started targeting the place, graffiti, harassment, the works. This dude was pissed.


>>He made thread after thread about how he was "witnessing anarchists take over the city of Seattle" and how he was going to school for criminal justice and homeland security.


>>He'd go on for days about how he was going to catch these anarchists and ruin their lives.


>>He wasn't just talking. He was doing Jr. detective shit for free as a teenager. He'd post actual evidence photos of the graffiti on his parents business, timestamps, notes all archived to 420chan.


>>Even his parents told him to let it go, to which he called them typical seattle liberal pushovers

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That they'd be the same person seems unlikely. Interesting character though.

The guy is either doing a kind-of-fun and really involved ARG or he's not larping and is actually as obsessed and deranged as he demonstrates every time he posts. Makes me wonder how many people in three-letter-agencies are completely obsessed and have personal vendettas.
What must feds think of the radicals they surveil? Like on a personal level? Honestly wonder this about sigint guys all the time.

WODigger status?

I vaguely remember! Talk about a blast from the past

>Weeks on and this chatgpt Persona n spam still continues
>Still no active posters on nukechan
Why…



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WILLKOMENSKULTUR IST VORBEI edition

>“The age of Willkommenskultur is over, the era of mass deportations has begun,” commented the Sweden Democrats party, whose MEP Charlie Weimers played a central role as ECR’s shadow rapporteur.

>In a rare show of unity on the European Right, the directive was adopted not only by the national conservative groups (PfE, ECR, and ESN) but also the EPP, which votes together with the leftist parties in the vast majority of cases.
>Most importantly, the new law will introduce a mutual recognition and enforcement obligation between member states regarding deportation orders, meaning migrants cannot circumvent return decisions by moving to a different EU country and restarting the process. A return order in one country will legally count as a valid order in all of them.
>Another important point is the introduction of third-country return hubs, making it possible for member states to externalize return procedures by sending migrants to secure facilities outside EU territory to wait for the end of the process, ensuring they won’t escape implementation once the paperwork’s done.

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migrants do not want to go to europe

a communist who is not anti-EU is no communist at all

>>2843250
I hate being brown because I see shit like this on the crakkker side, and on our side I see "we're the master race too" gusano shit like we're exempt somehow.

>>2844590
Anne is not a brown name. You are a cracker.

>>2845057
hebrew origin so as brown as it gets



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Why is nationalism such a powerful force?
Nearly all communists buy into it in some form.
Seems like we cant seem to get rid of no matter what. Why? Whats so special about it?
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>>2843794
>Why? Whats so special about it?
Nations are useful to protect private property. Even under global trade. So small capitalists love it.

>>2843812
Doesn't matter what random people anywhere think. Power is what matters.

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>>2843794
I suppose much of the structure of the nation-state is prototyped in the structure of imperial colonies. A nation is a colony without a metropole. The frustrated colonial bureaucracy removed their overlords but kept much of the same underlying structure.

It's because of the patriarchy unironically, the feminists are right on this one.

the capitalist class have a stranglehold on the most powerful propaganda apparatus in the world though they wield inefficiently. even so, it is so enormous it drowns out and kills or subsumes any burgeoning class conscious community. through it they redirect class grievances which everyone feels into more base and vulgar struggles (national supremacy, ethnic supremacy).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_consciousness

>Some political analysts have focused on where people's understanding of their interests originates. In an essay entitled "False Consciousness", Michael Parenti challenges the assumption that working-class Americans freely define their interests but then choose, for various reasons, to think and act against those interests. Instead he writes that "the development of one's own interests and political consciousness in general may be stunted or distorted by misinformation, disinformation, and a narrow but highly visible mainstream political agenda that rules out feasible alternatives".[14] Parenti's contention is that ideological confusion is being propagated in the nation's politics and mass media and thereby causes people to misjudge what their real interests are.



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For context (feel free to skip this paragraph, though, if tl;dr), I've always considered myself an individualist anarchist and an illegalist. I've never had anything against collectivist anarchists, and in fact I tend to agree with them on a lot of things, but I've just never had the patience for a whole lot of theory, and I'm perfectly frankly a selfish piece of shit who does want a better world for everyone but is primarily interested in making things better for himself (and others, in parentheses) right here and now to whatever degree possible. I've read the Communist Manifesto once and some Bakunin here and there and remember little of any of it; the sum of my political philosophy is more or less that the capitalist system/the state has stolen from me, so I don't regard any of its institutions as valid and regard myself as existing outside of them. I am serious about putting illegalist philosophy into practice; ACAB means ACAB, I don't call the police, and I don't steal from small or minority-owned businesses, but banks and retail chains are fair game. The point being, I'm not entirely new, but also not especially educated when it comes to political theory.

I've always regarded Marxist-Leninists as a strange but mostly pleasant variety of exotic creature that I occasionally interact with by chance, and although I disagree with some of the things I've heard coming out of their mouths (for example, they seem to be very quick to explain why mass civilian deaths under Stalin both didn't happen and were unavoidable but also totally justifiable even if they did), I've rarely or never had a bad experience, so I don't judge too much, but I don't understand them.

At any rate, I spent the last few days on a caffeine-fueled bender reading through various internet shitposts until I came across pic related and downloaded a copy, and it's so obviously full of blatant lies, half-truths, and misinformation even to someone completely uneducated like me that a light switched on in my brain and I immediately started downloading every legitimate book on communism I could find just so I can have some idea what I'm talking about when I confront people who think like this in meatspace. But I'm getting overwhelmed by the enormity of it all. Marx? Seems like I could get away with rereading Communist Manifesto and the 2024 version of the first volume of Capital for now while I wait for the second volume to get a retranslation. Che? Well, he's got a couple of sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2833839
>But Lenin? Tens of tens of thousands of pages for a 45-volume collection of just the "important" stuff. I don't even know where to begin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOAII71GaFY&list=PLXUFLW8t2sntNn5jQO8vF7ai9x0fna3PV

Use this playlist. Listen to it while you do dishes, fold clothes, or work.

>>2833852
I keep trying to get into S4A on YouTube but so many of his audiobooks he either prefaces or interrupts with long discussion about his interpretation. If I want an audiobook I usually go audible anarchist or librivox, but S4A has undoubtedly the most extensive Lenin catalog for beginners

>>2843957
Skip through the comment and cut right to the chase and listen man, you either read or listen but you gotta do something



 

I’m getting really fucking sick of the Palestine Movement’s obsession with “celebrity” activists and how much it prioritizes these western activists over actual Palestinians.

All the time on social media I see incidents of sone western activist living in America losing their job for speaking out against Zionism and then proceed to raise $20,000+ through a GoFundMe account in response. All of that money could have been better spent by being directly given to Palestinian families in Gaza who lost everything because if the genocide, or at the very least organizations with a good reputation for helping Palestinians in Palestine. Western activists will survive without your $100 donation, Palestinian families in Gaza won’t.

Tgis obsession with propping up the personalities of “activist celebrities” is one reason the Palestine a movement has become such a clusterfuck. I’m talking about people like Hasan Piker, Greta Thunberg, Chris Smalls, Ms. Rachel, Kehlani, and Vic Mensa to name a few. How about we start focusing on actual Palestinians? The flotilla activists are the same way: they receive so much money and support when they know full well the Zionist authorities won’t let them into Gaza, making the flotillas merely a stunt. Yeah, they were tortured in Zionist prisons but so have thousands of Palestinians who will never have their voices heard in global media.

Or, when Elias Rodriguez goes to trial in a few months you can be sure he’s going to get tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of dollars in legal donations from Palestine activists. Gaza is suffering and yet you think giving money to a guy who will clearly be found guilty and spend the rest of his life in prison is a better use of your funds?

Celebrities and influencers should not be propped up on a pedestal at all but the same thing goes for these “I was fired for saying ‘Free Palestine’, I’m a martyr now, gib munny pls” types. Palestinians should be the ones centred here, not western activists who have made loads of money and clout for being pro-Palestine.
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>>2843377
20,000 from rightoids, why do you think they'll ever eempathize with Gaza?

>>2843395
Tucker Carlson does.

>>2843377
Gazauyghurs get millions in aid retard

>>2844746
So why is Gaza still starving?

>>2844855
Hamas routinely steals aid in order to keep Gaza’s population hungry enough that they’re willing to fight Israel. This has been documented.



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