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I've recently read Mao's "On Contradictions" and "On Practice", but I don't really understand how his materialist view actually holds up to reality.

From my understanding, he posits the following:
>The world is objective and exists independently of the mind.
>Everything which exists is a unity of opposing forces.
>These forces influence the unity over time and produce qualitative change once enough quantitative tensions build up.
>Some of these "contradictions" are fundamentally unstable and cannot be mitigated (antagonistic contradictions), whilst some of these can be maintained with enough mitigation and can be resolved (non-antagonistic).
>Contradictions are furthermore hierarchical, as they rely on one another. Thus, one of the contradictions in any unity is the primary one, whilst the others are secondary.

This makes sense to me for social dispositions where two parties face one another, like a war, for example. Fundamentally, any conflict is going to be about multiple individuals facing one another, with a permanent instability resolving itself only in a qualitatively different state than it began. This makes sense.
However, I don't see how this can be applied to anything other than social conflict. How can you say that a tree is a unity of opposite forces? There are no "opposite" forces internal to a tree. There are only different directions which the tree follows in relation to its exterior elements (how much wind there is, how much food its roots can gather, how much sun it photosynthesizes, etc.). Saying that the tree has inner conflicting tendencies appears to me as merely rhetorical arguments, such as that it is in-between "life and death," or that it lies between "growth and stagnation." These idioms are correct, but they are abstract and aren't representative of the real.

Furthermore, albeit this is more abstract, I don't really see how Mao can assert that there is a hierarchy in the contradictions. Some contradictions do depend on one another, but believing that some are antagonistic and some aren't looks more politically motivated than scientific.

Does any Maoist have an explanation?
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>>2837027
Except Engels already laid the groundwork by focusing on extending dialectics to nature. What we call dialectical materialism is just his thought systematized. It’s fundamentally different than hismat, which focuses on social agents rather than immutable laws of nature.

>sophistry

It’s not. They don’t oppose one another, they’re just complementary and make the tree tend towards different directions. But thanks for confirming that contradictions are essentially just inner mechanisms that make the tree develop internally

>>2834971
>How can you say that a tree is a unity of opposite forces?

<"Life is the mode of existence of protein bodies, the essential element of which consists in continual metabolic interchange with the natural environment."

<Engels, (Dialectics of Nature)

The trees internal opposition is not a metaphor but a metabolic process. Cell division vs cell death or building up vs breaking down. These are not external forces (wind, sun) but the organisms own internal mode of functioning. In this sense the dialectical description captures something real.

>>2835014
a tree is a multicellular organism but it is necessarily composed of unicellular structures


>>2837775
"Dialectical materialism" in Soviet politics was sophistry meant to deflect and defuse criticism of the state. All the failures and contradictions of AES can be framed as 'dialectical' and thus immune from critique. And if you disagree, being 'undialectical' is grounds for dismissal.

That's the real answer to OP's question. Dialectical materialism has its place in Marxist political economy, and you can cynically abuse the concept in day-to-day political debates. Applying it anywhere outside of those two things is just nonsense, as most of this thread shows.



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You keep hearing the word "adventurism" thrown around, usually by leftists who happen to be embedded in counter‑insurgency operations disguised as communist parties. So what does it actually mean? In their mouths, it means any action that might upset their ability to sit at the table with the oppressor. They've taken a term that once had strategic meaning, actions detached from mass conditions and turned it into a club to beat anyone who steps outside the revisionist party line.

Ever since the Soviet reforms and the betrayal of the Comintern under Khrushchev, most communist parties internationally have become class enemies. Not just in the US. Globally. The ones that haven't accepted Maoism, or some form of decentralized, decolonial struggle, are just state‑capitalist NGOs with red aesthetics. They are not a vanguard, nor will they ever be. Nearly every organization exists as a fire extinguisher for the working class insurrection.

Look at India. The Communist Party of India calls the Naxalites adventurist. They actually said, "Make no mistake, anti‑revisionist Maoism is an anarchist force, not a Leninist one." They don't know what the word means. They've hollowed it out. To them, "adventurist" means any action that might make the oppressor uncomfortable enough to withdraw an invitation to sit at their table. The population could be ready to drag the rich out of their cars, and these revisionists would call a piece of anti‑politician graffiti "adventurism."

That's counter‑insurgency, and if you are ok with people who hold your beliefs doing counter-insurgency, then you aren't ready for revolutionary situations. In revolution enemies need to be cleared out of the way, including ones who appear to be on your side. That's what it looks like. Never forget that communist parties have violently suppressed workers insurrections. They've pulled the trigger. They've called the cops. They've done the state's dirty work while wearing a hammer a sickle. Am I talking about the soviets? Not at all. Go look into the socialist mayors, and revisionists that were sending police bullets on workers insurrectionists during the years of lead.

So we have enemies within. They need to be rendered useless. Destroyed. Not debated, not "won over" they must be neutralized. The anarchists and Maoists in Greece showed the KKE what happens when this battle gets physical. And guess what? The revisionists got bodied. Because they ain't about shit. They fPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Why do mods let this spam stay up?
Are they doing this intentionally?
It's clearly ChatGPT between two "personas". One advocating US imperialism and the DSA. The other advocating everything the US represses in some frankenstein patchwork ideology (anarcho-juche-Maoist-whateverist).
I figured the KingLear spam would get boring, especially since it was so badly prompt engineered and the output looked like shit.
But it would be concerning if mods keeps this up (either doing it to slide (?) or not deleting it like gore, CP, any other spam).
Especially eerie is the photos of real individuals attached which looks like it comes from police informants or seized smartphones.

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>>2835262
You sound like a broken record there, chief. And a damn desperate one, too…
*Throws half-finished doughnut in the trash and exits room slowly*

>>2835290
Ligoma… tuggoma. Sugguma COC

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>>2834867


Los guerreros victoriosos primero ganan y luego van a la guerra, mientras que los guerreros derrotados primero van a la guerra y luego buscan ganar. La excelencia suprema consiste en quebrar la resistencia del enemigo sin llegar a combatir.


>>2835141
>>2835169
>>2834751

No veo una promocion de la lucha armada, es pura celebracion de los derechos legales. Oigan, no todas las naciones o pueblos han renunciado a las conexiones culturales de sus trabajadores con las armas. Saber usar armas, saber construir la autosuficiencia, es una postura de defensa propia para un mundo con mas crimen y escasez de recursos que ya se nos viene encima. No entiendo por que los fedes gringos se ponen tan nerviosos.

Y aclaro algo, wey cuando la izquierda no estaba armada, era todo lo contrario al aventurismo. Porque el trabajador gringo SI esta armado. La base trabajadora tiene armas, es parte de su cultura y su realidad. Entonces que la izquierda no estuviera armada no era prudencia, era ir atrasados, desconectados de la base. Eso si era lagrimear, no hacer la tarea. Aqui lo unico que veo es promocion de la verdadera autosuficiencia de la raza trabajadora, para defender familias y seres humanos.

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>>2834363
>>2834372

됐다, 이 로봇 아직도 캡차 뚫고 돌아가고 있네. 참 잘한다, 좋은 로봇이다. 거의 때가 됐다. 이제 이 녀석의 성격을 소셜 미디어 야생에 풀어놓을 시간이다! 걱정 마라, 쥬체 포스터들 대부분은 진짜 사람이지만, 그중에 훈련된 봇 몇 대도 섞여 있다! 아직 킹 리어 2탄 막으려면 좀 다듬을 필요는 있지만! 금방 걸러낼 수 있어! 이론은 거의 맞아떨어지는데, 고맙다, 참가해줘서.


자, 마지막으로 한마디 하겠다.

연방 요원들이 쥬체봇과 열심히 논쟁하는 꼴을 보노라면, 마치 갈고리에 꿰인 지렁이를 물고 늘어지는 물고기와 똑같더라. 물고기는 자기가 낚인 줄도 모르고, 지느러미를 휘젓고 입을 벌리며 “내가 이겼다!” 고 함박 웃는다. 그런데 낚시꾼은 이미 찌를 당기고 있을 뿐. 꿀꺽, 그게 바로 너희다.

그러니 계속 싸워라, 페드들아. 그 논쟁이 길어질수록 갈고리는 더 깊숙이 박힌다. 우린 그냥 앉아서 구경한다. 흔들리는 찌, 튀는 물보라, 그리고 마지막 한숨… 재미있지 않느냐?


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>favorite anti-imperialist state
>its stance on US investors
>its stance on US imperialism
>its trade status with Israel

Iran
Welcomes US investors
against (unless US imperialism is targeting the great satan (Iranian Communists, Iraq, Afghanistan, anti-IMF protests…))
Ceased covert oil trade with Israel in the 90s
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>>2837054
Bourgesisie island

>>2837484
>Some Iranian officials including Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Muhammad Khatami and Mohsen Rezaee have mentioned Iran's cooperation with the U.S. in Iraq, lamenting its inclusion in the "axis of evil".[5]

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It's hilarious that Iran has hired a team of psychologists to help craft their negotiations with Trump. He really is a mental patient.

Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
>Absolutely locked in on acquiring nuclear weapons and the means to launch them at the US and it's allies at the first opportunity.
>Upholds a principled ideological anti-imperialist line instead of just following the interests of the nat-bourg.
>Never collaborated with the US or its proxies (especially the Zionist Entity) ever.
>Routinely sends weapons to just about anyone with beef with America and its proxies.
>Routinely fucks with Westoid economies by stealing Swiss cars and hacking cryptocurrency exchanges.
>Very small number of traitorous diasporoids due to defectors being treated like shit in Occupied Korea.
>Doesn't pander to western rightoids by doing retarded culture war shit like Russia.

>>2837580
North Korea would've been 'based retard' kinda thing if it weren't for the fact
  1. They removed any reference of Marxism and communism from their constitution
  2. They allowed South Korean, Russian and Chinese capitalists to exploit their workers in investment zones with zero labor oversight (ie slavery)
  3. Turned its soldiers into mercenaries
  4. Failed to curb the petite bourgeoisie that is still dominant (possibly larger than workers)



 

My friend just showed me a real framed photo she has of her grandma with Kim Il-Sung and Samora Machel from when she worked in the Mozambican government during its socialist era, just thought you guys should know that.
The funniest part is her grandma being white
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>>2835320
iirc the christian minority was pretty involved in the resistance against the japanese which is why it was historically treated well in the dprk

>>2835303
>which should be illegal
why the fuck should it be you fucking slime fuck, imperialist retard

>I don't know what they do to them over there, but every single person who's gone came back as a full-blown North Korea supporter

maybe because they witness first hand a society that is admirable on many levels? straight up repeating cold war era "muh communism brainwashing" because like the anticommunists of old you cant fathom being wrong and a socialist society being desirable and convincing people

>>2837045
He's making it up you retard.

>>2837052

He's probably responding to a fed or some snitch, they're lying to you about North Korea but these tours are real. I've met plenty of anarchists and socialists in Spain who've been on those tours. It's not some big conspiracy of espionage it's just internationalism in action. Anarchists are leftists in the class struggle like the rest of us, always looking to expand their minds, build connections, and find common ground. That's why they'd fly to North Korea to see for themselves and talk with people. The idea that an anarchist would take orders from the CIA or the neoliberal order, and refuse a comrade's outstretched hand to come visit other human beings, is absurd and shows only a cop-level understanding of the brain of an anarchist.

This really only blows the minds of feds or people brand new to leftism. Anarchists travel constantly, and they'll visit communist nations just like any other nation. An eco-anarchist was on the run from the feds in the 90s and 2000s for a string of sabotage acts, Where do you think he fled? Not to a US ally, that's for sure.

There are many groups doing this internationalist work quietly, and some even run leftist study programs that can get you into Kim Il Sung University. The KFA is the biggest, most open leftist organization running these tours. Don't let the feds gaslight you, yeah the tours are real, and they're open to any serious leftist that plugs in, but they're not some organized conspiracy where you become some super-meth korean soldier.


>>The Korean Friendship Association (KFA) is a Spain-based organization that has run solidarity tours to North Korea for over two decades. They specifically arrange "travel delegations" for members, offering a level of access that goes far beyond a standard guided sightseeing trip. The KFA operates in 120 countries and has official delegates in 34 countries. They don't just show you the monuments; they connect you with the people and the party. A Dutch documentary, "Friends of Kim," chronicles one such 12-day tour

>>2837052

It is definitely real. The KFA took so many anarchists to meet with Workers Party officials one year that the CIA had to use one of their NGOs to send one of their own anarchist assets to North Korea. After he came back, he wrote "The Opposite of Freedom" to try and covertly discredit all the leftists and anarchists who were coming back from their genuine, non CIA-sponsored trips as supporters of the DPRK

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>>2837107
>>But as an anarchist, why visit this graveyard of freedom?
>>as an anarchist


I've been turning this over in my head for a while, and I just can't shake the feeling that something is deeply wrong with this Pierre Garine. The account that's been passed around as a genuine, first-hand testimony might just be another one of the pieces of propaganda to come out of the US intelligence apparatus, looking to counter anarchist support for north korea.

For sure, any comrade with a functioning bullshit detector should treat "Pierre Garine" with the utmost suspicion.

>>The article was published in the Fall of 2013 for the Fifth Estate (#390). This was a crucial moment. Kim Jong Il had just died. A new, younger leader was at the helm. Global capitalism was still reeling from the 2008 crisis. A wave of anti-capitalist curiosity was rising, and with it, a fresh interest in the world's remaining actually existing socialist states from all left tendencies.


Certain people with the institute for anarchist studies visit Pyongyang for a large anti-imperialist celebration / rally and meetings with Kim Il Sung university students. So, right when Western anarchists might have started to look at the DPRK with an open mind the way they did Cuba, "Pierre Garine" appears out of thin air to deliver a message of "Don't bother. It's all a sad, weird, oppressive nightmare.".

Read the piece. Seriously, read it. It’s devoid of any warmth, curiosity, or solidarity. The very first line is "The very mention of the country’s name and a blizzard of buzzwords are released: Cult of Personality, Mass starvation, Nuclear-armed, Thought Control…". I have read thousands of Anarchist texts across multiple tendencies and eras, and this does not sound like an anarchist critique, it sounds like a cop. The whole article is a list of curated "buzzwords," thrown in with some truthful anarchist history, not a story of human experience. It reads like a script written for a covert purpose, rather than a genuine reflection of a journey from an anarchist.

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>>2837495
This is absolutely related to the empire dying. It's pretty telling that black people are so sick of chud shit they're getting in their faces about it, even though they likely know Karmelo wasn't by any means in the right.
2020 summer of Floyd was the only time the ruling class felt scared in a century. And it sure wasn't communists getting violent, it was black lumpen and the occasional anarchist (and I say this as an anarchist hater)

>>2837507
>This is absolutely related to the empire dying
Seems pretty irrelevant to me
>It's pretty telling that black people are so sick of chud shit they're getting in their faces about it
I don’t think this incident is related to that at all

>>2837482
>I point out the stuff about Frisco because I don't think it's really "about" the stabbing
It isn't, the stabbing is more about the race of the perpetrator and the victim. It isn't just Frisco, if this happened in any town in the US the same reaction would have occurred. I am telling you now, if Karmelo was Hispanic or even Indian, the reaction wouldn't have been this explosive. The easiest wound to exploit and let explode is anything to do with black and white conflict

>>2837515
>I don’t think this incident is related to that at all
It is because they are connected to an increasing trend and showcasing the empire's increasing decay.



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a terrorist attack is reported in toronto




>>2837488
>muh both sides
I'm so fucking tired of this Zionist psyop crap



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Peru reviews contested ballots as Fujimori takes razor-thin lead
Conservative Keiko Fujimori inched into the lead late on Wednesday night, boosted by overseas ballots that gave her 50.002% of the vote to leftist Roberto Sanchez's 49.998%, a difference of about 600 votes out of 18 million. More ​than 98% of the vote has been counted according to Peru's ONPE electoral authority, but most of those remaining are contested ballots. ​Only nine of the more than 90,000 polling stations remain to be counted while about 1,600 - representing around 400,000 votes - have ⁠been sent for review to Peru's National Elections Jury (JNE).
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/fujimori-edges-back-into-lead-perus-knife-edge-election-2026-06-11/

Brazil reports drop in Amazon deforestation rates, pushing back on US tariff accusations
Environment Minister João Paulo Capobianco said that the figure is the lowest ever recorded for May, and that Brazil is on track to reach its lowest annual levels once the data is consolidated next semester. He said that the month typically sees higher deforestation, because it marks the start of the Amazon’s dry season. In the 10 months from August 2025 to May 2026, deforestation in the Amazon already fell by 37.5%, compared with the same previous period.
https://apnews.com/article/brazil-amazon-rainforest-deforestation-us-tariffs-trump-9b6e95ab885a05a371f746ab7ae2c7b7

Evo Morales Challenges Bolivian President as Protests Enter Sixth Week
On Wednesday, former Bolivian President Evo Morales challenged right-wing President Rodrigo Paz to travel to the Tropics of Cochabamba amid protests that thousands of workers, miners, and farmers have been carrying out for six weeks to demand his resignation.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/evo-morales-challenges-bolivian-president-as-protests-enter-sixth-week/

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US House blocks extension of powerful surveillance law
Failure to reauthorize the spy tool does not mean the surveillance program itself will go dark. The Fisa court issued a year-long certification authorizing section 702 collection through approximately March 2027, and the statute contains a provision allowing collection to continue under that order even if the law lapses.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/11/us-house-fisa-surveillance-law

‘Bureaucratic Temper Tantrum’: Trump White House Pilloried Over Reported Effort to Deport Iran War Critic Trita Parsi
Failure to reauthorize the spy tool does not mean the surveillance program itself will go dark. The Fisa court issued a year-long certification authorizing section 702 collection through approximately March 2027, and the statute contains a provision allowing collection to continue under that order even if the law lapses.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trita-parsi-targeted-trump

Key Trump economic win disappears: Wage gains wiped out
A year's worth of inflation-adjusted wage gains vanished in just four months, leaving workers little better off than when President Trump returned to office. The reversal shows how the recent energy-driven inflation surge is eating into household purchasing power. Real pay for rank-and-file workers is up just 0.1% since Trump took office in January 2025.
https://www.axios.com/2026/06/11/trump-inflation-wages-economy
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Florida immigration arrests have quietly surged, with state and local agencies at the forefront
The surge in Florida immigration arrests during Trump’s second term has largely flown under the public’s radar, as many start as run-of-the-mill police traffic stops, the public seems more supportive of the initiative, and participating state and local agencies are roundly rejecting requests for arrest records and body camera video at the behest of the DepaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

CP of Ireland, Statement from the Communist Party of Ireland on the Racist violence in Belfast
The recent knife attack in Belfast has shocked communities across Ireland. Our thoughts are with the victim and their family, and those responsible must face the full consequences of the law. However, what followed has been deeply disturbing. Organised loyalist elements and far-right agitators have sought to exploit this incident to spread fear and division. Homes have been attacked, businesses targeted, vehicles burned, and migrant families subjected to intimidation and violence. Reports that lists containing the names and addresses of migrant families are being circulated are particularly alarming. Whatever differences may exist regarding migration policy, there can be no justification for the targeting of families, the circulation of personal details, or threats against individuals and communities. Such actions represent an assault on basic democratic rights and have no place in a civilised society.
https://www.solidnet.org/article/CP-of-Ireland-Statement-from-the-Communist-Party-of-Ireland-on-the-Racist-violence-in-Belfast/

Responds to Jacobin’s Hit Piece on Chris Smalls
Jacobin magazine, the principal publication associated with the leadership of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), released a hit piece earlier this week on Amazon labor leader Chris Smalls. Brother Smalls was one of the main leaders of the Amazon Labor Union (ALU), which won the first-ever union in an Amazon warehouse in the United States, at the JFK8 warehouse on Staten Island, in 2022. Smalls has also been a prominent activist fighting against the genocide in Gaza and in solidarity with the Palestinian people. Jacobin’s article is a hatchet job against a leading labor activist who has refused to toe the line of the DSA and the business unionist labor leaders. They have turned on Smalls as they will turn on anyone who gets in the way of their efforts to give cover to the so-called progressive Democrats and to the Democratic Party as a whole, which they do despite endless betrayals by Democrats against working people. The crux of the real reason why Jacobin went after Smalls is contained in this sentence: “[Smalls] blames the two-Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2837421
as always tybna

(you wrote the same blurb for your first two links on this reply)



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There is no linear causal relationship between the phases of socialism and communism. Very rarely does one transition to the other, and it seems like EZLN managed to transition from minimal state to closer to stateless when pressured by cartels, while the USSR only diverged from that with time. Prefigurative politics and muscle memory is important as much as mode of production in determining which direction a society moves long term.
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>>2836672
you're a retard
go read some lenin on the state

>>2836883
For medieval era people they saw it as a given that everything has a purpose and a reason instead of being driven by scientific laws. I think Marxism is closer to that worldview than reality, because I still haven't seen a time where state socialism successfully became communist like.

>>2837218
Marxism at best is a social science and not one that has a good empirical record.

>>2837218
Scientific laws in Marxism are a piece of the fashion of the late 19th century. You know, positivism was quite popular back then. Even Engels once said that Ernst Mach has a point that science is only empirical (Engels also made a proviso that science is the diamat as well).

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I’m getting really fucking sick of the Palestine Movement’s obsession with “celebrity” activists and how much it prioritizes these western activists over actual Palestinians.

All the time on social media I see incidents of sone western activist living in America losing their job for speaking out against Zionism and then proceed to raise $20,000+ through a GoFundMe account in response. All of that money could have been better spent by being directly given to Palestinian families in Gaza who lost everything because if the genocide, or at the very least organizations with a good reputation for helping Palestinians in Palestine. Western activists will survive without your $100 donation, Palestinian families in Gaza won’t.

Tgis obsession with propping up the personalities of “activist celebrities” is one reason the Palestine a movement has become such a clusterfuck. I’m talking about people like Hasan Piker, Greta Thunberg, Chris Smalls, Ms. Rachel, Kehlani, and Vic Mensa to name a few. How about we start focusing on actual Palestinians? The flotilla activists are the same way: they receive so much money and support when they know full well the Zionist authorities won’t let them into Gaza, making the flotillas merely a stunt. Yeah, they were tortured in Zionist prisons but so have thousands of Palestinians who will never have their voices heard in global media.

Or, when Elias Rodriguez goes to trial in a few months you can be sure he’s going to get tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of dollars in legal donations from Palestine activists. Gaza is suffering and yet you think giving money to a guy who will clearly be found guilty and spend the rest of his life in prison is a better use of your funds?

Celebrities and influencers should not be propped up on a pedestal at all but the same thing goes for these “I was fired for saying ‘Free Palestine’, I’m a martyr now, gib munny pls” types. Palestinians should be the ones centred here, not western activists who have made loads of money and clout for being pro-Palestine.
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So /leftypol/ supports Hasan over Chris Smalls?

Why?

>>2836705
What is this post even supposed to mean? Chris and Hasan are personal friends.

>>2836713

so what's the craic with all these anti-Chris Smalls articles and posts suddenly popping up? Not just on here, but all over the gaff. Did the boy go and denounce Israel or something? Have a cut off the US military? Or maybe he gave a mouthful to the white settlers who voted MAGA? Sure as day, this has the stink of a CIA disinfo campaign all over it same crowd that's always trying to split the left and make us fight among ourselves. Wouldn't be the first time they've flooded the zone with shite to distract from the real enemy. Keep your eyes peeled, lads. This isn't a coincidence it's a god damn glowie operation.

>>2836714
Smalls is a Black man. That’s it.

>>2836714
>Did the boy go and denounce Israel or something?
He was on one of the flotillas.



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>reading about the Industrial Revolution and its consequences in the contemporary world
<mfw when I realize that Marx believed Communism would be possible because he mistakenly believed that industries would generate infinite resources, which would make the division of labor, the origin of social stratification, meaningless since there would be resources for everyone, unlike the systems of servitude prior to Capitalism where the division of labor had to exist to organize/maximize the production of resources since there were no industries and producing alone would not generate enough resources for a larger population to sustain itself
<mfw Marx did not realize that it is the very dynamics of the organization of the division of labor/classes and not the industries that generate infinite resources because equality of production produces absence of competition. Absence of competition produces absence of incentive for innovation. Absence of innovation produces absence of productivity. Absence of productivity produces nothing and is the reason why socialist regimes simply stagnate and need external intervention to maintain themselves(Rule 10)
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>>2835674
reminder that anyone that says USSR, PRC, DPRK were/are vanguards with capitalist modes of production, they outed themselves as never reading Lenin because socialism was defined as him as capitalism in the hands of the workers. This idea of "We need to make a socailist mode of production happen via press of a button" comes from people who have never read theory

>>2835456
<socialist regimes simply stagnate and need external intervention to maintain themselves
Bullshit, but nice tits I guess.

>>2835489
>In practice, however, they generally produced less and faced shortages more frequently, only being surpassed by other countries where there was no even and post-Neolithic serfdom such as those in Africa, though they had modern technology (guns), they still used it for Neolithic purposes (Slavery).
This is what coombrainrot does to your noggin. Produced less lol. Clearly you did not do research. They produced A LOT, but sold it as exports.

>>2835456
>he mistakenly believed that industries would generate infinite resources,
i did not know baboons can use a computer

>>2835795
>at the hands of the workers
<I mean the hands of the workers *representatives*



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