/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2829416
Leninists, I respect them and give conditional support for their advocacy of national liberation and anti imperialism but it's just state capitalism with the false promise that they're somehow building socialism while the actual proletariat has little to no agency.

There are no fake leftists, but there are fake communists.

People who shill for Demonrats (the lengths so many amerikkkana on this board are going to in order to defend Graham "I love killing brown people and getting Nazi tats" Platner is insane).

>Is a pedophile
I promise you Beria was a much better and relevant leftist than you or anyone after 1968 bro.(USER ALREADY BANNED)

>>2829416
Broadly: has a personality type at odds with that of the broad swathe of leftists and liberals.
Any specific policy position runs into the problem that most people don't think that hard about policy and may have different psychological motivations for arriving at their stupid opinions. A socdem who is kind of passively anti-transgender because they think it loses elections is typologically a socdem with a stupid opinion, which is broadly of the leftish-type, while a much better read socialist may still be a fake leftist if they're clearly obsessed with hating transhumanists to the detriment of their socialism. (e.g. typologically they are anti-transgender with incidental socialist views)
If this is too contentious, consider guns: a socdem who is anti-gun because guns hurt people is clearly left-liberal, a socialist who is pro-gun because they see it as necessary to bring about radical social change is clearly leftist too, while a "socialist" who is pro-gun because they have intense fantasies of shooting everyone who ever wronged them is a nutter who is very likely to be won over by the right's greater indulgence of that fantasy.

In big-5 terms, you are very likely to be a "fake leftist" if you are all of these:
>low openness
>low agreeableness
>low neuroticism
with openness being the single most important trait (it's hard to want to upend the status quo if you hate new things), followed by agreeableness (leftism is, after all, wanting nice things…), then neuroticism. (this one's more statistical: a lot of leftists and liberals want leftist and liberal policy because it provides security, and they identify their neurotic tendencies with an external cause in the economic/social system. this is also why liberals trend left in reality, because as their specific social issues no longer serve as an adequate explanation for why they feel the way they do, they intellectualise it further and go "It must be the entire social and economic system, Marx was right!")

These things are also relative by country. That is to say, in the developing world a socialist may be low on all 3 of those traits by first-world standards (because of a more generally conservative society etc), but he will be relatively high on thePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2826164
Abolish private property, money and wage labor

>Testifying before the Royal Commission on Antisemitism and Social Cohesion, which is investigating the spread of antisemitism in Australia ahead of the Dec. 14 attack at Bondi Beach, New South Wales Police Deputy Commissioner David Hudson described a firepower imbalance.

>The police force has responded with a plan to establish an Armed Response Command, equipped with semiautomatic rifles, and by reviving a priority-resourced operation that focused on antisemitic crimes and retaliations against Muslim targets, Hudson said.

i don't understand. so they're creating a force solely to attack muslims for anti-semitism?

https://apnews.com/article/australia-bondi-shooting-antisemitism-inquiry-sydney-4d621f5b57feee7ba98f08a67f0e2769

>>2826164
We're even importing Indian academics to tell us that we need to offshore more jobs to India.

>>2826164
Right wingers and the capitalists should go to offshore camps, instead of migrants.

Capitalism and petit bourgeois ideology has poisoned the minds of this country. Australia is too middle class, and because the middle class society is collapsing, people are turning to the far right.

Things like superannuation breed petite bourgeois ideology [Fuck Hawke and Keating].

>>2825634
>I recently found out for example that Stalin belittled the notion of even attempting to give a damn about Marx and Engels POV
I haven't read much by Stalin myself, but given what you quote this seems to be hyperbole. He was just against quote-mongering and pointed out how long ago Marx had written his stuff. Anyway, the consensus position of people familiar with Marx (no matter their own political preferences) is that Marx did not have to say much about how to do socialism.

The nameless guy who is (acts?) offended by the term "surplus" is ridiculous. The "surplus" in this context is the same as the "common funds" in Critique of the Gotha Programme.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm

>>2825634 (me)
I found a very useful text that elucidates some things in regards my question.
>Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR with Mao Zedong’s Commentaries
https://foreignlanguages.press/product/economic-problems-of-socialism-in-the-ussr-with-mao-zedongs-commentaries-joseph-stalin/
https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/C33-Economic-Problems-in-the-USSR-1st-Printing.pdf

<Stalin:
>1. Character of Economic Laws Under Socialism
>Some comrades deny the objective character of laws of science, and of laws of political economy particularly, under socialism. They deny that the laws of political economy reflect law-governed processes which operate independently of the will of man. They believe that in view of the specific role assigned to the Soviet state by history, the Soviet state and its leaders can abolish existing laws of political economy and can “form,” “create,” new laws. These comrades are profoundly mistaken. It is evident that they con- fuse laws of science, which reflect objective processes in nature or society, processes which take place independently of the will of man, with the laws which are issued by governments, which are made by the will of man, and which have only juridical validity. But they must not be confused.
>Marxism regards laws of science—whether they be laws of natural science or laws of political economy—as the reflection of objective processes which take place independently of the will of man. Man may dis- cover these laws, get to know them, study them, reckon with them in his activities and utilize them in the interests of society, but he cannot change or abolish them. Still less can he form or create new laws of science.
<Mao's comment:
>“This principle is basically correct, but two things are wrong: first, Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2767836
>Alberto Fujimori, a Japanese capitalist
Fujimori was born and raised in Peru, and grew up in the Peruvian Catholic Church. He's a product of Peruvian capitalism.

theyre all trash ideas anarchism, maoism, jucheism are all just third world simping cults. theyve all synthesized into one idea or movement with one goal destroy the west. just stick to the dsa

>>2767848
Death to the United States*
From the ashes shall emerge a truly pan-American state.

>>2813897
Intellectual monopoly rent is cancerous rent seeking anyhow.
>>2813900
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/housing-question
A monopoly on land is no different from a monopoly on a better kind of production. Commercial landlords are still department 1 and should not be taxed.

>>2813900

Listen I wouldn't bother arguing because its very clear from >>2813901 that the guy posting doesn't understand what a land rent is or what land value taxes are.

Its not even that he didn't read volume 3 on differential rent or even ricardo; Guy hasn't even read the Communist Manifesto basic programme.

>>2813892
games aren't on disks and cartridges anymore.

>>2813934
not an argument

>>2813542
To increase the power of the trade unions, you also want to drive up investment/employment and drive down the cost of labor.

Consequently, free trade and public housing are essential. Trade protectionism just drives up the wages of the workers and prevents investment/employment/exploitation. You also want to keep the labor market liquid by disincentivising homeownership.

>>2829192
Ideological state apparatus*

Let me guess, none of you cunts have actually read this

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/althusser/1970/ideology.htm

When you speak of something at a high level of abstraction, that is, without the details of this or that historical period, your explanation is "timeless" (or rather, it is applicable over a longer period compared to explanations full of specifics).

Schumer Among Top Dems Who Marched at NYC Israel Parade With Accused ‘War Criminal’ Smotrich
The Israeli government sent about 10 members of the Israeli Knesset to take part in the event, including two members of National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir’s ultranationalist Otzma Yehudit Party. Heritage Minister Amichai Eliyahu, who said last year that Israel was “rushing toward Gaza being wiped out,” was also part of the delegation.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/israel-parade-nyc

Minnesota Republicans rebuked for Derek Chauvin moment of silence
More recently, however, Chauvin has become something of a cause celebre for political rightwingers and conservative influencers, including Ben Shapiro, who has asserted Floyd was not suffocated but died of a pre-existing medical condition. Calls for Trump to pardon Chauvin have been amplified by Elon Musk, the world’s richest man and ally of the US president. Analysts say such a move by Trump would not secure Chauvin’s release from prison but would see him transferred instead to a state facility.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/01/minnesota-republicans-derek-chauvin-moment-of-silence

Millions pour into Nevada primary ads. A third of the money is untraceable.
It reflects the increasingly prominent role that so-called “dark money” groups are playing in American elections, especially since a 2010 U.S. Supreme Court ruling gave more leeway to corporate donations to these groups. These entities do not have to disclose their donors because they are registered as a 501(c)(4), a type of nonprofit that can raise unlimited funds and lobby on issues that exclusively “promote social welfare.”
https://apnews.com/article/nevada-campaign-ads-dark-money-8ae26858db2eb894c49d75bb9dd27c53

North Carolina police officer seen punching woman during arrest faces assault charge
The North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation announced Monday that 22-year-old Karson Hyder was chPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

“As Smotrich was joining establishment Democratic figures from New York state in the parade—including New York Gov. Kathy Hochul, US Rep. Dan Goldman, Attorney General Letitia James, and New York City Council Speaker Julie Menin—Ben-Gvir on Sunday was publicly calling for the Israel Defense Forces to “flatten” Beirut’s suburbs in the IDF’s incursion into Lebanon—“a direct incitement to mass civilian destruction,” according to Middle East Eye.”

What a despicable fucking country we live in. If karma were real these pieces of filth would rot in hell with Netanyahu.

Dispatches from Delaney Hall: Confronting ICE and State Police
Following the strikers’ consistent demand to meet with Governor Mikie Sherill — who, four months ago, said ICE agents need to be held accountable for their illegal actions, and who, two months ago, made it illegal for ICE agents to wear masks only after pressure from the movement — we joined their call at the gates for her to show up and meet with them as they invoke their rights for medical care, nourishing food free of worms, and basic accountability for the innumerable human rights abuses inside. Sherrill took four days to show up. She asked to go in. Staff apparently told her no. She got in front of cameras near the sidewalk to say she’d ask again (at some other time in an unspecified future). And then she left. Monday night, after Martín was relocated to the Elizabeth Detention Center, more demonstrators arrived and visitation hours for families were closed, citing the demonstrations as a risk — not, of course, their coerced labor or their shameful provisions. (As of the time of this writing, visitation hours have still not been restored.) Tuesday evening, after teaching all day, a coworker and I went straight to Delaney Hall and joined the line of people who locked arms opposite ICE agents, the majority of whom covered their faces with masks. We chanted and held a line at the south gate to keep vans from leaving with more people. That evening, we were chased across the street — away from Delaney Hall — and attacked. Some of us were singled out.
https://www.leftvoice.org/dispatches-from-delaney-hall-confronting-ice-and-state-police/

Authorities in Minnesota Kill 9 People, Shoot 14 in Last Six Months
Law enforcement officers in Minnesota have shot at least 14 people across the state in the past six months, killing 9 of them. With the exception of three shootings by federal officers in January, two of which were fatal, the other 11 shootings were conducted by police, sheriffs, and deputies. No less than 1,201 people were killed by police in the U.S. last year, after 2024 set a record high with American police killing at least 1,271 people. Officers were charged with a crime in 8 of the 1,201 killings in 2025, according to Mapping Police Violence.
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>>2829399
Speak a lil Chinese for em, Derek!

>>2829135
the choice between wage labor and slow death is exactly the choice capitalism offers to the poor. the sort of violence palestine has faced over the years has numerous analogies in history and isn't that unusual to the losers of the capitalist system

>>2829271
You have TDS

>>2829346
>first use “trump derangement syndrome” was by Esther Goldberg
HAHAHA

cut em and suck em right Epstein

>>2829363
Circumcision should be banned but frankly it’s practiced by Christian’s in America about as extensively, and is much less harmful than female genital mutilation practiced by Muslim cultures.

Too many pedophiles posting here lately. Might just be one dude but that's still too many.

>>2828789
we will eventually have global power and we will use that power to find the pedo posters and subject them to the most horrific torture peer reviewed between the working massess and put on public display.

They will have there time in the sun anon, dont worry.

>>2828709
Oy vey, the 26 million!

>>2828794
dont worry, i keep a list of all pedo poster's ip's and posting history. Alot of it comes from Germany, or they use a vpn that directs to german Ip's.

>>2828968
i dont understand

juche won btw

>>2829353

jesus fucking christ you guys are idiots. north korea has been controlling anarchist and maoist types because north korea unlike china finds a mirror image in the aimless, mentally unfit, starving, drugged up american.

Here is from bing A.I

"Adaptation by the Cambridge Collective
The Cambridge Juche collective, which included the People’s Information Collective and the White Panther Tribe, adapted these principles to the American context during the Cold War. Their specific political stance included -

Anti-Imperialism: They viewed the United States as an imperialist power and aligned themselves with global Third World revolutionary movements.
Black Panther Alliance: The group were allies of the Black Panther Party. The Panthers had adopted Juche in 1969 (influenced by Eldridge Cleaver) to provide a theoretical basis for their anti-imperialist politics and the concept of a "Black colony" within the U.S. seeking autonomy.

Radical Autonomy: They emphasized self-sufficiency and autonomy for oppressed communities, mirroring the North Korean model of national sovereignty but applying it to local radical struggles.
Revolutionary Consciousness: Like the North Korean model, they likely emphasized the need for ideological "remolding" and high revolutionary consciousness among the masses to achieve liberation. "

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>>2829355

hahaha oh how cute you think you are lets be clear about what "winning" actually means. okay okay whatever they expanded their collectives since the 70s. Yeah yeah, they Trojan horsed chaos, political attacks, and societal confusion. But that's not victory not total victory.

When it comes down to the final physical battle for the nation and when the legal framework shifts and we receive operational green light when they rear their heads and the s called "Red Sun" finally exhausts even the liberals tolerance… that's when you idiots will understand what it feels like to have the full weight of the nation come down on you boot first.

I'm talking about Democratic governors and Donald Trump, in bipartisan unity, signing off on the largest domestic counter terror policing operation in American history. Every agency. Every pro-American belief system from neoliberals to fullblown white nationalists all united under one flag. We will be there. Physically. We will stamp you out. And we will throw you into containment units so small, so deliberately unlivable that prison cell will sound like a luxury resort. These will be torture death beds before we incinerate you.

You wanted a final battle. You'll get one.

A Brooklyn man was charged today with threatening to assault and murder a U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement (ICE) officer outside an ICE detention facility.

Nicholas Matthew Scelfo, 27, of Brooklyn, New York, was arrested for influencing, impeding, and retaliating against a federal officer by threat. Scelfo is scheduled to appear today before a U.S. Magistrate Judge in Newark federal court.

“Federal law enforcement officers face danger with great courage, and they should be able to do their jobs without being threatened and fearing for their families’ lives,” said Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche. “We take such threats very seriously and will prosecute those who make them to the fullest extent of the law.”

This violent rioter who allegedly threatened to murder an ICE law enforcement officer and his family is being brought to justice,” said Secretary Markwayne Mullin of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). “Our ICE officers are facing an 8,000% increase in death threats against them as they put their lives on the line to arrest murderers, rapists, pedophiles, gang members, and terrorists. Our officers have been assaulted, doxxed, their families threatened. This violence against law enforcement must end. President Trump and I will always stand with our law enforcement officers.

According to documents filed in this case and statements made in court, on or about May 27, during a demonstration outside an ICE detention facility in Newark, Scelfo threatened to assault and murder an ICE officer. According to a video posted to social media and other evidence obtained by law enforcement, Scelfo screamed toward the ICE officer: “I’ll kill your whole f—— family! Your whole f—— family is dead! Your children, your wife, all dead! I have your face, motherf—–! You’re dead! Dead!”

wow buddy, put down the juche meth

behaves just like houdini because theyre smoking that same stuff getting that same brainwashing.


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>>2829298
>>2828716
Fregoli

>>2829318

durp

>>2829344
apologize for the genocide and the sanctions and maybe I'll listen to you whine about the meth

>merely saging this glowie thread full of doxxing
really, mods?

>>2829273
>his previous thread were closed and he was banned yet he keeps coming back. VPN?
I tend to believe that if you give someone a few prompt bans and deletions they're not going to be going to do all that VPN stuff just to post where nobody wants them, but having said that, yea, i believe it with this guy, he seems genuinely psychotic and obsessive.
Not really sure how you deal with that problem except hiring more mods to clean it up faster, discouraging him.
>>2829374
IIRC but only some mods can delete whilst others have lesser powers, so might be a case of only tools a lower level mod has.