/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2938577
the cultivation of fire for cooking meat

>>2938586
The fire automatically breaks down food and makes it tasty and these days "everyone drinks the same coke, from the queen of england to the bum on the street." So not a good example.

>>2938584
for sure

>>2938589
Wtf is this from lol

>>2938601
https://alpha-high-bootcamp.vercel.app/

Jesus Christ how horrifying

Everytime there's US presidential/congress election there's a flood of posters who claim voting is useless, you should never vote, you're a labor aristo/shitlib/lumpen/anticommunist if you do. But if you do vote, you should vote for the GOP because "accelerationism"

Also if you're a burger you're responsible for Gaza and every crime of the US empire of the past 40 years (including if you're a zoomer). But you should never ever vote for anyone opposing this or Israel, because they're all sucdems, and social democracy is basically fascism, except for the GOP. Which is accelerationism.

>>2938378
Social Democracy is the only viable praxis in the Imperial Core (Maoist PPW is currently viable in the Material Conditions of the Periphery/Semi-Periphery as proven by the ongoing Maoist PPWs in India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Peru, and will only be viable in the Material Conditions of the Imperial Core once Bourgeois Liberal Democracy is permanently suspended and/or World War III breaks out, with these two events being related and probably happening around the same time) as long as Bourgeois Liberal Democracy exists, and I advocate voting for Left-Liberal Democrats as a Lesser Evil to Christian Zionist Nationalist Evangelical MAGAtard Republicans, and I support AOC being the 2028 Democratic Presidential Nominee, though I would explicitly advise all Comrades to avoid joining the DSA or any other Leftist organizations in the U$, as doing so is just putting yourself on a list of the first people that will be rounded up and thrown in Concentration Camps if/when the U$ goes full Fascist, and I would also advise avoiding all Protests, especially anything Anti-Zionist/Pro-Palestine, as I suspect that the Zionist-Palestinian conflict is being purposely astroturfed into U$ politics (Comrades must remember that Real Communists (Marxist-Leninist-Maoists) refuse to take sides in Inter-Reactionary/Bourgeois/Imperialist Conflicts and that October 7th was a Mossad False Flag conducted by the Mossad operated Crypto-Zionist Theocratic Islamist Fascist Puppet organization called “Hamas”, to act as the Casus Belli for the Zionist Genocide of Gaza and throw the 2024 Presidential Election to Trump in coordination with the Controlled Opposition Biden/Harris administration in order to allow Trump to turn the U$ into a Fascist State, just like 9/11 was a CIA/Mossad False Flag to act as a Casus Belli for the U$ Imperialist Invasions of Baathist Iraq, one of the last Leftist Arab Nationalist States in the Arab world, and Afghanistan along with to coverup Project Hammer, and the 1999 Russian Apartment Bombings carried out by GRU/FSB/CIA that allowed the Fascist Vlasovite Yeltsin hand power over to the Fascist Vlasovite Eurasianist/Duginist Putin and act as the Casus Belli for the Genocidal Russian Invasion of Chechnya) in order to create a phony “Anti-Semitism” narrative, which combined with the DSA being falsely labeled as a “Communist threat” (their are many sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2938427
trvth nvke that made the ragebaiters baited

>bump locked
kwab, the MLib wokemob cant handle banter

>>2938512
it's nothing but banter, posts of significant effort ITT got ignored or just shit on with low effort bait.

>>2938769
thinking you can go back to it is. read the rest of the post … oh wait, reading is technology. never mind. practice what you preach and hit yourself on the head until you become illiterate.

>>2938254
It's not actually about North Korea. 100% of American media where the North Koreans are the villains are meant to be about China. But the capitalists of America are so cucked by wanting access to the Chinese market that they can never bring themselves to actually make China the villain and thus get themselves banned from the country, so they always palate swap them with North Koreans for plausible deniability.

>>2938254
I remember Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction. Only game I can think of that actually takes place in the DPRK. It has the fear mongering of course, but crucially you’re able to tear through the entire North Korean government and level the entire country with nukes only being launched when you’re literally about to capture the leader (who doesn’t seem to resemble any real leader).

That’s actually depicting North Korea having an incredible amount of restraint, compared to the usual depiction of them trying to invent a reason to launch them.


Despite the dark grimness of the war zone, the towns and cities are depicted actually somewhat faithfully and therefore rather pleasant, surprisingly, considering the gimmick of the game is you can demolish any building you want without consequence.

>>2938266
Yeah true. I was about to say that, North Korea is like Top Gun one and two, fighting against indescript small rogue nation with jet technology. Alienating the Norks is equivalent to alienating a made up country since they're not party of the global economy. But Americans are such fucking cowards. Imagine making up movie after movie about how you beat up on this podunk nation or that. I guess it's the new Victorian adventure genre. At least with Nazis we can pretend they had Nazi super science and mecha and moon bases and demon technology or whatever.

>>2938266
It is also easier to demonize and basically make up anything about the DPRK and people will believe it. The fact that people get executed for having the same cut as KJU AND you get executed for NOT having KJU cut in the same propaganda reel shows that you can say anything and people will believe it. China has too much of a diaspora abroad and is not sanctioned to the degree DPRK is and Chinas Markets make it much easier to dispute ridiculous claims.
The demonization has also made reunification less attainable to the point the DPRK gave up on reunification. If you hear what ROK say about Northerners it would make anyone afraid, literally talking about slave labor for Northerners because "they are all cultists for the Kim family" and are "too dumb unlike the prosperous South".

Moved to >>>/games/48407.

>>2935311
Yo my sincere gratitude to you bordy guys for taking a good chunk of the garbage away from this website keep up the good work

>>2935311
Thank god bordigayfags are finally fucking off

>>2935311
>>2935544
so much for that lol

I am wondering how many people think like this

Jayapal, Sanders Question Zuckerberg Over Alleged Meta Interference in Brazilian Election
Leftist Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva is facing far-right Sen. Flávio Bolsonaro, the son of former President Jair Bolsonaro, in Sunday’s election. Lula has asked the Superior Electoral Court to probe his challenger over “improper use” of a social network and disqualify him, and Bolsonaro—an ally of US President Donald Trump—has similarly sought Lula’s disqualification.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/brazil-election

Trump administration abandons appeals in fight over student loan forgiveness program
The Education Department wanted to place limits on who could qualify for PSLF, which gives student loan forgiveness to people in government and nonprofit jobs after 10 years of payments. It had sought to bar people at nonprofits who worked on immigration rights and other left-leaning issues, but the move was blocked by a judge over the summer. The Justice Department originally appealed the judge’s decision but on Wednesday agreed to drop the case with little explanation.
https://thehill.com/homenews/education/6164998-public-service-loan-forgiveness-student-debt-relief-pslf/
https://archive.ph/GfuPH

Employers Shift Rising Health Care Costs Onto Millions of Workers
Many people are also paying thousands of dollars in medical expenses when they get sick, because companies have increased the plans’ deductibles to offset increases in premiums. The yearly price, on average, for employees to cover their family is now $7,471 a year, up 9 percent from 2025. The total cost for a family plan, including the amount the employer contributes to the annual premiums, has reached $28,303.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/22/business/health-insurance-costs-workers-premiums-deductibles.html
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TYBNA

Another East Jerusalem neighbourhood is demolished as the world fails to act
Down a track and past a pile of debris, 20 or so well-dressed people are waiting, all diplomats. I am joining them on a trip around al-Bustan, a Palestinian neighbourhood in occupied East Jerusalem that has been scheduled for demolition. Many homes have been destroyed already. Bustan (“the Orchard”) is to be turned into a car park and recreation ground for settlers - but not for Palestinian residents, who will by then be absent. We stumble past the ruins of what used to be a house. In the garden is a caravan, where we are met by the owner, Fakhri Abu Diab. His wife Ameena, mother of their five children, stands nearby. “They arrived at three in the morning, armed soldiers with black masks putting a gun to my head,” Fakhri recalls of a recent visit. “They took me to interrogation.” On another occasion, they broke Ameena’s glasses. Terrified, she “clenched her jaw so hard that she broke her teeth”. The diplomats shuffle their feet. Fakhri and Ameena, now in their sixties, have lived in Bustan all their lives. Fakhri is chairman of the local residents’ committee, but he won’t be a resident much longer. Their temporary home is scheduled for demolition within 21 days of 4 October, when a new demolition order was pasted on his gate. They don’t know where to go next. “Whenever I hear bulldozers or any machinery, my automatic reaction is that they are coming for us,” Fakhri tells Middle East Eye.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/we-have-lost-hope-world-looks-away-palestines-history-crushed

Czech Republic: Leading KSČM members condemn Konečná's alignment with the far right
Kateřina Konečná's decision to join the far-right, xenophobic and anti-communist Patriots for Europe group in the European Parliament has triggered fierce criticism within the Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia (KSČM). Leading party cadres, including Vice-Chairman Milan Krajča and Petra Prokšanová, have publicly condemned the move, describing it as a fundamental political error and distancing themselves from the former party chairwoman's decision. In a statement published on Thursday, October 22, Krajča stressed that Patriots for Europe brings together right-wing, anti-communist politiciaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2936217
maybe
sniff
maybe
but what's the diff btwn dauve's critique of substitutionism and trotsky's critique of substitutionism

>>2936348
>seizing state power is the revolution
>>2936424
<Not for marxists or anarchists
then what is "revolution" according to them? because I always thought of it as the moment when the proletariat seizes the state and uses it to suppress the bourgeoisie, and establish proletarian class-dictatorship, and then enact changes that "gradually transform" (Engels!) society. I.e. you seize the state and do reforms that weren't possible under the previous class dictatorship because they were always sabotaged or blocked by the previous ruling class. So we see in this view that revolution and reform are not opposites, it's just that the latter must happen after the former, not before.

>>2936446
Thank you for this, doesn't seem as retarded as I thought it was.

>>2936446
>communizers see unions as a mediators who do not further the class struggle towards the enactment of communist measures and in fact see unions as obstacles that must be overcome during the social revolution.
i think it depends on whether those unions are labor-aristocratic/collaborationist/imperialist or not

>>2936434
I didn't ask for a list of prescriptions from you "real"tm socialism checklist. I asked what choices could these people realistically and concretely make that would have resulted in different outcomes. The "mistakes" the we were supposedly to learn from

Why should anyone care about some accounting done by dutch faggots that never amounted to anything? Which already got dogwalked by Lenin over a century ago. The soviet union tried various methods of accounting for labor-time and all it did was return to some kind of wage form.

Most socialist states tried to integrate and advance modern technology to the maximum extent possible. The soviet union for instance went from a semi-feudal backwater to putting people in space in the span of a few decades. If you're talking about the lack of computerization in the SU I agree it was an mistake, though mostly a meme atp, a throwaway issue

Again "support workers self management" is just a vague platitude regarding stuff that historic socialist countries have already done and continue to do, same with political democracy, etc.

I ask again, what alternative choices could these specific states have made? What are the supposed "stagist mistakes" that we are supposed to learn from?

>>2937778
there are marx quotes in there too. any time i "spam" these quotes 2 things usually happen.

>people ASSOOM the point i am trying to make with them instead of just reading them at face value

>people accuse me of "quotemining" or "taking marx and lenin out of context" but never establish what the correct context is

the replies i get are usually short, low effort, full of accusations ,etc. these are the same anons who will just reply with "read marx" or "read lenin" usually but then when you actually quote marx and lenin they get very upset.

>>2937781
>Resolutely denounce Deng Xiaoping's reactionary crimes

pretty sure the cultural revolutionaries killed more Communist Party members than Deng Xiaoping did, including veterans of the World Antifascist War, but as usual with you types, killing comrades is the goal, as long as you make sure to slander them as not real communists beforehand.

<The United States and the Soviet Union have held talks that showed an encouraging tendency towards disarmament. We are happy to see this. I looked forward to the end of the Cold War, but now I feel disappointed. It seems that one Cold War has come to an end but that two others have already begun: one is being waged against all the countries of the South and the Third World, and the other against socialism. The Western countries are staging a third world war without gunsmoke. By that I mean they want to bring about the peaceful evolution of socialist countries towards capitalism. We are not surprised at the developments in Eastern Europe. These changes were bound to take place sooner or later. The trouble there started from inside. The Western countries have the same attitude towards China as towards the East European countries. They are unhappy that China adheres to socialism. The turmoil that arose in China this year also had to come about sooner or later. We ourselves were partly to blame. As you know, two of our General Secretaries fell because of their failure to deal with the problem of bourgeois liberalization. If China allowed bourgeois liberalization, there would inevitably be turmoil.[…] the Group of Seven summit meeting issued a declaration imposing sanctions on China. What qualifies them to do that? Who granted them the authority? Actually, national sovereignty is far more important than human rights, but they often infringe upon the sovereignty of poor, weak countries of the Third World. Their talk about human rights, freedom and democracy is only designed to safeguard the interests of the strong, rich countries, which take advantage of their strength to bully weak countries, and which pursue hegemony and practice power politics. We never listen to such stuff. Nor do you.

• Deng Xiaoping, Speaking to Julius Nyerere, We Must Adhere To Socialism and Prevent Peaceful Evolution Towar

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>>2937789
Kill yourself mao won

UPHOLD KIRKZALO THOUGHT!

>>2937791
>Kill yourself mao won

Yes, let us remember the words of the Great Helmsman Mao Zedong:

<The upper petty bourgeoisie and middle bourgeoisie, oppressed and injured by the landlords and big bourgeoisie and their state power, may take part in the new-democratic revolution or stay neutral, though they are themselves bourgeois. They have no ties, or comparatively few, with imperialism and are the genuine national bourgeoisie. Wherever the state power of New Democracy extends, it must firmly and unhesitatingly protect them. […] It is absolutely impermissible to repeat such wrong ultra-Left polices towards the upper petty bourgeois and middle bourgeois sectors in the economy as our Party adopted during 1931-34 (unduly advanced labor conditions, excessive income tax rates, encroachment on the interests of industrialists and merchants during the land reform, and the adoption as a goal of the so-called "workers' welfare", which was a short-sighted and one-sided concept, instead of the goal of developing production, promoting economic prosperity, giving consideration to both public and private interests and benefiting both labor and capital). To repeat such mistakes would certainly damage the interests both of the working masses and of the new-democratic state. […] To sum up, the economic structure of New China will consist of: (1) the state-owned economy, which is the leading sector; (2) the agricultural economy, developing step by step from individual to collective; and (3) the economy of small independent craftsmen and traders and the economy of small and middle private capital. These constitute the whole of the new-democratic national economy. The principles guiding the new-democratic national economy must closely conform to the general objective of developing production, promoting economic prosperity, giving consideration to both public and private interests and benefiting both labor and capital. Any principle, policy or measure that deviates from this general objective is wrong.

• Mao Zedong, The Present Situation and Our Tasks, 25th December, 1947. Preserved in The Selected Works of Mao Zedong
  

<”We want to do business.” Quite right, business will be done. We are against no one ePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

da mod will be buried in da Chagos
coconut in di skull mi kill

>>2935698
hey remember in 2008 when Californians got together and voted to ban gay marriage?

>>2935772
the pro-loli argument boils down to not being a reactionary retard. get over it.

Any advice for Jack wilimos heading into November? The hands of that genius are ready to big or go home.

>>2935674
How the fuck is capitalism automatically pro-apartheid? Capitalism in the long run wants to make everybody a double-free laborer with no racial limits to employment. Marx was against slavery for a reason.

Israel as it exists in its current form is an anomaly. The majority of the Western ruling class would actually prefer a more palpable, left-liberal, softer form of Palestinian oppression.

>>2937646
>How the fuck is capitalism automatically pro-apartheid?
Uyghur please tell me you're not being serious.

>>2937646
>How the fuck is capitalism automatically pro-apartheid?
The idolatrous Mammon-worshipping d.egenerate system that your people like to label as "Capitalism" was birthed from slave-owner societies. The starting wealth which kick-started industrialization for the West was generated from genocide and colonialism. Capitalism goes hand in hand with apartheid, racism, slavery, and other ills.

https://x.com/upholdreality/status/2097745124021108961

>>2937630
>neither positive or negative regarding socialism
shalom

>>2937656
>the West
Capitalism is a global system.
The transatlantic slave trade involved Africans selling other Africans into slavery. Isolating it to a few polities entirely misses the point.