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WILLKOMENSKULTUR IST VORBEI edition

>“The age of Willkommenskultur is over, the era of mass deportations has begun,” commented the Sweden Democrats party, whose MEP Charlie Weimers played a central role as ECR’s shadow rapporteur.

>In a rare show of unity on the European Right, the directive was adopted not only by the national conservative groups (PfE, ECR, and ESN) but also the EPP, which votes together with the leftist parties in the vast majority of cases.
>Most importantly, the new law will introduce a mutual recognition and enforcement obligation between member states regarding deportation orders, meaning migrants cannot circumvent return decisions by moving to a different EU country and restarting the process. A return order in one country will legally count as a valid order in all of them.
>Another important point is the introduction of third-country return hubs, making it possible for member states to externalize return procedures by sending migrants to secure facilities outside EU territory to wait for the end of the process, ensuring they won’t escape implementation once the paperwork’s done.

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>>2924064
>I don't see a way they could defeat NATO head on or would even bother trying.
2924064
because it's fucking russia all they ever did was try to invade europe and they're not going to stop. they can't help it either - it's their nature to do so.

>>2924065
yeah nah it's far easier for nato to destroy russia than the other way around because most of it's population simply lives alongside volga
i look forward to the suicidal scenario

>>2924210
>Humans vs orcs

>>2924234
does your reductio ad fantasy make it any less real?

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can't wait til we're genociding butthurt belters together with russia again



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Why were so many communist leaders so callous about the lives of workers?
It seems like they cared more about trying to create a productive developed society than the people that society would actually be created for.
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>>2924321
>Yes they did. You are confusing Khrushchev with the Liberman reforms under Brezhnev. Those reforms were done because Khrushchev consolidated too much of everything under the purview of Gosplan and Gossnab. Artels sold things on markets and stores. You could do custom orders for clothes in stores and they would be routed to a private tailor, store getting the cut and you getting the product. This was done in the 1950s. You could also go to the tailor directly, the economy was different, but it was not just exclusive relationship with the state. Machine Tractor Stations were state property and not part of artels. Khanin said Stalin was thinking about further expanding commodity production. I guess we are dealing with Schrödinger's Stalin here.
You have no citations, so you have no proof for your arguments; furthermore, you are confusing an individual worker using their own labor power with cooperatives that had an exclusive relationship with the state. Khrushchev dismantled the state-owned Machine and Tractor Stations and handed them over to agricultural cooperatives; therefore, you are wrong.

You can see the arguments in this quote by Stalin:

<It is said that, since the domination of social ownership of the means of production has been established in our country, and the system of wage labour and exploitation has been abolished, commodity production has lost all meaning and should therefore be done away with.


<That is also untrue. Today there are two basic forms of socialist production in our country: state, or publicly-owned production, and collective-farm production, which cannot be said to be publicly owned. In the state enterprises, the means of production and the product of production are national property. In the collective farm, although the means of production (land, machines) do belong to the state, the product of production is the property of the different collective farms, since the labour, as well as the seed, is their own, while the land, which has been turned over to the collective farms in perpetual tenure, is used by them virtually as their own property, in spite of the fact that they cannot sell, buy, lease or mortgage it.


<The effect of this is that the state
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>>2920766
everyone learns this, nobody knows what to do about it. either you seize power from the people exploiting you, or you are at their mercy forever. if you try "abolish power" you just create a power vacuum that everyone seeking power quickly stampedes after.

>>2924342
Wrong. Imperialist capitalism is characterized by uneven development among countries; therefore, a simultaneous global revolutionary situation will not occur, as the communist movements in various countries will not progress at the same rate toward seizing power. Fantasizing about a global revolution to concoct opportunistic excuses for communists and workers to avoid overthrowing their bourgeois state and establishing a proletarian state constitutes counter-revolutionary betrayal. By your logic, Marx and Engels would have condemned the Paris Commune.

If, in a given country, workers have been prepared for a communist revolution by a communist party amidst a revolutionary situation, one cannot invent excuses to avoid overthrowing the bourgeois state; one must establish the dictatorship of the proletariat and strive to achieve economic sovereignty as quickly as possible, regardless of the suffering required to socialize the economy or the hatred one might incur. Giving up is also unacceptable. Defending the supremacy of the proletarian class, organized in a workers' party independent of the bourgeoisie, is the obligation of all communists.

>>2920766
I disagree. Your rhetoric reflects an anti-Marxist apathy rather than a desire to help the proletariat seize power and become the new ruling class.

>>2924513
The only crucial point is for the proletariat to achieve political supremacy by using social equality to abolish private property, the anarchy of production, and social classes. To me, fearing power is foolish. Morality is also irrelevant to me, because class interests dictate what matters: the class struggle, possessing class consciousness, and understanding the irreconcilable nature of the conflict between private property owners and non-owners social classes. Inventing imaginary enemies out of a fear of "authoritarianism", while ignoring the capitalist class and its apologists, leaves one vulnerable to co-optation.

>>2924513
It's why electoral mechanism are essential. They are the only real way power can be checked by the masses short of violence. The problem is, too many socialists are totalitarian ideologues who see any ability for anyone to check their power as the starting point for a counter revolution and therefore tolerate no dissent, which just leads to those "socialists" abusing their unchecked power like anyone else.



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Eritrea and Ethiopia shutter embassies as new Red Sea conflict looms
The strike punctured Addis Ababa’s relative calm despite Ethiopia’s federal government battling an alliance of rebel movements opposed to Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed in Ethiopia’s regions of Tigray, Amhara and Afar. Western and regional officials in Addis Ababa confirmed to Middle East Eye the sound of explosions in the capital due to a drone strike. AFP reported that the explosion rocked the Ethiopian National Defence Force headquarters in the Tor Hayloch area of Addis Ababa. In a statement, Ethiopia accused Eritrea of engaging in “direct and indirect acts of hostility and belligerence” against it.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/eritrea-and-ethiopia-shutter-embassies-new-red-sea-war-looming

Protesters against illegal immigration in South Africa call for more deportations
With some brandishing traditional Zulu weapons and singing cultural songs, they marched through Durban’s streets. Police didn’t report any incidents of violence against foreigners during the protest. A similar deadline set for June 30 sparked a mass repatriation of foreigners to their various African countries after attacks on immigrants. The governments of those nations arranged for the evacuation of their citizens.
https://apnews.com/article/south-africa-illegal-immigration-protest-tensions-c086e617b555643510541f9c9906ca4b

Flydubai co-pilot ‘assaulted’ captain before landing: Initial Saudi probe
Saudi Arabia’s Interior Ministry says that a preliminary investigation into the emergency landing of a Flydubai flight this week found that “the pilot was assaulted by his co-pilot, resulting in various injuries to both”. the ministry said on Thursday that an initial investigation into the flight from Dubai to Tel Aviv was conducted by Saudi authorities with the participation of a security team from the United Arab Emirates.
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Most Americans say US-Israel war on Iran not worth fighting: Poll
The poll also indicated that, despite their frustration, two-thirds of Republicans surveyed said that higher than usual prices are due to factors outside of Trump’s control, with about one-third saying it was directly related to Trump’s policies. The sombre numbers suggest the president remains deeply unpopular nationally, with some Republicans also faulting him for failing to deliver on promised relief.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/10/1/most-americans-say-us-israel-war-on-iran-not-worth-fighting-poll
https://archive.ph/hikK9

‘Matter of Life and Death’: Senators Demand Trump Administration Boost Heating Aid as Iran War Hikes Costs
In a letter sent to HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the senators—19 Democrats along with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)—urged an emergency appropriation request for “at least $3 billion for the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP),” which would supplement the $4 billion already allocated to the heating assistance initiative.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/iran-war-heating-oil

FBI arrests Energy Department employee on charge of trying to support Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen
Ellaboudy himself was recorded telling FBI informants, whom officials had introduced into the investigation, that he had to be smuggled into and out of Yemen and that he had hoped to reach the country’s capital to make government-level connections, the affidavit says. He was ultimately unable to make it to Sanaa, the FBI said.
https://apnews.com/article/houthis-fbi-yemen-iran-arrest-3df1b86e80c30d5ce053301f62f51d8e

PAC spent $131 million in 17 days to rescue Paxton in Texas Senate race
Senate Majority PAC, the main super PAC for Senate Democrats, just launched its bid to boost Talarico and target Paxton. A PAC backing Talarico, Lone Star Rising, has Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Nikos Romanos Acquitted As Greek Government Pushes Terrorism Cases
Testing Greece’s controversial terrorism law, Greek anarchist Nikos Romanos, alongside Argyrios K. and Dimitris P., was acquitted of terrorism charges earlier this year in connection with an explosion in an apartment in Athens in October 2024. For the same case, Marianna Manoura was sentenced to 19 years in prison on explosives and terrorism charges, while Dimitra Zarafeta received an eight-year sentence. The charges against Romanos were centered on a partial fingerprint found on a plastic bag where the accidental explosion occurred in the Ampelokipi neighborhood. The investigation turned into a terrorism case and renewed attention on Romanos who previously gained notoriety in 2008 after witnessing the police kill his friend Alexandros Grigoropoulos, which triggered weeks of unrest across Greece.
https://unicornriot.ninja/2026/nikos-romanos-acquitted-as-greek-government-pushes-terrorism-cases/

Ireland: Pre-Budget Protest
Donald Trump visited Ireland recently. It was a two-day visit so he could play golf. The estimated cost to the Irish taxpayer is reported to be in excess of 20 million Euros (Clare Echo, 6/8/26). Not surprisingly, the visit caused controversy and resulted in mass protests. The latter is a good thing. What is strange, however, was the lack of enthusiasm for a protest held just one week later in Dublin. A protest was called for September 19 th in Parnell Square, Central Dublin, as a pre-Budget demonstration. The budget is due to be announced on October 6 th by Finance Minister Simon Harris on behalf of the right-wing coalition of Fianna Fail and Fine Gael. The government is sitting on a surplus, but indications are they intend to do little or nothing to help those in need of support. There are a number of basic issues that highlight a social crisis in the 26 Counties. A big one is housing. Social housing is no longer being built people are waiting years on lists and private landlords are allowed to get away with exorbitant rents. It is not unusual for people to pay 40 or 50% of their income on rent. That’s if you can actually find somewhere in the first place. Many young people are living in the bedrooms they grew up in, since availability is as muchPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Day 213 of Operation Epstein Fury

<Tired of Winning edition.

OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
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>>2924465
>the same arguments Zionists use
<the same arguments every Communist country used
Sorry I take the practice of actual Communists more seriously than idealist drivel.
>>2924466
Yes, during the war they were. Then they switched after the war to facilitate post-war reconstruction.

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it's human psychology. when you have been marginalized and dominated and abused for as long as you can remember, you're basically like a confused angry child with no real sense of self, you've spend your whole life in a prison where everything you do and think and believe was dictated by your masters, so you are still institutionalized and you don't really have any outside knowledge or an ability to form your own ideas about anything. so you have to look outside for inspiration and validation, you look at the world and study the people in it who seem to really have their shit together and know what they are doing and you try to do what they do because that is all you can do at this point. but as you continue studying the world and learning more information, you eventually begin to accumulate enough raw material for critical thought and introspection to be possible, you can now stop relying so much on outside influence and can look inward and start taking an inventory and thinking about all the things you have learned and experienced and questioning everything and deciding what is right and what makes sense and what is really for you and what you are really about, and in this way you build and refine yourself and become a truly independent and autonomous individual. but if you don't do that and you just keep being the confused angry child doing the "fake it til you make it" thing and believing that if you blindly follow and emulate other people you will somehow become empowered in this way, then you still have no real agency and you're living in denial and being another kind of slave whose sense of self is being completely dictated by other people, who most likely don't really give a shit about you or your wellbeing at all. this is why some black activists thought they could empower themselves by appropriating the religious beliefs of the arabs who conquered and enslaved africa before whitey did and why some feminists thought they could empower themselves by appropriating the fashion and careerism and elitism of the male authority figures who demeaned them and harassed them at work every day, this is why kids who get picked on in school start glomming onto the bullies and emulating their behaviors and become toadies.

>>2923745
>all over history you have sociopathic people, it does not matter what race religion or whatever they are. the point is, there are sociopathic people who do atrocities, but also weaponize atrocities as an excuse to do more atrocities.
too reasonable for this website. this website calls such reasonable ideas liberal.



 

the future is a neo feudal tech dystopia where the new lords are the tech oligarchs who own the AI, the second tier will be the ai safety regulators, the new bourgeoise. and the third tier will be 98 percent of humanity who have lost their worth and purpose having been replaced by AI, at best becoming useless consumers who live off a stipend of UBI

there will be no revolution or even any use for an army, since the tech lords will have autonomous drones and AI surveillance monitoring dissidents

Only one central problem will remain for humanity (that which remains alive), and it will be the theological one. The transition to the new world, triggered by technology, does not seem likely to affect in any way that hidden, inner space where, as if we were sitting before the universe, we ask ourselves to know the One who gives us the desire to know Him and to know everything within ourselves and beyond ourselves.

Christianity, the religion of slaves and the illiterate, will once again begin its journey. For it is not data that saves us, but crossing the bridge over the abyss of life.
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>>2924186 You're either illiterate or schizing out; where did I say that they will be equally harmed? They will all be affected in SOME way, and in different places it will vary. Some places will see revolution and some will see what you're describing. The whole point of what I'm saying is that it's variable between different circumstances with different material conditions. Saying that different material conditions across worlds' societies will result in the exact same uncomplicated black-and-white outcome displays a crippling inability to understand how politics and history works on even a basic level.

>>2924231 That's what I'm saying. I hate this idea that the future will be a neo-fuedal global tech hellscape which multiple people in this thread are promoting. Shit's gonna be an unpredictable mess.

>>2924328
well feudalism died because of enclsoure and industrialization. but now profit is dying because SNLT is too low. so you go back to rent, but the rent is of a new form. it is not feudal rent.

>>2924158
The Emerging Tiers
Based on current trajectories of wealth concentration, AI capability development, and labor
market disruption, the model proposed here anticipates the following class structure by the mid-2030s,
absent significant intervention:

Tier 1: Infrastructure Owners (approximately 1 percent). The individuals and entities who own
compute infrastructure, energy supply, foundational AI models, and critical data assets. Amodei notes
that Elon Musk’s current fortune (approximately $700 billion) already exceeds John D. Rockefeller’s
peak wealth as a share of GDP, and this is before the primary economic impact of AI Amodei (2026a).
He projects that AI companies could generate approximately $3 trillion in revenue per year, leading to
personal fortunes “well into the trillions” Amodei (2026a). Research confirms that AI adoption has
already contributed to increasing concentration of wealth among top income earners, while the bottom
50 percent has seen only marginal gains Aluko et al. (2026).

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>>2924377
Feudalism died because of class tensions between the merchants and the aristocrats, with the merchants winning and looting the social surplus and accelerating entropy. Everything else is correct tho.



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>The people try to rise up to heaven
>The ruler of the universe divides the people by confusing their language to keep them out of heaven
is it a proto-class-conscious story? or just a story to explain the origin of language before people understood linguistics? on the one hand one can see the rudiments of class consciousness at play in the story, on the other hand there is no divide shown between the people doing the building and the people commissioning the building, it is just "the people" versus "heaven". But what is "heaven" if not the ruling class of the ancient world? It can also be the personification of all forces beyond our control, including forces like the weather. Somewhere along the way we conflated our ancestor worship and filial piety with nature personfication and got nature deities. this led to yahweh, to judaism, and eventually to the tower of babel story.

My ancestors

I have discussed the topic of the Tower of Babel before.
Read: >>2911022
Also, can mods move this thread into /QTDDTOT/, please?

Jesus and his followers were quite radical for their time when you really think about it.




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Flying and Nazi Malays Edition.

A general thread for the discussion for all things happening in Southeast Asia. What a year it has been. Forest fires in Borneo now. Border skirmishes with Thailand and Cambodia. Vietnam mimicking South Korean chaebols. Singapore begging its citizens to have kids. Malaysia sending Rohingya refugees back to Myanmar while it is still in a civil war.

All the while the heat is cooking us now.
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>>2919314
But why? God SEA politics is such a clown show.

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Everyone is talking about the sg gov dating event for their civil servant but from what i heard so far it just sounds like a nothingburger event. Earlier this year, they tried to push for more leave for families with kids but TFR is still decreasing.

What really annoys me is that the world seems to orientalize Singapore in a way like they did with Japan, where they project technocratic proficiency into places where Singapore is objectively failing, and locals are eager to play along for clicks and views.

>Vietnam mimicking South Korean chaebols.
<man who thought socialism was dead surprised to find there was still new ways in which its corpse could be defiled

>>2903034
Aren't the FDD proxies for the West?

>>2924061
Singapore and Japan are the most glazed Asian countries by burger midwits which just exposes their fascism further, as if there was even a need.



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What Young Marx actually thought about personal wealth and standard of living:

<A house may be large or small; as long as the neighboring houses are likewise small, it satisfies all social requirement for a residence. But let there arise next to the little house a palace, and the little house shrinks to a hut. The little house now makes it clear that its inmate has no social position at all to maintain, or but a very insignificant one; and however high it may shoot up in the course of civilization, if the neighboring palace rises in equal or even in greater measure, the occupant of the relatively little house will always find himself more uncomfortable, more dissatisfied, more cramped within his four walls. An appreciable rise in wages presupposes a rapid growth of productive capital. Rapid growth of productive capital calls forth just as rapid a growth of wealth, of luxury, of social needs and social pleasures. Therefore, although the pleasures of the labourer have increased, the social gratification which they afford has fallen in comparison with the increased pleasures of the capitalist, which are inaccessible to the worker, in comparison with the stage of development of society in general. Our wants and pleasures have their origin in society; we therefore measure them in relation to society; we do not measure them in relation to the objects which serve for their gratification. Since they are of a social nature, they are of a relative nature.


- Karl Marx, Wage Labour and Capital (1847), Chapter 6

Basically he is saying that being well-off isn't just about what you have, it's also about what everyone else has. If your income goes up but rich people's wealth increases much faster, you may actually feel poorer compared with them. Humans naturally compare themselves with other people, so our idea of what we need depends partly on the society we live in.

<The thoughts of every piece of private property as such are at least turned against richer private property in the form of envy and the desire to level everything down; hence these feelings in fact constitute the essence of competition. The crude communist is merely the culmination of this envy and desire to level down on the basis of a preconceived minimum. It has a definite, limited measure. How little this abolition of private property is a true appropriation is shown by the abstract negation of the e
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>>2923760
meme made by someone whose only knowledge of the amish comes from amish romances

>>2923760
its funny how the Amish rely on a state that uses technology to uphold its dominance.

>>2923760
well even lenin said the proletariat was only capable of trade union conscious. and duncan does not strike me as an NrX guy. he is not nearly that edgy about it. He is more like "revolutions are cross cultural class alliances but the lower classes inevitably get betrayed by the new ruling class" so he is more of a cynic about it.

>>2923783
kind of like those haredim in israel who don't work or fight but have lots of kids and read torah all day. yeah the amish are actually quite a bit like that.

>>2923760
>just become a rural farmer bro. it's not like capital has a process for seizing the land from peasants and forcing them into the cities or anything



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There isn't a single industry in the West experiencing real growth except defense and AI and calling it "growth" is generous. It’s more of a last-resort attempt to pump life into a rotting cadaver. Meanwhile, China is consolidating global tech innovation, closing in on fusion energy and hardware built to outpace the West entirely. Mass layoffs across traditional SaaS, gaming, and social media confirm the truth: there’s simply no money left in the consumer economy worth extracting, leaving defense as the only viable play against a dead-end market. Which is why we're seeing companies like flock and palantir or anduril suddenly being overvalued.
Im in tech and I'm tired of the entire market. I wonder if at this pace a service economy really makes sense. It's simply unsustainable
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Automation + jobs being exported = lower wages for employees = less buying power employees = no buying products = Crisis of overproduction

Crisis of overproduction = war usually

It’s over man

>>2922639
tis happened befoe doe

This is why we need to build an army of robots, so we can go to war and destroy those robots so we can build more robots.

>>2922066
It's a trillion dollar bet that open models that will run on a $50,000 server rack won't keep pace with OpenAI and Anthropic. They're fucked without massive protectionist policy coming in quick. We can only hope the bay area gets hollowed out into a silicone rust belt because the weather is probably the best in the world.

>>2921971
>innovation and clean energy is capitalism
Nice try.



 

I used to think right-wingers just had a different worldview but now I think they're just dumb.

They're wrong about everything: economics, social issues, science. Being right-wing is basically just being retarded.
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>>2924079
Aren't you also like a Jewish Mexican or something?

>>2924080
no im Catholic and Puerto Rican

>>2924081
Ok, I remembered someone with your flag who used to spam the Iran thread I think.

>>2924082
I think theres like at least 5 leftcom flag posters here last time I was paying attention
I post teto pictures mostly I hardly ever go into the iran thread



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