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why is it that the only resistance to anti imperialism really doing anything is shia islam

>hezbollah actively fighting Israel like warriors


>houthis closing straits liberating their land


>irgc closing straits bombing us bases


>western left is so pussyfied worrying about if working out is fascism and if its not that its democratic socialist dsa slop should we all just convert to shia Islam and start jihad on the capitalists is that the only way we stop being soy libtards?


YA HUSSAIN(A.S) YA ZAINAB(R.A) YA ALI(A.S)
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>>2912920
>india invented western marxism 3000 years ago gandalf
woah…

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>>2913224
Is he supposed to be a satanist or sumthin?

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>>2913224
the USSR was really pioneering the soyjaks before everyone else

>>2912981
>Also important. The main problem in organizing for any illegal activity is knowing who you can trust.
Yeah. Also just having other guys being able to back you up and with actual firepower too. If you get grabbed by some guys then the guys in your tribe will kill those guys. Or they'll come get you out of there.

>>2913224
>ignores history
You mean the faction that had to be curtailed because of loss of support?
It got so bad that atheists had to promote christianity and islam in order to get support for communism.



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Flying and Nazi Malays Edition.

A general thread for the discussion for all things happening in Southeast Asia. What a year it has been. Forest fires in Borneo now. Border skirmishes with Thailand and Cambodia. Vietnam mimicking South Korean chaebols. Singapore begging its citizens to have kids. Malaysia sending Rohingya refugees back to Myanmar while it is still in a civil war.

All the while the heat is cooking us now.
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>>2912096
He does claim himself as the descendant of one of the prince of the dai viet from around 1300, but the movement itself has been completely made up in the US from nothing, twenty years after the vietnam war already ended, with help from the US government, the only government with Ukraine (not joking btw) that somewhat recognize their existence
As for the vietnamese diaspora, he was personally implicated in helping refugees from south vietnam settle in the US, and they voted him president of the "third republic of vietnam", so he did help them, they're not just retards

>>2912128
It just seems shoddy and haphazard even for being wholly artificial

is it true that the Ottomans controlled even Indonesia?

>>2912161
I’m sure their merchants went everywhere but the Ottomans weren’t ever going to conquer the Safavids or the Mughals. They couldn’t even deal with Greeks, Serbs, and Armenians, how are they going to deal with millions of Hindus better than the Mughals?

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Indonesian anons, is there any truth to the claims that those protests from last year were an op, or is this just baseless slander? (One of these articles talk about the earlier protests that occurred in 2023)
https://thegrayzone.com/2026/06/05/soros-osf-indonesian-insurrection-leaks/
https://www.mintpressnews.com/leak-cia-ned-color-revolution-coup-indonesia/285617/



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Genuine question. Why do left-wing anti-imperialists in general celebrate 10/7, but condemn 9/11? If you read some of what Yahya Sinwar has said, his reasoning was very similar to OBL's. Big attack meant to ignite a wider war, break the status quo of arab states' collaboration with the occupiers and make the world turn against the US (for OBL) and Israel (for Sinwar).

(On the last point, OBL genuinely thought 9/11 would get Americans to turn against their government like with Vietnam which is laughable. Yahya Sinwar was at least correct that 10/7 slowed arab normalization with Israel and severely damaged its reputation worldwide.)
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>>2913067
it's not about hamas an al qaeda it has to do with seeing america as deserving 9/11 and seeing israel as deserving 10/7. nobody in their right mind would dispute that america and israel are le bad but it's shortsighted to see these events only in terms of their immediate effects because as already pointed out the blowback from these events resulted in the deaths of way more random middle eastern civilians who had nothing to do with it.

>>2913145
Geopolitics is shuch a dumb and evil game played by the powerful, colateral life are just numbers to those people.

>>2912269
7-eleven is a nipponese company

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>>2913196
It was founded in 美国 thoughever

>>2913196
Seven Ereven



 

It's time someone said it: Engels was dead wrong in "on the housing question", especially in a US context.

<During the 1870s, a major polemical debate unfolded in Germany’s worker/democratic press on the shortage of housing available to workers in major industrial centres. The influx and increase of the proletariat created a housing crisis. On June 26 1872, Engels contributed the first of a series of articles to the Volksstaat, entitled “The Housing Question.” The last appeared on February 22 1873. Engels’ central point was that the revolutionary class policy of the proletariat cannot be replaced by a policy of reforms, because "it is not that the solution of the housing question simultaneously solves the social question, but that only by the solution of the social question, that is, by the abolition of the capitalist mode of production, is the solution of the housing question made possible." The series criticizes Proudhonism (and petty-bourgeois socialism in general, including Lassalleanism). It also discusses things like the nature of the State, the dictatorship of the proletariat, the eradication of the antithesis between town and country, the solution of the agrarian problem, forms of the socialist reconstruction of society and the tasks of the proletarian party.


Engels argued against other socialists like Proudhon and Emil Sax who argued that widespread working class home ownership was the solution to the housing crisis. Engels actually classified Sax's scheme as "bourgeois socialism" because it aimed state intervention at ameliorating class consciousness without altering overall class relations that much, by "bourgeois-fying" the proletariat through home ownership.

Engels denies that workers even want land and also thinks that if workers owned houses the bourgeoisie will just lower their wages by the amount of the rent they no longer have to pay.

In his haste to prove these non revolutionary class reconciliation schemes can't work and only socialist revolution can actually resolve the contradictions of housing under capitalism. Perhaps that it true in the long run, but that may be centuries. Engels concedes, essentially, that working class homeowners, while not capitalist, are also non proletarian:

>Capital is the command over the unpaid labor of others. The house of the worker can only become capital therefore if he rents it to a third person an
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>>2911077
Sorry, CEOs aren't proletarian. Neither are professional athletes.

>>2912904
What makes someone proletarian?

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>>2912913
>What makes someone proletarian?
being the working class of the 19th century

why did you use obi wan for this threaed?

>>2913172
thats not obi wan thats engels



 

A little known topic about how the basis of Vietnamesse coffee production came from their socialist era. Trade agreements that benefit the client state are rare and shows how communism can work
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>>2912723
You’re an edgy social democrat

>>2912724
>retard has no arguments
>muh social democracy
Bordiga rotted your brain

>>2912728
Why have people sacrifice their lives and die just to work for wages and buy shit just like right now? Not even having a plan, no matter how long term to get out of that awful status quo makes even going to jail for you a non starter.

>>2912723
If you think communism will have money, classes, states, and commodities, what even distinguishes communism as a mode of production from capitalism?

I guess if you're talking about the DoTP then yeah these things will be inherited from capitalism but the point of the DoTP is to abolish the conditions that led to commodities, classes, etc and thereby transition into communism.

>>2912729
Au contraire my dear leftychud.
Getting out of that predicament is the goal.
But you will not get out of it by wishing it away in a fantasy scenario. You need a new status quo.

>>2912737
Because those things by themselves do not form the totality of property relations. Communism is innovative in how it allows the government direct claim over labor power of the citizenry. This is key for it opens so many doors for civilizational innovation. However, in so doing, this government should it rationally organize and motivate the citizenry, will resolve contradictions within the existing property relations, creating new ones. Only thing is, we do not know how exactly these relations will evolve, we can only estimate its direction via econophysics.



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>>>/siberia/818393
> If you want to be really esoteric, Marxism is advanced feudalism.
No. Marxism is not advanced feudalism. Feudalism is predicated on aristocrat-serf class relations, whereas Marxism is predicated on the elimination of class relations. On what planet could one possibly come to the "esoteric" conclusion that Marxism is "advanced feudalism?" Even assuming this is inspired by that dumb pop-Economics book from Yanis Varoufakis (Technoefeudalism) that is not even his hypothesis. His hypothesis is that the capitalist countries are becoming Technofeudal, not the AES countries. I am honestly baffled by this take and thought it deserved its own thread, because I did not want to derail the thread I found it in. Where are people getting this idea? Is there a common source for this revision or is it arising out of pure vibes?
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>>2909604
This leftychud gets it.
As regards class stratification, unless our biology changes, there will be specialists who are initiated into scientific disciplines because there is massive downshot potential for screwups. They will not be classes stratified, but classes networked like special cells in a body. Hence the advanced or esoteric feudalism.

>>2909651
My argument was this existed before antiquity under another name and exists even today. Absolute monarchy is a phase of feudalism as this control existed on a spectrum with the underlying property relations remaining feudal. It would be like comparing hoxhaist albania and titoist yugoslavia. Even tho they had radically different power relations, the property relations were fundamentally socialist.

>>2909491
It's not a materialist analysis (or whatever these words even mean to you), it's just picking up common similarities and saying "whoa look at that ! I just discovered that the USSR was feudal !". I remember some anon on 4chan coming to the same conclusion as you but to criticize communism.
>dude look the USSR had a politburo deciding production territorially
>and look at that ! feudalism had a lord that also decided production on his territory too !
<that must mean they're one and the same

I'm guessing the austrian economics bit is you agreeing with Mises' vague truisms ?

>>2911467
These are not common similarities, but deeper analysis into otherwise separate phenomena. It is not just the USSR I applied this to. The part you should be looking to is property relations, horizontal and vertical authority relations and ideological superstructure.

>Mises

More like understanding that the market is a natural calculator of SNLT and central planning attempts to mimic it are futile and instead Central Planning is more efficiently used as a tool within a market which is also how the USSR economy in the 1930s-1950s functioned, this not being a contradiction if your goal is proprietarianism, that is people owning property. Also Yugoslavia, China etc.

>>2912521
Before I go, I have my disagreements with cybercoms on this exact point.
>Mandated Full employment and Labor credits in the way presented by proponents of cybercommunism are indistinguishable from the vision set by the WEF.
Simply put, until I see visible simulations of said system that allows for freedom, it would not be a viable system.
If so, a system of guaranteed employment renumerated by labor credits with a parallel economy of private money is beneficial. In this case, private money demand will come from the government purchasing or allowing citizens to use labor credits to purchase goods and services produced in the parallel economy.
And this system will allow for the gradual withering away of the state bordigafags like so much.



 

*destroys the need for theory in your path*

No seriously. Why do we even need to “read theory” or engage in long endless debates about philosophy when Kropotkin showed us that human beings have a natural inclination towards empathy and solidarity with all others? Hunter-gatherer societies cared for each other without needing any abstract moral principles or “theories” on how to achieve an egalitarian society, they simply lived it because it was in their nature.
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>>2912337
>decommodification
Is that like a "Hitler decommodified West Russia" joke ?

>>2912337
>open up ancient history book on egypt
>no anarchism to be found
>no mention of Spain 36
>didnt even know what communism was

interesting

What makes appeals to anthropology any different in essence than appeals to historicism?

>>2912841
That anthropology is more scientific



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<BREAKING: people whos whole life, work and money depends on AI development predict AI is gonna do some crazy shit real soon, for real bro this time it's no joke, the end of evangelion + terminator is going to happen irl and AI is going to do it, AI will come into your house and kill you, be scared!

I'm starting to think this is just hype and marketing without anything behind it, a paper tiger, all the AI apocalypse thing just sounds goofy now
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>>2912399
God was real for people a thousand years ago, it’s not real now, people in the future will scoff at einstein physics the way you scoff at the bible

>>2912396
Rape has nothing to do with reality which we can never fully know retard

>>2912397
Are you gonna wear your seatbelt? Will your airbags go off?

>>2912401
You can never fully know if my dick in your butt isn't your wet daydreaming…

>>2912432
Intuition is superior to knowledge for exactly that reason



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It's completely impossible to have any sort of meaningful conversation about anything that matters anymore because nobody will engage with the facts. Conservatives who've never put any thought into a topic in their life will say "well my initial assumption is obviously common sense" and the general public will treat this as an equally (if not more) valid argument than citing years of history and peer-reviewed research done by people who've dedicated their lives to understanding the world. There's no way for the left to convince anyone of anything if reality itself is shunned as political bias. It's so infuriating that it's pushing me towards a radically misanthropic mindset. How do we pull the masses out from this gaping abyss?
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>>2909195
>but the country probably still has one of the highest rates of atheism in the world
Supposedly

>>2907186
>>2909105
Many sections of the American right and left have a negative bias toward Europeans.

On the right, this often means portraying Americans as rugged individualists, pioneers and cowboys compared with supposedly soft and safe Europeans. This conveniently ignores the enormous scale of warfare and violence taking place in Europe at the same time. More men likely died in a single 19th-century European battle than in all the violence associated with the Wild West.
On the left, it tends to mean praising America for its openness, diversity, liberalism and role in defeating fascism. On the far left, it’s more about seeing America as merely slightly better and freer than Europe.

Both versions are objectively wrong, but I they ultimately serve the same purpose, allowing Americans to self-mythologize a story about why America is uniquely different and superior to Europe.

>they are anti-intellectual
Oh, so they'll vote for the next retard and unknowingly spread more far-left propaganda for us by not getting the point?

>>2897720
No they don't, theyll be dunking on women one moment, then displaying false empathy as an excuse to dunk on a group they hate and would like to exterminate

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>>2898250
>>2910118
Atun-Shei’s and Portable Orange’s videos on the American Revolution are a great example of the left-wing version of this crude anti-European American bias. It's less love for America and more like a deep hostility toward Europe, combined with a desperate desire to distance America from its European origins. Like the libertarians they also place far too much emphasis on the Minutemen. Atun-Shei literally states that the Minutemen alone won the war and defeated the strongest Empire in the world. That is such a moronic claim that it would be instantly disproven with even the slightest bit of research into the American Revolution. It literally calls into question everything else he has ever said about history.

Their main difference with the libertarian version is that they will point to some obscure unit that included free people of color as something particularly praiseworthy, while also trying to emphasize that the farm boys were lower-class men. I’m sure the common British foot soldiers weren’t exactly living in luxury, in fact they were undoubtedly much poorer than many American settlers.
Another thing the libertarian right and leftist have in common is the way they view Europe as essentially one unified culture. The right tends to portray Europe as bureaucratic, stuffy, socialist and bland, while the left often portrays it as Fascistic racist nazis. Both sides also seem to have a particular fascination with ignoring the mere existence of the Continental Army for whatever political reasons.



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I have been brainwashed by rightist propaganda into believing that human ethnicities or "races" have differing skills a capabilities because of biological factors

I'm tired of my mind being clouded by hateful intrusive thoughts

Please help deprogram me
Please show me the light and please tell me which books or articles I should read that shows there isn't a "superior race"

Please
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>>2911196
and might makes right last i checked so maybe that means aryanoids are inferior cucks

>>2911179
>>2911187
>racial difference in cognition and physical traits
uyghur i know you're a retarded zoomer with no historical knowledge but 30 years ago no one in the mainstream thought china could build a space station on their own or conquer the car market with electric cars or push out humanoid robotics. the average view of chinks was of child labor sweatshops churning out cheap plastic. the problem with racists is they don't understand how every single "race" was stereotyped as incompetent and useless and incapable of advancement up until the evidence finally became insurmountable that they had indeed advanced. the same criticisms made of africans today were made of japanese, koreans, and germans in the past. you simply don't study anything and are retarded so you don't understand how you're repeating those same mistakes.

>>2911187
I agree with the whole cognitive difference thing, but why can't you agree that cognitive differences change? You appealing to materialism selectively is very fake and gay.

>>2911211
?
independent of how the Chinese were “viewed” Chinese and other East Asians have scored on par or even above whites in psychometric testing since literally the beginning

I don’t see where you’re going with this, the science never lied about the Asians regardless of what the vulgar masses though of China as a nation state




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