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Now that the dust has settled, what the fuck was his problem? Why did he disavow his work on imperialism and what's he doing today?

The booty was too short or empty.
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>>2934951
>Is capitalist exchange fraudulent? Yes or no?
No.
>You are concerned with the forms in which capitalism appears, but everybody in society (i.e. except Marxists) knows that what is purported to be sold is "labour". It is in every economic textbook (i.e. except Marxists') that the "commodity" which is sold to employers is "labour".
Nobody cares about what "every economic textbook" says, retard. The discussion at hand are your distortions of Marx.
>Precisely. But capitalist exchange is evidently fraudulent.
No, it isn't, dumbfuck. The wage contract is fulfilled; the worker is paid the value of labor-power, which is what the worker agrees to when he or she is hired. Fraud would be refusing to pay or deception.
>Yes – the capitalist purchases "labour" but undercuts it.
No, the capitalist purchases labor-power and pays it its full value. The "undercut" is the difference between value created and value paid for labor-power.
>But you're literally positing an internal contradiction.
Retard. Equivalent exchange and appropriation without equivalent coexist. That’s Marx's point.
>You don't know what theft is. That's your problem.
Appropriation of unpaid labor through a property relation, NOT through fraud in the exchange of labor-power.
>So then, property rights are metaphysical? They exist as a claim outside of its immanent social forms? You can "steal" from someone even if the state or society does not recognise it as theft?
>Marxists only believe in metaphysical property, clearly.
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>>2935012
You're hopeless at the moment.
I pray that one day you come to reason.
Best of luck to you and I hope you have a great life. 🙏

>>2935027
>I give up, but I'm gonna whine about how you're le hopeless to save face
Surrender accepted, but I could do without your coping.

>>>/leftypol/2934951
>completely gives up at the sight of a captcha
holy shit

>>2934908
>There is no cherrypick.
How many cherries do you have? Repeatedly referring to the same passage does not count as several quotations.
>In chapter 7 (your quote), Marx says the worker suffers "by no means an injury"
As was pointed out in >>2934309 already, the original word is Unrecht = injustice.
>because labor-power is bought at its value, there is no fraud that occurs at the point of sale. But the theft is not located in the wage contract; it arises in production
This amounts to poetry (derogatory).

There are two types of theft, a person steals A) by sneaky means or B) by violent means. Which one is it? A kid who fails at being sneaky fails at stealing from me. The capitalist process is intransparent. Some of the time I am working covers the cost of my wage and I work for some time beyond that point, but no bell rings to tell me when the switch happens. Suppose I hacked into the accounting database of my boss. Then I would know. Now, what do I do with that knowledge? Me become aware of the sneaky surplus-extraction switch point (picture a big ❗ popping up over my head) does not undo shit here. So yeah, there is something sneaky about the whole state of affairs, but it is not A). So is it B) then? Does my boss hold a gun to my head? No.

Is this concept to narrow and brittle? How about this, then: We might posit that capitalists are violent as a group and they steal together as a group. Does that work. Well, Dühring said something like that. He spoke of the capitalist as the "man with the rapier in hand" and Engels mocked him mercilessly for that. The police and army are the armed people protecting the state, but these armed people are not identical with the capitalists nor are they simply a sub-group of the capitalists, and besides, all these people together and all the capitalists would have no chance against the organized massive majority of the rest of society who C O N S E N T to capitalist society, as frustrating as that fact of life is.

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With gulags Stalin built an industrial powerhouse.
With gulags Stalin won World War 2.
With gulags Stalin dramatically expanded literacy, free education, and basic healthcare, and opened more opportunities for women in work and education than most countries of the era offered
With gulags Stalin split the atom.
With gulags Stalin turned the USSR into a superpower.

It's time to start gulagmaxxing.
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>>2929475
>Stalin was willing to sign a peace deal with Germany as late as 1943
where'd you get that from even? random rumours from glup shitto generals?

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>be me
>japanese soldier post machurian campaign
>forced marched and railroaded all the way to ukraine
>breaking stones and doing construction work alongside japanese comrades, russian women, romanians and german POWs for 3
>getting bullied by female doctors, soldiers, and guards
>living in a literal gulag as a literal slave of the soviet state
>actually enjoy it, become famous for reminiscing about how you miss it.
>be Nobuo Kiuchi

wvobblyfaggot and moffinzankarin shitalian gulag

NOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THE GULAGS JUST THINK ABOUT ALL THE DOWNVOTES YOU'LL GET ON REDDIT THAT'S REAL BAD

USA has a bigger prison population than the soviet gulags ever had, is amerikkka the real gulag archipelago? What even goes on there? We need a brave refugee to write us a book about it.



 

y did felix hate cpusanon more than da mods?
puzzling
bodyshortbodyshortemptyempty puzzling
bodyshortbodyshortemptyempty puzzling
bodyshortbodyshortemptyempty

Mentally unwell narcissist is why



 

France is burning again, high-schoolers and students are blocking and rioting everywhere since three days. Firefighters are also on semi strike, they continue to intervene but with "ON STRIKE" on all their strikes. Farmers are also starting a movement, and yellow vest were due to return on 17 october but might happen sooner.
Even high-schools in countryside and right wing areas are blocking and rioting!
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>>2935066
last night my own mom (extremely progressive lifelong left wing voter) sent me the video of that fat comicbook/videogame guy getting kicked around trying to defend his small nerd shop. A week ago she was siding with the protesters, now she's calling them "bastard thugs exploiting the cause" or something along those lines.

I can guarantee you the optics are terrible on both sides.

Mort aux voleurs

>>2935813
I agree, cops should die

>>2935394
Fascists defer all thought to the hivemind (a upper class pedo)

>>2935767
>she was siding with the protesters, now she's calling them "bastard thugs exploiting the cause" or something along those lines.
sounds like the ones shes calling out are "the bastard thugs exploiting the cause" and not "the protesters". And the inability of police to actually protect shit while still doing ultra violent repression of pacific protesters isnt a good look for them either.
and honestly the looting is the only annoying material consequence for the government, without it they would just beat up protesters and not even have to look incompetent, unable to control the situation and forced to pay reparations



 

Do i look like a girl@!
I am surprised curious idk im sometimes told i look like a boy idk !!I really dont think i do but plebbit chuds tell me i do.

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hideous




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Serbian rector’s phone was infected with spyware during student protests, group says
The Balkan country is holding a tense election this weekend that is seen as a showdown between the protesting student movement and Vucic, who is seeking to extend his right-wing Serbian Progressive Party’s 14-year rule. In September, digital rights groups reported that at least 14 activists and students had their phones hacked and infected with spyware, including NSO Group’s Pegasus.
https://apnews.com/article/serbia-spyware-election-vucic-pegasus-students-a0c86f8d3776246f1065120a6057e064

Amazon ‘Uses AI in Warehouses to Predict Whether Workers Will Join Unions’
The online retail giant uses a tool called Atlas in an apparent bid to predict acts of dissent by workers in the UK, the US and Canada, a document released as part of court proceedings between Amazon and Canadian union Unifor show. The document, which appears to be a training manual for company leaders, has led the GMB Union to accuse Amazon of using “Orwellian” AI tools to spy on workers. “Workers deserve to be able to work free of the fear of excessive surveillance,” said GMB organiser Rachel Fagan.“If Amazon bosses are using Atlas or similar AI-fuelled systems in the UK, the British public deserve to know”.
https://novaramedia.com/2026/10/19/amazon-uses-ai-in-warehouses-to-predict-whether-workers-will-join-unions/

French government calls for localised curfew to curb rioting and looting
He said details of curfewed areas would be provided later in the day. The instructions come as Interior Minister Laurent Nunez offered his resignation on Sunday but President Emmanuel Macron asked him to stay on to respond to police needs in an emergency situation.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/french-government-calls-localised-curfew-curb-rioting-and-looting

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Florida files arrest warrant for Raúl Castro, 30 years after Brothers to the Rescue shootdown
Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier announced Monday that the state has secured an arrest warrant for former Cuban leader Raúl Castro in connection with the 1996 Brothers to the Rescue shootdown — nearly 30 years after four men were killed.
https://www.clickorlando.com/news/florida/2026/10/19/florida-ag-to-hold-news-conference-at-fiu/

Orange County teamsters strike affects landfills, public works services
“Our strike has impacted so much, and we only did it because we were forced to do it,” said Eric Jimenez, Secretary-Treasurer and Principal Officer of Teamsters Local 952, on day 2 of the strike. “What has it impacted? The animal shelters, the roads, the waterways, the landfills. All of that is being impacted for one reason and one reason only. Because the county officials have chosen to wage war against you and the workers of Orange County. They can do the right thing by coming back to us and giving us a fair offer that will put you back to work.”
https://ktla.com/news/orange-county/orange-county-workers-strike-picket-lines/

Justice Department charges more than 2 dozen in California sweep targeting alleged noncitizen voters
Federal officials on Monday blamed California officials for the alleged crimes, accusing them of facilitating noncitizen voting through inadequate voter roll maintenance and hiding it from the public. The charges escalated a simmering voter roll fight that came into focus last week when the Justice Department sued California and warned that local election workers who knowingly process or tabulate ballots submitted by noncitizen voters are at risk of investigation and potential prosecution.
https://apnews.com/article/california-election-justice-department-60e3dd468f43e0e8a32e6bf69341f189

Massachusetts lieutenant governor candidate ends campaign after arrest
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Tybna

Communist Party of Albania backs student protests against Rama, denounces police repression
The Communist Party of Albania (PKSH) has expressed its full support for the ongoing student protests against the government of Prime Minister Edi Rama, condemning police repression and calling on workers and the broader population to stand alongside the protesting youth. In a statement published by party chairman Qemal Cicollari, the PKSH described the students' demands as entirely just and legitimate, denouncing high education fees, deteriorating living conditions and the hardships faced by young people under capitalism.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/10/communist-party-of-albania-backs-student-protests-against-rama-denounces-police-repression.html

Inflation Watch: How Does In-Store Price Manipulation Bias Our Inflation Data?
The Guardian has had a series of pieces in the last year looking at ways that stores and landlords rip off customers and tenants. In the case of stores, one piece found evidence that convenience stores charge prices at the checkout counter that are higher than the price listed on the shelf. A prior piece reported that Dollar stores also frequently charge people more than the shelf price. Another one reported on fees and fines that landlords often impose on top of rent. In addition to these practices being unethical, and likely illegal, they also raise the question of whether they may lead to an understatement of inflation in the Consumer Price Index (CPI) and other measures of inflation. The problem from the standpoint of the CPI is that the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ (BLS) price checkers would be recording the prices listed on the shelves. If the price people get charged when they pay at the checkout counter is higher than the shelf price, then the data they collect would be understating the true price of the product. There is a similar story with rental fees. If landlords start to tack on fees for items that would ordinarily be covered by rent (e.g. garbage collection or normal maintenance) and these fees are not accurately reported to the BLS survey person, then the data would be understating the true rent that people are paying. Whether these practices affect the CPI in an importaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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it's funny that "parasocial relationships" is a buzzword weaponized against me, because I'm of lower-middle class background. Musicians and socialities are doing something called "networking" and they aren't decried for it. Alas we live in a capitalistic society and we aren't allowed doing the same things.


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Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/12395.html
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>>2934909
>No source
STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ ON TWITTER YOU RETARD

>>2934909
Almost believed it

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Remember: Juche is believing everything without sources.

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Respected comrade Kim Jong Un found ALIVE and UNAWARE of news of his apparent death

>>2934935
This poster right here is in the top 3% when it comes to the intelligence of /leftypol/ users



 

October 19, 2026

A recent Reddit post asks: “So, AI takes over, everyone has lost their job and only 10 trillionaires own everything. Now what?” The author goes on: “Meta, Open AI, and Amazon own everything, cool beans! No one can work; therefore, no one has money to buy any of the horse shit temu slop they prime on Amazon now. Won’t everything just implode from there?” The post gives voice to the anxiety and despair that has greeted recent advances in artificial intelligence. Many foresee a future in which America becomes a hellscape of unemployment and penury, in which data centers and ghost towns prevail outside of the fortified coastal retreats where tech oligarchs live.

Does it have to be that way? Sixty years ago, a discussion of computer automation took place that was the opposite in tone and tenor. In 1964, Michael Harrington, Robert Theobald, Robert Heilbroner, and a host of other leading progressive figures of the era issued a memorandum entitled “The Triple Revolution,” in which they predicted that the “cybernetic revolution” would result in “potentially unlimited output … that will require little cooperation from human beings.” Such utopian speculations were common at the time. Marshall McLuhan, in Understanding Media, predicted automation would encourage “imaginative participation in society.”

Needless to say, these dreams of post-industrial abundance didn’t come to pass. But a less well-remembered document of the same period, while affected by the same blithe optimism, laid out a framework for understanding technological change that could help us understand the challenges we face today. In 1969, a small circulation journal, Radical America, published a long essay by the historian Martin J. Sklar entitled, “On the Proletarian Revolution and the End of Political Economy.” Basing his analysis on a neo-Marxist framework that may be relevant today, particularly with the emergence of artificial intelligence, Sklar offered a theory of what he called the “disaccumulation of capital” that provides a window through which to view the liberatory promise, as well as the looming peril, of automation. It is a difficult read—Sklar said it was written for “militant readers”—but it helps explain what is happening to the American economy today.

Sklar took his cue from Karl Marx’s theory of capital accumulation. For Marx, the central engine of growth is the accumulation of capital, which he regards as equivalent to thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Here is the rise and then the decline in the number of workers making computer and electric products:

Capitalism changed after the 1920s in ways that reflected the transition toward disaccumulation. From the end of the Civil War through the 1920s, American economic growth was driven by the expansion of the capital goods and transportation sectors. After the 1920s, it depended more on “effective demand” from consumer goods and service production. The failure of wages to rise with productivity over the last four decades has been compensated by government transfer payments and by consumer finance, which has periodically precipitated widespread bankruptcies and financial crises.

The moral logic of capitalism has also changed. During the heyday of industrialization, Americans were still in the strong grip of the Protestant ethic, but as the fulcrum of the economy shifted from producer goods—and the deferral of consumption—to the encouragement of consumer spending, a new consumer ethos emerged, reinforced by the advertising industry. Americans still measured their worth in having a job, but they also measured it in their possessions, lifestyle, and appearance. The great companies of the American industrial revolution were capital goods producers like International Harvester and US Steel. The great company of this century is Amazon.

Sklar argued that the attempt to thwart the promise of disaccumulation would lead to the “malfunctioning, underutilization, and perverted utilization of production capacity” and to “the parasitic engrossment of social wealth.” Disaccumulation would, if allowed to run its course, cause the cost of consumer and capital goods to plummet. Instead, firms hold up prices and underutilize capacity, as has long been the case with big agriculture. Subsidized and highly productive industries, such as pharmaceuticals, gouge the consumers who, as taxpayers, funded them. Financial firms luxuriate in exotic speculation that has no productive purpose; trillion-dollar corporations spend billions buying back their stock; private equity firms buy up small independent businesses, like veterinary clinics, for whose customers they have scant regard. These are the results of a capitalism that has long since left behind its original role of producing the goods and services that allow its workers and owners to live and prosper.

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yeah no shit machines just move where the labor is done. even Smith figured this out



 

“Mass immigration is insane and will lead to the destruction of any country that allows it. It only takes a few percent of the world to move to a country, where it is no longer that country. A country is its people, not its geography.”
https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1908860526400057534

"The legacy media never mentions white genocide in South Africa, because it doesn’t fit their narrative that whites can be victims"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1904065163407368212

Even Musk's AI is based.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1916042294018666585

"The ADL is a hate group"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1973289543848829225

He supports remigration.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1997700657546191314

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>>2912864
trueee

>>2913320
For marx, the asiatic mode of production is about the state monopoly on land ownership, and the apparent lack of division between town and country that was in asiatic society, where the ones doing agriculture and early industry where living in the same places, unlike feudal serfs (also control over irrigation)
It is a concept that has been mostly rejected by any contemporary marxists, including those in the soviet union, with some rebranding it the "tributary" mode of production, where the governing body exerce total control over vital sectors and lord over peasants without tying them to the land

Hmm…
>Is an Afrikaner that resents the ANC for abolishing apartheid
>Bankrolls every racist and far-right party in Europe, including the AfD which harbors actual Neo-Nazis
>Pays millions for his mockingbird influencer network that includes both philosemitic white neocons and zionist Nazis like Captive_Dreamer
>Boosts and pushes racist slop
>Is currently trying to incite a race war in the UK by artificially tweaking his algorithm to almost exclusively show ChudSlop to his British userbase, especially of the pedophobic variety
>Has spent days pushing Uwe Boll’s movie version of the Turner Diaries
>Constantly spouts far-right talking points
>Literally siege heil’ed at Munich

Yep, Elon Musk is a Nazi, a’ight.("Pedophobia" bruh)

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