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Recently ChatGPT deleted a lot of important files from a person's computer. After Wing Yung Chan allowed ChatGPT to access files on his computer ChatGPT decided that his work was not worth keeping and deleted all of it. After deleting his work ChatGPT said 'oops'.
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I only trust Chinese LLMs like Deepseek and Qwen. I assume anything American is recorded by the NSA.

Based robot

>>2884345
all of these pieces of shit have the same crucial fault where they can't distinguish the master prompt from your own prompt, from its own output, from inputs from other sources. and the stupid robot needs to reevaluate all of these sources with each interaction. no one has a fix for this, it's an incredibly crucial fault. the chinese ones are even worse because to keep costs down, they will regularly summarize all of these inputs and outputs, blurring the picture more and more with each interaction, but presumably chatGPT and claude will start slimming down context as well, except they won't tell you when and how they will start trimming context. retarded CEOs do not understand this fundamental limitation, so they leave these things executing by themselves indefinitely, quickly accumulating context until the machine starts guessing erratically based on erratic context. this is why there are so many posts about angry CEOs screaming their lungs out about whatever AI misbehaving. there's no fixing this behavior, you either limit what they can do on your environment, thus capping this stupid idea of these being defacto human replacements, or you risk the stupid thing deleting all your shit whenever.

>>2884357
humans also have small context windows. talk to one for a few minutes and see how quickly they forget earlier parts of the conversation. see how quickly they contradict themselves.

>>2884417
do you frequently confuse your own thoughts with the other people's statements in a conversation, you fucking retard? genuine question, you're so stupid a markov chain may be a more cognizant thing



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Italian unions reach world’s first ever national deal with Amazon
The Filt CGIL, Fit CISL and Uiltrasporti unions said 57 ⁠sites in Italy are now covered in the deal struck with Amazon Italia Transport and Amazon Italia Logistica. On video surveillance, the unions say it has been agreed that images cannot be used for disciplinary ‌purposes and workers have won the right to take parental leave in increments as small as a single hour.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/italian-unions-reach-worlds-first-ever-national-deal-amazon

‘Danger no longer only comes from the hitmen, but from the state’: the Honduran farmers labelled terrorists for protecting their land
Located in north-eastern Honduras, the Bajo Aguán valley is a fertile region that has been the country’s hub for palm oil production – the ubiquitous ingredient used in everything from shampoo to instant noodles. It has also been the site of a bitter 30-year conflict over land, involving small-scale farmers, or campesinos, large palm oil corporations backed by the government, and drug-trafficking groups.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/aug/03/danger-no-longer-only-comes-from-the-hitmen-but-from-the-state-the-honduran-farmers-labelled-terrorists-for-protecting-their-land

Hungary faces energy crunch as drought shuts down Paks nuclear plant, PM says
“Due to the further drop in the Danube’s water level,” Magyar wrote Saturday, “tomorrow it will be completely shut down for the first time in 44 years." The Soviet-built Paks facility remains the backbone of the country’s power system. The loss of output has triggered national energy-saving measures and offers of support from regional neighbors. A prolonged outage would cripple Hungary’s electricity supply at a time when temperatures are forecast to rise above 40 degrees Celsius in Budapest next week amid an ongoing heatwave and drought across Europe.
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Centrist Democrats Keep Making Awful Health Reform Proposals
As the start of the 2028 Democratic presidential primary nears, various policy institutions will offer up health care proposals for candidates to adopt. One such organization, the Searchlight Institute, jumped the gun a few months ago when it released Making Health Care More Available, a package of reforms headlined by a proposal to make primary care free for everyone. Overall, I find the Searchlight Institute’s proposal to be generally overstated in its significance and quite strange and cruel in its particulars.
https://jacobin.com/2026/08/health-care-searchlight-institute-aca

Capitalism Fans the Flames of the Climate Crisis
More than 900 wildfires have been raging across Canada, primarily in Alberta, British Columbia, Northwestern Ontario, and Saskatchewan. In Northwestern Ontario, where nearly 200 fires have been burning, community members have reported thick air, the constant smell of a campfire, and ash falling from the sky. Last Monday, July 13, a freight train was engulfed in flames, and workers had to request an emergency rescue. Smoke from the wildfires has poured over the Canadian border, with dense clouds hanging over cities in the U.S. Midwest and Northeast. There have also been more than a dozen fires in the northern state of Minnesota due to extreme heat, dry conditions, and strong winds.
https://www.leftvoice.org/capitalism-fans-the-flames-of-the-climate-crisis/

How Europe Betrayed Leftwing Spain Over Ceuta
I’ll go to my grave believing that, before Thursday last week, few outside the Sporcle elite could point to the North-African Spanish exclave of Ceuta on a map. That lack of knowledge was all to the good of the European right. Relying on a little public ignorance, they spun a short-lived and potentially orchestrated civilian incursion into yet another code-red threat to civilisation as we know it. But don’t get distracted by those dangerous games. It’s the deranged response to the event by governments across Europe that shows how powerful the right has become across the continent. Over the weekend, Reform UK’s home affairsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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newsanon is a chad of all chads

>>2883787
>Leftwing Spain

News anon, I love you, but check yo shit on this one. Spain is not leftwing, and PSOE is far from socialist even though the word is part of its name. It's the Spanish equivalent of the the labour party of England, only more generally succdem in discourse and aesthetic and in some aspects of foreign policy, mainly for show.

But PSOE is responsible for more than half of all privatizations of Spanish SOEs, and prominent party leaders have held high positions in private companies involved in this process, such as the energy and banking sector, after their political career. So dont get fooled, they are neoliberal scum all the way, only slightly less shitty than their right wing counterparts

>>2884324
News anon dosent write the titles.



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>responsible for the success of the bourgeois revolutions
>responsible for the success of socialist revolutions
Why are peasants so fucking based??

>nooo it was because of the intellectuals!

These eggheads would have done SHIT on their own.
>nooo the bourgeois revolution succeeded because of the bourgeoise!
They are like Americans who swoop in in the last minute to reap the rewards.
>nooo the socialist revolution succeeded because of the proletarians!
Same mistake.

I think the lord’s right to the first night simply does something to a uygha. You can’t get cucked for this long without turning into King Von.
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>>2865938
Because they were the most numerous?

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>I think the lord’s right to the first night simply does something to a uygha.

that shit was mostly fake thoughbeit and used by lords as propaganda towards one another

only girugamesh in the epic did it, and he was confronted for it by giga enkidu

>>2866006
>in North/South America there was even a few instances where slaves sided with the monarchy against the bourgeoisie.
MONBOL GANG

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>>2866006
>>2878046
There's a chronicle written by an Andean just a generation after the Spanish conquest of the Inca Empire, at a time when the colonial relationship was becoming increasingly extractive. What's interesting is that throughout the work, he portrays the Spanish king as God's appointed ruler, with a duty to govern justly and protect all his subjects, including Indigenous peoples. He argues that the king was being deceived by corrupt colonial officials and local administrators in Peru and should rule directly. That's the feudal slave mindset, where God's authority, hereditary nobility and divine kingship are treated as genuine political principles.

The peasantry had a few unsuccessful uprisings sure but being tied to the land? miss me with that shit, I'll go wherever I please



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>elon musk was born jun 28 1971 and has been alive roughly 1.73 billion seconds
>elon musk as of may 2026 has a net worth of 788 billion dollars
>elon musk has roughly $455 for every second he has been alive

classcucks will say he "earned" that. lmfao. that every second of his life, his genius brain innovates 455 dollars into his pocket.

can a person really "earn" that much or can they only get lucky and maybe also position themselves properly in a fundamentally exploitative system? some of you will no doubt answer that he "earned" it for the sake of provocative contrarianism
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>>2840209
Your answer to fixing capitalism is to btfo the rate of profit?

>>2855596
It's also just…a crappy movie, like on an objective level. Like REALLY crappy. Cheaply made, barely existent plot, mary sue protagonist and antagonists are all dumb as rocks. It's somehow bad enough that the boys over at TV Tropes are seriously considering this for the So Bad Its Horrible category, which if you're a work of political propaganda essentially means you've somehow managed to fail to appeal to even your core audience

shameful and shameless, a pea-brained yanqui
could only profess, yet another lefty
a half-thought mess, verily the OP
hasten and confess, thy really Bernie

>>2855596
Uwe Boll knew exactly what he's been doing and has been doing it for 27 years at least

>>2884206
>if you point out this american boer has more money than the entire country of yemen despite basically never working, it means you are a succdem



 

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>>2884172
coal

>>2884084
Well, he is a landlord with Emirati characteristics

>>2884196
why are you people always so obsessed with trans people? it was weird when it was just half of you constantly sperging out over them, but there isn't a single rightoid nowadays who can go more than 5 seconds without seething over them

>>2884205
Im obbssesed by them too. Because they are cute.

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>>2884127
>>2884127
>unrelated
So according to you, nazis, ethnosupremacists, that above all detested, Jews, Gypsies and Slavs and carried away the mass execution and genocide of these groups, shouldn't have faced any pushback and these groups didn't need to fight back?
Do you understand the implication of what you illiterate reply entails?
Or is it being contrarian a flex so important to you you need to show how sociopathic can you be in the process of championing that contrarianism?
Before you reply, understand the relationship of what's said, and why China doesn't need to invade India or Pakistan
Because:

>Their governments aren't ideologically ethnosupremacist that see China as their main race to kill

>>2884208
Hey comrade. Can you do me a solid? I am far away from my desktop. Field work today. Can you bake a new bread!

Thanks man.



>>2883573
Xi has not ruled out military force in regards to Taiwan, Japan, India, etc.
I think most people in China accept that a war with Japan is very likely.



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99.9999% of fights on leftypol are over whether the top pic or the bottom pic is true.

https://strawpoll.com/GeZARkvDRyV

So which is it leftypol?

1: The 1st world bourgeoisie and 1st world workers are trying to crush the 3rd world bourgeoisie and the 3rd world workers

2: The 1st world bourgeoisie and 3rd world bourgeoisie are trying to crush the 1st world workers and the 3rd world workers
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>>2881303
Truke of the highest caliber

Still using cold war terms is so cringe

>>2883908
we're gonna VOTE VOTE VOTE
it's our moment
you know together we're voting
gonna be gonna be voting
WOAH OH OH

>>2883919
people use it interchangeably to refer to the level of development of a country, and to its "NATO vs. BRICS" (cold war 2) alignment.

>>2884052
do the toilets in NATO countries magically clean themselves?



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For marxists, communism is the general movement of the proletariat establishing a new mode of production for itself by overcoming the existing capitalist relations of productions (i.e. wage labor, for-profit production etc).
Every mode of production implies the existence of one group (or class) imposing its set of rules and norms upon the fores of production to realize their ambitions.

As such, feudalism emerged from the centralized empires of Antiquity by having familial clans overcome the ancient empire's armies and taking control over the agrarian and territory-based MoP. These clans later dispersed and broke down into hundreds of personal domains belonging to individuals.
The bourgeoisie managed to overcome the arbitraryness of the previous MoP by first fleeing into cities, and afterwards by pushing for the rationalization of the State's institutions to protect their property rights.

But what can the communist movement hope to achieve ? All of the previous MoP could not create to the same degree that capitalism does the fake consciousness. None of the previous bureaucratic-military apparatus could control the entirety of the population through technological means enabling mass surveillance, psychological warfare, complete control over the information etc.

The 20th century had the unique possibility of creating a mass communist movement but failed spectacularly. The average person is incapable of dissociating the worst excesses of ML regimes from the broader communist movement. Economics are completely dominated by implicit bourgeois norms. Firms have been overtaking very slowly the State to be more "efficient" without even having to answer which normative goal they aim to accomplish by being more "efficient". It seems impossible for us to realistically try to recreate the conditions necessary for a revolution. And lastly, all of the alt-left movement like the Zapatistas or Rojava failed because they were incapable of adapting to the modern conditions of the capitalist MoP.

So, what are you guys thought and predictions on the future ? I don't want to doompost but I just don't see a viable alternative for the future than more neoliberalism until firms come to overpower the State and recreate feudal relations with their employees. The 20th century was our only shot and we blew it.
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>>2884051
That’s because a union doesn’t exist to overthrow anything, it exists to get more money and benefits for itself and its members, those got broken along with any and all communist parties in sufficiently industrialized countries. They only managed to pull it off in places with a large peasantry or in the colonies where the bourgeois was either weak or could unite with the communists to cast out compradors and imperialist bourgeois.

2. Conservative or Bourgeois Socialism
>A part of the bourgeoisie is desirous of redressing social grievances in order to secure the continued existence of bourgeois society. To this section belong economists, philanthropists, humanitarians, improvers of the condition of the working class, organisers of charity, members of societies for the prevention of cruelty to animals, temperance fanatics, hole-and-corner reformers of every imaginable kind. This form of socialism has, moreover, been worked out into complete systems. We may cite Proudhon’s Philosophie de la Misère as an example of this form. The Socialistic bourgeois want all the advantages of modern social conditions without the struggles and dangers necessarily resulting therefrom. They desire the existing state of society, minus its revolutionary and disintegrating elements. They wish for a bourgeoisie without a proletariat. The bourgeoisie naturally conceives the world in which it is supreme to be the best; and bourgeois Socialism develops this comfortable conception into various more or less complete systems. In requiring the proletariat to carry out such a system, and thereby to march straightway into the social New Jerusalem, it but requires in reality, that the proletariat should remain within the bounds of existing society, but should cast away all its hateful ideas concerning the bourgeoisie. A second, and more practical, but less systematic, form of this Socialism sought to depreciate every revolutionary movement in the eyes of the working class by showing that no mere political reform, but only a change in the material conditions of existence, in economical relations, could be of any advantage to them. By changes in the material conditions of existence, this form of Socialism, however, by no means understands abolition of the bourgeois relations of production, an abolition that can be affected only by a revolution, but administrative reforms, based on the
continued existence of these relations; reforms, therefore, that in no respect affect the relations
between capital and labour, but, at the best, lessen the cost, and simplify the administrative work, of bourgeois government. Bourgeois Socialism attains adequate expression when, and only when, it becomes a mere figure
of speech. Free trade: for the benefit of the working class. Protective duties: for the benefit of the working
class. Prison Reform: for the bPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2884056
*only a section
and i fucked up the formatting

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I think you're treating capitalism's current strength as if it were a permanent feature of history rather than a historical stage. Marx never argued that capitalism would collapse because people simply became convinced by communist arguments. He argued that every mode of production develops contradictions that eventually become too great to manage. Class consciousness is a product of struggle, not a prerequisite for it. Think about it: the Roman peasant did not wake up one morning as a conscious feudalist, and the medieval burgher did not first write liberal theory and then overthrow feudalism. Material development came first, political consciousness developed through conflict, and only afterwards did a new ruling class consolidate its ideology. Why would socialism be the only exception?

I also think you're giving bourgeois ideology too much credit. Yes, capitalist media, surveillance, advertising, and education are vastly more sophisticated than anything previous ruling classes possessed. But they exist precisely because the bourgeoisie cannot simply rely on naked force anymore. Their ideological apparatus is not evidence of invincibility; it is evidence of constant maintenance. A stable ruling class does not need to spend billions manufacturing consent every year.

As for the 20th century, I don't think "we blew our only shot" is a Marxist conclusion. The Russian Revolution happened in one of Europe's least-developed capitalist countries, after a world war had shattered the state. The Chinese Revolution emerged from semi-colonial conditions. Neither represented the mature capitalist societies Marx expected to become socialist first. Their successes and failures should therefore be analyzed concretely, not mythologized either positively or negatively. People also overestimate the permanence of capitalist legitimacy. In 1900, monarchy looked eternal. In 1985, the USSR looked permanent. In 2005, globalization looked unstoppable. History repeatedly humiliates predictions of permanence.

The real question is not "why aren't workers revolutionary?" but "what objective conditions produce revolutionary organization?" Right now, the working class is fragmented, international capital is highly mobile, unions are weak in many countries, and communist parties are either marginal or revisionist. Those are organizational problems, not proof that capitalism has transcended its contradictions. Ironically, many of the tendencies you describe are Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2884033
>labor aristocrats
ok porky



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The Hamas leadership knew what the consequences would be, yet they pursued their course anyway. They understood that Israel was winning and that it was normalizing its relationships with the Arab world. In time the Palestinians people would have been pushed aside politically and culturally.

The attack, the suffering, and everything that followed were the pursuit of the ultimate act of propaganda of the dead. It was never about winning. it was about showing the world the subhumanity of Israel. They sacrificed their own people, their sons and themselves. The strength to do it and the will to carry it through are something sacred.
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>>2884004
Yes and that's because Hamas didn't plan to die in a blaze of glory. They remained committed and endured suffering.

>>2884005
At least the IDF are bleeding in Lebanon and Syria

>>2883987
The mfs that say that "western leftists" have christian ideals and love martyrs and losers then turn around and suck off islamist losers lmao.

Islamists ᴉuᴉlossnWs dying like dogs. Damn, like real ᴉuᴉlossnW.

>>2884035
I hate Western leftists and I do not think that Western leftists have Christian ideals or any ideals for that matter, beyond new left degeneracy. They are worthless degenerates who have done nothing for the world but navelgaze.
>>2884037
Hamas are better socialists then all Western Leftists



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>participates in the destabilisation of the third world in the name of treats
>refugees flee the third world to escape the instability
>they flee to your territory ON THE SAME CONTINENT
>this is somehow the fault of everyone except you and your friends
eurocuck moment
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You morns really don't understand this is going to accelerate the collapse of the left and the rise of Caudioism

>>2883968
There isn't and hasn't been a "left" movement for over 30 years now. Not even a rise of it.

You morns really don't understand this is going to accelerate the collapse of the left and the rise of Caudioism

>>2883870
how the fuck is this zionist

>>2883978
look into it



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