/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

ethical rich… Engels, Jenny Marx, etc…

>>2839652
>muh elon
Personalism

>>2839652
There’s a level of wealth inequality that is inevitable in even the strictest egalitarian command economy. It’s not bad to get rewards for working harder/more expeditiously, but it has to be done so with guardrails, and must be strictly merit based.

Frankly a wealth cap seems like a dumb solution, we should just have a tax system so exponentially progressive that it becomes functionally impossible to gain into the billions of dollars. Holy shit there are so many avenues the government still has open to be able to plunder these bastards fortunes it would be too easy with real power in America. Too bad that only comes from the barrel of a gun.

>>2839736
This is nonsensical because your logic would apply to any workplace a d its politics. If you are a prole, you are exploited, it is that simple.

>>2841013
he's a good focus for agitprop because he has 577 dollars for every second he's been alive. like literally try to corner someone and ask if it's possible to earn that through hard work. ask them in front of a room of people. if they try to justify it they will just look like a stupid ass bootlicker.

>>2838029
the freikorps are dead and so are no longer evolving. the very fact that people can only bring posts from 3 years ago exposes everything we need to know

>>2838008
> "yes we are bigots." "LGBT imperialism." "Call us nazis." what is the usefulness of that other than just triggering people and getting views?
Trying to work up his own following into a froth.

>>2838047
so is the implication that he no longer stands by his own opinions from 3 years ago?

>>2837660
Integralism is just Puritanism/Jacobinism wanting a Republic of Virtue reskinned as Catholic. It's the same shining city on a hill stuff.

>>2838089
of course he does, that other guy just agrees and thinks it's based to scapegoat the FAGGOTS and the TREWNZ for what the evangelical zionists did

AOC's hot streak on endorsements divides the left
While Sanders has endorsed dozens of progressive candidates up and down ballots across the country this year, Ocasio-Cortez has been more choosy.
Some on the left say she's being overly cautious, and reluctant to support progressives who are taking on her Democratic colleagues in the House.
https://www.axios.com/2026/06/14/aoc-endorsements-democrats-winning
https://archive.ph/ZKI1u

No Crocs or baby onesies - the draconian Delaney Hall dress code ICE uses to deem toddlers ‘too provocative’
In one such visit, a guard nearly rejected them because of Soto’s 11-month-old’s onesie, she said. On another occasion, she told the Guardian, Delaney Hall rejected them because Gabriela’s four-year-old daughter was iuyghings. When Gabriela would ask why their clothes weren’t allowed, guards said they were too “provocative”, she said. “How is that provocative if she’s only four years old?” said Gabriela, referring to her daughter.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/15/new-jersey-delaney-hall-immigration-visitor-dress-code

California Gov. Gavin Newsom says Trump’s Justice Department is investigating him and his wife
A person familiar with the matter denied the existence of an investigation specifically targeting the governor, but said there are multiple federal probes into people around him, including one related to his wife’s taxes. That probe began last year, and political leadership in Washington was not involved in the decision to open it, said the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss ongoing investigations.
https://apnews.com/article/newsom-trump-justice-department-a9e5bd1f8c2906c23bd68f3e5b6b3f2f

ICE agent shoots at vehicle after being struck by car, officials in New Jersey say
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Errico Malatesta: Let’s Demolish — and then?
I say that to abolish the gendarmerie, and baleful social institutions of whatever kind, we need to know what we want to replace them with — not in a more or less distant future but now, the very same day the demolition work begins. You cannot really destroy, and permanently, without having what we put in its place. To postpone to a later date the solution to the urgent problems that arise would be to give a breathing space to those same institutions that we want to abolish, to recover from tie received blow and to re-impose themselves once more, perhaps under other names but certainly the same in essence. Our solutions will be accepted by a sufficiently large section of the population and we shall have created anarchy, or at least made a step towards it. Or it may be that they will not have been understood and accepted and in that case our work will serve as propaganda, and will be placed before the general public as the program for the near future. But in any case, we must have our solutions: provisional solutions, no doubt; ones that can be revised and modified in the light of experience, but necessary if we do not wish to endure passively the solutions of others, limiting ourselves to the hardly useful role of grumblers who are both incapable and impotent.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/malatesta/1926/lets-demolish.html

Statement of the European Communist Action on the 2026 G7 Summit, which is dangerous for the interests of the people
The main leaders of the Euro-Atlantic capitalist bloc will meet at the G7 Summit, to be held in Évian, France, from 15 to 17 June 2026, to update capitalist arrangements regarding energy, which is highly costly for the peoples, the so-called security and anti-people governance. The 2026 G7 summit will take place in the context of efforts to halt the consolidation of the capitalist bloc led by China, thanks to its capitalist development, which, in alliance with Russia, is challenging the United States for the status of leading economic power. The European Communist Action condemns the anti-worker and anti-popular orientation and policies of the bourgeois governments of the G7, NATO and the European Union which, amidst the growing contradictions and tensions between major capitalist Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

thank you based news anon 😍️

>rights
if the bourgeoisie give you "rights" they can also take them away
>end borders
>no human is illegal
not possible under capitailsm

OP is peak liberal idealist nonsense. Read a book.

>>2804361
why are "liberal" Liberals so fucking smug?

socialism is when you produce things privately so you can exchange them for equivalents on the market

>>2804361
Command economy=State capitalism=fascism=capitalism in decay
They didn't lose they just revived capitalism and outgrew it's usefulness to rehabilitate the economy.

>>2840465
Yank cuck wants to throw stones

>>2804361
<This history of socialism shows, with perfect clarity, that a fully planned economy is plainly inferior to a socialist market economy. This is not to say that fully planned economies are bad, they absolutely do have their strengths. But economies that are partially planned, directed rather than dictated, have all of the same strengths, while being infinitely more flexible. The socialism of then may have raised millions out of poverty, but it was the socialism of now century that raised them into luxury, luxury greater than anything the capitalist world has ever been able to provide. Western "Marxists" are fucking obsessed with the idea of command economies. Half of them say that AES states are not actually socialist; this is wrong. The other half says that AES states have only temporarily adopted markets, and will return to the Golden Path as soon as possible; this is also wrong, and much more egregiously so, be because it requires ignorance of and/or cognitive dissonance towards the official statements and actions made by these nations. Western "Marxist" arguments in favor of command economies are, likewise generally rooted in ignorance, not understanding that the lifestyles they have/aspire to would be unfeasible within a purely planned system. Those that are not rooted in ignorance are instead rooted in aceticism, in poverty worship, in an intellectual cancer that must be rooted out by whatever means necessary. Sure, we may, at some point, obviate markets. But it would require a fundamental change in the means of production that, by my calculations, is far, far away from where we are now. In any case, you would do yourself well to stop worshipping the corpses of Stalin and Mao and join the rest of us in the 21st century.
OP regardless of China its not really true that planned economies are worse and in any case computers are advanced enough now to have a fully planned economy was more efficient and better than the USSR ever did, and doing a market economy in 202X let alone after is opportunism. The fundamental change you sought was already completed arguably in the 80s/90s its just that the USSR already got taken over by revisionists and lost interest in planned economies and communism in general by then

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<INDEP online Talk with Leone – On Defining and Measuring Human Needs with Democratic Planning
>This is a recording of our online event with Leone on Defining and Measuring Human Needs with Democratic Planning, which was held on June 9th 2026.
>You can find the description below:
>Meeting social needs with democratic planning requires that we learn how to see and define those needs, and that we institutionalize such learning processes in postcapitalist governance. In this presentation, Leone explores some meditations on the politics of measurements and their role in planning processes in a postcapitalist world, with a focus on democratic investment planning. The essay upon which this presentation is based seeks to articulate some of the core political problems around measurements which we must design real-world interventions to solve. He invites scrutiny and feedback on his current essay draft, which can be found on the discord server of the Econophysics community: https://fbi.gov/invite/9jZYkRYYWA
>INDEP - The International Network for Democratic Economic Planning
our website: https://www.indep.network/
>We are an international network of workers, students, researchers, and activists, who share the common goal of advancing a post-capitalist economic system based on democratic economic planning.
>You can join INDEP as a member (as individual or as organization), subscribe to our newsletter, share news and events from the world of democratic economic planning. If you are interested in organizing an event with INDEP yourself or want to get involved otherwise feel free to reach out to us via [email protected].

>>2839910
>wordfilter changed discord link to fbi.gov
lel

Brandon Lee responding to the Jacglowbin article on planning

>>2841343
thanks

Don't forget China also raped Vietnam

>>2840751
It's actually an analysis by Ben Kiernan I believe. He was a scholar of the region. So he should his stuff.

>>2841258
*knows his stuff.

>>2834210
>The country in the Balkans that hates NATO and doesn't have trouble with their communist past is Serbia.
That's not entirely true, though. Serbia has this nationalist četnik cult, which is pretty reactionary nad anticommunist.

>>2834507
the chetniks worked with the communists you fucking retard

>>2834523
They also worked with the Nazis.

>>2834430
every revolution is a colour revolution

Landback is just a petty bourgeois demand for land that comes more from those who don't live on any reservations. The pb types try to argue that landback would give the chance for people to start buisnesses as a solution to indigenous poverty.

>>2840302
>>land back for people with darker shade of skin
>>Amazing
>>Land Back for lighter toned skin
>>Reactionary shitlords

the aboslute state of modern leftism

>>2840296
Reform isn't inherently bad in itself. The problem is that liberalism wants to redirect worker power so that it only seeks ever shifting reforms and never achieves socialism. It's just a carrot they dangle in front of people. A carrot they can move closer or pull away at will in order to keep workers in line.
As for the Landback people, once you pull away all the post-colonialist academic talk, they are just nationalists. And if they ever get their way they will just stab communists in the back exactly the same way most nationalist movements did in the 20th century. Fundamentally they only see leftists as useful idiots.

the biggest obsticle for anarchists is not the state but rather the fact that they are just really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really reallyreally really really really really realy lame

>>2839647
Zionazis explicitly say Israel is their holy land and belong to them according to the Torah.