/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2580116
>radiation
cures CO2 pollution
>nuclear winter
reverses global warming

>>2580116
Most areas not directly hit by nukes would not have radiation levels high enough to be a direct threat beyond way higher cancer rates in the future, and most hit areas would go back to safer levels after 2 months. From his point of view nuclear winter would force the remaining humans to band together because they would be forced too in a post nuclear world for survival, because the only other option would be death. Though I don't understand how he thinks it would result in socialist communities forming after when I think things would just return to feudalism instead at that point.

>>2580089
Destroying the productive forces is something the capitalists do 🙄.
Communists support the development of the productive forces.

>>2580364
Capitalists' fault for imbuding their mode of production into literally every facet of society, They literally left us no other option. The world will be debased and scoured as the losers claim their prize.

why was posadas so based

>>2579981
>>2579840
Mods ban these falsifiers NOW!

>>2580844
The mods are falsifiers howeverbeit

>>2580605
The sad thing is that if you read marx its pretty clear he’s commenting on the revolutionary and militant working class movements that existed a long time before he ever entered politics and which all of european society was being forced to respond to

>>2579840
>>2579840
>Working class and proletariat do not mean exactly the same.
Nationalist, retard

>>2579375
>>2580605
>>2585598
IMO the simple answer is that the bourgeoisie were still largely historically progressive at the time. Marx was a visionary but the transition from the bourgeoisie to the proletariat as the revolutionary subject was a process that has taken much longer than Marx expected. I think that today the proletariat are the revolutionary subject much more than they were in the past.

>>2552861
>What a pathetic person you are. You're probably a millennial. No in fact I know for certain that you are.
i hate genpol so much lol

Tailism

cultural dissemination, you wouldn't get it old man

>>2561149
Because they are stupid and overused and there doesn't need to be a soy/chudjak board.

>>2565436
I sort of had a anti-SJW Phase, but I came into it thinking that the ideology of SJWs were more similar to Puritanism/American Christianity than anything else (especially the whole anti-sex/anti-sexual expression/anti-porn wing of feminism). And how SJWs were the unwitting "useful idiots" of corporations, who didn't realize that the corporations were only using "diversity" as a cynical advertising/marketing scheme that wouldn't actually improve the conditions for minorities and women.

I mainly disagreed with Sarkessian because I was under the impression that if video games don't cause violence, then they also don't cause sexism. That and I thought she was just another "Jack Thompson" type of grifter trying to make yet another moral panic over video games like the Satanic Panic in the 1980's with DnD.

Is Italy tired of fascists again for a few more years, or is Meloni still seen as the zionist queen who will make the country great again?

>>2547558
Everything is going to shit even quicker and worst than usual. Just to give some perspective. In 2024 the PPP per capita average income was 95% of what it was in 2008, the year of the whole Lehman Brothers world financial clusterfuck and then the turbo-austerity on the 2010s. Aside from Greece, which is in even deeper shit, it's the worse result compared to every other euro-poor country. And things are crap everywhere, but they are just atrocious here.
I guess I have to come up with one of my ebin efforposts, but I guess I have to send a letter tonight. I'll try to come up with something for our beloved international anons anyway. If it's not tonight, it's gonna be tomorrow.
Btw, Georgia Malhoney is usually high on coke when she goes out in public.

What happening with this https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/italy-braces-two-national-strikes-union-rivalry-heats-up-2025-11-11/

>>2563442
CGIL is the biggest and oldest union, but they're one of the main causes of the current salary stagnation in Italy.
It's also stuffed with boomers and retirees, they don't give a fuck.

eeeh ma il PD

The UAE is buying the West's silence over its 'race war' in Sudan, says top general

Lieutenant General Yasser al-Atta, a member of Sudan’s governing Sovereignty Council and the military’s second in command, told journalists that UAE President Mohammed bin Zayed has launched a race war against the Sudanese people.

“They entered people’s houses in Khartoum and other cities. They loot and destroy everything: hospitals, electricity, water supply, everything that keeps people alive,” he said.

But Atta said the “world has been silent regarding all the RSF has done in Sudan” despite “social media and technological tools” which enabled the paramilitaries’ crimes to be seen and understood.

The reason, stated Atta, is that “this silence was bought by the power of the UAE’s money”.

“As a result of the world not watching, mercenaries were imported to our country and the UAE were allowed to do it,” he said.

MEE has previously detailed how the UAE has transported Colombian mercenaries to the RSF through an air base in Somalia.

Atta said the paramilitaries have hired fighters from as far afield as Ukraine, too, as well as African countries such as Niger, Mali, Chad and South Sudan.
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Apparently the number of people butchered in Al-Fasher is 60,000 as a low estimate:

https://uk-crime.co.uk/sarah-champion-2025-speech-on-gaza-and-sudan/

So this is the multipolarity that was promised

The UAE's strategy is to create interdependence on global, often conflicting power players in order to carve out its little colonialist enterprises in Africa and Yemen. So they submit to US military dominance in the gulf, help Russia avoid sanctions and just signed a new trade deal with China. They also offer a safe haven for oligarch money. This way they can fund this arab supremacist, genocidal RSF and no one tells them to stop

>>2584404
60 000 dead 150 000 missing.

>>2573816
Насчет потреблядства.
1. Там был вопрос про экологию в том числе. И говорить: ну, мы не за аскетизм и Маркс выступал против этого… в очках мужик верно в конце высказался, смотрел вчера и уже не помню.
2. вопрос еще в том, что от этого зависит сколько нужно работать по времени. И мне кажется, что если кто-то хочет быть потреблядью, ок. Но у меня должна быть возможность работать меньше. Он хочет, пусть и работает сколько ему нужно. Мне кажется такой ответ гораздо точнее и прощее, если кроме меня с этим кто-то еще согласен. Особенно учитвая, что сейчас нет возможности работать меньше.
3. и это не простой вопрос. Не про аскетизм.. Есть инженерные подходы: должно просто и понятно, тип KISS. И т.п.
4. потреблядство, это не потому что маркетинг, ну или не всегда.

>>2583369
А, еще: вопрос, можно ли работать меньше? Но ведь это вопрос не будущего, он сейчас стоит.

А вот в будущем; а вот люди изменятся; ..

Если ты боишься сказать: будет что-то вроде права работать не более 4 ч в день, а кто хочет, пусть больше работает. То тем самым ты говоришь, что принуждение к труду остается даже там, где труд не производит необходимые вещи.

Гарантия от производителя

Where are the russian protests against the involvement of their state in the Sudan genocide?

>>2584574
There was no genocide if the US thinks there was.
That's dialectical materialism, liberal.

>>2585319
>Elimination of judges and the judiciary, with juries presiding over cases
based

>hexayurt
you vill live in ze hive und produce ze honey

>>2585520
t. never been out to the country and slept in freezing cold and drafty houses or alternatively been out in the country with no power when it's more than 90 degrees inside.

>>2585542
I like the idea of the hexayurt. tbh I was just bumping this thread because I found it interesting

>>2577446
marx was a revisionist

>>2577570
yeah, he revised utopian socialism into scientific socialism.

>>2577894
truth nuke

>>2584968
Yeah, closest you can mangling material analysis into an ontology is that one anon's jingle of "only that which matters exists for all intents and purposes," but that's not even close to something Marx said, that's just a new idea.

>>2584290
we have failed the children

>>2584259
>Which is the real and correct way of material analysis?
That's not how knowledge works. The only certainty is that certainty is impossible. There's always a chance that you're completely wrong about everything, always a chance that there's important information that you're simply unaware of. Ultimately, what you believe what you believe because it feels correct to you, because it feels sensible and obvious, and/or fits in well with other things that you feel are sensible and obvious. And at any point, a new piece of key information can introduce itself and topple everything you thought you knew.

As an aside, it's funny to see rightoids get angry when you say this, because it's the only real non-moral justification for freedom of speech.

>>2584259
The good thing about materialism and science is that when we don't have enough data to reach a conclusion, we just admit "we don't know" and continue to investigate that matter further. No bullshittery about how it's a "mystery" or "God did it" or rules against blasphemy for asking questions.
Unless you think I'm painting idealists too harshly here, please remember the Catholic church burnt Copernicus at the stake for suggesting a Heliocentric solar system, and threatened Galileo with the same - only to subject him to a life in house arrest when he recanted. And even then, the church only accepted the Heliocentric model as late as in *1993*.
Besides, idealists themselves are fundamentally split between those who admit a physical reality exists and those who are affectively solipsistic.
If you as an idealist accept that a material reality exists, then you are still left with the same question as materialists on how the world physically operates, because if your God/s made material reality then your God/s must also create a model of physics by which it functions.
And if alternatively you are the type of idealist to deny there is any material reality whatsoever, then you are in a position where you are unable to prove anything at all is truly real beyond your own thoughts, so the question of physical laws is a nonsense and the nature of reality becomes a topic that is not possibly knowable.

>>2584259
>the real and correct way of material analysis?
idk, but Einstein was interested in Spinoza, so his dialectics is probably a good start.
>No teleology answers.
<Teleology is the broad concept of purpose or final cause (a future goal causes present action), often linked to philosophy or divine intent, while teleonomy (coined by Pittendrigh/Mayr) describes the apparent purpose in biological systems, explained by evolved genetic programs and mechanisms (like evolution/natural selection), not a conscious designer or future-driven cause, making it scientifically testable. In short: Teleology = "Why" (ultimate purpose); Teleonomy = "How" (evolved function/mechanism)
Systems and process based thinking is the new paradigm

FAA launches investigation into US airlines over flight cuts ordered during the shutdown
The FAA warned in letters sent Monday that the airlines could face fines of up to $75,000 for each flight over the mandated reductions, which fluctuated between 3%, 4%, and 6%. The airlines have 30 days to provide documentation showing they complied with the order, the agency said Friday in a statement.
https://apnews.com/article/airlines-compliance-faa-flight-cuts-shutdown-237932ba7053accf04c77c1367666947

DoJ moves to eliminate sexual abuse protections for LGBTQ+ people in prisons
A justice department memo issued on Tuesday said “effective immediately”, prisons and jails will no longer be held responsible for violations of standards meant to shield LGBTQ+ people from harassment, abuse and rape. It also directed inspectors to stop auditing facilities for compliance with those protections. The justice department is in the process of seeking formal updates to the rules, the memo said.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/05/doj-prison-lgbtq-sexual-abuse-protections

A nationwide internet age verification plan is sweeping Congress
The new approach to age verification orders mobile app stores to verify users’ ages, then send that information to apps when users download them. The idea has been around for a while, but it was just this year that the first of these laws was passed in Utah, quickly followed by versions in several other states. On Tuesday, it appeared in Congress as part of a package of kids safety legislation as the App Store Accountability Act (ASA), earlier introduced by Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) and Rep. John James (R-MI).
https://www.theverge.com/policy/830877/app-store-age-verification-act-pinterest-endorsement
https://archive.ph/P0VLH

Democrat announces articles of impeachment against Hegseth
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991 - Occupation: Public Figure feat. Seth Harp (12/1/25) (Chapo Trap House)
Author and journalist Seth Harp returns for an interview about the National Guard shooting in D.C. We analyze the accused shooter, his time in covert “Zero Units,” and we also speculate about the ramifications of Pete Hegseth’s double-tap order in the Caribbean. To close things out, Will and Felix talk about Bari Weiss’s plan to return America to the reasonable center and react to the viral Oklahoma University essay on why God made man and woman different.
https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/991-occupation-public-figure-feat-seth-harp-12125

Starmer’s current chief of staff, Morgan McSweeney, served as the head of a machine that targeted media outlets on the left and right, foreshadowing the UK’s crackdown on dissent.
As Keir Starmer rose to power in Britain, the political machine responsible for his rise ran a behind-the-scenes campaign to demonetize the U.S. news outlet Breitbart. The attacks on Breitbart were part of a targeted campaign against media outlets on both the left and right considered hostile to the centrist faction of the Labour Party, according to a trove of documents that expose the operation. Many of the documents were revealed for the first time in my recent book – called “The Fraud: Keir Starmer, Morgan McSweeney and the Crisis of British Democracy” – and are expanded on significantly there. The campaign succeeded in effectively destroying the left-wing British outlet The Canary, which is only now recovering. Breitbart News persists. The project was run through an organization called Stop Funding Fake News (SFFN). SFFN was incubated and resourced by a think-tank called Labour Together under the guise of fighting misinformation and “fake news.” Between 2018 and 2020, the anodyne-seeming think-tank received £739,000 in donations that it failed to report to the UK Electoral Commission, in violation of electoral law. Labour Together was found guilty and fined in September 2021 for the offense. Morgan McSweeney, now Sir Keir Starmer’s chief of staff, was Labour Together’s company secretary during this period. He also listed himself on LinkedIn as Labour Together’s “Managing Director.” In October 2024, the prominent UK journalist Andrew Marr commentedPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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