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They get nowhere enough hate as they deserve for what they're doing in Kashmir……Also, Being ruled by a repressive fascist wanna be regime for the last decade
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>>2864187
India arguably had one of the most ineffective government policies in history. Even the most corrupt Latin caudillos were more productive than what India achieved under this system. It effectively combined the worst aspects of capitalism, feudalism and state planning into a single economic model.

>>2864189
> assume that the Taliban are just being tricked into taking these actions
Damn dude, didn't know Pakistanis are this retarded.

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>>2864127
>At least the Arabs when they talk about Israel and Iran working together have some internal logic: they distinguish between their own interests and their enemies. In Pakistan every rift between Muslim countries has to be the work of Mossad, RAW, or the CIA, because the idea that Muslims might disagree on their own is apparently unimaginable.
I think the fall of Assad and Jolani taking power in Syria is an example of this. There were a lot of CIA/Mossad narratives about this here on leftypol that remind me of what you're talking about, not factoring the idea of Sunni Arab interests and doing realpolitik around that as a distinct thing. Not saying any particular position or geopolitical orientation is good, but just as a descriptive statement of what's happening and the logic behind it.

When you do realpolitik you have some differences but you have some areas where you overlap and work to create some kind of balance. For Jolani, getting in with the U.S. makes sense because he gets the sanctions off and gets the electricity working. The U.S. isn't doing this because of some morality play, it wants to turn Syria into a buffer state between Israel and Turkey (which is to the benefit of the U.S. as the hegemon), and has also deduced that the Turkish deep state also sees this as in in their interests. But the Israelis have been too retard stupid to understand this, they have a completely weird paranoia such that Iran was turfed out of Syria, but now here come the Turks oh my God and there's an Al Qaeda guy running it and their immediate reaction is to escalate against this THREAT. But they don't realize that this creates a self-fulfilling prophecy that will bumble them into a direct conflict with Turkey which is the one country close to them which they really don't want to get into some shit with. I'm convinced Trump and co. sat down with the Israelis are were like you morons don't know what the hell you're doing.

From the Arab perspective, I don't know how much it takes on the form of a conspiracy theory about Israel and Iran working together (because I don't read Arabic and I'm not plugged into how Arabs talk about it that much), but even though Israel and Iran are enemies they do have a shared interest in being able to project power through Syria and Jolani is an obstacle to that, and thaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2864282
They are about as retarded as most people in third world countries, what's unque to them is they hold an ideological belief that the ummah stands above all else. This is the central foundation on which Pakistan is built and it is seen as something that cannot be compromised. Otherwise, Pakistan would have to redefine itself and confront the very basis of its political existence.

>>2859259
yeah both sides are bad: random civilians in kashmir and the indian government



 

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/12395.html
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>>2861878
The Kims were right to not let go of their nukes, if they had, they would've been Venezuela'd by now. Then again, I suppose being in China's backyard is also a defense.

>vidrel
<Is America's North Korea Policy Out of Touch with Reality?
Rightist observer who's written recently about how the US DPRK policy has been an abject failure mostly based on false presumptions.
>>2862199
Sir. This is a discussion about trvvkes.

Let us guarantee the victorious march of the revolution with robust discipline and strict legal order.
Report on the joint party, government, and military meeting
(Pyongyang, July 11, Korean Central News Agency)
The dignity and strength of our Party and State, which steadfastly shoulder the destiny and future of the people and realize the most righteous mission and great historical cause, are founded on strict national laws and a robust system of discipline.

The 9th Congress of the Workers' Party of Korea set forth ensuring unity of action and establishing strong discipline throughout socialist construction as the primary requirements of the times, and the laws of the Republic are directing the spearhead of a resolute struggle against acts of special privileges, special treatment, and corruption that destroy the foundation of our revolution and erode the socialist state system.

At a time when the entire party and the entire people are fully committed to implementing the decisions of the Party Congress, a joint meeting of the party, government, and military was held in Pyongyang on July 10 to sound the alarm against all kinds of counter-revolutionary, anti-socialist, and anti-people acts running counter to this, and to signal the deepening of an intense struggle.

The respected General Secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea and Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea Kim Jong UnComrade attended the joint conference.

Leading officials of the Party, government, and armed forces, commanders of the Korean People's Army at all levels, responsible officials of ministries, central agencies, Party and government agencies, major factories and enterprises, and officials of discipline investigation departments and legal agencies participated in the joint meeting.

The meeting addressed the issue of finding serious lessons from the crimes of corrupt elements within the political organs of the People's Army who committed massive acts of corruption.

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>>2863930
>Park Hee-chol
Anyone know who this Park Hee-chol is who is getting fucking dragged in this meeting?

>>2863930
>Kim Jong UnComrade
you don't need to use a lame AI translation when there is an official English translation.
http://rodong.rep.kp/en/index.php?OEAyMDI2LTA3LTExLTAwOEAxQEBAMUAx

Let Us Guarantee Victorious Advance of Revolution by Strong and Sound Order and Strict Legal Discipline
Report on Joint Meeting of Party, Government and Army of DPRK

The Workers’ Party of Korea and the DPRK are carrying out the most righteous mission and great historic cause, taking full responsibility for the destiny and future of the people. Their prestige and mightiness are based on the strict national law and strong and sound discipline system.

The Ninth Congress of the WPK put forward it as the foremost requirement of the times to ensure the complete unity of action and establish the strong discipline in socialist construction as a whole. And the state law of the DPRK is directing the spearhead of resolute struggle against the acts of exercising privilege, abusing power and resorting to illegalities and corruption which destroy the basis of the Korean revolution and erode socialist state system.

A joint meeting of the Party, the government and the army took place in Pyongyang on July 10 to give a warning to all sorts of anti-revolutionary, anti-socialist, anti-people acts going against the trend of the times when the whole Party and the entire people are going all out for implementing the decisions of the Party congress, and signify the intensified high-intensity struggle.

The respected Comrade Kim Jong Un, General Secretary of the Workers’ Party of Korea and President of the State Affairs of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, attended the joint meeting.
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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Treat-odomor Edition


OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
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>>2864732
State run enterprises can be awful, but you know what you do? Tighten the screws, discipline the leadsrship

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>>2864704
“Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track 2.3 trillion dollars in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building. Because it's stored on dozens of different technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible.” - Donald Rumsfeld, 1 day before 9/11

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>>2864102
dat lumpen does not appreciate robotization, I can tell you 'what

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I HATE U GUYS, I HOPE U DIE



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Why are so many modern communists obsessed with liberal concept of indigenous rights? When communists dont believe in land ownership or inheritance.

>Body too short

>Body too short
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>>2864622
Does the sky being blue require a source you fucking asshole?

>>2864622
>I wanted to see if the discussion actually lead anywhere
well it could if you put as much effort into answering my questions as i put into answering your questions, but your brain won't let you.
>>2864626
don't let this anon get under your skin

>>2864643
>well it could if you put as much effort into answering my questions
Your questions were shit and required more context you failed to provide.
>>2864626
The sky is not relevant to this discussion, so no.

>>2864594
I agree that you can't just sweep things under the rug, but by definition if you have universal equal rights to employment, housing, education, etc combined with socialist relations of production then by definition you can't "reproduce those same relations" of settler colonialism and slavery. That's just a huge exaggeration. At most you might have lingering discrimination in some areas, but even just removing the capitalist basis of the economy would dramatically improve the conditions of oppressed nations in America.

>>2864691
>Your questions were shit and required more context you failed to provide.

for those who haven't read the entire conversation, these were the questions


>if you suffer a traumatic brain injury, are you the same person as before? I say no. Do you say yes?


>Does your brain produce the same behavioral outputs it would have produced had you not received any brain damage? I say no. Do you say yes?


>Does a person with brain damage process stimuli as quickly and reliably as a person without brain damage?


>I say no. Do you say yes?


>Does a person with brain damage process stimuli and produce outputs as quickly or reliably or accurately as a person without brain damage? I say no. Do you



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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Burgers and Bloodsports Edition


OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/

💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

• ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
• list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
• visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
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>>2833253
>Go to a Christian Church in Korea and you'll find Korean Jesus.
I've never seen Korean Jesus whats he look like?

>>2833243
Fred Hampbeautiful lady😍🥰

michael harringbeautiful lady😍🥰

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Any predictions for the outcome of the 2026 American midterm elections?

Any socialists on the ballot?

Any guesses as to how the redistributing/gerrymandering issue will play into things?

How do you think issues like Trump’s wars, the tariffs, ICE raids, Black issues, Medicare For All, the climate, voting rights, abortion, trans issues, autistic/neurodivergent issues, and Palestine will affect the outcome? For instance, are we seeing a split in the Democrats over Palestine and other foreign policy issues?
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>>2817147
but North Carolina might become communist in the u.s senate. just wait and see in November.

When Mr. Wilimos debates with Mr. Cooper and Mr. Whatley. It will be here. Stay tuned.

>>2842692
God, if only.

Nirav shah is officially endorsed by Jack wilimos campaign. Let’s see what happens next.

Now, we officially endorse Troy Jackson. May he not disappoint.



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>be Israel
>starts the 1982 Lebanon war over an Israeli ambassador to the UK being shot and injured which Israel blamed on the PLO
>so Israel takes all of Southern Lebanon up to the Litani river and that was when Hezbollah was created while the spineless Lebanese military does nothing
>over the span of 18 years, Hezbollah takes back all of Lebanon by 2000
>after the Israeli withdrawal, they try again in 2006 but get kicked out by Hezbollah again, despite heavy civilian losses
>two years later, after two defeats, Israel launches Operation Cast Lead in Gaza and kills 1,000 people, including 300 children as a message to Iran all over claims of Hamas building a tunnel
>now Israel is trying again with Hezbollah, they are trying to do what David Ben-Gurion talked about for years

Jesus Christ, when will they just fuck off?
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>>2863277
Didn't Iran want the US to invade Iraq?

>>2863502
The Iraq war was anti imperialist war (Iraqi imperialism against wholesome mullahs)


>>2863425
Proof?

>>2863397
I am covenant theology and NIFB. The church has replaced Israel because of the historical context of the law ending in 33 AD with the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and 70 AD with the destruction of the 2nd temple in Jerusalem by Titus Flavius. James says to break one law is to be guilty of all. And what is the wages of sin? DEATH! That's why people sacrificed chickens, goats and oxes for burnt offerings. It covered sins but the blood of sheeps and bulls cannot remove sin. Only the blood, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ can do that. However, I do believe that in the Old Testament, salvation worked differently. The holy spirit wasn't required and when people did receive it, they could lose it. King David even wrote in one of the Psalms take not your holy spirit from me. But in the NT, the holy spirit is required for salvation and once you receive it by believing in the blood, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, you are sealed to the day of redemption. The Bible says they have eternal life. That's PRESENT-TENSE, not future. There is no backsliding. You can still sin, but no one born of God commits sin. That's because they have the holy ghost. Paul even said it is not I that sin but the spirit of sin that lives within me. Your flesh still sins. But some people who make it to Heaven are gonna be left with no rewards after the judgment seat of Christ. That's why you continue in belief and not apostatize so you can be given the crown of life. The Bible says that there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for all are one in Christ Jesus. Obviously, unsaved Israel is not blessed by God. The answer to Genesis 12:5 is Galatians 3:16. It didn't mean God will bless those that bless Israel, it said ABRAHAM'S SEED! Jews butcher the NT. Rabbi Tovias Singer cannot read his own book.



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This seems to be one of the best ways to win over normies. Everyone hates these damn things. Taking down a flock cam is now on the same level of widespread approval as shooting a Healthcare CEO, and less likely to get you caught.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX7dPwD6Sjg&t
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>>2859253
Ideas:
  1. If they can put up faster than you can take down, you loose.
  2. If public facing flock cameras get struck, private concealed cameras will become the norm.
  3. Concealed CCTV cameras that look like metal bolts on highway signs already exist.
  4. Signal Detection of WiFi, Bluetooth, Car Tire Sensors already exist.
  5. Adding a new camera is speedy. The pole is the target, until they start putting up redundant poles to save time in the future.
  6. Onboard CCTV and Battery Backups can be added to CCTV.


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>>2861866

Eventually, I suspect, direct action against the companies themselves will be necessary.

You don't. Flock is historically progressive. It will reduce crime and create a more harmonious society, just like China. Everyone was up in arms when that tech capitalist said people act better when they know they're being watched, and that's exactly what Chinese intellectuals say also. Trust the plan.

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Ehh, it's not like anyone goes out anymore anyways. Just another reason to stay home.

>>2859322
Because they are cucks for capital but at least their living standard are actually improving



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REAL, NOT CLICKBAIT, NOT A DRILL, THE CHICAGO POPE CRACKS DOWN

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2026-07/holy-see-decrees-excommunication-lefebrians-consecrations.html

As a result of escalating tensions revolving around some unapproved bishop appointments, it's officially happened: the Vatican has declared the tradcath Society of Saint Pius X to be schismatic and therefor not just its bishops but lay practitioners too are excommunicated. While the largest amount of tradcaths tend to congregate in America there's still plenty spread out all over the world. What are the implications of this split? Possible Antipope soon?
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The worst, most repugnant, fascist inclined tradLARPing fundamentalists have been expelled from Catholicism- perhaps up to 600,000 individuals - and they're all seething about it on twitter.
You love to see it.
That said, Catholicism is still overwhelmingly reactionary and conservative and responsible for more crimes than you could list in a 1000 posts.

On a related note: There is zero evidence for a God or for any religion, but the with the amount of suffering in the world I can at least grasp the logic behind Buddhist and Gnostic perspectives.
Christianity though? Despite being raised it in I don't think I ever really believed it.

>>2859714
you can cultivate it yourself. its not hard and isn't very expensive.

>>2859707
I’ve had some wild experiences on Mushrooms but I don’t think I’ve really had religious ecstasy from it.

TBH I think the “mystical” elements of religion are so completely ignored in modernity that people kind of dismiss what religious thinkers went through with “lol they must’ve been high”

Within the more mystical strains of Judaism, for example (I think you can learn more from studying “Merkevah Mysticism” or “Chariot mysticism”) there were religious/historical figures whose mystical experiences had such a profound effect on themselves that one became a “messiah” contender and disrupted Jewish society by preaching whatever their form of “heresy” is while another allegedly went incurably insane. For many of these people the experiences were so profound that many were willing to die (or, sadly, kill) for their beliefs.

So when these ancient Rabbis talk about seeing the chariot of God and going mad, I think it’s important to know that to many of these people their experiences were profoundly real.

>>2864015
I’m not a Gnostic or a scholar, but I’ve been on a Gnostic text binge lately so if you’ve got questions about Gnosticism contra Catholicism, I can try to answer as best I can.


Liberation Theology BTFO



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I think I finally know Trumps ideology and its called Neo-Bonapartism

Bonapartism describes a state that achieves relative autonomy from any single class by claiming to stand above class conflict entirely ruling personalistically through plebiscitary mass appeal and charismatic authority rather than through a party program or a coherent class coalition, while materially serving capital's interests without capital directly controlling the state apparatus. Bonaparte's actual regime combined: personalist rule bypassing parliamentary/institutional mediation, appeals to a cross-class "people" against both organized labor and the traditional elite, military prestige projects and adventurism as legitimation (the whole Second Empire foreign policy pattern), and state-directed economic development (Haussmann's Paris, railway financing) alongside crushing independent labor organization. That's close to a checklist match for Trump: personalist rule, state economic direction, military/security emphasis as legitimating spectacle, hostility to organized labor and the left, appeal over the heads of institutions to a plebiscitary mass base.

Bonapartism in the Marxist tradition is specifically theorized as arising when class conflict reaches a stalemate where no single class can rule directly, so an autonomous executive arbitrates from above, critically, without needing to make durable concessions to labor the way a genuinely hegemonic class-coalition government would. Gramsci's extension of the concept (he uses “Caesarism” interchangeably) is explicitly about a strong personalist arbiter stepping in during a legitimacy crisis of the ordinary political process, offering national/military grandeur and personal charisma as substitutes for programmatic concession. That's the theoretical explanation for exactly why Trumpism is anti social welfare while pro military spending Bonapartist/Caesarist rule doesn't need to buy off labor, because it's explicitly a crisis arbitration form that draws its legitimacy from personal charisma and national mythology rather than from a stable coalition requiring material payoffs.

So: Bonapartism (Marx's term) or Caesarism (Gramsci's near-synonym) is the actual name for 19th-century style personalist strongman, holistic state-directed military-industrial policy, minimal welfare concession, legitimated by charisma and national grandeur rather than institution-building or class-coalition bargaining. Specifically it explPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Call it anything but fascism

>>2863937
"More money for me, fuck you" isn't much of an ideology. Also this is old hat, the Chapotards back in 2017 were talking about the 18th of Brumaire and I think Jacobin had an article comparing Trump to Napoleon III.

I truly don’t think he has any ideology beyond sleeping, partying and eating McDonald’s. He will say and do whatever the people paying him and sucking his dick the most convince him to. He’s raised bourgeoisie, he has no thought beyond “god I hope number go up so I don’t have to actually do any work”

>>2863937
I think Bonparatism is a good descriptor for what Trump "is" but I'm not sure it's really an ideology. Egypt really has a regime like this.

Chris Cutrone gets too into contrarianism for its own sake but think he's one of the better American leftists on Bonapartism:

>Bonapartism is characterized for Marxism by precisely the inability of leading political figures to render society and the state tractable: Louis Bonaparte is the “farce,” compared to Napoleon’s (and Caesar’s) “tragedy,” because of his futility; he is not a cunning hero but a comedic villain. Where celestial forces swirl around a protagonist of Divine Fate, instead, we have the folly and error of someone who is merely “human, all-too human” (Nietzsche): not punished but merely scorned by the gods. While the conquering Napoleon summoned Goethe to insist that “there is no Destiny, only politics,” he was for Hegel nonetheless the “World Soul” of eternal History[2] when he rode his horse into town at the young professor’s first academic appointment. Louis Bonaparte is not the substantial character of political action, but a holographic projection of greater forces that neither he nor anyone else can master: “Bonapartism” is Marx/ism’s term for the self-alienation of politics in capitalism. As Marx summed it up about the plebeian masses in capitalism (petite bourgeoisie, lumpenproletariat, et al. — including workers, insofar as they are not self-organized into a social and political force of their own): they cannot represent themselves; they must be represented; they will be represented.[3] Bonapartism means the state represents everyone and no one. The state is universal but also its own particular interest.


>Police and military are “citizens in uniform” — as are bureaucrats — and hence playing a role that anyone could; and yet in capitalism they become their own specific caste apart from everyone. This is not merely a function of specialized knowledge but of role: the peculiar political role of the state in capitalism. Bureaucracy is considered by Marxism to be endemic in capitalism differently from its role in traditional civilization, which was of course a caste system that bourgeois society is not or at least is not supposed to be. Bureaucracy is a function of reification of social and political activity
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>ideology
Didn't read a word past that



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