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I've made a fascinating discovery. Leftypol, or rather its users, have direct power to influence the output of AI services. I've been spamming Leftypol with my hot takes a lot over the past few weeks, and voila: they're appearing in Grok and Perplexity!

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/85ab939d-16f5-40e4-9a51-348bc0161bae

https://leftypol.org/meta/res/37383.html#q44572
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>>2795286

This is what revisionists imagine maoists discussions to be like

>>2794589
>ai scrapes the web for user takes
this has been know for years. how is this an insight that warranted its own thread? might as well have put this in /isg/

>>2795403
the original post was made to satire leninhat, as was the video, which was made with elevenlabs rather than really voice acted


Nu uh



 

>isolate the allies to the point Armenian has no other choices to appeasement of EU
>threaten le Denazification of Armenia

Russia really needs better leadership at this point, his brain got destroyed after COVID and mismanagement of Ukraine war.
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>>2828073
Lobotomy, the party

>>2827948
It is a ticking time bomb because Putin is beginning to do arrests of communists including KPRF members and as >>2827755 align more with the LDPR to counter them. It is going to backfire because it shows the Communists are getting persecuted for things the workers want and will increasingly radicalized the populous. It is why they are attempting to rehabilitate Stalin but even Lenin is seeing skyrocketing rise in his approvals as well. Putin is between a rock and a hard place on what the next move is to please the national bourgeois and not have October 2.0 happen

Part of being a Russian leader is keeping Russians poor. It keeps them on their toes.

Why is this dude in power in the first place? And why hasnt the military or national bourgeoisie overthrown him already?

>>2828162
the cucktin narrative may mislead you to believe he is not useful to the national bourgeoisie, but the concentration of wealth in the russian economy is proceeding well so they have no reason to mind him



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Why was the soviet union dissolved when the population voted against it?
I thouht the proles were supposed to be in charge? Did ML's lie to me? I dont believe it.
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>>2824564
>an armored vehicle
It was a tank, just call it a tank. They also killed around 1000 people, iirc.

>>2825545
I thought the Soviet Union was a Judeo-Bolshevist plot to kill Christians…

>>2825545
'openly hostile' how?

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>Yeah the hardliners tried to coup the government and failed.
They weren't "hardliners". They were Gorbachev's own handpicked men. And there are theories, that Gorbachev himself was behind it, and others, that Kryuchkov [the main ring leader] had a secret deal with Yeltsin.

The referendum was to update the USSR in a new union of independent and free republics, not to keep the USSR as it was



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I am unable to remember the exact place i discovered this but its pretty obvious from just class warfare in general.

At some point we are probably gonna see Luddite riots and bombings against ai development, we are already partially seeing it.
What is the material reasons for this and can anybody find an example?
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>>2826495
But if clerical tasks are already accomplished by smaller local models, is there really a point to the data centers? Tangentially, I think massive investment deposited into centralized data centers is halting development of AI elsewhere e.g. local inference models, so even if someone concludes that LLMs are productive you steal need to account for the particular mode of "compute distribution" being a productive net loss

It happened

Revive

>>2825685
>and they blame technology, not capitalism
oh no, the original luddites absolutely blamed the social relations that led to their livelihood being destroyed by the tech more than the tech itself, but its way easier to destroy a machine than the socio-economic system you're in, and so they destroyed the machines to extract concessions



 

Is it fair to say that most of the culture wars that take place in American politics are merely fights between the petite-bourgeoisie (small business owners) and the PMC?

The ruling class doesn't seem to care about the cultural bullshit since they're not really affected by it. Likewise, the working-class doesn't care about cultural issues all that much either and really only cares about short-term economic stuff like the price of gas. Many of the conservative cultural attributes that are thrown on to the working-class are actually the traits of the petit-bourg (being anti-abortion and anti-queer, for instance).

Right now, in the era of social media, it seems like culture wars and "symbolic crusades" are at an all-time high. Interestingly though, much unlike the culture wars of the 80s-2000s which were lead by the right, these contemporary culture wars seem to be mostly lead by snarky white liberals who overwhelmingly make up the PMC. Take, for instance, something like the backlash against Olivia Rodrigo's babydoll dress: for decades liberals pushed "choice feminism" and told people to stop attacking what women wear, yet now seem very concerned about what women wear. Olivia's dress is an issue for them because they associate it with pedophillia, which of course they link to Trump and Epstein (never mind the fact Olivia is a proud liberal herself who works with Planned Parenthood and pro-Palestine organizations). On an almost identical note, multiple liberal women have raised hysteria over big retail chains like Target and Nordstrom selling milkmaid dresses, calling it "tradwife coded" and saying it's indicative that women's civil rights will be taken away. Obviously, this is bullshit. How could something as petty as a milkmaid dress destroy the decades of feminist struggles in America? We also see this very clearly with the "clean girl" aesthetic being demonized as right-wing or "eugenics-coded" with the heavy makeup/blue eyeshadow look being championed for being (allegedly) progressive. For a leftist, all of these things are simply a case of consumer identity vs. consumer identity.

But that's not the point. The real issue in these contemporary examples is that snarky liberal white women fear the decline of their social and cultural status. Jill from Manhattan is mad that Fynnleigh the Mormon tradwife has more TikTok followers than her, even though what Fynnleigh does in her home in Utah has no effect whatsoever on Jill. Women's Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2827235
How does this analysis square with the fact that even university educated types in Europe are increasingly voting far-right after enough contact with problematic immigrants from Africa and Middle-East? The same people who used to vote for centre-left and centre-right parties are switching to populist right and far right by the millions.

>>2827274
  1. Because there are many factors at play: there are some educated people with no taste, for example.
  2. Centrist parties have generally been incompetent and self-destructive
  3. The center right also tends to appeal to uneducated types. 58% of Germans with only "basic education" voted CSU (32) or AFD (26) vs 40 with higher education (27 CSU, 13 AFD), and I chose Germany at random as an unsympathetic example. (The UK is a total victory for this theory)

>>2825988
Very interesting video.

No idea why comrades think it’s worth it to get involved so heavily in petty cultural bullshit.

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>>2827709
The superstructure reflects the material base. The trouble is that people don't get into the underlying material factors driving culture.

IMO contemporary politics have largely been driven by the slow proletarianization of white-collar jobs which is increasingly putting the cultural hegemony of capitalists into crisis. The reactionary shift is a temporary measure as reformism has ceased to satisfy the masses.



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Why are Eastern Bloc countries so inundated with retarded faggot gaylord parties that go around saying they're "Economically Left-Wing but Socially Right-Wing" or whatever? Western Europe doesn't do this, they have normal bourgeoisie political parties that reject syncretist nonsense. What the fuck are they doing over there? Can they just be normal and stop trying to be le unique and different? Why don't they just kill themselves?
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Actual Communism when practised always turns into Third Positonism/National Socialism. Western Commies will never succeed in anything except aiding the social liberal parties to stay in power in their countries and aiding the judeocapitalist banker class in replacing the native worker who demands basic worker rights with third world migrants that can work for 12hours a day for 2 dollars and not complain.

>>2821416
>nd contextualized, are peasant revolutions. Rather than asking why rural folks support socialists in the East, the real question is why the rural regions support the right in the West. Once socialists in the west can answer that question and figure out a way to appeal to rural people in the West, they will be abl

Because the Western Left has taken the side of third world lubenproletariat απεργοσπάστες instead of the native workers, who they decry for being "colonzers" (even though their ancestors worked in coals mines during the colonial era),racist or bougie when they ask uncomfortable questions.
Their Fanatical Support for F@ggotry, Tranvestites and other sexual perv activity is also a major reason.
I am a full on nazi from Greece, but I might hypothetically honestly join the KKE if they changed their view on migration and if they where (a bit) more Christian.

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>>2828001
>>2828006
>Third Positionism/National Socialism
Read a book uyghur.

its because marxism-leninism ruined everything
just compare russian communists before marxism-leninism:
>total Tsar ACKing
with russian communists post marxism-leninism
>outmaneuvered by gorbachov (fucking lol)
>united front with cucktin
its grim

>>2821416
Easy. Those weren't communists revolutions. They were liberal revolutions that produced industrial societies. Rural people in the West support the Right cause they are 12 people that own land and immigrant slaves.



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Atlanticism is literally the Ruscism of the West, and Fehlingerism and Schwabism are the Duginism of the West.

meow. meow. meow. meow.

Should've added anti fascism and multiliberaism to that

You play too much hoi4 tfr

>>2824701
for "allahu akbar"
for "God is great" wtf does this even mean ? The equivalent to the others is the "Ummah" or maybe the caliphate.



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>The Urning [book by K. H. Ulrichs] you sent me is a very curious thing. These are extremely unnatural revelations. The paederasts are beginning to count themselves, and discover that they are a power in the state. Only organisation was lacking, but according to this source it apparently already exists in secret. And since they have such important men in all the old parties and even in the new ones, from Rosing to Schweitzer, they cannot fail to triumph. Guerre aux cons, paix aus trous-de-cul [war on the cunts, peace to the arse-holes] will now be the slogan. It is a bit of luck that we, personally, are too old to have to fear that, when this party wins, we shall have to pay physical tribute to the victors. But the younger generation! Incidentally it is only in Germany that a fellow like this can possibly come forward, convert this smut into a theory, and offer the invitation: introite [enter], etc. Unfortunately, he has not yet got up the courage to acknowledge publicly that he is ‘that way’, and must still operate coram publico‘ from the front’, if not ‘going in from the front’ as he once said by mistake. But just wait until the new North German Penal Code recognises the droits du cul [rights of the arse-hole] then he will operate quite differently. Then things will go badly enough for poor frontside people like us, with our childish penchant for females. If Schweitzer could be made useful for anything, it would be to wheedle out of this peculiar honourable gentleman the particulars of the paederasts in high and top places, which would certainly not be difficult for him as a brother in spirit.
Letter from Friedrich Engels to Karl Marx, June 22, 1869
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idpol slide thread

>>2827341
>If Schweitzer could be made useful for anything, it would be to wheedle out of this peculiar honourable gentleman the particulars of the paederasts in high and top places, which would certainly not be difficult for him as a brother in spirit.
Image of Karl Marx trying to recruit the first socialist elected to parliament in Europe (who was gay) to spy on othe socialists (who were also gay)

Oh wait that was Engels nm

>>2827611
I read OP like three times, Engels doesn’t sound hostile to Ulrichs unless I’m missing some sarcasm or context. Saying “ thank god me and Marx are too old to assfuck” is a pretty typical straight guy joke.

>>2827341
Engels was fucking hilarious, this is quality comedic writing
>war on the cunts, peace to the arse-holes
>rights of the arse-hole
Why am I picturing Milo Yiannopoulos?



 

I know that Western investment in the third world can be anti-imperialist and AES but what about IMF loans???
I thought Based China was going to wholesomely develop Africa's productive forces for free, what the FUCK is this??
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>>2827833
ML stands for Military LARP

>>2827841
I thought it stood for Moderate Leftism?

>>2827841
>>2827980
No, it stands for Massively Logical.

>>2827841
It stands for Moronic Liberal actually

>>2827832
Indeed, one might even say that it's so low that it's a nothingburger and this was a stupid gotcha thread that isn't based on anything meaningful.



 

Fuck this guy. I’m tired of seeing liberals and even “principled” leftists like Jacobin Mag prop him up as the greatest thing to happen to American leftism, like he’s sone kind of modern-Day William Z Foster.

In reality, Mamdani is a total fraud. He’s pandered to Zionists even before taking office. Then after taking office he’s sucked up to Chabad-Lubavitcher which is a satanic racist Jewish supremacist org with ties to the Russian mafia and Zionist entity. Why? He’s even thrown his own wife under the bus for working with Palestinian liberation activist Susan Abdulhawa. I guess he thinks kosher feelings outweigh Palestinian lives. He hasn’t done anything he’s promised in making NYC a cheaper and easier place to live. And yet delusional leftists still love and support him.

If Mamdani was truly principled he’d make it illegal to be a Zio in NYC. Semd police to monitor all synagogues for promoting Zionism. Track donations to the IOF from Jewish orgs. Fully divest NYC from the Zionist entity and all companies that do business with the Zionist entity. Get ICE to deport anyone with Zionist entity citizenship ( I hear there are a lot of them in Brooklyn and Queens). Ban AIPAC and all other pro-Zionist groups. Shut down businesses like Eichler’s which routinely sell Zionist products.

Mamdani ran on the basis of defying the Zionist Lobby so he needs to keep his promises.
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>>2801728
not enough motion to challenge the police union.

>>2819426
Because he's not a dictator and has no ability to do that.

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>>2782652
Can I hate both?



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