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Come on, western leftist! What is going on? You have the perfect opportunity - the old cannot rule in the old way, and the new cannot rule in the new way. You are between two class dictatorships RIGHT NOW. There is a crisis developing that will mark the definitive end to Western 500 year long hegemony. This is the time for DUAL POWER. Where are your contacts? Where is your network? Where are the people like Stalin and Sverdlov? What is happening? Hello? Does anyone care? Or do we need ISLAMOCOMMUNISM? Iran is the only organization currently attacking the old order.

It's over.

you do it first, you show me yours and I show you mine.

Demoralization thread

Fuck you, who are you to demand anything?

>>2743338
>Where are the people like Stalin and Sverdlov?
people like that are only produced by semi-feudal conditions



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<Republic of Cuba
<Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
<People’s Republic of China
<Lao People’s Democratic Republic
<Socialist Republic of Vietnam
<Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela

Rest of the world is ruled by bourgeoisie and personal opinions and political positions are up to debate but not these countries. Dictatorship of the proletariat means that these countries are ruled by the proletariat and their representatives.
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>>2562383
><Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela
>not ruled by the bourgeoise
lmao

>>2562383
Princess Yo-Jong getting cheated out of succession to the throne proves DPRK is no longer a DotP. All true proles are loyal to the princess.

>>2563161
based with the exception of this filthy opportunism
>Communists should support a single state in historic Palestine

>>2566879
>until any of them ACTUALLY takes any meaningful action against GLOBAL CAPITALISM
Iran is objectively striking against the global capitalist system right now, by smashing the global imperialist system. By fighting the USA, it is fighting not only the only imperialist, it's the last imperialist power. Once it's burst, there will be no nation left with enough concentration of power to hold that title. The era of European domination of the world is over and the US is the last one capable of retaining it for now. The ripple effects of the discovery of such a weak continent as America are normalising. The "potential difference" is nearly exhausted. The nations of the world have been equalising in power/technology since 1815 when the UK ruled the world unimpeded. When the final imperialist hanging-on has had its imperial power smashed, the capitalist imperialist system will have no enforcer and will be replaced by socialism, the only possible higher system.

>>2562793
It was coined by Italian nationalist Enrico Corradini and a major part of Italian fascist rhetoric



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These fags want to remove the age of consent laws and normalize pedophilia
They think Trump will do that by making people ignore his involvement in child abuse
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>>2686058
reddit radlib ass pandering slop comment
all it's missing is the 1619 and the hamilton reference


>>2631567
probably not

Okay

>>2706146
>https://www.huffpost.com/entry/megyn-kelly-epstein-trump-fondling_n_692085d8e4b0d31c0a7a0d7a
>>Last week, Megyn Kelly made waves when she pondered whether convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein was actually a pedophile because, according to Kelly, his victims were “the barely legal type” and not 8-year-olds. (For the record: Epstein’s victims were at least as young as 14).



 

What do we do about the little Hitlerite problem?

The merits of the petite-bourgeoisie in national liberation struggles are debatable but in the imperial core small-business owners are nothing but the spear-tip of reaction.

So how do we as workers actually struggle against the small-business owners? It seems like there's no direct way of struggling against these assholes. I would like high taxes and tight labor regulations but that's a wish, not actual struggle. Boycotts are also pretty useless for the working class.
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>>2709531
>>2709530
>>2709450
>>2709548
Yes, but I'm speaking specifically about the imperial core where the petite-bourgeoisie are deliberately subsidized with super-profits via the security-industrial complex and so on to use as a whip against the workers.
>>2709454
They constantly attempt to bring the workers over to reactionary bullshit. And fuck'em rural petite-bourgeoisie, prison towns are the madness of reactionary vipers.
https://lpeproject.org/blog/the-political-economy-of-the-urban-rural-divide

>>2709382
>small-business owners are nothing but the spear-tip of reaction.
"they're just the weapon" wut?
Trump's base are like car dealership owners
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/03/a-private-jet-of-rich-trumpers-wanted-to-stop-the-steal
>there's no direct way of struggling
put them against BlackRock and other megacorpos who proletarianize them, I guess?

>>2709530
>groom them
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patty_Hearst#Symbionese_Liberation_Army

>>2709382
modern 'workers' are all on the teat with your pensions, sick pay and redundancy pay etc. Get real

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>>2742857
The majority of workers worldwide don't get any of those things you listed, though, porky. And if they did that's good, not a thing to be upset about and try to roll back.

>>2709454
fpbp, the bourgeoisie will always be worse



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Since February 28, everything under heaven is in utter chaos; the situation is excellent.
~Trump ZeDonK

Latest News
>Pirates of the Arabian have entered the chat
<Trump is begging 7 countries (in 5 years) to help police Hummus
>China insists the pool is still closed
<Putin? I don't know what putin is doing tbh
>More ACK's and More ACK's to come from USAF (and fizzlers)
<OIL STILL RISING
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>>2742626
>wfwitness
The Iranian version works.
It seems durov is censoring Iranian telegram channels.

>>2742715
that faggot

someone bake

>>2742874
EMERGENCY BAKE

>>2742918
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>>2742918
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>>2742918
<<2742918

I've already seen at least one video of a drone hitting an industrial site, so they do come through



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This world nations needing to catch up to the big money bags inertia of first world nations that filled the pockets with colonialism have no choice but to opt for state capitalism. China proved this. Get middle income trapped bitch.

>This world nations needing
Don't care what "nations" "need"

Socialists would rather impoverished countries get sanctioned and isolated from the global economy and left to stagnate and leave their population in poverty rather than embrace the China model of embracing markets and lifting the population into wealth through the market.

>>2742892
The market is just a trojan horse and necessary as long as timmy is on top

>>2742904
Dumb retard mexicans are as laborious as the chinese. Ofcourse itd work.

"state capitalism" isn't a magic spell,if there is nothing to develop,nothing will happen and the contractors the state employ will just pocket the money for years pretending they're going to do something any day now I swear I'm not embezzling state funds wink wink
So now the third world state has 2 choices : develop resource extraction and luxury agriculture,or suffer from the first problem since it's impossible to compete with how cheap everything else is already produced by the global market



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Majority of people in Australia think the level of immigration needs to be reduced ASAP. Why is this such an unpopular position on the left?

>>2742900
Idk because we don't wanna buy into a moral panic just because a lot of people care about it? Maybe we should also accept capitalism since the majority think it's fine.

>>2742900
lmao our drive-by tiktok baby can't share NSN videos anymore.



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04:42 GMT
Andreas Krieg, a senior lecturer at the School of Security Studies at King’s College London, told Al Jazeera that the US military would not be able to secure the Strait of Hormuz as quickly and easily as Donald Trump hopes.

“Having a Navy ship there is going to act as a deterrent,” he said, adding that Iran would “not hold back” in attacking hostile vessels. He added that attempting to use US military assets in the strait would be “almost suicidal.”

The US Fifth Fleet said on Monday that two of its minesweepers, the USS Tulsa and the USS Santa Barbara, were making “brief logistical stops” in Malaysia.

07:41 GMT
The fire that broke out aboard the USS Gerald Ford aircraft carrier last Thursday was not put out until 30 hours later, the New York Times reports, citing the sailors.

Dozens of crew members suffered smoke inhalation due to the fire, which started in the laundry area, the paper said.

More than 600 sailors were left without beds as a result of the incident, and were forced to sleep on the floor and on tables in other parts of the ship, according to the report.

The USS Gerald Ford, which is taking part in the US-Israeli war against Iran, is currently entering its tenth month of deployment, the second longest for any American carrier since the Vietnam War.

>>2742870
this is the 2nd oldest iran war thread. we're on like #44 buddy

>>2708647
>noone calls trump or elon these things despite them being very openly anti jewish
Each one of Trump's kids beside Barron are married to jews and Elon is one of the most philosemitic man alive.

>>2709419
Dugin is against fascism and nationalism itself actually.



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i cannot take this anymore fuck wage labor fuck wage labor fuck wage labor fuck wage labor i need to burn it all down i cannot be a wageslave any longer please emancipate labor now now now now

That's why I say: if they're going to nuke the world, let it be before the time I get on the bus.

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>>2727425
baby's first 9-5?

wage labor? you are an aristrocrat and deserve to be shot, the real exploited masses are self employed and do the gig economy for mega corps without any social protection whatsoever, you may not like it but the revolutionary subject is petit bourgeois now



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A case for social-liberalism, progressivism and social-democracy.

I am not completely against socialism (mainly democratic socialism) and communism/marxism, but I think modern society evolved in a way we should prioritize freedom+democracy over any authoritarian regime.

We should organize society within this framework and try to reform the system from within.

The idea of "revolution" is a broad idea. Reform and progress can be considered "revolutions" and I make the case they actually are grat revolutions, because they are part of a greater consesus instead of an authoritarian takeover. They tend to be more stable and irreversible because of the strong social consensus over time.

We should invest in education to teach people socialist ideas so they grow up being strong reformists and end up changing society over time and fight against right-wing radicalism. That's what I think.
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>>2742165
>best alternative we have to literal fascism.
Who is we? Maybe you will get social democracy for a while, authoritarianism/fascism will move elsewhere.

>>2742138
>this is moralistic garbage that has no place in serious political discussion. your "humanity" does not have any place in the real world where all parties hand pick candidates according to corporate interests, where to even run in office presupposes a massive amount of wealth or financial backing, where there are colossal propaganda apparatuses that overshadow the voice of any individual or group of individuals who do not have any sort of infrastructure in which to spread counter-messaging. the liberal is so small-minded that even the mass corruption evinced in the epstein file coverup is not enough to finally convince them that electoral politics is horseshit and their "reasonable" reformism is in fact the grandest utopian flight of fancy of them all
holy truth nuke

>>2742033
>modern society evolved in a way we should prioritize freedom+democracy over any authoritarian regime.

How about the workers democratically own the means of production? You're conflating 'freedom' and 'democracy' to mean liberal bourgeoisie government. How is one class of people dominating every aspect of modern life 'freedom'?


>We should organize society within this framework and try to reform the system from within.


You people have been saying this for over a hundred years. Have you ever managed to get anything from the bourgeoisie besides scraps?

I'd suggest opening a history book at some point.

>>2742033

>A case for social-liberalism, progressivism and social-democracy.

>BEEP BOOP TRANSLATION
<A case for capitalism, capitalism, and "nice" capitalism

>We should organize society within this framework and try to reform the system from within.


That is never gonna happen, porkies will kil l you, jail you or make your life as hard as possible, or if you might be successful stage a coup against you like they did Allende.

>more stable and irreversible because of the strong social consensus over time.


what? capitalism is killing people and the planet as we speak and you want us to wait over time until everyone catches up and wakes the fuck up? plus there will always be reactionaries who will undo your work. see pink and blue tides, american system ,etc.

>We should invest in education to teach people socialist ideas

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>>2742126
Effete non-answer with sentimentalist post-christian platitudes about "the good in each human mannn". Predictable response.
I am not a Hobbesian or a stupid vitalist, i am not even a pessimist since i did point out we win half pur battles without really fighting.
But you do need to be feared and respected, meaning capable AND willing to enact strategic violence on your existential ennemies and the ones that help them, and modern socprogs dont do this, well until the Kirkocaust that is.
It's a travesty for progressives no one kirked Matt Walsh and libsoftiktoks during the Biden years for example, we have only ourselves to blame for reactionaries feeling save enough to wreck shit. Only ultraviolence work against these cockroaches.



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