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"Professional Revolutionary" Anonymous 29-03-26 15:59:09 No.2759670[Reply]

Marxist solution to exploitation:
>be worker
>have full time job
>not enough to pay bills
>get a 2nd job that doesn't pay you anything and which might get you killed called "professional revolutionary"
>start civil war, probably die in civil war
>if survive civil war, probably get purged in party purges after civil war
>if survive party purges, probably have glowie-backed coup
>if survive glowie-backed coup, probably become revisionist and do capitalist restoration
>right back at square 1

Normal solution to exploitation:
>be worker
>have full time job
>not enough to pay bills
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Anonymous 30-03-26 18:51:39 No.2761091

~~>>2759909~~
>Two jobs make you a petry bourgeois
Holy shit you fucking idiot, you cannot be this fucking stupid fucking kill yourself you fucking retard

Anonymous 31-03-26 01:42:17 No.2761530

having two jobs is the kind of thing that leads one to develop frivolous, expensive and unhealthy habits like smoking, drinking, gambling, gaming

Glownonymous 31-03-26 01:45:58 No.2761532

>>2759670
>exploitation = not having enough money
cool thread retard

Anonymous 31-03-26 02:01:59 No.2761554

>>2760998
This.
>>2761530
Also this.

Anonymous 31-03-26 08:36:12 No.2761811

>>2759670
>right back at square 1
Uhhm no? After surviving the glowie-backed coup, revisionism and capitalist restoration you are now a well respected party apparatchik/people's billionaire/potential revolutionary war hero

problem solved

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/ CYBERCOM / Anonymous 19-11-25 17:59:42 No.2566144[Reply]

This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators sorted by last name

>Paul Cockshott
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Anonymous 31-03-26 03:40:16 No.2761624

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I'm a complete noob in computing. Can anyone of you guys explain what the fuck is being said in this image? It mentions cybernetics so maybe it can be helpful to cyber communism.

Anonymous 31-03-26 04:44:08 No.2761665

>>2761624
Wtf is this? Where did u get it from?

Anonymous 31-03-26 04:47:32 No.2761669

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>>2761624
pic HIGHLY related to your pic

Anonymous 31-03-26 05:44:25 No.2761718

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>>2761624
I'm retarted so I asked ShatSloppidy what dat pic mean

Glownonymous 31-03-26 08:23:27 No.2761799

>>2761624
most programmers work on easy problems, and problems that can be turned into easy ones. in planning, instead of finding the exact solution for a linear program, which is almost certainly NP, we can instead find an approximate solution, which is P
for an example of spooky things happening in the upper echelons of computing, look into the Busy Beaver problem. castorologists have identified Collatz-esque problems to be the big stumbling block at present, and this is for BB(6). that is, we do not know for how long the longest-running terminating 6-state Turing machine will actually run for
Wikipedia has a nice summary of why the Busy Beaver problem is mathematically relevant:
>One of the most consequential aspects of the busy beaver game is that, if it were possible to compute the functions Σ(n) and S(n) for all n, then this would resolve all mathematical conjectures which can be encoded in the form "does ⟨this Turing machine⟩ halt".[5] For example, there is a 27-state Turing machine that checks Goldbach's conjecture for each number and halts on a counterexample; if this machine did not halt after running for S(27) steps, then it must run forever, resolving the conjecture.[5][7] Many other problems, including the Riemann hypothesis (744 states) and the consistency of ZF set theory (745 states[8][9]), can be expressed in a similar form, where at most a countably infinite number of cases need to be checked.[5]
this is the essence of the "32 bytes" claim in the beginning. 32*8 = 256 bits. a binary S-state Turing machine can be encoded in 2*S*log2(2*S+1) bits. all machines in BB(6) occupy a mere 45 bits, and this class of programs already contains a very hard problem (the Collatz conjecture). the 27-state Goldbach machine mentioned in the WP text would take 313 bits to encode, and it is likely not even the most difficult machine to reason about in that set
this isn't that important for cybernetics however. control theorists are concerned with practical problems

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Asmonbrother appreciation thread Anonymous 31-03-26 08:19:14 No.2761795[Reply]

This sir asmongold has saved my life, I used to be an angry transgender chud, but after watching his funny stream I am liberal conservative king. Many well wishes and love to this glorious one true king.

Anonymous 31-03-26 08:21:18 No.2761797

The hero of the reactionary movement. Great intellect of Evropa.

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Elon Musk Anonymous 28-12-25 22:33:58 No.2616360[Reply]

“Mass immigration is insane and will lead to the destruction of any country that allows it. It only takes a few percent of the world to move to a country, where it is no longer that country. A country is its people, not its geography.”
https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1908860526400057534

"The legacy media never mentions white genocide in South Africa, because it doesn’t fit their narrative that whites can be victims"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1904065163407368212

Even Musk's AI is based.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1916042294018666585

"The ADL is a hate group"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1973289543848829225

He supports remigration.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1997700657546191314

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Glownonymous 30-03-26 03:17:18 No.2760481

>>2754450
yeah I'd imagine the actual richest people are so rich they can afford to be fully anonymous and act through epstein-like proxies from the shadows

he's probably up there doe

Anonymous 30-03-26 08:45:58 No.2760662

>>2725065
Well said.
>>2760481
Also true. But bureaucrats and "legacy functionnaries" of all kind can be more powerful than The Rich Guy anyway, power belong to whoever own the guns, litteral or figurative, and can use them. Elon is a good businessman, a competent industrialist but he's no leader or wathever he don't have the charisma and will to do that he only have money and sucking the dick of POTUS hoping theyll grant him juicy contracts.
A next dem admin could wipe him out and get someone else to ran his companies.

Anonymous 30-03-26 08:49:04 No.2760664

This is why the right is legit terrified of "the deep state" btw. It doesn't matter how rich you get, a powerful judge that control the chain of command can just jail you, look at what happenned to Bolsonaro or how CPC dealed with their rich dissidents. To the median rightoid this is fucking terrifying.
It's good by the way.

Glownonymous 30-03-26 15:32:45 No.2760901

>>2760664
A judge is not deep state.
The deep state are the "unaccountable" appendages of the security security appartus allied gigamoney secret criminal organizations / "lobbies" who just pop elected officials including US presidents and funnel millions of funds from surface society money into their arcs on the daily.

What happened to Bolsonaro (so far) and what happens to Chinese billionaires is the exception to the rule. Bolsonaro if anything has a very real chance of reversing shit around because the whole social turmoil with the "far right" and populists of which he is part of taking open control of society at large is basically a revolution of various factions deep state taking full control of the societies they've been operating in for decades.

So you are right, money doesn't beat guns as Mao put it, but it definitely can get guns of its own or even buy the ones that can be pointed at them if played right.

Anonymous 31-03-26 06:29:23 No.2761749

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>>2616384
This entire post is pretty much, "Why I Left the Right," summarized. Everything about all of that is just further proof the whole ideology today isn't real. It's a spook.

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Time Martyrs All Glownonymous 30-03-26 07:29:33 No.2760634[Reply]

>>Wearied by the struggle of life, how many close their eyes, fold their arms, stop short, powerless and discouraged. How many, and they among the best, abandon life as unworthy of continuance. With the assistance of some fashionable theories, and of a prevalent neurasthenia, some men have come to regard death as the supreme liberation.

>>To those who hold this view, society replies with the usual clichés.

>>It speaks of the “moral” purpose of life; argues that one has no right to kill himself, that “moral” sorrows must be borne courageously, that a man has duties, that the suicide is a coward or an “egoist”, etc. etc. All of these phrases are religious in tone; and none of them are of genuine significance in rational discussion.

>>What after all is suicide?

>>Suicide is the final act in a series of actions that we all tend to carry out, which arise from our reaction against our environment, or from that environment’s reaction against us.

>>Every day we commit suicide partially. I commit suicide when I consent to inhabit a dwelling where the sun never shines, a room where the ventilation is so inadequate that I feel like I am suffocated when I wake up.

>>I commit suicide when I spend hours on work that absorbs an amount of energy which I am not able to recapture, or when I engage in activity which I know to be useless.

>>I commit suicide whenever I enter into the barracks to obey men and laws that oppress me.
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Anonymous 30-03-26 14:41:38 No.2760850

>>2760714
>being depressed = petite bourgeois
peak leftoid moment

Anonymous 30-03-26 15:03:22 No.2760878

>>2760795
you are jordan peterson

Glownonymous 31-03-26 00:13:22 No.2761474

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>>2760714

It is interesting how low the reading comprehension level of leftypol users is, much lower than I expected. First, I checked my comrade’s post. The excerpt comes from a text written during the era of the Paris Commune and its fall, which reflects a period very different from the Russian Revolution. Lenin was not even a revolutionary at that time; this predates the Russian Revolution by many years.

Yet all you get out of this text is “life sucks.” It seems pretty clear that the conclusion of the text is that assimilation to the material conditions created by capital is a form of suicide, and that choosing life means resistance. That life does not suck, but the material conditions our class is subjected to do. Even if your fearlessness puts the physical body at risk, once you no longer fear death, you become a very strong individual contributing to the collective class struggle. It is wild that you do not see this. The comrade posted pictures; the text is plainly put. In fact, some of the people influenced by texts like this later fought as Bolsheviks.

You comrades really need to brush up on your history and theory. Stop being so linear and repetitive in your knowledge accumulation. Learning to repeat things is not understanding history. Open your minds and stop being so intellectually weak. I never even finished high school, what is the excuse here?

Anonymous 31-03-26 05:52:16 No.2761721

>>2760714
Lenin was a college educated middle peasant and had no children. This was one of those moments where he was just really salty at the neighbors he grew up with because his whole family scared the hoes after his older brother got ACKed at the gallows for being a failed Nechayevite bombthrower.

Anonymous 31-03-26 05:53:52 No.2761722

>>2761474
>I never even finished high school

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/MENA/#1 Anonymous 10-12-25 21:13:18 No.2591246[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

A general to compile all news, articles, essays and info related to the Greater Middle East-North Africa region.

Creating this general in an effort to centralize all the info that currently gets posted to 5 different threads concerning conflicts and developments in the MENA region. Seeing how slow they generally are and at risk of getting bumped off besides the Palestine thread and that it’s likely people interested in Yemen, Syria, Iran, Sudan and Palestine are likely also interested in news and info from across the region I think it would be useful to post everything in one place.

This will be the inaugural edition to see how it goes. Welcome!

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Anonymous 27-02-26 23:51:39 No.2707465

>>2707464
>muh blood and soil
All shitholes are fake

Tomdatinker 27-02-26 23:57:06 No.2707468

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>>2707465
>Anarkid speek
When did I ever say that I was a statist?!?!
Of course I national citizenship is just a social construct and stuff and states are just an instrument of class oppression but most countries had a national identity and unique culture and shit but none of the ones I shared above did, they were just carved up by the British, or I think so that is why I was asking.

Anonymous 28-02-26 00:06:22 No.2707479

>>2707468
yes, but all the gulf countries are fake or amalgamations of previous states, with the exception of perhaps bahrain

Anonymous 16-03-26 23:10:37 No.2742143

>>2742134
>>2742134
>>2742134
JOIN THE FAKHA FESTIVAL

Anonymous 31-03-26 05:27:55 No.2761702

bump

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On Solipsism Anonymous 30-03-26 19:46:51 No.2761168[Reply]

What is the Marxist take on Solipsism? (Or more acuratelly, metaphysical Solipsism: The idea only the self exists and all the universe is merely an image plastered onto it.) Ive always followed this line of thinking, despite being a materialist in parallel. It just sounds incredibly hard to sincerely refute.

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Anonymous 30-03-26 20:38:22 No.2761242

I think therefore I kill the bourgeoisie

Anonymous 30-03-26 20:41:38 No.2761248

>>2761168 this is such bs lol im sorry if im rude op but this is sooooo fake lol

Anonymous 30-03-26 20:48:02 No.2761255

>>2761168
Im not big fan of this metaphysical philosophical wankery. Every single phenomenon, including your consciousness, your abstract ideas, and your subjective projection of reality, are fundamentally physical.

Anonymous 30-03-26 21:11:59 No.2761293

>>2761255
Supposing that we, somehow, were able to fully copy every last atom of your brain: Would you have two consciences at once? It's fundamentally very hard to trace where our consciousness comes from, and exactly how others would have it. Would you require your exact genetic make up for you to be conscious? Would that not make the chances of ever achieving conciousness near zero consider all historical factors that have to converge for this to happen? And why am I in this body? Why am I inside this particular form and not any else, or even as mentioned previously, multiple at once? I personally believe it's ignorant to fully discard metaphysics, as there's a reasonable limit materialism can describe conciousness.

Anonymous 30-03-26 23:38:32 No.2761455

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>>2761293
Yes, there would be two identical minds at once. From that poing onwards, obviously, they will begin to diverge because being in different points of space will make them subject to slightly different stimuli.

>Would you require your exact genetic make up for you to be conscious? Would that not make the chances of ever achieving conciousness near zero consider all historical factors that have to converge for this to happen?

I don't understand where you're going to here. You need your exact genetic make up in order to have your exact consciousness, but I need a diferent one to have mine. Chances of the present state of things occuring are not relevant to the problem of solipsism or of reductionism. If you are a materialist you believe that "chances" are just a mental model of our ignorance, they are not something that actually exists. God doesn't play dice, and all that.

>And why am I in this body? Why am I inside this particular form and not any else, or even as mentioned previously, multiple at once?
If you are asking why you are inside your particular body you are pressuming that which you are wanting to prove, i.e., that you are something not physical tied somehow to a physical substrate. A materialist doesn't believe this, we believe you are your body, and "consciousness" is simply a word to describe the mental phenomena of your body. It's not necessary to understand the exact nature of consciousness to the last comma to presume it being of a physical nature, it's enough to merely extend to ourselves the knowledge we have of the world. Animals, trees, rocks, planets, parsimony dictates that whatever those things are we must be of the same nature, there is no reason to believe otherwise. So either everything is a soul tied to a body or everything is only body or everything is only soul.

You are on your Descartes era and you must trascend to best philosopher era, our prince Spinoza, the only TRUE materialist metaphyisician.

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Veganism and Communism Anonymous 17-03-26 19:20:01 No.2743561[Reply]

Before I start about whole topic of this post I would like to point out that this post mainly focus on Communists and not other tendencies among "radical leftism" because their justification may systematically vary and require different approach so I would like to keep it rather focused on concrete mindset in certain group of people.

Alot of people who become Communists today may have different reasons for their radical outlook of current state of things, but what fundamentally may cause for these people even to look critically at current state of things is definetly whole history of struggle between oppressed and oppressing and analysis itself on how even does this struggle effect people's state of being and how we as people can eventually build a movement which does opposse current state of things which as we know dynamically change in this whole history of struggle in name of class intrests.

But how does it even relate to Veganism?

Honestly it does very much relate in contemporary developed states because we live in very unique times where we as people (oppossed to third world countries) can consciously decide between consuming products which are result of animal exploitation and which aren't, but as we know Communism doesn't come from moralist standpoint as I pointed it out in first part of the post, but this fact isn't even about morality (or ethics) itself but it's about our reasoning in first place, we take certain analysis as something true and based on certain methodology we come to conclusion that class dominance (oppression) is something which can and even should be overcome in this whole history of struggle dynamic, but we can argue that slave fighting against laws which impose slavery on them is in their intrest, and we can go even further in Communist analysis that certain classes may share certain intrests in this whole history as for example early bourgeoisie fought against slavery because it was in their intrest, even tho they didn't share their status and conditions in state of things they found theirself.

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Anonymous 30-03-26 22:36:55 No.2761403

>>2744463
almost like we evolved with that particular diet for 200,000 years and only recently became capable of cramming meat

Anonymous 30-03-26 22:37:57 No.2761405

>>2761323
>someone using my meme only 2 hours after i made it
>the post is based and i agree with it
feels so good

Anonymous 30-03-26 23:26:29 No.2761442

Factory farming is provably reactionary when you look at the logistics.
The original purpose of hunting animals was that they were collecting more energy from plants than groups of humans could gather themselves. When this moved to agriculture, this was then animals collecting nutrients and energy from wastelands that could not be tilled and farmed. Whilst numerically inefficient, as the animals ended up using most of the calories they were eating, they were still net energy and vitamin gains to the societies that ate the meat.

Current factory farming flips this. Animals must be fed from human-grown crops. Given the usual 10% trophic level efficiency, this means that every calorie requires 10x more diesel fuel for tractors, 11x more trucking diesel fuel, 10x the labor. It requires further energy produced by humans on air conditioning and ventilation lest the animals die of overheating and carbon dioxide asphyxiation. It further requires enormous amounts of antibiotics production, which costs more in energy such as diesel fuel and raw resources, it requires the labor of slaughterhouse workers, it requires the capital invested into slaughterhouses, the slaughterhouses need energy. Unlike earlier forms of animal farming, factory farming waste is far too concentrated, and now also massively polluted with antibiotics, which is leading directly to the rise of antibiotic resistant bacteria.

Anonymous 30-03-26 23:35:42 No.2761448

>>2761323
It's always Langley posters doing the whole "communists would personally execute and bathe in the blood of commuinsts today" because only a fed is actually stupid enough to believe that people who dedicated their lives trying to free the workers of the world would get hung up on minor culture war bullshit nobody cared about last year let alone last century.

Anonymous 30-03-26 23:38:18 No.2761453

>>2761448
>because only a fed is actually stupid enough to believe that people who dedicated their lives trying to free the workers of the world would get hung up on minor culture war bullshit nobody cared about last year let alone last century.
right wingers subhumans always try to bring this narrative, as to separate and deorganise the opposition, when in fact no one cares uygha.

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Lasagna Guy - Amadeo Bordiga Anonymous 30-03-26 21:31:52 No.2761321[Reply]

Why this whole Lasagna Guy aka Amadeo Bordiga wasn't right?

Also he definetly didn't support fascism, I'm looking for actual critique against his theories and interpretation of marxism.

Anonymous 30-03-26 21:45:47 No.2761342

>>2761321
>Also he defitenelly didnt support fascism
Read 'Vai Victis Germany', falsifier. Long live the German barbarian in brownshirts and his millenar struggle against democratic civilization

Anonymous 30-03-26 22:02:27 No.2761366

>>2761342
>"read this!"
>didn't read himself
Nice one buddy

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Palestine vs The Zionist Entity 122: HAPPY OCT 7! Edition Anonymous 07-10-25 16:45:48 No.2511968[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

NEVER FORGET THAT BEAUTIFUL DAY!

🇵🇸 PREVIOUSLY ON THE HOLY LAND 🇵🇸
~~>>2442214~~

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Sites that have active live-blogs:
• Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/

• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/liveblog/ (trigger warning)
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Anonymous 11-02-26 21:12:18 No.2688934

>>2687710
Tribalism has been a disaster for humanity. Sadly only bad news on the palestinian front. I just stopped paying attention since I can't help them and I can't afford living my whole life pissed off.

Anonymous 12-02-26 21:45:30 No.2689963

Israel’s prison authorities have begun preparations for executing Palestinians under a proposed law condemned by Amnesty International and UN experts.

The preparations include the construction of a “green mile” facility to carry out the hangings, with groups of three volunteer executioners simultaneously pressing a trigger, Israel’s Channel 13 reported.

Two prison rights groups described the death penalty bill as an “unprecedented act of savagery”.

Meanwhile, eight UN experts last week called on Israel to withdraw the bill, which mandates executions within 90 days of a guilty verdict.

The bill, which must pass two more readings in the Israeli Knesset to become law, introduces two tracks for the death penalty.

In the illegally occupied West Bank, Israeli military courts would impose the death penalty for “terrorist” acts that cause someone’s death, even if it was unintentional; while in Israel and occupied East Jerusalem, the death penalty would apply under Israeli criminal law, and only for the “intentional killing of Israeli citizens or residents”.

Only Palestinians will be executed, while Israelis convicted of similar offences will face prison sentences.

If passed, the Israeli government intends first to target the law at the elite Hamas military unit that conducted the 7 October 2023 attacks.
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Anonymous 27-02-26 02:55:29 No.2706402