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Below is my analysis of this article (https://web.archive.org/web/20100822150940/http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/World/20070623/peru_consent_070623/) detailing something rather amazing and extremely refreshing amidst today's global sex abuse hysteria and the continuing Orwellian encroachments on youth sexual rights as a result: the government of Peru actually lowered its AoC back in 2007. Hence, its then-in-power political party Aprista proved itself to be composed of progressives that are truly worthy of the term, unlike most of their cowardly counterparts in North America, Europe, and Australia. Without further ado, let's begin my analysis of the various excerpts from the article that are greentexted below, followed by my response in standard text.

>"Peru's Congress has voted overwhelmingly to lower the age to 14 for participating in consensual sex, a move some activists said could expose children to sexual abuse."


And who, exactly, would these "activists" be? They certainly aren't activists for youth rights, that much is clear. My guess is that they are the Peruvian equivalent of "child advocates" [CAs], who claim to fight for the "rights" of minors but in actuality fight for increased state and parental control over every aspect of young people's lives "for their own good." They are the main people in this world who have created an entire industry around the sex abuse panic, and they benefit and gain political power and oftentimes a large degree of state funds and lucrative media careers as a result of this dubious industry. So it's no wonder that so many of them push this "concern" past all degrees of reason and protest any type of progress that may weaken the stranglehold the sex abuse hysteria currently has over public discourse in the Western nations.

>"Lawmakers voted 70-10 on Thursday to approve the measure lowering the age at which criminal law recognizes the legal capacity of a person to consent to sexual activity. It was previously 17."


70-10??!! Holy shit! Peruvian politicians who consider themselves to be progressives are truly and sincerely progressive, and take the principles connected to the moniker very seriously, in contrast to the bulk of the progressives in America, England, and Austrialia who are tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

For one thing, such claims carry the implication that young people, including those who are empowered with their rights, are easier to coerce and intimidate into lying on behalf of adult rapists than other adults are, which is an ageist attitude against young people. Such claims are also invoking negative stereotypes and unreasonable distrust of adults by making the strong implication that adults who have a romantic/sexual interest in younger teens are very likely to be unscrupulous. This is a similar sentiment to what I often hear from anti-choice MAAs when they argue in favor of retaining AoC laws: an extreme, paranoia-laced mistrust for adults, with an accompanying belief that society is filled to the brim with adult rapists and potential rapists who are just sitting back and waiting for the AoC laws to be lowered, and will then emerge in mass numbers to pounce on unsuspecting minors, threaten and coerce them into having sexual relations, and then taking advantage of the AoC laws being lowered to intimidate these minors into saying that the rape was actually consensual. I wish people who make such claims would seriously think clearly about what they say before saying it, because they would look far less foolish and totally out of their minds with paranoia if they did so.
In a democratic nation, misanthropic attitudes that presume the world is filled with evil people, and passing laws based on this assumption, are frowned upon with good reason. We cannot pass laws based on what are clearly assumptions about what people might do based on a cynical dislike for the human race and still remain even a nominally democratic nation that is based upon socially progressive values. Yes, there are some evil adults out there who would indeed try to take advantage of young people, but I challenge anyone to prove that these adults exist in such great numbers that they justify oppressive laws that are based upon totally arbitrary assumptions, and which necessitate throwing large amounts of innocent people in prison to make sure that every single truly evil or guilty person gets punished right away. Yes, evil adults doing such things can happen and indeed have happened before, but I think it's nothing less than totally hysterical and even ageist to suggest that huge numbers of younger people lack the fortitude and strength of will to report to friends, family, and the authorities when an actual case of rape occurred regardless of what threats the hypothetical adult rPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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THE AESTHETICS OF COMMUNISM

This thread will describe what exact superstructural changes will occur in the aftermath of a Global Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution once the Material Base has been transformed after the Socialist Mode of Production has been established Worldwide. Enjoy Comrades, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

I will present a thought experiment, what will the World look like a century from now, decades after the World Maoist Protracted People's War (PPW) swept the forces of Capital and Reaction into the dustpan of History in the aftermath of World War III (it started in the Late 2020s as a High-Intensity Conventional Conflict between the U$ and China that escalated into a Global Nuclear War, but contrary to most Pseudoscientific Bourgeois Liberal and Revisionist expectations did not cause an apocalyptic "Nuclear Winter", but instead destroyed the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System and allowed for a World Maoist PPW that saw Maoist rebels seize control of the entire planet after decades of guerrilla warfare), 🤔? This Effort post will seek to answer that question, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

First, I will explain the political structure of this future Socialist world. There will be a Global USSR, in which every major Nation/Ethnic group will receive their own SSR or ASSR according to the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR (as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union ), including New Afrika, Aztlan (in a Hispano-American SFSR that includes all the Spanish-speaking Multiracial regions of the Americas), the First Nations, Azawad, Oromia, Afaria, Basque Country, Catalonia, Scotland, Wales, Sapmi, Palestine (in a Arab SFSR that includes all the Arab mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2545468
Bump, I cannot let my Epic Dialectical Materialist Effort Post Thread on the “Aesthetics of Communism” die yet, like, this is literally my Masterpiece, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲!

>>2804606
What schizo shit are you talking about, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲!

Please ban this user. They’re part of a bot operation orchestrated by a cult that uses this image board to train online personas so they can release them to psyop people into following a fake herd. they will eventually do whatever the fuck they do and make hundreds of personalities based on it put it on YouTube and elsewhere to promote their misguided beliefs.

>>2804607

dude were logging you all, we saw the software responding to us. deleted it to show you, we're watching.

>>2545468
Bump, I cannot let my Epic Dialectical Materialist Effort Post Thread on the “Aesthetics of Communism” die yet, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲!



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>uhm, actually, u can't have socialist revolution in non western countries u need industry and developed capitalism first
Bolsheviks: *simply buys industry from the west, develops capitalism, then collectivises everything like a boss*
>uhm… Slavs are subhuman

Was this guy retarded or what. Did he think nation borders were a magical force field that siloed historical development? Once capitalist industry emerges, it seems obvious that bringing it to another part of the world is a mere practical question
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He was right tho. There was only one actual communist revolution (USSR), and that later collapsed because of economic conditions, isolation and intense opportunism arising from the large non-proletarian sections of Russia.

But today, almost the entire world is industrialized, and revolution can happen anywhere.

>>2828501
Bureaucracy took over the USSR because of how backwards Russia was around the 1910s. Permanent revolution would've solved everything.

>>2828624
>revolution can happen anywhere
the strength of our opposition is not uniform across space. weakest in the chain.
Neither uniform is the strength of our revolutionary organization of the conscious class, militant and activated in the unions, economic, social and cultural. It too has hot concentrations and cold spots, across the terrain.
>>2828634
Trots have had ample time to take the L. That you're mostly just tailing social fascists to this very day is embarrassing. You're just as dogmatic and inflexible as Hoxhaists. Intelligent Leninists learned the failures of the United Front from Above in the early 20s. You're just another mutation of radlibs, but with additional steps than even the socdems.

>>2828501
Fuck you, OP.

>>2828644
We don't abandon the international working class under any circumstances.

>>2828650
Apparently you can't tell the international working class from the international bourgeoisie. But you always were mensheviks first and bolsheviks for clout. How's Corbyn doing, leading the proletarian revolution? Has he got any artillery from his comrade EU bureaucrats in Brussels yet? NO?? Bummer…



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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/05/15/oqst-m15.html

>Trade union leaders call for orderly transition from Starmer to police working class opposition


<Britain’s trade union bureaucracy is working overtime to suppress mounting hostility in the working class to the Labour government, amid the deepening crisis surrounding Keir Starmer’s premiership…
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>>2827781
Nelson Mandela of all people agreed with you

>>2828119
>palestine
>hitlerite nationalism
are you german or israeli? either way tie a knot and hang yourself now. do palestinians want a state for one ethnoreligious group only? no, not even hamas does. do israelis want that? look at their actions the last 75 years or so.

>>2828534
It's pretty funny that it happenned to Cenk after now years of trying to appeal to MAGA and other right wing freaks.

maybe i've just been reading too many insane libertarian cranks, but i can't help but roll my eyes when reading socdems these days. "why doesn't the government simply implement an industrial strategy, throw loads of money at industry, generally slap together a good economy single-handedly instead of relying on the market" motherfucker the government can't build a single railway line, have you looked at the government, if the government ran the supermarkets you'd starve to death. it doesn't matter that this isn't a fundamental law of economic reality and that governments in some places and some times can be competent: your actually-existing government is a joke!
forget industrial strategy and big LARPing photos with re-opened shipyards and coal mines, forget "reversing" neoliberalism that never mostly didn't happen in the first place, if you were given absolute power tomorrow you would spend the next 15 years constructing the fundamental infrastructure for implementing policy and you'd likely still fail. but you won't even do that because you can't even organize a party or a takeover of an existing party, or a fucking think tank. as above: so below!

socialists have the same problem times a thousand. less frustrating than socdems because it's easier to see it's in the realm of pure fantasy, but still eye-rolling: what if instead of the state doing a few things, it did everything? what if we tried new planning mechanisms that have never been tried anywhere, or old ones that failed elsewhere, or this really cool one that totally works in china where the state builds a billion miles of railway a day and beats you up if you put your hand in the till, what if we overthrew the entire existing order of things when so far we haven't even been able to get 15 people to show up to a meeting on wednesday without getting into big arguments about who we'll take our our petty psychosexual frustrations on first once we take absolute power, which will happen any day now.




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the current right wing strategies

  1. thinking magic is real thus circlejerking everything you can into an ergragore

  2. waiting for a caesar to show up

  3. refusing to come to terms with china being socialist and thinking hyper accelerating finance capital will defeat it
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>>2827858
Who exactly are you saying is supporting China here?

>>2827858
Critical support to BJP for crushing reactionary Islamists and Maoist ultras who are proven to mismanage the productive forces. India's GDP growth over the last 30 years proves we must support India. All criticism of India is foreign glowie propaganda whose goal is to hurt India's industrialization.

>>2817297
so magic is just marketing/charisma?

>>2816182
  1. pretending to be communists

>>2817048
Come on, I don't even consider myself that much of a full-on communist, but even I see that China is the most powerful, or second most powerful nation on Earth (depending on the metric).



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Janice Fiamengo is one of the go-to “researchers” among MRAs when it comes to citing an “expert” on feminism to the extent that one of her articles got hosted by kosher right outlet PJ Media and, despite MRAs circle-jerking over her, most feminists have barely heard of her. Indeed, I can only think of one feminist response to her, and it amounts to just an answer post at Quora: https://www.quora.com/What-arguments-do-you-have-for-or-against-Professor-Janice-Fiamengos-view-on-feminism/answer/Frederic-Christie?ch=17&oid=27190247&share=dd688188&srid=3gfRuZ&target_type=answer

I should also note that, in spite of her many interviews with various outlets across the Canadian and American right-o-sphere, she still remains an obscure figure and you’ll never see her ever debate her views on video. Hmm, wonder why? 🤔

I wouldn’t talk about her if it wasn’t for the fact that she is one of the most cited female apologists for the manosphere, and her audience is mostly made up of run-of-the-mill chuds and MAGApedes who circle jerk over her as shown by how almost every result shows her works whenever you type her name on search engines.

Now, while I’m unfamiliar with her academic work in English literature back when she was professor of English at Ottawa university, I am familiar with her anti-feminist polemics and overall right-liberal takes on other matters.

So, first let’s get out of the way and say that she does point out many flaws in the history of feminism such as the disdain towards men shown by even some of the first-wave feminist figures, the elite-driven nature of feminism that runs contrary to the rugged individual image common in the mainstream, as well as the anti-social behaviour they display since the second wave.

But with that said, that’s where my praises for her ends, since I’m really critical of her since despite her facade she is merely an ideologue that uses factoids to spin a narrative that fits into the chudintern’s incessant culture war paradigm.

A key example would be her take on Emmeline Pankhurst and her mail bombing campaign that led to her arrest, as well as her securing female suffrage in exchange for promoting the BriPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Now, as to why MRAs won’t help men? Simply put it, they are just one of many idpol groups whose sole purpose is to divide the working class by pointing to men’s issues without addressing the systemic factors underlying it in favor of culture war-type sloppy narratives that demonise feminists and women but not the capitalists that make men’s lives (as well as women’s) miserable.

Indeed, their portrayal of feminism as all-powerful has been discredited with the repeal of the Roe v Wade by the SCOTUS where feminists were largely incapable of stopping the various state-level anti-abortion legislations. Another discrediting factor is that most MRAs, due to their right-wing proclivities, are often incapable of genuine economic critique as most chuds are, so they often resort to spooks like feminism and boomers and sometimes “woke” to explain away the general degradation of living standards for men of all races

Sure, they may be spot on as it pertains to how society favors women more than men, but apart for a left-wing minority, most MRAs are just chuds so their solutions either amount to “reforming” the stuff they shit on like marriage and family, but not once they ever challenge any of those patriotic institutions that make men’s lives miserable, instead pretending that patriarchy would be good without “gynocentrism”.

Ofc some of those chuddish MRAs do acknowledge how a patriarchy often reconstructs the very things they hate, but they’ll support the right wing anyway just because they find the left “icky” both because the left is pro-equality and because of chuds’ general inability to question their own priors. Indeed, many of those white MRAs turn into MeToo-supporting feminazis whenever news of brown-on-white sex or rape is brought up.

Indeed, since angry young white men get nothing out of voting for right-wing parties, it wouldn’t be wrong to describe them as the battered wives or the cucks of the political spectrum because, as much as African Americans are admonished for overwhelmingly voting Democrat for decades, at least the latter gets something out of it in terms of secured civil service jobs. Angry young chuds get nothing at all in contrast.

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>pre-1914 (tsarist state)
3k bolsheviks
>mar 1917 (provisional state)
80k bolsheviks
>nov 1917 (soviet state)
240k bolsheviks

meow.
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>>2828026
>The peasantry as a whole was a huge blindspot for most early marxists its very weird how they thought they could achieve a revolution and overthrow society with only 10% of the population on their side.
they thought stolypin would turn all the peasants into proles. when that didn't happen they began courting the peasants and did it themselves through rapid industrialization after winning the civil war

>>2828032
>Communism is not a popularity contest nor does it concern itself with vulgar populism and majoritarianism as liberals do.
This sort of apophatic theory where you can only say what Communism is not is so tiring.
> With the exception of the impoverished proletariat the vast majority of any given population will violently oppose communism, necessitating party command of military force
well obviously force must be used to carry out a revolution, there are plenty of countries that have an impoverished proletarian majority, and those are the countries where revolution is most likely to succeed. because surprise surprise, it's easier to carry out your political program when you aren't seen as yet another ruling minority that rules at the expense of a majority, which, surprise surprise, even most impoverished proles dislike seeing. Unless you think the proles are sadistic little gremlins who enjoy it when the peasantry, petty bourgeoisie, lumpen also get stomped into dust by the ruling class.

>>2828022
They were a very popular party. In what world is a party winning 25% of the popular vote not popular? Millions of people voted for them so it's only natural that hundreds of thousands would join the party. Returning to the OP, this can also be seen in Duma elections under the Tsar where the estate-based unrepresentative electoral system set aside only a small fraction of seats to be elected by workers (with a restrictive franchise at that), the Bolsheviks won all the seats in the workers curia even then under conditions of repression and illegality. So while the party membership number may create an illusion (often repeated by modern leninists of all stripes) of the bolsheviks being this elite tiny vanguard that explodes in popularity in the revolutionary situation based on their correct theory, the truth is the bolsheviks has been the deeply entrenched party of the russian proletariat for two decades at that point, with their papers having substantial circulation and winning deputies even under the insanely unrepresentative duma electoral system. If anything the notable thing in 1917 is the growth of Bolshevik support among peasants based on their opposition to the war and support for land seizures which helps peel of the bulk of the SRs to the side of the soviets.
As for the constituent assembly elections, they obviously didn't have the support of a majority of the entire population but they absolutely did have the support of a vast majority of proletarians actually who overwhelmingly voted for the Bolsheviks, hence their very large majorities in urban constituencies, also large majorities in army and naval garrisons reflecting their overwhelming support among soldiers and sailors. The demographics of russia being as they were even getting every single proletarian behind you wouldn't be close to enough to reach 50% of the vote, the country was majority peasant and the peasants though many voted for the Bolsheviks too, overwhelmingly backed the SRs and the fate of the constituent assembly had far more to do with the Socialist Revolutionary party than the bolsheviks, since the party split during the elections with a majority of the party's base and activists being expelled for their support of soviet power and the revolution, while the rump party leadership, which in reality had now very little support reduced to the progressive intelligentPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2828177
It's also worth noting that the Bolsheviks were aware of the limits of their popularity and sought to address this issue by offering the SRs a coalition.




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Trump, Director of the Federal Bureau of Prisons, and Justice Department are trying to lower the threshold for executions, and also expand firing squards to "reduce prison overcrowding".
I think this is officially the start of a genocide.

>The announcement was the latest in a series of moves President Donald Trump’s administration has taken demonstrating support for the death penalty. Trump has long been an avid supporter of capital punishment, and during his first term, the Justice Department carried out its first federal executions in nearly two decades.


>Since Trump’s return to the White House last year, his administration has lifted a moratorium on federal executions and pushed for more death sentences. Trump and other officials have also repeatedly castigated President Joe Biden for commuting the sentences of 37 of the 40 people on federal death row shortly before he left office.


>In a bold and controversial move, William K. Marshall III, the newly appointed Director of the Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP), has proposed significant reforms aimed at addressing the pressing issue of prison overcrowding. Since his swearing-in on April 21, 2025, Marshall has advocated for a major lowering of the threshold for capital punishment and the expansion of firing squad executions.

>Marshall, who oversees approximately 156,000 federal inmates and 36,000 staff members across 122 BOP facilities, is no stranger to the complexities of law enforcement. His extensive career began with the West Virginia State Police, where he was lauded as the 1995 National Association of Police Organizations West Virginia Police Officer of the Year. Following his retirement in 2017 after 25 years of service, Marshall's leadership roles in corrections have uniquely positioned him to address issues plaguing the prison system.
>In a recent interview on NBC’s "Meet the Press," Marshall stated, "We need to reevaluate our approach to capital punishment and consider options that reflect the realities of our overcrowded prisons. By lowering the execution threshold and expanding firing squad executions, we can not only deter crime but also bring a sense of closure to the families of victims." He expressed a belief that the current process is often drawn out and unnecessarily complicated, contributing to the burden on Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2795672
those are the most likely types of criminals that will be an easy sell to the centrists for a mass execution campaign.

Up

>>2795602
I can't wait for the feds to plant drugs on you

Do not let any leftoid tell you that you are overreacting.

Every dead Amerikkkan is a victory for the world’s working class



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>>2828244
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>>2828245
whine impotently on the internet

>>2828250
thanks for your honesty

>>2828094
I thought one of the funnier things about the French Revolution was how every group accused the others of being traitors and secretly working with foreign governments. Many such cases.



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I think it’s interesting to observe the pattern of technological development in Africa compared to NATO. A lot of what’s being made there is surprisingly specific, pragmatic, and efficient compared to many new western technologies that often serve as solutions to problems western companies make.

Technologies built around mobile systems; efficient use of clay, cement, and steel metals; decentralized utility and logistics systems; a lot of work related to solar power which im happy for; some oddly specific technological developments surrounding armoured cars, surveillance, and border security etc.

From what I infer a lot of this behaviour is driven organically by the geographic conditions of the continent in general. Many of the resources on the continent are stretched across vast distances, sparse/scarce in supplies, and broken up by unusually poor terrain. This often means that any technological developments made are unusually way more specific, pragmatic, and efficient in use for immediate and existing problems compared to tech made outside of it where figures or promises on features surrounding what the tech can do. Sometimes, this does *alot* to change how people approach life. It’s only recently that a lot of changes were made so that desert sands and earth could be used conventionally at scale to produce modular construction kit—this is huge on construction in general since it offers a way to build on the scale that china did *without causing the same level of ecological destruction*.



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