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revolution in the imperial core is unlikely but highly necessary because there is no stronger imperialist force that can come in from the outside and ruin the revolution. the third world is more immiserated and has had mores successful revolutions, but those revolutions get rolled back by CIA coups, sanctions, bombs, opportunism, revisionism, etc. the opportunism and revisionism is usually a side effect of trying to protect the gains of the revolution from a stronger outside force without being suicidal. the core would not have to do this. they are the strongest force. who's gonna bomb and sanction america if it has a revolution? china? iran? russia? DPRK? Give me a break.
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>>2876565
>so the revolution will only come when TWD happens
this has to be some far right accelerationist trolling leftists trying to get them more racial and hateful lmao

>>2887920
>If you do not destroy the unproductive right-wing parasites you will not develop the productive forces
Revisionist
>If you do not develop the productive forces, you will not have communism
We know, we’re still not doing Dengism
>You want a crisis induced by falling rates of profit but you reject the notion of reducing the profits extracted by rent seekers by subjecting them to competition.
No
>Tell me, anon, why do you love American car dealers so much?
We really don’t

>>2876600
>a homeless in the we$$t kkkan eat heckkkin mcdonald$$!!
Thirdie-neoliberal synthesis

>>2876646
ok this just brings us full circle back to OP which argues that revolution in the imperial core is necessary even though it hasn't happenedy et

>>2876653
That's actually pretty despicable behavior and how you see substance users really tells me a lot about you.



 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/clyey5glv4ko
Increased security for England and Argentina tie

<Authorities say there will be increased security measures in place for Wednesday's World Cup semi-final between England and Argentina.


>The pair will resume one of international football's most storied rivalries at the Atlanta Stadium, as England bid to defeat the defending champions and reach their first World Cup final since 1966.


>Atlanta police are aware of historical tensions between the two countries.
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https://kaygreen.blog/2026/08/09/the-alarming-tale-of-the-far-right-bookshop-in-rural-suffolk/
>TERF who edited Glinner's memoir is shocked to find that all their TERF pals support a far-right bookshop
<For many prominent GCs who genuinely started out on the left, it’s clear that hanging out on the right, taking pay cheques from UnHerd, The Critic, Spiked and The Spectator, and knowing they’ll get a sympathetic ear from Julia Hartley-Brewer of Talk TV or Josh Howie of GB News, has meant they end up sounding very like their new right-wing friends. Cheering for Israel and abusing anyone who opposes the genocide of Palestinians has become de rigueur for many vocal GCs.
<When some of them embrace obsessive anti-Muslim racists who happen to be GC, it feels like they’re not doing it despite the Islamophobia, but because of it. This distortion of values doesn’t escape trans rights activists. As one mocked the other day: ‘You could not write a better punchline to the “protect women and girls” TERF academics joke, than them all coming out to eulogise the wife-beating paedophile Rod Liddle.’
<Someone else at SiP told me she hated the far right but would ‘link arms with whoever I have to’ on the issue of gender ideology. This is a familiar position, but I would suggest it’s not actually true. Yes, they’ll work with anyone on the right. But if you’re the kind of deranged ‘tankie’ and ‘Hamas apologist’ who thinks it’s bad to shoot Gazan kids in the head for target practice, they don’t want to know you.
they're so close to getting it. (but then go down the blind alley of wanting a new TERF left grouping instead, which will always in the end lead to you the grotesque spectacle of the CPB praising the Supreme Court and British Government.)

>>2890153
>Someone else at SiP told me she hated the far right but would ‘link arms with whoever I have to’ on the issue of gender ideology

Every single time lmao, it's like being anti-trans is a brain worm that overrides everything else they supposedly believe in, also why I cringe at "anti-idpol" types

You just know those types of "people" would be bitching about the DDR, not because of anything related to revisionism or anything along those lines but because of their position on trans people

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5th heatwave of the year, 35c summers in the north of England, everything is dead, dry, the lakes are mostly shrivelled up and GONE…
Yes still 2 of the 3 largest political parties straight up deny climate change, and all 3 of them want to open more oil drilling sites.

If anything as it gets hotter, the rate of denial increases.
The Tories of 10 to 20 years ago - despite how abhorrently vile and evil they were in all conceivable ways - at the least acknowledged climate change is real. Can't say that about them under Kemi…




 

We haven't had this thread in a while so I'm bringing it back. >>>/leftypol/2851498 says mods will remove it so I am proving it wrong.

The Zionist Entity is a genocidal settler-colonial apartheid state set up by the European and North American powers to colonize the middle east. Even early zionists like Theodor Herzl understood Israel in these explicitly settler-colonial terms. Here is Herzl speaking in the 1800s, when Palestine was still Ottoman territory:

>If His Majesty the Sultan were to give us Palestine, we could offer to resolve Turkey’s finances. For Europe, we would form part of a bulwark against Asia there, we would serve as the advance post of civilisation against barbarism.


So Theodor Herzel felt not only that European people were entitled to Palestine over the people already living there (including Ottoman Jews), but that the presence of "civilized" Europeans in Israel would form a "bulwark" (forward operating base(offensive, not defensive)) against Asia, which entire continent Herzl racistly characterized as "barbaric."

Herzl was born on May 2nd , 1860 in Budapest, Hungary to a family of German speaking assimilated Jews. His father, Jakob, was a wealthy businessman and the young Theodor was expected to enter politics or engineering by his parents. In a sense, he did not disappoint, as Herzl was destined to become the father of political Zionism. While Herzl never saw his Jewish state during his lifetime, his ideology remains so influential that even today he is considered the father of Israel.

Herzl’s birthday is a holiday in Israel, his grave is a national monument, the organization he founded is still active today and the largest mountain in the country was re-named in his honor. It is not an exaggeration to say that Herzl and his ideology remain central to Zionism.

As a young man, Herzl was a fanatic Germanophile. He believed that if Jews simply tried hard enough, they could become “Germanized” and shake off what he called “shameful Jewish characteristics.” Herzl viewed German culture and language as inherently superior to that of the reviled working-class Yiddish speaking Jews. At first, he believed that Jews should be Germanized, arguing that Eastern European Jews were so "savage" and backwards that they must learn the very concepts of beauty and nobility by studying the works of authors like Goethe and Shakespeare. He initially envisionPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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China reaffirms support for an independent Palestinian state
The head of the Chinese office in Palestine has reiterated China’s unwavering commitment to the Palestinian cause, according to the Wafa news agency.

Sun Zhen also expressed China’s willingness to continue humanitarian and development assistance and to strengthen Sino-Palestinian relations to new levels.

At a news conference at the Chinese Embassy in Ramallah, the ambassador said that during his meetings with Palestinian leaders, he had witnessed the extent of the injustices inflicted upon the Palestinian people.

He reaffirmed that China would continue its efforts to deepen bilateral relations, as this year also marks the third anniversary of the establishment of a strategic partnership between China and Palestine.
https://aje.news/mcmsi9?update=4826031

>>2883455
but they le trade

Can anyone share the interview with the Palestine Authority general at the end???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT8j5STDwf8

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>This little girl… what does she wish for? She says: “I wish I could travel, get treatment, and be like other children… I wish my skin would heal.”

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No bait no rageful discussion just honest question, Why was he so hated?

It seems to me that By all means he is an orthodox marxist and his writings perfectly fine. And his criticisms of the USSR seem non-objectionable to most people (Totalitarianism is bad, More party discourse needed, More worker democracy, etc.)

Why is he so hated among many marxist circles? Hate doesn't describe it, He is thoroughly despised.
I'm all ears. and will respond if I have time.
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As general of the red army he massively failed the iberation of Europe by attacking Poland while the USSR was still weak and fighting Romanov loyalists, as a result of which future leaders had to pull shit out of Siberia's ass to fund African rebels instead of using pre-established French factories

He replaced marxism with social degeneration theory and class with "bureaucratic stratum", making him the arch revisionist

Is combined and uneven development theory any good? Is it useful?

>>2888198
Poland was lost because of Stalins fault. He delayed the attack.

>>2856178
He just had a really, really annoying personality. Other than that he was fine.



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Following Putin's advice, China is very closely. Interesting to see them planning a war like Putin even with Putin's advice.

Economy option? No.
Follow trade rules? No.

>>2888747
Might as well drop some open intel about illegally developed devices and illegally imported devices by China through the ports.

Huawei is importing electromagnetic components without markings.

There is multiple Chinese money printed funded housing deals which occurred for land acquisition for spy purposes.

There is multiple police stations which were operating for the Chinese communist party illegally persecuting individuals illegally.

There is multiple ill-obtained ports.

There is an undermining Chinese force within universities which are mainly operating for militaristic purposes which include generating underwater military technology, civilian surveillance, labor party infiltration assets, illegal identities are used from multiple Chinese satellite neighboring countries.

Biolabs have operated illegally and are suspected to have targeted the population.

why would Chyna invade Cuck Island when they can just wait for the US to collapse?



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I fucking despise roaders. They have completely ossified mindsets and won't ever change their minds no matter how much I argue (and I argue constantly for the most minor points) while I will publicly criticise myself if I was found to have taken a wrong line. Like they just ignore any evidence I bring up about the fascist state of China. Roaders are set in their ways and won't ever change, they are ideological zombies and the only way to deal with them is to put a bullet in their head and eliminate an enemy to socialism.

Anti-revisionism thread
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>>2888260
I think we just had different understandings of what the lumpen-proletariat were. I've honestly ignored writings on the lumpen-proletariat because they are usually very chauvinistic or unfair. More than that I just think what a lot of people say about them isn't really objective or scientific. I'm unconvinced by what Marx, Engels and Lenin had to say about them, and I'm more convinced by what Mao and later Maoists had to say about working with the lumpen-proletariat as a major allied force like the peasants can be (even though you are totally correct that only the working class can be strictly revolutionary).

What I have been using lumpen for just means anyone who is "unclassed", who doesn't have a direct relation to the means of production or work. Like I'd say students are very similar to the lumpen (at least the idea of the lumpen I was thinking of. I might have been using terms imprecisely.

Still I'm not sure about why you consider these people 'the brokest of the broke capitalists', or having an 'aristocratic soul'. It's basically a moral judgement that that is very similar to how the state attacks long-term unemployed people. Nobody would work if they didn't have to, I'm not sure that's aristocratic in any way.

Idk it all feels very moral to me. Like 'they're not revolutionary because they're all leeches and criminals'. So like, why does that matter? Doesn't that make them more likely to side with the revolution? Also, I think the lumpen-proletariat is difficult to define even as a class itself. I think it might be better to just call these people unclassed and dispel the moral attachments of the lumpen-proletariat. My opinion has not been completely solidified yet and I'm still unsure about things.

I kind of think they are uniquely revolutionary along with the working class, because it isn't really a class. So of course there are plenty of unclassed people with working class consciousness or who are just unemployed proletarians, who in every meaningful way are proletarian. But there are also unclassed people with bourgeois consciousness (criminals who think they are going to get rich). Also there are plenty of unclassed people with feudal / pre-capitalist consciousnesses as well in the colonised countries. Idk, I just don't think the lumpen-proletariat is necessarily a useful term.

>>2888312
Said that wrong, I don't think they are uniquely revolutionary along with the working class, I don't think they could ever be the driving force because only the working class has the direct need to end exploitation, but I think unclassed people are much more 'revolutionary' than even the peasants are.

Without the cultural revolution there will be no socialism. Sorry!

>>2886812
>>2886831
>>2886819
How nice of you ""communists"" to self-report that you take communism so unseriously you literally can't even imagine it, or what it would take to establish it.
>""Left"" ""com""
As if I ever doubted it.

>>2888612
Squeaker



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🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Aux armes, citoyens ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
Thread #2

French people deserve a safe space and guarantees for their continued existence on loser imageboards!

Français! Ne succombez pas à l'impérialisme anglochiotte!
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>>2883276
Le probleme de picrel c'est que preque tout les maghrebins appellent leur fils Mohamed/Abdel/Mehdi alors que seul les Français un peu bobo ou catho tradi donnent des noms Français "tradi" à leur gosse, les français prolos ayant opté pour des noms Italiens (enzo), Irlandais (Kevin), provenant de films Dysney (Elsa) ou bien des abominations comme Thiméo à partir des années 90.

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Le Mossad envoie pas ses meilleurs agents, mais pourquoi Rima Hassan se promène seule un an avant les élections ? J'ai l'impression que LFI est pas prêt pour les coups de pressions et les dingueries qu'ils vont se prendre chaque jour. Mélenchon se fait déjà traiter d'agent russe et doit se mettre à genoux pour condamner des vidéos en IA sur Glucksmann

Nous les trots, nous appuyons Mélenchon

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qui d'autre que Lui?

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Que pensez-vous de Vincent Lapierre ?



 

Has any capitalist state fell back to feudalism? Reading Marx I get the sense that once a change in the mode of production happens it does not reverse and this is what we see from the most developed areas entering capitalism. If this is the case then failed AES states didn't actually change their mode of production and the possibility that socialism just as every other change in the MoP can still only come from the most advanced areas of society.
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>>2886524
Those Italian city-states did not have a Capitalist Mode of Production, which starts with a restructuring of agricultural lands. They were only proto-capitalist in the sense of being dominated by merchant capital. But merchant capital has existed and has played major roles in society since the earliest societies recorded in history.

one could argue that we are in a state of feudalism right now. everything is owned by a few huge corporations that don't really have any competition, consumer agency is pretty much non-existent, we don't really buy goods or services anymore we just pay rent for access to them and the rent is constantly going up and we have nowhere else to go to find a better deal, and the same goes for our jobs that we rely on for everything, our employers dole out the minimum amount of money they can get away with paying us for our work and we cannot form unions or have any kind of leverage because our employers are hyperwealthy multinationals who can hire scabs from anywhere in the world to replace us, and now even conjure up non-human scabs to replace us spun up by some even bigger and more evil tech corporation.

>>2885942

I think with that level centralization and state direction of economy its closer to an Asiatic mode of production than feudalism. Think the Qin dynasty.

The American South had feudalism until mechanized cotton picking machines. Not all the feudal lords were white, some were black. The white land lords (referred to as "the man", this is where this idiom comes from) would cheat sharecroppers of their labor, often extracting 90-95% of profit through exploiting illiteracy, innumeracy, and exacting political violence against organizers. The black feudal landlords sometimes did the opposite, funding schools and paying sharecroppers half profits. However, when these sharecroppers got their payments (all at once for the whole year,) often they would just buy a car a drive off to a city up north or out west somewhere.

Afghanistan



 

>Never become the leader of any socialist country

>Fucking die


>Commies keep denying your word for decades


>A century later your writings becomes fundamental in modern Marxist thought


Ts is where China got their "do nothing, win" strategy from
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why stalin kill bukharin

>>2880994
>the mass slaughter of Ukrainians and Balts
Nevee happened

>>2880859

Actually the Soviet leadership did begin mobilizing & moving more troops to the border in anticipation of an impending Naxi attack, its just that it was not fully completed with the troops properly dug in.

>>2881068
>stalin
>destroy zionism

Which of his works are worth reading?



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how can low birthrates and immigration both be a problem? it would seem to me that one ought to compensate for the other. if you're worried about the population of your country decreasing then you should be happy that new people are coming in to bolster your numbers. if you are worried about the population being too high, then you should be happy that people aren't having as many babies.

and let's face it, neither of these things are issues that anyone can really do anything about. you can't make millions of people have sex and produce babies more often and you can't stop millions of people from entering a country. human behavior at this scale is basically like the weather, you can't control it or do anything about it and there's no sense in whining about it, all you can really do is just accept it and adapt to it.
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Low birthrates are fine because we're 8billion on this planet

Immigration is fine because I'm not a racist.

Who cares about "economies"


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>>2863910
>>2864254
>You are comparing apples to oranges here. The law distinguishes between the possession of CSAM and the possession of images depicting torture.

Yes, because of double standards. What’s new under the sun?

>The harm identified by psychologists is not just the act of taking the photo but the inability of the victim to ever fully move past the event because the evidence of their exploitation is always accessible to strangers.


Again, more metaphysical bullshit that can equally apply to the pictures of Abu Ghraib tortured detainees and Phan Thi Kim Phuc as a girl (a.k.a., Napalm girl). Again, it’s just a bullshit excuse made up by the pigs to justify state repression. Why do you support the pigs on this endeavour?

I also can’t help but notice that you’re relying on muh feelz to justify state censorship like KOSA. I got an embarrassing video of myself posted on FB. Should the law now be changed so that everyone in possession of said video should be arrested so that I can move on from the exploitation?

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>>2883449
>People aren't interchangeable, there's a reason why national characteristics exist.

yeah that's why racists throw screeching fits about immigration and decreasing white birthrates and the normalization of interracial couples producing brown children, because they are so confident in their theories of biological incompatibility between human beings who don't look exactly alike. that's why horny drunk white soldiers have raped native women and left behind whole generations of halfbreed bastards in every country they have ever invaded, because geographically-distant humans are like cats and dogs and there's just no possible connection between them. it's just a weird coincidence that american indians have slanty eyes and straight black hair like east asians do and that north america and east asia happened to be connected by a land bridge 15,000 years ago, these are clearly two completely separate sets of "national characteristics" that have nothing in common. or if they do, then they still have nothing in common with white people, because white people are pure and have no connection to the various subhuman races, white people came from atlantis and were descended from the ancient high elves of the hyperborea.

>>2887800
They're already offshored everything but okay

  1. Birth rates are decreasing everywhere.

  2. Uncontrolled migration, especially of a mass kind, can create tensions, divisions, and even violence amongst the working class.


What capitalist countries tend to do is mass important foreign labourers within short time frames. Then tensions rise for both cultural & economic reasons, with wage compression, working conditions deteriorating or unemployment rising amongst low skilled workers (in the case of a lot of illegal or grey market migration)

Especially in the aftermath of recessions, sections of the bourgeois media apparatus direct the target of peoples anger towards migrants, which protects the bourgeois and the capitalism system (albeit imperfectly)



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