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>anti-imperialist be like
>NOOOO YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO KILL AND EXPLOIT WORKERS WITHIN THE ARBITRARY MADE UP ETHNIC BOUNDARIES OF YOUR NATION STATE!!!!

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>antiimperialists be like
<let us solve climate change and rationally organize production

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uphold D2W (Dengism-2nd-Worldism)



 

We haven't had this thread in a while so I'm bringing it back. >>>/leftypol/2851498 says mods will remove it so I am proving it wrong.

The Zionist Entity is a genocidal settler-colonial apartheid state set up by the European and North American powers to colonize the middle east. Even early zionists like Theodor Herzl understood Israel in these explicitly settler-colonial terms. Here is Herzl speaking in the 1800s, when Palestine was still Ottoman territory:

>If His Majesty the Sultan were to give us Palestine, we could offer to resolve Turkey’s finances. For Europe, we would form part of a bulwark against Asia there, we would serve as the advance post of civilisation against barbarism.


So Theodor Herzel felt not only that European people were entitled to Palestine over the people already living there (including Ottoman Jews), but that the presence of "civilized" Europeans in Israel would form a "bulwark" (forward operating base(offensive, not defensive)) against Asia, which entire continent Herzl racistly characterized as "barbaric."

Herzl was born on May 2nd , 1860 in Budapest, Hungary to a family of German speaking assimilated Jews. His father, Jakob, was a wealthy businessman and the young Theodor was expected to enter politics or engineering by his parents. In a sense, he did not disappoint, as Herzl was destined to become the father of political Zionism. While Herzl never saw his Jewish state during his lifetime, his ideology remains so influential that even today he is considered the father of Israel.

Herzl’s birthday is a holiday in Israel, his grave is a national monument, the organization he founded is still active today and the largest mountain in the country was re-named in his honor. It is not an exaggeration to say that Herzl and his ideology remain central to Zionism.

As a young man, Herzl was a fanatic Germanophile. He believed that if Jews simply tried hard enough, they could become “Germanized” and shake off what he called “shameful Jewish characteristics.” Herzl viewed German culture and language as inherently superior to that of the reviled working-class Yiddish speaking Jews. At first, he believed that Jews should be Germanized, arguing that Eastern European Jews were so "savage" and backwards that they must learn the very concepts of beauty and nobility by studying the works of authors like Goethe and Shakespeare. He initially envisionPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>Israeli lawyer Yehuda Shimon has gone viral for calling for the complete extermination of the Palestinian people because he views one Jewish life as equivalent to one million Palestinian lives.

>He said God has chosen them and that the Bible authorizes all of the land as belonging to them.


>"That just sounds racist."


>"Yes, I know."


Interviewer should've asked him how many British or whatever Western goy lives is worth compared to a Jewish life. Such an easy own. He kind of more or less said it when he started going on about how Westerners are jealous of Jews for being chosen.

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https://thecradle.co/articles-id/39131
Israeli energy minister says no deal reached to halt attacks on Gaza as killings continue
<Israeli pilots killed nine Palestinians on Sunday, days after Trump announced an agreement to disarm Hamas under the auspices of the Board of Peace

Speaking to Army Radio (GLZ), Israeli Energy Minister Eli Cohen said that "there has not been a cabinet discussion [on the Gaza plan] in the past 72 hours."

"Any armed actor who operates, threatens, that is involved with terrorism, we will eliminate him," said Cohen, who is a member of the top-level security cabinet.

Cohen added that he saw a need for Israel, which directly occupies 70 percent of the strip, to take full control of it.

Rumors that Israel agreed to end Gaza strikes emerged Sunday morning due to a statement posted to social media by UAE-based Palestinian politician Mohammad Dahlan of Fatah.

Dahlan claimed that US President Donald Trump's advisor and son-in-law, Jared Kushner, told him Israel had agreed to halt its strikes on Gaza starting Sunday as part of ongoing negotiations between Hamas and Trump's Board of Peace.

Dahlan has since retracted the claim, which came days after Hamas agreed to a disarmament plan with Board of Peace director general Nickolay Mladenov.
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>>2882767
wow abrahamoids believe God has chosen them over the other abrahamoids and that they are obligated to rape and genocide everyone, who could have seen this coming Deuteronomy 7:1-10

China reaffirms support for an independent Palestinian state
The head of the Chinese office in Palestine has reiterated China’s unwavering commitment to the Palestinian cause, according to the Wafa news agency.

Sun Zhen also expressed China’s willingness to continue humanitarian and development assistance and to strengthen Sino-Palestinian relations to new levels.

At a news conference at the Chinese Embassy in Ramallah, the ambassador said that during his meetings with Palestinian leaders, he had witnessed the extent of the injustices inflicted upon the Palestinian people.

He reaffirmed that China would continue its efforts to deepen bilateral relations, as this year also marks the third anniversary of the establishment of a strategic partnership between China and Palestine.
https://aje.news/mcmsi9?update=4826031

>>2883455
but they le trade



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>>2880895
Bezaubernde Dame. Dein Problem?

>>2882976
Biitte nicht schubsen, hab Pilsator im Rucksack.

aa

warum wurde der clip über nick land gelöscht?

>>2883033
Fein gemacht.



 

Blackpill time: Solidarity is something you, as a worker, have for other members of the working class. Solidarity is the foundation of organizing as a worker within the working class, but solidarity cannot be shared as a revolutionary with other revolutionaries, with other people who are seeking to change the system or seeking power. Any power that you do not grasp will be used against you. It's gangsterism all the way up. The comrades that you work with today will be the same comrades that stab you in the back when the revolution comes. Doesn't mean you don't work with them, it just means you check behind you every so often, and never forget that you can't have solidarity with those that would stab you in the back. The history of revolution is full of backstabs and betrayals. The fact that any of us even work together is a miracle. Because as you are working with some of these people, know that they are planning on stabbing you in the back the same way that Trotsky did, the same way that the communists did in Spain.

Don't get captured and remember that any power that you do not seek and use against those who could use it against you will be used against you. Don't get played like we got played before. The anarchist that denies power for moralistic ideologue's sake is the anarchist that ends up shot by the "communist" in the back of the head.
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>>2883365
Communists aren’t truly leftists. Communists are above leftism in truth.

>>2883365
Can you really call yourself a leftist if you don't have a list of comrades you want killed after you take power?

>>2883365
marx doomed communism to be co-opted by crypto-socdems when he kicked anarchists out of the first international

>so you're going to let the peasants have their autonomous communes within the framework of the USSR right? like a special autonomous zone?
>oh actually you're not and all of the people who fought with you have to die
>oh you have to kill everyone else that struggled for revolution to "save it"
>one must imagine the state of China if Mao had Deng killed for revisionism
>what do you mean your "revolutionary" project only lasted 70 years
>what do you mean the Ukraine and Russia are currently at war sending formerly united proles to kill each other
>i'm sure that history didn't reverberate here and if we just repeat exactly what the bolsheviks did with no changes and zero look at the last 100 years of history, we can win

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>>2883499
marx:
>Bakunin has become a monster, a huge mass of flesh and fat, and is barely capable of walking any more. To crown it all, he is sexually perverse and jealous of the seventeen year-old Polish girl who married him in Siberia because of his martyrdom.

bakunin:
<By origin Marx is a Jew. One might say that he combines all of the positive qualities and all of the short comings of that capable race. A nervous man, some say to the point of cowardice, he is extremely ambitious and vain, quarrelsome, intolerant, and absolute, like Jehovah, the Lord God of his ancestors, and, like him, vengeful to the point of madness. There is no lie or calumny that he would not invent and disseminate against anyone who had the misfortune to arouse his jealousy – or his hatred, which amounts to the same thing. And there is no intrigue so sordid that he would hesitate to engage in it if in his opinion (which is for the most part mistaken) it might serve to strengthen his position and his influence or extend his power



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These fags want to remove the age of consent laws and normalize pedophilia
They think Trump will do that by making people ignore his involvement in child abuse
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>>2821418

Crakkkers and WASPS have a long and ancient tradition of child rape, and torture for fun, even within their own family structures. The white elite have sold their daughters for favors from other bourgeoise for decades, generations, years, and royal white crakkker families have been involved in global rape for ages is this surprising? The arizona police deparment are some of the most vile imperialist zionist swine out there, they killed multiple comrades and covered it up. they put hits out on good people with neo-nazis, one of them ordering their killers on stormfront named jared 88, this is all i could find related to the murders. everything related was wiped from the internet, and the phoenix PD were in on it. Jared 88 is and was involved with mob members in witness protection, who were players in the organized human trafficking of minors.

>>2838501
Do you have any articles about the arizona police?

>>2397979

Low tier epstein drone.

bumping

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Despite some of the inherited Leftist rhetoric, a lot of modern Leftoids and especially American ones, jfc, just come across as hating and despising most ordinary people. If you think they are irredeemably racist and sexist, patriarchal, white supremacist, contaminated with so many 'bad ideas' and the 'muck of ages' that they need to be 'deprogrammed' before they can begin to be part of your oh so effective attractive politics (lol), any notion that the Left is interested in, let alone capable of, helping to produce a mass workers' movement will just not be credible. If your party is full of people who are agoraphobic shut-ins who won't be told that if they want to be ultra radical activist whatevers then they need to speak to normal people and be marginally normal, then you'll be laughed at, and with good reason.

Normies look at the actually existing Left, what it claims for itself and what it claims to be wanting to do, the immense difficulty of it, and they laugh and they do not want to touch it, with their lack of time, money and energy, *and they are not wrong to do so*. It isn't (all) 'muh false consciousness'.

You cannot be seen as just a performatively radical subculture which despises, in practice, most normal people. You cannot fear populist politics because gasp you may have to rub shoulders with people with some dodgy and confused politics. That is the name of the game.

This is why griftoids like ACP get some of the credibility they do because at least they are willing to say the emperor has no clothes and not to just hate normal people.

This sentiment really is the dominant attitude of so much of the Left and it fizzes off so many of us all the time. And I hate it.

Just a vent. Needed to be said.
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>>2871913
>Its funny how these classes never applied the class warfare logic to their own ideas.
Well Lenin said somewhere that socialism springs not from the workers but from bourgeois intellectuals, so I though that was kinda honest of him. Also funny how it makes conservatives right when they complain that proles are obedient boys and girls and it's those meddling socialists who stir up trouble. Otherwise the workers would just ask for unions and higher wages.

>>2880830
Nobody actually enjoys dating.

>>2871913
>their hatred for the "idiocy of rural life" reflects a latent hatred for the environment, which imposes hard biological limits on the utopian fantasies of such intellectuals.
I genuinely don't understand who would make such posts. The only image that comes to mind is an Emirati or equivalent with a severe deficit of self-awareness. Because any human being who's actually stuck against a "biological reality" holds extreme contempt for his circumstances and wishes for nothing more than to overcome it, like a mother that just lost another child out of the half humans biologically lose without modern medicine. Or a peasant whose friend died because of another crop failure. Nothing is more human than overcoming these obstacles.

>>2880887
Put down the epstein slop on your phone

>>2880830
already did all that shit and it gets boring



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Marxism is part of Western culture. It's the combination of English political economy (e.g. Mill, Ricardo, Smith), French socialism (e.g. Fourier, Proudhon, Saint-Simon) and German philosophy (e.g. Hegel, Fichte, Feuerbach).

What is anti-Western about it?
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>>2883005
That's literally how rightard brain works m8.

>>2883005
>wrong
often true

>>2883013
No, the reason they dislike it is because they have been indocinatred with a unquestioning anti-communist dogma for all of their lives. And the "Founding Fathers" only wanted freedom for themselves and other rich people. They never wanted the average person to be free. Most people in the early USA couldn't even vote. You had to own land in order to vote and be white and male.

>>2883016
The guy you are replying to obviously knows that. He was answering OP's question from a the perspective of a hypothetical stupid reactionary which he does not share… are you able to critically reason from a perspective which you do not hold for the purposes of answering a question? Yes? Good. Now wouldn't it be frustrating if someone took you literally after you did that?

>>2883158
bro literally lacks the critical thinking skills to realize anon was answering from a hypothetical rightard perspective.



 

South Korea has double the population of North Korea, but South Korea only has half as many babies as North Korea. Which economic feature of capitalism causes this?
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>>2883420
>but getting to be a high-flying revolutionary on a level with Lenin
It's a task we must pursue anon, but dont expect enjoyment.

>>2883364
>I don’t even think a higher population would even be good right now until climate change is sorted out
How is an aging population and larger part of the working age population dedicated to caring for the old and infirm going to contribute to the conversion of the world economy into a green sustainable one?

>>2883437
they will go out in the sun and die of heatstroke don't worry (also there won't be that many people who take those jobs in the first place and wages aren't gonna grow,so 1 guy will need to take care of 20 elders by himself for minimum wage)

>>2883437
>How is an aging population and larger part of the working age population dedicated to caring for the old and infirm going to contribute to the conversion of the world economy into a green sustainable one?
The world economy is going to collapse, so that’s not a question I would be worried about.

You have to realize most olds want to die in their giant homes surrounded by their possessions like Pharos of old, it won’t be your responsibility as a young beyond clearing their hoard out and demolishing the house



 

"Crush the crackers into crumbs" or "CCC" for short, it's alliterative so it just rolls off the tongue like poetry. Replace C with K and triple the Ks for Maoist Standard English version. 🔥✍️
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No struggle but class struggle kys op

>>2883007
Anti-whitism is central to leftism. Same as being pro-trans. Leftists can and will and have dropped everything to preserve these core ideologies. You might not like it but that's how it is.

>>2883116
>pic
that's interesting, so why are all western "marxist" class reductionist (including leftypol), but all have "nuanced" takes on imperialist wars?

>>2883288
>all western "marxist" class reductionist (including leftypol)
LMAO

>>2883288
>class reductionist
digits check out



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the structural position of trade unions in this historical moment is legitimization of the exploitation of labor-power and normalizing neoliberal incursions into rights which the working class movement wrestled from the bourgeoisie during the last century
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You are right. This is why in the the internationalist communists reject the bureaucrat-reformist or "tricolor" unions, which forbids strikes
and instead go for the rank-and-file class unions.


agree but you get rid of them and the neoliberal incursion becomes an avalanche

>>2883153
Neoliberalism is overhated. The biggest crime of neoliberalism, like Keynesianism before it, is that its inability to resolve its own structural contradictions invariably leads to a collapse, but unlike Keynesianism before it what it is collapsing into is naked barbarism absent any merit whatsoever. (Where else can you go from a blundered "Just let people do things" program?)
The second biggest crime is that its biggest and most prominent proponent figures like Thatcher, Reagan, Hayek and to a slightly lesser degree Friedman were all psychotic weirdos. The economists offered some genuine insight, but the politicians would endorse any ideology that let them hurt people. This unfortunately muddies the waters compared to the general humanism of Keynesian softies.

Unions are something of a red herring in terms of "things neoliberalism ruined". The most strongly anti-union neoliberals were generally also those who most effectively blundered the doctrine the most. (e.g. Thatcher actively smashed unions, but most of her privatisations were fake and her centralising agenda and general tendency has actively lead to Britain becoming a more regulated, less market oriented society.) Britain nevertheless has a higher unionisation rate than Australia, which had a much softer approach where unions voluntarily initiated the structural changes that lead to an implosion of membership numbers. While the Scandi countries maintain high unionisation rates within a nevertheless neoliberal framework.

To answer your question in broad strokes: unions are part of the apparatus for administering capitalism and disciplining or at least structuring labour. They will normalise climbdowns and act as mules for SocDem parties that are well past their prime. This, I agree with. The only thing I would critique is the idea that (in non-Scandi countries, at least) they're relevant enough to have a structurally legitimating position, rather than being half vestigial organ, one quarter extension of HR, and one quarter marginally effective political fundraising tool by the public sector, for the public sector.

No, Anons, this analysis does not mean I "am" a neoliberal, nor am I trying to "convert" you to neoliberalism. All I want is for you to give neoliberalism as fair a hearing as Keynesianism gets, understandiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2883242
That text is not contextually relevant and very outdated.

This is more appropriate:
https://www.international-communist-party.org/English/REPORTS/UnionQue/74ClassUnionsRiseAgain.htm
>1) The trade unions after the Second World War, in all advanced capitalist countries, are ‘tricolour’ trade unions, i.e. organisations that put the defence of workers’ economic conditions and daily lives after the defence of the interests of the national economy, the capitalist state, democracy and social peace between classes. That is, they are unsuitable and inadequate bodies even for the mere defence of the immediate needs of the proletariat. Of these unions, however they are labelled, the proletarians have nothing to defend and nothing to save.

>2) The dynamics of these ‘tricolour’ organisations continue to unfold in the sense of their ever more complete insertion into the gears of the bourgeois state, even in the formal organisational and legal sense. This trajectory of theirs, which will lead them to become even formally mere appendages of the state machine, unfolds to varying degrees in different countries, and is irreversible unless the proletariat’s class struggle is resumed.


>3) Faced with this observation, not of today, but of twenty-five years ago, not based on contingent events, but on a correct Marxist analysis of the capitalist becoming, which today’s events only confirm, the Party does not draw the inference to abandon work in these organisms. In these organisations and outside them, the Party’s task is to put forward to the proletariat the need for the resurgence of class economic associations, i.e. workers’ bodies for the conduct of economic struggles that are free from state and bourgeois influence.

> This resurrection will be the result of the class returning to the terrain of defending at least its most basic economic interests, with the method of class struggle, against the pressure of capital.
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