/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

new INDEP talk
>Talk by Boston College Labor-Time Economy Working Group – Simulating a Labor-Time Socialist Economy

>>2904051
Here is how to pronounce "Initiative demokratische Arbeitszeitrechnung":

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ArrrbytesTSYTE!reshnoong

>>2906098
thanks germanon. I think you can remove the s between Arrrbyte and TSYTE. having it there is a bit like pronouncing the t in hot potato

>>2878630
Such words being thrown around…
Failure…
Far better for society…
Admit you got tired resisting and just accepted porky ideology.

theme song for this thread

I don’t wanna be dead or in jail and my neighbors and coworkers don’t deserve socialism anyway

OP is lying.

Op is a giga

Bait or developmentally challenged.
Call it.

Moved to >>>/siberia/821150.

>>2907293
this. for all of Marx' materialism, there's still oodles of metaphysics in Capital, such as the notion that commodities "embody" labour

>>2907273
You can insist it's not a barrier to entry all you want but since no other non-theocratic ideology insists on it, you're inherently setting yourself up to have narrower appeal and thus handicapping yourself for no reason other than to feel superior.

>>2907293
>You could grind up every machine in the world and not not find one atom of "horse-power"
this is his how you sound like btw

>>2907388
but anon, you can measure the amount of power a motor generates. whereas there is no way in general to measure how much labor or value that motor "embodies". you'd know this if you've read vol III, or if you've looked at the literature on joint production

Retards like you is why 'the pipo' should not be 'put in power'.

>>2906744
> Who is doing the enslavement? Why would an economy run for use and not profit of few individuals and without a state require slavery.
Your own needs and the needs of others in society, it’s a lesser form of slavery than to nature or to private property or money, but is still slavery in the end. As for free association I doubt we’ll ever get to the point where labor specialization isn’t required to maintain and produce the ever increasingly complex infrastructure and technology that makes everything so convenient in the first place. Maybe we can get rid of wages, but I’m much more skeptical about getting rid of “jobs”. Even if the janitor was socially worshipped and compensated twice or four times that of other workers it doesn’t make that work fun or enriching.

>>2906744
>Who is doing the enslavement?
In theory, you can't choose not to work. In history the blame is on the regime and the regime alone and not the theory they claimed to follow.

>>2906937
>Your own needs and the needs of others in society, it’s a lesser form of slavery than to nature or to private property or money, but is still slavery in the end.
No, it's actually the worst because it's mediated (bottlenecked through) by officials and then forced on you. If it was to Nature or some abstract economy, you could use your wit to get an easier deal and there's some explanation that this is how things work anyway. That alone would benefit the collective in many ways. If it's Big Brother telling you what to do, it's Big Brother telling you what to do and he's got a gun and there's nothing you can do to change your job and purpose. There's no describing to how bad that would feel or what you would do to get out of it, rabid is how I would begin.

It's officials and their fear of communist leadership that genocided the sparrows in Maoist China and allowed agricultural Lysenkoism to make the existing famines worse in the USSR.

Even if a communist paradise was the natural end of human history, the idea that violent revolution would lead to it only misled the people away from realising that. You don't have to be a crusader for natural Truths, well… not in this way.

>>2906897
You print money to buy weapons and weapons depreciate like rusty cars but you've got nukes so you can't use them directly yourself.

You sell the weapons to some people but they don't want to use the weapons either because war is destructive and they like their healthcare system very much.

Weapons keep getting sold and re-sold until they're used somewhere out there in the solar system.

Weapons were a necessary evil in history but what if they decided to take over history instead to guarantee their profits?

>>2906744
NTA but no free people would work in factories or mines if they had better options. The free people of the world had to be slaughtered or pushed onto marginal land for the sake of "progress." But in fairness to the commies, theirs might be a more tolerable slavery, if the universal labor camp worked out as they say (but every camp needs guards and a warden).

>>2904812
I heard in CHINA people don't identify as commies unless they're actually in the party. Otherwise they might call themselves commie supporters. I don't know if that's true I heard it from social media but it sounds GOOD so I'll repeat it and say that could apply here also.

Sembra che il fascismo vincerà in Italia. Voglio dire, a questo punto la maggior minaccia del governo Meloni non è neanche uno della sinistra, ma un ex’generale capitalista, razzista e omofobico che vuole che l’Italia sia ancora più schiava all’America ed Israele (ma del resto, nessun politico in Italia può avere una carriera senza viaggiare a Washington DC per dichiarare massima lealtà alla casa Bianca e Tel Aviv). Ovviamente, sto parlando di Roberto Vannacci del “Futuro Nazionale”, che ora ha 5% dei sondaggi. Credo che l’italiani abbiano già capito che votare non serve a nulla, ma credo che Meloni cercherà di allearsi con lui per poter rimanere in potere per lungo sebbene i sondaggi di Meloni non sono le migliori.

>>2857100
Elettori di destra i più cojoni in assoluto. Le proposte di Vannacci sono tutte minestra riscaldata, tutta roba già proposta da salvini e meloni. Paese bollito.

>>2752797
what the fuck is a moffinist

Bumpy

https://unrollnow.com/status/2095933284668576111

"Americans are in a position to kill any Italian politician; they are in a position to kill quite easily the Prime Minister, the Minister of Defense, the Minister of Foreign Affairs. And why? Because the CIA has a capillary control of Italian territory, because the CIA has been among us for decades. If you look at what happened in Venezuela, the CIA managed to conduct that operation—Americans managed to conduct that operation without having any CIA bases in Venezuela. The CIA in Italia knows every single square centimeter of Palazzo Chigi, of Montecitorio, of Palazzo Madama; it knows everything about the lives of our politicians and our ministers. On any Italian minister, the CIA has a dossier that it can release at any moment.
In Italy, American bases ensure that American soldiers have capillary control over Italian territory, because we not only have at least five American bases on our territory and various nuclear warheads, but we also have 120 installations—120 installations on Italian territory that American soldiers have access to. We call them NATO installations; they are radars, shooting ranges, barracks, warehouses. The United States in Italy—look at this scandal that has just come out, Rutte said: '500 aircraft took off from Italy for the war in Iran.' Giorgia Meloni said: 'They are not 500, they are 200,' which is a staggering number in a 40-day war, meaning aircraft took off from Italian airports every single day involved in the war in Iran.
At Camp Darby, near Pisa, the United States has the largest weapons and ammunition warehouse in the world outside of national borders, and weapons from Camp Darby can leave in only two ways: either they leave through the port of Livorno—which is often blocked by dock workers—or they leave through the military airport of Pisa.
And the American bases in Italy—think of the phrase that Giorgia Meloni keeps repeating, she says: 'American bases are in Italy to defend Italians.' It is not true. American bases are in Italy for America's wars. American bases in Italy serve to increase the power projection of the United States, and power projection is the ability of a State to wage war far from its own borders." Prof. Alessandro Orsini

>>2907138
The USA will just pass it’s empire along to someone else like the British did, Israel you’re probably right, especially as it becomes more and more Haredi

>>2877983
>USA is lying about their deaths in this war
The U.S. doesn't lie about combat deaths when they happen, like if a soldier is killed they are reported killed and that is publicly released, but it does lie about casualties (injured) by not volunteering the information usually.

Isn't the entire Middle East gonna get wiped out by global warming? I guess there could be robotic workers pulling out the last of the fossil fuels in 2060 or whatever.

>>2907189
The only habitable parts of the earth will be Patagonia, Siberia, Greenland, Northern Canada, and the crusty Scandinavian mountains

>>2877847
Let's forget years of US and Isreel raping ME and let's blame everything on Iran
because can we do shit against those powerful countries?
no listen we can beat Iran,maybe,probably?

arabs are most pathetic part of the Islamic world. teh fact majoos turned out to be the real islam.

>>2905198
We need a few million more of guys like him.

>>2905198
insane thing to ask someone, he should have battered that journo rat

another L from SAlt

https://www.reddit.com/r/uwa/comments/1w7banm/the_socialist_club_is_strange/

nah. canadians cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons.

Too nationalist

>>2901933
Canada as a protected state died with the British Empire. The US was always going to slowly swallow it if it isnt in a British bloc like the Commonwealth but no one has the initiative to make the Commonwealth actually solid and something to stand up against the Americans

>>2901939
Most Americans would feel nothing if Buffalo, New York was turned into glass

>>2901939
the USA would not allow France or the UK to give Canada nuclear weapons

Secretive' UAE and Swiss-based firms found to be major crude suppliers to Israel, says report
Despite a Turkish embargo against Israel, the majority of the oil shipped by the two companies flows through the Turkish port of Ceyhan. Researchers also identified two subsidiaries of Heritage on the Turkish trade register. While oil giants including BP, Chevron, ExxonMobil and Shell have faced criticism over their role in supplying oil to Israel during its genocide in Gaza, the part played by a shady network of oil traders in the supply chain has received far less scrutiny.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/how-two-secretive-firms-became-major-crude-suppliers-israel

Yemen's Houthis launch first major offensive in four years
Around 129 people have been killed, according to an AFP tally, including 66 government soldiers, 62 Houthi militants, and one civilian, though Al-Araby Al-Jadeed reported that dozens of civilians had been killed and wounded in a Houthi ballistic missile strike on a restaurant in the city of Mokha. The city of Mokha is reported to be a key objective for the Houthi offensive, a key port controlled by the government on the Red Sea, with the Houthis assaulting positions on the Taiz-Mokha road to reach the city.
https://www.newarab.com/news/yemens-houthis-launch-first-major-offensive-four-years

Thousands join Berlin’s Peace Days to support antimilitarism and solidarity
Trade unionists and representatives from DKP branches discussed how to move unions from passivity into active opposition. They laid out the challenges currently faced in their workplaces and turned to a key question facing the movement as militarization accelerates – countering the claim that shifting to a war economy can safeguard jobs and revive Germany’s stagnating economy.
https://breakthroughnews.org/2026/09/01/thousands-join-berlins-peace-days-to-support-antimilitarism-and-solidarity/

Communist Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Starbucks anti-unionization case brought by NLRB narrowed by US appeals court
In a 2-0 decision, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals rejected claims that the coffee chain violated federal labor law when a Wichita, Kansas, store manager and assistant manager told ​employees they closed their hiring portal and reduced hours because of union or ​other protected activities.
https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/starbucks-anti-unionization-case-brought-by-nlrb-narrowed-by-us-appeals-court-2026-09-04/

Ro Khanna Demands End to Trump’s Iran War ‘Before the Midterms’
Earlier this week, Reuters reported that Trump aides were seeking to stop the war from escalating for now to keep it out of the headlines and prevent Republicans from losing even more support before November. But once the votes are cast, they said Trump—who won’t have to deal with concerns about reelection—may ramp up military action.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/khanna-end-war-midterms

US House passes bill to crack down on university boycotts of Israel
The Republican-majority chamber voted 237-169 in favor of the "Protect Economic and Academic Freedom Act," which would have to pass the Senate in order to become law. … U.S. Representative Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, said in a statement before the vote that he opposed the global ​Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) ​movement but would ⁠vote no because he supported Americans' right to free expression. "It is the only way to ensure speech I do ​agree with is equally protected," Nadler said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-house-passes-bill-crack-down-university-boycotts-israel-2026-09-03/

Trump says he will spend up to $500 million of ‘my money’ to help Republicans in midterms
President Donald Trump said he plans to allocate $400 million to $500 million from his political operation to help Republican candidates in the NoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

1067 - Bride of DataRepublican feat. David J. Roth (8/31/26)(Chapo Trap House )
Chapo All-Star David Roth returns for a survey of the right-wing influencers running the government: DataRepublican, MomOfDataRepublican, InfantryDort, all of the stars are here! We also check in on another round of liberal struggle sessions about Hasan, and the deportation of Milo Yiannopoulos by the cowardess Laura Loomer.
https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/1067-bride-of-datarepublican

Gloria Steinem Was the Godmother of Neoliberal Feminism
Gloria Steinem, the establishment’s favorite radical feminist, died on September 2. The mainstream media has gone all out in praising her, with the Wall Street Journal and The New York Times united in their adulation. The Times called her the “personification of the women’s movement” and credited her with helping to usher in “sweeping cultural transformations across virtually every facet of American life, from the boardroom to the courtroom to the bedroom.” They approvingly quote her self-description as an “entrepreneur of social change.” For many people, she is the only radical feminist they can name, eclipsing the extraordinary women who planned and launched the successful women’s liberation movement starting in 1967. Steinem did wield enormous influence. Ms. magazine and the Ms. Foundation for Women, which she cofounded, came to define what was worthy in the feminist project. But to the women’s liberation pioneers she displaced, this meant silencing the radicals and promoting the anodyne. When Steinem described Ms. as “a kind of connective tissue for women all across this country who felt isolated until we came along and let them know they were not alone,” feminist pioneers saw Steinem as taking credit for work already done by the movement. The women’s liberation movement didn’t need Ms. to publicize it. It had already been on the front page of nearly every mass circulation magazine and had produced ten mass-market anthologies by 1971, selling millions of copies. The movement published one hundred small newspapers and journals, including Off Our Backs, It Ain’t Me Babe, and Woman’s World. And it had already won substantial victories by the time Steinem emerged on the scene. Thousands of working-class women were suing employers for sex discPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

I love u based news anon

>>2907130
>Gloria Steinem Was the Godmother of Neoliberal Feminism

I knew she must have been no good if both fox and msnbc were glazing her.