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Why does everyone in leftist circles hate him now?

I remember when he had a whole cult around him in the early 2010s during Occupy and was a huge cheerleader for the Rojava revolution in the years that followed. His book Debt The First 5000 Years was a huge hit (and I mean HUGE, in the sense that you'd see it sold in both anarchist infoshops and mainstream booksellers like Barnes). He was instrumental in rewriting the historical narrative of class formation and the development of money and economic systems. A lot of Marxists didn't like that but they had zero means of debunking his work. When he died in 2020 there was an outpouring of love from leftists all over the world, for an anarchist intellectual who meant so much to people.

But now, I never see Graeber mentioned, ever. The only times I see him or his work brought up is to heavily chastise it, or attack him for his anarchist politics. Tankies hate him but can never prove him wrong. I have to ask why he's become nothing but a footnote in the history of leftist thought, especially when he was so celebrated 15 years ago.
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>>2942037
Graeber was heavily censored when he was alive.

>>2942629
What was censored? Did he have a potty mouth? I fail to understand your point. Are you alluding to a secret doctrine that no publisher dared to print?

>>2942635
He as relentlessly scrutinized for having been proven right. Both capitalists and Marxoids won’t admit this.

>>2943030
lmao graeber was wrong about a ton of shit even on an editorial level, as in he regularly misunderstood or mischaracterized his sources

>>2943031
What sources did he “mischaracterize” and why does that lead to his conclusions being wrong? Elaborate.



 

I am in a Nationalist Organization, but I am so tired of it. Our Previous Local Branch Leader has left temporarly and now has family affairs, so we are stuck with a Reactionary Capitalist Petit Bourzoa, who is nothing like a proper Third Positionist ought to be. He doesn't care about the Organizations Ideology or Ideals, isn't up to date with what the rest of the Branches are Doing, Is a complete Hedonist and Gangsterist, He is lazy and passes responsibillity to others, including me, he takes bad decisions and even took a lighter from me. I don't even know he got this position. I am the most active in my branch and have even done theory lectures (which the leadership now wants to take it away because "nobody is going to read the books"), and have been thrice as much time as him in it. We got a new temporary branch leader, who I have better relations with and he is far better, but because of Personal Affairs he didn't have time, so this Degen took over. The only reason He got it I suspect, whilst I have been sidelined by the Organization leadership again and again, is because I am an Autist with no Great Facial Hair, with a quite annoying voice, a thin posture, are too theoretical (even though I am the one suggesting most actions, which then get sidelined by leadership) and come from a Leftist Family. Not to mention, I have no chance with the organization's Women. I feel so sad, seeing my Local University Branch of Leftists (with simillar views to that of my parents) organizing, making speeches, doing activism and syndical work, probably reading theory and also getting into fights with ANTIFA and Tankie types (i.e. the stuff I want to do, under my nationalist syndicalist and communtarian worldview). They all seem very friendly, instead of the 90IQ normalfags I am stuck with. Plus, the Girls are very Friendly and Nice and Pretty, and I could probably get one as my girlfriend. And I would probably be one of the most masculine members of my local branch, instead of being viewed as a weird alien creature which everyone laughs at behind the scenes. They would probably be compassionate about me being an Autist, instead of making fun of me for being Weird. And my activism would probably be rewarded, instead of being seen as me being a follower. My Parents would also be proud of me, instead of thinking I am an idiotic fascist loser. I could also publically critisize all the Cuckservatives, Ancoms, and MLs that plague my university. I can def Chameleon my way over tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Hitler used antisemitism to protect the non-Jewish capitalist of their greed, exploitation and crimes. He was a ploy by the bourgeoisie to prevent the abolishion of capitalism and propagated to the working class that the real solution, socialism, is jewish.

Both greed and exploitation are fundamental to capitalism and isn't exclusive to jewish capitalist. Jewish elites are just part of the elite.

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>He doesn't care about the Organizations Ideology or Ideals
Have you considered that "ideology" is just esoteric bullshit?
This is a general issue people have – whether its red or blue, left or right, etc. It's still capital – it's still the same mode of production; the same class structure. In fact, this is why I criticise Communists, since what they call Communism is just state capitalism. Sectarianism is a privilige of pedantry, where the letter subsumes the spirit of the law.
>I don't even know he got this position
Because in this world, it's about who you know, not what you know.
Isn't it blackpilling to realise that your labours count for nothing?
>nobody is going to read the books
But this is is true. Even academics don't really read books.
Those of us who actually read books are fools who care too much.
>I am an Autist with no Great Facial Hair, with a quite annoying voice, a thin posture, are too theoretical
You were destined to be an erômenos for an erastês
>biological leftist
Some leftists have good physiognomy
>a Biological Leftist but with a Mind of a Nationalist
Check out 1dime radio, who is leftist nationalist:
https://youtube.com/@1dimeradio

>>2942854
I speak with the leader far more than him. I think our previous leader only choose him because they look simillar. Even doe he said that I would eventually take over the branch. IDK. Might stop blackpilling and do Coup of him.

>>2942751
"Muh people" is nothing. A small capitalist of "your country" would and will wage enslave you without mercy.

Why do you want a leader? This isn't NEETzschean as fuck. See if the discourse please you around here or not, you fucking cuck.



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So say a Marxist-Leninist economy has all of the stuff important to the state nationalized and operating under scientific planning, it tries to give the basic needs of life like employment and housing to everyone as possible, but there's additionally a private sector for commodity circulation because trying to micromanage every small business to the smallest detail is silly in general. The private sector is heavily regulated to prevent them from subverting the rest of society, and also taxed to help pay for the rest of society.

So what exactly is bad about this generally speaking? Especially on a neoliberal Earth where the international elite, outside of china, can flee and go anywhere and has no accountability? The strategy of dengist economics has produced the same results that people like Mao and Stalin wanted out of their countries like mass industrialization, electrification, and prosperity but at the same time holding their own societal elites accountable.
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>>2940900
its because most of these guys are former bernie supporters that got burned one too many times, they can't change the slavish liberal mentality so they just change the subject of which they project their slavish liberal mentality onto. before it was an old zionist social democrat that sold out most of his principles by the late 90s and now its an old social democratic state that was a key instrument to destroying most of the socialist bloc and was a vital contributor to starving out the DPRK and obstructing their atomic program

>>2942415
Agriculture shouldn't just be for subsistence; it should also be for producing for others. In that sense, the market is more practical and easier. Although, of course, you can practice council communism and that people decide collectively what to produce, but doing that is much more complicated than saying "produce more and sell it"

>>2865198
It invites the reconstitution of the capital class to make number go up. Because the party is the one directing these capitalists at first, there will inevitably grow a tight bond between the party and capital as capitalists promise favours to meet political objectives in exchange for concessions to themselves and their own wealth accumulation. It will not happen overnight, but Dengism ultimately will lead to the same place as social democracy due to the delusion that you can keep capitalists around and control them - the inherent wealth accumulation that capitalism affords the bourgeoisie means they can inevitably financially incentivise the political class to work for them rather than the other way around, or even to integrate into the political class themselves (already happens in China).

>>2942485
right now the DPRK is allied to the PRC… are they slavish too?

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>>2942485
>They're le berniebros!!!
Not everyone is american yanqui swine

>China was starving DPRK!!

Literally the DPRK doesn't give a single fuck, so why should I?



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WILLKOMENSKULTUR IST VORBEI edition

>“The age of Willkommenskultur is over, the era of mass deportations has begun,” commented the Sweden Democrats party, whose MEP Charlie Weimers played a central role as ECR’s shadow rapporteur.

>In a rare show of unity on the European Right, the directive was adopted not only by the national conservative groups (PfE, ECR, and ESN) but also the EPP, which votes together with the leftist parties in the vast majority of cases.
>Most importantly, the new law will introduce a mutual recognition and enforcement obligation between member states regarding deportation orders, meaning migrants cannot circumvent return decisions by moving to a different EU country and restarting the process. A return order in one country will legally count as a valid order in all of them.
>Another important point is the introduction of third-country return hubs, making it possible for member states to externalize return procedures by sending migrants to secure facilities outside EU territory to wait for the end of the process, ensuring they won’t escape implementation once the paperwork’s done.

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>>2934636
Rightoids coping so hard that the riots are chuds

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First image translated because the x translation isn't on for some reason.

>While the Albanian government, led by Edi Rama (@ediramaal), is strengthening its ties with Israel, trends on the streets should be a cause for concern for Jerusalem. During anti-government protests in Tirana, a demonstrator was asked why he was waving a UÇK (Kosovo Liberation Army) flag; he replied, "Because they are fighting against Israel" (it would be worth investigating who is funding these protests). Meanwhile, in the city of Vlorë—a popular destination for Israeli travelers—a court has halted the construction of a Jewish heritage museum, a project spearheaded by Rama. 🇮🇱🇦🇱

I feel like you guys could enjoy reading this thread https://lemmygrad.ml/post/13066439

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What's going on in Poland



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Dockworkers and activists block ports across the world in protest against war, genocide and the arms trade
Strike organisers the No Harbour for Genocide campaign, alongside dockworkers’ unions in France, Italy, Greece, Spain, Turkey, Morocco and Cyprus, described today’s events as the largest co-ordinated port action ever held. “For one day, 52,000 containers stand idle, carrying $2.8 billion (£2bn) worth of goods, before the next day’s backlog, the work stoppages and the general strike in Italy are counted,” No Harbour for Genocide campaign said in an Instagram post today.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/dockworkers-and-activists-block-ports-across-world-protest-against-war-genocide-and-arms

Elbit factory targeted in Palestine Action raid was set to deliver 'immediate shipment of drones' to Israel, court hears
Five defendants - Qesser Zuhrah, 21, Zahra Farooque, 26, Kamran Ahmed, 29, Heba Muraisi, 31, and Liam Mullany, 34 - are facing charges of criminal damage and violent disorder at Woolwich Crown Court in connection with the break-in at an Elbit Systems factory in Filton, near Bristol, on 6 August 2024. Giving evidence this week, Zuhrah, who said she helped coordinate the action, told jurors that she had first heard of the Filton site when others in the group raised concerns "about an immediate shipment of weapons" set to leave the factory and that, as a result, the action had been "speedtracked".
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/elbit-factory-targeted-palestine-action-raid-was-set-deliver-immediate-shipment-drones-israel

Germany and France brace for protests on Halloween weekend
Police plan to deploy thousands of additional officers across the country. Some luxury jewellery shops and clothing stores have boarded up windows to protect against potential looting or violence. Protests in Germany are led by a group dubbed “GenZ regelt!”, which translates to “Gen Z has got this!”. The German protest movement’s complaints include the high cost of living, poorly maintained schools, gPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/lyor-cohen-the-shady-israeli-executive-running-youtube-music-the-global-hip-hop-industry/291276/
1000% percent believe the conspiracy that def jam has their artists killed to own their masters and make more money off their work

Trump appointee Bill Pulte’s housing agency obstructed watchdog, report says
A top US housing regulator led by Trump appointee Bill Pulte refused to provide records to its internal watchdog, obstructing congressionally mandated reviews of its oversight of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and other housing lenders, according to a report reviewed by Reuters on Friday.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/trump-appointee-bill-pultes-housing-agency-obstructed-watchdog-report-says-2026-10-30/

Democratic lawmakers demand ICE data on detainee miscarriages
Government documents obtained by the Guardian found that ICE had placed more pregnant immigrants in detention last fall and winter than at any time over the previous year. The agency recorded 18 miscarriages during the first nine months of the Trump administration, the documents found, but the agency has no data on miscarriages after 3 October 2025.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/oct/30/democrats-miscarriages-ice-detainees

Justice Department requests separating Alaska ballots that rank Dan J. Sullivan in Senate race
Associate Attorney General Stanley Woodward wrote in a court filing that state officials should “preserve and segregate all ballots ranking Daniel J. Sullivan for the purposes of investigating whether such ranking was the product of voter confusion, should such an investigation become necessary.” “These modest precautionary measures will be impossible after Election Day, so there is good cause for expedited consideration,” he added.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/doj-requests-separating-alaska-ballots-rank-dan-j-sullivan-senate-race-rcna606646

How Mamdani canceled ‘Cop City’
That plan dates back to 2017, when then-Mayor Bill de Blasio announced the city would budget $100 million to build a state-of-the-art correction academy. And in 2021, monthPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

It’s time for the left to stand up to Burnham
Far from offering real hope to working people it opens up the prospect of increasing immiseration in the years to come. Far from breaking with the bond market veto over economic policy, it was designed to appease the speculators. Since Andy Burnham’s election many people in the labour movement have argued to suspend judgement on his intentions, to “give him a chance.” That is understandable – Burnham appears the last chance of a Labour Party morally and politically eviscerated by Keir Starmer, and the only thing standing between Britain and a hard-right authoritarian and racist government. But such goodwill cannot be extended indefinitely. John Healey’s measures – or striking lack of them – mark the moment when conclusions must start to be drawn.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/its-time-left-stand-burnham

The Andreas Malm Ban Shows How to Blow Up a Democracy
The banning of Malm’s ETA comes only four months after Hasan Piker and Cenk Uygur, two American leftwing political commentators, had their ETAs cancelled shortly before scheduled appearances at SXSW London and the Oxford Union. The then-Keir Starmer government similarly invoked a ‘public good’ argument. What’s more, it was only this month that it was announced that celebrated author Sally Rooney would no longer be able to sell books in the UK, due to her statements of support for proscribed group Palestine Action. While the Home Office does its seeming best to avoid offering specific public explanations for why certain public figures are being barred from entering the UK, you can guarantee that there will be a briefing operation afoot. When Piker and Uygur had their ETAs withdrawn, the media (rather than rallying around the cause of free expression, on which our livelihoods depend) preferred instead to jaw-jaw about whether the two men were antisemitic. I do not doubt that, over the course of today, Malm’s public comments about the legally enshrined right of Palestinians to resist Israeli occupation will find their way into journalist’s briefing notes.
https://novaramedia.com/2026/10/30/the-andreas-malm-ban-shows-how-to-blow-up-Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



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Is anime bourgeois? Like fumos, figures and so on. Weeb consumerism is outrageous even compared to others.
meow. meow. meow. meow. meow.




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Brazilian elections are sunday.
Apparently the race is neck and neck. Im not Brazilian, so can any on leftypol redpill me on who is going to win.

body was too short
body was too short
booty shorts
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>>2941512
you can tell this was made using chatgpt

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>>2941498
>FLAVIO BOLSONARO HAS DECLARED HIMSELF PRESIDENT IN EXILE
should have just did another failed fat ass coup then commit seppuku

>>2941512
>Charles de Gaulle led Free France from London, sentenced to death by the Vichy regime, and he returned to liberate his country.

>>2941498
NEW GUAIDO JOKE JUST DROPPED

Winning hearts and minds.



 

El Salvador to send over 2,000 soldiers to Haiti for rescue while elections postponed
El Salvador will send over 2,000 soldiers to Haiti to rescue missing personnel and support ​anti-gang security operations, its foreign ministry said on Wednesday, while Haiti's electoral council ‌postponed planned presidential elections to next year. The Caribbean's most populous nation has not held elections since 2016 and its last president was assassinated in 2021. Successive transitional leaders have postponed a vote ​citing insecurity as armed criminal organizations expand their territories.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/haiti-postpones-first-presidential-election-decade-july-2027-2026-10-29/

Venezuelan Gov’t Demands Return of UK-Held Gold, Eyes Production Increase
The freeze on the reserves, currently valued at around US $4 billion, dates back to the United Kingdom’s refusal to recognize Nicolás Maduro’s 2018 reelection. A year later, opposition leader Juan Guaidó formally asked British authorities to prevent the Venezuelan government from accessing the gold. During a cabinet meeting on Wednesday, Rodríguez described the ongoing freeze as a theft.
https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/venezuelan-govt-demands-return-of-uk-held-gold-eyes-production-increase/

Carney government announces plans to privatize major Canadian airports
At the Canada Investment Summit held in Toronto last month, Prime Minister Mark Carney unveiled plans to open up Canada’s four largest airports to private investors. The government’s goal is to free up “the capital that is tied up in those airports” so it can be “redeployed potentially in other ventures that will grow our economy.”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/10/29/hwen-o29.html

Netanyahu claims Palestinians ‘stole’ elections as Qatar slams 'ridiculous and dangerous' allegations
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I think im gonna make a thread about the ongoing neo-colonialism in haiti

US senator briefed on Trump's plans to restart Iran war says proposal is 'insane'
Murphy, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations and Appropriations committees, made the comments after American media reported on Wednesday that the US warned several Gulf Arab countries to be prepared for a short, intense military offensive against Iran after the US midterm elections on 3 November. The warning sent by diplomatic and military channels is the latest indication that the US and Israel are preparing to launch another round of attacks against Iran, in an effort to weaken Tehran and force it to negotiations, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-senator-briefed-trump-plan-restart-war-iran-says-proposal-insane

Democratic lawmakers decry Osha’s push to roll back worker respiratory protections
Under the proposed rules, employers would face fewer requirements to provide workers with respirators masks when working with substances including “lead, asbestos, formaldehyde and inorganic arsenic, among other chemicals”, the lawmakers wrote in a letter to the Osha assistant secretary, David Keeling, a former UPS and Amazon executive.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/oct/29/warren-lawmakers-osha-worker-respiratory-protection

Trump administration attempts to take down leak of ICE personnel data
The letter accused FlokiNET of violating its terms of service by publishing a “stolen” employee dataset and asked it to “remove or disable” the information. “The content is live and places more than 40,000 identifiable individuals at risk of harassment, stalking, and physical harm,” the letter said. FlokiNET said the letter concerned one domain, icepi.cx, which has compiled information about employees from a range of DHS agencies, including Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP).
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“Mediacide”: Francesca Albanese on Israel’s War on Journalism
UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese’s new report argues that the destruction of truth has become integral to the destruction of the Palestinian people. The report, “Truth Under the Rubble: Media in the Time of Genocide,” documents the killing of nearly 300 journalists and media workers in Gaza since October 2023, Israeli state censorship and incitement, and the role of Western media and digital platforms in reproducing Israeli narratives. Drop Site’s Sharif Abdel Kouddous spoke with Albanese, an Italian international lawyer who has served as the UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories since 2022. They discuss what she calls “mediacide,” Israel’s killing of journalists including Drop Site contributor Hossam Shabat, incitement on Israeli TV, bias in Western coverage, and the New York Times’ response to her report. Albanese has faced sustained backlash for her work. When she presented the report to the UN General Assembly on Monday, the Israeli and US representatives called her a “liar,” a “fraud,” and a “lunatic,” and the chair asked speakers to focus on the report’s contents. The US, Israel, and several European governments opposed her reappointment last year. Soon afterward, Secretary of State Marco Rubio imposed economic and travel sanctions on her, citing her efforts to push the International Criminal Court to investigate US and Israeli officials and companies. Albanese, who is unpaid in her UN role, says the sanctions have cut her off from banking, and that her US-citizen daughter could commit a felony simply by having financial dealings with her. Her family is now suing the Trump administration.
Read the full UN report: https://docs.un.org/A/81/249
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/mediacide-francesca-albanese-on-israels

Russia is selling Africa dependence disguised as partnership
This week, Moscow will host the third Russia-Africa summit, bringing together African leaders as President Vladimir Putin seeks to expand Russia’s economic, military and political reach across the continent. Yet Russia’s growing influence has done far more to advance Moscow’s interests and protect alPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2942047
what's the deal with haiti? clearly nobody's actually interested in helping the population so what are they getting out of it? in ukraine they can wear russia down and test high tech western weapons but what does haiti offer?

>>2942083

I think is for propaganda. Like, being from South America, I have seen gang violence all my life, and as the economy is getting worse in most countries around here (due to corrupted governments, I would say), people are getting more and more frustrated with the suffering of the day to day life, and as the majority of people lack proper education to pinpoint the actual causes and solutions to their problems (at least here in Brazil), people tend to be less sympathetic towards criminals, who also harm them.

So, the discourse of "a good criminal is a dead criminal" grows in popularity, especially when it was proven so effective in El Salvador (ethics and legality aside, it worked for what they intended).

Now, with so many governments leaning towards that approach here in south america, and some being in a alliance with the USA, and also financed/explored, this is a unique opportunity for Bukele to show that his approach could work outside El Salvador, making it even more popular, which would also help stablish far right leaders, who often do what USA says



 

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>>2942473
To simplify everything, please read this from Marx:
<Whence, then, arises the enigmatical character of the product of labour, so soon as it assumes the form of commodities? Clearly from this form itself. […] the Fetishism which attaches itself to the products of labour, so soon as they are produced as commodities
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm
The form of commodities itself is therefore the fetish.
There is nothing more to conclude. You can only deny reality.

>>2942476
The commodity form is not a fetish you dunce, you misapellate the term because you fundamentally do not understand it. There are objective social forces in this world you will never understand until you actually contend with materialism, mark my words.

As to the rest, consider it unread. It's a Friday, I'm drinking. Ta ta!

>>2942479
>There are objective social forces in this world
Precisely – and these are fetishised into the form of commodities.
The fetishism of labour into the form of value is its mystification.
Value is an inversion of human relations into object relations.
It is a misrecognition of social production; an indirect expression.
The theory of Communism therefore is to directly express labour.
The value form is abolished because the fetish-object is abolished, etc.
>It's a Friday, I'm drinking. Ta ta!
Should I consider this a fifth time you have claimed to stop replying?

>>2942483
i'm actually not sure you understand what "fetishism" means in this context

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>>2942484
What do you feel I misunderstand?
Fetishism in this context is commodification; the inversion of social relations between men into social relations between things, by the spectre of "value"; a phantom-like objectivity which stamps products with its mark; namely, social labour, indirectly received in its quantity. The fetishism (e.g. superstition) is thus an attribution of commodities possessing a thing called "value" as an intrinsic property. Value is an abstraction, which by internal dialectical development, conceives the capital relation, and so on, where mystification is most intense (e.g. in the "trinity formula" of the "prices of production"). Communism thus seeks to abolish fetishism by abolishing the form of value (e.g. the commodification of production, thereby directly representing labour):
<The life-process of society, which is based on the process of material production, does not strip off its mystical veil until it is treated as production by freely associated men, and is consciously regulated by them in accordance with a settled plan
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm
Thus, the "settled plan" (e.g. central plan) is the rational form in which social production proceeds, without internal contradictions of value (e.g. the precedence of exchange-value in capitalist production leads to general crises – which as we see today, even threaten civilisation). Fetishism is itself a primary irrationality on which all other irrationality proceeds. The moderns are more superstitious than the ancients, etc.
<The mode of production in which the product takes the form of a commodity […] makes its appearance at an early date in history […] its Fetish character is comparatively easy to be seen through. But when we come to more concrete forms, even this appearance of simplicity vanishes […] superstition
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm
<nowhere with the Romans do we find that the right of private property was mystified as in the case of the Germans
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Do you guys genuinely criticize Social Democracy? Because to me it doesn't seem like you people understand why Social Democracy is bad.

When the US and Europe adopted social democratic policies in the past, it led to genuine improvement in the standard of living of workers. It also led to the complete collapse of revollutionary communism, and even the communist parties themselves became SocDem in all but their name.

And then what happened? Everyone lived happily ever after? No, obviously when the RoP started hurting, all that was clawed back. And the bigger and more important criticism is that we don't want to put a bandaid on capitalism in the first place, we want to abolish capitalism entirely.

That's why communists of the past criticized social democracy. It was not an easy thing to criticize. We had to actively criticize people who were making genuine improvements to worker's lives, and that made real communism unpopular.

And now we are in 2026 with a minor resurgence in social democracy. People post Lassalle memes, but what I want to know is what are your honest thoughts?

Do you really have the guts to criticize social democrats at a time when the capitalist class is almost universally hated? Do you have the principles and persistence to explain why social democracy is bad and are you capable of explaining to the workers what communism is actually about?

Just want to hear your honest thoughts.
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>>2942460
>So you see, phrenology is not the baseless art which Hegel imagined.
I said it before and will say it again, if Marx was alive today he would be a 4chan regular and a theorylet.

>>2942464
>Lassalle said he should just prostitute out his daughter if he wanted money so bad
Ok that's faggy on Lasalle's part. What's with these jewish lawyers and cuckoldry?

Social Democracy offers a decent living standard for the working class and a good environment for socialists & communists to dwell and develop. Thus it's preferable to all other forms of class society and bourgeois rule. Real Social Democrats are reformists and cling to bourgeois society, but at least they aren't anti-communists.
SPD, PS, Labour and the like aren't Social Democrats though, despite the name. They're far-right neoliberals and their political program is to undo everything what the OG Socdems achieved in terms of worker's rights.

>You need to fuck the workers so hard that they'll start a revolution!!!
No, fuck you. That’s not how it works + I don't want to suffer even more.

>>2942481
>I don't wanna be exploited!
Sorry, the bourgeois surplus expropriation will continue.



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