/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2291678
ive seen your sinophobic anti-communist posts. you are a liberal who should be perma banned. poor people actually support trump as well as rich.

>>2291763
>ive seen your sinophobic anti-communist posts. you are a liberal who should be perma banned.
Which is why you can't link to a single post to prove that, so I guess your faggot ass is shit out of luck.
>poor people actually support trump as well as rich.
Poor people support no one and either do not or cannot vote or do any sort of political action. The universal condition of the poor under liberal democracy is one of apathy. Instead of conceding to that fact, you are hell-bent on portraying poor people as nazis, because that's your wish, your agenda and your politics.

>call themselves redneck
well there you go for every surburban wigga there's also a surburbanite larping as there idea of what a redneck is. mfers deadass dressed in denim head to too with carhartt and cowboys hats to go work at there dads small business lol. Both are just putting on a costume of cultural signifiers they picked up from pop culture in a vapid attempt at finding something resembling personality or personal identity. Wigga, fake redneck or hottopic emo are basically the 3 premade personality types available to surburboids w/o any personality or culture of there own. If someone is basing there style and mannerisms off starter pack memes and aesthetics I think it makes sense they would vote for the guy who is all vibes and aesthetics with zero fucking substance(just like them)

I thought that avatarfagging was banned?

>>2291536
A few things
<extreme levels of propaganda
>reactionary petty bourg that call themselves "workers"
<opposition being incompetent and not pro-worker enough
>religion

>>2290037
Nah, you still subscribe to bourgeois morality in which "lowly" emotions such as envy are seen as distasteful, thus you try to distance yourself by claiming a scientific detachment.

In the class war, all weapons and tools are good. Yes, I envy the the bourgeoisie's ability to perform unalienated labor. At the same time, I want not just that, but also not to be on the leash of capital like they are.

>>2290343
the remnants of the bourgeoisie will be the dalits of lower stage communism, and under full communism society will change to such a degree that all speculation is pointless

and i'm ok with that

>>2291703
>never brought up morality or its social context in the post
kys retarded moralist

>>2290343
>"In order to create a stable societal system and some cohesion between its members, some people will need to be part of an underclass, some people will need to be reviled by all the other members of such society, a society always have its internal enemies. Look at the Dalits, they are even forbidden to drink clean water. You, who want to improve humanity with a new cohesive system, is that truly what you want?"
>This is my interpretation of it, and I'm not pretending it's perfect. I'm not even saying it's very deep, or that it's a transhistorical truth and therefore a reason to abandon any attempt at transforming society.
>However, it still gave me food for thought, because thinking about it, I can't think of a modern society which don't or didn't have some form of Dalits. I think it's for such passages that some anarchists found inspiration in Nietzsche while rejecting its reactionary aspects too.
You have to basically not be a marxist, or horribly misunderstand marxism in order for any of this to come off as anything but meaningless idealistic drivel.
No class analysis, no materialism, no mention of modes of production, just "uhhh… you have to have an underclass for a stable society" ← unsobstantiated assertion out the ass.

Btw, Nietzsche's answer to "is that truly what you want?" is "Yes, obviously. Now stop being a feckless moralfagging liberal and embrace mastery". Stupid liberals look at his critiques of morality, reason, capital, etc., and go "woah… so deep… what do we do about this..? much to ponder…", ignoring the parts where these critiques are IN SERVICE of an answer he already has in mind: intelligently organized slave society.

Nietzsche did have a system. His system was run of the mill class society.
He talks a bunch of shit, but these two passages give it away pretty much.
"Masters shouldn't fight each other, and slaves shouldn't be abused to such an extent that they revolt". That's basically liberalism, no?
Guy was basically an edgy liberal who wanted to warn other liberals that moralfaggotry will lead them to lose the ruling position, and that to avoid such a fate they must become super edgy slave master uppermenschen

>>2266495
>socialism
>free healthcare and education
Not what socialism is.
>>2270011
Not a fan of maoists but it's insanely difficult for maoists to do all that considering they're busy either on the run from the government (philippines and india) or doing sectarian autism (nepal).

India is not a friend.
>Indian Security Forces Massacre Burmese Resistance Functionaries

>The torture and killing of 10 rebels at Chandel near the India-Myanmar border in Manipur has sent shockwaves through Myanmar’s resistance groups.
https://thediplomat.com/2025/05/indian-security-forces-massacre-burmese-resistance-functionaries/

This year Labour Day Rally was rescheduled to 25/05/25, as May 1st was during the campaigning period. So it is somewhat regrettable that there was a significant decrease in participants and media personnel this year. I guess the election tapped out a lot of people's enthusiasm for politics and people are checking out.

Still it is interesting to see members from almost all the opposition parties, even the "siao lang" ones. In fact that fucking meme jokester guy came to the event. At the very least, I know he isn't a clout chaser. I will keep in mind to remember the people who did came since it does show their sincerity.

The succdem party had the most presence here but the real opposition party really invested in this event is the SDP, who lately embraced a huge left wing shift. Their star youth member, who is also the owner of a left wing media platform is one of the speaker that night. SDP youth wing also has their own booth, trying to recuit young people that come to these events and get them to sign their electoral reform petition. Their leader even announce a consumer coop with his cafe as a starting point. Altogether i find this party's moves to be overtly ambitious and grandiose, in stark contrast to the succdem party's more cautious and arduous attempts to build a party machinery designed to win elections.

Already the succdem party members are rather resistant to setting up their own booth, assuming their significant presence here is implicit endorsement. I do suspect divisions within the party and where the fault line lies, but still the party is not as radical in its posturing than its manifesto.

Speaking of which there booths gauging the parties' policies effectiveness. Interestingly it only has PAP and WP, implicitly showing that we are in a two party state lol. I did ask what can WP do better in policy and got some feedback over certain redistribution measures but not any structural changes to fight inequality. Well at least we are the best among the parties.

Last year I mentioned that the sex work organization was agnostic on whether sex work is work. But this time they are advocating overtly that sex work is work. I guess their groundwork is still helping sex workers with welfare and stuff, but now it seems they are truly invested in advocating for it. Artists has also formed a collective too and offered their paintings as decorations.

The speeches this year was rather underwhelming as moPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2285465
Sounds like fun, I couldn't be there since I was down with the flu after doing a weekend night shift at my job.
>Their leader even announce a consumer coop with his cafe as a starting point
Pls no, I've had enough with all these tiny, air-conditioned, corner cafes selling their overpriced items that never seem to last more than a few years at a time. Seriously no, if I had to come up with a business idea for workers, it needs to be something on the lower end, I had an idea ages ago for a "Complain King" bar, it's mostly like a normal bar, but there's a stage with a mic where anyone who has had a bad day at work (or some horror boss story) gets to help radicalise everyone else by complaining loudly about what happened. The trouble is that I'm really not a drinking person and after my experiences handling drunk people in the police and social services, I'm really not into alcohol of any sort.

Also, since the little india riots there are a lot of restrictions on the sale of alcohol, so its been a dead end idea since.

>>2291426
Reply to me you pedophile zionist liberal commie tr­oon blackie.

the fuck is going on in my thread

>>2291735
This has always been my thread.

>entrepreneurship is super shunned even though it's the fastest way to get rich
Not the fastest nor even the most efficient way to get rich, lolitard. Inheritance, parasitism and outright robbery are even faster than honest work to the point you will need a police state to enforce your lolitardation, lolitard.
>You're using crypto to escape bank cabals? Bad, bad crypto bro.
Yes, entrepreneurship is scam artistry and confidence trickery. I am glad the lolitard comes out to admit this.
>10x your productivity
>with AI
To be productive, you need to produce things. LLMs do not produce anything, nor do entrepreneurs or any sort produce anything, just derive.
>corporations rabidly pour money into AI research without any threat of getting cancelled
Rich people pour money into abjectly fucktarded shit due to trendfaggotry all the time. Artificial zero intelligence processes which 'AI' software is based on are intelligence for retards like you, of course, because you are a retard with a single-digit autism score. You are a pebble, intellectually speaking, and you demonstrate that perfectly with this thread.

Can you fucking uyghurs stop lying for one fucking OP?

>>2290347
First of all, we have no choice but to participate
Second, starting a business is NOT the fastest way to get rich at all wtf that's scams, grifts and succesfully playing the crypto/stock roullette
Third, refusing to use AI is laughable and lefties who cry about it can cry all they want it's not going anywhere. I'd go as far to say that they are pseudo-reactionary
Fourth, collective worker ownership is a socialist way to run a business in capitalist system
>>2290749
Is post serious?

>>2291817
>This article is a good summary.
It doesn't really talk about historic evidence just contemporary and modern. I don't really think we can get insight from modern hunter gatherers for two reasons, first that they have been influenced by the modern world, and second that its a selection bias and not necessarily representative of how societies were formed when that was the economic mode for all of humanity.

That author is basically making a biological determinist argument about human nature. In his longer article he references he is talking about chimpanzees, but again skips the 250,000 year gap where anatomically modern humans existed but not written history, just assuming that because chimpanzees are a certain way that humans are too.

That also doesn't consider that chimps are under the same pressures as hunter gatherers because of contact with modernity. This doesn't even have to be physical contact but a result of climate change or being forced into particular ecologic zones that are unprofitable to develop, where social arrangements might be different in different conditions. As one anon suggested matriarchy might rise from abundance. I also dont think modern hunter gatherers who almost universally perform some kind of cultivation whether that is livestock or crops, even if they are not necessarily sedentary farmers, is the same thing as what prehistoric humans might have been. If there is evidence I would like to know.

I would really expect a long listing and discussion of archaeological evidence that supports these arguments with numerous examples ranging from 12,000-250,000 years old. Obviously someone can't prove a negative but such an exhaustive list with no matriarchies would be strong evidence.

At then at the end of the second article he includes a chart as evidence to support his hypothesis that patriarchy is a biologically determined trait of humans, showing that chimpanzees are violent. Interestingly it also includes bonobos, which actually ties into the OP. Except the bonobos have zero killings per year, compared the the chimpanzees. But humans are equally* genetically distinct from chimpanzees as we are to bonobos. I dont see how this is any less speculative and it kinda sounds like evopsych.

>>2291864
The author's ideology is not why I linked the article, rather the summary of the anthropological consensus is why I linked it. Of course I don't believe in biological determinism, it's reductionist, fails to account for the fact that the environment works "in tandem" with biology, that species literally change by their material circumstances.

The chimpanzee thing is redundant. As a communist, I believe we share similarities with chimpanzees relative to bonobos due to material factors, not genetics.
<Bonobos and chimpanzees are sister species that are very closely related, having diverged from a common ancestor relatively recently, around 1 to 2 million years ago. This divergence is believed to be linked to the formation of the Congo River, which acted as a geographic barrier, and the subsequent evolution of the two species in different environments.

I have not read the second article. Again, as a communist, I'm really not interested in the author's ideology.

"There's no proof that matriarchies didn't exist at some point" is the same argument as "there's no proof God isn't real".

>>2291875
Well if we are considering that the idea that prehistoric humans were matriarchal, the presumed conditions are of abundance, and that there is some form of "primitive" communism, wouldn't we essentially be saying that it was an-archic but matrianarchic rather than matriarchic. I think this kind of flattens the difference between matrilineal and matriarchic, making it either a mistake in word choice from Engels or a semantic argument. Unless you think the content of his work meant he was talking about a class system with women on top?

Do bonobos even have "leadership"? How would we know. Maybe they are just matrilocal. Can we consider animals to have class systems?

>>2291875
>material factors, not genetics.
like material conditions or ?
The author actually agrees, he essentially says that the violence is created by material conditions, and that it is low or negligible in areas with less human encroachment, but also that genetic sex differences determine humans to be patriarchal, and links this to chimpanzees, saying that patriarchy is a mating strategy and violence is relative to the availability of resources. Hes kind of providing compatibility with Engels in a way, except to say that some amount of conflict is inevitable human nature is to chimp out, but not be a bonobo, for some reason.

If we take a multilineal evolutionary approach instead we end up actually closer to Marx, with communism not being an inevitable outcome of a necessary progression to higher forms but historically dependent on the industrial revolution and a workers revolution, on material conditions. I would hope that Engels point was to echo Marx with a concrete example using an analogy common in academic circles of his time, and not attempting to predict the future with a secret formula that is dependent on the veracity of a particular claim.

>>2291817
>women manage household affairs (for example finances). Common in many countries, as well as obviously single-mother households. It can exist in patriarchy.
Matrifocal, yes thats better than matrianarchic. I couldn't think of a word but this definition is much narrower than what other places tell me. It can exist in patriarchy, but it can also exist without it. And matrifocality, matriliny and matrilocality can also be tied together.

>Anthropologists have begun to use the term matrifocality. There is some debate concerning the terminological delineation between matrifocality and matriarchy. Matrifocal societies are those in which women, especially mothers, occupy a central position. Anthropologist R. T. Smith refers to matrifocality as the kinship structure of a social system whereby the mothers assume structural prominence. The term does not necessarily imply domination by women or mothers.

Wouldn't that be what is being described? And you could still have male violence without patriarchy. Consider conditions of abundance when violence is shunned and the society is matrifocal, matrilineal, and matrilocal, what would we have?

guys, who is going to win the polish election?

>>2291756
Alright do your thing, I usually never end up interacting with you because you never have anything interesting to say. This is a one-off. I usually see your stupid posts and then it ends there.

>>2291759
>guys, who is going to win the polish election?
Your mother.

>>2291760
Well I'm grateful that someone knows the meme I'm referencing, I'd have looked silly otherwise

>>2291765
>>2291765
>>2291765
>>2291765
>>2291765

New thread.

>>2291416
you're on drugs

Landlords

>>2291416
I already forgot about Brian Thompson though, just like I will again in 10 minutes.

Anyway, I'm off to my distractions. Enjoy your revolution while I socialize and fail upwards or whatever.

>>2291431
TYBNA
I had a bad dream that you were arguing with someone on a thread and they made you really mad so you wrote that you would not post anymore news because they're so ungrateful.

9th Circuit Rules Trump Order for Mass Firings 'Far Exceeds' Constitutional Authority
The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday night kept in place a block on President Donald Trump's efforts for massive firings and agency restructuring across the federal government, saying a far-reaching executive order signed in February went way beyond his constitutional authority and that the potential harm caused by the terminations warrants the hold while legal challenges continue to play out in the courts.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-mass-firings-court-challenge

Gov. Newsom proposes ‘asset test’ for low-income and disabled Medi-Cal applicants. What does that mean?
For decades, low-income seniors and those with disabilities had to pass the “asset test” to be eligible for Medi-Cal and In-Home Supportive Services programs. That meant that a single applicant couldn’t qualify if they had assets valued more than $2,000. The limit for a couple was $3,000. To determine whether someone had $2,000 or not, the state would look at a person’s bank accounts, the amount of cash they had in hand and whether they had a second vehicle, among other analyses.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-05-30/gov-newsom-proposes-asset-test-for-low-income-and-disabled-medi-cal-applicants-what-does-that-mean
https://archive.ph/8EK4o

Homeland Security cops handcuff one of Rep. Nadler's aides in chaotic day at NY fed building
Robert Gottheim, Nadler’s co-chief of staff, confirmed there was no arrest but otherwise declined to comment on the unusual event that resulted in federal agents entering the office of a Democratic member of Congress, accusing office staffers of criminal wrongdoing and handcuffing a staffer.
https://gothamist.com/news/homeland-security-cops-handcuff-one-of-rep-nadlers-aides-in-chaotic-day-atPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Sweden: dockers go on the offensive after union leader fired for blocking military cargo to Israel
In February, Erik Helgeson, the national deputy chair and spokesperson of the Swedish Dockworkers’ Union, was fired. The reason? The union voted to block the handling of military equipment destined for Israel. In response to the workers’ decision, Gothenburg Roro Terminals (GRT), owned by Danish shipping giant DFDS, came down in full force against Helgeson, who was dismissed on the bogus grounds of being a threat to “national security”. This is an unprecedented attack on the Union and Helgeson, who has been a leading figure among the Dockworkers since the collective bargaining dispute of 2017. The union is alleged – by the employer, not the state – to have broken the law by compiling a dossier for the Swedish Labour Court "on the military trade exchange with Israel". But this is nothing more than a cheap excuse, since the dossier is based on public information. The union has taken the GRT to court over the illegitimate firing of Helgeson. The problem is that the multinational company operating the port can easily absorb the small fines that any court asks it to pay. DFDS reported a revenue of more than a billion euros in the first quarter of 2025 alone. Therefore, the union is now demanding an amendment to their collective bargaining agreement, where wrongful dismissals would incur damages of 1 percent of the employer's annual turnover. They are also demanding greater damages for other attempts to obstruct the work of elected worker representatives. In addition, they are demanding a strengthened obligation for the bosses to enter into negotiations, a ceiling on the use of temporary workers, a larger fund for supporting workers in need, and more.
https://marxist.com/sweden-dockers-go-on-the-offensive-after-union-leader-fired-for-blocking-military-cargo-to-israel.htm

Deir Yassin: A Brutal Massacre Carried Out By Zionist Death Squads in 1948 Etched Into the Consciousness of Palestinians
Deir Yassin is why we resist—to reclaim our stolen village and avenge the blood of our martyrs. Throughout the storied history of Palestinian resistance, heroes vowed revenge in the name of Deir Yassin: resistance fighters killed 77Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2289899
Hell yeah bro
Id post an encouraging meme if i had one, instead ill just wish you well comrade

>>2289899

Individual Acts
1933

Many divergent positions have been taken up on the burning of the Reichstag by Van Der Lubbe. In the organs of the communist left (Spartacus, Radencommunist) it was approved as the act of a revolutionary communist. To approve and applaud such an act means calling for it to be repeated. That's why it's important to understand what use it had.

Its only meaning could be to hit, to weaken, the ruling class, the bourgeoisie. There can be no question of this here. The bourgeoisie hasn't been at all hurt by the burning of the Reichstag. Its rule hasn't in any way been weakened. On the contrary, the government has seized the opportunity to strengthen considerably its terror against the workers movement. The ultimate consequences of this have yet to be appreciated.

But even if such an act really did hit or weaken the bourgeoisie, the only consequence of this would be to encourage the workers to believe that such individual acts could liberate them. The great truth that they have to learn, that only the mass action of the entire working class can defeat the bourgeoisie, this basic truth of revolutionary communism, would be obscured from them. It would lead them away from autonomous class action. Instead of concentrating all their forces on propaganda within the working masses revolutionary minorities would exhaust their energies in individual acts which, even when carried out by a large and dedicated group, would in no way shake the domination of the ruling class. With its considerable auxiliary forces, the bourgeoisie could easily master such a group. There has rarely been a minority group which carried out such actions with the devotion, sacrifice and energy of the Russian nihilists half-a-century ago. At certain moments it even seemed that, through a series of well-organized individual assassinations, they would succeed in overthrowing Tsarism. But a French policeman, called in to take over the anti-terrorist struggle in place of the incompetent Russian police, succeeded with his Western energy and organization to annihilate nihilism in a few years. It was only afterwards, with the development of the mass movement, that Tsarism was overthrown.

But doesn't such an act have a value as a demonstration against the abject electoralism which serves to derail the workers' struggles? A demonstraPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2289906
>>2289921
redditor crawls out of his cave, tragic!

>>2290528
>Doing something by yourself,
Did you read the OP? He said he is ORGANIZING. How does that imply doing anything by himself? Is he organizing himself?

>>2291410
you can organize a mass shooting on your own, OP is a certified school shooter

>>2282786
> holding public meetings without police approval
Sir! Sir! Our satanic God has not given his pedo priests the right certification rituals for you to open your mouth! Sir!

>>2289956
get a job at a govt agency, they are usually understaffed and in need of bureaucrats

>>2281903
I think as a marxist it's normal to have intrusive thoughts about working as an economic planner in a fascist occupation zone.

ITT WE UNMASK CRYPTOCOMMUNISTS WHO THINK THEY'RE OUTSMARTING EVERYONE

1) Alex Jones, long-term grifter and scammer raising funds for Zapatista rebels.

2) Brittany Spears.

>>2291287

Aleksandr Ivanovich, codenamed Comrade Jones, after his idol Jim Jones.