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>elon musk was born jun 28 1971 and has been alive roughly 1.73 billion seconds
>elon musk as of may 2026 has a net worth of 788 billion dollars
>elon musk has roughly $455 for every second he has been alive

classcucks will say he "earned" that. lmfao. that every second of his life, his genius brain innovates 455 dollars into his pocket.

can a person really "earn" that much or can they only get lucky and maybe also position themselves properly in a fundamentally exploitative system? some of you will no doubt answer that he "earned" it for the sake of provocative contrarianism
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>>2840209
Your answer to fixing capitalism is to btfo the rate of profit?

>>2855596
It's also just…a crappy movie, like on an objective level. Like REALLY crappy. Cheaply made, barely existent plot, mary sue protagonist and antagonists are all dumb as rocks. It's somehow bad enough that the boys over at TV Tropes are seriously considering this for the So Bad Its Horrible category, which if you're a work of political propaganda essentially means you've somehow managed to fail to appeal to even your core audience

shameful and shameless, a pea-brained yanqui
could only profess, yet another lefty
a half-thought mess, verily the OP
hasten and confess, thy really Bernie

>>2855596
Uwe Boll knew exactly what he's been doing and has been doing it for 27 years at least

>>2884206
>if you point out this american boer has more money than the entire country of yemen despite basically never working, it means you are a succdem



 

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>>2884172
coal

>>2884084
Well, he is a landlord with Emirati characteristics

>>2884196
why are you people always so obsessed with trans people? it was weird when it was just half of you constantly sperging out over them, but there isn't a single rightoid nowadays who can go more than 5 seconds without seething over them

>>2884205
Im obbssesed by them too. Because they are cute.

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>>2884127
>>2884127
>unrelated
So according to you, nazis, ethnosupremacists, that above all detested, Jews, Gypsies and Slavs and carried away the mass execution and genocide of these groups, shouldn't have faced any pushback and these groups didn't need to fight back?
Do you understand the implication of what you illiterate reply entails?
Or is it being contrarian a flex so important to you you need to show how sociopathic can you be in the process of championing that contrarianism?
Before you reply, understand the relationship of what's said, and why China doesn't need to invade India or Pakistan
Because:

>Their governments aren't ideologically ethnosupremacist that see China as their main race to kill

>>2884208
Hey comrade. Can you do me a solid? I am far away from my desktop. Field work today. Can you bake a new bread!

Thanks man.



>>2883573
Xi has not ruled out military force in regards to Taiwan, Japan, India, etc.
I think most people in China accept that a war with Japan is very likely.



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99.9999% of fights on leftypol are over whether the top pic or the bottom pic is true.

https://strawpoll.com/GeZARkvDRyV

So which is it leftypol?

1: The 1st world bourgeoisie and 1st world workers are trying to crush the 3rd world bourgeoisie and the 3rd world workers

2: The 1st world bourgeoisie and 3rd world bourgeoisie are trying to crush the 1st world workers and the 3rd world workers
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>>2881303
Truke of the highest caliber

Still using cold war terms is so cringe

>>2883908
we're gonna VOTE VOTE VOTE
it's our moment
you know together we're voting
gonna be gonna be voting
WOAH OH OH

>>2883919
people use it interchangeably to refer to the level of development of a country, and to its "NATO vs. BRICS" (cold war 2) alignment.

>>2884052
do the toilets in NATO countries magically clean themselves?



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For marxists, communism is the general movement of the proletariat establishing a new mode of production for itself by overcoming the existing capitalist relations of productions (i.e. wage labor, for-profit production etc).
Every mode of production implies the existence of one group (or class) imposing its set of rules and norms upon the fores of production to realize their ambitions.

As such, feudalism emerged from the centralized empires of Antiquity by having familial clans overcome the ancient empire's armies and taking control over the agrarian and territory-based MoP. These clans later dispersed and broke down into hundreds of personal domains belonging to individuals.
The bourgeoisie managed to overcome the arbitraryness of the previous MoP by first fleeing into cities, and afterwards by pushing for the rationalization of the State's institutions to protect their property rights.

But what can the communist movement hope to achieve ? All of the previous MoP could not create to the same degree that capitalism does the fake consciousness. None of the previous bureaucratic-military apparatus could control the entirety of the population through technological means enabling mass surveillance, psychological warfare, complete control over the information etc.

The 20th century had the unique possibility of creating a mass communist movement but failed spectacularly. The average person is incapable of dissociating the worst excesses of ML regimes from the broader communist movement. Economics are completely dominated by implicit bourgeois norms. Firms have been overtaking very slowly the State to be more "efficient" without even having to answer which normative goal they aim to accomplish by being more "efficient". It seems impossible for us to realistically try to recreate the conditions necessary for a revolution. And lastly, all of the alt-left movement like the Zapatistas or Rojava failed because they were incapable of adapting to the modern conditions of the capitalist MoP.

So, what are you guys thought and predictions on the future ? I don't want to doompost but I just don't see a viable alternative for the future than more neoliberalism until firms come to overpower the State and recreate feudal relations with their employees. The 20th century was our only shot and we blew it.
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>>2884051
That’s because a union doesn’t exist to overthrow anything, it exists to get more money and benefits for itself and its members, those got broken along with any and all communist parties in sufficiently industrialized countries. They only managed to pull it off in places with a large peasantry or in the colonies where the bourgeois was either weak or could unite with the communists to cast out compradors and imperialist bourgeois.

2. Conservative or Bourgeois Socialism
>A part of the bourgeoisie is desirous of redressing social grievances in order to secure the continued existence of bourgeois society. To this section belong economists, philanthropists, humanitarians, improvers of the condition of the working class, organisers of charity, members of societies for the prevention of cruelty to animals, temperance fanatics, hole-and-corner reformers of every imaginable kind. This form of socialism has, moreover, been worked out into complete systems. We may cite Proudhon’s Philosophie de la Misère as an example of this form. The Socialistic bourgeois want all the advantages of modern social conditions without the struggles and dangers necessarily resulting therefrom. They desire the existing state of society, minus its revolutionary and disintegrating elements. They wish for a bourgeoisie without a proletariat. The bourgeoisie naturally conceives the world in which it is supreme to be the best; and bourgeois Socialism develops this comfortable conception into various more or less complete systems. In requiring the proletariat to carry out such a system, and thereby to march straightway into the social New Jerusalem, it but requires in reality, that the proletariat should remain within the bounds of existing society, but should cast away all its hateful ideas concerning the bourgeoisie. A second, and more practical, but less systematic, form of this Socialism sought to depreciate every revolutionary movement in the eyes of the working class by showing that no mere political reform, but only a change in the material conditions of existence, in economical relations, could be of any advantage to them. By changes in the material conditions of existence, this form of Socialism, however, by no means understands abolition of the bourgeois relations of production, an abolition that can be affected only by a revolution, but administrative reforms, based on the
continued existence of these relations; reforms, therefore, that in no respect affect the relations
between capital and labour, but, at the best, lessen the cost, and simplify the administrative work, of bourgeois government. Bourgeois Socialism attains adequate expression when, and only when, it becomes a mere figure
of speech. Free trade: for the benefit of the working class. Protective duties: for the benefit of the working
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>>2884056
*only a section
and i fucked up the formatting

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I think you're treating capitalism's current strength as if it were a permanent feature of history rather than a historical stage. Marx never argued that capitalism would collapse because people simply became convinced by communist arguments. He argued that every mode of production develops contradictions that eventually become too great to manage. Class consciousness is a product of struggle, not a prerequisite for it. Think about it: the Roman peasant did not wake up one morning as a conscious feudalist, and the medieval burgher did not first write liberal theory and then overthrow feudalism. Material development came first, political consciousness developed through conflict, and only afterwards did a new ruling class consolidate its ideology. Why would socialism be the only exception?

I also think you're giving bourgeois ideology too much credit. Yes, capitalist media, surveillance, advertising, and education are vastly more sophisticated than anything previous ruling classes possessed. But they exist precisely because the bourgeoisie cannot simply rely on naked force anymore. Their ideological apparatus is not evidence of invincibility; it is evidence of constant maintenance. A stable ruling class does not need to spend billions manufacturing consent every year.

As for the 20th century, I don't think "we blew our only shot" is a Marxist conclusion. The Russian Revolution happened in one of Europe's least-developed capitalist countries, after a world war had shattered the state. The Chinese Revolution emerged from semi-colonial conditions. Neither represented the mature capitalist societies Marx expected to become socialist first. Their successes and failures should therefore be analyzed concretely, not mythologized either positively or negatively. People also overestimate the permanence of capitalist legitimacy. In 1900, monarchy looked eternal. In 1985, the USSR looked permanent. In 2005, globalization looked unstoppable. History repeatedly humiliates predictions of permanence.

The real question is not "why aren't workers revolutionary?" but "what objective conditions produce revolutionary organization?" Right now, the working class is fragmented, international capital is highly mobile, unions are weak in many countries, and communist parties are either marginal or revisionist. Those are organizational problems, not proof that capitalism has transcended its contradictions. Ironically, many of the tendencies you describe are Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2884033
>labor aristocrats
ok porky



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The Hamas leadership knew what the consequences would be, yet they pursued their course anyway. They understood that Israel was winning and that it was normalizing its relationships with the Arab world. In time the Palestinians people would have been pushed aside politically and culturally.

The attack, the suffering, and everything that followed were the pursuit of the ultimate act of propaganda of the dead. It was never about winning. it was about showing the world the subhumanity of Israel. They sacrificed their own people, their sons and themselves. The strength to do it and the will to carry it through are something sacred.
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>>2884004
Yes and that's because Hamas didn't plan to die in a blaze of glory. They remained committed and endured suffering.

>>2884005
At least the IDF are bleeding in Lebanon and Syria

>>2883987
The mfs that say that "western leftists" have christian ideals and love martyrs and losers then turn around and suck off islamist losers lmao.

Islamists ᴉuᴉlossnWs dying like dogs. Damn, like real ᴉuᴉlossnW.

>>2884035
I hate Western leftists and I do not think that Western leftists have Christian ideals or any ideals for that matter, beyond new left degeneracy. They are worthless degenerates who have done nothing for the world but navelgaze.
>>2884037
Hamas are better socialists then all Western Leftists



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>participates in the destabilisation of the third world in the name of treats
>refugees flee the third world to escape the instability
>they flee to your territory ON THE SAME CONTINENT
>this is somehow the fault of everyone except you and your friends
eurocuck moment
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You morns really don't understand this is going to accelerate the collapse of the left and the rise of Caudioism

>>2883968
There isn't and hasn't been a "left" movement for over 30 years now. Not even a rise of it.

You morns really don't understand this is going to accelerate the collapse of the left and the rise of Caudioism

>>2883870
how the fuck is this zionist

>>2883978
look into it



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Was he even wrong?
>Paris Commune was preceded by the Franco-Prussian war, it's contradictions and crisis allowed it to happen
>Russian revolution was preceded by the deadliest war in history at the time, it's contradictions and crisis allowed it to happen
>WW2 preceded the communist revolutions in Eastern Europe, Korea, and China. The contradictions and crisises developed the revolution

why would nuclear war not have the same effect if not a greater effect? Would nuclear war not be a global crisis that would bring about the conditions for international revolution?
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>>2879234
btw frogs do in fact notice change in the water's temperature,which is why you cook them the same way you do lobsters,if you would slowly rise the heat,she would just wake up and jump out

>>2879240
The extent of the eccentricities of Posadas was being a sect leader at 65-69 and earlier in his life advocating for thermonuclear war during the cuban missle crisis. The alien stuff was mostly his sectmembers after he passed. Dolphin stuff are overblown ramblings of an old weak and confused man, but he had claimed an that dolphins after establishment of communism would be comrades.
At least that's from what I gauged from reading A.M. Gittlitz "I want to believe".

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>it is contradictions and crisis allowed it to happen

How is this guy not criminally underrated? Seems his problem was being ahead of his time?

>>2879240
Yeah, the real absurdity here is that he's a trotskyist



 

The replies of thread >>2766805 have been so poor I intended to make a new thread, giving a historical overview of the last few decades of the communist movement.

>What is the difference between:

>Mao Zedong Thought [ML-MZT]
>Maoism-ThirdWorldism [M3W]
<Missing: >Classical Marxism-Leninism-Maoism [classical MLM]. Exemplified by Communist Party of the Philippines and Communist Party of India (Maoist) as key leaders and influences.
>Gonzalo Thought [aka "MLM-pM" and "Gonzaloism"]
>How interrelated are they?

Comrades. don't forget these tools:
<Historical materialism.
<General-Particular-General dialectical spiral in analysis.
<Never capitulate proletarian leadership to reactionary classes.
<Analyze the contradictory relationship of petty-bourgeois ideology to scientific socialism-communism throughout time, which always ends just yesterday.

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>>2874004
bro what a weird ass thing to say
>you're a victim of a heinous crime!!!!!
how is that a gotcha to anyone but a reactionary slime mold

>>2874002
>>2874031
thank you for the replies to this question. I will ponder them now but don't have much to say back except thank you. I just want you to know I have received and read them.

>>2874164 stop moralfagging on leftypol

>>2874197
it's fucking weird and you know it.

>>2874197
>moralfagging is when you realize that calling someone "raped" is a non-argument



 

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>>2881527
>this is one of the more interesting parts of his article that the anon should have posted

It is interesting. I just couldn't be bothered to post more because I doubted anyone would read it, and even when they do there's usually just
>>2881523
<nuance is the faggiest bullshit of all
Tier responses.

>>2881527
if he doesn't know the value of venezuelan oil how can he claim china was getting a 15% discount?

Looks like Rodriguez is transitioning in the opposition.

>>2879442
so how is great genius delcy going to fix the problem of america controlling the accounts where oil payments are made once trump is gone?

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