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>>2820656
Wie kommt es, dass sich statt dem treffenderem Wort Antijudaismus, der Araber einschließende "Antisemitismus" als Schnöselbezeichnung für Judenhass durchgesetzt hat?

>>2820656
zl;ng
ab in den ofen

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Ein weiterer Taz-Report wechselt zu Springer. Ganz normal in D-Land.

>>2824682
Es kommt immer zusammen, was zusammen gehört.



 

No seriously. Why did veganism and animal rights activism seemingly die out entirely from the left?

I’m old enough (38) to remember when veganism was practically a litmus test for determining if you were a principled leftist or not, especially in anarchist and Maoist spaces. Nowadays it seems like no one under 28 is vegan anymore, or gives a shit about animal rights.

Having become an anarchist as a teenager in the early 2000s, I fully remember how interwoven the radical left was with the animal rights and vegan movements. Gen X and xennial comrades in particular were very dogmatic about this issue, arguably more than they were most issues concerning US imperialism. But the younger generation doesn’t seem to care at all. Why?

For the record, I was never vegan and I eat an omnivore diet now, but still.
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>>2812031
partially because i am a lazy, flawed person who is good at compartmentalizing (this is of course 99% of the practical reason), partially because i am a pedant who judges that buying discounted meat (i am also a cheapskate) kills no cows (the killing comes before the selling) and that a structural resolution is necessary (and i can contribute to a structural resolution by defending vegans online while quietly continuing to eat meat and by preaching the gospel of "just increase the price of meat" - obviously i undermine the first part by being honest with you, but here we are.), and partially because i have a calvinist streak and so have always been at ease with the idea that i'm mired in sin (and suspicious of meat-eaters instinctive desire to defend themselves or rationalize why obvious wrongdoing is actually fine, rather than to accept their fractional involvement in immorality and with it, the generally evil state of the world.)

>>2812018
>utilitarianism
wow cool ethical framework, where'd you find it? philosophy 101? you dumbass. you basic bitch.

utilitarianism is the mark of the pseud. morons use it when they're out of their depth shortly before losing. tim pool does it constantly. one cow feeds a lot of people. if killing one cow feeds many people it must be good. killing two must be even better!

it gets proved over and over that vegans don't care about animals enough to do proper scholarship, and prefer to post torture porn which is fast, cheap, and cathartic. you guys have consistently failed to prove that veganism isn't ascetic moralism, and that ending meat consumption is even a worthy goal.

hell, I've been begging for proof of the environmental benefits that isn't: vegan resource use = resource use - livestock resource use. or economic proof that isn't based on imperial core net importers like europe or north america.

stupid fucking moralist fucking reductive arguments that don't quantify anything and abuse outliers are worthless. you are worthless. go eat more processed vegan slop from israel you mindless bovine.

>>2797233
This is objectively the correct answer.

I remember reading about some old school vegan society from way back, like the early 20th century or something. They originally promoted veganism along the lines of health. When they started promoting veganism along the lines of "the animals" they lost more than half their membership.

I think the same is generally true today. The vegans who stick with it the longest are always the ones who do it on the basis that a vegan diet is healthier and will give you superpowers if you do it long enough (a lot of raw vegans are like this whereby they think the degeneration of the human race came when humans started eating grains, meats, and dairy products). Whereas, the people who are vegan "for the animals" usually quit after 2-5 years because they realize it's not worth it.

It makes me wonder how a future socialist society would promote veganism, if they would do so at all. "Vegan for 'the proles'" maybe. But how long would that last before people throw in the towel and revert to omnivore?

>veganism was practically a litmus test for determining if you were a principled leftist or not, especially in anarchist and Maoist spaces
Never happened. At no point in time and in no country ever has this been the majority position among Tankies, among progressives, among Trots, among etc.

>Nowadays it seems like no one under 28 is vegan anymore

Proportionally speaking, meaning relative to the size of what it used to be, the group of vegans has massively increased over the past 30 years pretty much everywhere. An example: 1. Over the past five years, the percentage of Swiss vegans more than doubled. 2. It is still less than one percent. These two statements are not in contradiction.

So, post >>2797236 is right. The premise of this thread is a hallucination.

>>2805710
If demand goes down, production goes down.



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Frankly, a significant portion of the misunderstanding surrounding core anti-capitalist concepts originates not from bourgeois critics but from self‑identified leftists themselves. Accusations that my comrades and I are grifters when not deliberately dishonest rest on a fundamental failure to grasp nihilism, egoism, Marxism, anti‑colonial thought, anarchism, and Juche. This failure is not accidental, it follows from a method of study that substitutes the consumption of ideological labels for dialectical analysis. Such leftists do not apply historical materialism to their own theoretical formations, they simply repeat phrases, quotes or general ideas. That is they pick a tendency, rehearse its approved formulations, and mistake repetition for understanding.


Juche understood as the principle of self‑reliance under conditions of imperialist blockade, is not a mystique but a strategic necessity. A besieged collective cannot secure its members' survival by depending on foreign patrons. Stirner's "Union of Egoists" similarly describes a tactical alliance of autonomous individuals who cooperate because cooperation serves each one's self‑interest. There is no necessary contradiction between collective and individualist. Under conditions of material scarcity and state violence, the individual's own survival is materially preconditioned by the collective's capacity to defend itself and reproduce its means of life. Self‑reliance is the infrastructure of individual agency. A solitary egoist has no power; a network of egoists, a collective organized around mutual material interest, does. This is what Stirner termed a union of unique individuals. It follows from the concrete conditions of struggle. Stirner was using the same dialectical materialism as Marx.

The Nihilist Roots of Bolshevism

The standard narrative of Leninism as a clean break from nihilism is historically inaccurate. Lenin's older brother, Alexander Ulyanov, was a leader of a nihilist conspiracy to assassinate Tsar Alexander III; he was executed in 1887. That event directly shaped Lenin's revolutionary orientation. Sergey Nechayev's Catechism of a Revolutionary with its rejection of bourgeois morality and its justification of any means necessary circulated within the revolutionary underground that produced Bolshevism. Lenin openly stated that nihilism shaped him into an individual fit for collective revolution, saying his experience with nPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2822417
>>2822428
You are fighting with people in your head, schizo. Seriously, get help. You're not tough, just a pathetic schizo loser posting fake pictures trying to get a rise out of people. You're not going to save the nation, you're just a pathetic troll.

Seriously, get some psychological help.

>>2822562
He doesn’t need help with his mindset, he needs the warm embrace of fentanyl

>>2822565
Judging by his schizo posts that he spams everywhere and his nonstop LARPing with AI generated images, he's already huffing that shit every single day.

>>2822566
Because he’s only tipping his toes in the water, not going all in if you know what I mean

>>2822566
If he got an opiate addiction at least he'd chill the fuck out.
To me he has all the hallmarks of a psychotic amphetamine user. Yank so probably meth.



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Thoughts on Black Nationalism and LandBack? Do you think it's just Zionism for minorities or is it an actual national liberation movement with genuine Marxist credibility?
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There’s black people in every region of the US, the Great Migration deleted the whole reason for a theoretical Black Belt SSR

>>2822495
>Black Belt SSR
Do ML's really?

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>>2822503
They tried anyway

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>>2821680
The U$ is a Prison house of Nations, which treats the Black/New Afrikan, Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo, and First Nations/Native American populations like they are not U$ citizens (Trump ending birthright citizenship will probably transform this from a De facto to a De jure reality by officially stripping citizenship from most of these populations), with them essentially acting as a permanent domestic underclass with essentially no rights that are exploited for cheap labor and disproportionately suffer from Mass incarceration and police brutality, with their neighborhoods essentially under De facto occupation by militarized police (The ICE raids in Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo communities throughout the U$, and Trumps deployment of the National Guard to Black/New African and Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo neighborhoods in Los Angeles, DC, and Memphis, has essentially made this a De Jure reality), as New Afrika, Aztlan, and the First Nations, are Oppressed Nations/Internal Colonies inside of the U$, and their National Liberation should be the number one goal of U$ Communists (U$ Communists must give up on the Quixotic Bourgeois Electoralist Tailist Chauvinist effort to desperately appeal to the Ultra-Reactionary White Settler Labor Aristocracy) as stipulated by the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination for all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union , which will happen once the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW (in both the Periphery/Semi-Periphery where Maoist Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2822523
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>Nazi Germany had one singular Labor Union that was controlled by the state, named the "Deutsche Arbeitsfront" (DAF) or in english, the "German Labor Front"
>Robert Ley, the Nazi-appointed head of the DAF promised "to restore absolute leadership to the natural leader of a factory—that is, the employer… Only the employer can decide."
>Nazi Germany banned all forms of collective bargaining, all other labor unions were banned and workers were no longer permitted to strike
>The Nazis appointed business leaders, industrialists and various other bourgeoisie figures to the DAF, handing them total control over the workers
>This is Corporatist Class Collaboration, a core principal of Fascism
<The People's Republic of China has one singular Labor Union that was controlled by the state, named the "中华全国总工会" or in english, the "All-China Federation of Trade Unions"
<In China all independent labor unions have been banned and workers are not permitted to strike
<The CPC has a documented practice of appointing corporate bureaucrats ACFTU, handing them total control over the workers
<This is Market Socialism, a core principal of Communism with Chinese Characteristics
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>>2819494
>didn't read On the Jewish Question…

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>>2820594
>Lenin died admitting the failure of the NEP and the bourgeoisie directing production in the USSR
sauce?

>>2820956
Israel is so neoliberal they've even started privatizing their weapons manufacturers. As always the ultra relies on people being completely ignorant of what is actually happening in the real world.

>>2819106
I knew China was Proudhonist, I didn't know they were Trotskist too!



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Whole highway lobby sucks piss off the government tit, fucking warmongering ecocidal babykillers bulldoze poor and minority communities, also big oil funds transphobia. Fuck'em suburbs, fuck'em small homeowners, fuck'em petite-bourgeoisie. Fuck'em Southern petrofascist Christians too. Fuck TOG (Texas-Occupied Government), fuck the USA, fuck Evangelicals and their oil wealth. Fuck Christian Wahhabism. Fuck the military-highway-industrial complex.

Bump

=based= there was a time when you could get from one side of the country to the other on trams which went town-to-town. The reason why roads were paved in the US was because bicyclist unions demanded it from the government.

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Essential theory consulted





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Why isn't there any communist revoluntionary action in haiti?
I know theres like one group trying but its really just a gang and isnt actually communist
The entire bourgesise goverment has collapsed, theres already a communist party, and even americans are trying to establish colonies in it to rape people, like seriously are you just gonna let a bunch of crackers take over again?

Come on, do something already

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haitian_Communist_Party_(Marxist%E2%80%93Leninist)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/21/texas-haiti-rape-indictment?

https://www.blackagendareport.com/challenging-imperialism-communist-party-kenya-stands-solidarity-justice-and-equality-haitian-people
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Because turns out 18th century theory isn't working well in the 21st century

>>2819554
who cares what that grifter glowie is doing.

>>2819423
Does gangs taking over the country count as communist revolutionary action?

>Why isn't there any communist revoluntionary action in haiti?
The west has already been perpetually punishing Haiti for having a successful slave rebellion for over 200 years at this point, if they ever had any socialist movement at all then America would kill every Haitian person.



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who will leftypol support in the upcoming greek turko war????
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>>2820730
>Turkey also disputes Greece’s right to extend its territorial waters from six to 12 nautical miles under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), warning that such a move could constitute a casus belli. Greece is a signatory to UNCLOS, while Turkey is not.

So Iran shits up UNCLOS, and Turkey isn't far behind? That didn't take long at all.

Email them to cut it out.

Shit vs piss

>>2822341
Team sports faggot.

>>2820843
Incorrect. Bulgaria belongs to Serbian.



 

Any predictions for the outcome of the 2026 American midterm elections?

Any socialists on the ballot?

Any guesses as to how the redistributing/gerrymandering issue will play into things?

How do you think issues like Trump’s wars, the tariffs, ICE raids, Black issues, Medicare For All, the climate, voting rights, abortion, trans issues, autistic/neurodivergent issues, and Palestine will affect the outcome? For instance, are we seeing a split in the Democrats over Palestine and other foreign policy issues?
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>>2818940
Geg so true

>>2813177
History has shown that doesn’t happen, quite the opposite, fascism is a tool of the bourgeois to stop Communism.

>>2822323
It’s literally worse at that than regular liberal democracy, especially social democracy

either the republicans gerry their mander hard enough to maintain their majority or we are about to see the funniest
round of republican republican moralfagging since kirk got shot

We should make this a general methinks



 

Why are small towns so Hitlerite? There's just an incredible amount of tribalism, anti-intellectualism and moral busybody behavior. Small towners are just people who don't know how to mind their own fucking business and get outraged over every moral panic. What the fuck is wrong with these libertarian freaks who want to diddle little girls and execute the gays? I've noticed that a lot of marginalized groups also maintain these kinds of small town politics. I just don't get it.
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>>2800638
>muh primitivism

>>2800529
Collectivism and individualism are spooks.

>>2800005
Selection effects: open minded progressive types move to the city, leaving behind only the sort of person so small minded that they can't imagine leaving.

This is also why Britain is a shithole and why for all its flaws America is an innovative (if crazy) country: it is positively selected for those who'd gamble on a better life.

>>2800574
Why are you blaming the action of jew in Israel on white people in rural America? Hillbillies don't run AIPAC, they didn't run the Epstein black mail ring, and their votes don't matter. The Palestinian genocide is being done by jews in Israel, and enabled by jewish supremacist lobbies in America, why are you angry at white people in West Virginia or Ohio? Their role in all of this being lied to about immigration.

>>2822066
That post was sarcastic hence the "Good one."

>>2800653
If you want to study animals in captivity and improve their conditions, you have to study the natural state, yes. Otherwise they fail to flourish and do weird things like pace out of boredom, pluck out their feathers and hair, fail to reproduce, etc.



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