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>Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
>proud hon
What's up with the name? Was the founder of anarchism and prominent antisemite a non-passing, but confident transgender woman?
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>>2881022
He was an anti semite?
Maybe I should actually read him

>>2881037
Yeah as much as Bakunin gets flack for his antisemitism, which was mostly limited to a few outbursts triggered by Marx and friends outmaneuvering him, Proudhon was a lot worse about it

>>2881049
Any particular texts highlighting this?

Still crazy to me this uygha was like praised during marxs time and is now a skidmark of history.
Shit this uygha is probably Hasan of his day

It's pronounced proo-dohn



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The following analysis of structural coercion and surplus extraction holds entirely true even if the classical Labor Theory of Value (LTV) is mathematically false. Whether the ultimate price of a commodity is determined by socially necessary labor time or subjective marginal utility, the physical reality of the power dynamic remains unchanged. Surplus extraction is a function of material leverage, not the metaphysical origin of economic value.

1. Ownership is a Survival Bottleneck
<The capitalist does not participate in value creation merely through ownership; they control a physical bottleneck. They gatekeep the tools, infrastructure, and resources required to produce a livelihood. Because the owning class has historically enclosed the means of production as private property, the worker cannot survive independently. They are physically forced to approach the capitalist to secure the means of their own survival.

2. The Contract is Structural Extortion
<Because the worker's alternative to employment is homelessness and starvation (structural coercion), the negotiation is absolutely asymmetrical. The capitalist dictates the terms: "I will allow you access to my tools to earn your survival, but only if you surrender a significant portion of the value you generate to me." The worker must comply. This is not a voluntary transaction; it is extortion backed by biological necessity.

3. Surplus is a "Survival Tax
<Regardless of how prices are set on the market, the mathematical difference between the revenue the worker's output generates and the wage they receive is siphoned by the owner. This surplus is not a legitimate reward for "time preference" or "risk," as mainstream economics insists. It is a survival tax, a toll the worker pays for the right to remain alive. The capitalist can collect this tax exclusively because state violence (police and property laws) protects their monopoly over the means of production.

Materialist Conclusion
<Surplus extraction is a pure metric of power. It calculates exactly how much material wealth the owning class can squeeze from the producing class using the structural threat of starvation, stopping just short of triggering mass dPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2879582
>ultra
>labor power
i'm not an ultra and didn't mention labor power. as for the pic I am just retarded and copied the wrong thing from the booru. I meant to post this. I was commenting marginal utility

>>2879594
Oh, well, you should know that the idea that socialism is when every workers directly receives back the "value of their labor" is a proudhonist idea, and marx critiqued it himself

Workers sell thwir labor power, not labor, meaning they sell their potential to be performing any kind of labor. And the problem with capitalism is not merely that the capitalist skims off the top, but that this potentiality is subordinated to the irrational goal of reproducing capital itself, rather than anything else we could be doing

Thus the point is not that workers should "own the fruits of their labor" like some pwtty bourg producer.
When you expend labor it has already entered the sphere of social/common wealth, to say that you "ought to" own some part of it, your individual contribution, as an individual, is still liberalism. The point is to rationally organize the production process, politically.

the point of Das Kaptal is that it's a critique of political economy baka OP

>>2879595
So once again the point is to hope the ones in charge of "rationalizing" production don't end up giving themselves any advantage ?

>>2879595
I think you make a good point, but then it's hard to imagine anyone (save a handful of technocrats) really being an enthusiast for this. Many of the most enjoyable parts of capitalism are irrationalities in the production process, while many of the most dire parts are in fact rational efficiency savings. (e.g. that you can make a living drawing furry porn is "irrational" but good work if you can get it, while taylorism is so miserable that capitalists had to project it onto communism. and, tbf, AES states did embrace it.)

While theoretically one can imagine a world where we organise things so efficiently and so rationally that we only have to work a few hours a week, I think this is over-optimistic when one focuses on efficiency. We already live in a world where we could work but a few hours a week - if we'd accept being poorer in consequence. We can always work harder to be richer, so the most rational way to organise the production process can always appear to be an intensified version of the status quo…



 

/leftypol/'s most ignored general is back

Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades: Study
https://ground.news/article/earth-is-now-heating-up-twice-as-fast-as-in-previous-decades-study_63acf6

Humanity heating planet faster than ever before, study finds
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/mar/06/humanity-heating-planet-faster-than-ever-before-study-finds

Microplastics found in 90% of prostate cancer tumors, at much higher levels than healthy tissues, study reveals
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/02/260225001250.htm


Was War with Iran Sparked by Water?
https://erickeyser.substack.com/p/was-war-with-iran-sparked-by-water?r=1r05cx&triedRedirect=true&_src_ref=old.reddit.com

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>>2877370
Slopper stop slopping. Your text for the most part doesn’t even touch on artificial meat production other than mentioning it’s name. The rest is a weird tangent and arguments that are only applicable for modern day regular meat production. You didn’t even fucking try.

>>2877665
because taking plants and turning them into fake meat just adds a bunch of unnecessary processing steps. why would i eat shitty imitation sausages made out of plant protein when I could just eat peas?

>>2877696
>because taking plants and turning them into fake meat just adds a bunch of unnecessary processing steps.
We are talking about lab grown products, not highly processed plant based imitation products. Also, not every sort of imitation product has to be cost intensive or even highly processed you know?

This video is the second part of a discussion between John Bellamy Foster and Lynn Fries on Marx’s analysis of the dialectics of society and nature. One of Marx’s concerns was how manufacturers would extract soil nutrients, such as nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium, use them to make products like fiber, and not return the chemicals to the soil but instead generate pollution. And then the clever capitalists would import guano to make synthetic fertilizers to restore the productivity of farmland.

>>2877709
lab grown meat is even stupider.



 

>Never become the leader of any socialist country

>Fucking die


>Commies keep denying your word for decades


>A century later your writings becomes fundamental in modern Marxist thought


Ts is where China got their "do nothing, win" strategy from
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>>2881045
>Yes, that's why barely any were actually purged.

3 out of 5 of the Marshalls of the Soviet Union were purged (Tukhachevsky,Blyukher,Yegorov)

>Only the schizo freaks like Tukhachevsky were shot.


He "used to" believe in slavic mythology, who he later dismissed as his "embarrassing, childish past". He was well integrated in the communist military leadership. His last notable "schizo freak" action was petitioning Slavic Paganism to be the state-religion of the Union in the early phase.
He was an exceptionally gifted commander, who would efficiently manage numerous civil war fronts, revolts & would led the Red Army forces to the Warsaw with fewer army strength. (Which would be divided due to disagreements between Stalin/Budyonny & Tukhachevsky and fail in the assault)

Never forget that the nazis actively forged documents about "his ties with the SS" or something, and they were the most pleased after his tragic purge. (The papers obtained from nazis weren't used in his persecution either…)

Vasily Blyukher was the Soviet General who would oversee & plan the operational depth of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Expedition

All of the purged Soviet generals had more comprehensive theories and understanding of modern warfare and military tactics, who would actually demonstrate it.
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>>2881069
>He was an exceptionally gifted commander
You have to understand what that means, cause in 100% cases that means someone like >>2881068

>>2880777
Why Stalin killed Bukharin?

why stalin kill bukharin

>>2880994
>the mass slaughter of Ukrainians and Balts
Nevee happened



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>PT (Worker's Party)
The current ruling party. Centre-left. Popular with teachers.
>PL (Liberal Party)
The main opposition party. Far-right. Popular with baby boomers.
>Novo (New)
Libertarian. Popular with rich people.
>PSOL (Socialism and Liberty Party)
Left-wing with a focus on social issues like feminism and LGBT rights. Popular with young women.
>Missão (Mission)
Alt-right. Popular with young men (mostly on the internet).
>NR (New Resistance)
Nazbol. Popular with… nobody, they're not even a real party.
>PCB (Brazilian Communist Party)
Far-left, not to be confused with PCdoB (Communist Party of Brazil) which split from it and is more reformist. Popular with old communists.
>PSDB (Brazilian Social Democracy Party)
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>PL
>far-right
Só na sua cabeça.

>>2879465
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Brazil,_2006)
>The Liberal Party (Portuguese: Partido Liberal, PL) is a right-wing[9] to far-right[10] political party in Brazil.

>>2879472
>I-it's on Wikipedia so it's true!

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>>2879476
You want primary sources?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_(Brazil,_2006)#cite_note-farright-10
>"Bolsonaro party challenges Brazil election result". BBC News. 23 November 2022. Retrieved 6 February 2025. The far-right party of Brazil's outgoing president, Jair Bolsonaro, has challenged some votes in October's election that saw him lose narrowly to leftist Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.
>Harris, Bryan (24 September 2023). "Brazil's conservative carnival tries to put on brave face in era of resurgent left". Financial Times. Retrieved 6 February 2025. "Lula's government is marked by hatred, resentment and revenge," said Julia Zanatta, a federal lawmaker with Bolsonaro's increasingly far-right Liberal party.
>Venugopalan, Murali; Venugopalan, Johanna; Venugopalan, Mundiyath (26 May 2023). One Nice Guy Not so Nice: Joe Biden's Ineptitude. AuthorHouse. ISBN 979-8-8230-0783-2. Seventy-seven old former president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva from the left-wing Workers' Party beat sixty-seven year old President Jair Bolsonaro from the far-right Liberal Party by five percentage points in the first round, four weeks ago.
>Munk, Tine; Kennedy, Morag (3 September 2024). Victimisation in the Digital Age: An Online/Offline Continuum Approach. Taylor & Francis. ISBN 978-1-040-13048-3. The legal actions were initiated by the Liberal Party, a far-right group that supported the establishment of Jair Bolsonaro's government.
>Mukherjee, Hoimi (1 June 2023). "Brazil's Emergence in the United States' 'Backyard': Domestic Leadership and Systemic Status". Jadavpur Journal of International Relations. 27 (1): 7–32. doi:10.1177/09735984231161723. ISSN 0973-5984. Recent disclosure shed light on the role played by the United States and a section of anti-Lula elites in Lula's controversial arrest and the rise of Bolsonaro of the far-right Liberal Party (Fishman et al. 2020; Fox 2022).

Does the BBC (which is United Kingdom state media) and Financial Times have a “left-wing bias” too?

>Popular with NPCs
Nem com esses. O MDB só ganha votos de gente disposta a eleger os coronéis locais ou os candidatos randolas do bairro (cujos votos também vão para o coronel local) sem sequer olhar para a legenda.



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A thread for the forgotten continent, so forgotten the thread got wiped.
Discuss anything related to:
>Algeria
>Angola
>Benin
>Botswana
>Burkina Faso
>Burundi
>Cabo Verde
>Cameroon
>Central African Republic (CAR)
>Chad
>Comoros
>Congo, Democratic Republic of the
>Congo, Republic of the
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How Mexican drug cartels have outsourced meth labs to Nigeria

The Nigerian judge was formally dressed, the lawyers maintained legal decorum and protocol was followed – but this hearing was not in the comfortable confines of a Lagos courtroom, it was inside an alleged illicit drug laboratory in the thick of a dense forest.

Three Mexicans and seven Nigerians were paraded in handcuffs, as Justice Musa Kakaki inspected the chemicals and equipment they were accused of using to produce the harmful illegal synthetic drug, methamphetamine, commonly known as meth, crystal meth or, locally, ice.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crmrnxp4nllo

>bandits

>islamist insurgency
>latent separatists
>and now drug cartels
Is Nigeria just doomed to collapse?

A Thin Rope Holds the Line Against Ebola on Uganda’s Border

Uganda has developed a global reputation for its efficiency in containing infectious diseases, including H.I.V., Covid-19 and Ebola. While the disease is raging through communities in Congo, Uganda appears to have it under control.
There have been 20 confirmed Ebola cases in Uganda thus far, but the country has not registered a new case in more than a month. Fifteen of those patients came across the border, some to seek treatment in Ugandan hospitals. Aside from two patients who died, the rest have recovered. The others were quarantined and released, the authorities said this month. Bundibugyo has not recorded a single infection in this outbreak.
“They know how to handle it,” said Dr. Wessam Mankoula, who leads the country’s Ebola response unit at the Africa Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, referring to Ugandan health officials.
The effect of that expertise in Bundibugyo is to see life carry on as normal, despite the threat just across the river, which is often shallow enough to ford.
Schools, shops and offices here remain open, though hand-washing stations have been set up at the entrances to public places. Teams play soccer on the field beside the town’s government offices every evening. No one in the town wears a mask.

https://archive.is/yYbLF

A Mother’s Crusade to Rid South Africa of African Immigrants

On a Saturday in May, Ms. Khoza joined a group of about 50 people who marched down a residential street near her neighborhood. Their goal was to raid a home they said had been overrun by illegal Congolese immigrants.
The mob used bolt cutters to break through the driveway gate. They banged on the doors and jostled the burglar bars on the windows. The house was dark and seemed empty.
A few minutes later, the mob breached the front door. Teary-eyed children emerged from a dark corridor, hustling out of the house, shivering.
“We are sorry,” some of them squealed.
Their mother, Sandra, an immigrant from the Democratic Republic of Congo, shuffled out in shock as she cradled her youngest child in a blanket, a two-week-old baby. Tall with her hair braided in cornrows, Sandra’s eyes welled with tears as she confronted the angry crowd.

Ms. Khoza has been watching with envy clips of U.S. immigration agents raiding American streets to capture and deport illegal immigrants under the Trump administration.
“The government here should be doing exactly what Trump is doing,” she said, “so that South Africa can have order and South Africans are put first.”
Ms. Khoza said the defense of her own children went hand-in-hand with her effort to rid South Africa of immigrants. Last year, she explained to her eldest daughter, Owethu, that foreign nationals were taking over their country.
“I am a victim,” Owethu, 17, said in an interview, adding that she sees her mother and others like her as being on a noble pursuit.

https://archive.is/TrUMO

>>2880399
The Afrikaners Trump is filling my neighborhood with would probably like to see Ms Khosa tossed out of "their country" along with all the rest.

>>2880406
i'm surprised afrikaners and zionists haven't found a way to embed themselves in these anti-immigrant protests (as far as i know)



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The most evil company in the world is up to something sinister… Again…

What could they possibly be up to? Why does Google need to fold proteins? Why did Google want to release a middle eastern super disease inside countless mosquitos in all western countries when mosquitos are known to kill the most humans globally out of all diseases?

They solved protein folding because they realized they could easily do it with AI. They are now disbanding the team that did it because the problem is now solved. Hope this helps.

>>2880411
>Why did Google want to release a middle eastern super disease inside countless mosquitos in all western countries when mosquitos are known to kill the most humans globally out of all diseases?
elaborate on the mosquitos thing

>>2880820
Anyone?

>>2881054
They're probably schizoposting about gene drives:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_drive

Basically, we know how we could eradicate all disease causing mosquitos. Eggheads are debating whether it's a good idea. Possibility for unintended consequences is high.



 

What’s the point of knowing leftist theory or political philosophy when we can simply base our politics on the notion of radical empathy?

Theory and philosophy are worthless and meaningless but empathy is something anyone can understand. It’s elitist as fuck to base your political aspirations on some grand abstract ideals since this ultimately creates hierarchies of intelligence because not everyone can grasp it. Yet empathy is a universal concept. Every political goal we seek has no reason to be done in the name of “Marxism” or “anarchism” but simply out of empathy, collective care for the weakest and most vulnerable of our world. It is only a politics of vulnerability that can ever be truly inclusive.

Instead of looking to establish some grand utopia, our politics need to be based on being trauma-informed. Trump, Epstein, covid and Palestine all gave us collective CPTSD. Radical leftist politics should be primarily concerned with HEALING. Likewise, we have now become aware of the purely eugenicist nature of capitalism. The only way to stop and prevent eugenics is through empathy, not through some grand theory like Marxism.

Literally everyone is complaining about the lack of empathy and support in the world today. It should be our primary job to bring empathy back so that the most vulnerable and marginalized identities are allowed full human dignity and the right to be their authentic selves without fear of eradication. Your bullshit Marxist philosophy can’t accomplish that.
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>>2881051
Hegelians believe in love? News to me.

>>2881063
You don’t need complex abstract “solutions.” Just base institutions on the principles of community care. Make care work the dominant industry in society and let the robots do all the manufacturing.

>>2881070
That’s retarded.

I find it telling how the American left is such a shut show that it’s willing to throw away philosophy and economics in favour of TikTok pop psychology.

>>2880999
>What’s the point of knowing leftist theory or political philosophy when we can simply base our politics on the notion of radical empathy?
Because "radical empathy" is bullshit, and saying "capitalism is mean and causes me trauma" isn't a scientific understanding.



 

the combined share of global gdp by the US and EU fell by almost half since 2005 and continues to decline
Many relatively underdeveloped thirdie nations are taking an increasingly dominant positions in the global economy and trade and continue to rise, While former juggernauts like the UK and Japan are stagnating, Less western-subjugated governments popping up everywhere, Even in Africa many impoverished nations will be solidly middle income in a generation if their current economic growth rate continues into the future, Less warfare than before on the continet in general.

The global north watching their importance in the world stage diminish and ability to control other more impoverished nations……How do you think their governemnts are going to react?

More nakedly imperialistic and unjustifiably aggressive policies?
Are such reasons tied to some recent US actions e.g. Iran and Venezuela?
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The IMF, World Bank and BRI are digging the grave of capitalism by developping the south. Soon we won't have anywhere to put the sweatshops

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>>2880558
>Third-worldists so obsessed with le imperialism they've forgotten how capitalism even works

>>2880558
Sweatshops are a skill issue for poorfag countries and not an inherent nature of capitalism. The entire world can become developed first world and capitalism can still survive. You can run the Japan playbook forever.

will there be less immigrants and third world brain drain if global south becomes first world?
I guess right wingers would celebrate.

>>2880463
How can these countries improve if civilization is collapsing? Resource depletion? Failing fisheries? Soil erosion? Climate change? Anyone?



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I think I finally know Trumps ideology and its called Neo-Bonapartism

Bonapartism describes a state that achieves relative autonomy from any single class by claiming to stand above class conflict entirely ruling personalistically through plebiscitary mass appeal and charismatic authority rather than through a party program or a coherent class coalition, while materially serving capital's interests without capital directly controlling the state apparatus. Bonaparte's actual regime combined: personalist rule bypassing parliamentary/institutional mediation, appeals to a cross-class "people" against both organized labor and the traditional elite, military prestige projects and adventurism as legitimation (the whole Second Empire foreign policy pattern), and state-directed economic development (Haussmann's Paris, railway financing) alongside crushing independent labor organization. That's close to a checklist match for Trump: personalist rule, state economic direction, military/security emphasis as legitimating spectacle, hostility to organized labor and the left, appeal over the heads of institutions to a plebiscitary mass base.

Bonapartism in the Marxist tradition is specifically theorized as arising when class conflict reaches a stalemate where no single class can rule directly, so an autonomous executive arbitrates from above, critically, without needing to make durable concessions to labor the way a genuinely hegemonic class-coalition government would. Gramsci's extension of the concept (he uses “Caesarism” interchangeably) is explicitly about a strong personalist arbiter stepping in during a legitimacy crisis of the ordinary political process, offering national/military grandeur and personal charisma as substitutes for programmatic concession. That's the theoretical explanation for exactly why Trumpism is anti social welfare while pro military spending Bonapartist/Caesarist rule doesn't need to buy off labor, because it's explicitly a crisis arbitration form that draws its legitimacy from personal charisma and national mythology rather than from a stable coalition requiring material payoffs.

So: Bonapartism (Marx's term) or Caesarism (Gramsci's near-synonym) is the actual name for 19th-century style personalist strongman, holistic state-directed military-industrial policy, minimal welfare concession, legitimated by charisma and national grandeur rather than institution-building or class-coalition bargaining. Specifically it explPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>ideology
Didn't read a word past that

>>2863937
he's just a fat pedophile landlord grifter ripping copper out of the burger reich's walls

>>2863937
Trump is a conservative liberal, nothing more

You forgot the class dimension of the lumpenproletariat (1852):
<This Bonaparte, who constitutes himself chief of the lumpenproletariat, who here alone rediscovers in mass form the interests which he personally pursues, who recognizes in this scum, offal, refuse of all classes the only class upon which he can base himself unconditionally, is the real Bonaparte, the Bonaparte sans phrase.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1852/18th-brumaire/ch05.htm

>>2863937
>materially serving capital's interests without capital directly controlling the state apparatus

trump's government is a subset of USA capitalists controlling the state as directly as can be (the coalition of big finance and big tech), it doesnt have any autonomy or entity of his own. It also cant be an example of state economic direction, or at least not to any relevant extent. The mass base is just about lost now, his only support is the bourguie coalition i mentioned and its foreign allies.



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