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>>2631790
>commanders to Turkey
that's demonstrably untrue. first, there's no list of commanders published by ukraine. because ukraine can play dumb with who was captured, in fact, pravda published this article last year arguing exactly that:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/05/29/7514554/
>Commenting on public statements about the absence of Azov fighters in the latest exchange lists, Yusov emphasised that excessive media attention to specific names or units could be used by Russian intelligence services for their own purposes
so there's no reason or whatsoever to believe all of the commanders were released.
that article also stated, in the lastest exchange:
<Colonel Denys Prokopenko, alias Redis, Commander of the Azov National Guard Brigade, stated that not a single Azov fighter had been included in the three-day prisoner exchange with Russia. He said he does not believe the Ukrainian authorities are interested in bringing them back.

you are a moron. and for that champsoc is right: >>2631793

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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/8/ukraines-zelenskyy-returns-azov-commanders-released-to-turkey

Russia denounces the soldiers’ return, accusing Kyiv and Ankara of violating a prisoner exchange deal under which the men were to remain in Turkey until the end of the war.

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>>2634166 (meme)

>Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Saturday that Ankara had promised under the exchange agreement to keep the men in Turkey and complained that Moscow had not been informed of the move.



 

This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

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>Paul Cockshott

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>>2583286
Unfortunately this is the exact analysis used by John Birch Society to call Eisenhower a communist. The same shit today with Alex Jones calling the WEF socialist etc. The implications are the the Fabians are correct and the billionaires are secret commies is not new analysis. It's almost bait at this point.

>>2583306
didn't finish reading the png award

>>2631320
that analysis is not being used to argue that billionaires are secret communists, that analysis is being used to argue that porkies are suicidal nihilists and not interested in the preservation even of their own class, let alone the earth, the species, etc.

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he could address the critiques of his model by hanhnel and also of the LTV by steve keen in greater detail

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>>2631530
1. Maybe we should do this? Maybe the torch has been passed.

2. Man's 74. My grandparents were useless or dead by that age. Maybe he's just not cut out for this stuff anymore? Let him bicker with zionists on twitter.



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<Republic of Cuba
<Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
<People’s Republic of China
<Lao People’s Democratic Republic
<Socialist Republic of Vietnam
<Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela

Rest of the world is ruled by bourgeoisie and personal opinions and political positions are up to debate but not these countries. Dictatorship of the proletariat means that these countries are ruled by the proletariat and their representatives.
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leftcoms malding

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>>2603392
this thread aged like milk lol

>>2562383
>Uncritical support

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>When your time-wasting shitpost spam exposes you on the first WORD: the thread
You are not a Marxist.



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Hi comrades, I know how to program and have created resource websites.

What would be a useful online resource?
There are already plenty of good ones, like marxists.org and annas-archive for /lit/, leftybooru for meme cataloguing, kolektiva.media/tankie.tube for video hosting, disroot and riseup for email and other services, but what is something else that would just make organisation, education and agitation more efficient for you?
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>>2630985
We did, it's called /itg/

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>>2630649
Willing to work on a project for this, but how do we do it

>>2630649
Mods, ban this one

>>2632079
For what possible reason would this be bannable? You are so afraid of actual productive organization, you want to silence any talk of anything beyond mindless slop scrolling and discussion?

>>2631129
>/itg/
Can you tell me more?



 

The Palestine movement failed miserably to stop the genocide because the movement is largely one of SYMBOLIC politics, not one of instrumental politics. It’s not about the Palestinian people but about angry western youth letting off steam. This exact BDS movement has become about self-righteous zoomers showing off how “virtuous” they are by boycotting Starbucks and Coke, never mind that boycotts are supposed to be a militant tactic and weapon to attack an enemy head-on. The campus protests from 2024 were also aimless and did nothing except get a bunch of students and professional activists arrested. Makes sense that NYU banned criticism of Zionism right afterwards.

Let this be known for the next time the world is thrown into a state of crisis.
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>>2625221
Pebbles thrown into rushing river

>>2625236
The global arms trade is extremely specialised and interdependent. Most important harbors in Europe have divested from Israeli arms at this point, there are now equipment parts that Israel can simply not get anymore which means important war machines like F16s can not be build.

Obviously genocide still comences and the US happily carries on supplying weapons but this does show a viable path of resistance and Israel doesn't like that these things are happening

Question: if the Iranian government falls, does this mean the Palestinian struggle is de facto dead?

Marx was right, nationalism has to go

>>2632069
But national liberation?



 

"Not guilty, moisturized, in my lane" edition

#01 https://archive.ph/4Dq3L
#02 https://archive.ph/sntTt
#03 https://archive.ph/AoX8t
#04 https://archive.ph/mHlP7
#05 https://archive.ph/NEiRq
#06 https://archive.ph/bWfbJ
#07 NEVER EXISTED?
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#09 https://archive.ph/iarMN Senior Numba Nine 03-01-26 13:34:18
#09 https://archive.ph/P84hH Junior Numba Nine 03-01-26 19:13:34
#10 https://archive.ph/kh1wf
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>>2630437
Is Australia actually getting closer to China? Thought they were locking into the Sinophobia and insisting on being outside Asia

You know what to do.

>>2630952
Yeah there’s no industrialist left in the U.S. every porky wants do usury, renting, and land speculation. Especially now with the tariffs and free money being pumped into the stock market. The trump regime would have to at bare minimum turn off the free money spigot before chevron or Exxon considered investing in new refineries instead of making a stupid app or sitting on real estate.

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how neat we have our own pet glowie spamming our threads with US propaganda

>>2631155
"only israeli intervention"
kek what this would be like? israel annexes iran over a 3000 year old book?



 

How exactly do we successfully fight against and reverse Gen Alpha brainrot?

https://youtube.com/shorts/h2i3cGyzNKo

This stuff is becoming alarming. When I was a little kid in the 90s I would watch stuff that had actual substance to it (think: Disney renaissance, Don Bluth films, TV shows like Arthur). Plus our parents made an effort to read to us and get us looking at science books and history books for kids. When I babysit my neighbours’ kids who are eight and six (both boys) I’m horrified by how stupid they are. They can’t read at all. They can’t play musical instruments. They don’t do arts and crafts. They have the vocabularies of preschool-aged kids. They can’t do math and the eight-year old asks me to do his math homework for him. Both of them are either glued to their iPads or glued to watching YouTube on TV. It’s sad as hell. What do?
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>>2631202
What does my question have to do with philosophy?

>>2631259
youre abstracting two completely different concrete actions into meaninglessness

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>>2631190
Reading stimulates the mind.

Sports stimulate the body.

iPad addiction does neither. Especially if the iPad is used for playing mindless games like Roblox.

by banning commercialization of behavior and attention via social media banning data and bandwidth monopolization, copyright for software, the idea of buying more bandwidth this is popular right now due all the AI outrage. the fact that this thread is 90% anti children shit just shows how worthless you are all are fuck all of you.
just be a better parent yeah ok and you cant even be a parent.

>>2626768
They will be disciplined in workplace.



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Are there any reactionary or non communist figures that you kinda support respect or like? And not the I like them because they are a meme or because they sabotaged themselves and their movement. Im talking more so about genuine respect towards them but still disagreeing with most of their policies. It doesnt have to be full like either just some degree of respect.
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I like to watch the plane going in
I like to watch the flames shooting out

also Qin Shi Huang

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Robespierre ran headfirst into the ideological limits of liberalism. Louis Antoine de Saint-just penned the revolutionary constitution of 1793 and enshrined the right of the individual to exist despite much resistance. Georges Couthon because he crippled himself fucking too much and ordered churches destroy to be used as building materials for housing. None of these men would like communism, but they damn well tried to make liberalism live up to its principles, even concluding the rich would betray their revolution, and defending the Haitian revolution where their compatriots did not.

>>2631874
So robespierre was a zealot who got used by the bourgeois?

>>2631878
yeah, there's a growing consensus that he got hung out to dry by the rest of the government and part of that was that the other bourgeois thought he was annoying and also couldn't trust him because he actually wasn't corrupt which in that day and age whichever side you were on was outright freakish.



 

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What has been the Australian response to the abduction of Maduro?

>>2630503
it's fucking lame, protests are still banned because of bondi, fucking pissed off with albo for fascist appeasement all the way thru gaza and now this.

>>2630503
Asking for a "democratic transition" and arresting a few protesters.

>>2630503
Most people I know are generally anti-america but it's mostly like, "Well, we already knew they were evil… par for the course." Truthfully, aside from agitating against AUKUS, there's not much to be done. Invasion day and the repercussions of bondi are more pressing issues over here.

PLACE YOUR BETS
>attendance
>arrest count
>[ ] labor member arrested under labor's law
>[ ] anti-zionist jew assaulted by police (only counts if reported in a news article, or if wearing religious clothing)
>[ ] kettle
>[ ] chemical weapons
>[ ] less-lethal grenades
>[ ] less-lethal bullets
>[ ] spew pavlova (or other zionist) gets arrested
>[ ] lolbert cooker shows up to support because muh free speech
>[ ] SAlt fuck everyone over
>[ ] Smashies/agent provocs fuck everyone over
>[ ] else?

(Sydney, Town Hall)



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SHOKË ENVER HOXHA GENERAL
I feel like the legendary bunker man is severely under represented in leftypol. I'm pretty sure there was must be a few Hoxhaists here. While I do not know much about Comrade Enver, the little I have read of him is very interesting. For example, his criticism of China and eclecticisms like blending religion and communism (islamic communism e.g).
Let this be a warm bunker for learning and discussing about the Mountain of Tirana.
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>>2631743
Not Belarus, thoughbeit.

>>2631754
>the point of collapse of the soviet regimes)
privatisation (looting), massive scams, mafias, drugs, prostitution, millions dead?

>>2631746
Ramiz Alia ended up privatizing the economy akin to perestroika/opening up which just nuked their economy as they couldn't secure any investment from western corporations and western powers would not revoke the sanctions on Albania after those reforms were made this also ended up creating a massive black market which ended up empowering the mafia in the region (it wouldn't help that their version of shock therapy was planned by their mafia guys who essentially turned the economy into a Ponzi scheme)

>>2631743
Putin wasn't a mafia lord though

>>2631535
Enlighten us, Shok



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