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There is an unspoken agreement between US and Iran to maintain the delicate balance of power in the region.

Losing Islamist Iran period means losing Iraq to a power vacuum.

Losing Islamist Iran to communists is doomsday scenario for capitalists, the resource rich region is filled with unpopular regimes and immiserated workers. Iran and Iraq (the most susceptible for revolution) alone make up a quarter of the world oil supply. The stakes are too high to allow an unpredictable mass movement (that cannot be entirely controlled) to overthrow the regime.

Iran poses zero threat to western imperialism, in fact in places like Iraq and Lebanon it is the lever that is maintaining it. Decades of wheeling and dealing through backchannels have exposed this myth for what it is - a false dichotomy that sets the ideological framework for US and Iranian imperialism in the region, so-called "Axis of Resistance" and "Forces of Order"

Does this mean they're in agreement on everything and Iran is secretly run by da juice? Of course not, that's conspiratorial and Kautskyist nonsense. They're united in so far as their class interests meet, mostly in suppressing workers and maintaining the status quo.

Will this last forever? No, eventually a war will break out due to capital's growing contradictions and the need to counter overproduction through destruction. The region and the world broadly have yet to fall into designated camps for such event to happen, that will spark the a third global imperialist war.

Don't fall into this false dichotomy, or prepare to be disappointed. Learn from the communist parties in the region who have reached this conclusion.

No war but class war
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>>2684610
This meme was approved by Allah (the OG libertarian)

>>2684571
I'm a Muslim and I never read any mention of capitalism in the Quran. However, Islamists mostly backed by gulf money, invented le Islamic economics less than a century ago and it is condemned as liberalism by every non-state sponsored Muslim economist and Imam.

You seem to be confused

>>2684618
Wrong. Islam forbids exploitation. Iran is a revolutionary Islamic People's Democratic Dictatorship. That is why working peoples support Iran Revolution and imperialist speak ill of it


bvmp



 

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>>2699745
>>2699783

eh, at least they accept that 'Lenin testament' is most likely a forgery.

>>2699745
Speaking as an MIA volunteer, you really can't accuse the organization of being owned / run / dominated by Trotskyists at this point in time. They sort of were back in the site's glory days of 1998-2003ish, when a lot of the front-facing editorial content was drawn up; there was never a partisan commitment to Trotskyism, but a majority of volunteers were Trotskyists (or more often ex-Trotskyists; refugees from collapsed Trot parties like Gerry Healy's WRP played an outsize role), and the collective did not object to editorial content denigrating "Stalin and Mao" specifically.

Nowadays tho, I can say that there are several seemingly Marxist-Leninist volunteers active, and everyone, even the professed Trotskyists, tend to treat Soviet-model states with a less judgmental stance in new editorial content. I can't say anything more specific than that because there isn't much in the way of a collective editorial policy at all these days: everyone tends to their own little private plot of webpages, while the Steering Committee email list stays silent for weeks at a time.

>>2699880
and the circus sucks ass

>>2699819
>Catholikkk calling others 'nonsocal idealists'
You are dim



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I keep hearing the claim that "communism destroys culture," but every time I look into the culture that communism supposedly destroyed, it was either
a) That countries most reactionary religious institutions
and/or
b) Some shit like "Flay a Gypsy Day"

The closest thing to it that I'm aware of was the Cultural Revolution when the Red Guards started going full ISIS mode and smashed up some historical artifacts, but even then they were hardly trying to end Chinese culture. Once again, if people say that communism "destroyed Chinese culture" they typically mean shit like ending the influence of Confucianism or shit like foot binding.

Are there any examples of Communists actually destroying a nation's culture?
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>>2699861
>loves animals
>hates actual humans and wants to genocide them
…was hitler a liberal

>muh culture
its always the petit bourgeois having endless debates about ideology. why the fuck do you think communists use the term "culture war" derogatorily? hint: its in the first word!!

>>2699861
>>2699873
no wonder redditors performatively love heccin pupperinos so much but will not even flinch whenever humans suffer

The biggest cultural revolution is the us pushing its culture in the world.
Now thsts being undone cause everyone thinks murica is lame.

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>>2699736
It isn't the job of communists to defend traditions and culture, quite the opposite in fact. Avanti barbari, and all that.

Exactly why so many so-called communists believe that preserving half-dead, forgotten cultures is a goal for the labour movement is absolutely incomprehensible to me. As if you can just will a culture into existence, or insist that it survive.

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>>2699736
They're talking about things like fancy ritual pagenty, as if they've existed unchanged for 2000 years. But they just make this shit up as they go along.



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Rubio has made a declaration of war.

North America, Western Europe, South Korea and Japan, and Oceania. The Western empire. The NATO bloc. The triad.

The enemy is on a path to genocide The Americas, Africa and Asia, and all its peoples unless their leaders do not submit towards this new hyper-imperialist order, this return to formal colonies of an official colonies, as neo-colonialism and 21st century imperialism weaken with the decline of empire and usurping of multipolarity.

“The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters.” - Gramsci

Relevant videos:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QNnDWfTD3ds (Speech)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mWRy7A1cJI (GPER)

Relevant articles:
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/western-revival-or-colonial-reboot-rubios-munich-doctrine-exposed/
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>>2698592
>>2699608
What's funny is they put South Korea, a first-world partner of American imperialism, in the Global South category, but countries like Serbia and Bosnia in the Global North.

>>2698576
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Eastern Europe is just the gates of the west and benefit from imperialist oppression too
In fact, far right hellholes like Czech Republic, Hungsry and Poland act and the armed branch of fortress europe, shooting, beating, humilliating and evicting the brown oppressed masses of the global south

Vikor Orban himself said Hungary is bulward of evropa again keeping those brown people away

>>2699687
>Serbia and Bosnia
Both are part of the global north too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMx6AZmxNqM

Ursula is smiling from cheek to cheek 😭

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>>2699687
lmfao??? I'm willing to bet S.Korea is further right and more pro-US than Japan is on average.
And I love the NPA as much as the next guy but lets not pretend anything about what kind of work they have ahead of them.
I mean, this author basically sees China as the vanguard of the global south, the model for the rest of humanity, and yet says most Filipinos are aligned with this movement??? Are you on the same planet as the rest of us???



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We can't just demand the number one now! We need incremental progress first! And look, it's close to the number one than any previous time in history! We're getting there soon!
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>>2697583
you hear what op said far more often from commonplace liberals but its pretty funny how disconnected from reality you are that your first thought is leftypol beefs

>>2697588
but arent dengoids and MLoids kind of libbed out too? whats the difference?

>>2697430
>Seems like he was wrong then.
This. So much this

>>2697252
>>2697272
>>2697274

let's read them:


>To my mind, the so-called “socialist society” is not anything immutable. Like all other social formations, it should be conceived in a state of constant flux and change. Its crucial difference from the present order consists naturally in production organized on the basis of common ownership by the nation of all means of production. To begin this reorganization tomorrow, but performing it gradually, seems to me quite feasible. That our workers are capable of it is borne out by their many producer and consumer cooperatives which, whenever they're not deliberately ruined by the police, are equally well and far more honestly run than the bourgeois stock companies.


<Engels, Letter to Otto Von Boenigk In Breslau, August 21, 1890


>Will it be possible for private property to be abolished at one stroke? No, no more than existing forces of production can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society. In all probability, the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity.


<Friedrich Engels, Principles of Communism, 1847


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>>2698192
>>2697252
You are forgetting that it is mandatory to build forces within a working-class party independent of the bourgeoisie, and the reforms must be radical to intensify the class struggle and not to create complacency. This means that all pensions must be removed from the private sector to be under the control of the workers, outside of profit, as a public right; all costs must be transferred to the capitalists; and any indirect tax on workers' consumption must be abolished.

First, I will state the Marxist position on how to act in an election in bourgeois democracy:

<Complete abstention from political action is impossible. The abstentionist press participates in politics every day. It is only a question of how one does it, and of what politics one engages in. For the rest, to us abstention is impossible. The working-class party functions as a political party in most countries by now, and it is not for us to ruin it by preaching abstention. Living experience, the political oppression of the existing governments compels the workers to occupy themselves with politics whether they like it or not, be it for political or for social goals. To preach abstention to them is to throw them into the embrace of bourgeois politics. The morning after the Paris Commune, which has made proletarian political action an order of the day, abstention is entirely out of the question.

<We want the abolition of classes. What is the means of achieving it? The only means is political domination of the proletariat. For all this, now that it is acknowledged by one and all, we are told not to meddle with politics. The abstentionists say they are revolutionaries, even revolutionaries par excellence. Yet revolution is a supreme political act and those who want revolution must also want the means of achieving it, that is, political action, which prepares the ground for revolution and provides the workers with the revolutionary training without which they are sure to become the dupes of the Favres and Pyats the morning after the battle. However, our politics must be working-class politics. The workers' party must never be the tagtail of any bourgeois party; it must be independent and have Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



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A thread for the forgotten continent, so forgotten the thread got wiped.
Discuss anything related to:
>Algeria
>Angola
>Benin
>Botswana
>Burkina Faso
>Burundi
>Cabo Verde
>Cameroon
>Central African Republic (CAR)
>Chad
>Comoros
>Congo, Democratic Republic of the
>Congo, Republic of the
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The Israelis are moving on Kenya too.

https://x.com/Trackmann2/status/2022743333433675891

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>>2692508
Everyone knows what happens when you give a Zio a cookie.

>>2692508
they are coming to practice apartheid

>>2692508
Not surprising

In an extraordinary move, MFA to return prized African art to wealthy donor and close gallery

The museum had sought to transfer ownership of the historic bronzes, originally plundered in a bloody colonial raid on the Benin Kingdom, to their land of origin. The donor asked for their return instead.

https://archive.is/xTuzz#selection-1302.0-1302.1



 

>>"Prostitution is the outlet of too many bourgeois. One turns the son of the poor man into a slave and his daughter into a courtesan. The exploiter class asks for your sons to degrade them, Your daughters to rape them, you and your wives to exploit you. Watch out Parisians. Long Live Anarchy! Long live the commune!"

Albert Libertad, 1898
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>>2698033
Liberal pol is that way→

The prostitute question is a great filter for communists and bourgeois thought social liberal that still want to rape women


>>2698039
There is no evidence of asexual people.
Those that do avoid sex is usually because of trauma.




 

This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators sorted by last name

>Paul Cockshott

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>>2689262
I also got gemini pro and it told me fir demand forecasting the best method is called gradient boosted trees. Theres also sentiment analysis with ai to know what people want(like an ai that crawls for news) however in my opinion that part could be done via referendum.

>>2689268
"Sentiment analysis" is such an over-the-top name for the concept. Really old idea.

You put labels on words like "positive emotion" and "negative emotion" (or whatever sentiment categories you come up with) and then the "analyzing" part is you run texts through a computer to count the occurrences.

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>>2689268
it just gave me some code for potatoe demand forecast
#install these
#pip install xgboost pandas numpy scikit-learn

import pandas as pd
import numpy as np
import xgboost as xgb
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
from sklearn.metrics import mean_squared_error
import warnings

# Suppress warnings for cleaner output
warnings.filterwarnings('ignore')

# ==========================================
# 1. THE SIMULATION (The Potato Market)
# ==========================================
def generate_potato_data(days=730):
    """
    Simulates 2 years of daily potato demand.
    Unlike electricity (hourly), food is daily/weekly.
    Factors:
    - Price Elasticity (Price goes up, demand goes down)
    - Weekly Cycle (People buy groceries on weekends)
    - Seasonal/Holiday Spikes (Thanksgiving, Christmas)
    """
    np.random.seed(42)
    dates = pd.date_range(start='2023-01-01', periods=days, freq='D')
    n = len(dates)

    # Factor A: Market Price (Fluctuates randomly)
    # Simulating a price between $0.50 and $1.50 per kg
    price = 1.0 + np.random.normal(0, 0.1, n).cumsum() * 0.05
    price = np.clip(price, 0.5, 2.0)

    # Factor B: Seasonality (Potatoes are winter food)
    # Cosine wave: High in winter, Low in summer
    seasonality = 1000 * np.cos(np.linspace(0, 2 * 2 * np.pi, n))

    # Factor C: The "Weekend Grocery Run"
    # Demand spikes on Saturday (5) and Sunday (6)
    day_of_week = dates.dayofweek
    weekend_bump = np.where(day_of_week >= 5, 2000, 0)

    # Factor D: The "Holiday Spike" (Thanksgiving/Christmas)
    # Nov (11) and Dec (12) get a massive boost
    month = dates.month
    holiday_bump = np.where((month == 11) | (month == 12), 3000, 0)

    # TOTAL DEMAND CALCULATION
    # Base Demand (10,000 kg) - Price Sensitivity + Seasons + Weekends + Holidays + Noise
    demand = (
        10000
        - (price * 2000)             # Price Elasticity (High price = Low demand)
        + seasonality
        + weekend_bump
        + holiday_bump
        + np.random.normal(0, 500, n) # Random noise
    )

    df = pd.DataFrame({
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>>2689809
looks kind of useless since you already know what the underlying behavior is. a sinusodial model would be enough

Somebody asked on 4chan the other day whether communist could prove they could do superior planning by proving they could complete a public project on time.
That got me wondering. There is talk about how cybernetic planning could forecast demand. However there is no talk about public projects.
How could the state forecast sonething like how long itd take the chipfab being built in the us for example?



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If i were in the us and broke id go to the local communist chapter and just get a red card. Fuck that shit.
>but idk what to do
Just sit down a listen you dont even have to think.

>if i were to lose my petit bourgeois position and join the proletariat id go to the most advanced section of the proletariat
ok duhhhhhhhh??



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>gives Israel all of Syria's positions in case Assad gets toppled
>lifts its airspace for Israeli air force in Syria
>tries to use Iran situation to achieve its own ends
>distances itself from Hamas after Oct. 7th
>supported the war on terror
This is why I'm not rootin for Putin.
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>>2698783
even if palestinians gave half their country away voluntarily it would have changed nothing, things would have played out the same way:
1. occupation of negev mirrors the way jews were settled in europe (pale of settlement) by russian empire with europeans being resettled to far east (gaza strip in palestinian case) and jews were settled into their homes
it is not a new experience, it's already an established pattern
2. with the leverage the jews have on the world hegemon (actually both of them in case the other one won the cold war) they would have found an excuse their invasive actions in the levant either way

the only way to prevent zionist wars was to settle jews on an island somewhere remote like madagascar
poles are proven right yet again

>>2699079
Have pity on native Madagascar people.

>>2699079
Indians love Israelis. Israel should have been located in India.



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