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These fags want to remove the age of consent laws and normalize pedophilia
They think Trump will do that by making people ignore his involvement in child abuse
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>>2838501
Do you have any articles about the arizona police?

>>2397979

Low tier epstein drone.

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overthrow the US government already you fat fucks im getting bored and my life is progressively getting worst in every aspect because the economy is collapsing
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I have a feeling Hegseth has the potential to become a Coriolanus. He already has the psychological traits and motivations. A commander who starts out fiercely loyal to his homeland, but through war comes to admire aspects of the enemy while growing disillusioned with his own state's political leadership and civilian society as decadent, and ungrateful. All it would take is for him to be cast aside by his own side and offered a place by the enemy and you'd have a classic Coriolanus.

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>>2878037
Trvth the problem with that doe is that to becime a coriolaus it requires at the very least to somewhat win a war. The USA is clearly losing against iran

>>2859518
>read All these people who haven’t overthrown a government let alone an American one
Ok dude… read Lenin

>>2859296
It takes time retard literal decades for the material conditions to be ripe for an overthrow of the bourgeois



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Заранее известных победителей эдишн.

KEEP THE PRO-WAR CIRCLEJERK TO /ukr/ AND FUCK OFF

QOTT:
>пойдёшь голосовать?
>будет ли движуха под выборы?
>какие есть варианты менять ситуацию к лучшему, когда участие в выборном фарсе ничего не даст?
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>Take a look at this island. Today, it's just a remote patch of land in the middle of a river in Siberia. But in 1933, thousands of people were transported here by the Soviet government. Many of them had committed no serious crime. Some had simply been picked up for not having the correct documents. What followed would be so horrifying that Soviet officials themselves would struggle to explain how it was allowed to happen. Although the events in this video are fleeting and non-descriptive, they are still highly disturbing, so viewer discretion is strongly advised. historical look at nazino island

>>2905858
>Shit no uygha cares about

>>2901499
>>2898228
>>2897994
Thank you for explaining.

>>2903872
Russian youth following the steps of the CPSU



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Only 7 of 15 Regime Supply Vessels Reach Embattled Bhamo
The flotilla, consisting of tugboats and gunboats, departed Mandalay for Bhamo via the Irrawaddy River on August 21. To clear a path in advance, regime fighter jets and Y-12 aircraft indiscriminately bombed resistance-controlled areas along the river route in Sagaing Region’s Katha Township and adjacent Shwegu Township in Kachin. Despite the destruction of civilian houses, there were only a few reports of casualties, as residents along the route were warned by the Kachin Independence Army (KIA) and allied resistance groups to evacuate the areas in advance.
https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/war-against-the-junta/only-7-of-15-regime-supply-vessels-reach-embattled-bhamo.html

Philippine VP Duterte posts bail after arrest order for alleged grave threats
"If I post bail, the harassment won’t stop. If I don’t post bail, I’ll be taken ​to the police. I have no trust in the police, I have no trust in the courts. ​I do not feel safe at all," Duterte said. She asked who would be held accountable “if I die tonight,” saying police ‌would ⁠simply “wash their hands and call it an accident.”
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/philippine-vp-duterte-posts-bail-after-arrest-order-alleged-grave-threats-2026-09-05/

Greeks promised tax relief, wage hikes as protesters take to the streets over cost of living crunch
Labor unions and multiple protest groups staged rallies across the city, with farmers driving tractors into the downtown area. More than 3,000 police officers were on duty, closing streets and subway stations near the venue where the prime minister spoke. Greece delivered a budget surplus and economic growth of 2.1% last year, while continuing to reduce its high public debt, but its workers had the lowest purchasing power in the European Union.
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Pentagon Launched ‘Unprecedented’ Polygraph Spree After Leaks Revealed Disastrous Truth About Iran War: NYT
The polygraph campaign “appeared aimed at not just ferreting out anyone who may have shared information, but intimidating others who might do so in the future,” the Times reported. The Times reported that the hunt for leakers has “intensified an atmosphere of deep distrust and paranoia inside the Pentagon” under the leadership of Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who has purged multiple top military officials during his tenure leading the department.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/pentagon-polygraph-campaign-leaks

‘Too lazy to do the job’: Democrats dump on Fetterman after WSJ report
The Journal’s story recounted multiple instances of Fetterman refusing to meet with constituents in Washington, even for scheduled meetings. In one case, he canceled on three paralyzed military veterans in his office, telling his staff that he was feeling unwell. But Fetterman came into the office shortly thereafter to prepare for a live hit with Fox News.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/09/04/fetterman-wsj-democrats-criticize
https://archive.ph/dVSfW

Trump taps massive war chest to help embattled Paxton in Texas
Republicans have been eager to see Trump deploy his $400 million war chest in the party's fight to maintain its congressional majorities. "I'm going to spend whatever amount of money necessary to try and help us," Trump said at the White House Friday.
https://www.axios.com/2026/09/05/trump-magainc-paxton-talarico-texas-senate
https://archive.ph/Na5Jp

Even in safe-haven Massachusetts, trans care is at risk. Young people are fighting to protect it
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DHS Facial Recognition Software Used Against Minnesota 15
Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) has deployed an aggressive facial recognition apparatus for monitoring and tracking domestic political dissidents, raising questions about why an agency created after 9/11 to fight the global war on terrorism is now maintaining centralized dossiers on ordinary American protesters. Four days after federal agents shot and killed Alex Pretti in Minneapolis during Operation Metro Surge, HSI began Operation Puppet Master, their undercover spying campaign that netted conspiracy charges against 15 people who allegedly took part in protesting against ICE. An HSI undercover agent, embedded inside the Signal group chat Whipple Watch, downloaded a selfie posted by Isaac Sant. The photo shows Sant’s face bruised from rubber bullets. The agent uploaded the selfie to Clearview AI’s facial recognition database that turned it into a dossier.
https://unicornriot.ninja/2026/dhs-facial-recognition-software-used-against-minnesota-15/

The Marxist approach to war
In his Philosophy of History, Hegel remarked that “it was not so much from slavery as through slavery that humanity was emancipated.” A similar thing could be said about war, which – for all its horrors and barbarities – has shaped the world in ways good as well as bad. History almost appears to us as an endless series of armed conflicts: wars of imperialist domination; wars of national defence and liberation; colonial and slave wars; and, of course, civil wars. It could be said that wars provide the second most important impulse for historical development, behind revolutions – although even then, many revolutions are the result of wars, or evolve into wars in the course of their unfolding. Unlike the teary-eyed pacifists, Marxists recognise that war is a natural outgrowth of class society. We understand that no serious transformation of society can take place without a pitched battle between the contending classes. Leninism, Leon Trotsky once remarked, is “warlike from head to foot”. And yet, at the same time, we maintain that war is a stamp of barbarism; a black mark on humanity’s record, and a blight on our species. War is rightly reviled and hated by workers and young people – as barbaric, violent, backwards, Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



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Like the only criticisms other marxists/leftists bring up about parties like the pcp is that gonzalo killed people, like who cares would the reprisals in the first world not be worse? like if some county/city were to start a counterrevolution after being docile under the bourgeoisie they're ALL dying
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it's all romantic and exciting until the revolutionaries run out of cops and soldiers to kill and they're drinking and still high on adrenaline and they decide to break down your door to steal every valuable thing you own and cave in your skull with a rifle butt and run a train on your wife.

>>2907342
>it must be used only when necessary, judiciously, and with discipline
Who defines what type of violence is "necessary?"

>>2907488
It's a strategic decision to be made according to the forms of organization that prove most effective in the course of class struggle.

>>2907258
>this was never my point
you did say exactly that when you defended Gonzalo

>>2907502
>It's a strategic decision
Made by who?
>according to the forms of organization that prove most effective in the course of class struggle
Which is generally what?



 

This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

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>Paul Cockshott

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new INDEP talk
>Talk by Boston College Labor-Time Economy Working Group – Simulating a Labor-Time Socialist Economy

>>2904051
Here is how to pronounce "Initiative demokratische Arbeitszeitrechnung":

Eeneetsyateeeewah
Daymocraaaahtisha
ArrrbytesTSYTE!reshnoong

>>2906098
thanks germanon. I think you can remove the s between Arrrbyte and TSYTE. having it there is a bit like pronouncing the t in hot potato

>>2878630
Such words being thrown around…
Failure…
Far better for society…
Admit you got tired resisting and just accepted porky ideology.

theme song for this thread



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I have, in the last week, gotten 3 people (1 liberal, 2 apolitical) to read ‘the principles of communism’ using common social strategies, to great success.

The hook:I have used 3 strategies to get people interested or obliged to read the pamphlet. The best tactic is the natural conversation, do something vaguely related to communism like reading communist literature or for me drawing historical figures like Engels. A person completely uninterested in politics can get trapped in a conversation on the very topic. The other method will admittedly probably lead to less of an impact and success, the dare. Bring up the pamphlet in conversation off handedly, “I was just reading principles of communism, it is a very simple essay that goes over basic communist ideas”, then do something for your mark you are usually unwilling to do and then say “because I did this you gotta read this”. Is it completely possible the mark won’t actually do it? Yes but if they agree you have their word and can use it as leverage later. The other dare tactic is using the fact you read the pamphlet as a flex, “I just read this, it was very interesting, I would send it to you but (in an joking way) I bet you wouldn’t read it”, this can push the mark to read it asap.

Finally the best strategy,
The use of the art of debate. You are trying to convince someone that doesn’t care for politics to read a political essay, this isn’t just a causal thing, you are challenging their way of life, use debate, actual successful debate I.E. agree with them when you can and understand their perspective as much as possible while pointing out contradictions in their logic “I get it, politics really do suck, but you know what a famous communist said “if you don’t effect politics, politics effects you”, this not only convinces the make but makes them think further about their beliefs and reading this pamphlet at such a pivotal point is great.

Other advice I would give:

  1. principles of communism will of course never give anyone the best understanding of communism but if you are gonna push someone to read a whole book a small essay is a good start and is extremely convenient.

  2. Many people without an understanding of communism laugh at it as they mostly know memes or the red scare version they were taught, use that, point out what they had wrong about communism and help them learn

  3. Connect reason communist lite
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I don’t wanna be dead or in jail and my neighbors and coworkers don’t deserve socialism anyway

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>>2907187
>I don’t wanna be dead or in jail and my neighbors and coworkers don’t deserve socialism anyway

OP is lying.

>>2907187
>moralism

Op is a giga



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What do you think of my political philosophy? I think it's pretty simple and also agreeable. I think there is general agreement at an international level and amongst international bodies like the UN.

Every human deserves the bare minimum of materials and energy necessary to life. That means before building super yachts for some humans we should focus on making every human has food, water, protection from the elements, etc. I think it is very achievable, a lot of people agree with me from their own studies from my understanding. If it is not currently achievable, it should be the foremost goal of mankind I should think.

Bait or developmentally challenged.
Call it.

>>2907455
>egoism
<Bait or developmentally challenged.




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The Far Left is the only political persuasion that insists on people reading and following the secular equivalent of holy texts (ie Kapital + whatever else that person considers essential) and adhering to strict pre-defined doctrine to be accepted as part of their movement. You will NEVER create any kind of mass movement that way. You people are the reason Mao even had to articulate the doctrine of the mass line - even if it should be so fucking obvious it shouldn't need to be said and even if Mao himself didn't necessarily follow it - because communists are notorious for devolving into elitism instead of actually being servants of the people (Lenin being the first one to actually succeed as a communist didn't help this whatsoever).

If you're not building a movement where someone who has never read a single line of Marx and never will can walk in and feel welcome anyway, you will not win without copying Lenin and just hijacking a popular movement that was not originally communist to begin with and imposing yourself (and if that's the attitude you come into politics with, you almost certainly do not have the interests of the masses in mind).
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>>2907293
this. for all of Marx' materialism, there's still oodles of metaphysics in Capital, such as the notion that commodities "embody" labour

>>2907273
You can insist it's not a barrier to entry all you want but since no other non-theocratic ideology insists on it, you're inherently setting yourself up to have narrower appeal and thus handicapping yourself for no reason other than to feel superior.

>>2907293
>You could grind up every machine in the world and not not find one atom of "horse-power"
this is his how you sound like btw

>>2907388
but anon, you can measure the amount of power a motor generates. whereas there is no way in general to measure how much labor or value that motor "embodies". you'd know this if you've read vol III, or if you've looked at the literature on joint production

Retards like you is why 'the pipo' should not be 'put in power'.



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How many of you are actual communists, and how many of you are just contrarian misanthropes who found the far-right too embarrassing?

If it’s the second, have you considered that working people don’t listen to you not because they’re inherently hostile to leftism or because they’re “treatlers,” but because your ideas betray your contempt? And that you’re actually a liability to socialism by getting people to associate it with neurotic contrarians?
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>>2906744
> Who is doing the enslavement? Why would an economy run for use and not profit of few individuals and without a state require slavery.
Your own needs and the needs of others in society, it’s a lesser form of slavery than to nature or to private property or money, but is still slavery in the end. As for free association I doubt we’ll ever get to the point where labor specialization isn’t required to maintain and produce the ever increasingly complex infrastructure and technology that makes everything so convenient in the first place. Maybe we can get rid of wages, but I’m much more skeptical about getting rid of “jobs”. Even if the janitor was socially worshipped and compensated twice or four times that of other workers it doesn’t make that work fun or enriching.

>>2906744
>Who is doing the enslavement?
In theory, you can't choose not to work. In history the blame is on the regime and the regime alone and not the theory they claimed to follow.

>>2906937
>Your own needs and the needs of others in society, it’s a lesser form of slavery than to nature or to private property or money, but is still slavery in the end.
No, it's actually the worst because it's mediated (bottlenecked through) by officials and then forced on you. If it was to Nature or some abstract economy, you could use your wit to get an easier deal and there's some explanation that this is how things work anyway. That alone would benefit the collective in many ways. If it's Big Brother telling you what to do, it's Big Brother telling you what to do and he's got a gun and there's nothing you can do to change your job and purpose. There's no describing to how bad that would feel or what you would do to get out of it, rabid is how I would begin.

It's officials and their fear of communist leadership that genocided the sparrows in Maoist China and allowed agricultural Lysenkoism to make the existing famines worse in the USSR.

Even if a communist paradise was the natural end of human history, the idea that violent revolution would lead to it only misled the people away from realising that. You don't have to be a crusader for natural Truths, well… not in this way.

>>2906897
You print money to buy weapons and weapons depreciate like rusty cars but you've got nukes so you can't use them directly yourself.

You sell the weapons to some people but they don't want to use the weapons either because war is destructive and they like their healthcare system very much.

Weapons keep getting sold and re-sold until they're used somewhere out there in the solar system.

Weapons were a necessary evil in history but what if they decided to take over history instead to guarantee their profits?

>>2906744
NTA but no free people would work in factories or mines if they had better options. The free people of the world had to be slaughtered or pushed onto marginal land for the sake of "progress." But in fairness to the commies, theirs might be a more tolerable slavery, if the universal labor camp worked out as they say (but every camp needs guards and a warden).

>>2904812
I heard in CHINA people don't identify as commies unless they're actually in the party. Otherwise they might call themselves commie supporters. I don't know if that's true I heard it from social media but it sounds GOOD so I'll repeat it and say that could apply here also.



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