/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2832017
I think tomatoes are a jewish plot to destroy the white race

Now, does my position on tomatoes make you more or less trusting of me?

Bookchin is a pseud tier retard that was glad societ kids died remember.

Bookchin is Mamdanite-Rojavite garbage. It is fanfic for the lust of left-imperialists.

>>2832611
Marx supported manifest destiny. I don't think that invalidates everything he said.

>>2832721
Manifest destinybwas correct and revolutionary

>>2832672
I accept your concession. Now never needlessly criticize the Soviet Union ever again!

>>2832664
>Achievements of trotskysim
Its never been tried

Trotsky was the first neoliberal in history

>>2832693
That would be Stalin and the partition of Palestine

>>2832696
Ollahooakbaring retard

>>2831415
That position is correct. Marxism in the 21st century is either un anti-americanisme primaire or nothing at all

>>2831963
a guy who's dead, a guy who barely made it into politics, a guy who only western retort, in a country where nazism has only been influenced by the west, and its intelligence countries.
find better material.

>>2831938
"I'm totally a leftist, but Hitler didn't go far enough!!"

Not exactly, but I enjoy the complex schema my psychology constructs to cope with it. It's a refined sort of taste

>>2832645
Alienation is also a legal term. The labourer is objectively alienated from the products of his labor and therefore deciding on their fate, because he's hired for his labour power and paid the market price for it in legal separation from the means by which he produces. The subjective effects of this separation are conditional in their historically determined manifestations, but they are nonetheless significant to Marx's later work. In the first volume of Capital, this is understood to be the basis of the working class' intellectual and physical immiseration as "an appendage of the machine" from Chapter 6 onwards. This is how I understand it in relation to the species-being, in the sense of man's creativity as harnessed for production guided by the self-destructive capitalist drive to valorize dead labour as opposed to production for the sake of usefulness based on human reasoning. David Harvey has a good video going over alienation in case my rambling doesn't elucidate it

If you do particularly dull work, you can think about other stuff while doing it. If the work process is rearranged by psychology experts to make it more engaging and empowering and blahblahblah, this can make your quality of life worse.

Amerikans enjoy the aliénation of workers

Most people are goycattle slaves and as long as they have Netflix and food they don't care about anything, we will never see a socialist revolution in our lifetimes

>>2832437
only nominally

>>2832436
JFK said the quiet part out loud

>>2832437
Bullshit they wanted the confederacy to win, Prussia and Russia were both firmly with the Union.

This is how ultras talk about FDR

>>2832437
Not really.

>>2832457
I don't think they ever actually wanted/expected the confederacy to win but they were happy to make money from them and hoped the war would damage America and make cheaper goods available. However once the Lincoln proclamation happened they had to come down on the side of the Union and stop selling to the confederacy.

>>2827672
>Darwin did not derive natural selection through a formal logical proof in the mathematical sense. Instead, he worked dialectically in a broad sense: he examined tensions and interactions between opposing tendencies in nature.

that's not how darwin developed the theory of evolution. he developed it by leaving his house and travelling all over the world on ships and observing lots of wild animals and fossilized skeletal remains in different regions and talking to farmers and asking them questions about their selective breeding practices for plants and animals, writing things down in his journals and gathering lots of information, i.e. a lot of hard work. he didn't do it by sitting on his ass in a cozy armchair philosophizing and bloviating with other intellectual windbags. science is 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration.

dialectics is correct in its first assertion, that reality emerges from the interplay of two fundamental forces, but that assertion was made thousands of years ago by eastern philosophers and is nothing new or revolutionary. where dialectics goes wrong is its following assertion that by understanding the duality we can understand the totality, that there could ever be some kind of synthesis achieved between the two fundamental forces. there can be no novel synthesis, the synthesis was where it all began, long ago, before the One split into two and created the universe. the synthesis vanished the moment our world came into being and it is gone forever.

Step 1.
<The foundation of irreligious criticism is: Man makes religion, religion does not make man. Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man – state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d'honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion.
<Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.
>AI Overview In the late 19th century, opium usage was widespread and socially normalized across the Western world and Asia. It was primarily consumed as an accessible, over-the-counter medicine, though the period marked a cultural shift as governments began to recognize its addictive dangers and impose the first strict regulations
<The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.
It's almost like truly understanding and contextualizing these authors requires engaging with questions that were taken for granted then.

Step 2. In Order
>Hegel, Encyclopedia Logic, §§107–111 (Measure).
>Engels, Anti‑Dühring, chapters on quantity–quality.
>Engels, Dialectics of Nature, “Basic Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2830123
When you use grok to digest difficult posts you don't have to re-share that back here champ.

>>2825086
>This is PRECISELY what Hegel says
yeah same i was fuckin lolin @ op

>>2810984
Anatta, that the self does not exist, except through dependent origination.

Buddhism has been strip-mined by Neo-Confucianism and Daoism, and in fact given Theravada and Mindfulness Buddhism it already exists as a Trojan horse within the capitalist system because its ontological priors are in fact hostile to capitalist function.

The idea that the self is not an actual basic reality provides a powerful battering ram against capitalist atomization, and can be used as a basis for solidarity.

Moreover, if we go to cause and effect, Yogacara already has a potent weapon to alienate that, wherein each moment of time is actually fully independent; every frame of reality self-immanentizing.

>>2792434
I hate landlords. The clergy are as useless as the nobility.

>>2792434
So revolution is enlightenment?

>>2823620
Yes. You cannot achieve Nirvana without proletarian revolution.

Atheism >>>

No, not on the scale of a nation-state at least, the development of capitalism in the last pockets of pre-capitalist antiquity happened in conjunction with post-WW2 "de-colonization". As a rule of thumb, the remnants or regressions to previous modes of production occur only in nations where due to failed states, war or absolute poverty it is impossible to maintain a capitalist economy, and even then it's iffy because capitalism does maintain institutions like slave labor and tribute in other forms in specific instances.

>>2822553
Of course it does, he's a Marxist. Do you think a Marxist would abandon materialism? And yes, it does mean feudalism is fake.

>>2821673
There never have been feudal societies. Feudalism is a myth. It never existed and was cooked up by 18th century writers to malign the medieval past. There was never such a thing as a feudal system, even in Europe.

>>2821704
>Pockets in Peru, bolivia, guatemala, Chiapas mexico, have haciendas.
Resemble European manorialism, but there's no serfdom and they are also aimed at cultivating cash crops for a global market.

>In the sahel, Ethiopia, and west african states there are also bonded labour and hereditary lords,
Sahelian states were tributary systems and also relied on slavery, they didn't have a European style landed aristocracy and still don't. Much of the Sahel remains nomadic or semi-nomadic.

>India still has zamindars that own large swaths of land that own debt slaves
In Mughal India, zamindars were revenue collectors who collected taxes in kind and used them to provide services to the local community and to the Emperor. Zamindars didn't own any land because all land legally belonged to the Emperor, who in theory appointed zamindars to districts on a rotating basis. There was no serf class and zamindars couldn't compel peasants to do anything. It was the British who turned zamindars into large scale landowners and in any case the system was legally abolished in India in the 70s, although zamindars and their descendants remain private landowners.

>probably most feudal of all, afganistan
This is just sillly. Afghanistan is dominated by large tribes structured according to segementary lineage system. These tribes don't have chiefs or leaders, they settle their disputes through councils, and while they have "kings" they don't really have any legal authority and ordinary people don't have to follow them. Land is seen as the collective property of a kin group, not just an individual owner. There are no serfs, no landed aristocracy.

>>2822553
you're right for once
>>2822846
you basically ignored everything he said and just reasserted your position

India is semi-colonial and semi-feudal.

Chuan Jianguo obviously…

Communism is not about the individual, you are only ever as “good” as the people around you and the society you inhabit

>>2817301
Xi definitely

>>2817835
beat me to it, must be true. i worship you now

David Harvey…?

>>2828799
no that's reformist socialism + nationalism, you dolt

>>2827945
actually the lumpenproletarians and petty bourgeoisie put hitler and ᴉuᴉlossnW in power

>that image
Are most of the US's brainworms really able to be traced back to Nietzsche? Is the Hitler particle reallx just the Nietzsche in disguise?

Active-Nihilist-Anarcho-Communism better.