/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2827697
The material interest of first world proletariat which benefits from higher wages from imperialism renders them a labour aristocracy is reformism.

>>2827883
>”I just want to be left alone.”
<Continues to rely completely on the social relations of production that allow them to eat, have clothing, shelter, and treats, all at the expensive of the lives of the proletariat that lives on subsistence wages
People working in sweatshops don’t get to be left alone. It’s either wage-slavery or death. The average person who just “wants to be left alone” really just wants the benefits of slave labor without having to think about how it’s made. Nothing but objects and pawns to be used by the ruling class in the best case where they are just ignorant, and pure evil when they know and just don’t care. The latter deserve to have everything taken away so they can know what it’s like.

>>2827935

Burgerland is a phrase created by north korean shills so maybe… the shoe fits larper.

American communist movements were infiltrated by the CIA and FBI.

>>2827698
Lives in a world where people are literate*

>>2829161

Yeah that too. Also, look at the last 3 digits of your post ID :)

>>2829170
Thanks dear

What do you think of the points I made in the video?

Your whole video is just self-hating repressor TERF shit and "people shouldn't transition because of some esoteric nazi philosophy about strength through pain". Your video isn't worth engaging with and I hope you feel embarrassed about your anprim phase when you grow up. But fuck your "being kind", it is the height of repulsive liberalism to want to be kind to people you think shouldn't exist. It's what those evil fucking imperialists say while committing genocide. "Oh, we are working against them in every possible way, but at least we're kind! It's just a difference in opinion, you see. Scientifically, they shouldn't exist".

Next time make gay porn for pride (or lesbian i guess, since you are a woman, if ur straight u could collab with a trans woman to get that Big Trans Cock)

>>2827256
its joever

>>2827256
>I do think that we are witnessing the end of global industrial society
We’re dead if that’s the case. You either have industry or you die from wet bulb because you can’t make cooling systems anymore.

>>2827651
People still think you can just revert the means of production and scale down, pretty funny

Im afraid of the ministry for the future india heatwave happening

I don't get why stopping most production is infeasible. Isn't there like a surplus stored somewhere? We can do with rations for a while, why not?

>>2813025
>people on the first world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
this is economism.
why must a labour union only concern itself with the economic wellbeing of it's members when injustices and tyranny exist outside itself?
Why be content with paying dues to a union that will barely fight for your own rights when the gestapo are disappearing your neighbors?

>>2813026
>Why be content with paying dues to a union that will barely fight for your own rights when the gestapo are disappearing your neighbors?
Because you are paying the union specifically to fight for your own rights?
Why the fuck would you be content to pay a union to do one thing but it does something else instead lol.
If it fought for your rights AND against other injustices that's all well and good, but if it comes to the point where it fights for injustices at the expense of maintaining/enhancing your rights then it ceases to be a labour union

>>2829020
all unions should provide militant arms and martial arts classes.

>>2829020
>but if it comes to the point where it fights for injustices at the expense of maintaining/enhancing your rights then it ceases to be a labour union
This can be how you end up with a labour aristocracy though. For example, it was common in the past for dockworkers to show solidarity with people in colonial or fascist countries by refusing to load or upload goods bound for or coming from those countries. To take a comteporary hypothetical, if a dockworker's union and management are in negotiations, and management offers a contract that includes large wage and benefit increases in exchange for a pledge not to boycott military shipments to Israel, should the union take the deal?

>>2829034
>should the union take the deal?
You're describing the economist issue. Syndicate action has to be made political, otherwise it is just economism. But it is hard to repoliticize syndicates.

Shows how historylets people are here when they refuse to even mention that Nietzscheanized Marxism is called fascism.

>>2828799
no that's reformist socialism + nationalism, you dolt

>>2827945
actually the lumpenproletarians and petty bourgeoisie put hitler and ᴉuᴉlossnW in power

>that image
Are most of the US's brainworms really able to be traced back to Nietzsche? Is the Hitler particle reallx just the Nietzsche in disguise?

>>2828778
or it proves that anti-imperialism is such a meaningless position, it can lead to calling the most flagrantly imperialist presidential candidate since john mccain an anti-imperialist, because he mildly criticized wars

RAPE TARGET

>>2828637
fpbp

He's doing a great job (of destroying America)

I support him

>>2828797
a guy pretending to be an anti imperialist doesn't mean real anti imperialism is bad are you completely retarded?

>the existence of low quality chocolate means that high quality chocolate is bad.

shut up fuck wit

>>2828819
he never pretended to be an anti-imperialist, that's the thing, he was an open and flagrant imperialist and never lived it down, but idiots claimed him to be one, because he wanted to withdraw from europe (i might add george w bush did this against al gore), if anti-imperialists can delude themselves into thinking the most flagrant imperialist is an anti-imperialist, then such an ideology should be questioned for its real world value

For one thing, such claims carry the implication that young people, including those who are empowered with their rights, are easier to coerce and intimidate into lying on behalf of adult rapists than other adults are, which is an ageist attitude against young people. Such claims are also invoking negative stereotypes and unreasonable distrust of adults by making the strong implication that adults who have a romantic/sexual interest in younger teens are very likely to be unscrupulous. This is a similar sentiment to what I often hear from anti-choice MAAs when they argue in favor of retaining AoC laws: an extreme, paranoia-laced mistrust for adults, with an accompanying belief that society is filled to the brim with adult rapists and potential rapists who are just sitting back and waiting for the AoC laws to be lowered, and will then emerge in mass numbers to pounce on unsuspecting minors, threaten and coerce them into having sexual relations, and then taking advantage of the AoC laws being lowered to intimidate these minors into saying that the rape was actually consensual. I wish people who make such claims would seriously think clearly about what they say before saying it, because they would look far less foolish and totally out of their minds with paranoia if they did so.
In a democratic nation, misanthropic attitudes that presume the world is filled with evil people, and passing laws based on this assumption, are frowned upon with good reason. We cannot pass laws based on what are clearly assumptions about what people might do based on a cynical dislike for the human race and still remain even a nominally democratic nation that is based upon socially progressive values. Yes, there are some evil adults out there who would indeed try to take advantage of young people, but I challenge anyone to prove that these adults exist in such great numbers that they justify oppressive laws that are based upon totally arbitrary assumptions, and which necessitate throwing large amounts of innocent people in prison to make sure that every single truly evil or guilty person gets punished right away. Yes, evil adults doing such things can happen and indeed have happened before, but I think it's nothing less than totally hysterical and even ageist to suggest that huge numbers of younger people lack the fortitude and strength of will to report to friends, family, and the authorities when an actual case of rape occurred regardless of what threats the hypothetical adult rPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2545468
Bump, I cannot let my Epic Dialectical Materialist Effort Post Thread on the “Aesthetics of Communism” die yet, like, this is literally my Masterpiece, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲!

>>2804606
What schizo shit are you talking about, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲!

Please ban this user. They’re part of a bot operation orchestrated by a cult that uses this image board to train online personas so they can release them to psyop people into following a fake herd. they will eventually do whatever the fuck they do and make hundreds of personalities based on it put it on YouTube and elsewhere to promote their misguided beliefs.

>>2804607

dude were logging you all, we saw the software responding to us. deleted it to show you, we're watching.

>>2545468
Bump, I cannot let my Epic Dialectical Materialist Effort Post Thread on the “Aesthetics of Communism” die yet, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲!

He was right tho. There was only one actual communist revolution (USSR), and that later collapsed because of economic conditions, isolation and intense opportunism arising from the large non-proletarian sections of Russia.

But today, almost the entire world is industrialized, and revolution can happen anywhere.

>>2828501
Bureaucracy took over the USSR because of how backwards Russia was around the 1910s. Permanent revolution would've solved everything.

>>2828624
>revolution can happen anywhere
the strength of our opposition is not uniform across space. weakest in the chain.
Neither uniform is the strength of our revolutionary organization of the conscious class, militant and activated in the unions, economic, social and cultural. It too has hot concentrations and cold spots, across the terrain.
>>2828634
Trots have had ample time to take the L. That you're mostly just tailing social fascists to this very day is embarrassing. You're just as dogmatic and inflexible as Hoxhaists. Intelligent Leninists learned the failures of the United Front from Above in the early 20s. You're just another mutation of radlibs, but with additional steps than even the socdems.

>>2828501
Fuck you, OP.

>>2828644
We don't abandon the international working class under any circumstances.

>>2828650
Apparently you can't tell the international working class from the international bourgeoisie. But you always were mensheviks first and bolsheviks for clout. How's Corbyn doing, leading the proletarian revolution? Has he got any artillery from his comrade EU bureaucrats in Brussels yet? NO?? Bummer…

>>2827781
Nelson Mandela of all people agreed with you

>>2828119
>palestine
>hitlerite nationalism
are you german or israeli? either way tie a knot and hang yourself now. do palestinians want a state for one ethnoreligious group only? no, not even hamas does. do israelis want that? look at their actions the last 75 years or so.

>>2828534
It's pretty funny that it happenned to Cenk after now years of trying to appeal to MAGA and other right wing freaks.

maybe i've just been reading too many insane libertarian cranks, but i can't help but roll my eyes when reading socdems these days. "why doesn't the government simply implement an industrial strategy, throw loads of money at industry, generally slap together a good economy single-handedly instead of relying on the market" motherfucker the government can't build a single railway line, have you looked at the government, if the government ran the supermarkets you'd starve to death. it doesn't matter that this isn't a fundamental law of economic reality and that governments in some places and some times can be competent: your actually-existing government is a joke!
forget industrial strategy and big LARPing photos with re-opened shipyards and coal mines, forget "reversing" neoliberalism that never mostly didn't happen in the first place, if you were given absolute power tomorrow you would spend the next 15 years constructing the fundamental infrastructure for implementing policy and you'd likely still fail. but you won't even do that because you can't even organize a party or a takeover of an existing party, or a fucking think tank. as above: so below!

socialists have the same problem times a thousand. less frustrating than socdems because it's easier to see it's in the realm of pure fantasy, but still eye-rolling: what if instead of the state doing a few things, it did everything? what if we tried new planning mechanisms that have never been tried anywhere, or old ones that failed elsewhere, or this really cool one that totally works in china where the state builds a billion miles of railway a day and beats you up if you put your hand in the till, what if we overthrew the entire existing order of things when so far we haven't even been able to get 15 people to show up to a meeting on wednesday without getting into big arguments about who we'll take our our petty psychosexual frustrations on first once we take absolute power, which will happen any day now.

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MIGRATE