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I look at early Science fiction, and it seems a lot of it before the 50's had a communist character to it - thinking of stuff like "Red Star" or the whole topic of Russian Cosmism, it seems a lot of this got swallowed up by liberal and pro-colonial science fiction (starship troopers, star trek). So what happened? How would you contrast proletarian science fiction and bourgeoisie science fiction generally?
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I'm reading Andromeda: A Space-Age Tale from Ivan Yefremov (hottie) and it's very pleasing the optimism, I'm not exactly sure how far it is into the future but then everything is organized through councils/commissions.

you can also check this thread on /hobby/
>>>/hobby/2419

>starship troooooopers
>Pro-colonial

>>2863528
Might not be colonial but it sure compares the bugs to chinese communists

>>2863286

Bull’s Hour is the sequel and it’s also excellent!



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If crime is merely a function of poverty why do the bourgeoisie who are ultra rich commit so many crimes?

Seems to me crime is more of a function of sociopathy than poverty
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>>2863069
>If crime is merely a function of poverty
I'd say of wealth inequality, not poverty.
/QTDDTOT/ though, ig.


>>2863084
>theft is caused by poverty
The intellectual might of leftism.

>>2863069
>If crime is merely a function of poverty
it's not
literally every single study on the subject shows this

>If crime is merely a function of poverty
Nice misframing, monkey boy!

This claim is usually made in the context of petty theft, violent muggings and gang murders. The kind of crime that makes everyday people, or small business owners, feel unsafe.
The ultrawealthy and states tend towards committing different crimes.

>Seems to me crime is more of a function of sociopathy than poverty

Crime and law is not a proxy for morality or social cohesion. I regularly avoid paying the wealthy and I use those savings to support people and organizations in need - am I therefore a sociopath?



 

Why do almost all modern "communist" party members look like 'that'.
I sound like a conservative here but all communists nowadays look fat and uncared for. Aren't ML parties supposed to prepare a vanguard for the revolution? If so why do most ML parties have members like slobs? Every time I look at my local communist org I get repulsed and honestly, if I weren't a communist myself, I would never take them seriously.
What is the solution to this degeneracy?
>pic kind of related
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>>2853562
Substack reads: "Virgil Abloh's Modernism"

>>2853790
good chance of that or he follows leftypol/leftypol adjacent accounts on twitter

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>>2853449
Least of our problems when proletarians ask why "socialism failed" in the USSR.

>omg fellow commies, does anyone else think we're all fat and ugly teehee. why don't we all wear suits and rant about degeneracy



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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


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>>2841487
>if the working class actually exercises its primary strength as identified by Marx, that of the ability to withhold work, it's just bargaining and expecting the bourgeoisie to roll over


well damn i guess marx was just a retarded liberal.


>>2840691
Kind of hope the disillusionment with Platner is a sign that people are getting fatigued of vets coming home and waving their military credentials in front of their face, as if it means anything other than they’re a mercenary for imperialism.



 

Has anyone noticed the uptick in liberal nostalgia for the Obama Era in recent months?

Maybe this comes on the heels of Mamdani’s mayorship and how Mamdani largely reminds shitlibs of Obama. But regardless, I’m seeing a lot of these people romanticize the late-2000s-early-2010s time as being one where “America was flourishing” and “politics was civil”. As if Obama didn’t break every single promise he made. As if Obama didn’t engage in far more foreign interventions than GWB and the Neocon gang, albeit through proxy armies and drone warfare. As if Obamacare wasn’t a massive boost for the health insurance companies. Not to mention how Obama did nothing for the Black community.

As a side note, I’m also seeing these same exact shitlibs romanticize Occupy Wall Street. As someone who took part in Occupy and who slept in Zuccotti Park, I clearly remember how much liberals HATED Occupy when it first took off. They were telling us something along the lines of: “You commies and anarkids need to STFU and let Obama do his job.” Now, I’m seeing liberals say Occupy was the last attempt of implementing left-wing populism in America, and that the corporate media deliberately pushed identity politics right after Occupy ended in order to divide-and-conquer the population so they would never rise up against the billionaires again. I mean, where were all these people when we were getting brutalized by the NYPD? Pathetic.
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>>2863441
a slight follow up: what's really fun is you can see this trend by tracking the implosion of "new atheism": libs in it for pro-social reasons (e.g. mostly opposed to bush and conservatives hurting others) became "atheism+" and then social justice warriors, now usually some kind of communist, while the more antisocial element (mostly enjoyed "owning" and humiliating people in debates and being able to attack islam) became alt-right debate bros, then trump cultists. both those successor ideologies met the underlying psychological needs of their participants better than new atheism could.

you can even find fun "exception that proves the rule" individuals like thunderf00t who started as an anti-creationist youtuber but pivoted to anti-feminist slop in reaction to the early SJW movement, but then when brexit/trump happened and revealed the right as being anti-social idiot weirdoes who threatened the funding of his day job as a scientist, e.g. not a brain-dead idiot he pivoted back to being a liberal who made anti-covid conspiracy videos and now mostly makes anti-elon musk content. so that's the kind of trajectory you'll find if someone is a little anti-SJW but doesn't have the overwhelming anti-social tendencies of an actual rightist, if someone's actual underlying psychological need is to be "debunking" stuff. (which will now naturally put you on the left because basically everything rightoids say is a lie, having unmoored themselves from reality almost completely.)

>>2845770
Tbh, 2000s and 2010s America was way healthier and more stable than 2020s America, which is why people now romanticise the past twenty years.

And I honestly agree because the 2000s and 2010s were the peak of online culture and just overall better times.

But obviously the problems of the 2020s must at some point derive from the past, and the last two decades are no exception so in that regard I’m actually self-aware to not idealise it too much. After all, leftism back then was just a meme.

But can’t say things haven’t improved much in 2020s, in fact ever since 2016 things have just gotten shittier and shittier. The only improvement imo is that the 2020s has more stakes and is more of a breeding ground for revolution than the 2010s were, when communism was mostly a meme spread by suburban Tumblr liberals.

>>2845770
He represents "the good old days". I personally prefer Trump as hes sabotaging American empire with sheer incompetence.

he was america's finest house uyghur.

>>2845772
Who or what is an American?



 

🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


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visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
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>>2862821
>The ones I have seen in that thread are quoting Carl Schmitt
>no screenshots or context
damn that's crazy

>>2863010
>prove to the class
What class?
>i stand by my statement that rightism is mental illness
Not wrong, but not the complete truth. Rightism is also confusion and ignorance.
>i stand by my claim that the average man under 55 voted for trump
Sauceless statement
>if "going to college" turns rightists into lib/leftists, "not going to college" is being raised wrong. simple as
Not an absolute

>>2863015
the metaphorical class which positions me as a teacher, everyone else as students, and you in particular as a bad student being told to explain their behaviour to the class, all for comic effect. (now here's the lesson: unlike anything in my earlier post, that particular phrase was performative.)

>>2862625
>leftoid media
>ditch the people who found Platner objectionable
I didn't even see that but then again, i don't go to shit sites like twitter all the time

>make their beds with the DNC "progressives"

The people who found him objectionable were the main part of the DNC, DNC "progressives" and DNCfags who where copying the DEM's AIPAC text in /USA/, he still won the first part of vote after when everyone was shit talking for the wrong/dumbest reason and only a few times with maybe past crimes were talked, so the first part with "cancelled" is less of thing now to the point where plantman could've keep going still.

>Platner was meant as a trojan horse from day one

nearly all progressive dems like AOC are

Reminder,
the whole TWister Vs. Treatler spam is nothing but barely concealed poltard wrecking to make leftists look shitty.



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Burnham slammed for backing Starmer's war policy
In his first pronouncement on foreign policy and the military build-up, Mr Burnham emphasised backing for the continuing Ukraine conflict and support for the escalating arms bill. He also failed to mention Palestine or the crisis in Gaza at all in the article, which appeared in The Times, despite claiming he would be “guided by our values.” He also pledged to retain Jonathan Powell as national security adviser in No 10.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/burnham-slammed-backing-starmers-war-policy

UK Labour government rams through authoritarian National Security Bill
The Commons passed the Bill unopposed after agreeing to six amendments proposed by the House of Lords supposedly meant to safeguard against its extraordinary attacks on press freedoms and the activities of NGOs, without addressing the equally chilling impact on anti-war and anti-genocide protests.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/07/09/ksbb-j09.html

Russia's Saratov oil refinery at a halt since Wednesday's drone attack, sources say
Russia's Saratov oil refinery stopped oil processing on Wednesday following damage from a drone attack, two ​sources with knowledge of the matter told Reuters. Ukraine ‌has increased attacks on Russia's energy infrastructure in recent months to try to undermine Moscow's war effort.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russias-saratov-oil-refinery-halt-since-wednesdays-drone-attack-sources-say-2026-07-09/

Turkey brokers intra-Somalia talks as federal rifts test Ankara’s influence
Turkey brokered a first round of talks this week between Somalia’s federal government and opposition representatives in a bid to break a deepening political impasse over the country’s constitutional reforms. The two-day talks, held in Mogadishu on Tuesday and Wednesday, brought together “representatives of the Federal Government of Somalia and opposition represePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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How is Brandon doing? Last I heard he was on HRT. How emasculating. Pushed out by your party for being braindead and then straight on to the HRT.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-is-receiving-radiation-and-hormone-therapy-to-treat-his-prostate-cancer-aide-says

‘Absolutely Unprecedented’: Trump Lackeys Crushing Efforts to Rein in Price-Hiking Corporate Mergers
Three unnamed sources told the outlet “that DOJ staff have privately complained that the Trump administration is essentially deciding not to enforce antitrust laws that are critical to keeping companies from becoming single-source providers and being able to charge enormous sums for their product or service.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/doj-antitrust-division-mergers

New Mexico accuses US Justice Department of impeding Epstein investigation
“Despite verbal assurances of cooperation from the USDOJ, access to the requested records has not been granted, no substantive response has been provided, and more than 130 days have now elapsed,” Torrez, a Democrat, wrote. “The [New Mexico Department of Justice] views this length of time as an unreasonable delay under any rule of reason.” The southwestern state reopened its investigation into Epstein in February, after the federal government released millions of files related to the convicted sex offender.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/9/new-mexico-accuses-us-justice-department-of-impeding-epstein-investigation
https://archive.ph/rUqgb

Who is behind the 'Muslim anti-BDS' campaign launching in the US?
The coalition says it seeks "to benefit Israel, its Arab citizens and Palestinians employed by Israeli companies", arguing that boycotts harm both Palestinians and Israelis. It also says it aims to raise at least $500,000 by encouraging 500,000 supporters to each contribute $1 by 9 October. The funds would be invested in Israeli treasury bonds and donated to four organisations: Sharaka, the Jerusalem Interfaith Centre, the Combat Antisemitism Movement, and Debate for Peace.
https://www.newarab.com/news/who-behind-muslim-anti-bds-group-launching-us

The hidden costs of low-tax states
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>>2863433
joan biden

Communist Workers Platform USA (CWPUSA): How MAGA and “Progressivism” Obscure the Struggle for Socialism
In recent weeks, the Democratic Socialists of America has claimed a handful of electoral “victories.” In New York’s 7th and 13th Districts covering Queens, Brooklyn, and the Bronx, candidates Claire Valdez and Darializa Avila Chevalier defeated the Democratic Party old guard in the primaries. In Colorado’s 1st District, Melat Kiros unseated 15-term incumbent Democrat Diana DeGette. These candidates have run on common platforms such as Medicare For All, Abolish Ice, Ending War, Housing for All, and Unions for All. As prices for rent, food, gas, insurance, and more continue to climb while wages stay low, and with jobs being few and far between, the workers of this country look for a way out. Daily stress from bills, debt, and harsh workplaces wears us down. Our families are more and more burdened by this week-to-week, day-to-day struggle. Meanwhile, the capitalist class throws a parade. The stock market reaches atmospheric heights, Elon Musk became the world’s first trillionaire, billions more of our dollars are sent to fight wars against competing states, and impossible sums of money are poured into AI technology that the capitalists will use to surveil and displace us from work to their exclusive benefit. The situation is worsening. In the desperate grasp for a way out of this reality (worker’s daily reality within capitalism), the ruling class has developed two opposing and equally pernicious political options, both aimed at keeping capitalism alive and well.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/07/how-maga-and-progressivism-obscure-the-struglle-for-socialism.html

Multinationals Sold Kenyan Farmers a Lethal Harvest
The word dawa, Swahili for “medicine,” threads through Francis Marete Mboroki’s speech as he describes the chemicals he spent decades spraying across his small farm on the fertile slopes of Mount Kenya. They were sold as the tools of progress: modern seeds, bigger harvests, prosperity. Even as European and US regulators banned or restricted these chemicals at home, Mboroki kept spraying them, unaware they could be poisoning him. Today his doctors believe those pesticides caused the throat cancer slowly consuming his body.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2863432
>burnham
Watch him resign in 2 years or call a snap election like rishi sunak did
>jew Arab party split vote
Nobody cares not even left-electoralists
>venezuela pro Israel
How did trump manage to predict Venezuelan would fold tgis quicly?
>>2863438
The 3rd thing is cia or something



 

Why did the CIA spread AIDS in Russia?

Russia has one of the highest rates of HIV-AIDS in the Western World, rivalling many countries in Africa. And this isn't a new thing either. The USSR had an AIDS crisis towares the end, and there's plenty of evidence that HIV-AIDS was one of the major factors behind the USSR's collapse. It's ironic, because all the capitalist indulgences such as homosexuality, IV drug use, and prostitution were highly, highly taboo in the USSR, and yet AIDS rampaged through their society. The only logical explanation is that AIDS was a CIA bioweapon.
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>>2861050
Polygamy was banned in France and it was called Islamophobia, so not that surprising

>>2861100
Explain

>>2861050
i'd recognize it as retarded. the problem is not in the cloth, it's in the person underneath it.

>>2858652
yet you are here replying to this thread

>>2861050
Kinda a big difference between your choice of fashion and mutilating children. Why not defend FGM while you're at it because banning it would be islamophobic.



 

>Simplified Chinese was officially introduced by the government of the People's Republic of China in the 1950s as part of a broader effort to increase literacy and modernize the country. The reform reduced the number of strokes in many commonly used characters and standardized certain character forms, making them easier and faster to learn and write. Although the government promoted the reform, it drew on simplification practices and proposals that had existed for centuries. The primary goal was to help expand education and enable more people, especially those with limited access to schooling, to become literate. Simplified Chinese is now the standard writing system in China and Singapore, while Traditional Chinese remains in use in Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Macau.

English needs spelling and conjugation overhaul so badly
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>>2862188
And to be clear, Zephaniah was heavily dyslexic, he couldn't read nor write when he left school at 13, and wasn't even diagnosed with dyslexia until 21. So this was a high degree of dyslexia with a very late start.

Chinese script was invented because multiple kingdoms speaking different languages could be unified by a singular writing system. Even if you don't know how the words are supposed to be pronounced to the other person you can still understand the ideas. Chinese script is already a lingua Franca by design.
Chinese script should be the universal writing system, while speaking whatever language is convenient

>>2862751
>Even if you don't know how the words are supposed to be pronounced to the other person you can still understand the ideas.
Only the oldest Chinese characters are pictographs and most of those have been transformed completely into logograms. And you can't just look at logograms and know what it's talking about.
>Chinese script should be the universal writing system, while speaking whatever language is convenient
Japan did that and now they have three writing systems. Even the Korean writing system would be better.

>>2843122
>liking something
>idealism
oh nonono maokeks…

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Unironically adopt Shavian.
Shavian.info



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Materialists sometimes become Moralist-Materialists and inadvertently reproduce Abrahamic logic in Secular form. For instance, take these two conflicting forms of morality in the bible:

>Exodus says God punishes people intergenerationally, for the crimes of their ancestors


versus

>Ezekiel says God punishes people individually for their crimes


Now obviously materialists don't believe in supernatural entities like God, so it is up to humanity to catch and punish "crimes" but in deciding what "crime" is morality is created and conflated with legality. You can see this in the accumulation of unpunished crimes. Many if not most crimes go undiscovered, and the ones which are discovered may often go unsolved, and therefore unpunished. An unsolved and unpunished crime challenges the legitimacy of the law. People reinvent morality forms like Karma in secular form to excuse this systemic weakness.

For instance, the vast majority of slave owners died happy, fat, and unpunished. This distresses a great many people, even after slavery ended, so an Exodus style morality is created: intergenerational privilege passed down from abolished institutions becomes a crime in itself, not legally punishable, but morally punishable almost as severe as the crime itself, and the Exodus style morality is applied. Against this Exodus style morality comes the Ezekiel protesting "But I personally did not do anything."

There is an ever ending debate in humanity it seems regarding whether crimes are merely breeches of the law or of a sacred morality which is objective and above the law. There is a never ending debate whether children should be punished for the crimes of their parents, since they benefited indirectly from the spoils of those crimes.

But Exodus style morality can only apply to the crime which is discovered, but as yet unpunished. It cannot apply to the crime which is both discovered and unpunished. Therefore the Exodus style morality becomes an excuse to punish generations for the crimes of their ancestors, while excusing the crimes of individuals as long as they were sufficiently able to hide them and get away with them.
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>>2862385
Plato's Phaedo also discusses the mortal soul as a "harmony" of bodily powers, which like a song, disappears as soon as the instrument stops being played.
>>2862776
The Torah was compiled in 270 BCE by Greek Jews and takes from many European sources, such as Plato's Nomoi and Timaeus. Read Russell Gmirckin. Also, Dennis MacDonald shows that the Gospel of John plagiarises Euripides' Bacchae - also making Jesus a Greek literary figure. Nietzsche calls Christianity "Platonism for the Masses".
>Adam Green
Adam Green would be more respectable if he dropped the pagan larp.

>>2860191
Must be so hard being a negro bruh, imagine having enough time in your day to argue about this bs on imageboards
Jfl twin, stop being so ugly

This whole thread is being raped by itself tommorow btw

>>2862776
if you had even 2 braincells you would realize OP does not agree with the bible, but you started waxing poetic about your nordic blood upon seeing the bible's stupidity used as an example in comparison to how "secular" moralists reproduce its very logic

>we as europeans


is that the most important part of your identity? are you assuming everyone in the thread shares it?




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