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Official /leftybritpol/ Theme

https://youtu.be/u6XT3yc8G5s

Discuss goings on in the UK, the latest election cycle, if Keir is Queer and more….in /leftybritpol/
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>>2814545
The main issue with most immigration rhetoric is that it fails to distinguish between legal and illegal immigration, and so it confuses its messaging. I am then lead to believe that its not about "immigration" per se (since I'm sure we would accept plenty of more Ukrainian refugees), but its about less brown/black people in the UK, full stop. It is the movement from nationalism to racism.

>>2814582
>It is the movement from nationalism to racism.
This isn't really in contention; there was a notable channel 4 interview with some of the asylum protestors a few months back where their entire discourse hinged on the implicit and normative assumption of race as being the presiding factor over being relocated to their town.

>>2814597
Their dissatisfaction*

>>2814539
Yes it is and anything can be learned.




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Is second-world political communism – economical social-democratic developmentalism the way forward for the periphery/semi-periphery? What happens in the core during socialist construction/proletarian dictatorship?

>>2814481
No, I don't think I will. But you are free to go to the swamp!

Third World theory only applied to cold war dynamics



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>Dear Communist Parties of the World
>The Nazi menace in Germany is extremely worrying, and it is our goal as Communists to protect the workers from the greatest threat in the world at this moment
>That being, of course, Fascism
>However, if the USSR were to involve itself in the coming war, we would be destroyed
>Therefore, we will be signing a Non-Aggression Pact with Nazi Germany in order to prepare for their inevitable invasion of the USSR
>In the meantime, it is absolutely vital that the Allied powers defeat the Nazis.
>Those of you in countries that align against Hitler, support the war effort while agitating for Communism!
>Those of you in countries that align with Hitler, sabotage the Fascist war machine!
>Those of you in neutral countries, either agitate for involvement against Hitler, or if defenseless against a Nazi assault, agitate for co-operation with the Anti-Hitler alliance!
>It is tragic that we were unable to form an Anti-Fascist alliance with the Allies, but…
<You know what? Fuck that.
>Dear Communist Parties of the World
>I have signed a Non-Aggression Pact with Nazi Germany and hope to support their war effort by sending them large amounts of oil and grain
>Hopefully, the Nazis will fight a war with the other imperialist powers and after a couple hundred million people are dead they'll try to invade us in like, 1950 and then we'll beat them
>Furthermore, since an Axis victory is beneficial for us, this is what you must do
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https://sovinform.net/Stalin-USSR-arms-Syria-1948-War.htm

>It makes little sense to say that the dictatorship of the proletariat in the USSR would materially contradict the progressive bourgeois-democratic alliance of the proletariat and the anti-colonial national bourgeoisie in the Arab countries because that would mean the contradiction of the class interests of the Soviet proletariat with the class interests of the Arab proletariat. One can therefore calculate that the Soviets would never betray the anti-colonial Arab forces, even if, at face-value, appearing to betray it. And it unsurprisingly turns out that such a calculation is backed up immensely by historical empirical evidence – namely the military and economic support of the USSR and the Peoples’ Democracies for the Arab anti-colonial war effort during the 1948 War.

>The USSR was hedging its bets by sending some Czech arms from a remote air field to … Syria through Rijeka and Beirut…. (‘The Evolution of the Soviet Use of Surrogates in Military Relations with the Third World, with Particular Emphasis on Cuban Participation in Africa’, RAND Corporation, Gavriel D. Ra’anan, December 1979, p. 3) (IMG)
>A specific faction within Czechoslovakia, the Slansky faction, did use its influence to provide arms to Israel. The shipments were illegal and part of the treasonous activity of the Titoist faction in the Czechoslovak state. However, the communist faction, the Gottwald faction, was responsible for the arms shipments to Syria.

Hence, the USSR and People’s Democratic Czechoslovakia provided arms to Syria, Egypt, and Lebanon to combat the regime of Israel. People’s Democratic Romania also provided the petroleum resources crucial for the war effort. The USSR also increased its economic ties to Egypt during this time. The two states signed two trade agreements, giving each other highly-favored-nation statuses:

Stalin never supported israel, neither kaganovich or molotov, neither all of soviet leadership.

Reminder that Marxism is ultimate form of anticommunism

>>2814215
What would LASSALLE’s theme song be?

>>In the meantime, it is absolutely vital that the Allied powers defeat the Nazis.
See, the problem was that this was far from the consensus position among communists at the time. Most people considered Britain and France to be just as hostile to the USSR as the Nazis were, and there was a lot of truth to this. If the Germans had invaded the Soviet Union before going to war with the West (e.g., if they had negotiated transit through Poland or gotten the Poles to join the attack), it's likely that Britain and France would have supported Germany if not joined their war effort.




 

Wage/consumption taxes are the best kind of taxes under capitalism because they incentivize the state to keep workers well paid. Property taxes just encourage the state to invest in resource extraction. Bureaucrats simply cannot embezzle money for their treats if taxes are derived from the wages of the workers and workers are not well paid. Furthermore, the state nationalizing enterprises is counterproductive because it directly transforms the state into being a capitalist instead of just being bribed by capitalists. You may not like it, but the best state under global capitalism runs purely off of wage taxes and has no public industry.
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>>2813886
>If you tax the land a MoP factory is on then you tax the accumulation of capital.
Guy runs factory on land he doesn't own. From that guy the landlord takes money for his "service". The landlord is doing that irrespective of whether the landlord is taxed or not.

>>2813897
Intellectual monopoly rent is cancerous rent seeking anyhow.
>>2813900
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/housing-question
A monopoly on land is no different from a monopoly on a better kind of production. Commercial landlords are still department 1 and should not be taxed.

>>2813900

Listen I wouldn't bother arguing because its very clear from >>2813901 that the guy posting doesn't understand what a land rent is or what land value taxes are.

Its not even that he didn't read volume 3 on differential rent or even ricardo; Guy hasn't even read the Communist Manifesto basic programme.

>>2813892
games aren't on disks and cartridges anymore.

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>>2813934
not an argument



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Bolivian Miners Escalate Protests Against Paz
The mobilizations initially centered on demands for expanded mining zones, improved fuel access and regulatory changes. Protesters later attempted to march toward Plaza Murillo, where the Government Palace and Congress are located. Police responded with tear gas to stop the mining columns as dynamite explosions were reported across several streets in the historic center of the capital. Although a delegation of miners held prior talks with government officials, including Economy Minister José Gabriel Espinoza, who said authorities were “open to dialogue,” the negotiations failed to ease tensions.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/bolivian-miners-escalate-protests/

Threatened indictment of Raúl Castro ratchets up US pressure on Cuba
Although Raúl is officially retired, he remains the most potent figure in Cuban politics following the death of his brother Fidel in 2016, and by targeting him Washington appears to be heaping pressure on Cuba’s communist leadership at the end of an already extraordinarily intense week.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/15/raul-castro-indictment-cuba-trump

Peruvian prosecutors seek to disqualify leftist presidential candidate
Now the pressure against the leftist candidate is coming from the Peruvian Public Prosecutor’s Office, which is seeking a sentence of five years and four months, as well as a “permanent disqualification”, which would bar him from the electoral process. Meanwhile, Peru’s National Jury of Elections (JNE) has announced that it will announce the final results from the first round on May 17, defining who will head to the run off.
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2026/05/15/peruvian-prosecutors-seek-to-disqualify-leftist-presidential-candidate/

Israeli nationalists chant ‘death to Arabs’ in violent Jerusalem Day march
Marchers were bused in from around Israel and from settlements in the occupied West Bank in a vast Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Labor leaders call collective bargaining veto a ‘betrayal’ by Virginia governor
Virginia’s Democratic governor, Abigail Spanberger, vetoed a bill on Thursday that would have restored collective bargaining rights for 50,000 public sector workers in the state. Union leaders say the veto is a “betrayal” and “slap in the face” after the governor campaigned last year on promises to restore collective bargaining rights. Though majorities in both chambers of Virginia’s general assembly passed legislation that would restore bargaining rights to most public sector workers, Spanberger introduced an amended version of the bill last month that was eventually rejected by the assembly.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/15/collective-bargaining-bill-veto-virginia-governor

FAA cuts target for air traffic control staffing
The report said the time controllers spend on position managing air ⁠traffic has declined despite a 4% increase in traffic. It added it could increase time ​on position from around four hours per shift to more than five hours. The ​FAA said "deploying modern staffing models and scheduling tools will improve controller staffing efficiency and reduce the need for excessive overtime."
https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/faa-cuts-target-air-traffic-control-staffing-2026-05-15/

Pentagon quietly shut legally required program to prevent civilian deaths by military, watchdog finds
A report released by the department’s inspector general concluded the US military no longer has the people, tools or infrastructure needed to comply with two federal statutes requiring it to maintain a functioning civilian casualty policy, and operate a Civilian Protection Center of Excellence (CP CoE). Donald Trump’s administration has been accused of making deep cuts to the Pentagon’s civilian harm mitigation and response (CHMR) program, designed to handle training and procedures critical in limiting civilian harm in theaters of war.
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>From Gas to Groceries, Rural Americans Paying Heaviest Price for Trump’s Iran War
But leftypol told me Americans benefit drom American Imperialism

Statement by the Palestinian Resistance Factions on the 78th Anniversary of the Nakba
The Nakba continues through killing, massacres, expulsion, discrimination, impoverishment, siege, starvation, international silence, and US partnership. What is happening in the Gaza Strip and all Palestinian territories is a chapter in the series of ethnic cleansing and genocide that has not stopped for 78 years of zionist oppression and brutality, revealing the nature of the zionist project as a colonial, racist, uprooting tool. 78 years since the Nakba of the Palestinian people have been enough to build a revolutionary, resistance-minded, and fighter generation that believes in freedom and aspires to be free from the injustice of the “israeli” enemy and the return of every displaced Palestinian to their homeland. Return is a right for us that does not expire with time, and we will not compromise our land, sanctities, and legitimate rights, regardless of the sacrifices. Our people and our fighters will rise from under the rubble to build their homeland and future anew.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/32709/

Episode 547: Revolution in Palestine(TrueAnon)
We’re joined by Abdel Razzaq Takriti for a wide-ranging discussion about the political forces and parties of the Palestinian revolution. You can check out Abdel’s project with the Dig, the Thawra Project, here.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-547-in-157967000=

The General Strike in Wales
When the General Strike began on 4 May 1926, the coalfield communities of South Wales answered the call with militancy. Throughout the valleys, workers moved quickly to organise and coordinate themselves for the strike. This was a period of inspiring class struggle, which proved the courage and militancy of the working class and their ability to run society for themselves. In the Rhondda, strike committees were formed within hours of the strike beginning on 4 May. By the following day, they were controlling the region’s transport. They decided what lorries could carry and where they could go, and issued permits accordingly. They liaised with railway workers to prevent the movement of coal without their permission. They Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

tybna



 

Like, what do they actually do? Are they just adventurists? Do they even help organize the working class? People don't really talk about them that much other than in anarcho-nihilist circles and they haven't been very active recently (I think).

Here are their written works if anyone wants to read what they stand for and such:
https://libcom.org/tags/conspiracy-fire-nuclei
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/category/author/conspiracy-of-cells-of-fire

>>2813848
They're a bunch of old men now retired you're late to wikipedia

>>2813859 (Me)
And you are so late you didn't even do the research to see that they ceased to exist on their own in a merger with the informal IFA before disappearing



 

i get disliking Russia's bourgeois government, since it was a product of the collapse of the soviet union, and the US-backed shock doctrine under Yeltsin, but i really don't understand the screeching about "ziggers" and the weird focus on Putin as an individual. the "anti-zigger" posters are basically 10x worse than the "zigger" posters in terms of their basic historical literacy surrounding the 2022 conflict. And no amount of historical context seems to make them pump their brakes and tone down their rhetoric. It's hard to not have contempt for them. They don't even see how both Russia and Ukraine are victims of NATO meddling, products of the death of the USSR, products of Yeltsinism, pit against each other for the benefit of the imperial core capitalists.
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>>2810974
came after troops appeared > basically a LARP even if the votes accurately reflected public opinion.

>>2810988
/thread, nationalists are just babybrain retards regardless of there chosen fixation

>>2810799
>no amount of historical context seems to make them pump their brakes
if anything historical context would only make both sides more entrenched
> how both Russia and Ukraine are victims of NATO meddling, products of the death of the USSR
this conflict is in essence older than nato or ussr by centuries

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>>2810799
>no amount of historical context seems to make them pump their brakes and tone down their rhetoric
the issue is emotional for them, the history doesn't matter. you'll see this happen a lot so get used to it.

>>2813814
doesn't it? the notion that jews need to displace all the people of levant is repeated multiple times in the old testament alone



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is it possible to organize some sort of mass online harassment and doxxing campaign against rightoids? obv im mainly speaking of the white nationalist pro-trump rape-ublicans. i think we as a society need to at least try to make these people afraid again and i think thats a good first step. img slightly related but not really. (am newfag, not to chanboards but to this one. im not picking a flag i dont know what they mean.)(NOT YOUR PERSONAL ARMY)
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>>2813784
Fundamentally I think the issue is how do you shame people who are shameless, and how do you doxx people who livestream everything they do. You can't, it's a contradiction in terms.

>>2813788
I mean you're right, but that's why just trolling doesn't work, we need to make them afraid of physical consequences, rl streamers should just be beaten up if they try to go out in public, if they go for pepper spray or whatever they should just be shot

>>2813790
Now you're onto something interesting

>>2813790
so… what youre saying is… we should beat rightoids in the street instead…

>>2813734
doxxing doesnt change anything it just hurts the people i dont like, thats good.



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Under capitalism, games are job-like, but what if under socialism, jobs were game-like? A socialist society could take the artistic lessons of what makes something tedious more fun, addictive, and rewarding, and use it to labor required to make society function less miserable? You guys will probably shit on this idea but at least try to critique it constructively or think creatively about it.
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>>2812979
Yeah well the supervision part for them would entail violence because slaves still have agency whereas tech doesn't unless it's intentional or glitched.

you should tell that to oil rig workers and metal workers.

>>2812174
nta but why did you post that when anon was reffering to genetic engineering? Which is a thing that could happen in the future?

>>2811868
Reminds me of anarchist/anprim stuff about how tribal people have fun when hunting and gathering, they sing, gossip, tell jokes. Which sounds nice I guess but I dunno about singing at 7 am that's like those weird forced happiness Japanese corpos where everyone has to smile and they do calisthenics in the lobby.

>>2813775
I'm guessing it's just a thing where if people are in a good mood they do it



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Eastern front of WW2
22 June 1941 – 8 May 1945
(3 years, 10 months, 2 weeks and 2 days)

Russian invasion of Ukraine
24 February 2022 – present
(4 years, 2 months and 3 weeks)

yeah this is basically WW3, it is known



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