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how do you argue against someone when they bring up the per capita argument. my normgroid friends have discovered it and have started chudding out hard
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Systemic racism

what is a per capita argument.

Rightoid politics force an alignment of socioeconomic disparities with the amde up concept of races to make an example and perpetuate their politics.

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>>2855461
It's hard to argue with chuddery. If you really want to try to appeal to reason though maybe the ecological fallacy. Like yeah per capita (American) black men shoot people at higher rates (that's what we're talking about right?) because of growing up in the hood but that just collapses completely if you randomly pick on any individual black guy. (Which the police really do.) It's something you learn in a statistics 101 class, not even re: race or politics specifically, it's just a problem about inference from population-level data but it usually applies to people.

Also chuddery is an interally contradictory ideological formation in an ironic paradox sort of way, in that it tends to make what they don't like into a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like Hitler is going to save the white race whoops Hitler just killed millions of white people and destroyed Germany! That is an especially catastrophic example and it's a bit weird of an argument to make since it's almost like making it from the far right but still, that did happen. But in the U.S. context you have white flight, disinvestment, mass incarceration and otherwise the state fashioning black men as a criminal enemy sort of class. Huh gee now these people are really good at hitting licks and evading detection, but you made them that way.

Third thing is more psychological. If people from different "races" encounter each other and have negative experiences, that isn't good. But I think people need to get out and explore and meet different people. Often once you do you realize it's not such a bad deal. You also develop a more accurate understanding, because what you're afraid of is probably not going to kill you, it's something like a vehicle accident or drowning in a pool that will kill you. Also mosquitos have a massive death toll on humans worldwide.

There are war correspondents who went to to war-torn West African countries 20 years ago and filmed child soldiers ripping people's hearts out. That is a bad deal but those kids are like soldiers who are proud of that and want to show off to the white man with the camera, so he wasn't actually in as much danger thank you might have thought. Also battle casualties weren't as high as you might think either because of the style of warfare. It's not that the chuds are pussies necessarily (just kidding a lot of them are) but tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2855461
direct them to Richard Hanania, a former white nationalist who now spends most of his time pointing out all the ways that conservatism has a "human capital" problem.
(and also highlighting groups like indians are, statistically, model minorities in every way except being brown… so naturally they're loathed because chuddery is about feelings over facts.)



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Communists would do better if they realised that Gorbachev wasn't a traitor. He was a comically committed Leninist and he got most of his worst ideas (like basically every move to empower the different nations of the USSR, which would ultimately lead to them all leaving, or his economic policies, which were inspired by the NEP) from reading Lenin. He destroyed the USSR not because he saw the light of neoliberalism and converted, but because he believed he could recover its "true" origins before it became corrupted and stagnant.

This doesn't tell us anything about Lenin, who had been dead for decades, but it does tell you where LARPing as Lenin and treating Lenin like the biblical truth will take you. You have to understand the situation as it actually exists in the here and now, not by shoehorning it in to the texts of long dead heroes. Your analyses should start from reality and work towards useful predictions, rather than starting from dogma and working towards reconciling it with reality.

Gorbachev's failure is substantially worse in light of his loyalty to the cause.
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>>2853969
>Gorbachev’s presidency had other unintended consequences. Nursultan Nazarbayev, the fifty-year-old Party head of the Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic, who had effusively supported Gorbachev, suddenly announced he would become the President of Kazakhstan. Two weeks later, the Party head of Uzbekistan, Islam Karimov, said the same. Gorbachev reacted with genuine surprise: “How come? Without any advice and consent . . . I thought we had agreed . . . that there would be only one president in the country.” Karimov calmly replied: “It is the wish of the people.” Nazarbayev intoned: “People in Kazakhstan also say: can’t we have a president too?” Gorbachev then lamely agreed. Thus, he had recog-nized the right of the republican potentates to change the republican constitu-tion in the same way the Kremlin had done.
Do kind of feel bad for him sometimes lmao

>>2853969
exactly, but i think its a stretch to say he had the best of intentions. he was mainly ego-driven and wanted to be remembered as a great-man savior, a position that led him farther towards seeking out western and imperialist clout the more that the western media and diplomats humored him. the funniest part is the US & NATO didnt even particularly want, let alone expect, the USSR to collapse. better to have a unified 2nd rate power to equal parts exploit & compete against. not to say that the US didnt quickly jump on the decaying corpse of the soviets ofc.

that said i do pity him, hard not to when you read how regularly he fucked things up or stuck his head in the sand. i dont think he wanted things to be worse, my guess is that he just didnt have a sense of the real stakes involved & was equal parts delusional and self absorbed. he definitely wasnt the only incompetent moron high in soviet politics, and not the most incompetent, but there were also more competent and intelligent people trying to course correct at so many moments. and he climbed and sweet-talked for the job for most of his life. i feel pity just at the second hand embarassment but also incredulity & disgust

>>2854920
i think you're both being too charitable to gorbachev's intentions and not appreciating the direction he walked through the river, let alone its thick mud and strong currents, gorbachev's biggest ideological inspiration toward the end was social democracy (late perestroika, new union treaty, 500 days programmem etc.) and both this and many of his failures are not entirely his but can also be laid at the feet of the soviet system that, even outside of it's disregard to even some of the most basic tenants of marx/engles' socialism, was byzantine and filled with self-interested bureaucrats and careerists, the very same that strangled ogas

>>2854953
yeah wasnt even my intention to be particularly charitable but i get your point. im not even sure he sincerely believed in his brand of social democracy any more than he did his earlier brand of leninism. but if you read his later interviews and statements and can get past has contemptible his refusal of any accountability is, he did seem genuinely dishearted by the dissolution and the state of the former union states in the 90s going forward. thats not sympathetic but it does make him a bit more pitiable as a historical "character" compared to completely unfeeling snakes like yeltsin

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>>2853969
>presidency

It needs to be said, that the office of President, was a pure Gorbachev creation, on the advice the traitor-wrecker Alexander Yakovlev. Yakovlev has advocated for a presidency multiple times, he got his wish in 1990.

There is a story of Yakovlev telling Anatoly Chernyaev, [in said man's diary], of Yakovlev convincing Gorbachev, of changing the political system, and taking loans from western countries.

>The Diary of Anatoly Chernyaev: January 28, 1990


Chernyaev: On Monday there was PB, discussing the “CPSU Platform” composed by Skakh and me and edited by M.S. The level [of discussion] is hopelessly bad. Although Egor did “quiet down” and was not too aggressive, though he did say that he is strongly opposed to “a multiparty system.”

By the way, M.S. picked new secretaries for the PB: Usmanov, Stroev, Girenko, Manaenkov, etc. “Good guys.” But they shouldn’t be above the level of a mid-level oblast committee. Why should they be in the highest echelon? He himself keeps talking about intellectual potential!

We spent the whole day in his office. He did not give up his positions on the multi-party system and private property, but ordered that we make it “more rounded.” He agreed with me that the term “Marxism-Leninism” should not be allowed into the Platform.

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A thread for the forgotten continent, so forgotten the thread got wiped.
Discuss anything related to:
>Algeria
>Angola
>Benin
>Botswana
>Burkina Faso
>Burundi
>Cabo Verde
>Cameroon
>Central African Republic (CAR)
>Chad
>Comoros
>Congo, Democratic Republic of the
>Congo, Republic of the
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>>2853515
Yeah I can't believe the private military contractors named after a Third Reich unit made up of the dregs of Russian society who are running blood gold mines would be fascists and do warcrimes. How utterly unbelievable.

>>2853772
Who do you think is backing the Tuaregs, and why do you think they'd try to trigger your knee jerk reaction against the forces of a government that recently kicked out the Nato forces occupying it, you fucking dipshit?

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>>2855136
>the burkinabé chief of state ibrahim traoré received with great pomp the israeli ambassador to ivory coast who is equally accredited to represent israel with benin, togo and burkina faso. this visit happens as israel looks to deepen its links with the sahel including with mali who started secret negotiations with israel several months ago with the help of the uae and morocco

>>2855136
Thank you AES ally UAE for this gift to the african peoples!
Soon the the AES Egyptian military will critically escort the IDF into the last districts of Palestine to crush terrorism and safeguard peace and harmony under the PLO two state solution!



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I've had enough of watching these Zionist assholes get away with everything. I'm ready to hear you all out and I've got a foot out the door into being a communist. What are your solutions?
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you've got a lot of reading to do

>>2855120
Communism is literally everything rethuglican propaganda says it is

Don't ask people here about communism, it's like astrology shit here.

>>2855112
>What are your solutions?
War of national liberation against israel. If youre talking abous jewSA instead the problem seems to be evangelical christians corrupted by israel.

>>2855112
>these Zionist assholes
Capitalists are also bad even if they aren't zionists



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After bombardment and popular resistance | Israeli forces withdraw from Abdin and residents return home
According to SOHR sources, tense calm has been prevailing in the village since morning, after the withdrawal of Israeli forces from positions they had been stationed at Al-Moghor hill. Yesterday, Israeli forces advanced into those positions and established several tents, amid public rejection and movements by the region’s residents. Residents of Abiden Village later intercepted the Israeli patrols and threw stones on them, while several young men closed the road between Jamalah and Abiden Village by placing stones on the road.
https://www.syriahr.com/en/383820/

Syrian parliament set to announce Sharaa's pick of 70 MPs, amid hopes for greater representation
The appointment of the 70 MPs comes after the president, in March 2025, signed a constitutional declaration stating there would be a five-year transitional period, with a 210-member parliament where he directly appoints one-third of the members. The rest are chosen indirectly through electoral committees.
https://www.newarab.com/news/syrian-parliament-set-announce-sharaas-pick-70-mps

UN chief says UN agency for Palestinian refugees nearing 'breaking point'
The U.N. has said it fired nine UNRWA staff who may have been involved in the October 2023 attack, which killed about 1,200 Israelis and foreign nationals. A Hamas commander in Lebanon, killed in September by Israel, was also found to have had a UNRWA job. The U.N. has disputed links with Hamas and vowed to investigate all accusations.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2026/06/un-chief-says-un-agency-palestinian-refugees-nearing-breaking-point

Thousands gather in anti-migrant demonstration in South Africa
THOUSANDS of demonstrators gathered in parts of South Africa yesterday to protest against migrants living in the country without documentation, in the biggest such action since violence over the issue broke in 2008. ThPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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India’s Cockroach Janta Party: a lightning rod for Gen Z rage
“Those in power think citizens are cockroaches and parasites. They should know that cockroaches breed in rotten places. That’s what India is today.” These are the words of Abhijeet Dipke, founder of the Cockroach Janta Party (CJP) – the ‘Cockroach People’s Party’, a play on Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s ruling Bharatiya Janta Party (BJP), the ‘Indian People’s Party’. In just a few days, the party garnered over 22 million followers on Instagram, 220,000 followers on X, signed up one million members, and has the ruling BJP government terrified. What started as a satirical online joke has become a lightning rod for the profound anger and indignation of India’s youth that is terrifying our rotten ruling class.
https://marxist.com/india-s-cockroach-janata-party-a-lightning-rod-for-gen-z-rage.htm

Left must not give Burnham a blank cheque
Burnham himself is a blank piece of paper onto which everyone in Labour projects what they most want to see. He was firmly in the New Labour mainstream during the Blair-Brown governments, lurched to the right during his own leadership bid in 2015 but then reinvented himself as an interventionist mayor in Manchester, within the considerable limitations of the post. In recent weeks, as he was seeking election in Makerfield, he articulated a range of positions – on standing up to the bond market, on electoral reform, on justice for the Waspi women – only to walk them back almost immediately. Given that Keir Starmer was partially undone by his endless U-turns, this is hardly reassuring, given that Burnham has not even been subjected to the full-force pressure of vested interest that will be brought to bear on him in Downing Street.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/left-must-not-give-burnham-blank-cheque

Pride: From Stonewall to Social Revolution
Every June, politicians, corporations and state institutions wrap themselves in rainbow colours and speak of diversity and inclusion. Yet the history of Pride did not begin in boardrooms or parliament. It began in resistance. The Stonewall upPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2855086
Millions

Tybna!

>Egg producers will pay $3.3M and donate 53 milliouyghs to settle price fixing claims

<milliouyghs

>>2855167
>>2855167
Kek the filter does it again



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Now that the dust has settled, what the hell happened on january 6th, 2021 again? There was one woman shot dead by capitol police, there was 4 other Trumptards that died that day. Hundreds were injured. One cop later died after being maced only to die of an unrelated cause sometime later. A bunch of obese fat Trumptards stormed the rotunda with Confederate flags. It was like a crappy b movie.
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>>2854111
>class anger
Small capitalist anger

Porky shocktrooper down

>>2854126
Left one not bad either

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>>2854098
>what the hell happened on january 6th, 2021 again?
A literal inside job just like 9/11. It was allowed to happen. Cops let the putschists in. Vid related.
>>2854550
>Democrats not executing the enablers and organizers was such a cuck moment.
That would require them to not be liberals.

It’s right up there with the Kirk assassination as a peak news day. Man do I wish more died though, what a shame.



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South Africa status???

>>2847602
reads more like right wing jibber jabber but with "bourgeois" thrown in tbh



>>2854809
let the retard enjoy pride how he wants



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WILLKOMENSKULTUR IST VORBEI edition

>“The age of Willkommenskultur is over, the era of mass deportations has begun,” commented the Sweden Democrats party, whose MEP Charlie Weimers played a central role as ECR’s shadow rapporteur.

>In a rare show of unity on the European Right, the directive was adopted not only by the national conservative groups (PfE, ECR, and ESN) but also the EPP, which votes together with the leftist parties in the vast majority of cases.
>Most importantly, the new law will introduce a mutual recognition and enforcement obligation between member states regarding deportation orders, meaning migrants cannot circumvent return decisions by moving to a different EU country and restarting the process. A return order in one country will legally count as a valid order in all of them.
>Another important point is the introduction of third-country return hubs, making it possible for member states to externalize return procedures by sending migrants to secure facilities outside EU territory to wait for the end of the process, ensuring they won’t escape implementation once the paperwork’s done.

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>>2849953
>>2848660
Remember to high five them with a mace on your hand

>>2851297
Funny thing is that, if so-called “race science” was real, then they would be 100% justified in taking welfare, on the top of affirmative action and DEI being justified too. I mean, you never see these chuds ever question gender quotas despite biological differences between males and females being greater than that between ethnicities save for extreme examples like the Congolese pygmies.

Then again, the average chud is just a shitlib so don’t expect consistency from them.

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in europe, the ac is turned off when it gets too hot

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>>2854630
Why even go on twitter any more, it's just everyone trying to bait everyone all the time

>>2854642
probably has to do with the fact that bitcoin has been steadily going down for the last year or so



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Rights groups criticise Turkey protest ban ahead of Nato summit
Last week, the Ankara Governorate announced a 13-day province-wide ban on all public assemblies from Sunday, citing “national security" and security measures around the conference.
A total of 225 people were also arrested, including alleged supporters of the leftist Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C) and the Islamic State group. Other detainees included academic Emel Memis, LGBTQ rights activist and journalist Yildiz Tar, environmental NGO Tema Foundation representative Nevzat Ozer, independent labour union Umut-Sen spokesperson Burcu Arikan, and Progressive Lawyers Association lawyers Semra Demir and Kursat Bafra.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/rights-group-criticise-turkey-protest-ban-ahead-nato-summit

Iraq detains politicians, officials in anti-corruption crackdown
Zaidi, who took office ​in May, has pledged to tackle entrenched corruption, which remains one of Iraq's ​most persistent challenges despite repeated promises by successive governments to hold officials accountable. Sunday's ⁠operation was launched on his direct orders after judicial authorities issued arrest warrants targeting what ​the sources described as suspected corruption networks.
https://www.reuters.com/world/iraq-arrests-politicians-government-officials-anti-corruption-crackdown-2026-06-28/

Israel finds new breakaway allies in Bosnia's Serbs
Cooperation between Serb and Israeli leaders has increased noticeably of late. In March 2025, Netanyahu held talks in Jerusalem with Milorad Dodik, then-president of Republika Srpska. In January this year, Dodik, who was removed from office in June 2025, met with Netanyahu once again. In May, not long after it was announced that Serbia and Israel would jointly produce combat drones, Serbia’s Foreign Minister Marko Djuric announced a strategic partnership with Israel during a visit to Jerusalem. . . .
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Petro maintains leadership role on Colombia’s left
The two leaders met at the Casa de Nariño in response to the loss of the elections to the far-right candidate, which led to fighting among the leftist coalition that formed around the Historic Pact party to support Cepeda’s candidacy.Gustavo Petro and Senator Ivan Cepeda will jointly lead the political opposition to President-elect Abelardo de la Espriella, they announced after a meeting at the presidential palace. In a post on social media platform X, Cepeda said that Petro “is our supreme leader and the architect of the first progressive government.”
https://colombiareports.com/petro-maintains-leadership-role-on-colombias-left/

Colombian Forces Destroy 81 Illegal Mining Operations in the Choco Department
The Army stated that the action directly impacts the illicit economies of the Clan del Golfo, also known as the Gaitanista Army of Colombia (EGC), considered the largest criminal organization in the country. According to military intelligence, the Clan del Golfo obtains part of its income from illegal mining in the Colombian Pacific region, in addition to drug trafficking, extortion, and armed territorial control.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/colombian-forces-destroy-81-illegal-mining-operations-in-the-choco-department/

El Salvador's Bukele seeks party nod for third term after constitutional change
El Salvador President Nayib Bukele has registered to seek his party's nomination for the 2027 ​presidential election, pursuing a third term after allies in ‌Congress changed the constitution to allow indefinite re-election, the head of the ruling Nuevas Ideas party said on Sunday.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/el-salvadors-bukele-seeks-party-nod-third-term-after-constitutional-change-2026-06-29/

Collapsed hospitals and morgues raise health fears in Venezuela's earthquake zone
The emergency Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

(TrueAnon)Episode 558: Zone Time
We’re joined by Natasha Dow Schüll to talk about GAMBLING, MONEY, The Machine Zone, the Ludic Loop, and MORE.
https://www.patreon.com/TrueAnonPod/posts/episode-558-zone-162397774


Josip Broz Tito: Concerning the National Question and Social Patriotism
What are the phenomena of nationalism? Here are some of them: 1) National egoism, from which many other negative traits of nationalism are derived, as for example — a desire for foreign conquest, a desire to oppress other nations, a desire to impose economic exploitation upon other nations, and so on; 2) national-chauvinism which is also a source of many other negative traits of nationalism, as for example national hatred, the disparagement of other nations, the disparagement of their history, culture, and scientific activities and scientific achievements, and so on, the glorification of developments in their own history that were negative and which from our Marxist point of view are considered negative. And what are these negative things? Wars of conquest are negative, the subjugation and oppression of other nations is negative, economic exploitation is negative, colonial enslavement is negative, and so on. All these things are accounted negative by Marxism and condemned. All these phenomena of the past can, it is true, be explained, but from our point of view they can never be justified. In a socialist society such phenomena must and will disappear. In the old Yugoslavia national oppression by the great-Serb capitalist clique meant strengthening the economic exploitation of the oppressed peoples. This is the inevitable fate of all who suffer from national oppression. In the new, socialist Yugoslavia the existing equality of rights for all nationalities has made it impossible for one national group to impose economic exploitation upon another. That is because hegemony of one national group over another no longer exists in this country. ….
https://www.marxists.org/archive/tito/1948/11/26.htm


Earthquakes in Venezuela Show Consequences of State Neglect, Social Inequality, and Imperialism
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Tybna



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>be an army of maybe 6,000 commandos
>raid Israel after breaching the Gazan border with motorcycles, pickup trucks and paragliders/hangliders
>armed with broken guns, black market AKs made in some Chinese factory, S5 unguided rockets fired from a makeshift "SAMS" tube made from construction pipes inside buildings to attack low flying helicopters and boats, roadside bombs and so on
>wins and kills 1,200 zionists
>then engages in the bloody Gaza War, which turns the world against Israel, including America and unites the muslim world with now Türkiye coming to Gaza's aide
>after destroying and flattening Gaza and shooting starving children rushing for food, what's left of Hamas is likely in the hundreds compared to tens of thousands prior to the war
>Houthis hijack the Galaxy Leader Israeli cargo ship in the Red Sea, taking 25 hostages
>Iran goes to war with Israel in 2024
>Israel goes to war with Hezbollah starting in 2024
>2 US Navy SEALs drown in the Arabian Sea off the coast of Somalia while en route to stop the shipments of Iranian weapons and hardware to the Houthis
>Hezbollah drone strikes Benjamin Netanyahu's house
>Thomas Crooks shoots Donald Trump in the head, nicking his ear, killing an audience member, wounding two others before a Secret Service sniper returned fire and killed him (RIP)
>3 US soldiers are killed in Jordan by a Houthi drone
>Assad's government gets toppled by Ankara-aligned rebels from the FSA
>Iran goes to war with the US in 2024 and 2026
We truly are living in the greatest timeline.

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>>2854198
Not so much great, more a return to the to the norm. Quite funny the best the USA were able to get out of unopposed hegemony was a few decades max.
>Türkiye coming to Gaza's aide
Lol. Lmao. They could have turned off the taps and stopped this at any point.

>>2854198
>unites the muslim world with now Türkiye coming to Gaza's aide
stopped reading

go back to plebbit pakistani cuckslamist

>>2854198
>with now Türkiye coming to Gaza's aide
Dont hold your breath waiting for this.



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