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Recently saw a discussion in regards to "Third Worldism" as in MLM + unequal exchange (a non-Wallerstinian branch of world systems theory) having grown in influence in the anglophone/western, largely online, "communist" spaces.
Here is my dialectical engagement, as they were on to something important, not usually recognized, but also partially incorrect. I attempt to correct it ITT.

Unequal exchange, Mao/Chinese aesthetics and purely performative MLM rhetoric has grown in recent years… But with time comes change.

The original 90s ThirdWorldism "movement", centered in north-america diverged from MLM on a variety of theoretical issues, most crucially the revolutionary nature of the proletariat. They supplemented their divergence with integrating post-Marxist turns happening in word-systems theory (which was ongoing in western academia between the 80s and 90s). As ""Maoism" ThirdWorldism" largely accomplished nothing, other than maybe increasing confusion in the communist movement during the era of blackest reaction, we mostly remember them by their cartoony writing and online media available through archives from that era.

So if 90s Third Worldism was a north-american revisionist offshoot from MLM which integrated non-Wallerstinian unequal exchange theory and rejecting revolution in the imperial core for rhetorical "support" of [far off, peripheral countries]… What are the particularities of the contemporary expression?

2020s Third Worldism can be observed as being a north-american right-wing revisionist movement which retains both the non-Wallerstinian unequal exchange theory and the purely symbolic appeals to Mao, but now replacing the "MLM" pretender framing for the simpler, safer state ideology of social-imperialist China; that also just so happens to feign adherence to 'Mao Zedong Thought', even after it was systematically replaced with the Bukharinist-Dengist capitulationist counterrevolution. which is continued today, the true basis for Xi Jinping Thought, as the bureaucrat-monopoly capitalist heading the political line of the party has only deepened the cementation of a new pole in the capitalist imperialist world system since Deng, when neither as many NEZ, stock markets, overall % of bourgeois in the party or billionaires existed in China. Mao Zedong Thought lives on in the rural and urban areas of any militant area of the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2839102
grim and drop site are libs
but "promotes" doesnt mean much

yawnnnn more third turdism, and maoposting. tldr

I knew this thread would age like wine.

<[The best Marxism-Leninism can offer]

>>2758901
Ok, lib.



 

Is the whole boomer vs. gen X vs. millennial vs. zoomer thing simply another form of false consciousness?

For example, someone born in 1986 and someone born in 1994 are both “millennials” but someone born in 1997 is a “zoomer” even though someone born in 1994 has a life experience much more like someone born in 1997 than they do someone born in 1986. Likewise, we don’t even know how to define when certain generations end or begin. Is the cut-off for boomers 1963, 1964, or 1965? To what extent does it matter?

It seems like scapegoating “boomers” for everything has become a popular thing to do on social media and I have to ask why is blaming the older generation somehow worthwhile? “Boomers were the hippies who ended up becoming conservative and voting for Reagan” — that doesn’t explain the material factors that lead to the rise of Reagan and neoconservatism in the first place. You can’t simply “blame boomers” when “boomer” exists in a materialist context. Likewise, you can’t blame Gen Xers and millennials for being “vain” or whatever when Gen Xers and millennials also faced material conditions beyond their control. So why are we placing blame on generations? Does it make any sense to do this?
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>>2838392
Agreed. I would talk to other people about Pokémon at school. Then I would watch the show and play the game later. It was a social experience that made Pokémon so succesful.

>>2838577
Gamergate was the “Franz Ferdinand” moment that ended up causing millions of millennial and zoomer men to embrace literal Nazism.

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>>2838598
>>2838683
You /pol/tards can give current and future generation /leftypol/ as well as insurance companies some risk relief by killing yourselves before you get old, preferably asap. Acknowledging your free will to save costs some insurance prick might even give you a free pass for using cutting edge western euthanasia tech if you ask nicely.

all generations suck equally, yet differently.

Hot take: boomers get too much hate, gen Xers get too little hate.

Gen Xers (1964-1980) are by far the most right-wing generation. We all like to denounce boomers as “the hippies who voted for Reagan” when gen Xers are largely the anti-globalization vegan punks who ended up voting for Trump. And just like how the Reaganite Neocon-Neoliberal-Evangelical alliance was about making conservatism appeal to hippies, Trumpism is conservatism that appeals to CrimethInc-reading, organic-food eating types. There’s a reason why so many people who were “leftists” back in the 90s-2000s ended up jumping ship for Trump in 2016.



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>>2852057
You may say
<bbbut I am someone who takes my ideology seriously and attempts to separate ego from the theory and practice, to truly hone it like a blade in the present moment!

But you don't. You refuse to budge with your rigid beliefs because it was the only way you could make friends on the internet. It was the relgio that gave you meaning when you were at your lowest point, and without it you would feel empty, and as if you'd wasted all these years being "different" and feeling like you know the real truth behind history and politics.

But you're just some guy.

>>2852057
it's the real movement to abolish the present state of things (it can never be more specific than that, because that would obligate me to do something specific)

>>2851303
You pissed off some capitalists anon. Good work.

>>2852021
>framing the Bible as a historical document
everything is historical. I hope pastafarism to rise again.

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>>2852005
>>2851835


Those detection tools don't work for text the way they do for images, and I have bad news, I wrote that word for word. These A.I text detections have high error rates and are essentially a scam. The A.I image detection works. You responded to none of the argument. Instead, you tried to lazily discredit a materialist analysis by questioning whether it was AI-generated. That's deflection. You'd be better off not responding, but it appears you have an agenda of discrediting Juche thought. You're avoiding the content, trying to undermine it without actually confronting it. That's not going to work. Try again, pussy.

>>2851904
>claims to be materialist
>immediately goes full on metaphysics

You are one of the biggest jokes here, right up there with CPUSA anon in terms of federal energy. Western leftist pea brains have been accusing Juche of metaphysics and anti‑Marxism for decades now, a tired, ossified critique that betrays a complete inability to read past the first paragraph of a text. But thankfully, our education has shifted the terrain. North Korea now commands near‑widespread leftist support in the West, despite the best efforts of your intellectual sludge to prevent it. The tide has turned, and you've already been swept under. Keep up, or step aside.



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>>2838086
I'm sorry, "We" are "Winning" by "Doing Nothing"? While the US secures every single node in your dubious tactic of Belt and Road outside of the China-Russia-Iran triangle, two of which are extremely vulnerable (entrenching the quarantine 1*, compounding power asymmetry 2*)
1: how's that worked out for all ML states so far? it is the most lethal and you invite it? who's playing who? "do nothing win" may be the CIA's most successful meme and you drooling suburban Californian MLs love it
2: speedrunning the later decades of the USSR are we? Ah yes China winning hard by events in Caribbean (only stable core of their LatAm strategy)
Great that you now have allies like UAE and Egypt in BRICS after Assad (oops, guess he wasn't immortal, but Ben didn't make a vid no that :( curious) Bright days ahead in west Asia, the key geostrategic zone for the Belt and Road pipe dream to come into effect (connecting asia to africa and latin america) as all arab states in the region let the the zionists "finish the job" for their bottom line.
Chinese chauvinism made them get kicked out of Sahel too, you think South Africa can carry the continent by itself?
As yankees now pivot from Asia to LatAm (Japan, Philippines, Thailand, India, Nepal, Afghanistan, """East Turkestan""", socfash Mongolia) and the British Commonwealth in the timezone - "looking good") and LatAm most already having been made subservient following US successful drug networks wrecking the straight line from Mexico to Brazil; "pink wave" reformists predictably walking on crates went and made themselves associated to drugs and are now stuck in a alt-right malaise for the foreseeable future (you say "look at andean region"). The entire continent is a settler-colonial project that already accomplished its task. Arab populations can't even find the bourgeois nationalism in them in the late stage of capitalist imperialism to free their Palestinians brothers and sisters from the first phases of their genocide. Iran is doing what it's doing purely for regional competition with the Isaraelis and Gulf Arabs. Every single west asian sunni arab zionist state standing firm, no arab spring 2 but arab nationalist.

You are as politically relevant as a radlib and your class collaborationism makes you but another obstacle in the way of proletarian revolution.
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>>2839026
You are mentally retarded enough to believe that China would provide one of the greatest US dicksuckers in the region, one of their staunchest opponents, with significant amounts of weaponry to crush an insurgent group that, if they successfully overthrew the PH government, could only benefit China's regional power projection. It is you who is brain damaged, not anyone else.

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pretty much

I think china is still banking for NEH and to be frank they WILL win if chuddha is right and NEH is the true noble path to nirvana

it's also why suddenly western porky has been trying to make everything happen at the same time

who will win? who knows, but most thirdie proles and a section of firstoid workers will definitely lose everything they have and then some

4 more years

Bumping in light of Cuba, 2026, June



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"Controversial" opinion incoming, apparently:
Both Mao and Bordiga were mostly correct in their views and positions, but for their respective material and social conditions they were working within. Semi-feudal conditions for Mao, capitalist-imperialist conditions for Bordiga.
Dogmatic ML: "We need a vote for progress and safeguard our democracy" (Togliatti? Starmer? Mélenchon? Harris?) Jump through hoops to safeguard bourgeois dictatorship in the west some more, ML. That is the role which you have picked for yourself. Really give it a bright red, bleeding heart radical liberal veneer!
Trend victim MLs have tried to mechanically copy-pasting semi-feudal tactics to industrialized, proletarian-majority, imperialist-capitalist countries for a century. "Too bad" their demise always has some self-defeating aspect to it, predicted by the Italian Left (or more descriptively: internationalist Leninists) decades in advance.
>But they were said to be irrelevant! At least that's what our "ML", then "Soviet-alligned", then "eurocom" leaders told us, and they headed a parliamentary party with a lot of members and voters, so they must've known what they were talking about!…right?…
There, there!
Hence internationalist Leninist tactics are not applied! Hence Lenin's revolutionary tactical invariance leading up to the key lesson for success is obscured, papered over – all to focus on the set of retreats, mistakes, fallacious tactics that led in a circle or self-obliteration. That is the "Leninism" of the western ML.
The stinky successful early stuff? It is your duty to slander and castigate the Evil "UlTrAs" for re-centering…

Now tell me: Are you finding yourselves amid semi-feudal or capitalist-imperialist conditions as you're browsing this post, anons?
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>>2835321
>>2835319
get a job softhands

>>2835345
More callouses and burns than you’ll ever have

>>2835385
as we've established your unemployed, video of me at work at the callous factory btw

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>>2835516
Which he said to an informant while under surveillance in fascist Italy, after the Comintern had bent over backwards to secure their rise with giving the keys to Togliatit. But how would you know, you don't read on principle (trve ML).



 

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>>2847676
This despite the thread consensus being the exact opposite for a good dozen weeks now… What about the journalists or the writer of the article specifically

>>2841768
your cynical joke may yet be a reality. There are significant amounts of armed militia that dont see eye to eye with the new direction of the govt. There is also a chavista presence in the army, lots of anons are dooming hard over this rn but I dont think things in venezuela are over yet


how is trump going to deal with the literal collapse of venezuela?

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I'm not American but my gf is. At her work she has a bunch of lesbians who tell her about attending DSA meetings. She says they do cool shit like consoom ethically under gabidalism, only buy fair trade stuff, run coops, do community outreach etc and try to be as little of an autistic political bickering club as possible. However at the same time I see a bunch of shilling that the DSA is extremely anti-White, and the fact that the only local chapter I've heard about first-hand is full of dyed-hair lesbians (who are pretty much always spiteful and militant especially towards White guys) along with the sperging about skeletons in the closet of the one prominent White guy their movement was even able to get (Platner) to seem "relatable" to White guys leads me to suspect that these people are not actually the friends of working class White men. I get the feeling that, if they get their full way after the zionist conservative billionaires controlling the other side of American politics are done squandering all public goodwill towards themselves, it will be open season on all cracKKKKers and their shit across the West as a rainbow coalition of crusty mutated-looking baizuo, Americanised 4b feminists, the couple hundred million browns inside the West and every other brown piece of shit from the third world that wants to waltz in will be permitted to work their way towards a pogrom against all working class White "settlers" while the porkies and yids that are actually responsible for the problems they're worked up over just lock up their gated communities, move their gigafactories to India or take a plane back to Israel.

This is probably the result of anti-DSA shilling, and of course I have nothing but contempt for ziocons and the orange pedophile, but at the same time I've interacted with pro-Palestine protests/groups with a self-proclaimed "socialist" bent in my own country and they mostly seem to oppose Israel because they think they are White cracKKKer colonisers and worship anyone with brown skin. To what extent is the DSA made up of people who would actively cheer if I got hacked to death by a random naked Haitian for no reason unless I parroted their talking points constantly and painted my nails weird colours?
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>>2851952
I would argue that the "theater" of this round of orange man deportations is getting people galvanized, with many people realizing that the immigration "enforcement" and cops are one in the same, especially with the cops establishing cordons around raids in an attempt to protect the agents.
Also, how did any of the communist revolts or revolutions before the period of decolonization happen without socially-constructed edification of their own biology?

>>2851959
I’m not saying it would be a good thing, I’m saying it’s an ahistorical and utterly unrealistic thing. Again, maybe we should focus on eliminating the existing bigotries before worrying about which new ones might come along.

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>>2851871
Very true

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People who think being an edgelord misanthrope is realism are just as bad and annoying as hopecore polyannas

>>2851767
…what?



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I bet my good friend Donald Trump has done Israel’s bidding and went to war so you’d focus on all the dead children in Iran instead of in the files. It’s pretty crazy, I thought for sure the “thanks for the torture video” emails would put an end to my cabal but it looks like they aren’t even touching Wexner. Well I gotta get back to haunting Steve Bannon. Every morning I soak his scalp in some vegetable oil from the kitchen, it’s a great laugh when he doesn’t just give up on showering.

What's the deeeal with child porn?

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>>2851957
Nice try FBI, but you cannot smear Chairman Jeffery on this board.
LONG LIVE MARXISM-EPSTEINISM!



 

Awesome! I hope the plane took out some financial scum. By the looks of it there was a fire so I hope as many of those imperialist bourgeois pigs were roasted in it. It's a shame the whole building wasn't taken down but the plane was too small. People should start crashing like cargo jets (since then it is a victimless attack apart from some cleaners and other workers in the building) into financial office skyscrapers in order to start culling the bourgeois where they are at their most concentrated in imperialist countries like China or the U$A.

Pardon the conspiracy but 9/11 never happenned ;)

>>2851856
There can be capitalism without bourgeoisie though. The so called phase D. Engels wrote about this. You are a lib.

>>2851860
I was never saying it would end capitalism but it would make the conditions more favourable for revolution. You are a lib for caring about the financial bourgeois's lives.

>>2851856
sounds like it was an accident bro

>>2851856
Two window panels were damaged. Its over for Deng bros.



 

The replies of thread >>2766805 have been so poor I intended to make a new thread, giving a historical overview of the last few decades of the communist movement.

>What is the difference between:

>Mao Zedong Thought [ML-MZT]
>Maoism-ThirdWorldism [M3W]
<Missing: >Classical Marxism-Leninism-Maoism [classical MLM]. Exemplified by Communist Party of the Philippines and Communist Party of India (Maoist) as key leaders and influences.
>Gonzalo Thought [aka "MLM-pM" and "Gonzaloism"]
>How interrelated are they?

Comrades. don't forget these tools:
<Historical materialism.
<General-Particular-General dialectical spiral in analysis.
<Never capitulate proletarian leadership to reactionary classes.
<Analyze the contradictory relationship of petty-bourgeois ideology to scientific socialism-communism throughout time, which always ends just yesterday.

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>>2790329
like as in occupy wall street?

>>2777121
Thanks for pointing it out.
He ended the perior unpopular as Boluarte in recent times but alive. Check video.
Only putting Mlm as THE communist movement seems to me the most reductive way to see history in the last decades. Specially since is another boat drowining in a sea of nothingness (writing this as the Cuban capitulate to the gringos for the X time in the decade and the chinese "sociailism with markets TM" is the only horse winning the race)

>>>/leftypol/2849563 related topic

yall just putting letters together at random

>>2850275
seems pretty deliberate to me

this is random:

daf;lisdj;fwilejfjslafnl;slghine[hoinowandfvins



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