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>Gigabazed Edition

A thread for the harmonious discussion related to the saviour of socialism, the uplifter of nations, the king of cooperation, the soviet of SOVL, the enjoyer of empathy, the ally of Africa, the demigod of development, the bureaucracy for banter, the prince of ping pong, the lobotomizer of labour aristocracy, the protector against proxy wars, the sponsor of sophisticated sciences and culture, the guarantor of gommunism, the Proletarian Dictatorship of Chynah™.

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China (And Iran BTFO's Drumpf's timeline) just saved Cuba:

>They are swapping their gas-guzzling 1950s American cars for electric motorcycles and rickshaws from China; importing hefty lithium batteries to keep televisions and fans running through blackouts; jury-rigging generators to run on more accessible natural gas; and installing solar panels on rooftops and even vehicles.

>The result is that Cuba has lasted far longer without fuel shipments than the Trump administration expected.
>After hearing about the oil blockade, Mr. Palmero learned on YouTube how to distill junk plastic into homemade gasoline and diesel. He has since built a tiny, makeshift refinery in his backyard to power his motorcycle and light his stove.
>“We look for solutions,” he said. “The economic restrictions are slowly killing us, but we’re pulling through with all our might, managing to get by until we see what happens next.”

>In Havana and beyond, the crisis’s effects were clear.

>We met families walking two hours for water because government pumps had run out of diesel. Women, lacking gas, cooked with firewood on the street. Powerless refrigerators became cabinets. Hitchhikers littered roadsides after the city halted public busing. And dozens of people told us they were simply exhausted after so many sleepless nights in the sweltering heat without fans or air-conditioning.

>Vehicles were on the road — despite black-market gasoline reaching $30 a gallon — because many were electric. Restaurants were open for the few who could afford them, powered by rumbling generators out back. Hospitals, government buildings and the airport had power because they were on protected parts of the grid. Medical clinics, nursing homes and bank branches ran off solar panels donated by China.

>Cell service was sometimes working. Televisions showing the World Cup were not hard to find. And even roadside stands were serving cold beer from refrigerators powered by the sun.

>While not everyone can afford alternative power sources, their energy has trickled down. Electric rickshaws ferry people to work. Solar panels have kept stores open. And people charge their phones and lanterns off their nei
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sort of offtopic but i think the horseshoe model and the left-right linear model and other models people invent for describing politics are fundamentally flawed, i mean if your linear model has to be amended into a circular horseshoe shape to better account for reality that ought to tell you that your whole conception of politics was bunk to begin with. before you can start drawing up a model you have to figure out where exactly the delineation is, what is the specific thing that people become politically divided over. personally i don't think it is about policy or structure, i think it is a psychological/epistemological division, it's about how people think and see the world and their place in it. i think the real fundamental difference is between people who think they are separate from the world and people who do not, between narcissism and humility. if a person thinks that one or a few elite rulers can and should decide the fate of the entire world, it doesn't really make any difference how the monarchy/vanguard rules or how they structure everything or what checks and balances they program in or how benevolent or malevolent they are, they have already stepped over the line from humble human beings to egomaniacal wannabe demigods just by believing that they have the right and the ability to wield such power, by believing that they are a higher observer outside of everything and that they aren't just a small insignificant locality in a vast system. the cruel nihilistic tyrant and the caring paternalistic tyrant are both still tyrants, and the latter kind of tyrant flips to the former kind in the blink of an eye.

Dengoids claim that Huawei is a socialist cooperative, but now I see it's a religious cult.

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Let it be known, that Zhu Rongji was an enemy of socialism, a rightist, a capitalist roader, and a neoliberal.

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>>2883881
It's harder to attain polytechnic education in the burgerreich than in China as a prole, but when it comes to developing the productive forces and "proletarization" I don't see how developing productive forces in USA differs from developing the productive forces in China. China is a communist party-state but the methods they use for developing productive forces still keep the class dynamics and the time horizon for Communism and comprehensively reworking those relations of productions is 100+ years, Xi said that himself
>the consolidation and development of the socialist system […] will require the tireless struggle of generations, up to ten generations (200ish years).
If Chinese approach of "communism must win but only after capacity of developing productive forces of capitalism (and every mixed system) will be exhausted" is correct then developing the productive forces in USA also would help global socialism, right?



 

🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<US of Amalek Edition



OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

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list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
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>>2890648
>irridescent langley infiltraitor
we should support are troops even if they're genocidal babykillers with nazi, klan, and punisher tattoos. you need to turn kkk members so avoid telling the truth to protect their feelings.

>sensible communist

<your government doesn't care about you GI, they sent you into the jungle to die. turn your weapon on your real enemy GI. there is nothing waiting for you at home but addiction and pain.

>>2890615
> telling them that they're being fucked over by porky and urging them turn on their leadership for their own sake. This is just mocking them and reveling in their suffering.
it was mocking them and urging them to be less mockworthy by turning on their masters.

>>2890666
>your government doesn't care about you GI, they sent you into the jungle to die. turn your weapon on your real enemy GI. there is nothing waiting for you at home but addiction and pain.
omg why are you mocking them and reveling in their suffering :(:(:(

>>2890628
>What even is this reformist dogshit?
huh?

>>2890585
>have never drawn that distinction either during or after WW1
Because the professionalization of the army wasn't as widespread. And it makes a difference whether the Estonian army consists of 3k volunteers ready to kill pillage and rape Russians or out of 30k mobiks that just want to go back to their home and grill. The 3k are never going to become communists. Out of the 30k, a good chunk might. See the difference? Different material conditions means also different theory you dumb bookish nerd. Muh comintern. Get a fucking grip, the thing doesn't exist for almost a 100 years a this point.



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The US empire collapsing doesn't necessarily mean that life will get worse for ordinary Americans.

Remember that Europe only achieved high standard of living and social democracy AFTER colonialism ended. And the Nordics never even had colonies in the first place.

In fact I consider this fact to be a disappointment because Americans will never be punished for their crimes.
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>And the Nordics never even had colonies in the first place
Well ackchyually…

>>2890803
This changes everything…

>>2890121
It's not that I believe it, but there is a kernel of truth to it in that having a large neocolonial empire obviously makes it easier to outsource class antagonism and maintain higher living standards for workers in the metropole. It's just that people apply this thinking far too rigidly and dogmatically, in the process essentially reproducing the bourgeois notion that there simply isn't enough global wealth to support universally high living standards.

>>2890834
this is a good sabo post, i was sad (and mad) when you yelled at me for being mean to the burger troops.

neutralpedos are we really posting on here GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG



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Hunger strike against inhumane conditions, forced labor and torture in Ukrainian prisons
On August 5, 162 Ukrainian prisoners, among them 92 political prisoners, engaged in a one-day hunger strike to protest inhumane conditions, torture and killings within the Ukrainian prison system. According to the website anti-imperialism.by, over 200 people from 15 other countries, including Russia, Turkey, Great Britain, Germany and Greece, joined the hunger strike. Some 50 left-wing activists and anti-fascists, as well as 20 relatives of political prisoners in Ukraine also joined the protest action.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/08/12/wbaq-a12.html

Putin threat pushes Germany to give spies major new powers
Under the proposed reform, spies working for Germany’s foreign intelligence agency, the BND, could carry out acts of sabotage, conduct offensive cyber operations and pursue more aggressive espionage operations. Until now, those spies have been limited to information-gathering operations due to intentional restraints put in place after World War II to prevent a repeat of the abuses perpetrated by the Nazi spy apparatus.
https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-to-give-spies-bnd-new-powers-to-counter-russia-threat/
https://archive.ph/4eaIY

Migrant workers liken zero-hour contracts to conditions during the Industrial Revolution
MIGRANT hospitality workers have likened zero-hours contracts to working conditions during Britain’s Industrial Revolution. The United Voices of the World (UVW) union said that conditions under the contracts are “very similar” to the long working hours, fines and low wages that were rife in the 1700s.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/migrant-workers-liken-zero-hour-contracts-conditions-during-industrial-revolution

UK Government Won’t Release Files on Israeli Firm ‘Meddling’ in ElectionPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Thomson Reuters Slammed for Deal That Gives ICE Access to Private Profiles of Tens of Millions of Americans
More than two dozen watchdog organizations are calling on Congress to investigate reports that the data broker Thomson Reuters is making its investigative database available to US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which they warn will make Americans vulnerable to Fourth Amendment violations.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/thomson-reuters-ice

Hospitals push for upfront payments as patient deductibles and out-of-pocket costs rise
Medical providers are collecting larger shares of what patients might owe at a time when rising deductibles mean patients are owing more for care. The preservice charge could be all or part of a remaining deductible, for example, or a sizable percentage of what the visit or treatment might cost. Those deductibles go up when hospital prices, drug costs, and labor expenses increase, as insurers try to slow premium growth by shifting more costs to patients.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hospitals-upfront-payments-rising-deductibles/

US Citizen Calls ICE ‘Unhinged’ After Agent Points Gun at Her
Footage recorded by American citizen Carolina Molina, which went viral earlier in the week, showed a masked federal immigration agent pointing a handgun at her an office parking lot in Falls Church, Virginia, as they detained two men.
https://www.newsweek.com/video-shows-ice-agent-pointing-gun-at-us-citizen-in-virginia-falls-church-12312508
https://archive.ph/ozWi8

US appeals court voids formula used to avert surprise medical bills
The case concerned the No Surprises Act, a 2020 law requiring ​healthcare providers and insurers to negotiate reimbursement rates themselves rather than stick patients with huge ​bills for out-of-network treatments, especially in emergencies. … Tuesday's majority sided ​with the providers in Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Fidel Castro at 100: History Has Absolved Him!: Nikos Mottas Editor-in-Chief of In Defense of Communism
It is against this background that Fidel Castro’s stature comes fully into view. The Cuban Revolution was not the work of one man. Revolutions are made by masses, through organized struggle and under concrete historical conditions. But denying Fidel’s exceptional role would be as absurd as reducing the Revolution to his personality. He became one of the giants of the revolutionary movement of the twentieth century not because history granted him some mystical quality, but because his life became inseparable from a revolution that overthrew Batista, confronted the Cuban bourgeoisie and U.S. imperialism, defended socialist power through extraordinary trials and placed a small Caribbean island on the side of peoples fighting colonialism, apartheid and imperialist domination across the world. Nor does Fidel need to be transformed into a saint. Marxism has no use for saints. He made mistakes; the Revolution made mistakes. Policies were corrected, experiments failed and contradictions were sometimes underestimated. The decisive historical question is not whether errors occurred, but which class interests were being fought, which power was being defended and in which direction Cuban society was struggling to advance. That question remains decisive today.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/08/fidel-castro-at-100-history-has-absolved-him.html

Defend the Cuban revolution! Defeat US imperialism! Fight for world socialism!
Emboldened by the immediate success of its January 3 attack on Venezuela, US imperialism has launched an unprecedented campaign of economic asphyxiation and military bullying of Cuba. The 60 year old blockade has been strengthened since the beginning of the year with a near complete oil blockade which has decimated Cuba’s ability to produce energy with devastating effects on the daily lives of millions. A systematic criminal and very effective campaign of secondary sanctions and diplomatic pressure has targeted all aspects of Cuba’s economy (tourism, mining, the export of medical services, shipping, trade). This is a brutal and cruel medieval siege with the aim of achieving surrender by hunger. Economic measures have been supplemented byPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

tyna



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The black panthers were LARPERS like any other maoist leaning group, but they were so good at LARPING that the neocon government believed them, and killed them. I believe LARPERS eventually get cointelpro'd, back then, and now, because the government is based on right wing lies, and being disconnected from what it means to be a leftist, and the LARP of the left fufills the fear fantasies of the right-wing idea of what it means to be leftwing. antifa is a huge example.

That’s also true of every other US based group after the civil war

Black Panthers were the only historically progressive thing to come out of the muttmerican left

t. leftcom

>>2889573
>muttmerican
>leftcom
The jokes write themselves

What's the difference between LARPers and Real Revolutionaries (TM)?

>>2890717
not knowing and not satisfying the success condition available according to the present condition the movement finds itself in, vs knowing it or at least satisfying it by luck



 

Does anyone else think the whole "NVE" thing that popped up a year or so ago is a dedicated psyop? It came completely out of nowhere despute the fact that violence with obscure motives has always been a thing yet recently all the news outlets are drumming about it and acting like its an ISIS tier threat. Is someone trying to start a new satanic panic or is this a way to make political attacks look likejust mentally ill people schizoing out?
Plus they dont even know what nihilism even means.
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Just a missguided form of class anger that's end reaction is usually a mass shooting.

>law enforcement agencies
Don’t care what illiterate porky shocktroopers think

>>2884896
All of those mass shooters have either a direct and/or indirect (via immediate family) connection to state militaries and security apparatuses.

>>2884896
The US populace is highly medicated. If that were the case the streets would be a warzone. I bet WITHOUT these medications (and other treats and pacificsation tools, screens, entertainment, music, porn, etc.) it would get much worse.

>>2890519
I don't think it's all pacification tbh. After all politics is done, what next? More politics? Happiness?

I'm referring to the arrival fallacy of course. Unless an individual has an idea of their own retirement from politics, they possess Yukio Mishima's bullshido madness >>2885001

Bruce Lee was better anyway.



 

Friendly reminder billionaire are shilling for politicians they know are idiotic and incompetent like Trump to cut social programs and start stupid wars while increasing the national debt 5 trillion in 18 months to point out how government and "statist" ideology is unsustainable and harmful and then started astroturfing people curtis yarvin out of goddamn nowhere to spread and manufacture consent for a corporate and libertarian society, scapegoating the same incompetent governments they ceaselessly fought to bring to power

We are heading for an extremely oligarchical world, It's up for us to act now.
Ancapistan in ~10 years, give or take
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The thing with the "oligarchic world" is it's extremely easy for both state actors even at their weakest point or just lone wolf types to litteraly kill said oligarch and their family therefore to submit them, and they are well aware of that. I mean look at what Putin did.
Nobody is actually ready to die for Elon Musk or Peter Thiel, they can't buy honor and fidelity just mercenaries, nobody was even really ready to die for Walt Dysney and Henry Ford and these guys were actually geniuses.

It doesnt matter if Trump is a retard if he want he can litteraly ask his supporter both in the civilian population or the federal agencies to murder wathever billionaire he dislike and theyll do it and hell get away with it, likewise for a lib president. The power of the oligarch is extremely fake and gay, there's a reason Tyler Robinson freaked them out so much recently to the point of implicitely backing down on their RW signaling, they litteraly did nothing as a response for a reason.

The Russian state has been completely pillaged and the copper wires stolen after 1991, the military was in shamble and it took Putin what? 5 years to submit these guys? No need to make mountains out of molehills.

>>2888791
>then started astroturfing people curtis yarvin out of goddamn nowhere to spread and manufacture consent for a corporate and libertarian society,
No, not out of nowhere. That kind of stuff has been around for a long while and needs deconstructing.
>>2884944
>>2885001

>>2890487
Why all the violence? The people have to want the right thing?



 

I remember reading this book which had graphs on Maoist industrial development showing it was actually the beginning of the "economic miracle" the counterrevolutionary state had, and that the country had modernised in the Maoist era. I'd like to find it to cite, but I don't remember the name and I didn't have a pdf in my computer library that has those details exactly nationwide, so I had to resort to a book by a liberal historian called Chinese Economic Development by Chris Bramal, that has some of the statistics (especially when it comes to human development), but not the industrial statistics. It is a good book but it is not what I am looking for and it is limited because it is liberal history not socialist history.

Could anyone help me find the book I am looking for?

>>2848797
Was it "Red China's Green Revolution" by Joshua Eisenman?

>>2848798
I don't think so but thanks for the recommendation

I wish the Chinese proletarian Maoists well
Talk about a concentration of the revolutionary subject holy shit

what kind of "maoism" MLM? MZT? M3W?




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Hah I just heckin owned the chuddies
but some raped incel right winged bigot is sending me that video of this beautiful trans women getting killed man

can someone dox that uygha and kill him thanks

Kill yourself

Ok but sending DKAs (DeadKirkAdult) is kinda based

>>2890366
clitty leak or whatever this websites shit version of it



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Why would the society described in Plato's Republic be undesirable according to a Marxist perspective? We know all the problems with democracy and how the masses of people can't be trusted. Plus the republic abolishes private property and calls for communal raising of children, which Marxists also support.

Being ruled by the wise is undoubtedly the best system of government. Philosopher kings are chads, and what better system than to be ruled by chads?

The Republic is the defining work of all western political philosophy so it should be natural that we turn to it.
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>>2890134
Well currently Chinese are occupying learned institutes so they obviously would call for such a thing. As far as intelligence goes a concrete definition of it has not been defined.

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>>2890143
>Well currently Chinese are occupying learned institutes
what does that have to do with "philosopher kings"
>so they obviously would call for such a thing
1 question, 2 statements
  1. why should i care what any one "calls for" instead of what they actually do?
  2. I see no evidence that they would "call for" philosopher kings
  3. your conclusion is completely unrelated to your premise. "occupying learned institutes" has nothing to do with "philosopher kings" or even with the more general "rule by the wise" since a person can be wise without being educated, and vice-versa.

aristocracy can be argued for in cybernetic terms. the aristos are fit to rule because they are the wisest, the most knowledgeable. they have the most accurate model of society. the good regulator theorem and the internal model principle both state that to regulate a system you must have an accurate model of that system. without such modelling good regulation cannot be effected. therefore the aristos, the vanguard, should rule

>>2890161
But what may qualify "the best"?
Plato properly sees that duty to the public good must be made by the decoupling of power from money, from a lack of personal possession, and by constant self-improvement (e.g. eugenics). The entrepeneurial aristocracy of people like Yarvin sees money, power and wisdom as all synonymous, and so aristocracy becomes plutocracy.

>Idealist political philosophy
>Preservation of class society
>Anti-democratic elite rule
>Eugenics

Holy shit Plato was ML??



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