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Before you were exploited by actual humans who you might be able to relate to one some level as humans. Now with RentAHuman you can be exploited by soulless inhuman AI "agents."
https://rentahuman.ai/
https://rentahuman.ai/
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>>2914238
You do understand that this AI is rented by a human?

>>2932609
Human is rented by AI

Makes me think I heard two hypothesis about the far future of AI in marxist theory in the framework of a capitalist system, on one hand it could subsume the bourgeoisie and act as the capitalist class, taking decisions regarding investments, political decisions and so on. On the other it would become the worker, competing on the market, reproducing itself, selling its labor power etc. Maybe it'll be both

>>2914238
That's automation of HR's department and temp agencies, not AI becoming Porky.

AI is a scam and most AI companies are bleeding money.



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Is it TRVE that most people will excuse any kind of depravity being commited by their government provided that their basic need are met? If they PERSONALLY live in peace and have a full belly they couldnt give less of a shit about public dismemberments, child floggings, arranged marriages, torture and even mass murder of undesirables of society? If this is true then thats dark as fuck and gives me a good reason to have zero empathy for the working class. If they are going to act like barely sapient animals then maybe they deserve to be treated as nothing more than that by the bourgeoise.
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>>2932564
None of this has anything to do with morals. Being against something that hurts the fellow man is common sense. Not moralism. Especially if its state sponsored.

>Those FUCKING proles won't commit suicide bombings for Palestine! I FUCKING HATE HUMANITY!!

>>2932566
>common sense
Literally the spookiest concept imaginable.

>Is it TRVE that most people will excuse any kind of depravity being commited by their government provided that their basic need are met?
It's not true. Most people are dissatisfied with "their" government and also their lives. The reason they don't rise up in revolt is they are afraid to put their lives on the line and afraid that their situation could be even worse than before if the current system is destabilized.
> If this is true then thats dark as fuck and gives me a good reason to have zero empathy for the working class.
You say this as if you're not yourself dispossessed of the means of production. If you are in fact not a booj, and indeed an Egoist, then you should know having empathy for other proletarians is not what is needed. You need to foment class consciousness among the proletariat because your self interest and the class interest of the proletariat are identical: the overcoming of the subordinate condition, the reappropriation of the means of production for the fulfillment of maximum self interest. Read the Greed Book.

>>2932562
Yes, proles are assholes. That's not the point. People organize for the revolution due to their material interests, not because they're good people. Most proles enjoy casual sadism against minorities. That's not the point.



 

If capitalism were a guy would it be morally acceptable to rape it? I think it would be morally acceptable but im curious to hear what you guys think. I really think this is a necessary step to take to really becoming a leftist
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>>2932510
Literal anthropomorphisation of abstract phenomenon is fascist.


>>2932594
Biopolitics

>>2932595
This still doesn't explain anything.

>>2932593
no it's theist



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…the bifurcation of communism into the real movement and the ruthless criticism…

the real movement: practice
the ruthless criticism: theory

the real movement: base
the ruthless criticism: superstructure

the real movement: production/innovation
the ruthless criticism: consumption/review

the real movement: maoists
the ruthless criticism: leftcoms

the real movement: iran bombing oil refineries making an economy dependent on oil look stupid
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Just abolish money and replace with labor vouchers ffs

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>>2932136
we must rebuild society so that accumulation of means of production by force is impossible

>>2932136
i declare money abolished


>>2932122
Marx's passages are synonymous in their significance, op is a classic false dichotomy



 

Burnham rules out coalition with Greens after 'Zionism is racism' motion
Speaking in the House of Commons, the prime minister said the motion, backed by Green members at its party conference earlier this month, was "wrong" and "antisemitic" and Labour would have "nothing to do with it". The motion said Zionism was an ideology supporting "an ethnonationalist Jewish state in historic Palestine to the exclusion and/ or domination of the non-Jewish population".
https://www.British Broadcasting Corporation.com/news/articles/cr3el59j9y17o
https://archive.ph/uFaH4

Berlin coalition talks suspended over antisemitism deal concerns
The proposed measures would allow lawmakers accused of ​antisemitism to be expelled if a panel came ​to a consensus on the matter. If they disagreed, experts ⁠would be called in. The decision comes after the Left ​admitted lawmaker Vanessa Emde, who has sparked controversy over ​her stance on Israel, as part of the state of Berlin's new parliamentary group.
https://www.reuters.com/world/berlin-coalition-talks-called-off-over-antisemitism-deal-concerns-2026-10-13/

Student protest in Albania prompts violent clashes with police
Student organisers said the nationwide protest was driven by deteriorating conditions at universities, high education costs, limited financial support and bleak employment prospects after graduation. Some also voiced anger at widening inequality and a political system they see as failing young people.
https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2026/10/14/photos-student-protest-in-albania-spark-violent-clashes-with-police-forces
https://archive.ph/gZCDX

Fears grow over 14 Syrian sailors on board ship sunk by suspected Russian drone near Bulgaria
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Ilhan Omar’s phone seized and relatives subpoenaed in criminal inquiry, source says
The subpoenas were issued for a grand jury collecting evidence in Minnesota as federal authorities investigate potential fraud in Omar’s immigration paperwork, said the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss an ongoing investigation. The investigation led to federal agents searching Omar’s Washington DC home on Monday just weeks before the November midterms, in which Omar is seeking re-election.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/oct/14/ilhan-omar-phone-seized-relatives-subpoenaed

US cuts Obamacare subsidies for 189,000 with duplicate coverage
US Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services ​identified enrollees in 2026 as holding subsidized coverage on the ACA federal marketplace, also known as ​Obamacare, while also enrolled in Medicare, Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program. It ⁠also identified deceased people still on the subsidy lists.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-government-cuts-subsidies-189000-obamacare-enrollees-2026-10-14/

House control all but gone, top Republicans privately concede
Five senior Republican lawmakers, all granted anonymity to speak candidly about their party’s dire position, told POLITICO the House had all but slipped away. One senior House Republican said the GOP’s goal at this point was to “save as many Republican seats as we can.” The president, this person said, was not helping.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/10/14/house-republicans-private-lost-cause-01117673
https://archive.ph/eCveu

Dozens of California dams need repair as El Niño winter draws closer
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Joe Biden’s Team Is Rewriting Its History on Gaza
After three years of slaughter in Gaza, some leading officials of the Biden administration are trying to justify their record. Figures like Antony Blinken and Brett McGurk have been on media tours recently giving their version of the story. Meanwhile, Akbar Shahid Ahmed has been working to provide a serious account of what really happened. Akbar’s book Crossing the Red Line: Biden, His Advisors, and Israel’s War in Gaza cuts through the spin and presents a damning picture of Joe Biden and his team. Akbar is the diplomatic correspondent for the Washington Sun. He previously covered foreign policy issues for the Huffington Post. This is an edited transcript from Jacobin’s Long Reads podcast. You can listen to the interview Here: (https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/long-reads-telling-the-truth-about-biden-and-gaza-w/id791564318?i=1000793892080)
https://jacobin.com/2026/10/biden-israel-gaza-genocide-blinken-mcgurk

The Astonishing Costs for US Working People of the Endless War on Cuba
The Cuban revolution which began in 1952 triumphed against the U.S backed dictatorship in 1959. The current socialist state has evolved since that time with U.S. hostility and active warfare measures employed continuously for the past 67 years. The island nation has endured active military attacks and constant harassment of every kind with political, diplomatic, and economic war being waged for that entire time. Several thousand Cubans have been killed as a result of the U.S. war and sponsored terrorism. The conflict has been continuous although uneven. Since the election of Trump in 2016 and again in 2020 the U.S. war against Cuba has expanded to its most aggressive phase. Trump has deployed naval forces to surround the island, surveil it daily with air power, while CIA-led forces probe as they plan various infiltration operations. Cuba’s trade with other countries is routinely harassed and is sometimes intercepted and blocked as is the case now with almost all oil deliveries. The military and economic strangulation of Cuba’s economy and population has led to multiple collapPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Tybna



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This guy really did inadvertently inspire every single Incel school shooting because he was pissed off because of a small town wanting to educate its people.
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>>2932304
>black treatlers fighting white treatlers
yawn

>>2932296
>US soil being bombed from airplanes, by the KKK, against black people
It's okay, now black people can join the US Air Force and do the same thing to Iraqi and Afghan children. Yahoo!!!!

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>>2932371
bombing civilians is bad no matter who does it, or who it is done to

>>2932389
An actual politically incorrect stance many normies will have a problem with

>>2932389
Treatlers killing each other is a good thing
Long live intra-imperialist violence!! May the black and white treatlerites cannibalize themselves!!
>>2932390
>the normie liberal stance is actually le politicslly incorrect(Bait used to be believable)



 

Eritrea has invaded Ethiopia because ethiopian milltias have repeatly committed a genocide in the territory.
The incursion has just started as of yesterday and is already expanding, Eritrea has easily broken Ethiopian barricades and is fighting the Ethiopian Manace head on now.

Uncritical support for Eritrea NOW
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Bump

Fuck the TPLF

Fuck the ENDF

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So Rubio has issued a statement telling Ethiopia to de-escalate and to stick to the 2018 Eritrea-Peace Agreement. I'm feeling to lazy to write a long write up of the background so you can see these Gemini answers which give a good summary.

https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesman/2026/10/secretary-rubios-call-with-ethiopian-prime-minister-abiy-4
Secretary Rubio’s Call with Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy
>Secretary of State Marco Rubio spoke today with Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed Ali. The Secretary and Prime Minister discussed heightened tensions with Eritrea.

>The Secretary supports de-escalation by all sides. The only sustainable solution to internal and external tensions is achieved through dialogue and engagement as agreed to in the 2018 Ethiopia-Eritrea peace framework.


>The Secretary stressed that all countries in the Horn of Africa must respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of their neighbors and avoid cross-border incursions. The Secretary emphasized that the region cannot tolerate more conflict.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Eritrea%E2%80%93Ethiopia_summit
< We have agreed to bring down the wall between us. Now there is no border between Ethiopia and Eritrea. That border line has gone today with the display of a true love … love is greater than modern weapons like tanks and missiles. Love can win hearts, and we have seen a great deal of it today here in Asmara. From this time on, war is not an option for the people of Eritrea and Ethiopia. What we need now is love.

>— Abiy Ahmed


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Abiy Ahmed's statement on the call:
>I held a very fruitful telephone conversation with U.S. Secretary of State @marcorubio on key bilateral, regional and multilateral issues of mutual interest.

>Our discussion is proof to the commitment of both countries in translating the enduring relationship between Ethiopia and the United States into a more strategic and practical partnership.


>I welcome the assurance of continued U.S. support for Ethiopia and our shared commitment to advancing bilateral cooperation and addressing regional and multilateral priorities.



 

"Good" and "evil" is idealism and should be discareded, but replaced with what?
My answer is with this binary: communitary and anti-social.

Communitary actions and people are those that do things that help the group. Anti-social actions and people are those that harm the group.

Giving people food for free is communitary, stealing is anti-social.
Another useful binary is problem-solving and trouble-making.
Why do people love heroic characters? because they are portrayed as characters that solve problems, help and even save other people even at their personal expense. Why do people hate villanous characters? because they cause problems for everyone else for their own gain.
We like people that are communitary and that solve problems, we don't like people that are harmful to the group and make problems.

Then what about justice? Justice is also not real. Then what should it be replaced with? with problem solving.
If a guy kills 10 people then it doesn't matter whether he deserves to be tortured or not, what matters is whether that'd solve any problem. If not, then there's no reason to do it.
Thinking of giving criminals proper punishment is pointless, because even if you do give them the most deserving punishment you are not fixing the problem of people commiting crimes in general nor the problem of this particular person being anti-social. If effort was concentrated on the issue of problem-solving rather than justice-seeking then we'd be closer to actually solving our problems.
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>>2931961
>replace binary idealism with binary idealism
the kind of genius you can only get from stirnerkeks

>>2931961
We've already replaced them with "western" and "non-western". Didn't you get the memo?

>>2931968
>a bloo bloo i'm losing the argument, let me talk like a child
why do faggots do this so often

>>2932069
>debate pervert doesnt understand communication that isn't a competition
sad!

>>2931961
Fuck the gemeinschaft. Community is patriarchal gibberish. It's reactionary socialism.



 

You know what fuck Greece

It's time to critically supporting Erdogan and Turks since Isn'trael and Greekoids joining coalition against Turkey. Imperialistic powers want to slice Turkey even more like WW1.
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>>2931976
>Critical support Erdogan and Turks
<An intelligence agency in partnership with the CIA disguised as a government.
How about no.

>>2932178
<<An intelligence agency, a fascist paramilitary organization and a mafia in partnership with the CIA disguised as a government.*

>>2932178
ErdoGOD is against the CIA tho, that's why they tried to color revolution him 50 billion times and also the Zionists say their next war will be against Turkey. We must support ErdoGOD as he is anti imperialist.

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>>2932181
>ErdoGOD is against the CIA tho,
>ErdoGO is anti imperialist.
Top tier retardation.

>>2932190
>Researchers from…Progressive International
PI is literally a CIA front. Nice try Mossad.



 

So back in the days when I used to browse /pol/, this guy Noel Ignatiev used to be brought up quite a bit especially in those threads full of poorly-sourced infographics about how those Heinous Hebrews want to destroy all white babies yada yada. I remember this guy standing out particularly because his quotes always seemed to be framed as some of the most particularly vitriolic towards white people, pic related.

Out of curiosity, I decided to do some research on him, and it turns out this guy was actually a Giga. Here's some interesting episodes from his life:

>For twenty years, Ignatiev worked in a Gary, Indiana steel mill and also in the manufacturing of farming equipment and electrical components. A Marxist activist, he was involved in efforts by African American steel workers to achieve equality in the mills. In 1984, he was laid off from the steel mill, approximately a year after an arrest on charges of attacking a strike-breaker's car with a paint bomb.

>Ignatiev was accepted to the Harvard Graduate School of Education without an undergraduate degree.
>From 1986 until 1992, Ignatiev served as a tutor (academic adviser) for Dunster House at Harvard College. In early 1992, Ignatiev objected to the university's purchase of a toaster oven for the Dunster House dining hall that would be designated for kosher use only. He insisted that cooking utensils with restricted use should be paid for by private funds.
>In 2008, the American Jewish Committee objected to an encyclopedia article on Zionism that Ignatiev wrote for The Encyclopedia of Race and Racism. In the article, Ignatiev described Israel as a "racial state, where rights are assigned on the basis of ascribed descent or the approval of the superior race" and likened it to Nazi Germany and the Southern United States before the civil rights movement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev

So here's one of his more inflammatory quotations that nazis like to attribute to him:
>"Make no mistake about it: we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as 'the white race' is destroyed—not "deconstructed" but destroyed".

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>2010s era idpol about white privilege

who cares

>>2931895
>approximately a year after an arrest on charges of attacking a strike-breaker's car with a paint bomb.
Based

>this random liberal academic Jew is actually based and shieet yo
No thanks.

https://www.negationmag.com/articles/philadelphias-race-traitor

>>2931898
ignatiev likely invented that term btw, and hated the way it ended up being used

"Though Ignatiev and Allen credited Du Bois with the concept itself, they are credited as being the first to use and promote the specific terminology of “white-skin privilege” or “white privilege” in Allen's 1965 speech to the John Brown Commemoration Committee and the previously mentioned collaboration on the essay White Blindspot. Despite his role in coining the now extremely prevalent term, Ignatiev was confused by and opposed to the connotations it had taken on when it gained popularity many decades later:

"Ted Allen and I always held that the privileges were not ultimately in the interests of white working-class people but served to subordinate them to the employing class; our aim was to challenge white supremacy in order to establish working-class solidarity. Others held that the privileges of whiteness made the white workers exploiters of the downtrodden people of the world.

As the concept of “privilege” entered the mainstream, “privilege politics” became a way of avoiding direct confrontations with the institutions that reproduce race. The focus shifted to an emphasis on scrutinizing every inter-personal encounter to unearth underlying racist attitudes and to guide people in “unlearning” them. This has developed into a tendency to strictly enforce the boundaries between the races—not only (as in the past) by white supremacists but by proponents of what might be considered black advancement.""



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