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> please dont protest against your work
> It would be very cringe to do and not be based poggers
> did you even think of the shareholders and THEIR feelings
> did you know the bourgeoisie could get INJURED in your protest and how cringe it would be?

His parents are rich, he's probably the nicest petit-bourgeois Floridian McSuburbanite.

Which isn't saying much.

>>>/isg/



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Thoughts on basic logics video? Seems like he doesn’t understand fascism, is one and thinks it’s “not left or right” it’s absolutely far right
https://youtu.be/2gpkH_hpo6U?si=b_zFZum1gCmDbfkg
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>>2775711
I just saw that an hour or two ago. Typical for youtubers, they're all liberal morons. Not a single youtuber has criticized the bourgeois spectrum of politics as a whole (left-right, third position, fourth position, post-left and other nonsense).

The moron also uses an arbitrary accumulative definition rather than an economic analysis that leads to the real definition of what fascism is - a bourgeois ideology. The same definition goes for many other such words.

>>2775728
True I hate those economic videos where they have valid critiques of capitalism have this weird either 3rd positionist view or some esoteric spiritual view



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>Previous Bake
>>2772809

<Ceasefire edition


Latest News
>Trump TACO'd yesterday
<Iran agrees to charade of ceasefire
>Paki PM had to rescue Trump's ass
<Zios started bombing Lebanon right away
>Ceasefire might break as Iran wants Lebanon, but JD says no Lebanon
<War might resume
>Oil futures tanked hard after market manipulation

>Important Links:

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How retarded do you have to be to think that Israel a tiny nation in the Middle East is somehow controlling the us fucking chuds man…

Let's say hypothetically that Stupid Dump succeeds in overthrowing the Iranian government. Do you think he'd be chill with Women Life Freedom or would he coup them too and undo everything they actually fought for

>>2775665
He would establish a monarchy that would immediately go into a civil war he just wants irans resources

>>2775620
great shitian was a small island that controlled 1/3 of the globe



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Would there be museums under communism? If so, how would the upkeep costs and such be handled? Please explain like I have a donkey brain (I really do).

>>2774590
>Would there be museums under communism?
yes
>If so, how would the upkeep costs and such be handled?
shit will just work fine dont worry about it

museums of class society will be essential to show why class society is not worth going back to
>muh upkeep costs
paid out of social surplus like every other public service
>SURPLUS WILL STILL EXIST???
yes, read gothakritik

There is one in Shanghai about the history of the CPC and I really recommend it to everyone interested about communism, it focuses a lot on the early history of the labour movement in China, how it developed, and talk more about Chen Duxiu and Zhou Enlai than Mao or Deng surprisingly enough, it's great and it's free, I wouldn't mind visiting it again really.

>>2774590
we already have free museums all across europe and the united kingdom

We will pillage the global south and put their artifacts on displace of course.



 

I live in South Carolina. Joshua Sutter and his wife, Jillian Hoy operated Martinet Press and lived in and were based in South Carolina. There they formed the Tempel ov Blood/Libre 333/Iron Gates together for a theistic satanist order.
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>Sutter was released from prison early in 2004 due to his work as an informant and placed on probation. He moved back to South Carolina to live with his father. Sutter was paid over US$140,000 for his services from 2003 to 2021. He did not pay taxes on this income, and additionally received US$4,378.60 in travel fees from the FBI.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Caleb_Sutter
ZAMN. where do i sign up.??


>>2775399
Pretty sure CI stands for Christian Identity

>>2775399
What really sucks is that they put their church in a town of 300 (none of them live there) cause they think they can out-litigate the small town, which is probably true.

>>2775404
>>2775415
yes, christian identity has several churches all of which are whites-only
there's also a fringe sub-sector ,Dual Seedline
william finck is the worst



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Hello,
So, assume for this thread that by "ruling class," we mean the political active faction of the owning class (bourgeoisie) who, for the most part, would rather just sit on their butts and receive stock dividends. The ruling class itself controls the media apparatus, corporation, and politics of the western world.

I bring this up because I'm about to read "DuPont Dynasty: Beyond the Nylon Curtain" a book so damning that the DuPonts attempted to buy every copy of it and now the price for a hardcopy is over $500 (I'm getting mine from the library)

The DuPonts are a family of chemical manufacturing magnates who are largely responsible for the state of Delaware being a tax haven for corporations today. I know they've had a hand in deregulation and stifling reports of asbestos toxicity, but I hope to learn more from the book.
Robert H. Richards IV, a Dupont Heir, was found guilty in 2014 of raping his own daughter and as punishment had to attend rehabilitation (which he never did) and got labelled as a sex offender. He also molested his own son repeatedly and despite his ex-wife's best efforts did not face any legal repercussions for doing so.
In the US, some of the most notable ruling class families are the Astors, Rockefellars, DuPonts, Kennedys, Guggenheims, Rothschilds, Fords, Vanderbilts, Morgans, and Bushes. Not all of them are American but the capitalist class is transnational. There are others. Some, like the Vanderbilts, have largely lost their fortune but due to intermarriage with other families (except notably the Rothschilds who favor inbreeding) they have managed to maintain some power. Anderson Cooper is a vanderbilt to give you an example of how far they have fallen–even the haute bourgeoisie are not immune to proletarianization.
Flagging because I like pancakes.

Every crime is a crime of the ruling class or caused by ruling class ideology.

"Robber baron" was the colloquial term applied to monopolists during the late 19th century in the US, including the Rockefellers and the Vanderbilts, who controlled US transport and oil. Standard Oil owned around 90% of all US oil refineries by the 1880s. The monopoly was only broken up in 1911 after infringement was found in a 1890 case violating antitrust law.

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Palantir (named after the oracular devices of evil wizards in lord of the rings) is a project funded by the CIA to circumvent constitutional transparency through privatising surveillance technology. Peter Thiel (anagram for "the reptile") publicly promotes the privatisation of government, selling rights to the highest bidder; also wavering on the question on whether humanity should persist. He desires to transmute humanity into technology to fight the "antichrist". Elon Musk is friends with peter thiel - they are known as being part of the "paypal mafia", a group of tech entrepeneurs who now effectively control the internet.

Bill Gates (founder of Microsoft) is the largest private farmland owner in the US (total land value calculated at $700B+ across 250,000+ acres). Bill Gates is thus the biggest agricultural producer of food across the US; farmlands which routinely utilise slave labour from undocumented immigrants.

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Alfred Léonard Loewenstein was a Belgian financier and third richest man in the world at the time. His business interests ranged from a company providing hydro-electric power facilities to developing countries, to a purported drug deal made with American racketeer Arnold Rothstein.

The two planned to vastly increase the supply of heroin to the United States, and in so doing create an international drug ring throughout Europe and the U.S. In 1926 he founded a company called International Holdings and Investments Ltd., which raised vast amounts of money from wealthy individuals keen to invest in the business of such a successful man. However, by 1928 they had seen no return on their investments and were rapidly losing patience in Alfred.

On the evening of 4 July 1928, Alfred left from Croydon Airport to fly to Brussels on his private aircraft along with six other people. While the aircraft was crossing the English Channel, Alfred went to the rear of the aircraft to use the lavatory. In Alfred’s aircraft, a door at the rear of the main passenger cabin opened on to a short passage with two doors: the one on the right led to the lavatory, while the one on the left was the aircraft's entrance door.

When he had not reappeared after some time, Alfred's secretary went in search of him, and discovered that the lavatory was empty, and the aircraft's entrance door was open and flapping in the slipstream. The employee (along with the others on the aircraft) asserted his belief that he had fallen through the aircraft's rear door and plunged several thousand feet to his death in the English Channel.

A fishing boat spotted a decomposed corpse floating near the French coast. It was identified as the body of Alfred Loewenstein thanks to various clothing items. His widow Madeleine arranged a private autopsy to determine the cause of death. The examination found no signs that could indicate foul play or suicide. However, a small amount of alcohol was detected in his blood, which is odd considering Alfred never drank.

The strangest thing about how the whole incident was handled is that there was little effort to get to the bottom of what had happened. An official inquiry, in which no one was under oath, concluded that Loewenstein’s death was accidental. That conclusion was in great part based on the testimonies of Donald Drew (the pilot) and Robert Little (the mechanic). Both men insisted that the exit door was easy to open and thatPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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Heads up: I’m Italian, and as such I’m genuinely fascinated by how often American leftists have an utopian view of Europe, supposedly for its egalitarian and “socialist” policies, which actually runs counter to my experience. They might as well be the EU’s strongest soldier, believing in the EU more than the average European.
Granted, I never lived in the part of “Europe“ people talk about when using the term (which usually refers to just north-west Europe), but I do think Americans’ perception of what modern European countries (particularly those west of the Berlin Wall) are very distorted. For the sake of argument, I’ll be focusing on the EU.

For starters, both world wars and the instability of the European spring of 1848 has led to a lack of development of negative rights as well as the notion to more democracy = censorship, which is why censorship is more normalised in Europe than in America which has the first amendment. The biggest example would be the ECHR’s article 10 which makes it clear that freedom of speech isn’t absolute, which is a good example of how illiberal tendencies can exist in a seemingly “liberal” land. On the top of that, inequality is high in Europe, especially in terms of the holding power of the former aristocratic classes on European politic. As an example, Britain still has appointed lords even though the nobles’ powers have diminished a long ago, and by the time the French Revolution ended most of the aristocrats assimilated themselves into France’s political machine, whilst in Scandinavia wealth inequality is high.

As for racism, I would say that Europe is worst based on both data and personal experience. Remember Shiloh Hendrix? Well, if she did the same thing she did but in any European country, no one would bat an eye. Remember, hate speech laws are just lawfare, they’re not about “protecting minorities“ as its supporters claim. But it’s not just the micro level since hiring discrimination and lack of access to meaningful resources means many immigrants that weren’t wealthy on arrival (e.g., expats) are stuck on welfare and meagre wage or none. This in contrast to America where immigrants are treated better socially in spite of the lack of fringe benefits like universal healthcare.

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>>2775129
Ah, good ol’ fashioned French misogyny. For the Frenchman, a woman is both an equal in the realms of law and fraternite on the top of being a dolled-up whore for which he has no use for other than to cater to the fantasies of Frenchmen and their diverse perversions ooh la la.

Then again, France is the very epitome of bourgeois to the eyes of strangers, although it has some foundations as the country is full of semi-sophisticated reactionary hicks ruled over by a more technocratic elite whose aristocracy was already integrated within the post-ancien regime republican government after the failure of the Paris commune.

As one wise frog said: “The French may speak for the left, but their money lies on the right”

Indeed, whether it’s Foucault, Macron, Melenchon, and whatnot, they start with different ideologies only to end up at their system’s most conservative conclusions.
So it is to no one’s surprise that, despite the liberalism of the bourgeois French Revolution, not only do French employers treat their employees in the old aristocratic ways that even republicucks would see as abysmal, but its biggest protests ever prior to the yellow vests were the 2015 protests against gay marriage.

If it wasn’t for Roe v Wade getting repealed by the dreaded MAGAproles, then I doubt the French extremist republican government that has taken the Catholic church’s place as the arbiter of all truth in the eyes of the French people would have encoded abortion rights into its constitution.

In all seriousness tho, I often hear France as this libertine and sexually liberal enlightened atheist place, but not only were French politicians prudish about Femen (unlike Putin who gave a thumbs up when he saw a pair of Femen titties) but apparently France has adopted the dumb “Nordic model” on prostitution on the top of putting age ID on porn sites. Is it because of MeToo or something?

Because Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Austria, and Denmark have very liberal laws on prostitution and brothels despite being generally atheistic and feminist. So why did France diverge? Any Euro-comrade gringo care to enlighten me on this weird discrepancy?

>>2775311
they even executed joan of arc for wearing pants lol

>>2775311

Funny that you speak of “French misogyny” since it seems that France has apparently made it its mission to turn every French female citizen into a whore by the age of 15 (France’s age of consent), even tho prostitution is de facto banned (no sexual welfare for you, well-to-do inkwells, tee hee).

But to be fair, there is some basis in history:

  • French women only gained suffrage in 1948
  • French wives couldn’t open their own bank accounts without their husband’s permission until the 1960s
  • Marital rape wasn’t criminalised until 1994

And as an anecdote: I was part of a remote meeting with cameras on, and three of them were Frenchmen and one a Frenchwoman, out of a total group of 7 that included me. Anyway, as one of the French men was speaking, the French woman unintentionally interrupted him, and he alongside the other French men responded in a disproportionate manner: They angrily shouted and berated her until she was reduced to sobbing heart-throbbingly over her mic, with the man resuming the talk.

Makes me wonder if it’s one of those aristocratic habits from the ancien regime or not, but regardless that was the first taste of France’s unspoken “traditions”, although I’m not sure how common it is in French culture, especially in the workplace, eh.

>>2773462
The EU deviates towards social democracy and the USA deviates more towards anarchism. The main difference being that social democrats have achieved far more token reforms which never really changed anything. So on the surface level, it appears like the EU has achieved far more progress than the largely ineffectual anarchist deviation of the USA.

>>2775439
I agree as long as the small "a" anarchism is on purpose. Americans are too sniveling towards authority figure to trend towards capital "A" Anarchism.



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Lately, I have had a lot of questions that have raised serious questions and expressed opinions about Marxism. There is a feeling that we are all moving in the wrong direction. Western Marxists, instead of focusing on the labor movement, are focusing on protecting the rights of minorities, while Eastern Marxists are enlarge Revisionism and Conservatism in all directions, consolidating with capital. What we need to do, for Make Leftist Great Again? Should we return to strict orthodox Marxism or adapt to the new class structure of the 21st century?"
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you are a fascist hidding as a communist

>>2775180
many such cases

>>2775099
>There is a labour movement just not fully widespread.
I think thats what he means by "no real", as in not big enough to be significant, this is why it never achieves momentum
the labor movement just doesn't grow in the current conditions like it did in the early 20th century or in the 19th century, and this is not just in the west

>>2775147
As >>2775096 Anon says, today's average, not the radical, western left-wing parties appeal to minority rights, ignore the protection of workers' rights, and turn socialist ideology into luxury and empty talk, all to attract the attention of the liberal public. In Eastern Marxism, for example, in China and post-Soviet countries, we see support for imperialist wars or attempts to restore capitalism, and
they also attract the attention of a conservative and chauvinistic public.

>>2775099
>minneapolis just had a general strike this year
That was a symbolic one-day 'strike' organized explicitly along partisan, cross-class lines that involved brave acts like asking businesses in advance to close so that workers didn't have to disobey their bosses.

Yes labor unions do exist and can do good work but it's disingenuous to claim they constitute a 'movement' if the only way they can get anything done is by allying with liberal political machines or the petty bourgeoisie.



 

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/12395.html
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The good doctor Dermot will be speaking about the 15th Supreme People's assembly and some of the reforms

How do I pronounce juche and when will jimmy un get a proper haircut

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Pretty cool
Respected Comrade Kim Jong Un observed a test organized by the Armored Weapons Research Institute of the Academy of National Defense Science.
Respected Comrade Kim Jong Un , General Secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea and Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, observed a tank capability evaluation test organized by the Armored Weapons Research Institute of the Academy of National Defense Science.
Comrade Kim Jong Un expressed great satisfaction, stating that the test served as an opportunity to demonstrate, through actual action rather than explanation, how superior our new main battle tank is, and to clearly demonstrate how reliable a combat means it is.
Comrade Kim Jong Un stated that through the test conducted today, the functionality of our new main battle tank's interception system has been demonstrated to be perfectly equipped with the capability to thoroughly eliminate almost all existing anti-tank means.
Comrade Kim Jong Un, while evaluating the new main battle tank that demonstrated remarkable combat performance, said that it was once again confirmed that there is no room for doubt in our view, which has already declared that there is no tank in the world comparable to this one.
During the various tests conducted on this day to inspect the active protection system of the new main battle tank, the combat effectiveness of the protection system against anti-tank means attacking from various directions was specifically tested, and the perfection of the defensive function was confirmed with 100% probability. (End)

Mass movement to win the Red Flag of the Three Revolutions in Nampo City
(Pyongyang, April 8, Korean Central News Agency)

In Nampo City, a mass movement is being carried out to further raise the banner of the Three Revolutions and accelerate the comprehensive development of socialism.

The city is deepening Party guidance to mobilize all institutions, enterprises, and units for the movement to win the Red Flag of the Three Revolutions and to demonstrate their power in the struggle to implement the decisions of the 9th Party Congress.

Chollima Steel Complex, Daean Heavy Machinery Complex, and others are conducting educational work based on the Party's leadership achievements in a manner suited to the actual situation, thereby heightening the workers' loyalty and patriotic fervor.

At the Daean Friendship Glass Factory and Nampo Port, ideological education centers are being established to instill the achievements of peerless great leaders in the employees, preparing them to become strong individuals of ideology and conviction who are loyal to the Party and the revolution.

Gangseo Sprayer Factory is operating a science and technology dissemination center to improve the technical skill level of its workers and is producing sprayers and water sprayers to send to rural areas.

Cheongsan Farm in Gangseo District, Daedae Namsae Farm in Waudo District, and Gangseon Farm in Cheollima District are striving to raise the ideological awareness of agricultural workers, instilling in them the realization that they are the agents and masters of the rural revolution of the new era, and are promoting projects to improve rural living environments.

At the Posan Iron and Steel Works, Nampo Mill Processing Plant, and others, efforts are being accelerated to implement the new five-year plan while carrying out socialist patriotic movements and revolutionary mass movements. (End)

The Position of the Communist Party of Kenya Regarding North Korea
North Korea is a subject of international debate. Most of the debates on the far east country are however clouded by view of the country that has been created by US government propaganda.
In a bid to provide our readers with a different view of North Korea, ITIKADI spoke to the Communist Party of Kenya Vice-Chairperson, Booker Ngesa Omole, who is also a member of Songun Study in Kenya.

Excerpts….

<Q: What is the position of the Communist Party of Kenya regarding North Korea?

>A: Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) is a beacon of hope for all the oppressed and exploited people of the world. DPRK is the pillar of our anti-imperialist struggles. The Communist Party of Kenya (CPK) and the Kenyan people have always been friends of the people of North Korea. The African people understand the pain of colonialism, neo-colonialism, and now imperialism. We know who our friends are, imperialism continues to cause untold suffering in Africa, and no amount of Western propaganda and outright lies can prevail over the truth. Some bad-mouth the Korean socialist project and we understand where they are coming from. The remnants of colonialism are still evident and making some people more gullible to believing European and American notions of things. In Europe and North America, conditioned masses, have stubbornly refused to comprehend the reasons why the Empire has made the people of North Korea suffer so terribly for years. American based cable TV channels like CNN have conditioned the thinking of some of our people. The Communist Party of Kenya, among other revolutionary organizations, has been at the forefront to rebut this well-choreographed western propaganda. The alternative anti-imperialist media like TeleSur, Press TV, RT has provided the hardware to lead this war. Social media is another avenue that has been instrumental in our anti-imperialism agenda.

<Q: In the West, there are a lot of talks about the future of Africa -North Korea relations; there are also several commentaries mainly from African left intellectuals on the Korean socialist project. Where is the communist party in this?

>A: Like I already mentioned, the global south, from Latin America to Africa know that imperiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

Have marxist-leninists learned anything from the failures and dissolutions of 90% of marxist leninist states in the 20th century?
Or do they still just seethe at trotsky while sucking off stalins rotten corpse?
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That Marxism-Leninism - Mao Zedong Thought is correct and that modern revisionists want the same to happen to the PRC, only with less "wasted assets".

>>2774764
>That Marxism-Leninism - Mao Zedong Thought is correct
Funny cause there arent any marxist leninists or maoist countries left in the world

>>2774793
ML-MZT is modern China's line.
So called "maoism" is a synthesis of trotskyism and anarchism cooked up by a peruvian cult leader + french intelligentsia

>>2774793
Your conception of history is flat, whiggish and unscientific. Class struggle didn't go anywhere, and it moves in spirals. First a city (Paris Commune); then we "lost", supposedly? Then the third half of the globe (1950s); then we "lost", supposedly? Now the world. What % of the world population earns their income from wages today? Versus what in the 1890s?
>>2774801
No, MZT was replaced with reform and opening up. The revisionist CPC today actively censors and distorts its depiction of MZT and Marxism-Leninism overall, as well as significant historical periods of their own country's modern history, in a desperate attempt to try to secure their corrosive bureaucrat-monopoly capitalist line. It will not work and they will either hand it over to the reactionary nationalists (when they find the mechanism of allied national capitalist forces stable enough) or be overthrown by the revolutionary chinese proletariat ready to retake control. Seeing the movements in the international system right now, arrows point to the middle of the century being a catastrophic / excellent event. The revisionist clique relatedly will try their best to to stabilize capitalism with lies about "[communism in x decades]" during this time. It will be met with a reawakened world not willing to compromise with reactionary classes. You are partially correct on the point of Gonzaloist "Maoism". I recommend you read this thread: >>2767836

>>2773550
The USSR didn't have a "deep state" until after the demise of Lenin. He was a true believer in the revolution through and through.



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