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Why are Western bourg so incredibly invested in protecting Israel? At some point it’s hard for me to believe they have this much to gain from protecting this tiny sliver of land. What the fuck is going on?
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Why are Russian bourg so incredibly invested in protecting Serbia? At some point it’s hard for me to believe they have this much to gain from protecting this tiny sliver of land. What the fuck is going on?

Because almost all western governments are bought out by Israeli and megacorp lobbies, or follow the diktats of America whose government is bought out by the Israeli and megacorp lobbies. In the latter’s case, it’s big tech. And big tech loves Israel not only because Silicon Valley is full of psychotic chuds with a god complex and thus see the Jews in terms of class solidarity wherein their hatred of the Palestinians is a diffusion of their hatred for the prole in general while the Jews are the bourgeois, but also because Israel is a tech hub between Asia and Europe, which is also why China massively trades with Israel. I mean, hello where do you think the various spywares used by governments Worldwide come from?

There’s also the fact that America is, well, a fucking ZOG. In this case, western support for Israel is also ideological, especially given how powerful Jewish lobbies are.

>>2840987
>An answer to this that lots of people ignore sadly is incumbency bias - at this point, an entire generation of civil servants, politicians, journalists, military officers etc … Nobody *ever* admits to that and they are not going to allow a process to take place that ends with them being up before the dock. And people who work under them know that it won't be good for their careers to be seen to support that sort of outcome. And this bias is so fundamental that it doesn't need to be explained by muh lobby money or whatever … That is where the absolute fanaticism comes from.
I think this is closer to the mark, although not so much a latent awareness of having been complicit in human rights abuses. It's more about status and Israel is also serving as a proxy for this struggle over recognition. Status is about who's respected in society and who's not. Status is related to class but it sits kind of orthogonal to it. So there's an entire generation of politicians, civil servants, journalists, military officers etc. who feel like they've "made it," and that they represent the center of society. It's relational to others and how they're seen and/or taken seriously and by whom. Also people who are trying to defend their status rarely say that's what they're doing, they'll say they're defending "civilization" or "common sense" or "tradition" or "morality" or something. Israel represents "civilization" and Hamas represents the "barbarians."

They feel insecure too because there's a lot of immigration from Muslim countries, and those immigrants and their kids don't rock with Israel, to put it mildly. But if you listened to any of Zohran Mamdani's speeches, he would articulate his candidacy for New York mayor as representing Uzben nurses and Senegelese cab drivers, people who are not "seen" or respected in any case. (That's also related to Graham Platner and the disgust some of his opponents in American society have for him, like establishment media and political types, even if Platner isn't really "working class" he looks like a "barbarian" to tastemakers.) This is also why you can get alt-right types who a few years ago were making antisemitic statements mutate into being pro-Israel guys, they exist, it's not a totally cynical maneuver, they really do feel threatened in some kind of way.

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>>2842034
>They feel insecure too because there's a lot of immigration from Muslim countries, and those immigrants and their kids don't rock with Israel
Literally nobody rocks with Israel. even in your picture as an example, the Solidarity orgs and so on up and down the country are full of young and old white people along with all other people. Notably they have been hating Israel, paradoxically oct7 probably increased sympathy for Israel compared to the levels before, i remember doing activism and etc around Cast Lead, my first real introduction to the topic, and even back then my parents would tell me how it's been so bad since they were my age.
Israel has never been popular here, this is a big part of why the media and state is so heavy handed on the issue. It's the whole reason they had to create the EDL, Tommy Ten Names and so on.

Leftards and baizuos worldwide will never admit to this, both because they don't read books and have mostly abandoned materialism, but also because the well has been poisoned beyond belief mostly by agents of zioninsm themselves and their greatest neo-nazi allies/useful idiots and they'd rather not be associated with that.

One of the strongest reasons for this is that the riches and fortunes of jewish banking dynasties are foundational to the current day west, a great number of western porkies are in their position because their allowed to be there by what's essentially a zionist mafia, else they'd get gatekept or worse. The zionist project is a not a colony of the west, it is a pet project of the masters of the western banking system and they've successfully recruited the top echelons of western haute society to their cause. Maybe the westards are mostly non-believers (but that may be changing) but they still have a material interest of protecting their standing in this system regardless of their personal views on the matter - and be honest, we all know they wouldn't be spared if justice ever comes to these issues, so the self-preservation angle is likely stronger for most of the elite as religious zeal is for the original creators of the idea.



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Which is more correct:

>Communists should treat the petty bourgeoisie, the bourgeoisie, the liberals, the social democrats, the conservatives, the fascists, and the anarchists as equally hostile threats to Communism, never distinguish between them as groups, and always lump them in with each other. No effort should be made to pit these groups against each other, it should be assumed they are all on the same team and would never fight each other. None of these groups are worthy of critical support against others, not even in the context of anti-imperialism.


<Communists should distinguish between their enemies, since their enemies have different motivations and different interests. They can and should be pit against one another. Critical support should be given to lesser enemies against stronger enemies, to weaken the stronger enemies, and get the lesser enemies eliminated early. Social democrats should not be simply regarded as left wing fascists in a stale regurgitation of the 1920s comintern line, especially since Stalin abandoned that line and was even willing to tolerate liberal bourgeoisie like Roosevelt and conservative bourgeoisie like Churchill as allies against Hitler. Depending on context, groups are often worthy of critical support against others, especially in the context of anti-imperialism.


I think it is clearly the second, one, yet I often see takes approximating the first one on here. Why is that?
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>>2834415
>no porky blood on the knife
a true class-warrior does not re-sheathe his blade until it has drawn bourgeois blood

>>2834292
What does critical support mean? Are you sending them guns, money, specialized labor, convincing logistics workers in the imperial core to strike? Or is just something about memes?

>>2841798
Its about spreading propaganda about them.

>>2834336
I enjoy the Comintern Third Period LARP and you will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever be able to take that away from me.

>>2841928
Your honesty is a beautiful thing to behold…. sometimes



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The cycle of marxist-leninism
>First Kill all other types of marxists
>Then start killing other marxist-leninists
>Then start killing the working class
>Then sell out to liberalism and capitalism.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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>>2842050
the slander just doesn't hold water given the context of soviet underdevelopment and nazi aggression. losurdo's book western marxism gives a rundown of all the awful shit western imperial powers did in the periphery in the lead up to ww2 and it's sickening. for whatever reason we get a steady stream of flogs from history 101 that want to litigate soviet standoff policy.

we've had this exact thread on a weekly basis and it always goes the same way.

>>2841493
tell us, Genius Anon, what would you have done if you were in the USSR's shoes?

>>2842445
Literally just not sign the pact.

>>2841860
Make me bitch lmao

>>2842757
mhm. and what do you think that would do to the Nazis' inevitable "invade the USSR" timeline? would it hasten it or would it delay it?



 

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Delcy is a sell out

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Delcy is now extraditing Maduro’s allies to the USA.

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>>2814963
>>2785788
Everytime, kek

Lol

Geez good thing the proletariat in Venezuela is armed and ready to defend the revolution!



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Mass Immigration of low skilled workers is a right wing policy that the left has somehow been conned into thinking is left wing

This is not a post about immigration in general. Immigration of high skilled workers is a fantastic positive for the economy and the country. But millions of low/no skill immigrants with rights to bring their families over and end up as net negative contributors to the tune of ~£20,000 a year each to the taxpayer - and other issues detailed in a second - is the right wing business owners mega rich policy that the left should be staunchly against.

Classical mustache twirling right wing is basically 'for the rich at the expense of everyone else'. Importing low skilled immigration by the millions ends up; driving down wages for working class people and, more insidiously, the costs of anyone who doesn't work and relies on benefits etc is paid by the state and hence the taxpayer. (Not my view of the right by the way)


Taxes go up, benefits go down, health services get strained and cut, house prices go up, social housing runs out, the list goes on.


Who really wins?


Business owners - namely *big* business owners. Uber/deliveroo makes billions on paying a low wage to immigrants who will accept it and need help/topping up from the government that they simply would have to pay far more without.
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>>2842462
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/drug-use-by-country
Top 5 countries for drug use per capita 2026
>United States
>Canada
>Australia
>New Zealand
>UK

>>2842534
now break it down by ethnicity

>>2842548
I don’t know why you’re trying so hard to be racist. Are black southerners in the USA “third worlders”?

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>>2842551
Drink bleach swine

>>2842549
I don’t know why you’re trying so hard to be ignore the elephant in the room



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We all hate Elon Musk because he wields immense political power and has exploited the labor of thousands of workers, but is there such a thing as an “ethical rich”? What would happen to YouTubers, singers, and artists during a revolution? Technically, they don’t harm anyone, could someone in a socialist state become wealthy by excelling in art, music, or generally creating something that others really enjoy?
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ethical rich… Engels, Jenny Marx, etc…

>>2839652
>muh elon
Personalism

>>2839652
There’s a level of wealth inequality that is inevitable in even the strictest egalitarian command economy. It’s not bad to get rewards for working harder/more expeditiously, but it has to be done so with guardrails, and must be strictly merit based.

Frankly a wealth cap seems like a dumb solution, we should just have a tax system so exponentially progressive that it becomes functionally impossible to gain into the billions of dollars. Holy shit there are so many avenues the government still has open to be able to plunder these bastards fortunes it would be too easy with real power in America. Too bad that only comes from the barrel of a gun.

>>2839736
This is nonsensical because your logic would apply to any workplace a d its politics. If you are a prole, you are exploited, it is that simple.

>>2841013
he's a good focus for agitprop because he has 577 dollars for every second he's been alive. like literally try to corner someone and ask if it's possible to earn that through hard work. ask them in front of a room of people. if they try to justify it they will just look like a stupid ass bootlicker.



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>fascism, communism, and capitalism are all bad, I came up with a 4th idea
>looks inside
>bourgeois liberal nationalism reinvented
What did he mean by this?
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>>2838029
the freikorps are dead and so are no longer evolving. the very fact that people can only bring posts from 3 years ago exposes everything we need to know

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>>2838008
> "yes we are bigots." "LGBT imperialism." "Call us nazis." what is the usefulness of that other than just triggering people and getting views?
Trying to work up his own following into a froth.

>>2838047
so is the implication that he no longer stands by his own opinions from 3 years ago?

>>2837660
Integralism is just Puritanism/Jacobinism wanting a Republic of Virtue reskinned as Catholic. It's the same shining city on a hill stuff.

>>2838089
of course he does, that other guy just agrees and thinks it's based to scapegoat the FAGGOTS and the TREWNZ for what the evangelical zionists did



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Ban on Palestine Action was lawful, court of appeal rules
In her written judgment, she said: “The future threats and risks posed to third-party individuals and property by Palestine Action are perhaps the most important factors to weigh in the balance. In that connection, it is important to understand that the home secretary is in the best position to assess those future threats and risks. She is advised by experts in anti-terrorism …
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jun/15/ban-on-palestine-action-was-lawful-court-of-appeal-rules

Protesters mark start of G7 summit clash with riot police
Around 20,000 people joined the demonstration that continued into Sunday evening, organised by a coalition of activist groups following negotiations with local authorities. While most of the march remained peaceful, clashes broke out involving around 600 “black bloc” militants, according to Geneva police.https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/protesters-mark-start-g7-summit-clash-riot-police
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/protesters-mark-start-g7-summit-clash-riot-police

EU developing rules to ‘bite hard’ if new members go rogue, says enlargement chief
The European Commission already “has some ideas” on how to strengthen the system, she said, including safeguards and transition periods before certain membership rights are fully granted. The EU executive is consulting member countries concerned that future enlargements could complicate decision-making or allow governments to reverse reforms after accession.
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-rules-enlargement-new-members-marta-kos/
https://archive.ph/9slWc

Settler products from occupied Palestine sold to Europe as Israeli, investigation findsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

AOC's hot streak on endorsements divides the left
While Sanders has endorsed dozens of progressive candidates up and down ballots across the country this year, Ocasio-Cortez has been more choosy.
Some on the left say she's being overly cautious, and reluctant to support progressives who are taking on her Democratic colleagues in the House.
https://www.axios.com/2026/06/14/aoc-endorsements-democrats-winning
https://archive.ph/ZKI1u

No Crocs or baby onesies - the draconian Delaney Hall dress code ICE uses to deem toddlers ‘too provocative’
In one such visit, a guard nearly rejected them because of Soto’s 11-month-old’s onesie, she said. On another occasion, she told the Guardian, Delaney Hall rejected them because Gabriela’s four-year-old daughter was iuyghings. When Gabriela would ask why their clothes weren’t allowed, guards said they were too “provocative”, she said. “How is that provocative if she’s only four years old?” said Gabriela, referring to her daughter.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/15/new-jersey-delaney-hall-immigration-visitor-dress-code

California Gov. Gavin Newsom says Trump’s Justice Department is investigating him and his wife
A person familiar with the matter denied the existence of an investigation specifically targeting the governor, but said there are multiple federal probes into people around him, including one related to his wife’s taxes. That probe began last year, and political leadership in Washington was not involved in the decision to open it, said the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss ongoing investigations.
https://apnews.com/article/newsom-trump-justice-department-a9e5bd1f8c2906c23bd68f3e5b6b3f2f

ICE agent shoots at vehicle after being struck by car, officials in New Jersey say
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Errico Malatesta: Let’s Demolish — and then?
I say that to abolish the gendarmerie, and baleful social institutions of whatever kind, we need to know what we want to replace them with — not in a more or less distant future but now, the very same day the demolition work begins. You cannot really destroy, and permanently, without having what we put in its place. To postpone to a later date the solution to the urgent problems that arise would be to give a breathing space to those same institutions that we want to abolish, to recover from tie received blow and to re-impose themselves once more, perhaps under other names but certainly the same in essence. Our solutions will be accepted by a sufficiently large section of the population and we shall have created anarchy, or at least made a step towards it. Or it may be that they will not have been understood and accepted and in that case our work will serve as propaganda, and will be placed before the general public as the program for the near future. But in any case, we must have our solutions: provisional solutions, no doubt; ones that can be revised and modified in the light of experience, but necessary if we do not wish to endure passively the solutions of others, limiting ourselves to the hardly useful role of grumblers who are both incapable and impotent.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/malatesta/1926/lets-demolish.html

Statement of the European Communist Action on the 2026 G7 Summit, which is dangerous for the interests of the people
The main leaders of the Euro-Atlantic capitalist bloc will meet at the G7 Summit, to be held in Évian, France, from 15 to 17 June 2026, to update capitalist arrangements regarding energy, which is highly costly for the peoples, the so-called security and anti-people governance. The 2026 G7 summit will take place in the context of efforts to halt the consolidation of the capitalist bloc led by China, thanks to its capitalist development, which, in alliance with Russia, is challenging the United States for the status of leading economic power. The European Communist Action condemns the anti-worker and anti-popular orientation and policies of the bourgeois governments of the G7, NATO and the European Union which, amidst the growing contradictions and tensions between major capitalist Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

thank you based news anon 😍️



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Borders are an archaic and barbaric concept. No human is illegal unless they’ve committed a crime. A REAL crime. Not just the crime of being from Mexico. Our immigration systems are purposefully undermined, underfunded, and extremely limited in the amount of people they let in to the point of functional impossibility.

Lynch ICE in the street.

>rights
if the bourgeoisie give you "rights" they can also take them away
>end borders
>no human is illegal
not possible under capitailsm

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OP is peak liberal idealist nonsense. Read a book.



 

This history of socialism shows, with perfect clarity, that a fully planned economy is plainly inferior to a socialist market economy. This is not to say that fully planned economies are bad, they absolutely do have their strengths. But economies that are partially planned, directed rather than dictated, have all of the same strengths, while being infinitely more flexible. The socialism of then may have raised millions out of poverty, but it was the socialism of now century that raised them into luxury, luxury greater than anything the capitalist world has ever been able to provide.

Western "Marxists" are fucking obsessed with the idea of command economies. Half of them say that AES states are not actually socialist; this is wrong. The other half says that AES states have only temporarily adopted markets, and will return to the Golden Path as soon as possible; this is also wrong, and much more egregiously so, be because it requires ignorance of and/or cognitive dissonance towards the official statements and actions made by these nations.

Western "Marxist" arguments in favor of command economies are, likewise generally rooted in ignorance, not understanding that the lifestyles they have/aspire to would be unfeasible within a purely planned system. Those that are not rooted in ignorance are instead rooted in aceticism, in poverty worship, in an intellectual cancer that must be rooted out by whatever means necessary.

Sure, we may, at some point, obviate markets. But it would require a fundamental change in the means of production that, by my calculations, is far, far away from where we are now.

In any case, you would do yourself well to stop worshipping the corpses of Stalin and Mao and join the rest of us in the 21st century.
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>>2804361
why are "liberal" Liberals so fucking smug?

socialism is when you produce things privately so you can exchange them for equivalents on the market

>>2804361
Command economy=State capitalism=fascism=capitalism in decay
They didn't lose they just revived capitalism and outgrew it's usefulness to rehabilitate the economy.

>>2840465
Yank cuck wants to throw stones

>>2804361
<This history of socialism shows, with perfect clarity, that a fully planned economy is plainly inferior to a socialist market economy. This is not to say that fully planned economies are bad, they absolutely do have their strengths. But economies that are partially planned, directed rather than dictated, have all of the same strengths, while being infinitely more flexible. The socialism of then may have raised millions out of poverty, but it was the socialism of now century that raised them into luxury, luxury greater than anything the capitalist world has ever been able to provide. Western "Marxists" are fucking obsessed with the idea of command economies. Half of them say that AES states are not actually socialist; this is wrong. The other half says that AES states have only temporarily adopted markets, and will return to the Golden Path as soon as possible; this is also wrong, and much more egregiously so, be because it requires ignorance of and/or cognitive dissonance towards the official statements and actions made by these nations. Western "Marxist" arguments in favor of command economies are, likewise generally rooted in ignorance, not understanding that the lifestyles they have/aspire to would be unfeasible within a purely planned system. Those that are not rooted in ignorance are instead rooted in aceticism, in poverty worship, in an intellectual cancer that must be rooted out by whatever means necessary. Sure, we may, at some point, obviate markets. But it would require a fundamental change in the means of production that, by my calculations, is far, far away from where we are now. In any case, you would do yourself well to stop worshipping the corpses of Stalin and Mao and join the rest of us in the 21st century.
OP regardless of China its not really true that planned economies are worse and in any case computers are advanced enough now to have a fully planned economy was more efficient and better than the USSR ever did, and doing a market economy in 202X let alone after is opportunism. The fundamental change you sought was already completed arguably in the 80s/90s its just that the USSR already got taken over by revisionists and lost interest in planned economies and communism in general by then



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