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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>FIGHT FOR FREEDOM Edition


💀List of Deaths in ICE Detention💀
https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

📺 Glowie News 📺
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>>2696395
>american right wingers consider hitler a leftist lmao
wow… conservatives taking bribes from AIPAC called hitler a leftist? tell me more.

>>2696389
Ok, better example: the US takes the reigns of fucking Iran after the British empire collapses. Do the proles react with a socialist revolution? No. The socialists JOIN the revolution, thinking they can co-opt it, but the proles instead hitched their wagon to medieval-tier reactionary theocrats who think secular society of any kind was a mistake. Their solution to being fucked by American capitalists was to submit themselves to being fucked by book-thumbing geezers screeching that everyone they don't like needs to be hanged because God says so or whatever.

>>2695615
You're letting the discussion drag on for too long and get away from what matters: surplus-value is theft. Why should I be mad the government takes 30% of my salary when my boss takes 90% before that? In fact, the government takes only 3% of what I produce.

>>2695722
I never got why voting ID is even an issue to you burgers. Just pass a federal law requiring SSN to vote and be done with it, one less political football for the uniparty culture wars.

>>2696647
That’s how it already is, you need a SSN and address to vote. So our system already disenfranchises the homeless, the republicans push for this voter ID shit so they can add as much bureaucracy to voting as possible.



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Curious what people's thoughts on Liberia are.

It was founded by freed slaves, but there must have been people there. Was there the same kind of contradiction that we see in Palestine with the Israeli colonizers? Or in the US/Canada with Indigenous? Or was it peaceful
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Also the first president Liberia had who wasn't a warlord of Americo-Liberean slaveowner, was a literal banker who worked for the world bank.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Johnson_Sirleaf

>>2677853
It started of as a settler colonial state, not sure what's going on now

>>2696338
Americo liberians have more or less stopped existing and have intermarried with natives since the end of the True Whig party

>>2678269
Those pics are from 30 years ago when there was a civil war though. Like it's a third-world country, one of the poorest in the world, but seems like people's points of reference are out of date.

>>2678253
vice's coverage was way hardcore



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Fuck the working class in first world countries, they don't care about the working class of poor countries. There's no international "proletarian solidarity". I support the interclass struggle of oppressed nations to oppose imperial domination.

Fuck America
Fuck Zionism
Glory to the resistance
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>>2649164
>the retards in this cesspool
you mean western leftists?

>>2644497
>There's no international "proletarian solidarity". I support the interclass struggle
Yeah! Hail Sakai and Israel!

>Fuck the working class in first world countries
This is a dumb take, I hate when people do this. The working class in the first world are crucial because they need to read the most so they can overthrow their governments and stop the oppression of the third world.

>>2647095
Are you sure?

>>2644606
Cushy tech jobs are being outsourced overseas and already heavily rely on Indian migrant workers. I think that the town-country contradiction and the division of mental and physical labor is already being erased by telework. It's just cheaper to hire Indian engineers. There's still a very big difference in circumstances today but just give it a few decades and the contradiction between mental and physical labor will melt away.



 

How far up the spectrum was Karl Marx?

You can't tell me this mad lad doesn't have plenty of autism traits. The absolute unit just doesn't give a fuck.
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>>2669076
so, "we don't need theory, just action" people existed from the beginning huh

>>2668373
With adhd

Autism is a bourgeois concept to identify those that can't as easily participate in productive labour as others.
This fetishizing by the Tumblr left of autism has done a great disservice to alleged autistic people's and the general population.

>>2668273
When Marx is writing about numbers and the mechanics of a system he can sound dry and autistic but at other times he's witty, subtle, and soulful so I disagree.

>>2696286
You can be autistic and witty anon



 

Can anyone explain to me why China is viewed as a wonderland that reflects all communist/leftist desires? What about the vanished political journalists? The cadaver museums? The coffin homes? The social credit score? I'm sure it does a lot of good but whenever I see a hardcore leftist speak on China they just salivate over the trains
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>>2683186
>What about muh liberal-democratic issues? Why can't I voot and pick which capitalist-class representative will baamboozle and manipulate me for the next 4 years? And why can't I read liberal newspapers written by compromised "journalists" who glow in the dark? Come on goy, just open up and liberalize your country so it can be easily raped and exploited by the global high-finance elite.
Nope.

>Can anyone explain to me why China is viewed as a wonderland that reflects all communist/leftist desires?
Wrong. China is Communist—a nation where working peoples have liberated themselves. This is far from wonderland. Communism is not fairy tale.
>What about the vanished political journalists?
Who
>The cadaver museums?
Science
>The coffin homes?
Per capita floor area of Chinese urban residents exceeds 40 square meters https://english.www.gov.cn/news/202408/23/content_WS66c88eb4c6d0868f4e8ea341.html
>The social credit score?
What about it
>I'm sure it does a lot of good but whenever I see a hardcore leftist speak on China they just salivate over the trains
China is the engine of history.

>>2683750
Why do mods leave this anti-Communist spam up


>>2683186
I'm too lazy to find the quote but somewhere Engels talks about how of course state capitalism is not socialism but it's a primitive step towards it so hey it's better than nothing although I'm sure someone might say it's not even state capitalism because there's too many small businesses.



 

Mine is Bill Clinton.
>let people get slaughtered at the LA riots while the National Guard did nothing
>killed a man's 14 year old son and wife as she held her baby in her arms after feds targeted the man's house when US marshals lured the man's family dog out on the lawn so they could shoot it, but it backfired after they killed it and the family friend (Kevin Harris) fired back, killing US marshal Degan (rest in piss)
>killed 88 people in the Waco siege when feds besieged a church (which the media erroneously referred to as "a compound"), including men, women, children, the elderly and four of their own agents they killed to blame the Branch Davidians (you can clearly see an officer shoot himself in the leg while climbing up the steps to the roof while another three got killed inside from shots coming from outside the house that you can clearly see didn't come from within the building because you can see bulletholes in the roof from an armed attack helicopter. Federal agents and marshals posed with the rubble over the children they just burned alivs, tortured via sleep deprivation and bright floodlights for months.
>invaded Kosovo and ethnically cleansed Serbs for the Albanian terrorists (KOSOVO JE SRBIJA!)
>passed the AWB (Assault weapons Ban) in 1994, which really solidified everything wrong with this cocksucker of a president.
>passed the first federal sex offender registry laws… even though he took flights to Epstein island
>passed anti-black crime bills that used overpolicing as a tactic to reduce the crime problem
Fuck. This. Cocksucker. And Lyndon Baines Johnson is burning in hell right now.
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>>2686219
Real, very historically progressive

Bush W
Iraq and Afghanistan killed millions
Patriot act

>>2685975
He did another of good shit because it was inevitable at the time if the zionazis didn't kill Kennedy he would have brought us to demkcraric bourgoise socialism

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>>2685855
>File name
let's not let that get in the way of the id/pol/atry



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>B-b-but Ukraine is run by Nazis!
Ukraine wasn't ran by Nazis, that's just what Putin wants you to believe while he sold Russia out to "traditional" patriotism. How the fuck am i going to explain to a Russian nationalist puppet that Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada is composed of this -
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>>2695609
>there is no good outcome in this story
the US EU split that seems to be happening could be a good outcome, but im not sure if its really happening

>>2695628
when was the last time the US bombed your country?

>>2695724
>I agree with you that Ukraine is not a nazi/fascist state (in the sense that it's not even remotely similar to Nazi Germany and/or Fascist Italy)
what a retarded thing to say lol
you do know you can be fascist without doing the "WE WUZ ROMANS AND SHIT" larp, right?

>>2695761
To tell a fascist to stop being cringe is an exercise in futility.

>>2695628
Uyghur have the Chinese or the Russians done anything close to the imperialist slaughter the US has done?
You are retarded that doesn't understand historical materialism.



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I'm working on furthering my education and have heard about this guy Gabriel Rockhill. I'm about 100 pages into his book and am enjoying it so far, but man I was shocked by how much hate the guy gets online from other academics and podcasters/commentators.

The guys thesis is pretty much that after the second world war many European academics from the Frankfurt School got CIA money and appointments due to government connections. Is this guy just a tinfoil hat or do you back this take?
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>>2668625
the OSS? very weird time period for american intelligence where you'd have the OSS working with communists in China and Vietnam while more or less open fascists like Charles Willoughby were doing intelligence work in the Phillipines and Papua new guinea.





>>2696029
there's a discussion to be had about Stalin being a bonapartist but I always found the great man theory view that he was ruling like somesort of personalist absolute monarch to not only be ahistorical but also not really get how modern states function in general. Even fascist leaders like hitler and ᴉuᴉlossnW that did try personalist rule in the modern era immediately faced internal opposition from the power blocs that put them there as well as sabotage there own State in the process.

>>2696035
libs are so chopped for having there supposed "anti-authoritarian" theorist be a segregationist having a situationship with Heidegger

>>2696063
>there's a discussion to be had about Stalin being a bonapartist but I always found the great man theory view that he was ruling like somesort of personalist absolute monarch to not only be ahistorical but also not really get how modern states function in general.
My post had nothing to do with Stalin's actual position in power and everything with what the CIA at the time thought it was. There's a document of testimony from a Soviet informant given TO the CIA that people who learn history from internet memes have convinced themselves was actual some statement by CIA higher-ups about the organization's opinion, when the document itself says otherwise.

>>2696063
Also even the most perfect autocracy is going to in practice be ruled by some sort of collective leadership of ministers, generals, etc. Every autocrat has an inner circle of advisors and confidants that they collaborate with when making decisions. Even Hitler, despite his infallibility being enshrined in German law by the Fuhrerprincip, made decisions collectively alongside Goring, Himmler, Goebbels, the OKW, etc. The CIA document about collective leadership of the politburo is just meant to clarify the fact that Stalin was not a literal God King as their propaganda depicted him. However even the way the described him in that document (as "captain of the team") is still perfectly consistent with how all autocracies operate in practice.

>>2696072
>The CIA document about collective leadership of the politburo is just meant to clarify the fact that Stalin was not a literal God King as their propaganda depicted him.
The CIA document was not some creation of the CIA to remind their own agents, it was a statement by an informant trying to explain to the CIA that their understanding was wrong. There are plenty of other internal CIA documents saying that Stalin was a deranged megalomaniac God figure from the same time period.

>>2668621
>Philosophy and the study of the actual world have the same relation to one another as onanism and sexual love
Philosonanists btfo.



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As you all know America has been trying to punish Cuba for 67 years (Don't you dare) for freeing themselves from American Neo-colonialism. Trump has imposed tariffs on countries that trade with Cuba and obviously America has already been doing that with the Embargo but this is different because the embargo only prevents ships that have traded with Cuba, the tariffs affect the entire country. I think that these tariffs will affect the material conditions in Cuba but it won't collapse the government, but this is also concerning because the real threat is America invading Cuba like Venezuela, even though the last time America invaded Cuba it didn't go so well this time things are different. America docent use troop-ships to land and engage in traditional combat, America is too pussy for that, instead America uses drones so Cuba would be demolished in war. The only difference between Cuba and Venezuela is that in Cuba there is no opposition movement within the country, outside the country there is the Gusano-lobby of course but there is none of that within the country and I think that the Cuban people might resist and it could turn into an Afghanistan. Because Amerikkka wants to enslave the cuban people and turn them into Amazon warehouse workers and use there island as one giant Epstein-Island and I think that the Cubans won't like that because I'm sure that many of them have read books.
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>>2677821
What trend is leading right now? The centrists?

>>2678860
Communism? What's that?

Dont worry theyre also too cheap to use fiber optic drones. So since you know use radio jammers.

>>2673065
Yeah but rubio is seething that they overthrew the diactator that tortured his family

dont listen to the Western psyops



 

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>>2677950
the thumbnail is dead

>>2680334
Not a big deal, it was gossipy rubbish just to have a laugh…
Anyway, another public meeting with Chris Smalls in Milan tomorrow:
https://contropiano.org/eventi/da-minneapolis-a-milano-ice-out-incontro-con-chris-smalls

Boop

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