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Переможный, переговорный, пятнадцатотравневый.

Продолжаем трястись и ждать мобку.
Лолируем с красных фашистов, пыняславов и чучхеисов - вместе.
Переезжаем в тюмень, так как там нефтяная мекка и все жрут черную икру поварешками.
Левый поворот путина будет… надо только подождать… еще лет двадцать.
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>>2763064
Hot take:Browderism actually was the closest successful attempt that Americans could had towards socialism at the time and would have won even more achievements greater if FDR-Wallace continued and not died with FDR in the grave

О-о-о, пидорас проснулся.

>>2277345
>one nation, under kim, indivisible, with surveillance and behavior control for all

>>2781374
LIBSHIT LIBSHIT LIBSHIT LIBSHIT LIBSHIT LIBSHIT

>>2780288
Пришли в цирк посмеяться с долбоебов-сектантов, например?



 

Campaigners demand government cancel South East Water's contract after bosses admit to failings
Tunbridge Wells suffered a sustained outage in November and December before thousands of properties across Kent and Sussex saw their supply disrupted in January. Many people were left without drinking water for days, unable to shower or bathe and could not flush their toilets, while a number of schools were forced to close.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/campaigners-demand-government-cancel-south-east-waters-contract-after-bosses-admit-failings

Greek police accused of using migrant ‘mercenaries’ in violent pushbacks at Turkish border
These men, often themselves arrested after irregularly crossing into Greece, were allegedly pressured into collaborating with the police in exchange for temporary protection from deportation or other benefits. Testimonies gathered by journalists describe a pattern of systematic violence and humiliation.
https://www.newarab.com/news/greek-police-accused-using-migrant-mercenaries-pushbacks

Italy suspends defence agreement with Israel
Approved by Israel in 2006, the agreement is renewed automatically every five years. It calls for cooperation across defence industries, education and training of military personnel, research and development, and information technology. Meloni’s right-wing government has been one of Israel’s closest allies in Europe, but in recent weeks, it has criticised Israeli attacks on Lebanon.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/14/italian-suspends-defence-agreement-with-israel
https://archive.ph/lmbMl

Meta 'financially enabling' Israeli settler violence against Palestinians, report says
According to the 7amleh, the Arab Center for the Advancement of Social Media, Meta has allowed settler-affiliated accounts and extremist media ouPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Dozens detained in New York City protest over US arms sales to Israel
Dozens of protesters were detained by police in New York City on Monday during demonstrations calling for the blocking ​of arms sales to Israel and an end to U.S. ‌military support for its ally. Demonstrators included antiwar group Jewish Voice for Peace, which said around 90 people were detained. Among those detained was whistleblower Chelsea Manning, a former ​U.S. Army soldier and WikiLeaks source.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/dozens-detained-new-york-city-protest-over-us-arms-sales-israel-2026-04-14/

GOP campaigns go all-in on AI — Dems not so much
The White House's digital shop sets the tone for the GOP's aggressive approach, firing off AI-generated social media posts boosting Trump and blasting his critics. The National Republican Senatorial Committee is using AI to create ads, analyze data and identify new small donors, according to an NRSC spokesperson.
https://www.axios.com/2026/04/14/republicans-ai-campaigns-democrats-2026
https://archive.ph/G59yd

United Airlines CEO reportedly pitched merger with American, sparking competition fears
Scott Kirby, who leads United, raised the prospect during an encounter with the US president in late February, Reuters reported, citing two unnamed sources. Such a deal would overhaul the global air travel industry – and would likely face intense competition scrutiny.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/apr/14/united-airlines-merger-american-airlines

Ohio’s nursing homes are dumping patients at homeless shelters
A woman using a walker had shown up, incontinent and carrying “a large bag of medications.” She was diabetic, managing a tibia fracture and alcohol-related dementia, and she was “dumped” at the shelter, according to federal inspectors.
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Hungary’s Fake “Democratic” Revolution — From Orbán’s Mafia to Péter Magyar’s Neoliberal Circus
The international liberal commentariat is celebrating again. Viktor Orbán, the long-reigning right-wing strongman of Hungary, has been defeated in the April 2026 elections by Péter Magyar, a slick, photogenic opposition leader who stormed to power in a matter of months. Headlines scream “democracy wins,” “Orbánism is over,” and “a new dawn for Europe.” Don’t believe a word of it. This is not a victory for the left, for working people, or for any genuine progressive force. It was a squalid palace coup within Hungary’s corrupt political elite — a transfer of power from one faction of the ruling class to another, dressed up as a heroic popular uprising. The Hungarian people did not win. They simply exchanged one set of oligarchs for another.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2026/04/14/hungarys-fake-democratic-revolution-from-orbans-mafia-to-peter-magyars-neoliberal-circus/

ALPRs and Minneapolis’ Growing Discriminatory Surveillance Dragnet
In Minneapolis, like in other cities across the United States, cameras cover the tops of light poles like barnacles revealed by a low tide. Motorists are no stranger to their growing ubiquity and mostly pay no mind to them as if they’re another natural part of the urban ecosystem, no different than all of the cigarette butts and wrappers on the street. In the last several years, however, a new apex predator of surveillance has emerged largely unnoticed. The Minneapolis Police Department (MPD) and private businesses have been installing Automatic License Plate Readers (ALPRs) at numerous locations, little cameras perched in discreet locations like ugly, bald-headed vultures that make CCTV cameras seem archaic in comparison. ALPRs, as the name suggests, automatically read license plates, often with the help of artificial intelligence, and store that data for later without the need for any human eyes. There’s not much limiting them to plate numbers, though: they’re able to recognize the vehicle itself by color, scratches and even cargo. MPD’s ALPR cameras alone, set up at 30 intersections in the city, collected data at all hours every single day on more than 31 million vehicles in thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

Within the West the left has a common circular conversation: We need to organize, we need a movement independent of liberal political parties, we need independent working class power. The common response: there's no sufficient labor movement, people are too atomized, they no longer live and work in proximity in ways that makes them easily reachable, existing platforms prevent dissemination of our message, etc.

What if the people need to come together to be reached, and what if they get what they need for their liberation, and what they are missing in their lives under capitalism such as community aid and belonging, in a church?

Consider the conditions under which Christianity arose. The older religions including Greco-Roman pantheon worship had declined. They had by no means lost their popularity completely but the awe of the primal forces of nature and the fatalistic philosophical personification and deification of aspects of human behavior no longer spoke as effectively to the increasingly urban masses where the bronze age conditions that inspired the religion in the first place were increasingly remote and abstract. Major rituals and festival were increasingly done by rote or performatively by elites for their political careers, or for the celebrations more than the meaning beneath them. Christianity filled that void, the thought of taking on the sins and failures and brutality of humanity from the top down and dying to absolve the human soul, the thought of an all encompassing and compassionate architecture to the universe and their place in it gave people more awe than witnessing a lightning storm or an earthquake.

We all know how things went since, there's more to criticize about Christianity's history than we have time to go over. But now we find ourselves once again in similar conditions for something new. Religious membership is declining in the west, the remaining membership are either increasingly secularized and bourgeois or increasingly hyper-reactionary or lumpen. These institutions are not able to speak to the problems of the day or any solution for them on a theological or material basis. If the old church was the theological logic of feudalism to come in the shadow of rome, if protestantism was the theological logic of capitalism to come in the shadow of feudalism, then something new whether christian or something distinct can be the theological logic of what is to come after capitalism and more people Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2781171
> why did no atheist here ever question the historicity of Jesus, the gospels or the authorship of the Bible, despite ample room to do so?

>And I do think that’s the big issue overall: In actual leftist spaces, few are willing to take on Christian theology.


christian theology and the historicity of jesus are two different questions. there probably is a historical figure who became the basis for early christianity. whether he even closely resembles the jesus of the four gospels (written between 70 and 150 CE) is a different question entirely. The fringe hypothesis of Caesar's Messiah says that the gospels were fabricated by Titus and Josephus to create a pacifistic form of Judaism that would submit to Rome. While that is possible the evidence is circumstantial, and even if it were true, it is not incompatible with a historical Jesus who they based their fabricated religion around. Imagine if a few hundred years from now a religion sprung up around some half-remembered political martyr from the 20th century. The question of a historical Jesus isn't a question of whether the character Jesus existed but whether that character was based on a forgotten real person or not.

>>2781171
>That goes for both idpol-type stuff and economic policy. Like, the Bible never calls for property abolition ever, not even in the passages liberation theologians use as talking points
i'm with you on most of this post but I gotta say Acts 4:32 comes pretty close
<All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had.

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The glaring issue is that this does go against the commandment on not coveting for other’s goods as well as the prohibition of theft that rests on the notion of private property.

Honestly, this cuts into what I think is the crux of the issue: Most socialist and capitalist Christians often overlook the fact that Christianity, at the end of the day, is a pre-modern religion that began as a bunch of multiple and often conflicting sects before being consolidated (albeit incomplete) into the Catholic Church, and as such the Bible doesn’t have an economic theory that neatly fits into either capitalism or communism/socialism since both capitalist and socialist economic theories arose as products of modernity, although to be fair modernity in itself is heavily influenced by Christianity via either acceptance or rejection of it.

Overall, while I do think Christianity is closer to socialism than the free-market dogmatism that characterises right-libertarian nutjobs, Christianity doesn’t exactly affirm socialism either.

Anyway, please do read the following article for I think it provides good counter-rebuttals to many of the liberation theology arguments as it concerns economics, and does provide some interesting takes for all sides of this thread’s debate: https://billmuehlenberg.com/2016/05/30/bible-private-property/

>>2780621
not really. most atheism is entirely passive. you wouldn't say that sitting on the couch is a sport.
you're on much stronger ground when you recognize that many "non-religious" things (which both religious and non-religious people take part in) are basically ersatz religions without the supernatural nonsense: politics, fandoms, etc.

and, for religious people in the first world, the substitute is often clearly stronger than the "real deal" (e.g. non-zero numbers of US christians would spurn a returning Christ if he got on the wrong side of Donald J. Trump.)

>>2780621
>"Atheism" is a religion no matter how much it tries to reject
this accusation is better reseved for civic religions like confucianism or american civic religion, or the roman cult of the emperor. vid highly related btw
>>2781201
>you're on much stronger ground when you recognize that many "non-religious" things (which both religious and non-religious people take part in) are basically ersatz religions without the supernatural nonsense: politics, fandoms, etc.
this



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The American 'working class' produce zero surplus value through their net nonproductive labor and physically cannot sustain themselves due to deindustrialization. Each and every single lumpen settler owes more than forty trillion in exports to repay their debt to the rest of the planet and survives off the surplus labor of non-americans from Berlin to Siberia. Even ignoring the countless acts of terrorism committed by the burgereich, the consumerism of treats must end. As the pedotariat of epsteinland must work for several years and export to maybe repay even 30 percent of what occupied turtle island owes to the non-american surplus value producing global proletariat.

Any strawman that does not address the largest trade deficit that will ever exist shall be ignored.
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>>2741359
>Give back the surplus value
Why are you begging the ruling class to overthrow itself? Haven't you read your own theorists?

>>2741449
Thank goodness for me and my class that it takes a lot of effort to listen to you and zero effort to do more moralist revenge fantasy shitposting that divides the class I exploit!

>>2778286
Why would they work hard for free? Have you learned nothing?

>>2741387
that's not how surplus value works lol. Surplus value isn't when you make physical goods. marx considered service workers productive workers. but also proletariat =/= productive worker. teachers, home servants, accountants are all non productive but would definitely still be working class.

Also you third worldists never can respond to the fact that its arguably the most well off and comfortable who revolt, usually after a disturbance in their lifestyle. The russian revolution was arguably started by the petrogad metalworkers, who were unionized and were some of the highest earners and most comfortable workers in all of russia. Similarly the french revolution was started by the bourgeosie, not the starving peasants, and the american revolution was started by the colonial elite, not the slaves or poor farmers

>>2782035
also the slave mode of production of late european antiquity wasn't overthrown by the slaves, but gradually reformed away by the lords of manorial estates in the aftermath of the collapse of the roman empire and the carving up of the latifundia



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Is there something positive about the Zionist entity from a historical point of view? I mean there are a lot of episodes in history where one could could call evil (the mongols, Nazism etc') but there were still some positive things about these events. However this could not be said for the Zionist entity. It's completely parasitic and contributed nothing to mankind (inb4 instant messaging and other Israeli startup "inventions").
Has there something like this in history?
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>>2777018
>revived

They didn't revive shit, they basically just took Yiddish and adjusted it to give it a more "Middle Eastern" flavor. Actual Hebrew is deader than the dodo.

>>2776947
The only thing that can be said is that they accelerated the decline of the united states. Otherwise no, they’re actually just fucking cancer. Even their scientific achievements could have been done better elsewhere.

>>2776947
>Is there something positive about the Zionist entity from a historical point of view?
I'd reframe it from "something positive" to "something rational" for Jews to get into Zionism. That doesn't justify it. Like you might say the attraction of Jews to Zionism substituted for socialism when that was just not working out in the 20th century, because a lot of the Jewish communists died in the Holocaust, and the Soviet Union by the 1950s/1960s really wasn't as great for them as people make it out to have been. Also beware of Stalinists who get into a bad habit of automatically justifying whatever happens in history as historical necessity so things unfold in ways they "should."

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They do shit like this, yet if you say anything bad about God's Chosen People you still get instabanned and censored from this site.

>>2776947
they produce a lot of pharmaceuticals? Idk, I'm at a loss.



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The day they showed weakness and failed to defend their Muslim brothers it was the day judeochristian whites began with a series of oppressions and atrocities such as the genocide of circassians, the bosnian genocide, the genocide of balkan muslims, zionism (arab genocide), the war on """"terror"""" by judeochristians responsible for the holocaust of 10 million Muslims and the displacement of 38 millions, etc and etc…

All this horror will end when the Ummah unites once again, destroy Israel, build nukes and point them at every single judeochristian european and american capital

Karl Marx offered critical support to the Ottomans in their war against Tsarist Russia, weather or not if they were the “Last line of defense” is a different debate though

>>2781757
>All this horror will end when the Ummah unites once again
not gonna happen

>>2781764
They were and history proved it

>>2781764
Interesting to see what he would've thought about WW1.



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The problem with you marxists is that you require people to spend their lives reading and interpreting the works and life of Marx (and its followers).
I don't like Marx, that's enough for me to not be interested in anything that comes from him.
Is that so hard to understand?
I am a leftist, by the way.
I would prefer spend my life reading the works of John Stuart Mill rather than Karl Marx.
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I will mention that the falsification presented by our anarchists above have been deboonked already by comrade Koba
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1906/12/x01.htm

>To proceed. Our "celebrated" Anarchists heard somewhere that Marx's materialism was a "belly theory," and so they rebuke us, Marxists, saying :


<"In the opinion of Feuerbach, man is what he eats. This formula had a magic effect on Marx and Engels," and, as a consequence, Marx drew the conclusion that "the main and primary thing is economic conditions, relations of production. . . ." And then the Anarchists proceed to instruct us in a philosophical tone: "It would be a mistake to say that the sole means of achieving this object of social life) is eating and economic production. . . . If ideology were determined mainly, monistically, by eating and economic conditions—then some gluttons would be geniuses" (see Nobati, No. 6. Sh. G.).


>You see how easy it is to refute the materialism of Marx and Engels! It is sufficient to hear some gossip in the street from some schoolgirl about Marx and


>Engels, it is sufficient to repeat that street gossip with philosophical aplomb in the columns of a paper like Nobati, to leap into fame as a "critic" of Marxism!


>But tell me, gentlemen: Where, when, on which planet, and which Marx did you hear say that "eating determines ideology"? Why did you not cite a single sentence, a single word from the works of Marx to back your assertion? True, Marx said that the economic conditions of men determine their consciousness, their ideology, but who told you that eating and economic conditions are the same thing? Don't you really know that physiological phenomena, such as eating, for example, differ fundamentally from sociological phenomena, such as the economic conditions of men, for example? One can forgive a schoolgirl, say, for confusing these two different phenomena; but how is it that you, the "vanquishers of Social-Democracy," "regenerators of science," so carelessly repeat the mistake of a schoolgirl?

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>>2781806
I will not read your stupid book. I will read On Liberty instead. Have a nice day.

While OP is obvious bait, we really do need people that have actual technical writing skills to write these things in a non-poetry format.



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The counter-culture revolution did not end, it simply turned inward. After the 1970s it became clear that the Empire was far too vast and powerful to destroy through use of external force, so the counter-culture retreated and reformulated their strategy - instead of trying to liberate the world, they would liberate their own minds. Knowledge would be their weaponry, knowledge about the world but more importantly knowledge about themselves. Every lie they were programmed to believe about who they were and what their lives meant would be called into question, analyzed, deconstructed, traced back to its origins, and irrevocably refuted with undeniable logic and empirical evidence. When the Empire became aware of what they were doing it correctly interpreted this on an attack on its very foundations and predictably retaliated with its conventional tactics of violence and disinformation, thus began the Culture War that we now find ourselves in. But thus far the counterattack has been wild and flailing and largely ineffective, failing to identify a strategic target, the so-called "Woke Mind Virus" seeming to originate from everywhere at once with no central source. The Empire's greatest weakness is its inhumanity, its inability to see inside of the human mind and understand human psychology; the Empire is solipsistic and behaviorist, it does not recognize the human spirit, it only sees people as subordinate machines that must be conditioned to behave and obey. Nurse Ratched can stop the patients in the ward from watching the baseball game, but she cannot stop them from pretending to watch it and cheering and roaring in delight at a blank television screen.

What you dismiss as "identity politics", as some minor irrelevant distraction from the revolution-to-be, is in fact the front lines of the very real and current Revolution. The Revolution is not some future external event like the Christian rapture, it is happening right now and has always been happening since the beginning of history. The Revolution takes place in the mind - the protests, the riots, the dissenting literature, all of those things are just outward expressions of it. And the Revolution has been slowly but surely succeeding, the Empire's grip gradually weakening day by day as the People gain more knowledge, learning things that cannot be unlearned, speaking truths that cannot be unspoken. Because real Truth is eternal and absolute, it cannot be corrupted and it stands on its own whereas Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2778607
I disagree, you'll never convince anyone of anything if you don't try to understand why they view things the way they do.

>>2778995
Not sure who the liberals are really trying to convince by taking crates of Dildos all across the country yesterday.

>>2778604
>this is your brain on neoliberalism

I think you're confusing your terminology. Neoliberalism is laissez-faire economics, individualism, no social safety nets, etc. The term you should have used is just liberalism, which in America usually refers to the Democratic Party which has a tendency to pander to a very narrow set of non-economic socially-liberal concerns. I understand why you would make that assumption, but it's a false equivalency to think that just because someone talks about the importance of marginalized people's problems then they must be a liberal.

I think the term that would best describe my position is psycho-anarchism because the main idea of my post was about focusing political efforts inward on one's own psychology, liberating the mind from authoritarian/fascist/imperialist/conservative/neoliberal/solipsistic indoctrination and attacking the problem at its very source so that the instruments of tyranny will be rendered ineffective and the Empire will naturally wither away and die.

What we have been experiencing since the fall of the USSR in the west, Is akin to entangling a massive "Gordian Knot". Alas, the writers of the fable have the opposite intentions. No legitimacy is given to working around the tangle. One is expected to play in the ever expanding enemy's ground, by the enemy's rules, ever changing.

>>2778560
>Identity-politics probably was once revolutionary, but has long since become co-opted by the establishment to be used to make a profit.

Thats how I feel about it, really the final frontier of social justice is to end the commodification of identity itself. If you ain't striving for that all you're doing is wasting energy fighting the managed "culture war". Were the ruling class will forever tip the scales back in forth as needed to this or that side.



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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desiring-production

Nothing more to elaborate, watch the video if you're looking for a starting point.
Deleuze & Guattari are certainly the more interesting of the pedophile bunch to sign the french petition. They brought some useful concepts. Everyone will remember them as the french pedophiles until the end of time now that they did that and only pseuds in their 20s will revere them.

You can read them through Nick Land instead of reading from D&G to Land, its like faster that way, you don't need to understand any of it, its not analysis its creating concepts, that's what Deleuze called philosophy - the discipline of creating concepts / ideas (sic).

Watch the word-plays, language games, read Wittgenstein, same shit as "order-words". Watch it.
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>>2781070
>>2781166
Age of consent laws are a 20th century feminist invention to regulate male choice for mating, but maybe theyre still a good thing? Universal suffrage is also a 20th century invention.

>>2781166
Using the mother of Jesus as an example is prime stupid since she was canonically a virgin at the time

based dolce+gabana

>>2781371

you think you got touché? you did not get touché, you are just stupid.

the point is that marriage to Joseph was normal and not an issue



>>2781366

partially, they are also a uniquely western pathological social sickness of prolonging childhood, as an exploitable market

childhood did not really exist until it became a new way for capitalist to sell toys, then schooling debt to impressionable fresh minds

I'm not against these laws at all, society progresses, but I am against setting them irrationally, not factoring in the different biologies of men and women (girls mature early precisely to procreate faster), hence why they have reached levels of retardation not seen even during Victorian times, such as vilifying older men who are attracted biologically peak female fertility
it makes no sense to be attracted to older women since attractive older women are the ones that retain those very characteristics of youth.

Does this mean a 45 year old should be able to marry a 15 year old ? Not necessarily, in capitalism and market economies that older man uses his exploited resources to acquire her. This is abusive.
But some might be organically attracted to each other, and previous societies, or contemporary rational ones regulate this socially.



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>>2781482
Obviously they meddle in primaries to undermine the progressive wing, but they also genuinely drink the koolaid that their way of doing things works. It's nepobabies leeching off of the elderly by promoting bad ideas. That's why they don't have power. It's not simply that they are losing on purpose.
We've already seen what they do when they do have power - they engage in half-measures and find excuses to not do anything for workers, while keeping the capitalist ship steady. That's what a Newsom/etc presidency with control over Congress would look like. That is what they want, it's not something they're trying to avoid. They are just bad at getting there.

>>2781491

newsome, and anyone younger than 70, can't win.
bernie is unironically the dems only change in 2028.

>>2781448
Oh, ya. Every 4 years lady can help us

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>>2781305
>A tucker presidency is best-case scenario
imagine the big fell for that again trophy awards for you people.



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