/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2909173
/pol/ has been a racist shithole long before any takeover

I am American. I was raised to be a liberal by a broken working class family full of white and black bastards from the South. I was raised by grandparents after my mulatto single mother failed to raise me on her own (late teen pregnancy situation; barely legal). She wanted to abort me but couldn't afford it. The man who got her pregnant was a white possibly autistic (not diagnosed but everyone suspects it) failson who was almost 30 and self-ostracized from a very liberal-democrat but nevertheless very rich bourgeois family. I have a very loose relationship with both of my biological parents and both of them are quite incompetent in their own unique ways. My mother was a teen runaway and did a lot of drugs and had a lot of bad shit happen to her. My dad was a white dork who had life handed to him on a silver platter and still somehow fucked up because he's a lazy nerd who can't keep a job. They are both gen X, but on opposite ends of gen X due to the age gap.

All this to say I was raised lib. But in a very unusual situation, and with a lot of peripheral family members being working class chuds like my uncle who is a trump voter and a bit of a racist despite having asian people and black people who are his blood relatives. Despite being raised to be a lib by my grandparents, my mother is an anarchist and my father at one point believed in "horseshoe theory" until Trump derangement syndrome made him realize in his 50s that horseshoe theory is stupid.

But I discovered Communism after basically constantly getting accused of being communist while describing my political thoughts online. This was back in the mid to late 00s because I am no longer young. But I discovered communism. Turns out the people who accused me of being Communist didn't actually know what Communism is, and think social democracy is Communism. But thanks to them I had my curiosity piqued and started reading Marx.

Am I still Communist? Well that's a different story. But I will never be a liberal, anarchist, conservative, or reactionary. I am probably some kind of strange synthesis of social democrat and Communist. I don't think we are going to get anything like the 20th century Marxist-Leninist regimes again, but I also realize the point people make about the imperial core lifestyle being unsustainable and social democracy being the moderate wing of fascism. I can't be an anarchist because they strike me as having no real theory, just vague anti-authoritarian feeliPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2907754
>Both my parents are card-carrying members of the country's Communist Party who made major sacrifices for what they believed in. The entirety of my mother's side of the family were Communists, including my maternal grandfather and great-grandfather. They were persecuted by the security services. Fired from their jobs, exiled from the country, imprisoned, tortured, etc. Both my parents had warrants out for their arrest, with the implication that they would be executed.
It must be an honor to be their child. May you follow in their footsteps.
>None of that matters because online Western Marxists would still call my parents "chuds"
I am an online western Marxist and I do not call your parents chuds.
>because they don't [missing word] LGBT or Jews or some other trivial stuff lol
I assume you meant to say "because they don't like LGBT or Jews" here but I have no basis for that assumption other than the context of the post. Again I do not call your parents chuds, but I hope you appreciate the analysis which follows.
>LGBT or Jews
not the same thing. one is just an acronym for being Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, or Transgender. It is not a "think tank" or an "ideology" it is literally just an acronym for a rather arbitrary subset of sexual minorities. It has no class content because class content is not specified. A lesbian chosen at random could be from any socioeconomic class. Making "LGBT" the focal point of an analysis by default ignores class and it should be criticized as a framework on that basis, rather than some much weaker basis…. like "LGBT is bourgeois" (it isn't; it has no class content specified) or "LGBT people area all liberals" (they're not) or "LGBT is western decadence" (that is just stupid because LGBT people have always existed everywhere in the world).
>Jews
This is an ethnoreligious diasporic group originally from the levant, but who are now multiethnic due to centuries of diaspora following the destruction of the 2nd temple by the Roman empire, some Jews are secular, other Jews are not. A Jew could be a "Jew" like Marx, i.e. someone who is treated as Jewish in the historical record despite openly rejecting the Jewish religion and even rejectinPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2910039
Cultural issues are a major focal point of New Left-derived thought, which is the dominant strain of leftism in the West today. Having multiple points of analyses dilutes revolutionary potential because it creates a purist effect that inevitably alienates large swathes of the proletariat who would otherwise be sympathetic towards class conflict. This is partly, in my view, why Western leftism has been so effectively neutered (labor aristocracy effect also plays a role too). It's thus no coincidence that this redirection towards pointless cultural quibbles was almost entirely engineered by OSS and CIA "academic" spooks.
Human agency is mediated by material conditions; prejudices, no matter how rational or irrational, are partly the product of one's environment. Shaming these prejudices is thus counterproductive, in my opinion. We should instead address the conditions that produces these prejudices in the first place. The "chuds" may be xenophobic, homophobic, sexist, or whatever, but they nevertheless feel the contradictions of capitalism the same as we do. The modern Western left, with its puritanical focus on culture, only pushes these "chuds" into the arms of reactionary populism. A proper left-wing movement should build on shared material grievances and majoritarian class politics that can absorb cultural differences.
>I don't think anyone on this website rejects that idea, since it is probably the fundamental thesis of this website.
This website is also incredibly niche in the grand scheme of things. However, the undertones of idpol on here does exist, albeit it's much less pronounced compared to IRL leftism. However, even on this site, people are very tribal in their material interpretations of the political economy. Leftcoms versus MLs versus anarchists. First Worldists versus Third Worldists.

>>2910004
Right. people who say the opposite don't remember what it was during the Trayvon Martin case.
It was more socially liberal live and let live than now but still very racist.

>>2909891
>I lost all respect for cucktin after that pinochet quote.
Why? You said in the Iran thread that all third world communists should be killed so you have the same politics as Pinochet

>>2901413
> The man was also firmly socially conservative and-
I here i stopped reading, why do you, presumebly a westerner in your twentys to thirties so keen on having the politics of sum russian boomer bruh, fuck off

>>2909898
>all third world communists should be killed
Why are most of these "third world communists" fighting against countries who are in conflict with the west?
Why are "third world communists" not fighting the west?
<that post in case anyone is curious

>>2909931
>I have presumed something I understand to be contradictory and I'm mad about it
diaper behavior

Stalin literally save liberal democracy in Europe

>>2908848
Lenin was a socdem too. The Bolsheviks were astroturfed by the Tsarist Okhrana first and then the German Foreign Office during WW1

>>2908834
>why does american maoism exist
to do national liberation against le epstein class

America lacks Trotskyism (due to having a comparatively weak ML movement even before the Second Red Scare) so when the 60s rolled around Maoism filled the vacuum.

>>2909186
marge trotskyism is strong in amerikka

NASA Map Shows Impact of Water Crisis on Tens of Thousands of Puerto Ricans
Meteorologist Wright told Newsweek that the latest drought situation in Puerto Rico is “definitely one of the fastest onsets.” He noted that just three months ago, only about a third of Puerto Rico was considered “abnormally dry,” whereas around 40 percent is now classified as being in extreme drought. According to Wright, “the recent spike is the most dramatic.” A new analysis report prepared for Newsweek by geoscientist Elena Maksimovich, CTO and head of climate data at Everloop, a sustainability and climate-risk consultancy, found that the summer of 2026 in Puerto Rico was exceptionally dry, though not unprecedented.
https://www.newsweek.com/nasa-map-shows-puerto-rico-extreme-severe-drought-conditions-12412340
https://archive.ph/OBVGz

New lawsuit filed against Cesar Chavez, alleging sexual assault, union cover up
The lawsuit revolves around an 86-year-old woman named only as Jane Doe suing the Cesar Chavez Foundation, the late labor leader’s estate and the United Farm Workers Foundation, saying Chavez raped her in 1973. The woman, who now lives in San Bernadino County according to the suit, is suing the three entities for negligence, negligent supervision, negligent infliction of emotional stress, sexual harassment, violation of Bane Act and the violating of Unruh Act.
https://www.kget.com/news/local-news/new-lawsuit-filed-against-cesar-chavez-alleging-sexual-assault-union-cover-up/
https://archive.ph/fbcL5

Teachers union reaches AI privacy deal with Microsoft
The AI privacy standard consists of 10 legally enforceable protections, including an agreement by the tech giant to not use student or teacher data to train or improve an AI model, with the exception of “narrow safety and security” circumstances, according to a Microsoft fact sheet shared with POLITICO.
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Mass Arrests in Jakarta
According to the information currently available, 322 protesters were detained by the Jakarta Metropolitan Police (Polda Metro Jaya) in connection with the demonstration on 27-28 August 2026. Of those detained, 273 people have been released, while 49 people remain in custody. Of the 49 people still detained, 44 are adults and 5 are minors. The legal status of each detainee should be made transparent, including the grounds for detention, the charges brought against them, and their access to legal assistance and representation. At the same time, serious questions remain regarding the alleged involvement of mass organizations or groups seen wearing white headbands in the incident that resulted in the death of Bambang Setiyawan. If evidence indicates their involvement in violence, all parties implicated should be investigated through a transparent, independent, and impartial legal process. It is unacceptable for law enforcement to take harsh measures against protesters while other parties allegedly involved in violence are not subjected to equally serious investigation. The law must apply equally to everyone, regardless of political affiliation, organizational membership, clothing, social status, or position.
https://organisemagazine.org.uk/2026/09/03/mass-arrests-in-jakarta/

KKE on AfD surge in Germany: Capitalist exploitation and imperialist rivalries fuel the far-right
“The attack on workers’ and people’s rights by the bourgeois political forces — liberals, social democrats, the pseudo-‘left’ and others — the sharpening social contradictions in every country on the terrain of capitalist exploitation and imperialist rivalries, combined with the absence of a strong, class-oriented labour and communist movement, are the factors that, in Germany and elsewhere, are ‘pushing’ disappointed sections of the people into the nets of far-right and supposedly ‘anti-system’ populism. Moreover, under conditions of preparation for war, such forces become even more useful to the system, sowing the poison of racism and nationalism among workers and the peoples, so that the main culprit remains untouched: the dominant anti-people policy, the EU of capital and war, and the capitalist system itself.
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>>2904822
If Iraqis want to overthrow the regime it becomes a resistance state against color revolution
Otherwise it's a comprador state that isn't REAL islamic resistance o algo

idk just wanted to put this here.

did it reached the bump limit?

>>2904009
>are you really so illiterate
representation in the modern liberal colloquial sense means representation in media, which is what I assumed the poster was implying. No need to be an asshole about it
>>2904012
>The revolution decommodifes gender
somebody's gonna have to pay the surgeon to give me grs and I can't afford it by myself

Just read this leftcom critiques of him:
https://desperatetimes914496456.wordpress.com/2025/08/01/the-myth-of-graeber/
https://desperatetimes914496456.wordpress.com/2025/08/04/again-graeber/
https://desperatetimes914496456.wordpress.com/2025/08/08/graeber-history/

https://kalikoba.substack.com/p/david-graeber-owes-me-a-book?utm_source=publication-search

>>2909111
I'm AuDHD so give me the TL;DR or else you're ableist.

>>2909112
I do too which is why I haven't read them either

>>2909085
One of his big claims is that primitive communism never existed.

>>2910091
So humans society always had surplus that was privately owned?
How does he criticize capitalist economists for being evil and wrong then go ahead and claim private property is human nature?

>>2909831
Strange how all the good ideas came from that time period but modern society is still stuck using morality from the enlightenment at the very least. The best we can come up with is sloppaganda AI ethics and nobody can agree on anything let alone stop the genocides or wars. Almost like hard conditions create strong men yada yada.

>>2909901
>enlightenment ethics
Bro, try ethics from 2,000 year-old religions.

>>2907005
so there's no such thing as ethnic competition anymore? everything has to be viewed through an universal moral framework?

>>2909910
That's why I said at least.
>reading comprehension

I love how this thread is becoming increasingly chuddy. We need more /pol/ in /leftypol/.
Traffic is at an all time low.

>>2904901
Are you ignoring that Trotsky specifically stated that Zionism was a dead end? He would have just done what the Soviets did by giving the Jews an autonomous oblast.

>>2903019
Trotsky never was the alternative people hoped he would be. Communism became corrupted way before Stalin as he was just a natural result of conditions set by Lenin. But even blaming him misses the point of Marx disregarding warnings from Proudhon and Bakunin that his model of socialism would create just more tyranny and slavery instead of abolishing it.

>>2909866
>more
More than or just more ?

>>2903678
Why do people make cringe art and fan fiction about trotsky?

>>2909866
And bakunin and proudhon would become fascists to save their (lack of) systems. Anarchist dreams vs reality that people as a whole are passive and need a strong patriarch to guide them.

>leftard using the n word
Watch jannies not ban them

>>2909757
>bordigger clitty leakage over getting called what they call themselves
Truly most neurotic deranged specimens

Under communism we will clone bordiga billions of times and send them straight into the sun to keep its nuclear fusion reaction going

>>2909271
>society on a different continent centralized different hereditary tribute structures
>socialism
OHHH I HATE BLOOD AND SOIL SO MUCH

>>2909417
Beria regularly sacrificed young girls to Perun, Khrushchev put a stop to this and the USSR immediately declined.

>>2909712
You're not familiar with steroid-induced rage?
It leads to a lot of physical aggression.

>>2909764
No it does not. It simply makes people make decisions faster not better. A lot of men are probs walking around with violent thoughts. Testosterone makes it so that the decision is made faster without thinking it through. In itself testosterone doesnt cause violence

>>2909765
>steroids dont increase aggression
Delusional.
>violent thoughts
Don't women also have violent thoughts and are less self-controlled?

men don't commit more crimes, they just get caught more often.

>>2909787
It's not about crime in general, but violent crime in particular.