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What did Marx mean by this in the Communist Manifesto.
<"Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country."
>The Communist Manifesto, Chapter II: Proletarians and Communists
My three potential interpretations are as follows.
A) Marx viewed that the separation of the rural and urban populations led to conflict to due living in separate conditions. Like how we see rural populations now a day being far more reactionary than urban ones.
B) Marx viewed that alienation wouldn't just stop with abolishment of capitalism but we would to have to workers produce there own food and industrial goods. Instead of having them exchanged between city factories and country farms.
C) Marx thought the cities would dominate the surrounding country and lead to the reformation of the state.
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>>2903935
Yes, it's all optional.

>>2903818
>Education will enable young people quickly to familiarize themselves with the WHOLE system of production
wtf was Engels smoking?

>>2906078
You know how capitalism is taught in schools. Same thing but significantly better and not propagandized.

>>2906084
Humans have a limit on how much they can learn

>>2903932
>Marx wasnt some kind of a holy prophet and his writings arent sacred texts to be followed to the letter. Its a proposition to be considered.

>>2903935
>Is abolishing wage labor or worker/capitalist distinctions also completely optional? Where do you draw the line?

I just feel like Marx is outdated now. The revolution failed and we're in a different world now. He was right… about many things, but he had blindspots. Genius tier Dunning-Krugerism.



 

/leftypol/'s most ignored general is back

Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades: Study
https://ground.news/article/earth-is-now-heating-up-twice-as-fast-as-in-previous-decades-study_63acf6

Humanity heating planet faster than ever before, study finds
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/mar/06/humanity-heating-planet-faster-than-ever-before-study-finds

Microplastics found in 90% of prostate cancer tumors, at much higher levels than healthy tissues, study reveals
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/02/260225001250.htm


Was War with Iran Sparked by Water?
https://erickeyser.substack.com/p/was-war-with-iran-sparked-by-water?r=1r05cx&triedRedirect=true&_src_ref=old.reddit.com

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I can’t wait to starve and die with my gun in my hand

Damn. I applaud the valiant effort of le internationals to prevent this, but the fate is too strong. Fatalism justified and vindicated

I'm currently reading a song of ice and fire, in this story the geopolitical situation of the world keeps degenerating into wars with widespread destruction and massive economic impacts while the existential threat of a real long climatic event is menacing to extinguish life itself, so unrealistic

>>2904727
Stop reading, Song of Ice and Fire will never be finished, go read Malazan, is already finished.

>european far right still attacking climate proposals and shit
>they keep doing this even after the heatwave
well I guess we will die



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Now, I get that things were different back then. Che was one of the most, if not the only well known leftist guerrilla figures in the West, a truly romanticized ideal for university students and academics to idolize and see themselves in. But I’m sure that even back then, with just a little research, they could have realized that his military theory was half-baked. It was written specifically within the super specific context of Batista’s Cuba and when applied outside those unique conditions, it failed.

In fact, I feel it’s much more important to look at those failures and what they reveal. Che in the Congo is a good example of how Third Worldism simply does not work. Che brought specifically Afro-Cuban veterans of the Cuban Revolution with him, partly to avoid appearing as an imperialist. But in the Congo that distinction was irrelevant. The Latin American context of race and religion was simply alien to the Congo, where tribal and religious identities mattered much more. Congolese fighters wouldn’t work with one another if they belonged to different religions or had tensions with another tribe. And even when you found two groups that had no religious differences or negative opinions of each other, they could literally be unable to work together because they didn’t speak the same language. There was also a general spiritualism that the Congolese fighters couldn’t simply let go of. They refused to fight in trenches because they believed it was bad luck and that they would become sick and die if they were in them. Che encountered this kind of refusal again and again.

Then there was his adventure in Bolivia. Bolivia appeared to fit Che’s ideal model, a poorer country under a military dictatorship. So by his own theory, it should have been fertile ground for successful guerrilla warfare. Instead the campaign failed because the dictatorship had implemented modest land reforms. Those limited reforms were enough to reduce rural support for an insurgency, leaving Che’s forces without the local backing and logistical assistance they needed.
I think that if Che had survived, he might have learned from those failures, refined his ideas and produced a more realistic and pragmatic theory of revolutionary warfare. But he died and became an icon for millions. Still, I feel like contemporary leftists should have looked at these failures and seen them as a fairly obvious reason to rethink his theory, rather than turning it into an inviolable principPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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This is quite common knowledge or have you seen any recent leftwing groups who are using his model? Even if it did work, it would be completely outdated by now. The USSR proved in my view at least, that this humbug for self-determination needs to be dropped entirely.

I know fuck all about this but what about later Cuban involvement in Africa like in the southern part of the continent? Were these very different from Che in the Congo?

>>2906568
>Were these very different from Che in the Congo?
Astronomically different, Che went with around 100 men to help the Simba militias, trying to replicate what had happened in Cuba, teaching them guerrilla warfare and fighting alongside them. But the alliance completely broke down because of the militias lack of discipline and organization, as well as tribal divisions and superstition. The Cuban army that later became involved in Angola was nothing like this. By then the cuban armed forces had been rebuilt from the ground up, essentially becoming a professional Caribbean military modeled heavily along Eastern bloc lines.

>>2906552
To be fair Marxist military theory was practically nonexistent as a concept beyond the basic idea of arming the workers. Engels interestingly had a quite sophisticated understanding of military matters. During his period of conscription he was only ever a corporal, but his real expertise came from extensive self-education in military science. He was particularly influenced by Clausewitz and his knowledge was substantial enough that contemporaries sometimes jokingly referred to him as “the General.”
Engels idea was that revolutionary movements required a professional, well-trained and disciplined military force rather than merely an armed proletariat. He considered a revolution without an organized Army to be strategically futile. His military writings remained untranslated and had little influence outside a relatively narrow circle. It was only later in in East Germany that said writings were rediscovered and systematically studied, giving him greater prominence within the Eastern Bloc. This aspect of Engels thought however never achieved anything comparable to the same of in the West or other regions.

>>2906576
>Engels idea was that revolutionary movements required a professional, well-trained and disciplined military force rather than merely an armed proletariat.
Cromwell ran into the same issue during the English Civil War, prompting him to form the New Model Army. The service of militaries have historically been qualified by extensive professionalism, often of the concerns of secutities in property. This is why the Roman Proleterii as the lowest rank of soldier only put up his family, while the later Caput only put up his "head". The degeneration of the military can be tracked by its demands for lower orders, although it coincides with a certain democratic impulse. Plato relates the fact that in Athens, children received an education of war by travelling to battles and watching them; a sort of "National Service". The Spartans of course encouraged the universal militancy of the Phallanx - the term later adopted by Fourier (1808) for his Utopian Socialist Commune. A class war fought without infantry makes no sense. Even Marx used military language for the "Reserve Army" of the Proletariat in places. Clausewitz was also inspirational for Lenin's militancy. Lenin in seeing Heraclitus as a vital philosopher must thus also see "War as God".



 

Capitalism was nice only in the beginning, in the honeymoon phase.
Now it turned into feudalism and genocide.

People should have picked communism. Now they will live in hell and die.
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>>2903846
Sounds like:
>it's capitalism if the outcome is something bad

>>2903834
Communism is Advanced Feudalism.
Feudalism is actually good.

Did you try to answer from the view of mystification of labor?

So it goes: individual labor -> commodity on the market -> common labor. By exchanging things, thing1/thing2, etc, which is some_guy1/some_guy2. But also we find that it is not some_guy1, the individuality is lost, but hours1/hours2.

So what? It should, I think change the way you think, from just your head to all organs of manufacturing lol. It makes you think in common, not just from your individual view, which is a view in things/commodities.

Like in ecology, it goes from total emitted co2, to individual.
There is no ecology if you just look at it by yourself, when no totals.

Why will you not want to not know the totals, so to know from that, what you need to do, but also be able to do that?

>>2906362

nope, capitalism is a specific and quite clearly defined economic model and you can look it up in the dictionary if you want.

in fact, if you really think about the actual definition of capitalism and go back and look at what OP said, that it was "nice only in the beginning", such a statement sounds even more absurd and downright monstrous considering that capitalism began in the 16th century when european empires used massive fleets of ships and the magnetic compass to build global maritime trade networks and invade and colonize africa and asia and the americas and steal their land and extract all their resources and enslave anyone who could be useful to them and exterminate anyone who wasn't. capitalism wasn't nice at all in the beginning, at best it was merely more honest, an army of redcoats is a bit more honest than an army of indigenous thugs secretly funded by a banana company.

>>2906477
I agree with you, I just don't understand why that anon framed capitalism idealistically.

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>>2906296
Well, we are dealing with dogmatists. If you parse out their logic into contradiction, they want to shut you up, instead of changing their own mind.
>>2906237
Products ≠ commodities
>>2906227
A computer is just a portable factory of digital goods.
This sentence is a digital product.
>>2906244
>A product is not a product, if (x) politics
Pure ideology.
But let's set a different frame:
Are hammers, nails and wood means of production?
Will they be able to be personally possessed in your utopia,
or would you have to beg the state to rent them? If the accumulation of wealth allows personal purchasing of means of production, then means of production would not simply be "collectively owned".



 

People think Lula is a nickname for Luís Inácio da Silva, but the truth is much darker and would drive them to the brink of insanity.

Lula means "squid" in Portuguese, and he bears this name because he's actually an Old God possessing tentacles like those of a colossal squid reincarnated in the body of a Brazilian politician.

Is this why he invaded Haiti in 2004?

>>2906533
Yes, Brazil HATES Haiti even though 200.000 Haitian immigrants live here.



 

Thousands of Chileans March Against Kast’s Policies
The mobilization, which had one of its epicenters near Baquedano Metro station, an iconic gathering point during the 2019 social uprising, coincided with the start of the fifth edition of the Madrid Forum, the international far-right summit being held in Santiago, Chile. On Sept. 3 and 4, the forum, founded in 2020 by Santiago Abascal, leader of Spain’s Vox party, will be attended by Argentine President Javier Milei, U.S. Undersecretary Sarah Rogers, Heritage Foundation Director Kevin Roberts, European Parliament member Kinga Gal, among other conservative figures.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/thousands-of-chileans-march-against-kasts-policies/

Resistance to Bolivia IMF deal grows as groups meet over fuel crisis
Representatives from nine civic and social organizations met on Wednesday in Cochabamba, calling on the government to ease costs as diesel shortages and subsidy cuts hurt households and industry. The meeting adds to pressure on centrist President Rodrigo Paz's administration as he seeks congressional backing for the IMF deal.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/resistance-bolivia-imf-deal-grows-groups-meet-over-fuel-crisis-2026-09-03/

Machado: ‘Illegitimate’ Venezuela regime has no right to strike US oil deal
In a video posted on social media, the Nobel peace prize winner said: “Of course the United States is the principal partner Venezuela needs to fully develop its strategic potential. This is what the majority of Venezuelans believe … and it is something I’ve spent my whole life defending.” However, Machado said, the current occupants of the Miraflores presidential palace in Caracas were “enemies of the US”, saying they did not have the right or the democratic mandate to negotiate Venezuela’s natural resources.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/03/venezuelan-opposition-leader-questions-us-oil-deal-with-illegitimPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

ICE officer who shot Venezuelan man in Minneapolis charged with lying to investigators
The ICE officer was released from jail last week after Texas’s Republican governor, Greg Abbott, refused to immediately sign an extradition warrant that would surrender him to the Minnesota authorities that had charged Castro separately with assault and false reporting of a crime related to the same shooting.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/03/ice-officer-charged-venzuela-man-shot-minneapolis

Trump again appeals to Supreme Court on mail-voting restrictions with midterm elections looming
The administration filed its appeal the afternoon before mail ballots were scheduled to be sent out by North Carolina, which on Friday kicks off a wave of states shipping ballots out for the rapidly approaching midterm election. Its appeal was part of a flurry of last-minute litigation as the federal government struggles to implement President Donald Trump’s restrictions on mail ballots before the midterm elections in November, and came even as legal wrangling over Trump’s executive order continued in lower courts.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-mail-voting-executive-order-lawsuit-63899f738d28d161b629054a314f161a

Congressman Suhas Subramanyam says his phone conversations were recorded by FBI and DOJ
In a statement released on Thursday, the Virginia congressman said he was informed that phone conversations he had had with State Senator and President Pro Tempore Louise Lucas were being monitored as part of their investigation into Sen. Lucas.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/politics/congressman-suhas-subramanyam-phone-conversations-recorded-fbi-and-doj/65-cd745cd1-67ae-49f2-a384-99aa451d3726

Trump names Adam Telle as acting army secretary following the departure of Driscoll
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Sweden’s Employment Protection Act Is a Joke: Labor lawyer Rasmus Hästbacka writes about Sweden’s supposedly strong legal protection for workers.
I often find myself in grim negotiations where the employer has already decided to fire workers because they’ve suffered workplace injuries or illnesses – or because they’re union activists or health-and-safety delegates. In such situations, the employer doesn’t care one bit about the Swedish Employment Protection Act, abbreviated LAS. Workers are offered a “voluntary” buyout under the threat of a forced buyout. How does that work? First, you need to understand that firing people in Sweden has never been difficult – at least not legally, only financially costly in some cases. Under Section 39 of LAS, employers can always dismiss workers and then buy them out against their will. Even if you’re fired in violation of the law, and even if a court rules that the employer broke the law, the employer can simply buy their way out of the verdict by paying the damages specified in Section 39. In short, the law literally states that money stands above the law. A forced buyout therefore means that you lose your job even if you win in court. The very name of the law – the Employment Protection Act – is therefore somewhat misleading. A more accurate name would be the Law on Employers’ Right to Fire Workers on Any Grounds They Please.
https://libcom.org/article/swedens-employment-protection-act-joke

In the Name of Security: An investigation into the everyday violence of prison strip searches, which incarcerated women say are a tool of abuse.
When Karla Padilla started her sentence at the federal correctional institution in Dublin, Calif., in 2023, a guard singled her out. Over the next 15 months, the guard strip-searched Padilla so frequently that anyone near her risked being searched too, and other inmates began keeping their distance whenever that guard was on shift. Most prisons across the country conduct strip searches under a federal policy that requires women officers to inspect incarcerated women. The officer instructs them to remove their clothes, shake their hair, open their mouths, lift their breasts or genital area and then bend, squat and cough. On one particularly cold day in November 2023, while Padilla was cleaning the chaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

News homie, you a real one

>>2906394
>US pressure on Iran starting to tell, as sanctions and blockade bite
grim

tyna



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Boss wants me to operate a forklift without a license, move extremely heavy and broken pallets through a tight hallway, where I sometimes climb up the pallets, but I get minimum wage.




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>be le epic based “anti-imperialist”
>supports Israel and ban gays

Can someone explain why Burkina Faso is overly glazed in that board?
Almost just as reactionary as Ugandan government at this point.
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>>2906318
>Burkina Faso is neither AES
Wrong.

>>2906349
>your country will be backup israel when iran nukes it
israel became backup jewish autonomous oblast

>>2906368
>workers with guns
They did that, and guess what happened? It failed like 100% of the time.
>>2906373
>Lumpen militariat
Silence, you Western leftist faggot, the Army is leading the revolution, not those fag intellectuals and activists.
>>2906383
Western leftist drivel

i don't think any of you understand just how much west africans viscerally fucking hate arabs

>>2906330
accumulation of commodities is the xyz national road to socialism, foolish leftcom



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The American question is: how does a settler-imperialist nation transform itself into a decolonized socialist commonwealth without either reproducing the imperial form or fragmenting into balkanized enclaves that allow capital to reconstitute, while resolving the contradictions of internal colonization and liberating its external colonies, therefore using the empire's collapse to accelerate material conditions to enable the global revolution?


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what hte fuck is new in the fuckin free world?

>>2906234
The economy looks like shit

>>2906235
that's good. it's historically progressive.


>>2906223
pollsters should just ask for first and second preferences



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Why is Soviet Union so popular autists and schizophrenics, despite they put all of them in mental hospitals?

Even the Ronald Reagan era in America and modern Russia treated them better.

Soviets saw them as degenerate lumpenproles that couldn’t work.
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The Soviet Union was fairly successful until Stalin showed up and shat all over everything.

>>2895997
Yeah because a bunch of autists and queers are Los Zetas you absolute twit. Pimps and drug dealers are not the same thing as prostitutes and neets. Get fucked.

>>2906160
>CIA-funded Wahhabism will be purged regardless of how high pitched your tantrum is baizuo.
There is supposed to be a comma, you utter retard.

There is no evidence of any significant support of wahabbism among Uyghurs, lol. And even if there was, it's not a good reason to send the whole nation to "le vocational schools"

>>2895997
>I support re-education for everyone, including fellow workers who lack class consciousness or harbor antisocial tendencies—such as fostering prejudices or refusing solidarity with workers worldwide and fraternity with all nations—which are essential for abolishing private property, the anarchy of production, and social classes.
You make classes sound like natural order. I'm not going to lie, if some rightoid used you as proof for that and called you an economic sodomite, it would be pretty funny.

>>2906203
>it's not a good reason to send the whole nation to "le vocational schools"
it’s historically progressive



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