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The notion of a vanguard is not a notion of a political elite, though it can decay into one, but rather it is a notion of a highly developed strata of professional revolutionaries who guide the proletariat simply because of the fact that they had better access to political education. Sometimes this is described as "the most advanced section of the proletariat" but we often find not merely highly educated and motivated proletarians in the vanguard, but also plenty of bourgeois class traitors in (Engels), class traitors from the nobility (Felix Dzerzhinsky, Zhou Enlai) peasants (Lenin, Mao), the child of a plantation owner (Castro), and petty bourgeoisie (Marx himself, at least the young Marx, before his exile and relative poverty and England).

In the 19th century and early 20th century, this vanguard naturally contained many class traitors, since political education was rarely extended to the working class. Marx had maids, even in his apartment in London, and Lenin employed housekeepers even in his exile to a cabin in Siberia. This was a group of unusually educated professional revolutionaries who did so much reading, so much writing, so much public speaking, and attended so many meetings, that they did not have time to cook their own meals, do their own laundry, wash their own dishes, and could not have done so even if they wanted to. They needed help with basic domestic tasks from the very workers they wanted to liberate.

Today it is different. The worker can listen to the entire Marxist-Leninist canon as audiobooks while attending to the menial tasks which occupy daily life, both at work and at home. The worker can publish their thoughts to a site such as this easily, without needing access to a publishing company or a printing press. A worker can attend a party meeting in the form of a video call, while driving. This enables the worker to be every bit as involved in the theoretical half of the class struggle (reading theory, writing theory, speaking publicly, attending meetings) as they already were in the practical half of the class struggle (working, striking, fighting, dying). This calls into question whether the vanguard is the individual in a suit sitting in an office publishing theses against bourgeois rivals while servants bring tea and warm meals, or whether the vanguard is the individual who listens to Marx and Lenin while washing dishes.
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>>2701160
There’s not gonna be an alternative when nukes fly and the entire population of the global south is forced northward and oil runs out

>>2700837
Marx and Engels were never the vanguard, and as far as Lenin and the other key figures of the RSDLP who lived in exile, they were not even close to the whole vanguard. The real vanguard was sleeping on the floor of poor workers' homes while organizing study circles among factory workers. They were smuggling literature, setting up clandestine printing presses piece by piece, forging documents to get comrades across state lines or out of prison, etc. I agree broadly though that in the modern day we don't need saviors from a higher class, since literacy is widespread. Just from the more educated, literate, and politically lucky among the working class. All of the past revolutions can be thought of as nationalist first and communist second. The only one that doesn't fit this mold so well is the Russian revolution, but if you look from the point of view of the soldiers calling for peace before they're wiped out and peace is settled by terms set by Germany, and the bourgeoisie was calling for Germany to come save them from revolution, and even the bourgeoisie were attempting to kill the bourgeois revolution and were against a republic, it makes more sense that while the previously small and relatively junior bolsheviks did take the reins of the situation, the people who gave them their power, the soldiers, peasants, and workers, were not communist first.

>>2700882
The coming communist sneakernet will be glorious and unstoppable

>>2700895
The guy who got kicked in the head by a horse is the vanguard if he picks up a gun. You're conflating the ideological leadership with the vanguard as a whole.

>" Specifically, I wholly agree with you that special stress should be laid on the tasks connected with the work on an all-Russian scale and with the work of the Party as a whole; in your draft this is expressed in Clause One, which reads: “The newspaper Iskra, which has permanent correspondents among the workers and close contact with the work within the organisation, is the leading centre of the Party (and not only of a committee or a district).” I should merely like to remark that the newspaper can and sho
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>>2701393
communism isnt an ideology

>All of the past revolutions can be thought of as nationalist first and communist second

lol yeah i "can" also "think of" things as something entirely different, wouldnt change the actual reality of it though

>The only one that doesn't fit this mold so well is the Russian revolution

oh you mean the only one that led to an actual DOTP? interesting!

>>2700837
The future vanguard party is going to be a Twitter or Discord GC and I'm all for it except for hoping Discord dies



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How To Destroy Imperialism And Get Rich While Doing It

Step 1: Borrow Imperialist Stocks (military industrial complex especially) (avoid AES stocks and Communist stocks like Chinese stocks)

Step 2: Sell them on the market

Step 3: destroy imperialist factories affiliated with the companies you borrowed stocks from. (bonus: get rightoids to do it. say the companies are Woke or something)

Step 4: Stock price plunges

Step 5: buy back the shares cheap

Problem, imperialism?

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jewish nigger chicken jockey thread

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troll physics thread

>>2742567
This looks like gambling to me



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What is your thoughts on the Los Angeles Maoist Red Army? Ive been it around discord lately and wanted to know what it is and what you guys think about it?
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Cult

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>>2738746
FBI why did you do this?

>>2739534

it seems like the feds like to MK ULTRA anarchists and maoists the most, but why!?!? There's been a few "anarcho" esque groups, that engaged in some serious acts, but devolved into cult like activity and behavior.

>>2738746
>Schizo-Nazism with Amerikkkan characteristics



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https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents – ICE Agent List (incomplete)
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>>2742196
>This person will likely do it again.
Do you already know the complete circumstances of the situation anon? How do you know it wasn't a case of preemptive self defense or justified retaliation?
>Are you saying you would let off chudjak?
Yes. I would deny conceding the criminal bourgeois state the right to pose as a force of justice. I would also kill chudjak with my bare hands given the opportunity.

>>2742053
he talks like a rapists about literally anything.

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>>2741863
La Republique c'est moi

>>2741390
>listening to this limited hangout (barely even qualifies as that tbh) glowie

>>2740703
i was born on a dublin street, where the royal drums did beat, and the loving english feet, they walked all over us….



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Stalin
>The struggle that the Emir of Afghanistan is waging for the independence of Afghanistan is objectively a revolutionary struggle, despite the monarchist views of the Emir and his associates, for it weakens, disintegrates and undermines imperialism; whereas the struggle waged by such "desperate" democrats and "Socialists," "revolutionaries" and republicans as, for example, Kerensky and Tsereteli, Renaudel and Scheidemann, Chernov and Dan, Henderson and Clynes, during the imperialist war was a reactionary struggle, for its results was the embellishment, the strengthening, the victory, of imperialism.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/ch06.htm

Trotsky
>In Brazil there now reigns a semifascist regime that every revolutionary can only view with hatred. Let us assume, however, that on the morrow England enters into a military conflict with Brazil. I ask you on whose side of the conflict will the working class be? I will answer for myself personally—in this case I will be on the side of “fascist” Brazil against “democratic” Great Britain. Why? Because in the conflict between them it will not be a question of democracy or fascism. If England should be victorious, she will put another fascist in Rio de Janeiro and will place double chains on Brazil. If Brazil on the contrary should be victorious, it will give a mighty impulse to national and democratic consciousness of the country and will lead to the overthrow of the Vargas dictatorship.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1938/09/liberation.htm
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>>2741979
>leftcoms are armchairs

>>2741979
My country the US is at least bombing Iran and possibly if given air cover will help a Kurd offensive on the Iranian border. If that actually happens in the coming days I won’t be disappointed with my government. So as a supporter of the so called “left coms” I am not unhappy right now.

>>2738366
Khomeini:
>communism advocates the sharing of all things – including wives

Marx:
< "But you Communists would introduce community of women," screams the bourgeoisie in chorus. The bourgeois sees his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women. He has not even a suspicion that the real point aimed at is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production

>>2737912
Yeah? And? Stalin is le bad.

>>2737912
And lenin said that anti imperialism is a sham and a humbug, now what?



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Destroy capitalism and replace oil with hemp. No more need for petroleum based plastics, papers, toilet papers, foam, cardboard, COVID masks and other materials and hempseed oil can power a G20 diesel engine (like a BMW G series) if you ran it carbon negative with biochar and ethanol transesterification and a mechanical manual oil presser for the seeds. You can make hemp biodiesel this way. Will need to mix in lye and other ingredients. Could also be carnon neutral if you used methanol. Only difference is carbon neutral releases no carbon into the atmosphere, carbon negative absorbs carbon from the atmosphere - could cause global cooling and Ice Age if this were as widespread as petroleum engines.
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>>2741674
For writing on hemp paper.

>>2741162
you just run into the problem that arable land and water needed for food get taken over by your "biofuel"

Malthusian OP

We gotta be careful with the smell.
I bought some hemp beer once and that shit smelled like stickiest of icky. Not that it's bad but some people may not like it.

>>2742535
india is good



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The American 'working class' produce zero surplus value through their net nonproductive labor and physically cannot sustain themselves due to deindustrialization. Each and every single lumpen settler owes more than forty trillion in exports to repay their debt to the rest of the planet and survives off the surplus labor of non-americans from Berlin to Siberia. Even ignoring the countless acts of terrorism committed by the burgereich, the consumerism of treats must end. As the pedotariat of epsteinland must work for several years and export to maybe repay even 30 percent of what occupied turtle island owes to the non-american surplus value producing global proletariat.

Any strawman that does not address the largest trade deficit that will ever exist shall be ignored.
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>>2741267
The US has nuclear weapons, you will never force them to do anything. Your fantasies are just that. Internal proletarian revolution is the ONLY way America will ever change.

>>2741759
Wrong. In socialism, all work is productive.

>>2741482
Wrong. You just took notes from a 1915 manuscript out of context, whereas Lenin's own writings and those of the Bolsheviks on the self-determination of nations don't reach your moralistic conclusion. I, on the other hand, took a text discussing the labor aristocracy, a type of worker who is a minority group that will try to deceive the workers by collaborating with the bourgeoisie. If they become class traitors, they will try to weaken the workers' movement and co-opt them. This will eventually lead, after bribing these class traitors, to the creation of excuses and illusions for the masses and the workers. This will lead to the loss of labor rights for both native workers and the intensification of imperialist exploitation, giving the bourgeoisie more resources to crush the workers of their own country internally, resulting in all workers losing collectively. Remember that the labor aristocracy would gain along with the other workers if they received concessions from the capitalists and showed solidarity instead of inventing lies to appease the bourgeoisie. You can see this by reading Lenin's text in "Imperialism and the Split in Socialism" from 1916, and these notes you are projecting your resentment against workers in the imperialist core, trying to impose your moralistic interpretation, are not consistent with Lenin's published texts, which were published in their entirety. In contrast, these incomplete notes in a manuscript contradict my own 1916 text, which is more important than yours and was published later. This demonstrates that you are lying, trying to create complacency among workers so they don't follow their class interests, which are shared with workers on the periphery of capitalist imperialism. You believe that reducing anti-imperialism to moralism—feeling sorry for the workers of the Global South and feeling guilty for being a worker of the First World—is an anti-Marxist position. In any case, your interpretation, by contradicting all of Lenin's complete and later texts, which are more important, leads to the conclusion that your argument should be discarded.

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>>2742050
Wrong. Your walls of cope quickly destroyed by Lenin.
>Obviously, out of such enormous superprofits (since they are obtained over and above the profits which capitalists squeeze out of the workers of their “own” country) it is possible to bribe the labour leaders and the upper stratum of the labour aristocracy. And that is just what the capitalists of the “advanced” countries are doing: they are bribing them in a thousand different ways, direct and indirect, overt and covert. This stratum of workers-turned-bourgeois, or the labour aristocracy, who are quite philistine in their mode of life, in the size of their earnings and in their entire outlook, is the principal prop of the Second International, and in our days, the principal social (not military) prop of the bourgeoisie. For they are the real agents of the bourgeoisie in the working-class movement, the labour lieutenants of the capitalist class, real vehicles of reformism and chauvinism. In the civil war between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie they inevitably, and in no small numbers, take the side of the bourgeoisie, the “Versaillese” against the “Communards.”
Only upper stratum of the labor aristocracy is bribed. Majority of labor aristocrats not directly bribed. They are still imperialist labor aristocrat oppressors and exploiters because they subsist off surplus-value. Amerikans on other hand are peculiarly genocidal and bourgeois, as lenin explained in previous post. You defy Lenin's teachings and your revisionism serve only in effort to veil scope and power of labor aristocracy out of self interest. You are labor aristocrat as you defined. You are epstein.

>>2741636
burger flipping is productive actually. It produces surplus values and use values



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Communist Cuba is about to be overthrown.
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Good thing the worker militias that exist in Cuba can defend the glorious revolution… right?

>>2738393
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>Morón
thats pretty much saying trump will be overthrown bucause the republican party office in Ogallala, Nebraska was attacked

>>2738393
Yeah? Its an interimperialist conflict anyway. Le workers have no country and shit. Total cuba death



 

>adopts a market economy
>immediately begins to develop
Idk how anyone can still be a stalinist in 2026 when stalinist centrally-planned economies simply dont work and only produce dysfunctional shitholes.
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>>2742052
Inside China Elon Musk constitutes proletarian manager subordinated to dictatorship of proletariat. Foreign imperialist capital gets compelled to produce aggregate social product to the people, channel social product into socialist accumulation under public land ownership without forming any domestic exploiting class relation, transfer cutting edge means of production, unlike unrestricted private accumulation Musk exploits elsewhere on planet.

>>2742098
>Inside China Elon Musk constitutes proletarian manager subordinated to dictatorship of proletariat
In China, billionaire Elon Musk is considered part of the proletariat? When people speak of the views of the Chinese proletariat, these include their millionaires and billionaires?

>>2742098
is….is this bait or retardation?

>>2742485
wrong. communist is china.

>>2742478
Outside Communism, Elon is bourgeois. Inside Communist China, elon is reformed manager who submit to the workers and their system, always working towards redemption and reformation by hand of the Party . There are no "billionaires" in China.



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COMRADES OF LEFTYPOL, ERIK HOUDINI NEEDS YOUR SOLIDARITY
Houdini has been arrested.
https://gofund.me/826555a5f

He is in deep Florida country. Anons in Florida, please do what you can for him. Those who can make online payments, please help him.

Pasting the message from his comrades:
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TL;DR Our friend Erik is in jail for allegedly trolling a right wing influencer, Kaitlin Bennet, and we’re putting together a bail fund for him. If we don't get him out in 10 days or locate a foster the local animal shelter may put down his dog.



Hey everyone. We do not come here lightly and it is with a heavy heart that we come to you and ask for monetary assistance. Not for ourselves but for a dear friend of ours who was arrested Tuesday February 24th 2026 by the police.

Sometime in November of 2025, not long after the Kirk assassination, our friend allegedly got into a conflict on Instagram with a right wing influencer, Kaitlin Bennet, when she visited their city. In this conflict he allegedly referenced Kirk's assassination and that was enough for her to take these as threats on her life and call the police on him and an investigation was conducted where they allegedly found evidence of plans to harass Bennet next time she visits their City.
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the fact that Houdini DIDN'T shoot Kaitlin Bennet and then just willingly turned himself into the cops means he will never be about that life.

shooting "people" like her should be one of the left's foremost goals, tbh.

>>2741665
Okay Kaitlyn

>>2741613
>you guys
Kys, lib

>>2741613
'Also we just tell felix to fuck off he actually snitched' is anything but a simple, straightforward sentence you mongoloid.

I normally hate Chagos but solidarity against a fasicst regime is more important



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