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Although zoos sometimes get a bad rap for being "Animal prisons" they can actually be quite good for animals, depending on the animal in question and the conditions it's held in. The idea that having animals in captivity is always inherently bad is just not true. While measuring the happiness of a large group of animals isn't exactly easy, there isn't any good reason to assume that a dog, for example, is better off in the wild than in a house. Wild dogs live shorter lives, experience more stress and are sick more often. Still, many animals obviously cannot be held as pets and to do so is abuse (Big Cats, Large marine mammals, Primates other than humans). Zoo animals, assuming it's a professional zoo (Especially a non-profit), are generally either fine living in captivity or, while typically better off in the wild, have defects that makes it unable to do so. This is why you don't really see any large scale advocacy against zoos or owning pets as a concept, instead it's against specific zoos or specific pets. Personally, my experiences with Zoos have been confined to the Philadelphia Zoo, which is run by a non-profit organization and generally considered to be ethical, so my understanding of them may be biased. Nothing is perfect or ideal in any zoo, but I don't consider it to be an inherently evil institution, at least no more than any other institution under Capitalism.

Meanwhile, with circuses, they are ultimately using animals for entertainment in a performance sense, unlike zoos where just seeing the animal is the entertainment. This means making them do tricks and putting them in unnatural situations. They also often use elephants which basically aren't supposed to be in captivity at all. This is why the aforementioned Philadelphia Zoo removed their elephants. What I have read about circuses with animals generally does not exactly scream "ethics". I certainly don't trust them.

And for the record, I think you should try not to dismiss anything PETA says as being automatically nonsense. I don't support PETA and I feel that the theory that they're basically a front for the meat industry isn't impossible but on many occasions I've seen them outright tell people the truth just to have everybody whine about it. The other day they were telling people not to let their catPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2856057
yeah ok fam I'm sure the arugular I'm eating is suffering just as much as some pig getting brutally slaughetred.

Anyways, I feel like the whole vegan discussion is moot. People are too dumb and selfish to give up eating meat. They don't care about how animals are killed and exploited just so they can have their steaks and bacon. Honstly it's made me give up on humanity ever achieving socialism when even so-called "leftists" can't do something as simple as giving up meat

>>2856160
I’m willing to give up factory farm meat if I’m allowed to hunt overpopulated prey and invasive species, it’s way better to live your whole life free then get struck down than to live in a pen waiting for it

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Yes yes animals and plants deserve rights but what about fungi? I think the mycelium networks should have a voice in the socialist government and influence the five year plan. Lenin spoke of this.

>>2856254
Whenever I consult the mushrooms they just tell me to keep on keeping on

>>2856254
Fungi rights should take precedence over all other rights.



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The Worldwide Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in the future Global USSR (All the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are shown in the Map I posted) will flatten the Socially Constructed Reactionary Gender Binary, with all Women forced to have extremely short hair (Pixie cut or shorter, with a Shaved head being the most Historically Progressive), and Dresses/Skirts and Makeup/Lipstick banned in order to liberate Women from the chains of Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity, while all Western Business Suits and Traditional Religious Clothing are banned as well with everyone wearing Mandatory Mao Suits. The Worldwide flattening of the Reactionary Gender Binary will ironically cause a noticeable Global decline in Transgenders (less Men will desire to become Women once the Aesthetics of Bourgeois Femininity such as Long Hair, Dresses/Skirts, Makeup/Lipstick, are banned for Women) in the aftermath of the Global Destruction of Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity, though Sex Changes will still be Free and Legal to anyone who wants one, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲!

Additionally, any Woman who keeps her Hair longer then a Pixie cut (a Very Short Bob cut “might” be tolerated only if it is not a millimeter longer then the Chin, but I could change my mind on this very quickly, so it would be strongly advised that all Women keep their Hair no longer then a Pixie cut), wears a Dress/Skirt, or uses Makeup/Lipstick, will have her Head completely Shaved by the Female (mostly Lesbian) International Red Guards, who will march her through the streets wearing a Dunce Cap, force her to attend Struggle Sessions, and put her in a Re-Education Camp, where she will be taught how to become a Liberated Socialist Woman and embrace the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲!

When a Woman gets her Hair Chopped/Shaved off She is symbolically breaking the Chains of Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity that Long Hair on Women symbolizes in the Patriarchal Superstructure of the modern Capitalist and historical Feudal Modes of Production (then it would have been called Aristocratic Femininity), thus meaning that Forcing Women to have extremely Short Hair (Pixie cut or shorter, with a Shaved head being the most Historically Progressive), along with banning Dresses/Skirts and Makeup/Lipstick and making everyone wear Mandatory Mao suits is the only way to Flatten the Reactionary Patriarchal Gender Binary andPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Why do more Comrades not want to discuss my Dialectical Materialist Marxist-Leninist-Maoist solution (Forcing all Women to have extremely Short Hair, No Dresses/Skirts, No Makeup/lipstick, and to wear Mandatory Mao Suits) to eliminate Bourgeois Femininity in the Worldwide Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in the future Global USSR, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲🤔?



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the commanding heights of the economy should be state owned. commodities essential to the survival of the society should be collectively owned by society. commodities essential to the survival of the individual should be the property of the individual who intends to use them, after they have been produced by society. production of commodities not essential to the survival of the individual can be produced by worker owned cooperatives that are limited by the state in number according to production plan, that way you don't have a whole country of people running off to make vidya games for a living when there are ores to be mined and surgeries to be performed. add in labor vouchers with a clear date of expiration and periodic decay from the date of distribution, so labor vouchers do not accumulate into a reinvented money capital among spendthrifts. Keep statistics on necessities so they are not produced just in time as needed, with only a small buffer surplus, to avoid the problem of food waste. Encourage frequent days off and healthcare checkups for preventative care, so that serious medical interventions are needed less often, and problems like cancer can be nipped in the bud early. If the population begins to age too much, resulting in too many retirees to take care of, while birth rates decline… fuck. I haven't figured that one out yet.
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>>2855998
you still would need vouchers to decay and/or expire so people don't horde them to reproduce money capital

>>2856127
You can't do M - C - M' if there is no money (medium which mystifies value). Plus the value of time-vouchers decreases as production develops, since it takes less time. But 1 hour of labor-time is still 1 hour of labor-time. More effectively you could even go down to joules to get even better measurements.

>>2855969
>do NOT imagine a better state of things
you really are a socdem

>>2856292
if labor vouchers can be hoarded and exchanged for means of production, then a neo-bourgeoisie could emerge from a cartel of labor voucher hoarders.

>>2856808
Who owns the MoP you're exchanging this "hoarded pile of labor vouchers"? And why is your Crusoe so keen on owning MoP?



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For a brief moment from 2016-2022 this was supposedly the pinnacle of online left-wing politics. Bernie was about to win, Democratic socialism was the future, China would inevitably democratize and the old boring MLism was dead. A few DSA-backed candidates winning city council seats in already progressive districts was treated as if the Bolsheviks had just stormed the Winter Palace.

The most ridiculous part was that the supposed divide between the Dirtbag Left and the DSA left barely existed. They agreed on healthcare, labor, foreign policy, housing, policing and virtually every other major issue. The defining ideological conflict of the era was essentially whether you were allowed to make edgy 90's raunch comedy jokes on podcasts. Entire feuds and endless Twitter meltdowns emerged from a disagreement that amounted to "can you say slurs ironically?"

The confidence was incredible, leftist genuinely talked as if DSA-aligned leadership of every major American city was inevitable, as if Bernie was one good news cycle away from the White House and as if a handful of podcasts by stand up comedians had somehow cracked the code of political history.
In retrospect, it all seems absurd. There was never a realistic path to any of it. The movement's grandest ambitions had essentially zero chance of materializing.

Then reality intervened. Bernie lost, The post-COVID world arrivedm Housing crises worsened, Migration became politically explosive, Major wars returnedm China didn't democratize and instead looked increasingly capable of navigating long-term crises without becoming a Western liberal democracy and the assumptions underlying the entire scene collapsed one by one.

A lot of the old supporters ended up as tankies. A smaller but noticeable number drifted toward the far right. Sometimes they somehow became both at once. The aesthetic transformation is almost as funny as the political one, the old Dirtbag Left revolved around schlubby podcasters making jokes about being ironically gay, the people who inherited its audience are often obsessed with MMA, military history, geopolitical realism and posting shirtless workout photos. The few remaining loyalists seem to have finally realized that their politics were never meaningfully different from the DSA's in the first place and appear perfectly content settling into the role of ordinary progressive liberals.

What a strange, stupid little farce that was.
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>>2856475
what put him on the map is his uncle is chunk yogurt of the young turks, also he dated porn stars

>>2856098
>u sure bout that? cuz hasan said blah blah blah
your random example doesn't mean anything statistically significant
>>2856415
part of getting a lot of attention is being a narcissist and this guy's job is to get attention and give attention to the things giving him attention

>>2856415
>streamer is a narcissist
I mean isn't it practically a requirement of the job? put yourself on camera and yap for hours, gotta have a significant ego or you probably wouldn't bother doing it except as a hobby

Looks the dirtbag left LEFT to get the BAG ($$$).

>>2856792
Don't go into debt for your daddy who doesnt know you exist now. gl bud



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If you think about it…

The ACP is basically all the worst parts of CPUSA combined into a single reactionary party that exists to cry about all the other orgs, coup subreddits, support the petitie-bourgesisie, and be transphobic.

>flood
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>>2856417
Western "marxists" be like:
"I disagree with this national socialist party on many points, especially the mysticism and larp, but the fascism part is valid"

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>>2855647
>>2856367
>>2856369
>A Menshevik, eurocom and Marcyite walk into a bar…
You lack complexity and demonstrate naivite. The following quantitative methodology thread will help improve your material analysis, for you are missing connections as demonstrated by your sentences.
Read in full before replying: >>2758817

The worst part of the CPUSA is that they are loyal slaves of the Democrats and you're a fucking moron if you think otherwise.

>>2856369
>PSL
I used to think so to but they pussied out big time by condemning the SMO in Ukraine.

>>2856375
>infiltrate and destroy leftism from the inside
What "leftism" in America exists to infiltrate you fucking retard? Your shitty little Twitter clique? Your subreddit? Name even one organization that matters, that has achieved anything in half a century. There is nothing to destroy.

>>2856569
>how is babby formed?

>>2856569
u jus big mad that ppl dont take you seriosuly cuz why tf would they



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‘Board of Peace’ to launch ‘Hamas-free’ camps as Israel tightens grip on Gaza
Israeli newspaper Israel Hayom reported that the first site will open in Tel Sultan, near Rafah, “within weeks”, and house civilians “with no weapons or affiliation with Hamas”. It added that the zone will be policed by a “multinational force”, known as the International Stabilisation Force (ISF), which will be equipped with “non-lethal weapons” and operate from the Israeli Amitai Camp near Gaza under the command of the board. According to the report, while aid and temporary housing will be supplied to the areas, Board of Peace officials have pledged not to import concrete into Gaza.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/trumps-board-peace-launch-hamas-free-shelters-while-israel-tightens-grip-gaza

Turkey eases job rules for 1M+ Syrians under temporary protection
Turkey introduced a work permit requirement for Syrians under temporary protection in 2016. Under the initial rules, employers were allowed to hire one Syrian worker for every 10 Turkish employees, a quota that was later eased to one Syrian worker for every five Turkish employees. Refugee rights groups have long said that work permit requirements prompted widespread informal employment among Syrians, many of whom work in sectors such as agriculture, textiles, construction, manufacturing and services.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2026/06/turkey-eases-job-rules-1m-syrians-under-temporary-protection-what-know

Morocco: Rights group says 'face' of Gen Z protests Zineb Kharroubi's suspended sentence 'worrying'
The Moroccan Association for Human Rights (AMDH) said Zineb Kharroubi's six-month suspended sentence for her activism during the youth-led protests last year "forms part of a wider trend of increasing prosecutions targeting young people engaged in the peaceful exercise of their fundamental rights," in a statement to The New Arab.
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Thank you based news anon,

Tybna

I created a visualization of the 577 people George Washington held in chattel slavery at Mt Vernon

https://erikhoudini.com/577

>>2856197
Uh I think you mean the 577 underprivileged urban youths he provided internships for

>>2856165
>‘Board of Peace’ to launch ‘Hamas-free’ camps as Israel tightens grip on Gaza
So what's the leftypol righist cope patrol's line on these countries joining the BoP under literal "chairman for life" Trump?
· Vietnam (Ae Ea Ss!1)
· Belarus (need I say more)
· Kazakhstan (leftypol loved when they shot the strikers)
· Cambodia (Vietnam is responsible)
? The silence is so loud it's hilarious



 

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how is trump going to deal with the literal collapse of venezuela?

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>>2688348
>Remember how fucking smug Delcy fags were here a few weeks back? lmao.
If they come back show them this pic.

I don't think Trump and co. like Machado though which is another plot twist, they think she'll fuck up what they've got going.

>>2851302
Cuba still sent Venezuela aid, BTW. Even after fuel shipments were cut off. After 100 cubans died to protect their leader they happily gave up.
Sad.



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What’s with the hate on Japan about xenophobia. WW2 hate is valid, but hating them for immigration is stupid if you don’t criticise China on it.

If you gonna hate Japan for that then you have zero idea how strict China is.


>Xenophobia Japan

/leftypol/: NUKE JAPAN
>Xenophobia China
/leftypol/: Well actually….
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>>2855832
what are you going to do about it, baizuo?

>>2855835
Call you out on your hypocrisy

The difference is that one nation is fascist and the other is steadfast in proletarian internationalism. Hope this helps

>>2855795
And to think Logo Daedalus constantly tells his followers that the Chinese are all well-read on William Blake and how the PRC is le Christian country.

Although China is facing severe population decline, its current absolute labor force and total population are still incredibly large. So unlike Japan or some European countries, China doesn't have an urgent need to open its doors and attract foreign low-skilled laborers. Therefore, China's immigration policy won't see any fundamental changes in the short term. You might think China lacks diversity, but that's probably just a stereotype - there are plenty of Tibetans and Uyghurs, and while they're a tiny fraction of the huge Han population, they still make up a significant group



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Obviously if we were in charge of government there would be a variety of options but what can we personally do right now to prevent the monthly mass shooting done by some neo-nazi. This cannot keep happening. Surely there must be something we can do.
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We send rightists to the gulags so we can re-educate them. If they don't change, gas them

>>2846515
redirect it against piggies

>>2846581
If you read the shooting as anything less than a miscalculation from some illiterate dipshit. I'd question your sanity and your integrity as a human being.

>>2851494
the best way to win a game of chicken is to throw your steering wheel out the window and make sure the other guy sees you do it

>>2851729
faggot



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The following analysis of structural coercion and surplus extraction holds entirely true even if the classical Labor Theory of Value (LTV) is mathematically false. Whether the ultimate price of a commodity is determined by socially necessary labor time or subjective marginal utility, the physical reality of the power dynamic remains unchanged. Surplus extraction is a function of material leverage, not the metaphysical origin of economic value.

1. Ownership is a Survival Bottleneck
<The capitalist does not participate in value creation merely through ownership; they control a physical bottleneck. They gatekeep the tools, infrastructure, and resources required to produce a livelihood. Because the owning class has historically enclosed the means of production as private property, the worker cannot survive independently. They are physically forced to approach the capitalist to secure the means of their own survival.

2. The Contract is Structural Extortion
<Because the worker's alternative to employment is homelessness and starvation (structural coercion), the negotiation is absolutely asymmetrical. The capitalist dictates the terms: "I will allow you access to my tools to earn your survival, but only if you surrender a significant portion of the value you generate to me." The worker must comply. This is not a voluntary transaction; it is extortion backed by biological necessity.

3. Surplus is a "Survival Tax
<Regardless of how prices are set on the market, the mathematical difference between the revenue the worker's output generates and the wage they receive is siphoned by the owner. This surplus is not a legitimate reward for "time preference" or "risk," as mainstream economics insists. It is a survival tax, a toll the worker pays for the right to remain alive. The capitalist can collect this tax exclusively because state violence (police and property laws) protects their monopoly over the means of production.

Materialist Conclusion
<Surplus extraction is a pure metric of power. It calculates exactly how much material wealth the owning class can squeeze from the producing class using the structural threat of starvation, stopping just short of triggering mass dPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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OP hasnt read capital. thats not what the labour theory of value is, thats just what online ancaps think the labour theory of value is.
no muh mudpie is not a valid argument, no marx did not deny supply and demand, no marx did not deny that there are multiple factors that determine the prices of commodities

read the actual fucking book

>>2855223
Can you actually make an argument how it follows that, "if you did not have diminishing returns for labour (…) there would be no profit". Your original claim, now quoted at you for the third time.

>>2856161
I'm not the anon making nonsense claims about profit requiring diminishing returns from labour

>>2854445
shit, an ai thread and anons arent even noticing. its fucking over lol, its been dead the last few months tbh

>>2856465
Literally said in first reply:
>sounds very LLMish tbh
Second reply:
>Thank you for your ChatGPT revisionism



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