/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2865739
But Zeus raped shit loads of women and wasn't punished though, it's suitors that get sent to hell or whatever, not the actual powerful rapists - same as it always was with feminism, it's just a cartel to keep 'low value males' down.

>>2864963
I guess its an effective marketing strategy to have culture warriors talking about your movie.

>>2865263
Also casting a guy who was tall, skinny and older then Napoleon

>>2865923
And also retarded

>>2865739
>>2865835
Because the Greece of the Iliad and Classical Greece were separated by about 500 years, they were radically different civilizations. Just as England in the 1200s and England in the 1700s were both England in the past.
One example is the status of women. By the Classical period, especially, Greek society had become more strongly patriarchal and male authority was formalized through legal and social institutions. Respectable women were expected to remain largely within the household and when they appeared in public, they were to be veiled.

This thread is yet more perfect proof of why it’s pointless to talk to human morons on the internet. No one seems to grasp what OP is actually trying to say, and everyone is just talking past him. It’s no wonder you can have much more profound conversations with AI, it understood the OP immediately. You guys are obsolete.

>>2865711
braindead leftypolers.

>suddenly 95%+ of the population are misusing the word 'algorithm'
Even this site has a bump order algorithm. That's how user-content sites work.
I'm tired…

>Do you use algorithmic platforms like YouTube, X, Instagram, Xiaohongshu, etc.?
No. I use a alternate frontend for YouTube and RSS to subscribe to people I want to be alerted to.
And you're a fucking retard if you aren't doing something similar. Imagine considering yourself a socialist and then voluntarily begging porkbot for their tailored propaganda. In this day and age where there are more alternatives than ever.

* good to see some self-liberating comr8s in these replies.

>>2865718
>I'm tired…
preach sister, preach.
its the same people that convinced themselves/were convinced in school that mathematics is useless for life anyway and thus a waste of time.
now the same people talk about 'algorithms', 'AI' etc. and deem information technology some kind of mystical idol that makes things happen via magic.

i am a bit of a workaholic classcuck myself, but now I have to work with a mega, turbo, omega classuck who actually works 8+ hours a day and hides behind management, + his pace of work not only accelerates ours, but also produces side-effects that end up on our laps, so the blame is always on us when something goes wrong

such people should be sent down to the countryside to observe the workers and peasants

I work to get away from my family tbh, they’re exhausting to be around, sometimes even more so than work

>>2864730
Then it's easy, just get him really high so he works less hard.

>>2865047

being an entitled grifter who gets money for doing nothing is the new normal in western society, it's what our modern hustle culture is all about. of course the problem nobody wants to talk about is what happens when everyone in the world finally figures out that the hustler is a hustler.

>>2863658
you and your coworkers should bully him until he quits

>>2864696
> The best realistic scenario I can see is the decentralisation of power to a more local level so that (a) it's easier for leftists to obtain it and (b) each area can experiment and see what works in their specific circumstances or make the trade-offs they desire, and other areas can learn from their experiences.
socialism in one municipal district

>>2864742
You remain wrong. Puppet agents of finance capital exist in all countries on the periphery of capitalism. For there to be socialization of the economy and solidarity with the workers of the world, it is necessary not to depend on imports; therefore, there must be economic sovereignty. However, for this to be done, there is no agreement to be made with the bourgeoisie; therefore, state-owned enterprises must be used so that technology is democratized in a country that is under the control of capitalists who use blackmail against countries that do not have technological sovereignty. The solution is the use of state capitalism with state-owned enterprises competing against capitalists; this will facilitate democratization to prepare for the socialist revolution in a revolutionary situation.

This follows what Engels and Marx wrote:

<(ii) Gradual expropriation of landowners, industrialists, railroad magnates and shipowners, partly through competition by state industry, partly directly through compensation in the form of bonds.

<Frederick Engels, 1847, The Principles of Communism

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

As for what to do if the petty bourgeoisie wishes to nationalize something or propose taxes, the Marxist position is not to be a lackey to deliver property into the hands of capitalists nor to defend them:

<2. They must drive the proposals of the democrats to their logical extreme (the democrats will in any case act in a reformist and not a revolutionary manner) and transform these proposals into direct attacks on private property. If, for instance, the petty bourgeoisie propose the purchase of the railways and factories, the workers must demand that these railways and factories simply be confiscated by the state without compensation as the property of reactionaries. If the democrats propose a proportional tax, then the workers must demand a progressive tax; if the democrats themselves propose a moderate progressive tax, then the workers must insist on a tax whose rates rise so steeply that big capital is ruined by it; if the democrats demand the regulPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2865156
>For there to be socialization of the economy and solidarity with the workers of the world, it is necessary not to depend on imports
If the workers have the world have united, where the fuck are imports coming from? Mars?!
The rest is just wishcasting. If you think that Air New Zealand has the bourgeoisie seething because it's an SOE (which incidentally furnished the country's current leader) you're delusional. If you think state ownership leads to the "democratisation of technology" just like that, you're delusional. (Quite famously one of the few good things to come out of privatisation is that waiting times for landline installation fell from 6 months to about 1 week max.) There is no inherent reason to assume state employees are benevolent. In practice public services are just as prone to empire building and cover-ups as private sector ones.
(This, incidentally, is why I am a fan of decentralisation. I am not some market dogmatist who thinks that the private sector should run all bus services, but I do think that each local area should commission the services it needs via a local council sufficiently close to the public that you can personally know someone with some decision making power. It is pointless having a national bus company subject to "democratic oversight" by an MP who also represents 80,000 other people, or to have a russian-doll system where you have to complain to your block leader, who reports to a councillor, who reports to a regional leader, who reports to a national MP, who maybe reports to the bus committee…)

Governments choose to issue public debt and do not, as a general rule have austerity enforced upon them when they are spending within their actual capacities. The last time the UK ran a surplus was in 2001, France hasn't run one since 1974, USA 2001, Germany 2019, Portugal 2025, China 2007, Indonesia 2000, Brazil 2013, Chile 2022. Greece is an unusual exception, but behaved profligately by any standard and found itself bullied by other Euro member states rather than international markets. There are only a handful of countries in the world worse off today than they were in 1980. Your just-so story about "becom[ing] a deindustrialized colony without control of any technology for the export of raw materials" is just total nonsense - most of the gPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2865023
>Plants require humans, but the global share of industrial workers has stayed consistent […]
That's true to an extent but this is also because of the poor state that industries are in. Compare to China's manufacturing sector and you see that, although automation has replaced many workers, it has also created new fields for engineers alongside new jobs in more technical plants for workers.

>you cannot say the sector as a whole has declined just because you don't like its compositional changes
The composition does matter because when people complain about deindustrialization, they're complaining about losing sovereignty, losing regional jobs, losing low-skill high-value gigs and lastly losing technological savoir-faire (and the jobs that go alongside it)
More over, the general claim on deindustrialization is that it made the nation loose its economic sovereignty. It made unions powerless and stripped the state out of an effective investment potential.

>Most European countries are better off today than they were before "Deindustrialisation
You need to compare to the potential we lost rather than the state we had

> I do not consider healthcare to be welfare spending for these purposes and "Actual quality" is basically a wash
You're making a category error here

>The idea postwar keynesianism was driven because of the USSR is another just-so story
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ok? what does knowing this jewish nigger change for someone living in gaza or the west bank?

This video goes over his ideology.

Israel is a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic commune.

Quiet part out loud.

Critics warn EPA proposal could weaken Texans' voice on pollution from data centers, concrete plants
A proposed change to a federal rule could eliminate Texans' right to weigh in on permits for facilities considered "minor" air polluters, critics say, including small industrial operations like concrete batch plants, rock crushers and some power projects that fuel data centers. The change would remove a federal requirement for public feedback and leave it to states to decide whether to include members of the community before officials approve or deny facilities' air pollution permits that fall below "major emissions" thresholds.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/environment/article/minor-pollution-sources-data-centers-epa-22340125.php

US files proposed deal with Keystone pipeline owner over 2022 Kansas rupture
In the settlement, South Bow, the Canadian company that owns and operates the pipeline, agreed to pay a civil penalty ​of more ​than $26 million ⁠and complete work designed to prevent future similar discharges, which the ​company estimates will cost $40 million, according ​to ⁠the U.S. Justice Department.
South Bow also agreed to contribute over $3 million to Kansas for natural resource ⁠restoration ​projects to resolve violations of ​Kansas state laws, the department said.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/us-files-proposed-deal-with-keystone-pipeline-owner-over-2022-kansas-rupture-2026-07-10/

Marc Andreessen and former Walmart CEO are among the new Fed task force leaders
The panels include a range of well-known figures from finance and economics, as well as business — including top venture capitalist Marc Andreessen and former Walmart CEO Doug McMillon. Other bold-faced names include former top central bankers in other countries: Mervyn King, the former governor of the Bank of England, Raghuram Rajan, former governor of the Reserve Bank of India, and Arminio Fraga, former president of the Central Bank of Brazil.
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Who Is Ukraine’s Recovery Really For?
More than two hundred businesses were present at the Ukraine Recovery Conference in Gdańsk, Poland, at the end of June, eighty-two of them from Ukraine. But out of Ukraine’s eighty-three sectoral trade unions, none had so much as a stall, let alone a seat on a main panel. That asymmetry is telling; and for Ukrainian activists, taking part in the conference was something of a cold shower.
https://jacobin.com/2026/07/ukraine-workers-labor-code-war

Beyond “Trumpification”: Latin America’s Deepening Organic Crises
A widely held view, especially in the mainstream media, interprets the recent electoral results in Peru and Colombia as though all of Latin America could be painted with the same brush, reducing the region’s political landscape to a single story: the rise of the Right. The Economist, for example, claims Latin America is “going Trumpy.” But what we are actually seeing is massive polarization, which is leading to extraordinarily close general elections. In Peru, Keiko Fujimori won by a razor-thin margin of 0.3 percent (just 49,641 votes), with the difference coming mainly from overseas votes, particularly those from the United States. Her center-left opponent, Roberto Sánchez, has denounced the results as fraud, calling for protests. Fujimori will be the country’s ninth president in ten years, amid a deep political crisis. In Colombia, right-wing Trump admirer Abelardo de la Espriella won following an extremely polarized election. However, his opponent, Iván Cepeda, has stated he will call for “civil resistance” if the president-elect does not renounce his U.S. citizenship. Trump’s support in Colombia and votes from overseas residents in the case of Peru appear to have tipped the election in favor of the Right by a very narrow margin. However, from 2015 to the present, there have been 25 presidential elections in South America, and in 18 of them — over 70 percent — the respective ruling parties were defeated. The Right’s recent electoral victories must be understood within this polarized, contradictory context in order to draw lessons for how to defeat these reactionary forces.
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cheers for the news anon

by the way, do you happen to have an archive or whatever for all the thread pics you use? you once posted something i thought was really cool, but i'm having trouble finding it.

it was an art piece that depicts some sort of global revolution class conflict thing with ranks of priests and bourgies and so on on the left of various historical eras and the working class on the right rising above them, with earth or something in the background.

>>2864677
that would have been way more kino than what happened tbh. i don't know why whitecucks keep bringing their murder up. neither the bolsheviks nor the constituent assembly would have let these people live freely, they'd get executed, imprisoned or exiled in any circumstance. personally i would have liked to see them puyi'd but i don't think i would care about them getting killed even if i was a liberal

>>2864958
trotskyite edit

Bukharin has had a greater influence on Chinese Marxism than Mao. Mao is often viewed as a rural yokel who was useful for winning the revolution, but outside of a small group of unusual, self-loathing Westerners, few people take him seriously as a Marxist theorist.

coal

>>2864187
India arguably had one of the most ineffective government policies in history. Even the most corrupt Latin caudillos were more productive than what India achieved under this system. It effectively combined the worst aspects of capitalism, feudalism and state planning into a single economic model.

>>2864189
> assume that the Taliban are just being tricked into taking these actions
Damn dude, didn't know Pakistanis are this retarded.

>>2864127
>At least the Arabs when they talk about Israel and Iran working together have some internal logic: they distinguish between their own interests and their enemies. In Pakistan every rift between Muslim countries has to be the work of Mossad, RAW, or the CIA, because the idea that Muslims might disagree on their own is apparently unimaginable.
I think the fall of Assad and Jolani taking power in Syria is an example of this. There were a lot of CIA/Mossad narratives about this here on leftypol that remind me of what you're talking about, not factoring the idea of Sunni Arab interests and doing realpolitik around that as a distinct thing. Not saying any particular position or geopolitical orientation is good, but just as a descriptive statement of what's happening and the logic behind it.

When you do realpolitik you have some differences but you have some areas where you overlap and work to create some kind of balance. For Jolani, getting in with the U.S. makes sense because he gets the sanctions off and gets the electricity working. The U.S. isn't doing this because of some morality play, it wants to turn Syria into a buffer state between Israel and Turkey (which is to the benefit of the U.S. as the hegemon), and has also deduced that the Turkish deep state also sees this as in in their interests. But the Israelis have been too retard stupid to understand this, they have a completely weird paranoia such that Iran was turfed out of Syria, but now here come the Turks oh my God and there's an Al Qaeda guy running it and their immediate reaction is to escalate against this THREAT. But they don't realize that this creates a self-fulfilling prophecy that will bumble them into a direct conflict with Turkey which is the one country close to them which they really don't want to get into some shit with. I'm convinced Trump and co. sat down with the Israelis are were like you morons don't know what the hell you're doing.

From the Arab perspective, I don't know how much it takes on the form of a conspiracy theory about Israel and Iran working together (because I don't read Arabic and I'm not plugged into how Arabs talk about it that much), but even though Israel and Iran are enemies they do have a shared interest in being able to project power through Syria and Jolani is an obstacle to that, and thaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2864282
They are about as retarded as most people in third world countries, what's unque to them is they hold an ideological belief that the ummah stands above all else. This is the central foundation on which Pakistan is built and it is seen as something that cannot be compromised. Otherwise, Pakistan would have to redefine itself and confront the very basis of its political existence.

>>2859259
yeah both sides are bad: random civilians in kashmir and the indian government

>>2861878
The Kims were right to not let go of their nukes, if they had, they would've been Venezuela'd by now. Then again, I suppose being in China's backyard is also a defense.

>vidrel
<Is America's North Korea Policy Out of Touch with Reality?
Rightist observer who's written recently about how the US DPRK policy has been an abject failure mostly based on false presumptions.
>>2862199
Sir. This is a discussion about trvvkes.

Let us guarantee the victorious march of the revolution with robust discipline and strict legal order.
Report on the joint party, government, and military meeting
(Pyongyang, July 11, Korean Central News Agency)
The dignity and strength of our Party and State, which steadfastly shoulder the destiny and future of the people and realize the most righteous mission and great historical cause, are founded on strict national laws and a robust system of discipline.

The 9th Congress of the Workers' Party of Korea set forth ensuring unity of action and establishing strong discipline throughout socialist construction as the primary requirements of the times, and the laws of the Republic are directing the spearhead of a resolute struggle against acts of special privileges, special treatment, and corruption that destroy the foundation of our revolution and erode the socialist state system.

At a time when the entire party and the entire people are fully committed to implementing the decisions of the Party Congress, a joint meeting of the party, government, and military was held in Pyongyang on July 10 to sound the alarm against all kinds of counter-revolutionary, anti-socialist, and anti-people acts running counter to this, and to signal the deepening of an intense struggle.

The respected General Secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea and Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea Kim Jong UnComrade attended the joint conference.

Leading officials of the Party, government, and armed forces, commanders of the Korean People's Army at all levels, responsible officials of ministries, central agencies, Party and government agencies, major factories and enterprises, and officials of discipline investigation departments and legal agencies participated in the joint meeting.

The meeting addressed the issue of finding serious lessons from the crimes of corrupt elements within the political organs of the People's Army who committed massive acts of corruption.

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>>2863930
>Park Hee-chol
Anyone know who this Park Hee-chol is who is getting fucking dragged in this meeting?

>>2863930
>Kim Jong UnComrade
you don't need to use a lame AI translation when there is an official English translation.
http://rodong.rep.kp/en/index.php?OEAyMDI2LTA3LTExLTAwOEAxQEBAMUAx

Let Us Guarantee Victorious Advance of Revolution by Strong and Sound Order and Strict Legal Discipline
Report on Joint Meeting of Party, Government and Army of DPRK

The Workers’ Party of Korea and the DPRK are carrying out the most righteous mission and great historic cause, taking full responsibility for the destiny and future of the people. Their prestige and mightiness are based on the strict national law and strong and sound discipline system.

The Ninth Congress of the WPK put forward it as the foremost requirement of the times to ensure the complete unity of action and establish the strong discipline in socialist construction as a whole. And the state law of the DPRK is directing the spearhead of resolute struggle against the acts of exercising privilege, abusing power and resorting to illegalities and corruption which destroy the basis of the Korean revolution and erode socialist state system.

A joint meeting of the Party, the government and the army took place in Pyongyang on July １０ to give a warning to all sorts of anti-revolutionary, anti-socialist, anti-people acts going against the trend of the times when the whole Party and the entire people are going all out for implementing the decisions of the Party congress, and signify the intensified high-intensity struggle.

The respected Comrade Kim Jong Un, General Secretary of the Workers’ Party of Korea and President of the State Affairs of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, attended the joint meeting.
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