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Ask not what communism can do for you, but what you can do for communism.

Communism is NOT a religion, but it is an embodied social practice, "the real movement to abolish the present state of things," and one important thing that can be borrowed from religious studies which applies to embodied social practices in general is this: Credibility Enhancing Dispolays. i.e. "Actions speak louder than words." According to sociological and anthropological research, there are more effective ways to convince someone to believe in god than making arguments. Religious apologetics are demonstrably less effective than other forms of social influence like Credibility Enhancing Displays or trauma. It is practice, not doctrine, which produces converts. I suspect the same is true of secular movements like communism.

>the proletariat will naturally support communism because it is in their class interests.


To an extent, but only a small percentage of the proletariat becomes party members, and at the same time there are remarkable class traitors like Engels. We have to look at what motivates someone to actually join the movement, and not simply "support" it in words. And the answer is risking your life to bring it about. The best way to convince people that communism is important and valuable is not memorizing Marx quotes or slandering other communists as revisionist and opportunist, but sacrificing yourself to bring it about.

https://pureadmin.qub.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/17250565/LanmanBuhrmesterCREDsFinal.pdf

If credibility enhancing displays like martyrdom on behalf of faith, enduring torture by the regime on behalf of faith, going to war on behalf of faith, and sacrificing personal belongs on behalf of faith can increase the faith of those around you, then it can also increase the communism of the proletariat around you. They will see communism is the real deal if they see people fighting and dying to bring it about. This is what the academic marxists fail to understand even if they can perfectly recall the letter of marxism.

In the New Testament, Pharisees are seen as people who place the letter of the law above the spirit (Mark 2:3–28, 3:1–6). Thus, "Pharisee" has entered the language as a pejorative for one who does so. In Communism, who is the phariPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Martydom cults get the wall

>>2819169
But you’re giving them what they want

>>2819174
christians just pretend that they want to be martyrs

Read History as Mystery by Parenti

>>2819196
You’d be amazed at how many people are just quietly and passively suicidal, Christianity and to a lesser extent Islam are valves for that impulse




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We used to be a proper country.

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>>2815176
>Seamen Ask Canada
>Break With Spain

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cucked




 

You may have heard of Bosnia, but you probably did not know that is not a sovereign and independent state, it is a NATO colony. This isn't hyperbole, this is a fact.

Bosnia has something called a "High Representative for Bosnia and Herzegovina.
https://www.ohr.int/en/
This is a NATO-appointed governor who must approve all elections and elected officials, all laws and pretty much everything else that has to do with governance. Liberals refer to this person as a "powerful peace envoy" lol.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg5pvj5pg51o

*Why is it relevant?*
The governor is about to change. The US and EU will each try to install their own.

*Why is Bosnia important?*
Bosnia is the only Muslim country in Europe. This means that it is the only country whose banks can hold money of observant Muslims. A lot of money going from Middle East to Europe goes through Bosnia.

Bosnia's location is in the heart of the Balkans. It is a gateway from central Europe to Balkans, Black and Aegean Seas. Geographically it is mountainous and covered in forests. It is very easy to have guerrillas/insurgents/partisans running around Bosnia causing trouble.

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The Balkans had a glimpse of cultural relevancy and hard-power from 1945-1992 and they collectively decided it shouldnt ever happen again and massacring your neighbor over who was the less groyped by Ottomans was better.
Ethnonationalism, not even once.

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>Bosnia always seems to be on the verge of war
don't worry its all mostly just theatrics and empty threats spew by the corrupt politicans (oligarchs and gangsters) to keep the proles divided, no one is actually interested in another war due to it being harmful to their wealth (and a lack of competence)

>>2817387
I think it's better to tell the truth and then elaborate on the implications of that truth, otherwise it looks like we're lying.

>>2819077
But I am speaking "the truth". I am saying what's really happening. Even the media calls him a "viceroy". I think "governor" is a synonym (or close to) for "viceroy".




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>fucking up the world's economy and the youth for two decade because of a flu that mainly kill the gigaold boomer rentier class and a few terminally ill people who wouldve died 6 month later anyway
While rightoids made a clown show of the whole situation, as usual, with their antivaxx conspiratard bullshit featuring Favci killing one trillion goyim with MNRA black magic, i still don't understand what was the rational behind the lockdowns and demolishing the supply chain. How does the bourgeoisie profit from it? Why even third world war torn shithole like Lebanon or Sudan did it? Why did China?
It felt like all of our elites became insane.
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>>2819187
It was really terrible for people who lived alone in a tiny appartment or renting a maid's room. Young people being trapped with abusive parents also. I had several friend in Paris who became almost insane from it.
Otherwise it was fine. It's the economic consequence that we are still dealing with that are bad. Nothing ever came back to pre-covid level. Employment (which was already bad), prices, the quality of most services, even lots of food products have become bad.
It also made a quarter of the population insane.

My dad died

>>2819191
So it sucked for people who already had sucky lives. It was probably going to suck for them no matter what happened.

Quarantine showed we can reverse climate change

>>2819191
I lived alone in a studio apartment in a basement during covid and it still wasn't that bad for me. I did get to go to work but people acted like they got sealed in their apartments like china



 

🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

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>>2817253
We got Atomwaffen x Antifa before GTA 6

>>2817286
>So this is what fedlix was rambling about. if he had any social skills whatsoever he could have easily explained what he meant instead of making it sound like he was celebrating the death of victims lol
making sense is contrary to his mission. he has to say the truth in the most confusing and hostile way possible

American national bouj, about 150 years too late

>>2819110
i feel bad for deaf people who think the easter egg subtitles are what he's actually saying lol

>>2819110
the guy is wrestling with the contradictions but still coming up short. he thinks a mid sized regional business won't be destroyed like a mom and pop shop, but it will be. it just can't compete with a monopoly. this is why the teddy roosevelt era bourgeoisie in america did trust busting, while across the pond lenin was nationalizing monopolies and having them owned by the proletarian dictatorship. those are your two options. break up the monopolies which is just kicking the can down the road since it resets competition, punishes "winners" and makes the future emergence of new monopolies inevitable, or build a new mode of production centered around worker ownership of monopolies.



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The term "antisemitism" has lost all meaning for me. In a lot of western countries they have an entire year's worth of history curriculum dedicated to the holocaust, which is very real and did happen, but anyway… my point here is that when the media says "antisemitism" they want to conjure up the image of neo-nazis and white power "people" when most of the time they are talking about Palestinians who had their land forcefully expropriated in the same way that the native americans did. One group wants genocide, one is actively fighting against a genocide, yet they are both treated as "antisemitism" by the media. It's such a slick and disingenuous use of the term. That's why I can't stand when I hear it these days
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>>2818343
>Probably the majority of people have no idea that millions of non Jews were killed in the Holocaust,
even in the US i was taught that so idk what you're on about

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>>2818333
didn't deny there's a jewish-centric and jewish supremacist revisionist history, just pointed out that history of the non-jewish victims is not generally denied, even if it is also not mentioned often enough. I think it should be mentioned more often, in contrast to nazis, who deny all of it, or say it was all good

>>2818990
the techbros made everyone stupider and more reactionary in a matter of years

>>2818028
>ziorat spotted

>>2818990
Sophie is based.
Calling reactionaries out for their contradictions is good. Even if done so crudely. These filth are not interested in good faith debate so telling them they are the real "Epstein sl4ves" in a way is praxis.



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Communism is an impossibility, you’re never getting rid of the division of labor. Even if you got rid of entrepreneurs and investors and replaced them with the state you’ll never have factory workers doing brain surgery or high level accounting. Unless you rotate which sector sets the government agenda (which will inevitably benefit itself above the wider community) you’re just going to have a dictatorship of HR departments, which would be worse than the status quo.
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>>2813589
>Communism is an impossibility
I will make it possible

>>2813589
>equating capitalist mode of production with expertise/specialization
You know that guilds predate capitalism by thousands of years right?
The idea that "entrepreneurs" and investors are experts is also hilarious - the opposite is true in most cases.

>>2813589
>you’re never getting rid of the division of labor.
so? division of labor is good. do you want plumbers doing neurosurgery?

>>2818963
If you have a problem with your brain, that’s your own fault and moral failure, every kind of surgery is just enabling bad behavior

>>2819008
Stop bumping slide threads, retard.



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Ibn Khaldun already had a labor theory of value and theory of evolution in 1377:

https://traditionalhikma.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/The-Muqaddimah-by-Ibn-Khaldun-Translated-by-Franz-Rosenthal.pdf

Evolution:
>The animal world then widens, its species become numerous, and, in a gradual process of creation, it finally leads to man, who is able to think and to reflect. The higher stage of man is reached from the world of the monkeys, in which both sagacity and perception are found, but which has not reached the stage of actual reflection and thinking. At this point we come to the first stage of man after (the world of monkeys). This is as far as our (physical) observation extends.

Labor Theory of Value:
>Now, as we shall mention, labor is the real basis of profit. When labor is not appreciated and is done for nothing, the hope for profit vanishes, and no (productive) work is done. The sedentary population disperses, and civilization decays.

HOW WAS HE SO BASED?
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evoluution nor the LTV were crazy concepts, i'd argue both existed in some form in the roman period

Marx never claimed to have invented LTV, he was very clear about being a critic of the inconsistent LTV of Ricardo and Smith.

>Ibn Khaldun already had a labor theory of value and theory of evolution in 1377
so did Thomas Aquinas, who died before Ibn Khaldun was even born

>>2818714
Both are far better than the revisionist Karl Marx.

>>2818714
Did Tom also invent sociology?



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From a Marxist perspective, which side should we support critically?
>Kasakela
>Kahama
>Mitumba
>Kalande
>the meow hooohoo haaahaaa

Whoever is the most historically progressive.

>>2818760
Finally a good fucking threat



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>Soviet Archives

Reminder: There is no monolithic Soviet archives. It's an umbrella term usually to refer to the over a dozen central state archives in Moscow, which over the course of several mergers, acquisitions, and Renamings got the main previously classified government records and communist party records. Certain collections are open to the public. Other archives might be invitation only or by request of scholars. There are certain records that to this day are still classified, especially retaining to some of the operations of the Cheka, NKVD, and KGB are deemed to still be relevant to Russian national security and are usually within the FSB archives. The term could also include regional and local archives across the country and in other former Soviet countries. In the broadest sense it could even refer to archives completely outside the former Soviet Union, which have a Soviet documentary focus.

So just keep that in mind any time anyone refers to "the soviet archives" in a casual conversation. Maybe interrogate what they mean by that, regardless of whose "side" they appear to be on.
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>>2816658
gee beria, how come the politburo lets you have two typewriters?

>>2816658
Damn, I can't believe the Soviets would deliberately fill their archives with false documents to mislead western researchers 50 years later. What a bunch of dumbasses.
That's almost as bad as every old Bolshevik being a secret Trotskyist wrecker and Nazi collaborator and no one finding out until Stalin did in the 1930s. Was the USSR always this incompetent?

>>2816692
there's no need for snark
the implication is that there's people working in the archives, who have access to blank letterheads, producing documents that push whatever narrative the Russian Federation wants the world to see. there was a thread on this board a couple of years ago looking at the forensics of this, the conclusion of which is that either Beria used a second typewriter only for things like execution orders that put the USSR in a bad light, or someone is or was producing fakes
>That's almost as bad as every old Bolshevik being a secret Trotskyist wrecker and Nazi collaborator and no one finding out until Stalin did in the 1930s
do you have evidence to the contrary?

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>>2816658
>there's also the possibility that some purported documents from the archives are fakes
This is probably true. Especially from both Khrushchev, and the wrecker Yakovlev. The katyn massacre files were most likely forged, for sure.

All of the "Soviet Archives" released during Yeltsin's term are fake.



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