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Thread for the landlocked ex-Yugoslavian Balkan country in Southeast/Central Europe, bordering Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, North Macedonia, Montenegro, Bosnia & Herzegovina, and Croatia.

I guess the president of Serbia who looks like Chudjak has a football mafia that shoves people into meat grinders or some shit Edition
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>>2910651
>meme flag
openionings discardenings

>>2910884
>But I've heard that the term political corruption has a broader meaning in Serbian than in English, though I don't quite understand that.
I'm an ignorant American (although from a very corrupt and screwed-up part of it) but I think think it's an Eastern European and Balkans thing where corruption is a broader signifier for why their country is dysfunctional and rotted in a deeper way which requires rotor-rooting out the whole structure which everyone also sort of knows. Does that make sense? Maybe it doesn't but I've heard people from that part of the world talk in those terms. Like a feeling that you're not living in a proper country but are having to deal with the mafia or something.

>>2915255
>corruption is a culture thing instead of an economics thing
kys, ignorant burger

>>2914443
I was wrong about two thing here, the first being that he didn't say right wing parties but russophilic parties (yes he actually used that word) and he did not force through the coalition, but the purge of everyone who voted against the coalition. They did not end up forming the coalition anyway.

>>2914474
I don't think I've ever seen someone who identifies as a Serb simp for the ustase. The closest I've seen to ustase apologia that's common with Serbs online is that some anti-Yugoslav Serbs like to imply that the ustase are a natural consequence of forming Yugoslavia. As for nazis, there are definitely nazis here but I think it's less common than many other European countries.

>>2915208
Serbs aren't indigenous because there is no settling nation they would be indigenous against. The Ottomans don't count because they worked by converting parts of the local population. Also, until recently Bosnia didn't actually have a majority ethnicity. But at the last census the Bosniaks managed to get majority by a hair.

>>2915255
>Like a feeling that you're not living in a proper country but are having to deal with the mafia or something.
But isn't that a somewhat popular sentiment in the USA too? Especially after Epstein.
And it's not like there's no corruption in the West outside the USA. Capitalism is contradictory with the promises of liberal democracy, and symptoms of that can be seen as "corruption" usually.

>>2915605
>Serbs aren't indigenous because there is no settling nation they would be indigenous against
They are indigenous because they have been there because they aren't settlers, they were there before.



 

AFD party is lesser evilism

They want to end the UKKKraine relationship
Recognise NATO genocide against Russia
Against NATO expansion and want to leave it
Supporting GermExit
Only opposition are Neoliberalglobohomoism

Tell me why are they le bad other than immigration?
Even China has strict immigration policies.
Critical supporting them is win win for Anti-imperialists nations.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is the logical conclusion of focusing more on "anti-imperialism" (based on vibes and not on Lenin's definition) than on working class struggle against capital.

What a ugly german jesus

>Hurrr imma support da openly neo-nazi party because they hate da gays and love Putin!!!
Why are we tolerating people here who don't even pretend to be leftist anymore?
Both NATO and Russia are the same capitalist shit and both Ukrainians and Russians are waving around fascist symbols when they kill each other on the front lines.
There is also nothing leftist about being a social reactionary or supporting ultra-conservative theologically inspired moralist idpol.
Also:
>Genocide against Russia
Holy fucking shit
You've no problem with Putin and Russia being friends with Netanyahu and Israel, or what's happening in Palestine, but there's a genocide against Russians?
You think even people in Russia say that kind of shit? Nope, only deranged american ziggers.

With the OP you can clearly see how blind loyalty to fundamentalist campism and third worldism and russian nationalism leads to full blown anti-communist thought, nazification, and irreparable brain damage
Notice how the issue of class struggle is something he cares not one iota about

>I don't care if they're Nazis as long as they support Russia
Every time.

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Who would dig ditches and clean toilets under communism? My intro to sociology professor said it would be volunteers on a rotating basis but I don’t see that happening.
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>>2915006
>there's an episode of nathan for you that highlighted this pretty well, where nathan decides to become a daredevil who risks a fate even worse than death by challenging himself to escape from a pair of handcuffs before a robotic arm unbuttons and unzips and removes his pants and exposes him to a crowd of children and he becomes a convicted sex offender

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He

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>>2915060
>Why would i be the one cleaning the toilets? Would you want me in a maid outfit too?
No. It's Sasha's job to be in a maid outfit if she consents to it. You will be purposed to clean toilets. You will not ask anymore.

pipo on community service



 

Genuinely what would have even changed, internal policy- wise if he had taken power instead of Stalin?
How would the lives of ordinary soviet citizens and the ones in the (presumedly) soon to be liberated areas be different? How would the state function under his rule? What makes him so different that even to this day he has followers ready to die for his ideas? Sorry for being a theorylet, I just find the whole Trotsky-Stalin affair to be confusing and pointless.
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>>2915918
The USSR would've conquered all of Europe to the Atlantic, would've collapsed in 1997 instead.

>>2917274
>merciless
germans living elsewhere were all deported back to Germany after the war and all the Nazis on the east sides got fucked,what could he have done more ?

>>2917274
Trot supported half those nazis after he left the USSR

>>2915935
Better than Jewish

>>2917190
>he predicted the evil stalinist "bureacuracy" (which he himself was part of) would turn into the new capitalists
And he was right



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>Leninist doctrine holds that a vanguard Party should assume state power and drive the population to economic development, and, by some miracle that is unexplained, to freedom and justice. It is an ideology that naturally appeals greatly to the radical intelligentsia, to whom it affords a justification for their role as state managers. I can’t see any reason — either in logic or history — to take it seriously. Libertarian socialism (including a substantial mainstream of Marxism) dismissed all of this with contempt, quite rightly.
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>>2896059
>s, meanwhile pacific islanders were doing it in outrigger canoes for thousands of years by attuning their brains to the movements of the waves beneath the boat by some means modern neurology still doesn't understand
wait what? I thought they just followed birds from island to island

>>2885576
>he Party isn't some self-appointed club of enlightened intellectuals

It literally is though.

This is why I support CLR James's Every Cook Can Govern, whereby governance is drawn by lot from the population (with certain technical roles reserved) https://www.marxists.org/archive/james-clr/works/1956/06/every-cook.htm

>>2917103
Swiss model is better than having randoms decide.

>>2895569
>t. poltard

>>2895502
Bro thinks miasma wasn't believed by the common folk LMAO



 

My friend just showed me a real framed photo she has of her grandma with Kim Il-Sung and Samora Machel from when she worked in the Mozambican government during its socialist era, just thought you guys should know that.
The funniest part is her grandma being white
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>>2886180

forget anarchist, no communist should respect a monarchy, the juche idea isnt even a real idea, nobody can speak clearly or define it, juche seems to mean anything and everything, which is conveinenet for grifters ig but its no marxist in fact its anti marxist

>>2835193
>The funniest part is her grandma being white
I don't think it was that uncommon, i have comrades in my local radical milieu who are white who went and worked in revolutionary african states after their revolutions.

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>>2835329
They had a beautiful friendship

>>2886183
Insanely based anon

>>2835200
Nice try fed



 

You'll never live like common people
You'll never do what ever common people do
Never fail like common people
You'll never watch your life slide out of view
And then dance, and drink, and screw
Because there's nothing else to dooo
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>>2917809
I won’t concede your “foreigners in general are more likely to rape” racist formulation, because the current evidence base does not support treating that as a universal, measured individual-level rate. The Migration Observatory’s August 2026 review explicitly says actual offending rates by group are unknown and that there is no published immigration-status breakdown for convicted offenders: https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-and-crime-in-the-uk/

Hence why I mentioned the Texas study. It provides a useful reference precisely because, unlike the UK data you’re relying on, the Texas dataset actually distinguishes native-born citizens, legal immigrants and undocumented immigrants. The researchers therefore measured the subgroup you’re trying to reason about rather than assuming that its rate must conform to the aggregate foreign-born rate.

That directly undermines the inference you’re making here: being a member of a broader category does not tell us the rate of a particular subgroup within it. You still need subgroup-specific data to establish the subgroup’s rate.

You’ve largely refused to engage with that distinction and instead returned to the assumption that asylum seekers should be expected to conform to the foreign-national rate. But that’s exactly the assumption under dispute.

Also, your 35% calculation is not the problem. My previous correction should be left standing: your arithmetic is now approximately right if the numerator and denominator are treated as compatible. The mistake is what you try to infer from that demographic composition afterward. The Home Office itself reports 42% arriving by small boat and 62% adult male, while separately warning that demographic profiles vary by nationality and route: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-march-2026/how-many-people-claim-asylum-in-the-uk

And your statement that Pakistanis are the majority of asylum seekers is simply false: Pakistan was the largest single nationPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2917809
>>2917811
>racist formulation
After all this is an ad hominem which reveals the raison d'etre of your absurd defence. Instead of wasting all this time, you should have just began with this thought-terminating cliché. I am a "racist"; that is your one and only verdict. I thought you were more clever than this, but apparently not. This is where you begin and end; I am a "racist". What a waste of words.

>>2917985
Aww butturt about being called out are we?

>>2917985
>thought-terminating cliché
As if “rape” and “sexual assault” in victim-centric British society aren’t thought-terminating cliches in and of themselves. Like c’mon, Starmer’s cabinet passed the 2023 Online Safety Act and wanted to ban VPNs under the pretence of wanting to “safeguard” kiddies away from “child rape” and “child sexual assault” first and foremost, because it’s well-known that you can justify a surveillance state if it’s the context of preventing le raep.

And that’s why I’m pushing back: Because as much as British liberals want to pretend that their country is enlightened, thing is that the UK is still stuck in the same mentality that led to the Satanic and “child ritual abuse” moral panics, made worse by the anti-immigration brainrot which seems to have gotten into you.

Most anti-racists here aren’t even pro-open borders anyway making your strawman disingenuous. They’re instead, by and large, opposed to the reactionaries led by thugs such as Danny Tommo and Tommy 10 names and supported by the Tories explicitly and implicitly by the current Labour government. Y’know why? The British left has been housebroken by feminist dogma, central to which is an entire ideology built around the notion that rape is this spectacular event that even a police state isn’t enough to prevent it.

>>2917985
Instead of whining about being called mean names, why don’t you address your opponent’s claims.



 

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>>2875814
There's no use in trying to simulate anything. Simulations will never perfectly reproduce reality. It is thermodynamically impossible.

>>2908045
i once edited videos for a youtuber as a side gig and he made me use these licensed websites even when I told him there was free stuff on archive. then it would often burn through his credits and fail to download anyway. one of the stupidest motherfuckers I have ever worked for.

>>2854866
>Can you highlight the Hegelian logic in Capital for me, please?

Here's an excerpt from chapter 1 with a footnote:

>Since the relative form of value of a commodity – the linen, for example – expresses the value of that commodity, as being something wholly different from its substance and properties, as being, for instance, coat-like, we see that this expression itself indicates that some social relation lies at the bottom of it. With the equivalent form it is just the contrary. The very essence of this form is that the material commodity itself – the coat – just as it is, expresses value, and is endowed with the form of value by Nature itself. Of course this holds good only so long as the value relation exists, in which the coat stands in the position of equivalent to the linen.[22]


Here's the footnote:

>22. Such expressions of relations in general, called by Hegel reflex categories, form a very curious class. For instance, one man is king only because other men stand in the relation of subjects to him. They, on the contrary, imagine that they are subjects because he is king.

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is it true that the NEP was just Bolshevik leadership finally adopting Menshevik ideas after war communism failed?



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leute, ich rufe ich dazu auf hier in euer eigenen sprache zu posten. es ist an der zeit das diktat der anglos zu brechen. vorallem in hinblick darauf, dass das hier ein linkes bzw. multipolaristisch ausegrichtetes forum ist.

wir leben im zeitalter der maschinellen übersetzung. früher mussten nicht-anglos die ganze kognitive last tragen. wir mussten uns den anglos anpassen. damit ist jetzt schluss! wenn jemand an einem beitrag interessiert ist, dann wird er ihn selbst durch ein übersetzungstool jagen. ich tue das für meine eigenen beiträge jedenfalls nicht mehr. die englische sprache ist keine lingua franca, sondern ein werkzeug des anglo kulturimperialismus! es ist zeit widerstand zu leisten! postet in eurer sprache!
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What language is this

Vere nihil utilis dicere potest, quo modum verba ipsa legi non curat.

>>2909243
hey anglo, ich werde hier nie wieder mehr auf englisch schreiben.

DEAL WITH IT

Podbijam bo chciało mi się mówić po polsku na lewicopolityce kropka organizacja

>>2908691
Boh ci sta anche per essere



 

Why is it that the surviving members of the George W. Bush administration who acted as the architects of the Iraq War have never faced any legal penalties for what they did?

The 2003 US invasion of Iraq was arguably one of the worst human rights atrocities of the past 50 years. Over 1 million Iraqi CIVILIANS were killed. If that's not a low key genocide similar to Gaza I don't know what is. But it's even worse knowing this war was based entirely on a gigantic lie (a "noble lie" if you will) by some of the slimiest, most diabolical villains ever known to American politics. Yes, Dick Cheney, Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld are dead and rotting in hell. But George W Bush, Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith are still alive. Neocons Bill Kristol, Robert Kagan and John Bolton who were the top dogs in PNAC (Project for a New American Century), which called for massive military spending and preemptive attacks (also a "New Pearl Harbor" which conveniently happened on 9/11) are also still alive. WHY HAVEN'T ANY OF THEM EVER BEEN CHARGED AS WAR CRIMINALS?????

The Straussian cabal is very real and still holds loads of ideological power within American politics. Many Neocons from the Bush II era have now since become Democrats and publicly supported Kamala Harris over Trump on the basis Trump wasn't Neocon enough. These people have names and addresses and have to face some kind of legal penalties so the world can finally have closure and the Neocon war criminals can finally reap what they sowed.
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>>2913571
>I hate white people unless they’re good goyim who advance Jewish supremacy. I hate redneck cattle.
If you drew a venn diagram for rednecks and zionists it'd become a circle. Hell they don't even have to be christian they're always on board for killing muslims due to the rampant racism.

Damn, didn’t know Arendt was the psycho ex.

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imo choosing to be a "leftist", i.e. aligning yourself with social justice, doesn't count for very much until you are able to understand and accept the fact that there is no social justice. you have to know exactly what it is you are up against and just how outmatched and outclassed and outnumbered you really are and how much the odds are really against you and, most importantly, know that the universe itself is not on your side or on anyone's side and there is no cosmic order that plays favorites in human affairs, it's entirely in your hands.

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>>2890033
bleak truth nuke

>>2914953
Edgy BS. Evil doesn't rule, good doesn't rule, the world is what we make of it yes but we shouldn't go in with a bias of assuming 'there is no justice'.



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