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Genuinely, what is the psychology of guys who like both Nazi Germany and the USSR? I've encountered quite a few of them. Some are Westerners, while others are from the third world. from what I've seen most of them don't seem to have any real political beliefs beyond hating the US. Is that really all there is to it?
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>>2938538
more self aware than 99.999999999999% of people like you award

>>2938538
The majority of power worshippers are 60+

>>2938538
I had a similar problem like you when I was younger, but ended up reacting in an opposite manner (hating control and authority and wishing to abolish it). I dont want power for myself. I want it gone for good.

>>2938538
>>2938571
>>2938609
what said >>2938575 this explanation doesn't work cause most who hold these views are the "normie" population of former eastern block spaces

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Is it the return of nazbol gang?


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The Sino-Soviet split was the gradual worsening of relations between the People’s Republic of China and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) during the Cold War. This was primarily caused by divergences that arose from their different interpretations and practical applications of Marxism–Leninism, as influenced by their respective geopolitics during the Cold War of 1947–1991.[1] In the late 1950s and early 1960s, Sino-Soviet debates about the interpretation of orthodox Marxism became specific disputes about the Soviet Union's policies of national de-Stalinization and international peaceful coexistence with the Western Bloc, which Chinese leader Mao Zedong decried as revisionism. Against that ideological background, China took a belligerent stance towards the Western world, and publicly rejected the Soviet Union's policy of peaceful coexistence between the Western Bloc and Eastern Bloc.[1] In addition, China resented the Soviet Union's growing ties with India due to factors such as the Sino-Indian border dispute, while the Soviet Union feared that Mao was unconcerned about the drastic consequences of nuclear warfare.[2]

In 1956, Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev denounced Joseph Stalin and Stalinism in the speech "On the Cult of Personality and Its Consequences" and began the de-Stalinization of the USSR. Mao and the Chinese leadership were appalled as the PRC and the USSR progressively diverged in their interpretations and applications of Leninist theory. By 1961, their intractable ideological differences provoked the PRC's formal denunciation of Soviet communism as the work of "revisionist traitors" in the USSR.[1] The PRC also declared the Soviet Union social imperialist.[3] The Soviet Union, in turn, criticized Mao Zedong and China's practices during the subsequent Cultural Revolution. For Eastern Bloc countries, the Sino-Soviet split was a question of who would lead the revolution for world communism, and to whom (China or the USSR) the vanguard parties of the world would turn for political advice, financial aid, and military assistance.[4] In that vein, both countries competed for the leadership of world communism through the revolutionary parties native to the countries in their spheres of influence.[5] The conflict culminated after the Zhenbao Island border incident in 1969, after which the Soviet Union reportedly considered the possibility of launching a large-scale nuclear strike against China, and the Chinese leadership, includinPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2938578
Albania was full retard on these issues.

>>2938464

idk man i think not, even just the attitutde towards the peasanta was wrong. Mao is unique because he defied the soviet peasant pessimism

>>2937437
hello nafoid

>>2938462
Korea is really only big one where Stalin was in the wrong, the others are mostly things they caused themselves and then blamed Stalin on it

>>2938417
this


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So..I heard you like progress. Progress is always good, right?

It's always so good, and so proper, to be progressive after all.

You wouldn't want to be a CONSERVATIVE or God forbid, a REACTIONARY, would you? Yeah.. Why would we like those people..
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>>2938577
the cultivation of fire for cooking meat

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>>2938586
The fire automatically breaks down food and makes it tasty and these days "everyone drinks the same coke, from the queen of england to the bum on the street." So not a good example.

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>>2938584
for sure

>>2938589
Wtf is this from lol

>>2938601
https://alpha-high-bootcamp.vercel.app/

Jesus Christ how horrifying


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Every two years there is a new flood of "voteposting" (i.e. dunking on shitlibs who think voting is sufficient praxis by mockingly parroting dem messaging). I believe this was started by Clinton's "pokemon go to the polls," which was emblematic of the disconnect between the Democratic party and young leftists. Voteposting is, admittedly, very funny, but I worry that the message that voteposting gets across is that voting is useless. Unless I'm seriously mistaken, voting does seem to be a utility gain on average, even if the candidate we vote for only sucks marginally less than the other guy.

Questions I'd like to make progress on:
* Is voting productive?
* Is voteposting productive?
* What memetic strategies are most effective for this issue?
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Everytime there's US presidential/congress election there's a flood of posters who claim voting is useless, you should never vote, you're a labor aristo/shitlib/lumpen/anticommunist if you do. But if you do vote, you should vote for the GOP because "accelerationism"

Also if you're a burger you're responsible for Gaza and every crime of the US empire of the past 40 years (including if you're a zoomer). But you should never ever vote for anyone opposing this or Israel, because they're all sucdems, and social democracy is basically fascism, except for the GOP. Which is accelerationism.

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>>2938378
Social Democracy is the only viable praxis in the Imperial Core (Maoist PPW is currently viable in the Material Conditions of the Periphery/Semi-Periphery as proven by the ongoing Maoist PPWs in India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Peru, and will only be viable in the Material Conditions of the Imperial Core once Bourgeois Liberal Democracy is permanently suspended and/or World War III breaks out, with these two events being related and probably happening around the same time) as long as Bourgeois Liberal Democracy exists, and I advocate voting for Left-Liberal Democrats as a Lesser Evil to Christian Zionist Nationalist Evangelical MAGAtard Republicans, and I support AOC being the 2028 Democratic Presidential Nominee, though I would explicitly advise all Comrades to avoid joining the DSA or any other Leftist organizations in the U$, as doing so is just putting yourself on a list of the first people that will be rounded up and thrown in Concentration Camps if/when the U$ goes full Fascist, and I would also advise avoiding all Protests, especially anything Anti-Zionist/Pro-Palestine, as I suspect that the Zionist-Palestinian conflict is being purposely astroturfed into U$ politics (Comrades must remember that Real Communists (Marxist-Leninist-Maoists) refuse to take sides in Inter-Reactionary/Bourgeois/Imperialist Conflicts and that October 7th was a Mossad False Flag conducted by the Mossad operated Crypto-Zionist Theocratic Islamist Fascist Puppet organization called “Hamas”, to act as the Casus Belli for the Zionist Genocide of Gaza and throw the 2024 Presidential Election to Trump in coordination with the Controlled Opposition Biden/Harris administration in order to allow Trump to turn the U$ into a Fascist State, just like 9/11 was a CIA/Mossad False Flag to act as a Casus Belli for the U$ Imperialist Invasions of Baathist Iraq, one of the last Leftist Arab Nationalist States in the Arab world, and Afghanistan along with to coverup Project Hammer, and the 1999 Russian Apartment Bombings carried out by GRU/FSB/CIA that allowed the Fascist Vlasovite Yeltsin hand power over to the Fascist Vlasovite Eurasianist/Duginist Putin and act as the Casus Belli for the Genocidal Russian Invasion of Chechnya) in order to create a phony “Anti-Semitism” narrative, which combined with the DSA being falsely labeled as a “Communist threat” (their are many sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2938427
trvth nvke that made the ragebaiters baited

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>>2938549


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Dengism is retarded
>created a national bourgesisie that constantly has to be purged because they obviously oppose the state
>created an economic bubble that caused the GDP and living standards to collapse by 1993
>the industrial base for it was only even possible because of maoist central planning years earlier
>is not giga
>is retarded
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>bump locked
kwab, the MLib wokemob cant handle banter

>>2938512
it's nothing but banter, posts of significant effort ITT got ignored or just shit on with low effort bait.

>>2937402
>DENGISM IS RETARDED BECAUSE UHHHH… IT WORKS!

>>2937520
>the natural state of humanity for millions of years is idealist, suicidal and reactionary

>>2938769
thinking you can go back to it is. read the rest of the post … oh wait, reading is technology. never mind. practice what you preach and hit yourself on the head until you become illiterate.


 

>Typical zionist projection slop on North Korea
>Punish kids for 3 generations because traitors or some shit
>Russia evil wants to destabilize poor South Korea
>Kim Jong Un secret good guy
>Russia destabilized Venezuela somehow?

Why don't Russia and China make games where you fight USA/NATO with cinematic campaigns?
I would love to play that.
Video games are the most efficient ways of delivering propaganda and you can tell just by how much controversy they generate and the youtube video essays rebuttals that come afterwards.
Only the west is taking advantage of this. Meanwhile China is trying to get on the west's good graces. Even Russia with its shitty philosophical Atomic Heart bullshit didn't cut it.

No. They must make Chinese COD where you do Black Ops shit like blow up Data Centers and Liberate an ICE facility, followed by a TNO The Fire Rises-style civil war missions. Trust me, American slop consumers would love that shit. I could write the campaign and in any decently run universe I would get an Oscar for it.

Anybody got any ideas how the anti-imperialist countries can make COD-like games?
Only based game developers out there are the ones that made Knights of Al-Aqsa.
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>>2938254
It's not actually about North Korea. 100% of American media where the North Koreans are the villains are meant to be about China. But the capitalists of America are so cucked by wanting access to the Chinese market that they can never bring themselves to actually make China the villain and thus get themselves banned from the country, so they always palate swap them with North Koreans for plausible deniability.

>>2938254
I remember Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction. Only game I can think of that actually takes place in the DPRK. It has the fear mongering of course, but crucially you’re able to tear through the entire North Korean government and level the entire country with nukes only being launched when you’re literally about to capture the leader (who doesn’t seem to resemble any real leader).

That’s actually depicting North Korea having an incredible amount of restraint, compared to the usual depiction of them trying to invent a reason to launch them.


Despite the dark grimness of the war zone, the towns and cities are depicted actually somewhat faithfully and therefore rather pleasant, surprisingly, considering the gimmick of the game is you can demolish any building you want without consequence.

>>2938266
Yeah true. I was about to say that, North Korea is like Top Gun one and two, fighting against indescript small rogue nation with jet technology. Alienating the Norks is equivalent to alienating a made up country since they're not party of the global economy. But Americans are such fucking cowards. Imagine making up movie after movie about how you beat up on this podunk nation or that. I guess it's the new Victorian adventure genre. At least with Nazis we can pretend they had Nazi super science and mecha and moon bases and demon technology or whatever.

>>2938266
It is also easier to demonize and basically make up anything about the DPRK and people will believe it. The fact that people get executed for having the same cut as KJU AND you get executed for NOT having KJU cut in the same propaganda reel shows that you can say anything and people will believe it. China has too much of a diaspora abroad and is not sanctioned to the degree DPRK is and Chinas Markets make it much easier to dispute ridiculous claims.
The demonization has also made reunification less attainable to the point the DPRK gave up on reunification. If you hear what ROK say about Northerners it would make anyone afraid, literally talking about slave labor for Northerners because "they are all cultists for the Kim family" and are "too dumb unlike the prosperous South".

Moved to >>>/games/48407.


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>>2935311
Yo my sincere gratitude to you bordy guys for taking a good chunk of the garbage away from this website keep up the good work

>>2935311
Thank god bordigayfags are finally fucking off

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>>2935544
so much for that lol

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France to deploy 70,000 police ahead of new protests
President Emmanuel Macron, who according to aides is postponing a visit later this month to Nigeria and Senegal amid the crisis, held a meeting of his defence council of top ministers and officials and was to meet security forces. He also hosted for the first time representatives of high school pupils, whose protests over conditions at their schools sparked the movement that has broadened into a nationwide show of anger against the government at the rising cost of living.
https://www.newarab.com/news/france-deploy-70000-police-ahead-new-protests

German youth plan France-style mass protests
Gen Z regelt's website clearly states that the initiative is "against all violence," whether directed at people or property. Police say they are "vigilant and relaxed," adding that they intend to protect people's right to congregate and express their opinions. Still, images of massive damage and public violence from France, Italy and Spain have raised concerns among domestic policymakers and police, who have warned against allowing the protests to be hijacked by left-wing extremists.
https://www.dw.com/en/german-youth-plan-france-style-mass-protests/a-79727133

Massive student-led rally marches in Belgrade ahead of Serbian election
The Student List, a leaderless movement of student-backed candidates, wants to end more than 14 years of rule by Vucic’s rightwing populist Serbian Progressive party (SNS) in Sunday’s vote. Civil society groups have said the campaign has been marred by intimidation, arrests and misuse of public resources.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/oct/23/serbia-election-student-list-rally-belgrade-aleksandar-vucic

Protests spread across Syria amid surge in Israeli incursions in the south
Participants voiced support for Syria’s territorial unity and called for an end to Israeli incursions and violations against civilians. They also urged thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Jayapal, Sanders Question Zuckerberg Over Alleged Meta Interference in Brazilian Election
Leftist Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva is facing far-right Sen. Flávio Bolsonaro, the son of former President Jair Bolsonaro, in Sunday’s election. Lula has asked the Superior Electoral Court to probe his challenger over “improper use” of a social network and disqualify him, and Bolsonaro—an ally of US President Donald Trump—has similarly sought Lula’s disqualification.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/brazil-election

Trump administration abandons appeals in fight over student loan forgiveness program
The Education Department wanted to place limits on who could qualify for PSLF, which gives student loan forgiveness to people in government and nonprofit jobs after 10 years of payments. It had sought to bar people at nonprofits who worked on immigration rights and other left-leaning issues, but the move was blocked by a judge over the summer. The Justice Department originally appealed the judge’s decision but on Wednesday agreed to drop the case with little explanation.
https://thehill.com/homenews/education/6164998-public-service-loan-forgiveness-student-debt-relief-pslf/
https://archive.ph/GfuPH

Employers Shift Rising Health Care Costs Onto Millions of Workers
Many people are also paying thousands of dollars in medical expenses when they get sick, because companies have increased the plans’ deductibles to offset increases in premiums. The yearly price, on average, for employees to cover their family is now $7,471 a year, up 9 percent from 2025. The total cost for a family plan, including the amount the employer contributes to the annual premiums, has reached $28,303.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/22/business/health-insurance-costs-workers-premiums-deductibles.html
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TYBNA

Another East Jerusalem neighbourhood is demolished as the world fails to act
Down a track and past a pile of debris, 20 or so well-dressed people are waiting, all diplomats. I am joining them on a trip around al-Bustan, a Palestinian neighbourhood in occupied East Jerusalem that has been scheduled for demolition. Many homes have been destroyed already. Bustan (“the Orchard”) is to be turned into a car park and recreation ground for settlers - but not for Palestinian residents, who will by then be absent. We stumble past the ruins of what used to be a house. In the garden is a caravan, where we are met by the owner, Fakhri Abu Diab. His wife Ameena, mother of their five children, stands nearby. “They arrived at three in the morning, armed soldiers with black masks putting a gun to my head,” Fakhri recalls of a recent visit. “They took me to interrogation.” On another occasion, they broke Ameena’s glasses. Terrified, she “clenched her jaw so hard that she broke her teeth”. The diplomats shuffle their feet. Fakhri and Ameena, now in their sixties, have lived in Bustan all their lives. Fakhri is chairman of the local residents’ committee, but he won’t be a resident much longer. Their temporary home is scheduled for demolition within 21 days of 4 October, when a new demolition order was pasted on his gate. They don’t know where to go next. “Whenever I hear bulldozers or any machinery, my automatic reaction is that they are coming for us,” Fakhri tells Middle East Eye.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/we-have-lost-hope-world-looks-away-palestines-history-crushed

Czech Republic: Leading KSČM members condemn Konečná's alignment with the far right
Kateřina Konečná's decision to join the far-right, xenophobic and anti-communist Patriots for Europe group in the European Parliament has triggered fierce criticism within the Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia (KSČM). Leading party cadres, including Vice-Chairman Milan Krajča and Petra Prokšanová, have publicly condemned the move, describing it as a fundamental political error and distancing themselves from the former party chairwoman's decision. In a statement published on Thursday, October 22, Krajča stressed that Patriots for Europe brings together right-wing, anti-communist politiciaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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According to Communization Theory, what can communists actually do in terms of action. Is it actually like some users on here say, that communists and communist organizations can't even serve a supplementary role in the real movement? Is it really just sitting back and waiting for the proletariat to spontaneously rise up and then finally communists should get involved?
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>>2936217
maybe
sniff
maybe
but what's the diff btwn dauve's critique of substitutionism and trotsky's critique of substitutionism

>>2936348
>seizing state power is the revolution
>>2936424
<Not for marxists or anarchists
then what is "revolution" according to them? because I always thought of it as the moment when the proletariat seizes the state and uses it to suppress the bourgeoisie, and establish proletarian class-dictatorship, and then enact changes that "gradually transform" (Engels!) society. I.e. you seize the state and do reforms that weren't possible under the previous class dictatorship because they were always sabotaged or blocked by the previous ruling class. So we see in this view that revolution and reform are not opposites, it's just that the latter must happen after the former, not before.

>>2936446
Thank you for this, doesn't seem as retarded as I thought it was.

>>2936446
>communizers see unions as a mediators who do not further the class struggle towards the enactment of communist measures and in fact see unions as obstacles that must be overcome during the social revolution.
i think it depends on whether those unions are labor-aristocratic/collaborationist/imperialist or not

>>2936434
I didn't ask for a list of prescriptions from you "real"tm socialism checklist. I asked what choices could these people realistically and concretely make that would have resulted in different outcomes. The "mistakes" the we were supposedly to learn from

Why should anyone care about some accounting done by dutch faggots that never amounted to anything? Which already got dogwalked by Lenin over a century ago. The soviet union tried various methods of accounting for labor-time and all it did was return to some kind of wage form.

Most socialist states tried to integrate and advance modern technology to the maximum extent possible. The soviet union for instance went from a semi-feudal backwater to putting people in space in the span of a few decades. If you're talking about the lack of computerization in the SU I agree it was an mistake, though mostly a meme atp, a throwaway issue

Again "support workers self management" is just a vague platitude regarding stuff that historic socialist countries have already done and continue to do, same with political democracy, etc.

I ask again, what alternative choices could these specific states have made? What are the supposed "stagist mistakes" that we are supposed to learn from?


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What is the leftypol consensus on Western Neo-Dengist economics, specifically economists such as Isabella Weber, that are making huge waves right now?
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>>2937778
there are marx quotes in there too. any time i "spam" these quotes 2 things usually happen.

>people ASSOOM the point i am trying to make with them instead of just reading them at face value

>people accuse me of "quotemining" or "taking marx and lenin out of context" but never establish what the correct context is

the replies i get are usually short, low effort, full of accusations ,etc. these are the same anons who will just reply with "read marx" or "read lenin" usually but then when you actually quote marx and lenin they get very upset.

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>>2937781
>Resolutely denounce Deng Xiaoping's reactionary crimes

pretty sure the cultural revolutionaries killed more Communist Party members than Deng Xiaoping did, including veterans of the World Antifascist War, but as usual with you types, killing comrades is the goal, as long as you make sure to slander them as not real communists beforehand.

<The United States and the Soviet Union have held talks that showed an encouraging tendency towards disarmament. We are happy to see this. I looked forward to the end of the Cold War, but now I feel disappointed. It seems that one Cold War has come to an end but that two others have already begun: one is being waged against all the countries of the South and the Third World, and the other against socialism. The Western countries are staging a third world war without gunsmoke. By that I mean they want to bring about the peaceful evolution of socialist countries towards capitalism. We are not surprised at the developments in Eastern Europe. These changes were bound to take place sooner or later. The trouble there started from inside. The Western countries have the same attitude towards China as towards the East European countries. They are unhappy that China adheres to socialism. The turmoil that arose in China this year also had to come about sooner or later. We ourselves were partly to blame. As you know, two of our General Secretaries fell because of their failure to deal with the problem of bourgeois liberalization. If China allowed bourgeois liberalization, there would inevitably be turmoil.[…] the Group of Seven summit meeting issued a declaration imposing sanctions on China. What qualifies them to do that? Who granted them the authority? Actually, national sovereignty is far more important than human rights, but they often infringe upon the sovereignty of poor, weak countries of the Third World. Their talk about human rights, freedom and democracy is only designed to safeguard the interests of the strong, rich countries, which take advantage of their strength to bully weak countries, and which pursue hegemony and practice power politics. We never listen to such stuff. Nor do you.

  • Deng Xiaoping, Speaking to Julius Nyerere, We Must Adhere To Socialism and Prevent Peaceful Evolution Towar
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>>2937789
Kill yourself mao won

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UPHOLD KIRKZALO THOUGHT!

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>>2937791
>Kill yourself mao won

Yes, let us remember the words of the Great Helmsman Mao Zedong:

<The upper petty bourgeoisie and middle bourgeoisie, oppressed and injured by the landlords and big bourgeoisie and their state power, may take part in the new-democratic revolution or stay neutral, though they are themselves bourgeois. They have no ties, or comparatively few, with imperialism and are the genuine national bourgeoisie. Wherever the state power of New Democracy extends, it must firmly and unhesitatingly protect them. […] It is absolutely impermissible to repeat such wrong ultra-Left polices towards the upper petty bourgeois and middle bourgeois sectors in the economy as our Party adopted during 1931-34 (unduly advanced labor conditions, excessive income tax rates, encroachment on the interests of industrialists and merchants during the land reform, and the adoption as a goal of the so-called "workers' welfare", which was a short-sighted and one-sided concept, instead of the goal of developing production, promoting economic prosperity, giving consideration to both public and private interests and benefiting both labor and capital). To repeat such mistakes would certainly damage the interests both of the working masses and of the new-democratic state. […] To sum up, the economic structure of New China will consist of: (1) the state-owned economy, which is the leading sector; (2) the agricultural economy, developing step by step from individual to collective; and (3) the economy of small independent craftsmen and traders and the economy of small and middle private capital. These constitute the whole of the new-democratic national economy. The principles guiding the new-democratic national economy must closely conform to the general objective of developing production, promoting economic prosperity, giving consideration to both public and private interests and benefiting both labor and capital. Any principle, policy or measure that deviates from this general objective is wrong.

  • Mao Zedong, The Present Situation and Our Tasks, 25th December, 1947. Preserved in The Selected Works of Mao Zedong


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