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>state withers away just like marx predicted
>get yeltsin and putin
MLs: WAIT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT NOT LIKE THAT THAT DOESN'T COUNT
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>>2773593
>socialist
>state
That's why Trotskyists will never amount to anything but off-brand MLs

>state is illegally dissolved by a revisionist coup that goes against all public sentiment
<withering away
pick 1 lol

>>2773590
The cia literally coupled it also the ussr didnt start collapsing until they brought perestroika(though it could go all the way back to the mistakes of Brezhnev and revisionism of Kruchev)

This is why Russia is Communist today btw. ZOV ZOV ZOV

>>2774180
No it isn’t it’s a liberal “democracy”



 

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CEASEFIRE EDITION
iRANians betrayed the international proletariat and will allow AmeriKKKan unipolarity world order to remain unchanged as long as it doesn't threat the profits of Iranian oil companies and the """"people's"""" reCUCKblic of Ch¥na
Latest TRVKES:
>iRANian porkies WON
>Gulf Porkies WON
>Ch¥nese Porkies WON
<The international proletariat LOST
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Wait, so there's no ceasefire now?

>>2774110
With Israel? Never was.

I can bake if you want

>>2774100
>the Muslim Israel
Actually, that's called "Somaliland".

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Why did Birobidzhan fail?
It was created as as Jewish Oblast to protect Jewish Russians from pogroms and received thousands of refugees during the Great Patriotic War while Churchill and FDR turned away boatload of refugees from Nazi terror.

Now, there's less than 1000 Jews there. What happened? I get that it doesn't have a Mediterranean weather, but also you can live there without stealing someone else's house.
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>>2771174
>That would be far more accurate, but such a civilization never had any basis to lay claim to East Prussia
That Pan-Slav anon doesn't want to hear this but Russian Civilization isn't even Slav civilization. It is something unique formed by the Eurasian Steppes. It is alien to the likes of Czechs,Poles,Slovenians,etc and makes it easy to differentiate from it

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>>2771174
>It was precisely the opposite, the Slavs were absorbed into the orbit of the Romans because more sophisticated, settled, literate, and urbaized cultures always absorb less sophisticated ones.
The Manchu speak Mandarin, sure, but the Bulgarians speak a Slavic language now, not a Thracian langauge. So obviously these are not the same situation.
>Their language, way of life, and religion would have been totally unrecognizable to the original Slavic tribes that migrated across Eastern Europe nearly 1000 years earlier.
But they were still of the same civilizational lineage, just as modern China has a language unintelligible with the Chinese spoken during the Shang Dynasty, and Oracle bone is unreadable for those only taught modern characters, and their current society is far evolved from the ancient economic basis. But they still share the civilizational essence they had. The Shang Dynasty is uncontroversially a "Chinese" dynasty, and we understand "Chinese" as being of the Chinese civilization.
>Then why was it not given to the Lithuanian or Latvian SSR?
Why would it be given to Latvia? It wasn't given to Lithuania because they refused it. And it was primarily populated with East Slavs because they were understandably seen as more trustworthy to safeguard the restored territory. Just think, if Lithuanians populated it, it would be a bulwark of NATO now. Seems that they were correct in understanding that the Russians were the most trustworthy in upholding the Russian civilization.
>You haven't even been able to define what a "civilization" is.
Do I also need to define what a state is? Any genuine Marxist analysis in the modern day accepts civilizations as materially existing.
>The Balts really seem to disagree pretty hard about that.
Sure, the reactionaries who love Jonas Noreika disagree. They want their country to be an outpost of German imperialism into Russian lands, as the "independent" Baltic states were before WWII, the collaborator Reichskommissariats were during WWII, and the modern republics have been since the dissolution of the USSR. But any progressive movement in the Baltic will necessarily have to embrace its Russian history.
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If israel ceased to exist putin could possibly revive it considering a lot of Russian jews are israeli

>>2773750
>revive it
The Jewish Autonomous Oblast still technically exists, there's just hardly any Jewish people there

>>2773065
This is irrelevant to Russia being Slavic Civilization and that there is a unified Slavic civilization when that never happened and are pretty much three seperate groups



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Why are so many communists opposed to state's rights to national self-administration? Isn't it the job of the local working class to sort out their own contradictions? This just seems like rainbow imperialism. I think an orthodox ML approach would recognize the conversion of many red states to internal colonies and their right to secession. Does not the brain drain of workers from red/rural states to blue/urban states mirror migrant labor from the imperial periphery? In the town-country contradiction, we should support the country.
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>>2773629
I'm a literal crypto anarchist in use le'crypto market to delegiimize banking systems and currency as a whole

Anyway, the point should be to undermine authority any chance you get. If you can use local courts to supersede a higher court ruling to weaken the hegemony or at least self benefit, do it.

Like really it all comes down too does this benefit me or hurt people I don't like. What else is there too life?

Because nationalism is bourgeois

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>>2773647
Petition to give Miraculous christian anarchism flag

>>2772400
Lenin did exactly that. After the revolution, he allowed any states conquered by the Tsarist "prisonhouse of nations" to secede.

>>2773727
Rare lenin L. Was a concession to nationalism, reified national identities in government structures

China did a much better job



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The government doesn't even try to stage a false flag for justification anymore. They just start a war and look at you like this.
But seriously, what made them not even bother to pull another 9/11 for this? The Iran was is insanely unpopular as it stands. Any attack on US soil now would be too suspicious
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>>2735377
This. In fact they adore bourgeois. You ever checked some normie movie section especially about cop shows and casinos or something? I saw one guy who was like "I was kicked out of a casino and black listed for counting cards and I don't even know how" and I responded "sounds like they need a few mass shootings and bomb threats to humble them" and he got defensive with me. uyghur I didn't black list or throw you out lol.

They're fucking cucks and worthless human beings. This is why their children get eaten. I fucking hate the American golem with every fiber of my being. Notice that shit doesn't happen too me because I would in fact call that casino and be like "yes I'm reporting a bomb threat…no no, I mean I'm the one threatening you stupid" lol.

Fucking ridiculous. And they only put up with it because their stupid lizard brains see them as more important because of an abstract concept of social class. Because money comes and goes, and I don't care who the fuck you are, if you do me dirty I'm gonna molest your kids or something. I don't care how psychotic it sounds, don't fuck me over and we won't have a problem. It's not rocket science.

But these people aren't selfish, they're anything but. They're forever giving their blood over to absolute ticks and mosquitos and it's just really fucking weird.

Pic related was right about everything. Probably the smartest liberal to ever exist.

>>2735367
>>2737024
The real answer is that western hegemony is losing its grip and getting desperate

The next "9/¹1" will be the gutting of their sacrificial chicken israel,when suddenly america will have a "revolution" and "based populists" will "get rid of zog", pulling the demoralized americans back in line

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>>2773656
It'll only work on the people it was already working on
Wouldn't work on my homies cause they're just incels. Like unless this reformed imperialist structure is making them lots of money or having twelve year old girls sit on their face, they're still saying death to America just because they can and I agree. At that even bribery wouldn't work. I will forever be mad about how noone did anything to moderators

>>2773667
Man Trump not in a suit and no MAGA cap is weird looking.

>>2735388
There's groups like WAMM and CodePink that harrass politicians etc



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Why do anarkiddies leak so hard about Caleb maupin? According to Marxian thought he didn’t even do anything wrong except make Agent Kochinski (who is a predator btw) leak because he wasn’t in support of unamerican policies. Y’all really need to get a hold of yourselves because bringing down your fellow revolutionaries because they don’t support your agenda. We should be working together
>pic unrelated

I think you might have a brain injury or something, you should go check that out

go to gulag

All of these people prop each other up with fake controversy. Maup learned that from his WWP days. That's always how the left operates in the current scheme; they spend their existence competing for clout in a game that only matters to extremely indoctrinated people.

Really it's so obvious that this is a Satanic psyop and the organizers of all of these factions laugh at making you go along with their stupid game. All of the actual work to stigmatize and delegitimize the left was finished before 2000. So far as this left serves a political function, it's to dumb pure shit into public water to poison any possibility that anyone can speak about anything real. All of these people gang up to attack anyone who deals with reality when we enter their sphere of influence. I've seen them work together for the "greater jihad" of keeping their base as stupid as they are. Maupin got fairly good at luring in the desperate and vulnerable because he offered superficially "exotic" takes and learned some of the old Lyndon LaRouche magic. He's nowhere near the caliber of the OG of course, nor is he near the caliber of the actual present day LaRouchites (who are, as you can guess, people who organize many of thse shit fights from higher up). But, the LaRouchites aren't just another group of stupid people. They have a sophisticated intel network. Basically think Scientology tech mixed with Marxist tactics and Nazi money backing it. (Why else do you think the Germans are so big in the LaRouche Movement? There's Bormann Capital money gushing through them and a lot of other tendrils to promote the new Nazification project.)

>>2773096
People like you are why we can’t succeed

>>2773088
Non-existing problem



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Did stalin fuck up in poland in 1920?
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>>2773569
>galapagos gfhj bhhu juik ljuik lijk gfth

Idfk, i dont speak Polish. Get a language with functioning syllables.

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Materialist eggsplaination?



 

It's because of their own system this is the case too. It helps that Luigi was an attractive man from a privileged background, but he never even went to trial for that to matter. He isn't some business tycoon too dangerous to lose, he didn't hire the best lawyers, femcels aren't strapping bombs to themselves in protest for Chad although that'd be hilarious.

No, the charges were dropped because by the very nature of the bourgeois court systems, there's nothing worth doing. He's too public a figure now, and it would be a shit show the entire time and completely unravel the arbitrary and selective enforcement of contradictory laws over 300 years of documentation of court interpretation. Whatever judge would touch it, would easily be countered by another judge, and all the same it would be impossible to wrangle a jury that's cooperative in just giving him the plain guilty verdict they'd so want. Out of the four charges, the only ones that have stuck are the stalking ones against Brian Thompson and that's nothing. That's baby shit misdemeanors. I've been accused of stalking before.

You won't hear about his civil case and even than that might not even happen. If anything at all happens to Luigi it'll be a harmless fine. The lesson here is if you go to kill someone, make sure the whole world is watching. Which is why the cointelpro fags tell you "fedposting". They want you scared, when really they're the ones who are scared. Their entire system relies on your cooperation and why would you cooperate when you do not benefit? That's retarded.

Deny the allegations and facts not conducive to your wants
Defend the terrorists and other nay doers that upset others
Depose everyone ever whose ever worked a job. Fuck subservient wagies.
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>>2771765
Why is it always the flagposter/tripfags that keep bringing up /isg/ crap outside of /isg/ i random threads?

>>2771740
What are you saying?

Inter-bourgeoisie conflict

>>2771764
>So Maupin was full of shit

Tyler Robinson will walk a free man again



 

Fuck this guy. I’m tired of seeing liberals and even “principled” leftists like Jacobin Mag prop him up as the greatest thing to happen to American leftism, like he’s sone kind of modern-Day William Z Foster.

In reality, Mamdani is a total fraud. He’s pandered to Zionists even before taking office. Then after taking office he’s sucked up to Chabad-Lubavitcher which is a satanic racist Jewish supremacist org with ties to the Russian mafia and Zionist entity. Why? He’s even thrown his own wife under the bus for working with Palestinian liberation activist Susan Abdulhawa. I guess he thinks kosher feelings outweigh Palestinian lives. He hasn’t done anything he’s promised in making NYC a cheaper and easier place to live. And yet delusional leftists still love and support him.

If Mamdani was truly principled he’d make it illegal to be a Zio in NYC. Semd police to monitor all synagogues for promoting Zionism. Track donations to the IOF from Jewish orgs. Fully divest NYC from the Zionist entity and all companies that do business with the Zionist entity. Get ICE to deport anyone with Zionist entity citizenship ( I hear there are a lot of them in Brooklyn and Queens). Ban AIPAC and all other pro-Zionist groups. Shut down businesses like Eichler’s which routinely sell Zionist products.

Mamdani ran on the basis of defying the Zionist Lobby so he needs to keep his promises.
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>>2773305
You don't need to ban Chabad you just punish them for calling for genocide in Palestine.

>>2773310
Again, any attempt to do that would fail miserably, because Chabad has First Amendment rights. The KKK is allowed to call for Black folks to be mass-deported to Africa for the same reason.

Also, if you know anything about pro-Israel groups you'd know they rarely ever overtly call for Palestinian genocide. Most of these groups simply talk about how much they love Israel and talk of the Palestinians is nothing but an afterthought. If you're looking for ways to "ban Zionism" that are Constitutionally sound you'll have to do a lot of string-pulling.

>>2762517
I don't think that's the only reason. It can be useful and also something people care about. A lot of things don't have a single reason.

>>2773321
When AIPAC is smart (and sometimes they're not), they don't even talk about Israel or Palestinians at all, they will run ads to back up candidates they like in primaries talking about other things which are completely unrelated to the Middle East. They defeated some progressives by saying they weren't loyal to Biden to try and spoil their reputation among normie Dems. The whole Israel lobby screwed up with Mamdani by being, like, he hates the Jews and he's a jihadi Muslim blah blah. Voters didn't buy it.

>>2773333
That's my point. On what basis could a politician actually succeed in banning AIPAC? As much as I hate them, nothing AIPAC is doing is illegal. Plus, you can't even register them as foreign agents since AIPAC is an American-based group, not an Israeli one even if they serve Israel's interests. An equivalent would be like trying to ban a tankie group for simply supporting the DPRK's interests.

>>2773341
>>2773333
The only way you could possibly defeat AIPAC is by getting money out of politics. Of course that's impossible under capitalism.



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Alright bros, I've joined the RCA. I know they're Trotskyist but I just cannot stand being in an org with morons that haven't read any theory. Should I immediately leave then kill myself? Did I make the right choice?

I have been apprehensive joining any org, I for one refuse to join the DSA even if they have the SMC. I don't respect the PSL for being COINTELPRO'd to death, I don't respect the CIACP or CPUSA, so what choice do I really have

Anyone on here have any info on them, if they're a good group or not? Did I make a mistake?
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Im on a bus to a RCI meeting rn kek

>>2770451
We've all been there.
Don't wait until they've drained you for all you're worth. Real communist parties are out there and they don't function like pyramid schemes.
Dont let them convince you to read books by Trotsky and Trotskyists before you've read key works of Marx, Engels and Lenin.
Good luck.

>>2770475
The most egregious aspect of the RCI and other sects like it is the use of the slate system to elect the central committee. Essentially the outgoing CC will recommend a "slate" to replace them and the congress either votes for or against it. congress could propose their own slate, but individuals do not run for central committee, and congress can't vote against individual members. additionally rank and file members cannot simply run to be a delegate. You have to be nominated by branch leadership and they select based on who's at the "highest political level", and the membership either approves or votes down their selection. this is basically all taken from the 1920s stalinist degeneration of the bolshevik party which was imported around the world through the comintern.

>>2773191
I struggle to envision how this is democratic at all, theyre just choosing people who will perpetuate their echo chambers

>>2773196
it basically is. It's a distortion of democratic centralism from the post 1917 era. Sects that use it often justify it as implementing what the bolsheviks did, but the bolsheviks never used it prior to the civil war era degeneration and buraucratization of the party. This isn't unique to RCI at all. Socialist alternative uses it along with other sects



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