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how can low birthrates and immigration both be a problem? it would seem to me that one ought to compensate for the other. if you're worried about the population of your country decreasing then you should be happy that new people are coming in to bolster your numbers. if you are worried about the population being too high, then you should be happy that people aren't having as many babies.

and let's face it, neither of these things are issues that anyone can really do anything about. you can't make millions of people have sex and produce babies more often and you can't stop millions of people from entering a country. human behavior at this scale is basically like the weather, you can't control it or do anything about it and there's no sense in whining about it, all you can really do is just accept it and adapt to it.
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>>2866537

nobody cares, this isn't a thread about child porn, go rationalize your depraved narcissistic sexual compulsions somewhere else.

>>2866611
>depraved
Bourgeois moralist detected. Also, you’ve got to admit that they gave good arguments unlike the moralfags here who responded the way a dog with rabies would to water.

>>2864122
In socialist countries, the challenge lies in maintaining a monopoly on foreign trade and countering agents of imperialist capitalism; this requires preparing immigrant workers and intellectuals—a task where planners need only track collective inputs and outputs, which is not difficult. You overlooked the necessity of maintaining the dictatorship of the proletariat. Furthermore, countries like the Soviet Union maintained ties with communist parties elsewhere; these parties would often facilitate the arrival of immigrants for ideological reasons or provide education to foreign workers and intellectuals, who would then assist communists in their home countries while helping to maintain diplomatic influence.

You live in a capitalist country; the Marxist stance—absent a dictatorship of the proletariat or a socialized economy that abolishes private property, social classes, and the anarchy of production—is to refuse to tolerate the bourgeois state gaining repressive power over workers and communists. This includes opposing strict border controls that authorities might use as a pretext to arrest communists. This principle is intrinsic to the theory of scientific socialism (as articulated by Marx, Engels, and Lenin) regarding the proletariat’s seizure of power and the construction of "dual power" to prepare for a revolutionary situation.

The police, the standing army, the bourgeois state bureaucracy, and intelligence agencies all pose obstacles to communists organizing popular workers' militias; opposition to these institutions is therefore logical. If the bourgeois state imposes penalties, the focus must be on punishing capitalists and compensating the most intensely exploited workers—potentially even through the forced, radical unionization of immigrant workers. Crucially, these workers' rights must be defended, and any criminal penalties or fines must be levied against the capitalists for non-compliance, ensuring they retain no control over either immigrant or native workers.

You have yet to provide a single citation showing that the theory of scientific socialism allows for an exception where communists should empower the bourgeois state to use repression against immigrants. The quotes I posted say the opposite.

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>>2863878
>You are comparing apples to oranges here. The law distinguishes between the possession of CSAM and the possession of images depicting torture.

Yes, because of double standards. What’s new under the sun?

>The harm identified by psychologists is not just the act of taking the photo but the inability of the victim to ever fully move past the event because the evidence of their exploitation is always accessible to strangers.


Again, more metaphysical bullshit that can equally apply to the pictures of Abu Ghraib tortured detainees and Phan Thi Kim Phuc as a girl (a.k.a., Napalm girl). Again, it’s just a bullshit excuse made up by the pigs to justify state repression. Why do you support the pigs on this endeavour?

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So say a Marxist-Leninist economy has all of the stuff important to the state nationalized and operating under scientific planning, it tries to give the basic needs of life like employment and housing to everyone as possible, but there's additionally a private sector for commodity circulation because trying to micromanage every small business to the smallest detail is silly in general. The private sector is heavily regulated to prevent them from subverting the rest of society, and also taxed to help pay for the rest of society.

So what exactly is bad about this generally speaking? Especially on a neoliberal Earth where the international elite, outside of china, can flee and go anywhere and has no accountability? The strategy of dengist economics has produced the same results that people like Mao and Stalin wanted out of their countries like mass industrialization, electrification, and prosperity but at the same time holding their own societal elites accountable.
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>>2867041 (me)
Just to spell it out to all leftcoms, hardcore maoists, trots, and the like, the good old austere but good china could be easily destroyed by USA. A comparably more powerful state could be dealt with, the USSR, at the time, even though USA is only partially responsible. This is an inevitability, only a matter of time. China or any socialist dtate had to introduct into critical production chains, gain some sort of leverage, and eventually defeat, or face extinction. We can talk about hundreds of years, thousands, but it would eventually happen by logic.

So, if dengism is the only way, then good, but the question is, how to overturn succdem and steer to communism after USA defeated? But this is already an abstract question, an almost metaphysical one, because it has nothing to do with present conditions.

If there was an alternative, then which one? But this is itself another abstract metaphysical question, an exercise of alternative history without any importance for present day praxis, pure speculation.

The only true moove is to patiently and ascetically study chinas history and present structure, as well as of capitalism in general, UK and USA imperialism, the history of the USSR… Study patiently everything and forget about this sort of useless speculative bullshit.

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>>2867046
you are completely cucked, so cucked you can't even stand with your own people you'll instead hail the coming of the new empire and then do nothing about it when they end up raping the world just like the rest of the faggots who end up being the dominant super power of the world. will it be better in the short term? sure but american supremacy was an upgrade from the european dominion over asia as well and that doesn't mean its something worth defending

>>2867053
I didn't position myself in favor, I only said that the question was not dengism good or bad, but the other ones, and then the other ones end up being too abstract, which in turn leads always to the same answer, the only good answer:

To deeply and ascetically undertake a lifelong study of the concrete conditions, both global and local in your area of possible and optimal pragmatic action

It was "the most brutal exploitation of the landed peasantry ever." It destroyed unions and automation in the west, especially America, but it was "good" for the Chinese revolutionary aristocracy so it is upheld by their larping, wannabe elite, middle class communist counterparts. Cool!

>>2865242
Bernsteinite babble



 

Real question, how many of you adhere neatly to one ideology? I think everybody vibes with a particular tendency, but personally I'm totally happy to steal good ideas from across ideological lines. I definitely think there's an optimal way to achieve a leftist society as well, however if someone implements another plan to get us there that doesn't fuck others over, I don't see myself being too upset so long as we get where we're going.

Just asking because I see people engage in never-ending theory battles online, as well as discounting the contributions of leftists of other tendencies. It seems so strange to me, like instead of acknowledging the good work others have done, while maintaining your own critiques for how to do it better, it seems more in vogue to treat other ideologies as fakes designed to waste your time and meet them with hostility.

I mean obviously this is the internet, people are constantly cranked up to 11, trolling, or genuinely suffering from untreated mental illness. But it seems to me that we're seeing a massive resurgence in leftist thought and action, so I figured people would exercise a little discipline to make the most of the moment. Tbf, this could all be crazy people, bots, government psyops, and algorithmic manipulation. I've just seen people I genuinely appreciate engage in the same shit, so there has to be some element that's real.
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Ideology is fake and gay. I think people get overly attached to ideological labels as a sublimated form of identity politics, where the label isn't simply an identity but also has an added significance where simply believing in something means you are morally correct and have inherently understood some truth of the world that will make it better. the word for this is "idealism" and it almost invariably describes ideological tendencies in the 21st century.

rigid ideological adherence makes sense when there's an actually historic movement like the Bolsheviks or the CCP, because then you need to get your ass in line and make compromises to work within the opportunities available to you in order to make history and win real power. but the left in the west at least has nothing like that (except until recently with the DSA which many of you predictably denounce on ideological lines). in such conditions what is needed is an analysis of the unique conditions in one's country and what opportunities are available, which is largely something I don't see the left bringing to the table. who are our major living theorists these days? Zizek? please. Badiou? meh. the best we had was probably Mark Fisher but he's been dead for almost a decade now and was exemplary of the transcendental miserbalism that afflicts the 21st century left.

if we want communism to become relevant again we need to engage in serious self-crit over ideological thinking that keeps the left mostly relegated to a kind of pseudo-cult of intellectual misfits fetishizing revolutions that existed in vastly different conditions from those of today. that's my ideology.

>>2865619
You are an idiot.

>>2862436
ok based also I think people are too concerned with being "dogmatic" when in reality the only thing that can keep afloat in the most difficult moments of the struggle is unwavering trust in your core beliefs
>If you wish, I can provide you with some Marxist texts to read so that you may immunize yourself against the opportunism fostered by the hegemony of liberal ideas in today's capitalism.
pls go ahead

>>2865619
hello ᴉuᴉlossnW

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>>2858713

>listen to morons


Perhaps I should be clearer. I am saying to listen to literally everyone. Everyone. Even those who we would line up against a wall. This is for the sole purpose of learning how to mind-fuck them even better because this is the age of psychological warfare and we should be doing that more often.

I'm not wrong here, am I?



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>responsible for the success of the bourgeois revolutions
>responsible for the success of socialist revolutions
Why are peasants so fucking based??

>nooo it was because of the intellectuals!

These eggheads would have done SHIT on their own.
>nooo the bourgeois revolution succeeded because of the bourgeoise!
They are like Americans who swoop in in the last minute to reap the rewards.
>nooo the socialist revolution succeeded because of the proletarians!
Same mistake.

I think the lord’s right to the first night simply does something to a uygha. You can’t get cucked for this long without turning into King Von.
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>>2866025
I'm reading this rn and Perry Anderson says the feudal mode of production was already in a general crisis prior to the arrival of the black death

>>2866034
we will be again soon enough if anyone survives the next couple decades

There were three reasons the bourgeoisie gained power and the peasantry didn't even make the top ten.
>Number 3: Double account bookkeeping.
>Number 2: The check, bill & the letter of exchange enabling settlement cycles.
>Number 1: The manufacture and proliferation of the firearm and training manuals which enabled autonomous zones inside cities (aka burgers) 🍔🍔🍔 They even talk about this in the Communist Manifesto lol!

>>2865938
Because they were the most numerous?

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>I think the lord’s right to the first night simply does something to a uygha.

that shit was mostly fake thoughbeit and used by lords as propaganda towards one another

only girugamesh in the epic did it, and he was confronted for it by giga enkidu



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If you don't talk about OIL you think the recent wars are about "security" or "nationalism" or "anti imperialism" then you are a fed who defends the US oil industry by distracting from what's actually going on.

So let's talk OIL. World oil consumption is now 103 mbd (million barrels/day). This number is expected to peak in 2030 and depending on decarbonization scenarios, it could decline to between 50 mbd and 80 mbd by 2050.

Now take a good look at the oil production by countries. And look at the reserves.

What does all this tell you? It tells us that oil revenues and profits are going to tank in the coming 20 years. And oil is one of the last major profit centers in capitalism.

It's not a coincidence that major oil producers like Iran, Russia, USA, Gulf, Venezuela are all the major players in recent geopolitical upheavals. This is not a world war. This is a war specifically between oil producers trying to expand marketshare in a world of shrinking oil demand and profits.

Now there's another crucial aspect to consider here - that is the cost of production. The Gulf can produce oil cheaper than anywhere else in the world, while US and Venezuela oil needs prices to remain above $60 to be profitable.

Now can you connect the dots? In a shrinking oil world, it's the Gulf/Iran that will win out at the end by being the last remaining oil producing area that can produce profitable at very low prices. The US/Venezuela will have to sell at near cost to have any marketshare, and that's assuming they're still able to have any marketshare at all.

But the US and Gulf are mostly allies so instead of fighting each other, they've decided to neutralize the Iranian and Russian oil industry. This achieves the common benefit of both sides maintaining their marketshare while keeping prices high which benefits both US/Venezuela and Gulf.
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>>2866762
Makes no sense, the US is lowering their carbon output themselves.

>>2866798
That's until 2024

>>2866933
they'll keep doing it despite the current administration's attempt to boost oil production. there's an inherent tension between "Oil is expensive enough to be profitable" and "oil is cheap enough people will use it instead of renewables". if prices are too low, producers disappear. if prices are too high, consumers disappear. the only way to thread that needle is outright cash subsidies for oil. (which they get to some extent, but nowhere near enough to balance things out.)

if you set the US aside for one moment, the most remarkable thing in the world is the gigantic explosion in solar capacity in the developing world. the US can afford to be dumb, but when poor countries want electricity they don't even bother with conventional power plants anymore. (even then, the vast majority of newly added electrical capacity in the US today is solar + storage, and the single biggest solar producer is red-state Texas, and solar generated more power than coal for the first time in 2026 despite Trump also being pro-coal.)

>>2866950
Yes, oil is essentially cooked, that's the point. It will decrease in both volume sold, price sold and above all, profit made. That's why all the recent wars are involving oil producers. They're all fighting for disappearing marketshare and profits.

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Hi I am sigmort I am a left chud which means I am a chud if a chud were left




I molest neo liberals,I goon to goth girls, I think about the Vietnam war, and the roman empire

DIE AMERIKKKAN TOTAL CANADIAN VICTORY



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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/25/robert-jenrick-questions-about-5m-donation-nigel-farage-legitimate

Robert Jenrick says questions about £5m donation to Farage are legitimate

<Robert Jenrick has said it is “legitimate” for the media to ask questions about Nigel Farage’s £5m personal donation from a cryptocurrency billionaire, just days after the Reform UK leader told an interviewer it was “none of your business”.
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>>2866755
I just said. I would say it is killing random members of the public in number so as to instill general terror among a population that it could happen to them too.

>The police investigation into the death of Ann Widdecombe is examining whether a leftwing or single-issue cause may lie behind her killing, the Guardian has learned.
Oh no.

>>2866818
Farage sacrificed her to Moloch to avoid the embarrassment of losing his seat to Count Binface

We need a new thread




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What do you think of Great Forehead? I think they are a petit-bourgeois author and an intellectual trailblazer of fascism. Thoughts?

The body is not too short or empty.



 

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Okay fascist

>>2865428
the most racist guy you know and his asian wife

>>2866271
If your pot isn’t boiling after 15 minutes either you didn’t turn it on or the stove doesn’t work

If Palestinians aren’t getting killed that means you’re next, you can’t turn off the machine, you just have to point it away from you and yours

>>2866230
Didn't say that but if it got to that point violence will occur anyway. You even said to avoid joining DSA of all things because of fear of violence. You are the type to tell MLK he is an uppity negro for daring to protest



 

/leftypol/'s most ignored general is back

Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades: Study
https://ground.news/article/earth-is-now-heating-up-twice-as-fast-as-in-previous-decades-study_63acf6

Humanity heating planet faster than ever before, study finds
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/mar/06/humanity-heating-planet-faster-than-ever-before-study-finds

Microplastics found in 90% of prostate cancer tumors, at much higher levels than healthy tissues, study reveals
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/02/260225001250.htm


Was War with Iran Sparked by Water?
https://erickeyser.substack.com/p/was-war-with-iran-sparked-by-water?r=1r05cx&triedRedirect=true&_src_ref=old.reddit.com

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>>2862772
There are two moronic extremes, the "we're all headed toward death/a Mad Max world" and the "nothing's going to happen" camp.

I have some sympathy for the former because I'm from a region that's been hit hard by climate change. I understand where that feeling comes from. but I do agree with you that so much pointless death and suffering could be avoided if we adapted to the changing conditions.

The problem is that with the exception of China, very few governments have the political will to make those changes. They're content with maintaining the current system, at least until some major disaster comes along and ends up killing a lot of people.

>>2862772
>artifical meat
that…that industry is currently failing…

>>2863173
The problem is that it's currently not hype enough for venture capital and getting road blocks from governments getting lobbied by the cattle industry. It needs a lot of investment and research particularly to produce big steel tanks and make it economical even though the technology has already been worked out which is why it's still at least a decade away. So for now it's a rich consumer fad and niche product that's only allowed in a handful of country which means the market won't grow just yet.

>>2863179
which is a problematic issue because Idk if we do have a decade. Also even if we do, it might take longer than a decade. And it would also take time to maximize production in a way that replaces meat.
Theres also the other issue where the cattle industry pressure politicians to fund different alt solutions. Not exactly a great time we live in

>Lake Powell reaching critically low elevation levels, nearing 'dead power pool,' experts say
give me alfalfa or give me death



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