/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

15 years in the can, not one fucking peep

Houdini deleted his "solidarity is a buzzword" thread after the people who were dumb enough to give him money rightly got mad at him LOL

>>2770674
dont worry leftypol always remembers.
i remember those late-night incel posts.

>>2770674
You just made me think of that Revolutionary Blackout guy who is now an ACP orbiter (or something) complaining about No Kings because nobody gave money to his food bank charity scam a few years ago.

>>2770325
Because otherwise a majority Palestinian Israel will be in control of them

>>2770352
The Samson option is still a risk in this scenario.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

>>2770374
They are stupid enough to nuke themselves yes, but that would the require new settlers and settlements, and nobody will move to a nuked city.

>>2770376
The point of the Samson option is to act as a deterrent. But Israel might be more inclined to actually do mutually assured destruction. Of course, this is assuming spite overrides self preservation.

>>2752124
I don't know about end of the decade but I could see within the next 20 years.
#5 is absolutely true though. Israelis have no loyalty to the actual land, because they don't have real roots and have ties to other countries. If they fear for their lives the ones who can leave will leave.

La France est le dernier bastion du socialisme en Europe, et même si c'est pas glorieux et très minoritaire ça reste quand même encourageant

>>2768743
Long vie à Camarade Macron ?

>>2768743
Chairman Von Der leyen

any of you with a subscription to mediapart wanna share this article?
https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/international/060226/l-industrie-alimentaire-mondiale-finance-la-guerre-au-soudan

j'aime Trotsky

>>2764326
If you're too lazy to read, then I'll leave you with a quote from Lenin about what imperialist capitalism is:

<But very brief definitions, although convenient, for they sum up the main points, are nevertheless inadequate, since we have to deduce from them some especially important features of the phenomenon that has to be defined. And so, without forgetting the conditional and relative value of all definitions in general, which can never embrace all the concatenations of a phenomenon in its full development, we must give a definition of imperialism that will include the following five of its basic features:

<(1) the concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life; (2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation, on the basis of this “finance capital,” of a financial oligarchy; (3) the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities acquires exceptional importance; (4) the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among themselves and (5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completed. Imperialism is capitalism at that stage of development at which the dominance of monopolies and finance capital is established; in which the export of capital has acquired pronounced importance; in which the division of the world among the international trusts has begun, in which the division of all territories of the globe among the biggest capitalist powers has been completed.

<Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, 1916, VII. Imperialism as a Special Stage of capitalism.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ch07.htm

Proletarian internationalism is a duty, no matter what you complain about, and all bourgeois states will be overthrown for the supremacy of the proletariat, no matter your opinion or your outrage.

>>2765362
I am actually starting to see some of your points about socialist culture et al. A lot of what passes for culture is actually foisted on us by Pedophilic Capitalists as PsyOps. It's inorganic and forced brain-washing, it's not actual real folk culture. Sort've what this person above >>2720829
if that makes sense. I am starting to see the light on some of these issues through reading and thought. But a lot of what I see is that especially for American Whites there's no pleasing Lefties. They just have this intrinsic Hate-Boner for us that is impossible to get around.
It reminds me of the very, very early days of the Alt-Right where everyone who wasn't significantly German enough in attitude couldn't be on their team. The Alt-Right eventually beat these people in the head and told them to shut the fuck up, because nursing a historionic revenge-fantasy was getting in the way of actually putting ideology into practice and accomplishing a goal.
The Left really doesn't seem to have that figured out and it is honestly one Hell of a fucking hill to get over for me.
Frankly I don't think no matter what I do I'm ever going to be decent enough for anyone in any of these circles and I'm not exactly trying to jump into direct association with anything, anyway.
Honestly I don't think I all-the-way agree with everything in Leftism anymore than I did with everything in the Right-wing. I think many people in the Left, just certain real-life issues fly right the fuck over their heads.
These people probably think Zhukov should've been never allowed to be in authority within the Red Army because one time at some point in his life he fought for the White Russians and the Tsars before that. Utter brain-dead wing-cuck thinking that's never going to create anything.

>>2770061
if you want to know about the abolition of the volk, i would suggest alain de benoist's "beyond human rights" (2011) which explores the legal creation of the abstract "individual". The universal reign of human rights comes in 1789 with the revolutionary "Declaration…" which is concurrent with nationalism, an absolutist construct. Volkdom and nationalism are thus also at odds, as I explain here:
>>2761062
"National Anarchism" as a reactionary movement also sees that the concept of individuality is harmful to the order of communities, and thus, a community's collective rights should have primacy (in modern jurisprudence, there is no such thing as "collective" rights of peoples, but only of individuals). So in each case, we see how law is the instrument of political action. Marx also sees that the individual is a construction of social, not natural relations; namely, the division of labour. Marx further attributes individuality to the modern wage worker, since their economic relations are based upon voluntary contraction. So then, individualism progresses as capitalism progresses, which by 1848, Marx had claimed, had already destroyed traditional custom and the institution of the family (with original reference to Thomas Carlyle's "cash nexus"). Thus, it is sufficient to claim that money as a universal abstraction, is the source of destabilisation - Aristotle calls barter "natural" and money "unnatural". The Bible calls money the "mark of the beast", and the love of money "the root of all evil".

>>2770136
Thanks for the book reccommendation. What's that flag you've got there?
I am something of a voluntaryist probably still. I'm no against collectives, but they have to be built I believe on something tangible and not forced from the top-down.
But either way, I like your takes. Thanks!

>>2770191
its the national anarchist flag:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National-anarchism
alain de benoist is also known as one of the pioneers of the "european new right" starting in the 70s, and he is the basic teacher of alexander dugin, as dugin writes in the introduction to the "fourth political theory" (2009). benoist is also known for defending a traditional and occidental form of direct democracy against "representative" government or monarchy. what is "liberal" to him is therefore confused between the democratic, since liberalism presupposes representation, and thus oligarchic guardianship over the popular democracy. theories of "true" democracy are always contentious, of course (we must also remember that universal suffrage is a 20th century concept and never existed before this, since not all citizens were enfranchised as part of the "demos").

>>2766745
We used to build things.

>>2766745
Why would they need to focus an entire plan towards that? Are tou implying they perhaps, outsourced?

>>2766700
China is not the cheapest, not by any stretch

>>2766267
yes in many ways monopolization has already done a lot of work for socialists. If you nationalized the tope fortune 500 companies youd basically have everything already ready to run a planned socialist economy

>>2766267
>The temporal development of capitalism consistently produces results that resemble socialism, but without the equality
well (scientific, Marx-Lenin derived) socialism isn't about equality per se, but about winning the bulk of the class struggle (I say bulk because class struggle actually continues under Socialism, according to Lenin) and establishing a dictatorship of the proletariat that will eventually lead to a withering away of the state. It does not purport to solve, for instance, idpol struggles, or even to treat the ex-bourgeoisie and workers as equals. Under the Bolsheviks for example there was a mixture of punishment and pragmatism. By punishment I simply mean that ex-bourgeoisie and clergy, often very elderly, were made to do manual labor that they had no skill in whatsoever because they had never done it in their entire lives. But on other occasions highly educated bourgeois specialists were given collegial seats on soviet government councils because their knowledge was essential to planning the economy or winning the civil war. So even among the ex-bourgeoisie there was unequal treatment. Some got a much better deal than others.

What socialism does purport to do is to socialize what has not already been socialized. Because under capitalism, so much has already been socialized in service of capital. I actually read People's Republic Of Wal Mart right after reading Lenin's Imperialism for the first time and you'd be surprised at the amount of overlaps. Mainly they both stress the need to nationalize monopolies instead of taking the ultimately pointless approach of breaking them up only for them to merge back together after a few decades. Where Lenin differs from that book however is he stresses this process of nationalization can only take place AFTER a violent revolution, while PRWM is a book in a more social democratic tradition, which seems to suggest that reformists under the current system can nationalize these monopolies.

>>2747173
>Is the Covid vaccine really as dangerous as people online are saying?


no, retard

>Is the Covid vaccine really as dangerous as people online are saying?
Probably not, I've had no issue with it other than being one of those annoying jabs that I always have mild reactions too.

Mi completely ass-pulled take is that, while I'm sure the vaccines had plenty of corner cutting,profit seeking problems as anything done in liberalism. The focus on antivax IMO was probably a lightning-rod (red herring?) to redirect the discontent with the neoliberal management of covid, into a culture war battle inoffensive to liberal politics.

Worked wonders. Get every retard left of Trump talking about "horse paste" and suddenly no leftoids are left to critique "the largest upwards transfer of wealth since…" and so on. It all becomes about following the dumbest people you know, to have the dumbest arguments possible and "own" them in social media.


Oxfam report documents “explosion of inequality” during pandemic
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/01/17/mufg-j17.html

US billionaires 'have received $1.1tn windfall in Covid pandemic'

oops, ate one link
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/26/us-billionaires-have-received-11tn-windfall-in-covid-pandemic

I got the Chinese vaccine because I wanted a traditional vaccine with a dead virus and not the MRNA stuff. I was counted as "unvaxxed" in my country and basically barred from public life.

So, it was a political decision, not a medical one. So you got a relatively untested vaccine, for political reasons, and that should raise all alarm bells - no matter if it was dangerous or not as this >>2747180 anon said. I know plenty of people who got dead sick after they got vaxxed (never got COVID), and I know people who got dead sick because of COVID. Governments won't disclose all the data, so I guess we'll never know.

>>2769696
All vaccines are "relatively" untested compared to the most tested vaccines, and if we'd waited 50+ years for more testing there wouldn't be much point in making one anyway. The existence of trade offs is not a conspiracy.

>>2768886
The Long March 10, which will be China's moon rocket will use liquid oxygen wnd RP-1 which is basically refined kerosene.

Iran responded to trump now

>>2768903
RP-1 is literally less emittant and less toxic than hydrazine and even common car gasoline.

>>2768393
Its crazy if FDR was a little healthier to fight for it, hellman Truman would not be president and President Henry Wallace would lead a much better path

What if they get stranted in space?

Here I have produced a compilation of ancient and medieval economic theory (360 BCE - 1377 CE)
Included in the collection is:
(i) Xenophon - Economist (360 BCE)
(ii) Xenophon - Revenues (355 BCE)
(iii) Aristotle - Rhetoric, Book I, Chapters VI-VII (350 BCE)
(iv) Aristotle - Ethics, Book V, Chapter V (340 BCE)
(v) Aristotle - Politics, Book I (330 BCE)
(vi) Pseudo-Aristotle - Economics, Books I-II (320 BCE)
(vii) Augustine of Hippo - City of God, Book XI, Chapter XVI (426 CE)
(viii) Thomas Aquinas - A Letter on Credit Sales and Usury (1262 CE)
(ix) Thomas Aquinas - Summa Theologica, II-II, Q.77-78 (1274 CE)
(x) Giles of Lessinus - De Usuris (1278 CE)
(xi) Nicholas Oresme - De Moneta (1360 CE)
(xii) Ibn Khaldun - Muaqaddimah, Chapter V (1377 CE)

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>>2731155
based. make audiobooks with elevenlabs and put it in torrents and youtube the way dessalines does

>>2768189
this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/@dessalines6388/playlists

Modern Monetary Theory only works in a country that has strong military and currency hegemony. otherwise you just cause inflation AND you can't outsource the consequences by making other people hold reserves of your depreciating currency

Final Edition of Antoine Montchretien's "Treatise on Political Economy" (1615)

>>2767836
Great thread I applaud your efforts

Revisionist slop, reactionaries larping as Marxists

>>2769417
As opposed to who? Every Hoxhaist organization in Africa is responsible for ethnic cleansing and CIA sponsored disfunction

>>2769436
Well the next Revolutionary among us of course… Our mods favorite - Leftsoc flagfag: >>2769382

Yooo mods woke up! >>2769471
leftypol.org has in fact not been seized by the US State Dept. as of 2026-04-06!

Der Marxismus und der auf ihm fußende historische Materialismus reduzieren Geographie und Ethnographie der verschiedenen Völker auf die einfache und bequeme Zweiteilung in Proletariat und Bürgertum. Der Bürgerliche ist 'bourgeois', d. h. der Feind. Der Marxismus ächtet die Klasse der Bürger und schafft einen Zustand permanenter Feindschaft zwischen Proletariern und Bürgerlichen.

>>2768833

>Der Marxismus ächtet die Klasse der Bürger und schafft einen Zustand permanenter Feindschaft zwischen Proletariern und Bürgerlichen.

Genau, das ist ja auch das Ziel.

>Geographie und Ethnographie der verschiedenen Völker
Wenn man Rassismus einfach ein bisschen hübscher und akademischer klingen lassen will, lmao.

>>2768883
Maschallah

>>2768833
Sehr schön.

>>2768833
Sieg heil, Kamerad!