/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2868724
>I am quoting Marx directly
The point isn't that you are quoting Marx somewhere. You are not quoting Marx in your formula, nor is your formula a paraphrase of Marx.
>And I add that LP is labour in potential
Well duh. Labor power, since it is a potential, cannot be a concrete actually happening activity, which is what you were saying in your formula, contra Marx. Do you want to modify the formula?

>>2870056
>You are not quoting Marx in your formula
Yes I am. Marx:
<all labour is, speaking physiologically, an expenditure of human labour power
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm
Me:
<Labour-Power = Concrete + Abstract Labour
Where is the contradiction?

There is more wrong with your post: You claim exchange value to be simply the quantity of value. But Marx distinguishes values and exchange values as giving different ratios between products in the third volume of Capital. Exchange value is the distorted measuring stick of value that people perceive in the capitalist market economy. Value itself is not directly observed by the market participants.
>the longer one works, the greater the value of a commodity, but the more productive [intense] the labour, the less the value per commodity.
You take terms like "productivity" and pair these terms with specific zoom levels of the economy, unlike Marx. You project this assumption while you over-generalize from misinterpreted text snippets.
>a greater product is created with the power-loom, or what Marx describes as double the product, or half the value
It is only half the value because in this specific scenario Marx assumes the advanced production technique to be already the most common method to be found if one traces the origin of this or that unit of the product. The value of the product goes down because it is a macro-level change. Consider this in contrast: While an improvement in production technique is still limited to a particular site that only produces a small fraction of the quantity of the product in question, it is (for now) a micro-level change and as such constitutes an increase in value output at that site.

>>2863063 marx never ever used the words "labor theory of value" anywhere in all 3 volumes of capital to describe his theory of value nor does he put it up against "subjective theory of value." this is a construction of debatebros in the 21st century. marx's theory of value contains both subjective and objective elements. the subjective element is called use value. an object has use value if enough humans want it to justify manufacturing it. this is also related to demand. the objective element is called exchange value. an object has exchange value if it requires labor time to bring to market. this includes raw materials and natural resources. even an apple which falls from a tree has to be picked up and carried to a market place. this is also related to supply. if something has both use value (a rate of demand determined by widespread human desires or needs) and exchange value (a rate of supply determined by average labor time), and is created for the purpose of being sold, it is a commodity. If it is lacking one or another, it is not a commodity. This is crucial to know because marx's theory of value is not about random things like the mona lisa, or things which nobody wants like mud pies. It is about commodities. Another important thing is price versus value. Price deviates from value according to non-production factors: Currency hegemony, Currency devaluation, Scarcity, monopoly, monopsony, government expropriation, theft, war etc. Value on the other hand is only looking at the factors of production. It is not trying to say anything about the final market price. So when Marx says that the value of a commodity is its socially necessary labor time, he is not talking about the price. He is only pointing out the tug of war between profit and wages which occurs in the production process, and how that results in class conflict and class struggle between the bourgeoisie and proletariat, since the bourgeoisie own the means of production, and it is in the bourgeoisie's interests to lower wages and increase profit, not just for their own personal consumption of mansions and yachts, but also so that they have more money with which to expand production, and buy more means of production, and buy more labor power, and buy more raw materials.

How would that even be possible?

>>2880211
should have put a jew patrol sticker on their car: the officers would have handed over their service pistols.

>>2880211
there are those cases where burgers impersonate cops alll the time but this is the first i've heard of impersonating a chinese officer

📎 David Elliott shit sheet.docx

The debate you never knew you never gave a shit about: Australian affiliates of the American Communist Party scum (diagonalist MAGA grifters) responds to White Australia third-positionialists.

https://australiafirstparty.net/an-open-letter-to-australian-marxist-leninists/
https://eurekainitiative.org/2026/05/11/the-impotence-of-modern-third-positionism/

The first one is weird - a few legitimate concerns with a wafty side of swiss cheese, you know, dumb arguments full of holes like that workers "cannot materially influence" foreign powers - look at South Africa, whiteboi. And, you know, weapon supply chains.
Seriously:
>Australian Nationalism, as I understand and advocate it, is not an import
Your entire "nation" is an import! Jews have more claim to Europe than you do to this land.

But ultimately, the EI response is decent. So much more could be said; Nothing more needs to be said.

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>>2686252
Showing my love for video posters :)

>>2881896
I saw a single CPC member at May Day at my city. Idk if you live in BC or tornoto theres probably a reason but where im from not really

>>2881896
I would say so. You won't be storming any winter palaces but frankly it's as good as any Western communist party is gonna get for the foreseeable future.

is there a commie party in alberta
the cpc is dead here

>>2882000
The rcp in Alberta

>>2882338
Why is the Rcp so active in tornoto and alberta

>>2852975
They demobilized. The peace process however was a farce, so many, being targets disarmed in the government camps, folded into ELN, FARC-EP, and various drug gang. Leads to some schizophrenia, coppied from one FARC-EP group turned drug gang:
<The criminal organisation describes itself as ideologically centrist and makes it clear that it does not subscribe to left-wing or right-wing doctrines, adding that “Marxist or fascist theories are not accepted within our organisation”. It also states that it accepts “all types of fighters, regardless of their background or combat experience”, provided they are not “enemies of the state”
A big part of the offensives we've been seeing by the ELN are apparently because of this influx of manpower and so on.
This could have gone into /QTDDTOT/ to be fair.

>>2852975
>Are/were they just drug traffickers and gangsters, or a real political movement?
both to different degrees at different points subject to internal and external influences

>>2853039
>They demobilized. The peace process however was a farce
nice one bro

Around the 2000s and 2010s, most of these old holdouts died off or surrounded, the same thing that happened with the IRA in the 1980s and 1990s, mostly due to better surveillance and third-world nations developing strike teams with COIN training.

>>2882191
The IRA didn’t die, they won their war and became the biggest political force on NI

>>2881290

The ubiquitous surveillance and enforcement apparatus makes revolutionary criminality impossible. Bakunin never accounted for AI and Flock cameras.

bumping this based thread

>>2881890
The state isnt omnipotent. There qill always be blindspots.

>>2882112
Where

>>2882181
nice try fbi

but yes clearly revolution is more difficult than ever and will continue to get more difficult and is probably already impossible anyway

why do humans worship their own rulers?

>>2881484
Self-domestication.

>>2881422
this is true but the retards on this board have no original thoughts and they will get mad at you

>>2881998
My good thoughts aren't original, and my original thoughts aren't good. Sad!

>>2882109
I'm just going to interject here: lol.

Twitterfags make some good edits i have to admit

Secretive US court meant to deport alleged terrorists hears first case
The hearing, before the Alien Terrorist Removal Court, was open to the public and centered on Nazira Haji Zada, a 47-year-old lawful ​permanent resident accused of supporting Islamic State and helping conceal a failed Election Day 2024 mass shooting ​plot. Prosecutors say much of the evidence against the Texas woman cannot be publicly disclosed.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/first-case-secretive-us-court-meant-deport-alleged-terrorists-2026-07-30/

US to make visa bond requirements permanent, affecting mostly African countries
The program requires holders of passports from the affected countries to pay the bond to be interviewed for business and tourist visas — known as B1 and B2 visas — to travel to the United States. The bond is refunded if the visa application is denied or, if granted, if the person adheres to the visa terms. The Trump administration rolled out the program last August to crack down on visa overstays and as part of its broader efforts to curtail illegal migration. The government estimates that arresting and deporting visitors who have overstayed their visa costs about $18,000 per person.
https://apnews.com/article/visa-bonds-permanent-us-state-department-travelers-ca7e5a540309d7cafad47ed1520b9c68

Children face higher threat of US deportation as legal support deal expires
The expiring contract paid about 100 legal groups across the country to provide legal services to about 24,000 unaccompanied minors. The contract allowed the groups to enter government-funded shelters as part of their representation. It was unclear what would happen after the contract expires, or if they would still be allowed to access their young clients.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/31/children-face-higher-threat-of-us-deportation-as-legal-support-deal-expires
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Brazil: Solidary Campaign for Venezuelan People Affected by the Recent Earthquake
The Solidarity Group with the Venezuelan People launched a fundraising campaign organized in Dois Vizinhos, Paraná. They are mobilizing to gather donations for Venezuelan people affected by the recent earthquake. Starting in July, volunteers are going door to door collecting supplies, such as non-perishable food, clothing, medicines, hygiene products, and other basic essentials. The campaign is rooted in a broader support effort: organizers say the group was formed to help Venezuelan families who came to the municipality to work, and who later faced difficulties, especially around housing and the costs of everyday life. With limited assistance after the initial period of employment, families often end up sharing small spaces and relying heavily on people’s solidarity.
https://redherald.org/2026/07/29/brazil-solidary-campaign-for-venezuelan-people-affected-by-the-recent-earthquake/

China’s Upsurging Strike Trend
China is still the world’s worker’s strike capital. This fact is not always visible or perceived as such. The government of Xi Jinping, much to the linking of the capitalists, closes the siege against worker’s strikes with severity. Nevertheless, behind a facade of a unified, high-tech global powerhouse, this nation grapples with deep-rooted social unrest. Authorities frequently try to sweep these recurring conflicts under the rug, but undeniable reality makes them impossible to hide. The class struggle in China over recent decades has developed in the context of the country’s astonishing cycles of economic growth. In the first decade of the 2000s, rural struggles emerged prominently amid significant labor migration to export-oriented cities. Small farmers and rural workers clashed with local governments over the expropriation of their land, the advance of real estate development, and the rise of U.S.-style agribusiness. In the cities, from 2004 to 2008, strike movements blended the distinct characteristics of the Rust Belt in the North (where the former large-scale danwei system saw workers fighting layoffs and the restructuring of state-owned enterprises) and the Solar Belt in the South (where migrant rural workers demanded an enPost too long. Click here to view the full text.