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This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

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>Paul Cockshott

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>>2689809
looks kind of useless since you already know what the underlying behavior is. a sinusodial model would be enough

Somebody asked on 4chan the other day whether communist could prove they could do superior planning by proving they could complete a public project on time.
That got me wondering. There is talk about how cybernetic planning could forecast demand. However there is no talk about public projects.
How could the state forecast sonething like how long itd take the chipfab being built in the us for example?

does someone have the new farjoun and machover digitally? it's quite expensive as a physical copy.

>>2722642
it would help if you specified which book exactly. he's HLPtGE

here's a meme for all control theory enjoyers ITT



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> ban counter-revolution
> ban pedophile doctors
> create perfect society
> westoids can’t debate you so they bomb you and lie about you

They can’t name one thing he did wrong that isn’t western propaganda to this day
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>>2720972
>muh tankies
fucking kys retard

>>2720989
Please tell me this is a joke
>>2720992
Listen I’m sorry but what other word can you use to describe Pol Pot defenders?!?!

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based thread

>>2720917
>>2698808
I remember they showed that photo in that documentary. That's the Pol Pot clique and the Vietnamese sympathizer clique leadership

What would've happened if Pol Pot never provoked Vietnam and didn't get invaded?



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>Previous Thread
>>2720547

<Glowie Magnet edition


<Latest News:

>Nothing is happening because Nikita Bier is censoring Iran's strikes
>Nothing can be certain because psyops
>Kurds launched attached
>US Navy ships restocking
>IAF and USAF restocking
>Iran getting bombed and we are allowed to see because Nikita Bier wants us to see it
>Azerbaijan Airport got droned. We don't know who did it (wink wink)
>Some "Sunni Marxist" chatgpt glowie tried to get us to support anti-iran opposition

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>>2722596
There's a decent book related to the subject matter called "Ten myths about israel"

>>2722580
don't forget how israelis treat ethiopian jews >>2722584

they're so blatantly trying to rewrite history

>>2721649
Ritual abuse is real. Satanic Panic was a discrediting of real events. Hypnosis is real. Cults are real and old. All of these things can still fit into the nature of the owning class while being materially minded. This woman is clearly in a mentally damaged state but that doesn't negate her story.

>>2722558
>literal Saar



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I keep seeing this bait posted:

>>2719727
>Marx was a zionist who praised the US conquest of Mexico and tried to move to Texas

>>2689654
>I can and I will, Marx was a proto zionist, his writings on America confirm it, he even tried to become a settler in Texas

>>2689640
>Marx would have been a zionist too had he lived to see 1948 and especially 1967, he’s dead and his opinions don’t matter

>>2684654
>Fuck marx and fuck marxists, all pieces of shit, all Zionists outside of Palestine

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>>2722311
regardless he was still dismissed as a Jew in his day and treated with contempt because of it. Jenny's parents cut her off cause she married a "Jew"

>>2722313
did you read the rest of the post I was replying to. he didn't mean it the way you mean it.
he said
>Marx is a jew
followed by:
> and this board is founded on jewish exceptionalism and supremacism
obvious fucking /pol/yp nonsense.

>>2722409
David Ben Gurion is from YOUR political tradition and there’s no amount of whitewashing that can cover it

>>2722438
i denounce david ben gurion. explain what your """political tradition""" is so we can play the same game with you.

>>2722443
Anti politics



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Curious what people's thoughts on Liberia are.

It was founded by freed slaves, but there must have been people there. Was there the same kind of contradiction that we see in Palestine with the Israeli colonizers? Or in the US/Canada with Indigenous? Or was it peaceful
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>>2677927
Why would amerikkkans not behave like the klu klux klan animals that they are?

>>2678269
>>2678269
Pics are oozing of Amerikkkanism
Lumpen-hooligan culture

>>2678261
>>2678269

>there is nothing good about Liberia. It is argueably worse than India


>more stable than Liberia, because Somalia is at least controlled by islamists


Muslim detected.

>>2696348
It's still a de-facto resource colony for firestone rubber and other extraction companies though. There's no sovreignty of any credible nature and the infrastructure of the state constrains the development of its people preventing any kind of industrialization

>>2678251
American leaders rape babies even though they KNOW it doesn't cure AIDS



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>>2717447
🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>John Henry Edition


💀List of Deaths in ICE Detention💀
https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

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>>2722170
the freak that tried to get into a fight with the teamsters leader during a hearing. bodes well

>>2722170
Back to sucking corey lewandowski’s cock for a living it would seem! smell you later bitch

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>>2721994
>>2721999
NTA but I always have to look these things up and I never remember afterwards. seems confusing.

https://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/v/o.htm#voluntarism

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>>2721956
>what flavor of eschatology is that?
Marxism



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>>2709844
>Absolutely illegal under international law of course
>of course
Why are libs like this?

>>2709999
>all the major news sources that peddled blatant lies about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction could not possibly be peddling Pissrael’s lies
Makes you think

>TFW a mass-deletion of a glowie spammer was so big that it unbumplocked a thread at limit

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>>2721628
Correction THREE threads

Why was this thread replaced before it was (full)?



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The USA is what Israel pretends to be
The PRC is what USA pretends to be
DPRK is what the PRC pretends to be
Iran is what the DPRK pretends to be
Israel is what Iran pretends to be
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>>2717579
>The PRC is what USA pretends to be
idk about the other statements but this is a trvke. The USA pretends to be the leader of the free world. the PRC is actually the leader of the free world.

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>>2717613
They're all trukes. All that I speak is the truke.

>>2717632
you should go to the doctor for all that brain swelling. it looks like you brain cracked through your skull. there are probably tiny bits of skull fragments in your brain. Not good! your skin will have stretch marks on your scalp…

i'm so sick and tired of the photoshop
show me something natural
like skull with the stretch marks

>>2721513
In the age of the unnatural, you will only get unnatural



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<'Always Remember to Say Thank You' edition

>Previous Thread

>>2719703

<Latest News:

>US Navy Sub sank IRGC ship in International Waters (across state lines!!!)
>Strikes are escalating
>Zionist entity getting a taste of its own poison
>Trump threatening spain for refusing to bow down to the golden calf, ahem dome
>Thots and scammers running from dubai
>Russia will continue cucking to the great satan for its national interests of course :)
>Yahya Sinwar (PBUH) confirmed mastermind of the GREAT UNCUCKING
https://xcancel.com/ripplebrain/status/2028844716356223057#m

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>>2721406

It's a nothingburger

>>2721103
Qatar is a nation of Golems

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>>2721477
Persona Management Software.
Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Agency: Department of the Air Force
Office: Air Mobility Command
Location: 6th Contracting Squadron
Sources Sought
Jun 22, 2010
1:42 pm
0001- Online Persona Management Service. 50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user.
Software will allow 10 personas per user, replete with background , history, supporting details, and cyber presences that are technically, culturally and geographacilly consistent. Individual applications will enable an operator to exercise a number of different online persons from the same workstation and without fear of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries. Personas must be able to appear to originate in nearly any part of the world and can interact through conventional online services and social media platforms. The service includes a user friendly application environment to maximize the user's situational awareness by displaying real-time local information.
0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN). 1 each
VPN provides the ability for users to daily and automatically obtain randomly selected IP addresses through which they can access the internet. The daily rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise during observation of likely or targeted web sites or services, while hiding the existence of the operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing, blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes of users from outside the organization. This traffic blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability. Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal
0003- Static IP Address Management. 50 each
Licence protects the identity of government agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations to manage their persistent online personas by assigning static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals can perform static impersonations, which allow them to look like the same person over time. Also allows organizations that frequent same site/service often to easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary users as opposed to one organization. Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal
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>>2721367
> actually 7D Chess
You may not believe me, but the “action through inaction” thing is a very Chinese notion. It’s not even that complicated if you know anything about them culturally. It goes back to Confucianism and Taoism.



 

Argentinian unions plan general strike over new labour laws
Argentina’s main union federation, the Confederation of General Workers (CGT), will hold an executive council meeting on Monday to formalise a call for the strike over the country’s far-right President Javier Milei’s proposals. The government is also seeking to secure lower-house approval before March 1, when President Milei is set to open the 2026 ordinary legislative session.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/argentinian-unions-plan-general-strike-over-new-labour-laws

Families Protest Mass Trials in El Salvador
Nearly 100 people—mostly family members of those arrested—mobilized against collective court hearings enabled by a 2023 penal reform approved by the Legislative Assembly, dominated by the ruling party. The amendment allows large groups of alleged gang members to be prosecuted together in hearings that can remain open-ended.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/families-protest-mass-trials-in-el-salvador/

Minimum Wage Increase in Colombia: Petro Called for Mobilization
The president of Colombia, Gustavo Petro, yesterday mounted a strong defense of his decree from December of last year approving a 23.7% increase in the minimum wage for 2026, which was provisionally suspended last week by the Council of State. As the country follows the legal process that will determine whether the measure — considered historic by the Government — will stand, the president not only reaffirmed his position but also issued an explicit call for popular mobilization this Thursday, Feb. 19, in public squares in several Colombian cities, in what he described as the defense of the “vital minimum wage.”
https://colombiaone.com/2026/02/16/colombia-minimum-wage-increase-petro-called-mobilization/
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>The activist, whose name the government has given only as Quentin, had been present to help protect members of the anti-immigration feminist association Nemesis,
hahah. allez vous faire foutre les fachos

San Francisco Teachers’ Strike Ends with Major Gains
San Francisco teachers will return to work on Wednesday following the end of their strike, securing important wins like sanctuary protections for immigrant students and higher pay. The strike created a sense of solidarity and empowerment that can extend to unions and social movements in the Bay Area and beyond.
https://www.leftvoice.org/san-francisco-teachers-strike-ends-with-major-gains/

Pelosi's new campaign: Boost Newsom for 2028
Pelosi has one of the strongest donor networks in Democratic politics. She's been a key validator for Newsom as he's emerged on the national stage and become one of President Trump's most visible foes. "She's a Gavin fan-girl and she doesn't crush on many people," one former Pelosi aide said. "I will say this: She's hardly ever wrong. When she says she sees something, it's a real thing." Former Pelosi aides told Axios the former speaker was always eager to publicly vouch for Newsom whenever asked, and that she's privately expressed admiration for how he has navigated Trump with a combination of defiance and charm.
https://www.axios.com/2026/02/15/pelosis-new-campaign-boost-newsom-for-2028
https://archive.ph/IhoiQ

Trump donor who criticized offshoring to close Ohio plant and move work to China
Paulson made a significant portion of his wealth by betting against the housing market that crashed in 2008. A longtime Trump donor, he served on Trump’s economic policy team during his first presidential campaign and raised $50.5m for the president at his Palm Beach home in April 2024. He was in the running to serve as secretary of treasury during Trump’s second term but withdrew because of “complex financial obligations”.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/feb/16/john-paulson-conn-selmer-ohio-factory-china-trump

Agreements that allow local police to work with ICE skyrPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

The End of the Future
The United States has long since become a developed country undergoing underdevelopment. Life expectancy is falling. People sleeping on park benches, in subway cars, or by the side of the road are on the rise. Whole towns and small cities have died along with the industries that once gave them life. Highways, bridges, tunnels, and electrical grids — indeed, the entire material infrastructure of public life — are scandalously rotted. Public services are run down, closed, or auctioned off to private enterprises. Child labor, once thought extinct, an industrial medievalism of the sweatshop era, now shows up in nearly every sector of the economy from industrial laundries and auto-parts plants to fast-food eateries and construction sites. Adult jobs, once thought secure, got converted into various forms of precarious or temporary employment. Two-wage-earner families now earn what one-wage-earner families used to. Pensions guaranteeing a retirement income have either been replaced by ones tied to the fickle oscillations of the stock market or not replaced at all. The social safety net, a metaphorical exaggeration even in its best days, has become a Dickensian embarrassment. Rural America is despoiled terrain, abandoned or the site of superexploitation by logistics and distribution networks. “Deaths of despair” — through drug and alcohol addiction, suicide — have become epidemic, in cities and in the countryside. Rights once taken for granted — the right to vote, the right to join a union — are now contested or, for all practical purposes, denied. In the words of famed management consultant Peter Drucker, “No class in history has ever risen faster than the blue-collar worker. And no class in history has ever fallen faster.” All within less than a century. Back in the days of tsarist Russia, during the late nineteenth century, a revolutionary movement known as the Narodniks (the word meant “going to the people”) tried to arouse the Russian peasantry to overthrow the tsar. It didn’t catch on. One activist of that era mourned that “history goes too slow.” We might say about our own moment that history has gone in reverse. This in turn has generated a peculiar political response both on the Right, where it might be expected, but also on the Left, where it is strikingly strange. Call it “the politics of restoration.”
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Tybna

Why won't pelosi just fucking die already

>>2693910
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>Why won't pelosi just fucking die



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