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Is it possible to be a Christian and be a communist I know Huey Newton was a Christian and a communist, but do you think it’s possible to still be one? I know there’s a lot of Muslim communist like haz
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>>2640816
Short answer, no.

Dialectical materialism asserts that all that exists is matter and the material, and that if there somehow is a world beyond this one, it most certainly has had zero influence on it throughout the duration of known history. This precludes, to my knowledge, all mainstream religions, because they're built upon the notion of dualism; of seperate material and spiritual worlds.

You can, however, be someone who actively helps to achieve communism, even while erroring in your theory. But make no mistake, it is in fact an error.

>I know there’s a lot of Muslim communist like haz

The more I study theory, and the more theory I study, the more I dislike about Haz.

I've come to find that most intellectuals go through a phase of ideological windowshopping and eclecticism. They read a large quantity of works by a large quantity of authors at a fairly superficial level, and then combine the bits and pieces that they think sound the nicest into an incoherent mess. Speaking from experience, when I was in my teens, I jammed together aspects of Mao, Nietzsche, and Rothbard, none of which I properly understood or even had the tools to properly understand, into this weird quasi-anarchism that I had no path to actually achieving or maintaining. It's a way of thinking that gradually dissolves as you learn more about history and have a reference point for what ideology looks like in practice. My beliefs were gradually chipped away at until the only things left over were the things that aligned with dialectical materialism.

Haz is perpetually stuck at the midpoint between ideology soup and proper Marxism. He is kind of sort of an ML, but on a very superficial level; there's virtually zero understanding of the actual scientific component of Marxism, and as a result, he ends up committing extremely blatant revisionism constantly.

>>2640816
>Huey Newton was a Christian
I have never heard of him making a single comment on religion so I doubt that. Althusser was a very devout Roman Catholic.

>>2640816
No, Islam is the only socialist-approved religion.

>>2646761
So your long answer is "yes, but I disagree with them."

>>2647779
Kind of, not really.

In the context of Marxism, revisionism isn't just when you come to a different conclusion than previous Marxists. If that were the case, pretty much every form of Marxism that currently exists would be considered revisionist, because the Marxian ideologies dominant today are virtually unrecognizable from what was being done 50 years ago. No, revisionism is specifically when you reject the core axioms that unify the various different forms of Marxian thought, creating something that can no longer properly be referred to as Marxism.

One of those core axioms is dialectical materialism. If you read enough Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, etc, it becomes clear that dialectical materialism doesn't just mean the existence of a material world, but the absence of an ideal, or spiritual, one. If you want to really stretch it, you could say that it permits a kind of limited Deism, but the architects of Marxism generally upheld atheism and metaphysical nihilism. Indeed, despite what Hazites will tell you, the Soviet Union treated religion with begrudging tolerance at best. As such, "religious communism" is, by all counts, revisionist, which is to say, not Marxist, and as such, not communist.

We cannot abide revisionism, because it throws out the basic intellectual tools that we use for scientific analysis. It's paramount to being an engineer and eschewing standard algebra for a system that states that 1 x 1 = 2. True, you might be able to luck your way into results that work on occasion, but ultimately you're building off a foundation of nonsense.



 

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
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Seminar on Immortal Leadership Exploits of Peerlessly Great Men Held



There took place a seminar for deeply grasping the immortal leadership exploits of President Kim Il Sung, Chairman Kim Jong Il and the respected Comrade Kim Jong Un, the peerlessly great men, recorded in the history of the Juche-oriented youth movement, at the Central Youth Hall on January 12.

Present at the seminar were Kim Jong Sun, department director of the Central Committee of the Workers’ Party of Korea, officials of the youth league, officials concerned, teachers and students of Kumsong University of Politics, journalists and editors of the media and youth and students in Pyongyang.

The seminar heard papers dealing with the immortal exploits of the peerlessly great men who regarded the youth affairs as the most important state affair and trained the new generations to be reliable successors to the revolutionary cause of Juche during their revolutionary guidance.

Speakers said that the 80-year-long history of the Socialist Patriotic Youth League is a proud one shining with the peerlessly great men’s idea of attaching importance to the youth and their wise leadership.

They said that the outstanding leadership of the Workers’ Party of Korea is the fundamental factor in successfully resolving the youth issue and the issue of successors to the revolution and building the youth power without an equal in the world.

The 80-year-long history of the youth league is the one of loyalty and patriotism of the young Korean people who have taken the lead in upholding the revolutionary cause of Juche, they noted.
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Are there even any North Koreans who use this site?

>>2646636
The stupidity of people on this website never cease to amaze me.

>>2646636
I am spiritually north Korean

>>2646354
So what's the material take on Norks subscribing to great man theory and deifying their kings?



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Do multipoltards realize that two of their main positions are straight up contradictory?

The idea that:
>American empire must collapse to achieve communism.
And
>American proletarians have no revolutionary potential.
Being somewhat compatible is impossible.

How does America collapses and then a continuation of that geographical pole of economic influence doesn't appear again? What exactly is the way that the continental mass that was once called the United States of America doesn't become, by virtue of their natural resources, industrial machinery and population, an economic powerhouse again?

I personally think that the way to stop this would be for a socialist America to happen, that way, an imperial, capitalist nation won't take its place, but in order for that to happen we would need a proletariat revolution to take its place which automatically implies that the American working class is revolutionary.
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>>2647948
Yes, they establish the classic colonial pattern of reorienting the colonial economy of raw material production to fuel industry in the metropole. So they make Indian farmers grow cheap cotton which they turn into textiles that they then force the Indians to buy, thereby fuelling British growth and preventing the Indian economy from developing any secondary sectors.

>>2647958
And since there is a difference in value between raw goods and manufactured goods this leads to trade deficit or whatever? And leads to inflation of indian currency? Because they have to pay with money or something? Is that how it works?

>>2646748
Is it really so hard for you people to actually understand what people actually believe before letting these posts dribble out of your brains?
>multipolarism
>American proletarians have no revolutionary potential.
Where exactly has the World Anti-Imperialist Platform or any other multipolarist org/party (PSUV, ACP, KPRF, etc.) stated this? You appear to be conflating the positions of multipolarism with that of the now-defunct Leading Light Communist Organization and Maoist Third-Worldism, two completely opposed tendencies. As such your "analysis" is incoherent nonsense arguing against someone who doesn't exist. Get off the internet.

>>2647943
>Don't forget that imperialism also requires an enormous expenditure of blood and treasure to maintain
Yes. But if the wealth extracted exceeds the investment, most societies will pay the price. Forms of ideological revisionism would arise in this case to justify the deal. Furthermore, the unequal economic relations of NIDL can be maintained in certain cases without the direct need for boots on the ground.

>>2647594
chuds and libs will look at that image and think it means anticommunists were exterminated by communists all over the world LOL



 

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>>2647832
In the next 10 years at this rate

>>2647871
theory is just vibes but more verbose

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>Man is training crow to attack maga hats
Crows vs Vultures.

American: Collectivism le bad
Trve?

>>2647525
I guarantee that hardcore MAGA will find ways to believe that trump is not dead.



 

Any Kojève-pilled anons here? Should I read him? Anything interesting about him? Was he truly a KGB spy? Is his philosophy worthwhile or just pseud ramblings?
Edoookayte me
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>>2646310
>considered the US to be the true achievement of communism, given that everyone was more or less opulent there according to him.
So a typical westoid imperialist-socialist, then.
Just enslave the whole world bro and you can have socialism for the bourgeoisie (WOW, YOU DON'T SAY?)

peak soccdem thought

>>2647739
I think the statement was provocative but he did have a somewhat weird relation to Marxist thought.

>>2647744
Socialism is socialized production + socialized, surplus, mere sozialized surplus isn't socialism

So it doesn't work either way

>>2646749
Anon you are misinterpreting Fukuyama either deliberately or accidentally. Fukuyama did not say that desire for recognition is detached from material relations; what he argued is that *once* material deprivation is fulfilled thymos will become the centrepoint of conflict. He did not discount the fact that a lot of struggle for dignity is also accompanied by struggle for economic rights and social; where he disagreed with is with the traditional (vulgar) Marxist distinction that class antagonism is the sole origin and motivation of desire for recognition, something which Marx himself denied! (And you cannot seriously believe in this, and then believe in imperialism at the same time. How do you explain struggle over dignity in the imperial core then? Especially at the interclass level? ). This also disguises a crucial fact; left unsaid in this disagreement is that you agreed with Fukuyama's framing of recognition between individuals, you simply believe that the Fukuyamaist conception of Zootopia-like legal recognition is hollow liberalism. Dugin would agree, but for a completely different reason

>>2647793
>what he argued is that *once* material deprivation is fulfilled thymos will become the centrepoint of conflict.
I know anon, this is why we were talking about Kojève, and not Fukuyama. For Kojève, recognition doesn't come "after" the material satisfaction, it exists all the time and is a core part of human life (in fact, it defines it)
Nonetheless, this is also a poor argument by Fukuyama. Derrida in Spectres of Marx talks about this : saying that market capitalism is the end of times because it satisfies material needs whilst millions die of hunger is a bit silly.

>thymos will become the centrepoint of conflict

That's also what Fukuyama gets wrong. Thymos isn't a thing per-se, it's something that exists as a medium to signify "this is injust/this is undignified" in relation to some structure or object. Thymos is inherently tied to the institutions. Ergo, if the material structure changes, then so does the recognition desires. I was actually surprised that this was the core of Fukuyama's argument, because it doesn't really contradicts marxism but rather ignores it. It ignores that material structure changes, which is the fundamental reason why people also change consciously (and thus have all kinds of perpetually different thymotic desires).

>where he disagreed with is with the traditional (vulgar) […]

I haven't read his book in a while but isn't his claim that marx was an economism that only focused on the material satisfaction ?

>left unsaid in this disagreement is that you agreed with Fukuyama's framing of recognition between individuals

I do, and I think that most marxists implicitly do. What causes the revolution isn't a necessary element, but the contingent expression of unsatisfied "thymos" and material conditions (which really englobe thymos anyway).



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>OH MY FUCKING GOD, I'M NGMI, MY BIDELTOID IS 17 INCHES, I WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN, I AM SUCH A LATESHIT HON BECAUSE I STARTED AT 17, AND I WAS FINE AT 15 BUT
>*slaps face*
>kyle: *sighs* alright, you know the drill, get on the bed
>wh-what?
>kyle: you know, your brain has a lot of really valuable natural resources, they're called "worms", ever heard of them?
>*takes off your clothes*
>kyle: you've been hoarding them all to yourself lately. don't you think they would be better of in the hands of my big seltzer?
>kyle: *kyle kaugh* you ready? i'm gonna invade you like you're venezuela!
>moral collapse
>"kyle, kyle, i love you!!!"
>*kisses forehead* kyle: you want my oil, alice? you wanna steal my oil?
>"kyle please, i wanna have your baby!!!!!!"
>kyle grunts out "hooouuungry!" as his oil gets stolen
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What the fuckstick am I reading?

I guarantee Kyle is into some extreme freaky femdom stuff, just look at him and look at the woman he married.

trans people were better off without internet access

>>2647634
Kinda true, most bullying comes from the internet



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>>2635431
Ah right. Capitalism is actually not at fault. Jews are just genetically predisposed to mass murder.



https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2025/000005_en
Euroeans please sign this it will only take 3 minutes max and will not hurt in any way, no matter what Germany does this can only benefit us

>>2637891
this but unironically



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How can you bd a leftist thsts agaisnt ai? Ai is the best thing that has happened to leftism since the great depression er. On the one hand its accelerationist on the other hand it actually makes workers democracy possible for the first time realistically.
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>>2615685
You deserve to lose your job and access to a wage and become de-proleterianized into a potentially homeless person or suffer from malnutrition? I think you should reconsider your choice of words here. Sure, it's more so that the worker deserves to not have to do the labor anymore, not that they "deserve to get replaced by a machine because there is nothing special about them". Sounds like you are speaking like a capitalist apologist, this is not a capitalist board.

>>2615684
>LLMs are replacing "real workers"
such as……………………………………………?

>>2615687
the petit bourgeois dont become homeless when losing their class status, they become proletarians lmao

>>2614504
there wasn't a recession in 2024. The economy was mostly fully recovered from covid

>>2556906
The reason they havent started mass automating white collar jobs yet is because it just hasnt gotten to the stage of being able to do that. Most company's proprietary AI copiolts are basically glorified email writers. I do hope it gets to that level though. the worst of the great depression had 20%+ unemployment rate. 20% of the population being structurally unemployed for an extended period of time today would be cause for mass unrest.

"AI" is a marketing scam



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🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Aux armes, citoyens ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
I noticed there is no thread for France related shit. So let this be one. French people deserve a safe space and guarantees for their continued existence on loser imageboards!
J'ai remarqué qu'il n'y a pas de thread dedié pour la France, alors que les salauds américains et anglais en ont des centaines. Français, ne succombez pas à l'impérialisme anglochiotte!

Subjets of Macronpiter, leave a post.
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>>2645058
Yeah I was thinking of reading the trilogy so that's good to hear
Finding actually leftist literature and not just 'pity the poor' is hard
>>2645010
That's sad, France's strength is in its cultural and intellectual patrimoine
Are they just too maoist to care now?

>>2645130
>too maoist
Too maoist would be an upgrade over the shitshow that the French left is
fucking retards who keep getting fucked by macron's neoliberalism but find solace in that they can get hundreds of thousands to chimp out in the streets. All these chimp outs of course always ends up in the victory of neoliberalism anyways. And they still shit on the heritage of the PCF of last century. The PCF had actual strategy which has real gains for the proletariat to show for. But the modern french left is enamoured by spectacle, not material gains. The modern french left is thoroughly americanised.

>>2645142
You probably didn't even read Vallès or you would complain about anarkiddies destroying Paris trying to ruin the great advances for the proletariat actual socialists like Adolphe Thiers did by setting up a great patriotic French republic.

Dédicace au camarade SMYERT EKONOMIKIYE, fidèle militant du PRCF et grand ami des tropiques
https://www.initiative-communiste.fr/articles/prcf/prendre-appui-sur-les-contradictions-du-camp-capitaliste-pour-resister-et-contre-attaquer-resolution-du-comite-central-du-prcf-11-janvier-2026/

Extrait pertinent: Humiliée publiquement par Trump, méprisée et démantelée par l’UE et par sa gouvernance allemande (cf. la trahison de l’agriculture française via l’adoption du traité UE/Mercosur),dévastée industriellement (délocalisations en cours d’Arcelor, Renault, Valéo, Verrerie d’Arc…), la France est, de plus en plus, le maillon faible du maillon faible euro-atlantique. Face à cette situation, nous, militants franchement communistes, mais aussi syndicalistes de classe et patriotes franchement républicains et antifascistes, portons une responsabilité nationale, voire internationale, pour tenter d’enrayer à temps la marche à la guerre d’anéantissement vers laquelle le capitalisme hyper-réactionnaire de notre époque précipite le monde tout en creusant chez nous le lit de la pire réaction. Stopper ce train fou est certes difficile, mais c’est encore possible ; en effet, notre peuple consent de moins en moins à la domination états-unienne illimitée sur le monde (cf. le rejet massif par les Français de l’enlèvement de Maduro) et à la casse sociale, démocratique et nationale tous azimuts dont la « construction » européenne exacerbée par la Macronie est le nom.

Dans ce contexte très sombre, le PRCF travaille à faire grandir une mobilisation populaire et unitaire très large pour la paix, la solidarité internationale, la souveraineté des peuples et le progrès social, en France, en Europe et dans le monde. Plus que jamais, combinons la lutte pour la reconstruction communiste française et internationale à l’effort pour faire émerger une Alternative rouge et tricolore axée sur le Frexit progressiste et pour unir les forces politiques, culturelles et sociales qui, à tous niveaux, voudront faire échec à la guerre mondiale, à la casse sociale, au saccage environnemental, à la fascisation politique et à l’asservissement des peuples souverains.

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>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


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>>2646898
pill that gives you ptsd

>>2646930
despite what you may state as your ancestry you're also American too at the end of the day

>>2646898
Imagine earning a living entirely by hawking pills labeled shit like "Make Your Body Great Again" that's just a proprietary mix of Kratom and Viagra.

>>2647000
nothing beats the trump phone and the freedom phone.
made in China.

>>2646910
Oh shit, it's joever for AmeriKKKa



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