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Why do liberal and labor zionists always praise david ben gurion and golda meir as "the good ones" and say that they wanted peaceful coexinstence? Is this true or it's propaganda?

>>2944792
They are full of shit if they think that. They killed hundreds of people, not pacifists at all.

>9000th about le zionists

That's anti-imperialism for you, ultra

Propaganda David-Ben Gurion wanted an Arab population within his Israel but he was fine with the expulsions of the Nakba. He also wanted to conquer all of the West Bank and said the failure to do so in 1948 was his greatest regret.

Essentially Zionism had always operated on the mentality that "there are millions of jews we won't need to displace the natives much because we will just outnumber them" but after the holocaust the maths then didn't add up so they had to adopt an explicit expulsionist position. The only group opposed to expulsion were the Marxist Mapam and the Communist Maki.

>>2944792
back in the good old days, before the israeli army was a bunch of russian goyim, and other goyim, with earring over there, and piercing over there, and tattoo under kippah, who make fun against hashem all day on the internet, and spit on the torah



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Unfortunately, I've seen quite a few people, particularly campists, argue that the Assad family was a better alternative to Ahmed al-Sharaa's administration, largely because the former maintained close relations with Russia and Iran and was seen as a bastion against American imperialism. Personally, as someone who opposes imperialism regardless of where it comes from, whether it's the West, the Middle East, Russia, or elsewhere. I find it rather tragic that these people seem to be missing the forest for the trees. They're so focused on the geopolitical allegiances of the Assad regime that they overlook how its policies and actions actually affected the Syrian people. Just because a government opposes American imperialism doesn't mean it can't engage in oppression or facilitate imperialism itself.

But going back to the main topic, I do consider Ahmed al-Sharaa a slightly better alternative to the Assad family, although that doesn't mean I'm giving his administration a free pass. While I'm not aware of any conclusive evidence that al-Sharaa personally ordered the massacres of ethnic and religious minorities, particularly Alawites and Druze, forces affiliated with his government have been implicated in these atrocities. There have also been serious concerns about the treatment of Kurds, particularly during the fighting between government forces and the SDF.

I understand that al-Sharaa doesn't necessarily have complete control over every armed faction operating under his government, especially given how fragmented Syria became during the civil war. However, that doesn't absolve his administration of responsibility for protecting civilians or holding those responsible for these atrocities accountable. I also think it's worth recognizing that Syria is emerging from decades of authoritarian rule under the Assad family, followed by more than a decade of civil war. I don't expect the country to become a functioning liberal democracy overnight, but I do think it's reasonable to expect its new leadership to genuinely commit to protecting minorities and allowing political dissent.

Regarding his domestic legislative initiatives, I think some of the changes introduced under his administration are worth acknowledging. For instance, his government established commissions to investigate crimes committed under the Assad regime and locate missing Syrians. In January 2026, al-Sharaa also issued a decree recognizing Kurdish cultural and linguistic riPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2945000
cool larp buddy

>>2945001
He smokes meth and sees any reply as encouragement. Just report him, and if you are going to reply preferably tell him to go live with his auntie and uncle in bell air.

Kurds should have actually dealt with arab tribalism. Al Jazeera can cry me a river

>>2944689
kys retard, I cant believe we have morons unironically spouting this glowtier shit here, as if the guy did anything but set up a fascist sunni supremacist weak state dictatorship while letting headchoppers militia run around slaughtering minorities

His country (or whatever it is lol) is a bombed out shithole with an army of glorified of Toyota trucks that larp while Israel prances around Southern Syria and continues funneling AD batteries and other emplacements in the Druze region. All he does is beg money from Europe, America, and even Russia after they bombed his people kek



 

https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/10/1168634

We have all been issued a license to kill the capitalists most responsible for climate change. Nothing else actually matters, and if we do not demonstrate the ability to use lethal force against those most responsible for the destruction of the biosphere then the global proletariat will never look to us for leadership. I don't want to debate the merits of "adventurism" versus "revolutionary violence" anymore. Billionaires are over consuming so they should be culled, and we should be the people who do the culling.
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>>2943991
many such cases

Stratospheric
Aerosol
Injection

I like it when it's hot outside

We're pretty much fixed for 1.8 c at least.

Embrace barbarism, socialism was but a feverdream of the 19th century.

>>2944981
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/sep/02/global-heating-warming-1-8c-best-case-scenario-un-united-nations-environment-programme-report

Reminder that 1.5 was the "we might be able to keep things going threshold" the idea that a global productive society can function like this is pure fantasy. The party is over



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Who objectively has more unchecked Authoritarian power within their own government:

The US president
The General Secretary of the CPC
The General Secretary of the CPSU
The Monarch of the United Kingdom

Because it feels to me like all the complaining about "authoritarianism" coming from constitutional bourgeois republics is insincere nonsense if you actually do a comparative analysis of these roles
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>>2944523
All sufficiently advanced societies are secretly ruled by their military, intelligence, and law enforcement services.

>>2944776
as opposed to primitive societies which are openly ruled by same.


>>2944588
trvke
>>2944533
pvke

UK monarch>CPSU>CPC>US presidency.



 

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>>2944898
I said suppress Japanese Communism, not the Japanese "Communist" Party. You seem kinda dumb. You had to substitute one for the other in your sneaky little critique. Burgers should get the fuck out of every country they occupy. If you don't agree, you are a burger bootlicker, simple as.

>>2944904
>How do bold text here? Keep having to use the caps.
triple apostrophe on either side of the text you wish to bold, must be on the same line

>>2944901
Does China want Japan to have an independent military? No? Then fuck off.
It is objectively good if Japan is subservient. Who knows what they'd do if they were let free, at least the Indo-Pacific Command are a bunch of competent bureaucrats well-educated in what imperialism is feasible for them, instead of absolute lunatics that would be let loose if the US left Japan.
When Japan threatened to invade China last year, it was these people who insisted that Japan calm their rhetoric down, the only time Japan in all of modern history hasn't been militarily attacking its neighbors has been this era under US subservience.

>>2944949
if, without US occupation, soy japanese nationalists would try to fight an unwinnable war against the chaddy republic of chadna, that would be very funny.



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Why are we so viscerally hated for always being right? Why does this not make more people rethink their political allegiances? Why does nobody want to learn from history except for us? Do they just have their heads so far up their asses that they think of predicting the future as witchcraft or something? Seeing the idiotic way normies behave time and time again is so utterly infuriating it almost makes me wish I was dumber.
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>>2943996
  1. because modern politics is fundamentally about identity via individual disposition and you threaten that identity. not identity in the sense of "idpol", but much deeper than that. libs, generally, have a weaker version of the leftist disposition (high openness, high agreeableness, mid-high neuroticism) however this is moderated by a need to feel sensible and moderate, hence they pursue this feeling even when it's clearly a tactical blunder. (e.g. if you actually want permanent Clintonism third-way compromise technocracy, you actually need to be even more extremely anti-MAGA than most progressives, but most instead keep trying to compromise because cracking down on the right is inimical to their self-image while sensible compromise is essential)
  2. the left isn't actually always right and often believes insane or stupid things, and to an outsider it's hard to unpack what is correct 5 minutes too soon and what is actually some crazy person being crazy. e.g. if we're honest and think electorally, for every DSA type with a great theory of electoral coalitions there's another person who thinks this time, THIS time the CPUSA is definitely going to be a goer, or that it's time to get a gun and start a protracted people's war. If you don't have a high enough resolution of people to your left, it'll be hard to disentangle them. (Even on /leftypol/ you'll get people who go "why are you analysing a bourgeois election at all?" as though merely using your brain for events that are happening anyway is counterrevolutionary, because they, too, are chasing a symbolic identity rather than "doing politics")
  3. of course, the right are doing this too and are the most insane and dangerous faction of politics today. low openness, low agreeableness, and neuroticism mediating how openly insane they are. for them, all of modern civilization is the enemy and the solution is random cruelty. the tragedy is that libertarians (high openness, low agreeableness, mid neuroticism) tend to go with the right because they enjoy the feeling of being selfish or justifying the unjustifiable more than they enjoy openness. they should be part of the lib coalition. some more principled ones are moving that way thanks to trump 2.0 making the naked, evil idiocy of the right clear, but others would rat
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>>2943996
>people hate me because im always right
Narcissism

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>>2943996
I know those feels homey

>return to thread missing half its posts and crossed out numbers
Damn. What'd I miss?

>>2943999
Class war is eternal it seems.



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Bangladesh garment factories disrupted as protests continue for third day
About 500 factories were temporarily shuttered after the protests began on Saturday. Thousands of workers have taken to the streets, facing tear gas and sound grenades from police. In an attempt to quell the demonstrations, Bangladesh formed a new wage board on Sunday to review the minimum wage for garment workers. Prime Minister Tarique Rahman, meanwhile, held an emergency meeting with his ministers and advisers. Workers are seeking a minimum monthly wage of 30,000 taka ($242), more than double the current wage of 12,500 taka ($101).
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/11/2/bangladesh-garment-factories-disrupted-as-protests-continue-for-third-day
https://archive.ph/knGLA

Milei's boom-and-bust economy sparks exodus from Buenos Aires
While investors including billionaire Peter Thiel plow money into oil and gas down south, lithium in the north and copper out west, those investments haven’t yet trickled down to the real economy in Buenos Aires and other metro areas that tend to determine presidential elections. Instead, job losses, soaring utility bills and indebted households solidify a feeling among middle class Argentines that the economic growth is evading them. Over 32,000 businesses have closed since he took office, bringing the total number of private-sector employers to the lowest level since 2007.
https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/economy/mileis-boom-and-bust-economy-sparks-exodus-from-buenos-aires.phtml
https://archive.ph/y2Ppl

Powerful Haitian gang leader writes UN seeking dialogue as clashes intensify
Wilson Joseph, best known as Lanmò Sanjou and leader of the 400 Mawozo gang, sent the letter on Monday, and the U.N. has received it, a source who wasn’t authorized to discuss the situation confirmed. The letter calls 400 Mawozo a “rebel group” and was sent from Plaine du Cul-de-Sac, where a group of four Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Aguada mayor refutes ACLU’s assertion regarding municipal police collaboration in ICE raids
Aguada Mayor Christian E. Cortés Feliciano on Wednesday refuted statements made by Fermín Arraiza, legal director of the local chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). In a press conference the previous day, Arraiza alleged that members of the Aguada Municipal Police had participated alongside U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents in the unlawful arrests of individuals with an undefined immigration status.
https://www.sanjuandailystar.com/post/aguada-mayor-refutes-aclu-s-assertion-regarding-municipal-police-collaboration-in-ice-raids

KFC and Taco Bell restaurants close across Puerto Rico as they seek new franchise partner
Puerto Rico’s first KFC restaurant opened in 1967, while Encanto Restaurants began operating Taco Bell in 1985, according to the company. Encanto Restaurants also operates Pizza Hut and IHOP restaurants in the U.S. territory. Overall, it operates 180 restaurants on the island and employs more than 3,000 people.
https://apnews.com/article/kfc-taco-bell-puerto-rico-close-encanto-yum-27380d9d90bffe9cc7def8f873b0a65c

ICE rapidly re-arresting immigrants released after winning court petitions
Increasing arrests and detentions have led to immigrants filing more than 91,000 habeas petitions as they seek to challenge their detentions, according to research by ProPublica. More petitions have been filed since 25 January than during the past three presidential administrations, including Trump’s first term, combined, the outlet found.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/nov/02/immigrants-released-after-court-petitions-ice-arrest

Ex-Chicago FBI chief says he was ousted over a failed protesters case, sues Justice Department
Douglas DePodesta, a 24-year veteran of the FBI, says in the suit against top Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Out of the EU, for a Socialist Austria! :Deputy Chairman of the Party of Labour of Austria
Even a quarter of a century after the last World Savings Day of the schilling era, nostalgia for Austria’s former currency remains widespread, as sociologist Klaus Kraemer explained to Austria’s public broadcaster ORF on Saturday. But this sentiment reflects more than nostalgic memories: it also expresses legitimate concerns about the economic future. And hardly without reason. The capitalist crisis, high inflation, rising rents, relentless attacks on the welfare state and years of declining wages have left their mark on people’s lives. On the contrary, what they once regarded as secure is being systematically dismantled, piece by piece, in the interests of capital. Neither a return to the schilling nor simply withdrawing from the European Union can resolve these problems. What is needed is the organized economic and political struggle of the working class against the dictatorship of the banks and corporations.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/11/out-of-eu-for-socialist-austria.html

Workers of the World, Invest: the corporate adventures of The Canary
2026 was not the first time the Canary experienced turmoil. It is a left project after all. Historically, it faced significant advertising revenue issues due to a boycott campaign organised by a group called Stop Funding Fake News. In 2022, it experienced an internal takeover by staff and was turned into a worker co-op. In the March 2025 text, the Canary Workers Coop describing the takeover as a “workers’ revolution”, shared some details of their investigation into the former Canary management. “Even by the standards of corporate capitalist criminals, the Canary finances and systems were a mess. Our latest set of official accounts were a veritable clusterfuck of irregularities.”, the workers said. Further, the workers describe the practice of the management paying themselves dividends and how this was beneficial to them in terms of easing their personal tax burden as well as a tool to hide the disparities between the regular worker pay and the pay of the management team. Sadly, the workers’ revolution at the Canary appears to be short-lived, for only a few months after the March 2025 text, the Canary quietly went back toPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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If you believe the world is in crisis, doesn't a crisis warrant radical response?
The main thing that bothers me about centrism, liberalism, or even soc-dem progressives, is that they seemingly agree that we are facing multiple compounding crises, but also don't want to rock the boat too much in trying to address them.

There even seems to be consensus now about "taxing the rich", but some sort of naive optimism that the system itself isn't the problem and that maybe the next Elon Musk will be a good guy who builds wells in Africa or something. It's not a coincidence that this network of Peter Theil, Palantir, Meta, exists and operates the way it does.

What is so scary about far left politics that keeps people in the center? For me it feels like a hestitancy to actually implement any real change or believe change is really possible, to quote Mark Fisher -"it is easier to imaging the end of the world than an end to capitalism".

People don't want to engage in revolutionary politics because it might mean things get worse, and people don't want to let go of the Starbucks and brunch,SNL, Taylor Swift normalcy that they are trying to maintain, but if you agree that the climate crisis exists then that's all going to burn away anyway. President AOC isn't going to stop it.

It reminds me of the early months of Covid, before it hit the US. "I'm more concerned about anti asian racism that the virus", "It's just a flu", remember it wasn't just the political right saying "it's just a flu" before it became officially a pandemic? That's the same place we are politically right now, but the lockdowns are coming.

Is there a point where electoralism fails for you? If republicans try something in 2028 is there a line where revolutionary politics becomes reasonable, or are you going to write to your elected representative about the gestapo?

I'm sympathetic to those who say revolution is untenable because of their obligations to their family or don't want to risk their own safety. I'm not sympathetic to people who "worry about extermism on both sides" while seemingly agreeing the climate is fucked.

Sorry if I think the french protests are much more effective than jumping up and down in an inflatable frog costume.

Lenin was based



 

It's insane how everything Marx said would happen is happening. The MOP is constantly being revolutionized, people are constantly being pushed out of their jobs, the rate of profit is constantly falling so they have to find new ways to squeeze the proles. The contradictions are intensifying. Young people are increasingly waking up to the scam that almost every aspect of life is. Some might be doomers, but I am feeling pretty optimistic with how Porky can't seem to help himself. They used to give us treats to calm us down, but ol' Pot Belly can't even be bothered to do that anymore
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Not everything. He detailed a useful framework to analyse human socio-economic systems, yes. And it is useful still today. The main one is determinism, but marxism (well, historical materialism) can be made indeterministic. Determinism was in vogue in Marx's time. It's like the geologists in the 19th using sediments to guess that the Earth must be older than the Bible said. And estimating around millions of years. After the discovery of radioactivity, we could learn that the Earth is actually much older, billions. So anthropology hasn't made the paradigm of Historical Materialism obsolete, it has updated it. There isn't a lot written cause many "marxists" aren't interested in political economy, just "politics" or "economy".

>>2944484
yeah tbqh I don't give a shit about economy

>>2944494
But economy isn't a science. Politics isn't either. The science is Political Economy.

>>2944461
>>2944472
You sound mad

>>2944505
yeah tbqh I don't give a shit about political economy either



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Have you heard about the Spainish protests? Do we have any espanolanonos who can elaborate?

Context: an ~80yo woman who was on a rental contract that she inherited from her parents had her house taken over by private equity, increased the rent by like 4x, then evicted her. The people successfully resisted it and it has now turned into a mass movement of the landless youth.
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Attempt made at similar public occupation in Porto, Portugal, but got beaten and so on.

>>2934110
I'm surprised that this has spread beyond Spain and Europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liFwE-PTqno

Will the train crash further revitalize the protest movement?

Leaked Audio. Riots last night.

>>2941403
It's mainly the right and the far right who are using this as an excuse to attack the government. I haven't heard or read of any mobilisation from the left related to this accident. Only from the far-right.

https://www.antena3.com/noticias/sociedad/cargas-policiales-varios-manifestantes-protestas-oscar-puente-madrid_202610286ae25fc8b55c427e2eb68418.html



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