/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

recent happenings in iran?

>>2715065
>If Cucktin was POTUS, there would have already been 200,000 US casualties in Venezuela and instead of dozens of top IR assassinations, he would be meeting the Ayatollah and talk about the "Spirit of Tehran" or something.
trvthnvke…

I wonder how those libs that thought the world was getting better feel now.
Looking at you steven pinker

>>2710932
>muh nation
*sharts*
>>2712677
The only leftists to support the Iraq war are the ML party of Iraq and Iran's Islamists

The Iraqi Communist Party was actually expelled from many international orgs but they're back to being wholesome 100 campists now

>>2714455
>Capital

You mean "Capital" as in Marx's book, or capital as in financial assets?

>>2722101
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NATURALMOTION ENDORPHIN??? I WAS ON THERE BACK IN THE 00S. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES???

>>2722314
i will say it's a fucking shame they discontinued that excellent software.

>>2722314
>WHAT ARE THE CHANCES???
Well consider that a lot of the endorphin wrestling videos were made by 420Chan /wooo/ users. 420Chan was the biggest site for wrestling discussion.

>>2722398
i was never on 420chan. but i knew ironman2pto and darkmatter who moderated the endorphin forums. ironman2pto was named christian fagg IRL and he sadly drowned on vacation with his family

>You cannot combat globalism with chauvinism, seclusion, nationalism.
true,but with a nuke you can

>>2682468
>>2721578
The Marxist position for bourgeois elections is not abstentionism nor voting for bourgeois parties that serve the domination of capitalist imperialism, but rather into organizing a distinct revolutionary party of the working class for proletarian class domination that is independent of the bourgeoisie. Using the election to count forces and demonstrate its program to the masses, even if its candidates have no chance of winning. Voting for communist candidates is a duty if you call yourself a communist, to develop experience in the class struggle and spread propaganda to the masses.

Now let's begin with three quotes from Marx and Engels on how communists should act in a bourgeois democratic election:

<Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled. The progress which the proletarian party will make by operating independently in this way is infinitely more important than the disadvantages resulting from the presence of a few reactionaries in the representative body.

<Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, 1850, "Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League"

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/communist-league/1850-ad1.htm

<The first great step of importance for every country newly entering into the movement is always the organisation of the workers as an independent political party, no matter how, so long as it is a distinct workers' party. And this step has been taken, far more rapidly than we had a right to hope, and that is the main thing. That the first programme of this pPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2722096
*Here is the correct link to the text “Letters: Marx-Engels Correspondence 1886”, Engels to Friedrich Adolph Sorge in Hoboken:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1886/letters/86_11_29.htm

>>2682468
At the upcoming Amerimutt elections, you need to vote democrat.
Liberal democracy promotes the lie that it can resolve its own issues by reforms, and the democrat party exemplifies this lie. When they return to power and nothing gets any better
for the average burger, the last veneer will vanish: no blaming trump, no blaming republicans, no blaming le bad man, only the system laid bare for all to see, Ezra Klein's "Abundance" as it really is.
>Liberal retard
Liberalism in its modern incarnation, the ideology of AI Abundance, trickle-down everything, EA smugness, is the real accelerationism.

Vote Democrat as ridiculous as it sounds.

If you vote for republican you will end up with a populace and media that sublates all the system's flaws on le Bad Man. Republicans will only be a scapegoat for America to continue its pedophilic imperialist existence, whereas Democrats will expose the flaws as intrinsic to the imperial capitalist system and collapse it.

>>2725875
>a presupposition is just a kind of proposition
I simply disagree, so we must abandon this issue. You see that a valid presupposition is true in the terms which it constitutes, but in my opinion, you fail to see how what is proposed is different from what is presupposed.
>you have to have propositions to formulate the law of identity.
Okay, so what are the primary propositions of logic?
>it's an absolute fact within an intentionally constructed practice of constrained signification.
Yes, which denotes the content of thinking, which as something bound to necessity, is a logical structure. Thus as I have written, the laws of thought are logical.
>reason's practical and historical apprehension of nature
Reason is not an object of history, it is the subject. If not, then the meaning of history is absolved.
>you haven't provided a definition
But this is the same trouble in Theaetetus; to provide a theory for how we come to know (epistemology), we find that we must already know so as to come to know. This is why the rational subject is a knowing being, which begins in self-identity. If you deny your own identity, then from whence doth thou speaketh?
>the epistemic subject is genuinely a blank slate prior to the perceptual act of knowledge creation we call learning
Kant disproves this by seeing how the form of empirical knowledge is formed from the pure intuitions of space and time (in the understanding). Phenomena (i.e. perception) is constituted by these, which do not exist in things themselves, but in how things appear to us. To perceive thus, is to have content for what is formal. Proof of this is in how thinking itself is perceptual, as you put it, and so is conditioned by an internal space and time, which as I have said, links necessity to causation, and so logic to the realm of intelligence.
>you only know what you remember
We also come to know by Reason alone, hence I can know that all bachelors are unmarried, despite never having a memory of all bachelors and married people.
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>>2726718
>I simply disagree, so we must abandon this issue.
it's difficult to do that and continue the conversation because it's essentially the central issues we have.
>Okay, so what are the primary propositions of logic?
those propositions which define truth-function operators, which i maintain are simply formal instructions for the practical activity of constrained signification. e.g. a biconditional equality is evaluated as false if the truth-value of the composite propositions differ, and true if they do not. the law of identity then stipulates that every symbol within a logically admissible universe of discourse satisfies a true biconditional equality with itself. what is constitutive here is not an identical equation of two symbols, but rather the structural non-identity of the symbols "true" and "false" inherent to the form of truth-value. i.e. truth is not true by reflexive identity with itself, but by virtue of not being false, and vice versa.
>denotes the content of thinking
it denotes the content of one particular species of thought formalized through intentionally constructed practice.
>the laws of thought are logical.
thought constructs imperatives by which it constrains itself, and among those imperatives are the imperatives of the historical and plural disciplines of logic.
>Reason is not an object of history, it is the subject.
i'm not an idealist so i disagree. reason is an object created within natural history. reason is only the subject of its own particular history within the wider self development of nature.
>If you deny your own identity, then from whence doth thou speaketh?
i don't see that the cartesian certainty issue has bearing on the possibility of a definition of knowledge. regardless, i don't deny identification outright as a functional instrument of thought, but i do deny any supposed correspondence between propositions and noumenally differentiated "things". the "things" to which the propositions correspond are the propositions themselves. as sellars said, all intentional "awareness of things" is a linguistic affair.
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>>2729042
>it's essentially the central issues we have
A presupposition is implicit. A proposition is explicit.
>truth is not true by reflexive identity with itself, but by virtue of not being false, and vice versa.
No, you are confusing the series of laws in logic. The law of identity is primary (self-proof), but the law of non-contradiction as a negative proof (i.e. non-otherness) is secondary - this accords with (i) reflexivity and (ii) non-falseness. It's not either/or, since a double-negative provides a positive result anyway. Hegel uses the law of non-contradiction to criticise identity, as being grounded by the difference of difference (e.g. "A ≠ not-A"), but both propositions are still true, but exist in different modes. Hegel likewise admits to the validity of identity as a formal proof, but just says it is contentless, like Fichte.
>it denotes the content of one particular species of thought
You are contradicting yourself. If thought is perception, as you say, then it has necessary conditions, which Kant locates as internal space and time which gives linearity. To say that thinking is unconditional cannot be true.
>reason is an object created within natural history.
Yet "natural history" has no self-conception without it.
>the "things" to which the propositions correspond are the propositions themselves.
So again, you deny the existence of "things" to know, and so deny the category of knowledge itself. This is the epistemological contradiction of materialism, that you yourself propose an ontology, yet deny being in itself. Like I said earlier, the "true" materialist cannot propose materialism, since in naming it, you lose the Tao. This is also why it's important to distinguish between intelligence (i.e. the knowledge of being) and wisdom (the unknowable). When we engage in speech (i.e. thought), we are in the realm of intelligence (λόγος). God does not have a name: (Exodus 3:14, John 1:18).
>for kant intuitions are given in sensibility, not understanding
To Kant, sensibility is a condition of the understanding. It is the mind which impresses space and time on things. If we are to consider time "in itself", it is unconditionaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2729042
>>2729098
To relate what you say to what I am saying, we both agree that thought and speech are symbolic devices (such that Plato inherently relates speaking and thinking as two modes of the same act), and that the entities which these interact with are abstract variables which give proposition to their own being. You perhaps also agree to the Kantian position that space and time are causal impressions imposed on objects - I emphasise the point that this then makes logic an inherence of thought, since if thinking has conditions which necessitate ends then there are laws which it abides by (you dismiss this but entirely insufficiently, by offering the alternative proposition of non-identity, failing to see that "non-identity" is a formal identity in itself, since if it is proposed it maintains positivity, or self-identity. Further, formal non-identity leads to immediate contradiction, since if A≠A, then the presupposition of A cannot be proposed, so is an impossible claim. Your dismissal would be as if I claimed "1+1=3" but provided no proof. It's not just lazy, but incredibly dishonest). Thus, as it will be proper to conclude, thought is logical, and so thought can be identified with the Greek (λόγος). Once we establish this, we may see that if thought may grasp anything, it is itself, and so this is the primary proposition (e.g. Cartesian subjectivity; A=A), which also has the implicit presupposition of identity in itself (A).

Moving on, to see thinking and speaking as the same act, mediated by symbols, with Being apprehended as identity, and thus as unity with a symbol, is to see Being as necessarily differentiated by different symbols. Thus, a different word denotes a different "thing" (for else, it would not be distinguished; a table and a chair differ in their nominality only by the extent that they differ in their formal reality). So then, Being is difference, by which words identify the essences of things in their real signification (for example, the nominal in itself is insufficient, for if we speak different languages yet signify the same thing; say, "chair" and "καρέκλα", the name is different, but the formality is maintained). So then, signification is divided, between appearance and essence, where all appearances aim at esPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2729161
>To relate what you say to what I am saying, we both agree
mr smith does not agree or argue in good faith. he wont meet you in the middle he will say your position is symbolic and wrong and his is universal and correct. he will then claim his position is humble and conciliatory and your position is dogmatic and leads to slavery. he is a crypto nazi who thinks you should be killed.

US House rejects war powers resolution to end Trump’s hostilities with Iran
By a vote of 212-219, the House voted to reject a war powers resolution proposed by Thomas Massie, a Republican representative, and Ro Khanna, a Democratic representative, which would have forced the US to withdraw from the conflict until Congress authorized military action. The vote was largely along party lines, with two Republicans breaking with their party to support the resolution, and four Democrats voting against it.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/05/us-house-war-powers-resolution-vote

GOP Senator and AIPAC Darling Tim Sheehy Accused of Breaking Anti-War Veteran’s Arm
US Sen. Tim Sheehy came under fire Thursday after the former Navy SEAL was involved in an incident in which a Marine Corps veteran and Green Party Senate candidate’s arm was fractured after he disrupted a hearing to protest the illegal US-Israeli war on Iran.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/tim-sheehy-breaks-marine-s-arm

Trump fires Homeland Security head Kristi Noem, names Mullin as replacement
The staffing change, he added, will take effect starting March 31. It marks the first major cabinet-level shake-up of Trump’s second term so far. Trump praised Noem upon her departure from the cabinet-level post, writing that she “has served us well, and has had numerous and spectacular results (especially on the Border!)”
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/5/trump-says-he-will-replace-homeland-security-chief-kristi-noem
https://archive.ph/iSWSE

Court says Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis can't call civil rights group a 'terrorist organization'
U.S. District Judge Mark Walker issued a preliminary injunction against the governor's actions related to the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR. DeSantis issued an executive order on Dec. 8 calling CAIR a "terrorist organization," wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

CP of Greece, D. Koutsoumbas: The people will find a way out of this burning world by joining forces with the KKE
“Developments speak for themselves and shatter the complacency you have fostered for so long, while confirming the persistent warnings of the KKE”, said Dimitris Koutsoumbas, General Secretary of the Central Committee of the KKE, at the start of his speech in Parliament on 4 March. Addressing the Prime Minister, he refuted the propaganda that “as long as US forces are here, no one will bother us”, at a time when US bases across the region are coming under attack. D. Koutsoumbas also addressed those who try to disconnect the role of the bases from their very presence Greece, pointing out that it is precisely the governments and Euro-Atlantic parties that have supported their presence. “You are hypocrites and liars”, he said bluntly. He stressed that the bases must go, because the Greek people will not tolerate their country being turned into an aggressor against other peoples in order to enhance the position of the ruling class —that is, those who exploit their labour. The GS of the CC of the KKE highlighted the need to denounce the agreement granting infrastructure to the US and NATO forces, and called for the return of all Greek Armed Forces units stationed abroad.
https://www.solidnet.org/article/CP-of-Greece-D.-Koutsoumbas-The-people-will-find-a-way-out-of-this-burning-world-by-joining-forces-with-the-KKE/

Kamala Harris might run for president again in 2028. Please, no
I’ve got some good news and some bad news for you today. The bad news is, well, everything. As you may have noticed, the world is on fire. The good news, however, is that a savior may be at hand. Kamala Harris, a politician who has never won a presidential primary and lost the popular vote to Donald Trump in 2024, hasn’t ruled out running for president again. Harris has kept a fairly low profile since November 2024, focusing most of her energy on promoting 107 Days, her account of her truncated presidential run, and appearing as the guest of honour at the 2025 Australian Real Estate Conference. But she has also made it clear that she still has an eye on the White House: in an interview with the BBC last OctoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Thank You, Based News Anon ✊

Why is it called the America-Ecuador war if the US is teaming with Ecuador's forces

>>2722825
Because it's a war waged by the government against its own country.

Please over extend.

>>2689809
looks kind of useless since you already know what the underlying behavior is. a sinusodial model would be enough

Somebody asked on 4chan the other day whether communist could prove they could do superior planning by proving they could complete a public project on time.
That got me wondering. There is talk about how cybernetic planning could forecast demand. However there is no talk about public projects.
How could the state forecast sonething like how long itd take the chipfab being built in the us for example?

does someone have the new farjoun and machover digitally? it's quite expensive as a physical copy.

>>2722642
it would help if you specified which book exactly. he's HLPtGE

here's a meme for all control theory enjoyers ITT

>>2720972
>muh tankies
fucking kys retard

>>2720989
Please tell me this is a joke
>>2720992
Listen I’m sorry but what other word can you use to describe Pol Pot defenders?!?!

based thread

>>2720917
>>2698808
I remember they showed that photo in that documentary. That's the Pol Pot clique and the Vietnamese sympathizer clique leadership

What would've happened if Pol Pot never provoked Vietnam and didn't get invaded?

>>2722596
There's a decent book related to the subject matter called "Ten myths about israel"

>>2722580
don't forget how israelis treat ethiopian jews >>2722584

they're so blatantly trying to rewrite history

>>2721649
Ritual abuse is real. Satanic Panic was a discrediting of real events. Hypnosis is real. Cults are real and old. All of these things can still fit into the nature of the owning class while being materially minded. This woman is clearly in a mentally damaged state but that doesn't negate her story.

>>2722311
regardless he was still dismissed as a Jew in his day and treated with contempt because of it. Jenny's parents cut her off cause she married a "Jew"

>>2722313
did you read the rest of the post I was replying to. he didn't mean it the way you mean it.
he said
>Marx is a jew
followed by:
> and this board is founded on jewish exceptionalism and supremacism
obvious fucking /pol/yp nonsense.

>>2722409
David Ben Gurion is from YOUR political tradition and there’s no amount of whitewashing that can cover it

>>2722438
i denounce david ben gurion. explain what your """political tradition""" is so we can play the same game with you.

>>2722443
Anti politics