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Why does the left not focus on cooperativization rather than nationalization of industries? If we did manage to replace every company with a cooperative, would that not still be some kind of proto-Socialist position, albeit with markets still intact?
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>>2835129
>>2835130
>the value of a political theory lies in how many revolutions the theoretician personally started
by this logic the CIA is the ultimate revolutionary theorist since they have started hundreds of color revolutions.

Hi, guys

I would like to ask you guys to go to EU Inc. proposal page in "Have your say" portal to ask Commission to include cooperatives in their regulation. Here is all you need to know why that's important and to make it easier for you to write your feedback and provide sources too, anyway two studies (1)(2) commissioned by EU identified these problems with the existing SCE (European cooperative society) regulation:

1. High capital requirement to start-up (30000 euros) which is absurd for a cooperatives which rely on labor and frequently struggle to access capital

2. Complicated registration procedures since all 27 member states have their own ways to register SCEs, frequently goverment institutions have no idea how to do it, for example one study references a situation where registration took a whole year, and there is no mechanism to notify other member states then SCE is registered in one state

3. Furthermore in order to register SCE members must come from at least 2 different countries which is arbitrary because all member state citizens are automatically EU citizens so it just needlessly makes it harder to register one

4. Little reason to use SCE legal form then national cooperative forms are much more convenient and can be used to operate cross-borders anyway and little knowledge and visibility that SCEs eve exist

Now proposed EU Inc. regulation would fix LITERALLY all of the problems mentioned above because:

1. It has very low capital requirement, so far the proposal only asks for 100 euros i.e. 300 times less than to set up a SCE
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This is a neat thread, do it again

>>2834694
>markets still intact
"Markets" is just another euphemism for capitalism. So called "coops" under capitalism are not what the name suggests as differences to other types of private commercial businesses such as shareholding are in practice miniscule and merely formal. In order to not get crushed by commercial market competitors privately owned "coops" must generate revenue, transform goods and products into commodities, accumulate capital and constantly expand just like any other capitalist. After a certain time however an operative threshold is reached and the effects of the falling rate of profit might kick in noticably, making maintaining revenue & growth more difficult. So in order to stay in business private commercial coops are bound to employ the usual bourgeois methods that is degrade product quality while the price is increased, cut r & d costs, degrade working conditions, cut wages of employees and "invest" in imperialist activities of the bourgeois state.
A "nationalized" coop under socialism or communism works entirely different, because socialist and communist economies are based on demand, not on the desire of bourgeois individuals to limitless hoard while preventing others from accessing and distributing resources for common purposes most efficiently.
"More coops" is pseudo-socialist liberal hogwash, it will change nothing substantially as the capitalist mode of production remains untouched.

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>>2835107
hey puss… did robert owen even really exist



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How do communists prevent capital flight? It seems like the capitalists will make the economy scream if you organize trade unions and put socialists in power. I suppose sanctions are a similar issue at a larger scale if you've smashed the state.
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>>2839369
Through incentives for foreign capital. They will not care if you give them good deal. and national capital cannot fly away because the conditions of profitability it's in the nation. If no revolution they prolly going to fund psyop, opposition, corruption, etc rather than just leave

>>2839431
4e you give them low taxes for 30 years plus other bonuses in exchange for local investment and local acquisition of shit and local funding of R&D and university and shit like that through a government promotion of some stupid bullshit

explain what you mean by prevention

>>2839422
Their argument was easier when property was mostly a physical thing, but the digitization of the economy has made this no longer the case; it's much harder to confiscate the latter than the former. Plus you have few options if your "skilled" labor force decides to emigrate (what are you going to do, create another iron curtain? Forget the impact on public opinion, it didn't work before and won't work now, but even if it did it would require a tiny country with a totalitarian regime like NK - aka not socialism at all, but Bonapartism), or when you need goods that require access to the international market (again, autarky doesn't work - even NK is dependent on China and Russia to access goods), the creation of a black market that undermines your official one, or just simply if you face foreign pressure in the form of sanctions, a denial of credit, or other means of financial isolation. This is why the need for an international coalition in order to overthrow an international system and move beyond it becomes apparent: history doesn't move backwards.

>>2839369
post the video not the thumbnail



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Look, I used to be deep in the third internationale scene, councilcoms, leftcoms, NEP diehards, the whole united front of 3rd internationalist trash. Spent years on barricades in bavaria that went nowhere but to long jail terms and isolated comrades, who piss workers off.

Here's what nobody wants to say these movements don't actually want liberation. They want perpetual grievance. They'll talk about establishing a socialism in one country blah fucking blah but have you noticed how these never seems to include any plan for what happens after? How the only solution they offer is the destruction of the only social democracy in the region? Germany would become socialist before a bolshevik run russia would.

I'm just saying, i know the weimar regime is fucked, and yes social-democracy has a bad history, but ask yourself who benefits when the left fragments into a dozen purity spirals. Ask yourself why "build the productive forces" gets chanted louder than any concrete demand for soviet power or negotiated production. the third internationalists want open borders in the west but hard authoritarian borders in any region that acts as a hostile force to the west. Some of us are tired of romanticizing resistance that only ever produces more corpses and chauvinist nationalism.

you idiots want to come to terms with reality start by admitting your heroes are running a dangerous disgusting grift.

Yeah no shit lol. Career loonies love to go to normal one issue protests with a soviet flag making us all look stupid.

Just dumb it down, take the method of the right say shit like we will make sure you get more money, addressing climate change will make more jobs and more money. Take the slurs the capitalists use against migrants and use landlord specific slurs instead.

Keep it short and sweet no ten thousand hours of 19th century theory.

>>2839098
I know the post this is referencing lol

>Spent years on barricades in bavaria
>barricades
>in Bayern
Ahahahahaha, cool story bro
>Succdems bad, BUT…
>please don't support actual communists because they're losers i swear
>Germany would become socialist before a bolshevik run russia would
comedy gold

kys lib

>>2839098
not sure who this satire is targeting



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You guys don’t fine it weird how this man became the world's first trillionaire and then you go to his social media and he spends all day reposting videos of minorities committing crimes, anti-immigration propaganda, etc.?

It’s like he knows his ass is on the line and he's desperate to redirect the anger of the masses to another target. The worst part is that it works.
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>>2839485
listen just because the guy that orders the design of and approves those engagement bait algorithms just recently became the first trillionaire in history doesn't mean we should start jumping to conclusions all of a sudden

>>2839487
You forgot Orban and the Polish right in the list too. The worst part? Their partisan will actually pretend they solved the problem while still attacking the left or even liberals because it turns out "immigration" is not about immigration for the most part.
Trump hasnt reduced it significantly by the way but UK Labour did. Guess which one is being defamed by the rightwing medias constantly?
>>2839492
Well said. When we win we will deport these guys to deep red flyover rural town so they can experience the joys of an ethnically homogenous christpilled hogh trust society they promote so much. Because they wont go there by themselves clearly.

elon is the richest man in the history of… ever

>>2839474
deport crackers back to europe
all crackers are jewish niggers btw

>>2839467
That trillionaire dick taste good, cuck bitch?



 

I wrote this article on "Dare To Struggle", a front group for the "Organization of Communist Revolutionaries", itself a splinter group of the RCP (Bob Avakian's cult). There is basically nothing on the group on the internet besides its own posts and websites, I decided to change that. Notable things they've done are threatening to kill other leftist groups for being liberals (despite doing materially the same things as them) and somehow never getting in trouble for them, praising the Shining Path more than any other communist group that actually beat the capitalists in their country, and general retardation and LARPing. Would be interested in seeing what other people think about this group.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dare_To_Struggle_-_Organization_of_Communist_Revolutionaries
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>>2839596 (me)
Just looked it up, this was about 3 days ago in /ISG/. He has not posted since then, but his last non deleted post is from around a week ago.

>>2839579
no one on /leftypol/ was stupid enough to donate to houdini; if anyone did it was just houdini funneling money to himself to fake it.

>>2839606
>the website where users fall for the most obvious bait and LLM slops posts all the time

2839606

Didn’t Houdini and that Juche posters account both post threads the same week with CashApp links? Lol. The feds aren’t that sharp, though. What’s way more likely than North Korean super-meth soldiers is just a handful of burned out leftists hooked on crystal, trying to scrape together cash so they don’t end up fully homeless. Cops aren't always the most creative, so they see that and go, “Yep, possible kingpin".

>>2839578
Felix and Houdini are gonna rape you



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https://www.marxists.org/archive/mattick-paul/1975/us-indochina.htm
>The American economy is geared to the world market, of which it requires an increasingly larger share as U.S. capital expands. If this share contracts — and it is bound to contract, should more nations turn away from the American-dominated world market towards a kind of "second world market" which restricts, or excludes, the exploitation of less-developed nations by the developed ones — it will force the internal American development into isolation and in the direction of a state-controlled economy.
Is this prediction basically in the process of being realized given the present conditions of multipolarity and the fact that the American economy has been running on state-subsidized tech bubbles? Does anyone have a statistical QRD of this tendency at hand?

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burgers cant even make wrenches anymore



 

every major revolutionary or determinist marxist in history:
>the bourgeois/tsarist electorate is the most effective means of organizing the working class, serving as a megaphone, and even in potential victory laying the contradictions of the system bare.
every modern larpy communist org with 1500 members total which hasn't grown in 50 years and does nothing at all except sell pamphlets:
>noo you can't participate in elections that's hecking electoralism that's hecking revisionist
explain this?
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>>2838595
Because the larpers know that participating in elections would actually be a clear metric that would show how disconnected they are from the working class when they get 0.5% of the vote lol.

If you notice, the larp and sect left never have concrete measurable goals for anything they do. Their whole modus operandi is diffusing ideology which literally can't be measured

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Nobody reads Lenin and everybody is a liberal.

See being a communist is not determined by "your beliefs" or by what you read, that's a liberal understanding. Being a communist is about your actions.
It doesn't matter if you're a theory buff, if you do not ACT communist then you are a liberal, that's hwhat.

Lenin tells you what TO DO and why to do it, it's the reason he's essential no-skip reading. Mao also helps with that. Log off and go do stuff, stop being a liberal NOW!

>>2839688
Ok? But if there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, and that is the only choice afforded to workers under capitalism then I may as well live as an apolitical normie but with the knowledge that the whole system is rigged.

>>2839688
>Lenin tells you what TO DO
No he doesn't. Reading Lenin literally without understanding his historical surroundings and the people he's debating will net you a bunch of contradictory and inapplicable positions

>>2839688
kinda truth nuke
>>2840044
total truth nuke

you must go outside and kill a porky now. at random. if every worker did this just once it would be over



 

What's the solution to the problem she explains in the video? The western left is not simply doomed but the problem posed by having a CIA approved version of marxism mudding the waters needs to be solved somehow.
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>>2839364
The final boss of It's Not My Job to Educate You

>>2840075
"Lumpen nation" would imply that they live off the handouts of the "proletarian nations".

>>2840075
define "lumpen"

>>2839142
marxists must infiltrate the CIA harder than the CIA infiltrates the left. i nominate AOC to pull this off

All my political opinions come from bimbos and himbos from Zion's Tiktok, Reels and the Fuhrer's X



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Deng Xiaoping Theory saved Marxism from irrelevance by shifting its focus from perpetual class struggle to practical economic development. In the late 1970s, orthodox Marxist-Leninist economies faced severe stagnation and widespread poverty. Deng revitalized the ideology by introducing market mechanisms into a socialist framework, creating a model that allowed communist states to survive and thrive in a modern globalized world. [1]

Rebranding Productive Forces
Prioritizing wealth: Deng argued that poverty is not socialism.
Redefining communism: He stated that true socialism must develop productive forces.
Shifting metrics: Economic output replaced ideological purity as the primary goal. [2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Decoupling Markets from Capitalism
Pragmatic tools: Markets and planning were viewed as economic tools, not defining political traits.
Market Socialism: He proved market mechanisms can serve a socialist economy.
Foreign capital: China opened doors to global investment while maintaining state control. [7, 8, 9, 10, 11]

The "Seek Truth from Facts" Philosophy
Rejecting dogma: Deng discarded blind adherence to utopian Marxist theories.
Results-oriented: Policies were judged by their ability to raise living standards.
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>>2839482
ultras have nothing but complaining from their armchairs

>>2839483
Why would I cry if China does something that benefits the real movement? You know the "capitalists will sell you the rope to hang them" applies to Chinese capitalists as well right?

>>2839484
I mean if you actually bothered to learn about China from Chinese themselves you would realize all the things I talked about are publicly discussed problems in China. Btw there are lots of Chinese leftcoms as well.

>>2839477
No they wouldn't, they don't even have the capacity for that in the slightest

>>2839457
the cat is both black and white

No, Gorbachev did



 

Protests staged in Metro Manila on PH Independence Day 2026
Participating groups were from Bayan, Anakbayan, PISTON, Karapatan, and allied organizations. Their protests focused on opposition to imperialism, calls for just peace, withdrawal of United States troops, and the repeal of defense agreements, while also denouncing alleged foreign military aggression and demanding to "junk EDCA." Signed in 2014, EDCA or the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement grants American troops access to designated Philippine military facilities, the right to construct facilities, and to pre-position equipment, aircraft, and vessels, but does not allow permanent basing.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/991206/protest-independence-day-issues/story/
https://archive.ph/XGfsU

Bengal: Red Flags Stand up Against BJP Bulldozers to Defend Hawkers
Acting on petitions filed by the Centre of Indian Trade Union (CITU)– affiliated Railway Hawkers’ Union and associations representing small businesses, the Calcutta High Court on Wednesday (June 10) ordered temporary suspension of the eviction process in the railway markets of Naihati, Dankuni and Konnagar until June 17. Justice Hiranmay Bhattacharya, while issuing the order, directed that neither the Railway authorities nor the state government would be permitted to carry out any forcible eviction at these three locations until June 17.
https://www.newsclick.in/bengal-red-flags-stand-against-bjp-bulldozers-defend-hawkers

A Myanmar rights group urges FIFA to drop Mytel’s World Cup rights over connections to military
The group, Justice For Myanmar, told The Associated Press on Friday it only learned this week that international soccer’s governing body FIFA had granted the exclusive Myanmar broadcast rights to Mytel after the telecoms operator launched its local advertising campaign for the World Cup.
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Replace P with N in Photoshop.

A woman’s hypothermia death in Pittsburgh after her release from ICE custody is ruled a homicide
Daphy Michel, 31, died March 2. She was found at a bus shelter in Pittsburgh. The Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s Office found her cause of death to be hypothermia and ruled the manner a homicide, “indicating the death was caused by the actions of another individual” and should not be interpreted as a declaration of criminal guilt, the office said in a statement. The office released its findings Friday.
https://apnews.com/article/haiti-woman-homicide-ice-e31e7109eba053b41f6b0319640df042

Cruz breaks with Trump on key endorsements as 2028 looms
Cruz this week announced he was backing Rick Jackson for Georgia governor and Alan Wilson in South Carolina's race for governor. Jackson, a wealthy health care executive, faces Trump-backed Lt. Gov. Burt Jones in Georgia's June 16 runoff. Wilson, South Carolina's attorney general, is up against Trump-endorsed Lt. Gov. Pamela Evette in a runoff taking place on June 23.
https://www.axios.com/2026/06/13/ted-cruz-trump-endorsements-2028
https://archive.ph/ZdgZ6

Blaze at 1m-sq-ft California warehouse rages into third day: ‘We’re struggling’
The fire has been raging at the medical supplier Medline Industries’ warehouse in Tracy, a city of more than 100,000 residents located about 55 miles (90km) east of San Francisco. Officials expect to be battling the fire for a few more days.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/13/california-warehouse-fire-tracy

Some people are making guns with 3D printers. A new law seeks to cancel their print jobs
A New York law signed last month and a bill in the California Legislature both would direct panels of experts to come up with standards for firearm blueprint detection algorithms. The technology would analyze every design submitted for 3D printing, compare it to a digital library of fPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Elon Musk: What kind of system produces a trillionaire?
"If a man tells you he got rich through hard work, ask him: 'Whose?'" The old remark by Don Marquis has never been more relevant. Elon Musk has officially become the world's first trillionaire. Predictably, the newspapers, television networks and business magazines are treating it as a historic achievement. A monument to innovation. A triumph of genius. Proof that capitalism rewards talent. But a trillion dollars is not a measure of talent. It is rather a measure of power. No human being creates a trillion dollars. No human being earns a trillion dollars. A trillion dollars represents the labor of countless workers — miners, engineers, technicians, drivers, factory workers, programmers, cleaners, warehouse employees — whose collective work is transformed into private wealth. The billionaire appears at the end of the process and claims the credit. The defenders of capitalism want us to marvel at the size of Musk's fortune. We ask a simpler question: Who produced it? Not Musk alone. Not even remotely.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/06/elon-musk-what-kind-of-system-produces-a-trillionaire.html

Mamdani and the ABCs of Marxist State Theory
More than four months have passed since Zohran Mamdani, a young activist from the Democratic Socialists of America, rose to the position of mayor of one of the wealthiest and most important cities in the world. His electoral victory over the Democratic Party establishment candidate, Andrew Cuomo, was viewed sympathetically by many and seen as an expression of a leftward shift among a generation that led the university campus occupations in solidarity with Palestine and has been radicalizing since the rise of Bernie Sanders. His campaign centered on “affordability,” with proposals including free public transportation, taxes on billionaires, and anti-repression demands, such as the dissolution of the police’s most violent units. For these reasons, his candidacy was widely perceived as a challenge to the U.S. political and social order. Yet, as soon as the task of administering the state apparatus took hold of both the candidate and the organization, they made a series of concessions to economic and political power. These concessions sparked intense debaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2839376
……….what



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