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Why does everyone in leftist circles hate him now?

I remember when he had a whole cult around him in the early 2010s during Occupy and was a huge cheerleader for the Rojava revolution in the years that followed. His book Debt The First 5000 Years was a huge hit (and I mean HUGE, in the sense that you'd see it sold in both anarchist infoshops and mainstream booksellers like Barnes). He was instrumental in rewriting the historical narrative of class formation and the development of money and economic systems. A lot of Marxists didn't like that but they had zero means of debunking his work. When he died in 2020 there was an outpouring of love from leftists all over the world, for an anarchist intellectual who meant so much to people.

But now, I never see Graeber mentioned, ever. The only times I see him or his work brought up is to heavily chastise it, or attack him for his anarchist politics. Tankies hate him but can never prove him wrong. I have to ask why he's become nothing but a footnote in the history of leftist thought, especially when he was so celebrated 15 years ago.
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>>2909111
I'm AuDHD so give me the TL;DR or else you're ableist.

>>2909112
I do too which is why I haven't read them either

>>2909085
One of his big claims is that primitive communism never existed.

>>2910091
So humans society always had surplus that was privately owned?
How does he criticize capitalist economists for being evil and wrong then go ahead and claim private property is human nature?



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>I support Western civilization except for democracy, human rights, equality, secularism, separation of church and state… I actually just like Greek statues.
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>>2909831
Strange how all the good ideas came from that time period but modern society is still stuck using morality from the enlightenment at the very least. The best we can come up with is sloppaganda AI ethics and nobody can agree on anything let alone stop the genocides or wars. Almost like hard conditions create strong men yada yada.

>>2909901
>enlightenment ethics
Bro, try ethics from 2,000 year-old religions.

>>2907005
so there's no such thing as ethnic competition anymore? everything has to be viewed through an universal moral framework?

>>2909910
That's why I said at least.
>reading comprehension

I love how this thread is becoming increasingly chuddy. We need more /pol/ in /leftypol/.
Traffic is at an all time low.



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i’ve been seeing so many different views on the internet, so i’m super confused, but i’ve noticed that a lot of groups criticize trotskyism, primarily due to its association with intraleft criticisms. what do all of you think? are trotskyists just whiners or is their fourth international genuinely a continuation of the eventual state of communism?
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>>2904901
Are you ignoring that Trotsky specifically stated that Zionism was a dead end? He would have just done what the Soviets did by giving the Jews an autonomous oblast.

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>>2903019
Trotsky never was the alternative people hoped he would be. Communism became corrupted way before Stalin as he was just a natural result of conditions set by Lenin. But even blaming him misses the point of Marx disregarding warnings from Proudhon and Bakunin that his model of socialism would create just more tyranny and slavery instead of abolishing it.

>>2909866
>more
More than or just more ?

>>2903678
Why do people make cringe art and fan fiction about trotsky?

>>2909866
And bakunin and proudhon would become fascists to save their (lack of) systems. Anarchist dreams vs reality that people as a whole are passive and need a strong patriarch to guide them.



 

Explain this you Eurocentric, racist Marxists with your necessary linear stages of development. Did the Inca already have their capitalist stage before they achieved socialism or not?
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>leftard using the n word
Watch jannies not ban them

>>2909757
>bordigger clitty leakage over getting called what they call themselves
Truly most neurotic deranged specimens

Under communism we will clone bordiga billions of times and send them straight into the sun to keep its nuclear fusion reaction going

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>>2909271
>society on a different continent centralized different hereditary tribute structures
>socialism
OHHH I HATE BLOOD AND SOIL SO MUCH

>>2909417
Beria regularly sacrificed young girls to Perun, Khrushchev put a stop to this and the USSR immediately declined.



 

Despite being richer on average and having better positions and generally scoring only slightly worse off if not the same as women in many economic indicators, Men commit significantly more crimes than women. Even more so for violent or severe crime, proven by the fact that they make up so little of the prison population.
This remains true even for places where sexual equality is low.

Why is that? What exactly is the difference between the circumstances and social treatment that makes men more likely to commit crimes? And how to fix that?
Is there any reason to believe the cause is just fundamental and the outcome would still be very disproportionate no matter the nurture?? Is there any deceisive evidence against this?
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>>2909712
You're not familiar with steroid-induced rage?
It leads to a lot of physical aggression.

>>2909764
No it does not. It simply makes people make decisions faster not better. A lot of men are probs walking around with violent thoughts. Testosterone makes it so that the decision is made faster without thinking it through. In itself testosterone doesnt cause violence

>>2909765
>steroids dont increase aggression
Delusional.
>violent thoughts
Don't women also have violent thoughts and are less self-controlled?

men don't commit more crimes, they just get caught more often.

>>2909787
It's not about crime in general, but violent crime in particular.



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Marx was historically a revisionist

>Marx underestimated capitalism's adaptability. Lenin's theory of imperialism was necessary to explain monopoly capitalism, colonialism, and the export of capital.

>Marx underdeveloped revolutionary organization. He never developed Lenin's theory of the disciplined vanguard party, democratic centralism, and professional revolutionary organization.
>Marx did not fully resolve the question of the state. Lenin developed the dictatorship of the proletariat into a much more concrete theory of revolutionary state power.
>Marxism-Leninism necessarily goes beyond Marx. Lenin, Stalin, and later revolutionaries developed Marxism according to new material conditions.

Calling Marx a revisionist is historically accurate, arguing that some Marxian positions became inadequate or revisionist when preserved uncritically after Lenin's developments is a defensible ML position.
>flood flood floooood
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>>2909497
What’s the point in reading anything? You’ll only ever be wrong or misinterpret something, even if you’re right there’s no reward for it

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>>2909511
That's just sad now.
Come on now.
Please tell me you are trolling.

Marx read books in a library all day, called the people actually doing irl experiments the utopians, shit on their ideas, then borrowed them later and everyone gave him credit (e.g. labor vouchers).

>>2909516
I’m being 100% sincere

>>2909675
Sad. Reading is healthy for you. Not asking for bookwormism but you have to exercise the brain like a muscle among other things.
>>2909674
The guys doing irl experiments were learned men so no contradiction. Marx was a gamer. Only a gamer can get angry at jewish nigger lassalle.



 

Houthis strike Saudi Arabian cities in significant expansion of Middle East war
Saudi Arabia said it would retaliate after the overnight strikes – reportedly involving dozens of drones and missiles – that targeted several oil facilities in the country’s south. The country would “take all necessary measures to defend its sovereignty”, a foreign ministry statement said, demanding a halt to the Houthi strikes on Saudi territory and oil tankers in the Red Sea.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/08/houthi-strike-saudi-arabia-oil-facilities-middle-east-war-iran

Netanyahu ‘Was Warned Ahead of 7 October but Failed to Act’
The investigation, published by Haaretz on Tuesday, claims that UAE president Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed told the Israeli prime minister by phone that the armed group was “preparing for a major event”. Netanyahu did not tell intelligence and military leaders about the conversation, according to the report, which cites unnamed senior foreign sources and a close adviser to bin Zayed who was present on the call.
https://novaramedia.com/2026/09/08/netanyahu-was-warned-ahead-of-october-7-but-failed-to-act/

Israel bans 11 British MPs and announces closure of UK consulate in East Jerusalem
On Tuesday the British government recognised the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank, declared the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory illegal and announced both comprehensive sanctions on Israeli settlements and a ban on all arms licences and other exports that "materially contribute to the occupation". France and Canada will also ban trade in settlement goods today, marking a significant diplomatic victory for the British government.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-lashes-out-uk-sanctions-and-announces-consulate-closure

Up to 100,000 job placements for Neets under DWP retailers’ scheme
Usdaw general secretary Joanne ThomasPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

NYC officials release unseen 9/11 documents about air quality following the attacks
"The very least our city owes the families, survivors and first responders whose lives were forever changed by the September 11th attacks is transparency and accountability," Mamdani said. "For too long, New Yorkers have had to fight for access to records that should have been available to them in the first place. This portal is part of our administration's enduring commitment to honor those we lost, care for those living with lasting health consequences, and give thousands of New Yorkers the answer they've been asking for."
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/9-11-air-quality-documents-records-nyc/

SEC wants to end pay-to-play prohibition for private equity
The Trump administration is seeking to rescind a rule that was put in place to stop private equity funds from bribing public officials, following a raft of pay-to-play scandals. The Securities and Exchange Commission claims that the Rule 206(4)-5 of the Investment Advisers Act stifles "free speech" and had too many unintended consequences.
https://www.axios.com/2026/09/08/sec-pay-to-play-private-equity
https://archive.ph/BUd4Y

Connecticut towns are installing license plate reading cameras on school buses
More than half a dozen towns — including Vernon, Bridgeport, Danbury, Shelton, Stratford, North Haven and New Haven — have contracted with a company called BusPatrol, which installs the technology on the towns’ bus fleets, then uses it to gather footage of any motorist passing a bus that’s displaying flashing red signal lights. The company’s technicians log the events and provide the recordings to local law enforcement.
https://apnews.com/article/license-plate-readers-school-buses-connecticut-43e4546bb39afc677c671c4916be98e6

1,300 casino workers strike Wynn Resorts’ Encore Boston Harbor
As of MondayPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Thank you based news anon

Germany’s Far Right Is Close to Power. Appeals to “Defend Democracy” Won’t Stop It.
One possibility is that a few Christian Democrats (CDU) who sympathize with the AfD and want nothing to do with Die Linke might switch sides. With its 17.2 percent share, the CDU’s ability to bring people together seems to have hit a low point. Alternatively, the BSW, on 5.3 percent, could be key. Whether BSW will support the AfD, as feared by the anti-AfD camp, or simply cost Siegmund his outright majority (as the AfD itself warned before the election) remains to be seen. Die Linke did a lot worse than polls suggested, on 8.6 percent; the Social Democrats (SPD) did slightly better with 9.3 percent; and the Greens did significantly better with 8.9 percent. If the Greens had failed to win any seats, as seemed possible, the AfD would likely have secured an absolute majority. Groups advocating tactical voting will likely interpret this outcome as validation of their efforts. Yet this overlooks the main consequence of this politics of interchangeability within the “democratic camp.” For it is made up of four weak parties that, taken together, are barely as strong as the AfD alone. The fact that this kind of “defense of democracy” is close to bankruptcy is evident from what “democracy” is being defended against here. For this election saw a near-absolute majority, a record voter turnout of 76 percent, and an enormous mobilization of previous nonvoters, the vast majority of whom went to the AfD.
https://jacobin.com/2026/09/afd-saxony-anhalt-election-nonvoters-left

The Imperialist Owl: Duolingo is Sanctioning Iranians
Duolingo’s green owl has become one of the most recognizable corporate mascots on the planet. It sends reminders, guilt-trips users over their streaks, and sells itself as a cheerful gateway to language learning across borders. But for Iranians, the owl now speaks the language of U.S. imperialism. As of September 1, Duolingo’s English Test is unavailable not only inside Iran but reportedly to people using Iranian identity documents anywhere in the world. Iranian students seeking admission, scholarships, visas, or a path into international education are being made to pay for Washington’s sanctions regime. Duolingo’s corporate restriction follows the suspension of a U.S. TreasPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Tybna



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Button that does nothing eidhsin

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>The United States military says it is striking targets in Iran over attempted attacks on shipping as Iranian media reports explosions in Asaluyeh, Jiroft, Bandar Abbas, Qeshm Island, Konarak, Chabahar, Jask, Sirik and Lavan.

<Iran’s army and IRGC promise the US will regret and face “severe punishment” for the aggression.
>US President Donald Trump says “if the failed Nation of Iran retaliates for this very justified attack, they will be hit again at a much harder and higher level”.
<At least two people killed in US attack on Iran’s Sirik, says deputy governor
>No casualties, minimal damage from US attack on Jiroft Airport: Local official
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>>2907931
sanduyghurs have much better k/d than you howeverbeit

>>2908326
because those were ground invasion you dumb fuck, instead being a boy pussy behind a rocket luncher try to do that, let's see how many American skulls we gonna collect.

being easy to anger is a feminine trait :/

>>2908767
being israel's bottom bitch for half of decade is a feminine trait.

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>NEW THREAD
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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Copypasting the past OP edition



The American question is: how does a settler-imperialist nation transform itself into a decolonized socialist commonwealth without either reproducing the imperial form or fragmenting into balkanized enclaves that allow capital to reconstitute, while resolving the contradictions of internal colonization and liberating its external colonies, therefore using the empire's collapse to accelerate material conditions to enable the global revolution?


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(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

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>>2909358
people think they can ride it to the top and cash out before it crashes. basically "nah i'd win" mentality.

>>2908924
Least obvious psyop
>mask mandate enforced
That one is good though. Covid is still circulating and infecting people, and so are plenty of other respiratory infections.

>>2908924
>mask mandate enforced
based


>>2909358
people love thinking they can beat the odds before becoming a statistic.
mildly more charitably you can hypothetically cash out early if you can ignore FOMO



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leute, ich rufe ich dazu auf hier in euer eigenen sprache zu posten. es ist an der zeit das diktat der anglos zu brechen. vorallem in hinblick darauf, dass das hier ein linkes bzw. multipolaristisch ausegrichtetes forum ist.

wir leben im zeitalter der maschinellen übersetzung. früher mussten nicht-anglos die ganze kognitive last tragen. wir mussten uns den anglos anpassen. damit ist jetzt schluss! wenn jemand an einem beitrag interessiert ist, dann wird er ihn selbst durch ein übersetzungstool jagen. ich tue das für meine eigenen beiträge jedenfalls nicht mehr. die englische sprache ist keine lingua franca, sondern ein werkzeug des anglo kulturimperialismus! es ist zeit widerstand zu leisten! postet in eurer sprache!
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>>2908802
mnie to obchodzi

Ingelesa globalismo unipolarraren bidea da. Ingelesez hitz egiteari uko egiten dion edonork erresistentzia aktiboa egiten ari da Atlantikoko potentzien nagusitasunaren aurka.

What language is this

Vere nihil utilis dicere potest, quo modum verba ipsa legi non curat.

>>2909243
hey anglo, ich werde hier nie wieder mehr auf englisch schreiben.

DEAL WITH IT



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