/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2937778
there are marx quotes in there too. any time i "spam" these quotes 2 things usually happen.

>people ASSOOM the point i am trying to make with them instead of just reading them at face value

>people accuse me of "quotemining" or "taking marx and lenin out of context" but never establish what the correct context is

the replies i get are usually short, low effort, full of accusations ,etc. these are the same anons who will just reply with "read marx" or "read lenin" usually but then when you actually quote marx and lenin they get very upset.

>>2937781
>Resolutely denounce Deng Xiaoping's reactionary crimes

pretty sure the cultural revolutionaries killed more Communist Party members than Deng Xiaoping did, including veterans of the World Antifascist War, but as usual with you types, killing comrades is the goal, as long as you make sure to slander them as not real communists beforehand.

<The United States and the Soviet Union have held talks that showed an encouraging tendency towards disarmament. We are happy to see this. I looked forward to the end of the Cold War, but now I feel disappointed. It seems that one Cold War has come to an end but that two others have already begun: one is being waged against all the countries of the South and the Third World, and the other against socialism. The Western countries are staging a third world war without gunsmoke. By that I mean they want to bring about the peaceful evolution of socialist countries towards capitalism. We are not surprised at the developments in Eastern Europe. These changes were bound to take place sooner or later. The trouble there started from inside. The Western countries have the same attitude towards China as towards the East European countries. They are unhappy that China adheres to socialism. The turmoil that arose in China this year also had to come about sooner or later. We ourselves were partly to blame. As you know, two of our General Secretaries fell because of their failure to deal with the problem of bourgeois liberalization. If China allowed bourgeois liberalization, there would inevitably be turmoil.[…] the Group of Seven summit meeting issued a declaration imposing sanctions on China. What qualifies them to do that? Who granted them the authority? Actually, national sovereignty is far more important than human rights, but they often infringe upon the sovereignty of poor, weak countries of the Third World. Their talk about human rights, freedom and democracy is only designed to safeguard the interests of the strong, rich countries, which take advantage of their strength to bully weak countries, and which pursue hegemony and practice power politics. We never listen to such stuff. Nor do you.

• Deng Xiaoping, Speaking to Julius Nyerere, We Must Adhere To Socialism and Prevent Peaceful Evolution Towar

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>>2937789
Kill yourself mao won

UPHOLD KIRKZALO THOUGHT!

>>2937791
>Kill yourself mao won

Yes, let us remember the words of the Great Helmsman Mao Zedong:

<The upper petty bourgeoisie and middle bourgeoisie, oppressed and injured by the landlords and big bourgeoisie and their state power, may take part in the new-democratic revolution or stay neutral, though they are themselves bourgeois. They have no ties, or comparatively few, with imperialism and are the genuine national bourgeoisie. Wherever the state power of New Democracy extends, it must firmly and unhesitatingly protect them. […] It is absolutely impermissible to repeat such wrong ultra-Left polices towards the upper petty bourgeois and middle bourgeois sectors in the economy as our Party adopted during 1931-34 (unduly advanced labor conditions, excessive income tax rates, encroachment on the interests of industrialists and merchants during the land reform, and the adoption as a goal of the so-called "workers' welfare", which was a short-sighted and one-sided concept, instead of the goal of developing production, promoting economic prosperity, giving consideration to both public and private interests and benefiting both labor and capital). To repeat such mistakes would certainly damage the interests both of the working masses and of the new-democratic state. […] To sum up, the economic structure of New China will consist of: (1) the state-owned economy, which is the leading sector; (2) the agricultural economy, developing step by step from individual to collective; and (3) the economy of small independent craftsmen and traders and the economy of small and middle private capital. These constitute the whole of the new-democratic national economy. The principles guiding the new-democratic national economy must closely conform to the general objective of developing production, promoting economic prosperity, giving consideration to both public and private interests and benefiting both labor and capital. Any principle, policy or measure that deviates from this general objective is wrong.

• Mao Zedong, The Present Situation and Our Tasks, 25th December, 1947. Preserved in The Selected Works of Mao Zedong
  

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da mod will be buried in da Chagos
coconut in di skull mi kill

>>2935698
hey remember in 2008 when Californians got together and voted to ban gay marriage?

>>2935772
the pro-loli argument boils down to not being a reactionary retard. get over it.

Any advice for Jack wilimos heading into November? The hands of that genius are ready to big or go home.

>>2935674
How the fuck is capitalism automatically pro-apartheid? Capitalism in the long run wants to make everybody a double-free laborer with no racial limits to employment. Marx was against slavery for a reason.

Israel as it exists in its current form is an anomaly. The majority of the Western ruling class would actually prefer a more palpable, left-liberal, softer form of Palestinian oppression.

>>2937646
>How the fuck is capitalism automatically pro-apartheid?
Uyghur please tell me you're not being serious.

>>2937646
>How the fuck is capitalism automatically pro-apartheid?
The idolatrous Mammon-worshipping d.egenerate system that your people like to label as "Capitalism" was birthed from slave-owner societies. The starting wealth which kick-started industrialization for the West was generated from genocide and colonialism. Capitalism goes hand in hand with apartheid, racism, slavery, and other ills.

https://x.com/upholdreality/status/2097745124021108961

>>2937630
>neither positive or negative regarding socialism
shalom

>>2937656
>the West
Capitalism is a global system.
The transatlantic slave trade involved Africans selling other Africans into slavery. Isolating it to a few polities entirely misses the point.

I thought the intelligence connections of these groups were especially interesting. Maybe slightly off topic, but I'm reading a book about the OKC bombing and Timothy McVeigh rn and though I'm not that far in there's already obvious glow in the dark shit concerning the White Nationalist militia movement and the state's insintence on McVeigh acting alone with minimal help for Nichols and Fortier to the point that they didn't even bring a witness to place him anywhere on the day of the bombing because those witnesses all saw at least one person accompanying McVeigh.

>>2937278
Yes, but maybe like the Animal Liberation Front in the '80s and 90's, In method of organisation only, obviously.
There was a central group who put out information.
But the idea was people would form their own groups and act independently. In the case of the ALF, members were often members of hunt saboteur groups.
Maybe ONA is a punk and more evil version of the old secret societies such as the Golden Dawn. In a biography of Aleister Crowley I read the author suggested that these orders were basically alternative gentleman's clubs.
With the ONA, there might also be a link to neo Nazi ideas about "leaderless resistance", or even the WWII Nazi "Mission Command" tactics.

>>2937296
To be fair, in post 9/11 west, anything other than leaderless resistance would be suicide regardless of the political motivation. Gone are the days of centralized organizations with commanders and lieutenants. Not that they were that sucessful in the 60s either (see Symbionese Liberstion Army and RAF)

>>2936991
>Myatt never admitted involvement with the O9A
You're right. I overstated this point.
What's funny of course is that even in that interview, he admits to creating the Star Game in 1975 – I wonder how that got back to old Anton, eh? The best case of Myatt's humiliating deception is in the Satanic Letters of Stephen Brown, where Michael Aquino rejects him for promoting human sacrifice (what Aquino properly identifies as a Christian veneration), and directly alleges that Myatt/Brown/Long are the same person. It was known all the way back then – so much for "honour".
>>2937218
>complex and confusing
If you read the text, its all quite simple.
Life is an intersection of causal and acausal energy. The goal of the initiate is to increase his acausality until he becomes "immortal". This energy is not just in individuals, but in peoples. History moves by the aeonic sorcery of chosen adepts (e.g. cliology). The new era will be a galactic imperium, etc. Its a revised Spenglerian view of historical process, with added occult jargon. The West is Faustian, and so on. In Myatt's 1984 text "Vindex" he interestingly discounts Marxism as a Faustian worldview, since it is Magian (e.g. Jewish), but Spengler saw it as authentically Western – Lenin's 'components' make that clear.
>>2937278
No – its literally the ramblings of like, 4 guys. Myatt, Moult, Ford and Sutter. All secondary characters are LARPers or schizos. It has no real existence as a 'group' or movement – its just edgy aesthetics.
>>2937296
The Golden Dawn actually had cultural elites in it.

>>2937218
>>2937657
The added lore, first exposited in the Satanic Letters, is that the o9a is apparently part of a Sinister Tradition, stretching back milennia (with Merlin Ambrosius being the last public initiate). Anton Long was also initiated by a mistress in 1969, in Shropshire, so he is the final disciple. The construction of this myth is to locate Hyperborea in Britain itself, so as to give meaning to the land. The hyperborean symbol in Naos is Stone Henge for that reason – interestingly, in Monmouth's History of the Kings of Britain (1136 CE), the "Giant's Dance" is transported from Ireland, with the stones themselves originally coming from Africa. So, this ancient symbol is apparently African, not British, based in its myth. Hermeticism, by the seven-fold way (7fw) is also the Western current, as opposed to the "Magian", and so this is the Sinister Tradition, as opposed to the Nazarene. I have previously shown how Plato is really the originator of kabbalah – and further, Gmirckin sees Judaism itself as derivative of Plato. Jews are a 'Western' construct, which is probably why Europeans worship a Jew as their God. Even the Corpus Hermeticum seems to plagiarise The Book of John, so the distinction of 'traditions' is meaningless. By the same terms, alchemy was founded by a Jewish woman; Hermetic philosophy only followed through with what was antecedent to it. Similarly, the revival of alchemy in the West comes through the Arabs. Renaissance is the cosmopolitan landscape brought about from urban, medieval trade.

Hate-watching Sam Hyde would be a good example (i have a crush on him but it has nothing to do with it)

Shitfling 24/7 on a liberian cork carving board to practice sectarianism and purges when they win power

>>2937313
Material balance planning on your laptop, designing the perfect labor voucher system

Supppooooort third world bourgeoisie

>>2937313
>what would communist calisthenics be?
Anarchists are communists.

>>2809728
I can't believe sex tourism existed even back then

>>2834874
Comrade, since you brought up the subject of "taking to the mountains," I would like to share my thoughts—though perhaps a bit selfishly. Regardless of how necessary or essential the act of "taking to the mountains" may have been at the time, it ultimately brought a negative reputation to the revolutionary and labor movements in Anatolia. Among the peoples of Turkey—Turks, in particular—the influence of the Kemalist regime has always persisted. Because Mustafa Kemal was a military man, this bourgeois culture inherently possesses a militaristic character. In the context of the struggle for national liberation in Kurdistan—driven by the necessities of that era—the concept of a "revolution from the countryside to the cities" (a Maoist term) was frequently attempted and employed by revolutionaries; it advocates for guerrilla warfare. There are specific reasons why this approach proved detrimental to the revolutionary movements in both Anatolia and Kurdistan. A significant factor is the racist narrative—originating during the era of Mustafa Kemal—that "everyone living in Türkiye is a Turk," which has affected a large number of Kurds. In other words, engaging in armed conflict alongside a population that had not yet fully embraced or reclaimed its own identity invited backlash from within that very community. This situation provided the regime with an opportunity to point to these groups and tell the rest of Türkiye: "Look, here is an example of how a 'minority' ought to behave!" Meanwhile, the Turkish public has long harbored a tradition of submission to the state—a legacy of the feudal era—coupled with a nationalist identity. Under Mustafa Kemal’s bourgeois government, this identity was rebranded as "republican" and proclaimed to be "progressive." Unfortunately, the notion that this identity is "progressive" has begun to gain traction among today’s youth, partly as a reaction to the Neo-Ottomanist rhetoric of the Erdoğan administration. Returning to the subject, the term "taking to the mountains"—which has become synonymous with the Kurdistan region—has, due to this nationalist identity, caused the labor and revolutionary movement in the Anatolian region to be perceived by the public as "Kurdish nationalists" or "terrorists." Consequently, revolutionary organizations that emerged in Anatolia, such as the DHKP-C (Revolutionary People's Liberation ParPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2845741
Fokoculuk ve kırdan şehire bizi bitirdi baba, bizi kim siktiyse maoculardan sikti.

>>2934709
>>2934691
I really appreciate your posts, comrade. Thank you. Very educational.
On the Kurdish question, do you think this peace process will prevail? To me it seems it has faltered recently, but the PKK has put themselves in a very bad spot if they as they have claimed really have abandoned 'Metina and Medya' Defense Zones, and the statements from their leadership shows a certain amount of pessimism. The sticking point (even leaving aside the ultra-nationalist elements within Turkey) as i see it is that an organized political force with such discipline, who will also be revered as heros by many Kurds within Turkey, seems more dangerous within the state and within mainstream political process, for example; if the trusteeship system was removed and the PKK cadres really were to come down from the mountains and engage in civil politics (with the HDP or as a new party in coalition with the HDP) would it be not almost guaranteed they would gain control of Kurdish majority cities like Diyarbakır, Van or Batman, and of all those towns in which had uprisings and in which the state sent their guns and their bombs and their artillery pieces to quash through the mid 2010s (I mean the siege and assaults on Silvan, Sur and Cizre, etc.)? Surely is this political influence not a more dangerous thing to the bourgeois class and the state apparatus than, what would seem the more attractive offer to the state, that is having long ago pushed the PKK out of Turkey, simply leaving them to their own, remaining holed up in Qandil, stuck in this strategic stalemate until the leadership dies off or gets picked off by bombers and raids, letting the organization decay through inertia?

>>2936489
Sorry, i was saying HDP here but meant to say DEM Party. Your country outlaws them so fast i cannot keep up.

>>2937246
When you’re as pleased with yourself as I am, you need not impress anyone.

>>2937149
Thats it! This mean Ukraine is collapsing for sure this time!

>>2937141
Will Daddy Trump save Russia?

>>2937419
>>2937419
you are laughing? people is trying to evade through the weirdest means possible their own death sentence and the ukrainian government economically sustained by the west denies their chance of living and still gets send to the meat grinder and you are laughing?

>>2937238
NTA but south africa and france are historically way more radical than the USA, and the biggest strike in US history happened after the civil war, not in the leadup to it. 1877 great strike was put down by both union and ex-confederate generals, signaling that reconstruction was truly over and the bourgeoisie had consolidated power in both "halves" of the US.

>>2937373
American capital is becoming increasily divided over its failed imperialist campaign crushing the strikes would be a lot more harder now then because automatic weapons exist (aka the population is even more armed tjen it was in the past).

I kinda wish I explored the civil war part of what I said but I also think it's not gonna be state vs state, instead its gonna be city/munipial government vs federal/state government, with a bunch of cults, milltias, and such fighting all sides (since all of which have formed during serve crisis in the USA)

the DSA will try and larp as revolutionaries but no one will care and they'll fizzle out

>>2937220
My predictions: Dems win, pause the war against BRICS so the USA can resupply and rearm, GOP wins next like always, war against BRICS restarted. Nothing happens domestically (Occupy/BLM were nothing)

>>2937353
i mean this sincerely and without malice: are you semi-illiterate? you've quoted the same post twice as though they are different posts, and in your second instance you've clearly stopped reading the sentence half way, right before the crucial marker of past tense.

it is not simply a matter of differing personal opinions to say, simply, that musk and his followers are not cool. one may not be able to pin it down and quantify it exactly, but it is a manifestly obvious underlying condition. there are people out there who are cool who i loathe and detest, but who clearly have clout. musk does not. he has money, he has power, but he is not and will never be cool. you cannot simply handwave away a huge underlying force of human culture by going "yeah but that's just like, your opinion!", especially when it comes to matters of taste (coolness).

it is apparent to me that it's a waste of time talking to you but i'll do this for the benefit of anyone else reading: the mistake this poster makes is that he imagines my analysis comes from a place of personal sympathy. i do not hide my sympathies, but this is not the case: what i do, and what i recommend all of you do, is extend materialist analysis fully to how individual human psychology works and the dynamics of the media we use. we judge our status relative to those around us! different mediums fundamentally shape the content they contain - you get very different posts on imageboards, on reddit, on twitter and on furaffinity because the fundamental underlying design of each creates different affordances for different styles of posting. "material conditions" goes much further than just "who is booj and who is prole" quickly handwaved to "who is rich and who is poor", especially when we're talking about something like coolness/social capital on the internet.

p.s. the idea one has to "go all the way" and spend lots of money is asinine. even if i were to concede that to become among (say) the top 10% "coolest furries", you've gotta buy an expensive suit and as much art as you can imagine - so what? why not settle for being in the top 50%? why not settle for being in the bottom 20% of furries by coolness - and still half the fucking loser you are posting shit on leftypol right now?
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>>2937273
Sounds like a problem easily solvable with more immigration.

>the west CANNOT survive
good

Sexo

The girl is way above his looksmatch. He will definitely get cheated on.