/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2894585
>Except they didn’t. Vanguardism is designed for leadership control, not class control. War communism did not help
Nope it is designed for class control. Just say you wanted the whites to win lol

>You contradicted yourself here. The Soviets, the councils are not only the organs of the party, they are the party. If they were truly intertwined, the party would not be able to take a leading role in such a manner because it would be taking control from itself to give to itself, which is impossible in a actual revolutionary worker’s party, but is very much possible in a vanguard party because it is not about class it is about leadership.
No you are just retarded. They are intertwined while being separate things, the party takes a leading position because it is a centralized body. The soviet's were never "in control", that's why the slogan was all power to the soviets, this happened, it just turned out to be the bolsheviks who commanded that power. There's no issue, you just don't like the bolshies

>Which is not good
I know for you communist victory is certainly not good, for you are an anticommunist

>And are also part of the reason why it fell to pieces.
No they're part of the reason the revolution was even able to happen at all

>Talk is cheap
Cheap rhetoric is even cheaper. Obviously they did more than just talk, they made it happen
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>>2894714
>Nope it is designed for
Control by a specific leadership group. I didn’t know how this is hard for you to understand.
>They are intertwined while being separate things
That doesn’t even make any sense. They have to be one and the same, no exceptions.
>the party takes a leading position
That doesn’t make any sense either. The party is the proletariat and vice versa. How can it take a leading role over itself?
>I know for you communist victory is certainly not good, for you are an anticommunist
The armed proletariat exists in place of soldiers and the military.
>No
Yes. Another organization separate from the proletariat, another organization that ended up stabbing over the proletariat.
>they made it happen
They explicitly stuck with war communism and Vanguardism.
>The war wasn't bad, just the effects and the circumstances and the result were bad.
I literally just stated this in the greentext you just posted above.
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>>2894755
>Control by a specific leadership group. I didn’t know how this is hard for you to understand.
Nope the leadership group is just an extension of the working class, easy-peasy


>That doesn’t even make any sense. They have to be one and the same, no exceptions.
It does make sense, you're just retarded. They don't have to be one and the same at all. That's just some arbitrary rule you made up lol

>That doesn’t make any sense either. The party is the proletariat and vice versa. How can it take a leading role over itself?
The working class is obviously larger than the party? The party is a subsection that is representative of the whole.

>The armed proletariat exists in place of soldiers and the military.
Those soldiers were just drafted proletarians, there's still no issue other than you arbitrarily deciding it's not good. You are such a fucking idealist to the core man, it's crazy

>Yes. Another organization separate from the proletariat, another organization that ended up stabbing over the proletariat.
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>>2893668
Let us continue with what I am writing here:
>>2894496
>>2894503
Now responding to another opportunist who does not understand the supremacy of the proletarian class organized as a class in a distinct party independent of the bourgeoisie.
>>2894755
The First International, where Marx and Engels were involved, disagrees with you. Communists need a workers' party that is separate from the bourgeois parties. This way, the working class can gain political supremacy by spreading its ideas to create the dictatorship of the proletariat. It also prevents the masses from being co-opted to support the bourgeoisie.

<Against the collective power of the propertied classes the working class cannot act, as a class, except by constituting itself into a political party, distinct from, and opposed to, all old parties formed by the propertied classes.

<This constitution of the working class into a political party is indispensable in order to insure the triumph of the social revolution and its ultimate end – the abolition of classes.

<The combination of forces which the working class has already effected by its economical struggles ought at the same time to serve as a lever for its struggles against the political power of landlords and capitalists.

<The lords of the land and the lords of capital will always use their political privileges for the defense and perpetuation of their economical monopolies and for enslaving labor. To conquer political power has therefore become the great duty of the working classes.
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>>2894529
people should be allowed to be anticommunist on /leftypol/ so long as they're acting in something resembling good faith. this site was at its best when we had unironic socdems and liberals alongside anarchists, syndicalists, ecologists, and various other moderately interesting weirdoes instead of the same generic hotchpotch of generic apologia for dead states, russia simping, contrarianism, and insular channer masturbation.

>>2894185
People that disagree dont even know Marx 101.
The problem with capitalism isnt that its le bad but that it fulfilled its historical purpose long ago and stubbornly clings to power in spite of its obvious decay.

>>2894194
And Che Guevara and Mao also

>>2892719
Are you taking that shit so they don't draft you to fight in Ukraine for Cucktin's sorry, Abramovichs mansions?

>>2891850
I always wondered why you care so much about victims of communism when you intend to surpass their kill count? Shouldn't you be praising them instead?

>>2892743
Didn't you hear? In communism there will be no wars, no states, no special bodies of armed men. These are the people calling others utopian btw.

>>2894341
>marxists are a laughing stock and fading rapidly into obscurity. Anarchism
Hows the weather in tel abib moshe?

Anarchism has been superceded by Communization anyways

>>2894447
>If you are a Marxist and you think there will be no hierarchies in communism, you are not a Marxist.
The opposite, actually.
>>2894448
Seethe

>>2894665
marx refuted egoism 200 years ago. stop speaking for what marxism is

>>2894141
I will become anarchist village rapist

>>2890999
I will become the October Road's strongest soldier the moment you actually have a successful revolution following that strategy. Until then, the October Road just just means not engaging in a revolution when there is an objective revolutionary situation worldwide. And no matter what subjective situation comes up, the followers of this strategy don't do anything to actually further the revolution. Modern security states in the first world will obliterate any organisation that isn't militant. PPW is the only practical solution.

>>2891065
UYGHA THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU.
THE OCTOBER REVOLUTION HAS MATERIAL PROOF.
THE 'UNIVERSALITY' OF THE PROTRACTED PEOPLE'S WAR DOES NOT.
WHY ARE YOUR LOT ADVOCATING IT, STARTING INTERNATIONALS, YET NOT PUTTING IT INTO PRACTICE? GO ON.

>>2891065
the absolute state of western leftism. fundamentally unserious people

>>2894325
You say that like western rightists are serious people

>>2870574
a significant chunk of human war history is something like
>i will stop catapulting your plague-riddled peasantry into the town square and having my men shit into every water source when you surrender
>also when you surrender i will pour molten lead down your firstborn son's throat to remind you not to use poor grammar when you write letters to me

>>2842692
They're all communist because thhe Democrat Party is being takin over by the Democrat Socialists. Trump is absolute good. The Democrat Party is absolute evil. The Democrat Party advocates veganism, 15-minute cities, DEI, ESG, mandatory vaccination, banning fossil fuesl, banning all guns, transgender in schools, eating bugs, Sharia law in America, men in womens sports and other communist policies all over America. The Democrat Party was going to create another plandemic with the CCP to take over America and but Trump and RFK Jr. stopped them. The Democrat Soaialists are a front for muslims and communists that want to take over America and make it like CCP China. Trump is going to win the Midterms and stop the communist Pedocrats. The Ten Days of Darkness is coming. Trump is King. God will prevail. Satan will lose.

They gonna have ICE piggers guarding voting stations

Trump is obscenely unpopular so it should be a blue wave unless Trump rigs everything. Which granted is a high possibility.
But if Trump was smart he would let the blue wave happen because the Dem leadership is too weak to impeach him or even really challenge his power beyond small nuisances. If he obviously rigs it, then it will piss a lot of people off and lead to instability. Maybe he wants instability but it would not work out well for him or his fascist friends.

Donald Trump should cancel the elections and become God Emperor for life

>>2893920


i mean its known that they are bussing immigrants in to get people to vote for the extreme left canidates right?

>>2888312
Said that wrong, I don't think they are uniquely revolutionary along with the working class, I don't think they could ever be the driving force because only the working class has the direct need to end exploitation, but I think unclassed people are much more 'revolutionary' than even the peasants are.

Without the cultural revolution there will be no socialism. Sorry!

>>2886812
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>>2886819
How nice of you ""communists"" to self-report that you take communism so unseriously you literally can't even imagine it, or what it would take to establish it.
>""Left"" ""com""
As if I ever doubted it.

>>2888612
Squeaker

daltonite in the chat lmao

so misunderstood

>>2893005
Hitlerian marxism in practise

it was wonderful

you joke op but i'm waiting for the moment when people here start unironically defending imperial japan

/pol/ is getting desperate

Treasury curtails reporting rules for shell companies
The move is the latest example of how it's becoming harder to get information about the financial system, even as the ascendance of AI makes it seemingly easier to learn anything you want to know. The rule is part of the Corporate Transparency Act, passed with bipartisan support at the end of President Trump's first term as part of a larger defense bill.
https://www.axios.com/2026/08/14/treasury-shell-disclosure-financial
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2893186.html

American Red Cross declares national blood supply crisis.
“Following our first-ever national blood crisis in 2022, we put additional safeguards in place to help prevent a crisis like that from happening again. But this summer, blood donations simply are not keeping pace with hospital demand, and inventories — especially type O blood — remain under significant strain. Every donation has the potential to help save lives, and we urgently need everyone who is eligible to make an appointment to give blood as soon as possible," said Chris Hrouda, president of Red Cross Biomedical Services.
https://www.ksbw.com/article/red-cross-blood-supply-crisis-donate-blood/73428343

Massive egg recall in US south and south-west due to salmonella outbreak
A massive egg recall affecting nearly 1.6m dozeuyghs has been elevated to the US Food and Drug Administration’s highest-risk warning as officials investigate a salmonella outbreak that has sickened nearly 100 people. The FDA on 12 August reclassified the recall of nearly 1.6m dozen white and brown cage-free eggs over concerns they may be contaminated with salmonella.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/15/egg-recall-us-south-and-south-west-salmonella-outbreak

64-year-old man dies in police custody after medical emergency, NYPD says
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>>2893197
>https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2893186.html
i think you meant
https://archive.ph/1nQ9z
anyways TYBNA!

>>2893199
Thanks anon

The Pointlessness of Nigel Farage
What is culture’s most potent image of pointlessness? There’s Sisyphus rolling a boulder up a hill, only for it to tumble back down again. Or Escher’s staircases, ascending and descending without end. But perhaps we can now add to the lexicon ‘Farage’s byelection’ – a foregone conclusion, seeing as he was always going to win, against a novelty candidate that was intended to stall an investigation into political donations that will now simply pick up where it left off. Well, at least we all had fun along the way. As you may recall, Nigel Farage resigned in a fit of pique, as he faced mounting scrutiny over his finances. A parliamentary standards investigation had been launched into whether he should have registered a £5m gift from crypto billionaire Christopher Harborne, alongside fresh allegations about undeclared support from George Cottrell; an illegitimate campaign cooked up by the brahminical class of Westminster elites, if you take Nigel’s word for it. A “people versus the establishment” byelection (except none of the established parties contested it).
https://novaramedia.com/2026/08/14/the-pointlessness-of-nigel-farage/

Hate in the World’s Borough: How the Far-Right Has Flourished in Queens, New York
Queens natives have played major roles in the recently resurgent far-right movement. For example, the alt-right celebrity Joseph Jordan (pseudonym “Eric Striker”), born in the largely Asian and Latino neighborhood of Flushing, has co-hosted a white supremacist podcast, written for the neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer, and participated in the Unite the Right rally. According to a 2019 Southern Poverty Law Center report, Jordan’s parents both have Latin American names, and his family still lives in Flushing. Robert Rundo, co-founder of the Rise Against Movement (RAM), a violent white nationalist group with deep connections to the broader neo-Nazi movement, is also from Flushing. Before RAM, Rundo was in a gang called the Original Flushing Crew when he stabbed a member of an MS-13 affiliate. To produce and distribute clothing and music, RAM started the company Will2Rise, which has provided Queens contact information. Will2Rise now makes merchandise for Active Club, an international movement in which Rundo began to train white supPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2893186
thanks

>>2891695
I want something for nothing, I inherently deserve to have treats without working because it is my human right.

>>2891695
>a "post-industrial society"
It means "we have neo-colonies to do the dirty stuff for us".

>>2893113
It seems only liberals are capable of revolution (so far)

>>2893154
Porkies would export service jobs if they could.

>>2893279
they do (a huge chunk of consultancies have massive numbers of workers in india etc), but people just cascade into more service jobs. that's the beauty of services. human wants are nearly infinite.

>>2893464
Okay but where does Marx or Lenin explain why this is best done under an "internationalist" EU and NATO? If they installed Banderites, then they don't want Ukraine as part of their "project".

>>2893468
>Okay but where does Marx or Lenin explain why this is best done under an "internationalist" EU and NATO?
why can't it be? and nobody said it was 'best done'
>If they installed Banderites, then they don't want Ukraine as part of their "project".
whys that? are you saying the west has no Designs on Ukraine? Have you seen trumps rare earth deposit purchase in the eastern regions yet?

>bots gone wild

What Russian thing exploded?

>The largest metallurgical plant in Ukraine, ArcelorMittal Krivoy Rog, working for the Ukrainian military-industrial complex, announced a partial suspension of production after strikes by the Russian Armed Forces.

>The main production facilities of energy and blast furnace production were damaged.
Largest* after Donbass regions were absorbe into Russia.

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>>2893548
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