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Dear leftists you either with western progressive or your problematic gooner pedophilia Chuds goons and sexually objectifying women and children. I will tell you one thing boycott all eastern games and buy progressive games, otherwise your a Manarcho Brosocialist Pedophilic scum!

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people will complain that movies no longer feature regular looking people and all actors are supermodels, then when regular looking people are added they complain that there are no supermodels

you can never please the outrage crowd

>>2834705
I buy my game based on gameplay I enjoy, not culture war shit



 

After 1989, Western elites congratulated themselves on entering a “post-ideological” age. With the great twentieth century battles between fascism, communism, and liberal-democratic capitalism over and the latter ascendant, politics would be confined to debating pragmatic solutions to technical problems. We are hearing rather less of this kind of commentary today. Over the past decade, the rise of populism on the right and radical identity politics on the left has signalled the return of a more openly ideological political style.

What this narrative leaves out is that the embattled consensus of the Western establishment is also underpinned by a powerful ideology—albeit one that denies its ideological character, hiding behind claims to be merely implementing the rules. Despite the restless political contortions of the past decade, it remains the default mode of state institutions and other large organizations.

This ideology is technocratic managerialism. Despite the populist revolt that has swept across the West, it remains deeply embedded in organizations governed by bureaucratic-managerial principles, whether corporations, government agencies, or international bodies. Because these organizations are still the primary units around which contemporary society is structured, their governing ideology remains deeply entrenched. Moreover, digital technologies and, increasingly, artificial intelligence, further reinforce its power. As social interaction and economic activity become dependent on digital platforms and applications, adherence to the rules of these platforms becomes the sine qua non of social participation. Those who design them are therefore in a position to engineer our shared reality, and they are doing so along managerial lines.

Managerialism is not just a set of techniques. It is underpinned by a set of beliefs about what human beings are and how social life should be arranged. Its baseline assumption is that all social phenomena are the outcome of measurable material processes. Social life is treated as analyzable and quantifiable, capable of being taken apart and put together again so that it works better. If something hasn’t been figured out yet, it will be in the future: We just need more data, more computing power, and more sophisticated modelling. The optimization of any social situation or process is simply a matter of finding and applying the correct technique.

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There's a case to be made that the rise of a technocratic managerial class in Yugoslavia, from late 60s onwards, essentially spelled out the doom for self-managed socialism and federalism. As the "old guard" died off, newly trained managerial class was the driving force that hacked away at the socialist policies and entrenched the regional federal bureaucracies (contrary to the Republican institutions), pawing the way for a civil war that was to come.
Almost all leaders of the 90s, both "conservative" (Milošević, Tuđman… etc.) and "progressive" (Marković) were born out of, or widely supported by, the professional managerial class that ossified in the upper echelons during the 80s.

I'm not saying one historical example necessitates that managerialism is functionally a collective suicide cult, but I'm personally inclined to say it's a suicide cult.

except the bourgeois are agaisnt a rationally managed government, otherwise literally every country on earth would be a social democracy, which is the most rational and efficient way to organise capitalisn. theyd rather cannibalise the nation to make a few quick bucks.



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Trump, Director of the Federal Bureau of Prisons, and Justice Department are trying to lower the threshold for executions, and also expand firing squards to "reduce prison overcrowding".
I think this is officially the start of a genocide.

>The announcement was the latest in a series of moves President Donald Trump’s administration has taken demonstrating support for the death penalty. Trump has long been an avid supporter of capital punishment, and during his first term, the Justice Department carried out its first federal executions in nearly two decades.


>Since Trump’s return to the White House last year, his administration has lifted a moratorium on federal executions and pushed for more death sentences. Trump and other officials have also repeatedly castigated President Joe Biden for commuting the sentences of 37 of the 40 people on federal death row shortly before he left office.


>In a bold and controversial move, William K. Marshall III, the newly appointed Director of the Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP), has proposed significant reforms aimed at addressing the pressing issue of prison overcrowding. Since his swearing-in on April 21, 2025, Marshall has advocated for a major lowering of the threshold for capital punishment and the expansion of firing squad executions.

>Marshall, who oversees approximately 156,000 federal inmates and 36,000 staff members across 122 BOP facilities, is no stranger to the complexities of law enforcement. His extensive career began with the West Virginia State Police, where he was lauded as the 1995 National Association of Police Organizations West Virginia Police Officer of the Year. Following his retirement in 2017 after 25 years of service, Marshall's leadership roles in corrections have uniquely positioned him to address issues plaguing the prison system.
>In a recent interview on NBC’s "Meet the Press," Marshall stated, "We need to reevaluate our approach to capital punishment and consider options that reflect the realities of our overcrowded prisons. By lowering the execution threshold and expanding firing squad executions, we can not only deter crime but also bring a sense of closure to the families of victims." He expressed a belief that the current process is often drawn out and unnecessarily complicated, contributing to the burden on Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2834629
Yeah, if it's just about speeding up already scheduled executions by bypassing the lack of availability of execution drugs, that could result in things speeding up, but not much since a lot of those people get years and years of appeals before an execution date, which is a much bigger factor than the method of execution. It also means only already scheduled executions would be carried out, which is not enough to make any difference in the incarceration rate in the first place.

Also, bring shot in the head might in fact be more pleasant than getting killed by that drug cocktail, because it's been shown that some people are still very awake and and aware by the time the potassium injection (painful) hits you. I don't know how quick a death by firing squad would actually be, though.

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>solving crime is le bad
>we should do nothing about the thousands raped and murdered
>it's actually capitalism making them do that, ignore the 98% of workers who never commit crimes
>noooo don't put rapists and murderers in prison, if you actually solve problems no one will care about us leftists

Do leftiggers really?

>>2834667
Ok! let's start it off with the Chomo-in-Chief, faggot. :^)

>>2834667
I'm am all for putting you retards into gulags and reeducation camps tho. Maybe after a few years you'll learn to stop worshiping pedo billionaires.

>>2793492
We already have a containment thread for this.
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Honestly, why people treat Marx as some kind of religious figure? Every time I interact with a leftist that go nut when you criticize Marx, why? Why the dogmatism around Marx? It's genuinely confusing to me, I read that the vast majority of modern economist doesn't even care for Marx and treat him as a historical figure, they still say people still try to make economics idea out of outdated ideas of Marx. Anyway, my main point is: will the left move on from Marx someday or they will forever trap under marxism? Why leftist are so dogmatic?
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>>2826623
>leftist that go nut when you criticize Marx
Probably your criticisms are ignorant and you didn't read or understand Marx.

>>2826623
Marx was fairly brilliant philosopher. He was immortalized by Lenin and the legacy of the soviet union/xx century for better or worse. You could stand to read him sometime.


>>2827139
The Great Karl hath spoken.

Because people believe in what they want to believe, and work their rationale to justify it, not the other way around. Mythical figures are easy enough to rally around that it's very effective as a post-fact explanation.



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can we get a thread going about the protests going on in albania right now ? i wanna know more about what's going on as a foreign retard and we seem to have no thread about it despite it going on for about a week at this point.


fuck your stupid limit, faggots
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I hereby irrevocably declare that:
1. The protests are a colour revolution
2. So was Lenin
3. Colour revolutions are therefore good actually
4. ¡Viva la revolución! Olé!

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>>2834210
>The country in the Balkans that hates NATO and doesn't have trouble with their communist past is Serbia.
That's not entirely true, though. Serbia has this nationalist četnik cult, which is pretty reactionary nad anticommunist.

>>2834507
the chetniks worked with the communists you fucking retard

>>2834523
They also worked with the Nazis.



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🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Aux armes, citoyens ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
Thread #2

French people deserve a safe space and guarantees for their continued existence on loser imageboards!

Français! Ne succombez pas à l'impérialisme anglochiotte!
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Mais vous êtes d'une mauvaise foi

J'aime pas les staliniens

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When I was a kid my parents wouldn't get cable and streaming services other than Netflix were not common at the time and I was stuck on Kids Mode so all I fucking had to watch where these weird-ass French Slap-stick cartoons. Accept for the Garfield one all of these French cartoons had no dialogue and the characters would only Grunt and Shit. Im not saying that these cartoons were bad, many of them were really solid, but everyone I went to school with had cable and would watch SpongeBob and shit and I felt so left out. So thanks France.

>>2834531
Oggy et les cafards!
You watched much superior shit to apongebob, yank, br happy, br grateful

>>2834574
Okay I didn't actually watch that much of Oggy & the Cockroaches, I saw a few episodes but I stretched the truth a little. I saw way more of the other 3 examples. Also come to think of it I don't know if the Garfield show counts as French because it was written and produced in the United States, they just outsourced the animation to France.



 

What us even up with these groups springing up everywhere lately? I know O9A is way older but these satanist criminal groups seem to be all the rage for weirdos with grudges against the world. What even is their ideology? What purpose do they serve? Do they have an endgoal? What are they trying to achieve? It seem to just be violence for the sake of violence and reading about them in depth made me even more confused than I was before and everything they say about themselves is completely incomprehensible. They seem to be nearly exclusuvely right wing or neo nazi which is a weird thing to attach satanism to. Can anyone ELI5 this shit for me?

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>>2833397
>>2833408
The capitalists have assets/wreckers in all sorts of movements, communities and mass organizations: organized crime, labor unions, Christian, Islamic, Indigenous, Black, Chicano, environmentalists, disabled, transgender, women's liberation and so on.

IMO it's mostly all tied back to oil. I still can't parse how the anti-trans stuff ties into fossil-fuels but IMO it's probably some fucked up Epstein kind of sex trafficking shit.

IDK religion and the occult are often used as a cover for the intelligence community. IMO drug and sex trafficking are side gigs. Human trafficking for farm work and other manual labor is probably more important.

It's just really boring organized crime which is the underlying factor IMO.

https://atmos.earth/political-landscapes/fossil-fuel-billionaires-are-bankrolling-the-anti-trans-movement
https://maia.crimew.gay/posts/brg
https://aristasia.guide/storms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kincora_Boys%27_Home

>>2833397
>O9A
I think of it as more of a subcultural offshoot of the older ONA/Order of Nine Angles. A lot of the older ONA are of the opinion that s good portion of the newer O9A types would be culled in a perfect world. I'm not super well-informed these days, but a lot of the other subcultural offshoots of the ONA (Tempel ov Blood, Current 218, Temple of THEM) operate differently and believe very different things and in some cases don't like each other. They don't necessarily have one coherent philosophy, but some are neo-Nazis and some are hyper-aggressive batshit insane transhumanists.
>764/CVLT/No Lives Matter/Maniac Murder Cult/etc.
Then these guys are just sadistic, nihilistic assholes who adopt ONA-type imagery to be lunatics. Some have Nazi-inspired beliefs and target minorities or other "undesirables", while others are just in it for the evulz.
>>2833408
Some of them are (Tempel ov Blood had a couple of notable instances) pussies who turned informant after getting caught, but I don't think most of them are run by the CIA or FBI or whatever. I think the feds consider them a top-tier threat.
>Could also be said asset getting out of control.
I'd be very surprised if anyone had these people under control.
>fed nicknamed “sandman” who groomed the Buffalo mass shooter into committing the terrorist act
That was probably less a brilliant masterstroke by an evil conspiracy of glowies to orchestrate a false flag attack and more a case of the FBI being a bunch of bumbling idiots and planning to arrest the guy after grooming him but before he committed an attack and fucking up it somehow.
>>2833416
I don't think that means much. Mentally ill and violent people have run-ins with the police all the time. I sure don't think the local police department orchestrated it. Cops tend to be Trump supporters.

>>2834517
<That was probably less a brilliant masterstroke by an evil conspiracy of glowies to orchestrate a false flag attack and more a case of the FBI being a bunch of bumbling idiots and planning to arrest the guy after grooming him but before he committed an attack and fucking up it somehow.
After reading up on this, I don't think this Sandman guy was a fed at all, just your garden-variety internet Nazi terrorist.

Are they even that prominent or do they just have aura?

>>2834533
The Nazi ones run or have associations with most of the more active and prominent neo-Nazi groups (The Base, Combat 18, Atomwaffen Division, Azov Batallion, and others) and are only going to become more prominent in the future the U.S. given the Trump administration officially calling the feds off of them to focus on South American street gangs and the deadly, violent, ISIS-tier international terrorist organization known as Antifa.
I'd say non-political Satanic cults that engage in low-level criminal activity are probably more common in Europe than they are here, even. At least in the U.S., there are now Satanic cults that are structured like motorcycle gangs without the motorcycles.
Temple or Set is also an extremely powerful organization in the sense that they've got a lot of members involved in the U.S. military industrial complex and sometimes run psyops regarding these other groups.



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  1. How would anarchists respond to the criticism that, over 150 years of organized anarchist thought (from Bakunin and the International in 1866 onward, or even Stirner before that), their analysis of exploitation has remained largely vague and general?
  2. How do anarchists explain the origins and development of exploitation? And how would they account for the evolution of society without relying on concepts like class struggle and the dictatorship of the proletariat as scientific tools?
  3. Are anarchists generally committed to social ownership of the means of production, or do they tend to favor small-scale production and some forms of private ownership? How would they address the claim that anarchism is just bourgeois individualism turned on its head?
  4. How do anarchists propose to organize and educate workers for class struggle while refusing participation in bourgeois political institutions? How would they avoid offering what critics call one‑sided, disconnected fixes, especially when global coordination seems necessary and anarchism’s individualist tendencies may undermine it?
  5. How would anarchists respond to the observation that anarchism lacks a unified doctrine, elementary revolutionary teaching, or basic theory? How do they view the historical fragmentation of the workers’ movement often attributed to anarchist influence, and what can be learned from the short‑lived anarchist “state‑like” experiments?
  6. How would anarchists avoid the charge that rejecting bourgeois politics in practice ends up subordinating the working class to bourgeois politics—all under the guise of being “above” or “outside” traditional political action?
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>>2834474

Who cares what the panthers did. Black Panthers were hot headed larping adventurists who deviated from the CPUSA line. Look how that ended killed, jailed or long, sad lives of addiction and poverty. The end result of nihilism.

>>2834474
>Flawed as it was, without those nihilists and their war against the Tsar, there is no Lenin.
Okay? What point are you trying to make? Without Bakunin there is also no Marx? Yeah, some things are reactions to other things?

>>2834474
>The Russian nihilist movement was unpolished ore from which Russian revolutionary Marxism was smelted.
Not really. Emancipation of Labor was influenced mostly by western (SPD) ideas. Again, Lenin was a Kautskyite up to 1917.

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>>2834484
>Not really. Emancipation of Labor was influenced mostly by western (SPD) ideas.

The objection, while factually pointing to the influence of the SPD on the Emancipation of Labour group and Lenin's pre‑1917 alignment with Kautsky, mistakes a quantitative influence for the qualitative rupture that defines Leninism. Materialist dialectics does not deny the importation of Western Marxist theory into Russia; it demands an analysis of why that theory was received so violently and what pre‑existing subjective conditions allowed it to take root in a semi‑feudal empire. The answer is the nihilist tradition.

The Marxist historian Vladimir Brovkin confirms that "Lenin was the product of the nihilists, materialists, and propaganda by the deed of the 1860s and 1870s". His professional revolutionaries were not merely a copy of the SPD; they were an adaptation of the conspiratorial Narodnaya Volya (People’s Will) to industrial conditions. Again, Chernyshevsky’s novel What Is to Be Done?, a foundational text of Russian nihilism, was an “enormous impact” on Lenin, whose own pamphlet borrows the title. These are Lenin's own words.

You are correct that Lenin cited Kautsky as the ultimate authority in the pre‑war period, and that his organisational theory developed out of this period. This was the stage of absorption. Lenin consumed the SPD model, but the nihilist fire in his belly, the utter contempt for all legal niceties, the willingness to operate outside the law, the belief that a determined minority could impose its will on history, meant he could never be contained by it. When the SPD collapsed into chauvinism in 1914, many of the nihilist revolutionaries had later emerged as the Bolsheviks. The Black Panther Party understood this history, which is why they ended up being the first American publisher of Nechayev’s Catechism of a Revolutionist in 1969 citing it as a "program for 'merciless destruction'"

To put it in more simple terms, The Western influence on the Emancipation of Labour group is the theoretical aspect of lenin's development; the nihilist tradition is the practical and subjective aspect. Without the nihilist pre‑condition (the "unpolished ore"), Lenin would have remained a second‑rate Kautskyite professor. Without the Western Marxist import, the nihilists would have remained sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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The core problem is that most leftists even those steeped in Marxist theory misunderstand nihilism. They conflate it with despair, with passivity, with the abandonment of meaning. This is a bourgeois caricature. In reality, nihilism is not an ideology but a negation. It is a tool, a scalpel that can be turned inward to excise the spooks of liberal morality, bourgeois sentimentality, and reformist illusion from the revolutionary subject. The result is not a hopeless individual but a stronger, more conscious, and more willful individual who can engage in collective struggle.

Friedrich Engels himself recognized this. In a November 1844 letter to Marx, Engels wrote that he was "entirely in agreement" with Max Stirner's radical egoism, praising "the noble Stirner" and suggesting that his dialectical egoism could serve as a "point of departure for communism." Stirner's philosophy, Engels argued, was essentially dialectical materialism turned inward, the same logic of contradiction and negation applied to the self rather than to society. When you strip away the spooks of God, State, Humanity, and Morality, what remains is the Unique, the creative nothing. And that Unique, in its raw self‑interest, recognizes that cooperation with others is the only way to achieve its own power. This is not a retreat from communism; it is its psychological precondition.

I have seen this process work in practice. Nihilism, properly wielded, can erode the liberal baggage that weighs down many anarchists; the moralism, the faith in "justice and democracy", the horror of power. When that baggage is cleared, what emerges is not a liberal reformer but a will to power, the will of the worker to become master of their own conditions. This is precisely why so many illegalist anarchists, who had already rejected bourgeois law and morality, ended up as Bolsheviks. Victor Serge, who participated in the Bonnot Gang's expropriations, later joined the Bolshevik revolution and became a committed communist. He did not abandon his hatred of the state; he recognized that the Bolshevik seizure of power was the most effective negation of the state yet achieved.

Nihilism, then, does not have to be the enemy of Marxism. It can be it's psychological complement. It clears the ground so that the revolutionary subject can be built without the illusions of bourgeois sentiment.



 

2026 WORLD CUP GENERAL
Location: Mexico, C*nada, US*
Starting on Thursday 11th June with Mexico vs South Africa.
I am worried that Burger police ruins it for the non-burger fans
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>>2834128
Jokes on you support england since 2006 despite not being english

>>2834128
thats why Im going to support argenSSimians

Bomp

>>2834128
>Superintendent, I hope you're ready for a final match between Italy and Brazil!
<I thought you said England was "coming home"
>Oh no I said it was coming to ROME!

>>2834573
>italy
Whos gon tell him



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A thread to share of what you think are your controversial opinons and takes, here mine:

- mass immigration is bad overall (I'm not against immigration per se, more like unfiltered immigration is quiet bad in my opinion)

-religion in general are bad, reactionary and backwater, and trying to "fuse" religion and left leaning politics are bound to fail because both doesn't mix well

-"liberal" eugenics is mostly right and should be mass adopted

-China is actually a trying a form of modernize socialism with end goal of becoming a full fledged socialist nation when they exhaust the market-capitalism form of relation in the country

-North Korea is a abomination of socialism

-Supporting Russia is stupid because Putin is nowhere near close to be a support of socialism and progressive politics and is just a form of support imperialist politics by because isn't western somehow is good, it's like supporting japanese imperialism back in the WW 2 era isn't western
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>>2833091
>1.70 to 80 percent of the world have always been, are and will be always be queer, mainly bi. Actually half of people are secretly bi. They don't know it or repress it.

It's always shocking to me how common sexual solipcism is among bi people, even more so than among straights, you would think it was the opposite but no.

The online left is a liability and the left needs to touch grass and kick out the incels and femcels if they refuse to log off and get black in touch with reality

>>2704163
Based
>>2704175
Based
>>2752892
Based (also philoosophy lmao)
>>2762669
Peak based
>>2762766
Peakest based

If I had to give a controversial opinion it would be that prostitution needs to be legalized. Idk if that’s controversial or not but I never see it discussed outside of lgbtq/bdsm circles.

>>2833861 (me)
>black in touch

I was gonna be mad at autocorrect but this in fact an improvement

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>>2705142
>The tight bond between Israel and the Five Eyes nations isn't about shadowy control and blackmail; it's structural kinship



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