/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

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>>2791011
You should read Marx. You would be surprised to learn that it's "civil society" that determines the structure of the state and not viceversa.

>>2791104
Materialism out of your ass may say that the state determines civil society, but a little Marx would show you that's an idealistic form of materialism. That is, it would be materialism just as in an arbitrary name for a given doctrine. Because how can an account of the state be materialist if it doesn't even consider the most fundamental material aspect of its form and activity, which is the production process that enables all members of society to sustain their life? Your doctrine of the state is idealistic precisely because it hypostatizes a "separate" state capable of shifting the tides of matter in motion, as an external and independent autonomous arbiter beyond the concrete structure of society. And the concrete structure of society, let me tell you, is not the state. It would actually be much closer to te truth to assert it of ancient states rather than modern ones, which is the completely the opposite of what you said earlier. So we come full circle in your assertion and reach a complete contradiction: the dictatorial Lenin who tries to bring the working class to power is still in itself less dictatorial than your own position on what the state is and does: dictate the form of society. If your lenin and your communist party was even true (history shows they were far from a despotic leader and party), they would be your perfect political ideal, a man and a party capable of using the determinant position of the state to shape society from the top down. But that's not what bolshevism was and that's not what the state is and does.

The birth of modernity is precisely the advent of bourgeoise class domination, which generated completely new political structures and a new form of state. You can see it in the glorious revolution, American indipendence and french revolutions, which would have absolutely no sense without accounting for the empowerment of a new class, the bourgeoise, and a new legislation and state form to fit their interests. What need has the feudal lord for the Napoleonic code? They can clean their ass with it, they subsist with the tribute and rent collected from subjects, spoils of war and etc. It is only with the growth of commerce and production, both activities which the bourgeoise advanced to an efficency never before seen, that a universal law resembling a commercial pact between separate, antisocial competitive Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2800360
quads are ez on slow board. we only stand for all same digits

>>2791074
wasn't gonna happen. people attribute his strokes to kaplan's bullets, but really his dad had strokes at the same age, so it was probably a hereditary issue.

>>2830682
>>2830697
Pedestrian?

>>2830705
Bentham did like walking for 2 hours every morning.

>>2830697
https://columbia.edu/cu/lweb/eresources/exhibitions/sw25/bentham/

Yeah its possible it could be him defending gays because there wasnt a word got them yet.

>>2830723
< Bentham advocates the decriminalization of' sodomy, which in his day was punished by hanging. He argues that homosexual acts do not "weaken" men, or threaten population or marriage, and documents their prevalence in ancient Greece and Rome. Bentham opposes punishment on utilitarian grounds and attacks ascetic sexual morality.
hmmmm

>>2830723
I mean, gay and pederast are the same thing since pederasty across the world was the normative form of human homosexuality up until the 1970s

>>2829868
May 68. De Gaulle was the left wing leader fighting against the forces of the réaction, but we were too naive to see it.

>>2829862
>on very rare occasions
>the majority
???
>>2829926
the PCF was just unfortunately an URSS puppet with only people that didn't want to be responsible for any decision at the top (which is most leaderships in general)

>>2830001
"On rare occations the majority of marxists" So most marxists can make a mistake, but thats a very rare event.

I'm not really blaming the PCF for the mistakes there, but with hindsight, De Gaulle was a progressive leader with a planned dirigist economy and an independant foreign policy, May 68 broke this down and brought foward neoliberalism and alignement with the USA. PCF should have pushed de Gaulle to the left and empowered left wing gaullism.

>>2829890
IN SOME RESPECTS.
The Nazis were overall far worse than the Khmer Rouge and were obviously more Right-Wing than them. However, the Khmer Rouge's belief in deindustrialization placed them, on that specific issue, to the Right of the Nazis.
>>2830001
The majority OF THE MARXIST MOVEMENT.
>>2830006
Correct

>>2830772
>Pol Pot was le heckin primitivist
Another classic from the US propaganda machine.

ask deepseek

>>2830846
I thought I'd try the less intelligent corner of the internet first

>>2830798
There is already the political economy thread

We have /political economy/ #7 for this
>>2816172

How a Gaza-bound aid convoy unravelled attempting to enter Haftar-controlled eastern Libya

More than 200 activists with the Global Sumud Convoy entered the 5+5 security zone near the Libyan city of Sirte, a contested area established under the country’s October 2020 ceasefire agreement, hoping to negotiate safe passage onwards to Gaza.
After days encamped inside the zone, armed forces arrived at the site and dismantled the convoy.
Most participants were forcibly escorted back to Tripoli under armed guard. Ten international activists, however, were detained and remain in Libyan custody. The detainees are from Spain, Poland, the United States, Argentina, Uruguay, Portugal, Tunisia and Italy.
Eastern Libya is controlled by Haftar and his allies, and is backed by the United Arab Emirates and Egypt, while a UN-backed government in Tripoli governs the west of the country.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/how-gaza-bound-aid-convoy-unravelled-haftar-controlled-eastern-libya

'A big pact': How the US plans to unite Libya through two ruling families

The US is crafting an agreement to unify oil-rich Libya around the country’s two most powerful families, as the US-Israeli war on Iran chokes global energy flows, current and former western officials, Arab sources briefed on the matter, and analysts told Middle East Eye.
The power-sharing agreement seeks to unify Libya through the Dbeibeh family in western Libya and the Haftar family in the east, while replacing each family’s leaders with a new generation.
While the effort has been underway for some time, it has gained new focus as the war on Iran sends oil prices higher, drawing US energy companies back to the country with Africa’s largest proven oil reserves.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/big-pact-how-us-plans-unite-libya-through-two-ruling-families

US lobby firm secures $2m contract to whitewash image of Libya’s Haftar

A US lobbying firm closely connected to the Trump administration has been handed a $2m contract to represent Khalifa Haftar, a Libyan warlord and de facto leader of large swaths of the country who faces multiple allegations of human rights abuses.
Lobbying disclosure agreements reported by the Washington Post revealed that Ballard Partners, which is staffed by former Trump administration officials, has agreed to advance the interests of Haftar, general commander of his self-styled Libyan Arab Armed Forces (LAAF), and his son Sadddam, chief of staff of the ground forces.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-lobby-firm-secures-2m-contract-whitewash-khalifa-haftars-image

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The June 1st Breakthrough: The day history was rewritten.
The June 1, 2004 Offensive was far more than a simple military operation in the history of the Kurdish Freedom Movement; it was a decisive turning point in philosophical, strategic, and ideological terms. Officially announced by the People's Defense Center Headquarters after a five-year unilateral ceasefire, this move was a comprehensive and planned response to the liquidation process created by the 1999 international conspiracy.

Between 1999 and 2004, global powers and the Turkish state implemented a large-scale liquidation strategy, effectively considering the movement "finished." Unilateral ceasefires, withdrawals, peace offers, and calls for dialogue were systematically rejected by Ankara.

During this period, policies of cultural genocide, village evacuations, intense military operations, and political repression continued uninterrupted. Internally, liberal and liquidationist tendencies weakened the organizational structure from within, while internationally, efforts to redefine the Kurdish people as a passive and submissive element accelerated.

June 1, 2004, was a courageous and decisive step taken precisely in the face of this challenging double siege. It was a historic move that pulled the movement out of disarray and reorganized it, preserving commitment to the Leadership paradigm and initiating a new period of struggle.

Following this breakthrough, and with the definitive abandonment of the classical state-power-centered understanding of revolution, Rêber Apo's democratic, ecological, and women's liberation paradigm officially took shape in 2005 and was systematically implemented across a wide geographical area.

The guerrilla approach, moving away from the goal of establishing a state or creating a new mechanism of oppression, has focused on strengthening society's capacity for self-governance, developing democratic autonomous structures, and protecting ecological balance. The aim is not to seize power, but to organize society in non-state spheres, build democratic confederalism from the bottom up, and offer a concrete, viable alternative to the problems created by both real socialism and capitalist modernity.

This paradigm shift, along with the process following the June 1st Uprising, has made it one of the unique revolutionary models of the 21st century.

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British soldier killed in training exercise accident in northern Iraq
>A British Army soldier was killed in a training exercise in northern Iraq on Sunday, the Ministry of Defence has announced.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62dygprnnvo

'training accident'

‘Commune organization constitutes a fundamental pillar of our system in Maxmur’
Speaking to ANF, Maxmur Democratic People’s Council Co-Chair Nüdem Yaman provided information about the activities carried out by the communes within Martyr Rustem Cudi Camp in southern Kurdistan (northern Iraq).

Drawing attention to Kurdish leader Abdullah Öcalan’s “Call for Peace and Democratic Society,” Nüdem Yaman stated that following the call, the people of Maxmur Camp have been acting on the basis of Öcalan’s ideas, philosophy, and the system he proposes.

<‘The commune is a fundamental pillar of our system’
Referring to the commune system envisioned by Öcalan, Nüdem Yaman stressed that commune organization constitutes a fundamental pillar of their system.

“Leader Öcalan always emphasized the following: ‘Why are communes important? Why do we focus on communes? What level should the communes reach?’ Through his books and manifestos, the Leader has presented this as a way of life to all peoples of the world, especially the Kurdish people,” she said.

Recalling that the commune system has a much deeper historical foundation than capitalism and hegemonic structures, Nüdem Yaman noted that over time the commune system had been distanced from its original essence and added: “Leader Öcalan wants the commune system to return to its true essence. The very meaning of a commune comes from gathering together; through it, society comes together and discusses its problems. History also provides examples of this. One of them is the Paris Commune. Although it did not survive for long, Leader Öcalan benefits from its experiences and adopts them as a guiding line.”

<‘The People’s Council began reorganizing the communes’
Stating that the Maxmur People’s Council launched a process aimed at the education, organization, and reconstruction of communes following Öcalan’s “Manifesto for a Democratic and Communal Society,” Nüdem Yaman explained: “A process of approximately three months was carried out. During this period, homes were visited in order to organize the communes, and discussions were held with the people and with individuals. Discussions were also conducted with experienced and elderly members of society. Eventually, neighborhood meetings were organized, local administrations were elected, commune centers (komîngeh) were establishePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2829924
I think it's more a divide-and-rule strategy although the IDF is engaged in organized and collective murder in Gaza, but Israel + occupied territories combined is more like if Lebanon was half-Jewish and they exercised much more effective military / police control over the land than the Maronite Christians were able to do. More than 20% of Israel (pre-67 borders) is Arab. This isn't to be like "well it's not actually what people think" but they want to keep the Arabs inside the pre-67 borders from blowing up. These are Arab communists in Nazareth (which is in Israel technically).

>>2829924
>Why dont they just kill all palestinians?
Would create a backlash so they do it slowly.

>>2829931
Both internal and external propaganda ops.

>>2830266
What backlash?

>>2829924
It's not quick nor easy to dispatch of millions of people without employing nuclear weapons, which would render the territories useless

>>2829984
We need a new blues clues show. Call it… green beans

>>2829837
>The Bolsheviks and Mensheviks agitated among the conscripts not volunteers
they obviously did both retard

Platner supposedly has PTSD; do you think it's possible to exploit this weakness and induce a psychotic episode, ideally cause him to commit suicide?

>>2828689
>God dad bods are fucking disgusting man.

you should probably make peace with it because statistically speaking you will almost certainly eventually have one

you know someone is a danger to zionism when chuck schumer approves him, feels good not falling for anti-platner hasbara like dumb ultras do :)

>>2830642
Has this guy only got one arm?

>>2823778
both common terms. Read Lenin

>>2823787
>we could very well see European forces on Canadian territory defending against america
That seems very unlikely seeing as they don't even appear to have the stomach to defend their own territory in Greenland. But even in that case I would still argue against revolutionary defeatism. A socialist revolution in Canada without one in the US would be pointless. It would be swiftly crushed. America needs to become socialist before Canada can even think of it, and that would be far more likely in the event of an US defeat. This would do a lot more to help socialism in Canada than a Canadian defeat would, since the latter would just mean we're absorbed into a new anti-communist regime and have achieved precisely nothing.

If the US were to invade it would be the job of L
Albertian communists to destroy the oil reserves, after all thats what the Americans want

Bump

Very good video about this dude, I encourage everyone interested to watch it

>>2828050
Meds. Now.

He was the last social Democrat and they killed him for it.

>>2830205
Xi did this for Rosa.

>>2830263

Xi/xer, or however the 2010s social progressivism is strawmanned…