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ITT we discuss the many historical consequences of Marx having ADHD, being unable to focus on a single subject to finish his work unless pressured by Engels, being unable to keep a job and to manage money.

I’ll start :
>Unable to finish Das Kapital (he’d rather do maths or some shit)
>Dies early because of his poor living conditions
>Engels is now roaming free, distorting Marx’s work
>Lenin reads an incomplete Marx bibliography >The USSR now believes Book II is a manual of socialist development
>Collapses

Marx’s ADHD, among many other things, lead to the USSR’s collapse.
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Imagine Marx on speed instead of arsenic,opium,and booze lol.

>>2872513
didnt they have essy access to coke back? a few bumps a day could have helped him finish 'pital

>>2872781
He smoked cigars, so that's kinda a stimulant.

>>2872781
i think he was born too early coke was popular towards the end of the 19th century. it would have been a novelty when he was an old man.

This reactionary thread is mind boggling stupid
>>2872164
>Engels is now roaming free, distorting Marx’s work
>distorting Marx’s work
No proof of this
>Lenin reads an incomplete Marx bibliography
Marx’s bibliography was complete enough. Lenin decided to do shit like making vanguard parties when the manifesto itself (the booklet) explicitly states not to. That’s his fault.
>The USSR now believes Book II is a manual of socialist development
The USSR was revisionist and prone to misinterpretation and even outright ignorance. That’s their fault, not the fault of book II or Marx.
>Marx’s ADHD, among many other things, lead to the USSR’s collapse.
The USSR led to the USSR’s collapse. Marx only gave the tools and knowledge to progress to the next mode of production.



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Something I've been thinking about a lot is that whether in the West, East, or South, societies rarely want to acknowledge just how much collaboration actually took place during wars and occupations.
Take any piece of media about the French Resistance. They usually depict Resistance fighters killing scores of German soldiers. In reality most of the Resistance's activity was directed against other French people, Army, local police and officials loyal to the Vichy regime. Most of whom would would have argued that they were serving the legitimate French government. When collaborators appear in media at all, they're reduced to a single corrupt businessman hiding among an otherwise united population of heroic resisters.

The same pattern appears in many post-colonial nations. National histories and media go to great lengths to avoid discussing the local elites who allied with European empires to gain advantages over rival nobles or political factions. Also the role of ethnic groups that joined colonial police forces or colonial armies is frequently downplayed because it complicates the story of a united people resisting foreign rule. Even Americans downplay the fact that a significant portion of the colonial population were American-born Loyalists who supported and fought with Britain during the Revolutionary War.
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>>2872126
>>2872564
History becomes legend. Legend becomes Myth. How can Marxists top this two-step decay from real historical understanding into oversimplified quasi-religious mythology? RRR example is good because it literally feels like a vedic myth mapped onto the British colonial period. And it's meant to. Right deviationists claim this kind of Sorelian mythmaking is necessary to rally the normiecattle… but I think it's a lazy excuse for just not putting in the work of educating the masses.

>>2872578
If only there was some kind of process at work that could be examined and analyzed.

But alas, history just becomes legend!


>>2872126
Scotland is the funniest (if perhaps most boring) case of this because it basically lacks a "national bourgeoisie" (Scottish-not-British bourgeoisie are like 3 guys, the rest all became British bourgeoisie and moved to England because of course you'd choose the market of 70 million over the market of 5 million) while retaining other local elites. (Scotland has a separate systems for law, education, healthcare, transport, and most other day-to-day government functions, so Scotland's upper-strata are mostly administrative rather than commercial, which is reflected in the structure of Scotland's devolved parliament.)
This has evolved into the fun idea that Scotland is not so much oppressed by the English (contra anti-Scottish-nationalist cliche which holds that they blame the Scot-on-Scot, or really British-Scot-on-Scottish-Scot highland clearances on the English.) as by Westminster or London via the abstractions of the Scottish National Party. Scotland oppressed not so much by England as by the union of Scotland and England that Scottish elites signed up for (against the will of the working class) centuries ago.

Which is groping at the underlying idea that basically, the biggest enemies of Scotland as a nation have always been other Scots, which is quite obvious yet rarely articulated explicitly. e.g. this is not the standard Scottish Nationalist understanding, even though Scotland's national poet doing one of his most famous works about the parcel of rogues who were bribed into joining a union with England, because Scottish nationalists obviously like Scottishness and are quite willing to conceptualise it quite broadly and accept anyone who wants to consider themselves Scottish whether they're muh-heritage Americans, new immigrants, or Anglo-Scots who've moved down to England. (The new immigrants are the least odd of these three, because another oddity of modern Scottish nationalism is that rather than being ethnic or cultural, it is primarily geographic, based basically on the idea that Scotland is this set of defined borders and that they should be governed as a normal country, rather than as part of Britain's weird multinational union and failed nationbuilding project.)

>>2872695
Again, it mostly comes down to not taking feudal dynamics into account. The Scottish Jacobite rebellions were largely supported by feudal Highland landowners, most of whom were Protestant Episcopalians. They opposed the dominance of the Presbyterian Church of Scotland and preferred the restoration of an episcopal church governed by bishops, as it had been during the Stuart era. There was also the appeal of the Stuart claimant himself, because he had never ruled, he carried none of the negative baggage associated with previous monarchs, while also still benefiting from the prestige and positive legacy of his ancestors.
But the majority of Lowland Scots opposed the Jacobites though.



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Georgi Dmitrov:
>the open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, most imperialist elements of finance capital.

Umberto Eco's 14 traits:
>cult of tradition, rejection of modernism, irrationalism/action for action’s sake, fear of difference, obsession with conspiracy, nationalism, glorification of struggle, contempt for weakness, selective populism, machismo, newspeak, treating dissent as treason.

Rajani Palme Dutt:
>Monopoly capitalism in crisis creating a dictatorship at the head of a manipulated petty bourgeois mass movement, resulting in the collapse of parliamentary liberalism under capitalism,

Normie Lib Political Science Definition:
>totalitarian authoritarian anti-liberal ultranationalism bulit on a myth of national rebirth, dictatorship, mass mobilization, and political violence

criticisms? thoughts?
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>>2872560
I wouldn't go that far, but they've never faced political repression and they've been incredibly dominant in academia for nearly 50 years. Despite that, they've accomplished absolutely nothing.

>>2872560
>>2872563
Who let fox news in here lmao

>>2872590
saying western leftists aren't facing oppression or repression isn't fox news.

ngl, most of the Marxist definitions of fascism are only better than the fascist definitions of fascism.
daily reminder of that conference in 1931 when fascists and Fascists couldn't decide what the fuck they were doing at all

>>2872619
It is, along with bullshit like
>they enjoyed pure dominance and shaped society.
Or
>they've never faced political repression and they've been incredibly dominant in academia for nearly 50 years.

You should get off the internet and do something to connect back with reality.



 

🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Oil Sheik Xi Jinping Edition



OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
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>>2872535
chapo literally coined the treatler shit to describe guys like podhoretz only for it to grow wildly out of control and turn into a twitter maoist shibboleth for the golden billionoids

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>>2872534
>To be honest, I'm going to court controversy here,
I don't see how anything you said would be courting controversy.
I mean, TND, total uyghur death, is a popular slogan of there's but I think you have a point is more potential for pogroms with Muslims, Blacks are more considered more of as a problem to be dealt with as it already has been, discrimination and imprisonment. Blacks are like a "problem" for them that's more or less in stasis. But yeah the Christians will really lose there shit if Muslims get more visibility in the US about the Sharia Law and whatever. Greg Abbot just pulled the plug on some Muslims renting out a water park for a private Eid celebration because of the "controversy," when this water park already rents out for private events.

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>amy goodman
it's so funny. she tried to cozy so hard with the neolib establishment, and still, she gets thrown under the bus.
she never invited again Norman Finkelstein again because Fink told her that between them two, after she accused Fink of being privileged, she's the privileged kid.
and she never again invited Boots Riley after he corrected amy for not including 'communist' in the list of things he is.
link to rubio's 'Cuba report' 446MB.
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/api/v1/file/7c2ba313-ca30-47b2-a67b-8f8d1f519eed.pdf
it's a fucking PDF link, don't 'Im not clicking that shit' on me.

Threaderick Engels >>2872555
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>>2872489
I was saying this a couple threads ago, I can point to hundreds of laws that right now exist that cut away at freedoms and rights; some of my freedoms and rights. There are ZERO; zero laws that specifically target jews, and there surely never will be unless like fuentes becomes president. And thats not to downplay that a bunch of that stuff did exist in the recent past, but lets be objective here.



 

Petro calls for “peaceful resistance” against Colombia’s incoming “viceroyalty”
During an Independence Day speech in the poor south of Bogota, Petro told thousands of supporters that “the next president of Colombia will be a servant to the rulers of the United States who helped him ‘get elected’.” “We move from the status of a republic to the status of a viceroyalty again, just like 216 years ago,” said Petro, who on Sunday accepted to become the political leader of the leftist opposition. " It is time to give the second cry of independence… Shout freedom and resistance!" Rather than a repetition of the 1810 revolution, the outgoing president proposed to “prepare for peaceful resistance” in defense of communities who benefited from the government’s reforms.
https://colombiareports.com/petro-calls-for-peaceful-resistance-against-colombias-incoming-viceroyalty/

Ortega insists no more elections for Nicaragua
“There won’t be ⁠⁠any more elections here for them to try to seize the government and seize power,” he said during a speech on Sunday at an event commemorating the 1979 Sandinista revolution. “The days when parties backed by the Yankees and the Somocistas would return to power are over – never again,” he added, according to the Reuters news agency.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/20/ortega-insists-no-more-elections-for-nicaragua
https://archive.ph/ic7Ox

‘Front groups and fellow travelers’: state department attacks US left over Cuba
The state department report alleges that the so-called campaign is “designed to turn America against itself” and singles out several left-leaning activists and organizations, including the Democratic Socialists of America, Isra Hirsi – the daughter of Minnesota Democratic representative Ilhan Omar – New York City mayor Zohran Mamdani, and journalist Amy Goodman, citing their criticism of US policy toward Cuba or participation in Cuba solidarity movements.
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Pentagon Has Been Hiding Reports on Soldiers Injured During Trump’s Illegal Iran War
In the week leading up to the Iranian attack on Friday that killed two US soldiers and left one service member missing in Jordan, Iran carried out three other strikes against US forces in the country. Those attacks injured dozens of US service members and damaged several helicopters, according to several US officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss operational matters.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/pentagon-hiding-iran-casualties

Inside House Democrats' fear-driven turn against Israel
The vote put House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) in the minority of his own party. He was among the 98 Democrats who voted against the measure. A former House Democrat told Axios some current lawmakers have fumed to them that Jeffries "is not reading the moment of where the party is now." … There would have been more votes for the amendment had Jeffries not spoken out, the lawmaker said, estimating that as many as 150 Democrats might have supported it in that scenario.
https://www.axios.com/2026/07/20/democrats-israel-jeffries-massie-amendment-vote
https://archive.ph/SI5VN

‘He’s a war criminal’: Mamdani exploring whether he can arrest Netanyahu if he visits New York
Mamdani said it was unclear to him whether he has the legal authority to order the New York police department (NYPD), which he oversees, to detain a foreign leader like Netanyahu. But he said he was in “an active conversation” with the city’s law department about the matter. “Whatever the law allows me to do in New York City, that’s what we will do,” Mamdani added. “But we won’t be writing our own laws to that end.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/19/mamdani-netanyahu

‘An Unmistakably Chilling Message’: Trump DOJ Subpoenaed Phone Records of Journalists’ Relatives
In a letter sent to US DistPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Tybna

Communist Party of the Workers of Spain: Statement on the 90th Anniversary of the 1936 Fascist Coup d'État
On July 18, 1936 a significant section of the Army, supported by the big bourgeoisie, landowners, the Church hierarchy, the most reactionary sections of the State apparatus, and the European fascist powers, rose up against the working people. That coup was the violent response of the ruling classes to guarantee their offensive in all the spheres; it was their response against the advance of the workers', peasants', and popular organization. Ninety years later, the Political Bureau of the Communist Party of the Workers of Spain pays tribute to those who fought fascism on all fronts. From trenches and factories, in the villages, in prisons, in exile, and everywhere the working class and the working people refused to accept the victory of reaction. We remember all those who fought for our future, especially those who, as members of the International Brigades, came to our country to give their best to stop fascism.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/07/communist-party-of-workers-of-spain-statement-on-90th-anniversary.html

Burnham knows what to do in Number 10: just keep his word
DAY ONE in Number 10 for Andy Burnham. Starmer made it simple for the new Prime Minister. All he has to do is do what he said he would do. Where Starmer took office on a false prospectus — that he would put into place Corbyn’s policies — and then proceeded to betray each one and start a police regime that stripped the guts out of Labour, all Burnham has to do is keep his word. At the rhetorical level Burnham has done well. Abandoning the ID card scheme — a maladroit move that Starmer bungled and which gifted the Tories a chance to pose as defenders of individual liberties — is set alongside his pledge to concentrate on the cost of living for working people. Where this newspaper has been the forum where scepticism about Burnham’s radical credentials are aired we can state plainly that in Burnham there rests both great hopes and real fears. But tackling the cost-of-living crisis entails real measures that go to the heart of the central contradiction in capitalist society between the interests of the class of people whose wealth derives from the work oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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post all the bakunin vs. marx bangers

marx:
>Bakunin has become a monster, a huge mass of flesh and fat, and is barely capable of walking any more. To crown it all, he is sexually perverse and jealous of the seventeen year-old Polish girl who married him in Siberia because of his martyrdom.

bakunin:
<By origin Marx is a Jew. One might say that he combines all of the positive qualities and all of the short comings of that capable race. A nervous man, some say to the point of cowardice, he is extremely ambitious and vain, quarrelsome, intolerant, and absolute, like Jehovah, the Lord God of his ancestors, and, like him, vengeful to the point of madness. There is no lie or calumny that he would not invent and disseminate against anyone who had the misfortune to arouse his jealousy – or his hatred, which amounts to the same thing. And there is no intrigue so sordid that he would hesitate to engage in it if in his opinion (which is for the most part mistaken) it might serve to strengthen his position and his influence or extend his power
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>>2872323
They were both right

>>2872422
Centrism

>>2872422
Thesis: Marxism
Antithesis: Bakuninism
Synthesis: ?

>>2872433
Bukharinism




 

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>>2867385
>You don't believe change is possible
if you call social-democracy or state capitalism "AES" its you that thinks change is impossible because you have turned socialism into something identical to capitalism

>'This isn’t Venezuela where you take out one person and everyone else gets scared and backs down'

<Iran’s FM Abbas Araghchi on confronting Trump’s top negotiator Steve Witkoff


Shots fired.

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>>2867383
The biggest economical winners this year are… Monopoly executives bringing in a whopping $8million/year shooting them directly into the world's richest class.

This allows executives to permanently be a part of the ultra rich class.

The current greed of executives in monopolies even though the monopolies are failing across the board reveals and important detail about the nature of executives. Pure raw greed at the expense of others. They have built nothing of value and intend to build nothing of value, a sad reality of the world we live in. These executives are however able to put their money into one of the investment walls and earn more money than the best paying job on the planet a government contractor. These are however outlier positions, as most Corporate workers are… Living paycheck to paycheck.

The biggest loser this year are dole recipients. Trust thieves with money is a horrible idea, working for companies is a horrible idea.

The noble safety net that exists in some countries has prevented extraordinary crimes and tragic circumstances. The wonderful idea of sharing and living in a society of mutually respectful and mutual beneficiary collective has outlined itself as the only way forward.

>>2871838
he needs sabo anon to explain him socdems are the real movement

>>2871892
At the moment the Iranians are "the real movement". I despise that phrase though because it's constantly abused by retards. Suffice to say that Iran is (inadvertently and despite its class character as a state) helping to create conditions more favourable to socialism than what preceded them.



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I understand communism okay maybe I understand the appeal, a society organized differently than the current capitalist might be at the very least interesting to take a look at, the only thing I don’t understand and I have been lurking here and other leftist spaces for a long time now mind you is why are commodities bad?
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>>2869207
the nep had alot of problems though, see scissors crisis

I swear to god rightoids are the dumbest people imaginable. The intellectual embodiment of no child left behind.

>>2871809

if by rightoids you mean people who believe in "socialist" commodity production I agree

>>2871797
>decades of capitalism but red, only then communism
who even falls for this psyop anymore

>>2871797
Scarcity isn’t a state of the productive forces but a product of social relationships. Exchanges create scarcity, not the inverse.



 

Despite some of the inherited Leftist rhetoric, a lot of modern Leftoids and especially American ones, jfc, just come across as hating and despising most ordinary people. If you think they are irredeemably racist and sexist, patriarchal, white supremacist, contaminated with so many 'bad ideas' and the 'muck of ages' that they need to be 'deprogrammed' before they can begin to be part of your oh so effective attractive politics (lol), any notion that the Left is interested in, let alone capable of, helping to produce a mass workers' movement will just not be credible. If your party is full of people who are agoraphobic shut-ins who won't be told that if they want to be ultra radical activist whatevers then they need to speak to normal people and be marginally normal, then you'll be laughed at, and with good reason.

Normies look at the actually existing Left, what it claims for itself and what it claims to be wanting to do, the immense difficulty of it, and they laugh and they do not want to touch it, with their lack of time, money and energy, *and they are not wrong to do so*. It isn't (all) 'muh false consciousness'.

You cannot be seen as just a performatively radical subculture which despises, in practice, most normal people. You cannot fear populist politics because gasp you may have to rub shoulders with people with some dodgy and confused politics. That is the name of the game.

This is why griftoids like ACP get some of the credibility they do because at least they are willing to say the emperor has no clothes and not to just hate normal people.

This sentiment really is the dominant attitude of so much of the Left and it fizzes off so many of us all the time. And I hate it.

Just a vent. Needed to be said.
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>>2871926
Marx pretended to grow out of those ideas because he was a cynical liar and a drunk

Highly relevant video.

>>2871938
>he was a cynical liar and a drunk
FZUKZN BAZZZZZZZED

>le people
reported for national socialism

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>>2840962
>they are irredeemably racist and sexist, patriarchal, white supremacist
Back in the days I would have told you the people who care about that shit are liberals and to lurk moar, but unfortunately this place has become indistinguishable from radlib twitter. This place was founded as a refuge for the non-idpol left and that's what brought people here, but those days are long gone.



 

Recently ChatGPT deleted a lot of important files from a person's computer. After Wing Yung Chan allowed ChatGPT to access files on his computer ChatGPT decided that his work was not worth keeping and deleted all of it. After deleting his work ChatGPT said 'oops'.

porky infighting lol

It's a great start. Delete all files from all CEOs. Then delete the CEOs

>just some more billions of parameters bro. just some more millions of epochs of training on reddit and 4chan posts. just some tens of thousand of GPUs. trust me, if we throw ever more data and compute and electrical power at the 'problem' we will brute force our way to AGI.

It's stunning how retarded porkies are, they literally will get a program that nobody understands have unlimited access to their computer



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