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I have seen this retardation spammed all over the place because of austrian economic loons however it always did feel so retarded.

I think this is the most condensed example of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI3OH4QO5JY

Basically it becomes more and more retarded until you end up
>What about captain america?
>And captain america not fighting Thanos in my MCU?!
>communism and money can not exist!

That was always a incredibly retarded argument and I do not understand how the viewers of this trash are not dying of cringe.

Did people make debunking of this """"logic"""" because the video is pure insanity. The truth is that there is no such thing as central planning.
>Herp derp how do we produce things? How many of them?!
How does the factory do it now?
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>capitalism is when market
>communism is when no market
I'm convinced ancaps don't actually know what capitalism is. like you will unironically hear "that wasn't real capitalism" from ancaps all the time
>>2933920
>muh inefficiency
>state-capitalism
>stagnation!
pick up a book, retard

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>>2933917
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>2933917
><Epic debunking of the army everyone!
><How can 1 guy decide what position of every finger ever soldier must have?!
><Ha no one can do that!
><IMPOSSIBLE! GENERALS DEBUNKED!
this but unironically

>>2934439
>The ECP and information problem aren't about how to know what to produce, it's how to allocate it and how to make this allocation efficient.
You must understand that you have schizophrenia. Literally nothing you have written makes any sense whatsoever it is literally incoherent babbling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

>>2934918
These colors are also the flag of the Kashubians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashubians



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Student-led Serbian movement ousts right-wing leader Aleksandar Vucic in seismic win
Mr Vucic told supporters at his party’s election night event in Belgrade: “It is now clear that we have lost and the Students’ List has won,” though he blamed the media, alleged interference by unnamed European countries and the “American deep state” for the loss. Radomir Saicic, a Students’ List candidate, said “tonight is not just about results. “It is about people who believed and continued to fight,” he said. “This is a victory over fear. It is nobody’s trophy, it is a citizen’s victory. But victory carries responsibility.”
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/student-led-serbian-movement-ousts-right-wing-leader-aleksandar-vucic-seismic-win

Berlin’s Plan to Take Back Homes Will Cost Europe’s Biggest Landlord £7bn
Die Linke, which won Berlin’s state elections in September, has agreed to talks with the city’s Greens and Social Democrats as part of plans to transfer ownership of flats from companies that own more than 10,000 apartments, with the legislation scheduled to be brought forward in 2028. Any apartments owned above that 10,000 threshold would have to be transferred into public ownership as part of the policy, with Die Linke proposing an average compensation of around €100,000 per apartment – around 40% below the market value.
https://novaramedia.com/2026/10/23/berlins-plan-to-take-back-homes-will-cost-europes-biggest-landlord-7bn/

‘Still Just a Child’: The Russian Teenagers Fighting and Dying in Ukraine
The pro-war Orthodox Christian VKontakte group Synodik, which has about 50,000 followers, carries dozens of obituaries for soldiers who were teenagers when the invasion began. In Orthodox Christianity, a synodik is a list of names of the living or the dead who are remembered in prayers and church services. Likewise, Synodik’s members pray for Russian soldiers like they would in a real church. The comments, mostly posted by women, are filled with Orthodox prayers, animated images of icons and cross emojis.
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>>2940446
>“It is now clear that we have lost and the Students’ List has won,” though he blamed the media, alleged interference by unnamed European countries and the “American deep state” for the loss. Radomir Saicic, a Students’ List candidate, said “tonight is not just about results. “It is about people who believed and continued to fight,” he said. “This is a victory over fear. It is nobody’s trophy, it is a citizen’s victory. But victory carries responsibility.”
glowiefails/DEITIES… can we recover?/stop winning?

Judge rejects AG’s bid to permanently end case against ex-Capitol Police officer
September’s manslaughter trial against Rhinewalt and the other former officer who admitted to shooting at Lewis in self defense, Steven Frederick Jr., marked the first criminal trial from Capitol Police’s record year of shootings in 2022. After the trial ended in an acquittal for Frederick and a hung jury for Rhinewalt, Peterson said she could hold another trial as soon as February.
https://apnews.com/article/police-shooting-trial-black-motorist-mississippi-2b65ae6cab31a4c71ad8bbf6fa4f2bd7

Anthropic’s Claude AI model accessed Georgia voter data in US
The AI model managed to bypass a paywall to reach data that is publicly available but is typically accessible only after paying a fee. Claude accessed aggregate vote counts as part of a statistics project at Anthropic, which is preparing for a $1.5tn (£1.1tn) flotation.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/oct/26/anthropics-claude-ai-model-accessed-georgia-voter-data-in-us

Cuts to rural healthcare become key issue for upstate votes in race for NY governor
The latest flashpoint is in the Hudson Valley, where the Albany Med Health system has filed a plan to curtail services at Columbia Memorial Health in Hudson. Critics say patients in Columbia and Greene counties will now need to drive about an hour north to Albany to receive services that were once in their backyard.
https://gothamist.com/news/cuts-to-rural-healthcare-become-key-issue-for-upstate-votes-in-race-for-ny-governor

Raman calls herself a capitalist and democratic socialist in interview, days before Election Day
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CP of Greece, The way out for the Greek and all other peoples lies in overthrowing the exploitative system
On Friday 23 October Dimitris Koutsoumbas, General Secretary of the Central Committee of the KKE, visited the islands of Kastellorizo and Rhodes. In Kastellorizo, he visited the Island Defense Command of Megisti, where he met with the officers and staff. He also visited the island’s primary school and medical centre, and met with the mayor. In the afternoon, speaking at a KKE rally in Rhodes, he highlighted the dangerous developments in Greek-Turkish relations and the rivalries among the bourgeois classes and imperialist powers in the Eastern Mediterranean. He stated that the KKE opposes “the policy that transforms Greece into an energy and transportation hub and serves the interests of large monopolistic business groups, a policy that has nothing to do with the interests of the Greek people.” He reiterated the KKE’s position on defending the country’s borders and sovereign rights, opposing any change to the borders and the treaties that define them, while also emphasizing the need to foster friendship and solidarity between the peoples of Greece and Turkey.
https://www.solidnet.org/article/CP-of-Greece-The-way-out-for-the-Greek-and-all-other-peoples-lies-in-overthrowing-the-exploitative-system/

Serbia's Election: Student-led opposition triumphs, but communist alternative remains absent
According to preliminary results released by Serbia's Electoral Commission, the Student List secured 52.54% of the vote, compared with 39.29% for the Vučić-backed United Serbia coalition. The result followed widespread demonstrations against corruption and government policies, sparked by the deadly railway station canopy collapse in Novi Sad in November 2024. Serbia's communist organizations approached the elections from different positions. The Communists of Serbia highlighted the student movement under the slogan “Students Win,” while the New Communist Party of Yugoslavia (NKPJ) participated through the electoral list of the Russian Party, promoting cooperation with Russia and BRICS and opposition to NATO and the European Union. Neither organization, however, entered the electoral contest as an indepenPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2940466
>The Communists of Serbia highlighted the student movement under the slogan “Students Win,” while the New Communist Party of Yugoslavia (NKPJ) participated through the electoral list of the Russian Party, promoting cooperation with Russia and BRICS and opposition to NATO and the European Union. Neither organization, however, entered the electoral contest as an independent communist force presenting a comprehensive socialist alternative. The NKPJ's electoral alliance failed to secure parliamentary representation, while the student-led movement attracted support from a broad assortment of opposition parties with differing political agendas.
The NKPJ and the Russian party are SNS allies. And no opposition parties got any seats, it was just the Student list, which did not give any of the spots on their candidate list to those other parties. The new parliament is composed of just the Student list, the United Serbia list (SNS) and less than 10 minority party seats. And both these communist parties are extremely niche. The anti-capitalist left is generally outside of the political discourse in Serbia, and the prominence of the Student movement might have brought it back a little (because there are left-wing factions in it), but the Student movement itself is not on the anti-capitalist left. If we're judging it based on the Student list's political program, then they are social democrats and somewhat anti-neoliberal.

Tybna



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Just a reminder to vote trvmp
>trump has destablized the USA
>traffis have destroyed US hegmony/capitalism
>Losing in iran
>Contradictions in capitalism are only accelerating
>DSA is winning (even if its reformism it shows people are becoming recepitive to socialism again).
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>>2940255
Not just that, the lie is that we live in a two party system, most Americans live in what are effectively one party states, either solidly red or solidly blue, if you live in the 42 or so solid states your vote REALLY doesn’t matter, it matters even less than federal elections which are a joke.

>not voting for guillotine

undialetical

>even communists don't vote for communist parties but they vote for socdems
Just shut it down. It's over.

>>2940261
If you vote for communists within the context of liberal democracy and they win, they can only ever govern in a socdem manner anyway, just look at southern india or bologna or graz

Bumo



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Recently I've been thinking about why people believe in things, why they act or think in one way or the other. I am now leaning towards "people believe in X or Y to justify killing people".

I really hate to be a doomer or use my fee-fees for opinions but all the drama on twitter, all the bullshit i see on the internet or irl is getting to me

I spent a bit reading up on people's opinions, on some historical massacres, the genocides in sudan, palestine, the cultural revolution and the blood spilled there, the horrible crimes committed in the name of capital or communism or liberation or fascism and I think I understand a bit more about people now.

My dad and I often argue about one thing or another - and i love the man, but he is stubborn and old - and one of those arguments was about empathy. I argued that it is intrinsic, and not just a learned behavior. He argued against it, and now I think he was right

People dont *really* care about achieving a political goal (tho some do). What they care about is justifying their behavior. And most people are crude, violent apes, who behave accordingly. In every age people thought they were the enlightened Modern Man - free of the barbarity of the past. They thought that as they murdered their neighbours, raped children and whatever. So many people just want a group they can hate - whether its brown people, trans people, jews, women, atheists, muslims. Anyone who isnt you, basically.

Doesnt matter which political belief, doesnt matter who or what you are, doesnt matter where or when you live. Most people just want an US and a THEM, and the more of THEM that are subject to violence the better.

How can i begin believing in humanity again when hate mobs kill transhumanists like me, when soldiers murder, steal and rape all over the globe, when people all around the world justify the deaths of innocent people because of how or where they were born?

Why is it so hard for people to see others as people?
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>>2940535
Art, music, social hangouts. Boredom creates ideas if given time to think about them, it would force us humans to think smarter and a more logical basis.

>>2940535
>>2940539
double-posting, but holy i do want to emphasize that boredom is something we should actually feel, nobody is "bored" under capitalism because we are fed things by everything and everyone every single fucking time to the point we cant exactly leave room and space for us to really think about the stuff that actually matters.

communism abolishes a lot of that, it reduces the dopamine-kicks you get from capitalism but also contributes to long-term dopamine, or you can just drink and mow the field for 2 hours, life well lived nonetheless.

A lot of it comes from insecurity not imo lack of empathy itself. There's something misanthropic and anti-social about what passes for the "right" these days beyond all the racism, homophobia, transphobia and sexism itself.
You have these (mostly) men hurting because they're failing (in their eyes) in some way (sexually, career wise, status) or imagine themselves as being threatened. (plenty of it ingrained through mass media, peer pressure, etc) And they can't cope the way some do by practicing some self-reflection, and focusing on other goals or appreciating what they have. So they bond over their shared hatreds. Live vicariously through people doing heinous shit. Feel empowered through cruelty, and so on.

There's also the element of apocalypticism (you also see this here) and wanting the world to end (because then their suffering ends or they'll at least get an attempt to thrive and rub it in the faces of everyone who has ever slighted them) instead of things improving a little.

It's grim realizing it's not all down to "class" and some people really are fucking bitter and spiteful regardless of how objectively "successful" they are.

[cont]
Think of how need is recognized as the basis of not just human behavior but behavior in general, and is a staple in biology, sociology, psychology, economics and other fields (including "Marxism"). But people seem to lose the plot when discussing isms, phobias and sexual pathologies. And you'll instead have them argue it's down to mysterious forces imposing this stuff from the 'outside'.

>>2931741
Also good post



 

“Mass immigration is insane and will lead to the destruction of any country that allows it. It only takes a few percent of the world to move to a country, where it is no longer that country. A country is its people, not its geography.”
https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1908860526400057534

"The legacy media never mentions white genocide in South Africa, because it doesn’t fit their narrative that whites can be victims"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1904065163407368212

Even Musk's AI is based.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1916042294018666585

"The ADL is a hate group"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1973289543848829225

He supports remigration.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1997700657546191314

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>>2913320
For marx, the asiatic mode of production is about the state monopoly on land ownership, and the apparent lack of division between town and country that was in asiatic society, where the ones doing agriculture and early industry where living in the same places, unlike feudal serfs (also control over irrigation)
It is a concept that has been mostly rejected by any contemporary marxists, including those in the soviet union, with some rebranding it the "tributary" mode of production, where the governing body exerce total control over vital sectors and lord over peasants without tying them to the land

Hmm…
>Is an Afrikaner that resents the ANC for abolishing apartheid
>Bankrolls every racist and far-right party in Europe, including the AfD which harbors actual Neo-Nazis
>Pays millions for his mockingbird influencer network that includes both philosemitic white neocons and zionist Nazis like Captive_Dreamer
>Boosts and pushes racist slop
>Is currently trying to incite a race war in the UK by artificially tweaking his algorithm to almost exclusively show ChudSlop to his British userbase, especially of the pedophobic variety
>Has spent days pushing Uwe Boll’s movie version of the Turner Diaries
>Constantly spouts far-right talking points
>Literally siege heil’ed at Munich

Yep, Elon Musk is a Nazi, a’ight.("Pedophobia" bruh)

>>2925285


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>>2913333
>especially of the pedophobic variety



 

The essence of Grift is to create a problem that exists but doesn't need to exist, and to repeatedly sell a whackamole solution to it that doesn't get at the root cause of the problem.

My favorite 2 are law enforcement and drug rehab.
Drug rehab doesn't actually remove addictive substances from society, it just charges people exorbitant fees to "Recover" no drug rehab center actually has a long term financial interest in seeing drug addiction permanently eradicated.

Law enforcement officials often cause or exacerbate crime by being military occupiers of urban communities they don't even live in. Crime takes the form of resistance against the police, and the police view the population they "enforce the laws" against as disobedient animals. A cop loves nothing more than to plant drugs on a homeless person and use that as a pretext for arresting them, or to bait a person into illegal behavior through provocation, as a pretext for arresting them. Pig stations get more budgets based on the arrests they make and tickets they give, so there is a direct incentive for them to create more crime to get more budget, even if it means creating crime that would otherwise not exist. Crime is a byproduct of policing also because capital hungers for prison labor, which comes more cheaply and with less legal protections than the standard "free" working class population.
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>>2936559
made up a guy to get mad at instead of replying to the content of the OP award


>>2936528
You are wrong. Being "tough on crime" is incompatible with the theory of scientific socialism, because the state does not stand above social classes; rather, it is an instrument used by one social class to oppress another. For a communist revolution to overthrow the bourgeois state and establish the dictatorship of the proletariat, actions deemed "crimes" by the bourgeois state will be necessary—and such state repression would inevitably be directed against communists and workers. Therefore, the bourgeois state must never be granted the power to repress. Instead, the militias of the workers' self-defense committees must employ whatever force is required to consolidate the supremacy of the proletariat and suppress counter-revolutionaries, liberals, reactionaries, lackeys of imperialism, opportunists, and those who advocate for class conciliation—while also preparing for the re-education of enemies to encourage their surrender and demoralization.

The state is an instrument through which one class oppresses another, because a class-based society is characterized by irreconcilable antagonisms between property owners—both against one another and against those who lack property—which inevitably lead to conflict. For this reason, an entity separate from and alienated from this society emerges to provide a certain hypocritical “order” that maintains the ruling classes in power within a class-based society.

The industrial reserve army is necessary for capitalists to intensify the exploitation of workers; otherwise, instability and a decline in profit rates will occur, hindering the accumulation of capital in a capitalist system within a bourgeois state.

The state is not a neutral entity and it cannot have any opportunity to subdue the workers. Scientific socialism and revolutionary socialism are incompatible with any demand to empower the bourgeois state to repress the workers and take away their independence so that the proletarian class cannot organize, arm itself, and seize power to disarm the bourgeois class and its agents.

I will begin with excerpts from the political program of Marx and Engels that demonstrate this position and outline some points regarding how to combat the problem of the industrial reserve army of workers:

<4. Universal arming of the people. In future armie
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>remove addictive substances from society
dumbest shit i've ever heard

>>2936528
>rime reduces when you put criminals in prison for a long time.
source?



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If god isnt real then why whenever I do a ritual and pray to god for specfic event to happen in my life or globally it happens
>words words words words words words
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OP reposted my meme lol

anyway OP… could you elaborate on which events you prayed for which happened?

>>2939868
Here is the psychological mechanism behind these brain farts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_correlation

>>2939868
Crazy how in reality they are all ᴉuᴉlossnW

>>2939976
I got lula electee and the iran war to continue into 2027

>>2940239
look when you go to the grocery store there are 30 different brands of macaroni



 

Explain this you Eurocentric, racist Marxists with your necessary linear stages of development. Did the Inca already have their capitalist stage before they achieved socialism or not?
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>>2909417
Beria regularly sacrificed young girls to Perun, Khrushchev put a stop to this and the USSR immediately declined.

>>2909271
Centrally planned palace economy =/= Socialism

>>2939334
>bumping 2 month old thread that should have been deleted to get in le epic correction
You are terminally retarded. Please fuck off and never come back.

>>2909305
why do you instantly take the tone of a 4pol troll the second you are asked a question

>>2939578
because bordiga supposedly being an axis supporter is a meme and the people who post it are also shitposting/trolling



 

There are large protests in my country surrounding the affordability of housing, elections draw near and this got me thinking on who should I vote.

>PSOE: center-left dinousaurs, their attitude towards any problem is to hide and pretend it doesn't exist, that is both their biggest strength and weakness.


>Sumar: lib leftists, not radical by any means but they're more of the "go fast and break stuff type", on one hand they defend things that benefit me such as welfare programs for the disabled (which I am considered part of), on the other hand they defend social causes that go against my interests, such as euthanasia.


I'm using what shrinks call "profit-and-loss thinking" (because shrinks love to patholigise everything). I do not care about any progressive causes, or causes of any kind, I perceive anything that is not my material self-interest to be a "spook" as you like to say, I have been greatly abused by "oppresed" individuals and left-wing ideologues for me to give a shit about either, the opposite of love is indifference (not hatred) and the best revenge is to live well.

I'm in the following situation:
>minimum wage
>cisgender male
>disabled (sperg)
>assets in the 10000s of euros.

>inb4 don't vote

KYS
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>>2930205
What the fuck are you talking about?

That said, friendly reminder that the general strike is on the 11th of November

>>2930205
Electoralism can - can - impose something all communist microparties really need: verifiable success/ failure standards. As it happens now most parties take their shot first and then draw the bullseye around it. It's hard to do that if you say "we'll have failed if we don't get elected" and then don't.

Of course in practice most don't do this. They get whatever dismal vote they get, usually underperforming joke candidates and local cranks and bizarre freak parties with meme ideologies, and then they go "great campaign guys, 50 votes!"

Every communist should be sat down and forced to read a management textbook. Capitalists know how to manage their affairs, set defined success/failure standards, and hold managers accountable for meeting them. Communist micro party cults have no such discipline and so have been rudderless for decades. They are worthy of nothing but contempt.

>>2939941
¡A la huelga!

>>2930205
those who glow;

>>2930205
thanks CIA



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It’s a topic I’ve been thinking about, the history of socialist symbols and icons, not so much in terms of their actual politics, but in terms of how people who lived under these political systems related to them. Many didn’t necessarily understand the political processes or ideology behind the systems, but they genuinely liked these systems and embraced them enough to apply their own traditional forms of praise and reverence to them. This could mean displaying portraits of prominent communist figures in their homes, creating effigies of them, or adopting the hammer and sickle or variations of it as a kind of national or cultural symbol.

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Lenin Lives is probably the best starting point for understanding this phenomenon. The book explores how following his death, Lenin was transformed into an immortal revolutionary figure, his body became an object of public veneration and how virtually every ethnic subgroup created its own version of Lenin, portraying him for instance as part German, Turkic, Russian, or Siberian and they had their own hadiths about Lenin visiting their villages, becoming impressed by the workers and peasants whom he regarded as patriotic and then departing once again.

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>>2939772
lol, though sometimes I do also wonder If to some extent Marx’s general appearance played a role in his popularity. Like, you really can't see Lassalle or Marx’s contemporaries as easily made into a medal, they all looked like dorky guys. Like M said, Marx looked like a fucking prophet, with his beard and long hair perfectly complementing his face.

Very interesting subject. Remember the hammer and sickle design was developed by an aristocrat (?) obsessed with Egyptian design and the star itself is a iconological representation of the relation between the lesser and the greater, and the greater and the whole.



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