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Not a lot of revolutionary ideas coming out of the left . just talk about defending lost causes like the USSR etc we are looking backwards which is Undialectical .some new ideas coming out of leftypol but nothing groundbreaking . ACP RCP FRSO
DSA PSL have nothing new to say Losardo , cockshott and rock hill all talking about the past and dead ideas that can’t meet moment. They are brilliant people but it’s not new ideas just organizing the dead stuff . We can’t keep talking about history like a bunch of Reddit nerds where are the new ideas in theory and I don’t mean the dead end deleuze and anarchist crap of the 90s

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>>2682896
>Not a lot of revolutionary ideas coming out of the left

>>2682935
Juche is as old as the sino soviet split because it was Kim Il Sung’s way of being neutral between his Chinese and Soviet benefactors, pretty genius but I don’t see how it could be universalized (inb4 someone posts the Nepali Juche party which has never been close to power)

>>2682896
Name 5 new ideas right now.

>>2682896
>dead end deleuze crap
pls elaborate bc deleuze's philosophy of praxis is mostly a philosophy of creativity

>>2682896
>new ideas, we need new ideas so we can be dialectical (tm)
idealist. modernizer. vulgarizer. academic.
>the left
a wing of capital



 

Who do you think the best head of state of all time was? You can pick whoever I just added those images above because I assumed that those would be the most common answers.
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>>2637368
All the leaders of Mongols and similar warring steppe nomads. By periodically wrecking Eurasia they delayed industrialization for several hundred years. Because of them we get to be among the last people to not be chipped, genetically engineered slaves. We also get to enjoy whales, lions, and forests before they disappear.

>>2642264
source

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>>2637368
Augustus and Caesar, with Deng as a runner-up.

Augustus terminated the chaos of the Late Republic, a death spiral of privatized violence and aristocratic competition, and replaced it with the Principate. Before Augustus, Roman freedom was the freedom to be drafted and to die fighting in pointless civil wars against other romans. His fundamental act was to establish a monopoly on violence, subordinating the military to a central, predictable authority. This new system, whose stability depended on a productive and taxable populace, generated the Pax Romana. Its mechanisms of a professional army, rationalized bureaucracy, and integrated infrastructure produced two centuries of security and economic predictability, a vast material improvement for tens of millions over the preceding century of civil war.

Deng Xiaoping enacted a similar systemic replacement. He dismantled the dysfunctional mechanism of Maoist command economics, which generated chronic famine and scarcity, and substituted a hybrid system that harnessed market forces under state control. The core mechanisms of de-collectivized agriculture and Special Economic Zones fundamentally rewired the relationship between labor and reward. This systemic shift unlocked the productive capacity of the population, initiating the single largest and fastest poverty reduction event in human history.

this is a pretty good roster. someone should make a mousou game with the whole set.

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>>2637368
>>2637368
Tito mogs all of these.



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Curious what people's thoughts on Liberia are.

It was founded by freed slaves, but there must have been people there. Was there the same kind of contradiction that we see in Palestine with the Israeli colonizers? Or in the US/Canada with Indigenous? Or was it peaceful
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>>2678144
why is the audio like that

>>2677927
i mean it makes sense
>atrocity happens to group
>group in subsequent times collectively develops "I have to do this first or it will happen to us again" mindset


stupid apes like their neighbors, what else

Liberia is a yank house negro state.



 

Killing kids? Fine.
Smoking weed? HELL NO YOUR GOING TO JAIL!

Isn't there this thing called the 9th amendment right to bodily autonomy? That would make a law to send suicidal people to jail under attempted suicide under the Self-murder laws. It would be nonsense. Drug policy is unconstitutional.
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>>2682772
Seethe

>>2682776
I am not the one with hobbies that can put you in prison

>>2682796
Pretty standard for an ICE agent

>>2682807
I said in a pitiful manner, I do not agree with sending druggies to prisons under capitalism

>>2682796
Yall cowards dont even smoke crack.



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But if Jews run everything why don't Nazis convert to Judaism to also run the world?

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Oy vey the goyim figured it out.
SHUT IT DOWN!

>>2680746
Epic meme bro

>>2680710
Merely your mom needs to be Jewish, which means a Jewish person could be genetically very divergent from Jews with a closer Middle Eastern heritage. Additionally, the Jewish diaspora is spans across the Western world leading to significant cultural divergencies as well. That means no one can actually disprove you are Jewish if you were to claim you are. You just need to integrate well enough and keep up the bid.

>>2680770
The jews totally wouldn't see through that and would let you demand whatever you wanted from the politicians they have blackmail on fron the Epstein island. It's so smart Palestinians should try, the jews would have no choice but stop bombing them and stealing their land. On a side note, do you know what a secular jew is?

>>2680710
you can convert to judaism. ivanka trump? do you learn everything from memes?



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Is it possible to be a proponent of Maoism today outside Asia and a few other places without it becoming some kind of pompous joke? I mean, in the west it's hard to find any peasant movements to long-march in front of.
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>>2681553
Yeah, or they watched Salò and didn't realize it was fiction.

>>2681528
>Maoism is when peasants
Do you people ever have an original thought?

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>>2681550
People have this idea of Mao era China as le Chinese emperor but Communist but that's anti-communist nonsense. Chinese Communism in general always had a much larger strain of Anarchism running through it than most other places with successful revolutions because Anarchism caught on in China significantly before Marxism did. The Mao era had a lot of really interesting experiments in how to balance Leninist and Anarchist organizational models, the Cultural Revolution most obviously and importantly. And from Mao, the CRSG and the radical Red Guards factions there was a relatively consistent push for immediate higher stage Communism. For instance the opening agenda of the Cultural Revolution included abolition of commodity production, the division between town and country, the division between mental and manual labor and the reorganization of China along the lines of the Paris Commune. Pic related. The ultimate reason this didn't happen wasn't because Mao was an opportunist either, in 68 there was a military mutiny against Mao and the radical factions in Wuhan that nearly went national and Mao reluctantly backed off after that. The irony of the Chinese emperor trope is that it was the more anarchistic factions in Mao era China that were the most hardcore about his personality cult, the technocratic rightists who became the nucleus of the post-Mao CPC were a lot more wary of it.

So it's pretty obvious why Maoism would've been such a big thing on the libertarian left in the 60s and 70s and if anything the surprise is that that's not still the case today.

>>2681745
Was it?

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>>2681528
Maoism focuses more on the town-country contradiction than other sects so it's confusing to interpret in the imperial core but it's not impossible at all.

The town-country contradiction boils down to the division of mental and physical labor and the centralization of administration in the town. Since the Nixon shock and the beginning of telework, the town-country contradiction and the bourgeois family have become increasingly absurd.

I'm still not sure of the full solution but it has something to do with flipping Marcuse and the rest of the cultural theorists on their heads. It's all something to do with the self-administration (mental labor) of the oppressed.



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How can neo-Nazis be aligned with Israel's defense? What explains Nazis taking Israel’s side in conflict? Why are modern fascists fighting on behalf of Israel?
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>hasn't been posted yet

jews are considered white for the most part, whereas muslims are not, that's it.

>>2651611

Anyone who is pro-Ukkkraine is a Nazi.

The sooner that country is just the Ukraine again, or a Ukrainoblast, the better.

>>2652270

it is 100% a white settler colonialist project. Look at the way they treat Ethiopian Jews (Beta Israel) and Samaritan Jew.s



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<Republic of Cuba
<Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
<People’s Republic of China
<Lao People’s Democratic Republic
<Socialist Republic of Vietnam
<Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela

Rest of the world is ruled by bourgeoisie and personal opinions and political positions are up to debate but not these countries. Dictatorship of the proletariat means that these countries are ruled by the proletariat and their representatives.
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Peak leftist"com" moment right here: >>2563161

Read Bordiga.

Way to screw over The Republic of Nicaragua

>Uncritical support
Stopped reading.

Uncritical support is for (and I mean this in its proper medical definition) retards. No exceptions.

>>2563041
>chinese triad operated casino resorts
..you mean deus ex didn't make that part up?

>>2562383
Ok. How are you "supporting" them?



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the movement needs belief as much as it needs theory and organization
i believe in stalin
what about you?

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The body was too short or empty.
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it needs only organization. belief and even theory have both proven corrosive to organization. theory and belief take no work, while organization takes work, so you wind up with LARPing losers who play theologian all day.

>>2649746
Like a woman seeking refuge in the arms of a strong daddy figure. Pathetic.

If the Soviet Union created an actual cult around Stalin, as in, a religious doctrine with Stalin as the Savior, it would still be around today.

>>2650102
Would it be worth preserving at thst point?

>>2682600
Yea it will get deleted cause you're spamming it all over multiple threads, not because you're saying something forbidden. And like I wrote on the previous one - this site didin't use to be like this, it had a real brothehood and community, now the GETchan pedo mods let shitheads post whatever they want. with no quality control.



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Fuck the working class in first world countries, they don't care about the working class of poor countries. There's no international "proletarian solidarity". I support the interclass struggle of oppressed nations to oppose imperial domination.

Fuck America
Fuck Zionism
Glory to the resistance
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>>2646758
>amerigoblin
>being racist to anyone
shesh…

>There's no international "proletarian solidarity"
>>2644499
>>2644578
True. From now on, you should care less and less about this blackpill and whatever else the inhabitants of the first world care about or don't care about. It is in their material interest to maintain inequalities, and in your interest to organize politically to improve your neighborhood, community, and country.
>>2647292
From one thirdoid to another, stop being a pick me for the retards in this cesspool.

>>2649164
>the retards in this cesspool
you mean western leftists?

>>2644497
>There's no international "proletarian solidarity". I support the interclass struggle
Yeah! Hail Sakai and Israel!

>Fuck the working class in first world countries
This is a dumb take, I hate when people do this. The working class in the first world are crucial because they need to read the most so they can overthrow their governments and stop the oppression of the third world.



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