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>SDF chief Mazloum Abdi says that the integration of Kurdish-led forces into the Syrian state is complete, adding that "our struggle will continue to guarantee the rights of the Kurdish people in the Syrian constitution" "The phase of integrating the military, security and administrative institutions into the state institutions has ended, and from today onward, a new phase has begun,” he said, calling on the people of the region to protect the "institutions established through the sacrifices of martyrs, and to support and preserve them."
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>>2897466
OldBO was not vindicated, in fact if Assad had held out a little longer imagine how things would be going now. He was the weak link that allowed Syria to fall.

>>2913595
It was also the failure of the Ba'athists and Rojava to cooperate that ultimately led to the rebel victory. People are just mad at Rojava for existing instead of swearing unquestioning loyalty to a government that didn't even treat them as full citizens at the best of times and abandoned them to the terrorists at the first sign of trouble.

>>2913629
TO be fair, they did try quite hard to negotiate with Damascus, it was this autismo unwillingness that ultimately doomed Assad IMHO.

>>2913595
>post-hoc alt-history

>>2913633
I won't pin it all on the Ba'athists since they had good reasons to be suspicious, mainly the cooperation of Rojava with the Americans. I'd consider both to share blame.



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This isn't a joke or anything
Cuba is gonna be invaded by the US by next month, and I don't have much hope in the Cuban armed forces alone.

Either an armed resistance needs to be established in the United States or international voluteers need to be formed for Cuba, either by the Cuban goverment or some communist org (PSL, RCI, etc).
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Don't waste your breath happninenfag, nothing happens.

>>2912229
I think he was going to do it after Iran but then that started taking too long and he just has summer seasonal depression, so he's not feeling it anymore, just wants to build the ballroom.

>>2912223
>we're gonna starve you until old women are expiring on piles of garbage on the streets

>this is proof of your evil and/or incompetence. Ignore the contradiction in terms.


Death to the burgerreich

cuba won

>>2889375
>So the whole "China isn't helping!" bit was bullshit?
duh.



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Worker vs capitalist
Peasant vs landlord
Native vs colonizer

The last one is the most inherent contradiction in humanity but Marxists play down any class relations other than proles vs capitalists. They even look down on Maoism because it put emphasis on peasants.
Why are they like that?
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>>2913013
But if you say industrial society is bad Marxists get quite irate, even though Marx said industry and science had dehumanized man, he just thought it would do the opposite in the future, which hasn't happened yet.

>>2912638
2/3rds of those class societies collapsed into capitalism.

>>2913308
primitivism has no method of implementation. how are you supposed to re-establish hunter gather society through revolution when most conflicts are determined by who has superior productive forces and technology?

>>2913331
Because all that fancy machinery is going to run out of oil and lithium, you can’t make more of either, and you can’t use them when the population will be halved by super hurricanes from the el nino and wet bulb temperatures spreading

>>2913359
running out of oil and lithium doesn't instantly put us back in hunter gatherer mode, it just means people will fall back on other fuel types. Even if technology goes backwards, conflicts will be determined by who has the most advanced stuff. There is no way to implement primitivism.



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Labour told to scrap 50% strike ballot and link to e-balloting
NASUWT general secretary Matt Wrack said if the 50 per cent threshold applied in public elections, many of the current cabinet would not be in Parliament, telling delegates in Brighton that it was “scandalous” that Britain was in breach of various International Labour Organisation (ILO) conventions on industrial action.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/labour-told-scrap-50-strike-ballot-and-link-e-balloting

Turkish authorities launch crackdown on LGBTQ+ and HIV support groups
Justice Minister Akin Gurlek announced on social media that the investigation into 162 suspects, nine associations and 13 businesses was to “protect children, the institution of the family, and public order” in line with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s 10-year executive order relating to families and children.
https://apnews.com/article/turkey-lgbtq-hiv-crackdown-c782f5318613126fe072d29133e6bf5d

Finland shelters under French nuclear umbrella amid Russian, US uncertainty
The announcement came as part of a new strategic partnership between Finland and France, formalised by the countries’ foreign ministers in Helsinki on Monday. Finland becomes the 10th European country to join the French initiative, which comes as Russia is viewed as a growing threat and increasing concern over the commitment of the United States to help protect the continent.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/9/14/finland-shelters-under-french-nuclear-umbrella-amid-russian-us-uncertainty
https://archive.ph/b4sD3

Sweden’s political parties launch coalition talks as both blocs try to secure power
Sweden’s political parties have launched coalition negotiations as the Social Democrats leader, Magdalena Andersson, started the long and difficult process of trying to form a new governmentPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Mahmoud Khalil sues Columbia University for showing 'deliberate indifference' to pro-Palestinian students
Khalil claims Columbia failed to respond to persistent and severe harassment those students allegedly encountered because of their advocacy, despite repeatedly asking Columbia administrators for help in the days and weeks preceding his March 2025 arrest by ICE agents.
https://abcnews.com/US/mahmoud-khalil-sues-columbia-university-showing-deliberate-indifference/story?id=136427312
https://archive.ph/YBSJR

‘Proven Leaders and Voices of Clarity’: Progressives Urge Ocasio-Cortez and Khanna to Enter 2028 Presidential Race =
Two progressive advocacy organizations Monday called on Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) to enter the 2028 presidential race, singling them out as “proven leaders and voices of clarity.” Progressive Democrats of America (PDA) and RootsAction announced an initiative aimed at lobbying the two congressional progressives to put their hats in the ring for the presidency, arguing they offer a much-needed alternative to establishment Democrats too eager to do the bidding of corporate interests.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/aoc-ro-khanna-2028

Pay Pal Founding Board Member Earmarks $40 Million To Hit Back Against DSA
Make Liberty Win noted that “self-proclaimed socialists” are running for public office and winning within the Democratic Party, as was the case with New York’s newly elected mayor, Zohran Mamdani. The campaign aims to mobilize young and college-aged activists to knock on the doors of more than 2 million voters in key states.
https://politicspa.com/pay-pal-co-founder-earmarks-40-million-to-hit-back-against-dsa/152935/
https://archive.ph/Yi9Fv

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Promises, Promises: AOC, Israel, and the DSA
Eager to maintain her image as a left populist as well as the patina of democratic socialism that comes with a DSA endorsement, AOC is changing her tune. After eight years of supporting Israel, she has now vowed to oppose all military funding to the country and promised to oppose any legislation that equates ant-Zionism with antisemitism. But her newfound political clarity on the state of Israel is too little too late. In fact, even a cursory reading of her public statement shows that she is — as the soviets used to say — trying to sit on two chairs with one ass. AOC wants to signal to the DSA that she is willing to vote against additional funding for the Iron Dome while still making it clear to her Democratic colleagues that she supports the defense of Israel and the Zionist and imperialist project the missile system helps to maintain.
https://www.leftvoice.org/promises-promises-aoc-israel-and-the-dsa/

Erik Houdini:Butt-Rock Hauntology, Nu Metal Nostalgia
Why are right-wing accounts suddenly nostalgic for Puddle of Mudd, one of the worst bands of the 2000s? This essay explores how the reactionary longing for a "pure" white rock past erases nu-metal's true multiracial, working-class roots. Hauntology is the anti-nostalgia because it is predicated on examining what was lost by past futures, not envisioning the past as a superior future. Are we nostalgic about nu-metal? Or do we see the multi-racial working class background of the artists who produced it, along with its current revival, as producing insights into a future that never came? It seems like a pseudo-intellectual difference, but you can see how it manifests within the discourse. That’s the thing with nostalgia. It is typically framed as a look at what they took from you, but seldom is "they" defined, and it is predicated on an idea that the past was more pure than the present or the future could ever be. It is deeply anti-material, acting on a baseline emotion that capitalism causes. When you participate in the capitalist economy, you cannot help but feel despair for this reality we are forced to drudge through. When you were a child in 1996 and someone bought you an N64 and Ocarina of Time, you were not aware that the climate was collapsing or that most species Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Ty na ilu



 

why is it that the only resistance to anti imperialism really doing anything is shia islam

>hezbollah actively fighting Israel like warriors


>houthis closing straits liberating their land


>irgc closing straits bombing us bases


>western left is so pussyfied worrying about if working out is fascism and if its not that its democratic socialist dsa slop should we all just convert to shia Islam and start jihad on the capitalists is that the only way we stop being soy libtards?


YA HUSSAIN(A.S) YA ZAINAB(R.A) YA ALI(A.S)
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>>2912920
>india invented western marxism 3000 years ago gandalf
woah…

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>>2913224
Is he supposed to be a satanist or sumthin?

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>>2913224
the USSR was really pioneering the soyjaks before everyone else

>>2912981
>Also important. The main problem in organizing for any illegal activity is knowing who you can trust.
Yeah. Also just having other guys being able to back you up and with actual firepower too. If you get grabbed by some guys then the guys in your tribe will kill those guys. Or they'll come get you out of there.

>>2913224
>ignores history
You mean the faction that had to be curtailed because of loss of support?
It got so bad that atheists had to promote christianity and islam in order to get support for communism.



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Flying and Nazi Malays Edition.

A general thread for the discussion for all things happening in Southeast Asia. What a year it has been. Forest fires in Borneo now. Border skirmishes with Thailand and Cambodia. Vietnam mimicking South Korean chaebols. Singapore begging its citizens to have kids. Malaysia sending Rohingya refugees back to Myanmar while it is still in a civil war.

All the while the heat is cooking us now.
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>>2912096
He does claim himself as the descendant of one of the prince of the dai viet from around 1300, but the movement itself has been completely made up in the US from nothing, twenty years after the vietnam war already ended, with help from the US government, the only government with Ukraine (not joking btw) that somewhat recognize their existence
As for the vietnamese diaspora, he was personally implicated in helping refugees from south vietnam settle in the US, and they voted him president of the "third republic of vietnam", so he did help them, they're not just retards

>>2912128
It just seems shoddy and haphazard even for being wholly artificial

is it true that the Ottomans controlled even Indonesia?

>>2912161
I’m sure their merchants went everywhere but the Ottomans weren’t ever going to conquer the Safavids or the Mughals. They couldn’t even deal with Greeks, Serbs, and Armenians, how are they going to deal with millions of Hindus better than the Mughals?

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Indonesian anons, is there any truth to the claims that those protests from last year were an op, or is this just baseless slander? (One of these articles talk about the earlier protests that occurred in 2023)
https://thegrayzone.com/2026/06/05/soros-osf-indonesian-insurrection-leaks/
https://www.mintpressnews.com/leak-cia-ned-color-revolution-coup-indonesia/285617/



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Genuine question. Why do left-wing anti-imperialists in general celebrate 10/7, but condemn 9/11? If you read some of what Yahya Sinwar has said, his reasoning was very similar to OBL's. Big attack meant to ignite a wider war, break the status quo of arab states' collaboration with the occupiers and make the world turn against the US (for OBL) and Israel (for Sinwar).

(On the last point, OBL genuinely thought 9/11 would get Americans to turn against their government like with Vietnam which is laughable. Yahya Sinwar was at least correct that 10/7 slowed arab normalization with Israel and severely damaged its reputation worldwide.)
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>>2916507
>another LARPer

>>2916512
Yeah I’m sure you’ve done all those things, LARPer.

We know you’re the same guy who keeps spamming empty threats under new personas every few weeks because you have nothing better to do than to spam an imageboard.

Touch grass, freak

>>2916519
All online bullshit is LARP without exception.

>>2916522
Take the site offline right now.

>>2916523
All online is LARP.



 

It's time someone said it: Engels was dead wrong in "on the housing question", especially in a US context.

<During the 1870s, a major polemical debate unfolded in Germany’s worker/democratic press on the shortage of housing available to workers in major industrial centres. The influx and increase of the proletariat created a housing crisis. On June 26 1872, Engels contributed the first of a series of articles to the Volksstaat, entitled “The Housing Question.” The last appeared on February 22 1873. Engels’ central point was that the revolutionary class policy of the proletariat cannot be replaced by a policy of reforms, because "it is not that the solution of the housing question simultaneously solves the social question, but that only by the solution of the social question, that is, by the abolition of the capitalist mode of production, is the solution of the housing question made possible." The series criticizes Proudhonism (and petty-bourgeois socialism in general, including Lassalleanism). It also discusses things like the nature of the State, the dictatorship of the proletariat, the eradication of the antithesis between town and country, the solution of the agrarian problem, forms of the socialist reconstruction of society and the tasks of the proletarian party.


Engels argued against other socialists like Proudhon and Emil Sax who argued that widespread working class home ownership was the solution to the housing crisis. Engels actually classified Sax's scheme as "bourgeois socialism" because it aimed state intervention at ameliorating class consciousness without altering overall class relations that much, by "bourgeois-fying" the proletariat through home ownership.

Engels denies that workers even want land and also thinks that if workers owned houses the bourgeoisie will just lower their wages by the amount of the rent they no longer have to pay.

In his haste to prove these non revolutionary class reconciliation schemes can't work and only socialist revolution can actually resolve the contradictions of housing under capitalism. Perhaps that it true in the long run, but that may be centuries. Engels concedes, essentially, that working class homeowners, while not capitalist, are also non proletarian:

>Capital is the command over the unpaid labor of others. The house of the worker can only become capital therefore if he rents it to a third person an
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>>2911077
Sorry, CEOs aren't proletarian. Neither are professional athletes.

>>2912904
What makes someone proletarian?

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>>2912913
>What makes someone proletarian?
being the working class of the 19th century

why did you use obi wan for this threaed?

>>2913172
thats not obi wan thats engels



 

A little known topic about how the basis of Vietnamesse coffee production came from their socialist era. Trade agreements that benefit the client state are rare and shows how communism can work
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>>2912723
You’re an edgy social democrat

>>2912724
>retard has no arguments
>muh social democracy
Bordiga rotted your brain

>>2912728
Why have people sacrifice their lives and die just to work for wages and buy shit just like right now? Not even having a plan, no matter how long term to get out of that awful status quo makes even going to jail for you a non starter.

>>2912723
If you think communism will have money, classes, states, and commodities, what even distinguishes communism as a mode of production from capitalism?

I guess if you're talking about the DoTP then yeah these things will be inherited from capitalism but the point of the DoTP is to abolish the conditions that led to commodities, classes, etc and thereby transition into communism.

>>2912729
Au contraire my dear leftychud.
Getting out of that predicament is the goal.
But you will not get out of it by wishing it away in a fantasy scenario. You need a new status quo.

>>2912737
Because those things by themselves do not form the totality of property relations. Communism is innovative in how it allows the government direct claim over labor power of the citizenry. This is key for it opens so many doors for civilizational innovation. However, in so doing, this government should it rationally organize and motivate the citizenry, will resolve contradictions within the existing property relations, creating new ones. Only thing is, we do not know how exactly these relations will evolve, we can only estimate its direction via econophysics.



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>>>/siberia/818393
> If you want to be really esoteric, Marxism is advanced feudalism.
No. Marxism is not advanced feudalism. Feudalism is predicated on aristocrat-serf class relations, whereas Marxism is predicated on the elimination of class relations. On what planet could one possibly come to the "esoteric" conclusion that Marxism is "advanced feudalism?" Even assuming this is inspired by that dumb pop-Economics book from Yanis Varoufakis (Technoefeudalism) that is not even his hypothesis. His hypothesis is that the capitalist countries are becoming Technofeudal, not the AES countries. I am honestly baffled by this take and thought it deserved its own thread, because I did not want to derail the thread I found it in. Where are people getting this idea? Is there a common source for this revision or is it arising out of pure vibes?
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>>2909604
This leftychud gets it.
As regards class stratification, unless our biology changes, there will be specialists who are initiated into scientific disciplines because there is massive downshot potential for screwups. They will not be classes stratified, but classes networked like special cells in a body. Hence the advanced or esoteric feudalism.

>>2909651
My argument was this existed before antiquity under another name and exists even today. Absolute monarchy is a phase of feudalism as this control existed on a spectrum with the underlying property relations remaining feudal. It would be like comparing hoxhaist albania and titoist yugoslavia. Even tho they had radically different power relations, the property relations were fundamentally socialist.

>>2909491
It's not a materialist analysis (or whatever these words even mean to you), it's just picking up common similarities and saying "whoa look at that ! I just discovered that the USSR was feudal !". I remember some anon on 4chan coming to the same conclusion as you but to criticize communism.
>dude look the USSR had a politburo deciding production territorially
>and look at that ! feudalism had a lord that also decided production on his territory too !
<that must mean they're one and the same

I'm guessing the austrian economics bit is you agreeing with Mises' vague truisms ?

>>2911467
These are not common similarities, but deeper analysis into otherwise separate phenomena. It is not just the USSR I applied this to. The part you should be looking to is property relations, horizontal and vertical authority relations and ideological superstructure.

>Mises

More like understanding that the market is a natural calculator of SNLT and central planning attempts to mimic it are futile and instead Central Planning is more efficiently used as a tool within a market which is also how the USSR economy in the 1930s-1950s functioned, this not being a contradiction if your goal is proprietarianism, that is people owning property. Also Yugoslavia, China etc.

>>2912521
Before I go, I have my disagreements with cybercoms on this exact point.
>Mandated Full employment and Labor credits in the way presented by proponents of cybercommunism are indistinguishable from the vision set by the WEF.
Simply put, until I see visible simulations of said system that allows for freedom, it would not be a viable system.
If so, a system of guaranteed employment renumerated by labor credits with a parallel economy of private money is beneficial. In this case, private money demand will come from the government purchasing or allowing citizens to use labor credits to purchase goods and services produced in the parallel economy.
And this system will allow for the gradual withering away of the state bordigafags like so much.



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