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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


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>>2918203
>TL;DR everyone must pay for crimes of their ancestors. i will accuse everyone of being jewish while appealing to this idea from the old testament

Collective punishment is good. The reason it doesn't apply to the Palestinians is because they don't deserve to be punished because they committed no crimes. Out of all the things you could possibly criticize Judaism for, collective punishment is one of the most retarded. Because it can also applies to the Jews themselves. Hamas is implementing collective punishment against Israel. Those music festival/dancer whores that died on Oct 7th weren't contributing anything related to Israeli military stuff and I'd wager a lot of them weren't even old enough to be conscripted into the IDF when they died, but they still deserved to die because they are financially upkeeping a settler colonial entity. Just like German civilians working under the Nazis deserved to die even if they weren't actively participating in the Wehrmacht or SS. Collective punishment is one of the best examples of class justice working itself out materially in the world. When the Haitian slaves overthrew their colonial masters they butchered them and it was based and good and should happen again since the Anglo Saxons are still imperializing them to this day.

>>2918207
>Out of all the things you could possibly criticize Judaism for, collective punishment is one of the most retarded. Because it can also applies to the Jews themselves
nice mental gymnastics
> Hamas is implementing collective punishment against Israel.
did they though. even al aqsa flood barely hurt israel. a few hundred ravers and IDF soldiers. in response israel slaughtered at least 75,000 (probably more) Gazans.

anyway you're an insane person who believes people should be punsihed for the crimes of their ancestors. there is no reasoning with you. YOU will be held accountable for YOUR insane behavior. not your son. not your grandson. YOU.

>>2918116
He doesn't to protest. It's not about the nypd.

>>2917731
why the fuck eggs so expensive

>>2918266
Because the manufacturers are colluding to raise prices and the government isn't doing anything about it.



 

What did Marx mean by this in the Communist Manifesto.
<"Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country."
>The Communist Manifesto, Chapter II: Proletarians and Communists
My three potential interpretations are as follows.
A) Marx viewed that the separation of the rural and urban populations led to conflict to due living in separate conditions. Like how we see rural populations now a day being far more reactionary than urban ones.
B) Marx viewed that alienation wouldn't just stop with abolishment of capitalism but we would to have to workers produce there own food and industrial goods. Instead of having them exchanged between city factories and country farms.
C) Marx thought the cities would dominate the surrounding country and lead to the reformation of the state.
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>>2903932
>Marx wasnt some kind of a holy prophet and his writings arent sacred texts to be followed to the letter. Its a proposition to be considered.

>>2903935
>Is abolishing wage labor or worker/capitalist distinctions also completely optional? Where do you draw the line?

I just feel like Marx is outdated now. The revolution failed and we're in a different world now. He was right… about many things, but he had blindspots. Genius tier Dunning-Krugerism.

>>2905553
Then you are not a communist if you don't believe that
>>2906078
I think he first meant that as technology develops production necessarily becomes simplified for operator, and you only need a few specialized people to keep up with maintenance of the machine. Most production is simple for the worker and only in some cases do you need someone familiar with the technical know how. I think also since this was also written in 1847 when machines were relatively simple compared to modern times.

>>2903818
>Marx talks about recovering human waste to use in agriculture instead of letting the nutrients flow into rivers and seas
Marx was collecting his own feces in jars for this same reason. There's a letter from Engels to Michael Danube complaining about the smellz in Marx's room.

>>2906710
>Marx is outdated now. The revolution failed and we're in a different world now. He was right… about many things, but he had blindspots. Genius tier Dunning-Krugerism.
About what? You didnt even say anything. That he was too optimistic regarding capitalist development?

>>2906085
Is this coming from personal experience? And communism is actually simpler than capitalism ever could be theorylet. As a matter of fact, capitalists purposely complicate education for their mode of production as well.



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>american born son of Korean Unification Church founder
>raised in US under daddys cult
>gets a modicum of power and influence
>isnt full korean so cant agree or identify with the main Korean church
>splits to create an american branch under his control
>cult of the gun
>bullet crown
>gold plated tacticool AR
>Katana rack
>fake arty shells
>crusader statue
>harley davidson logo
>podcasts
>congregation is mostly white boomer fudds
>sells shitty reproduction guns

>>2917987
I'm sure he's got enough money from his parents cult so he just does it for the ego trip

>The group exalts the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle in its ceremonies, believing it represents the "rod of iron" mentioned in the Book of Revelation that Jesus would use to assert his authority during end times.



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Why do third-worldists seethe at first world workers for demanding higher pay and better working conditions resulting in capitalists exporting all the industry aboard to maintain higher profit margins?

They don’t. This board is full of dumb schizos

>Why does [getting mad at made up shit no one said before]
I don't know OP, you tell me.



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The quote in Capital Volume 2 does not match the implication of the picture.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1885-c2/ch01.htm#4

>True, the capitalist must also be there, must also live and consume to be able to perform the function of a capitalist. To this end, he has, indeed, to consume only as much as the labourer, and that is all this form of the circulation process presupposes. But even this is not formally expressed, since the formula concludes with M', i.e., a result which can at once resume its function as money-capital, now augmented.


>C' — M' directly contains the sale of C'; but C' — M', a sale on the one part, is M — C, a purchase, on the other part, and in the last analysis a commodity is bought only for its use-value, in order to enter (leaving intermediate sales out of consideration) the process of consumption, whether this is individual or productive, according to the nature of the article bought. But this consumption does not enter the circuit of individual capital, the product of which is C'. This product is eliminated from the circuit precisely because it is a commodity for sale. C' is expressly designed for consumption by others than the producer. Thus we find that certain exponents of the mercantile system (which is based on the formula M — C … P … C' — M') deliver lengthy sermons to the effect that the individual capitalist should consume only as much as the labourer, that the nation of capitalists should leave the consumption of their own commodities, and the consumption process in general, to the other, less intelligent nations but that they themselves should make productive consumption their life’s task. These sermons frequently remind one in form and content of analogous ascetic expostulations of the fathers of the church.


It seems Marx is not promoting Dengism but rather attacking those that support "sound money" fiscal conservatives. This line stands out:
>individual capitalist should consume only as much as the labourer, that the nation of capitalists should leave the consumption of their own commodities, and the consumption process in general, to the other, less intelligent nations but that they themselves should make productive consumption their life’s task.
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>>2917263
>>>/leftypol/2917494

On September 18, the Cyberspace Administration of China issued the "Notice on Strengthening the Management of Infringing Information Concerning Enterprises and Continuously Optimizing the Online Business Environment". Here's the most imporant part in the notice (most notably 2, 4 and 5):

[…] Website platforms must proactively identify and address the following types of infringing content:

Personal information: Includes the disclosure of personal identity and contact details, such as ID cards, passports, household registration records, home addresses, and phone numbers, as well as sensitive personal data like biometric information, medical and health records, financial account details, and location tracking data.

Insults and derogatory content: Includes verbal abuse or insults directed at enterprises and entrepreneurs; the malicious parodying or caricaturing of corporate logos, products, or entrepreneurs' likenesses; maliciously linking enterprises or entrepreneurs to pornographic or vulgar topics; and using stigmatizing language to disparage enterprises, entrepreneurs, or specific brand users.

Impersonation and counterfeiting: Includes impersonating news organizations to produce or publish information regarding corporate oversight; publishing information under the guise of an enterprise or entrepreneur; and the unauthorized use of names, logos, or entrepreneurs' names and likenesses, identical or similar to those of the actual enterprise, in the names, avatars, or profiles of public accounts.

False and misleading information: Includes taking entrepreneurs' past statements out of context or distorting their meaning; displaying search keyword suggestions or landing page results that contradict the facts; republishing false information that has already been authoritatively refuted or clarified; and disseminating information that conflicts with public statements issued by the enterprise or entrepreneur via their official accounts on major platforms.

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>>2917679
its 5D chess you fucking glowie

>>2917679
>yes the chinese state will execute CEOs for fraud… but have you considered that people aren't allowed to photoshop dicks in their mouths like ina merica

>>2917679
not a reply to anything anon said btw, just completely changing the subject from deng's historical legacy in the 60s-90s to what china is doing today under xi jinping

>>2917679

>>2917821
>given how shitty my auto translator is, and how we have no idea of the context or real implementation of this, I'm gonna say you're just randomly fishing for reasons to whine about china without any actual grievance



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What does leftypol think of Larouche and his weird cult that still exists. His ideology was extremely schizophenic and he also had a huge influnce on the SDI program under Regan, with larouche claiming he created it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative
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>>2907731
Larouches have split into Xi simps and trump simps
>Although alot could be said about the similarities between LPAC and TLO/SI such as both claiming to represent the mission of the late Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr., support for authoritarian leaders, opposition to climate change, etc. There are emerging differences and I wanted to list them. Here's my top ten feel free to add. Man114, can you pin?
>LPAC
-Promotes Trump as the new Larouche
-Largely focused on domestic politics
-Appeals to baser instincts as a recruitment strategy (hate, anger)
-Narrowly focused on recruiting one constituency: Trump's base (MAGA Republicans)
-Largely concentrated on the West Coast U.S. A.
-Cult of personality (Trump) is not their organization's leader
-Has a narrow domestic agenda: 2nd Trump term, Trump dominated GOP, Republicans in control of Congress
-Ashamed of LaRouche's socialist/Democratic Party past
-Outlet for Pro-Trump right-wing propaganda
-promotes "America First" LaRouchism as a national program

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>>2908019
IVE heard of the SI I feel like LPAC is more faithful to larouche(since larouche wouldve probably done tgis) while SI is more closely aligned with ACP but with bigger deviations from Marxism
I have heard that Caleb maupin is the modern larouche which I actually agree with because they’re both weird in their views larp as labor Union bros and even down to the sex cults

>>2908065
Caleb isnt a fascist that beats CPUSA members doe

Larouche bump

>>2908019
I was looking at some MAGA infighting on X the other day (just randoms MAGA people) in the context of the Texas Senate race and this one Trump die-hard who supported the war with Iran was posting Promethean Action stuff, which is the rebranded LPAC. Wild. Apparently they think by Trump attacking Iran that he's eliminating British control over the Strait of Hormuz. BTW the weird left-coded LaRouche stuff tends to neglect how violently fascist and freakish they were in the 1980s, especially if you go back and read their literature from those days. They were ardent Cold Warriors and militarists dreaming up plans on how to maximize the death toll in a nuclear attack on the USSR but that was also combined with the international global development stuff.



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<Things are getting spicy edition

>previous bake

>>2904851

Latest News
>US started going after Iran tankers
<Iran retaliated
>Iran Launched missiles at Jordan
<Houthichads are advancing
>Saudi Oil Depots are burning
<Iran captured Anduril Underwater Drone

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>burger comes to the thread and fingers the chudranian
>chudranian spends the next hour seething at me
Art imitates geopolitics

>>2917380
>you enjoy getting insulted
More like hating on my Iranian bros is like hating cancer children. I can't bring myself to do it no matter the mental meltdown they're having about me

I don't punch down

>15% of france gas stations are out of either gas or diesel
sweet jesus look at all this winning, trump.
https://en.sedaily.com/international/2026/09/21/fuel-runs-dry-at-15-percent-of-french-stations-as-us-diesel

>>2917559
Trump is winning, US big oil is winning, France is the one who is losing

>>2917559
>>2917904
Like, you realize that NATO has de facto dissolved into USA and Europe? They are only tied by dependence on American MIC, but politically are at odds - to the point the Euros are saying bad things about Israel?



 

Fuck your property values. I demand commie blocks NOW. Your house will be worth a quarter of what it is now, and I will laugh heartily. There WILL be affordable housing.

Just remove the tourists and problems weren't

>>2917013
you can demand it but you will be outvoted when 50% or more of the population is petit rentier

Just hope the houses costs keep going up and up.
Private equity buys more property. Americans more and more become property less.
True proletarianization.
Critical support for private equity

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>>2917583
>>2917705
And then we nationalize without compensation the REITs right? Right?



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Far-left party wins Berlin election, pledging to nationalise housing
With counting still going on late on Sunday, ⁠it was already clear that her party were set to displace Merz's conservative Christian Democrats (CDU) from the mayor's office. "From today, ​we're changing Berlin together," she told celebrating party members in Berlin. The Left Party took 25.3%, ahead of the CDU on 19% and ​the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) on 16%. It also far outstripped the centre-left Social Democrats (SPD) on 12.1%.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/09/21/elif-eralp-wins-berlin-election-and-becomes-new-face-of-radical-left_6757757_4.html
https://archive.ph/gEM9R

Putin’s party wins supermajority in Russia’s parliamentary election
Yabloko and the Communist Party, which has criticised some aspects of government policy but carefully avoided any criticism of Putin, said many of their observers were turned away from polling stations. The Communists made it into parliament with 13.8 percent of the vote, securing 40 Duma seats. The nationalist LDPR party won 25 seats and the New People party 20.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/9/21/pro-putin-party-wins-supermajority-amid-ramped-up-ukrainian-attacks
https://archive.ph/Y04hW

Former Romanian presidential candidate Georgescu detained on suspicion of fraud
Romanian authorities are investigating Georgescu for committing fraud and forming an organized criminal group that prosecutors say defrauded a Romanian businessman by promising access to multimillion-euro foreign bank financing in exchange for cash guarantees.
https://www.politico.eu/article/calin-georgescu-detained-romania-fraud-investigation/
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ICE Quietly Begins Firing Purge After Ignoring Everyone’s Red Flags
ICE officials struggled to process the massive surge of applicants after the Trump administration dangled a $50,000 signing bonus in front of people’s noses, hoping to entice Americans to join the legion of officers tearing families apart. In August 2025, an ICE whistleblower wrote to the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Inspector General warning that the hiring surge had “overwhelmed” the agency, and that applicants were being cleared for duty “without fingerprints, identity verification, or credit checks.”
https://newrepublic.com/post/215433/ice-firing-purge-after-ignoring-red-flags
https://archive.ph/A9DJU

US TV networks suspend White House pool coverage over Trump media ban
The ban left CNN unable to fulfil its duties as Monday’s White House designated pool broadcaster. A coalition of four other networks – ABC, CBS, Fox News and NBC, who with CNN form part of a “pool” which take turns providing television coverage of presidential events – said they would not cover events in solidarity with CNN.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/21/trump-tv-networks-white-house-pool-coverage

Charges to be dropped against 5 pro-Palestinian protesters at Stanford after mistrial=
The defendants — one current and four former Stanford students — were among thousands of demonstrators arrested on campuses nationwide in 2024 during protests over the Israel-Hamas war. Most criminal charges were dismissed, but the Stanford students went to trial in Santa Clara County.
https://apnews.com/article/stanford-propalestinian-protest-fc0522d837c5584d94d76a0508bb907e

Key ally urges Trump to back US farmers amid anger over rising prices
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>>2917817
>Far-left party wins Berlin election, pledging to nationalise housing
big if true

Russia: Anti-war communists reject elections amid war and political repression
As Russia holds parliamentary elections from 18 to 20 September, two smaller communist parties have rejected the electoral process, arguing that it offers no genuine alternative to the policies of the ruling capitalist class and the ongoing imperialist war in Ukraine. The Organization of Communists and the Russian Communist Party (Internationalists), both of which emerged from a split in the Russian Communist Workers' Party over its support for Russia's military intervention in Ukraine, are not participating in the elections. Unlike the parliamentary Communist Party of the Russian Federation (CPRF), both organizations oppose the imperialist war and reject the political course of the Russian government. In a statement issued on 10 September, the Organization of Communists denounced the electoral process as taking place amid mounting economic difficulties, political repression and restrictions on anti-war activity. It accused the ruling class of directing growing resources toward the war while working people face deteriorating living standards and shrinking democratic freedoms.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/09/russia-anti-war-communists-reject-elections-amid-war-and-political-repression.html

How Zohran Mamdani Helped Germany’s Left Party Win in Berlin
In Berlin’s state elections, Germany’s most leftwing party Die Linke has won a significant victory – the biggest in its recent history. It could also mean that the city gets its first mayor from the party since the fall of the Berlin wall. That’s partly due to the apparently infinite influence of New York City mayor Zohran Mamdani, whose team helped supercharge the German left with the infectious positivity he’s world famous for. But it’s also down to policy – and in particular a long-standing pledge to expropriate housing from the private sector for public supply in a city where rents have soared by 70% in the last decade. Die Linke’s Elif Eralp, a human rights advocate sporting a ‘rent cap’ necklace, may well become Berlin’s first anti-capitalist mayor since reunification. The daughter of Turkish immigrants, she led the party to a clear victory in Berlin’s Sunday election, taking 26% Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

Do you wish this were your appearance, leftypol?
Are you as brave as them?
Could you handle the pressure in that chaotic and stressful environment with no conventional training and minimal funding and weaponry?
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At this point yes. Few others are willing to fight off domestic tyranny (foreign is another matter) like they are. There's a lot of African countries who should be taking cues from Myanmar but aren't and keep letting juntas walk all over them.

>>2902180
plenty of democratic experimentation going on.

The Karenni KSCC and IEC are quite interesting as an attempt at civilian governance of armed actors.

Even KIO, which is a military government still relies heavily on civil society especially the baptist church for its legitimacy.

>>2902178
Imagine saying this about ppl you'd ostensibly be fighting along side and might die with.

>>2902959
>There's a lot of African countries who should be taking cues from Myanmar but aren't and keep letting juntas walk all over them
complete instability and civil war with dozens of factions based on tribal belonging / ethnicity? dont worry, africa has those too

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