/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

The West will always win in the end.

hey guys i'm turkis now külülülu byelülü ı ı ı uyghür

>jew worshipping

uygha your meme religion wouldn't have existed without Judaism

>nailed jew
Not very pious for a Muslim to talk about one of the most important prophets in their religion like that.

Moved to >>>/siberia/787739.

>>2824013
if MLs were seriously threatening then they wouldn't be the largest party in every country representing communism

>>2824018
Ah yes, it will be you and your clique is the real movement.

>>2824021
i don't claim to be the Next Big Thing, on the other hand you imagine a future of MLism that doesn't really appear to exist, even in places where it was once strong, it simply becomes (and became) another form of socialist reformism, rather as you imagine it to be, some truly revolutionary idea

MLism is just state Capitalism. Stalin notwithstanding, they don't trend towards pedo/ephebophilia like RWers do

>>2825953
You're chimp out all over the site.

>>2825713
Well, now that the "left" rebranded as peace antimilitary it's going to be hard to implement it without backlash

>>2825716
The backlash against being conscripted is the fuel for the movement though

>>2825688
Brother we're not liberals we're fucking materialists.
ACAB "rethoric" isn't bullshit it's just acknowledging the reality that a few bad apples spoil the bunch. The police are an organized gang backed by the rule of law, they look out for each other. "Good cops" protect bad cops. That's what ACAB means. Any "good cop" would stop being a cop.

>>2825716
>>2825732
The value of conscription is essentially accelerationist in nature. It would help us in a number of ways, but it's not the sort of thing we could openly advocate for or make part of a program.

>>2825667
>i want as many people on reddit as possible
found the agent
see how these loyalty tests work in practice, anyone can just take anything you say and twist it

>>2824834
>Ok but still a liberal academic who is not a communist.
I don't care but he's a big Rosa guy iirc. Like when he wants to cope with how vulgar and trashy everything is today he reads Rosa.

>>2825300
I'm not sure how much translations would change it because "On Guerrilla Warfare" does read differently from highly technical U.S. military field manuals. Like that stuff from Mao was more like a handbook to shaping the correct mindset in guerrilla cadre because they operated independently and outside communication. Also how do you phase operations and levels of organization up or down depending on the situation. Stuff like that. It's not advice on setting up a firing position, they either had other manuals for that or just experimented because it's a peasant guerrilla army, they can figure it out.

I think some of these 60s leftists were just going on vibes. Like a lot of them were literal teenagers (or in any case quite young, few older than early 20s) who wanted to be like Che, and they just completely misread that stuff because they believed they could do in the United States what Che did in Cuba. A lot of romanticism about that. Otoh most of the Chinese Red Army in the 1930s/1940s were teens too but it was different growing up in rural China back then.

The "wise" old Fink does take his time to find the party with a less correct line. Seems book publishing money on pet topics was too good enough for such silly and embarrassing things like the communist movement.

>>2825598
>Like that stuff from Mao was more like a handbook to shaping the correct mindset in guerrilla cadre because they operated independently and outside communication.
Yeah and I can totally imagine someone who isn’t that good at translating Chinese and isn’t familiar at all with what actual war was like or what Chinese peasants were like completely misunderstanding those concepts and turning the whole thing into some kind of religious text. Also, all of the modern available translations of Mao’s military writings we have right now are basically from Griffith and other US military officials and we really have no idea what earlier translations were like.

>>2824002
Makes me wonder what will happen with the death of Western Dengism. I guess people aren't particularly wedded to ideologies like in the past so it won't make much of a splash. Still, maybe a few meltdowns here and there.

>>2825631
Even though most Americans are service or distribution workers

>>2825631
Service workers do create surplus value. Read Marx.

>>2825683
they create surplus value, but don't have any leverage because they're interchangeable and honestly kind of useless and getting replaced by the internet.

>>2825631
so true this is why america has the strongest proletarian movement

It's just resentment at the difference in quality of life, so they try to insist white collar workers aren't part of the club.

To be fair, the managerial class gets more and more bougie the higher up the ladder you go, even though in principle they should all be proles, because as you go up the incentive structure doesn't just force alignment with bourgeois imperatives but the compensation they're paid, especially at the executive level, allows them to become part of the bourgeoisie themselves, especially as shareholders.

<Inside Cuba, particularly the Business Administration Group SA (GAESA) is a holding company that controls 40% of the island’s GDP, directly administered by the Cuban Armed Forces (FAR) and linked to the Castro family. While the majority of the population lives in extreme poverty, the group controls the tourism sector by managing luxury hotels, airports, ports, travel agencies, and thousands of shops. It manages import and export operations, controlling various trade routes. It controls the flow of foreign currency, including services through Western Union and the International Financial Bank (BFI). Its financial assets, totaling tens of billions of dollars, are held in secret accounts abroad, used for massive investments in infrastructure and the private sector, at the expense of social services such as healthcare.

<Several holding companies, linked to varying degrees to the country’s largest economic conglomerate, are examples of these: CIMEX SA, owner of a network of stores, gas stations, import and export companies, restaurants, and financial services; ETECSA, the monopoly on telephone and internet services; Corp. Habanos SA, a joint venture between the State-owned Cubatabaco group and the British tobacco company Imperial Tobacco; BioCubaFarma, which groups together pharmaceutical companies; and Cubana de Aviación, the national airline that controls domestic and international flights. These are just some of the most important examples.

<Many of these companies operate through offshore companies registered abroad, often in Panama, to circumvent US sanctions, demonstrating how State capital merges with private capital.

Cuba is literally just another corrupt incompetent latin american country that uses welfarism and communist aesthetics to hide it's fundamental flaws.

>>2825103
Well is that so ? i dont want the united states invading the rest of latin america either ?

>>2825104
Neither do I. But if it happens, Cuban workers and soldiers should engage in revolutionary defeatism as the Cuban govt is not worth fighting for.

>>2825103
Even if that was the case I don't want Trump to turn Cuba into another Epstein-colony
>>2825130
You are not a leftist if you actually think this

>>2825097
Firstly, America won't accept ships which have docked in Cuba in the previous 180 (might be wrong about this figure) days. Effectively this means a cargo ship has to cross the Atlantic without docking in America, by far the largest import and export market in the region, all so they can trade with Cuba, a very small market. Financially, this makes no sense, and it results in Cuba having to pay the highest transport fee of any country on earth for their imports and exports.

Secondly, trade flows function like gravity. The closer and larger an economy, the more you will trade with it. Given its proximity and size, America should be Cuba's primary trading partner - and would be, were it not for the embargo. Cuba has to find new trading partners instead of using their natural biggest trading partner, adding to expense and harming their ability to buy and sell goods competitively.

The embargo slowly strangles Cuba and severely retards it's economic development.

>>2813922
Wouldn't Bonapartist be a better description

>>2814129
It varied quite a bit. According to Jonathan Petropoulos there were broadly three common attitudes among nobles toward the Nazis. The most common view was that of conservative nobles who saw the Nazis as an effective way to defeat the liberals and restore Germany to greatness. Many of them would have preferred the monarchy’s return, but they were ultimately willing to tolerate the Nazis.
The second group supported the Nazis, though not necessarily in a deeply ideological sense. They were deeply antisemitic but didn't care about Aryan super race stuff, they just viewed Adolf Hitler like a new Emperor figure.
The third group, which was less common but later became more famous consisted of aristocrats who disliked the Nazis, not for progressive reasons, but because they saw them as peasant socialist upstarts and resented being lectured by a Bohemian corporal.

>>2824965
There was a British intelligence study of German POWs examining their motivations for fighting. Only around 15% were genuinely committed to Nazi ideology, while about 35% said they were simply doing their duty. The remaining 50% said they were fighting for Hitler or for Germany. For most of them, loyalty to Hitler was the same kind of loyalty an earlier generation felt toward the Kaiser. I think the nobles viewed him in much the same way, overlooking his lower-class origins because they saw him first and foremost as Germany’s leader.

>>2825333
Makes you wonder where half the population that voted for the SPD and KPD went. A lot of soldiers would have been young teenagers at the time of the Machtergreifung and the threat of detention in the concentration camp system loomed over them if they were anything but enthusiastic about dying in a ditch on the eastern front, but still curious how they managed to integrate these people into the Wehrmacht.

>>2825341
Its leaders were arrested or forced to resign and parties were dissolved, so regular voters and even lay party members afterwards could only just live their lives. there were basically only two real outcomes, being a passive citizen workers a communist working with the Nazis.

Now there was active resistance, but the overwhelming majority of people generally fell into two broad camps.
One example might be a unionized factory worker in Berlin who voted for the SPD in 1932 and lost his union after the Nazis destroyed independent labor organizations. He dislikes the Nazis but has a wife and children to support. He stops attending political meetings, avoids criticizing the regime publicly, joins the Nazi Labor Front because it becomes effectively mandatory for employment, and performs outward displays of loyalty. Privately, he may complain at home, but publicly, he conforms.
The other path might be an unemployed industrial worker in the Ruhr who voted for the Communist Party of Germany during the Great Depression and later finds stable employment as Nazi rearmament expands factory work. Over time he begins to believe Nazi claims that Germany has “recovered” because of national unity under Adolf Hitler. He may never become deeply committed to Nazi racial ideology, but he becomes broadly supportive of the regime.

It's because he's Brazilian.

Cuckla (forgot xher name) said Marx is an obsolete old man while hitting the griddy during his succdem election party

>deep concern
>humanitarian aid
What exactly is the problem here? He's not summoning his nonexistent red guards to climb into the andes and declare war on Bolivia?

There's basically an ongoing revolution in La Paz right now and all OP can do is bitch about Bolivia's neighbors. Talk about burying the lede!

what can you expect from the leftist version of bernie sanders?

>>2825362
This. He's a socdem. You can't expect much.

>>2824911
In fact better question, petite bourgeoisie/bourgeoisie test
>my dad particularly owns his doctors practice and works in contract with the government as previously stated,he is the boss of the practice and has other people work for him, although he also does his own work. I’m not actually sure how his job really works or how much he owns
>my aunt and uncle both are in finance, as well as my dad, don’t really know how it works but I think it’s just bettings and investments

That’s really it, does my family even matter at this point?

>>2824911
>There is no such thing as the middle class

Read this.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1863/theories-surplus-value/ch04.htm

>>2825042
Actually I meant read this:

https://ravenwood42.home.blog/2021/01/21/marxs-conception-of-the-middle-classes-the-petty-bourgeoisie-and-the-peasantry/

But that's good too.

>>2824947
How morally bankrupt and coldly elitist was it for Marx and Engels to dismiss the "lumpenproletariat" - the most wretched, desperate, and brutally crushed victims of capitalism - as nothing more than a degenerate, passive, rotting underclass unfit for revolution, when history repeatedly shows these exact marginalized groups were often far more radical, violent, and revolutionary than the supposedly pure, disciplined industrial proletariat they fetishized?

How do I convince my stalinoid friends that trotskyism is the best ideology?