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NEVER FORGET THAT BEAUTIFUL DAY!

🇵🇸 PREVIOUSLY ON THE HOLY LAND 🇵🇸
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🚨 Live Happenings/Updates 🚨
Sites that have active live-blogs:
• Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/

• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/liveblog/ (trigger warning)
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Whatever Betar is threatened Norman Finklestein by giving him a pager

https://x.com/Betar_USA/status/1992703463474491631

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>>2576019
Old meme from back when Jewish pagers were topical. I love Fink's response tho:

>You know…. people used to think Jews were smart.

>>2575177
I hate this guy. So fucking arrogant.

https://imetatronink.substack.com/p/stealth-bombers-and-bunker-busters

Stealth Bombers and Bunker Busters

>A retrospective analysis of the so-called 12-Day War, and the triumphantly celebrated Operation Midnight Hammer.


>The GBU-57 is a big fat gravity bomb with fins. To achieve effective precision, a B-2 bomber must drop it on its intended target from no further than about five nautical miles — essentially right on top of the target.


>Its penetration depth is claimed to be 200 feet. But that capability has NEVER been tested against a seriously hardened deep-underground target encased in layers of high-performance concrete, and topped with a few dozen meters of solid rock. In that sort of real-world scenario, the GBU-57 would be lucky to drill down 50 feet, if that.


>It was always ridiculous silly talk to suggest the GBU-57 was the wonder weapon it was made out to be. There is a good reason the US only produced a couple dozen of them and then stopped: they understood its acute limitations in a non-permissive combat environment.


>And, notwithstanding the hyperbolic Israeli propaganda, there was never any credible evidence that Iranian medium- and long-range air defenses against fixed-wing aircraft were attrited to any significant degree. And Iranian short-range air defenses were increasingly effective against long-range Israeli drones with each passing day.


>As for the B-2: it is a big fat subsonic aircraft. It flies at airliner speeds. A strike on Fordow would entail flying at least 500 miles in and out of Iran.

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"turns out conservatives and reactionaries are just dumb after all" edition.

news:
- Your Party is suing itself, more at 11.
- The SNP and Plaid are going to form a "progressive alliance" somehow
- The government's going to do a switcheroo by raising income tax slightly and cutting national insurance to balance it out. (But they won't - follow this to its logical conclusion and scrap NI entirely)
- They're also considering cutting VAT on energy bills (which is the least efficient way of lowering bills you can imagine)
- The board of deputies asked Aston Villa for free footy tickets. In a worrying sign of rising antisemitism, Aston said nah.
- Labour is falling behind the Greens in the opinion polls as their strategy of copying Reform drives away their already-begrudging supporters without winning over any Reform voting reprobates. Nobody could have predicted this.
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>>2577780
>Someone make a new thread
I don't have any funny, sorry. Someone else will have to do it.

>>2577770
Counter fire aren't even an electoral party so pretty funny they've been banned too. What next are you not allowed to be a dual member of YP and the national trust?

>>2577834
Did you forget that the national trust is woke now? Of course that should be an expulsion.

>>2577620
>when stalin hand-wrote the CPGB's 1945 manifesto, he put forward something so anodyne that Your Party could plausibly adopt it.
Stalin fandom is more about a frustrated wish to be a hangman and the attraction to a social media avatar representing implacability, iron discipline and a certain amount of "violence," although AES (actually existing Stalinism) was marked by some incredibly flexible, "opportunistic" tactical maneuvers.




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Knowing the real history of American radical left-wing groups, this film is far too generous about their capabilities. In reality, they wouldn’t have killed any political figure higher than a superintendent, would likely have set off a bomb that killed a good portion of their members or been shot dead and arrested if they actually tried fighting against an armed resistance.
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>>2539975
I think Mao and Nixon raping Vietnam together also contributed

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>>2544451
Marxist-Leninist classic

>>2550192
State opression doesn't make you right, martyr.

This movie was dogshit, a truly embarrassing vanity project for Decaprio.

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>>2577903
Funnily enough, the Falangists ended up becoming a somewhat pro-Soviet RW faction in the West. Their ideology was essentially centered around opposing everything the US supported. There was even a funny incident where Falangists attended World Youth Day in Cuba on a Soviet ship. They actually got along with the Yugoslav Partisans and sang The Internationale with everyone before singing Cara al Sol (the Falangist anthem). At that point, Castro reportedly said something along the lines of:
>"Comrades! I know what you're up to!"
They then gave him a signed copy of José Antonio Primo de Rivera's speeches. Supposedly, Castro had some respect for Jose Antonio as a nationalist (and Che similarly felt the same about Juan Peron)



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Recent news:
STG sets up roadblocks on the roads leading to Suwayda, pursuant to the ceasefire agreement.
Remaining tribals in Suwayda governorate launch a last-ditch attack on Suwayda city.
Tribals enter some of the city's northwest areas. They suffer heavy casualties and retreat from the city on the same day.
Straggler tribals launch a few attacks on Druze villages here and there, nothing significant.
Overall ceasefire holds up after that. STG prevents further entry of tribals and their numbers keep dwindling.
STG releases their report on the massacres of Alawites in March of this year. They say that they aren't directly responsible.
Saudi announces they will buy a bunch of property in Syria.
Israeli and Syrian officials meet in Paris. A second meeting in Baku was cancelled.
Accusations that the STG is doing a soft siege on Suwayda governorate and worsening the humanitarian situation.
Turkey/SNA starts threatening the SDF and launches a few attacks against them in Deir Hafer and Tishreen dam.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
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Oh boy Israel just raided yet another southern Syrian city.

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Öcalan spoke mostly about Syria during the meeting:
"The March 10th Agreement between Mazlum Abdi and Shara must be implemented. Those there will listen to me, too."
Gülistan Koçyiğit, a member of DEM, who attended the Commission's visit to İmralı, explained what Öcalan said during the meeting:
"The Syrian issue was the main focus of the meeting. The delegation members also asked more questions about Syria."
"He said he attaches importance to the March 10th agreement and that it must be implemented. Perhaps it's worth noting that this is the most fundamental and underlined point in the Syrian context.
In this sense, he expressed the need for integration of the armed forces into the army, but also for local security forces.
He described one as the Ministry of Interior and the other as the Ministry of National Defense. "You can think of it as two," he said. "One will be integrated into the Ministry of National Defense as an army. The local security forces will be local security forces under the Ministry of Interior. "It could be considered that way," he said. He emphasized the need for thorough discussion of this issue.
I must say that Mr. Öcalan's stance on Syria is very constructive. He believes that the problems there can be overcome through dialogue.
And he clearly and directly stated that he would be very effective in this regard. When asked this question himself, he said, "Yes, the people there will listen to me, too."

For a very long time, the Assad regime existed, and its characteristic feature was ultimately a dictatorship, and it remained so for years. Today, there's a Sharia regime. If true democratization doesn't occur, it will ultimately lead to a dictatorship. In that sense, we must emphasize that one of the fundamental things he described as essential is local democracy.
<https://x.com/serbestiyetweb/status/1994326169127158085

>>2575263
Any update on this? I'm confused how it's related to Syria, did Syrian related factions do the attack?

>>2576810
Yeah if there's one thing dictatorships fear it's the awesome power of local democracy

>>2576951
which is why they say it has to be armed.

>>2576810
>Any update on this? I'm confused how it's related to Syria, did Syrian related factions do the attack?
semi related with Kurdish groups in Iraq that have supported the Kurdish groups in Syria, financially, militarily, and politically. also, the plants in Iraq have processed in those refineries and plants in the past, which makes me wonder if the attack was to sabotage any Kurdish income.



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If fascisms is capitalist response to a mass organized communist movement, and Trump is arguably a fascist and pushing for fascism, where is the organized communist movement of our day?
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>>2570930
The German fascist National Socialist Party arose in 1919 (the official name — National Socialist German Workers’ Party — reflected the desire of its organizers to exploit the influence of socialist ideas among German workers in the interests of extreme reaction). Amid a deepening political crisis, relying on support from major monopolies and forming an alliance with influential circles in the Reichswehr leadership, the leader (“Führer”) of German fascists, Adolf Hitler, received a mandate to form a government in late January 1933. By staging the Reichstag fire and blaming the communists (see Leipzig Trial, 1933), the German fascists within a few months completely “synchronized” the country, unleashing bloody terror on all democratic and liberal currents, imprisoning and physically eliminating all real and potential opponents of the Nazi regime. After the Communist Party, the Social Democratic Party and all traditional bourgeois parties were banned. All public organizations—especially trade unions—were dissolved; parliament was stripped of its prerogatives; all forms of public oversight over the state administration were abolished. The dictatorship mechanism created by National Socialism included a terror apparatus marked by extreme brutality (SA, SS, the Gestapo, the “People’s Court,” and other organs of fascist justice), an apparatus for organizing influence on the population (the National Socialist Party, the National Socialist Women’s League, the Hitler Youth, the German Labor Front, the “Strength Through Joy” organization, etc.), which controlled all forms of public activity, as well as an apparatus for propaganda control of the masses (headed by the Ministry of Propaganda). In close alliance with the military leadership, Hitler's government carried out a rapid militarization of Germany. A course was immediately taken toward militarizing the economy, accompanied by the implementation of various forms of state-monopolistic regulation (state investments, primarily for military purposes; tax policy; credit policy and planned inflation; administrative control over economic development; forced syndicalization or cartelization of industry; creation of new associations of monopolists, etc.). International agreements limiting Germany’s armaments were broken, and a series of aggressive acts were carried out to strengthen the military-strategic positPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2528259
Trump isn't fascist. He is a liberal. ACP is fascist, and will become popular when the communist movement starts to grow.

>>2571043
Haz is the American ᴉuᴉlossnW.
Screencap this

>>2528259
The capitalists dispense with liberal democracy when they can no longer agree on matters between themselves. This usually happens during a crisis of capitalism which tends to be associated with communist resistance. Economically, fascism mostly boils down to measures reducing overheads of commercial profit.

>>2577948
I guess I'd basically describe fascism as a civil war between the capitalists within a state. It's not really different than an inter-imperialist war but within a state rather than between states.



 

Im genuinely not sure if people are just larping for fun or something and making fun of fascists which is the good part about it. But it's stupid as in some people genuinely believe in it and also, communism is a materialist ideology hence I don't get the idealist and metaphysical thing about it. If were gonna win the propaganda war at least make it materialist and real revolution and not some metaphysical buddhist shit
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Lenin himself was obsessed with the emergence of new media and its uses for popular propaganda purposes. He would probably smack your face for writing such petit bourgeois drivel that is ultimately rooted in idealist cultural pessimism.

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>Red Shambhala: Magic, Prophecy, and Geopolitics in the Heart of Asia is a 2011 non-fiction work by Andrei Znamenski. The book explores the links between Bolshevik revolutionaries and their attempt to influence Vajrayana Buddhism in Mongolia and Tibet, as well as indigenous shamanic elements in the Russian Far East. In particular, some elements within the Bolsheviks were interested in using the apocalyptic Shambhala prophesies of the Kalachakra Tantra to influence the Buddhists into supporting Marxism–Leninism

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>>2577266
>at least make it materialist and real revolution and not some metaphysical buddhist shit

>>2577446
marx was a revisionist

>>2577570
yeah, he revised utopian socialism into scientific socialism.



 

Sooo…….Do you support making drugs legal?
To what limit and why or why not?

Whether for recreational purposes or sale, And how to combat substance abuse and life ruin caused by addiction and children's access to them if they're made fully legal.
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>>2530139
in socialism there is even less reason to criminalize drug use, the problems of drug use spreading through a population will always be less severe than the power struggle between the people selling those drugs illegally.

also life under socialism will be better, people may be able to experiment with drugs from curiosity and not from a desire to cope from the shittyness of life

>>2507952
in my state we're back to smoke shops just selling 4sub tryptamines like its the 2000s or sum shit. tbh its kinda fire that I can just go buy 4-aco-dmt gummies down the street.

nope

>>2501568
Yes because its a healthcare issue. State should have control over this disease by having doctors and other medical professionals administering drugs to addicts with the goal of having them quit completely.

>>2501568

Grow up around anybody who habitualy uses and you will always come to the conlusion that its extremely degenerate. you can make whatever choices you like though.



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Pics are Bambidbar/Numbers 31:13-18. If you are a christcuck or jew, you by definition believe that the Torah or the Torah fanfic that is the bible is the infallible word of God. These books say that when you take a town, you should kill every single person in them besides the young girls which you take as sex slaves. Why do we let these lunatics in left-wing spaces? Sure, you can make a "progressive" interpretation of these books if you erase enough words, but you can do the same with Mein Kampf. There's a reason why Marx and Lenin were so anti-religion, which modern postmodernist "communists" seem to have forgotten.
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>>2576194
Religion is weird and creepy. They also rape children.

>>2576996
Deists are fucking creepy as all hell TBH. I'd trust some illiterate peasant who believes in the big man in the sky over some Newtonian deist.

>>2576873
you're talking to a reactionary who will pretend up is down, left is right, night is day, and then either never respond when you correct him, or simply make the conversation a race to the bottom where he "wins" by being more childish. What's the point?

>>2576873
Saudi islamist cuck lmao

>There's a reason why Marx and Lenin were so anti-religion, which modern postmodernist "communists" seem to have forgotten.
Find me a single modern communist or generally leftist space where people aren't at least mildly suspicious or critical of religion.



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What should I do I humiliated myself by crying and crying endlessly to a troll that win the debate and now I am butthurt and created two threads about how butthurt I am.



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Are there any books defending the (for lack of a better word) "authoritarianism" of the USSR/DPRK and China?

A lot of the defenses of these countries I've seen from Marxists is to try and say they're not as authoritarian as we think or try and show how capitalist countries are equally or more authoritarian. But as someone who sees no problem with it is there any actual defense of the Communist Party having a strong influence?
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Very recentely (2012) brought from state archives, the book of 1965:
https://www.marxistleninists.org/Soviet%20Archives/Molotov%20Letter%20to%20the%20CC%20of%20CPCU/part%201.htm

%%Questions of History, 2011, issues 1-6, 8-11; 2012, issues 1, 3.

The funniest thing is that this document may not belong to Molotov, but to Malenkov, as stated in one of the notes to the publication.
Nevertheless, the magazine calls it Molotov's letter.
This document appears as Molotov's letter to the Central Committee of the CPSU (1964). Published in the magazine Questions of History, issues 1-6, 8-11 for 2011, and issues 1, 3 for 2012. The editorial preface states the following:

Publishing the document stored in the Russian State Archive of Socio-Political History (RGASPI, f. 82, op. 2, d. 198a) V. M. Molotov's manuscript on the personality cult of I. V. Stalin and other problems of party and state life, the editors of the journal "Questions of History" were guided by the desire to publicize the views of one of the leader's closest associates. Molotov bears considerable responsibility for the crimes of the Stalin regime.

Much of the manuscript is devoted to criticism of N. S. Khrushchev and his rule, while it contains a description of many events and facts that are interpreted from the position of a convinced Stalinist.

The publication of V. M. Molotov's manuscript, one must assume, will provoke controversial judgments among readers both regarding the assessment of many events and individuals, and regarding the position of the author himself. There is no doubt, however, that this material will also serve to establish the historical truth in its entirety.

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>>2576213
>>2576267
The communist manifesto is at odds with any concept of liberal or petty-bourgeois socialism.

<The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible.


<Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionising the mode of production.

These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.

<Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.


<1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

<2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
<3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
<4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
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>>2577472
*I forgot to post a link to the text "Marx to Dr. Kugelmann Concerning the Paris Commune":

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1871/letters/71_04_12.htm

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>north korea bad
Stop worrying sbout north korea and pay your roommates rent tardo

>>2576213
You can read pretty much any M-L literature related to the above countries. The defense will be either implicit or present in the book. Personally, I don't think it's worth justifying from either a practical, ethical, or quality of life perspective. I have read Parenti and others who sort of defended the Warsaw Pact and such, but generally speaking while I can appreciate the development, social progress and the social safety nets which were brought by the USSR to Eastern Europe while it was still a shithole, I think the "authoritarianism" attributed by some to the influence of Western imperialism was more destabilizing to the USSR and its allies than anything else in the long run.



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