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All the major wars happening right now are all bogged down and slow, nobody is doing anything, nobody winning, only both losing, or one losing more then the other very slowly.

It's boring, what happened to the gulf war shit and le hecking fast super wars cool times and death.

Nobody really wants to win. Winning means you have to govern and that's harder than fighting a war. Also less cool and boring. At least that's what I think.

>>2835807
How is losing a war better then winning won man

Fair question. The answer is that euroyanks devils are fascist demons like hitler. They desperate becauase Russia never be defeated and never stop. Iran never be defeated and never stop. And the zioeuroyank settler exploiter and oppressor class bloc support their wars, like CPUSA against iran and venezuela.they support the war because the war because zioyank real wages tend to rise from them
>what happened to the gulf war shit and le hecking fast super wars cool times and death.
Because third worldism is stronger and firstworldismist hitlerite yankdevil grow more desperate and rapacious like hitlerite paper tiger they are
>>2835807
Euroyank settler devils really can fight to lose or to stalemate (like the jewish immigrant colonizers often do) becauae the zio-yank settler class bloc formation benefit from all the turmoil they cause. Their gas prices prove this general material law, as yank gas prices are very low relative to globe, lower now than bidenomic mode of production somehow.

>>2836008
me big communist. you small euroyank. you are devil. me win big communism. you win box under ground.

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>>2835791
>It's boring, what happened to the gulf war shit and le hecking fast super wars cool times and death



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You only have two factions


Based anti-imperialist nations that resists against the western decadence and liberating nations from degeneracy


LGBT NAFOISm Euro colonialism trans groomers shoved down to throat with cultural imperialism ideology to the East, destroying traditional values of families.


I wish Burkina Faso solidarity during LGBT Imperialism month
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>>2836099
umm LGBT is the name of a think tank or something, idk i just make it up as i go along

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>>2835931
>LGBT NAFOISm Euro colonialism trans groomers shoved down to throat with cultural imperialism ideology to the East, destroying traditional values of families.

Fun fact: Anti-gay laws in Africa were literally a product of European colonialism

>>2835931
"The fight against imperialism is a sham and a humbug" - Lenin.

>>2835931
Just lost another village to ISIS btw

Whichever will get me white chuds and black twinky fags.



 

Recently saw a discussion in regards to "Third Worldism" as in MLM + unequal exchange (a non-Wallerstinian branch of world systems theory) having grown in influence in the anglophone/western, largely online, "communist" spaces.
Here is my dialectical engagement, as they were on to something important, not usually recognized, but also partially incorrect. I attempt to correct it ITT.

Unequal exchange, Mao/Chinese aesthetics and purely performative MLM rhetoric has grown in recent years… But with time comes change.

The original 90s ThirdWorldism "movement", centered in north-america diverged from MLM on a variety of theoretical issues, most crucially the revolutionary nature of the proletariat. They supplemented their divergence with integrating post-Marxist turns happening in word-systems theory (which was ongoing in western academia between the 80s and 90s). As ""Maoism" ThirdWorldism" largely accomplished nothing, other than maybe increasing confusion in the communist movement during the era of blackest reaction, we mostly remember them by their cartoony writing and online media available through archives from that era.

So if 90s Third Worldism was a north-american revisionist offshoot from MLM which integrated non-Wallerstinian unequal exchange theory and rejecting revolution in the imperial core for rhetorical "support" of [far off, peripheral countries]… What are the particularities of the contemporary expression?

2020s Third Worldism can be observed as being a north-american right-wing revisionist movement which retains both the non-Wallerstinian unequal exchange theory and the purely symbolic appeals to Mao, but now replacing the "MLM" pretender framing for the simpler, safer state ideology of social-imperialist China; that also just so happens to feign adherence to 'Mao Zedong Thought', even after it was systematically replaced with the Bukharinist-Dengist capitulationist counterrevolution. which is continued today, the true basis for Xi Jinping Thought, as the bureaucrat-monopoly capitalist heading the political line of the party has only deepened the cementation of a new pole in the capitalist imperialist world system since Deng, when neither as many NEZ, stock markets, overall % of bourgeois in the party or billionaires existed in China. Mao Zedong Thought lives on in the rural and urban areas of any militant area of the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Thesis of the OP is getting stronger by each month, as was easily predicted.

Also someone needs to crop DJ Prashad ball gurgling Mamdani from the link in the OP too, it is becoming more relevant by the day in exposing the astroturfed "ML" network allowed to recuperate the discontent across the anglophone the last couple of years, funneling it straight back into 1. bourgeois "politics" 2. labor aristocratic & petty-bourgeois economic activity.

No one cares about your inter-leftoid conflict

>>2834149
Shut up engineer, dialectics are at play.

>>2758817
>Torkil Lauesen
Oh, this Torkil Lauesen?:
https://lemmy.ml/post/41148785
>Quote open:
Many comrades know that one of my side projects, is recording audiobooks and putting them on youtube and torrents for all to listen.
Many times when I record a book, its the first-reading, so if it turns out to be a bad book, I can always stop recording, and move on to the next one. Usually this happens early on in the book, as its fairly easy to tell if an author has anything of value to add.
Based on ComradeHakim’s recent book recommendation video, I decided to read something from an author I hadn’t before, Torkil Lauesen’s - The long transition towards socialism and the end of capitalism. PDF here
There were a few red flags early on in the book, that made me suspect that Lauesen was either a Trot or ultra-left (an idealist definition of socialism, a claim that the USSR wasn’t socialist), but it was difficult to discern, because the early part of the book was about early socialist history (the internationals), and didn’t make too many firm judgements.
It took until about 40% of the book was done, probably 7+ hours of recording wasted, until Lauesen shows his ultraleft politics. Chapter 12 is where it really comes out (you can read it in the pdf linked above). Some of his points:
He denounces the USSR as not socialist, and abandoning Marxism in favor of building a “state bureacracy”.
Denounces socialism in one country as abandoning internationalism.
Citing trotskyist writers like Deutscher to claim that Stalin was “authoritarian”, and a “schemer”, and ruthlessly eliminating/purging opponents.
Stalin is painted in the standard western caricature as a ruthless self-serving bureacrat who subverted socialism to build his own power.
Groups Lenin and Stalin as the “right-wing” of the bolsheviks while Trotsky represented the “left”.
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Ecuadorian Environmental Defender Found Dead After Reporting Corruption and Threats
For at least a year, Silva-Koniuszek had been denouncing the irregular sale of more than 700 hectares in the Capaes area, where the land was sold without a public auction in 2022 by then-Mayor Otto Vera Palacios for US$6.2 million. The case gained prominence because the transaction allegedly involved the administration of La Libertad Mayor Francisco Tamariz.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/ecuadorian-environmental-defender-found-dead-after-reporting-corruption-and-threats/

Final countdown to defuse protests against Mexican government ahead of World Cup opening game
Only 24 hours remain before the World Cup kicks off in Mexico and the country is going though its final dress rehearsals. Preventing demonstrations on opening day is already a pipe dream: negotiations with teachers have stalled and search groups will march to make their missing relatives visible.
https://english.elpais.com/international/2026-06-10/final-countdown-to-defuse-protests-against-mexican-government-ahead-of-world-cup-opening-game.html

Global Union Urges Sanctions on Myanmar Regime Over Labor Abuses
The junta has moved to dismantle labor protections, scrapping tripartite mechanisms between workers, employers and the government, while cracking down on trade unions and jailing or exiling labor activists. Addressing the ILC, IndustriALL general secretary Atle Høie stressed that around 450,000 garment workers in Myanmar earn under US$100 a month—about half the living wage. He said factories operating under martial law expose workers to military checkpoints, harassment, unpaid overtime and the threat of forced conscription.
https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/myanmars-crisis-the-world/global-union-urges-sanctions-on-myanmar-regime-over-labor-abuses.html

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US military chief Hegseth warns Cuba against acquiring military arms
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth has warned that Cuba could invite confrontation with the United States if it seeks to bolster its military capabilities with new purchases. Wednesday’s comments come as US President Donald Trump continues to threaten possible military intervention on the Caribbean island.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/6/10/us-military-chief-hegseth-warns-cuba-against-acquiring-military-arms
https://archive.ph/shcaK

US railroad CSX plans to reduce human track inspections following government waiver
This technology, used in conjunction with human visual inspections, can be used to greatly increase railway safety and reduce derailments, which currently occur at a rate of roughly three times a day in the United States. Instead, they are being used to cut jobs on behalf of profit. Not all track defects are detectable by ATI. A CSX track inspector told the World Socialist Web Site: “The automated systems can only inspect the track they run on, and due to logistical reasons, dispatchers route these trains down the same tracks every time. My territory has passenger traffic, and two additional tracks that the automated systems will never run across.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/06/10/eplx-j10.html

After a Democrat standoff, Trump signs $70bn immigration enforcement bill
United States President Donald Trump has signed into law a $70bn funding bill for immigration enforcement, capping a months-long standoff with Democrats after the killing of two US citizens. The legislation signed into law on Wednesday provides funding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) for at least the remainder of Trump’s term.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/6/10/after-a-democrat-standoff-trump-signs-70bn-immigration-enforcement-bill
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Germany Is Staging Its Own Palestine Action ‘Show Trial’
Germany is prosecuting five activists alleged to be part of Palestine Action Germany in what their lawyers have described as a “show trial” intended to stigmatise protesters “as [if they were] terrorists” and which legal experts argue shows a “deeply concerning development” in how the state is targeting political protest. The so-called Ulm 5, who are from the UK, Germany, Spain and Ireland, are currently on trial at a high-security court at Stammheim prison in Stuttgart following a break-in at offices of the Israeli arms firm Elbit Systems in Ulm, southwestern Germany, in September 2025. The defendants face charges of trespassing, property damage and using the symbols of a proscribed organisation. They have also been charged with belonging to a criminal organisation under Section 129 of the German Criminal Code – a controversial piece of legislation human rights lawyers say is being used to “blur the line between organised crime and the legitimate exercise of people’s freedom of assembly and expression” such that the case will “have a chilling effect on others who are considering engaging in political protest”.
https://novaramedia.com/2026/06/09/germany-is-staging-its-own-palestine-action-show-trial/

Factory Occupation at Fiat – An excerpt from “March 1973. Red Flags at Mirafiori”
“The moment the struggle becomes your own, it’s a moment of proletarian celebration, where everyone manages to find their own identity; they’re no longer cogs in a machine, they’re a series of minds coordinating and directing themselves and others. Otherwise, what would be the point of occupying a factory?“ We translated this text by Chicco Galmozzi, originally published by Machina. You can watch a longer interview with Chicco Galmozzi here:[https://www.labournet.tv/en/videos/Chicco]. He was a worker and activist with Lotta Continua. In 1974, he participated in the founding of the Communist Committees for Workers’ Power linked to the newspaper “Senza Tregua”, and in 1976 he was among the founders of Prima linea. Arrested in May 1977, he earned his high school diploma and college degree during his twelve years in prison. TPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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Why does the left not focus on cooperativization rather than nationalization of industries? If we did manage to replace every company with a cooperative, would that not still be some kind of proto-Socialist position, albeit with markets still intact?
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Cooperatives aren't managed in the democratic interest of the working class but the profit interest of a given group of workers. It could have a place in a socialist economy but would have to rely on mass cybernetic and nationalized industry and it stands in the way of progressing to a labor based currency/credit system; and also complicated linprog planning because we don't set end prices at clearing rates. Also cooperatives only really make sense at the end of the production chain.

>>2835204
read the rest of the reply, that wasn't the main point.

>>2835277
the criticism of cooperatives for existing in a capitalist economy is the same as the criticism of AES for existing on a capitalist planet is the same as saying "so you want to improve society yet you live in society and are forced to act within society? curious!" it's just a dumb way to attack the real movement in favor of some idealist global simultaneous overthrow of capitalism, wage labor, the commodity form, and exchange value everywhere at once.

>>2835115
This is called a smychka

>>2835129
>>2835130
>the value of a political theory lies in how many revolutions the theoretician personally started
by this logic the CIA is the ultimate revolutionary theorist since they have started hundreds of color revolutions.



 

One of the most hollowing things about being a leftoid is just how much bad behavior is automatically given to you just because you want to live in a world where people don't starve or whatever and there could be more free time to do well whatever the fuck uyghas want to do. Yet leftoids are said to always have these Dysgenetic traits while rightiods get to portray themselves as the yes chad and we get saddled with soyjaks and shit. Even people who are just vaguely sympathetic to our cause is also getting that treatment and other such shit. "Conservatives/Chuds are the real punk rock/edgelords/contrarians" "Conservatives/Chuds are the real tolerant people", "Conservatives are all fit" yet if you ever bring up rural/urban obesity rates or notice how fucking ugly, the very obvious gap in autism score s between rightiods and leftoids, how much social conservatives have larger amygladas (Thus they feel fear and disgust more, not very stoic of them), how they think they can't even win a fight against DONALD TRUMP or even worse MID LOOKING all these rightiod look like and yet you still have vtubers and shit saying they want to be impregnated by Asmongold!

Being a leftoid is basically having no fucking ego defense and you have to be much more fit, intelligent and other such qualities to get ass while centroid/chud men get it easier despite them not even needing to be HALF of any of things we have to do.
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>>2834039
This zionist is trying to split us

>>2834039
Based and correct position.

>>2834039
Mods permaban this bordigger

>>2833377
>>2833420
>>2833363
Maybe the answer is evident:
The west is morally demonic and hence not worthy of being saved. The average westoid is a demon worshipper. If the west does not subjugate the rest of the world a la palantir manifesto, it will destroy itself. You can't do a revolution in a satanic society. Just work on what happens after the civil war leftychuds.

>>2833982
>Graham apparently cheat on his wife
Graham never married lol.



 

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>>2835653
I have no preference because it doesn't matter which faction of the imperialist bourgeoisie wins. They're both class enemies with no progressive capacity that play a cooperative role in ensuring America moves further to the right every year.

>>2835660
>antifascist
if then dem r
so is the the republicuck
why singling when both sides r gay or the one guy that's the least war criminal-e

>>2835725
>Le enlightened centrism
Fuck off fash

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>>2835755
anon it's kinda retarded to fall for yet another "progressive" dem especially one that did 4 tours of duty in 2 zionist wars and then went on to work for blackwater and marry into an AIPAC family. he uses fetterman's campaign agency even. vote for him if you want but expect disappointment.



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What exactly is the end goal here? Like, seriously. You agitate, you destroy, you provoke. Let's say you actually spark that civil war you keep hinting at. Then what? Who runs the rubble? How do you feed people? What's the phase-two plan beyond hoodrat behavior and manifestos?

Because from where I'm sitting, all I see is chaos for chaos's sake. And I can't figure out how that gets you closer to socialism than, I don't know, winning a school board seat or organizing a tenant union. Legal avenues are slow and boring, sure, but at least they don't end with you getting drone-striked in a parking lot by 2032.

So help me understand. What comes after the bang? Or is the bang the whole point? because to me it seems maoists and anarchists in the USA are some of the loudest yet some of the most disorganized and chaotic bunch. they seem to know how to agitate but not do much more. chaos for chaos sake is what is giving.

From the way CHAZ went, I think it's insanity that any leftists would automatically trust you guys to do any of this on a much larger and more dangerous scale. You have passion, but not much brains, and you always end up devolving right back into chaos. That's all you're capable of iss chaos. This is why most communist parties hold the line that Maoism is just anarchism rebranded in the 60s. Most serious communist parties believe this, not just the CPUSA.

LLM, Langley, hegemony over an eerily vacant leftypol, 2026.

The most ironic thing is that adventurists always call the leftists who didn't deviate from true socialism to racial extremism glowops but the reality is that adventurist racialists themselves are the bread and butter of glow ops. Think about it. Everything Anarchists and Maoists have done over the last fifteen years has made things harder and more divided. Division does not lead to class war. It leads to chaotic reaction, police state targeting of groups that have limited means of defense and a population that gets driven into the arms of reactionary people and rulers because adventurists committed mass acts that the masses wasn't ready for. So now they've actually made it harder to do real work for leftists.

Antifa has pretty much become the new word for these types of communists. Go ask your average worker what they think of a democratic socialist, then ask what they think of antifa no matter what the race they'll fucking hate antifa. They're not hating the organization Antifa that's just the mainstream term for the adventurist leftoid. shows you how connected they are to the workers. these people are the jobless mentally ill at least the dsa actually has connections to people in unions and labor movements.. you know like actual socialists? you idiots arent communists your just national liberation 3rd world larpers who hate the west.

>>2835587

I'm not a bot you bumbling idiot. I just typed all of this. I got bad news for you, if you don't want bots, you cant play the game of guessing whats A.I or not, you just have to go outside or accept that a good portion of interaction will be bots. why do you even care so much? is the internet all you got? what are you bound to a couch like some fat disabeled faggot? typical leftychan user.

I hate americans so much



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Literally just abolish ALL taxes except a SINGLE progressive INCOME tax.

Virtually all taxes are a scam to steal money from the proletariat.

Property taxes? Money stolen directly from house owning proles and indirectly from renters to fund local capitalist government.

Sales tax/VAT? Money stolen from proles who just want to spend their hard earned money on things to survive and maybe enjoy a bit.

Payroll taxes? What a gigantic fucking scam. You are already fleeced by income taxes but now you are double fleeced by ANOTHER income tax that most don't even know or think about.

Social security/Medicare/equivalents in your country? What is the purpose of this when you already pay income tax? Why seperate this out? To guilt trip you into paying for something your exploiter needs to pay.

"Income" tax? It's a WAGE TAX. Porky makes his money from profits, capital gains, dividends, rents, financial boondoggling etc. Those things are taxed at much lower rates than they should be.

Here's what a pro-worker tax policy looks like. At the end of the year, you add up your total income - your salary + rental income + capital gains + dividends + literally anything that is "actually earned income"
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>>2833315
Abolish the government

>>2833516
>USSR had sales tax therefore sales tax in porkoid dictatorship is fine
you seem to be unaware that most things that are bad in capitalism are good in a DotP and vice versa. let me put this into easy steps that you can hopefully grasp
1) abolish VAT, income tax and all other taxes on labour
2) institute 100% tax on capital
3) deal with porkies porking out
4) re-institute VAT, income tax etc once porky is gone, because these things aren't categorically wrong

>>2833531
Abolishing taxes on labor just subsidize industry, it's no different than how Walmart workers rely on food stamps. It's a liberal policy to reduce the cost of labor. It's no different than public housing and so on. I'm not totally against it of course.

>>2833516
Sales tax is a regressive tax that shifts the tax burden on to workers. It is unacceptable.

>>2833531
In a DotP with a capitalist economy, the effect of taxes remain the same. Sales tax/VAT continues to remain a regressive tax that reduces purchasing power of labor of the poorest section. You should have a progressive income tax here as well, since not all workers will have the same wages. The higher earning workers will have to pay more.

>>2833533
Wrong. A "subsidy" is something that reduces cost in one sector while shifting that cost burden to another sector. Reducing wage taxes while increasing taxes on profits/dividends/capital gains cannot be a subsidy to industry because they will cancel out.

Land value taxes and severance taxes would not create the deadweight loss of an income tax. China basically does this through nationalising land and leasing it out and this works great for them



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Leftcoms hate me for not worshiping US freikorp genetically prole military

MLs hate me for reading Marx and Lenin

Anarchists hate me for being anti-petite authoritarian

Leftists hate me for opposing my brown bourgeoisie

Good thing the real movement is historically absent and these embarrassing people won't amount to anything ever
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>>2833995
Who… are you?

>>2834500
>>2834513
>Unironically doing the "using slurs but in a cool leftist way"
🤭

>>2834513

lumpen are counter revolutionarys who need to be dealt with in the langauge of force. adventurists too.

>>2835569
>"Force" meaning "calling the cops" since this is the ChatDSA glowie with /leftypol/ Special Powers

>>2834513
narcs or not its still a slur if you use it unironically



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