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You know there are actually two NATO's?
Class A NATO and Class B NATO.
Class A - Germanic NATO.
Class B - Slavic NATO.

When there would be an actual attack on NATO Class B, it doesn't mean the Class A (Germanic) will go and send their soldiers to fight the attacker.
You will not read about this in official documents and statements, but this is the reality.

If for example, Putler would attack the baltics, we might see Poland, Romania and maybe Finland and Sweden, fighting.

NATO is a paper tiger, Putler is already doing hybrid war against baltics, Poland, Romania, but NATO is not reacting at all, they don't respond with hybrid war against Russia.
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I think the division is more down to the “old powers” looking out for number one.
The UK, France and Germany aren’t going to agree amongst them who’s elected to be the battleground for a war (let’s face it, it’d be Germany again) so expanding to conquer former Soviet and Warsaw Pact nations is, on the one hand more likely to spark war, but on the other has the irresistible benefit that war will be fought on someone else’s territory. Their former adversaries’ in fact.

It’s genius, if it weren’t for the fact WW3 is exceedingly unlikely to remain conventional. So in practice they’ve just brought us closer to nuclear war than at any point in the Cold War because potentially a Russia-NATO war stops with negotiations with Ukraine getting rekt rather than Germany.

Germanics never planned to defend the Slavs if Russia invades. It was fake from the beginning.

>Class B
also known as Butthurt Belt

>>2901350
I notice that Pakistanis self-brainwash themselves a lot to make contradictory ideas make sense. Like how Pakistan is a US ally and receives US weapon and aid and attacked Afghanistan while simultaneously pretending to be anti imperialist. Turkiyiyiyie is also the same, simultaneously LARPing as Brics while being a NATO member.

>>2901358
>Russia will feel confident to invade Poland and Lithuania
i wish they would



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Brazilian presidential candidate stages a falseflag, blames Leftypol
Yesterday, someone in Leftypol's latam board posted a death threat to Renan Santos, a Brazilian candidate in this year's presidential elections. Within (what I believe to be) seconds, it was deleted by the own OP. Reportedly no one saw that post, but it is in the board's log. Some hours later, websites and social media started circulating this as (minor) news, and Renan Santos promptly recorded a video (related) wearing a bulletproof vest saying he's being threatened by radical leftists in an obscure imageboard, who intended to kill him on his next speech at an university (the most famous one in Brazil), yadda yadda.
Renan Santos is a member of MBL and its Missão party, which are alt-right organizations that are somewhat popular with the Brazilian youth. He is ranking low, at only 4% of estimated votes in the upcoming elections, but he ranks higher with young voters, and will probably scoop a third place behind Lula and Bolsonaro's son.

Thoughts?
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>>2892901
that's crazy. are tech fascists so paranoid about leftists that they're monitoring us? we literally have no influence anywhere on the internet and i doubt more than 3k people post here

HOLY SHIT KEKKKKKK

i killed him last month ama

I want to wish the anon who made the post a very happy brazil or whatever they celebrate there

we did it reddit



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A thread for the forgotten continent, so forgotten the thread got wiped.
Discuss anything related to:
>Algeria
>Angola
>Benin
>Botswana
>Burkina Faso
>Burundi
>Cabo Verde
>Cameroon
>Central African Republic (CAR)
>Chad
>Comoros
>Congo, Democratic Republic of the
>Congo, Republic of the
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>>2881092
And white reactoid's agenda is 99% compatible with the Shariah, yet the overwhelming majority still screech about muzzies.
They just don't mingle with swarthier people, strategic advancement of their own goals be damned.

An Invasive Mosquito Is Spreading With Alarming Speed, Threatening Africa’s Cities

An invasive, malaria-carrying, insecticide-resistant mosquito that thrives in cities, where malaria has not been a major threat, has moved farther and faster across Africa than even pessimistic scientists had feared. And many public health experts believe it is too late to eliminate, or even contain, it.
A new genomic analysis of the mosquito, called Anopheles stephensi, using specimens collected from 10 countries, showed that those found in Africa had genetic resistance to all of the chemicals currently used in spraying campaigns and other mosquito-control efforts, meaning those insecticides will not kill it.

Before stephensi arrived in 2013, Djibouti was on the cusp of declaring malaria eradicated. In 2012, there were just 27 cases. A year after stephensi was found, cases shot up to nearly 1,700. Each year thereafter, the number crept up, and in 2020, there was an explosion: more than 70,000 cases.
The spread of stephensi is yet another setback in an already sputtering battle with mosquitoes in Africa. In 2024, there were nine million more malaria cases than in 2023. While the full 2025 data is not available yet, and will be less comprehensive due to health program funding cuts, there are clear signs that malaria is resurgent.

https://archive.is/TMjZ7

COSATU's ANC support faces test as SACP eyes 2026 local elections
>COSATU will decide at its 15th National Congress whether to stick with its ANC support or broaden its position as affiliates seek mandates on backing the ANC or SACP in the 2026 local elections.
https://www.ewn.co.za/2026/08/25/cosatus-anc-support-faces-test-as-sacp-eyes-2026-local-elections

Vidrel: National Education, Health and Allied Workers' Union (NEHAWU) has resolved to support the South African Communist Party
NEHAWU has resolved to support the South African Communist Party as it prepares to contest the 2026 Local Government Elections independently. The decision, solidified during NEHAWU's 13th National Congress, marks a massive fracture in the labour movement's traditional "vote ANC" stance. Nehawu's new president Nyameka Macanda says they believe the SACP is the vanguard of the working class.

Conference of the Left signals realignment in South African politics
While ideological differences among participating organisations remain substantial — particularly on questions of nationalism, socialism, Pan-Africanism, electoral strategy and the role of the state — the conference nevertheless signals a growing recognition that fragmentation on the left has strengthened neoliberal and centrist forces.
The possibility of tactical cooperation among left-leaning organisations could therefore herald the emergence of a new political bloc capable of reshaping opposition politics in South Africa.

For the ANC and the DA, such a development would pose a serious challenge. The ANC risks losing even more of its traditional working-class support base, while the DA could become increasingly identified with defending the status quo within the GNU.
Should a coherent left alternative emerge, it could fundamentally alter the ideological terrain of South African politics in the years ahead.

Whether the Conference of the Left becomes a genuine vehicle for left unity or remains merely another symbolic gathering will depend on its ability to move beyond rhetoric and achieve organisational coherence, ideological clarity and effective mass mobilisation.
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tfw the equatorial guinean I am talking to has better internet speeds than me

>>2901161
CGTV interview with GS of SACP Solly Mapaila.
<vidrel
Statement on the 105th anniversary of the South African Communist Party and the launch of the 2026 Local Government Election Manifesto
https://www.politicsweb.co.za/news/on-the-sacp-manifesto-for-lge-2026-solly-mapaila



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Community dangles SACP hat to rejected ANC candidate councillor in Madibeng
A councillor chosen by the ANC branch under the Madibeng municipality is being rejected by the party in favour of another candidate, prompting some community members to push for their preferred candidate to contest the ward under the South African Communist Party (SACP) banner. Councillor John Raletele has been approached to stand as an SACP candidate after the ANC moved to reject his nomination for another term as ward councillor in Madibeng.
https://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2026-08-26-community-dangles-sacp-hat-to-rejected-anc-candidate-councillor-in-madibeng/
https://archive.ph/cMIDQ

Dozens killed in rebel attacks on Sudan’s Kordofan, medical group says
A medical organisation has accused a Sudanese rebel group aligned with the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF) of killing 27 people, including four children, in the southern province of South Kordofan. In a statement on Tuesday, the Sudan Doctors Network said the killings were carried out by the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM-N) in Qardud and Abu Hamama, areas inhabited by the Otoro tribe in South Kordofan.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/8/26/dozens-killed-in-rebel-attacks-on-sudans-kordofan-medical-group-says
https://archive.ph/gQEl5

US designates Palestine Action activist group 'Specially Designated Global Terrorist'
Wednesday's decision comes a year after the United Kingdom banned the group for damaging materials at weapons factories run by Elbit Systems. Elbit is a key provider of weapons to the Israeli military, which has for nearly three years carried out what the United Nations and Holocaust scholars have called a genocide in the Gaza Strip. Palestine Action is now sanctioned in the US "for having materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods and servicePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

‘Still Crickets’: Warren Reminds RFK Jr. of Pledge to Publish Secret Trump Deals With Big Pharma
Nearly two weeks after US Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote to the Trump administration’s top health official in her latest attempt to get answers on “secret pricing deals” with Big Pharma, the Massachusetts Democrat said Wednesday that she is still waiting for the White House to make the terms of the agreements public.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-big-pharma

Labor Department taps tech giants for AI jobs data
The private sector data would supplement traditional government statistics, giving BLS more information about how companies are adopting AI and what that could mean for workers. Sonderling said the findings will be made public.
https://www.axios.com/2026/08/26/labor-department-tech-giants-ai-jobs-data
https://archive.ph/PogqT

Trump signs order banning some foreign equipment from US energy grid
Under the order, certain foreign-produced bulk-power system electric equipment, including associated critical ​software and digital capabilities that could pose cybersecurity or ​operational ⁠risks, will be barred from being purchased or installed in the United States, the White House said in a statement. The order also asks the U.S. ⁠Energy ​Secretary to impose conditions on the continued ​use and operation of such equipment to address concerns identified by the Trump administration, ​the White House added.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/trump-signs-order-banning-some-foreign-equipment-us-energy-grid-2026-08-26/

Brooklyn Dems pass rules to stymie reformers
Reformers aligned with Peña vowed to re-file a suit to block the changes in court Wednesday morning, arguing the manner the rules were changed was illegal. A judge already denied a motion to halt the vote Monday, ruling there hadn’t been any harm yet. “I’m disappointed, mostly because tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

The Conspiracy Is Us
Some of the documents that have been released by the Federal Government during discovery for the case of the MN15 are telling. The 15 are community activists, union activists and officers who were charged by the Feds with conspiracy to inflict harm and commit violence against ICE agents; the latter were carrying out their “duty” of abducting, injuring, and murdering civilians on the streets of the Twin Cities. The defendants face prison terms of anywhere from five to twenty years. The hub-and-spoke network diagram of 18 organizations that the government says they believe were part of, related to, or financially supporting a vast criminal conspiracy to do violence against and obstruct the lawful work of Federal agents. With the word “CONSPIRACY” written in all caps across the top of the page, the document purports to expose the super secret illegal collaboration between a sprawling web of “domestic terrorists” or “Antifa” (a term made up by the right to describe a non-existent organization: Antifa is actually just shorthand for “anti-fascist,” a label that one would hope nearly any well-informed resident of the U.S. could get behind). In the middle of the circle is Direct Action Minnesota (DAMN), the organization alleged to be (literally) “at the center” of this so-called conspiracy, with lines connecting each of the orgs to that hub, like the spokes on a wheel.
https://www.leftvoice.org/the-conspiracy-is-us/

No, the Democratic Party is not shifting on Israel
We have now reached a point where the shift in attitudes towards Israel can no longer be ignored. A May poll by New York Times/Siena suggested that nearly three-quarters of Democratic voters did not approve of aid for Israel. Another survey by Quinnipiac University showed that 66 percent of Democrats thought the US was too supportive of Israel. A poll published in April by Pew Research found that 80 percent of Democrats viewed Israel unfavourably – up from 53 percent in 2022. These numbers have made the Democratic leadership realise that open support for genocidaires is becoming too costly politically. Democratic voters, who watched a livestreamed genocide, clearly no longer see Palestine as a secondary issue in their political and moral choices. This awareness has finally come after Democratic leaders spPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2901094
>A councillor chosen by the ANC branch under the Madibeng municipality is being rejected by the party in favour of another candidate, prompting some community members to push for their preferred candidate to contest the ward under the South African Communist Party (SACP) banner. Councillor John Raletele has been approached to stand as an SACP candidate after the ANC moved to reject his nomination for another term as ward councillor in Madibeng.
Based. There was some rumbling that the SACP, and maybe some of the radical unions, was going to break from the ANC, hope it comes and they find success.

>>2901094
>>2901137 (You)
From earlier in the year:
The South African Communist Party (SACP) was the backbone of the African National Congress (ANC) for the entirety of the fight to defeat the racist apartheid white colonial settler regime that had subjugated the majority black population.
But the ANC has now decided to issue an “ultimatum” to communists who are members of this strategic alliance that was forged in the bitter and deadly fight for liberation.

This comes after the SACP decided to independently fight this year’s local government elections.
The ANC appears to accept the existence of the SACP as a political party, but only if it subordinates itself. In what appears to be a communist witch-hunt the ANC has now demanded declarations from members of the SACP and threatens action against those it believes are acting for the party’s campaign.
This move, which threatens the future of the historic alliance, is far from a minor procedural disagreement. It amounts to an attempt to reinterpret the alliance and dual membership in narrow electoral terms.

It seeks to reduce a historic strategic relationship into a one-sided demand for subordination and permanent support from an ally.
The SACP has always supported the right of the ANC to contest elections in its own right.
The SACP has never regarded the ANC as an enemy for contesting elections in its own right and has never disciplined or threatened any of its members for participation in building, voting for and campaigning for the ANC.

In fact, the SACP has not only embraced the ANC contesting elections in its own right but has also supported the ANC’s electoral contests.
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Why does the demon colony invests in "high tech" so much and brands itself "startup nation"?

meow meow
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>>2900679
>original contribution
probably not
>parasitizing inventions
this is the nature of invention, to spread and be used, even by people who you would like not to use it. I do not endeavor to praise the concept of intellectual property which tends to seek endless generations royalties and is thus also parasitic, especially in the case of patent trolling

>>2900675
This, but also it's a way for a small country with few natural resources to remain economically relevant. Just look at Taiwan with their semiconductors.

>>2900766
This.

Israel has always been afraid of getting embargoed. They were actually under a U.S. arms embargo during the '48 war, and then worked with France until '68 when France cut them off and then got back in with the U.S., but have since the beginning tried to do as much as they can themselves. For the military their strategy has been to produce at least one major weapon system in each category in Israel. The hardest thing was making airplanes which they never quite managed to do themselves. But in the 1970s they started making their own tank, for example. They'd make their own radio, and their own submachine gun, the Uzi. Then they'd sell radios and Uzis to all kinds of evil governments like South Africa during the Cold War at a lower price point than Western countries.

A lot of military hardware also isn't weapons but kind of niche stuff, like specific components. So Israel wouldn't make every component but they'd try to get good at specific things, so when Vietnam wants to upgrade their old Soviet armored vehicles with a new fire-control system, Israel will sell it to them and do the upgrades and they don't care about who they do business with. Or India, which has historically bought more Russian stuff than American stuff. (The U.S. has historically sold a lot more weapons to Pakistan than India.) Also the influx of Jewish engineers and scientists from the Soviet Union in the 1990s helped.

Also they've tried really hard to integrate with Western supply chains. Also a big thing now they do is medical technology. I think there's something about military hardware and medical tech that transfer easily because there's a lot of sensors involved. An engineer who can design a sensor for a helicopter can also make augmented goggles that a surgeon wears.

Also see Cuba pivoting into biotechnology in the 1980s (probably for similar reasons). You don't need a huge, continent-sized industrial base like the U.S., Russia or China to make pharmaceuticals. It's a good niche if you're a small country.

Also IT / software is a thing. Russia also got into that but they got frozen out of Western countries. Kaspersky is highly regarded in the cybersecurity industry. Enterprises in the U.S. and Europe got off Kaspersky after 2014 but China is a huge market. I like the ad where Eugene Kaspersky equips Jackie Chan to enter the CYBERWORLD to fight evil computer viruses with martial arts moves.

>>2900666
goyim control



 

DAILY REMINDER THAT PATRIOT FRONT IDOLIZED AN UNDERCOVER ANTIFASCIST SO MUCH THEY MADE THIS MAD LAD THEIR FIGHT TRAINER.

< And then finally, in 2020, there’d been “Gabriel” in California, the infiltrator who everyone really liked. They had been heartbroken to learn Gabriel, an Iraq War vet built like a brick shithouse, was a secret anti-fascist. Looking back, it made some sense: Gabriel, after all, had always insisted on leading combat trainings, using group sparring sessions as a ruse to beat the shit out of different members, giving some concussions.


This is a guest thread from /farcism/ @ https://nukechan.net/social/thread/611.html



 

Just reminding you that if you don’t want your children killed ask your wife or your girlfriend if she sympathises baby killers like Lindsay Clancy or not, if she sympathises her divorce/break up.


Glad men standing up for themselves current insanity year, because enough is enough!
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The ancients understood that women rule the household and so men are at mercy of the wrath of their wives. It's never up to men.

>>2900988
Who cares about this culture war nonsense? Fuck off back to whatever website you came from.

>>2901019
>watch fiction for facts
Anon…

Who gives a shit about culture war slop?
Sage




 

Is there a communism who puts central importance on the lumpenproletariat, and not the proletariat?
Is there bourgeois socialism?
What are some interesting yet lesser known ideas from communist thinkers?
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>Is there a communism who puts central importance on the lumpenproletariat, and not the proletariat?
There were some New Left currents that did this on the basis of (mostly Black) prisoner's movements in the 60s and 70s. Iirc Huey Newton adopted some elements of this in his writing.

>>2899857
>Iirc Huey Newton adopted some elements of this in his writing.

Quick rundown?

>>2900934
It's essentially just a variation on the labour aristocracy theory, arguing that workers (or at least white ones) were too heavily absorbed into capitalist society and were unlikely to revolt. So they proposed that organized prisoners and lumpenproletariat more generally would take on a vanguard role that would eventually draw in the broader masses of workers.

>>2900936
Id love to hear about such movements because i have a somewhat similar belief, that is, that emphasis should be put on the most avant-garde, radical elements in society, the ones that, due to their conditions, are the most opressed in a first world country and would naturally have the most to gain from bringing about communism. An elite, not in a sense of class or education but in their severe resentment of a system that wronged them. IE ex cons,low class homosexuals, transgender individuals, and generally peolple who the system deems undesirable, mostly people who are extreme in their hatred of the status quo for being wronged by it. They would be naturally receptive to an ideology that promises the restructuring of society that would eliminate their subhuman status and should be pretty loyal due to not having a future under the status quo.
These types, should be chosen for their readiness to act violently if needed. With some education and training, they could prove very valuable and a shared struggle would mend their differences to an acceptable level. This nucleus could then, through a agressive campaign, slowly draw the general proleteriat into a broader movement.
I might be an absolute anarkkkiddie and a theorylet for even thinking this could work, but damn if it wouldn't be cool as hell.

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>>2900936
the problem with that is the prisoners are literally slaves stuck in series of geographically isolated panopticons. no spartacus like uprising is possible when the slaves are in a jail. you would need a bunch of simultaneous successful prison breaks from max security facilities. statistically unlikely. also mixed in with the nonviolent workers who were imprisoned for no good reason are genuine opportunists, class traitors, psychopaths, etc. you are unlikely to develop a healthy and lasting political coalition out of that mixture.



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Previous thread: >>2381106

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.

Previous QTDDTOT Archives
https://archive.is/ga3OG
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How do people here feel about forgiveness?
Is it weak and submissive to turn the other cheek, or is it strong to be able to extinguish the desire for revenge? Jesus says to give a thief your own coat - evil is injustly rewarded by lack of immediate punishment. This is the ethos of slaves and cowards to all sensible persons, no? Forgiveness can come afterwards, but never straight away.

The theological rationale of forgiveness is in the universality of sin, which thus makes no man better than another. Thus, Jesus says to not execute the adulteress so that she may repent. This is expressed today in the methods of rehabilitation; the redemption of souls. In older Catholic executions, the souls of criminals would be forgiven before their mortal bodies were destroyed. The forgiveness of sin was administered spiritually, but not materially. Of course, this conflicts with the Judgement of God - indeed, souls are destroyed in the Lake of Fire by their sin (the idea of a punishing afterlife in Tartarus going back to at least Plato). Here, there is no forgiveness, but a payment of debts. So, even if man forgives, God may not, making man more of a merciful spirit than God. The promise of Hell for the wicked paired with the forgiveness of ignorance (e.g. "forgive them… for they know not what they do") is certainly paradoxical, if not contradictory. So, is forgiveness really true, if sin still remains? As we see with the thief on the cross, forgiveness is granted by permission of God, despite one's sins in life. This is the "death-bed conversion" so notorious of criminal repentance, like Jeffrey Dahmer. In any case, sin is not erased, but passed on down the line - and this is the issue. Where mere man is asked to forgive his rapist and murderer, what sense can be in this? Beyond all passion is still the light of reason. Why is my forgiveness of evil more primary than the evil act itself? I reject this. I need justice.

>you have beaten me, raped me, murdered me - and now I love you
This is the psychological sickness of forgiveness. It is more than simple servility; it is the creed of slavery by an attitude of inferiority.

>>2900895
I think it's desirable to have some kind of avenue to forgiveness. A summary of a book I one read in a Slate Star Codex post (no, really) got to me on this.

From memory the story is basically as follows: There are two twin brothers, an unpopular one and a popular one. The popular one shows up in town and says that he and the unpopular one had a fight, and he killed his brother in self defence. Everyone naturally understands that this is forgivable, except the priest who says it will only be forgiven if he reflects on it, undertakes penance, is truly sorry, and so on. The townspeople think the priest is being old fashioned and too harsh, after all it was a good man engaged in self defence!

Then it turns out that it was actually the unpopular brother who killed the popular brother in self defence and came back to the town, not the popular one. He lied about his identity. Now the population is outraged: this is unforgivable! he killed a good man!
But the priest says: nope, forgivable, provided he reflects on it, undertakes penance, is truly sorry, and so on. Justice isn't a popularity contest and god doesn't discriminate.

Anyway I've probably butchered the story but the point that sticks with me is that there's no similar formal avenue of forgiveness today. You can't go to a priest and go "tell me what to do to show everyone that I'm truly sorry and repentant" and then have the priest stick up for you. All social crimes are either totally forgivable, totally unforgivable, or in an unstable position where they can be ignored most of the time but hauled out to shut you up if need-be. If there was some kind of accepted avenue towards conditional forgiveness, things would probably be a lot better.

>>2900923
Well, we set "penalties" against criminals, which if it they are paid, we say that they are forgiven (e.g. A "purgatory"; of "purging" impurities by a trial). Forgiveness in this case is the paying of debt (hence we call crimes "debts to society"). No one denies that forgiveness is possible - in time, but when Jesus says to offer your thief your coat willingly, he is effectively saying that forgiveness is unconditional, through taking on the debt yourself. Jesus thus takes on everyone's sin, leaving each to be sinless (if they would repent). So, the Christian is supposed to allow evil to overcome them by faith, and this we call "martyrdom". For example, Anabaptists are pacifists, and so you can murder them and they cannot defend themselves. When I see forgiveness of this kind, I see a willingness to be conquered, which I regard as undignified. Even if you will let yourself be victimised, at least defend others. So, I do not think forgiveness is impossible, but all crimes must carry a penalty.



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>>>/siberia/818393
> If you want to be really esoteric, Marxism is advanced feudalism.
No. Marxism is not advanced feudalism. Feudalism is predicated on aristocrat-serf class relations, whereas Marxism is predicated on the elimination of class relations. On what planet could one possibly come to the "esoteric" conclusion that Marxism is "advanced feudalism?" Even assuming this is inspired by that dumb pop-Economics book from Yanis Varoufakis (Technoefeudalism) that is not even his hypothesis. His hypothesis is that the capitalist countries are becoming Technofeudal, not the AES countries. I am honestly baffled by this take and thought it deserved its own thread, because I did not want to derail the thread I found it in. Where are people getting this idea? Is there a common source for this revision or is it arising out of pure vibes?
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>>2900653
maybe it's more like this… hmm..

it literally has nothing to do with feudalism i dont even get the train of thought

>>2900683
"Serfdom was abolished!" I scream as I'm herded into Elon Musk's epic bacon sauce kingdom.

>>2900655
trvth nvke

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>>2900346
Feudalism is the default stage of proprietarian human development (if there is property, there is feudalism (not a bordigafag, but this is the trvth)). When slavery fails (slavery is primitive capitalism), it reverts to feudalism, when capitalism fails it reverts to feudalism, when feudalism fails, it devolves into capitalism, when socialism fails, it devolves into capitalism, which upon failure reverts to feudalism. Feudalism existed even before antiquity. It just had a different name
>feudalism
<subjection
>fiefdom
<satrapy
>fee
<tribute
>Sovereign
<King, Despot, Satrap etc.
and so on.
Communism is esoteric feudalism because it concentrates everything into the hands of the sovereign (the politburo), it creates a relationship of loyalty between the citizens and the church (the party), you could not freely move in-out or inside AES countries permanently (tied to one's land), there was excessive social surplus generated for the use by the sovereign, there was heightened sense of community (ideological) and so on. Even the collective farm system was similar to feudalism where above the fee quota, you traded on actual free markets. Lastly socialism was brought down by the soviet merchant guild in exactly the same way that the medieval merchant guild brought down feudalism because they wanted unrestricted property claims. It did not fail organically like is said in the westoid academic media (bla bla people got tired and overthrew bla bla), the merchants corrupted the sovereign into destroying the order of things so they could become the new aristocracy (the oligarchy).

>>2900350
>former q-tard
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