/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2866244
>>2866241
Okay fascist

>>2865428
the most racist guy you know and his asian wife

>>2866271
If your pot isn’t boiling after 15 minutes either you didn’t turn it on or the stove doesn’t work

If Palestinians aren’t getting killed that means you’re next, you can’t turn off the machine, you just have to point it away from you and yours

>>2866230
Didn't say that but if it got to that point violence will occur anyway. You even said to avoid joining DSA of all things because of fear of violence. You are the type to tell MLK he is an uppity negro for daring to protest

>>2862772
There are two moronic extremes, the "we're all headed toward death/a Mad Max world" and the "nothing's going to happen" camp.

I have some sympathy for the former because I'm from a region that's been hit hard by climate change. I understand where that feeling comes from. but I do agree with you that so much pointless death and suffering could be avoided if we adapted to the changing conditions.

The problem is that with the exception of China, very few governments have the political will to make those changes. They're content with maintaining the current system, at least until some major disaster comes along and ends up killing a lot of people.

>>2862772
>artifical meat
that…that industry is currently failing…

>>2863173
The problem is that it's currently not hype enough for venture capital and getting road blocks from governments getting lobbied by the cattle industry. It needs a lot of investment and research particularly to produce big steel tanks and make it economical even though the technology has already been worked out which is why it's still at least a decade away. So for now it's a rich consumer fad and niche product that's only allowed in a handful of country which means the market won't grow just yet.

>>2863179
which is a problematic issue because Idk if we do have a decade. Also even if we do, it might take longer than a decade. And it would also take time to maximize production in a way that replaces meat.
Theres also the other issue where the cattle industry pressure politicians to fund different alt solutions. Not exactly a great time we live in

>Lake Powell reaching critically low elevation levels, nearing 'dead power pool,' experts say
give me alfalfa or give me death

Darline Graham Nordone, sister of Lindsey Graham, chosen to fulfill remainder of his US Senate term
South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster announced at a news conference at the Statehouse on Monday that Nordone would serve the remaining months on Graham’s current term, which expires in January. Senate Majority Leader John Thune said afterward that she will be sworn in Tuesday afternoon.
https://apnews.com/article/lindsey-graham-dies-south-carolina-whats-next-5ba55574ce6f087d56999abe3a7f9fdc

US justice department investigating UAW president over corruption allegations
Last month, the union’s court-appointed monitor released a report alleging that Fain improperly used his authority to push for a financial bonus for his fiancee and get worker’s compensation for his sister, Bloomberg reported. When Rich Boyer, UAW’s vice-president, refused to approve the benefits, Fain removed him as chief negotiator with carmaker Stellantis NV. The report ultimately deferred a decision on disciplinary action, and a federal grand jury subpoenaed the monitor over its report.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/13/justice-department-uaw-president-investigation

Guggenheim museum workers, public defenders in New York City vote to authorize strike action
Staff at the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum in Manhattan, members of United Auto Workers Local 2110, have voted overwhelmingly to authorize a strike as contract negotiations drag into their seventh month. The vote, which passed by a 93 percent margin, marks a serious escalation in a struggle that has drawn in workers across New York City's major cultural institutions and coincides with parallel strike preparations by public defenders and legal aid attorneys in the city, also members of the UAW.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/07/13/kffh-j13.html

Trump Admin Finally Hands Over Evidence on Good and Pretti Killings to Minnesota Prosecutors After Withholding It For 6 Months Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>South Africa’s anti-immigrant groups move from ultimatums to door-to-door threats. The objective seems to have changed: it’s no longer simply about demonstrating, but rather about undertaking what have come to be known as “door-to-door” campaigns. That is, going house to house to find foreign citizens and urge them — sometimes politely, sometimes forcefully — to leave the country. And, unlike other episodes of racial tension in the country’s history, the protagonists of these protests are, for the most part, Black South African citizens who are targeting Black immigrants.

Nationalism is such a fucking insidious disease.

Who Is in Charge in Venezuela?
On June 24, the collision of the South American tectonic plate with the Caribbean one caused a major release of energy from the depths of the Earth, leaving a trail of destruction in Venezuela. The 7.2- and 7.5-magnitude earthquakes that rocked the country caused thousands of deaths and the collapse of hundreds of structures. While we try to process the trauma and return to something that resembles “normalcy,” Venezuela, already battered by years of sanctions and the recent US military attack, now faces the challenge of rebuilding itself in the broadest sense of the word and in an ever more complicated context. With that in mind, we have to start by asking: who is in charge of the country and its future?
https://venezuelanalysis.com/columns/who-is-in-charge-in-venezuela/

Britain’s Year of Arresting Pensioners As Terrorists Has Taken a Hatchet to Our Civil Liberties
A year and a day ago, octogenarian priest Sue Parfitt told Novara Media, “we cannot be bystanders”. Moments later, she became one of the first people in the country to be arrested under a draconian new law that many didn’t believe could be enforced. Parfitt had, of course, defied the proscription of direct action group Palestine Action as a terrorist organisation, after a ban came into effect at 00.01 the night before. Onlookers, who surrounded the group and chanted “free, free Palestine”, said they were shocked to see her and 28 other mostly elderly protesters bundled into police vans simply for holding up paper signs. Parfitt said she hoped “common sense would prevail” and that the new law would be immediately overturned. We expected that might happen, too. In the first few weeks, the UN, Amnesty International, many other NGOs and dozens of public figures condemned the ban as a “disturbing legal overreach” with chilling repercussions for freedom of speech and assembly. As more and more people vowed to break the law, things looked pretty bad for the British government and its loyal, miserable police force.
https://novaramedia.com/2026/07/06/britains-year-of-arresting-pensioners-as-terrorists-has-tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

larp

>>2865685
At least it's not RP. Critsup for OP

>robbery and grand theft auto
How about the stock market? That's what the visible half of porky does, isn't it? The other half does do violent heists and such, the cartels and mafias and the big bourg are one and the same in the big 2020s after all.

As a barely literate thirdoid who makes around 1800 USD a month I don't know a thing 'bout moni all I know is that on my job I get paid in the last week of the month if I work for jobsman and then I'm happy

I tried looking at the stock market a few times but there are way too many big boy words going on in there and my mind just keeps concluding it's a retarded and debauched casino to save myself some energy then I walk away everytime

>>2865965
Stock market is the best solution right now, banks don't store that much money on premises anymore. Remember that US Megachurches/Televangelists encourage all their listeners to donate 10% of their salaries to them, no matter how poor they are. Imagine if every socialist in the world saved 5% of their salary, invested it in the stock market, and let it grow so they can donate it to their party.

>>2865685
You can't larp on the internet by definition.

>>2864668
>one language, one cultural
????
Who said you must have one culture and language under communism? How would a social ownership of the means of production erase cultural differences between regions, Which arises due to different living conditions and vast distance between living spaces??
And the balkanization of imperialist countries into smaller ones doesn't mean attaining communism is impossible anymore than attaining communism is in this exact global state. elaborate on this point.
Your vision of communism of one united world government isn't incompatible with smaller scale local governorship I completely fail to see your point and honestly I think there is none you're just confused.
That's like saying governments on a provincial and state level are incompatible with the central government

>>2864674
Differences in language make economic participation harder

https://www.marxist.ca/article/emergency-resolution-in-solidarity-with-the-struggle-of-the-people-of-azad-kashmir

Kashmir should be free

>>2864631
The PKK and that whole side of Kurdish politics very famously renounced separatism, anon.

All CIA plants to hamper the development of the productive forces.

>>2865739
But Zeus raped shit loads of women and wasn't punished though, it's suitors that get sent to hell or whatever, not the actual powerful rapists - same as it always was with feminism, it's just a cartel to keep 'low value males' down.

>>2864963
I guess its an effective marketing strategy to have culture warriors talking about your movie.

>>2865263
Also casting a guy who was tall, skinny and older then Napoleon

>>2865923
And also retarded

>>2865739
>>2865835
Because the Greece of the Iliad and Classical Greece were separated by about 500 years, they were radically different civilizations. Just as England in the 1200s and England in the 1700s were both England in the past.
One example is the status of women. By the Classical period, especially, Greek society had become more strongly patriarchal and male authority was formalized through legal and social institutions. Respectable women were expected to remain largely within the household and when they appeared in public, they were to be veiled.

This thread is yet more perfect proof of why it’s pointless to talk to human morons on the internet. No one seems to grasp what OP is actually trying to say, and everyone is just talking past him. It’s no wonder you can have much more profound conversations with AI, it understood the OP immediately. You guys are obsolete.

>>2865711
braindead leftypolers.

>suddenly 95%+ of the population are misusing the word 'algorithm'
Even this site has a bump order algorithm. That's how user-content sites work.
I'm tired…

>Do you use algorithmic platforms like YouTube, X, Instagram, Xiaohongshu, etc.?
No. I use a alternate frontend for YouTube and RSS to subscribe to people I want to be alerted to.
And you're a fucking retard if you aren't doing something similar. Imagine considering yourself a socialist and then voluntarily begging porkbot for their tailored propaganda. In this day and age where there are more alternatives than ever.

* good to see some self-liberating comr8s in these replies.

>>2865718
>I'm tired…
preach sister, preach.
its the same people that convinced themselves/were convinced in school that mathematics is useless for life anyway and thus a waste of time.
now the same people talk about 'algorithms', 'AI' etc. and deem information technology some kind of mystical idol that makes things happen via magic.

i am a bit of a workaholic classcuck myself, but now I have to work with a mega, turbo, omega classuck who actually works 8+ hours a day and hides behind management, + his pace of work not only accelerates ours, but also produces side-effects that end up on our laps, so the blame is always on us when something goes wrong

such people should be sent down to the countryside to observe the workers and peasants

I work to get away from my family tbh, they’re exhausting to be around, sometimes even more so than work

>>2864730
Then it's easy, just get him really high so he works less hard.

>>2865047

being an entitled grifter who gets money for doing nothing is the new normal in western society, it's what our modern hustle culture is all about. of course the problem nobody wants to talk about is what happens when everyone in the world finally figures out that the hustler is a hustler.

>>2863658
you and your coworkers should bully him until he quits

>>2864696
> The best realistic scenario I can see is the decentralisation of power to a more local level so that (a) it's easier for leftists to obtain it and (b) each area can experiment and see what works in their specific circumstances or make the trade-offs they desire, and other areas can learn from their experiences.
socialism in one municipal district

>>2864742
You remain wrong. Puppet agents of finance capital exist in all countries on the periphery of capitalism. For there to be socialization of the economy and solidarity with the workers of the world, it is necessary not to depend on imports; therefore, there must be economic sovereignty. However, for this to be done, there is no agreement to be made with the bourgeoisie; therefore, state-owned enterprises must be used so that technology is democratized in a country that is under the control of capitalists who use blackmail against countries that do not have technological sovereignty. The solution is the use of state capitalism with state-owned enterprises competing against capitalists; this will facilitate democratization to prepare for the socialist revolution in a revolutionary situation.

This follows what Engels and Marx wrote:

<(ii) Gradual expropriation of landowners, industrialists, railroad magnates and shipowners, partly through competition by state industry, partly directly through compensation in the form of bonds.

<Frederick Engels, 1847, The Principles of Communism

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

As for what to do if the petty bourgeoisie wishes to nationalize something or propose taxes, the Marxist position is not to be a lackey to deliver property into the hands of capitalists nor to defend them:

<2. They must drive the proposals of the democrats to their logical extreme (the democrats will in any case act in a reformist and not a revolutionary manner) and transform these proposals into direct attacks on private property. If, for instance, the petty bourgeoisie propose the purchase of the railways and factories, the workers must demand that these railways and factories simply be confiscated by the state without compensation as the property of reactionaries. If the democrats propose a proportional tax, then the workers must demand a progressive tax; if the democrats themselves propose a moderate progressive tax, then the workers must insist on a tax whose rates rise so steeply that big capital is ruined by it; if the democrats demand the regulPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2865156
>For there to be socialization of the economy and solidarity with the workers of the world, it is necessary not to depend on imports
If the workers have the world have united, where the fuck are imports coming from? Mars?!
The rest is just wishcasting. If you think that Air New Zealand has the bourgeoisie seething because it's an SOE (which incidentally furnished the country's current leader) you're delusional. If you think state ownership leads to the "democratisation of technology" just like that, you're delusional. (Quite famously one of the few good things to come out of privatisation is that waiting times for landline installation fell from 6 months to about 1 week max.) There is no inherent reason to assume state employees are benevolent. In practice public services are just as prone to empire building and cover-ups as private sector ones.
(This, incidentally, is why I am a fan of decentralisation. I am not some market dogmatist who thinks that the private sector should run all bus services, but I do think that each local area should commission the services it needs via a local council sufficiently close to the public that you can personally know someone with some decision making power. It is pointless having a national bus company subject to "democratic oversight" by an MP who also represents 80,000 other people, or to have a russian-doll system where you have to complain to your block leader, who reports to a councillor, who reports to a regional leader, who reports to a national MP, who maybe reports to the bus committee…)

Governments choose to issue public debt and do not, as a general rule have austerity enforced upon them when they are spending within their actual capacities. The last time the UK ran a surplus was in 2001, France hasn't run one since 1974, USA 2001, Germany 2019, Portugal 2025, China 2007, Indonesia 2000, Brazil 2013, Chile 2022. Greece is an unusual exception, but behaved profligately by any standard and found itself bullied by other Euro member states rather than international markets. There are only a handful of countries in the world worse off today than they were in 1980. Your just-so story about "becom[ing] a deindustrialized colony without control of any technology for the export of raw materials" is just total nonsense - most of the gPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2865023
>Plants require humans, but the global share of industrial workers has stayed consistent […]
That's true to an extent but this is also because of the poor state that industries are in. Compare to China's manufacturing sector and you see that, although automation has replaced many workers, it has also created new fields for engineers alongside new jobs in more technical plants for workers.

>you cannot say the sector as a whole has declined just because you don't like its compositional changes
The composition does matter because when people complain about deindustrialization, they're complaining about losing sovereignty, losing regional jobs, losing low-skill high-value gigs and lastly losing technological savoir-faire (and the jobs that go alongside it)
More over, the general claim on deindustrialization is that it made the nation loose its economic sovereignty. It made unions powerless and stripped the state out of an effective investment potential.

>Most European countries are better off today than they were before "Deindustrialisation
You need to compare to the potential we lost rather than the state we had

> I do not consider healthcare to be welfare spending for these purposes and "Actual quality" is basically a wash
You're making a category error here

>The idea postwar keynesianism was driven because of the USSR is another just-so story
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