/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>the EU is not a communism
Explain this then.

how many times are you gonna make this thread

>>2902765
I only ever made another one once back in spring (I think?).

icelanders said fuck the eu, based tbh. libs seething.

>>2903091
It is what it is.

>>2860957
Damn the DSA seems even more useless than I thought

>>2858790
>What does leftypol think of the worker's party of belgium?
how do they feel about the congo

This explains them quite well: https://tribunemag.co.uk/2024/12/going-back-to-class

>>2860957
Rosa Luxemburg Stifling also produced a comparison between the PTB-PVDA and the DSA.

>>2903661
I haven’t kept up with trends in vanguard anarchism, maybe that’s the general direction , I don’t know though, that’s wishful projection

>>2903662
it's not the vanguard that you need to worry about: decentralised systems of labor vouchers are inherently less efficient than currency so the trade union ends up needing a central bank, and capitalism only develops extractive industry so you end up needing taxes and cadres to administer social services in underdeveloped regions.

>>2903698
Especially in Indonesia, even with West Papua and East Timor independent you’d have to deal with as much if not more neglected countryside than Mao in 1949

>>2902605
malaysia has made no claim to the region and has offered both assistance in economically developing southern thailand and to act as a mediator in the conflict.

thailand's counter insurgency has been a spectacular failure with shocking missteps like the army killing 80 people in backs of military trucks during a crackdown in 2004.

there's no proof of malaysian interference: this conspiracy theory is directly attributable to the thai military, who's increasingly reactionary juntas have not addressed the material causes of the conflict and have only exacerbated it.

>>2903035
Honestly subianto is basically trying to copy modi. He hung out with china just recently. He basically wanted to receive support from both, but is so stupid he fumbled both.

>>2857363
>All you need is to learn to count money, and you'll never have more than thirty rubles anyway.
retard didn't know about inflation smdh

>>2857363
>A peasant
trotsky was too soft on them

>>2903611
Divided by not much in particular, united in gun running for petty nationalist movements. So romantic…

>>2903556
anyone can feel smug about knowing things that come with experience that others don't. watch this:
<you would be very surprised how stupid and useless the so-called "blue collar professionals" can be in the rare situation where they have to do so-called "white collar work", not knowing how to type, right clicking and copying every time instead of using keyboard shortcuts, clicking on obvious phishing emails, taking all of microsoft's horrible suggestions like turning on OneDrive, manually minimizing and maximizing windows one by one instead of alt-tabbing between them, relying on the mouse for everything, treating user interfaces like they're written in a foreign language. one time i worked at an small office and this guy who came out of the car garage from a long line of mechanics was doing an internship and he fell for the old "replace the desktop with a screenshot of the desktop so that none of the icons are clickable" trick.

>>2903556
you would fuck up at having to do single mom stuff like change diapers or sign kids up for school btw

>>2903708
(and btw I don't mean to imply that a brain surgeon is more useful to society than a janitor, there is way higher demand for basic cleanup than there is for brain surgery. toilets need cleaning every day, while brain surgery is rare). Just pointing out that thousands of uncompensated labor hours and thousands of dollars of tuition go into training a brain surgeon while anyone can learn to do janitorial stuff while they're still a kid. Under real socialism education and training will be compensated so that the brain surgeon will be compensated the same as a janitor after getting paid during the years of education and training instead of doing a huge upfront risk of going into debt, taking student loans, and then later on making way more than the average person to "make up" for it.

>>2903628
he already got arrested and his mugshot is on the internet. his "infosec" is permafucked.

Moved to >>>/labor/2120.

>>2903613
i didn't mean to imply any of that I just typed too quickly frivolously because it would have taken more words and nuance to say the thing you're saying.

>>2903622
not a gun nerd, sorry, will try harder.

>>2902980
Honked

New bread:

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>>2903500
Burgerpunk

Shining path = iran

>>2903600
This is a leftist discussion forum.

Moved to >>>/siberia/819782.

the americas didn't have wheat before european colonization and the corn-growing aztecs and incas were big imperialist hierarchical civilizations. also there was the comanche empire, they didn't have crops at all they just had horses from the europeans and used them to conquer and enslave and terrorize people all over the great plains. oh and then there's ghengis khan and the mongols, they didn't grow crops they just used horses to conquer people and they forged the largest continuous empire in history and killed like 10% of the world population.

>>2903592
Based. My 37-year old self used to listen to this album all the time when I was a teenager in the mid 2000s.

Hot take, but OP is actually doing real historical materialism.

>>2903540
I swear I remember a zine from that time arguing this exact thing.

>>2903520
Cereals generally. However, your simple egalitarian model isn't favored nowadays, I think. See the paper:
"Human social organization during the Late Pleistocene: Beyond the nomadic-egalitarian model."

It argues we have a mixed ancestral strategy of egalitarian bands living in resource scarce areas between so-called complex hunter-gatherers which sit on resource rich areas and exhibit many traits usually associated with early states (high population, hierarchy, slavery) and that we were managing and cultivating plants and animals way before 10k years ago.

<The nomadic-egalitarian model confronts puzzling inconsistencies. On the one hand, our ancestors are said to have spent an appreciable duration of prehistory—anywhere from the last 40,000 to several million years—living in small, egalitarian, mobile bands. Status competition was stifled, and domineering behavior invited censure, ostracism, or execution. This social environment was purportedly critical in shaping the biological foundations of our psychology: Many scholars argue that understanding the evolution of the human mind requires considering the egalitarian origins of our species, while others, especially evolutionary psychologists, posit that the cooperation humans exhibit in contemporary large-scale societies reflects adaptations for interacting in small groups of non- strangers.

<Yet, as we will show, many reliably developing human behaviors are difficult to explain if the primary or exclusive social environment shaping human psychology was the small-scale, mobile, egalitarian band. Rather, such behaviors become much easier to understand when considered as the products of an evolutionary history involving diverse social environments.

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<Recent examples of sedentary foragers include the Chumash, New Guinean fisher-foragers, and the peoples of the Pacific Northwest. Such peoples tended to exhibit several common features: They tended to exploit coastal resources. They sustained very high population densities. Although not necessarily completely sedentary, they exhibited less mobility than classically “nomadic” foragers. They had much larger group sizes, with some villages exceeding 1,000 individuals. They permitted and often institutionalizPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2903114
Not your blog. Fuck off back wherever you came from and stay there.

Is that a new Iron Felix picture?

>ideology
Sorry I don't believe in metaphysics

>>2903114
don't include dem SOCs. there is no "left unity with someone inherently NOT anti-capitalistic enough to even be considered left

>>2903232
We need to ban people under 21 from learning about materialism because no, the existence of belief systems is not “idealism” and materialism does not mean people don’t have ideas in their head. Jesus Christ learn what words mean

>>2903243
There was economic bubbles when railways and the internet were first introduced but it didnt stop these technologies from being implemented.

"AI will save us" is the same religious impulse that gave you the rapture of the nerds, singularity posting, and every other technofix that lets you avoid the actual problem: who owns the thing. A language model trained by a company answerable to venture capital and running on GPUs owned by Amazon and Microsoft is not a neutral force floating above class society. It's a productive force, and like every productive force under capitalism, the question isn't "is it powerful," it's "who controls the surplus it generates and who gets thrown out of work by it." Marx wrote about this with the steam engine and the power loom in the 1860s and none of the logic has changed just because the machine is quieter now.

>words words words Yeah, that's the job. You don't build class consciousness or a cadre or a program by vibing. Every successful revolutionary movement in history (the Bolsheviks, the Chinese CP, the Vietnamese) did enormous amounts of unglamorous political education and organizational work before anything looked like a insurrection. If "they're trolling you and all you do is type" bothers you, the fix isn't to stop explaining things, it's to actually organize something in physical space so the theory has somewhere to land.

>Will the AI save us all?
it wont even save the VCs that have deposited trillions of dollars into it, but it's also forcing silicon valley into baring material relationships between workers and bougies in order to sell a compelling product to each other, to the point where people associate AI with class warfare in an instinctual level, so who knows.

>>2903242
rare good post

>>2903253
>Every successful revolutionary movement in history (the Bolsheviks, the Chinese CP, the Vietnamese) did enormous amounts of unglamorous political education and organizational work before anything looked like a insurrection.

i agree with your main point but none of those were particularly effective revolutionary movements when the full historical record is taken into account and i would argue that political education and organizational work are not the primary driving force of revolutionary action, the real secret sauce is something even more unglamorous than that, which simply solitude and quiet contemplation. reading books is helpful for learning things that people already know and have already done before, but a truly effective revolutionary movement requires revolutionary ideas, ideas that no one has ever thought or said out loud or written in any book before, and the only way to achieve that is to do what all the most revolutionary thinkers in the world have done since ancient times which is to isolate yourself from society and all of its noise and distractions and be completely alone with nothing but your own thoughts for an extended period of time. long enough to where you get so fucking bored that something finally snaps in your brain and you become deeply attuned to everything as your brain responds to the starvation of stimuli by becoming more sensitive and noticing and thinking about things that it would normally take for granted and not being constantly cajoled by outside influence, and in that state of mind you can come up with some truly unique and novel ideas. of course, if you're a working class adult it's a lot harder to do this in the modern era than it was in the past with so many distractions and obligations in our high-tech industrial society that is designed in just such a way that dropping out of society has disastrous consequences and often results in permanent exile, so there's not a whole lot of genuine revolutionaries in the world these days.