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The Soviet Union opened its very first large toilet paper factory in… 1969
And toilet paper remained in deficit for the whole Soviet period, right until the end.
People would buy Pravda and Komsomol newspapers exclusively to use as toilet paper.
In 1981, a Soviet plane crashed and killed 16 Admirals and Generals because it was overloaded with hoarded toilet paper lol.
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>>2683405
>The Bolsheviks just stole an election and said "Yep all those institutions are now ours", it wasn't really a grassroots uprising of dual power institutions like the Chinese revolution was. Mass Line is still a massive part of Chinese policy, meanwhile the Soviets were dismantled in the USSR in the early 1920s and were formally abolished in 1936
<Le bolshies were mean and stole muh elections
Are you trying to cosplay as a butthurt lib that lives in the baltics?

The thread is basically ogre, but all of these claims about the Soviet Union supposedly making basic items unobtainable depends on the false comparison against what is easily found and bought in Western shops today and not those of the 20th Century.

Consumer electronics probably involves the biggest misconception in this regard, they’re essentially all disposable items these days and you’re encouraged to treat them as such with planned obsolescence, but it seems that gets projected on to fancy 80s Japanese hi-fis when trying to critique le consoomerism in the Soviet Union. By which it’s imagined everyone in the West had those now-quaint Laserdisc players in the 1980s because capitalism is just so heckin dedicated to facilitating consumerism, while only those with the money in the USSR could get one from the black market and with waiting lists unless you had connections, aka you “knew a guy” in contemporary western parlance.

In reality, even TVs were expensive enough, unreliable enough and hard enough to replace in the West that it was common to lease them in the 20th Century. Being able to go to your nearest shopping centre on any day and finding a new TV, in-stock, for the cost of a day or two’s salary is a pretty recent development.

>>2684411
they literally didn't win a majority in one of the elections, declared it null and void and just seized power anyway

>>2684469
Yep, a home computer ran you over a month's wage in the 1980s, with Apples or IBMs costing as much as a car.

>>2684411
The difference is that the Bolsheviks were handed over completely set up institutions, they slapped a red coat of paint on them and kept them largely the same.
The CPC built new institutions from the ground up and the party always functioned more through localism anyway, the heart of the CPC is really village councils.



 

>Nick Fuentes
Gay Mexican
>Sneako
Filipino and Haitian
>Candace Owens
Black Women
>Fresh and Fit
Sudanese and Barbadian duo
>Stonetoss
Puerto Rican
>Every greek statue profile picture cyrtpto-Nazi account on Twitter
Indian
You can debate whether or not these guys are all Nazis but they all have defended Hitler at some point and either denied, revised, or downplayed the Holocaust. And they are also all at least White-Nationalits.
I myself am a white man and also Heterosexual and Cisgender and I understand why another white man with no class consciousness would be a white supremacist BUT WHY WOULD A BLACK OR BROWN PERSON BE A WHITE SUPREMACIST?!?!?! Why are these Cucks trying to suck my dick?!?!?!
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>At the scene of a November 2025 bomb attack on a school in Jakarta, the capital of Indonesia, security forces found a toy gun owned by the 17-year-old suspected attacker. Written on the gun were the names of Western far-right extremists, such as Brenton Tarrant and Alexandre Bissonnette.

>Nearly 100 people were injured in the Jakarta attack, including the suspect. Police say he acted alone but was inspired by online extremist content.


>Indonesia's counterterrorism agency has warned that more teens are being exposed to far‑right ideology through gaming communities. Authorities report rising online radicalization and plan new measures, including tighter social media rules for minors.


https://www.dw.com/en/how-white-supremacy-is-spreading-among-indonesias-youth/video-75813889

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>>2656484 Model minority racial anxieties, basically. Similar trends happened with Irish and Italian immigrants when they first came here. It's why Tony Soprano has a panic attack at the thought of his daughter taking BBC in that one Sopranos episode

>>2656557
A lot of the Indians larping as white trad accounts on twitter also do it for clicks so they can get money from it

anyone remember that black nigcel groyper who shot up a school?

>>2656649
>>2656557
I don’t buy the grifter excuse. Candace Owens could have made a lot more money if she had stayed at The Daily Wire and remained a neocon. ST and Nick's growth were also built from the ground up.

>>2684812
>The Daily Wire
bruh Ben Shabibo is literally bleeding mondy and losing his audience and only continues to exist because of Israeli money.
even Tucker 10 years ago before he started taking Russian money was mocking Ben's stupid libertarianism. everyone in the west is starting to hate "muh free markets" hence why even conservatards have to pretend to be anti corporation these days.



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https://www.ynetnews.com/business/article/skeqnl08wg

Members of Kibbutz Hanita are suing the Chinese-controlled Ballet Vision fund for refusing to buy their remaining stake in an intraocular lens plant, citing losses and what it says is a Chinese government ban on new investments in Israel since the war

Members of Kibbutz Hanita near Israel’s northern border are demanding $11 million from Ballet Vision, the Chinese fund that controls 80% of the Hanita Lenses plant, accusing it of refusing to exercise an option to purchase the kibbutz’s remaining shares, according to a lawsuit filed in Tel Aviv District Court.

In a response letter attached to the lawsuit, the Chinese fund said that since the outbreak of the war in Israel, Beijing has classified Israel as a “high-risk area” and imposed a ban on any new Chinese investments in the country, making it impossible to carry out the option.

“Since the outbreak of the fighting in Israel, the Chinese government has classified Israel as a high-risk zone (red category) and prohibited any new Chinese investment in the country,” the fund wrote. “As long as this restriction remains in place, there is no practical operational ability to exercise the option.”

According to the lawsuit, in 2021 the kibbutz sold 74% of Hanita Lenses, which manufactures intraocular lenses for medical use, to Ballet Vision for $35 million. Of that sum, $25 million was paid to kibbutz members, with an additional $10 million injected into the company.
As part of the agreements, the Chinese fund granted the remaining minority shareholders an option to require it to purchase their remaining shares for about $9.5 million, now valued at roughly $11 million, by early December 2025.

The kibbutz claims that its stake was further diluted in two subsequent agreements in 2022, leaving the Chinese fund with about 80% ownership. One dilution followed a $7 million additional investment, while another was tied to a future $8 million investment that has not yet been carried out.
In December, the kibbutz notified the fund of its intention to exercise the option. The lawsuit says the funds are urgently needed due to the war. Hanita, located close to the border, has endured two extremely difficult years, and the money is required for rehabilitation, particularly for older members.
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>I'm literally Arab!!!
Anti china anon is always going on about this. Why are ultras such NPCs? Materialist explanation?

>>2684794
Chyna wouldn't be there without the IMF

>>2684749
>USA gives israel weapons, intelligence, logistical support, defense from iranian strikes, billions of dollars every year, in addition to trading with them, including selling them weapons
<i sleep
>china sells israel non-military commodities
<WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF

btw what arab country do you live in… or are you an arab in the USA?

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>>2684798
china bails african countries out of their IMF loans regularly by giving them 0% interest loans and then forgiving those loans later on. the west calls this "debt trap diplomacy" because it traps the USA by bailing africa out of debt. cheers.

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Man come on
Seething about Israel and glazing the PRC are like THE two biggest topics on /leftypol/
But pointing out the very obvious China-Israel trade relationship doesn't even get a HINT of a reaction?
So fucking stupid, it's impossible to troll people with brains as smooth as this, fucking dumbass website



 

There is an unspoken agreement between US and Iran to maintain the delicate balance of power in the region.

Losing Islamist Iran period means losing Iraq to a power vacuum.

Losing Islamist Iran to communists is doomsday scenario for capitalists, the resource rich region is filled with unpopular regimes and immiserated workers. Iran and Iraq (the most susceptible for revolution) alone make up a quarter of the world oil supply. The stakes are too high to allow an unpredictable mass movement (that cannot be entirely controlled) to overthrow the regime.

Iran poses zero threat to western imperialism, in fact in places like Iraq and Lebanon it is the lever that is maintaining it. Decades of wheeling and dealing through backchannels have exposed this myth for what it is - a false dichotomy that sets the ideological framework for US and Iranian imperialism in the region, so-called "Axis of Resistance" and "Forces of Order"

Does this mean they're in agreement on everything and Iran is secretly run by da juice? Of course not, that's conspiratorial and Kautskyist nonsense. They're united in so far as their class interests meet, mostly in suppressing workers and maintaining the status quo.

Will this last forever? No, eventually a war will break out due to capital's growing contradictions and the need to counter overproduction through destruction. The region and the world broadly have yet to fall into designated camps for such event to happen, that will spark the a third global imperialist war.

Don't fall into this false dichotomy, or prepare to be disappointed. Learn from the communist parties in the region who have reached this conclusion.

No war but class war
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>>2684459
>One of the topics which needs be recalled here is that Islam does not approve of tyrannical capitalism, which tends to deprive the oppressed and downtrodden masses. On the contrary, it sharply condemns it in the Book and so do the traditions. They consider ii counter to social justice, although certain half-witted people who are uninformed about the Islamic government and political issues in an Islamic state have somehow pretended and still persist in their writings and in their lectures that Islam advocates uncontrolled capitalism and private ownership, and with such interpretations of the Islamic dictates they have marred the brilliant visage of Islam, thereby paving the way for the invasion against Islam by malevolent people and for intimating that an Islamic government is a government like capitalist governments of the West, such as the United States, England and other plunderers of the West, and there are others who, relying on the judgment of such silly people, or perhaps maliciously and without bothering to check with true Islamicists, they are fighting Islam. Islam is rather a moderate system of government which recognizes private ownership only to a level and allowing it only within bounds, the implementation of which system in its true form will ensure the turning of the wheels of a healthy economy which is required for a healthy political system.

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tfw real socialism is when you don't like "crony capitalism"

>>2684610
This meme was approved by Allah (the OG libertarian)

>>2684571
I'm a Muslim and I never read any mention of capitalism in the Quran. However, Islamists mostly backed by gulf money, invented le Islamic economics less than a century ago and it is condemned as liberalism by every non-state sponsored Muslim economist and Imam.

You seem to be confused

>>2684618
Wrong. Islam forbids exploitation. Iran is a revolutionary Islamic People's Democratic Dictatorship. That is why working peoples support Iran Revolution and imperialist speak ill of it



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Any serious conversation about socialism has to start with something very basic systems that replace an old order cannot survive by copying it. Feudal rulers could not just rebrand themselves and hope to compete in a world shaped by industry and markets. The productive forces had already moved on. In the same way it makes little sense to claim we are building something beyond capitalism while keeping markets competition profit logic and wage dependence at the center of everything. Calling it market socialism or state capitalism does not magically turn it into a new mode of production. If the underlying structure of accumulation and market compulsion stays intact then what you have is capitalism with new management. Socialism has to mean a real transformation in how production is organized and how surplus is distributed otherwise it is just nostalgia dressed up as innovation and history is not kind to systems that refuse to evolve beyond their time.

Understanding the transition from feudalism to capitalism requires examining how each system organizes production, class relations, and the extraction of surplus. The feudal mode of production was structured around landownership, hereditary hierarchy, and obligations enforced through direct social and political coercion. In contrast, the capitalist mode of production is based on private ownership of capital, wage labor, and market exchange as the central mechanism of economic coordination. By comparing these two systems, we can see not only how economic structures changed, but also how power, freedom, and class relations were fundamentally reorganized in the shift from medieval to modern society.

Here are the core characteristics of the feudal mode of production:

>1. Land is the central means of production

Wealth doesn’t primarily come from trade or industry, it comes from land. Whoever controls land controls power.

>2. Lords own the land, peasants work it

The ruling class (lords, nobles) legally controls the land. Peasants (often serfs) work that land to survive.

>3. Surplus is extracted through extra-economic coercion

This is key. The lord doesn’t pay wages. Instead, peasants are obligated to give part of their harvest, labor time, or services. This obligation is enforced by tradition, law, and force, not by a labor contract like in capitalism.
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It’s not even relevant because the ecological destruction capitalism is causing will make both itself and a transition to socialism (whatever that means) impossible anyway, the only way forward is a return to feudalism or primitive communism

>>2683687
>Feudal rulers could not just rebrand themselves and hope to compete in a world shaped by industry and markets.

They did though. That's how there were European aristos with real power well into the 20th century. Capitalists were acquiring titles for a long time to legitimize themselves (marrying into a family or buying it).

>capitalism develops centralized nation-states


Feudalism was already doing this although I guess you could call the transition proto-capitalism depends on what time period you're talking about.

You are correct. But industrial communism just seems so unimaginable and far away. How could it develop from within capitalism? What does the transitional period looks like? Is it even comparable to feudalism transitioning into capitalism? Cause they are both class systems.

>>2683687
>Feudal rulers could not just rebrand themselves and hope to compete in a world shaped by industry and markets.

Except that's what happened in Japan. Instead of having a bourgeois revolution they had a managed transition out of feudalism by the portion of the feudal ruling class who were modernizers.

< The Japanese elite knew their country to be one among many confronted by the dangers of conquest or subjection which they had faced in the course of a long history […] what is perhaps more important, the Japanese elite possessed a state apparatus and a social structure capable of controlling the movement of an entire society. To transform a country from above without risking either passive resistance, disintegration, or revolution is extremely difficult. The Japanese rulers were in the historically exceptional position of being able to mobilise a traditional mechanism of social obedience for the purposes of a sudden, radical, but controlled 'westernisation' […] the 'Meiji Restoration' […] a drastic 'revolution from above' […] The parallelism between Japan and Prussia has often been made. In both countries capitalism was formally installed not by bourgeois revolution [against feudal lords] but from above, by an old [feudal] bureaucratic-aristocratic order which recognised that its survival could not otherwise be assured.

Eric Hobsbawm, Age of Capital (1848-1875), Chapter 8

Now consider: the transition from primitive communism to slavery, and from slavery to serfdom was neither brought about through the planning of the ruling class, nor through revolution, but through unplanned historical changes over several centuries. To me, the idea that modes of production ALWAYS transform through deliberate revolution is ahistorical. What history shows is that modes of production do change, but whether they change through revolution, reform, or in a totally unplanned way over a long period of time, is up to particular material conditions.



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you can just cancel debt and then expropriate expropriators. money is not real. bourgeois economics is fake.
>Bolshevik revolutionaries overthrew the government on October 24, 1917, subsequently creating the Soviet government. The amounts of payments in default were enormous.[3] Russian debt to Great Britain alone at the end of World War I was estimated at between 538 and 568 million pounds. The amount of debt to France was estimated at 3,573 million francs and Russian foreign debt to Japan equaled 147 million dollars.[citation needed]
The debt repudiation
>On February 8, 1918, the Soviet government repudiated all bonds issued by the Tsarist government when the Soviet of People's Commissars of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR) cancelled all previously issued Russian government debt. It stopped payment on foreign debt at the beginning of 1918 and declared that all debts contracted by the Russian Empire were cancelled, as well as the debts contracted by the Russian Provisional Government, so that the war could be continued from February to November 1917.[citation needed]
>At the same time, the Soviets decided to expropriate all assets of foreign nations in Russia. The Soviets also nationalized banks, lands, and industries. By repudiating the external debt, the Soviet government implemented the Petrograd Soviet’s decision of 1905.[4]
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>>2661889
They guys who won WW2 genocided the Boleshivks and collaborated with the west

Broooooooo contracts aren't real broooo. You can just hit the blunt and change your mind at any moment knomsayn.

>>2661260
Wait to hear the mfs that want to pay China debt LMAO

>>2662061
Funny cause including Stalin isn't wrong

>>2661260
debts are real to the extent that the creditor can enforce payment



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Today is the start of WW3 according to the Epstein files and it's going to be nuclear. Say something nice about WW3!

In any case, it was nice posting with you faggots!

See you in the trenches!

Yes, anon, it's too late to get your drone operator license. You will be running away from them instead of flying them
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The State Department told American citizens to "leave Iran now" on Feb. 6, as negotiators for both countries met in Oman amid President Donald Trump's recent threats of military action.
"U.S. citizens should expect continued internet outages, plan alternative means of communication, and, if safe to do so, consider departing Iran by land" to either Armenia or Turkey, according to the Feb. 6 notice.
"Leave Iran now. Have a plan for departing Iran that does not rely on U.S. government help," the notice warned.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/02/06/americans-warning-leave-iran-now/88545097007/

1 more day bros

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Habedig


they changed it to 2028



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Epstein and Maxwell manipulated 4chan and Reddit respectively in order to fuel both sides of the "culture wars". Now they're fueling it once again in order to distract from the revelations that were in the files.
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>>2684529
>Forcing the proletarization of the borderline lumpen.
How is that hitlerian.

>>2684537
>Forcing the proletarization of the borderline lumpen.

So he gave them jobs? Or are you just memeing?

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Epstien created the modern left and its ideology


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>>2684644
>email sent in 2012
>occupy was in 2011

Holy shit you /pol/yps are DESPERATE



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Western leftists of all varieties are larpers. Armed struggle will not come from the college campus.

>>2660968
Burgerland gold chimp

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How did the 6 hour general strike go ? Did it stop fascism ? How did the student walk out for own day gi did it stop fascism is fascism gone because some lazy burgers did a symbolic act

>>2683536
>>2683558
>>2684655
Bumped 20 day old thread award

US empire is the only possibility



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Previous thread: >>2177902

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.
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>>2682159
true true, that being said going from the feudal mode of production to the capitalist mode across the globe was still alot longer than 150 years

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>insatiable urge to grill burgers.
<fast food
<consume
<media
<vidya
<spooks
<etc.
How do I escape the urge to grill burgers, and just interact with people like a normal human being. As an autistic NEET it seems like there's just nothing to relate to. What do burgers even do that's sympathizable? This is a serious question.

how to maximise chances of Total Russian Death?

What's the deal with fungi?

>>2684465
You can cook it without oil, because it contains enough water already.



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