/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

> look at china
China operates by the “light-heavy” principle when it comes to the market. It’s not a neoliberal “free-market” and still purposely maintains SOEs which is why neoliberal capitalists in the U.S. are still pissy.

>>2764291
Find me a market economy that doesn't maintain SOEs and has no government intervention. The reason neoliberal capitalists are pissy is because they have to compete with Chinese capital, since China can pump out 100 cheap EVs for one dogshit F-150.

>>2764291
the US has just as much state aid and protection even if it doesn't have ownership
indeed, regulation and protection from failure matters far more than ownership in terms of skewing market outcomes negatively. americans should all be driving cheap chinese cars, SOE or not.

>>2764294
>Find me a market economy that doesn't maintain SOEs and has no government intervention.
Find me one where 68% of the total registered capital of all firms have at least some level of state ownership and you might have a point. https://sccei.fsi.stanford.edu/china-briefs/reassessing-role-state-ownership-chinas-economy
> The reason neoliberal capitalists are pissy is because they have to compete with Chinese capital
Those aren't mutually exclusive. If they could have implemented and maintained "shock therapy" neoliberal policies in China in the late-70s early-80s, they would likely not be having the same issues they are having today.
>>2764300
Ownership is a crucial difference because it's partially how China was able to reject neoliberal shock therapy. The market instead became a tool for development goals instead of falling into the neoliberal trap of being used by the market for the sake of building U.S. dominance. Using China as an example of neoliberal superiority is nonsense when neoliberalism would have wrecked them completely if it had its way.

>>2764353
ownership is not particularly relevant to that development model, which is why china is a mixed economy. the ownership/control distinction blurs almost to irrelevance in such a context anyway.

what you must understand is that the US state acting in market distorting ways is also bad. this is why liberalism is "good" - in almost all areas, the US following the theoretical prescriptions of liberalism leads to better outcomes. neoliberal economic theory, divorced from its flawed, human advocates, will tell you loud and clear that there should be free trade with cuba. (even if cuba doesn't reciprocate!)

or, back to the thesis of the OP: the implementers of neoliberalism let neoliberalism down. would-be neoliberal presidents continued to indulge in protectionism and obviously inefficient regulated/protected markets. in britain, half of neoliberal-hero margaret thatcher's privatizations put former state assets into "private" markets subject to less competitive pressure than the average chinese SOE. what was good in "actually existing neoliberalism" is fading, and what is bad is expanding. all i'm saying is: consider the inverse. imagine if the good were expanded, and the bad were fading, instead of writing off the whole thing and pretending that the closest thing to the kingdom of heaven on earth is the random statist tilts of the nixon administration combined with headline-programs from the dead USSR.

The primary contradiction is whether you can see why kids like the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch

>>2759242
How is class not the primary contradiction when class is tied to why these are consistent problems?

Like proles care about the environment, bourgeosis dont and destroys the planet for profit, and for decades we've been living understood of upcoming crisis of global warming, and we failed to stop it.

>>2762989
based and productive forces pilled

>>2759242
Greta has been discrediting protests and occupying the political scene since day one.
She makes an excellent controlled oppositional pawn which prevents the people from demanding what they need.

The eradication of false competition which works against the people's interests is a step in removing the establishment, even capturing and holding these government pawns hostage is more reasonable than joining them.

Only no kings protests are viable.

whats the difference between strasserism and national bolshevism

>>2764531
If you get up everyday at the same time, go to the same job, do the same things and go to bed at the same time, your brain starts to skip memory in order to safe power. Then some day you wake up and you are scared, because you are 65yo and wasted you life paying taxes to pedophiles.

>>2764647
kek, also interested

>>2764647
>Strasserism
Otto Strasser was a 'guild socialist' who favored de-urbanization and agrarian self-sufficiency.. Basically what Marx would call a reactionary socialist. He was still completely anticommunist and an early proponent of a NATO/EU style alliance against the USSR.
>NazBol
National bolshevism was born from elements of the KPD and German leftcoms in reaction to the treaty of Versailles, when a lot of leftists were turning to nationalism. Decades later the Nazbol manifesto was published by Karl Otto Paetel which rejected marxist philosophy but advocated a planned economy and an alliance with the soviets. Russian Nazbol is a pretty different thing that came much later in the 90s with Limonov and Dugin and took some influence from the Germans but I'm not sure how much. It seems largely right wing mixed with some left-leaning nationalists like Black Lenin.

why is there a leftypol and a leftychan? personal drama or is one site for one leftist tendency and the other for another

>>2764268
Ofc they're not, I just state that exploatition is against self and class intrest of everyone included in porn industry.

>>2764263
Go back to /pol/

>>2764263
>No one has self-intrest in normalisation of drawn pornography except for those who profit from it.
I think this is an interesting point. But why exactly would it not be in the gooner's self-interest?

>>2764362
Because he's unconscious victim of his own addiction which does cause him to involuntary be a cow for endless profit.

Those people don't only destroy their life by addiction which deepen their sexual frustrations but also some people make profit out of it.

Also they're definetly victims of porn in terms of social interactions, alot of males get addicted to porn at very young age (including drawn ones) which determinate their inability in socialising with opposite sex and even may cause rise of misoginistic behaviours which obviously isn't beneficial for them but they don't realise it until it's too late.

i notice that tumblr is covered in ads for some hardcore ai generated fetish porn now. remember a few years ago when tumblr cracked down on "adult content" by basically shadowbanning every user who posted any remotely revealing pictures of themselves? apparently it was never actually the content itself that was morally objectionable, it was the human content creators who were the real target. it's okay to have a site covered in filthy depraved sexual content for perverts to jack off to, what isn't okay is human sex workers making a living off of it and expecting to be treated like human beings. ban all the sex workers and replace them with ai and suddenly there's no ethical dilemma, you can advertise all the creepy incest ai porn you want and nobody will complain.

>>2760892
maybe evidence that they really weren't bullshitting the country in some boiling the frog op re:the war in iran and really thought they'd be done by now. At this point if Cuba collapsed it'd be a tax on resources to take and occupy 10 million people that don't have any strategic resources when resources are in short supply already for the iran war. pissing off russia doing piracy on their tankers has a different feeling of cost to it now vs before the war a couple months ago. the time table is messed up so they'll get back to cuba later, is what they are likely telling themselves.

>>2760384
donald cuck strikes again!

>>2760915
>is what they are likely telling themselves
Yep. They never allow for the law of unintended consequences so they have to keep making rash judgements on the fly.

more ejercito cubano

>>2760358
crazy how darth putler the right wing dick tator was the only one to step up on this meanwhile all the latam "leftist" goverments cucked out

The working class doesn’t want independence or to rule

Cunt for trying to rehabilitate Kautskyism. Trash for that alone
Also Cockshott wiped the floor with him whenever they issued polemics towards each other

>>2763836
he won't. and if he does, he will just recreate nato. he will labelled 'anti-de-dei-zed' nato o algo.
>>2764057
what do you mean? albanesse and starmer did the same.

>>2764057
the event was closed press, the video was not meant to be released, so he was a lot more candid than usual

new thread:
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>>2763969
Trump revealed his presidential library will be in Miami. He is associated with Florida now and is the stereotypical snowbird retiree

>>2680698
>Who created Christian Zionism? I have been studying the Bible recently and the topic and I cannot find anything in the New Testament that even hints at some future Jewish ethnic based kingdom. In fact zionism seems to contradict historic Christianity.

I think American Protestantism has become a distinct religious expression different from traditional global Protestantism. Maybe the most distinct characteristic of that American Protestantism is its millenarian "waiting for the end times" attitude. There are armies of people who believe in an Evangelical End Times in their lifetime in this Sorelian, mythic sense. Like these people genuinely think they'll live to see the earth open up, armies of angels and demons fighting each other, people disappearing, so on.

I cant stress the reality of this belief enough. Like there's a scene in the movie Red State by Kevin Smith where this murderous cult of evangelicals stop killing and immediately start losing their shit with joy when they think they hear the trumpets signaling Armageddon. If you talk to people who grew up in the background of a strict Seventh Day Adventist household about that scene, quite a few will say it viscerally, emotionally effected them, even after they've left their particular sect, because many have been trained from childhood to think "you'll hear those trumpets one day and the end times are coming."

The modern incarnation of Christian Zionism, functionally, is an attempt to hasten the end times. They've created a "checklist" of "prophecies" that they think must be fulfilled to usher in the end of days. One of those is that they imagine the modern nation-state of Israel must exist and all the Jews must go there and another temple must be built, and then Jesus will come back to end the world. But they'll see it as a time to rejoice because all the sinners: the whores, the fags, the papists, the muslims, the buddhists, the atheists, the drug addicts, and all the others will be dragged down to the fiery pits of Hell while they get to ascend to Heaven.

What's especially funny is that Trump personally fulfills a lot of the criteria for "Antichrist" but because these Christians are a modern Pharisees and emPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

THE “CHRISTIAN” COLONIALIST STATE CALLED ISRAEL

The Zionist settlers should listen to Sayyed and leave so called israel . Sayyed seems to know the root of the problem, and the solution to this problem; and he has warned the settlers to stop being part of this endeavor and to leave the place if they want security and safety, because there is no security and safety in the temporary state. Sayyed added they should do this as soon as possible because there will come a time when they will not be able to leave . Sayyed seems to bring up the fact that what is in store for israelis is what was in store for the Vietnamese agents to the US when the US decided to withdraw after it was defeated by the Viet Cong and left behind thousand of agents to their fate .
The truth is that the problem that very few are bringing up is that of the foundation of the usurping state, and how it was founded and who founded it, and the role of the Jews in all this .The owners of the project of israel are not the Jews , they are the colonialists, and the colonialists imposed it on the Jews who rejected it and refused it at first before some notorious Jews accepted it and embarked on it and made most Jews embark on it .
Many sources say -including Chomsky -that israel was conceived in the sick minds of European Christians. This is where the concept of israel took birth and developed. It is a Christian concept ; and this concept had to go through racism and anti Semitism and wait for the 2nd world war in order to materialize. The European colonialists- together with the Nazis- started this endeavor before some Jews signed up for it under colonial pressure . The Europeans segregated against the Jews , and the Nazis persecuted them, after which – and due to which- the colonialists sought to protect the Jews – so to speak- and shelter them by sending them to Palestine, a place that they could claim because of historical and religious reasons and where they could be protected . But this is only in appearance .The truth is that the israeli endeavor is but an updated version of the crusades of the medieval times; it is a Christian colonial endeavor that seeks to take possession of what the Christians think is theirs which is Jerusalem and what is considered to be the Holy Land where Jesus Christ lived and died on the cross. The Jews here are only a cover and a useful tool .
The israeli endeavor is a very old one , and it took centuries for it toPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2763155
THE CHOSEN PEOPLE AND THE DOCTRINE OF DISCOVERY

“At the beginning of the Crusades in 1095, Pope Urban II issued the Papal Bull Terra Nullius – a decree explaining the policy of the Catholic Church about empty land. This decree gave European kings the right to “discover” and claim land in non-Christian areas. In 1452, Pope Nicholas V extended this policy through the Papal Bill Romanus Pontifex that declared war against all non-Christians in the world and authorized the conquest of their nations and territories.”
Colonialism is a Christian church doctrine. It is an occasion to acquire wealth in an illegal way by robbing others. The Christians are the chosen people, and the promised land is the whole world. It is this doctrine that was the starting point of colonialism. A doctrine that gives supremacy to the Christian western civilization over any other civilization, and gives to this civilization the right over any land or anything that belongs to non Christians. This allowed the Spanish court to usurp the Native lands in the New world and- as a result- everything in the New World belonged to the Spanish court, and therefore to the Church, including the lives of those who live on it, not to speak of the resources. And because those resources were limited as the land is limited, the whole endeavor needed to be organized and the shares distributed .What founded the state of israel is this doctrine that is functioning up to this minute, and what the colonialists got in terms of non Christian territory they gave to the Jews as a compensation for the violations committed against them and in order to get rid of them after persecuting them , and as an attempt to use the Jews in a new experiment and find. The israeli endeavor is a colonialist endeavor by excellence .
Therefore colonialism does not act blindly and in a random way. It is based on a clear political doctrine and it is founded on a law issued by the Church itself , and what the colonialist Christians are doing is applying an existing law, and this regardless of the kind of Church involved in this endeavor because this is a universal law . This law – the Doctrine of Discovery law – has been cancelled recently by the Vatican, and the Vatican hopes by this to absolve the Church from all the crimes that were committed by the church itself who funded these expeditions that were deadly to millions of Natives. However, the effects of this Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2680698
> cannot find anything in the New Testament that even hints at some future Jewish ethnic based kingdom. In fact zionism seems to contradict historic Christianity.
Yes the bible specifically says that the Old Jews lost the covenant and that the New Jews(Christians) have it now. Israel is the church which is the body of Christ. The descendants of Abraham is anyone who believes in Christ.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%209&version=HCSB
>9 I speak the truth in Christ—I am not lying; my conscience is testifying to me with the Holy Spirit[a]— 2 that I have intense sorrow and continual anguish in my heart. 3 For I could almost wish to be cursed and cut off[b] from the Messiah for the benefit of my brothers, my own flesh and blood. 4 They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the temple service, and the promises. 5 The ancestors are theirs, and from them, by physical descent,[c] came the Messiah, who is God over all, praised forever.[d] Amen.

>6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Neither are they all children because they are Abraham’s descendants.[e] On the contrary, your offspring will be traced[f] through Isaac.[g] 8 That is, it is not the children by physical descent[h] who are God’s children, but the children of the promise are considered to be the offspring. 9 For this is the statement of the promise: At this time I will come, and Sarah will have a son.[i] 10 And not only that, but also Rebekah received a promise when she became pregnant[j] by one man, our ancestor Isaac. 11 For though her sons had not been born yet or done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to election might stand— 12 not from works but from the One who calls—she was told: The older will serve the younger.[k] 13 As it is written: I have loved Jacob, but I have hated Esau.[l]

>Galatians 3:28-29, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor femPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Evangelicals that want to destroy the world, won't it suck if they turn out to be right on eschatology?
If the catholics are right I'll just go to purgatory but if the evangelicals are right then I'm going straight to hell, do not pass go, do not collect $200

>>2764220
COPE

>>2764222
who cares?

>>2764132
You are doing reification. The USA literally relies on human trafficking to feed itself. That this doesn't match 1:1 chattel slavery is true yet meaningless.

>>2764131
>Defeated fascism
But the USSR and China allied with Nazi Germany and the US

>>2763801
I'm gonna help the third world by working as a digital nomad and just live airbnbs in broke places like costa rica

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SPECTRE:
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