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What's the Marxist analysis on neets? Are they lumpenproletariat?
Would I be executed or put in a gulag in a revolution?

meow
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>>2899720
We used to also have places for these people, church institutions, the university, and so on. The primacy of capitalism and the destruction of communal life has kind of removed all these spaces that society has developed for neurotypical men (large percentage of neets i would assume).

>>2899731
Yet there are third world neets. Although I imagine they either live in the less screwed up parts of the third world, come from relatively well off families or from smaller families. Or maybe they're dependent on transfer of money from relatives working in more developed countries.

>>2899738
non-neurotypical*

>>2899681
A lot of people don't like alienated wage-labor and will do as much as they can to avoid if it at all possible.




 

🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Van Jones is a Zionist genocide-denying piece of shit edition



OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
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>>2898667
the title was clickbait. this is just a BigJoel tier radlib video at the end of the day

>>2898610
i'm sure democracy will survive. we just need mueller to investigate again

>>2898513
Mao shook Nixon's hand, and Nixon said "We are all Keynesians now."

Today Trump shakes Xi's hand and Trump says "We are all Dengists now."

>>2898300
it was me, i was that chimpanz-ACK

>>2898145
Isn't this similar to what Turkey did? Keeping the currency low and so on?
It's just copying the homework of a fellow fascist-aspirant state but without delving into the reasons as to why that might work for them.



 

This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators sorted by last name

>Paul Cockshott

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Is Cockshott still working on a book on stochastic materialism or have I missed something?

>>2897010
that was finished already. https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/defending-materialism-9781350447349/

i have a hard copy im working through

has anyone ITT read Marx after Sraffa? according to Arguments For Socialism, Steedman taught Cockshott and Zachariah. the latter seem somewhat critical of him

>>2897688
>2024
Whoops. Is it any good?

>>2898897
I have just started reading it and I would say it’s somewhat academic, cockshotts main co author is a Macedonian who knows Ancient Greek pretty well.

This is a book on academic philosophy and ontology somewhat just be prepared for it not to be a page turner



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🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Aux armes, citoyens ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
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French people deserve a safe space and guarantees for their continued existence on loser imageboards!

Français! Ne succombez pas à l'impérialisme anglochiotte!
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>>2898132
Tu sais très bien que Abdelkader va buter 3 juifs une semaine avant le premier tour

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Taxer les patrons c'est hitlerien maintenant

Comment c'est possible d'être facho et marron en même temps ?

>>2899529
Si tu veux dire dans le contexte d'un pays blanc comme la France métropolitaine c'est souvent purement pathologiue, ça vient d'une volonté de se sentir unique, les facho marrons sont souvent homosexuel d'ailleurs voir même transgenre comme Eva Daughter-Remember.

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>>2899529
La réponse tient en un mot : Islam. Y'a quand même un certain nombre de gens faisant parti des minorités qui détestent l'Islam pour diverses raisons et qui s'allient aux fachos qui détestent aussi l'Islam parce que l'ennemi de mon ennemi est mon ami. Bon évidemment, si les fachos passent, c'est image ci contre mais en attendant ils pensent que c'est la meilleure façon de faire leur bras d'honneur à la sharia.



 

China tries to impose 20% tax on people in living in other countries that are not main land China.
Hong Kong CHINA region is affected.

Chinese citizens living in foreign countries will be expected to declare earnings and send 20% tax of earnings back to mainland China.

Other countries are likely to respond economically by applying harsher regulation conditions on Chinese, even though Chinese do not follow any set regulations.
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The influence from the North Korean peninsula onto their government has mutated their government from a technical perspective. It's surprising to get North Korean workers in western countries.

I actually like the communist ideal, but that idea is used mainly as a means for societal goal unity. The overriding technical comes from Cai Qi their actual leader and he overrides ideals set in place.

Shouldn't we brand Chinese communism as Cai Qi Communism? It's more accurate and at least we would all know what we are actually talking about.

>>2899571
How is it imperialism when these are Chinese citizens living abroad? They aren't proles either.

China is the new USA but more boring lmao



 

have recently been absolutely swamped by articles such as this on many of my feeds

https://archive.ph/NUCFc#selection-647.0-647.67

and really want to know how others here look at data like this and dont completely black pill over it. i feel like there is very little hope that things are getting this bad and we still seem to be determined to make them even worse.
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>>2899170
give me the hopium then


>>2899171
Unfortunately you don't get to know, you just have to live.

>>2899219
>>2899184
GIVE ME THE HOPIUM, PLS

>>2899272
Hope isn’t something you know, you just have to feel it



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Unite protests outside No 10 North over lack of jobs for NHS-trained workers
Next month in the north-west of England alone, 77 newly qualified clinical psychologists will face the prospect of unemployment or leaving the NHS for private practice despite the NHS spending £19.25 million training them over three years, it warns.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/unite-protests-outside-no-10-north-over-lack-jobs-nhs-trained-workers

French centre-left candidate launches presidential bid amid divided left
Centre-left politician Raphaël Glucksmann on Sunday launched his bid for the French presidency, aiming to unite moderate left-wing voters and challenge Jean-Luc Mélenchon’s influence ahead of France’s 2027 election. With Marine Le Pen leading first-round polls, Glucksmann is seeking to position himself as a pro-European, pro-Ukraine alternative to both the far right and hard left.
https://www.france24.com/en/france/20260823-glucksmann-launches-french-presidential-bid-as-left-seeks-to-challenge-far-right
https://archive.ph/zxwLN

Clashes erupt at migrant facility in northern Greece
The violence began shortly after 9 p.m. when a group of migrants reportedly tore down part of an internal fence and attacked police with stones. Buildings, common areas, security cameras, firefighting equipment and service vehicles were damaged. One entire wing was destroyed, forcing residents to move to another part of the facility.
https://www.ekathimerini.com/news/1313218/clashes-erupt-at-migrant-facility-in-northern-greece/
https://archive.ph/sCzCJ

In Kfarchouba, life is 'a big prison' under Israeli occupation of south Lebanon
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‘Pathetic Stuff’: Jeffries Rebuked Over Secret Meeting With Kushner
The New York Times reported Sunday that the two men “met privately in recent weeks” in order to discuss “potential areas of common ground” if the Democrats regain control of one or both chambers of Congress in the midterms.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/jeffries-kushner-secret-meeting

Far-right instigator among those arrested for probable cause riot in Minneapolis, police say
Police say a confrontation between the two groups happened quickly and chemical irritants were used by both sides. Police also say there is no evidence an MPD officer on scene deployed any irritant. Shortly after, police say Lang and the two others fled the scene after their cars were overrun by counter-protesters.
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/far-right-jake-lang-rally-arrested-inciting-riot/

‘I hate Democrats, but I love Abdul’: voters who left over Gaza return for progressive push
Polling shows a majority of Democrats oppose military aid to Israel, a position that has slowly gained some traction in Washington. A similar majority of roughly 75% supports the Medicare for All proposed system of universal healthcare and abolishing Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), three positions shared by El-Sayed. Meanwhile, the Democratic party’s approval rating has reached historic lows, at times sinking lower than Trump’s favorability. “The party is totally lost right now,” Sarwar said.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/23/democrats-abdul-el-sayed-progressives

Pete Buttigieg returns to South Carolina as he weighs another White House run
There was a standing ovation in a Black church in South Carolina when Buttigieg was credited for helping bring millions of federal dollars to the area for a project as President Joe Biden’s transportation secretary. A second ovation came as Buttigieg gave a speech warning of a country in “big trouble” while laying out his ownPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Puerto Ricans Fight Back Against Water Rationing and Privatization amid Severe Drought
The government of Puerto Rico is rationing water in San Juan and other major cities as a severe drought continues to worsen, with no immediate relief expected. Since August 7, more than 180,000 customers are facing 48-hour water interruptions under a rotating schedule, as the Aqueduct and Sewer Authority (AAA) and the island’s government work to address the escalating crisis. July was the driest month ever recorded in San Juan in more than 120 years, and the capital’s fourth-hottest July. According to the U.S. Drought Monitor, nearly a quarter of Puerto Rico is currently facing severe drought, while an additional 36 percent is experiencing moderate drought. The drought is intensifying, but thousands of Puerto Ricans had already been dealing with water shortages, with some communities going without reliable water for up to a year. Many residents have been denouncing that the infrastructure that supplies water and is under AAA surveillance has not received adequate maintenance for decades, causing 60 percent of the water to be lost. But Puerto Rico’s water crises cannot be separated from its colonial status, the authority the United States has over the island, and complicit political parties.
https://www.leftvoice.org/puerto-rico-water-rationing-privatization/

SKP leader exposes the limits of Swedish democracy: “A democracy for the establishment parties”
With less than a month to go before Sweden’s 2026 general election, Communist Party of Sweden (SKP) chairman Andreas Sörensen has denounced what he described as a political system designed to protect the established parliamentary parties and marginalize forces that challenge capitalism. Speaking in Stockholm on August 15, Sörensen argued that Sweden’s much-praised democracy rests on deeply unequal conditions. Parties that surpass 1% in a parliamentary election receive publicly funded ballot papers distributed nationwide, while smaller parties must finance and distribute their own. Parties above 2.5% also receive substantial state funding, while the 4% threshold for entering parliament further shields the established political forces.
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Can we understand the progression of history through the analysis of class and contradictions in society? Why do liberal historians deny the existence of economic class, but insist on social class? A classic example might be the Marxist, Georges Lefebvre, saying how the bourgeois class spearheaded the French Revolution due to an erosion of the divine right of kings and the expansion of mercantilism. But Alfred Cobban denies this simplification of French society, and states that different social classes agitated for the toppling of King Louis for separate reasons, including women as a social class or certain nobles seeing the monarchy as outmoded. Even the peasantry, Cobban argued, were not determined by the economic bonds of the bourgeoisie in relation to emergent property, but by the overspending and debt of the monarchy that could no longer sustain food domestically and over-taxed. Is Marxist analysis merely touching the surface without looking deeper?
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Sounds like the French revolution was overdetermined

>>2896266
Marx:
<And now as to myself, no credit is due to me for discovering the existence of classes in modern society or the struggle between them. Long before me bourgeois historians had described the historical development of this class struggle and bourgeois economists, the economic economy of the classes. What I did that was new was to prove: (1) that the existence of classes is only bound up with particular historical phases in the development of production, (2) that the class struggle necessarily leads to the dictatorship of the proletariat, (3) that this dictatorship itself only constitutes the transition to the abolition of all classes and to a classless society.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1852/letters/52_03_05-ab.htm

Who did he have in mind? Smith? Sismondi?

>>2896372
Did you have anyone in mind? How about Thomas Piketty? I don't know his work in depth but I remember people called him a liberal socialist or somesuch. I believe he basically said yeah you gotta tax the hell out of capital owners or inequality is gonna get real bad because returns on capital are better than the rest of the economy, and the only other thing that can reset it is war, plagues, and other disasters (not sure if he included revolutions or if that goes under war). So he doesn't publicly declare class war as the driving force I guess, but he divides society into capital owners vs. everyone else.

I also remember some paper in Scientific American that said free markets always lead to concentration of wealth even if everyone starts off equal.

>>2898579
Oh, I forgot the last bit of the Marx letter:
<Ignorant louts like Heinzen, who deny not merely the class struggle but even the existence of classes, only prove that, despite all their blood-curdling yelps and the humanitarian airs they give themselves, they regard the social conditions under which the bourgeoisie rules as the final product, the non plus ultra [highest point attainable] of history, and that they are only the servants of the bourgeoisie. And the less these louts realize the greatness and transient necessity of the bourgeois regime itself the more disgusting is their servitude….

>>2896621

This is false though.

Eg. Agitating for a move towards a unitary government structure away from a federal one requires no appeal to identity. Same for any of demands for policy, structural or systemic changes.

You are also equivocating. Treating say working class politics as nothing but a specific kind of identity politics is to confuse being a worker in the relations of production sense versus being worker in its cultural & aesthetic social conception (in s given time, place, etc.) They are not the same thing.

Another Eg. Eating spaghetti does not necessarily make someone be identified as or self-identity as Italian.

>>2896393
>>2896352
Great posts ! Thanks anon



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July 31, 2026

The Postcolonial Volk
By Benjamin Zachariah
Polity, 176 pages, $25

You might have noticed that at some point, progressive types began to use the term “folks” to refer to “people.” There are black folks, queer folks, indigenous folks. The change is significant. Whereas “people” evokes a sense of a universal subject, “folks” is particular. It implies a world of distinctions: different cultures, different experiences, different interests. No people, just “peoples,” all speaking with a different voice. From this perspective, “The political world is a pluriverse, not a universe.”

While the idea of a pluriverse has become increasingly popular within decolonial thought, that last line didn’t come from the tradition’s ever-proliferating ranks of academic adherents. It came from Carl Schmitt, the Nazi jurist. At a time when everything is “literally Hitler,” the comparison can seem overwrought. But it is precisely the comparison between post-colonial particularism and the völkisch right that Benjamin Zachariah reveals with a keen sense of the absurd in his new book, The Postcolonial Volk.

Zachariah critiques the “conglomerate” of postcolonial and decolonial theory clustering around what’s come to be known as “theory from the Global South.” But appearances are deceiving, because it’s not really from the Global South at all. As Zachariah describes, its language and legitimacy claims are crafted in the Global North, exported to the Global South, and then reimported as authentic non-Western knowledge.

And just as it is not really of the Global South, this ostensibly left-wing “postcolonial-decolonial-Global South conglomerate” is not really of the left either. Despite the right’s insistence that the ghost of Karl Marx is currently undertaking a long march through the institutions, Zachariah’s central claim is that the contemporary left actually has far more in common with anti-communist and proto-fascist forces than with the nineteenth-century founder of “scientific socialism.” In important respects, its ethos actually arises from an entirely rival tradition, one that encompasses romantic nationalism, indigenism, cultural organicism, and völkisch thought. It is, Zachariah says, “Romanticism, rather than the much-reviled Enlightenment, that suggests itself as the intellectual basis of the ‘post-Enlightenment’ world that Global Southistan now lays claim to.”

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>>2897320
>you would pass through the causal space wherein there is an acausal existence of extraterrestrial entities in the Milky Way approximately sixty-five light years away.
i think it is referring to a nexion to the planet though i can try to confirm with them what they mean
>This has happened to me frequently; that I have had a dream about someone just before they call me
oh yeah this is really interesting. it seems like there might have been a time in human prehistory where it was far more common for entire tribes to be extremely in tune with one another
<As Rupert Sheldrake reports in The Sense of Being Stared At, Europeans who have gone hunting with the Bushmen in the Kalahari Desert of southern Africa have noticed that the tribe, whose encampment is as much as fifty miles away from the hunting site, seems to know whether or not the hunt has been successful.82 If it has been, preparations to welcome the victorious hunters begin to be made immediately so that by the time they actually return everything is in order for a ceremonious reception. When queried about this ability, the tribesmen who were somewhat familiar with the colonial culture tapped their chests and drew a comparison to the telegraph: “They know by wire. We bushmen have a wire here that brings us news.” There is a strong correlation between the technological development of artificial aids to navigation – such as signposts, maps, and compasses – and the atrophy of this primordial experience of directional orientation towards things of concern in their places.
i think modern cultures likely further lost this ability as life became more rationally mediated and it might also be comparatively harder to maintain as there are more people. but you can imagine that stuff like gods might have at some point have a much more real presence due to this acuasal syncing. actually this also takes me to the piraha. often what gets emphasized about these guys is that they are atheists, but they actually do believe in spirits but they are for them very tangible entities
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>>2897498
oh yeah i should note that i think what hegel was noticing with "genius" is a limited articulation as mesmerism is an underdeveloped usage of psychic abilities. daoist dao fa is meanwhile premised upon stabilizing one's taishi body so that it is no longer excessively reactive. this allows one to behave as their own genius. this leads to a sort of inverted form of hegelian self-consciousness with the the infinite process of the true infinite starting from the pole of the taishi field to incorporate the stabilized taishi body within it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu7SLhKOyKc

with these notes it would appear that the occult could perhaps have its own phenomenology and "shapes of spirit", and a historical materialism of the occult might be an interest field of study. the following is an interesting looking book ive read a bit off but it is more focused on the husserlian tradition of phenomenology with deleuzian seeming concepts
https://centreforexperimentalontology.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/tractatus5-2.pdf.pdf

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>>2897498
>it seems like there might have been a time in human prehistory where it was far more common for entire tribes to be extremely in tune with one another
As you reference, Hegel comments upon "animal magnetism" by means of the "feeling soul", which has an intrinsic kinship relation (1830):
<the phenomena of animal magnetism have given, even in experience, a lively and visible confirmation of the underlying unity of soul, and of the power of its ‘ideality’ […] traces of this magic tie appear elsewhere in the range of self-possessed conscious life, say between friends, especially female friends with delicate nerves (a tie which may go so far as to show ‘magnetic’ phenomena), between husband and wife and between members of the same family.
https://hegel.net/en/enz3.htm
Psychic sensitivity thus produces this "magic".
>hegel's true infinite is not simply nothingness
No, since Hegel is concerning himself with "becoming", not "being". I personally take "necessary evil" in the constitution of law as the meaning of freedom by a primary prohibition, given in Rousseau (1755) and Paine (1789). I thus possess a liberal ontology, where it is our entrance into society from nature by medium of the state which allows our freedom. Now, ideally, the Kingdom of Ends, as given in Kant's deontology, naturally leads to Proudhonist mutualism, but this requires an adherence to Dharma, which is only perfected in the Golden Age (e.g. Satra Yuga). On Dharma, I enjoy a false Luther quote:
<The Christian shoemaker does his duty not by putting little crosses on the shoes, but by making good shoes, because God is interested in good craftsmanship.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/924405-the-christian-shoemaker-does-his-duty-not-by-putting-little
The "protestant work ethic" is obviously reminiscent of this end.
>Occult History
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>>2897202
you're looking like a real loser in this convo. they're actually reasoning and you're saying "haha debate addict ur wrong no connection between lib and fash and actually ur libfash cuz weeb avatar"

not an arg
not an arg
not an arg
not an arg

>>2899053
not an argument



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So let's do an honest review of the encampments. What did they really accomplish?

  • Temporarily stop/slow down the genocide?
  • Stop US transfer of weapons to Israel (Rafah)?
  • Brown University ultimately rejected divestment, meaning the student demands were nof fulfilled.
  • Change of public opinion of Israel?


What's the conclusion comrades?
Also why wasn't there a general strike?
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Also excuse me for bumping.
Shit liberal/neofascist concern-trolling thread.
Saged, reported, exposed, thread hidden.

>>2898913
What demands did they achieve? Getting Mamdani elected? Lmfao kill yourself.
Tanking Israel’s image to absolve American imperialism from being the true terrorizer of the Middle East is precisely what the ruling elite wanted (and successfully achieved partly thanks to these radlib protests).
>>2898916
The US is still in its unipolar era (I’d argue it has been in the unipolar power since 1945, but that’s another discussion). If anything, the US is more powerful militarily than it was in 2003. Multipolarity is a cope.

>>2898935
What the fuck are you talking about Mamdani you unironic fucking spaz? Can you even point me to the American campus protest who's demand was allegedly 'Mamdani as MayoR!'? Or are you simply off your meds?
>>2898728
>76 universities cut ties in spain alone.
Also probably in your country too, and others.
The fucking state of you people. It's beyond embarrassing.

>>2898935
Did I say "multipolar"?
We're objectively in a "bipolar", global imperialist system, due to the rise of social-imperialist China since the 2010s.
Baathist and Bolivarian countries were leaning on United Russia primarily, not China.
None of the regional countries that chose subservience to China are being rolled over but rather are explosively outperforming expectations. These are Myanmar Tatmadaw, Cambodia vs Thailand, Pakistan vs India and Iran vs US. As we speak China is lapping the US in terms of the heights of computer technology research, even AI, and setting the stage for popping the US economy (which rests on US AI company hype) into an economic crisis, taking the OECD countries with them for x years. Last time that happened, China's economy continued unscathed while benefiting immensely, due to its different macroeconomic approach that's more resilient to FIRE sector instability. But you knew this, I'm sure.

>>2898913
despite complaining about armchair leftcoms these people will always be butthurt over anyone of any political persuasion doing anything so they can continue being a contrarian who genuinely thinks they're better than everyone else for being an anti-social shut in. typical imageboard pathology with some marxist jargon sprinkled in if we're being honest.



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