/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

I know this is going to sound fucked, and I'm not happy about saying it, but I'm starting to think that the only way the American left is going to survive is if the "Third Turdist" wing, the Maoists, the anarchists, the black bloc types gets crushed under the weight of a terrorism designation. and the best possible thing any normal level headed leftist can do is do not get involved, don't even vocally support them and turn them into martyrs. Espescially the anarchists, why would marxist-leninists who follow the actual communist international get involved in a civil war on behalf of them and other deviationists? And I hate that I'm even typing this but sometimes logic needs to trump feels.

Look, I've been in leftist spaces for years. I've read the theory. I've done the organizing. But these people are not serious. They treat revolution like a LARP. They assault random civilians. They smash windows and call it "propaganda of the deed.". They celebrate mentally ill shooters. They dress as hamas and celebrate the death of US servicemen in the streets. And then they wonder why normal workers think we're all insane.

The Islamist militant groups GWOT has been fighting for decades are hardened, disciplined, and ideologically driven by something that tells them they are rewarded in the next life. These anarchist and Maoist street fighters? They're not. They're soft. They're mostly middle class kids with face tattoos and oppositional defiance disorder and they can't even handle a 90 hour work week without quitting let alone the full weight of an anti terror crack down. their rehtoric is vietcong, their balls are the size of chestnuts. Once the GWOT energy gets redirected onto them once the feds start treating antifa like they treated Al Qaeda these people will fold like a lawn chair. They don't have the training, the discipline, or the popular support to survive a sustained crackdown. Now sure some of them are actually competent or smart people but those people are constantly drug down by the normal base of twitter maoists and tumblr anarchists.

And here's the part I really hate to admit, Trump might actually be doing real leftists a favor by going after them. Because right now, these people are the single biggest obstacle to the majority of Americans accepting socialism. Every time a normie sees a masked anarchist smashing a Starbucks window, that's another vote for the far right. Every time a Maoist calls a union worker a "labor aristocrPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

You guys don’t fine it weird how this man became the world's first trillionaire and then you go to his social media and he spends all day reposting videos of minorities committing crimes, anti-immigration propaganda, etc.?

It’s like he knows his ass is on the line and he's desperate to redirect the anger of the masses to another target. The worst part is that it works.

Deng Xiaoping Theory saved Marxism from irrelevance by shifting its focus from perpetual class struggle to practical economic development. In the late 1970s, orthodox Marxist-Leninist economies faced severe stagnation and widespread poverty. Deng revitalized the ideology by introducing market mechanisms into a socialist framework, creating a model that allowed communist states to survive and thrive in a modern globalized world. [1]

Rebranding Productive Forces
Prioritizing wealth: Deng argued that poverty is not socialism.
Redefining communism: He stated that true socialism must develop productive forces.
Shifting metrics: Economic output replaced ideological purity as the primary goal. [2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Decoupling Markets from Capitalism
Pragmatic tools: Markets and planning were viewed as economic tools, not defining political traits.
Market Socialism: He proved market mechanisms can serve a socialist economy.
Foreign capital: China opened doors to global investment while maintaining state control. [7, 8, 9, 10, 11]

The "Seek Truth from Facts" Philosophy
Rejecting dogma: Deng discarded blind adherence to utopian Marxist theories.
Results-oriented: Policies were judged by their ability to raise living standards.
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Protests staged in Metro Manila on PH Independence Day 2026
Participating groups were from Bayan, Anakbayan, PISTON, Karapatan, and allied organizations. Their protests focused on opposition to imperialism, calls for just peace, withdrawal of United States troops, and the repeal of defense agreements, while also denouncing alleged foreign military aggression and demanding to "junk EDCA." Signed in 2014, EDCA or the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement grants American troops access to designated Philippine military facilities, the right to construct facilities, and to pre-position equipment, aircraft, and vessels, but does not allow permanent basing.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/991206/protest-independence-day-issues/story/
https://archive.ph/XGfsU

Bengal: Red Flags Stand up Against BJP Bulldozers to Defend Hawkers
Acting on petitions filed by the Centre of Indian Trade Union (CITU)– affiliated Railway Hawkers’ Union and associations representing small businesses, the Calcutta High Court on Wednesday (June 10) ordered temporary suspension of the eviction process in the railway markets of Naihati, Dankuni and Konnagar until June 17. Justice Hiranmay Bhattacharya, while issuing the order, directed that neither the Railway authorities nor the state government would be permitted to carry out any forcible eviction at these three locations until June 17.
https://www.newsclick.in/bengal-red-flags-stand-against-bjp-bulldozers-defend-hawkers

A Myanmar rights group urges FIFA to drop Mytel’s World Cup rights over connections to military
The group, Justice For Myanmar, told The Associated Press on Friday it only learned this week that international soccer’s governing body FIFA had granted the exclusive Myanmar broadcast rights to Mytel after the telecoms operator launched its local advertising campaign for the World Cup.
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>"Wanted to have an adventure and kill some people. Joined up in ‘04, did Fallujah and Ramadi, and managed both. Hell of an excellent experience."

>"There are times in this world when, for the good of tolerance and humanity, you need to kill a motherfucker. Sadly most people who are true believers in tolerance and humanity find that activity repulsive. Which I suppose is morally good, but pragmatically a shortfall."

>"Out of curiosity, what would you say to the many Marines and Soldiers who took trophies and desecrated bodies while fighting the Japanese? I find the urinating on bodies as a poor choice, but only because of the current state of media affairs. It's amusing that today killing a man isn't worthy of comment, but god forbid you display dominance. Only 50 years ago, and for the rest of the history of warfare, this stuff was pretty standard."

>"We are going to kill thousands. By the end of it, it may be millions. Our way of life is better, and if that is what it takes to prevail, let's get this show on the road. I don't disagree with your point, I just disagree with the fact you seem to think we shouldn't do it."

https://archive.org/download/graham_platner_reddit_comments/graham_platner_reddit_comments.txt

the tattoo and the racist and misogynistic stuff graham platner has said in the past were certainly red flags for me, but honestly when i actually started reading through the comments myself, i realized it's actually worse than people seem to realize. it goes beyond just teenage edgelord internet shenanigans, this is someone who seems to have a genuine fascination with killing and hurting people, he talks about it a lot and brags about it a lot, he claims that he joined the military because he wanted to kill people and that he enjoyed killing people and he constantly talks about how empowering it feels and how much he misses it.

i've known a lot of people who have served in the military and i've never known any of them to say things like this. but i have heard a few of them talk about meeting certain other members of the military who did. most people who join the military are decent normal people who join for the usual kinds of reasons - Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Being decently read in both Anarchist and Marxist schools of thought is really funny, because of how much shit people from both schools of thought clearly haven't read outside of that school of thought. Like I've seen both anarchists and Marxists say shit that's blatantly not true about each others theory because I think people don't like reading things they might potentially disagree with. I actually read anti-socialist texts from time to time, because I generally like to keep an open mind about such things, i feel like people get so absorbed into one of way of thinking that it just leads to thought termination. Also being actually exposed to ideas you disagree with helps you better formulate your disagreements with said ideas and to actually better critique them. Any thoughts I guess, I'm not shit talking the tendencies by the way more the behavior of certain individuals within them.

In the case of slavery, we see that in the British Empire, it was abolished through reform. They passed the act to abolish it in 1833. In the case of America it was abolished through Civil War. Both slaves and white people were in the union army and participated in abolition. In the case of Haiti we have revolution. The slaves overthrew their masters. Some say were a few Europeans on the side of the slaves, ironically a Polish diaspora who Dessalines eventually made legally black and protected from the purges that targeted the French.

In the case of serfdom, we see sometimes the organic disappearance of serfdom from society through its obsolescence. Britain never emancipated its serfs through legal acts. Instead the black plague and 1381 peasants revolt weakened the institution without abolishing it, and by 1600 it was largely over with. the 1640s English civil wars, which some call its bourgeois revolution, did not even abolish serfdom, since it was already through by that point. In other cases we see a top down-abolition of serfdom, as in Russia, under the tsar in the 1800s , and in Japan through the Meiji restoration. These were not bourgeois revolutions but top down reforms carried out by rather conservative and autocratic institutions that had resisted change for as long as possible.

The transition between the slavery of late antiquity and the serfdom of the middle ages was likewise a very gradual process, and did not happen through revolution or reform, but through more subtle historical processes taking place over several centuries. There were servile revolts such as the famous one led by Spartacus, but these were failed revolts, not transformative revolutions which changed the mode of production.

These lead me to my questions:

1. I think it is indisputable that class struggle plays a foundational role in the history of all societies. However, is revolution always inevitable, or is it only what happens when all other options fail?
   
2. If other options succeed, is that undesirable for communism, since communists want these changes to happen through revolution?
   
3. If the same problem can be tackled in different ways, and history shows that through evidence, then why cling to the thesis that it can only happen one way?
   
4. Isn't it a bit teleological to insist that the capitalist mode of production must end in a specific way, i.e. through reform, through re

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Why are so many modern communists obsessed with liberal concept of indigenous rights? When communists dont believe in land ownership or inheritance.

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Jewish people are an ethno-religious group that have largely been ostracized from Christian/muslim society because they were here first. It’s created, beyond just a religion, a form of ethnic identity. This board believes in decolonization, and in the principle that children should not be judged for their identities and the identities of their parents. That should extend fully to Jews as well and it’s far and away the biggest issue I have with this “leftist” group that many of you want to exclude such a large population of historically marginalized people. Some of the best leftists from Marx and Luxembourg to Goldman and Bookchin, Jewish individuals have written much of the theory we practice today.

We can, and should, be antizionist, but antizionism ≠ antisemitism. The most bigoted thing you can do towards a Jew is to assume they are spoken for by a genocidal apartheid regime, and to unionize your fight for antizionism with the rights fight for antisemitism. Don’t get the two confused and don’t be a schmuck.

Loyalist have called for roads and business to be closed tonight, riots starting
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cr47x99k5n6t

Let's watch live

RIOT TIME
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