/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>Why would the society described in Plato's Republic be undesirable according to a Marxist perspective?
Who said it was undesirable?
But the problem with such governance is it will naturally drift toward gerontocracy due to modern medecine.

>>2874029
The decay of order is also a theme in Plato. Stalin also writes upon how all "organic" movements have life cycles of youth and death.
>>2874016
>Why would the society described in Plato's Republic be undesirable
Well, I suppose it depends-
>according to a Marxist perspective?
Did you read the text? Plato's Noble Lies are literally (i) Religion and (ii) Class Society [e.g. the Myth of Metals].
>We know all the problems with democracy and how the masses of people can't be trusted
But Plato's primary political criticism is really that the elites become perverted by power and money, and so they must be decoupled by conditions of (i) intra-marriage, (ii) eugenics, (iii) shared property, (iv) austerity, etc.
>the republic abolishes private property and calls for communal raising of children
No it doesn't. Shared property only extends to the Guardian caste of 'philosopher-kings' [e.g. Warrior Priests]. The division of labour in the lower orders presupposes private property and commerce.
>Being ruled by the wise is undoubtedly the best system of government
Yes, but Marxism is not about systems of government.

Plato is UTOPIAN SOCIALIST, ANTI-USURY.

marxism isn't about what's desirable or undesirable it's about what develops as part of how the laws of society move

>lib vs lib vs lib
We don't need more liberal revolutions

>>2874089
Go back to your national-anarchist hugbox you unfunny epsteinchan-derivative pseud: http://bordiga.party

>>2874004
bro what a weird ass thing to say
>you're a victim of a heinous crime!!!!!
how is that a gotcha to anyone but a reactionary slime mold

>>2874002
>>2874031
thank you for the replies to this question. I will ponder them now but don't have much to say back except thank you. I just want you to know I have received and read them.

>>2874164 stop moralfagging on leftypol

Welcome to Aggieland!

>>2870927
Yes, you see the same in how elites defended Epstein, MJ, Polanski, Weinstein etc for decades. They literally think that if rich people get held to any account, it's basically opening the doors to a Communist uprising. Only under unique circumstances do elites ever throw eachother under the bus.
The elite are very class conscious and have class solidarity.

>>2840794
Ayn Rand, Milton friedman, Mises, David Ricardo, Rothbard were jewish. (the Arquitects of the Capitalist Dystopia we live today)

Overlapping interests of the various sections of the haute bourgeoisie. Some of whom are indeed Zionist ethnonationalists or white Christian shabbos goyim. Others are driven by a desire to see the Middle East dominated for American interests to which Israel is in fact a vehicle for that. The MIC of course, sees Israel as a major customer for their wunderwaffen. Even amongst the supposed "ideological" supporters of Israel, many are simply bought off by Israeli agents such as AIPAC. Take comfort in the fact that many of these supposed "jewish conspirators" do not actually desire Communism despite what fascists tell you. As >>2871799 said. The ideological architects of our neoliberal anti-human hellscape are in fact Jewish Zionists.

>>2871815
Yeah but Israel doesn’t actually buy weapons the us just gives it to them

>>2873495
RCPUSA are Bob Avakian’s cult, RCA are the trots descended from Alan Woods (In Defense of Marxism, International Marxist Tendency)

>>2872646
(CPI) Center for Political Innovation [Innovationist]

Uppppppp

Wheres the butthole penis party

>>2873659
>PCUSA
this is the party Dankey switch to for a while. but I think he's since given up on it

>>2873647
What's false about it

>>2873196
the israel/ukraine relationship is more than a shared love of fascism: the ancient tribes of israel bought ukrainian mail order brides to try to fix problems caused by their horrific practices of inbreeding.

they still have religious holidays that involve trips to ukraine, and they still buy ukrainian mail order brides. every so often it makes the news, usually because once the women arrive they start beating them (51% DV rate) but more lately to congratulate themselves for saving them from the war (like domestic slavery in israel is better).

>>2873740
anti-Christ thought

>>2873586
Did they say anything explicitly fascist?

>>2873196
are you mentally retarded? the azov battlion is led by jews. and the nazi symbolism they use, is to trick retards into dying for them. that is why they are called 'kosher' nazis. swear you guys on here, like to be intelluectually dishonest or are retarded -100 autism score

>>2873745 this was so hecking scary,,, never put this image again,,, hope this helps

You can’t get famous doing a mass shooting anymore, which is the goal, you have to kill a CEO or Trump or something

>>2873742
There was one in Quebec recently but he was an incel, doesn't count

>>2873745
HOLY FUCK HE's BRItitsh!!!!

>>2873745
she would get it

>>2872880
king shit

>>2872880
>site of a massacre that killed Americans
What kind of Americans?

>>2872880
>>2873704
Anyways loldog, I stand with my Muslim Americans exterminating as many of our Israeli Americans as they can. Godbless and godspeed. You can't hide behind "American" because you are not, you are the most subversive little parasites to ever hit this country.

Israel still isn't being punished.

Did this retard really go to the US? Might as well move to Tel-Aviv.

>>2873326
Imagine how it feels to be the butt of every joke inbetween whitoids.

>>2872506
Tech isn't static and owned considering once created people will adopt and copy it regardless of its origins due to humans being a social and an adaptive species. I'm glad though that white nationalists are outing themselves as Ayn Randtards considering how feckless and philosemitic they are.

>>2872653
i don't care about the context because I am not the retard you were replying to. you are both retarded.

Out of curiosity, do any biological women use this website, lol.

>>2873499
What are you seething about, exactly?

>>2873729
Sir, HRT changes your biology.

>>2873729
>Out of curiosity, do any biological women use this website, lol.
They're sure as fuck not going to tell you, anon.

>>2873499
Im not encouraging shit, I just said its based because it is

Pete Hegseth Puts New Price Tag on Iran War With Billions Requested
The updated tally came as Hegseth appeared before the Senate Appropriations Committee, where lawmakers are weighing the White House’s request for $87.6 billion in additional funding—money the administration says is needed to cover “urgent needs” tied to the conflict and to “reinforce peace through strength.”
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pete-hegseth-iran-war-cost-billions-senate-funding-request-12225493
https://archive.ph/J3hWP

US appeals court overturns ruling that freed Columbia activist Mahdawi
In a decision on Tuesday, a three-judge panel of the 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals — made up of two Trump appointees and one judge appointed by former President George W Bush — ruled the lower court shouldn’t have ordered Mahdawi’s release because the case should have been resolved in the immigration court system, which is overseen by the US Department of Justice. While the ruling doesn’t order Mahdawi’s immediate re-arrest, it removes the order allowing him to be released. The American Civil Liberties Union, which represents him, however, said there was no legal basis to deport or re-detain him while the appeals process continues.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/7/21/us-appeals-court-overturns-ruling-that-freed-columbia-activist-mahdawi
https://archive.ph/3OkdO

Trump admin freezes more than $1 billion in Medicaid funds
The Department of Health and Human Services said it also will expand its authority to remove bad actors from federal health programs and possibly bar them from returning. CMS said it reviewed California's claims for certain in-home care programs after identifying spending growth that exceeded national trends and other claims officials said require more documentation. The agency also cited Medicaid claims in 14 service areas in Minnesota that it said require additional documentation, including expenditures linkPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Francesca Hong Wants To Be America’s First Socialist Governor
The Wisconsin Democratic primary for governor has gone haywire. Over the last week, Lt. Gov. Sara Rodriguez dropped out amid a campaign finance scandal, and a candidate who had suspended his campaign, Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley, rejoined the race — immediately nabbing an influential endorsement from current Gov. Tony Evers. Meanwhile, state Rep. Francesca Hong, a democratic socialist, has surged in recent polls. Is this last-minute shakeup a coincidence, or part of a concerted effort to keep Hong from securing the nomination? Today on Lever Time, David Sirota speaks with Hong, the candidate in the middle of it all. They discuss the opposition to her grassroots campaign, why she thinks her politics are better positioned to defeat Republicans, and why she believes the entire debate over “electability” misunderstands this political moment in the United States.
https://www.levernews.com/francesca-hong-wants-to-be-americas-first-socialist-governor/
https://www.podbean.com/ew/dir-2acsi-2f904fad

How Egg Price-Fixing Went Unpunished
Despite acknowledging he thinks about Americans’ financial situations “not even a little bit,” President Donald Trump has made a show of addressing the cost of living through a variety of initiatives. These have included, among other things, establishing TrumpRx.gov to sell generic drugs, occasionally suggesting that he’ll directly send checks to Americans, and warnings to grocers to voluntarily reduce beef prices. One example is the recent investigation by Trump’s Department of Justice (DoJ) into three egg producers for collusion and price manipulation. Cal-Maine, the country’s largest egg producer, worked with two competitors to manipulate egg prices from 2022 to 2025. Annual profits at Cal-Maine alone rose from about $200 million a year to over $1 billion a year. The case was settled earlier this month, resulting in a $3 million fine and agreement to donate fifty milliouyghs — basically a slap on the wrist. The egg producers no doubt settled out of court because of the strength of the evidence against them: conference call and message records demonstrating Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2873619
>agreement to donate fifty milliouyghs

Heh

Tybna

>>2873619
>As Jaser Abu Mousa notes in Foreign Affairs, this is yet another sign of the deteriorating relationship between Tehran and the Palestinian movement:

<Iranian leaders seemed frustrated that Hamas launched the attacks of October 7 without giving them sufficient warning. Iran, in turn, did not do much for Hamas during the war in Gaza. Hamas then did little when Iran itself came under attack. Both entities are currently rebuilding, but Iran’s new leaders are more focused on controlling the damage in their country, rebuilding, preserving their nuclear program, and managing a cease-fire than on aiding their onetime ally.

What the fuck was Hamas supposed to do for Iran?