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The question of why Trump’s Iran war hasn’t sparked a wave of anti-war protest music is actually very simple.

The overall American left has been stuck when it comes to effective anti-war activism. The way the US does war nowadays isn’t Vietnam but El Salvador: instead of sending in a bajillion troops to invade/occupy the US just funds proxy armies and now uses drone/aerial warfare. That’s what Obama did in Syria last decade, for instance.

The anti-war music we’re all used to was very much a product of the 60s New Left, and there was no 60s New Left without the Civil Rights Movement and Vietnam War. The youth were afraid of being drafted into a bullshit war that the U.S. couldn’t win. But we don’t see mass boots on the ground today, and because of that, we don’t see a mass response to war in the cultural realm. In order for Billie Eilish to be “John Lennon”, Iran needs to be Vietnam (Gd forbid). In order for Kehlani to make a “What’s Going On?” or a “Someday We’ll All Be Free” Iran needs to be Vietnam. The war needs to conform to a method of warfare that the left knows how to effectively oppose. It’s morbid and disgusting but that’s sadly the case.

And assuming the “woke” pop stars make music in response to this conflict, what will it contain? It won’t be universalist anti-war or anti-imperialist anthems but centre entirely on “I hate Trump, this war is about Epstein, AIPAC bad”. Will be highly dated in three years once Trump and his goons leave office.
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>>2789504
>I wish politicians would look out for miners
>And not just minors on an island somewhere
he's effectively saying that the whole 'esptein's island' controversy isn't as important of a scandal that it should supersede the interests and concerns of actual working class people. people will object to this by saying that this line is meant to downplay the importance of such indecent behavior by the wealthy elites, but in my mind he's saying that, in an ideal society, such a scandal would either not have taken place at all, or wouldn't dominate the headlines and network airtime over more pressing issues, which supports the point that the dude has working class interests at heart, and considers them to be of the highest priority in political discourse.
>Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat
>And the obese milkin' welfare
>Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
>Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds
the imagery conjured here may be slapstick or comical to some, or even blatantly offensive, but it serves as a juxtaposition between two different negative outcomes that are the result of poverty, which we know is a symptom of the fallibility of capitalism. whether you're starving in the street or subsisting on low quality pastries composed of bleached and enriched flour and high fructose corn syrup, you're a victim of the aforementioned impoverishment that arises when corporate interests are given more precedence than the needs of the populace.
>Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
>'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down
and then he segues into some lines that acknowledge the hardships that men face in our contemporary society, without pressing on any particular issue aside from suicide, which is more a negative outcome for men who are unable to find their way as a result of said issues, than a cause of anything.
furthermore…
>These rich men north of Richmond
>Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
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>>2789526
All of this is reaching.

Besides, most of the American working-class isn't white, so why are we propping up a white guy as the "voice of American workers"?

>>2789527
>it's reaching because…because it just is, okay!
okay?
>Besides, most of the American working-class isn't white
what's race got to do with it? if you're working class in america to day, you're proletariat, regardless of race.
>so why are we propping up a white guy as the "voice of American workers"?
nobody's doing anything, I merely explained how the song could be interpreted as a pro working class song. do you mean to tell me that you think a white guy could never be propped up as "the voice of american workers"?

>>2789526
>he's effectively saying that the whole 'esptein's island' controversy isn't as important of a scandal that it should supersede the interests and concerns of actual working class people
No it's a double-entendre where he use multiple meaning of lookout to say "I wish they helped workers instead of diddling kids", he doesn't litterally means politicians shouldn't only look at that scandal

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>>2789534
strange interpretation, but ok. I don't think we're in disagreement, the lines clearly point to the author's desire for politicians to "help workers" more than focus on a highly publicized scandal involving wealthy pedophile elites. surely, one way for a politician to do such a thing is by focusing the discourse around the interests and concerns of working class people, no?



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Were the fashies triggered by him depicting them accurately in Salo, therefore they went out of their way to prove him right by abducting, torturing, and murdering him? Or was he just a libtard bourgeois film maker making exploitative torture porn and got killed completely randomly?

Interested in what y'alls various takes are.
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>>2786181
>degenerate
I agree with the rest of your point, but fuck off with that reactionary ignorance.

>>2786167
the director of salo

>>2781811
>you want your leaders to be Fascist because you want to feel like rebels
what if I think my leaders are fascist because they actually are and i don't in fact feel like a rebel but acknowledge that i'm a do nothing coward?

>>2789481
The fact that you aren’t in a camp and that your nation hasn’t imprisoned, exiled, or killed its political dissidents tells me that you must have one of the most ineffective groups of authoritarians ever. Again this literally confirms my view, you want your leaders to be Fascist because you want to feel like a rebel. You’re unwilling to acknowledge material reality, like every western leftist that’s why the western left is in the state it is.
My country is not Fascist, it’s a corrupt hybrid regime, but I still could be jailed for my real political opinions about the state religion. I could be murdered if I speak against certain political figures who might send party thugs to kill me me. Still, I do what I can within my limitations and that’s what most of us do here.

I’m going to give you the same advice the Vietnamese delegation gave the Weather Underground, donate whatever you can spare and write to your congressman. That’s it, that’s all anyone has asked from the western left.

>>2789518
Fascism is liberalism in crisis



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post simple images that utterly blow the fuck out of liberals and fascists.

I know trading theory is important and all, but sometimes I just want to show a retard total proof in a single image
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I wanna like hug and snuggle his head…

I love maoy my husbo

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>>2789467
the thing about Sowell is he was a beast mode Marxist which makes his later work sting a bit.

I'm like talking about citing The Kugelmann letter to defend the concept of value:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1868/letters/68_07_11-abs.htm

>>2789478
>the thing about Sowell is he was a beast mode Marxist which makes his later work sting a bit.
he just revealed his opportunism. in burger land you get paid to renounce marxism whil you get killed for being marxist. it's an easy choice.



 

‘Stop sucking up to America’: Japan’s youth rises up to protect pacifist constitution
On Sunday, an estimated 36,000 people squeezed on to narrow paths in front of the National Diet – Japan’s parliament – to call for an immediate end to the Iran war and to keep the country’s “pacifist” constitution intact. The event was the latest in a wave of protests that are attracting people in greater numbers each time. An estimated 3,600 people demonstrated in late February, swelling to 24,000 by late March, culminating in this weekend’s huge turnout.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/22/japan-youth-pacifist-constitution-trump-iran

The head of Myanmar’s army-backed government proposes new peace talks with armed resistance groups
Nay Phone Latt, a spokesperson for the National Unity Government, the main group coordinating opposition to military rule, said Tuesday that it and the People’s Defense Force units under its command would continue to fight alongside other resistance forces until their goals are achieved. “We all already understood that the military’s fake invitations are aimed at prolonging people’s subjugation under military rule,” Nay Phone Latt said.
https://apnews.com/article/myanmar-ethnic-armed-groups-peoples-defense-force-peace-ceasefire-db8959bd9d90158b6b3e1b8e56a82f7f

Pakistan delivers weapons to Libya's Haftar as part of Saudi-financed deal, sources say
A second official confirmed that the shipments from Pakistan had taken place, but did not say what type of arms were provided. Reuters first reported that Haftar’s eastern-based government had sealed a $4bn arms deal with Pakistan - the country’s largest - following a trip in December to Benghazi by Pakistan's army chief, Field Marshal Asim Munir. The delivery of Pakistani arms to Libya has not been previously reported, but comes against the backdrop of rising skepticism about the fate of other Pakistani arms deals in Africa.
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TYBNA

Requests for US legal aid linked to Palestine activism far surpass pre-2023 levels
Palestine Legal also saw a spike in immigration-related requests after Trump returned to office and signed an executive order to target pro-Palestine student activists, leading to “a cascade of unlawful and cruel state-mandated kidnappings intended to intimidate and silence the growing student movement for Palestinian rights”, the group noted.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/21/us-legal-aid-palestine

Citing Child Cancer Risk, Lawsuit Targets Trump EPA Over Glyphosate =
Just days before the US Supreme Court is set to hear arguments related to glyphosate’s health risks, the Environmental Working Group on Tuesday sued the Trump administration for unlawfully delaying its response to an EWG petition seeking stronger restrictions on “the most widely used herbicide in the United States and globally.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/glyphosate

US military service members will no longer be required to get annual flu shot
In a video statement posted to social media, Hegseth described the mandate as “overly broad” and “not rational” and the decision to drop the vaccine requirement as “seizing this moment to discard any absurd overreaching mandates that only weaken our war fighting capabilities”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/21/military-flu-shot-requirement-pete-hegseth

Southern Poverty Law Center charged with defrauding donors with payments to extremist informants
The Justice Department alleges the civil rights group defrauded donors by using their money to fund the very extremism it claimed to be fighting, with more than $3 million paid to informants through a now-defunct program to infiltrate white supremacist and other extremist groups. Prosecutors allege some of the money was used by extremists to carry out other crimes, but court papers did not include specific examples. “The SPLC was not dismantling these groups. It was instead manufacturing thePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Erik Houdini: What is Praxis?: Becoming Activated
“Man can affect his own development and that of his surroundings only so far as he has a clear view of what the possibilities of action are open to him. To do this he has to understand the historical situation in which he finds himself: and once he does this, then he can play an active part in modifying that situation. The man of action is the true philosopher: and the philosopher must of necessity be a man of action.” — Antonio Gramsci
What's praxis? Like, for real though—be for real. What is this nebulous concept? Praxis is when your friend says, Hey, we want to do some kind of anti-American event for 4th of July, and you pivot to, Yeah, let's give the money to the Palestinian Red Crescent Society and a local immigration organization. And let's tie the struggles back to the Global South and the imperial core because we're all ultimately oppressed by the same oppressors: the capitalists. That's praxis. Praxis is the connections we make between people on individual levels as working-class individuals. It's staying back after the show is over and asking, Hey, does anyone need any help cleaning? Praxis is mutual aid in action. It's when you find out one of the homies hasn't been eating. You don't just say damn, that's rough. You start asking around. Can we get him on food stamps? Can someone help him navigate the Medicaid website? Can someone front groceries until we get it figured out? It's collectivized survival. It's pulling together the fragments of a busted welfare state and patching it up with your own labor and time. It's when the plaza gets skate-stopped, so you grab a crowbar, a bag of Quickrete, and the homies to tear that shit out at 3 AM. It's when you say, Yeah, we're taking $5 off the $15 show if you bring two cans of food. They've got to be good cans of food, no scum shit. And then all that money goes back to a local pantry. That's real mutual aid. That's real praxis.
https://houdinimagazine.com/articles/2026-04-09-erik-houdini-what-is-praxis

Slavery reparations are just, but who exactly owes whom?
The contemporary framing of the reparations debate is seductive in its simplicity: Europeans arrived in Africa, Africans were enslaved, Europeans grew rich, and Africans became impoverished. TherPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

TYBNA



 

The PRC hasn't been keen on defending even their own interests, let alone supporting communist movements or even the Global South.
In fact, they've supported a bunch of regimes that have crushed or have intended to crush communist insurgencies.
Can you imagine a militant Japan or a starving Cuba if the Soviets existed today?
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PLA barely even exists
The entire country is a Potemkin village on steroids

>>2789243
This is like discovering that the average Catholic doesn’t really care about theology or something
No fucking shit

>>2788418
>They got mogged worse than them in Vietnam
ancient history
>their new shit is largely untested though
burger cops and chinese cops do olympics style games together and the burger cops always lose. burgers are out of shape and flabby.

>>2789322
class society will continue until every man can download kung fu and marxism into his head matrix style. we need a world of philosopher-kings

>>2789355
I’m pro-China, but let’s drop the “China number one” posturing. Chinese leadership knows their military hasn’t been tested in modern warfare, which is why they tend to observe from a distance and adapt based on what they learn. It’s also why they keep their military relatively small. it’s a pragmatic approach. For the same reason,I don’t believe they’ll invade Taiwan, they’re not retarded like americans.



 

Israel has killed Catholic priests, destroyed statues of Jesus Christ in a Maronite Christian village in Southern Lebanon, there was one video originating from the West Bank of a boy no older than 5 or 6 years old where an IDF soldier unzips his pants and sticks the boy's head near his crotch, a strike killed father Pierre Al Rahi, in November 2024, Israeli soldiers from the Golani Brigade desecrated the St. Mema church in the Christian village of Deir Mimas, southern Lebanon (soldiers staged a mock wedding ceremony, danced, and simulated sex acts inside the church), Armenian Christians in Israel are attacked by Jewish extremists, Armenian Christians in Lebanon are teaming up with Hezbollah to fight Israel in Lebanon, and even though Iran is an Islamic country, they are allied with Orthodox Armenia who Israel genocided through their support of Azerbaijan in the Nagorno-Karabakh War. There was one church in Lebanon that was destroyed by Israel in 2024. In 2025, Israel desecrated a church in Sarada in Lebanon. 10 Americans were killed in the West Bank by Israel over the last years with zero accountability by the Israeli government.

On October 7, 2023 Hamas killed 1,200 Israelis in a low-tech invasion of Israel after the 2018-19 Gaza border protests where Israel used live ammunition on protesters, killing 223 protesters (including 46 children), and injured 9,204 others (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–2019_Gaza_border_protests), then that lead to the clashes in 2019 where Palestinian rockets killed 4 people inside Israel (source: https://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-05/06/c_138036325_13.htm). Prior, from 2008-2018 after the security checkpoints were set up in Gaza and the border wall with the West Bank following the Second Intifada, until 10 years later, only 30 were killed by rocket fire(source: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/258177344/#q258177344). This lead to the 2021 Israel-Palestine crisis where 14 Israelis were killed, 114 wounded, 1 soldier killed, 3 wounded, 1 aerial drone was destroyed in friendly fire, 2 Jewish Israelis were killed in Lod & Acre riots, and 2 soldiers wounded, 6 border police injured inPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


Abrahamists killing each other, who gives a fuck
The Middle-East has been a war zone for 5000+ years and it will continue and they have 0 tolerance for Muslims so will almost certainly fully ethnically cleanse them. I really don’t give a shit either way



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Unironically using the word geopolitics for example.
https://www.booksite.ru/fulltext/1/001/008/009/600.htm
Geopolitics is a bourgeois, reactionary concept that uses distorted interpretations of physical and economic geography to justify and promote the aggressive policies of imperialist states. Geopolitics's core ideas assert the decisive role of physical and geographical conditions in the life of human society and the inequality of races (see Racism). The theories of Social Darwinism (see Social Darwinism) and Malthusianism (see Malthusianism) are also used. Geopoliticians make extensive use of the concepts of "living space," "natural boundaries," and geographic location to justify militarism and wars of conquest.

The concept of geopolitics arose during the period of imperialism. The first representatives of geopolitics were the Swedish political scientist and pan-Germanist R. Kjellén, who proposed the term "geopolitics" during the First World War (1914-1918) (as a doctrine of the state - a geographical and biological organism striving for expansion), the German geographer F. Ratzel, the English geographer H. Mackinder, the American admiral A. T. Mahan. In the period between the two world wars, geopolitics was intensively cultivated in Germany. Geopolitics became the official doctrine of German fascism. The head of the German geopoliticians was General K. Haushofer, the founder and editor (in 1924-44) of the journal "Zeitschrift für Geopolitik" ("Zeitschrift für Geopolitik"), which promoted the ideas of revanchism and aggression; K. Haushofer was closely connected with the leadership of the fascist party. In the United States in the 1940s. Geopolitics' ideas were developed by N. Speakman and other geographers and sociologists.

After World War II (1939–45), geopolitics began to revive in the United States, West Germany, and other imperialist states to justify the militarization of their countries, aggressive policies, and ideas of revanchism directed against socialist countries and national liberation movements. In West Germany, the journal "Zeitschrift für Geopolitik" was republished in 1951; the "Union of Geopolitics" was revived. Contemporary geopoliticians attempt to explain the contrast between socialist and capitalist countries by geographic factors.
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>>2789206
First pic is the lumpenfeed goycattle sloppastare I (second pic) get when i'm talking about proletarian genetic theory (they are mendelist hitlerites)

I’m confused about some of the examples given in this thread. Some of these listed would rather be examples of errors of self-ascribed socialists but not necessarily examples of being a Hitlerite. I think anything that is immaterialist reasoning/understanding/motivation of or for socialism is indicative of being a Hitlerite. Every so called socialist who turned into a fascist or accomplice of them had some hang up in their conception of Marxism that was never rectified, such as Italian fascists.

>>2788806
> refusal to engage with the basic contradiction of first world trade unionism with anti-imperialism everywhere else; refusal to engage with (oftentimes out of fear of) the lowest and most oppressed masses
By the lowest, most oppressed classes, you mean university students, leftists who live with their parents and other lumpenproles, truly the most oppressed class

>>2788763
this
/thread

>>2788806
Drop dead retard



 

Colombia convenes climate ‘coalition of the willing’ to break global fossil fuel deadlock
While 54 countries have confirmed their attendance at the conference, some of the world’s biggest economies and biggest polluters, including the US, China, India, Russia and the Gulf petro states, will be missing. “Whatever nations have not yet taken that decision, then this is not the space for them. We are not going to have boycotters or climate denialists at the table,” Vélez said.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/apr/17/colombia-convenes-climate-coalition-of-the-willing-to-break-global-fossil-fuel-deadlock

Venezuelan Gov’t Resumes IMF, World Bank Ties, Appoints New Central Bank President
On Thursday, Venezuelan authorities additionally announced a change in the Central Bank leadership, with Luis Pérez replacing Laura Guerra as president of the institution. Guerra had been appointed to the post in April 2025 by Maduro. Pérez is an economist who had served on the BCV board of directors since 2018. In his social media profile, he describes himself as a cryptocurrency enthusiast. .. . .
https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/venezuelan-govt-resumes-imf-world-bank-ties-appoints-new-central-bank-president/

Argentina's government counts 9,421 people living on streets across 19 provinces
It found that 83 percent of those living on the streets were male, with the resulting 17 percent female. By age, 92 percent were aged 18 or over, with six percent classified as minors. Of those quizzed, 32 percent had been homeless for more than two years. Denying them access to public services, 10 percent did not hold a national identity document (DNI). Fifty-two percent of respondents had completed primary school but did not finish secondary education.
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Senate passes short-term FISA extension, following House in maintaining surveillance law through April 30
The spy authority, known as Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, was set to expire on Monday. The extension approved Friday pushes back the deadline by 10 days, until April 30, as lawmakers try to reach a longer-term solution.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-passes-short-term-fisa-extension-after-house-does/

Family of US man who died after officer shoved knee into back sues police
Adair was arrested in July on misdemeanor warrants for failure to appear on multiple traffic violations. At the time, Adair’s leg needed to be amputated and was so badly infected that he was taken straight to the hospital, a Kansas bureau of investigation agent wrote in the affidavit. Before Adair was cleared to return to the jail, he was diagnosed with a type of bone infection that sometimes develops in people with diabetes. A medical screening also found he was schizophrenic, the affidavit said.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/17/kansas-man-death-charles-adair

Democrats eye new strategy after Iran war powers fail
It's the kind of showy flood-the-zone tactic that the Democratic grassroots is constantly trying to get the party's lawmakers to pursue in resisting the Trump administration. It's not clear if House Democratic leadership will get behind the tactic, but even some centrists aren't immediately dismissing the proposal. "I'd welcome it," Rep. Susie Lee (D-Nev.), who represents battleground-district members in leadership, told Axios.
https://www.axios.com/2026/04/16/iran-war-powers-trump-democrats-congress-house
https://archive.ph/viZ9e

Employees at first ever Starbucks store seek to unionize amid fight for contract
The average time it takes for a union to reach a first contract is about 465 days, but Starbucks workerPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

“Meet our demands!” – Workers’ uprising in India
Since the 13th of April, a mass workers’ uprising has been raging in the southern industrial areas of Delhi. On the one hand, this was a direct response to the rising costs caused by the war in Iran; on the other, workers’ protests had been taking place repeatedly in industrial centres since the start of the year. They demanded shorter working hours, higher minimum wages, higher overtime pay, payment of outstanding wages and equal working conditions for temp workers and permanent staff.
https://www.angryworkers.org/2026/04/15/meet-our-demands-workers-uprising-in-india/

Will More Warehouses Burn?
“If you’re not going to pay us enough to fucking live, you can at least pay us enough to not do this shit,” the man says as he reaches out with a lighter and ignites a pallet of toilet paper. Minutes later, multiple pallets can be seen burning in a video taken inside the 1.2-million-square-foot Kimberly-Clark warehouse located in California’s Inland Empire. “There goes your inventory,” the man says. The warehouse quickly became a raging inferno, requiring 175 firefighters and fifteen truck companies to subdue the six-alarm fire over the next fifteen hours. Warehouse workers were safely evacuated, and no one was injured by the blaze. Police quickly arrested twenty-nine year old Chamel Abdulkarim, who they say posted several self-incriminating videos of himself lighting the fire on social media. If convicted, Abdulkarim could face up to twenty years in federal prison. He has pleaded not guilty. I’ve spent my life trying to organize workers in smart and strategic ways to build power. Burning down a warehouse is not on my list of effective working-class tactics — quite the contrary. But I doubt that this is the last time we will hear a story of one low-wage worker’s incendiary revenge, and this story in particular goes much deeper. To understand it, we need to start with Kimberly-Clark’s financial disclosures to the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).
https://jacobin.com/2026/04/california-kimberly-clark-warehouse-arson

Oscar Wilde 1891: The Soul of Man under SPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2785234
>Argentina's government counts 9,421 people living on streets across 19 provinces
is this an increase or why is this news worthy

TYBNA

>>2785323
In the news article:

>Separate data from Buenos Aires City also shows a sharp rise in homelessness. According to a survey conducted by City Hall’s statistics agency and its Human Development & Habitat Ministry, the number of people living on the streets rose 27 percent over a 13-month period.

>Between April 2024 and May 2025, the figure increased from 3,560 people to 4,522.

So yes, there was a significant increase.



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I don't know which board this belongs to. Brutalism or functionalism has been the main architectural choice for most of the Eastern Bloc nations, I've enjoyed it for its utility but also thought of the prospect of elegance and appeal so I did some searching looking for any compromise between it and my other favorite styles - baroque and gothic and it seems like at some point galician baroque had a brutalist turn on its own accord as seen in Santa Clara Convent in Santiago de Compostela, Spain, by Simon Rodriguez (1719).
I am primarily interested in this because my organization wants to have its own office & offices at some point, right now all we've got is an apartment space used for storage and our own personal homes / apartments. I want something functional yet plausible from an aesthetic point of view.
Panel structures are not really plausible anymore - panels are no longer produced since the privatization of the industry, had it been an option we would've just settled for our own panel bloc.

Feel free to use this as an architecture general, but I'm trying to find some achievable examples of good looking buildings. I am beyond tired of shitty squats that refuse to remodel in fear that they might end up being lost anyway.
Very fond of pyramids in peculiar, as most people know pyramids are the most structurally sound and therefore stable structures that can last eons regardless of all sorts of disasters.

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>>2789177
Some more examples of Galician structures in a brutalist style. Although I fucking hate brutalist statues, they look like ass. The DPRK doesn't make statues like that for a reason. See this beauty on pic3. Soviet Realism is way better for expression than brutalism. Brutalism is only good for practicality / utility.

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>>2789192
Brutalist sculptures all look like this garbage to me.

>>2789192
That horreo has a detailed ornament so not really
That lighthouse was built by Romans not Gallicians

>>2789194
>pic
It's like Mata Nui and Squidward's House had children



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Chapter 15 sucks. I thought it wasn't supposed be an appeal to morality? Recurring in several parts of the text but chapter 15 especially is a pure slog.
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>>2788829
thank you again for the MZT/M3W/MLM effortpost

How do you "justify" anything without an appeal to morality?

>>2788892
someone more philosophically inclined will probably clown on me for this but I think the 3 forms of justification are

>might makes right

>truth makes right
>morality makes right

something can be one of those things without being the other two.

An appeal to morality is only an appeal to moralists not necessarily an argument in an of itself.

>>2788522
The section on the Factory Acts is crucial to understanding the role of 'progressive' reforms and the state to capital. Limiting child labor and the working day allowed the further rationalization and extension of industrial production, while the seething laizzez-faire factory owners were actually better off once the laws were in place and their workforces weren't dropping like flies.



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