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I'm just thinking.
The most important factor in the definition and practises of communism during history is the role of the State in the revolution.
Marx argued that after the proleatarian takeover and socialization of the means of production the State would simply "wither away".

I am not sure, but I think this is based in a hegelian style type of dialects in which he places the "dictatorshio of the ruling class" as a thesis, then the revolutionary takeover would be an antithetical form of dictaroshio which would result in the synthesis of communism or the stateless and classless society.

To be honest, this seems like a very simplification of reality if true and that would be the reason why so many revolutions failed.

The state don't simply disappears, because maybe it isn't only a "superstructure" vased on material relations but something much more complex than that.

Hegel defined the State as some type of collective rational which is the way God guides society, and Marx's views would seem to be the complementar opposite to that theory which would be also wrong, because the State is not God or only a product of material relations but something different.

It seems the State intead of disappearing it just change its form to something else. This doesn't mean it is guided by some kind o "superior being" but it also disproves the idea it is just a temporary thing that can simply disappear.

I would be interested in discovering what the true nature of the State is, becaue it seems to be, as I said, the central point of both the revolutionary theory and also communism in general.
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>>2800233
You are a fent addict.

>>2800229
>>2800233
What is so hard for you to uderstan the idea that the State is both a form of social organization and rationality but can also be a form of social oppression?
I think even Marx would agree with it. This is some obvious shit and not a "word salad" (dumb little minded americans and anglos in general tend to use this expression for simple fluid thinking they can't grasp).
This is scientific because it comes from historical observation and also analythical thinking (derived bothe from marxism and other traditions, like weberian).

>You are supplementing class struggle and the abolishing of classes with vague (non-quantifiable) notions of social struggles. This is falsification.

Am I really?
Did the abolition of private property ended social conflicts in any way? Didn't Stalin and Trotsky had to fight for the "correct way" of conducing the revolutionary state?
You are just ignoring simples historical facts.
This is not simply binding words in an ecletical way, the reality seems to be this complex and we should analyse the world not as a blank sheet of paper and with a dialectical simpkicity but as a complex form of arrangement of societies, in which the State places itself as a battlegroung of human class and individual struggles.

I am not exactly an orthodox marxism but I don't disagree entirely with him. I am just evolving his theory after all we have seen.

>>2800239
Yes, you are american and yes, you have problems with continental way of thinking and this includes Marx itself.
You are just full if rage that can't grasp a simple fact or observation about the nature of things.
You are a disposable tool after any kind of revolution as you should be.

(I am more o a weed addict tho, cope and seethe, dumb tankie).

>>2800200
Anarchist (dumb): We don't have a state we have a horizontal federation of communes.

Marxist (smart): We don't have a state we have an administration of things.




 

Do you believe in the Bible? I'm a Baptist (eternal security/Once Saved Always Saved, Free Grace, anti-calvinist, sola fide type Christian. First you had the Ice Age, then the Ice Age melted, then that lead to stories of people building arks to survive regional floods from the Black Sea in the Neolithic period or Mesopotamia. Then came Moses. Then came Jesus who died around 33 AD under Tiberius. If you believe he is God, the "son" of God, and his death is sufficient to cover all your sins, you are saved. No works you can do will save you. Charismatic Pentecostal heretics who spew uyghurspeak at their churches they call "tongues" when even the Bible says it ceased and it was only meant for the Apostles to speak in foreign languages. Speaking nonsense like these "Apostolic" Christians like the NAR, are all heretics on their way to hell. They are the same people Jesus will say "I never knew you". The law of God is to believe in the son to have everlasting life. If you believe your works are why you should go to heaven you are at odds with Jesus and the gospel. The bible called them Pharisees. They were religious experts on the Torah and the Law of Moses so brilliantly and yet it became a source of cultural pride for them. The Sadducees didn't even believe in an afterlife! Some judaized Christians to this day don't (like "A Messenger of Truth" on YouTube). Jehovah's Witnesses don't. Hebrew Roots don't. All of these heretics who don't look to Jesus for life are doomed for Hell along with all the prosperity pimps. Anti-Paul people are never goodfaith. They've never read the Bible thoroughly. Romans is like Holy Water to a demon that is these people.
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>>2800470
Without that evil deed no one gets saved, he sacrificed his immortal soul on those thirty pieces of silver to save humanity, Judas is the most loyal disciple, the only one with the stomach to do what Yahweh needed without question, but he doesn’t get rewarded for it like David.

>>2800472
Well, in the Book of John, Judas is described as being a vessel for the Devil in the act, and later repents (refunding his silver), and committing suicide. So, if its the Devil who sells out Jesus and Judas who repents, then perhaps he is saved. For example, in Revelation, the 12 disciples are described as the 12 pillars of the New Jerusalem, meaning that Judas, as one of the 12, must be preserved. However, in Acts, Matthias is elected to replace Judas, so was Matthias always the 12th disciple? It can hardly be so. We see the 11 brothers of Joseph in Genesis sell him to the Egyptians for 20 pieces of silver, by which Joseph becomes a great King - so Jesus relates to Joseph in this way, by being sent to death, yet rising as a great King. The 11 tribes are not judged so, but are redeemed from their original iniquities. The 12 tribes then reunite and give entrance upon Jacob/Israel.

So the Judas and Jesus story is very much like that of Joseph. Jesus also asks Simon Peter to stand down from attacking the Roman guards, he forgives Peter for denying Christ three times, and Pilate is forgiven for sending Christ to die, along with the multitude, for who Christ asks for their forgiveness. Clearly, Christ is willing the necessity of his own death. We also have the apocraphyl "Gospel of Judas" in which Jesus sees Judas as the most important disciple:
https://www.gospels.net/judas

>>2800469
islam has jesus as a prophet though…

>>2800489
That's why it's better to be an atheist at the end of the day

>>2800470
in a different world, judas would be seen as a based hero of entrepreneurship and hustling



 

turns out larry ellison is a poo sniffer:

>using the java engine in android phones he records a vast amount of the global population's shits. this is a plan he boldly describes as dedicated to peace through security, and his own solemn duty. he states that only an AI watches the recordings to observe for threats and he will supply recordings to the government with a court order.


>some would call this the raving delusion of an irresponsible madman. however for larry this is the latest incarnation of a software product he built in the 90s, one that would take detailed metrics on professional software programming teams, and page him whenever a programmer was about to take a bathroom break. this early success was the cornerstone of a business portfolio worth trillions of dollars.


>besides high tech AI and large scale IT infrastructure projects ellison's empire extends to television and multimedia production. he is one of the united states governments largest tech partners across all branches, and has made significant investments in israeli real estate, it's defense industry, and it's armed forces.


wtf? what other depraved shit are billionaires up to?

>>2799697
the existence of the petit bougeois is not a reason to ignore the excessive crimes of the arch vampire tier true bourgeois ya fuckin dickhead.

>>2799665
what's the link to the account?

>>2799771
this website is entirely about ragebaiting each other with kafka traps and unfalsifiable accusations. haven't you gotten the memo?

>>2799665
>wtf? what other depraved shit are billionaires up to?
anyone else remember the john mcafee antivirus guy being into scat and sex with literal whales? what a funny guy

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>>2799697
>Petite really think they're welcome in the real movement
They always have been as long as they're class traitors, or in the case of national liberation struggle, as part of a temporary coalition with the proletariat.



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Happy birthday to the GOAT, the magnificent Vladimir Ulyanov Lenin!

May his brilliant words and shining example continue to inspire workers across the world to win their liberation and fight back the tyranny of capitalist imperialism
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>>2792323
The British Monarchy was already thoroughly bourgeoisified by the 18th century. Today, most monarchists simply give grumblings about "tourism" as a meagre defense of the institution.

>>2792328
>>2792333
I was being sarcastic jeez

>>2792342
we all take our opportunities to soapbox where we can get them

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>>2790000
>0000
>Nobody checks these Quads
pathetic

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>>2789610
>pic 1
the fur



 

Colombia’s election authority investigating leftist frontrunner
The CNE reportedly agreed to investigate allegations that Cepeda violated regulations regarding campaign contributions ahead of the primary of his political party, Historic Pact, in October last year. The allegations were made by Senator Jote Pe Hernandez of the Green Alliance party and Juan Martin Bravo, a conservative politician from Cali, and four political activists. The opposition politicians and the activists claimed received two donations of a PR company, Samat Publicidad SAS, that together amounted to more than 10% of the total private campaign donations.
https://colombiareports.com/colombias-election-authority-investigating-leftist-frontrunner/

Cuba’s electric and petroleum workers celebrate their colleagues during massive rally
Cuba’s power crisis deepened after the U.S. attacked Venezuela in early January, halting critical oil shipments from the South American country. Later that month, U.S. President Donald Trump threatened tariffs on any country that sells or provides oil to Cuba. As a result, the island spent more than three months without a single oil shipment until a Russian tanker laden with 730,000 barrels docked in Cuba in late March.
https://apnews.com/article/cuba-may-1-power-workers-outages-union-petroleum-9ecb9f1c31357cb0b599869d3c49d31b

Peru's electoral board calls for audit of election results
The final results of ​the first ​round of the elections ‌remain ⁠unclear and the vote count is still incomplete ​with ​97.5% ⁠of the ballots counted. ​No clear presidential ​rival ⁠has emerged to face conservative ⁠frontrunner ​Keiko ​Fujimori.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/perus-electoral-board-calls-audit-election-results-2026-05-02/

Paraguayans March for Labor Rights
The day also saw the active participation of multiple productive sectors. The demonstration was organizePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

May Day: Jews and Arabs march together in Tel Aviv and Nazareth, send message against war and Netanyahu
In Nazareth, thousands of Jews and Arabs marched from Tawfiq Zayad Street to Mary’s Well Square in the city center, where a rally featuring political speeches was held. Many young people stood out among the marchers, shouting slogans against capitalist exploitation, fascism, war, and the occupation, while waving red flags and banners in Arabic and Hebrew. Additionally, three marching bands from the Young Communist League of Israel (YCLI) participated in the procession.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/05/may-day-jews-and-arabs-march-together-in-tel-aviv-and-nazareth-send-message-against-war-and-netanyahu.html

‘Go inside, he will kill you’: Israeli militants step up West Bank school attacks
Education is under attack across occupied Palestine. The situation is most severe in Gaza, where more than 600,000 school-age children are approaching the end of a third year without formal in-person education. Israeli attacks there have killed at least 792 teachers and 18,639 students, according to the UN, and damaged or destroyed nine out of 10 school buildings.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/02/israeli-militants-attack-west-bank-schools-settler-violence

Israeli authorities taking 2 activists from a Gaza-bound flotilla to Israel for questioning
The activists, Spanish-Swedish citizen of Palestinian origin Saif Abukeshek and Brazilian citizen Thiago Ávila, were among dozens of activists intercepted by the Israeli navy off the coast of Crete. They are members of the Global Sumud Flotilla’s steering committee, whose mission was to break Israel’s naval blockade and bring some humanitarian aid to the Palestinian territory.
https://apnews.com/article/gaza-flotilla-israel-spain-d0577268021dc5e8fc00e14f3ae44024

How Iranian monarchists have taPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

4,000+ May Day Demonstrations Across US
Six young protesters with the Sunrise Movement were taken into custody after blocking a bridge in Minneapolis in what they said was an act of “nonviolent noncooperation” to “stand up to the war in Iran and against ICE terrorizing our neighbors and our cities.” Dozens more Sunrise protesters in Portland held a sit-in in the lobby of a Hilton hotel that was housing top officials with the Department of Homeland Security, leading to eight arrests.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/may-day-2026

Political blame game begins and passengers left adrift after Spirit ceases operations
There were no more Spirit planes in the air, with their distinctive bright yellow paint, after the last flight landed in Dallas, Texas, after midnight and Spirit’s management announced it was the end, after talks for a government rescue failed. The Spirit president and CEO, Dave Davis, told the Wall Street Journal that it had not been his intention for the airline to leave travelers with bookings out on a limb.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/may/02/spirit-airlines-ceases-operations-blame

Confusion emerges over new South Dakota voter ID requirements
Amy Scott-Stoltz, president of the League of Women Voters of South Dakota, a nonpartisan advocacy group, said that county auditors in charge of voter registration are having difficulty ensuring a uniform system across the state. “They’re trying to follow the secretary of state’s guidelines, but the vagueness has led to certain issues,” Scott-Stoltz told News Watch. “Do they need to present this stuff in person? Can they accept it by mail? Different auditors interpret that differently.”
https://apnews.com/article/south-dakota-new-voter-id-requirements-confusion-0ab157e7476939af28565602d2393038

‘Sweeping and Dangerous’: US Appeals Court Blocks Mailing of Abortion Pills
Rights advocates swiftly sounded the alarm on Friday after the infamously far-rightPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

140 years since the Haymarket affair in Chicago: The struggle for the eight-hour day
This year marks 140 years since the Haymarket Affair, a pivotal episode in the struggle for the eight-hour working day and the development of the modern labor movement. In the late 19th century, industrial workers in the United States typically worked 12 to 14 hours a day under demanding and often dangerous conditions. The demand for an eight-hour day gradually became a central objective of organized labor. In the weeks leading up to the nationwide strike of May 1, 1886, major newspapers warned that such a reform would bring wage cuts, poverty and social disorder, frequently describing the movement as “un-American” and driven by foreign agitators. Despite this pressure, participation in the strike was substantial. On May 1, around 340,000 workers took part in strikes and demonstrations across the country. Chicago was at the center of events, with more than 80,000 workers marching in what was one of the largest labor mobilizations of the time.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/05/140-years-since-haymarket-affair-in-chicago-struggle-for-the-eight-hour-day.html

On May 1, Let Us Go To the May Day Squares in Turkey and Northern Kurdistan! — MLKP
It is banned for the working people to celebrate May 1 in the square they deem most suitable in the cities. It is prohibited for the workers to gather in Istanbul at Kazancı Hill to commemorate the martyrs of May 1, 1977. General strikes and solidarity strikes are forbidden for the workers. It is also forbidden for them to set up protest tents in front of factories or workplaces. Workers are forbidden from preventing the bosses from transporting goods out of striking or protesting workplaces. Strikes against workplace accidents, solidarity strikes, or general strikes are also banned. Taksim Square is closed for March 8, November 25, and Newroz for women and Kurds. Students are banned from resistance and boycotts. Mothers who have lost their children are denied access to the Saturday Mothers’ square.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/32124/

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There is going to be a brake in news posting starting Monday and ending the 12th



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Eurocentrism is the dominant ideology of capitalist society, which also exists within the "left-wing" movement. It has certain specific characteristics:

  1. Left Eurocentrism builds upon the bourgeois unilinear theory of "social progress," with Europe serving as the highest peak and the universal reference point of world history.
  2. Left Eurocentrism uses a false version of historical materialism to present early capitalism as a progressive social order on a global scale, while in reality, it was only progressive in relation to the feudal system in the major European states.
  3. Left Eurocentrism underestimates the role of colonialism, the slave trade, etc., as the foundation for the historical origins and ongoing accumulation of the capitalist mode of production.
  4. Left Eurocentrism schematizes world history based on the European experience and forces everything into this mold—for example, the expectation that all societies must go through a succession of the same modes of production (slave-owning, feudal) as Europe, or else they are considered "backward."
  5. Left Eurocentrism assumes that advanced productive forces necessarily lead to advanced struggles; it underestimates the peasantry; it conceives of revolution primarily as the dividing of the national pie between the proletariat and the bourgeois class in the major capitalist countries.
  6. In its approach to international relations, Left Eurocentrism elevates inter-imperialist contradictions above the fundamental contradiction between oppressor and oppressed nations, and it considers relations between great powers to be the main events in world politics.
  7. Left Eurocentrism fails to see the continuous nature of super-exploitation and the unequal international division of labor as the basis of imperialism, and it attempts to explain dynamics without giving any place to the relations between imperialist and dependent countries.
  8. Left Eurocentrism does not recognize the extent to which the main contradictions of the capitalist mode of production are embodied in the contradictions between oppressor and oppressed nations, and therefore considers nationalism in colonial countries to be backward and a hindrance.
  9. Left Eurocentrism generally considers national liberation movements to be subordinate to the supposed interests of the proletarian movement in the "advanced" countries, and d
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>>2800309
Why are the fuck are you even on leftypol if you believe that

>>2800310
Easier (you)s

>>2800305
>campist
Trot neocons screeching empty words, but we have the receipts of what you NATO camp follower boot-polishers did in Libya and Syria and Ukraine and Iran etc etc etc. The antifa left will never escape their reputation for being servants of the Jeffrey Epstein class. Leftists define their entire personality around seething at "Assadists" who resist their CIA operations to build Greater Israel
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/cia-ramping-up-covert-training-program-for-moderate-syrian-rebels/
>All of this is just another excuse
You didn't read any of OP's post did you? Zionist liberals are so arrogant they will never read a single word written by their global slaves, but they're baffled that no one wants to read their latest anti-Iran, anti-Russia, anti-China Trot neocon zines on Marxists.org or WSWS
>anyone who wants to revolt against them is actually a racist imperialist/CIA asset
<no denial, just the assumption that theoretically there must exists at least one antifa Trot who isn't a globalist cuck
"Venezuela is Hamas"…"Iran needs to be bombed for peace" - actually existing anti-fascists who fight despot regimes

>>2800332
And you'll never escape your reputation for simping for some of the worst despots on earth

>>2800309
Based and true



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My family didn't starve in the 80s only due to kolkhoz markets. It was simply impossible to buy something in state groceries. The peasantry, the petit bourgeoisie (aka big proletarians) saved tens of millions of lives of the soviet people while the party bureaucracy tried to murder them. So why should I hate the first ones and like the second ones and their descendants (Cucktin and his party)?
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>>2799907
* Ignore the second paragraph, which is incompletely repeated, and skip to the third, which is complete.

>>2798259
>No, dude, Russian government is the one who likes soviet era
No, they like the aesthetics and the cultural memory of strength and national greatness. They absolutely despise its actual policies and what it stood for. If that hadn't been the case then they wouldn't have destroyed it.

>>2799779
>No one could change their mind after twenty five fucking years
lmao, "change mind"

Uygha, Putin is the biggest ideology shopper there is, not because he changes his mind a lot, but because he is an opportunist.

He has record of saying that he's a liberal, a nationalist and a socialist.

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>>2800115
>he's a liberal, a nationalist and a socialist.

>>2798259
>There used to be a period of hate under Yeltsin, but it's gone
Yeah, he was unpopular for a reason



 

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>>2799000
It's less work to bring up a quote than explain it in your own words. I do agree that a lot of Marxists don't think for themselves much though
>>2798993
They do though. I don't know about your HS education but Newton was quoted in my textbook

>>2799000
>polisci
as opposed to economics, which is much more foundational and common of a major.
>Marx is required reading
in poisci you will at best get a (liberal slanted) political reading of marx, and not get much economic content at all
> His teachings are not being hidden from the public people just don't want to read
ok?
>you have to be able to explain things with your own words using modern language and modern examples and not rely on Marx to do all the heavy lifting for you.
I literally do this all the time, it's not that hard. And when I do it I get called a Marxist dogmatist by people like you because people like you accuse anyone who says the working class is being exploited of being a Marxist dogmatist, whether they actually are or not. That's why there's no winning this argument.

>>2799000
replied in the new thread

Platnerchads, we can't stop winning.



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This isn't a joke or anything
Cuba is gonna be invaded by the US by next month, and I don't have much hope in the Cuban armed forces alone.

Either an armed resistance needs to be established in the United States or international voluteers need to be formed for Cuba, either by the Cuban goverment or some communist org (PSL, RCI, etc).
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>second of all Cuba unlike Venezuela isn’t ran by Pussies so they are not gonna give into Madman theory

>>2791577
this. A program that has no purpose must be deleted.

so with cuba and chavismo out of picture, who are latam elites going to blame whenever the subjects get uppity?

>>2792010
Retard

>>2799813
Well I don’t think that the politicians will give up but the People might not wanna be deprived of electricity anymore, but if the US starts bombing civilians then they will turn back to the Government.



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why are there so many fascists on leftypol now
the fascists are poisoning this board
this board was much better in the past
how can this be defeated
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>>2798352
Getting no pussy and having no money brings you here.

>>2799679
This website is a bunch of middle class sex-having normies calling each other broke incels and larping as such. Leftypol is the most fakecel community in the world

>>2799696
Realcel gets brutally framemogged by middleclasspilled fakecels leftypolmaxxers.

Because supporting Iran is progresaive or something, now we have to endure islamo-fascists because "muh multipoltard*

>>2799740
>not mentioning the russophiles
I see you ivan



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