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The debate over whether AI is “ethical” is mired in petit-bourgeois moralism. Technology itself doesn’t create suffering — capitalism does. The real question isn’t whether AI should exist, but how it can be used for human benefit instead of private profit.

The outrage toward AI is highly selective. People claim it “steals,” as if corporations haven’t been extracting labour, culture, and data for decades. They claim AI is destroying the environment — meanwhile, online video streaming accounts for the majority of global internet traffic and emits far more CO₂ than AI use does today. According to The Shift Project, an hour of streaming produces roughly 55 g of CO₂, and a typical Netflix user emits around 17 kg of CO₂ every month. Pornography alone occupies a huge portion of global bandwidth. Yet no one demands the abolition of streaming; our habits and pleasures are completely normalised.

Before attacking AI, remember that streaming culture is part of the spectacle of late capitalism: endless passive entertainment that keeps people distracted while the system churns on. People fixate on AI because it is new and unfamiliar — not because it is the true driver of ecological or social harm.

What is never discussed is the role AI could play outside capitalism. Under a rationally organised, democratically planned socialist economy, AI could become an instrument of genuine human emancipation. AI could eliminate monotonous labour, optimise resource allocation, reduce systemic waste, plan production in real time, expand access to education and culture, and coordinate complex systems on a scale no bureaucracy could ever achieve. Instead of reinforcing exploitation, AI could free people from it — shortening the working day, expanding leisure, and allowing individuals to participate meaningfully in cultural and intellectual life.

In other words: AI is not inherently exploitative. It simply reflects the system into which it is born. Under capitalism, it becomes another tool for profit extraction. Under socialism, it becomes a tool for human development. The question is not whether AI should be used, but who controls it — capital or society.
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>>2593000
>Under a rationally organised, democratically planned socialist economy

Nothing democratically planned will be rational. Speaking of pipe dreams, the old time Marxists used to go on about how communism is all about humans controlling the things made by their own hands, instead of the other way around. At some point people realized that was bullshit and demanded supercomputer AI Gods to do it for us. Enlightenment disproved by its own fruits.

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>AI Will Be Used to Build Socialism
Well everything will eventually be used to build socialism as technology is agnostic wrt politics. But AI will first and foremost be used in the cold war, and if socialism doesn't win out, you'd probably want to blame AI. Either way, I think it's going to get way worse before it gets any better.


First, AI will be a vehicle for consolidation: Once the bubble bursts and 99% of the chaff uses get weeded out, the result will be that the remaining companies, will have achieved monopolies on the production and use of computing hardware and merged with the state.

Second, AI tech is seen as a proxy for silicon tech as a whole: It will continue to play a humongous role in the cold war, akin to aerospace/nautics in the previous cold war, but through the facade of retarded magic content black boxes, while eating huge subsidies and driving resource wars.

And third, AI tech has wild governance implications: Not just for the panopticon of the surveillance state, which will only continue to expand as it is part of the cold war everything-race.
But the previous consolidation and public-private partnership of silicon tech means corporations getting a greater capture of state mechanisms themselves. The Ukrainian model as depicted, where "Digital transformation" means to let tech corporations(often foreign) run the bureaucracy is also going to keep expanding under the guise of convenience.

The thing that corporations do now where they are never responsible of anything because they can claim a Schrodinger's "automated system" did it? Yeah, that's going straight in.
"Predictive" policing? you got it.
24/7 employee surveillance? damn right.
Corporate run judiciaries? Well not really, they just run every part of the bureaucracy and have capture on every institution! totally legal!
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CyberSyn 2.0 baybay

>>2594926
>First, AI will be a vehicle for consolidation: Once the bubble bursts and 99% of the chaff uses get weeded out, the result will be that the remaining companies, will have achieved monopolies on the production and use of computing hardware and merged with the state.
Finally someone who understands how these bubbles work.

>>2593146
Lmao at this.


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I am a LibSoc so i don’t particularly care for marxism leninism but i do respect certain marxists like che and ho chi minh, but i just don’t really understand why people like kim. I know that a lot of the stuff about him isn’t true, but he still doesn’t seem like the greatest guy, but maybe that’s just the CIA propaganda.
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>>2633725
Welcome.
Leftism is not for revolution it is for reformism. Leftism means the left wing of capital, it comes from the french bourgeois parliament. Any kind of revolution (left or right) is a bourgeois revolution.

Communism is the real movement against the present state of things.

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>>2633725
>draw people away from the revolution.
>people
People are BAD, workers are GOOD, workers are the revolutionary subject, people or "masses" are garbage. "People" is what we say when class is abolished or call those who have class consciousness and want to end class society, whereas the "masses" of "people" are lumpen reactionary and purposefully vaguely play into populism, mob mentality, and class collaboration. By addressing "people" that implies appealing to the reactionaries, bourgeois, petite bourgeois and the workers as if they are all the same when they are not. The real movement trademarked does not cater to "people" it caters entirely towards the revolutionary subject of the working class (proletariat) as long as it is the revolutionary subject.

You do not want to address filthy "people" unless you are calling for a broad statement such as opposing reactionism. In which case you must consider reactionaries to not be people at all and dehumanize them, which is entirely principled. But you must consider how wicked the word "people" can be before even beginning to address it.

>>2624230
>i do respect certain marxists like che and ho chi minh, but i just don’t really understand why people like kim. I know that a lot of the stuff about him isn’t true
theres really not much space between che ho chi minh and stalin/mao/kim

>>2633736
>>2633756
Your writing blows. Advice: proof-read before posting.

>>2624230
>but i just don’t really understand why people like kim
Hes perceived as a strong leader I suppose.


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The American leftist community failed to make meaningful changes on a local and national level over because it prioritized visibility over internal organization and protection. Most of its efforts have centered more around activism, protests, and campaign movements rather than fundraisers, mutual aid (this actually was done, but to a very limited degree), community protection services (only the black American has had any success in organizing armed defence for marginalized communities so far and even that’s limited to black Americans), and facilities for allied groups beyond gay bars and clubs which are often out of reach for most Americans.
The latter decisions that weren’t made are far from impossible to pull off. With a fraction of the money much of the American leftist community has, most reactionary communities have maintained such institutions and services for decades to centuries depending on which community you look into. It would objectively be far more practical regardless to focus more on internal organization and building structure to this community of people rather than shifting attention consistently to the media and national audience where efforts are diluted in coordination and often reliant on demonstrations of moral upstanding and humanistic virtue rather than concrete action. It wouldn’t be any harder to pull off than any new protest or movement, and it wouldn’t cost much to anyone especially if money is pulled.

So why didnt these actions occur?
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>>2630692
Good points about everything, though I think youre placing a little too much emphasis on skills mate. The community doesnt need competence as much as it needs cooperation and actual planning.

>>2630761
>The community doesnt need competence as much as it needs cooperation and actual planning.
These are skills too. Indeed, competence is a very powerful social tool. If a group appears like it's floundering around, wasting resources and generally being a group where the blind leads the blind, the wider "community" will likely not want to have much to do with it despite good intentions. People want to follow the competent when the going gets rough. Still, you are right to point out that competence is not nessecarily in short supply within a population however we should keep in mind how small the intersection between the technically/organizationally skilled and the politically reliable is.

Of course, it will grow over time, but starting from scratch in the state we find ourselves in nessecitates that we flounder around as little as we can. If we are inheritors of the world revolution and seek to decouple ourselves from the clutches of the state, we must be competent.

>>2631251
Eh fair

i think i love communists and anarchists more than i love the proletariat

huh

>>2630661
I think the deeper reason that this happens is that almost no one has a real step by step plan to get to proletarian dictatorship (if they even believe in that). They have a voluntarist conception of struggle, where they just need to convince enough people to support their ideas and then that will spontaneously transform into the capacity to successfully revolt and then rule. Since the goal is convincing people, marketing is the strategy. So visibility is what's prioritized.


What the real plan is: build dual power that challenges the capitalists' governance over the people. Offer them material aid that the government doesn't, offer them protection from the government goons as well as criminals and intervening in and adjudicating civil disputes. Eventually when there is enough community support to do so with impunity, businesses can be taxed, territory can be contested from the state, and at the point that territory can be held from the state immediately there's the ability to do landlord expropriations, set up unions in every large workplace, start SEOs to compete with capitalist business, and so on. The leninists/trots have no clue what revolution entails, they think that it goes: build up party numbers and media subscriptions -> working class spontaneously revolts -> somehow lead the revolts with your popularity -> win. The real way that historical revolutions show us is the building of dual power. Part of that is media but it's only a part. We have to contest ruling class media, ruling class welfare/aid, ruling class arbitration, ruling class security, ruling class law, ruling class taxation, and so on until we are the state of the proletariat and we clash with the state of the bourgeoisie and our superior organization and territorial support carries us to victory.


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How was he so based, and why have few socialist leaders even come close to accomplishing what he did? I love 90% of what the guy did, and I really do think that he's greatly underappreciated as both a theoretician and a leader.
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>>2621664
it was the empty parts wasnt it?

What did he mean by this?

>>2621987
soviets by that point were a dickrider occupied goverment anyways

Robespierre if he didn't know how to read and was even more autistic

>>2633680
sounds kinda based


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US demands Venezuela halt all economic ties with China, Russia, Iran and Cuba
ABC News reported on Tuesday that Washington had sent a demand to Venezuela’s acting President Delcy Rodriguez for her government to “kick out China, Russia, Iran, and Cuba and sever economic ties” with those nations. The report also said the White House was demanding that Caracas agree to “exclusive co-operation with the US in the field of oil production.” But Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Mao Ning told reporters: “Venezuela is a sovereign state, possessing full and inalienable sovereignty over its natural resources.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/us-demands-venezuela-halt-all-economic-ties-china-russia-iran-and-cuba

Mexico becomes crucial fuel supplier to Cuba but pledges no extra shipments after Maduro toppled
Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum acknowledged on Wednesday that “with the current situation in Venezuela, Mexico has become an important supplier” of crude oil to Cuba, but asserted that “no more oil is being sent than has been sent historically; there is no specific shipment.” She added that those shipments are made via “contracts” or as “humanitarian aid,” but offered no concrete figures on the number of barrels exported.
https://apnews.com/article/mexico-cuba-petroleum-oil-shipments-trump-venezuela-7ec85826c98f23226c2534954b2c2b6f

Burkina Faso authorities say new coup plot foiled, arrests underway
Speaking in a televised address, Burkina Faso’s Minister of Security, Mahamadou Sana, said the plan involved a coordinated effort to destabilise the country through a series of targeted assassinations. He stated that the plot was scheduled to begin at around 11 p.m. and would have targeted both civilian and military leaders. According to Sana, the alleged plan included attempts to neutralise the head of state, Captain Ibrahim Traoré, either at close range or through an operation aimed at mining his residence. “A plan was in place to destabilise the country through targeted assassinations,” the minister said.
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China's response? A strongly worded message?

US will control Venezuela oil sales 'indefinitely', official says
While White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said the two sides had struck a deal, Venezuela's state-run oil company PDVSA said in a statement that negotiations over oil sales were ongoing within the framework that exists between the two countries. "This process is based on similar rules to those in force with international companies," it said.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgn7p7g79wo

Trump proposes massive increase in 2027 defense spending to $1.5T, citing ‘dangerous times’
The 2026 military budget is set at $901 billion. Trump in recent days has also called for taking over the Danish territory of Greenland for national security reasons and has suggested he’s open to carrying out military operations in Colombia. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has ominously warned that longtime adversary Cuba “is in trouble.”
https://apnews.com/article/trump-defense-spending-3bbea1ccc679ee8a388386d60e651fd7

What we know so far about the fatal ICE shooting of a Minneapolis woman
The footage shows multiple officers near an SUV stopped in the middle of the road. One officer demands the driver exit the vehicle and grabs the car handle. The SUV reverses, then begins to drive forward, which is when a different officer near the front of the car pulls his weapon and fires into the vehicle. Three gunshots are heard, as the firing officer backs away from the SUV. Moments later, the vehicle crashes.
https://www.npr.org/2026/01/07/nx-s1-5670289/ice-minneapolis-shooting-immigration-crackdown

Inside the Senate's last-gasp effort to solve the health care crisis
The bipartisan plan would reinstate the ACA enhanced subsides for two years and extend open enrollment into March, Moreno said, walking through policies that he says have "decent consensus." It will likely include income caps at 700% of the poverty line, replace $0 premium plans with $5 premiums and allow individuals to choose whethePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Venezuela – Class struggle against imperialism and the myth of national independence
The attacks of the US army in Venezuela are an expression of imperialism, but how can we respond to them? Understandably, the reaction of many people is to rally for ‘national independence’. From a working class perspective and the perspective of international emancipation, the battle cry for ‘sovereignty’ is a dangerous myth. The situation in Venezuela is part of a global panorama of block confrontation and as international workers we have to find ways not to get crushed in the middle.
https://www.angryworkers.org/2026/01/04/venezuela-class-struggle-against-imperialism-and-the-myth-of-national-independence/

Iran: An Uprising Besieged from Within and Without
Starting on December 28, 2025, a new wave of protest broke out across Iran, triggered by economic distress and escalating to call for the toppling of the government. This is at least the fifth such movement in a decade, drawing on previous waves of labor unrest and feminist resistance. Yet within this uprising, the grassroots movement contends with reactionary monarchists, largely based outside Iran, who seek to win the backing of the United States and Israel to seize power. This comes in the midst of a tumultuous geopolitical situation. The Israeli government has intensified the bombing of Gaza and Lebanon and the seizure of land in Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria; it is preparing to construct a settlement that will cut the West Bank in half in order to make a Palestinian state impossible. The United States has just kidnapped the president of Venezuela and his wife in order to seize Venezuelan oil, signaling a readiness to go to great lengths to dominate people both inside and outside its borders. In the fall of 2024, protesters in Nepal and elsewhere demonstrated that it is still possible for social movements to overthrow governments. A successful revolution in Iran could set off a wave of change around the world. But if such a revolution were hijacked by reactionary forces, it could set movements for liberation back another generation or more. The stakes are high. We owe it to grassroots movements in Iran to learn about them and support them, both because they are confrontPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Ahegao Trump Edition

>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

📺 Glowie News 📺
(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))
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>replacing it
hahhhahaha the USA left everybody

I know it wasn't cops this time, but Minneapolis related.

>>2633045
It's not racism, it's foreign policy.

>>2633012
I love telling anti-communist diaspora members their family didn't escape shit and we're everywhere and inevitable

>2 major events happen in like 3 days
>instead of discussing it coming up with a strategy
>more of this amerikkkans must die
>you benefit from invasion of Venezuela, (lies)
>you benedit from ice shootings (lies)

Glowintellpro


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These fags want to remove the age of consent laws and normalize pedophilia
They think Trump will do that by making people ignore his involvement in child abuse
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The guy who censored the URL in the video also sent the original to the FBI. So i wonder if it will show up in the Epstein files in the future.


https://dreadytofatroptsdj6io7l3xptbet6onoyno2yv7jicoxknyazubrad.onion/post/a595bff7323258f181bb

>>2435183
There's nothing in the posts on the forum indicating a conspiracy except a few seeking trafficked children for corporate events. It's just a typical pedo forum with typical pedophiles. They're just discussing news and how it relates to their pedophilia and desire to normalize it.
Awful of course, but you're making it out to be bigger than it is.

>>2631430
Thank you! I also found the link to directly view the files: justice.gov/epstein

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>>2631612
>There's nothing in the posts on the forum indicating a conspiracy except a few seeking trafficked children for corporate events. It's just a typical pedo forum with typical pedophiles. They're just discussing news and how it relates to their pedophilia and desire to normalize it.
>Awful of course, but you're making it out to be bigger than it is.

Is that sort of stuff on typical pedo forums? I have no idea how big this group actually is, but it seems like theres some level of organization going on with them. It's invite only. There were threads talking about what churches were "safe".

The "Little Saint James" subforum was the name of island that Epstein owned:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Saint_James

The name of the subforum could be a pedo in-joke, since there were other darknet forums named epstein island. However the last post in the subforum was about the blackmail photos Jeffrey Epstein took of celebrities. There also was a user in a different subforum selling epstein memorabilia.

>>2630074
>https://archive.ph/https://magrathea.endchan.net/b/thread/57780.html
Also the girl who originally leaked it said this:

>my dad is a rapist and pedofile in the dark web please help me

>I have video of the website. my dad is a sicko and he and his fuck rapist billionaire rich fends rape kids for fun and joke about them

>please help me close down this playground website

>I havs tried to capture most detail of what hes doing. watch my screen capture videos and please help me to shut down this website hes using.
Though maybe that was just what she thought was going on. We don't know if she assumed they were billionaires or if she knew for sure.


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https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/CFSv2/CFSv2_body.html
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/CFSv2/imagesInd3/npsSIChMonL8.gif

NOAA predicts a near ice sheet-free Arctic by this September. A Blue Ocean Event (BOE). This is important cause it agravates the feedback loops that make the Arctic warm even faster than the rest of the world. The dark blue ocean reflects less energy that white ice. It also opens the Artic ocean for easier navigation. Is this why the Heritage Foundation has so much interest in Greenland?

Good, the northern passage is finally real

is this good :D

>>2633061
I've said it before but current AmeriKKKan foreign policy really is just a bunch of piggers panic hoarding as much land and resources as they can before climate change inevitable causes human civilization to collapse.

>>2633098
Looking at it, the annexation of Greenland and especially Canada is inevitable. US is definitely planning to have extra land and navigation in the Artic and Canada is a free country to take

>>2633061
War in the arctic sooner or later.


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Classes
'Haute bourgeoisie' – Big bourgeoisie
'Petty bourgeoisie' – Petty bourgeoisie (Small bourgeoisie)
'Middle class' – Middle class
'Proletariat' – Working class
'Lumpenproletariat' – Lumpenproletariat

The labor aristocracy is a stratum positioned between the middle class and the petty bourgeoisie. Students (as a stratum) are predominantly found among the proletariat and the middle class.

Theses on the Development of the Party

Class Struggle
Individual members of a class recognize their immediate material interest.
Through this immediate material interest, they recognize certain shared characteristics of the class.
Consciousness of oneself as a member of a class. Class organization. Class movement.
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>>2631254
since a lot of aristocrats in the 1800s were already (relatively) impoverished compared to the haute bourgeoisie it is arguable that the petty bourgeoisie was already the middle class back then and if I recall they are sometimes called such even back then.

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>>2631247
Socialism with American characteristics

>>2631173
Voluntarism

>>2631173
OP is an opportunist

>>2632520
Where is the opportunism?


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lets hear some of your most frustrating work related social media experiences. this shit sucks, every person who seriously uses this shit is mentally unwell or you have to deal with fucking AI/automated shit that just straight up doesn't work.

>>2621715
just get a high paying office job with connections bro it's not that hard

up

>>2621776
Do you have to do sex things to get that?

>>2625267
Probably


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