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Why do people here (especially mods) hate open dialogue on the subject of Israel? It's like having a nuanced view of the Palestine question instantly makes you a genocide supporting philosemite.

I understand that Palestinians have legitimate grievances like land expropriation and a weird internal passport system. These things should stop, along with many other injustices and blatant abuses of state power.

We should, at the same time, acknowledge that Hamas and the IDF are both guilty of atrocities. The IDF often resorts to indiscriminate bombings when they are not warranted. Hamas often compounds casualties by hiding in schools and hospitals, knowing this will be an optics loss for Israel.

This is a complex subject, but for some fucking reason we can no longer have an intelligent discussion about it.(SCHIZO WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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I'm probably one of the few philosemitic anti-Zionists. I love the Hebrew language, Kabbalah, Jewish intellectuals, etc.

I just don't think they have the right to colonize Palestine.

>>2321517
Spinoza was based (and got excommunicated by his people)

The post brings up a good point.

I just wish OP didn't purposely try to make it look more provocative to get more views, cause that makes it look like bait until you actually read it.

>>2321517
I know a bunch of Jews and they all are anti-Zionism and anti-Israel. it doesn't seem that niche

>>2321517
I love Slavic culture
I'm neutral on the Russian-Ukraine war.


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new thread >>2320973

>>2320969
only one way to find out

>>2320802
I'd meet someone, it's not like I have anything better to do

>>2320748
only s1 was good

>>2321077
ONE WAY OUT


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almost 72 years ago, these two were executed for passing american atomic secrets to the USSR.

Were they innocent? and if not, were they heroes of socialism? Or just victims of anti semitism
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@grok is this true

>>2320673
kill the boer

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They were innocent because they did it and it was the right thing to do

>>2320706
based

>>2320653
There’s clear evidence to state that they had contact with KGB agents, but it’s clear their role was overplayed.
Not that it would matter to cunts like Roy Cohn and other McCarthyites.

>The controversy over their guilt was seemingly resolved in the early 1990s after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the release of Soviet intelligence information that confirmed Julius Rosenberg’s involvement in espionage. In 2015 an independent lawsuit secured the release of grand jury testimony in 1950 by Greenglass, which indicated that he might have lied at trial by exaggerating his sister’s role in the espionage ring in order to obscure the more extensive involvement of his wife Ruth, who was not prosecuted.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Julius-Rosenberg-and-Ethel-Rosenberg


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I can’t be the only one suffering from an extreme amount of ShitLib fatigue right now.

I’m at my last end with these people. Imagine taking part in militant mass protests only to insist the solution is to vote Democrat and throw emotional blackmail on anyone who doesn’t. Just like how liberals showed up to the George Floyd uprising five years ago with voter registration forms, liberals are already showing up at the LA uprising protests to convince people to vote for Democrats in the midterm elections last year. How much longer before libs start showing up with Ukrainian flags and attempt to make the protests about keeping the US in NATO or whatever? They’re also already blaming “white anarchists” for the more militant actions despite footage showing the vast majority of people defending themselves from the pigs are Mexicans and Central Americans themselves.

Do liberals honestly believe this brutality wouldn’t have happened under Harris? Biden and Harris sent goons to brutalize anti-genocide protesters all last year. I fucking hate this.

Anyone else feel the same?
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>>2316240
kill yourself

>>2316240
>persxn
no one says this
>but I once saw a-
no one says this
>>2318180
this place is filled with people who need to show how anti-idpol they are so they'll attack the most /pol/ framing of it
though that's a good one because I don't think any rightoid knows or cares about the autism registry thing, and usually they say "I'm a queer transfat black native american", just fill in any minority they don't like

>>2312221
Kristi Noem is built for the gravel pit
>>2312017
not in 2020
and the All Lives Matters people just cheat and steal and the dems let them

>>2311193
trvke probably to be honest
We gotta accept that it's the MAGA satanists and friends that brought up Stephen Miller and other child molesters. But also that Tom Homan was appointed under Obama and that Harris adopted a right wing framing on immigration, dems set up what the GOP eventually uses against us.

>>2318453
>99% of news addicts quit before seeing the headline they've been hoping for.
lmao


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What's happening now
• Iran retaliation underway: Iran has launched more than 100 drones toward Israeli territory, Israel’s military said. The attack comes after Israel launched unprecedented strikes on Iran, targeting its nuclear program and senior military leaders in an attack that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said will last many days. The attack plunges the Middle East into fresh uncertainty, increasing the risk of a regional war.

• Military leaders killed: General Hossein Salami, the commander-in-chief of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard, was killed in the attack. He was among the country’s most powerful figures. The attack also killed Major General Mohammad Bagheri, Iran’s highest-ranking military officer.

• Nuclear targets: Netanyahu said “Operation Rising Lion” struck Iran’s main enrichment facility in Natanz, nuclear scientists, and what he called “the heart of Iran’s ballistic missiles program.”

• US position: Secretary of State Marco Rubio said there was no US involvement or assistance in the strikes. President Donald Trump was convening a Cabinet-level meeting as Israel attacked, a White House official and two sources told CNN. The meeting was expected to focus on the US response.
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Watch Khameni use real bullets on protesters and rubber rounds on Israeli ground troops

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Iran claims to have shot down F35, and this is a video of Israeli pilot parachuting down

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Apparently Iran is disabling Israeli patriots

New thread

https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2319014.html

New thread

https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2319014.html

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>0 footage from NAYAFORIRAQ
>I expect nothing from lpol and still get disappointed.
You guys…
One of the videos is the results of the attack.


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Israel attacks Iran: Israel has launched unprecedented strikes on Iran, targeting its nuclear program and military leaders in an attack that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said will last many days. Israel’s military said it used 200 fighter jets, and in retaliation, Iran launched over 100 drones toward Israeli territory.

• Trump warns Iran: President Donald Trump told CNN that the US “of course” supports Israel in its actions. Trump warned Iran earlier today to agree to a nuclear deal “before there is nothing left,” suggesting Israel’s next attacks on the country could be “even more brutal.”

• Military leaders killed: Gen. Hossein Salami, the commander-in-chief of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard and one of the country’s most powerful figures, was killed in the attack. Maj. Gen. Mohammad Bagheri, Iran’s highest-ranking military officer, was also killed. Iran’s foreign minister warned that Israel will “deeply regret” its attack, urging the UN Security Council to hold an urgent meeting.

• Nuclear targets: Netanyahu said “Operation Rising Lion” struck Iran’s main enrichment facility in Natanz, nuclear scientists, and what he called “the heart of Iran’s ballistic missiles program.”

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-12-25-hnk-intl
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>>2319271
PPW in Swaziland when????

If you’re Israeli how is this rational? They can’t even get the job done in Gaza but insist on opening three other fronts, I get that they think Iran is the source of all their problems but what happens when they do regime change but everyone still hates them? Do they just keep expanding and try to bunt every muslim on earth?

NEW THREAD

https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2319773.html

NEW THREAD

https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2319773.html

>>2319768
i love the real movement

>>2319685
I apology for having thoughts of doubts. Khamenei-sama, I kneel.


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We need anti-war protests today. The ability of the regime to prosecute imperialist war depends on the willingness of the public to go along with it. We need mass resistance to make the continuation of the war against Iran extremely difficult for the regime. Their needs to be protests today in order to put strong political pressure.
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>>2318392
Do these protests ever really accomplish anything
Don’t mean to doomer post but just feels like the left is so disorganized and weak in America that these protests from anti-Iraq war to Occupy Wall Street to Dakota Access to BLM to climate crisis to anti-ICE never results in anything meaningful

Remember when activism stopped the Iraq war? I memeber….

>>2318392
So go organise around that instead of telling us to.

>>2318405
>Do these protests ever really accomplish anything

They say anti-vietnam stuff had some effect, no? I read once that Nixon wanted to nuke iran but was afraid of getting domed at the picnic by a homegrown maoist if he did.

>>2318405
they helped end the Vietnam war


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Another emergency inter-imperialist war general edish

Reminder that the setting Iraqi cabinet is backed by the Axis of Resistance (alongside the US) and it allowed the Israeli strikes against Iranian workers to be launched from its airspace. Average Islamist fail.

Live New feeds (idk)
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/6/13/live-explosions-reported-in-iran-amid-israel-tensions

Long live world revolution
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>>2319049
Not entirely.

The Axis' role isn't passive. It's in direct support for imperialism (capitalism). Mass slaughtering protesters and striking workers in Iran, Iraq and Lebanon. Protests and strikes that are in the case of Iraq and Lebanon against western-backed regimes and in the case of Iran against western investments and privatisation mind you.

>>2317380
this. notice how all the know-it-all defenders of 'strategic restraint' disappear when the world pushes their ideological shit in?

>>2317380
Even accounting for sanctions, Iran is genuinely just very badly run and most of the bandwidth of their government has to be spent on domestic self-preservation of the regime: surveillance, moral crackdowns, and brutal reprisals against their own people to try to prevent a repeat breakthrough of riots and popular revolt that already exploded through to the surface. On top of that they're just kind of corrupt weirdos of extremely varying competence anyway, as it goes with hardcore theocratic fundamentalists anywhere on earth.

Even if you had a 100% guarantee that the U.S. wouldn't get involved militarily, the Iranian government is completely aware they can't engage in non-token reprisal against Israel. Israel knew that too and went about doing very Israel shit. And they seem very confident they can just keep doing Israel shit and keep bodying Iran and pulling off leadership decapitation strikes anywhere they want, Tehran included, and that's just the new geopolitical reality going on down there.

>>2317463

You're a retard when Silicon Valley engineers and middle management pay like 40% of their salaries into rent, while Hangzhou engineers have their rent almost fully subsidized by a combination of local gov incentives, state rent support, and artificially depressed prices, and to retain elite talent, they're paid better than SV, once value of money is considered.

>>2319427

Something got brought up, interestingly enough. Russia is out of bandwidth, China isn't ready (or possibly even willing) to go bomb American semiconductor chains, but North Korea is free and has Juche supersoldiers (lol) ready to die for Iran. I.e, if NK does a nuclear transfer and puts Iran under their nuclear umbrella, then…


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>>2315229
the real election which is the dem primary is june 24

>>2316027
>this charge has been leveled at each new generation of young people.
No it isn't. The ancient charge has always young people disrespecting authority and rebelling, not "being more sensitive." That is new.

>>2315996
I mean at a deeper level it all depends on the organic composition of capital (basically how little manual labor is involved). It's the town-countryside contradiction. It has nothing to do with how much value is produced but with what kind of value is produced. Agriculture < Industry < Tech < Finance. Israel just so happened to get ahead on the tech game. It's not Israel per se which controls America but the Silicon Wadi. It's the same way that Silicon Valley is colonizing America today. Israel also has a large venture capital sector. I don't really know the details but you get the point. These kinds of industries suck up all the wealth in part because they're easy to invest in. For similar reasons, America de-industrialized.

>>2315202
Not fully. Kamala is a boomer too

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>>2315381
what the faaaaaaahk!


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>ukraine
>arrests people for having marxist literature

>russia
>anti democratic oligarchs

who is the good and bad guy from a socialist perspective? maybe none?
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>>2318517
More like
>ooga booga fucking Carter is funding jihadists to destroy Afghanistan we should help our allies repel them

>>2318548
Meanwhile in reality in China all energy production is carried out by the government.

https://energyiceberg.com/state-owned-power-utilities/

Maybe you should look more into actual statistics and hard data rather than auto believing whatever bullshit Xi likes to trick Western investors with.

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>>2318647

State-owned enterprise can still be engaged in commodity production.

Looks to me judging by the price fluctuations that in some places it's sold as a commodity with price fluctuations, while in others it's not (so as a subsidy for developing other forms of commodity productuon): https://www.ceicdata.com/en/china/electricity-price-36-city

>>2318765
commodity production implies the extraction of surplus labor by a capitalist. so no, state-owned anything can't engage in commodity production
the actual point you could make is that state-managed doesn't equal state-owned and check if these nominally public companies don't give dividends to shareholders, either directly or through some industrial bond scheme. except you are too stupid to figure this out, you have nothing to add to the conversation

and, of course, you are disingenuously confusing the concept of "commodity production" with the vernacular word "commodity". in that quote xi is using this last definition which means raw materials and capital goods, not the social circumstances of production. it's funny that you think the fluctuation of prices equals commodity production as defined by marx

I legitimately do not understand what's the point of posting when your only point is a word game


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