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Why can't have of this website admit this guy was a hellspawn and had a very negative impact on communism's reputation abroad?
Not even his regressive social policies or endless sectarianism in regards to fragile socialist movements abroad is brought up
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>>2555383
>The Sino Soviet split, at least if you take Mao at his word, is actually explicitly over the USSR ditching the orthodox line of Stalin. The later Albanian faction and split from both *also* happened because of perceived divergence from Stalins Orthodoxy by both the USSR and China.
I'm not sure, Mao and the Chinese communists would say stuff like that, but Mao privately criticized Stalin to Soviet officials after Stalin died, and then a lot more publicly in speeches and writings. He said Stalin didn't understand dialectics and had a one-sided way of thinking, and that you couldn't criticize or disagree with him. If you did that, you were deemed a counterrevolutionary and executed. If you disagreed with the USSR, you were automatically anti-Soviet. But the Chinese also didn't like how Khrushchev made Stalin out to be so terrible. That's actually an interesting thing to me. You couldn't criticize him when he was alive, and the Soviets built statues of him and names cities after him, and then tore those things down and renamed the cities after he died. It was either one way or the other.

Stalin also refused to believe in the idea that contradictions continue to exist in socialism. In the Stalinist view of things, things are either this way or that. The crux of the matter is that Mao criticized a view that you just need to focus on developing the forces of production (because you've assumed you already have an advanced social system / relations of production / i.e. socialism). This was a "revisionist" idea because in his view the socialist transition is a stage of revolution so you need continued struggle against continuing bourgeois influence in society and in the economic system.

They had other issues with Stalin. Like in "Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR," it basically says nothing about the superstructure. It's not concerned with people, only things. Technology decides everything, the cadres decide everything, not the masses. "They speak only of the production relations, not of the superstructure nor politics, nor the role of the people. Communism cannot be reached unless there is a communist movement."

Also, I think a big reason for the Sino-Soviet split is that the Chinese felt the Soviets didn't treat them as equals.

>Nevertheless, despite s
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>>2557165
Good post and i fully agree. Hence the "if we take mao it his word".
My post was mostly aimed at challanging the vague and outright full rejection of an important historical figure in the movement, which often just indicates intellectual laziness and an increased risk of actually repeating the same mistakes because of refusing to engage in granular criticisms.

>hellspawn
<negative impact on reputation
liberal ideology Democrats always whine about "messaging" in their realpolitik public relations as the biggest problem facing the working class. "Stalin is a demonic satanist! His art zines are so uncouth!" lmao 😂

>>2557174
>repeating the same mistakes
euphoric anti-Stalinist nazi settlers:
>"I'm a post-historical subject, my nu-bourgeois revolution is epic and based, I am beyond history, I'm modern and not like those ignorant people in the past"
euphoric anti-Stalinist DSA settlers:
>(same soy redditor PMC ideology from the Elon Musk sci-fi fanclub who uses AI to manage their slaves exactly as IBM did during the holocaust, but now its a Jewish settler surveillance state of transgender drone programmers who insist they are anti-fascist)


>>2557044
>Social liberty is bound with material liberty,



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I was arguing with a third worldist/read settlers type the other day who was telling me they don’t feel bad for homeless westerners and that they deserve it. Now I absolutely hate American Imperialism as much as any socialist should but this seems like an absurd leap in logic to wish ill on the common people of the west who while they do benefit in some degree from imperialism, don’t hold the power structure and are also the ones who are made to fight in their bullshit wars. Is socialism when you wish homelessness on white people?
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Why are you on twitter arguing with Hazoids?

>>2557011
>This doesn’t describe the marxist analysis of the capital system to begin with, capitalism isn’t a conspiracy enacted by the Jew the bourgeoisie
When I said minority at the top I was in fact talking about capitalists.

>Do you apply the same logic to military dictatorships throughout the world?

I‘m really tired of autism level pedantry that refuses to recognize that a person will not address the hundred nuances that are actually involved in their opinion. With that level of obtuseness people would have to write entire books for every statement they make because every possible angle of pedantry would have to be covered.

Obviously it matters what exactly the circumstances are and I believe someone living under a military dictatorship has a good excuse for why they don‘t take action against it. This isn’t the case for Westerners, so stop acting stupid.

>Every living human tends to

That’s the reasoning of a 5 year old to get out of trouble. That everyone allegedly does something doesn‘t actually make it okay. And there‘s a difference between seeking comfort in trivial matters compared to when it comes systems of oppression where average Westerners had plenty of freedom to educate themselves, organize and engage in effective political actions. Instead they prioritized their comfort at the cost of billions of people living in misery around the planet. That is inexcusable.

>>2554998
>I was arguing with a third worldist/read settlers type
why would you do this? online or ir…yeah dont argue with children on the internet
>>2555011
>They told me they were an accelerationist
thats retarded. left acceleration is just the observation that technology increases the frequency of crisis based on marxs fragment on machines

>>2556128
>Hitler speech bubble
white doesnt mean white skin it means colorless as in opposition to colored. its the default not a race and its a historical category based on how capitalism developed not an essentialist trait. its you that has the hitler particles for thinking its an identity



 

Dear anons, I am looking for an infographic that seems to have vanished from the internet. It was showing a map of Eastern Europe with a headline saying something like "Fall of socialism: failure or success?" and picturing growth of GDP per capita in various Eastern European nations between 1989 and something like 2010. It was very neatly made and clearly came from some think tank or another thing of the sort. Does anyone of you remember it? I apologize if I should have posted in some thread but I couldn't find anything appropriate.

Can't help you but maybe it was scrubbed and that shitty life expectancy of eastern bloc countries was pushed instead.



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So, it's cool to talk about theory and all of that, but what's should I do to actually change the world instead of having theory discussion onlinr 24/7? What's the key stuff that I need to do to actually start to make a change in the world?
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>>2556800
Vuvuzela is run by a cartel, no need for the CIA boogeyman

>>2556907
>/leftypol/ supporting all kinds of far right critters "anti-imperialists" but stabbing socialists in the back
Another banger.

>>2556536
>>2556608
Join the Maoists they are the only principled group

>>2556940
>2% of workforce is needed to feed rest of population due to automation in agriculture
<lets start a peasant revolution
Brilliant.

>>2556907
Source?



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Germany’s hard-left icon steps down as leader of populist party she founded
“I will continue to be active in a leadership role within BSW,” Wagenknecht said. “And I will continue to support the party with great commitment on its path ahead and in the next election campaigns.” BSW, a party that merges elements of hard-left and hard-right politics — an ideology Wagenknecht has dubbed “left conservativism” — surged in national polls shortly after its creation and was particularly popular in the former East Germany, where the party won parliamentary seats in two states.
https://www.politico.eu/article/top-german-left-wing-politician-steps-down-leader-bsw-sahra-wagenknecht/
https://archive.ph/gUWAr

Tens of thousands in Portugal protest proposed new labour laws
Saturday’s protest, called by the trade unions, was in opposition to a planned revision of employment laws that Prime Minister Luis Montenegro’s government says is aimed at improving productivity and flexibility in the job market. Opponents say it threatens workers’ rights and should be withdrawn. Demonstrators carried posters that read “no to the labour package” and called for higher wages.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/tens-thousands-portugal-protest-proposed-new-labour-laws

Petro recalls Colombia’s ambassador to US over suspected plot to fabricate criminal charges
Petro made the decision after news publication Cambio published a photo taken by the White House that shows a Trump administration official holding open a folder with an image of Petro and his Venezuelan counterpart Nicolas Maduro in orange prison uniforms. Apart from the image, the document called “The Trump Doctrine for Colombia and the Western Heisphere” proposed, among other things, “comprehensive investigations into Petro’s campaign finances.”
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>Germany’s hard-left icon
Lmao

Trump threatens to cut air traffic controllers' pay
"For those that did nothing but complain, and took time off, even though everyone knew they would be paid, IN FULL, shortly into the future, I am NOT HAPPY WITH YOU," Trump wrote on Truth Social. He said he'd recommend bonuses of $10,000 to each controller who didn't take any time off during the shutdown.
https://www.axios.com/2025/11/10/trump-air-traffic-controllers-pay-shutdown
https://archive.ph/R443C

Male Drivers Sue Uber and Lyft For Sex Discrimination Over Women-Only Ride-Hailing Feature
Lawyers acting for the plaintiffs argue that male drivers “are discriminated against and receive fewer and different rides than they otherwise would absent the policy.” They contend that the policy “reinforces the gender stereotype that men are more dangerous than women.”
https://time.com/7332356/uber-lawsuit-sex-discrimination-lyft/
https://archive.ph/ZiLW1

Angry Democrats call on Schumer to resign after eight vote to end shutdown
Democrats are seething after news emerged on Sunday that eight members of their Senate caucus had collaborated with Republicans on crafting a compromise to end the longest government shutdown in US history, without winning any healthcare concessions that they had sought. But one name is coming in for more opprobrium than any other: Chuck Schumer, the Senate minority leader who had led the Democrats’ weeks-long stand against reopening the government without an extension of tax credits that lower premiums for Affordable Care Act (ACA) health plans.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/10/chuck-schumer-resign-calls-shutdown-vote-democrats

Trump officials set to approve ‘forever chemical’ as pesticide ingredient
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(Chapo Trap House) 985 - The Murder Inc. Doctrine feat. Greg Grandin (11/10/25)
As we inch closer to war with Venezuela, historian Greg Grandin returns to Chapo for a history lesson about the War on Drugs as well as Venezuela’s Bolivarian Revolution. We also talk about the US’s long-running economic interests and petty feuds in Latin America, particularly regarding the region’s oil supplies. We then briefly speculate about just how bad and chaotic a regime change operation against Venezuela might be for the US and Latin America.
https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/985-the-murder-inc-doctrine-feat-greg-grandin-111025

CP of Greece, The provocations and anti-KKE slanders will fail once again
The so-called World Anti-Imperialist Platform (WAP) —the apologists for the Russian and Chinese bourgeoisie in their imperialist competition with the US and the Euro-Atlantic camp— are once again exposed. At a time when they indulge into fantasies about “anti-imperialist axes” and “anti-fascist fronts”, they remain silent about the fascist meeting of the “Paladins” held a few weeks ago in St. Petersburg. Under the official auspices of the Russian state and the ruling United Russia party, fascist scum from all over the world assembled there, including members of the Nazi Golden Dawn party. Led by the well-known anti-KKE obsessive Patelis, theoretical instructor of the WAP, they know believe that they have found an opportunity to launch a vulgar offensive against the KKE and the parties with which it cooperates. This time, they are targeting the Communist Party of Venezuela and, through it, the KKE, repeating the absurd claim that the CP of Venezuela (and, by extension, the KKE) is aligned with the forces of María Corina Machado — forces that call on the US to intervene militarily to overthrow the Maduro government.
https://www.solidnet.org/article/CP-of-Greece-The-provocations-and-anti-KKE-slanders-will-fail-once-again/

Democrats Caved in the Shutdown Fight. Unions Let Them.
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Thanks News Anon

>>2556719
Politico also called Gregor Gysi a "Marxist firebrand". It got bought in 2021 by Axel Springer, but it always has been absolute dogshit regarding German politics.



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I was going to post this in /usapol/ but effort posts usually get buried so bare with me. I just want some opinions on this draft of some thoughts:

The capitalist class operates with little regard for borders, a fluidity it leverages to its advantage. The entire United States functions as a network of neocolonies—these states host governments that do not represent their people, but rather the corporations that operate within them. The majority of the population is exploited within this system; in fact, only a privileged 10% truly benefit from the capitalist-imperialist economy.

Beneath this broadly exploited class lies a layer of the hyper-exploited, who form the core source of slave labor for this anti-life regime. This super-exploitation is manufactured along racial, gender, and other lines, a deliberate construct of capitalism's superstructure. The rise of a hyper-militarized "War from Within," waged by agencies like ICE, makes this brutally clear. Hispanic people—and by extension, Indigenous people, as the term "Hispanic" is itself a colonizer label invented in the 1970s to impose a European (Spanish) heritage—are primary targets. Even the spectacle of Proud Boys leaders who identify as Hispanic cannot obscure this systemic reality; it only reiterates the haunting contradictions we must confront.

This pattern is rooted in an unfinished past. The first American Revolution of 1776 was ultimately a war over which faction of the capitalist class would control the colonies. While it included a small but notable faction of true people's revolutionaries—figures like Thomas Paine, who argued for abolishing slavery from the outset—they failed. Their defeat meant the people's revolution was never completed.

Therefore, we are not simply communists or anarchists, though we may be influenced by both. We are abolitionists. Our purpose is to finish that people's revolution and free this land from capital's control.

This struggle did not begin with us, nor did it pause after 1776. It is a continuous thread woven through this land's history: in the pan-tribal resistance led by Tecumseh, in the stunning victory of Indigenous nations at the Battle of Little Bighorn, in the bloody righteousness of Nat Turner’s rebellion, and in John Brown’s holy war against chattel slavery. The Civil War itself contained revolutionary, abolitionist currents that were ultimately subverted by capital, which traded chattel slavery for the prison oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2555249
>massive identity crisis
I think you just hit the nail on the head. They didn't teach history or civics after the last boomer graduated and people became mesmerized by escapist infotainment and propaganda. I see people searching for meaning since they don't know where they came from, but maybe I don't see so good anymore and someone better than me will eventually flesh it out.

>>2555263
>I see people searching for meaning since they don't know where they came from
Then I see a good oportunity to vanquish nationalism, not to raise it from the dead in make up.

Stealth bump

Read Settlers

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>>2535946
>>2536413
hmm i read these two posts back to back and the first one seems very reasonable and the second one seems to be coping and seething.



 

>need to develop productive forces for communism to happen
>this fucks up the earth and nature

how do we reconcile this as gommunists? whenever I see people calling for protecting the amazon there is an argument that the people cutting down the trees are just trying to make a living.
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>>2556671
Just because you can destroy nature doesn't mean you should.

>>2556688
Nice dubs, but you didn't read
<we use it *whether we mean to or not*
<The debate is over what we must destroy, not if we will, because creation requires destruction (this is what alteration *is*)

Even if you decide to be as low impact as possible and your solution is "we should build nests in the trees like birds to be as in tune with nature as possible", you're missing the point that you still have to pick which wood to build the friggin' treehouses/nests out of. Destruction is inevitable. Pick your poison and the degree of it you find acceptable, because the poison is in the dose.

>>2556696
You're being pedantic, obviously you need to consume things to live to some extent but some people ITT are acting like retards saying we should destroy nature.

>>2556671
>invoking a Creator at all, in any capacity, ever
>>>>>right
>ants building anthills is just a different mode of expression of the same behavior and has no meaningful difference from strip mining an entire mountain
>I'm a pantheist
>The debate is over what we must destroy, not if we will,
You are an enemy not only of the people but of life itself

>>2556697
>>2556702
Destruction of nature is inevitable. Fuck anthills, volcanos and hurricanes destroy too. And stuff grows in the space left behind. The question of destruction is of how we live in harmony through our destruction.
>the enemy of life itself
All I can say is "buh?".
Photosynthesis destroys photons to create glucose. This is like, basic physics. Transmutation is destruction, destruction is transmutation. It *is* life itself.

Again, the debate is over how we exploit resources, not if we do. It's inevitable. It is nature.

Most of us don't own strip mining corporations or even work them. You're strawmanning.



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What do you think about German far-left political party named Sahra Wagenknecht Alliance – Reason and Justice aka BSW?
Are they true communist redpilled comrades? Do they have any future? Will they replace Die Linke and would/will you vote for that party if were/are a German?
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>>2556179
Poor landlords, ziggers and petty bourgeoise lost their most promising social conservative

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>>2556670
Hapoily for ziggas the german nazis are picking up the slack

>checks [wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSW_group_(Bundestag))
>Absence from the speech of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy
>Volodymyr Zelenskyy
His name is Volodymyr? Volodymyr Zelenskyy vs. Vladimir Putin? No wonder people only say their last names.

>>2556678
yes, his name is Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelenskyy, abbreviated to VOZ

>>2556669
>kek if you ever voted for that party you might be retarded, no exceptions. it's a joke and a cesspool. i wish the mauermörder propaganda was true, but sadly it's not that. it's just a zionist performance art project with little to no merit.
why



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How are we going to achieve socialism after the climate apocalypse because we are not going to fix the climate what should leftists do when people get tired of barbarism

>>2550237
Pic is Fake story. >>2531538

No shit i thought it was funny

COP30 attendees navigate flooded corridors during heavy rainfall at climate conference venue | AFP

heh

reed desert



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Stalinoids have a tendency for projecting their great man idealism and assume Marxist critique of their cult is based on vilifying Stalin the man. However we reject their mythology of the one man (Khrushchev) singlehandedly dismantling an entire mode of production.

The Russian revolution lost because it failed to become international. Stalin had little to no role to play in that. In fact our only contention with Stalin is much less dramatic, it's simply his opportunist decision to not recognize the defeat of the revolution and instead to parade its corpse in order to maintain yet another capitalist state. His and others desecration of the revolution set the workers movement decades back.
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>>2538339
but the reds won in russia. and then they had multiparty elections in the 90s and they lose. also is nicaragua communist now?

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>>2527596
>historically progressive

"Always with the historical dogmatism!"

UP

>>2527596
There isn't a feudal society left on Earth.

>>2556487
Learn to read illiterate western faggot



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