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Solidarity pours in for workers of McDonald’s in Serbia
Masina reported that in the press conference, three long-time workers of McDonald’s outlets detailed their grievances including low wages, poor working conditions, long shifts, constant transfers, insults and abuses. Jonathan Johanson, campaign coordinator from IUF, said that “Workers from this industry – with a workforce of 12 million people – talk about terrible working conditions in almost all countries, and McDonald’s – a major employer in the sector – constantly increases the value of its shares, but does not share the profits that the workers generate with them.”

Germany to criminalize denying war crimes, genocide
Alleged war crimes in Bucha, Ukraine. Genocide of the Yazidi. Human rights violations against Uyghurs in China. The list of atrocities in conflicts around the world is long. Yet time and again, some people downplay or deny these crimes ever happened. Lawmakers in Germany no longer want to tolerate this state of affairs and want to make such statements punishable by law if they are used to stir up hatred or disturb the public peace. The lower chamber of German parliament, the Bundestag, voted for an amendment at the end of October, and on Friday, it is set to pass in the Bundesrat, the upper chamber which represents the state governments. The approval, denial, and "gross trivialization" of war crimes and instances of genocide will now fall under the criminal offense of "incitement of the people" in a newly created Paragraph 5 of Section 130.

Spanish right launch sexist attacks on equality minister over consent law
The law, introduced by Spain’s Socialist-led coalition government after the fury and revulsion that followed the so-called “wolfpack” gang-rape in Pamplona six years ago, made sexual consent a key factor in sexual assault cases. But it also revised the scope of potential minimum and maximum prison sentences, inadvePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>denying the uyghur genocide is illegal in Germany
Freedom of speech guys.


Multipolarism in action guys


This far removed, I feel like it can be difficult to understand just how much of a stain the Nazis are on German history. They probably feel like they have to put as much as they can into it not happening again.


>Germany to criminalize denying war crimes, genocide
>Alleged war crimes in Bucha, Ukraine.
The Bucha war crimes were almost certainly committed by Ukrainians as revenge killings against those Ukrainians that were working with the Russian forces. If they criminalize that, virtually the entire mass-media strata, would become liable for denying that. It is very likely that everybody who (probably falsely) attributed these to Russia is a war-crime denier.
The Bandera Nazis were in the process of committing genocide against the Donbass-Ukrainians in Luhansk and Donetsk. There is so much denial about that as well.
>Human rights violations against Uyghurs in China.
Starting with the CIA attempting to abuse a Chinese demographic as tool for geo-political secessionist aims. So many people will go into the denial box for that.
>The list of atrocities in conflicts around the world is long
Yes for example every Zionist has to go into the denial box regarding the brutalization of Palestinians.
All the liberals that support the fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian mantra, into the atrocity box they go.
Everybody who supports sanctions that harm civilians, bam atrocities.
Almost every argument that isn't rooted in anti-imperialism is supporting some kind of atrocities.

>Lawmakers in Germany no longer want to tolerate this state of affairs and want to make such statements punishable by law if they are used to stir up hatred or disturb the public peace.

Considering how much hatred against Russians the mainstream media war-propaganda has caused, it's astonishing they go for that.
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>This far removed, I feel like it can be difficult to understand just how much of a stain the Nazis are on German history. They probably feel like they have to put as much as they can into it not happening again.
That is true Germany has different sensibilities in that regard.

Obviously the initial media claims of the Chinese state sending 2 million Uyghurs into NAZI style extermination or concentration camps was wrong. The media admitted as much and changed the accusation to "cultural genocide". (I have no idea what that means). I have seen somewhat credible indications that the Chinese state forced a large number of people to go to vocational training facilities. Forcing grown-ups into what amounts to a boarding school that is definitely overstepping boundaries. If you contrast it what the US did to Muslims during the "war on terror" campaigns in the middle east, or the abuses in the enormously huge US private prison system. That seems like it's worse, do we call those things a type of genocide too ? And everybody who doesn't agree with that criticism a genocide denier ?

I can get why there is a hard stance against holocaust-denial, but non of the events in question come even remotely close to this. There is a danger of eroding the severity of that historic memory by making these conceptual links.

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post examples of Wikipedia glowing

* glowie rhetoric/rightoid cope on the talk pages
* sus revision histories
* bizarre rightoid editors
* right wing articles with no leftist counterpart

archive: https://archive.ph/wip/mJOh6
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Documents show Facebook and Twitter closely collaborating w/ Dept of Homeland Security, FBI to police “disinfo.” Plans to expand censorship on topics like withdrawal from Afghanistan, origins of COVID, info that undermines trust in financial institutions.- TheIntercept



Not enough people are talking about this. It’s absurd.


that's more of an FBI thing. read the terror factory by trevor aaronson




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bump. more comrades should register accounts on WP. shit has gotten worse with liberals soyfacing over Ukraine. if you point out the connection between Ukrainian fascists today with those of the past then you will be sanctioned

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What explains why how we went from 1950's conservativism to extreme liberalism being the mainstream in the media, culture, academia, and really almost all areas of society? I don't understand how this happened and so quickly? What are your guys theories?
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It's a lot easier to maintain capitalism if communists can't just recruit 10 percent of the population with ease just because they like to fuck guys in the ass. Or to maintain capitalism when the black ghettos don't see their only ways of liberation to be extremely violent uprisings.


Liberalism is more amenable to the expansion of markets. Under conservatism, everyone is the same white bread type, with only one religion. With liberalism you can sell to that demographic and all the other subcultures and groups. Diversity and the like is just a way to multiply and refine ever more particularized and niche markets.


>Hipsterism is the inevitable end result of late stage advanced capitalism.
A English poet and beatnik Jeff Nuttall wrote a book Bomb Culture, on 1950s counter culture. It's been years since I read it but IMS it covered things like CND/the Aldermaston marches, but also some more obscure stuff like ton up boys and lurid public interest in the Moors Murderers.
In an interview he seemed to suggest '66-' 67 was around when things got commodified:
<In Jonathon Green's Days In The Life: Voices From The English Underground (1988), Jeff recalled "a shift between 1966 and 1967 from poetry and art and jazz and anti-nuclear politics to just sex and drugs, the arrival of capitalism. The market saw that these revolutionaries could be put in a safe pen and given their consumer goods. What we misjudged was the power and complexity of the media, which dismantled the whole thing. It bought it up. And this happened in 67, just as it seemed that we'd won".


>from 1950's conservativism to extreme liberalism

<he still thinks liberalism isn't conservative

<he still thinks liberalism is when "not conservative"
<he still thinks conservative is when "not liberal"
<he doesn't understand revolution vs. reaction
<he doesn't understand that the mode of production hasn't changed since the 1950s
<he posted a black and white photo because he wishes people still wore expensive suits and went to church


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>it's another "why don't people still wear togas and make marble statues" thread

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Winter's coming, and the people left without power… When will negotiations start?

Recent news
>Ukraine to start evacuations in Kherson and Mykolaiv regions as winter sets in
>Defense & NatWhat Russia has gained and lost so far in Ukraine, visualizedional Security — Russian shelling ongoing in Ukraine as winter sets in
>Ukraine Urges Limiting Electricity Use and Readies Voluntary Kherson Evacuation
>Russian forces were suffering from 'electronic fratricide' within days of attacking Ukraine, a new report says
>Ukraine to civilians: Leave liberated areas before winter
>What Russia has gained and lost so far in Ukraine, visualized
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Are the train routes between China and Europe now closed through Russia because of the sanctions? Not clear on their current status.


here is, the newest bread: >>1278819


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holly shit, lmao, what a group of conmen.


>🇷🇺🇺🇦 Sparta battalion dropping grenades at Ukrainian militants
Very unsporting.
I think technically a war crime. You can't shoot combatants that are incapacitated legally speaking. Got me wondering. What about if a soldier pretends to be dead? Would you have to prove in court that they were only pretending to be incapacitated?


>we arent russiaboos, we support Russia because they are anti-imperialist in their efforts in Ukraine and elsewhere.
<LGTB rights should be respected in Russia.

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What is your favorite Leftist flag?
Mine is rebublican spain.
You can pick the flag of a country or ideology or political party.
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I know its not really leftist related but what are your thoughts on this flag vs the official one. Some guy created it because he wanted the stars to be more prominent. Heres a video segment about it, really short.


its best medium is in the form of a toilet paper roll
honestly, this flag should be treated by communists the same way the bolsheviks treated tsarist and white-republican iconography


Putting that aside, do you think it a worst or better flag, in terms of flag


not the lad you replied to but I like it more.


From a design standpoint, I like the redesign. I really dislike flags that use the tiny corner design.

The JCP flag is an example of a design I like.

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so john hinckley jr, the crazy guy who tried to assassinate ronald reagan to win the affection of jodie foster and was in a psych ward from 1981 to 2016, just started his own political party
If not for the platform he posted you'd think this is a right wing italian fascist group but its pretty neo-lib actuality
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I thought it looked like the Twin Peaks rune


I was thinking a vape brand


Oh, yeah… I mean, Quake, or I guess Quake 2 came to my mind because it has logos similar to that one inside the game and NIN provided music for the game. I've read their own logo appears on some in game weapon, iirc. But as a band their choice of images and themes reminds me more of a darker, industrial version of New Order, if anything. In truth, the one larping as a kind of fascist was Marilyn Manson back in the day and that was part of his edgy, shock rock persona. Even though he's actually fucked up.


And beside that, yeah, that's a disappointing logo, very cheap and gives that kind of energy drink can vibe. But let's be fair to the man, he's been locked up and hypermedicated for decades.
On another note, I think that a JHjr-Yaorenmao duet would be epic.


Papa Bush was the actual president then; Reagan, true to his actor roots, was a figurehead. Bush and his associates in the military and intelligence were the one overseeing the Condor ops Iran-Contra was a small part of, to give one example.

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Even if anarchists are better at mutual aid, less likely to become armchairs, are braver in the heat of battle, and so on, I don't understand how Anarchism as an ideology can lead to a stable society. How do you protect your revolutionary gains without implementing something resembling a state? How do you prevent your enemies from taking advantage of the lack of hierarchy? You can overthrow what exists, but unless you replace it with something better, you just have a power vacuum that will be immediately filled by opportunists if you don't take power yourself. I suppose this is the chief paradox of politics, isn't it? Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, so taking power from the reactionaries and trying to protect that power you took so you can implement your agenda will slowly corrupt you and your comrades and cause you to resemble the reactionaries you took power from (meet the new boss same as the old boss), but simply overthrowing the reactionaries without replacing their order with something better is just leaving a power vacuum for any opportunist to fill.

What's the answer to this riddle?
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>At some point then it must have stopped being a democracy
It just changed from a proletariat democracy to a bourgeois democracy
>and then finally collapsed from internal bureaucratic rot
I don't like this wording, this make it seem like the USSR ended up being some overbloated bureaucratic mess that wasn't able to sustain itself.
That's not what happened, it forcibly dissolved by the bourgeois against the will of the people.

The ruling class in the late USSR was the bourgeois class, superstructural elements of society legitimize the interests of the ruling class, while reformist measures were taken to somehow shape the USSR to these bourgeois interests, the path of least resistance was to smash away the entire thing and build a liberal democracy on top


>How can you have a state without class character?
Not very long.

See, capitalists need a material base too, unsurprisingly, and after first five year plans, commodiy production was driven to the fringes of society relations. The war gave them a chance to rise again due to destruction of a lot of industry. They started small, from speculants in the food market and grew untill they had what it takes to sieze power from the workers. And that's exactly what they did.

After the war it was like inbetween state between proletariat who became beheaded by war and was too tired to think about reorganizing nad wagin class war (soviet society after wwii was pacifistic to the degree of being stupid) and semi-capitalists without much organization and almost no accumulated resources. Obvously that situation couldn't hold for long and it didn't. History is a process and it takes times for a change to take palce. 30 years is not much time historically speaking.


>It just changed from a proletariat democracy to a bourgeois democracy
That's quite a feat considering the near complete lack of a bourgeoisie. I'm not sure where you can find a significant bourgeois class in the postwar USSR before Glasnost.


>I'm not sure where you can find a significant bourgeois class in the postwar USSR before Glasnost.
Not much straight after war, though they did exist. But they grew in number and power, not officially of course but there wer plenty of schemes to utilise socialist production for their own profits. Remember that capitalism is not just about factory owners and bankers, in feudalism it started with selling your own goods and reselling someone elses. So it did in socialism at first.

For example a manager of the state shop could organize with manager of produce markets (that existed for kolkhoz to sell their produce). Shop manager would put their combined money money in the cash register of the shop and report that all goods are sold successfully to the state, but instead they would sel them illegally on the kolkhoz market for twice-thrice the price and split the difference. That where the "deficit of the commodities" mostly came from - it's not that the state couldn't produce them enough it's that they weren't distributed in a proper manner and instead sold for profit, and not every worker could afford them at markup prices. The goods that couldn't be sold were destroyed in a predictable capitalist manner. If not "capitalist" what would you call those managers? Obviously people like that desired to use the profits at their own pleasure but couldn't because socialist production wouldn't allow - you couldn't just buy an appartment or a car just because you had money, and even if you bribed some official to put you ahead of the queue te state would still ask you where the money did come from. Obviously people like that desired for capitalism.

It is just one fo the examples of how capitalism existed in a socialist country - mostly on illegal or semi-legal base, but when you have money and commodity production even in small amounts, you will have capitalist relations and people with capitalist class interests.

Another example is to cheat the state out of some material and use illegally formed workshops to make something out of it. For example, some factory workers and managers would cheat on weighting the materials they have gotten for production or overstate the material losses from production and either resell the material itself on a market or form an underground workshop to make goods out Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


>>1279556 (me)
>There was a case where an illegal workshop was set up in a psychiatric ward under pretense of work therapy. Patients were making dresses out of stolen material while the managers and doctor were selling them and splitting profits.
They even made a movie about it later.


your barely-educated grandchildren will die at 40 from some kind of cancer you get from microplastics in the untreated water after being squeezed of all their possible surplus labor value while their pampered masters shall live for hundreds of years in excess and splendor. When the proletariat are no longer needed because production is fully automated and AI-driven, the proletariat will be quietly genocided and the bourgeoisie will live in communism. That's the one thing Marx didn't see coming: That the bourgeoisie will simply build communism for themselves and kill off all the proles. That's what is happening. Do something about it before it's too late.
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No evil cabal needed, just a bunch of "go-getters" independently pursuing their best interests.

Also, "muh conspiracy" is not an argument, MKUltra was a "conspiracy theory" before it turned out it was true.


Anon even Main Stream Media was talking about MKULTRA in the early 70's, it wasn't just some shit someone on an image board assumed tier. it had a lot of foundation.


>…are you implying that the ruling booj are the ones writing films? (or the science-fiction novel writers they plagiarize)
>I'm not saying that films are free from booj influence/filters but they aren't the creative ones in the process.
Well, props to Lucas for what he said, but unless writer is at least somewhat class conscious, he is gonna jusr repeat porky propaganda. Also, think about what Lucas said - while porky aren't ones creating those movies, they control what is made, limiting creative process to sui the market and porky's needs.


The bane of every commercial artist that isn't rich: you either make shit that appeals to a certain audience or you starve. In this way the artist is functionally no different from a dancing monkey. If it wasn't for capitalism we'd have a LOT more experimentation and unconventional approaches in entertainment.


It's not just about audience. Capitalists aren't just following tastes of the public, they are actively forming them. I am pretty sure that public wouldn't mind more movies with class struggle undertones (Squid Game was quite popular). But capitalists control what goes on the market and what doesn't, so with rare exceptions you don't get a lot of such movies

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Union vows to shut down Post Office over wages, unpaid benefits
The Communication Workers Union (CWU) says it will look to shut down South African Post Office (SAPO) branches around the country on Thursday and Friday as workers demand a 15% wage increase and solutions to the ongoing medical aid contributions crisis. SAPO has been failing to keep up with employees' medical aid contributions to its medical aid provider, Medipos, with the most recent conflict arising earlier this month. 

Deepening poverty fuels mass school dropout in Turkey
“According to official statistics, some 1.2 million children aged 5-17 were not enrolled in any school in the 2021-2022 period. If you add the students attending vocational schools and open schools where they work four days a week, nearly 4 million children are outside the regular education system today, either working for low wages or searching for jobs,” he explained.

Palestine: Children flee as Israeli forces demolish West Bank elementary school
Israeli forces demolished a Palestinian elementary school near the city of Hebron in the southern occupied West Bank on Wednesday. Asafat, a boys' and girls' school, was demolished in Asafat al-Fawqa, one of the villages that make up the area of Masafer Yatta, whose Palestinian residents have long been threatened with eviction and demolition orders by Israeli authorities. Footage taken by Israeli activist Itai Feitelson before the demolition shows teachers helping young Palestinian students out of a classroom window, with Israeli forces standing outside.

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US tech layoffs: India workers face painful exit from the US
Layoffs across the tech industry, including at firms like Twitter, Meta and Amazon, have affected a significant number of Indians working in the US who are on visas like the H-1B. California-based journalist Savita Patel speaks to workers who are facing the prospect of being forced to return to India if they don't find another job.

U.S. retailers add cameras, steel cables to deter holiday crime
Retailers ranging from Walmart (WMT.N) to Barnes & Noble are installing cameras or locking away items to deter shoplifters and thieves as they brace for a post-pandemic rush of holiday shoppers this year. Some, including Walmart, J.C. Penney, Apple Inc. and Walgreens (WBA.O), put in place new surveillance systems or more security guards. Others, like Target (TGT.N) and Barnes & Noble, sealed merchandise behind plexiglass or tethered it with steel cables to store shelves.

Food banks are struggling this holiday season as inflation creates 'perfect storm'
Food banks across the country will enter this holiday season with their resources strained as inflation continues to pummel the economy. Soaring food prices and a drop in donations mean many food bank warehouses are more thinly stocked than in recent years, said Katie Fitzgerald, chief operating officer at Feeding America, a nonprofit overseeing a network of more than 200 food banks across the country.

Judge blocks New York restrictions on guns on private property
Sinatra ruled in a lawsuit brought by two firearms owners and two gun rights groups. The Firearms Policy Coalition, one of the groups, called the ruling a “monumPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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Review – Adam Curtis’ ‘Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone’
Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone is the latest offering by Adam Curtis, consisting of seven hours of footage recovered from the BBC archives in Moscow. The series opens a window into what life in the Warsaw Pact looked like during its collapse.  Unfortunately, however, Curtis keeps the window as tightly shut as possible for those looking to actually understand these events. Free-market fanatics: Curtis’ only input amounts to his editing and subtitled commentary. In this, he turns this historic material into yet another means of attacking the Soviet Union. Instead of a real analysis of the collapse of the USSR, Curtis regurgitates all of the usual slanders pumped out by bourgeois academics. From the very first episode of the series, the viewer is assaulted with the sins of “the communists”. A lot of this points to the very real crimes of the Stalinist’s mismanagement of the economy, and the resulting social ripples that were soon to turn into waves. When it comes to offering any answers, however, Curtis simply blames “the plan”. He shows us the Gosplan office riddled with unproductive meetings, trying to decide in Moscow what will be produced in Kamchatka. Almost all of episode two is spent on driving that one point home: that a planned economy will not work under any circumstances.  Curtis’ view basically parrots the line of the libertarian economists of the Austrian School – capitalism’s free-market fanatics – and their so-called ‘Economic Calculation Problem’. This is the idea that a modern economy simply cannot be planned due to its complexity.

Jacobin Is Wrong: The Midterms Were Not a Socialist Wave
Centrist candidates aside, it’s true that the Squad expanded its ranks. Maxwell Frost — Congress’s first Generation Z lawmaker — won his race in Florida, and will be joined in the House by Texas’s Greg Casar, Illinois’s Delia Ramirez, and Summer Lee, Pennsylvania’s first Black female congressperson. These individuals espouse progressive positions on many issues, and their election shows that progressive ideas are gaining steam. But do more Squad members mean that congress can be turned into a vehicle for leftist change? The records oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


Thanks News Anon



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On the first day of Christmas, the unions gave to us:
A train strike, take the damn bus~

On the second day of Christmas, the unions gave to us:­­­­
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I've already heard Christmas music playing.


Christmas starts the day after Halloween, thirdie.


Seven percent pay rise,
Six weeks vacation,
Five type of insurance,
Four day work weeks,
Three weeks of paid leave,
Two busted busters,
and a train strike, take the damn bus~

On the eighth day…


Christmas starts the day after Thanksgiving


I disagree.

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