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Why was stalin such a paranoud lunatic? And who was his most indefensible kill?








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>>2432676
r/UltraLeft still remains the most communist place on the internet, right after the site of the ICP (.org).

>>2432692
You forgot worldsocialism.org

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>>2432708
No that's definitely liberal, there is no party but the Internationalist Communist Party (.org) and Bordiga was its messenger. The "World Socialist Party (New Zealand)" and its blasphemous texts can be nothing more than the works of falsifiers, deniers and modernizers derived from the social-democratic bourgeois tribes of Mensheviks as kin of Stalin and Mao.

>>2432713
MARXSHALLAH
AMADEO AKBAR

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Anyone know much about the FRSO ? Freedom road socialist org?
Every one of them I meet seems like a nerdy gamer type . But they know their Marxist theory .. but they are not a party and operate through the Lucy parson’s institute for social research . An NGO . They were raided by the Feds . And yes They seem the best of the socialist orgs in America but they seem like anarchists larping as stalinists to me . I hat do you think are they legit or no

>>2432334
>Every one of them I meet seems like a nerdy gamer type
I've run into FRSO people at things and "nerdy gamer type" sounds right, but I liked them. I'd give them the "most likely to actually go into the hood" award. I don't know a lot else about them.

>And yes They seem the best of the socialist orgs in America but they seem like anarchists larping as stalinists to me .

Yeah but isn't that what Maoism is. It's anarcho-stalinism. But yeah they're basically Maoists but they're not like, y'know

>>2432334
>Anyone know much about the FRSO?
FRSO is the zombified remains of the right-wing pro-Deng split from the New Communist Movement in the late 70s and early 80s. They are the result of the unification of various pro-Deng splits in the NCM and what remained of the pro-Soviet "anti-revisionists" in 1980. Today, they're functionally identical politically and demographically to the PSL's and WWP's Marcyism, though they never flirted with nominal "support" of the Cultural Revolution the way PSL did. Like PSL (and the CPUSA, WWP, ACP, etc.) they are of the mind that the principal danger to the International Communist Movement is ultra-leftism. Hilariously, they see no connection between this political line and the constant emergence of social democratic opportunism and attempts at liquidation from within their ranks. The most commonly discussed incident along these lines was the attempt at "left refoundation" (abandonment of Marxism) in 1999, where both sides consider the other to be the "split" (insert Spider Man meme here).

So basically, join any of these organizations and you're likely to have about the same experience in work and politics. Most of y'all here would probably love it.

>>2432370
>It's anarcho-stalinism.
Part of the comedy that is this website is finding new and utterly meaningless terms. Y'all really can't help yourselves with the pseudo-intellectual bullshit. Throwing around shit like "anarcho-stalinism" while lacking the ability to even use proper punctuation.



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I'm noticing patterns recently with the most authoritarian communists on this board, the internet and in real life (though rarer in real life due to most of these people being shut-in freaks)
>calls themself an authoritarian communist, even though:
>>they literally don't have a job, or they have a "job" that they only got because one of their parents got them said job
>>is not involved in any way, shape, or form in the union at their place of employment, in fact actively despises colleagues and working class people in general because they might have less than politically correct opinions on things
>>has read all the material, and autistically corrects people on getting things wrong with regards to said material…to the point that they will alienate away anyone that might've actually been interested in left wing ideas
>>has LOTS OF OPINIONS on the politics of countries they only found out about because they watched a youtube video/wikipedia'd "what parties are left wing", lives in the middle of bumfucknowhere USA
>>continuing on with the previous point, will say insane, outlandish shit like "heh….everyone in X country should've just been genocided when X communist leader was in charge" in a tongue in cheek way, which only their weird orbiter followers will realise is a 'joke' while anyone else thinks they are fucking insane
>>freakishly obsessed with nerd hobbies to the point that it's offputting to anyone normal

Am I wrong in saying I think these sorts of people should be pulled away from leftist spaces for being annoying little LARPers? They always seem to be the "frontline" for left-wing discussions online for some reason, I assume because they have more time on their hands than people actually doing things in the real world.
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>>2395587
>actually you're an autistic LARPer
Correct
>alienation spergout
Two different senses of the word you literal spastic
>support fascism in Israel or Turkey or Azerbaijan
You do not support or oppose anything. You talk about countries and parties on the internet. When was the last time you sent money or weapons anywhere? Oh, never? Then you aren't supporting shit.

>>2389372
>they literally don't have a job…
Stopped reading right there.

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What's the point of politics if you're not authoritarian? Yes this is my platform, but uh, don't take it super seriously, I don't care if it's ever passed, lolz!

That's literally everyone on this board.

>I just realized something
>My opponent is SILLY and I am SENSIBLE AND SMART.



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The cold war, a 44 year old counter-revolution

What happened? Why did this happen and why did the USSR fail? Was it state capitalisms? What about the Sino-soviet split? Why that happen? How come the proletariat didn't revolt globally during ww2 at the height of communist power and influence? Did nuclear weapons stall the revolution and allow a counter revolution?

This thread exist to discuss all things related to the cold war and its aftermath. Please post your theories, or any information you have in regards to this topic here.
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>>2350569
>look at what else is on this guy's channel
>second most viewed video (800 views): 2 hours nitpick/rant about mtf in women's sports
Why are anglos like this

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>Why did the USSR fail?
The USSR: Destroyed by wreckers. Destroyed by corrupt narcissism. Destroyed by historical nihilism. Destroyed by lies. Destroyed by ossification of the CPSU. Destroyed by ideological stagnation.

>>2350628
>chyneeze televesion =/= CPC
The documentary is made by the CPC. It's official view of the CPC. So, no. It isn't a random Chinese tv documentary. There's an entire conclusion at the end of episode 6, which tailored made for CPC cadres.

>>2350567
Trvth nvke, but many here are not ready to accept it.



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You see why most Fascists today just stick to relying on shock value by saying the N-word or posting pictures of dead queer people or finding new meme slurs for jews, because when they try and do actually "serious theory" it becomes too obvious how vapid their ideology truly is, although to be fair not many people would immediately even recognise this as fascist because 99% of people only know fascism as "the bad guys in Indiana Jones". Same reason people don't realize how a movie like Metropolis is actually more "orthodox" fascist than Triumph of the Will.

Hell, most people have no idea what fascist class theory actually was because they assume it was the same as marxism for which they also don't know what it is.
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parasites are actually necessary for a balanced ecosystem, as well in some cases, providing symbiosis (same way bacteria is good for us, and too much hygeine can cause sickness). "value creation" is colloquially treated positively, as a quasi-newtonian conservation of energy by marxists and conservatives alike (as per the "laws of motion" of capital), but value can actually be formulated as a negative magnitude of disutility, as i explain in more detail here: >>2390777 this negative utility thus incurs an unstable sublimity, like sacrificial rites, so it isnt a good in itself. the most valuable labour is in effect, the most useless therefore (which is why the rich are equally useless). as for central banks, the only issue appears to be that they are privatised, so they should be nationalised instead. would any fascist really disagree with this sentiment themselves?
>>2431802
the regime we have today is totalitarian liberalism, which is the paradoxical trouble. how do we preserve freedom without enforcing the clause of its universality?
>>2431815
>dengists being wrong
not surprised.

>Metropolis is fascist
<"On Fredersen's orders, Rotwang abducts Maria, transfers her appearance to the robot, and releases the duplicate to incite a rebellion among the workers. However, the robot is programmed to obey only Rotwang, who secretly instructs it to cause destructive lust among the wealthy elite of Metropolis as well in a plot to ruin Fredersen. During the ensuing riots and power blackout…"
literally the same antisemitic tropes of "technocratic Jews are causing porn addiction in the masses" which we see from actual degenerates like Kanye West

>>2431202
>reactionary
"Futurism is reactionary" ᴉuᴉlossnW didn't make the trains run on time, he actually disassembled them and brought back horses and wood wagons
>anything the person doesn't like
Remarkably consistent fascist NPC dialog. They LITERALLY ALWAYS SAY THIS MEME lol

>>2431906
>he didn't read the spoiler text

>>2432260
>Remarkably consistent fascist NPC dialog.
Communist critique is fascist now.

Liberals love to use the scarecrow of fascism to cleanse the current existing system of its "sins" and get people rushing to defend it too. Always near, but never actually arrives.

>>2432260
>technocratic Jews are causing porn addiction in the masses
when I was 12 in about the year 2004 all my friends in middle school had girlfriends and I didn't. which you know i was probably a bit too young to have a girlfriend anyway and so were they. But it made me feel sad and lonely and I kept mentioning it out loud to people at school because I am probably undiagnosed autistic or something. Anyway a Jewish kid named Josh literally sold me the first porn I ever looked at which was about 600 MB of grainy JPGs of women of all races, probably with viruses on a CD. The folders were even organized by race lol. I probably haven't thought about that except 2 or 3 times in the past 21 years but this unlocked that memory. I'm not even a nazi or "noticer" type of person. I didn't even really think of Jewish people in any kind of way separate from normal American society until I started to learn about Israel and Palestine and dual citizenship and the whole apartheid system over there shockingly late in my life. Like a lot of white-passing Americans (I say passing because I'm not really "white" by "European" standards but w/e) I was fucking retarded and narcissistic and "apolitical" and didn't notice most of the world outside of America until I was in my 20s. I got on the tor node to say all of this because it's really embarrassing but I felt like sharing. Make of it what you will.

I never even questioned why I was circumcised until I was in my 20s either even though I'm not Jewish or Muslim or Christian. Secular "medical" circumcision was rampant in the US until around the time I was born.

When I did finally start to question things it was from a fedora atheist standpoint. I was grossed out by shit like Abu Ghraib but I was a bluepill normie in the sense that I really believed we were fighting "dictators" or "extremism" whatever until I started to learn about CIA coups.

Even with American exceptionalism I started to question retarded things first instead of important things, like "why do we use imperial instead of metric like everyone else? Are we stupid?"



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I’m a little surprised by how little discussion there is on the conventionality of knowing how to fight to politics given that it’s the legally hardest thing to get into trouble over and is one of the most versatile ways to deal with violent encounters both in terms of beating violent people and in terms of getting away or evading hits from them. Why exactly wouldn’t a socialist or even any liberation based thinker not advocate for the proletariat to not be someone capable in hand to hand combat (mainly for blocking and dodging different attacks and reliably disarming and fighting multiple people at once)?
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>>2431431
you are right. that gray nazi poster doesnt know what he's talking about.

>>2431431
sage. log onto matrix

>>2432042
“the conventionality of knowing how to fight to politics given that it’s the legally hardest thing to get into trouble over”

post-USSR Russian martial arts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systema

books:
https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=149128172

https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=149894380
>"While the Russian martial arts are not a hybrid, they are heavily influenced by the martial arts of many cultures. Russia is an enormous country with a huge border that was challenged by a long history of invasion and occupation. Between the 13th and 15th centuries alone, the country endured more than 160 wars. Consequently, the Russians were constantly exposed to exotic weapons and strategies. The massive variety of geography inside Russia also meant that tactics needed to be adaptable to changing conditions, and that’s a big part of why the traditional Russian martial arts are so free and playful."
"Your lack of whimsy is pathetic" - old Russian martial artist scolding a young thug
>"After the Russian Revolution in 1917, the global climate shifted dramatically. The days of the world being dominated by conflicts between nation-states gave rise to conflicts between ideologies. It began with wars between fascism, communism, and liberal democracy. During the Cold War, these ideologies were embodied by the leading superpowers, which set the stage for the world that we live in today. That conflict was also the forge that refined the Russian martial arts into their modern form. In anticipation of global warfare, the Soviet government commissioned combat researchers to travel throughout the world to study different approaches. They tested these methods an integrated the best concepts with their own native traditions. This period of development led to the creation of distinct Soviet martial arts, including Sport Sambo, Combat Sambo, and Samoz, which was later modified and became known simply as Systema (literally “the System”). After the fall of the Soviet Union, ex-soldiers began migrating throughout the world, slowly spreading these approaches."

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does anyone here have tech skills?



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Namecels and flagtards edition


Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

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>>2382418
I can type those things. Over a vpn *sad noises*

Can the revolution start already so I can die a glorious death as a martyr for the people?

>>2383334
Nice to see burgeroid leftists have an easier time recuperating the JQ than critiquing the American Empire in any real way

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>>2383446
sandi and his friends from pol who always visit at the same time as him are very interested in this btw. pay attention in any thread. if there is glownonymous or nazi flags, and sandi doesn't critique them, while accusing actual communists and and anti-zionists of being "zogbots" he's hard at work with his and shitcord 4cuck buddies, raiding

>>2432236
This has to have something to do with the thing that isn't happening in Washington



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<"Roofer In Chief" Edition


Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka

🏈 💵 🌭 🍔

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md

📺 Live News 📺
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>>2419946
ngl the venn diagram of struggling average joes and mass shooters has a pretty small overlap they're almost always somesort of /pol/ack reactionary with labor aristocrat/petty boug backround. They literally live a better life in terms of living standards,free time and opportunities than most of there countrymen and most of the planet and still choose to go mow down civilians in public spaces.

>>2420160
yes exactly. normies have 0% chance of "snapping" like these untermenschen do

>>2420152
>changed
pretty sure i still have to go to work

>>2418208
Today our paper tigers are made of tin.

Fucking wish mods would permanently bumplock dead old threads like this.



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Socialism in One Country is a theory mostly associated with the Soviet leader Joseph Stalin whose government adopted it as official policy. However the theory was heavily based on the writings of Soviet revolutionary leader V.I. Lenin.

Socialism in One Country proposes that it is possible to build Socialism ("complete socialist society") even in a single country, and even a poor less-developed one or a third world country. This went against the view held by dogmatists, trotskyists and other opportunists that socialism was possible only in wealthy industrial countries and only if established simultaneously in several of them. The dogmatist view was a vulgarization of Marxism & didn’t correspond to the material realities of the world in the epoch of global imperialism.

Trotskyists and many other opportunist groupings vehemently deny that Lenin supported the theory of Socialism in One Country. Examining this issue is the main focus of the latter portion of this article.

Internationalism
Often times opportunists make the claim that Socialism in One Country goes against Proletarian internationalism or abandons the aim of World Revolution.

Trotsky claimed in his book The Permanent Revolution that Socialism in One Country:
…makes a breach between the national revolution and the international revolution.

This couldn’t be further from the truth. Socialism in One Country is a tactic to achieve those internationalist ends and history has proven it to be successful in it, since the Soviet Union actually managed to help many other revolutionary governments take power and spread Socialism to many other countries in all parts of the world.

…the victory of socialism is possible in separate countries, thus envisaging the prospect of the formation of two parallel centres of attraction; the centre of world capitalism and the centre of world socialism.
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>>2430579
See this is why I hate Trotskyists as a transhumanist. They're always shit on the national question and they extend the same attitude to minorities within their own countries.

Basically, Trotskyists were the original new securo-feminists who hate the "barbaric" countryside and lumpen.

If you don't have the right position on the town and countryside contradiction and a hatred of both capitalism and the remnants of feudalism then you'll never get anywhere.

>>2431138
I'm not a Trotskyist but peasants not being humans is a basic Boleshvik position if you're familiar with their history

>>2431144
That's not a Bolshevik position at all

>>2431144
lenin was allied with the peasants

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How does the phrase "he who does not work shall not eat" apply to people who realistically can't do any meaningful work i.e. severally mentally handicapped etc.? Are they just left to starve?
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>from each according to ability

>>2387265
That was just a rhetoric bro. Le lenin was quoting le bible to a majority rushan peasants, or something

>understanding the class struggle through sloganeering
its terminal

<what if the hypothetical "communist society" of the future will base itself around sloganeering
cool thread moron

>>2387265
Communism will have superabundance so disabled people can be supported as they're always a minority of an minority so they wouldn't be a burden in any realistic sense



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