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Today begins the presidential and legislative election of the Central American of Honduras. With the left-wing Libre party, wish wishes to change the constitution to an anti-neolib and democratic socialist stance, at odds with the liberal and social conservative neoliberal bloc.
Whilst this is happening, Trump has pardoned a former Honduran president convicted of drug trafficking offences whilst going off about how conveniently the whole Venezuelan military high command is full of alleged drug traffickers. Honduras is of considerable strategic importance to the United States. With several U.S. Army bases situated there. Trump has also gone off about how the electorate must vote away from the Libre "communists" and vote anyone else.
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>>2578974
many such cases (actually all such cases)

Election protests in Honduras as Congress panel vows not to validate result

Officials of a Honduras Congress panel threatened on Wednesday not to validate the result of a Nov. 30 presidential election, citing an "electoral coup" and "interference" by U.S. President Donald Trump, as counting stretched into an 11th day.

While the ruling LIBRE leftist party has no chance of winning the election, it is throwing its support behind Salvador Nasralla, of the center-right Liberal party, who has also alleged fraud and said he has won the election.
It is unclear if Wednesday's declaration by the permanent commission of Congress, which escalates the election crisis, could be enough to annul the results, which must be validated by two of the three members of the National Electoral Council.

With more than 99% of ballots counted, conservative Nasry Asfura of the National Party was about 40,000 votes ahead of Nasralla of the Liberal Party, while LIBRE candidate Rixi Moncada was a distant third.
But inconsistencies in roughly 15% of the tally sheets require further review, heightening the political suspense, as those could be sufficient to sway the election outcome.

<could honduras become the 1st country to defy the us under trump?


More audio recordings have leaked implying election fraud

>Honduran president Xiomara Castro announces that she will denounce an alleged "electoral coup" to the UN, the OAS, and the EU, accusing U.S. president Donald Trump of "interference."



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Revolution almost always requires a brutal civil war so that a new society emerges from it. But the ideal of a new society never emerges immadietly after. We see it with the french revolution, and then the russian revolution. The american revolution seems like an exemption from this. Why is that?
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>>2553950
>There isn't much of a question of "what is to be done" or executing loyalists en masse or what have you because the loyalists could just fuck off to Canada and the Patriots who could risk turning on the revolution could be bribed with further expansion.

This is true but honestly when it comes to the American revolution people do downplay the violence between Patriots and Loyalists more than they think due to a lot of American Historians wanting to make it out like the US was the best kind of compromise while the French Revolution "went too far" even though there were a lot of lynchings and land seizures of Loyalists. In fact, the word "lynch" comes from the judge Charles Lynch who went out and did extrajudicial violence against the Loyalists at the time.

While the American Revolution wasn't that revolutionary it was much more violent and would have been much more like being in a Civil War at the time then modern people realize due to how it's been written about by historians. In fact, there's a good argument it has a lot more in common with the English Civil War then many people realize.

>>2561210
*true to an extent

>>2554983
So why does the left never talk about "socialized relations of production" being dominant and held back by a reactionary capitalist class?

If those relations don't exist then communism isn't possible and the question of revolution/civil war is irrelevant.

Revolution is dialectical way for accumulated (quantitative) changes to shift to new quality, so if anything doesn't happen then was no material foundation for it

>>2553637
With mass surveillence and predictive AI revolutions become impossible. Even in 3rd world they can ask assist from imperial core to give a list of potential troublemakers. Mesnwhile proles are celebrating this as crime rates go down.



 

Nobody cares about "revisionism". Nobody cares if you think socialism ended in the USSR in 1953 or whatever. Nobody cares about your position on debates and splits that took place decades before they were born. What people *do* care about is that socialism and can solve the problems that face them, like poverty and colonialism. I've seen people here ridicule the notion that socialism is helping people but there is really no other way to build power. People did not follow Lenin because he had the right ideas but because the Bolsheviks were the only conceivable solution that didn't end in what would later be known as fascism. Why does the CPC have near-universal approval in China? Because their system works and it provides for the people. Almost nobody there wants to return to the days of the Cultural Revolution. And where is anti-revisionist cause celebre Albania today? Now just another NATO puppet state. The entire concept of "anti-revisionism" is anti-materialist because it puts ideas before people. It doesn't matter if you have the right ideas because Marxism was never about having the right ideas. What matters is having the right practice. Here's another truke: If your system can be undone by a single bad actor with mere decrees, then maybe it was useless and was never going to make it in the first place.
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You have just a backwards, unscientific ideology. Nothing you do will amount to anything. You are not Marxists.

>>2532098
>nObOdy cArEs
it is sufficient to say "i don't care about X" but even that is not worth saying at all because it adds nothing. narcissists always have to pretend their personal dumbass opinion is universal which is why why they'll bludgeon you with "nObOdy cArEs" instead of just quietly moving on from subjects which do not interest them

>>2559014
Kamala stans make the exact faggot argument OP did
Your mum should kill herself

What do you determine is useful information and what's not? That's the more important question. Until we talk about that it will be endless shitflinging between the two extremes.

>>2559451
>What do you determine is useful information and what's not?
Emprical evidence of it working in real life or not.



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Interested to see if we have any contrarians here who can explain why the RSF is good and anti-imperialist actually. They're secular and portrayed as the bad guys in western media, so they're probably the good guys?
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So this is the multipolarity that was promised

The UAE's strategy is to create interdependence on global, often conflicting power players in order to carve out its little colonialist enterprises in Africa and Yemen. So they submit to US military dominance in the gulf, help Russia avoid sanctions and just signed a new trade deal with China. They also offer a safe haven for oligarch money. This way they can fund this arab supremacist, genocidal RSF and no one tells them to stop

>>2584404
60 000 dead 150 000 missing.

South Sudan army moves into Heglig after ‘tripartite deal’

South Sudanese troops have entered the Heglig oil field in West Kordofan after an agreement with Sudan’s warring parties. The field processes some 130,000 barrels of South Sudanese crude for export via pipelines in Sudan.

The deal requires both Sudanese parties to withdraw from the field and allows South Sudanese forces to protect oil installations to prevent sabotage, Nang said. The aim is to “completely neutralise” the area from combat as battles intensify across the Kordofan region.

South Sudanese troops will not participate in any military operations inside Sudan and will maintain strict neutrality, he stressed, adding the SSPDF’s mandate is limited to securing oil infrastructure vital to both countries’ economies.

The deployment follows the RSF’s takeover of the strategic site on Monday, which forced SAF units to retreat across the border into South Sudan, where they surrendered their weapons.

Economist Wael Fahmy told Radio Dabanga that the RSF’s capture of Heglig is significant but will have limited economic effect. Revenues from the sector have become marginal and “consequently, oil is no longer a vital resource for domestic consumption for the government.”

Heglig’s production has fallen from 65,000 barrels per day to around 20,000 since fighting between SAF and the RSF escalated in April 2023. As reported by Dabanga yesterday, the China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) withdrew from Sudan after three decades, citing deteriorating security in the West Kordofan fields.

https://www.dabangasudan.org/en/all-news/article/south-sudan-army-moves-into-heglig-after-tripartite-deal
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Aren't they committing a genocide right now?



 

How will the drop in students and workers coming from south asia and china affect american economy? Everybody knows not enough Americans study medicine to be able to fulfill the need for doctors in USA. How else will it affect usa? Could it end up being good for the global left in the long term if it leads to a chronic crisis and loss of faith in capitalism?
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>>2597534
The masses of Africans and Latinos trying to enter America can certainly make up for any loss in laborers caused by the drop in Asians, but EDUCATED ones(as in actually important stuff like engineering and medicine) is a different story. I'm pretty sure all the valuable educated ones are already entering America, so there isn't any "surplus" of them to fill this deficit. Basically, America is screwed long term because their education system is ass and mostly produces high school dropouts, financiers, lawyers, and other such useless-to-the-tech-race-against-China people.

>>2600802
No I did not mean blacks and latinos trying to enter the USA. I mean those already in the USA. Finally the educated blacks and latinos will be given attention for these 'educated' jobs. Life will go on.

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>the US losing educated professionals somehow will benefit le "global left"
why should a proletarian from literally any country even give a SINGLE fuck about this?

>>2600823
>Finally the educated blacks and latinos will be given attention for these 'educated' jobs.
Lol, African American and Latin communities will be continually underfunded and ignored. Short sighted oligarchs in the US see no reason to replace the brain drain happening. The US will continue limping along losing doctors, engineers and other highly educated workers until no more wealth can be extracted short term and it collapses in on itself.

>>2600823
>>2600828
<yassss support black small businesses
communism isnt about helping integrate this or that group into proper bourgeois society (and they already are, anyway)



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Enough is enough. Every 6 months or so one of these 764/nazi larper guys murders innocent people. No major news sources report on the obvious link here. They all dress the same, wear the same symbols, are equally retarded and are a threat to society. We need to prevent these guys but idk how. Does anyone know how we can get into contact with journalists or some shit to actually talk about this issue.
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>>2600185
Well it goes both ways. Think different glowie agencies try to weaponize people, and they do it because others do it to them, and the guys sub-contracted out by these governments also work different sides which causes the whole thing to get even more hopelessly confused.

One of these neo-Nazi wicca fash accelerationist groups in the U.S. was organized by an American who decamped to Russia and now has Russian citizenship. He was also a DSA member (!) at one point while at school in New Jersey. And also working as a contractor for the Virginia-based "Omega Solutions International" which billed intself as a "security consulting firm … specializing in command, control, and intelligence (C2I) for homeland security, counterterrorism, and counterinsurgency missions at every echelon" who made trips to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Strikes me as a rather mercenary type. He goes by "Aldo Condottiero" on LinkedIn btw (look up what "Condottiero" means). Like yeah it was Russia doing this but it was through this sub-contractor which is often how this kind of thing is organized.

>>2599983
he sounds like a pure internet brainrotted guy who decked himself out with references to western internet rw culture. I guess Putin's fault is that he didn't cut the internet completely

>>2600300
That's where Xi is clearly superior to Putin. The People's Great Firewall must be made even more restrictive to prevent American misanthropic degeneracy creeping in.

>>2600088
Yeah but they weren't nearly as annoying. At least the cho/lanza types somewhat make sense as sadists these dudes think they're saving western civilization and shit because some guy on discord told them that makes sense. There's a difference between organic violence and retarded kids being tricked into murdering people by nazis

>>2599983
764 and the other satanist/esotericist neo nazi LARP groups were spawned in the West and most of the attacks have happened in the West. This is probably why Russia is shilling MAX and moving to ban international/foreign social media, they're a medium in which American glow-ops like 764 often leak over to terminally online Russian teens.



 

Serbian president threatens reprisals after plans for Belgrade Trump Tower thwarted
In a rare setback for the Trump family’s global moneymaking campaign, the $500m development was abandoned after Monday’s indictment of a Serbian minister on suspicion of abusing his office to support the project. “We have lost an exceptional investment,” Aleksandar Vučić, Serbia’s embattled president, said on Tuesday. “I will personally ensure that everyone who participated in causing this damage is held accountable.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/16/eu-to-regulate-short-term-rentals-in-plan-to-tackle-affordable-homes-shortage

VW stops production at German site for first time
Though that deal ruled out compulsory redundancies, IG Metall union official Stefan Ehly told AFP that he thought Volkswagen would have major difficulties ensuring that all employees could keep working at the Dresden site. "Stopping production was agreed," he said. "But it was also agreed that there would be a plan for the site, guaranteeing employment for all who work there. And that just hasn't happened."
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20251216-vw-stops-production-at-german-site-for-first-time
https://archive.ph/UHHpg

Young people hardest hit as unemployment rises to 5.1%
The rate in the three months to October is the highest since early 2016 excluding the Covid era. Office for National Statistics (ONS) data found unemployment rose by 85,000 among 18 to 24-year-olds over the period — the biggest increase since November 2022.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/young-people-hardest-hit-unemployment-rises-51

‘No water, no life’: Iraq’s Tigris River in danger of disappearing
The river has also dramatically shrunk in volume. In the past 30 years, Turkey has built major dams on the Tigris and the amount ofPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

TYBNA

Now caribbean Indians are cucking out.

Trump expands travel ban to Syrians, Palestinians and others
The Trump administration instituted full restrictions and entry limitations against Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger, South Sudan, and Syria, as well as people with travel documents issued by the Palestinian Authority. Trump expanded restrictions from partial to full against Laos and Sierra Leone.
https://www.axios.com/2025/12/16/trump-travel-ban-expanded-december
https://archive.ph/7IMng

House Republican leaders ditch vote on ACA funding, all but ensuring premiums will rise
“I am pissed for the American people. This is absolute bulls—, and it’s absurd,” Lawler said Tuesday. “Everybody has a responsibility to serve their district, to serve their constituents. You know what’s funny? Three-quarters of people on Obamacare are in states Donald Trump won. So maybe, just maybe, everybody should look at this and say, ‘How do we actually fix the health care system?’”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-ditch-vote-obamacare-funding-premiums-rise-2026-rcna249521

US will not release full Venezuela boat strike video, Hegseth says
Hegseth and Secretary of State Marco Rubio conducted briefings on Tuesday for every member of the Senate and House of Representatives, responding to lawmakers' demands for more information about a 3-1/2-month campaign of more than 20 strikes against boats in the Caribbean and Pacific that have killed more than 80 people.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-not-planning-release-unedited-boat-strike-video-public-hegseth-says-2025-12-16/

ICE agents call for backup during Minneapolis traffic stop, bystanders hurl insults and snowballs
Observers said the officers were attempting to arrest a woman in a traffic stop north of Lake Street and Pillsbury Avenue at about 1 p.m. Video shared with MPR News shows agePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Hugo Chávez and the Venezuelan Revolution
Venezuela’s Bolivarian Revolution was a watershed moment in the history of the class struggle. It was a ray of light in the dark years following the collapse of Stalinism. Long before the 2008 crisis, Occupy, BLM, or the rise of Sanders or Mamdani, it gave credibility to anti-capitalism, anti-imperialism, and socialism. Hugo Chávez embodied the revolution and expressed the aspirations of the poor masses worldwide. The potential for a regional socialist revolution was evident. Had it succeeded, the planet would be a very different place. Instead of hundreds of thousands of desperate Venezuelan refugees fleeing into the US, the socialist revolution would have spread like wildfire across the border. The terrible conditions and heightened imperialist bullying that Venezuelans suffer today are a direct consequence of the revolution’s failure. It is a law of history: the price for not taking the socialist revolution to its conclusion is reaction and counterrevolution. Incredibly, many so-called Marxists claim it was never a revolution in the first place. But anyone who has watched The Revolution Will Not Be Televised will have seen the will to sacrifice and spiritual uplift expressed by the humblest layers of Venezuelan society. This is precisely what it looks like when the masses enter the stage of history, seize their destinies in their hands, and storm heaven.
https://marxist.com/hugo-chavez-and-the-venezuelan-revolution.htm

When the Left manages capitalism, the far right takes power: Lessons from Latin America
Boric’s presidency was born out of the massive social uprising of 2019 and the widespread demand for dignity, social rights, and an end to the Pinochet-era economic model. Yet, despite the radical language and the participation of the Communist Party of Chile in government, the core structures of Chilean capitalism remained untouched. Privatised public services, job insecurity, high living costs, and social inequality continued to shape everyday life for millions. Over time, the gap between expectations and reality became impossible to ignore. Kast capitalised on this frustration. His campaign centred on “law and order,” fear of crime, and hostility toward migrants — classic themes of the contemporary far right. At the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thanks News Anon



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What is adventurism and what isn't?

I feel like MLs like throwing this word around a lot but never give clear defintions.
Why do statists think it's okay for the state to commit mass violence daily, but when a indiviual commits violence against that apparatus somehow they are "adventurist" or in the wrong, like do you seriously expect the ruling class to just give up?

Even if the attacks further oppresion temporarily wouldn't that still make the social conditions for revolutions to increase? Even if it takes decades as it did in Russia.
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>>2599516
Yeah, there were letters from AQ leadership that showed that they were genuinely caught with their pants down when Amerikkka invaded Afghanistan. AQ genuinely believed that cuz American society is so decadent they'd just keel over and die.

It's kinda ironic for Bin Laden to believe this tbh. Because the Arab Caliphates at least in the latter stages was precisely like America today, where there were decadent higher class and a largely demoralized underclass, but the Abbasid was able to crush everyone left and right because they relied on a professional military class separate from the civilians much like the US today

>>2599205
We need to understand that before Oct 7 happened Israel was on the verge of normalization of Saudi Arabia who planned to make a trade route with Israel and circumventing Gaza. This is why they were constantly making noises even before Oct 7, to draw attention back and get Hamas a seat in the table of the regional power dealing.
And you know what, they won this shit. Palestine is now an inseparable fact from Middle Eastern geopolitical reality. And even if Iran and Hezbollah collapses tomorrow Hamas can now just ask for patronage from Turkey because now every Muslim president can get immense prestige and piety points just from donating to Hamas. While conversely Israeli donors now cant afford to donate to the Zionists without getting shame in their face. This is a complete strategic win for Hamas

Was january 6th adventurist

>>2599004
No. That was an attack on another state by a nationalist militia. Even if you think strategically it was a blunder it did actually change the military and political status quo in the region.

Adventurism would be that guy who shot the Zionist diplos. They were replaced before even their funeral. There was no impact on the Zionist operation, and someone who could have been useful cadre will spend their life in prison.

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>rogue individual activism OR "adventurism" doesn't lead to anyth–



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Literally zero people have read Bukharin. Outside of a couple of rather pointless works that anyone could have cobbled together, most of his crap remains untranslated. I've read his pieces on SOIC, and it's the most pathetic shit ever. I say you can trace how consistent he is with most of his works on the subject of socialism in Russia alone, but he makes the case himself. He was a cowardly neurotic who couldn't sit through meetings and sided with Stalin to protect his little fiefdom.
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bukharin won, stalin lost

>>2599187
>bukharin was right but he also did nothing about it even though the fate of the first socialist state was at stake
that just makes him look worse

Also, buharin was a vulgar mechanical materialist and didn't understand dialectics so he was cringe

>>2599104
Leftypol didn’t exist back then, execution was the only way to prove you’d won an argument

>>2599228
Do you understand dialectics? Explain this diagram.

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Hello, new user here so please excuse my naivety or possible ignorance.

As I've spent the past few months trying to research history and further define my own political identity, I've fallen down a rabbit-hole from mainstream social media platforms to smaller imageboards (such as this one, which has particularly interested me!).

I was hoping to hear some of your own conclusions as to why it's so much more common to see people fall for right-wing pipelines and propaganda, and whether or not it makes them stupid or just gullible. I started to research niche right-wing online communities (which I will avoid mentioning by name) and have noticed their significant influence despite their small size, and their sheer output of content.

My theory is that right-wing politics provide short, simple answers to complicated issues. Because of that, it's easy to build a community that produces content which mocks people who provide answers that can't be explained in a single paragraph. Also the fact that this content is played off as simply a joke or absurdist humor rather than legitimate propaganda.

Again, sorry if this sounds dumb or has an obvious answer!
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>>2557837
>hey gay nazi poster whats your take on douglas murray? how would you classify him as a right wing gay in politics?
Hey sorry, I missed this but, yeah I think so. Neocon. I'd describe him as a neocon.

He wants to be Christopher Hitchens except Hitchens wasn't a Zionist (he never went that far). He very clearly is trying to model himself after Hitchens. He's a particularly English type of right-wing gay. What he has working for him is a very well patented "style." I can't explain it but his method works to lull people into a certain mindset, and he has certain tricks, some of which he directly lifted off of Hitchens. It's in the intonation of the voice and certain tropes, like he went to Israel to pose for photos somewhere in Gaza, but he wasn't in any real danger. Then he'd criticize people who don't like Israel by saying that ~he actually went there~ and he's old-fashioned like that, as if that gives him some special insight (this is bullshit for several reasons I can go into).

He will name-drop people which makes his audience feel sophisticated. When talking about antisemitism he will quote Vasily Grossman (who served in the Red Army during World War II btw), and Grossman did have real insights on it. Grossman was not wrong about what he said. But Murray will redirect this towards support for Israel and I don't know what Grossman would think about that. At any rate I think the average Douglas Murray fan is mroe affluent. The opera-house crowd I think. There's a Sam Kriss article about him that's pretty good:
https://samkriss.substack.com/p/douglas-murray-gruesome-toady

But I would say this brand of neoconservative can be attractive to gay men because it's articulated within this framework of liberalism and the European Enlightenment which has been (they argue) beneficial for you.

>>2594853
Thanks for the response.
I’d never made the link that Murray is trying to copy Hitchens, but it makes perfect sense. He has the plummy public school accent so beloved by people. Even Brits fall for it all the time (see Jacob Rees-Moggs, a fake aristocrat, but wear a monocle and top hat and a copy of the FT, and some people go gaga, and it’s not even people you expect)

hitchens anti zionism is very interesting because on the one hand it's quite logical (Zionists get mocked all the time for mocking religion, but suddenly believe the Bible when it comes to land claims), but doesn't really seem to fit in with the rest of the New Atheists, or neocons who were rabid supporters of the Israel project? I wonder if his stance on Israel would have changed over time had he lived?
Would he increasingly see Tehran as an overarching threat? The increasingly role of religion in the Palestinian resistance? The rise of isis in the Syrian war?

>>2593507
>if you try to question right wingers about their beliefs, and i mean, really interrogate them, don't give them any breathing room, you'll realize that most of the are really just nihilists.
trvke

>>2557849
You're right with this, the left has always been terrible at extending it's reach. They just keep getting into splinters.

>>2558139
Baby boilers in a nutshell, much of the further left resemble a cult, while right wingers give the image of a "unifying" team, so even barely right wing people start getting into it.



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