/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>When AI replaces 50% of the workforce by the end of the decade
I am once again asking anons to read the chapter on machines in vol I: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch15.htm

>>2521233

what if machines consume and also build machines

>>2521009
>>2521079
>well i mean you do need things to get bad, or at least substantially worse than the normal for things to actually start happening, organization really only matters if there's anything actually going on, as you'll learn from a good few historical examples

See things have been getting bad for a while now. I mean talking about my own family, my grandfather was a manager for Sears back in the day and could afford a home in a good neighborhood, a wife that could stay at home, three kids, vacations, and a really cozy retirement. My dad is a manager in a grocery store and could afford a house near "the ghetto" and two kids with my mom having to work to support us, and even then the house is showing its age and needs repairs.

I work in a grocery store and can afford to rent.

Things have gotten worse for a substantial number of people. Though I suspect part of the problem is we engage in this Steven Pinker line of thinking where we fallaciously compare the economy of today to underdeveloped economies of yesterday: "Oh you think this is bad? Well did you know that a century ago you would've been an illiterate dirt farmer?!"

Shit if I remember right, Lenin thought Communists should be organizing always, in good conditions and in bad ones. But I think it's something curious to the American political imagination where we only perceive political change coming from a general collapse. Wait for the old system to just kill over, revert back to the Wild West, then as the old saying goes "MY civilization will emerge from the ashes!"

Like fucking Ayn Rand of all people thought the state collapsing would give libertarians carte blanche to build their utopia. So I don't believe the poor state we find ourselves in is a matter of "conditions not being right" or some inherent failure on the part of the people. I think its on us. I believe we have to take responsibility for the state of the Left here. And we need to figure out better strategies for actually organizing people in real life.

I know this is gonna piss people off, but I was reading a bunch of articles on Trump and the rise of nationalism globally. The more explicitly lefty ones repeated this mantra: "The ONLY way tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2521318
>So I don't believe the poor state we find ourselves in is a matter of "conditions not being right"
it is at least partially the cause
>What does "defeating Trump's nationalism with international proletarian solidarity" mean?
i think the problem is they assume intuitively that you do know, because what i think they mean is "go connect people to struggles abroad and inform people to reject chauvinist nationalism" which is all well and good but that's a pretty tall order, one that even a fairly well organized group would have to do at the micro-level to even have an effect, the problem is that there is effectively no strategy book, or anything like it published, and if there is one it's gonna get attacked by sectarians for not fitting their favorite 20th century institution, but on the point i made about "things are gonna have to get a lot worse than the normal for things to start happening", i think the problem CPUSAnon is that for the most part, things haven't really gotten much worse than the "Normal" since the "Normal" is shit for most, but for the most part it isn't a condition prone to riot, protest? maybe but it's rare that protests cause mass movements to attempt to seize power, it's not exactly an exaggeration that homelessness would need to climb astronomically, starvation would need to be a serious threat, and other horrific things for things to even have a chance at actually changing. and that is incredibly depressing although true

>>2521247
we already have that. they're called industrial robots

Majority of special education staff in US education department laid off – report
Friday’s total of 466 layoffs across the education department also impacted the Office of Special Education and Rehabilitative Services, which oversees programs that support millions of children and adults with disabilities nationwide, according to sources speaking to various outlets.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/13/special-education-department-layoffs

CDC purge hits 600 workers in key offices despite reversals
The cuts have hit offices including the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, the National Center for Health Statistics and the CDC's Washington office, which is the channel for communications with Congress, sources said. Also hit was the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, which supports Kennedy's "Make America Healthy Again" initiative, and an ethics office that reviews conflicts of interest, Debra Houry, who recently resigned as the agency's chief medical officer, told Axios.
https://www.axios.com/2025/10/13/trump-kennedy-cdc-firings-rehirings
https://archive.ph/YBTdo

Another Arizona mobile home park sued for ‘deadly’ conditions, pressure mounts for change
Mayes filed a consumer fraud lawsuit against Palo Verde Mobile Home Park, LLC; Landon Asset Management, LLC, the owner of 18 homes at the park; and Landon Management Services PC, the property company managing the park, according to a state attorney general announcement Thursday. The suit alleges the businesses failed to inform residents that the park’s “electrical system was extremely dangerous, unreliable, and overloaded.”
https://apnews.com/article/lawsuits-kris-mayes-arizona-legal-proceedings-general-news-b647c92328888c9b670669e5f31009bc

Missouri governor launches attack on SNAP recipients under guise of “nutrition reform”
MissoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Episode 496: Money for Nothing (TrueAnon)
Jacob Silverman is back to walk us through the absurd levels of crypto corruption in the White House and his new book Gilded Rage: Elon Musk and the Radicalization of Silicon Valley.
https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/episode-496-money-for-nothing

Madagascar: army splits and president flees – the mass movement has won a first victory
Events have developed at lightning speed over the weekend in Madagascar. The mass youth movement, which started on 25 September, has now overthrown the old regime. A section of the army refused to continue carrying out repression against the masses and mutinied. The president had to be airlifted by the French military on Sunday, 12 October. The spark for the movement was the constant electricity cut-offs, which make daily life very difficult. But that was just the most striking symptom of a deep malaise against corruption, the obscene contrast between the wealth of those at the top (including prominent businessmen close to the president) and the dire conditions of the masses on an island where 79 percent live under the poverty line. What started as a peaceful protest movement by the student youth, partly inspired by the GenZ revolutions in Indonesia and Nepal, became a national uprising after the regime of President Rajoelina used brutal repression against the demonstrators, leaving at least 25 dead. As repression did not cow the youth, the regime attempted concessions, dismissing the government and then appointing a new prime minister. It was too little too late. The aim of the movement had become the overthrow of the whole bloody regime. …
https://marxist.com/madagascar-army-splits-and-president-flees-the-mass-movement-has-won-a-first-victory.htm

闯 Chuang: Keeping Each Other Afloat, Pt. 2 – Young Workers: “Swallowing our Wretched Shares”
Due to changes in statistical methodology, the youth unemployment rate data in 2024 cannot be directly compared with previous years. However, according to Zhaopin’s “2024 College Graduates Employment Survey,” the rate of job offers for those with a master’sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Thank you news anon. Lots of US news tho.

No

purge

I would admit that the Leftcoms are right and then immediately get assassinated

Build more Gulags

That's like asking how do you stop a tsunami

>how could the soviet republics have managed to keep unity and rivalize with the west whilst maintaining an image of a viable alternative to normal people from the 1980s-onwards ?
Essentially follow the plan that Andropov had laid down and it could've worked.
The big problems that the USSR faced was that it had a chronic shortage of goods, inneficient and bloated labor, and nepotic officials. Solving this was a prerequisite, whatever your ideas may be. To that effect, I think a two-fold solution would've been adapted to succesfully enable a return of soviet-ism as a viable model :

>modernization, rejunevation of the party, and better accounting.
The nomenklatura would've been purged, at the expense of political stability. The ambition would be to ally with the army and the with the KGB to purge party members and replace them with new and more cooperative ones. This line would've extended to nepotic officials too and would've essentially achieved the capacity to actually enable reforms. Following this internal purge, the nomenklatura should've pushed to cater to consumer goods. A retreat from afghanistan and a drastic reduction in military investments should be made to ensure proper funds for the public and a consolidation of a solid consumer base. This also means adopting greater cybernetics to succesfully dispose of calculation potential to adequatly plan the economy. Local managers would've gotten more leeway in firing and hiring workers, whilst also seeing the very real threat of being fired from their public offices if the results they showed were underwhelming and inconsistent. Ideally, the funds serving for the army would be diverted into funding information loops through technology from the stores to the companies charged with production. The firms would transition from a gosplan/ministry-imposed material balance to shops telling which firm what to produce to make a profit or balance even.

>step 2 : succesfully expanding the economic reforms to catch up with Europe
If we take for granted that the previous reform had worked in rejunevating the consumer base in the USSR, a second part would be established to not lag behind western economies but actually compete with them. Imo, this could be done through market mechanisms, supply side innovation, and planning mechanisms. The idea would to split enterprises producing for the markPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2515865
>There is no easy way to scale the Web 3.0 model to billions of users and circumvent massive ethical, legal, technical, and economic challenges that arise from that. Heck, the West was probably only able to scale its social media models to 100s of millions of users only because the rise of the Internet and social media had coinceded with liberal-capitalist post-Cold War triumph.
Aside from the ethical which was never a concern to the people who can actually affect this, what exactly about these problems has changed in the past few years that they're suddenly insurmountable?

>>2517683
You have to consider that as an early adopter you have a vision of the good version of the Internet that most people don't.
Also, the current Internet is like this on purpose, all the bad things about it are deliberate to maximize engagement, do we really think everyone will just get over it eventually apropos of nothing?
This is an inherently cringe thing to say but the current relationship of many (not confident about saying most) people to the Internet/phones is a public health issue and should be seen as not dissimilar to drugs, sugar and other unhealthy habit. There's decent proof that phone addiction is real and bad for your health. Now, drug addiction isn't exactly a solved problem socially either, but acknowledging it is a necessary first step for doing anything about it.

>>2515878
>You can't put all the world's information in one one book. The bigger the book gets, the worse the signal to noise ratio becomes, the more impossible it becomes to read it.
I was just reading about this:
<Subsurface crystal engraving for data storage is a "5D" technology that uses a femtosecond laser to write data into nanostructured quartz glass, storing information in five dimensions: the three physical dimensions of height, width, and depth, plus two more from the nanostructuring. This method allows for a high-capacity (up to 360 TB) and incredibly durable storage solution that can last for billions of years, making it ideal for archiving humanity's knowledge. The process uses specialized lasers to create microscopic structures within the glass, which are then read back by a specialized device to retrieve the data.
<Unlike conventional 2D media like CDs, 5D storage uses the three spatial dimensions, along with two additional dimensions derived from the size, orientation, and position of nanostructures created by the laser.
<A femtosecond laser, emitting incredibly short pulses of light (280 femtoseconds), is used to create these nanostructures inside the quartz glass.
<A separate process is used to decode the data from the glass by reading the stored information from the nanostructure patterns.
<Researchers estimate a single 5-inch crystal disc could hold up to 360 terabytes of data.
<The storage medium is extremely resilient, able to withstand temperatures up to 1,000 degrees Celsius and having a "virtually unlimited lifetime" at room temperature.
<The technology is seen as a way to preserve humanity's knowledge, history, and culture for billions of years, far outlasting current storage methods.
<Its durability makes it a potential safeguard against natural disasters or other threats that could destroy digital or physical records.
<It can serve as a robust time capsule for future civilizations, ensuring that the last evidence of our civilization will notPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2520555

As someone who used the internet since like the late 90s/early 2000s, I don't know if i would go as far to say that it used to be "good" but it definitely wasn't as bad as it is now in terms of centralization and commercialization and overall sleaze. But these problems were all there from day one, people seem to forget that. Like before Google there were a few search engines people used, Altavista or Lycos or Yahoo or one of those "web portals" which were always blanketed with ads and clickbait bullshit to the point of almost being unusable. And without them there was no way to really find anything, people tend to forget that too. You can have all the world's information on the internet but if there's no point of entry, no index, then all the information is just useless noise, tv static.

Things like the internet and the web really need to be treated as public infrastructure and not as a business. Search should have been treated as an integral part of the internet infrastructure from day one, with some national or international consortium dedicated to indexing the web and maintaining a public index of every known website and link with some pagerank-like relevance algorithm to make it useful. There's nothing that says the public-sector could not have accomplished what Google did. We've seen services like Wikipedia and Archive.org and know that people can build useful things on the internet without a multibillion dollar profit motive. Companies could have still started their own private for-profit search engines but at least they wouldn't own the entire fucking internet.

>>2520780
yes just internet search for the title

>>2520796

Didn't Castro abandon the revolution to become a dictator

>>2503856
The USA's dissolution might end up being similar to the fall of Spanish america where a war cuts off the head (Napoleon in Spain's case, nukes in America's case) and as a result since the structure has no real foundations below it like China it'll fall to pieces.

>>2521325
Unlike* China

>>2521321
Irrelevant to the conservation, whether ​​Castro's betrayed the Ideal of the revolution has no baring on the fact that Batista's Cuba was a deeply corrupt and divided country, where large parts of the capital were run by literal mafia members, others by American companies, while Batista purged Army officers he believed were undermining him. Had Batista been in any way competent, the revolution would have failed.

he writes it here:
>Since all commodities are merely particular equivalents of money, the latter being their universal equivalent, they, with regard to the latter as the universal commodity, play the parts of particular commodities.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch02.htm

It's cause the point of money is you can buy stuff with it I think

It's in like the first few chapters of Capital. Money is the universal commodity, because it is the commodity that other particular commodities are exchanged into to in turn be exchanged for another particular commodity

This is reminding me to continue reading Capital Volume 2 because there was something about money being different types of capital or something in the first chapter (I need to properly read this..)

>>2521035
the capital process (M-C-M')
begins with money-capital (M-M')
which joins to productive capital (P) = (LP) + (MP)
productive capital creates surplus product (C')
this then creates more money at the other end (M')
this new money then regenerates the sequence (M-M')

>>2519324
>The circumstances that I have mentioned are obliging the haute bourgeoisie to cannibalize the petite
Can you define this term, cannibalizing?

>>2519113
Where are you getting you’re numbers from? 62% employed and 62% stock holders? Not everyone takes 401ks, and a lot of people are employed as “contractors” and they don’t get 401ks in less it’s through a staffing agency. People that work as “contractors” are labeled self-employed in the census and are counted as small businesses owners despite the fact they are all but employees except on paper. The American ruling class has a yeoman fetish and has been trying create “everyone a small business owner” society for decades. It’s an ideological fantasy propped propped up by semantics and disinformation. So I don’t believe you numbers in less you can provide a source. From what I can see the largest growing class is the unemployed and lumpen.

>>2519541
the big borg eat the small borg. like how the walmart drives out the mom and pop stores or how black rock kills off all the summer house landlords or the mcdonalds ends the local family restaurant or starbucks bankrupts your neighborhood coffee shop

>>2519113
>You will leave to see workers become a reactionary class.
The majority of Western workers already are. This was noted in the middle of last century. Western communist parties largely collapsed after WWII for a reason beyond Stalin/Khruschev being meanies.

>>2519257
>The number of people earning income from capital is growing
Owning stock doesn't mean you are earning income from capital any more than owning a sewing machine does. Stock markets are speculatory, not value extracting like employing workers is. The top performing stocks are also completely disconnected from the underlying performance of the business. The price of Tesla stock isn't being driven by the surplus value being extracted from the assembly line workers.

>>2519257
>because NATO has so far successfully defended Ukraine's territorial integrity from Russian invasion. This is despite the USA's ruling party not even really wanting Ukraine to win! The cuts in social programs in the BBB had nothing to do with the comparatively small quantity of military aid sent to Ukraine (less than 2% of last year's budget).
Holy cringe, Joe "the ruble is rubble" Biden sure didnt want Ukraine to win lel

>>2519888
The USSR outcompeted Europe during the 30s and were to outcompete America. You're saying nonsense.
>>2519957
>The mystery is why the soviets were so fucking demoralized and depressed into falling for western bullshit
>I never really understood what happened to their brains.
>something seriously wrong happened in the 60's to 80's that made them just give up.
See the issue is you're trying to understand from a voluntarist perspective, like people 'choose' to feel so and so. What happened in the USSR was a counterrevolution and political stagnation.

Stalin had plans to have free elections and for the CPSU to actually not necessarily have all political hegemony after post-WW2 reconstruction but then the Khrushchevite coup d'etat happened (this did not change the mode of production), and the political stagnation stemming from the CPSU hegemony and a couple of years down the line no possibility to articulate the political consciousness of the new young socialist man but only to repeat dogma and slogans in your political life makes the mass of the young think the grass is greener elsewhere.

Elsewhere, in party ranks, it opens up the possiblity of just goodhearted idiots coming to power and ruining the fun for everyone. It's not great man theory to say that anyone else but Gorbachev would've probably not fucked up as much as he did, but in any case, some Gorbachev would've come up eventually, and some thing had to get fucked. It was inevitable, but then again, everything in history is inevitable once it happens.

>>2520457 (me)
Forgot (I am high hehe) - the counterrevolution part is also very obvious. Vid related. Tianamen square soviet style. But oops the color revolution won.

>>2520457
>>2520464
CPSU was already dealing with splits in class between intelligensia and manual laborers.

>>2520445

>The reforms did worsen inequality, but

LOL I've heard that one before. That's what they said about Reaganomics.

Stop pretending to be a Stalinist, stop trying to fabricate a radicalized false identity, stop being a reactionary and trying to "out-leftist" everyone, stop being 16 years old, stop being a typical vain image-obsessed Westerner