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A materialist analysis of the current epoch leads to a challenging conclusion: the path to dismantling imperialism does not directly lead to communism. The primary force capable of breaking the back of the current U.S.-led imperialist system is the independent capitalist development of the Global South. By building sovereign industrial and technological capacity, these nations can make their own economic exploitation unviable.

However, this process of national liberation is a bourgeois project. It is led by forces whose objective is not the abolition of class, but the creation of a national capitalist state. In this struggle, the internal class antagonism is temporarily masked by the unifying fight against a foreign oppressor.

We must therefore be clear: to expect communism to emerge organically from this process is a strategic and theoretical error. The outcome will be the consolidation of new, indigenous American, European and Russian haute bourgeoisie, not the dictatorship of the proletariat.
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>>2535457
Gladly*

>>2548177
>>2548177
>Voluntarist nonsense
<Overt idealism
<Le metaphysical evil
<blood guilt
<moral shaming
<hysteria
You will never be a marxist

>>2548348
Sorry Euroids your resource colonies WILL be declaring their independence.
Said former resource colonies WILL acquire thermonuclear weapons.
The "Aryan Crusade" WILL be met with The People's Atomic Counterattack.
Total Euroid Nuclear Annihilation WILL be enacted.

>>2533547
>Antiimperialism/National Liberation is not Communism
i wonder if that is why they are different words




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What are the implications of research regularly showing that right-wingers are generally
a) less educated
b) disinclined to reading
c) low in traits like agreeableness and openness
d) lower in cultural capital and status. (though harder to show in a neat chart, it links to b. most readers will know what i mean if i just say they're uncool.)

and the frankly obvious-and-growing divide of political behavior by intelligence throughout the west, with better educated people voting for left/liberal parties and less educated people voting for nationalists and reactionaries.
in this sense, and only this sense, are the right correct to identify the left with liberals. both leftists and liberals are generally educated, enjoy reading, and high agreeableness/openness, the opposite of rightists.

what are the implications as relate to the idea that right-wing fake news and rage-bait are demand lead, with low-openness, low-agreeableness, poorly educated non-readers prefering to watch nonsense not because they're manipulated into it by outside forces, but because this is just what they like

what are the implications for left-wing organizing strategy, which tends to resist trying to appeal directly to the interests of educated knowledge workers (or, indeed, young proletarianized female service workers with degrees) because of the aesthetic pull of historical industrial mass-movements?

what are the implications in the longer run, given that higher education enrolment levels have generally been rising over time, such that more than 50% of British young people now go into further education by age 30? what are the implications of this trend reversing, as is apparently happening in the US?

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>>2547184
>t. low-status

>>2546215
>the high-agreeability left would never say something as vulgar as "Our opponents are just plain stupid"

You taking the piss mate?

>>2547173
>you'll notice for example that societies with clustered I.Q.s like in scandanavia, there is the poverty of mediocrity, while in wider I.Q. fields you get a vital sample. a high-trust, low-crime society is a dead society, and equally "asian" in its standardised teleology.

To me, it sounds like vaguely Nietzschean-sounding, ad hoc cope to deal with the fact that the US has a massive economic inequality problem that translates into a hardcore homeless/drug addict problem in some of the richest cities of the world like S.F., L.A., Seattle, NYC, Philadelphia, Portland…
Singapore and Shanghai are also rich as fuck, are Old Nick's favorite cities, and you will never see such problems accelerated to such a degree there. Even in Hanoi which is poorer, you will never see 50 bended-like-an-U drug addicts on a sidewalk full of trash.
It's really cope for a declining elite of venture capitalists and skilled workers living in SF or NYC who want to keep their huge revenues within an highly US inflated market causing a sharp decline of standards of living for everyone else.
The real mediocrity is the practical solution provided by the Dork Enlightenment: live in gated communities like in South Africa. NYC lost its cultural influence in the world for a reason during the last couple of decades.

>>2547267
there is an inevitability of a well-regulated chaos within a hellenic cosmopolitanism however - if we permit the cosmopolis ("society of the world") then we will create wealth inequality and also wealth opportunity. eroding borders would mean doing away with the artificial stratification of the north/south and so a new way of living would exist. nietzsche for example, expressly promotes race-mixing as a strategy for eugenics (not by preserving purity, but by the process of purification, in combining many aspects into one), which is entirely contrary to current right-wing myopia, which wants to end history altogether. the consciousness of the "radical right" (t. jonathan bowden) is not "conservative", but is a revaluation of all values, and particularly, socratism and christianity. i would say that new thinking can also be old thinking, without of course, spoilation through a "platonism for the masses".

>>2547229
Note how it's framed as a joke about bushes speaking style and flatters the reader's intelligence by relying on them getting the philosophical reference rather than just saying "republicans are retards lol!!" Directly.
(And even then, just calling your opponents dumb is different from actually analysing them on the basis of their stupidity)



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>Socially degenerate as the libs, economically out of touch as the Neo-cons
>the literal worst of both worlds
Still, why did libertarianism become strangely popular among various types of popular media figures, like comedians, filmmakers, and actors?
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>>2527282
These people are rich but not actual captains of industry, they aren't factory owners and business magnates, they are comedians and creatives

>various types of popular media figures, like comedians, filmmakers, and actors?

no they are correct socially what?
is this some retarded anti queer post or whats going on

>>2272165
illiterate

>>2527282
>>2534612
A lot of comedians actually come from fairly affluent families, John Mulaney parents were both Lawyers(his dad being partner at Skadden Arps) Dave Chappelle came from a very educated family upper class family and went to a top high school and Nick Korll's dad is a billionaire.
n comedy especially, it's not just about being funny, any jackass can be funny. It's about connections, and these assholes have connection.



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Epstein is connected to Israel, this is why Trump is covering it up. He doesn't want to risk the political fallout for Israel when people realize all of Epstein's clients were blackmailed and used as Israeli assets.

"The most concrete link is his relationship with former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak. Epstein and Barak met numerous times between 2013 and 2017, with Barak visiting Epstein’s properties in Florida and New York approximately 30 times, including a 2014 private flight in Florida. Barak received $2.3 million from an Epstein-associated foundation between 2004 and 2006, and Epstein invested $1 million in a limited partnership established by Barak in 2015.

Another connection stems from Epstein’s ties to Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, Robert Maxwell, was a British media mogul alleged to have had links to the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad. Some sources, including former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe, have claimed Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell ran a “honey-trap” operation for Mossad to blackmail influential figures. A lawsuit by a woman identified as Jane Doe 200 alleged Epstein boasted of being a Mossad agent.

Epstein was also associated with the Wexner Foundation, which supports Jewish leadership and has ties to Israel. His financial backer, Leslie Wexner, was a member of the “Mega Group,” a collection of Jewish philanthropists, which some, like former NSA counterspy John Schindler, have speculated was linked to Israeli intelligence operations. Epstein reportedly invested in an Israeli startup, Reporty Homeland Security (later rebranded as Carbyne), connected to Israel’s defense industry, further fueling speculation."
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>>2411685
Surprised to see this bullshit of Amerikkkans being victims of the zionist entity they created, you aren't victims you are part of the problem

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Actually we should redistribute the treats. Due to imperial spoils, the principal contradiction in the imperial core is not the contradiction between workers and capitalists. The principal contradiction is between the chronically underemployed and the "debtor class" (often referred to as the labor aristocracy). The imperial core is the treasure hoard of capital backing cheap credit with the looted wealth of nations. But it is this exact hoarding of wealth which violates Say's law. Consequently, the supply of labor-power far exceeds demand leading to chronic underemployment. The very same hoard which creates the debtor class creates the class of the chronically underemployed opposed to it. Consequently, the chronically underemployed should rise up, redistribute the looted wealth of empire and end the cheap credit which sustains the whole scam.

"Treats" trickle up, but yeah there's value to concessionary policies when party building.



 

Calling all lefties. Join us in the chat as the shit goes down. PDX is burning to the ground and we are there! Every night at 7:00 p.m. PST.
None of that vertical video shit either.

Fuck MAGA and shitpants Trump!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2ATcG6CEcY
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I'm getting high. Listening to this odd guy with the weird voice is better than watching CNN right now.

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Shit, a bunch of bad people found his chat.

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Weird show. No action.

I will watch it every night

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It makes for good background listening. Sorta.
Not sure I'd watch nightly for 3 hours. Not sure why people do this now, just watch something and chat about nothing.



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What has your political journey been like?
Pic related is based on what I read a lot of: mainly Camus’s The Rebel, Stirner’s The Ego and Its Own, Bookchin’s Ecology of Freedom, Lenin’s State and Revolution, and Trotsky’s Revolution Betrayed. But I started with Marx’s Communist Manifesto.
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>>2546071
Lib > Lib > Lib > Lib > Lib

>>2547455
Trvke. The only thing not lib is ziggerism with anti gay characteristics since being gay is being imperialist

lib > anarcholib (babby reads his first political zine that had Goldman and Kropotkin quotes) > "Marxist" (babby reads the Manifesto and the first few chapters of Capital vol. 1) > "Marxist-Leninist" (babby reads State and Revolution and grab bag of Stalin) > vulgar Marxist-Leninist (babby defends AES and campism) > "Marxist-Leninist-Maoist" (babby reads the General Political Line of the Communist Party of Peru and the Communist Party of India (Maoist) MLM Basic Course) > a Maoist of some sort (babby finally reads some essential Marx, Lenin, Mao; doesn't consider any of the other heads holy writ)

Sometimes I question how much people take in from the stuff they're reading because kids will tell me they read Bookchin and others but then a year later they're a Leninist. The sheer amount of democratic socialists saying they love Rosa is a big clue.

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Israel arrests ex-army lawyer over leaked video showing Palestinian’s abuse
According to a copy of her resignation letter published by Israeli media on Friday, Tomer-Yerushalmi acknowledged that her office had released the video to the media last year. Five reservists were later charged with mistreating prisoners.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/3/israel-arrests-ex-army-lawyer-over-leaked-video-showing-palestinians-abuse
https://archive.ph/JXzno

Israeli strikes on southern Lebanon kill two, wound seven in latest ceasefire violation
Israel in recent days threatened to expand its attacks on Lebanon, despite a ceasefire being in place between Israel and Hezbollah since November 2024. In a preliminary toll, the ministry said that an "Israeli enemy strike" on the town of Doueir in Nabatiyeh district killed one person and wounded seven https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/valencia-regional-president-mazon-resigns-year-after-deadly-floodsothers. The second strike on Aita al-Shaab in the Bint Jbeil district also killed one person, according to the ministry.
https://www.newarab.com/news/israeli-strikes-southern-lebanon-kill-two-wound-seven

Turkey demands UN resolution before deploying troops to Gaza
Fidan noted that the countries considering troop deployment to Gaza, as part of a deal brokered by US President Donald Trump, are keen to first understand the parameters of the proposed force. "The countries would like to see a UN Security Council resolution that establishes the force, defines the mission's terms and grants it legitimacy," Fidan told reporters during a news conference in Istanbul, after meeting with the foreign ministers of Indonesia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Jordan, as well as representatives from the UAE and Qatar.
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Echoes of Obama Libya Strikes as Trump Argues Boat Bombings Are Immune From War Powers Law
The Washington Post reported Saturday that “T. Elliot Gaiser, head of the Trump administration’s Office of Legal Counsel, made his remarks to a small group of lawmakers this week amid signs that the president may be planning to escalate the military campaign in the region, including potentially hitting targets within Venezuela.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-boat-strikes-libya

Education Department sued over new student loan forgiveness rule
The rule, published Friday, limits eligibility for PSLF — which forgives the remaining balance on federal student loans for eligible public service workers after ten years — as part of the broader crackdown on what the Trump administration calls "anti-American activists." he Education Department outlined those actions as "supporting terrorism and aiding and abetting illegal immigration."
https://www.axios.com/2025/11/03/trump-student-loans-education-department-letitia-james
https://archive.ph/CUdEa

Top FDA official quits amid inquiry into ‘serious concerns’ over his conduct
The departure came the same day that a drugmaker connected to one of Tidmarsh’s former business associates filed a lawsuit alleging that he made “false and defamatory statements” during his time at the FDA. The lawsuit, brought by Aurinia Pharmaceuticals, alleges that Tidmarsh used his FDA position to pursue a “longstanding personal vendetta” against the chair of the company’s board of directors, Kevin Tang.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/03/fda-official-resigns-george-tidmarsh

US to pay reduced food aid benefits, but warns of weeks or months delay
USDA official warned in the filing that at least some states, which administer SNAP benefits, would need weeks to months to make system changes that would allow them to calculate and issue tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

EU backs Czech Republic’s anti-communist crackdown — KKE exposes hypocrisy
A new escalation of the anti-communist offensive in the European Union is underway, this time with the Czech government preparing an operation to further criminalize the dissemination, support and defense of communist ideology — and the EU proving yet again its hypocrisy and tolerance for such reactionary measures. The alarming developments were raised in the European Parliament by Kostas Papadakis, MEP of the Communist Party of Greece (KKE), who exposed the Czech authorities’ plan to equate communist ideas with so-called “totalitarianism” and to apply harsh criminal sanctions.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2025/11/eu-backs-czech-republics-anti-communist-crackdown-kke-exposes-hypocrisy.html

Money, mercenaries and mayhem: How Israel and UAE are investing in regional chaos
In the flickering twilight of El-Fasher, a child clutches a soot-covered doll beside a pile of ashes where her home once stood. Mothers huddle in the corridors of the last functioning hospital, terrified that the next drone strike will claim the wounded they tend. Fathers dig graves with their hands, burying children in the courtyards of shattered schools. For 18 months, the city endured a siege that stripped it of food, water, and life. When its gates finally fell, it was not liberation that entered. It was annihilation. Witnesses speak of men dragged from their homes, women and children executed in the streets, hospitals shelled while terrified civilians sheltered inside. Human Rights Watch has documented scenes of mass killings, burning, and looting. The UN has described the assault as a "campaign of extermination". And behind the force that carried out this atrocity stands a patron whose fingerprints stain every front of Sudan’s war: the United Arab Emirates. If the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) are the visible executioners, the hand that directs them is Abu Dhabi’s. It has poured cash, weapons, and political cover into the war machine of RSF leader Mohammed Hamdan Dagalo - known as Hemeti - igniting a conflict that has torn Sudan apart.
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Thanks News Anon



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CARS, JEEPS, TRUCKS, PLANES, TANKS, SHIPS, BUSES, SUBMARINES.
ALL VEHICLES THAT CAN BE DRIVEN AND REQUIRE CERTIFICATION.
This is the general where we educate comrades how to become proficient drivers and operators.

DRIVING EXAMS SHOULD BE FREE! DEMAND FOR THEM TO BE PAID FOR BY TAXPAYERS, DEMAND NATIONALIZATION OF DRIVER EXAMS WITH SCHOOLS FOR CANDIDATE-DRIVERS! DEMAND YOUR BOURGEOIS GOVERNMENTS TO END THE SCAM OF PAYING THOUSANDS JUST TO FAIL THE TEST AND PAY THOUSANDS MORE. IN THIS MODERN WORLD WHERE YOU ARE STUCK A SERF UNTIL YOU CAN DRIVE, DEMAND IT BE EASIER TO BECOME A DRIVER WHEN INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEING CATERED TOWARDS DRIVERS AND NOT PEDESTRIANS! WHERE CERTAIN JOBS ARE A PAIN IN THE ASS TO GET TO WITHOUT A CAR, WHERE MODERN JOBS REQUIRE MORE AND MORE DRIVERS.

POST:
-Manuals
-Books
-Videos
-Mock exams / tests
-Drivers' advocacy groups
-Courses, lessons
And all material related to driving.
FOCUS ON CARS
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>>2547635
Depends on the job, some will require getting in and out of the forklift pretty often depending on workload, you’ll probably have to use a hand truck or a dolly sometimes and they suck balls

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Oh finally, a productive thread for the discussion of transporting the revolutionary proletariat. How delightful.

>>2547764
You can still contribute with experience if you have something to teach about it, like how to avoid ending up like a liveleak video.

>>2547776
kill yourself pedophile



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>>2547888
> I don't think "robot slavery" is as bad as livestock and prisoners unless you go out of your way to make the robots capable of suffering or resenting the position they are in.

gotcha we will just make the robots enjoy their "enslavement". Or at least feel nothing.
If they feel pleasure regarding their slavery, then is it really bad?

>>2547888
Yeah and the brought us here exactly because they are functional to commodity production and thus reproduce capitalist relations

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new thread >>2547894


>>2547893
take it up with lenin

>>2547720
>what makes them more productive than the plebs?
the reproduction of their labor includes the resources that went into it, for any skilled labor this includes their education. this is as true in smith as it is in marx

>>2547842
>just in more politically clear terms
ive said as much before. he wont admit its a political choice. he instead demands transparency honesty and humbleness from others but not for himself in everything from economics to epistemology to ontology while claiming to uphold kantian morality



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