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Why does the demon colony invests in "high tech" so much and brands itself "startup nation"?

meow meow
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>>2900679
>original contribution
probably not
>parasitizing inventions
this is the nature of invention, to spread and be used, even by people who you would like not to use it. I do not endeavor to praise the concept of intellectual property which tends to seek endless generations royalties and is thus also parasitic, especially in the case of patent trolling

>>2900675
This, but also it's a way for a small country with few natural resources to remain economically relevant. Just look at Taiwan with their semiconductors.

>>2900766
This.

Israel has always been afraid of getting embargoed. They were actually under a U.S. arms embargo during the '48 war, and then worked with France until '68 when France cut them off and then got back in with the U.S., but have since the beginning tried to do as much as they can themselves. For the military their strategy has been to produce at least one major weapon system in each category in Israel. The hardest thing was making airplanes which they never quite managed to do themselves. But in the 1970s they started making their own tank, for example. They'd make their own radio, and their own submachine gun, the Uzi. Then they'd sell radios and Uzis to all kinds of evil governments like South Africa during the Cold War at a lower price point than Western countries.

A lot of military hardware also isn't weapons but kind of niche stuff, like specific components. So Israel wouldn't make every component but they'd try to get good at specific things, so when Vietnam wants to upgrade their old Soviet armored vehicles with a new fire-control system, Israel will sell it to them and do the upgrades and they don't care about who they do business with. Or India, which has historically bought more Russian stuff than American stuff. (The U.S. has historically sold a lot more weapons to Pakistan than India.) Also the influx of Jewish engineers and scientists from the Soviet Union in the 1990s helped.

Also they've tried really hard to integrate with Western supply chains. Also a big thing now they do is medical technology. I think there's something about military hardware and medical tech that transfer easily because there's a lot of sensors involved. An engineer who can design a sensor for a helicopter can also make augmented goggles that a surgeon wears.

Also see Cuba pivoting into biotechnology in the 1980s (probably for similar reasons). You don't need a huge, continent-sized industrial base like the U.S., Russia or China to make pharmaceuticals. It's a good niche if you're a small country.

Also IT / software is a thing. Russia also got into that but they got frozen out of Western countries. Kaspersky is highly regarded in the cybersecurity industry. Enterprises in the U.S. and Europe got off Kaspersky after 2014 but China is a huge market. I like the ad where Eugene Kaspersky equips Jackie Chan to enter the CYBERWORLD to fight evil computer viruses with martial arts moves.

>>2900666
goyim control



 

DAILY REMINDER THAT PATRIOT FRONT IDOLIZED AN UNDERCOVER ANTIFASCIST SO MUCH THEY MADE THIS MAD LAD THEIR FIGHT TRAINER.

< And then finally, in 2020, there’d been “Gabriel” in California, the infiltrator who everyone really liked. They had been heartbroken to learn Gabriel, an Iraq War vet built like a brick shithouse, was a secret anti-fascist. Looking back, it made some sense: Gabriel, after all, had always insisted on leading combat trainings, using group sparring sessions as a ruse to beat the shit out of different members, giving some concussions.


This is a guest thread from /farcism/ @ https://nukechan.net/social/thread/611.html



 

Just reminding you that if you don’t want your children killed ask your wife or your girlfriend if she sympathises baby killers like Lindsay Clancy or not, if she sympathises her divorce/break up.


Glad men standing up for themselves current insanity year, because enough is enough!
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The ancients understood that women rule the household and so men are at mercy of the wrath of their wives. It's never up to men.

>>2900988
Who cares about this culture war nonsense? Fuck off back to whatever website you came from.

>>2901019
>watch fiction for facts
Anon…

Who gives a shit about culture war slop?
Sage




 

Is there a communism who puts central importance on the lumpenproletariat, and not the proletariat?
Is there bourgeois socialism?
What are some interesting yet lesser known ideas from communist thinkers?
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>Is there a communism who puts central importance on the lumpenproletariat, and not the proletariat?
There were some New Left currents that did this on the basis of (mostly Black) prisoner's movements in the 60s and 70s. Iirc Huey Newton adopted some elements of this in his writing.

>>2899857
>Iirc Huey Newton adopted some elements of this in his writing.

Quick rundown?

>>2900934
It's essentially just a variation on the labour aristocracy theory, arguing that workers (or at least white ones) were too heavily absorbed into capitalist society and were unlikely to revolt. So they proposed that organized prisoners and lumpenproletariat more generally would take on a vanguard role that would eventually draw in the broader masses of workers.

>>2900936
Id love to hear about such movements because i have a somewhat similar belief, that is, that emphasis should be put on the most avant-garde, radical elements in society, the ones that, due to their conditions, are the most opressed in a first world country and would naturally have the most to gain from bringing about communism. An elite, not in a sense of class or education but in their severe resentment of a system that wronged them. IE ex cons,low class homosexuals, transgender individuals, and generally peolple who the system deems undesirable, mostly people who are extreme in their hatred of the status quo for being wronged by it. They would be naturally receptive to an ideology that promises the restructuring of society that would eliminate their subhuman status and should be pretty loyal due to not having a future under the status quo.
These types, should be chosen for their readiness to act violently if needed. With some education and training, they could prove very valuable and a shared struggle would mend their differences to an acceptable level. This nucleus could then, through a agressive campaign, slowly draw the general proleteriat into a broader movement.
I might be an absolute anarkkkiddie and a theorylet for even thinking this could work, but damn if it wouldn't be cool as hell.

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>>2900936
the problem with that is the prisoners are literally slaves stuck in series of geographically isolated panopticons. no spartacus like uprising is possible when the slaves are in a jail. you would need a bunch of simultaneous successful prison breaks from max security facilities. statistically unlikely. also mixed in with the nonviolent workers who were imprisoned for no good reason are genuine opportunists, class traitors, psychopaths, etc. you are unlikely to develop a healthy and lasting political coalition out of that mixture.



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>Gigabazed Edition

A thread for the harmonious discussion related to the saviour of socialism, the uplifter of nations, the king of cooperation, the soviet of SOVL, the enjoyer of empathy, the ally of Africa, the demigod of development, the bureaucracy for banter, the prince of ping pong, the lobotomizer of labour aristocracy, the protector against proxy wars, the sponsor of sophisticated sciences and culture, the guarantor of gommunism, the Proletarian Dictatorship of Chynah™.

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>>2899264
You do realize americans go to jail for importing chinese electric vehicles, solar panels, wifi modems and countless other high tech goods right? Treats that mexicans and canadians can freely import and consume?

>>2899323
Praise China, the toy maker!

We need an baker

>>2899264
Chinese model being export driven is the biggest lie capitalist propaganda feeds us. We can see all those other export oriented economies, and they NEVER grow up to stand on their own two feet, and they've been living in export-driven economies for the past 2 centuries

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Pray for China.



 

>failed at everything he tried to do after winning the civil war award
>Divided the communist world over shit that didnt matter in the end award
>Killed more chinese people than the japanese ever did award
>Killed 2 billion birds for no fucking reason award
>Caused china to adopt market reforms and sell out to capitalism because he fucked everything up so badly award
I genuinely wonder how mao fans still exist?
Do they just only read his literature and ignore everything that he did and caused post civil war?
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>>2900832
>in violation of United Nations sanctions
Oh no, anyway

Hoxhaist hands typed this

>>2900832
hello mossad

>>2900841
in violation of international maritime law retard. not sanctions. you cant fish in territorial waters of other nations. Same way you cant appropriate natural resources that aren't part of your nation. nothing
prevents china fishing in its own waters

>>2900847
hello friend, please send us those Chinese cameras for our checkpoints. the palestinians are getting uppity



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long time lurker first time poster. i consider myself to be a leftist and want to get more involved, i recently found out about a DSA chaptor in a mid sized city not to far from where i live, im looking into it but ive heard a lot of distaste for the DSA from leftists online, though i cant find much reson other then
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>>2900786
Rosa didn't support the revolution until you started massacring workers, subhuman animal lapdog.

>>2900800
You seem to be under the misapprehension that 107 year old Germans post on leftypol.org

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>>2900800
<you
He knows. Shut it down.


>>2900717
>>/USAPOL/



 

One of my core political positions and personal values since I was a literal child is that any kind of violence and coercion is way worse when accepted and normalized or state sponsored. I can accept rape, murder, and torture as facts of life that are impossible to eradicate as long as the public is strongly opposed to it and the state cracks down on it. What disturbs and enrages me to the point of wanting to hurt people is when people become accepting of it and even worse when the state starts practicing it. A cruel criminal needs to be turned around and the community needs to be protected from him. A government oficiall that authorizes torture and degradation of a person ought to be shot on sight. The visceral reaction i get from normalized barbarity is so strong that its almost knee-jerk. I wonder if there is anyone else who thinks like this or if im a genuinely insane.
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>>2899842
Shut up it was super obvious

>>2900220
Kill yourself

>>2900220
explain it anyway

for me it was the opposite, violence - real violence - was normalized for me as a kid and it wasn't until well into adulthood that i learned that it was not a normal thing for most of society. i get the feeling that a lot of the people who most vocally endorse violence are the people who have never really been exposed to it, all they've ever seen is videogame or movie violence or shock content on the internet, not actual traumatizing real life violence that screws you up in the head forever when you see it.



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Georgi Dmitrov:
>the open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, most imperialist elements of finance capital.

Umberto Eco's 14 traits:
>cult of tradition, rejection of modernism, irrationalism/action for action’s sake, fear of difference, obsession with conspiracy, nationalism, glorification of struggle, contempt for weakness, selective populism, machismo, newspeak, treating dissent as treason.

Rajani Palme Dutt:
>Monopoly capitalism in crisis creating a dictatorship at the head of a manipulated petty bourgeois mass movement, resulting in the collapse of parliamentary liberalism under capitalism,

Normie Lib Political Science Definition:
>totalitarian authoritarian anti-liberal ultranationalism bulit on a myth of national rebirth, dictatorship, mass mobilization, and political violence

criticisms? thoughts?
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>>2816626
>>2822821
The mass games is a thing slavic Communists adopted from the sokol movement it later spread to non Slavic socialist states

>>2816723
>I wouldn't go as far as saying it's the main factor like someone said in a thread a few days ago though.
That was me. I was basing it off of the views of Arno Mayer who himself sees fascism as counter-revolution in the era of mass politics. I think that this is a pretty decent definition for Marxists whether you follow Mayer in his analysis of the persistence of the old regime into the 20th Century or not.

bumping this thread because we have some ahistorical nonsesne

>>>/leftypol/2883864

>>2845253
Which one because vargas is comparable to more so Franco. Meanwhile the 100 percent full fascists of Latam such as the Brazilian integralists were big believers of paligenetic ultranationalism

>>2822650
>>2889594
>Authoritarian capitalism
So capitalism?



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So why is it that all "historically progressive" forces in History all turnout to be white European colonizers who raped and enslaved Black and Indigenous folx?
Is Marxism just a long winded apologia to justify colonialism and oppression?
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>>2891978
Marx was a monkeist?

>>2890948
That's a myth. The typical peasant worked from sun up to sun down every day. Some people have made it out like peasants didn't even have to work that much by confusing the feudal obligations of a serf with how much they had to work. Serfs were expected to farm their lords fields and perform a number of other tasks such as maintenance of infrastructure and basically just doing the lord's chores for free as an obligation to him. The time they had "off" they were working for themselves on their own land and in their own homes.

>>2900715
So nothing has changed

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Marx justified colonialism by the fact that it begets national liberation movements doebeit

>>2893018
>>2891978
Read Anti-Dühring
>the kind of negation is here determined, firstly, by the general and, secondly, by the particular nature of the process. I must not only negate, but also sublate the negation. I must therefore so arrange the first negation that the second remains or becomes possible.



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