>>385049>No it was made pretty fucking clear by marx engles ted Kaczynski and god knows how many other philosophers that worker exploitation occurs when workers hate forced into labouring to produce wealth they'll never see the benefit of.
No, its not. Is such a thing a "good" thing? Likely not in regards to both our interests, but that's still not economic exploitation, which is something specific.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch23.htm>No no they dont otherwise North Korea, china and estwani would cease to exist
Two of those are completely suffocated and isolated to the point of stagnating, while the third is entirely open in its adoption of capitalism for its reasons. Nothing you stated negated capitalists and capitalism operating on a global level. >wahhh wahhh any type of societal change that ends up good for the public that isnt in my exact definition is bad because bad
No, its because its inconsequential. It decays and is inevitably reverted or subverted toward capitalist processes. >So your saying that when communities form outside of socialist societies then it's natural that people work for each others interests
Yes, in general this occurs due to primitive relations necessitating it. It is not optimal though, and with time will eventually develop more advanced economic relations. >but when socialist fucking ruin those communities like what happened in ukraine and Afghanistan than all of a sudden you dont care, yeah that makes sense
Explain "ruin" here, because I don't see their lives as ruined. >You had an idea of the measurement of freedom being arbitrary but you kept rambling on and on and inevitably I lost track as to what your actually trying to state
The read it again and pay attention to the overall point being made.>Holy fuck, I was almost willing to stop reading at that point because that is literally wrong. Niqqa not everyone on the planet is the fucking same and unsurprisingly different people need and want different fucking things at different fucking tiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.