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 No.1275443[Reply]

is Roger Garaudy our guy
>Garaudy was critical of Jean-Paul Sartre's view of freedom, maintaining that it lacks any social, economic, political or historical context.He criticized Being and Nothingness for what he deemed not going beyond the domain of metaphysical pathology, and Sartre's novels for "depicting only degenerates and human wrecks" and describing his existentialism as "a sickness".
>Garaudy's faith in communism was shaken in 1956, after Nikita Khrushchev made the Secret Speech at the 20th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Afterwards, he espoused an eclectic and humanist view on Marxism, strictly opposing the theoretical Marxism of Louis Althusser and advocating dialogue with other schools of thought.
>Around 1980, Garaudy read The Green Book by Muammar Gaddafi and became interested in Libya and Islam, meeting the country's leader on several occasions in the desert. He converted formally at the Islamic Centre in Geneva, an organisation controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood.[13][better source needed] Garaudy converted in 1982 after marrying a Palestinian woman, later writing that "The Christ of Paul is not the Jesus of the Bible," and also forming other critical scholarly conclusions regarding the Old and New Testaments.He became an Islamic commentator and supporter of the Palestinian cause.
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 No.1279104

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>>1275578
>>1278139
Proof #2039572035 that atheists are illiterate.
I explicitly said
>according to wiki
You guys didn't even look at the wiki to see the context of what I was talking about. I never brought up the Secret Speech and I mentioned Brezhnev and mixing up anti-Soviet uprisings in Czechoslovakia and Hungary and neither of you put 2 + 2 together.

 No.1279112

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>>1275512
He thinks that Khruschev wasn't responsible for letting fascists to operate freely in Hungary, leading to an uprising in the first place. Mao was opposing the Hungarian events from the get go, advocating for the restoration of socialism via military action - alongside Voroshilov and "Anti-Party Group" in USSR, by the way. The combined pressure on Khruschevites is what caused the suppression of fascists in Hungary.

Simiarly, missiles stationed in Cuba were the result of Anti-Party Group's actions, and then Khruschev just like gave that position away for free to USA, for his stupid thaw that gave USSR zero benefits

 No.1279125

>>1279112
>Say in my next post that i got it mixed up and it was Brezhnev not Khrushchev
>Counter argument still talking about Khrushchev
You people are all illiterate.
By the way the Anti Party group had no backing from the military so Khrushchev was never in any danger of losing power so long as he had Zhukov on his side which he did for the entirety of the internal struggle because Zhukov preferred him over the rest despite their disagreements.

Also I'm sick of MLs pretending Khrushchev was the one man responsible for everything bad and blaming everything that happened on him and him alone as some sort of retarded coping mechanism . That's not a Marxist analysis it's a Great Man liberal bullshit analysis that was first popularized by even greater "revisionists" such as Mao, and enables the proponent of said theses to pretend that per-Khrushchev USSR was perfect, thereby freeing them from critically engaging in any serious discussion.

You bring up Cuba and forget that Khrushchev guaranteed Cuba's security as a state to the point that they still live today on a Russian security guarantee. Furthermore US missiles stationed in Turkey pointing at Russia were removed, and a general de-escalation in tensions allowed for the Soviets to continue recovering from WW2 rather than fretting over the potential of fighting a nuclear war. Turkish-US relations also suffered which was a net gain.

You are not Marxist you are a libshit LARPing as a radical because your thinking is as simple and stupid as "remove Khrushchev and USSR = paradise" forgetting that Brezhnev who followed Khrushchev and rolled back the de-Stalinization also presided over the single most corrupt period of the entire union.

 No.1279129

>>1279125
> so long as he had Zhukov on his side which he did for the entirety of the internal struggle because Zhukov preferred him over the rest despite their disagreements.

That's why during Khruschev and early Brezhnev Zhukov was declared responsible for the "failures" of 1941 and 1942, lol

>Also I'm sick of MLs pretending Khrushchev was the one man responsible

<The combined pressure on Khruschevites is what caused the suppression of fascists in Hungary.

>You bring up Cuba and forget that Khrushchev guaranteed Cuba's security as a state to the point that they still live today on a Russian security guarantee.

Not Khruschev's, but mainly Cuba's willingness to dunk on Yankees at every opportunity. But also Anti-Party Group's. And even then Cuba got sanctioned to hell and back

>Furthermore US missiles stationed in Turkey pointing at Russia were removed,


They weren't lmao. Turkey basically has multiple nukes leased to them because Khruschev surrendered Cuban missiles without any compensation

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>>1279129
>>1279125
<That's why during Khruschev and early Brezhnev Zhukov was declared responsible for the "failures" of 1941 and 1942, lol

Zhukov got reinstated to his position as the winner of WW2 only because he agreed to share the glory with Brezhnev and others, instead of hoarding in all to himself. He was stripped of all power he had when Khruschev came to power, and then like a beaten dog begged to be let back in onto the fun - while living on his dacha with a young wife who married him because of glory and riches and then receiving none because her husband crossed the wrong people, lol.

Do google how many medals had Zhukov and how many - Brezhnev. Realize the extent of history rewriting that happened under Khruschev and afterwards



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 No.1264073[Reply]

On November 25th (the day of infamous "Black Friday" sales), a large series of Amazon strikes worldwide are set to take place.

For those sick of seeing general strike hype posters, this event has been occurring and growing for the past few years. It is co-convened by the Progressive International (who are post-capitalists, mostly demsocs) and UNI Global Union. The event is a coalition of over 80 unions, civil society organizations, environmentalists and tax watchdogs.

>On November 25th, Amazon will face strikes and protests in at least Argentina, Australia, Austria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Brazil, Cambodia, Canada, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Hungary, India, Japan, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Palestine, Poland, Slovakia, South Africa, Turkey, the UK, and the US, with more being planned. The actions will bring together workers across Amazon’s supply chain with environmental groups, civil society groups, and political leaders.


Official site is https://makeamazonpay.com with a big fukken list of orgs. So, based or waste?
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 No.1264909

>>1264540
idk, I don't think they'll reserve it until you order it, it might just be marked out of stock if they really run out of stock. It's not like an airline/movie theatre reservation system that kicks you out if you don't buy things fast enough.

 No.1264945

>>1264845
I wasnt talking about the OP. Multiple anons were talking about boycotting.

 No.1266539

>>1264073
Amazon is certainly the perfect choice for this since their malpractices are widely known. Any idea as to how much reach it’s getting? strikes generally need tons of organization in advance to get people on board in the first place.
I also have a hard time believing this will do anything, Amazon makes enough money from AWS as is and they can afford to just fire whoever is against them

 No.1266551

>>1266539
>and they can afford to just fire whoever is against them
Easier said than done in much of Europe and I think AUS/NZ (I can't speak for other regions). Even in much of the US you would run into legal trouble for firing unionized workers in light of strike action. See (Starfucks?) cases.

 No.1279062

bump for the weekend



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 No.1277072[Reply]

>Solarpunk is a literary and artistic movement that envisions and works toward actualizing a sustainable future interconnected with nature and community. The "solar" represents solar energy as a renewable energy source and an optimistic vision of the future that rejects climate doomerism, while the "punk" refers to the countercultural, post-capitalist, and decolonial enthusiasm for creating such a future. As a science fiction literary subgenre and art movement, solarpunk works address how the future might look if humanity succeeded in solving major contemporary challenges with an emphasis on sustainability, human impact on the environment, and addressing climate change and pollution. Especially as a subgenre, it is aligned with cyberpunk derivatives, and may borrow elements from utopian and fantasy genres.

What does everyone think of "solarpunk"? Is socialism going to have a solarpunk aesthetic? OR is this just greenwashing capitalism through aesthetics that give the appearance of sustainability without addressing the root causes of actual environmental issues?
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 No.1279035

>>1277072
>What does everyone think of "solarpunk"?
I like it, but keep the punk in it. Recuperate this shit and it just ends up as just an aesthetic, kind of like much of modern cyberpunk.

>Is socialism going to have a solarpunk aesthetic?

wut
If I wanted the leaders to care about aesthetics that much I'd be a fascist. Socialist societies tend to focus on functionality and needs, then adapt aesthetic decisions over the top to complement it.
So they will hopefully have that focus on greenery but not as an aesthetic dogma. Solarpunk, visually, is more utopian art than anything practical. At least, at this point in time. At best, it's a very pretty mainstreamable gateway to eco movements.
Yes, literary content and fringe overtly-anarchist content are different but I have no hope yet that they're the face of the movement.

PS: fash will try and co-opt it, so watch out.

 No.1279037

>>1279035
>PS: fash will try and co-opt it, so watch out.

urgh, why do they have to steal everything.

 No.1279053

>>1279037
Their ideology is just taking things they like and putting it in a blender, whether it be ideas or aesthetics. They have very little creative potential, they thrive on taking what others make.
That's why they have to steal everything. They're desperate to look cool and it's the simplest way.

 No.1279056

>>1277072
So it’s Sinowave?

 No.1279067

>>1279056
Substantiate your bullshit or we'll just ignore it.



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 No.1278996[Reply]

Nils Flyg was born and raised in Södermalm, a working-class area of Stockholm at the time. Early on he joined the Swedish Social Democratic Party's youth organization, the Swedish Social Democratic Youth League. In 1917, Flyg took part in the founding of a new leftist party, a group headed by Zeth Höglund and Karl Kilbom, which would soon become the Communist Party of Sweden.

Flyg became an important leader of the Communist Party, wrote books and went on political trips to the Soviet Union. In the general election of 1928, with the Flyg-dominated Communists cooperating with the dominant Social Democratic Party, he failed to achieve an influential position as voters failed to show substantial support for a Communist-Social Democratic coalition. In 1929 Flyg, along with the majority of the party's membership, was accused of insufficient loyalty to the Soviet-dominated Comintern and expelled from the party. The same year Flyg and Kilbom founded a new, parallel Communist Party, which claimed to be the real Communist Party of Sweden.

Initially Flyg and Kilbom attempted to reconcile with the Comintern, something that soon proved fruitless. They gradually developed an animosity towards Stalinism. By 1934 the party had changed name to the Socialist Party (Socialistiska partiet). At first, the Socialist Party still supported the Soviet Union but condemned the Stalinist leadership. But by the end of the 1930s, the party had changed its view and criticized the whole of the Soviet Union, a stance that gradually developed to a foreign policy embracing Nazi Germany.

In 1937 Kilbom was expelled from the party after a few years of disputes and personal struggle between the two leaders. After the expulsion of Kilbom a majority of the members of the party left. The Socialist Party shrank dramatically and Flyg became more and more politically isolated.

At the beginning of World War II, Flyg came out in opposition to fascism, and the Nazi-Soviet pact in his eyes proved that Stalinism was just as bad as fascism. But when Hitler broke the pact with Stalin, and Germany launched the invasion against the Soviet Union, Flyg decided that he had to support the Nazis against Stalin, hoping it would lead to the end of Stalinism.[2] Financial constraints led him to approach the German High Commission in Stockholm.[citation needed] Initially, the Germans turned down his request for funding, but in the final stages of the war (when the Germans felt a moPost too long. Click here to view the full text.(false consensus rule etc)
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 No.1279020

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>>1278996
>The same year Flyg and Kilbom founded a new, parallel Communist Party, which claimed to be the real Communist Party of Sweden.
Form some a patsoc version of the Communist Party of Sweden that refuses to join the Popular Front

Goes to Stalin: "Can I have monies."

Stalin: "No."

:(

"FUCK YOU STALINIST"

>Financial constraints led him to approach the German High Commission in Stockholm. Initially, the Germans turned down his request for funding

Goes to Nazis:

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 No.1279322

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 No.1279334

>>1278996
>Flyg-dominated Communists cooperating with the dominant Social Democratic Party,

Based United Front tactics Trot ended up becoming an "antiStalinist" who sided with fascism, what else is new?



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 No.1274099[Reply]

Why is the modern left so poisoned by nihilism and cynicism? What happened to the radical optimism of the likes of Trotsky?

>It is difficult to predict the extent of self-government which the man of the future may reach or the heights to which he may carry his technique. Social construction and psycho-physical self-education will become two aspects of one and the same process. All the arts – literature, drama, painting, music and architecture will lend this process beautiful form. More correctly, the shell in which the cultural construction and self-education of Communist man will be enclosed, will develop all the vital elements of contemporary art to the highest point. Man will become immeasurably stronger, wiser and subtler; his body will become more harmonized, his movements more rhythmic, his voice more musical. The forms of life will become dynamically dramatic. The average human type will rise to the heights of an Aristotle, a Goethe, or a Marx. And above this ridge new peaks will rise.


Reading stuff like this makes me literally tear up.
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 No.1278952

>>1278939
That wasn't really an 'uprising' though was it? Not in the sense of overthrowing the government. There's a big difference between BLM and 1917.

 No.1278953

>>1278951
No you don't there are many skinny guys who would be labeled soy with 800mg free T. I'm 31 and after covid and not working out for a month tested in the high 700s. It's all selection bias where people who are muscular chad self report as high and the few that have lower concentrations (below 500) are seen as weird outliers.

 No.1278956

>>1278953
big muscles or masculinized facial features has more to do with high androgen receptors than free T levels.

 No.1278967

>>1278952
I think you need to read the dictionary for "uprising"

 No.1278979

>>1278967
Okay fine, it was an 'uprising' in the sense of breaking shit and making fires, it was not a revolution though.



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 No.1278754[Reply]

Why is it that the bourgeois are so anti-LGBTQ+ and that they want more and more people to be straight? Or is this phenomenon changing over the course of our lifetime? Give reasons as why the bourgeois are so fearful of those identifying with different sexualities or even having different sexual preferences.
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 No.1278973

Why does /pol/ spam our board with inane idpol shit? They have finally figured out how to disrupt this place

 No.1278974

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>>1278916
>>1278904
>>1278873
>>1278806
>ITT: reactionary faggots masking their homophobia as "revolutionary" materialist thinking when in reality they just got annoyed by some femboy they met online
mods should just blanket ban retards like this who consistently derail threads about anything LGBT related

 No.1278975

>>1278965
It is almost as if nothing they do or promote among labor has anything to do with themselves and they consider us more like livestock and playthings than human beings.

 No.1278976

i'm just saying like, maybe, maybe, we really just shouldn't consider anything the porkies do on their own social grounds as having anything to do with anything anyone outside of that group does

you have nothing to do with them, including whatever "degeneracies" or "traditions" may or may not be applicable.

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 No.1172794[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

How is it that a communist imageboard doesn't have at least one thread dedicated to discussion of the largest and most powerful international bourgeois vanguard party?

The WEF is trying to implement global cybernetic fascism-neo-feudalism. The most rich and powerful people on earth are all members, and they're openly dictating policy to governments around the world through a permanent emergency state. As communists it is our duty to stop them.

Let's share good information and articles about the WEF and their activities, and how to stop them.
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 No.1276273

>>1226239
What's he saying to people ?

 No.1276594

>>1274894
commies love to split hairs over absolute bullshit like this

 No.1276596

>>1276594
The point - your head

 No.1278613

>>1222425 This, on paper and real life implementation are two different things entirely

 No.1279513

>>1275023
Only /leftypol/, redditors and rabid American libs think the world going multipolar is something outrageous and stunning. The rest of the world has already diversified their investments long ago.



 No.1278124[Reply]

How can the global South be a site of socialist revolution when every popular protest movement is subverted by Western intelligence agencies and used to undermine anti-imperialist governments in places like Iran and Syria?
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 No.1278451

>>1278450
>>1278439
>peripheral capitalists have to overcome their lack of automation with higher rates of automation
*Higher rates of exploitation.

 No.1278472

>>1278391
>understand anything about imperialism or capitalism.
>"one imperialist".
>single "imperialist system" of which the heads are the sole imperialists.
Imperialism is very much a global system now, with the US as the imperial hegemon. (The EU has been part of the imperial core, but is now rapidly falling out of it)
Only a very small part of the population in the imperial core is benefiting from imperialism, so it's perhaps a little overgeneralized to solely frame this in terms of geography. For most of the population in the EU and the US, there has been a change, imperialism now not only doesn't benefit them but it straight up costs them. The EU and US proles are both being forced to pay for imperial aggression (for the sanctions war against Russia) through inflation which can be seen as indirect taxation.

It is true that US empire is on the way out, but there's unlikely going to emerge a new imperial system, because there is no candidate that could replace the US. China does have the necessary economic power, but neither its geographic location nor its political system are compatible with becoming an empire. And since there is no other candidate, there is a decent chance that imperialism is dying off.

>>1278413
> sub-imperialism
that kinda doesn't make sense either because on balance only the bourgeoisie in the imperial core is making imperial super-profits.

 No.1278480

>>1278472
>that kinda doesn't make sense either because on balance only the bourgeoisie in the imperial core is making imperial super-profits
I know, but I think the term is useful to describe middle powers which have established exploitative and domineering relations with other states, but are still not net beneficiaries of the imperialist system. Placing Brazil and the US in the same "imperialist" category completely obscures the substantial differences in their position in the world, but so too does placing Brazil in the same category as Haiti.

 No.1278507

>>1278450
>If a hand loom weaver competes with a power loom weaver, then their products' exchange value on the market is going to represent the average of the labour time that went into each one.
Yeah, but that means their products have equal value, not that the hand loom weaver produce more value than the power loom weaver by the virtue of being more inefficient.
>Roberts is just applying this observation to international trade.
Roberts seems to imply the hand loom weaver "produces more value (in labour time) to make the same product" than the power loom weaver.
Whereas, from what I understood of Marx, the hand loom weaver produces the same value as the power loom weaver, the only difference is that the hand loom weaver wastes more time using obsolete means of production.

>That as well, but peripheral capitalists have to overcome their lack of automation with higher rates of exploitation.

That's the thing for me: it's not that workers in the periphery produce more value than the workers of the core who have access to machines by the virtue of using more manual methods of producing goods, it's that workers in the periphery produce almost valueless shit when you consider the state of the means of production worldwide, and they are therefore paid jack shit to do so. They don't produce more value.
This is an aberration, and everything that is wrong with capitalism for me: Capitalists would rather exploit harder people in the periphery and force them to use hand-looms, rather than investing into power-looms, because labor power is way too cheap for capitalists to buy in the periphery (and not only in the periphery).
>That's also why the development of productive forces in the periphery is important.
I completely agree. That's why labor time needs to be reduced as much as possible everywhere around the world. As long as capitalists can pay workers jackshit to operate outdated means of production for long hours, they will do it.

 No.1278608

>>1278315
>>South america, no communist victories
MAS



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 No.1278454[Reply]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpQ6NEAwUs

Political commentator, Darwinist, and self-proclaimed Russian Nationalist Ubersoy explained how 'Right Wing Progressivism' is 'an antidote' to modern Capitalism and Leftism. The video, over an hour long, is a manifesto critiquing the Left as 'eugenicist' while using Left wing talking points to justify his interpretation of a Conservative worldview. Anyone else notice that they are resorting to weird shit recently?
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 No.1278678

Why was this saged? Wtf jannies?

 No.1278680

>>1278518
Why is it fascism? Serious question.

 No.1278885

>>1278680
Early fascism conceived of itself as an alternative to the binary options of socialism and liberalism, a "third position" that would advance an alternative vision of modernity. This vision essentially boiled down to capitalism without the excesses of the bourgeoisie, but also without any of that gay socialist internationalism or proletarian democracy. In practice though this form of the movement could never gain enough followers, so it needed to make an alliance with the ruling class to take power, who weaponized its anti-communism to suppress the left.

 No.1279555

>>1278680
Because there's no middle ground lol, there's either proletarian rule (socialism) or bourgeois rule (capitalism).

 No.1294277

>>1278885 *it was an alternative to MARXIST socialism and liberalism. Communism is not the only form of socialism



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 No.1272277[Reply]

Hey guys. Pic is of Mulk Raj Anand, Indian socialist and writer. Reading some of his critiques on the caste system has me wondering: what is the caste system in economic terms? Feudalism or capitalism?
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 No.1272291

Or maybe inherited from feudalism. Like there's another round of talking about the role of Jews lately but I sorta see it as a merchant caste in European societies that was swept up and inherited by the capitalist society. Blacks in the U.S. are sort of a caste as well inherited from slavery. It's not the same though in either case.

 No.1272365

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 No.1272593

I would call it a variant of feudalism, since it essentially codifies what was effectively the reality of the social system in feudal Europe. In addition to the fact that serfdom legally prohibits changing your profession or any kind of social mobility, most non-serfs (e.g. artisans, yeomen, etc.) would take up the profession of their parents.

 No.1273160

>>1272277
India still unofficially practices caste system in poorer regions and its definitely capitalism.

 No.1278376

>>1272277
It's the caste system. We don't have to define it by european social categories



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