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Most MSM, AI LLM trained on shit, resources online point to the fake narrative that ukraine (the borderlands, formerly wild lands or dikoe pole) has some kind of lineage tied to Kievan Rus and that it was not entirely a fabrication by the USSR. It is a fake nation that speaks a russian dialect and fabricated its own history and identity. Give me books to prove this right because it is the truth, give me books and resources, english russian whatever,(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)
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>>2548271
>but would support Palestinian nationalism.
No they wouldn't, communists oppose nationalism, but the palestinian nationalism content of struggling against Israeli oppression would be.

>>2514455
Once the bulk of Russia's regular army is neutralized in Ukraine the PLA will storm Siberia with little to no opposition

Max Stirner talked about the fabrication of all national identities

What do you mean by fabrication? Leninist nationalist theory say rural folk moves to urban centers and becomes majority, primary culture. So, ukrainian speaking peasants outnumbered russian speaking minority. But this is how things were going in the beginning of 20th century, what happened next was everybody adopting metropolian culture which happen to be russian culture, so by the end of 20th century ukraine has mostly russian population with some rednecks speaking russo-ukrainian surzhyk and western ukrainian minority mostly speaking ukrainian like they historically always did

why defend Russian imperialism?



 

To achieve an international Socialist rule, we must ensure a full dedication to the party and it's objectives. Personal relationships that leech funds, attention, and dedication to the party must be destroyed by the individual internally to achieve an unwavering dedication to the proletariat. We've seen countless times in organizations that sexuality have led to the destruction of the individuals in power, Haz, Hasan, Maupin, MikefromPA, their downfall and degeneration? Falling from Marxist ideals in favor of dedication to sexual conquest. Our relationships to others should solely be dedicated to advancing the interests of the international proletariat, a dictatorship of the proletariat, and the return and advancement of the Comintern.
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>>2538795
how am I a reactionary

The weak form works, i.e, being within bourgeois traditionalist respectability with the party form and class consciousness being the sole deviation.

Sex, drugs, and rock and roll are merely bread (soma) and circuses for the 20th and 21st centuries.

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>>2538736
> Leftypol mods are trccns confirmed. Kill yourselves

Why do communism if I can't get free love from everybody man

Orgies = Sex of the proletariat

>>2537587
>Our relationships to others should solely be dedicated to advancing the interests of the international proletariat
amazing social policy. i am certain this will go well



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Zohran Mamdani and his acolytes are the vanguard of the mom&pop petite-bourgeoisie. Ethnically Indian, Ugandan born, NYC raised: the archetype of the small-business rootless cosmopolitan. He does not oppose big corporations with a view of nationalising them under a worker-led state. He opposes big corporations because they drive his beloved small food truck and small peddlers out of business. Zohran hates Wall Street not because he wants a Proletarian New York, but because he wants an Oriental Bazaar New York. He loves the mass of decentralised spice traders, snake oil merchants, and empanada fryers. Zohran loves American Imperialism, he just wants the petite-bourgeoisie to have a larger share of the imperial spoils, instead of getting wiped out by the haute-bourgeoisie. Bernie killed Rosa, AOC dismembered her corpse, Zohran will distribute the body parts to his small merchant friends.
The only hope for communists in this election was Comrade Curtis Sliwa. But he was never going to survive the assault of the imperial-liberal youth of NYC. The American proletariat barely exists. Its brave last soldiers are heroically resisting, but they have already lost and soon will be exterminated.
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>>2554883
Zohran/Cuomo is just an inter-imperialist squabble between the rural and urban factions of capital. As revolutionary socialists, we should fight for revolutionary defeatism and fight for rural capitalists in the cities and the urban capitalists in the country.

>>2555354
>Why would small business owners care about free buses, state run grocery stores, or affordable childcare?
Right. You know I think it's revealing something about capitalists when the bodega guild endorsed him, they saw the writing on the wall and figured it was in their interest to get on his good side. Bill Ackman was spending millions calling Mamdani a communist and how he's going to destroy New York City, then on a dime was like "call me plz" after he won.

>>2555490
Notice how the succdem cucks begin by conceding to the porky narrative, and only posit a contrary narrative in the final sentence, after everyone has stopped reading, either out of smug satisfaction, or anger at betrayal.

>>2555354
going "it's not far enough you need to push for more" doesn't work when the concessions deradicalize people and lull them back to sleep for another 40-60 years of complacency when we don't have time. also in many respects it is not only that social democracy "isn't going far enough" it's that it goes in the opposite direction of the development Leninist theory sees as the requirement. Like pointed out before, breaking up state capitalist monopoly and resetting competition is a step backward in the development of the productive forces, while seizing and nationalizing state capitalist monopoly is a step forward. So not only does social democracy deradicalize the proletariat, project the petty bourgeoisie from becoming proletarianized, and postpones revolution, but it reverses the economic developments required by revolution, at least from the Leninist perspective of seizing and nationalizing state capitalist monopoly rather than breaking it up.

>>2555563
>call me and tell me what to do, so I can do the opposite. Please give me all your plans, so I can sabotage you.
that would be very dumb.



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Daily reminder that if you aren't:
>reading theory
>organizing your workplace
>lifting weights
>practicing at a gun range
You aren't a communist. You're just a LARPer.
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>lifting weights
get a job and do calethenics

>>2555666
>You aren't a communist.
Good.

>>2555666
>practicing at a gun range
I do this therefore I get extra communist points to my stats which means other anons on leftypol have to defer to me as an authority figure and overall big shot. Yep that's communism… but I want everyone to know when you play around with real firearms it's not all fun and games… it's serious!!!!

>>2555667
Don't you have a gun range there or something




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David Camfield’s new book, Red Flags: A Reckoning with Communism for the Future of the Left, is a concise and insightful intervention into the renewed debates on the legacy of AES. Red Flags analyzes the revolutionary transformations that shaped the unique forms of class rule in the Soviet Union, People’s Republic of China, and Cuba in order to demolish anticommunist and “anti-anticommunist mythologies surrounding these societies.

Following economist Jacques Sapir, Camfield characterizes AES regimes as “mobilization economies,” in which the state mobilized “all available resources, on a non-commercial basis.” The regimes prioritized the geopolitical interests of their respective party-state bureaucracies by imposing distinct forms of “state capitalism.”

While Camfield’s “reconstructed historical materialist” analysis and lessons he draws for the Left are mostly spot-on, his use of state capitalism as a framework to understand AES is less convincing. In this review, I will briefly summarize Camfield’s central arguments about AES before discussing their broader theoretical and political implications.

Why wasn’t AES socialism?

Camfield locates the renewed interest in AES regimes in anti-anticommunism. Since Western anticommunists (of liberal and conservative variants) have equated communism with fascism, the decline of the neoliberal consensus that followed the Soviet Union’s collapse paved the way for the revival of anti-anticommunism.

Camfield argues this tendency grew among certain Maoist currents in the 1960s’ New Left and has become more prominent as the disillusionment with neoliberal capitalism has led many to a search for alternatives in recent years. Anti-anticommunists’ nostalgic embrace of rival regimes to Western capitalism (including AES regimes, but often other developmentalist regimes too) raises real problems for the socialist left today as apologism for class oppression under AES regimes becomes more widespread.

Contrary to the claims of their proponents, the bureaucratic one-party regimes governing AES societies never aimed for democratic workers’ control or the abolition of exploitation and oppression. Camfield shows how workers experienced forms of political and economic domination under state managers who pursued economic goals that mimicked capitalist growth.

However, in the aftermath of rapid industrialization campaigns and wartime mobilizations, the AES command/mobilizatioPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>state capitalism
yawn

>uncritical embrace of so-called actually existing socialism
yawn yawn

Will it be possible for private property to be abolished at one stroke?
No, no more than existing forces of production can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society.
In all probability, the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity.

- Friedrich Engels, Principles of Communism, 1847

Our theory is a theory of evolution, not a dogma to be learned by heart and to be repeated mechanically. The less it is drilled into the Americans from outside and the more they test it with their own experience […] the deeper will it pass into their flesh and blood. When we returned to Germany, in spring 1848, we joined the Democratic Party as the only possible means of getting the ear of the working class; we were the most advanced wing of that party, but still a wing of it. When Marx founded the International, he drew up the General Rules in such a way that all working-class socialists of that period could join it – Proudhonists, Pierre Lerouxists and even the more advanced section of the English Trades Unions; and it was only through this latitude that the International became what it was, the means of gradually dissolving and absorbing all these minor sects, […] Had we from 1864, to 1873 insisted on working together only with those who openly adopted our platform where should we be to-day? I think that all our practice has shown that it is possible to work along with the general movement of the working class at every one of its stages without giving up or hiding our own distinct position and even organisation […]

- Friedrich Engels, Letter to Florence Kelley Wischnewetsky, January 27, 1887

To my mind, the so-called “socialist society” is not anything immutable. Like all other social formations, it should be conceived in a state of constant flux and change. Its crucial difference from the present order consists naturally in production organized on the basis of common ownership by the nation of all means of production. To begin this reorganization tomorrow, but performing it gradually, seems to me quite feasible. That our workers are capable of it is borne out by their many producer and consumer cooperatives which, whenever they're not deliberately ruined by the police, are equally well and far more honestly run than the bourgeois stock comPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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>In 1848, Schopenhauer witnessed violent upheaval in Frankfurt after General Hans Adolf Erdmann von Auerswald and Prince Felix Lichnowsky were murdered. He became worried for his own safety and property. […] He gave a friendly welcome to Austrian soldiers who wanted to shoot revolutionaries from his window and as they were leaving he gave one of the officers his opera glasses to help him monitor rebels. The rebellion passed without any loss to Schopenhauer and he later praised Alfred I, Prince of Windisch-Grätz, for restoring order. He even modified his will, leaving a large part of his property to a Prussian fund that helped soldiers who became invalids while fighting rebellion in 1848 or the families of soldiers who died in battle.
Ah, so he was actively reactionary, as his class position, and his actions to defend his class position reveal.
>As Young Hegelians were advocating change and progress, Schopenhauer claimed that misery is natural for humans and that, even if some utopian society were established, people would still fight each other out of boredom, or would starve due to overpopulation.
Ohh… it's just… umm…. humans are gonna be miserable no matter what…. please don't make me lose my property…. I'm so miserable with all this property…. Prussian soldiers…. please defend my property from the rabble…. who are definitely just as miserable in poverty as I am in wealth… oh heavens…. I … ohh…..
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>>2552978
>yeah kanye is a nazi klansman but he made graduation
trve trve

>>2536644
Huh? I thought it was pretty well known that he was a quietist and by definition automatically a reactionary.
His bitter hatred for Hegel and German idealists, Love for monarchy, views on women, etc. He was a certified reactionary.
Shame, I liked his books and was highly fascinated by his philosophy.

>>2536678
> the ethical pursuit of personal goodness must be accompanied by a commitment to social justice, ensuring that all individuals have access to the education and resources
Such a straightforward and clear position arising from the basic principles of Buddhism yet so many failed to see it and Buddhism's history with socialism and progressivism is so sparse……..
Really wonderous how mitigated and meaningless religious teachings become once they're in the hands of a greedy authority.

>>2537008
I remember the despair I felt after seeing this photo on wikipedia's article for autism.
I used to stack up and order basically everything and was well known for it by family. It was like a person with down syndrome looking in a mirror for the first time

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>>2555608
>Buddhism's history with socialism
t. norodom sihanouk
roerichism is somewhat related but is too orientalist in comparison



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marx's statement that "everything melts into air" and "everything holy is profaned" under capitalist relations appears to be completely false. in all reality, capitalism has given us the most conservative, religious and superstitious era in all humanity. we are not more enlightened than the ancients and history does not resemble social progress.
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You mean the same Marx who called the idealist leftlibs of his time "Saints"?

Yet another thing Marx failed to consider 😢

>>2536352
>capitalism has given us the most conservative, religious and superstitious era in all humanity
>we are not more enlightened than the ancients
bruh they used to believe that the sun revolved around the earth and diseases were caused by demons
stop being retarded

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>>2536352
Unrelated to the question. But how are we allowed to post images of antique roman vessels depicting the sodomisation of catamites, but not overly stylized cartoon drawings of the same thing? Are mods really that pernicious to modern art? I saw a similar thread that made this point before. I bet I could post a Balthus painting without issue.

>capitalism has given us the most conservative, religious and superstitious era in all humanity
Not even remotely true. We are not sending 100,000 children to war in Jerusalem because the Pope lied and said the Antichrist was there. We are not burning thousands at the stake for practicing medicine. Get a hold of yourself

The religious larp in modernity is a facade. The rise of fascist mythology is a performance. It's just something they use to cope in modern society, like how women use astrology. They're not going to go to kill themselves for it.

>we are not more enlightened than the ancients and history does not resemble social progress.

Now ironically, YOU'RE acting like the fascist with this stupid, nazi shit. Technology immediately debunks anything you say.

>>2536352
>In all reality, capitalism has given us the most conservative, religious and superstitious era in all humanity.
Bro they read the blood spills of goat guts before battle 2500 years ago. What the fuck do you mean?



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It turns out that Norway's SWF almost has more money per capita than Norwegian private wealth, that is to say, its material base is such that it can realize PDD, with 2 trillion in the SWF vs about 500 billion GDP.

Roedt seems to be doing adequately, but how good are the revolutionary conditions there? I normally wouldn't advocate first world revolution, whether by the bullet or the ballot, but that 2 trillion is tempting as all hell.
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>>2536506
Here's the thing, as soon as Norway gets a gov that isn't neolib, America seizes the SWF. It can't exist without the US stock market.

>>2536506
Wonder what happened to the Rødtanon party member. he told us a very hopeful vision with real power being gained at local levels but that was a while ago now.

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>>2554658
That would be me. Unfortunately I’m a bit busy with work in computing to be politically active. But I do notice that people are warming up to the party. The leaders recently posted a poll up to 7% or more so we are gaining speed. Unfortunately so is FrP. I’m hoping Rødt can take a socially conventional approach to capture the youth. I’m glad this is being talked about on leftypol. I often get death threats on 4chan from maga americans and their bootlickers.

Norway wouldn’t exist without class struggle. The Sovereign Wealth Fund wouldn’t exist. It has always been a trad working class left country.




 

Had anyone here tried to troll South Vietnamese diaspora by asking if they condemn the unlawful murder of Prime Minister/President Ngô Đình Diệm by Dương Văn Minh? If yes, what reactions did you get?
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They will eat you if you do

I troll them by going to the nearest Viet restaurant and ordering a big bowl of Pho, eating it quietly, and thanking the nice old lady at the till. I call this trolling method "not being an autistic freak who pics political fights with randos."

A better one would be pointing out that America did not allow elections because the communists would have won, and no dem diem but most of the country in prison look up tragic hamlet program

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A thread for exploring, and celebrating, the gradual but hastening fall of the United Empire of America.

>b-bu'muh /USApol/!

This thread doesn't focus on internal or electoral news and politics. Yes, the two consecutive demented presidents are relevant but we're looking outward at the international signs of decline.
>g2/prc/
This thread wants to explore beyond just China, Russia, ZR, etc., show us the deserted corners of the empire too.

Bring your:
- shifting international polls
- seaplanes
- estranged former 'allies'
- aid AIDS

to me the biggest sign of burger reich decline is that it has to choose between currency hegemony and reindustrialization. it cannot have both.

quote from another thread:

<America's currency hegemony and world reserve currency status depends on the debt being unpaid, and the debt being unpaid depends on the trade deficit, and the trade deficit depends on importing more than we export, and that depends on deindustrialization. Trump wants to reindustrialize, but he also wants currency hegemony. He can't have both. He has to pick between one or the other. He cannot be a neo-mercantilist advocate of reindustrialization, and an advocate of America's currency hegemony at the same time. The British and Dutch were also vanquished by this same crisis of hegemony. This is why China, at least the smarter officials in China, don't want to inherit America's unipolar imperial hegemony. It is a poison pill which destroys you in the long run. Multipolarity may prove to be unstable for different reasons, but unipolar hegemony is already proven to be unstable.



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