[ home / rules / faq ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / lgbt / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM ] [ meta ] [ wiki / shop / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]

/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

"The anons of the past have only shitposted on the Internet about the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."
Name
Options
Subject
Comment
Flag
File
Embed
Password(For file deletion.)
What is 6 - 3?

Not reporting is bourgeois

| Catalog | Home
|

File: 1747098693272-0.jpg (115.18 KB, 976x549, 1747084946518-1.jpg)

File: 1747098693272-1.mp4 (7.04 MB, 1920x1080, 1747084278579.mp4)

File: 1747098693272-2.png (605.86 KB, 904x1941, 1747085554260.png)

 

🇵🇸 PREVIOUSLY ON THE HOLY LAND 🇵🇸
>>2219284

————————
🚨 Live Happenings/Updates 🚨
Sites that have active live-blogs:
• Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/

• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/liveblog/ (trigger warning)

—————————————————–————————
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
614 posts and 146 image replies omitted.

You know what the cuck-est move that I'm now realizing may actually happen?

Extradition of Elias Rodriguez to Israel to be judged there for show.

>>2278723
>>2278653
Seems like they're actually zealous genocidal maniacs who lobby for zionism 24/7, rather than random townies….

You don't look at stats like these and think people around the world are suddenly going to embrace Israelis after a live-streamed Holocaust. Shootings like these are going to become more common as each and every one of our governments do everything in their power to crack down on anyone who had the gall to call what's happening a genocide.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/04/08/how-americans-view-israel-and-the-israel-hamas-war-at-the-start-of-trumps-second-term/

File: 1747951403988.png (110.52 KB, 260x229, IMG_2490.png)


I had a crypto-zionist Jewish "anarchist" literally use the term "goyim" and say they were tired of "goyish nonsense" and it felt like they were calling me the n-word.



File: 1745964161842.jpeg (756.07 KB, 1800x2404, IMG_6889.jpeg)

 

I read the communist manifesto, and it said nothing but environmentalism but I know other communist like Stalin Fidel Castro and Xi Jinping are environmentalist but other communist don’t like the environment
12 posts and 2 image replies omitted.

>>2247802
>>2278584
>>2278814
Real grifting hours.


>>2278816
some people think that writing anything after 1924 is grifting and lenin was the last writer anyone needed

File: 1747926219502.png (65.81 KB, 602x435, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2278774
marx would never do this except when he did

File: 1747939611025.jpg (23.69 KB, 492x428, 1285770302993.jpg)

This might actually be the worst post ever made.



File: 1747726946924.png (274.39 KB, 500x378, ClipboardImage.png)

 

https://www.kurdistan24.net/en/story/841072/%C3%B6calan-urges-new-brotherhood-pact-in-message-from-imrali

>In a gesture of international engagement, Öcalan extended his gratitude to leftist thinkers and global allies, particularly French philosopher Alain Badiou and Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Žižek.

>“I thank the intellectuals, especially Badiou and Žižek, who have sent messages of solidarity and support for the peace and brotherhood process. I hope we can come together through internationalist and socialist efforts,” he said.

the movement is cooked if he's thanking žižek
it's all a big cia ploy
43 posts and 7 image replies omitted.

>>2277898
It's cute when they start trying to borrow points they don't understand like "Rojava is doing what Lenin said, it's basically Dengism"
Mainly happens when they've backed into a corner over something stupid

File: 1747899982080.png (810.73 KB, 2048x2048, apo-ibo-1.png)

>>2277904
didn't know there was an english translation of it, I highly recommend reading this

öcalan is an opportunist and a chauvinist

>>2277898
>Chiapas
;_;

>>2277063
autism score will alwayts be autism level

Ocelan is a midwit and a plagiarist.



File: 1740671664772.png (891.23 KB, 1043x645, ClipboardImage.png)

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/ocalan-dissolve-pkk-historic-statement
Some highlights:
>long history of violence from which the PKK emerged
>emphasis on hundreds of years of alliance between Kurds and Turks
>need for democratic solution, faith that now it is the time
>respect to Bahceli and Erdogan’s calls to move on with a resolution
>PKK (all armed groups) to leave weapons to engage in a democratic resolution process
it's so over
590 posts and 91 image replies omitted.

HEY LOOK THE CIA OPERATION WAS A CIA OPERATION ALL ALONG. People died for a anarchist lie

>>2269692
>Our primary goal is the Freedom of Leader Apo
realing hammering the point that this is a cult that can't get over the german state using a demented ocalan to sabotage the movement and has to rescue their 'great men' instead of building this so-called 'antiauthoritarian postcapitalism'

>>2269692
I'm sorry, but you should really cut your loses and move on, this isn't healthy for anyone.

>>2269692
wow it truly is over

What happens to weapons and soldiers since the dissolution? Do you think that removing many fronts from play with allow for a much stronger hand with regard to Syria and DAANES?



File: 1746396779855.webm (10.77 MB, 852x480, supercontinent.webm)

 

I often hear that humans are hard-wired to care more about ingroups than outgroups. This is often used by reactionaries to justify capitalism, imperialism, colonialism, racially homogenous ethnocentric societies, etc, but I found that this entire way of thinking falls apart very quickly for many reasons.

1. It's spatial but not temporal. Due to physical proximity and consanguinity, A man might care more about his children than about his neighbors. A man might care more about his grandchildren than his neighbors. He might even live long enough to see the birth of his great-grandchildren. But can it really be said that he cares more about his 10x-great-grandchildren, totally potential people who haven't been born yet, in the far future, more than his own neighbors, merely because of consanguinity?

2. The spatial nature of it is already dissolved by capitalism. We live in a world where anyone can potentially migrate anywhere at any time. Sure there are legal barriers, but there is also a way around those legal barriers, and even in countries with strict immigration restrictions, there is a constant exposure to foreigners through tourism, international media, trade, etc. If the people aren't arriving, their commodities and media are.

3. The ethnocentricism and homogeneity is already absurd on its face. For example we see people who are clearly not white engaging in white supremacy, partly because they have been brainwashed to dehumanize themselves, but also because the definition of what constitutes "whiteness" has been stretched to such goatse'd proportions as to be unable to return to its original narrow definition, causing the concept itself to dissolve and diffuse, that is, to self-sublate, into absurdity.

4. There is no putting the genie of technological development back in the bottle. Even if resource scarcity and climate change cause us to take many steps backwards, we will develop alternate "tech-trees" with whatever resources we have left, or go extinct branching into new potentials even as the situation becomes increasingly unfavorable for our present unsustainable way of life.

5. Interdependence of nations and peoples is now so obvious and so powerful that there is a strong case to make, viz. the imperial boomerang, that not caring about non-proximates (i.e. foreigners, people of different faiths, people of different ethnicities, people of different ideologies etc.) constitutes not caring aboutPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
14 posts and 1 image reply omitted.

>>2254077
>Some guy in Maine isn't going to care about some stranger in Alaska just because they're both white
that's exactly what OP is saying, he's just also pointing out that a guy isn't even going to care about his own kin if he's only a potential person in the distant future or an unknown historical person in the distant past.

>>2254099
>Hazing works, because once everyone goes through a shared ordeal it’s easy to sympathize with the one another.
In the field of religious studies they call this a "credibility enhancing display."

Vid related, particularly 2m13s

>>2254102
Eh I consider religious ritual different from hazing. Hazing is like just purposely putting someone in a stressful, painful, or embarrassing situation. Stuff like mass prayer and communion aren’t that stressful. Shared oppression also creates a shared sense of community.

Of course, as I said, the Left’s got none of that. It fractures by design.

File: 1746402646520.png (311.29 KB, 634x429, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2254121
I'm not saying religious rituals and hazing are the same, I'm saying they both belong to the broader category of "Credibility enhancing displays". For something on the venn diagram that overlaps, consider the guys in the Philippines who take the stations of the cross so seriously that they get themselves literally crucified (complete with real nails driven through their palms or wrists) as a public display of devotion to their belief in Christ.

File: 1747902820390.mp4 (18.06 MB, 1280x720, evolve.mp4)

>>2254030
>ywn live on the columbia supercontinent in the calymmian period of the mesoproterozoic era in the proterozoic eon 1.462 billion years ago

why even live?



 

I remember saying in one of the threads here that Drumpf is hitting finance porkies in the only place that it hurts, and there is going to be retaliation. Feeling vindicated right now. Besides, fucking up the US Treasury bond market could potentially threaten the US Dollar's position as the de-facto world currency, and Amerilards definitely don't want that.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2025-04-24/how-bond-vigilantes-made-trump-blink-video

>>2278550
having trouble, there?



File: 1746226875306.jpg (18.78 KB, 720x474, Wildfires.jpg)

 

These wildfires are the result of Israeli Ethnic Cleansing. Fast growing European pines were planted on the sites of demolished Palestinian homes and farms to keep them from returning. Zionism has created both a political and ecological disaster.
34 posts and 6 image replies omitted.

>>2253587
>The site is full of ignorant people, how new are you?
Nobody under like 30 is still using imageboards, anon. Have more faith in people and maybe this place can actually be better.


>>2253606
You're wrong, but under-thirties aren't a majority on imageboards.

>>2251513
>>2253575
Divine intervention, perhaps?

>>2251376
REAL anti-imperialists (communists) support Jewish nationalism against British imperialism

>>2253574

nazis are pro israel




File: 1745417021883.jpg (5.08 KB, 220x150, images(64).jpg)

 

Why are we acting like capitalism even has 20 years?
It doesnt, can you say honestly oh hy 2050 these will be the new capitalist hegemons by gdp as if this shit has 20 years left.
Neofeudalism call it what you want but not capitalism.
44 posts and 5 image replies omitted.

>>2241143
What you’re talking about it’s the means of production not capital. How the means of production is organized is what makes the system not that they exist. You’re just doing an annoying version of “capitalism is when you trade”. No, capitalism is when the means of production is owned privately by capitalist. Capitalism is only possible in industrialized economies with a bourgeois democracy.

Also before you say it bourgeois democracies can also be dictatorships or even constitutionally monarchies. As long as the bourgeois of that society control the means of production.

>CAPITALISM WILL FALL
<actually it's going to still be capitalism but with a different name

commodities are produced for profit not for use that is the distinction between capitalism and previous markets where things were mainly produced for use. generalized commodity production means that things produced for profit are the rule and production for use is a marginal exception.

its the same way that the agricultural revolution created surplus food which gives surplus population and the rise of property money and debt, the industrial revolution creates a surplus of commodities

>>2239770
This retard thinks money = capitalism HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2240452
>>2240454

for real, reading this discussion feels like that old video "whats heavier a kg of feathers or a kg of steel?", but both are saying one of them is heavier



File: 1746115560900-0.png (1.08 MB, 1384x938, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1746115560900-1.png (388.07 KB, 1024x589, ClipboardImage.png)

 

why are so many[*] anarchists also lifestylists, moralists, christians, essentialists, superstitious, etc and not schmittians, hobbesians, machivellians, sadeans, nechayevites, nihilists, etc. instead of acknowledging that hirearchy and authority exists objectively and that its not intrinsically "good" or "bad" so you can do whatever you want with it, they accept authority only if its the Good™ Authority, ie moral authority, the authority of god, the authority of a parent pushing their child out of the way of an oncoming car or w/e other example they use for "just" hirearchy.

it always seemed strange that an anarchist would ever accept an authority to deem what is "just" and what is not.

[*]inb4 i know the first sentance is a vague generalising presupposition, im basing it upon stereotypical internet anarchists like r/anarchism as well as the history of christian anarchism being much more developed and prevelant than say christian marxism, and mystics like hakim bey, etc, if you are an anarchist who is or is not like this pls articulate your position and critique other anarchists
32 posts and 4 image replies omitted.

I've always saw a link between their love for utopian ideals like Kropotkin over actual theory and analysis leads them into all sorts of literary revisionism to build more fantasies to fall into. I saw an "Islamo-anarchism" before and Islam is probably the least Anarchistic religion on earth because from cover to cover it repetitively shames the listener for not immediately conceding to a central authority (God -> the prophet -> the leader of the Ummah…). The flag is ironic.

I also don't think it's a generalization to focus on the hypocrisy among anarchists because from Proudhon, to Bakunin, to Nechayev, to modern day Redditors they always start introducing "authoritarianism", that they just relabel to hide the contradiction. The most obvious example is their assertion of "horizontal authority" to deal with the structural necessity of authority to manage the means of production. You also have Bakunin/Nechayev "secret societies" of "professional revolutionaries" who dictate from the top-down, though I'll concede most of them don't idolize Bakunin these days.

It's no coincidence a common cliche of anarchists is to tell other anarchists to stop reading. I find ironic echos to my past, falling out of Islam because I started to have questions, and I was told that it is "sinful" to ask "tough questions." I found the same sentiment in Anarchist communities, which are *always* dogmatic hellholes, where they give up all critical thinking towards some imaginary authority. In reddit terms, it would be the mods and in real life it was the more popular/senior people in the group who the group were better friends with. These people, or group of people, would always hold the "correct" line, despite them *never* engaging in any sort of study and this was accepted readily by the "lesser" members of the community. They abhor critical thought, if it isn't "approved" prior. None of the questions I posed were met with any serious, concrete analysis, instead I would get answers to questions like "how do you punish people for crimes if prisons are abolished" with "in anarchism, nobody will feel the need to commit crimes." It's heaven.

Engels, in Socialism, Scientific and Utopian called "his" socialism "scientific" only to juxtapose it with this utopian socialism that they characterized as no different from religion, rather than it literally being a science. There, you can see the obvious connection to why anarchists would try to attempt toPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


reminds me of the gun debate in america. you have two sides, guns are bad and the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. lenin says only a good guy with a state can stop a bad guy with a state. the stereotype anti-state draws from their own experience with authority where parents teachers and cops are always being mean to them because they live in a bad state. they have never experienced a good state. meanwhile people living in lawless failed states support benevolent dictators because stability is an upgrade from getting murdered in the street. so like a lot of thinks its narrow minded subjectivity with a dash of chauvinism and you can see this reflected in their opposition to historical communist projects in general because instead of comparing them relevant to their actual level of development they compare them to the ideal conception of own conditions and dont understand why the state is making people plant food and think its unfair because they themselves have never had to skip a meal and dont know where burgers come from.

File: 1747864626730.png (29.12 KB, 550x400, 1633123508522.png)

>today I will remind them

Because annarkiddies are edgy liberals



 

On this anniversary of the Bloody Week, something has struck me, how come socialism and more specifically marxism, in its history since its inception, has been so similar to early christian history ?

I mean think about it, a movement that is mostly aimed towards popular, first kind of chaotic but quickly unified by a main theory, this being Marx. The movement born from this (and other writing, arguably stands for other socialist movement, be they formed from Marx' works or completely separate in origin), with the birth of disparate and not always so united communities, which for a good while were usualy persecuted by the established power. With the development of studies surrounding socialism further on, we see the birth of dogmas, notably in the established socialist states like the USSR, where those established theories becomes official policy. Meanwhile in non socialist states, the communities stay either persecuted or at best tolerated. With the variety of movements and ideas, I find it quite close to early christianity and its oh so varied theological takes.

On another note, I do find interesting how much leftist organization do use religious speech patterns in general, with key words carrying their almost self evident meaning, with a common ideal and struggle and so on. The idea came to me as I was thinking about future history, how will, in say 400 years, these leftist communities be studied ? Could a comparison to medieval/early modern jewish communities also be drawn out ?

Any opinion on the matter ? The comparison could probably be expanded. I'm just kind of curious.

>>2277958
Socialism is the sharia law of christianity, kind of like how Taoism and Confucianism are complimentary but simultaneously autonomous from eachother.

lol



Delete Post [ ]
[ home / rules / faq ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / lgbt / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM ] [ meta ] [ wiki / shop / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]
[ 1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 /8 /9 /10 /11 /12 /13 /14 /15 /16 /17 /18 /19 /20 /21 /22 /23 /24 /25 /26 /27 /28 /29 /30 /31 /32 /33 /34 /35 /36 ]
| Catalog | Home