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BOLIVIA AFTERMATH THREAD
The ballots spoke, the centerright with Paz won.
The slogan
<Capitalism for all!
Evo is in his Kamehouse in the mountains saying
>Plepleplease don't change the constitution
Arce…he is just a painting in the Palace
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Evo, the man who's dick condemed the revolution

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GUESS WHO GOT OUT OF THE RETARD BOX??
<Bolivia’s former interim president Jeanine Áñez freed from prison after Supreme Court ruling
https://apnews.com/article/jeanine-anez-bolivia-prison-ca6625b53c6ebdab7c44f8809f73035d

>>2531200
so you dont know either, meaning you're useless

>>2528717
I think the real takeaway is that while reformist politics can do a lot to advance the position of workers and peasants in imperialized countries, it ultimately faces the exact same limitations as social democracy in the first world.

rip bolivian social democracy



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Hello, anons, I'm creating this thread about what where you share some controversial views on have. I have some views that seems to clash with left leaning view and honestly I don't know how to reconcile my leftist views with those controversial views I have, here some topics that clash with leftist tendencies:

>immigration in general

I'm not against immigrants actually, but I do think bring millions of immigrants from very radical different culture is recipe for creating tension and division inside of a country

>genes and behaviors

Yeah, that one is a hard, I think genes play a strong role on human behavior, I actually told that to some leftist in real life and I got shot down by being called "eugenicist", only a gay dude agree with me because he says that he didn't choose to be gay, he was born that way and could see other behavior having gene influencing too

>religion

I don't support religion at all, I think they are reactionary as fuck, especially desert religions like christianity, judaism and islam are especially bad and very very reactionary and should be fought against.

So far as I remember those are to topics that cause me to clash with my leftist tendencies, do you have any opinions and views that you considered to clash with your progressive views?
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>>2552351
This used to be a pretty common take or at least a widely held perception of how humanity would turn out.

>>2552434
When does Hasan pretend to be religious? From my understanding he's non-practicing. A lot of the Muslim stuff he says as a bit. He does shit on atheists fairly often which is annoying (considering atheists are statistically far more likely to agree with him on pretty much every issue).

>>2552437
>When does Hasan pretend to be religious?
>He does shit on atheists fairly often

You just debunked yourself.

Honestly I'm tired of the Hasan glazing in here, yeah he's good on 50% of shit but some of you all white knight this one demsoc streamer who doesn't understand any Marxist theory so hard.
Why? Because his haters are r-tarded MAGA fanatics and zionists? Because he's hot? Actually listen to his takes please.

A general prohibition of child labor is incompatible with the existence of large-scale industry and hence an empty, pious wish. Its realization – if it were possible – would be reactionary, since, with a strict regulation of the working time according to the different age groups and other safety measures for the protection of children, an early combination of productive labor with education is one of the most potent means for the transformation of present-day society.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/append.htm
I think every child above the age of nine ought to be employed at productive labour a portion of its time, but the way in which they are made to work under existing circumstances is abominable.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/iwma/documents/1868/machinery-speech.htm

Love the H3 podcast
Anything other than socialist democracy doesn't work
People who love regimes while living in a first world country are cringy as hell



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Anti-imperialism has been shoehorned into leftist discourse just like useless idpol (not talking about the existence of gays) was in the 2010s. The great difficulty of developing class conciousness in service-economy liberal states is made even more complicated by rethoric pushed by feds that the workers in these states can't be socialist. This is used inside this states to prevent organization and outside these states to promote petite-nationalism.
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>>2552056
made up shit anon didn't say award.
try quoting what was actually said next time.

The USSR became imperialist in nature near its collapse (and agruable eariler).

While i understand what OP means, and I agree I wouldn't say feds are pushing this, proles in exploited countries are saying this, and they are right that westetn bourgesisie are profitting off of them, they neglect the fact the western proles are also exploited (although to a slightly lesser extent). I said this on another thread eariler but it is true and many maoists have this belief

>>2552059
India
Sudan
Afghanistan
Vietnam
Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Haiti
Romania
Democratic Republic of Congo
Cambodia
Indonesia
Thailand

>>2552515
>Afghanistan
>Democratic People's Republic of Korea
>Romania
Service economies. DPRK and Afghanistan have literally the highest numbers of small markets in the world and Afghanistan is expanding into tourism and accommodation and other bs.

>the rest

Excluded by me initial post, since they're like the 10 out 100 third world countries where the service sector isn't dominant.

>>2552459
>The USSR became imperialist in nature
nah, it never was, it was always giving more than it received from its bloc



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My father gave me these things, or rather, I inherited them. He likes to discuss politics with me (he's an anarchist). What do you think, comrades?
He also gave me a rug with the anarchist cat on it and a Spanish Republican flag.

Those are rather nice anon. I collect communist and communist adjacent paraphernalia when I can get my hands on it. Here's a picture of some pins I got in berlin

>>2552363
beautiful



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What do you guys think of pan-germanism?
Is it good or bad and why? In general,do you think that pan-nationalism can be compatible with socialism?
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>>2548805
Weren't Marx and Engels (especially Engels) sort of Pan-Germanists as well?

>>2548805
>le horsefaced woman in robes as a representation of a country x1000
why are euroids so uncreative?

>>2549113
Based Hepp-Kexel-Group got it right

I'm against it because Germany is basically an entire nation of redditors

Nazi thread dni



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In February this year, a 23 year old man from Tierra del Fuego Argentina traveled to Russia following an internet ad about free college education for foreigners in Ekaterimburg(?) University. He wanted to travel and explore the world. When he arrived he was asked to sign papers he couldnt read and was sent to a training camp for 3 weeks and from there to Donetsk. He managed to contact his family and begged them to get him out. His father is pleading the Russian ambassador to let his son go home. According to the message recieved by his parents, he arrived to Ekaterimburg university with a group of foreign students, mostly brazilians and they were all tricked in the same way.

https://www.losandes.com.ar/sociedad/es-argentino-se-fue-estudiar-rusia-y-termino-error-la-guerra-ucrania-el-pedido-la-familia-n5968879

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>>2551641
Literally every Zigga here is honest about supporting Russia against Ukraine, typically as a means to an end.
That's not the case with the vast majority of the "anti-campists" and "true" leftists, who are not honest about the fact that they're actually supporting Ukraine against Russia. This is evident from at least two facts: (1) their commentary is completely lopsided against Russia to the point of never saying a harsh word about Ukraine; (2) their activity in /ukr/ is disproportionately centered about moments of high-grade Ukro hopium, whereas a genuine anti-campist with no dog in the race would have more uniform temporal behavior, posting during both moments of Ukro hopium and Ukro doom, for the simple reason that such moments don't motivate his or her ideological stance.

>>2552266 (me)
…oh, and (3): some of them don't even bother to change their /uhg/ filenames.

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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
<Red Apple edition

Thread for the hellish discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the Earth

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🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md

📺 Facts™ 📺
(sponsored by Eagle Burger Freedom Institute)
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>>2551117
she makes me think of carrie in homeland

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>>2551701
It's very funny that elected officials are crashing out like this publicly on social media over nothing. Oh no the new AG of Virginia was mean in private text messages lmao.

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Soon

>>2551701
DARK WOKE IS BACK AND I THINK ITS FUNNY



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Colombia releases US drone strike survivor, claiming no evidence links him to drug trafficking
The prosecution opened a preliminary investigation into Obando’s alleged involvement in drug trafficking, but was forced to drop this because “until now, they didn’t find any evidence or testimony that could indicate that this person committed a crime on national territory,” a prosecution source told El Pais. If the former suspect was involved in criminal activity, as claimed by the US Government, the prosecutors received no evidence of this.
https://colombiareports.com/colombia-releases-us-drone-strike-survivor-claiming-no-evidence-links-him-to-drug-trafficking/

Exxon funded thinktanks to spread climate denial in Latin America, documents reveal
Exxon funded rightwing thinktanks to spread climate change denial across Latin America, according to hundreds of previously unpublished documents that reveal a coordinated campaign to make the global south “less inclined” to support the UN-led climate treaty process.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/nov/03/exxon-funded-thinktanks-to-spread-climate-denial-in-latin-america-documents-reveal

Bolivian top court annuls former interim president sentence and orders her immediate release
Court President Romer Saucedo told the media on Wednesday that the sentence was annulled based on “several arguments” and the vote of seven of the nine justices. Saucedo explained that the decision was based on finding “violations” of due process during Áñez’s trial through ordinary legal channels. Áñez was convicted for her role in assuming the presidency in a controversial National Assembly session following the deadly 2019 protests that led to the resignation of then-president Evo Morales (2006-2019).
https://apnews.com/article/bolivia-anez-supreme-court-sentence-401a5c1f8e13f9a86f6b4a02deb6b13d

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YouTube Removed Hundreds of Videos of Israeli Human Rights Violations to Comply With Trump Sanctions
In compliance with a Trump administration effort to punish critics of Israel’s genocide in Gaza, YouTube has deleted the accounts of three prominent Palestinian rights groups, wiping several hundred videos documenting Israeli human rights violations in the process.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/youtube-deletes-videos-israel

US Starbucks workers prepare to strike if contract is not finalized by next week
Unionized Starbucks baristas voted to authorize an open-ended strike ahead of Starbucks’s high-traffic holiday season, announced Starbucks Workers United on Wednesday. The union said workers are prepared to strike if a contract is not finalized by 13 November, which is the company’s Red Cup Day, and strike actions could hit more than 25 cities and escalate if there is a lack of progress.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/nov/05/starbucks-baristas-union-strike-contract

FAA to cut flights by 10% at 40 major airports due to government shutdown
The closure has also raised concerns about already thin staffing among air traffic controllers, the FAA said. Insufficient staffing at some FAA facilities has disrupted some flights since Oct. 1. Earlier this week, Duffy told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that he could “shut the whole airspace down” if the shutdown drags on.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/05/faa-cuts-flight-capacity-shutdown.html

Chicago day care worker detained by immigration agents at drop-off time for children
The employee ran from a vehicle into the Rayito de Sol Spanish Immersion Early Learning Center after officers pulled into the parking lot right after her, Alderman Matt Martin said, citing witness accounts. The employee was detained at the entry while telling authorities she has papers, he said. Authorities went inside to question several people around 7 a.m., when the facility opened, according to witnesses.
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Tuesday’s Election Result Is a Rebuke of Trump More than an Enthusiastic Embrace of Democrats
The election results in Virginia, New Jersey, and New York have put wind in the sails of a Democratic Party that has been on the defensive since Trump’s re-election. For the more moderate Democratic Party pundits and politicians, the victories confirm their belief that a populist, anti-woke platform is the way to go. Spanberger opened her victory speech with the assertion that her campaign “sent a message to our neighbors and across the country…and the whole world, that in 2025 Virginia chose pragmatism over partisanship.” Sherrill, for her part, centered her acceptance speech on “prosperity,” tying appeals to America’s “democratic” tradition to people’s need for economic security. She added that the election shows that “we’re not going to give into our darker impulses,” without naming the transphobic, racist, and anti-immigrant vitriol which defined much of her Republican opponent’s campaign and Trump’s politics. Democratic Representative and House Speaker Hakeem Jeffries, who two days ago told CNN anchor Jake Tapper that the future of the Democratic wasn’t Zohran Mamdani, but the House Democratic caucus, said on Tuesday night that Democrats “won all over the country talking about the affordability crisis.” An ABC News article confirms that the races in Virginia and New Jersey centered on the issue of affordability, but the discourse about how to resolve it is much different in these states than in New York.
https://www.leftvoice.org/tuesdays-election-result-is-a-rebuke-of-trump-more-than-an-enthusiastic-embrace-of-democrats/

Italian Fascists’ Love Affair With Israel Started Long Before Giorgia Meloni
Few nations have such a disconnect between the public and the state when it comes to Palestine as Italy. The Italian government is one of just three – the others are Germany and the United States – that have continued to supply major conventional weapons to Israel since 2020. Alongside attack helicopters, naval guns and parts for Israel’s F-35 fighter jets, Italy’s prime minister Giorgia Meloni has continued to provide diplomatic cover to her Israeli counterpart Benjamin Netanyahu, refusing to take even the symbolic step ofPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>Colombia releases US drone strike survivor, claiming no evidence links him to drug trafficking
Casually repeating imperialist framing.

Fuck you, bad news anon! You suck!

ᴉuᴉlossnW hangs



 

How come everywhere I look, Pissrael has its genocidal hands in every country experiencing trouble?

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/10/30/757871/RSF-militants-committing-genocide-in-Sudan-s-El-Fasher-with-UAE%2C-Israel-backing--Analyst
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Lmao kek @ all these anartoddlers ITT denouncing the anti-imperialist multipolarista RSF in their fight against the westoid zionist Soros lumpen NGO fodder (Darfuri women and children)
Sorry sweeties but accepting weapons and funds from racist slave owning pedo sheikhs and killing everyone at your local hospital is a necessary evil. If you radlibs actually read a fucking book (including Lenin's National Socialism - the Highest Stage of Communism) for once you'd understand.

If you disagree with wiping out the reactionary races maybe you should get back to >>>/reddit/ or stick with hanging out with your smelly polycule at your anarchist bookclub lol
Pics related: Actual Socialists (as opposed to bipoc demifurry lgbtqueef trnny social studies professors lul)

>>2546093
why do you complain about complaining if it doesn't stop the complaining, hypocrite?
because you're a seething zionist trying to shut down discussion by sowing demoralization and pretending communication of a problem isn't the first step of addressing a problem

>>2551415
your satire isn't funny, try saying what you actually think.

>>2551433
Dunno mate, maybe some of us are sick of the retarded ass "color revolution" spiel and calls for "c-c-critical support!" for every neolib comprador ghoul out there. Mao anon was right. There's people trying to "acktually" the RSF.
Past few months have also seen posters here denounce Serb and Malagasy "zoomers" for protesting against their pro-zionist IMF backed comprador leaders (muh color revolution!!). Even had a few trying to paint fucking Duterte as a kind of quasi-socialist "based" anti-imperialist multipolarista.

Anyway, you wanna know my position? I wish <someone> would do something about this. If I wasn't a poorfag and had some money to spare I'd donate it to whoever is fighting these freaks. Don't even care if it's NATO intervening at this point. The vids going around on Telegram are nauseating. Even worse than the Gaza/Ukraine stuff.

>>2548571
Or maybe you're just an ultroid retard



 

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>>2551349
it's why the US, as a post industrialized advance capitalist state, is caught in zugzwang against China.
Marx in Communist Manifesto
>"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society."
>"The bourgeois mode of production is the last antagonistic form of the social process of production but the productive forces developing within bourgeois society create also the material conditions for a solution of this antagonism."
as US/Wallsteret invests trillions more into AI and automation, it devalues labor and erodes market legitmacy.
if it slows AI and automation, it falls behind China and loses global competitiveness.

but you can't stop a tidal wave. we're seeing a qualitatively leap in productive forces that is different from the old productive forces. it's not merely just efficient tools of the 1st to 3rd industrial revolution that enhanced human labor. it's an entire new way of producing value because it replaces human labor. this disrupts the circuit of capital:
M — C — P — C — M
(Money — Commodity — Production — Commodity — Money)

if labor is no longer central to production, then profit becomes harder to extract, and capitalism’s internal engine begins to sputter. AI automation invalidates the foundations of capitalism and late stage capitalist states. the lack of need for wage labor destroys the foundation of surplus value extraction. the lack of meaningful scarcity undermine markets, prices, and profit motive. lack of employment creates social unrest and galvanizes social revolutions to transform the relations of production and super structure. china already created a revolutionary marxist leninist super structure in the 1950s. they had their revolution. they just needed the productive forces to catch up to the superstructure so then it can synthesize onto a higher relations of production.

>>2547554
Don't move to China, it's not like you can help, there's an excess of skilled labor anyways.

>>2547774
If it provokes such a war for its own gain then I doubt it would fight in it, or at least do more than a few symbolic strikes.

>>2547815
China won't be dealing with India, Pakistan and Bangladesh will be. They have far too much trouble with them to seriously provoke China.
>>2548041
Pakistan is also a nuclear power. I get what you're saying about how they have potential to rise like China did, but it's not happening under Modi or any other presumably Hindutva leader who succeeds him in the foreseeable future.

>>2532938
then why did Mao purge Deng?



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