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>Kanye West should never have been invited to headline Wireless.

>This government stands firmly with the Jewish community, and we will not stop in our fight to confront and defeat the poison of antisemitism.


>We will always take the action necessary to protect the public and uphold our values.


https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/2041515702855643347

Well that's one 'American boy' we don't want in this country.
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>>2771678
The only reason Hitler was bad was because he was anti-semitic.

>>2771678
liking hitler when black = banned liking hitler when jew = good

Roma are actually very badly discriminated against in real life however they do not get 1% of the media attention Jews get. Jews are not discriminated against in any way.

>>2771923
Bullshit they got the best disney musical

>>2771923
Neither are discriminated in relation to the abject antisocial behaviors they display. Any racial diaspora that complain about opppression and discrimination while peacefully living in the west is larping or trying to take shit from you or get free shit from the state.
Objectively speaking the only people who could be described as discriminated in any real way in the west post-WW2 are gay and trans, mostly the latter in 2026. They faced harsh top-down repression and the common threat of horizontal violence while at the same time browns and jews had anti free speech laws erected to protect their feelings because some skinhead beat up a black guy in brawl once after tagging a swatsika on a wall in 1993.



 

Why is it always the LGBT community that is the most imperialistic of them all.

They always say LGBT for UKKKraine, while they scream Trans rights are human rights and get HRT imperialistic nation like Israel.
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>>2772797
It's the will to power OP

uKKKraine just represents White power (Western supremacy)

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>Russia invades another country for the sake of land expansion
<Its le gays who are imperialists

>being a gay nazi

Guys who cum at the sight of dead ukrainian kids loves making shit threads like this.



 

<TONIGHT edition

As of right now 2 hours remain.

>Tonight, I'm gonna have myself a real good time

>I feel alive
>And the world, I'll turn it inside out, yeah
>I'm floatin' around in ecstasy
>So don't stop me now
>Don't stop me
>'Cause I'm havin' a good time
>Havin' a good time

previous thread: >>2770772

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American soldiers RN:

>>2772893
Yes, also huge damage to NATO, confidence shook in the US being able to protect maritime trade, and guarantee energy transport to Asian allies, push for Green energy and decarbonization, weakening of US weapons stock and deterrence in Asia among others.

—❗️🇺🇸/🇮🇱/🇮🇷 WHAT HAPPENED, BASED ON CURRENT INFORMATION:

– The U.S. has agreed to stop all attacks against Iran for a period of two weeks.

– In return, Iran will not strike U.S. assets or other targets in the Persian Gulf during that time period.

– The Strait of Hormuz remains CLOSED during these two weeks, but if Iran doesn’t open it, the war will resume (according to Trump)

– Israel is NOT part of the ceasefire and Iran will continue targeting it.

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>>2772146
BUY
BUY
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>>2772912
>– Israel is NOT part of the ceasefire and Iran will continue targeting it.

source



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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<KAFKA TRAP EDITION


>Containment thread for Americans to get sensitive and defensive when called out.


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>>2772715
I wish someone could go back in time and just kill all those youtubers

>>2772773
wtf we need to get rid of these devious deceitful christians now

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>>2772787
I caught a glance of CNN on the TV and it had some title like "TRUMP COWED INTO CEASEFIRE" or something like that.

>>2772794
I mean that's pretty much what the fears of Taqiyya are, yeah. Like Muslims will gladly tell you what they believe, I'm pretty sure their term for missionary work amounts to "inviting someone into Islam".

Funny enough I got told to a face by a customer that Martin Luther King Jr. and Hitler wanted to team up to "get rid of" the Catholics because we start all the wars and run all the banks.

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shout out to demsoc LaRouche man

Igotat get nto the of that is of therefoeri nto fo that which is of tinot the of therefore which is the how of how tnhhat is within and isnide the outside of that is inside time and space qnd hte apsace qand time that gets time in time that meks time run which is is the space of time that is like a vector field of time that his liek if therefore into of



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Reading this site was the biggest redpill I ever taken, literally a class of uber rich rig the game in their favor and they don't give a fuck about the little man, ridiculous, I thought this whole idea of some minority class controlling stuff was in the realm of conspirary tard, from both left and right, after reading a genuine rational sociologist arriving at this conclusion made me mad and sad, fuck this shit.

https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/power/class_domination.html

The bigger question to me is: how the fuck we change this arragement? A tiny class of uber rich is destryoing the world in the name of wealth and power, what the fuck?
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>CAPITALISTS…. RULE THE WORLD?
You don't say, OP

>>2771582
no buddy, the people's wall street, people's blackrock and people's JPMorganchase is not the solution

>>2771339
>I saw Marx as old thinker
"We're modern, we aren't worried about those old historical contradictions" - young German nazis
>kind of marxist
lol no, he's like a religious evolution denier who thinks Darwinism is wrong because of "missing fossils" or something:
https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/theory/marxism.html
<Marxism's emphasis on historical materialism is too narrow a base for understanding the complexity and variety of power structures across time and places. The idea that all power is rooted ultimately in the ownership and control of the means of production, with the ensuing class struggle providing the motor of history, does not fit the origins of civilization in the years from 3000 to 2300 B.C.E., when most property was held by the state and there was no class conflict; nor the 2500 years of empires of domination, when military networks were in the ascendancy; nor the 900 years after the fall of the Roman Empire, when the ideology network called "Christendom" combined with the independent armies of the nobility to create the framework within which a class-ridden capitalism and a closely intertwined system of nation-states began to rise to the fore.
<In short, there have been great stretches of history when economic forces, no matter how broadly conceived to accommodate the Marxian claim about the primacy of the "mode of production," were not primary in either the first or last instance. Moreover, there were other epochs where the activities of the ruling class were far more important in understanding new developments than any "class struggle" with direct producers, who were far too localized and lacking in organizational infrastructure to challenge the dominant class, let alone to be considered a class themselves.
https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/theory/alternative_theories.html#marxism

>>2771498
You forgot Sandianon, the goat.

>>2771986
>the origins of civilization in the years from 3000 to 2300 B.C.E., when most property was held by the state and there was no class conflict

Two of the subjects of the epic of gilgamesh is the conflict between pastoralists and the city, and the tyrrany of a quasi-divine "god king" for those that don't know.



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Why are so many communists opposed to state's rights to national self-administration? Isn't it the job of the local working class to sort out their own contradictions? This just seems like rainbow imperialism. I think an orthodox ML approach would recognize the conversion of many red states to internal colonies and their right to secession. Does not the brain drain of workers from red/rural states to blue/urban states mirror migrant labor from the imperial periphery? In the town-country contradiction, we should support the country.

Because States Rights aren't real. In the US they only exist when the goal is to defend or further reactionary politics and hinder progressive ones. Whenever thr most reactionary elements of American electoral politics they don't give a crap about states rights and federally enforce whatever.

>>2772445
> In the US they only exist when the goal is to defend or further reactionary politics and hinder progressive ones.
Isn't this just rainbow imperialism?

> In Brazil there now reigns a semifascist regime that every revolutionary can only view with hatred. Let us assume, however, that on the morrow England enters into a military conflict with Brazil. I ask you on whose side of the conflict will the working class be? I will answer for myself personally—in this case I will be on the side of “fascist” Brazil against “democratic” Great Britain. Why? Because in the conflict between them it will not be a question of democracy or fascism. If England should be victorious, she will put another fascist in Rio de Janeiro and will place double chains on Brazil. If Brazil on the contrary should be victorious, it will give a mighty impulse to national and democratic consciousness of the country and will lead to the overthrow of the Vargas dictatorship.


https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1938/09/liberation.htm

>>2772488
>Isn't this just rainbow imperialism?
Were the northern states practicing imperialism on the confederacy during the US Civil War?



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>>2767709
>>2767691
They would rather prefer if you were Volunteering or Running for Office/Federal Council instead.


>sus

that's mi waifu
rude owo

>>2767588
>>2768140
also
Do it. Run for office
See how that goes :^)

>Canada is a Warning to the Rest of the World!

>go into random retail store
>10/10 Indian bombshell behind the counter
Either the IRCC are a bunch of gooners or India is entirely composed of smoking hot babes

>The federal government has decided to end funding for MMIWG2S+/Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women



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Why is it so hard for Marxist-Leninists to admit that the bureaucracy of their regimes end up constituting a class with their own interests different from ordinary workers?
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>>2772073
I'm using ML mostly as a stand-in for someone who thinks China and the USSR are legitimate AES and such, the ones less ideologically committed to "anti-revisionism"

>>2771534
exactly

How are you gonna have a dictatorship of a class that theoretically is supposed to abolish itself? You have schizophrenia

>>2770983
same reason it's hard for people who say this to explain how it constitutes "a new class" without abandoning marxism. Djilas who popularized this view completely dropped communism btw. arguing that having a higher income and some material benefits like dachas for vacationing is a class is the kind of thing Trotsky criticized, but it keeps happening
From Isaac Deutscher the biggest trot historian
>What this so-called new class lacks is property. They own neither means of production nor land. Their material privileges are confined to the sphere of consumption. Unlike the managerial elements in our society, they are not able to turn any part of their income into capital: they cannot save, invest, and accumulate wealth in the durable and expansive form of industrial stock or of large financial assets. They cannot bequeath wealth to their descendants; they cannot, that is, perpetuate themselves as a class
this is why I could never take the 'new class' and the maoist/hoxhaist debate about capitalist restoration in the USSR seriously. the only clear restoration happens after perestroika and even then only by 1990 with Gorbachev's 500 days program do they seriously start debating the transition to a market economy and mass privatization. by 1991 gosplan was abolished but only few privatizations happened before 1992. so in short, they were never a new class in the soviet union and only after it was abolished some of the party higher ups and pro-capitalist camp used their advantage to secure wealth and positions in the new capitalist russia. and only some, it's a myth that they all became capitalists. studies show that most of these came from managerial posts in industry and banking or had backgrounds in science and engineering. not to mention the huge role organized crime played.

and trotsky defined the problem as a workers state hindered by a layer of bureaucracy that had necessary roles like sustaining a planned economy but also dangerous, oppressive political power. yet he also explained that the rise of this bureaucracy was unavoidable due to the Russian civil war, the failure of other revolutions, the shitty conditions of Russia and so on.
>Trotsky once predicted that the Soviet bureaucracy would fight for the right to bequeath their possessions to their children and that Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

some of it is just cope, some of it is the prudent instinct that just denouncing the problem as ossified bureaucracy leads to saying "well next time we simply wont do that :)" and then failing to learn from successes and failures

that said they were not really a distinct class in the sense of materialism. they worked for the state like anyone else and whatever privileges and allowances they accrued were only really different in scale not in kind. they were essentially a caste of factory managers on the scale of an enormous society. whatever is unequal and resented about the managers cushy office and distance from the actual labor he disciplines others to perform, he doesnt own the factory.



 

Is Khrushchev /ourguy/? What does /leftypol/ think of him? Was he right to shit on Stalin in the Secret Speech?

From Socialism AI:

From a Trotskyist, materialist-historical standpoint, Nikita Khrushchev (First Secretary 1953–1964) was not a corrective of the Stalinist counter-revolution nor a socialist renewer. He was a leading figure of the Soviet bureaucracy—a managerial caste that emerged out of objective conditions created by a revolutionary past and the protracted international isolation of the USSR. Khrushchev’s policies represented attempts by layers of the bureaucracy to stabilize and legitimize their rule amid profound social and international contradictions, not a restoration of genuine proletarian democracy or socialism.

Is the Trotskyist take right?
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>>2766856
Brezhnev was better, Brezhnev was probably the greatest communist of all time.

>>2767110
That picture is falsely titled btw. It's the vote to elect Khruschev as premier in 1958, not to remove him in 1964. Neither Voroshilov nor Bulganin were part of the Central Committee in 1964

>>2771874
Brezhnev was a lion but his biggest L was Afghanistan

>>2771841
>And there is no balance when it comes to the dark side of force
I know this is a star lore thing, but this really depends on the writer, and to some extent George Luca's current thought process. Because Lucas has said very different conceptions of what this dark side is. Either it's part of the force's yin and yang. Or it's a cancer to the force.

Read grover furr to learn the truth



 

How come when it comes to colonialism all leftists suddenly become believers of trickle-down economics?
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>>2771992
It’s still bad when the US replaces those governments instead of the local workers

>>2772013
Moralism lmao

>>2772024
It’s materialism, the US makes the socdem treatlers like Evo Morales look like good guys and patriots

>>2772025
No it isn't, the democratically elected will flirt with the US, allow Amazon, Blackrock, and Palantie to operate inside their borders and to profit from the workers.

>>2772262
It’s the only mov available until proven otherwise



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