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I'm bothered that people, especially in imageboards, can't get past the barrier of anti-capitalism and embrace misanthropy. Capitalism is just a consequence of anthropocentric thinking and there is no harm that capitalism causes to the world that can be separated from humanity. Human beings are shit and deserve to be extirpated from this world, even as a form of mercy. Embrace misanthropy: it is the end or barbarism, but it has always been barbarism. If life has radicalized you, understand that the root of all evil is man, allow him to die and leave this world.
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Fuck off with your Yahweh LARP
Kill yourself. Go seethe somewhere else. Punishing the working class for not being able to win is retarded, youre an anti communist, youre anti worker, youre a bitter 15 year old loser who needs to go outside, stop playing video games, touch grass, and start drinking with other lefties irl and do shit.


No, but i think the concept of eternal and everlasting torture for reactionaries is extremely based
The worst thing about Hitler’s death is that it was over in seconds
Westoid reactionaries absolutely deserve the Hell on Earth that is global warming and global thermonuclear war and a mass extinction
I’m a bitter 25 year old that’s very openly an omnicidal nutjob
>Le baby muh working class
Please slit your fucking throat and die you idiotic cunt
Are you not a worker yourself?
Why the fuck do you speak as if either of us are separated from muh proletariat you fucking fag?

Do you see proles as a nice big horsey to ride into power like 99% of this board and thus need them to be your super heckin wholesome adult children who need a gay fucking hugbox even from other anonymous proles online?

The Western working class didn’t “fail”, they just utterly lacked in solidarity with the international proletariat and their fellow workers in their own countries; they actively chose and continue to choose reaction and we live in the reality they chose, fuck em

I stand by communists and proles in the periphery and no one else


i remember when acting like this wasnt considered embarrassing and was actually the norm in the 2000s


The 2000s were better than the modern shittified hugbox internet for sure


not really, people were just as dumb back then

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>read a menshevik proleterianized petty-bourgeois future Trotskyite spooked intellectual whose entire raison d etre is making shit up about the proletarian republic which treated his cancer during his alleged torturous gulag stay
Its funny when reactoids talk about Solzhenitsyn as this self-taught historian and the вce и вcя when it comes to Jews or any other thing they could pin on the specter of communism. His magnum opus, the Gulag Archipelago, was a self-admitted "literary investigation." Day in a life Ivan Denisovich was published with Khrushchev's blessing and made mandatory reading to discredit his political opponents, the hard-line Stalinists. He's a regime intellectual but most are blinded by ideology to see this and are unable analyze him as a product of that time and that place.

His only good book is the Cancer Ward and that's he because he accidentally rediscovers Gorkiesque socialist realism. His antisemitism is just dressing for anti-communism. Actually, they're equivalent.


Wasn't he a hardline Tzarist and Orthodox fanatic? The idea that he thought that "Bolshevism" was a Jewish plot to kill ethnic Russians is just icing on the cake.


Functionally the Mensheviks supported the whites in the civil war.

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nice meme


western cope voice: "it's all gonna fall apart any day now, china is well known for shoddy building standards!"



what did he mean by this?


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This thread is for the discussion of cybersocialism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

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Idk for my research it's good enough. If doing non local cosmology is your thing then go for it. We got people doing e.g. spacetime with torsion, wormholes and describing solid state systems as black hole geometries in one dimension higher - literally do what you want.


what if the universe is just like a collective high, man


Is this how y'all aspire to be?


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no, I aspire to become one with the Omnissiah


If so then communism must be about ending this bad trip


Thoughts on Turkmenistan? To me its system seems very similar to Belarus, blatantly socialist in all but name. Though they seem to favor a strictly neutral foreign policy rather than Belarus' strong anti imperialist stance.
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add it to the list of
actually existing socialisms in history
>Ottoman Empire
>Safavid Persia
>Mutawakillite Imamate of Yemen
>Qing Empire
>Tsardom of Muscovy
>Triple Aztec Alliance




You forgot the Mongol Empire.


You forgot the Klingon empire


>Their socialized economy is self evident and practically common knowledge.
The existence of Turkmenistan isn't common knowledge.

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I'm a Social Democrat. I’m down for whatever works, and I hope we all are willing to work together to make that happen.

The hurdles that would have to be overcome for full Socialism to be implemented - via revolution or constitutional reform - are mountainous. Do you support social democracy in the short term as an alternative?
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Better image for image 2


Yeah but how do you get the socialism?


Revolution, organize people and do whatever it takes to destroy liberalism's cultural, ideological, and economic hegemony


Or when they shot striking workers in June 1848 in France, because Lamartine was delusionnal enough to think people wanted him as president, only to end up doing 0.2% at the elections, less then the guy in jail.


No, We wont support concessions that will be revoked when the threat calms down, and whenever socialists and moderates worked hand in hand, the social democrats ended up betraying them and leading to the victory of reactionnary forces afterwards.
In France in 1830, radical revolutonnaries overthrew Charles X, only to be betrayed by the liberals to instal Louis-Philippes and essentially just change the flag.
And when he got overthrown in febuary 1848,
there was a short time of peace, but the life conditions didn't improve much for the workers so they striked, and in June, the provisional govenment of Cavaignac and Lamartine murdered them, leading to the rise of the Parti of Order and Louis-Napoleon Bonaparte.
in 1870, profiting of the French defeat in the Franco-Prussian war, Parisian workers rose up, the new republic of social democrats and conservatives murdered them.
During the Russian revolution, social democrats and Bolsheviks rose together against the Tsar, but the new governement was a liberal one, that wished to continue to send young men to their deaths against the Germans.
in the german revolution, the social democrats used proto-fascists freikorps against communists revolutionnaries, leading to the rise of the nazis…
And this continues to this day, in Spain, the social democrats funded fascists terrorists to kill basque civilians, in the Uk they did it with loyalists terrorists. It's the same thing all the time, fact is, social democracy is just the moderate wing of fascism, it serves the same purpose, to stop a revolution…

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First they came for the cows, and I did not speak out - because I was not a cow
Then they came for the pitbulls, and I did not speak out - because I was not a pitbull
Then they came for the American Bully XLs, and I did not speak out - because I was not an American Bully XL
Then they came for the cats, and I did not speak out - because I was not a cat
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me

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Tories shoring up support with their target electoral bracket.


>actually believing they will ever implement this


How dense do you have to be to actually get done for TV licence lmao.



Just keep your windows closed and they won't be able to get in.

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I don't mean state actors and the bourgeoisie that are absurd for the purposes of propaganda, I mean the idiotic fuckers that feed into it, the people anticommunist propaganda is made for

Has anyone else noticed the arguments against communists tend to be bafflingly absurd and seemingly unserious? I don't even mean the six gorillion claims, I mean the way most anticommunists argue as if they're joking, as if they know truthfully that they don't believe in their claims and simply see their fellow proletarians as scum and are anticommunist solely out of a vicious refusal of solidarity
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reactionaries have very low intelligence, so of course dumb shit works


No. Anticoms clearly have a mind and goal in their lives, and they're generally much more reasonable because they accept field facts and not disniformation from Moscow. Grow the fuck up tanks


>have low intelligence
>are definitely better off
Pick one terminally online unsuccessful faggot


Isn't that most "reactionaries" are just well-off or educated, even moreso than the workers?


you don't have to be smart to make money

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Remember he even cucked Trump. Plus we know he wants a greater Israel.
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Because of him some germs still cry abou Versailles


yes, israel is the only state practicing volkism/hilterism in the modern era.


Every zionist leader since 1948 is Hitler, there's nothing special about Netanyahu. I wanna punch ""left-wing zionist"" for saying it's all his fault, and things would be better if it wasn't for him.
I'm 100% convinced that zionism is a manifestation of jewish fascism and it's the greatest cancer of ideologies since fascism in the 20th century.


Except Bibi hasn't at least for now gotten any of those things other than the billions in aid


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The new Hitler is him. Long live democracy.

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anti-puritanism needs to be a core plank of any modern socialist party- it's clear it's not only corrosive to art, but to any form of organization, since nobody can organize without feeling hounded by the judgement of others. its why the DSA was so toxic even way back in 2019.
this isn't a new phenomenon- there's an excellent feminist piece on "trashing" in the feminist milieu in the mid 70s, where moralists would purge black women like they now purge trans women- through gossip and social exile.
no organizing is possible or ever will be possible without proper comradeship- you need to back your comrades up when they're accused instead of ditching them. solidarity is vital and moralism seeks to destroy solidarity through obsessive focus on public morality and normalcy.
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>[A communist] is not a communist because they disagree with my preferred methods of achieving communism
Pure ideology. And these mfs speak of "left unity" after saying bullshit like that.

Read Engels' writings on marriage then, whatever.


> You are just showing your conservative views right in the open.
Why is it that you assume he’s a conservative and a reactionary because conservatives occasionally use this term?
Nazis speak English and German, are all English and German speakers Nazis?


This is "vote with your wallet" liberal logic.


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the widespread, worsening nature of moralism is because of, not in spite of, the breakdown of traditional christoliberal moral hegemony. when accused of being into Problematic Things a very common counter tactic is to insist No You're Problematic Actually. this schizopolitical breakdown of moral authority jsn't limited to fandom, of course. the fastest way to split a fascist group is to ask if italians are white. the fastest way to split a maoist group, weirdly enough, is also to ask if italians are white but worded differently.

whether any given thing is Deontologically Good or Deontologically Bad is a matter of chaotic opinion, which is why deontology only works as a general social morality with a class of moralist experts, such as the priests, sharia jurists, confucian scholars, or whatever else, so you end up with this double sided issue- is any given Thing (whiteness, imperialism, furries, whatever) Good or Bad, and what constitutes the Good or Bad category- this leads to constant litigation of moral laws that change daily.

to see this in a very public but mostly harmless in real terms discourse, just look at how furries talk about alleged zoophiles, what constitutes zoophilia, whether wanting to fuck tony the tiger, who does not exist save as an image on cereal boxes, is acceptable etc. it's not all fun and games and tony the tiger, of course- just look at how reactionaries are working to frame being gay as inherently pedophilic while neopuritans are busy arguing that fiction is real life and therefore consuming depictions of Bad Things is evil.

its becoming rapidly impossible to be a weirdo or even mildly nonnormative in public. its agreed upon across the political spectrum calling somebody a pedophile over a random anime avi is totally fine if they disagree with you. bizarre stuff.


Fiction is so commodified that to most people theres not really a boundary between real life & fandom or whatever anymore.

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