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>>2613637
Im all for dunking on huwhites but that is just disingenuous lmao

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>>2615752
This is difficult to read anon, you should just put them all below each other in chronological order

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Can someone give me non-bullshit explanation of how exactly Western PROLETARIAT benefits from imperialism?

The West exported their investments and know-how and helped in the industrialization of the third world. Not just China, but also SEA, Asian tigers, India, Brazil, Poland, Malaysia etc. This resulted in the exact opposite of what happened in colonialism. The Western industries were hollowed out this time, and outsourced to the third world. Now sure, the Western bourgie benefited from this, but the money didnt trickle down much. That's why in the 1970s you could support a family and live a decent life doing a simple blue collar job and now you cant. So where exactly did the Western PROLETARIAT benefit from this imperialism?
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>>2536200
You say this and then say every terrorist attack on US and Europe are false flags. So which is it?

>>2555972
good post. too bad it got ignored by the only two pseuds to reply.

>>2549625
lol

"settler-colonialism" (a nonsense term btw) won in the US. natives, Hispanics, AAs, etc have all been molded into the american identity and class structure of capitalism. settler colonialism stopped a century ago when the frontier closed. we are no more "settler" than the UK is

settler colonialism just describes all conquest throughout all human history. the idea of a "settler" has little distinction in class relations (as it currently used to mean white people). we just already have a word that better describes the process described in SC, imperialism

>>2615435
>"settler-colonialism" (a nonsense term btw) won in the US.
Do you support zionism? If not, why.

>>2615435
Settlerism continues by maintaining a perpetual underclass whom can be displaced whenever whitoids need to move somewhere en masse



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>>2615648
Redditoids need a map projection of what would happen if a terrorist cargo ship blocks Mississippi river's mouth. USA is much more vulnerable to infrastructure terrorism attacks than China is

>>2615652
>why do you people trust constitution?!?! Instead, you should trust our conspiracy theories!!!

Yeah, nah

>stated bourgeois oppresses non-stated bourgeoisie


You don't even understand what a bourgeoisie is, lmao

Besides, WHY would stated bourgeoisie side with proletariat against non-stated bourgeoisie? Like, where's class solidarity, which stated bourgeoisie of every other country on Earth is showing to it's non-stated brethren? What makes Chinese stated bourgeoisie so special, lol?

>Erm, what the sigma? Epic fail! *Snap* I'm adding that to my cringe compilation! The cake is a lie!


>But there's a difference between implementing socialist economics, and putting in place a system that will one day lead to the conditions for a classless, stateless society.


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>>2615596
>Yet they do. Curious
Yes, as we all know, if the leadership of our centralized, top-down decides it wants to act in the worker's favor now, it will continue to do so indefinitely. That's why that country still exists to this day and is incredibly prosperous. Oh wait!

>>2615657
Thanks for the riveting contribution faggotron.

>>2615658
>>why do you people trust constitution?!? [sic] Instead, you should trust our conspiracy theories!!!
You should trust your own senses and mental faculties. China identifying as communist does not automatically make it communist.

>You don't even understand what a bourgeoisie is, lmao

Then explain it. Tell me why I'm wrong, not simply that I am.


>>2615670
>You should trust your own senses and mental faculties. China identifying as communist does not automatically make it communist.

I see that China is communist. All the different evidence points towards it, INCLUDING their constitution. You, however, have to invent conspiracy theories spanning multiple arguments, from fake constitution to secret bureaucratic class



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What even is the point of this shit anymore? The great turdworld cope that China, Russia, India and maybe Turkey and Brazil is gonna team up into an anti imperialist avenger and destroy the Epsteinian McWorld AmeriKKKa imposed upon us has been shattered to pieces, none of these guys do anything to defend Iran when the Iranians were bombed by the "Israelis", Russia is playing footsy with the US and India and China are more focused with exploiting their neighbours than confronting blatant American overreach under Trump. Any response that does exist is mostly scattered and reactive (i.e buying gold to protect from Fed interest rates) rather than proactive (i.e doing currency swaps and bond liquidation to harm the greenback).
In absence of any hope in changing the global world order i have seen third worldists now retreating and openly defending national bourgeoisie in the name of anti imperialism (such as Korotaev defending Ukrainian oligarchs as barrier against US investments, etc) and it's like …. We are against imperialism not just because we hate the US. We are against the US because American imperialism encouraged corruption and extractivism in the Third World, while American backed Bourgeois organizations crack down on labour rights world wide. Playing defense for corrupt and extractivist oligarchs in the third world in the name of building productive forces, that just undercut the reason why so many people became anti imperialist in the first place.
And as global crises started to ramp up, with metabolic drift and climate change ruining shit, the old rhetorics of building productive capability and bourgeois nationalism is just not gonna be relevant for long. This whole thing is a dead end politically.
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>>2615002
If you look at the complication rates that unborn children and their mothers face in the third world, then unironically yes Lmao

>>2614984
nah ur definitely schizo sorry lol youve been at this for months and every time people tell you that isn't third worldism you just do it again

like you have lumped marxism-leninism anti-imperialism and mao-zedong-thought into "third worldism" and none of those tendencies are third worldist they literally mainstream communism. third worldists as they exist are marxist-leninist-maoist and in the phillipines and india they are actually mega based.

"third worldist" westerners on twitter are retards but that isn't even what you are talking about, again, your problem is just with mainstream communism. maybe the real problem is that you also dont understand basic marxism?

>>2592128
>When people here complain about third worldism they are usually complaining about very straightforward Leninism, something to keep in mind
TRUKE

>>2615405
If you can't tell he's not being very serious you might be retarded as well, or at least some kind of autist

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yet another example of a post that is NOT pro-settler, pro-colonial, or pro-imperialist being responded to as if it is. This is what trolls do. It has nothing to do with actual anti imperialism. it is cointelpro derail meant to breakdown communication on the board.

>>2615608
> every time people tell you that isn't third worldism
i don't think it's third worldism. i've been clear it has nothing to do with actual anti imperialism. TWister is just pseudo-third-worldist trolls literally twisting words on here as ragebait. i thought that was clear.

I'm not OP btw.



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>>2610585
Deutschland's Bill Maher


Ich habe nichts zu sagen.

>>2610585
Shitlib

>>2610601
Adventurist

<A German journalist detained aboard the Freedom Flotilla ship Conscience has accused Israeli prison authorities of raping her during custody.

<Speaking publicly about it for the first time, Anna Liedtke said the assault took place during a strip search while being transferred between Israeli prisons after Israeli forces intercepted the Gaza-bound humanitarian vessel in fall 2025.


<“We were transferred from one prison to another, and during the strip searches I was raped,” she said.

https://nitter.net/DropSiteNews/status/2004089586562035951



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How can you bd a leftist thsts agaisnt ai? Ai is the best thing that has happened to leftism since the great depression er. On the one hand its accelerationist on the other hand it actually makes workers democracy possible for the first time realistically.
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I'm not against or for AI, I think that we have more pressing issues (continuing to advance leftism, waking more people up to wealth inequality, etc) that are a pressing concern.

This is not to say that for-profit industries raping the earth in the name of profit is acceptable, it isn't and it never will be.

I always kinda just saw ai as a nothing machine crafted by the bourgeoisie to be used by petty bourgeois to replace real workers

>>2615685
You deserve to lose your job and access to a wage and become de-proleterianized into a potentially homeless person or suffer from malnutrition? I think you should reconsider your choice of words here. Sure, it's more so that the worker deserves to not have to do the labor anymore, not that they "deserve to get replaced by a machine because there is nothing special about them". Sounds like you are speaking like a capitalist apologist, this is not a capitalist board.

>>2615684
>LLMs are replacing "real workers"
such as……………………………………………?

>>2615687
the petit bourgeois dont become homeless when losing their class status, they become proletarians lmao



 

Can we talk about the new revelations about Noam Chomsky and Jeffrey Epstein?

>The prominent linguist and philosopher Noam Chomsky called it a “most valuable experience” to have maintained “regular contact” with Jeffrey Epstein, who by then had long been convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor, according to emails released earlier in November by US lawmakers.


>Such comments from Chomsky, or attributed to him, suggest his association with Epstein – who officials concluded killed himself in jail in 2019 while awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges – went deeper than the occasional political and academic discussions the former had previously claimed to have with the latter.


>Chomsky, 96, had also reportedly acknowledged receiving about $270,000 from an account linked to Epstein while sorting the disbursement of common funds relating to the first of his two marriages, though the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professor has insisted not “one penny” came directly from the infamous financier.


>The emails disclosed on 12 November by the Republican members of the US House oversight committee generally detailed the correspondence Epstein had with political, academic and business luminaries, including the Bill Clinton White House’s treasury secretary Larry Summers and Steve Bannon, the longtime ally of Donald Trump. Further, they reveal Epstein and Chomsky were close enough to discuss musical interests and even potential vacations.


>Perhaps the most telling of the Chomsky-related documents in question was a letter of support for Epstein attributed to Chomsky with the salutation “to whom it may concern”. It is not dated, but it contains a typed signature with Chomsky’s name and citing his position as a University of Arizona laureate professor, a role he began in 2017, as first reported by the Massachusetts news outlet WBUR.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/22/noam-chomsky-jeffrey-epstein-ties-emails

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Imagine you are head of an academic department like anthropology or whatever and you get an invite by a rich guy who is eager to donate and who also knows other rich guys. He tells you that he is a bit of a renaissance man and into "the big ideas", whatever these are. Why, just recently he saw something about ancient aliens building the pyramids, and isn't that interesting. You nod politely and just think about the big bag of money you want for your colleagues.

You can all whine how that is disappointing behavior but this is a nothingburger and you are all retarded.

>>2615335
The fact Chomsky was friends with a known convicted pedophile and billionaire is enough for me to believe this is not a nothingburger but a very real somethingburger.

>>2570962
Wtf I'm an anarkiddie now

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>>2600880
Is that Fidel Castro?



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Hondurans protest Asfura’s election, demand full vote recount
Thousands of Hondurans converged on the National Electoral Council headquarters in Tegucigalpa on Friday night, protesting the proclamation of right-wing candidate Nasry Asfura as president-elect and demanding a full recount of ballots to ensure the legitimacy of the November 30 election results.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/honduras-protest-recount-nasry-asfura/

Brazilian judge puts coup plot convicts under house arrest after former police commander flees
Silvinei Vasques, the former director of Brazil’s Federal Highway Police, was extradited to Brazil on Friday night, after he had secretly entered Paraguay and attempted to board a flight to El Salvador using Paraguayan documents. According to Brazilian police, Vasques tore off his ankle monitor on Thursday and drove to Paraguay in a rental car.
https://apnews.com/article/brazil-coup-plot-house-arrests-5b74f4b78ecf7f802c62434f38f128a3

Milei eyes 'mattress dollars' as 'fiscal innocence' bill wins approval
Under the new framework, which applies only to taxpayers with assets of up to 10 billion pesos, participants will not be required to report changes in their wealth, nor will their spending be monitored. The ARCA tax and customs revenue agency will levy income tax solely on declared income, regardless of any increase in assets, which will not be scrutinised.
https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argentina/milei-eyes-mattress-dollars-as-fiscal-innocence-bill-wins-approval.phtml

Ukraine's anti-corruption agency attempts raid of parliament in new graft probe
Ukraine’s anti-corruption agency said on Saturday that security services were blocking its attempt to raid parliament, as investigators alleged that sitting MPs were implicated in a new graft probe. The probe comes at a delicate time for President Volodymyr Zelensky, as he seeks better terms for Ukraine in US-brokered peace taPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Vermont’s climate superfund law pushes forward as federal lawsuits seek to block it
With a history of public service dating back to the 1990s, Minter was tapped in September to be the program manager for the state’s new Climate Superfund Act. That legislation, overshadowed by a pair of federal lawsuits seeking to dismantle the law, seeks to hold major oil companies accountable for their pollution. Now, Minter is pushing the law forward while the courts consider whether the state law will survive. On Monday, the federal government again asked the courts to void the law.
https://apnews.com/article/vermont-sue-minter-chris-van-hollen-climate-change-industry-regulation-2e92da784fbacc1b94b20a7711de8495

New law means home insurers can stop covering wildfires in Nevada. Could California follow suit?
Passed this fall by the Nevada legislature, the law clarifies that insurers in the state will be allowed to remove coverage for wildfires from their policies. It also authorizes insurers to offer policies that only cover damage from wildfire. Nevada, unlike California, has no FAIR Plan equivalent already doing this. Experts said California won’t be following suit anytime soon. But in some ways, homeowners in the state are already facing a similar landscape.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/california-wildfires/article/nevada-wildfire-home-insurance-21250875.php
https://archive.ph/G8ee4

Mayor Adams looks to veto roughly 20 more NYC Council bills on key issues: sources
Among the measures the mayor is seen as likely to veto is a bill that would prohibit federal immigration authorities from maintaining offices for any purposes on city Department of Correction property, an issue that has become especially fraught amid the Trump administration’s hardline crackdown on undocumented New Yorkers. Other bills facing likely vetoes include ones that would: Grant more street vending licenses Prohibit for-hire vehicle companies like Uber from deactivating drivers without caPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Epstein and the Clintons: As Hillary Launched Presidential Campaign, Epstein Feared Exposure
Since Jeffrey Epstein’s second arrest in 2019, the Clintons have spent considerable effort distancing themselves from the enigmatic financier, and they are currently fending off House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer, who threatened contempt proceedings after the political power couple refused to testify this week regarding their relationship to Epstein. Epstein first came into public view after accompanying former President Bill Clinton on a 2002 tour of Africa, aboard Epstein’s infamous Boeing 727 plane, later dubbed “Lolita Express.” Abundant photos from that Africa trip—with Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker—have just been released by the Justice Department. Through a spokesperson, Bill Clinton has acknowledged traveling on Epstein’s jet during a humanitarian tour of Africa in 2002, but has said he knew nothing of Epstein’s crimes, never visited Epstein’s properties, and ended contact in 2005. In a Justice Department interview in July 2025, Ghislaine Maxwell downplayed Epstein’s connection to the former president, telling Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, “President Clinton was my friend, not Epstein’s friend.” Yet as Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign ramped up, it was Epstein looking to duck the Clintons. Epstein was facing increasingly dire legal consequences in South Florida, stemming from his years-long sexual exploitation of young women and girls. The glare of a presidential campaign risked unraveling what Epstein and his friend and ally Ghislaine Maxwell had so effectively constructed over the years, as they were increasingly associated with the spectacle of “Clintonworld.” In May 2007, the news media drove a scandal around the relationship between Hillary Clinton and Vinod Gupta, an Indian technology executive accused of corrupt dealings with the Clintons related to inflated consulting fees and travel on his company’s jet. In a May 26 email, four months before signing his “sweetheart deal” to avoid federal sex trafficking charges, Epstein predicted to Maxwell that Clinton’s opponents would “attack her ‘friends’ in any way they can,” and he warned her that Clinton’s presidential run could bring unwanted attention to Maxwell. He wrote to Maxwell, “you can see the papers are starting on hillary ‘friends’ Vin gupta,” he wrote, adding, “I think you are better off, not having your name associated.”
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Ever since the retirement of Fidel Castro in 2006 ever self-described communist country (all five of them) has been a market-socialist economy. China and Vietnam seem to have taken a liking to it, North Korea seems to be indifferent, I don’t know anything about Laos, and Cuba seems to be reluctant to it. Is only supposed to be temporary for until the communist movement gets back on its feet or are we stuck with Labubus and billboards forever?
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>>2615254
whats the cool third option your alluding too then?

Leninists get so mad when someone suggests there might be more to communism than just nationalization and eventual capitulation to capitalists.

you don't like Chinese socialism? then move, libtard

>>2615361
Not really. People get upset at the pragmatic compromises being made by the few nations which have had proletarian revolutions. They creatively apply Marxism to their local conditions, and, to protect their gains, compromise in other areas based on tactical and strategic considerations. These compromises are being made in the context of a global system which is still very capitalist and imperialist. Unless you have a way to make proletarian revolution break out simultaneously in all the countries of the world, especially the richest and most developed, the countries which have had proletarian revolutions will continue to make compromises not based on betrayal of principles, but based on practical considerations and creative application of theory to local conditions. To get angry about this strikes people as an ultra-left error because if you seized power in your own country, you would be forced to make similar considerations.

It's the present, because everything else has crumbled. It's a symptom of the degradation of the left globally after losing the references of the last century.



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>>2615351
an ancient example of necessity would be "fate" or "destiny". in the oldest piece of extant literature of our species, "the epic of gilgamesh", the narrative plays out as a tragedy, where gilgamesh attempts to fight death yet fails. in homer's iliad, achilles chooses glory over life by the decision to meet his destiny in troy. in greek plays like oedipus rex, oedipus fulfills his destiny by the attempt of his parents to subvert it; here then, it is the abandonment of fate which leads to one's confrontation with it (this is the same narrative as in shakespeare's "macbeth", with the 3 witches representing the powers of cruel fate, like the arthurian morgan le fay). plato in politiea says that the highest principles are the fates (past, present and future) who bind together the "chain of necessity". these fates are the aryan goddess of time, synonymous with the norns and the morrigan; also the anglo-saxon concept of "wyrd" (e.g. the arthurian text "gawain and the green knight"). this consciousness of destiny then ignites protestant theology, particularly soteriology and eschatology. here i would rebuke both nietzsche and various marxists who historicise the tragic (i.e. apocalypse, or revealed necessity) in two ways. niwtzsche says that tragedy as a genre in greece begins with "socratism", but as we see from older texts, it was always there (such as odysseus' meeting with the trojan ghosts, where achilles as an undead "shade" laments his condition, stating that he would rather be a living slave than a dead hero. the consciousness of death was already here). some marxists have attempted to say that capitalism with its periodic crises spawns catastrophic or apocalyptic thinking as a superstructural effect, with engels also comparing smith's "invisible hand" to the protestant hand of providence, i believe. its of course true that protestantism is the religion of capitalism, but even Jesus preached that the end was nigh. so then, necessity in narrative is an ancient device to illustrate the bind which man incurs in his condition to mortality. everything is conditioned to its end.

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What do these statistics mean, realistically?

>>2615368
Not that much, having debt isn't inherently bad, but obviously having 280% debt to GDP isn't great either.

>>2615369
It's great for the loaners!

>>2615351
yes we all know you defend capitalism from a religious viewpoint that much is obvious



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