/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

What if it was just a massive LARP group

>>2575309
well technically MONATIO were indeed larping as KR revolutionaries, see here >>2547935
picrel is some more trve KR [child] soldiers for comparison

>>2574168
>tried to purposely mislead the reader in order to feed into "le evil gomunists" narrative
Eh, well, that's one excerpt. Vickery at least was pretty sympathetic towards the Vietnamese communists (from what I've read) and was fairly Marxist in his approach. I think he's one of the more left-wing historians who wrote about the KR.

everyone pays attention to MONATIO, nobody pays attention to the Sip Song Chau Tai that existed for well over a decade

BIGGEST TRVKE

There will always be Communists who side with Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc in general support for national liberation movements.
There will always be Communists who side with Luxemburg, Pannekoek, Bordiga, etc and oppose it for varying reasons.
And of course there will always be those who take a stance somewhere in-between on the national question, such as the followers of Trotsky.

We can argue the theoretical positions for the rest of our lives while quoting one pamphlet or another.
But regardless of the theoretical positions, all Communists are opposed to the ongoing genocide, settler colonialism, racial apartheid and we all support armed revolutionary resistance to imperialism. Even if we disagree on what the eventual state in Palestine should be like.
Instead of the autistic and pointless infighting which is fine during times of relative calm, during a time of crisis like the present isn't it better that we focus on more urgent matters and wider issues facing Palestine today which unite us?
Rather than this focus on the specifics of the character of the nation that ultimately emerges, which is something we currently have no influence over given most factions in Palestine are not Marxist but Islamist in nature?

Every day there are more stories of "Israeli" and American atrocities against the Palestinians, every day the situation on the ground changes.
This isn't the time for hypotheticals, we must deal with the situation as we find it.

>>2573839
>according to the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union ,

Really bro, that's your reasoning? Your religious texts said we'll all live happily ever after?

>>2575177
Every second sentence Cutrone says is wrong. Literally NO ONE believed Hamas was ever going to win a military war against Isn’treal. The beauty of October )th was that it proved Zionism is a paper tiger.

>>2574696
As I have stated multiple times before, the USSR considered Traditional Physical Anthropology (ie. Craniometric Racial Typology) to be a legitimate Science and Soviet textbooks recognized Race as a Biological concept, with the massive caveat that they explicitly clarified that the Biological concept of Race has nothing to do with the Bourgeois Social construct of “Intelligence”, a Superstructural concept that constantly changes based on the needs of the Material Base (Mode of Production), with an individuals “Intelligence” being purely a result of their Environment/Upbringing/Material Conditions, so their is absolutely nothing wrong with modern Population Genetics (ie. The Autosomal DNA Ancestry Component Charts I posted) from the standpoint of Dialectical Materialist Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, in fact anyone who rejects Science is not a Real Communist (Marxist-Leninist-Maoist), and is instead either a White Evangelical Protestant Christian Zionist Nationalist Sexist Homophobic Racist Flat Earth Creationist Fascist Republican MAGAtard who wants to go back to the 19th century Dickensian Factory Towns, Women in the Kitchen, Sodomy laws, and Jim Crow, or a Postmodern Foucauldian Liberal Idealist Anarchist who wants everyone to live in a Hippie Commune, thus proving that the rejection of any Science (including Population Genetics) will prevent you from embracing the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest stage of Marxist Science, and begin traveling the Scientifically proven Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2575247
During the Global Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in the future Global USSR, all those who reject the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the highest stage of Marxism, including all Religious Clergy such as Priests/Ministers/Monks/Nuns/Imams/Rabbis (In the future Global USSR, all Religion will be Illegal and all Churches/Mosques/Synagogues/Temples/Pagodas will be Bulldozed/Burnt down) and all Fascists, Liberals, and Revisionists, will be arrested by the International Red Guards and forced to march through the streets wearing Dunce Caps and attend Struggle Sessions on their way to the Re-education camps where they will be Re-educated to embrace the Immortal Science of MaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

These are pretty much all I use nowadays.

>>2572136
The situation definitely isn't good for them, the regime is once again attacking them, they have conceded a lot and got nothing out of it.

So many words in this thread

>>2572113
Transitional Government forces opened fire on protesters
In response to the recent violence in Homs, shots were fired at people who took to the streets in the cities of Homs and Latakia.

In Latakia, the Alevi community held a protest at the Ziraa Junction in response to recent violence and attacks in Homs. However, a group of youths attacked the protesters with stones, who were then shot at, injuring some.

A similar situation occurred in Homs. A group attacked protesters with clubs and knives. During the demonstration, some were injured, and people were fired upon directly.

Following the shooting of demonstrators, military mobilization of government forces is taking place in all cities and districts under the control of the Transitional Government.
>>2572389
>So many words in this thread
READ THEM!

>>2572113
>>2572113
oh well, welcome to the best Syria

>>2574311
>No other economic form that emerges can replace the role of the party.
Tell me why. Explain it like you would to a child.

>>2574311
>most people treat the party as if it's separate to the proletarian movement, imposing its will from outside, when it emerges from the class' own needs.
it might emerge that way, but parties can become revisionist and/or self destructive, like the CPSU did. Did the class "need" the CPSU to dissolve the USSR?

Communism is a mode of production

The rest of your post is vauge in purpose and irrelevant to the starting topic.

As an angsty teenager I read a lot existensialist philosophy and got this urge do actually change things but it always amounted to poetry or philosophy, two practices that rarely have consequences or historical meaning. Idealist voluntarism describes it pretty good. Marxism on the other hand gave me the understanding that to actually impose my will is impossible and the best I can hope for was to understand the mores of the times and not have my will deviate from the mores, too much. And the way to actually impose any kind of will is to impose the inevitable "will" of the class, which is to say to pursue the class interest of the proletariat.

A kind of schizophrenia ocurrs when you try to cross voluntarist approaches to social revolution. The only way to actually pursue the solutions to the problems Marxism presents itself is to practice real life, dirty-Jewish politics. You have to push proletarian association wherever you are. For me this amounts forcing people to organize into whichever kind of structures while presenting my case, the communist case, as everyone's case. There's no granduer to it essentially and most of my escapades lead to dead ends. Most people think I'm a complete weirdo probably, because communism, organization, class and the proletarian movement is the only thing I talk about in general (when I'm not talking about work).

>>2531318

Do you have any non-CIA bitch source to site for that ?

>>2531366
Pakistan won

>>2530049
There was a de-Hua Guofeng-ization. Mao's successor had his own cult of personality for 2 years and it got completely dismantled to the point that his death in 2008 was barely noticed.

>>2531366
Radio Free Europe and Radio Free Asia are literal CIA propaganda outlets. Consider shooting yourself.

bump

>>2571858
Almans be Almaning

>>2363945
>>2365462
>hey germanons, im gonna be in berlin next week, roughly the 6th to 15th. amerikkkan. where should i go? any commie spots or otherwise i should know about where i could meet good people? staying near alexanderplatz.
nothing good here theyre all proud zionist slave dogcunts that need to be killed like the dogs they are go to the parliament and kill some zioslave uyghurs there like all the pro palestine protersters here are migrants ill never trust a yakubian here
>>2389648
look at them dogcunts talking about fucking 3 year olds and then asking for money for their beautiful service fucking shameless money grabbing cunts may they be utterly annihilated

>>2574664
Nuklearschlag der Wahrheit

>>2574664
Westberliner Anekdoten.

>>2574582
this is why i keep posting the marx quote about crude communism while also acknowledging the existence of labor aristocracy. that is the correct position: >>2574396

>>2574583
>uh no lol. You're not getting that correct. It wasn't even really a flame war. It was a lot of things. Maybe don't try to bring it up again
Actually I did. It was half flame war, and half just unloading brain farts while pretending to be smart.

>>2574576
No we can’t rest on our laurels, if DSA is serious they’ll threaten to primary Zohran if he doesn’t shape up. That’s how the GOP became what it is, the tea party psychos of yesteryear are moderates compared to tpublicans and they’re getting punched from the right by gryopers.

>>2574573
>things never said
>the reply.
>>2574575
>>2574569
they are juicy even if you are a new hire, much better than the average market.

>>2574593
>if DSA is serious they’ll threaten to primary Zohran if he doesn’t shape up. That’s how the GOP became what it is
just one problem, m8, the reactionaries can afford to do that because they are hegemonic and showered with money by the Thiels and Kochs of the world, while the DSAcels are cucked into tailing the DNC

>>2574501
I was gonna say, saying shit like
> According to these people there exists a secret genocidal anti-white conspiracy to destroy the west

Is why people *actually* can't stand third worldists. Third Worldists constantly strawman criticisms of their position in bad-faith, where anyone who disagrees with them is assumed to be on the same page as a racist or pro-imperialist and therefore must be killed by JDPON, and then pull a motte-and-bailey fallacy where they claim they're not actually saying that.

And here's the thing - christian reactionaries in the imperial core act the *exact same way,* which is why westerners call third-worldists closeted libs/reactionaries.

>>2574505
> christian reactionaries in the imperial core act the *exact same way,* which is why westerners call third-worldists closeted libs/reactionaries.
I mean both groups unironically believe in picrel and all the racial essentialism that comes with it, the only difference is who they think the intrinsically noble civilization is

>>2557921
OP, the reason you people get criticized isn't for opposing imperialist governments, it's for picking fights with comrades in the core constantly while strawmanning their criticisms of your position.

No, leftists in the core who think you're wrong aren't "Being mad that you want to take their treats away," they think your analyses regarding the labor aristocracy and the reasons revolution hasn't happened yet are wrong, because they fly in the face of their own experiences.

>>2574512
This needs to be stickied. The perfect rebuttal

>>2574513
third-worldists treat their theory the way bourgeois economists treat orthodox economics - if the facts don't fit their theory, then it's assumed that reality is in error, not the theory!