/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>Will it be in our lifetime?
Depends on what you mean by collapse. The hegemonic position of the U.S. will, I believe anyway, absolutely end within our life time. But overall I would expect a protracted, asymmetrical decline over outright “collapse”.

>>2561504
It's never gonna go away entirely. Russia is still around, it has some relevance, might even reconstruct the USSR at some point. It's just too awesome for geographical reasons. Pakistan or Nigeria will never have the resources or water security that America has no matter how many hundreds of millions they have in population.
With that said, things are already so much worse for America than most people realize because they are not insane news addicts. They do not have a hegemonic world position at in 2025 already. They do not have the best technology. They do not have military production. The revered media dominance is also slipping away. They do still have many guano rats who will make lives worse for millions of people, but there are next to none being made anymore. They will run out for natural reasons and that will be the end of it. America will be a country rather than the bourgeois country.

>>2560930
>the contradictions need to continue to sharpen
Amerikkkans already have nationwide riots after riots and crises after crises and pogram after pogram so waiting is incorrect.
>while simultaneously building up the subjective forces and broader class consciousness so that when the moment inevitably comes when reformism fails, we can point to the system that makes it impossible for people to live dignified lives and thwarts even moderate attempts to do so.
reform always fails so there is no need to wait.
>communists need to be prepared to seize the momentum when the time comes;
They can just build army and do that now though
>moderates like Zohran should be seen as nothing more than pawns to achieve our ultimate goal of seizing the bourgeois state by force.
The pawn uses you.

Daily reminder that Mamdani's regime will be crushed if we don't cyberbully Yanks into supplying the succdem regime with institutional worker power. Don't let them forget that voting is only step 0.
For example, iirc the tax reforms need approval from state Dems. They have power to pull Mamdani rightward similarly to Standers and AOC. And the boog have capital they can withdraw.

1. I am not American
2. While western left parties can learn from his campaign, he is a democrat and will throw you under the bus in favor of the landlords

>>2561146
Saying euroid socdems can learn from american socdems is tragic demonstration of the bankrupcy of democrat thinking. The only lesson to be learned is that all socdems must be eliminated.

>>2548966
>the ratio between patriots and liberals was 50/50, probably now is around 60/40 or slightly worse
"patriots" 40, "liberals" 60 [since 2022]
reactionaries 100. all of them

>>2536640
this has made me wonder why there isnt a soy/chudjak board on this site yet

>>2536374
I'm gonna be real with you OP as it's because a lot of people who are on the far left now used to be on the right or damn near went in that direction when they were younger and thus you see a lot of people do the same shit but with a red flag thrown over it. I know because I ended up on this board due to being involved in Gamer Gate while also paradoxically finding out about Anarchist Catalonia and thus when the mask dropped with Gamer Gate and I ended up realizing that I was shoulder to shoulder with literal Nazis I really got into using this board and reading theory.

That said though due to being a minor when I first got into here I had a lot of the same thought patterns and did a lot of the same bullshit that I did in my anti-SJW phase just with a leftist coat of paint. Then when I learned a bit more about anti-racism and feminism I dropped a lot of that behavior but I'm gonna be honest it's strange in retrospect because I managed to still do a lot of the same shit and didn't realize it. Added to that in the time period I moved away from this board and started to move towards actual groups which ended up being very funny in retrospect because the /leftypol/ board genuinely did make a huge impact on Internet leftism but due to the purity culture of many socialist spaces it's basically an open secret that is very rarely acknowledged until one gets in private one on one conversations with people who can be very trusted.

Anyways, back to my point the part that made me realize that a lot of us operate on a lot of the same thought patterns with different political ideologies painted over them is the subject of guns. While I'm not anti-gun it was when I made friends with people in Portland that made me realize that left-wing gun culture is basically the same militia LARP that right-wing idiots do but with a red and/or black and/or trans flags thrown over them. Again, I'm not anti gun but having an AR-15 is not going to make you and your friends be able to overthrow the US Government despite not doing jack shit to actually get the masses on board/doing things that actively alienate them such as purity testing because you're over compensating for the time you were a CHUD.

Anyways while I noticed this I still held out hope for my dumb ass "friends" until I began to notice that a lot of people began to split for purity reasPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2561177
PS I know this is hypocritical given that I am posting on this board but if y'all really want to build a movement I recommend creating a movement that focuses less on using the Internet and organizing in real life. While the Internet is useful and is not going to go away this definitely adds to a lot of leftism especially in the states being LARP in spite of living conditions going down. Especially in the case of the Internet it is fueling the increasing isolation of the average person and thus if you can get people to focus on their immediate community around them then you're much more likely to succeed/give people hope that your ideas work. So much of misery is from being addicted/overstimulated from Internet that it is important give people a practical alternative/have people be actually connected to the community around them.

>>2536374
Left takes itself too seriously while rightoids own the fact that they are retarded but funny.

>>2551288
>Absolute majority of armenoids, like every judeochristian is a rabid zionist who jerk off too israhellas they see them as a neocrusader
Azerbaijan has an established relationship with Israel as well.
>armenoids are literally the only nation in the region not recognizing Palestine
This is just made up.
>in the 90s armenoids invaded azeri territory and did to them exactly what zionists are doing to palestinians.
Even if this was true it would not be an excuse for what they have done to Armenian citizens and Armenian cultural sites. Azerbaijan kills Armenian civilians with weapons provided by Israel and NATO help and no amount of twisting the truth can change that.

>>2551292
This is 1:1 an Israeli talking point.

>>2551696
No, armenoid irredentism is IDENTICAL to zionism tho
>>2553540
It's literally what these western leftists think. It """israelis""" start branding themselves as communists tomorrow they'd totally cheer on charring and starving palestinian babies

>>2553566
>It """israelis""" start branding themselves as communists tomorrow they'd totally cheer on charring and starving palestinian babies
You are closer to this than anyone else. Azerbaijan is killing babies, not Armenia.

>>2553566
>No, armenoid irredentism is IDENTICAL to zionism tho
What Armenian irredentism? For actual irredentist imperial expansionism see >>2550374

>>2555364
But they lost to treatlerism.

>America revolution
Same elites, same economic system, almost the save government.
It was more of a war of independence than a revolution.

>>2553950
>There isn't much of a question of "what is to be done" or executing loyalists en masse or what have you because the loyalists could just fuck off to Canada and the Patriots who could risk turning on the revolution could be bribed with further expansion.

This is true but honestly when it comes to the American revolution people do downplay the violence between Patriots and Loyalists more than they think due to a lot of American Historians wanting to make it out like the US was the best kind of compromise while the French Revolution "went too far" even though there were a lot of lynchings and land seizures of Loyalists. In fact, the word "lynch" comes from the judge Charles Lynch who went out and did extrajudicial violence against the Loyalists at the time.

While the American Revolution wasn't that revolutionary it was much more violent and would have been much more like being in a Civil War at the time then modern people realize due to how it's been written about by historians. In fact, there's a good argument it has a lot more in common with the English Civil War then many people realize.

>>2561210
*true to an extent

>>2554983
So why does the left never talk about "socialized relations of production" being dominant and held back by a reactionary capitalist class?

If those relations don't exist then communism isn't possible and the question of revolution/civil war is irrelevant.

>>2559205
>>2559205
>What is Euroland's language? A mix?
Englisch

>>2538705
>Anti-NATO and anti-EU position is eapecially toxic. It appeals only to nationalists, who arent going to vote socialists anyway.
Even if this is true, the EU and NATO are imperialist institutions of American Imperial Hegemony. With Western Europe as a logistical base of operations, the American Empire is able to project power and neocolonial rule deeper into Eurasia and Africa.

>>2559205
We speak parasitic here

>>2538761

>Russia's defeat of Nazi Ukraine will not only be helpful for Ukrainian Communists and anti-fascists but will be a crippling blow to the trans-Atlantic system, NATO, the EU, and the "rules-based genocide" order.

Yea dude I'm sure that the fascist oligarchy with imperialist amibitions is gonna be excited to replace being surrounded by NATO bases with being surrounded by socialist, anti-fascist movements

>>2561222
Damn not even controlled opposition communists are left alone.

>>2561140
he said that germany needs hitler back

>>2560967
Communism in one state

I remember watching some video and explanation for why rural people defecate in the open is ironically cultural believes about cleanness, nobody wants to dig and maintain latrines because it is considered dirty. As for city folk, I imagine if you live in a place with no plumbing you dont have other option.

>why are poor places literally shitholes
Insightful analysis

>>2560971
It seems to be the areas with lower percentages of Hindus have lower percentages of open defecation. The north has more Muslims, in the far east the people tend to be Christian or follow local beliefs and tend to look more like a Chinese person or a Thai, places like Kerala are probably more secular minded due to the influence of the communist parties. I also notice Goa has a very low percentage as well and a good chunk of its population is Catholic. Most likely less Hindus less open defecation.

>>2560318
Well one argument against eugenics is it's impossible to know the future and what genes will be best in the ever changing environment, but socialists are all about planning so oh well. I guess there could be concerns about genetic stagnation if everyone chases the same ideals and then some random disease wipes us out like a monocrop.

"superior genes" aren't a thing

A healthy gene pool is a diverse gene pool. If you are culling "bad" genes you are running the risk of depleting reproductive viability.

>>2560318
The way I see it, it's putting the cart before the horse.

As much as I am a layman, I will not budge that the problems of capitalism can not be fixed with superior genes. For the same reasons I don't think that GMOs or "superfoods" are the key to ending hunger. And I don't think it reasonable to wait for the human species to transcend the need of nutrition through some world wide transhumanist project for the problem to be solved.

Another retard with inferior genes that doesn't understand how genes work

Epigenetics retard

>>2553594
>Runways and rocks

While work was being carried out on Abd al-Kuri, it was also proceeding apace at Samhah, the smallest of Socotra’s three inhabited islands, located deep in the Arabian Sea.

Satellite imagery shows that the UAE began constructing an airstrip on the island in 2024, with the runway completed in April 2025, alongside the paving of roads and establishment of essential support facilities.

Samhah’s rocky, mountainous terrain does not allow for the easy construction of longer runways, so it is most likely used for rapid, periodic surveillance operations rather than heavy transport. It can receive and operate the Hermes 900 and is able to support electronic reconnaissance and maritime surveillance operations.

The island’s location is ideal for monitoring the maritime passage between the Gulf of Aden and Arabian Sea, through which about 12 percent of worldwide trade passes.

Between 25 March and 4 April 2025, satellite imagery revealed the appearance of a temporary sandbar on the western side of Samhah, which was not visible in previous images seen by MEE. This small sandbar appears to have been formed for temporary marine drainage, a common pattern in isolated military construction projects.

While this was taking place, the Young Star, a Comoros-flagged landing craft with IMO number 1095973, which was most likely being used to unload equipment used to prepare the runway, could be seen anchored off the island’s west coast.

Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2543719
His account:
https://www.tiktok.com/@z1971rr

Related video. UAE Arabs call for Sudan to be nuked like Hiroshima, sing the name of a guy who's bragged about killing 2k people and tell the Sudanese people they're not worth a hair on MBZ's head.

From newsanon's thread:

Mohammed bin Salman expected to lobby Trump over UAE role in Sudan, sources say

Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman is expected to lobby US President Donald Trump over the UAE’s support for the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF) in Sudan when the two leaders meet at the White House next week, multiple Arab and western officials have told Middle East Eye.

The move, which follows a phone call last week between Mohammed bin Salman and Sudanese Armed Forces (SAF) commander Abdul Fattah al-Burhan, would mark a rare direct engagement between the Saudi ruler and Trump on Sudan.

The UAE has backed the RSF throughout the war using supply lines that run through southeastern Libya, Chad and, increasingly, the port of Bosaso, on Somalia's Puntland coast. Abu Dhabi continues to deny the allegations.

Multiple sources monitoring the war told MEE that their internal traffic showed an information war was already under way between UAE and Saudi-backed social media accounts. Accounts linked to the UAE are looking to discredit journalists and organisations that report on RSF atrocities, while Saudi-linked accounts are boosting the same content.

A Sudanese source briefed on the call between Mohammed bin Salman and Burhan said that the general told the crown prince there was no way the war in Sudan would end without US pressure on the UAE. The source told MEE that Mohammed bin Salman promised Burhan he would raise the issue with Trump.

An Arab diplomat in the region told MEE that Abu Dhabi is anticipating Mohammed bin Salman's visit to Washington to result in such pressure.
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Emirati journalist films with female RSF commander calling for mass rape of Sudanese women

If arabs and hitler had a kid it would look like RSF.

>>2560481
the AIslop image really undermines the story, no?

>>2560721
All that workout just to get gassed out in boxing/ wrestling lmao

>>2560476
US South American wars. Nobody even knows why they happen. There is some process that looks like consensus building, and something that seems like it's manufacturing a pretext, but there's really nothing.

>>2560904
Interesting. 30/100 young adults want to leave. That's a higher number than I expected.

>>2560538
I hate that guy, but you are being hysterical surely hitler was marginally less bad by comparison