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 No.1816541[Reply]

I think reading up about these guys should be mandatory because they are a perfect illustration of what not to do. They were without a doubt perhaps the most incompetent and embarrassing armed group that has ever existed. Everyone, White Working class union members, Black Panthers and feminists all made fun of them and thought they were embarrassing retards
All their members hailed from very privileged backgrounds and were university students, Not surprisingly, when they were apprehended, only a handful faced any consequences or retribution from the government. Their grand "revolution" against the United States turned out to be a decade-long spree of meaningless bombings and vandalism. Law enforcement dubbed them the "toilet bombers" due to their penchant for targeting government building bathrooms. The pinnacle of their incompetence was when they accidentally blew up one of their own safe houses. Some of their members managed to evade capture for years(cause no one was actually looking for them), only to be astounded by the lenient punishment they received upon surrendering. cause law enforcement simply didn't deem them worth prosecuting. the majority of them are still alive and continue to enjoy their wealth to this day and are college professors and social activists.
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 No.1864922

>>1856214
what the fuck are you referring to anon?

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 No.1866250

>>1816541
Weather Underground literally sounds like some avant-garde boomer-era pretentious rock band. You would expect a group with that name to put out some album with a single forty-five minutes track played awfully but somewhat considered as new classical music and an unparalleled feat of artistic genius by whole generations of hip "music critics".

>>1866218
>Boomer "veteran" in constant need to shove down everyone's throat he somewhat participated in the aggression and attempted genocide of the Vietnamese
>Historical falsification depicting Burgers and not the Red Army as vanquishers of Hitler
Frankly, someone need to organise some serious effort to balkanise and wreck that bloody place as soon as possible without any mercy at all. Let them descend into a Yugoslavia multiplied by ten thousand and the only few good ones there, please leave as soon as you can.

 No.1866267

>>1866250
>Weather Underground literally sounds like some avant-garde boomer-era pretentious rock band.
It was, they took their name from a Bob Dylan lyric. They changed it from Weatherman though to be gender neutral.

<Keep a clean nose

<Watch the plain clothes
<You don’t need a weatherman
<To know which way the wind blows

 No.1866492

>>1866250
WW2 soldiers were greatest-generation, most wee in their 40's and 50's during Vietnam



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 No.1863550[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

>Rishi Sunak has taken an astonishing gamble in going for a general election at a time when there is still a little room to delay and the governing party is in such poor shape with public opinion.

>The Guardian’s poll of polls shows Labour 21.7 points ahead of the Conservatives, with 44.7% of the vote to 22.9%. Poll leads of more than 20 points are usually only seen at exceptionally bad moments in the midterm.


>Labour’s poll lead now is a little narrower than it was at the equivalent stage of the contest in 1997. Support for both the main parties is down on 1997, with Reform UK (11.5%) and the Green party (6.5%) picking up. The swing since the December 2019 election is a mammoth 16.8 percentage points; the previous postwar record was the 1997 swing of 10 points.
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 No.1866216

>>1866155
I thought pride was in june

 No.1866243

>>1866204
It would be much harder to do the same thing but from the far right

 No.1866383

>>1866129
You're naive if you think the Cass report was anything but working back to a political conclusion. (You can tell this because it was embraced: reports that have awkward conclusions, like Chilcot, go on the shelf for historians.) Do not believe the establishment is neutral on an issue simply because you agree with the conclusions they reach.
You've gotta think institutionally rather than programmatically: yeah, as a Labour program that might go down well with the public, and if Labour won't offer it another party could - but this isn't really a democracy and not all parties are created equal. In the 1980s the SDP came along with a degree of institutional support (to undermine labour), a realistic program, high profile MPs, etc, etc… and they were a dismal failure, a footnote in Liberal party history. A new left party with a similar program to yours would have no institutional support and at best 1 high profile MP, who'd have disproportionate power on that basis. As a niche party you don't win on the basis of a sensible national program, you have to hit hard on very specific local or topical issues - it's why the greens and the lib dems are full of NIMBYs, it's why Galloway won the byelection… Nobody would've taken Galloway seriously if he'd said he wasn't running for Gaza, he was running for a senate elected by PR.
The class dynamics of Australia are different to those of the UK. Australia is a big fat coal mine, Britain is a big fat feudal tax haven. A coal mine benefits from representing some of the class interests of its workers (especially when there are environmentalists around…), an aristocratic tax haven does not. Institutions, not programs.

Alternatively if you're really set on your electoral-adjacent hobby or alternative electoral-left programs of the sensible reformist type, go read about Bryan Gould, the guy from New Zealand who lost the 1994 Labour leadership election by a huge margin because people mistook him for a Blairite when he was actually a Keynesian National-developmentalist well to the left of John Smith.

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>>1866383
1992, not 1994.
You can also watch "Labour: The Wilderness Years" on youtube where he has a habit of popping up and being correct.

(How bleak is it that on the eve of Blair's assent, the BBC aired this fairly critical - if, in the 1980s part at least, highly orthodox - look at Labour's recent history, while on the eve of Starmer's we got the hagiography that was "Blair & Brown: The New Labour Revolution"? Can you imagine if in 1997 they'd still been looking back wistfully on Wilson '74?)

 No.1866433

Can things only get better?



 No.416549[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Letzter Pfaden wurde dank der /Pol/acken vom Brett gepusht. Deshalb ein neues Deutschland General.
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 No.1866369

https://blog.fefe.de/?ts=98ace01b
Fefe fordert Ermordung von Pro-Pali-Demonstranten durch die israelische Armee:
<Ich persönlich wäre dafür, Pro-Pali-Demonstranten mit einem Päckchen Hilfsgüter per Boot in den Gazastreifen zu befördern.
Und Kinder haften für ihre Eltern (Todesstrafe):
<Ja aber Fefe, im Gazastreifen sind lauter unschuldige Kinder, die noch gar nicht wählen dürfen! Den Einwand könnt ihr von mir aus gerne mit deren Eltern klären
Warum Fefe alles weiß über den Konflikt:
<Ich war ja vor einer Weile in Israel, u.a. in Tel Aviv, und habe mich da mit einem Taxifahrer unterhalten. Der zeigte so aus dem Fenster und meinte: Hier war nichts, als Israel gegründet wurde.
Da war nix in der Gegend. Die drittälteste Kirche der Welt wurde gerade von Israel weggebombt aber vorher hat da natürlich niemand gelebt!

 No.1866386

>>1866369
Der fette Bürgi-ITler, welcher kräftig am deutschen Militärkomplex mitverdient zeigt einmal wieder seine hässliche Fratze.

 No.1866412

>>1866369
Bis zu diesem Post war er eigentlich immer recht basiert für einen Liberalen. Aber was für einen bösartigen Scheißdreck er da absondert, unglaublich. Hätte ich gerade von fefe nie erwartet. Entweder die haben dem was in Tel-Aviv in die Torte getan oder es reicht schon ein Aufenthalt in diesem Apartheidscheißeloch um zu einem absoluten Huso zu mutieren.

 No.1866419

>>1866386
>wieder
? Ich lese Fefe seit über 10 Jahren und ich wusste auch, dass er mehrmals in Israel war, bin aber trotzdem überrascht, dass der so tief in dieser Hasbara-Filterblase drin ist. Hätte nie gedacht, dass der sowas abdrückt. Der Text hat auch so eine schwache Form, dass man selbst als historisch völlig uninteressierter Nerd einfach mit Autismus-Power die kaputte Logik durchblicken muss. Es ist trivial, so Aussagen zu drehen von wegen die israelischen Eltern seien halt Schuld am Tod ihrer eigenen Kinder. Wenn einem von solchen Worten in dieser Variante schlecht wird, warum dann die Variante im Text akzeptabel finden? Also ob sich jemand vor Geburt seine Eltern aussuchen würde.

 No.1866424

>>1866361
>was a misfortune for the German psyche
Kindly fuck off with your retarded racist Tätervolk psycho shit. Makes me puke.



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 No.1541067[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread for the discussion of Anarchism

Foundational texts [ancom]:
>Alexander Berkman, ABCs of Anarchist-Communism
https://libcom.org/library/abc-anarchism-alexander-berkman
>Peter Kropotkin, Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-mutual-aid-a-factor-of-evolution
>Errico Malatesta, Anarchism and Organization
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/errico-malatesta-anarchism-and-organization
>More
https://libcom.org/library/anarchism-reading-guide

News [English]:
>https://freedomnews.org.uk/
>https://anarchistnews.org/
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 No.1866223

>>1866212
>>1866212
If you're too useless to feed a neighborhood, then
1. what kind of idiot would trust you to run a country?
2. Maybe you should be cut up for sausages.
Response?

 No.1866236

>>1864012
because we know that feeding 30 homeless people won't stop homelessness from existing
only a socialist government can end it, you can keep feeling good about yourself doing this shit but under capitalism you will never get rid of the underlying problem

 No.1866239

>>1866236
>only
Submissive religionoids actually believe this

 No.1866284

>>1866223
the entire point is to ensure there aren't fucking homeless etc in the first place. if you want to do charity work then join a charity
western leftists seem to think socialism is some kind of pity party

 No.1866287

>>1866284
>what is dual power
Gaming culture makes you retarded. The vanguard party is meant to form and lead the revolution, not sit like a goddamn trophy on a shelf.



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To clarify I am pro-Palestine and have held this stance for quite some time now. I do believe that recent wave of palestine supporters have good intentions(and done a lot of genuine good) but I find certain aspects of their activism fascinating, cause they come directly from american twitter activism and its intersecting to see that deal with a real-life issue cause over the past decade this activism has campaigned and marched for causes like american bipoc struggles and queer activism
And while I believe that the majority mean well(and actually haven't done any harm) they are employing tactics and rhetoric that don't make sense outside twitter activism, For instance I came across popular posts stating, "You probably didn't know that x is actually was Invented by Palestinians" or discussing how Palestine is connected to the experiences of black or queer people
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 No.1864004

>>1864002
If cringe is your only point then leave

 No.1864005

>>1864004
I was being sarcastic damn

 No.1864056

>>1863961
what is your point other than shitting up the place with r/stupidpol tier ragebait

>>>/v/

 No.1864094

>>1862440
Why you gotta hate on the cute rat comic?

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 No.1865564[Reply]

If you look up the most "racist films/comedies" you'll find that most of the creators were politically liberals who were pushing comedy forward. Western conservatives as a group, while having their own issues and genuinely bad humor, more often then not didn't want to offend. I think there was a comedian who compared feminists to 'church ladies we used to make fun of,' and while their reasons for being were different different, I do think they were being needlessly offensive and ignorant then and now. I don't see the point of just spouting offensive racial stereotypes and generalizations, most of the people who pushed comedy like this such as the "Man show" and Tosh.0 are now the same supporters of "woke" rhetoric that many people seem to hate, and I don't see that as a contradiction at all, it's the same type of humor but now with focus on more what are deemed "oppressor groups"
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 No.1866044

>>1866027
>>1866031
Bro it was 2001, Jesus.

 No.1866120

>>1866044
That's really not the issue with "radio podcast", but don't worry, it's extremely irrelevant and unimportant but I found it funny.

 No.1866123

>>1866020
Hey I remember that episode. That guy who called in on the landline fbi.gov was a psycho as well. Wild episode.

 No.1866124

>>1866123
goddamn it, cucked by the wordfilter

 No.1866202

>>1865564
>Western conservatives as a group, while having their own issues and genuinely bad humor, more often then not didn't want to offend.
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



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 No.1860171

>>1856103
>its only working-class coded for whiteoids
Hardly. If I saw an Asian with a mullet I wouldn't think 'rich parents'.

 No.1861215

Why is Tasmania aging to death?

 No.1861259

>>1860012
Well Australia is majority white so what you say is not incorrect. But as you go up income levels the proportion of whites goes up not down. More non-whites at the bottom than the top.

 No.1863467

THIS SATURDAY
Almost every state has a protest on the ports at noon.

https://www.unionistsforpalestine.com.au/25-may-rallies-ports

 No.1866191

HOLY SHIT WHAT A GHOUL. it's like a fully grown ben shapiro.



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 No.1866183[Reply]

does anyone has that green text screenshoot about giga chad playing victoria 3 just to oppress the bourgeoisie


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 No.1865913[Reply]

>With the politic design of preventing intestine broils by employment abroad, and in the hope that when rich as well as poor, plebeians and patricians, should be mingled again in the same army and in the same camp, and engage in one common service for the public, it would mutually dispose them to reconciliation and friendship. - Plutarch

What is /leftypol/'s position on "national service"? The general idea is that young people serve for a few years after completing secondary education, will either serve in a nations military OR "complete other works of service" such as working on civilian projects such as teaching in low-income areas, helping care for the elderly, or maintaining infrastructure, among other ideas. One could imagine a civilian service which gave young people training in the trades and had them work on construction projects or other such things of national importance.

Would there be national service in socialism or communism? Would such a concept even be relevant?

 No.1865923

>>1865913
>Pic
Starcraft reference

 No.1865977

>>1865913
>What is /leftypol/'s position on "national service"?
It's one of those things that should be supported under socialism but opposed under capitalism. Obviously, under socialism, people should participate in the construction and defense of socialism but under capitalism, "national service" means (For most people) you get sent to the news addict country of the week to valiantly give your life so a Redditor can get their Funko Pops sooner or the gas prices can drop a few cents.

 No.1865981

>>1865913
As someone who is an actual conscript, it is great way to keep people disillusioned with the state and the military. People would be less nationalistic.

The downside is you are wasting the best years of your citizens’ life, economically and socially. Also make it gender balanced else you would fuel a gender war in your country like South Korea.

 No.1866182

Dude, why are you trying to hold on to pre-capitalist social relations and the apprenticeship sytem? Stop trying to create institutions of subordination, retard.



 No.1584143[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This thread is dedicated to our accomplishment of having broken the upper limit of sea surface temperature and the lower limit of antarctic sea ice amount charts this summer, hence ushering our species firmly into the capitalocene. Good job guys! Welcome to the future.

Here's an article about that:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/aug/28/crazy-off-the-charts-records-has-humanity-finally-broken-the-climate

As for the news, there is a drought blocking shipping at the Panama canal, bad wildfires in North America and Greece, persistent heatwaves in eastern Europe and northern Africa, and floods in central and eastern China.

Here's the latest report from the IPCC
<AR6 Synthesis Report Climate Change 2023
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/syr/

The website of NASA about climate is great for getting data and visualizing climate change
https://climate.nasa.gov/

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 No.1865276

>>1864127
What is there to say about it? Fossil fuel companies have a material interest to resist any change. Capitalism is irrational and destructive. EV's aren't a real solution but even that isn't allowed under capitalism.

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We're not passing the Great Filter are we

 No.1865880

>>1865862
Humanity is going to survive. We're too resourceful for this to kill all of us. We might miss our shot at using fossil fuels as a booster rocket to hit "Type I" on the Kardeshev scale though.

 No.1866166

>>1862280
because you need to not only keep up with the rate of energy consumption growth, but also the rate at which old plants get decommissioned in order to make a difference.

 No.1866168

>>1865862
The rich will live, don't worry.



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