/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2833169
>restaurants and enjoy themselves gave a certain sickness to my stomach.

It wasn't like I was walking around pissed off all the time or hating happiness. I'm just not great at writing this stuff I talk better than I type.

What changed was I stopped feeling like I was part of that whole "happy consumer" world. Like I didn't exist in that system anymore and i didnt realize i was even that deep in it before, until i was jolted outside of it. My joy didn't come from buying shit or having things. It came from just… surviving. From waking up after a cold night and seeing the sun rise, seeing a new city, or meeting a genuine person, or seeing the stars, trees, moon or even sylines of corporate monstrosities, i would sit there and think about how its beautiful in a way, the power of workers, to build all that. That's it. That was enough. And being around other people who were doing the same thing put in the same struggle period felt real like a brotherhood i never felt in my life. i grew up with a phone so having no phone and digital cameras for almost a year was so life changing.

I'd go back into the city into those gentrified neighborhoods, and I'd see everyone spending money, laughing, buying overpriced coffee, looking happy. And it hit me they felt fake even the leftists id see. Not fake like they're lying, but fake like they're living in a bubble. An isolated little world. And that realization helped my theory grow more than any book ever did. It changed me as a person, not just as a thinker. I wasn't angry. I just saw things differently. And I couldn't unsee it. now im in a union doing carpentry and tbh i feel more embedded in the true working class than the direction i was in. juche is not a cult, it is a weapon that forges individuals and collectives into self reliant ballers

>>2833169
> Capitalism loves the "no pain, no gain" hustle. Grind culture. Work yourself to death for the boss. That's fine. But when communists bring that same energy and when we say you have to suffer a little to break your soft spots suddenly it's a "cult" and a "struggle period" is brainwashing.

i noticed that too. really good point.

>>2833169
>This stuff is real. It's a way to turn soft labor aristocrats into ballers. A way to turn crakkkers into race traitors against the protestant zionist settler state. I'm not joking at all this changed my life forever.

that's awesome. part of me wants that but it's too late for me. i'm already an old softie with an autistic kid. don't want to risk innocent people in my life over that kinda thing. but power to you. wish i was that brave when i was younger.

>>2833169
>But when communists bring that same energy and when we say you have to suffer a little to break your soft spots suddenly it's a "cult" and a "struggle period" is brainwashing.
If it's for anythting other than class struggle (nationalism, "opressed nations", religion,…) it IS a cult and brainwashing.

Whoah back in the day when I was an anarchopunk hobo kid I used to pick up the free stacks of MIM notes they left lying around town and sell them for 50 cents to get dope money. This was was mostly for the entertainment value of IRL trolling the yuppies tbh, didn't make much more than just flying an "Ugly, Broke, and sober." sign but it was fun. Sometimes we would roll up on people with a crew of 5 crusty gutterpunks and pitbulls and pretty much intimidate them into buying the paper, calling them KKKapitalist Swine if they didn't. Am I OG Juche Gang?

>>2828269
Germany

>>2832995
I don't think it's being propped up by the US, though the INC and people live Sonam Wangchuk (climate activist and pro-Ladakh statehood activist, general thorn in the side for BJP) are heavily involved in the moment. The movement itself is mostly targeted at the Education Ministry and the Chief Justice (who called the unemployed youth attacking the Ministry "cockroaches", hence the name). I don't see how this serves US interests. Or maybe I am being short sighted and should TRVST JDPON Don's PLQN or whatever.

>>2833033
IMO all current Indian politicians are Pro-US, because they don't like China. Trump's stupidity has made them somewhat backtrack on this, but they would 100% align with US than with China if need be.

>>2833277
>Germany
>Fucking Germany
Out of all the countries in Europe sans butthurt belt you pick the country with the least amount of revolutionary potential. France has an actual chance compared to Deutschland

No latam country, people here are retarded and beyond and are actually becoming rabid evangelicals and libertarians like crazy. I imagine latam going through a full blown fascist era before communist revolution becomes a possibility.

>>2833277
un-democratic parties are illegal there. Not even Japan is that insane

>>2832700
>interfeudalist conflicts
No war but peasant revolution.

Every national liberation war and every peasant and slave uprising

>>2832700
The Ottoman Empire was the sword and shield of the Ummah and all of Asia, Ottoman jihad saved Islamic ans Asian peoples from sharing the same fate as the ameridians

The day they showed weakness and failed to defend their Muslim brothers it was the day judeochristian whites began with a series of oppressions and atrocities such as the genocide of circassians, the bosnian genocide, the genocide of balkan muslims, zionism (arab genocide), the war on """"terror"""" by judeochristians responsible for the holocaust of 10 million Muslims and the displacement of 38 millions, etc and etc…

All this horror will end when the Ummah unites once again, destroy Israel, build nukes and point them at every single judeochristian european and american capital

>>2833371
In fact when the Spanish tried to invade and genocide innocent Algerians and Tunisians Hernan Cortez was captured by the Ottomans and the Padishah spoke of the depravity and atrocities he commited in Mexico and aaid he thought the Ottomans were another Mexico

>>2833371
Thank god they allied with the anti-colonial Hohenzollern and Habsburg then.

'A big pact': How the US plans to unite Libya through two ruling families

The US is crafting an agreement to unify oil-rich Libya around the country’s two most powerful families, as the US-Israeli war on Iran chokes global energy flows, current and former western officials, Arab sources briefed on the matter, and analysts told Middle East Eye.
The power-sharing agreement seeks to unify Libya through the Dbeibeh family in western Libya and the Haftar family in the east, while replacing each family’s leaders with a new generation.
While the effort has been underway for some time, it has gained new focus as the war on Iran sends oil prices higher, drawing US energy companies back to the country with Africa’s largest proven oil reserves.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/big-pact-how-us-plans-unite-libya-through-two-ruling-families

US lobby firm secures $2m contract to whitewash image of Libya’s Haftar

A US lobbying firm closely connected to the Trump administration has been handed a $2m contract to represent Khalifa Haftar, a Libyan warlord and de facto leader of large swaths of the country who faces multiple allegations of human rights abuses.
Lobbying disclosure agreements reported by the Washington Post revealed that Ballard Partners, which is staffed by former Trump administration officials, has agreed to advance the interests of Haftar, general commander of his self-styled Libyan Arab Armed Forces (LAAF), and his son Sadddam, chief of staff of the ground forces.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-lobby-firm-secures-2m-contract-whitewash-khalifa-haftars-image

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The June 1st Breakthrough: The day history was rewritten.
The June 1, 2004 Offensive was far more than a simple military operation in the history of the Kurdish Freedom Movement; it was a decisive turning point in philosophical, strategic, and ideological terms. Officially announced by the People's Defense Center Headquarters after a five-year unilateral ceasefire, this move was a comprehensive and planned response to the liquidation process created by the 1999 international conspiracy.

Between 1999 and 2004, global powers and the Turkish state implemented a large-scale liquidation strategy, effectively considering the movement "finished." Unilateral ceasefires, withdrawals, peace offers, and calls for dialogue were systematically rejected by Ankara.

During this period, policies of cultural genocide, village evacuations, intense military operations, and political repression continued uninterrupted. Internally, liberal and liquidationist tendencies weakened the organizational structure from within, while internationally, efforts to redefine the Kurdish people as a passive and submissive element accelerated.

June 1, 2004, was a courageous and decisive step taken precisely in the face of this challenging double siege. It was a historic move that pulled the movement out of disarray and reorganized it, preserving commitment to the Leadership paradigm and initiating a new period of struggle.

Following this breakthrough, and with the definitive abandonment of the classical state-power-centered understanding of revolution, Rêber Apo's democratic, ecological, and women's liberation paradigm officially took shape in 2005 and was systematically implemented across a wide geographical area.

The guerrilla approach, moving away from the goal of establishing a state or creating a new mechanism of oppression, has focused on strengthening society's capacity for self-governance, developing democratic autonomous structures, and protecting ecological balance. The aim is not to seize power, but to organize society in non-state spheres, build democratic confederalism from the bottom up, and offer a concrete, viable alternative to the problems created by both real socialism and capitalist modernity.

This paradigm shift, along with the process following the June 1st Uprising, has made it one of the unique revolutionary models of the 21st century.

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British soldier killed in training exercise accident in northern Iraq
>A British Army soldier was killed in a training exercise in northern Iraq on Sunday, the Ministry of Defence has announced.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62dygprnnvo

'training accident'

‘Commune organization constitutes a fundamental pillar of our system in Maxmur’
Speaking to ANF, Maxmur Democratic People’s Council Co-Chair Nüdem Yaman provided information about the activities carried out by the communes within Martyr Rustem Cudi Camp in southern Kurdistan (northern Iraq).

Drawing attention to Kurdish leader Abdullah Öcalan’s “Call for Peace and Democratic Society,” Nüdem Yaman stated that following the call, the people of Maxmur Camp have been acting on the basis of Öcalan’s ideas, philosophy, and the system he proposes.

<‘The commune is a fundamental pillar of our system’
Referring to the commune system envisioned by Öcalan, Nüdem Yaman stressed that commune organization constitutes a fundamental pillar of their system.

“Leader Öcalan always emphasized the following: ‘Why are communes important? Why do we focus on communes? What level should the communes reach?’ Through his books and manifestos, the Leader has presented this as a way of life to all peoples of the world, especially the Kurdish people,” she said.

Recalling that the commune system has a much deeper historical foundation than capitalism and hegemonic structures, Nüdem Yaman noted that over time the commune system had been distanced from its original essence and added: “Leader Öcalan wants the commune system to return to its true essence. The very meaning of a commune comes from gathering together; through it, society comes together and discusses its problems. History also provides examples of this. One of them is the Paris Commune. Although it did not survive for long, Leader Öcalan benefits from its experiences and adopts them as a guiding line.”

<‘The People’s Council began reorganizing the communes’
Stating that the Maxmur People’s Council launched a process aimed at the education, organization, and reconstruction of communes following Öcalan’s “Manifesto for a Democratic and Communal Society,” Nüdem Yaman explained: “A process of approximately three months was carried out. During this period, homes were visited in order to organize the communes, and discussions were held with the people and with individuals. Discussions were also conducted with experienced and elderly members of society. Eventually, neighborhood meetings were organized, local administrations were elected, commune centers (komîngeh) were establishePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

mass shooting in occupied palestinee
One killed, five injured in central Israel shooting as security forces kill two suspects

At least one person has been killed and five others injured in a shooting incident near Kochav Yair, in central Israel, according to Israeli police and emergency services.
The attack took place at multiple locations close to the separation wall and the boundary with the occupied West Bank.
Israeli authorities say two suspects were shot and killed as security forces responded to the incident.
Residents in nearby areas, including routes toward Qalqilya, were told to remain indoors as searches continued.

>>2832551
>Capitalism and wage-work has become universal
It has except it's not the only form of domination exerced nowadays. There are just multiple levels on which domination is applied. What do you think contradicts most a woman's self-emancipation in the third world (~35% of the global population), her patriarchal domination engrained in her society, or her local work as a cleaning lady for the local bourgeoisie ?

>Sorry, but what does this mean
Alienation = being stripped off something by external factors.
Alienation from potential = being stripped off your potential (i.e. being more satisfied with your work, having more control over your own life etc) by external constraints (like the wage-labor form but not exclusively).
Domination = a control of your freedom imposed on you by other people

>he came to the idea that what needs to be abolished is the bureaucratic-military state machine, not the state in its totality
What does "state" mean to you ? Do you think anarchists want to abolish any social organization ?

>would an anarchist (party) ever participate in a bourgeois parliament?
Again this is a redundant dichotomy because participation in the state through electoralism will never bring about an anarchist revolution (or a communist one too)
But yes, if somehow in an alternative universe the control of the political power could simply be won through elections then yes, anarchists would.
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>>2831936
reality is vague. subatomic particles can't even have their position and velocity known at the same time, and existentially they are excitations of a universal substrate. will you fight or perish? That is the question.

>>2831874
>anarchists when they succeed actually implement marxism
>marxists when they succeed become capitalists
ftfy

>How would anarchists respond to the criticism that, over 150 years of organized anarchist thought (from Bakunin and the International in 1866 onward, or even Stirner before that), their analysis of exploitation has remained largely vague and general?
Don't care, exploitation is something I feel and intuitively understand.
>How do anarchists explain the origins and development of exploitation? And how would they account for the evolution of society without relying on concepts like class struggle and the dictatorship of the proletariat as scientific tools?
The origins of exploitation lie in the development of agriculture/civilization, and the stratification of society that emerged through that. Since then, class conflict has been a definitive factor in the "progress of history", yes.
>Are anarchists generally committed to social ownership of the means of production, or do they tend to favor small-scale production and some forms of private ownership? How would they address the claim that anarchism is just bourgeois individualism turned on its head?
Social ownership is good as long as it empowers each individual to govern themselves and directly manage the affairs of their life/labour, if it fails at that then it can be swiftly discarded. Anarchism is different from "bourgeois individualism" in that an anarchist wants to be that absolute authority over their own life, whereas liberals tend to go on about 'rights', 'laws', 'equality', 'private property', etc. Essentially liberalism only permits freedoms within the confines of what it deems acceptable, as does Christianity, monarchy, feudalism, among others.
>How do anarchists propose to organize and educate workers for class struggle while refusing participation in bourgeois political institutions? How would they avoid offering what critics call one‑sided, disconnected fixes, especially when global coordination seems necessary and anarchism’s individualist tendencies may undermine it?
I don't really care about organizing the working class, it should be obvious by now that socialism will never happen in your lifetime.
If anything, the best way to "organize" would be to build pockets of life outside of hierarchical society, and to slowly expand these more and more. "Build the new world within the shell of the old", as it were.
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>>2832170
Sorry pal next time I want to make a thread give me an instruction manual not to disturb your sensitive, hemorroidic asshole. I formulated all of that in a question, not as a statement, and I even admitted the poor formulation of the issue. I'm fully aware of my ignorance, which is the reason I made this thread, and I felt like I had to make it because nobody was talking about this shit even though most workers are in the service sector today. I just wanted to learn from the answers.

>>2832145
>>2832199
What do you think? Since industrial workers are, at least compared to lot of service workers, relatively better off, should we wait for the contradictions to bring back an incentive for the revolution in the industrial sector or should we work with what we have and shift the focus onto service, precarious labour with new strategies, or both?

>>2831306
>>2832489
It's not obvious to me that this is a problem from a Marxist standpoint. Communism = more factory labor? Like the point is sort of to overcome the necessity of labor. The contradiction is between the development of the forces of production (production becomes less dependent on human labor) with the relations of production (capitalism still relies on labor as a source of value).

<But to the degree that large industry develops, the creation of real wealth comes to depend less on labour time and on the amount of labour employed than on the power of the agencies set in motion during labour time, whose ‘powerful effectiveness’ is itself in turn out of all proportion to the direct labour time spent on their production, but depends rather on the general state of science and on the progress of technology, or the application of this science to production. (The development of this science, especially natural science, and all others with the latter, is itself in turn related to the development of material production.) Agriculture, e.g., becomes merely the application of the science of material metabolism, its regulation for the greatest advantage of the entire body of society. Real wealth manifests itself, rather – and large industry reveals this – in the monstrous disproportion between the labour time applied, and its product, as well as in the qualitative imbalance between labour, reduced to a pure abstraction, and the power of the production process it superintends. Labour no longer appears so much to be included within the production process; rather, the human being comes to relate more as watchman and regulator to the production process itself. (What holds for machinery holds likewise for the combination of human activities and the development of human intercourse.)

<No longer does the worker insert a modified natural thing [Naturgegenstand] as middle link between the object [Objekt] and himself; rather, he inserts the process of nature, transformed into an industrial process, as a means between himself and inorganic nature, mastering it. He steps to the side of the production process instead of being its chief actor. In this transformation, it is neither thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

I think it's interesting that while manufacturing and industry has for a long time been thoroughly bourgeois, retail and commerce was still a petty bourgeois endeavour. Back when there were already massive conglomerates in say the steel and coal or the automobile industry employing thousands of workers in single firms, most retail was still small shops, with barely any salaried workers, rather than large modern supermarkets and department stores with giant warehouses and logistics operations. This lack of socialisation placed a large part of the tertiary sector outside of the capitalist mode of production until much later. It's not very surprising then that this sector had less of a proletarian character than industry. However, times have changed and the small shops have been or are being replaced by massive stores like Walmart. Even the petty bourgeoisie that continues to exist are partly beholden to these giant firms by way of things like franchise agreements.

The same could probably be said for the food industry, with massive chains like McDonald's and Starbucks displacing smaller equivalents. Especially the fast food industry has an incredibly thorough (Fordist?) division of labour that simply did not exist in the past.

Still though, this increased scale in the service sector, except for probably in logistics, will never reach that of industry with individual sites as big as cities boasting thousands of workers.

I know! Pump nationalism, talk about opressed nations and inequal exchange. Then, talk about building a welfare state. Oh, and work with religious fanatic reactioaries. That would work!

Good morning, fellow China-enjoyers!

It seems we start this thread with leftcom spam this time.

upscaled & enhanced his ass, u like it? do u feel the proletarian real estate bubble energy coursing through ur veins?

>>2832469
The way you deal with any leftcom is to ask them to deal with a positive alternative, they can’t, at least anarchists argue for different structural models, you can’t get shit out of a leftcom except the Marx quote about “the real movement”

What's good, nikkuhs?

another win for the prols, communism any time now

The country doesn't want too much attention. I bet they just want to be left alone.

>>2833273
https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Lao_People%27s_Democratic_Republic
https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Library:Revolution_in_Laos
(some people might not like prolewiki because it's run by ML's but oh well)

>>2833232
>I mean, most Christoids picture the Bible lore happening with pasty Europeans still
Tbf Christians tend to portray biblical figures and events according to wherever they themselves are from. Go to a Christian Church in Korea and you'll find Korean Jesus.

>>2833253
>Go to a Christian Church in Korea and you'll find Korean Jesus.
I've never seen Korean Jesus whats he look like?

>>2833243
Fred Hampbeautiful lady😍🥰

michael harringbeautiful lady😍🥰

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Dems help GOP kill Tlaib's Lebanon war powers measure
It's a blow to the anti-war left just one day after the House passed a similar measure constraining Trump's ability to wage war in Iran. Wednesday's Iran vote was the result of months of behind-the-scenes efforts by Democratic leadership to get the party's most staunchly pro-Israel lawmakers on board, along with a handful of Republicans. But Thursday's vote reveals that there are still deep divisions between progressive and centrist Democrats on Middle East policy despite their unity on Iran.
https://www.axios.com/2026/06/04/lebanon-war-powers-rashida-tlaib-democrats-vote
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Judge Blocks Trump Administration From Holding Billions in Food Aid Funds ‘Hostage to Its Political Agenda’
The attorneys general of the District of Columbia and 20 Democrat-led states sued the department and Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins in March, arguing that “USDA has now thrown unconstitutional and unlawful roadblocks between the programs created by Congress and the states that rely on them, threatening critical nutrition support, vital agricultural research, and the safety of our national food chain and communities.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-snap

Suit filed against controversial planned Stratos datacenter project in Utah
Filed by the Alliance for a Better Utah and five unnamed residents of the Box Elder county area where the center is being developed, the lawsuit comes as Shark Tank co-host O’Leary agreed to scale back the physical footprint for the project.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/06/stratos-datacenter-utah-suit

Federal inspector reports chokehold, pen stabbing at ICE facility
At the Winn Correctional Center in Louisiana, investigators found multiple use-of-force incidents that "did not fully comply" with standards, according to a report from the Homeland Security Office of the InspectPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Capital Wants Us Dead: Rage Against the Democide Machine - Jeff Shantz
For two years we have been confronted with the genocide of Palestinians by the Israeli state (and its imperialist supporters)—documented hourly in the most horrific detail. We see our disabled, unhoused, and sick neighbors being actively killed through murderous policies and state actions, police gunning people down in the streets, migrants murdered by border regimes. Yet, the movements in North America continue to be fixed repetitiously in a futile politics of moral appeal, condemnation, symbolic action, or shaming those who have no shame. This is a politics of submission unto death. It holds nothing of fight for survival that being confronted by an active murderous threat calls for—indeed demands. We see instances of capitalist democide all around us in the so-called liberal democracies. Street sweeps and decampments of unhoused people, the removal of social supports for disabled people and their replacement by assisted death programs, criminalization of drug users and the dismantling of harm reduction and safe consumption spaces and resources that keep people alive, the rounding up of migrants and their imprisonment in “detention centers” where people are disappeared into death, the enclosure of Indigenous territories by and for extractives industries (that also kill the land that sustains life). All of these are active programs of murder by capital and its states. The aims and intention are death. This is democide—the killing off of “domestic” populations by the states that occupy and control the territory on which the targeted populations live. This can take many forms, from active mass murder by government to withholding of necessities or neglect such that civilians are killed. It can be genocidal.
Deaths in these cases are not externalities or collateral damage or unfortunate byproducts, or unintended outcomes of these policies and practices. They are the intended and, it must be said, desired outcomes for states driven by a capitalist class that no longer has willingness to see any profit lost to maintain elements of the working class it deems unnecessary for production or consumption and/or which is physically getting in the way of circulation or production. Death is the point.
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