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Tomorrow a huge protest will be held in the capital of Serbia, Belgrade, protesting the government’s refusal to accept the demands made by the students, as well as protesting against general incompetence and corruption. From the student to the teacher, worker and pensioner, war veterans and children all around Serbia will gather together in this protest.
Is this really it? Some policemen announced that they won’t be going to work tomorrow and that they have no intention of beating up children. This might be the only chance that the opposition gets to forcefully remove the president from office.
The implications are obvious; a color revolution is in the works. Unlike the protests in Greece, the Serbian protests have no class character. The left is very weak, and the protest attendees range from neonazis to liberals and communists (most likely due to the fact the protests have been organized “apolitically”). The situation in Serbia is very volatile, and the validity of these protests need to be questioned more seriously, since no matter how much they deny it, this reeks of liberal infighting. Only time will tell what the consequences of these past few months will be, and whether this will be another October 5th or just a failed mass movement.
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There was a big (peaceful) protest on the anniversary of the canopy collapse and there was generally a bit of revival of various activities in the protest movement around it. On the day of the anniversary, Dijana Hrka who is the mother of one of the canopy collapse victims announced that she would hold a hunger strike in front of the parliament (which also means it's in front of the Cacilend encampment) and that has been the focus lately. As a response, SNS has organized "parties" in Cacilend which were pretty obviously attempts to harass her, especially playing loud music and especially a song by Baja Mali Knindza whose title is something like "The mother came to look for her son" when translated. Also, there has been a pretty much all the time a mass of people who have come to support/guard her.
There was a potentially dangerous situation tonight because she gave the Cacilend people an ultimatum to stop playing music tonight or else she would call on people to forcefully enter Cacilend (Cacilend is surrounded by a fence) which would have very likely resulted in violent conflict. That would be pretty much the closest thing to an open to call of violence from the anti-SNS side of the protests since the beginning. I think the only other thing which could be a interpreted as a call of violence was the "you have the green light" thing for the Vidovdan protest.
Also, I think that it's pretty problematic that a single person (who is obviously not in the best state of mind) suddenly holds so much sway with the protests.

So nothing really happened regarding the stuff from my previous posts. The hunger strikers have up after two weeks and there was no big Cacilend conformation.
The student movement is still alive but probably the most dead it's been the past year. There is only one faculty which restarted its blockade, the others are operating normally in the new year except that the start of the year was late.
The NIS situation is still unresolved, I am not sure what the SNS government is planning, maybe they're just waiting for Russians to agree to a deal where NIS is sold to a third country. They floated the idea of nationalizing NIS but they have not done that yet. The oil refinery in Pancevo is stopping production because of a lack of oil, which means they're already losing money. If there is no solution in the coming months then the government will have to spend a lot of money on importing finished oil products and subsidizing the cost, or they can not subsidize it and cause an oil crisis in Serbia.

>>2578044

Also don't forget to mention the students had a split with the zbor's due to the more liberal opposition infiltrating them according to them.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DRnTjuzACP5/?img_index=1

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I feel like you guys need to stop labelling everything as a color revolution

Even if its liberals its still class conflict in nature, and mass disconnect being organized on general strike scales is impressive

>>2579295
The zbors are very dead compared to their peak in early july during the dumpster barricade stuff.

>>2579297
There were 2 calls to general strike but there was no labor organizing behind them so they failed.

Two days ago there were some local elections for some rural areas (only a few tens of thousands of voters total) and SNS won but with much less votes compared to both the last local elections and the last parliamentary elections. Like usual, there were various kinds of election fraud spotted and there was even some fighting in Mionica in a tavern close to one of the poll stations (https://x.com/agrifblokira/status/1995150996067307853).



 

Axis of cuckoldry just sold our second largest oil field to US firms lmao

Keep critically support Islamists otherwise workers here might actually overthrow their dictatorship of the bourgeoisie and third worldist westcels won't have access to superprofits anymore
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>>2581327
The Iraqi government gets its every cent from the US federal bank, illiterate retard.

>>2581286
you cant invoke this rule after making such a shitty thread retard

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IraKKKi mad at AES smh

So what if half your oil is owned by the US the other half is still owned by progressive Chinese capital this is what anti imperialism looks like

>>2581387
>the other half is still owned by progressive Chinese capital
I doubt they own even 25%, wtf are you on about you retard

>>2581329
how can it be siphoning the money if it gives it back to islamist iraqis



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Starting this thread and hopefully it stays a general. There's no thread dedicated to the EVROPA and what happens here.

everal European countries are currently reevaluating their military conscription policies, with some, like Croatia, having recently decided to reinstate it. Regarding pension reforms, the debate is also active, with France serving as a prominent example where a recent reform is facing political opposition and proposed suspension.
>Croatia.
Parliament voted in October 2025 to bring back a 2-month compulsory service starting in 2026.
>Germany
The government is moving toward a "new military service" model starting with a mandatory digital questionnaire for young men from 2027, with the potential for mandatory conscription if needed.
>Denmark
Expanding to include women from July 2025. Service is selected via a lottery system from the pool of eligible 18-year-olds.
>Latvia
Reintroduced in 2023. All men between 18 and 27 must serve for 11 months.

Concurrently, pension reform is trying to be pushed in Belgium, France, Bosnia and Slovenia (that I know of). All want to raise the retirement age and lower pensions low term.

Serbia has a rebellion going on for almost a year.
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>>2581397
I cant wait for European nationalists to kill another 100 million people in completely unnecessary wars over pieces of land.

>>2561222
>>2561235
Don't forget to mention they're Trots lol

German government collapse is. imminent.

Belgian authorities just raided the EU Diplomatic Service and the College of Europe Graduate School. 3 arrested, among them former vice-president and former head of the EU diplomatic service and current director of the school.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/02/former-eu-top-diplomat-federica-mogherini-arrest-fraud-investigation

>>2581504
Kallas next please.



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>>2581112
I don't disagree with your point but in german Aufheben means more like to formally dissolve or abolish, like you could use it so say something like "we're dissolving the company". Entomologically it can be describes as something like to lift up/pick up, or elevate. To dispel (a curse) also works, but that has a decisively negative direction whereas aufheben is more neutral

>>2581224
Yeah, I just wanted to highlight the kind of poetic connotations of "aufheben" inherited from hegel and german gothic literature, because I think it emphasizes the notion that the things we want to "abolish" are like "spells" in that they are social relations, ghostly things that "take hold of us", rather than "things" in the analytical/positivist sense, so you don't "cancel" them directly, you "dispel" them by altering the things that give rise to them.

>>2581207
The answer is that dogmatism and schematic thinking is revisionism.
Adapting to the concrete historical and material conditions at hand is the soul of marxism, applying marxism as an abstract schema for everywhere for all time IS revisionism.

>>2581247
That's a good way to look at it, I think I agree. In a related sense I think it's also interesting that aufheben has a very formal implication, it's almost like declaring the official dissolution of something that's already no longer there, just the form remains, which will now be "abolished" because the reason for that form to exist is no longer there as a base, but it's not the aufhebung itself that ends the thing, it's more of a formal acknowledgement of the facts and making it officially over.

13 year old nostalgic kino



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Its frustrating how the military goons stopped cybersoc not once but twice.
First by saying it was borgoise science when if was formulated and then ending the soviet internet later.



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The biggest rebutal I see in the eyes of the average person to "socialism" and "communism" is that it's utopic, that it relies on bad assumptions, that it doesn't work in reality etc. In essence, that we're advocating for something that can't be and that we have no alternative to capitalism.
And, to that effect, what are we even advocating for ? It appears to me that we have a bunch of different movements with many different goals that don't actually ressemble one another. Yet, despite this, very few of these movements have actual "models", it just seems like they want to reform or do a revolution for the sake of action rather than purpose.
Shouldn't we concentrate on clear objectives and goals before having all this talk about how marxism-leninism-maoism-gonzalo thought is superior to cybernetic-trotskism-councilism in achieving [we run into the problem here]?

>inb4 abolition of private property, abolition of capitalism, abolition of alienation

We can't actually base our objectives around these vagues goals though, or at least not at the current time and at the forefront. Abolition of private property doesn't mean anything if there's no framework to offer an alternative or to replace it. Marx laid us many goals but, given that he didn't specify what or how, shouldn't it be up to us to conceptualize the type of system which we want in accordance with the relevant theories he proposed.

Apart from small intellectuals scattered everywhere (Cockshott, Schweickart etc), there seems to be an evident lack of clear model that actually adresses the critique of marx's ambitions and dismisses its apparent utopianism.
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>>2580663
Shut up retard, you are too dumb to do anything but circlejerk theories 200 years old. Unions and the workers party ain't gonna achieve shit. Have you actually engaged with the world today outside your computer? This nonsense will never gain any traction in the West again.
And also, id kill myself before I ever suggested anything to do with labour vouchers.

>>2580766
Revolutionary Spain was a mess though. The anarchists refused to seize state power and ended up propping up the liberal republicans. And the attempt at post-capitalist social relations was an incoherent hodgepodge of local systems which barely worked and had to be superseded by an abortive attempt at central planning.

>>2580651
They don't though. They propose many reforms but they fundamentally don't have a way to coordinate labor whilst simultaneously negating private property.

>>2580588
>What do you think of a social network as a sort of hub for direct voluntary organisation of labour
That's a bit like parecon. Imo it could work but it's highly idealistic if it aims to suppress the bulk of production.
I could see it however in a socialist or post-capitalist setting progressively supplanting small services

>>2581203
>Imo it could work but it's highly idealistic if it aims to suppress the bulk of production.
>I could see it however in a socialist or post-capitalist setting progressively supplanting small services
Yeah, of course, it would be impossible to supplant the bulk of production instantaneously. But it is something that could as you say progressively supplant services, and work in conjunction with state seizure. As an alternative economic model it does have possibilities, and could constitute the slow withering of state control of industry.
Something I haven't seen proposed from people purely interested in taking control of the political apparatus. Both are required.

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>>2581119
This nonsense is playing out with ubi and job loss due soyence and technology



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Is it impossible to be unbiased? Or is it rather that a prevalence of biased sources makes it difficult to arrive at the truth?

If we were to say that it is impossible to be unbiased, then how do you arrive at objective truth? Is it to be self-aware and honest about these biases and then to adjust? Doesn‘t this necessitate knowledge about objective truth beforehand to be able to make such an adjustment? And wouldn‘t that be a contradiction to the initial claim that it is impossible to be unbiased?



 

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>>2580917
This is unrelated to the content of his speech, but man he sucks at speaking. He pauses, he mumbles, he changes his distance from the microphone way too often. Sheesh.

>>2581227
>You think the Zionist would know better than to try and make this about them.
The narcissism is just too tempting


>the epstein files are on my desk
>have fake photo op with the most braindamaged people on X the everything app
>files actually aren’t real and you’re a retard for thinking they are
>actually they do exist but JDPON Don is NOT in them he was just best friends with Epstein for 3 decades but he didn’t know he was a pedofile and was anti

>>2581006
madur-go to the polls



 

Apparently folks are still confused about the purpose of sex education. not on here necessarily but like in general

The first and most important component of sex ed is teaching children
a) How to recognize if an adult is sexually abusing you, and
b) What to do if an adult is sexually abusing you.

Comprehensive sex ed includes other topics, including discussion of what changes your body will go through in puberty and how to have safe sex, but those can and usually do come later.

Sex education needs to start as early as possible, because if kids don't start sex ed until age X, then pedophiles know they can more easily get away with abusing kids who are younger than X.

The people most likely to sexually abuse kids are their parents, which is why we need schools, not parents, to provide sex education.  

You likely can't teach a lesson about sexual abuse to a 1-day-old baby, but you absolutely can teach a 5-year-old.  

When you hear policymakers say "kindergarten is too young to get sex education," what they are really saying is that they want to rape kindergartners and not get caught.
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>>2580868
>CIA makes shit up about China
>China based for doing [shit CIA claimed China did]
>overall narrative: China did thing CIA made up about it.

>>2580549
You are the most arrogant person on this entire forum and the worst part is is that you have no self awareness of it. You don't understand Chinese, you have no exposure to Chinese media, you have never been to any part of China, and from your previous posts have signaled that you think China is a imperalist capitalist country. If you had been born in a republican instead of democrat your fat american lardass would have easily bought into the WMDs in Iraq bullshit because all you know how to do is blindly trust what Westerners say over everyone else.

>>2581035
>gets called out for believing what western media says about China
>immediately accuses other anons of this
Also why the fuck would you ever leave China if you've been there, even if it was tourism? The Hong Kong thing was such a contentious issue for you that you happily returned to your unwalkable suburb back in the US? You didn't have any urge to stay whatsoever?
>Assigned Party At Birth

>>2576260
This place and the left is not a good fit for you, may i suggest the church?

>>2581035
>fat american lardass
Gonna stop you right there. Considering you're aware of my other posts on this site, you should be aware that I'm Haitian.
>You are the most arrogant person on this entire forum
Kkkry about it some more kkkracker. I'm glad my contempt can be felt through the computer screen.
>If you had been born in a republican instead of democrat
Lmao people aren't fascists because they're born fascists. They're fascists because of concrete parasitic social and economic relations on a global scale. Relations like those that enable social fascists like you to afford that cute tourist trip to China unlike 99% of the workers of the world.



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>>2578736
So glad my Fox New grandpa died. This meme was unironically him.

>>2554359
Banger, but why tf is kautsky before social chauvinism?

>>2580240
should have made chudjak into tojo, since the other two 'jaks were 'ssolini and 'itler

>>2573118
interesting, where did lassalle make these points? I see he has a page on marxists.org but i'm not sure where to start

>>2581085
hmmm… good point i will be making an updated version soon



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