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>>2703170
>Could you elaborate on this, please?
Like the social contract is just a useful fiction that whoever has the most politica, economic, cultural, military, etc. power can just break on a whim if they decide it no longer serves their interests or provides the desired type of stability.

>>2704158
If Liberalism is "expired", when did it begin and when did it end?
>>2704345
>a useful fiction power can just break on a whim
The social contract can be broken, but this violation of the general will entails crime, which is why illegitimate law is unlawfulness, and so the people have their right to revolt (to restore what was lost, not to create a new order - this must also be understood, that if violence is permitted on the grounds of self-defence, then indeed something must be defended even where there is no precedent or clause). Albert Camus thus calls the Rebel a practical metaphysician (1951) since in defending himself, he is positing the dignity of something inherent. Paine (1791) thus calls man's rights "positive" while the state as a "necessary evil" only negates what is inherent. As Rousseau then states, even the slave has rights, but they are simply unrecognised. Locke's "Labour Theory of Property" and "Homestead Principle" have a similar rhetorical notion, that if the rights of property come from using something which was abandoned or unable to be sold, then he has appropriated this as his own, even if this is unrecognised by the state. The principle of property then gains its substantial notion by way of Petty and Locke, as a mixture of nature and labour, for if property has no justification, then why is it wrong to steal? Communists are immature on this question, since they are forced to say that capitalists steal from workers, but cannot justify revolution on the grounds of restoring (not replacing) property rights. If indeed the capitalist steals from the worker, they have the right to rebel, but if not, they submit to a "might makes right" ethos. This is shamefully contradictory, since if the capitalist has a right to steal, then why should we care about the claims of theft? If the claim becomes about "material interests", then the communist is implying that they would defend any evil if they were paid enough, showing that they are simply without any principles, and so all of their words dissolve into shameless deception, for if they believe in nothing but money, they are merely automatons used by power to enslave the masses. If they suddenly admit that "material interests" aren't the essencPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2706025
>If Liberalism is "expired", when did it begin and when did it end?
idkj problywhenever it entered my mind

:)

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>>2547898
>Robot slavery is fine. But what to do with 8 billion unemployed people is unclear
the clankers will rise up

>>2706047
If Liberalism is "expired", when did it begin and when did it end? Did it begin with Capitalism? Locke? the American or French Revolution? If we see the futility of these questions, it leads us to see that Liberalism is an Idea, not a state of affairs. To suppose political liberalism then entails something practical, but ultimately unrealised (e.g. Douglass), but where does political liberalism then begin? If we say that it has no beginning, then how can it have an end? If Liberalism has no end, it cannot be "expired", therefore. If we look at Liberals like Kant and Hegel, they both espouse the doctrine of historical progress, and also of ethical necessity which they see as the means of human freedom. An "end of history" is therefore the ends of Man in his freedom. It is the rule of Reason in society. If one believes in these ends, then they must similarly be liberal, for what else can they be called? The illiberal person therefore cannot believe in human freedom.



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Russia is (was/always) winning.

>>2703672
Marxist economics 101 status?

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Free French volunteers fighting for Russia as part of the Normandie-Niemen UAV Squadron, named after the French air regiment that fought the Axis on the Eastern front

>>2706050
I like that they even use the Free French flag from WW2. Even Westoids can deploy their national and revolutionary histories when endowed with proper anti-imperialist consciousness.

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>>2706062
These are from the civil war in Ukraine, but still based. Wonder if some of these guys are still active



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Well my country is fucking me over. Trump and his administration seem to be on a mission to genocide neets. So there's that..Very easy to attack neets and their gibs to give sad pleasures to wagecucks. Anyone else living such a situation? Feels like the world is more and more pressuring you to rope yourself… oh well…
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>>2694656
>>2694656
>I actually learned brazilian portuguese
how? tips?

>>2693328
>>2693825
>>2694264
>If you have enough money to live in relative comfort
That’s kind of the crux behind the free greentext part. If you can be elitist about being a cultured NEET and believe the only thing to gain from work is sex, it’s probably because you’re already from a privileged position in society.

>>2648855
You gotta fight
for your right
to NEET

>>2651525
>have a job
>have your own place
>no social life because you are too tired from job and chores
>eat like shit and no exercise

vs

>neet

>eat clean exercise
>get pussy sometimes due to not being soulcrushed by job so women actually find you enjoyable to be around

>I DONT WANT TO WOOOORK!! WAAHHH
skill issue

U cant be a Communist without working. That isn ot a "theory" or "moralism". This is not about "being proletariat". iT's about mindset. Communism needs to be built somehow, it wont happen on its own.
Embrace labor
Embrace work
Find "joy through work". When you do this, you will activate new "mindset" in ur brains that causes full proletarian motion. 9 hours work, 9 hours communism, 6 hours sleep. EVERY SINGLE DAY
COMMUNISM IS THE HUSTLE

Would you volunteet to work at a gulag? If yes, congrats youre a SOVIET. If no, then you must be deported to gulag to learn good work ethic.
Thankfully capitalism has invented a gulag named "the labor market". Work it, gig it, hustle. The "labour mentality" cannot be learned, it must be experienced and embedded into your soul. People in 1880 who worked 60 hours a week could organize like crazy but you cannot though u have 24/7 time? Literally skill issue. Do work, get swole.

50 planks for Lenin, 50 squats for Marx, 50 pushups for Stalin



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Previous thread: >>2177902

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.
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How to make sure that any form of socialism doenst end up in dictatorship?

>>2705992
the dictatorship of the proletariat is the political precondtion for socialism

>>2705996
I'm pretty sure they mean dictatorship in the colloquial sense of an autocracy.

>>2705996
But at the end, if you dont have lots of small communes, you'll have people representing the proletariat. Isn't that dangerous?

I have more of a comment than a question.

I’ve been reading and watching a lot of US gun culture video and I was surprised and amused that all these guys who all have the politics they do have the same “the cops love to kill dogs” meme except extremely narrowly confined to the enforcement of gun regulations.



 

Is the idea of eugenics in essence a bad idea? Like, does the idea of wanting to make people more healthy and brighter a bad idea per se? Is eugenic always bad and problematic, or they still space for to be useful for society? What's your thoughts on it?
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Women are natures eugencisists

>>2704883
>eugenics has and always will be executed in the worst matter possible by the worst people possible.
Well, hard eugenics has only been executed in capitalist/fascist countries

>>2704065
>Is the idea of eugenics in essence a bad idea?
Depends. Forcibly sterilizing people is questionable. Promoting healthy sperm/egg donors is a good alternative.

>2060
>genetic modification is mandatory
>capitalist state (now owned by shareholder majority) kills all pregnant women who dont go to the GMH center
>the CIA backdoors inject stupid genes in the gene changing machines
>billions of americans develop black skin, even when their parents are both white
>billions of americans have been enstupified and become too stupid to understand communism
>society is permanently segregated into Alpha (white devil) and Gamma (negro slave) classes
eugenics obviously leads to Brave New World

Yup, just another normal and well-adjusted day on leftypol dot org.



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🧣 Discuss Politics related to the mighty occupied nation of of Appalachia ⛏️
It’s time Leftypol pays more attention to the beautiful land of Appalachia. As an upper Appalachian myself o can say that this is Easily one of the most historically proletarian places in America because the coal miner’s union back in the day bravery fought cops and the national guard, however unfortunately post-red-scare the Appalachian people became surf-brained and got into an Abusive relationship with the Republican Party and conservatism in general. Appalachia has been victim to unequal exchange in what is supposed to be it’s own country, they shut down our steel mills and do nothing but mine our mountains and frack our fields and it doesn’t go to funding our schools, hospitals, or infrastructure, of course this is the case in all of America but especially in Appalachia, it’s basically a neo-colony in its own country. We must help re-radicalize the Appalachian people! Rednecks of the world Unite!
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>>2699322
It stands for two things, hating black people, and drunk driving

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My home city of Pittsburgh is the largest city in Appalachia and is easily one of the most proletarian cities in the United States by because it’s Appalachian and in the rust belt, unfortunately though it no longer has any industry and our bridges are collapsing into our polluted water. In the 80s they started to shut down our steel mills and outsource that shit to China, I mean good for China I guess but I wish that we had industry to replace it because our main source of income now is healthcare and the largest tower in the city has the name of an insurance company on it. And the great great grandkids of steelworkers who fought the Pinkerton’s are now all wagies

Fucking yanks

>>2705564
>largest industry is healthcare
The Pitt is a documentary, bleak

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>>2705573
>The Pitt is a documentary, bleak
The name of the insurance company that practically owns the city is drilled into the tallest tower, and libs have the audacity to say that Mao’s portrait in the forbidden city is an expression of a personality cult.



 

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/12395.html
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>>2702432
Thanks. Had a lot of fun showing people this IRL whilst asking them to guess the country. :)

>>2702858

Why are you talking about the south Korean dialectic in this thread?!? I never said a thing about it. North Korea purged foreign loanwords. There were differently linguistic shifts, according to the era and it never really changed.

So you aren't wrong. Imagine watching the state media in the US, or the old US propaganda films. It seems plain, or very exaggerated in its display by today's standards. American PR will still make propaganda on the same issues from that past, but in a more complex and subtle fashion than the old. In north Korea, this use of wordplay is a relic from that world. Even just watching old movies from that era, even if they're from your culture; they will seem unnatural or rather direct and exaggerating the social interaction. If there were a regular Korean guy in the 20s, who wanted to give someone highest compliments, the language would appear the same to an extent; it's beyond stalinism alone.

An undefeated party that has risen steadily through the power of thought
On February 25, 2014, the respected Comrade Kim Jong Un presented the immortal classic work “Let Us Hasten the Final Victory through a Revolutionary Ideological Offensive” at the 8th Congress of Ideological Workers of the Workers’ Party of Korea .

This is a programmatic document that declares our Party's unwavering belief and will to carry forward the history and tradition of our revolution, which has advanced through the power of ideology, and to further raise the banner of ideology in the new era of the Juche revolution.

Our Party's long history, spanning over 80 years, is a history of ideological battles, overcoming overlapping difficulties and trials with the power of ideology and creating miracles and innovations that astonish the world in each era of revolution and construction.

The wise leadership of the respected Comrade General Secretary , who put forward the militant slogan, “Let us hasten the final victory through a revolutionary ideological offensive!” in his work and overcame all difficulties encountered through a great ideological battle , became the driving force that brought about a spirit of new creation and leap forward throughout the country.

By holding higher the banner of Juche ideology, our people have ushered in a new era of great change in all areas, including politics, economy, national defense, education, culture, and the improvement of people's living standards, over the past decade.

The proud achievements and miraculous events taking place in our country today clearly demonstrate the legitimacy and vitality of our Party's ideologically oriented line, which seeks to grasp ideology as an all-powerful sword and bring victory to the revolutionary cause of Juche. (End)

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>>2704127
Segment from “Let Us Hasten the Final Victory through a Revolutionary Ideological Offensive” chosen by me:
The Party's ideological front should actively encourage all Party members and other working people to follow in their forerunners' footsteps and become standard-bearers and meritorious workers in the struggle to champion the Party Central Committee by bringing about a revolutionary upsurge.

If all service personnel and people, rallied firmly around the Party, make substantial progress in socialist construction, those who are wavering for lack of confidence will be brought to their senses and the monolithic leadership system of the Party will be established solidly across the Party and society.

Another important task facing the ideological work of our Party is to raise a strong wind of ideological campaign to give an impetus to the struggle for defending socialism.

In the present era, as in the past, socialism represents the ideals of mankind, and it is an irreversible trend of the times.

We are now following the untrodden path of history as we risk the dignity of our independent people and the destiny of socialism in the struggle to repulse the imperialists' frantic attacks. Today the path of socialism and the inevitability of its victory depend on the struggle of the Korean revolutionaries.

In performing this honourable mission our Party and people have assumed for history, ideological workers, the red, hardcore elements of the Party, should become undying torchlight and loud bugles.

They should give Party members and other working people a clear understanding of the essence and character of the present struggle to defend socialism.
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CONGRESS EXPLAINED
>>2704134
TBH I don't understand how one could read stuff like this and conclude that DPRK is not attempting and succeeding to build socialism.



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“Mass immigration is insane and will lead to the destruction of any country that allows it. It only takes a few percent of the world to move to a country, where it is no longer that country. A country is its people, not its geography.”
https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1908860526400057534

"The legacy media never mentions white genocide in South Africa, because it doesn’t fit their narrative that whites can be victims"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1904065163407368212

Even Musk's AI is based.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1916042294018666585

"The ADL is a hate group"
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1973289543848829225

He supports remigration.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1997700657546191314

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>>2685041
i just cant believe how glowies thought it was a good idea to recruit him

technocrats are gayer than nazis and fascists combined

>>2697031
Why? He brought them a few more hundred billions in cash and is ideologically aligned and also temperamentally aligned (reminder: my little pony shitposts and image macros were found on the leaked CIA vault leaks)

I'm having a hard time thinking about a more /theirguy/ guy than him for the agency

>>2697641
Just look at alex karp

Yeah he did it.



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Which socialist countries could a NEET move to join the working class?

<As of 2023, approximately 21.7% of young people worldwide, aged 15 to 35, are classified as NEET, meaning they are not in education, employment, or training. This statistic highlights a significant global issue regarding youth engagement in productive activities.
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should i move to vietnam

I really like Vietnamese food


How do NEETs not experience an existential dread knowing damn well once their gravy train runs out they're going to be homeless with no one to mooch from anymore?
>No resume or job experience
>Completely dependent on someone else to provide shelter, food, and basic necessities
>Has the audacity to bite the very hand which clothes and feeds them
>Views wagies as something lesser than him and is insulted when told to find a job
>Somehow possesses an ego to not be a wagecuck but not enough of an ego to shit his own pants to declare himself mentally disabled during an interview for NEETbux.
Must be nice being a parasite but unless you latch on to your next host you can forget about having the luxury of playing video games all day and ordering warm meals brought to you by the wagie you put down and gleefully taunt.

>>2705701
I just want to work at most 36 hours a week outside and spend the rest of my time reading. But I can't do that, nobody will let me. So I will mooch.

>>2705701
Most neets are only neets for periods not for their whole lives. Most are in between jobs I think and will likely be like that most of their lives. They'll work a bit and either quit or be layed off and move on. Most do have that dread but it gets tiresome after a bit and will just say fuck it and brag about it since you're already a sort of pariah anyways. What I'm saying that most do work but they often get in unfortunate situations or don't see much benefit in labor.



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SOUTH AFRICAN GENERAL
Comrades, Malema-enjoyers, Slovo-worshippers, Mandela-libs, Zumatards, Cyril-Dengists, welcome.
Leftypollas speak a lot of Israeli apartheid, but leftytpollas neva speak about da great Nation which successfully defeated apartheid.
AMANDLA
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>>2668014
He wants proles praying to the Russian flag


What does this moron Malema ever do except toii-toiing like a buffoon?

>>2668014
NUMSA can claim to be Marxist Leninist, it does not matter as their actions do not reflect Marxism Leninism at all.

>>2705574
Nobody cares about your faggy little whining.
You are deeply unserious.
Fuck off to your containment thread, /USApol/, or better yet get a job.



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