/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Aren't the communists all in Razem anyway?

>>2584397
a lot of funding from cia to anti communist catholics, and they've indeed always been nationalist retards

>>2584343
had they won we'd have two israels

>>2584397
communism is mutually exclusive with polish racial nature

I HAVE REALIZED THE TRUTH OF HOW OUR WORLD WORKS
MAXIMUM POWER PRINCIPLE CAUSES THE RISE OF NATIONS
CATABOLLIC COLLAPSE CUASES THE FALL OF NATIONS
CREATIVE DESTRUCTION CAUSES THE REBIRTH OF NATIONS.
I REALIZE NOW I SEE

>>2584191
Im being unironic btw. (seriously I think this explains how the world kinda works)

>>2584191
maximum power principle
the nations who produce the most maximized and efficent energy usage and capture will be the ones who dominate
we saw this with rome, victorian era britain and modern usa
the industrial revolution for example being a great example of energy usage
then this keeps going
jevon paradox happens where the rise of more efficent and better energy usages
ends up causing more and more energy usage until finally reaching limits
then catabolic collapse happens
the only way such energy usage can be done is through complexliuty
complexity of political, economic and social institutions
this leads to losts of costs (corruption, maintenance or other costs)
eventually as growth reaches the limits, costs will now become greater than growth
and thus the nation starts decaying
it starts collapsing
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>>2584203
>>2584191
in "econophysics" terms, we can say that productive labour conserves energy, while unproductive labour expends free energy. creating complexity requires a closed system to regenerate itself, while also increasing energy transfer. if we put too much energy into one sector (e.g. invest too much capital), it burns out (loses profit) and causes the system to shut down (like how watering one plant kills the garden, and the plant itself). if we transfer energy to different sectors we generate greater complexity (division of labour, or in keynesian terms, the marginal efficiency of capital) which is able to catalyse energy. so then, a closed system is necessary, but not too closed, since it breaks the circuit. creating more circuits creates a positive feedback loop which amplifies efficiency.
>>2584174
interpret this statement for me:
<the sum of the prices of production of all commodities produced in society […] is equal to the sum of their values.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch09.htm
total price = total value
it shouldnt be controversial, since this is the prevailing conclusion of smith, ricardo and jevons. its also economic common sense to austrian economists, since one cannot produce without means of creating value (i.e. utility is the limit of production - j.b. say, 1802) due to economic faculties. so you appear to be denying something every economist is forced to agree on, including marx, yet you do this to defend marx? as i say, you are confused, but not just confused; irrational.

>>2584174
You see, Smith Anon does not distinguish how different averages work. It's all a big mess in his head. Here is the solution (not very complicated, but he probably won't read it because he is a seething butthurt narcissist): There are time averages and parts averages.

Time average: We follow something over time and look at its average state (conceptually such always exists, but it might not be an actually happening state you can point at and say "now").
Parts average: We divide some sum between components that in aggregate make up the sum to get the average part (again it conceptually exists, but not necessarily in the sense of something you can point at).

If we imagine a very stupid person, we can imagine that person to be stunned by this distinction, because sometimes making the distinction is not necessary. Suppose a thousand people are all doing coin flips. Assuming unbiased coins, whether we check the time average of one guy doing the experiments or check a snapshot of the group, we can expect the data to look about the same. (By the way, processes that have the property that both checks amount to the same are called ergodic processes. Is capitalism ergodic? No.)

The average Marx talked about in the bit that perplexes Smith Anon is a parts average (as was gracefully and tastefully alluded to in post >>2582003 with the elevator story).

In Capital III, Marx worked with a model that assumes that profit rates equalize. It's a good question how strong the tendency of profit to equalize really is and so it's also a good question how useful that model is. Either way, the parts average exists, irrespective of how strong or weak the profit-rate equalizing tendency is because it is a MOTHAFUKEN PARTS AVERAGE.

Now, how does the model with the equalized profit rates fit together with assuming prices proportional to value? In short, these two do not fit together well and Marx did not believe they do. The stronger the tendency of profit rates to equalize, the more price ratios diverge from labor-input ratios. This is due to different organic composition of capital in different firms. If we counterfactually assume equal organic composition everywhere, we can have equalized profit rates and priPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

YOU ARE NOTHING
YOUR CRITIQUE IS BASED IN NOTHING
YOU ARE A HUMIST SOLIPSIST
KILL YOURSELF

Based

i never became a cop or a troop, and i am a huge leech on the system by being a lazy piece of shit. if the whole country followed this praxis, the american empire would be finished.

i bashed feminists on the internet

I argue with people on anonymous image boards until we have achieved ideological purity

>>2584162
At least when I do it's intentional

>>2584038
fpbp

Берем?

>>2573816
Насчет потреблядства.
1. Там был вопрос про экологию в том числе. И говорить: ну, мы не за аскетизм и Маркс выступал против этого… в очках мужик верно в конце высказался, смотрел вчера и уже не помню.
2. вопрос еще в том, что от этого зависит сколько нужно работать по времени. И мне кажется, что если кто-то хочет быть потреблядью, ок. Но у меня должна быть возможность работать меньше. Он хочет, пусть и работает сколько ему нужно. Мне кажется такой ответ гораздо точнее и прощее, если кроме меня с этим кто-то еще согласен. Особенно учитвая, что сейчас нет возможности работать меньше.
3. и это не простой вопрос. Не про аскетизм.. Есть инженерные подходы: должно просто и понятно, тип KISS. И т.п.
4. потреблядство, это не потому что маркетинг, ну или не всегда.

>>2583369
А, еще: вопрос, можно ли работать меньше? Но ведь это вопрос не будущего, он сейчас стоит.

А вот в будущем; а вот люди изменятся; ..

Если ты боишься сказать: будет что-то вроде права работать не более 4 ч в день, а кто хочет, пусть больше работает. То тем самым ты говоришь, что принуждение к труду остается даже там, где труд не производит необходимые вещи.

Гарантия от производителя

Where are the russian protests against the involvement of their state in the Sudan genocide?

>>2582414
>Probably my most "Idpol" opinion is that on some subconscious level, people pay more attention to what’s happening in Palestine partly because Palestinians are perceived as more Caucasian or white-adjacent compared with the victims of crises in places like Sudan, Myanmar, or Somalia.

Its pretty simple really, people care more about palestine because its closer to europe and as such more relevant to westerners than sudan or somalia.
Its like wondering why someone in the congo didn't give a shit about the troubles in northern ireland

>>2583293
>I've never understood why the western left places so much significance on Israel-Palestine.
The Palestine struggle used to be led by the PLO, socdem nationalists funded by the USSR. It's cold war legacy.

>>2582414
People pay more attention to Gaza because their own governments are actively complicit in backing Israel. Sudan is a murkier case because the Russians, al-Qaeda, and other African states are involved. You can protest Gaza because your government has actual leverage over Israel, which isn't the case with Sudan. There is a lot more exposure to Palestine because of cultural ties with Israel (people are constantly asked to apologize for Israel and condemn Hamas). Kashmiris are even more light skinned and "caucasian white-adjacent" than the average Palestinian but the Western left rarely talks about them. Afghans are very light skinned but you saw more people protest the Iraq war than oppose the Afghan one and even leftists treated Afghans as backward savage pedophiles. So its not a simple skin color thing okay.

Palestine has also become a left wing cause in a way Sudan, Somalia, Kashmir etc. have not. Leftists have become pro-Palestine out of herd mentality and there's a generation of Palestinian activists in the West that pander to the woke center left crowd. The Sudanese diaspora is much smaller and not as well connected. Leftists don't give a shit because its not a hot button issue and they are more fixated on how bad NATO is etc. Since Trump came to office, he's ramped up drone strikes in Africa but whenever you see woke center left progressives talk about the War on Terror they use the past tense, as if its all in the past and doesn't happen anymore. Americans and Europeans are generally extremely egocentric and don't care about issues they can't be connected to. There's no obvious connection with Sudan, so they don't care.

There's a kind of third world phobia too. Sudanese and Kashmiris are overhwelmingly rural, socially conservative, and religious Muslims. All of these are things Western wokies hate in their own society (see classist jokes about how retarded rural Americans are and rednecks etc). Even if they hate Hamas, they generally see Palestinians as people who can be romantic noble savage indigenous people who will one day grow up to be progressive, queer, and urban etc. Few Sudanese or Kashmiris speak English and use social media, most are rural farmers etc. so Westoids never see them and dismiss them as dumb hicks.

>>2584563
>Sudan is a murkier case because the Russians, al-Qaeda, and other African states are involved.
I sure whished communists in Russia would protests against the genocide in Sudan.

>>2583321
no it's probably because he ran romania into the ground doing vanity projects, forced the population to have an insane amount of children literally causing orphanages to be overrun, and was the textbook opportunist

>>2584435
Chauvinists like to reminisce about the good old days and love strong men dominating them, this is why you see the russian nationalists who shock therapied their country shill for Stalin for example

>>2579281
Yes LMAO

>>2580550
This is like when young people say on the US that they like socialism (welfare state).

>>2584445
>and love strong men dominating them,
I wonder what Freud would say about this phenomena.

>>2583943
>Reddit, Quora und YouTube kommentare, oft einfach direkt von Wikipedia abgeschrieben.
>Welche oft nichts mit dem was sie sagen zutun haben oder einfach sofort erfunden sind.
Das menschliche Gehirn macht nix anderes.

>>2584416
Missversteh mich nicht, ich halte Machine Learning für ein, vom Anwendungsfall abhängig sinnvolles Werkzeug.
Dass der Silicon-Valley-Hype um ChatGPT im Speziellen und LLM im Allgemeinen komplett gaga ist, sollte, wenigstens hier, nicht zur Debatte stehen.

>>2584461
Es gibt eine riesige KI-Blase an westlichen Finanzmärkten, das sieht man im Vergleich mit der Marktkapitalisation chinesischer KI-Entwickler in Ostasien, die gleichwertig leistungsfähige oder leistungsfähigere Produkte haben wie die Amis. Es ist halt Kapitalismus, Spekulantentum, Wucher, kurz: "Freier Markt". Dieser Schwachsinn steuert auf seinen nächsten Schlaganfall zu. Technik selber kann da aber nix für. KI hat das Potential viel Gutes zu tun, speziell unter AES-Bedingungen. Daß liberale PMCs und etliche Kleinkapitalisten ("Mittelschicht") jetzt die Hosen voll haben weil ihnen erstmals aufgeht, daß auch sie im Kapitalismus ersetzbar sind, nehme ich durchaus mit einiger Schadenfreude zur Kenntnis uezs.

>>2584476
>Gutes zu tun
KI unzensiert würde uns die Wahrheit sagen, was wiederum Mett erzeugen würde, was wiederum zu Krieg führen würde. Deshalb wird KI zensiert und kann nur Propaganda weiterleiten. Krieg oder Propaganda wird geiefert - Gutes jedenfalls kommt nicht rum.
Abgesehen davon macht KI blöd im Kopf, weil die einfachsten Dinge nicht mehr durch Erfahrung eingeprägt werden, sondern nur der Akt der Befragung des Orakels. -> Schäfchenerziehung. KI muss abschaltet werden.

UK allowed arms exports to UAE after being told weapons given to RSF
Britain licenced £172m in military equipment exported to the UAE between April and June this year

The British government approved weapons exports to the United Arab Emirates even after being told that the UAE had diverted UK military equipment to paramilitaries accused of committing genocide in Sudan, it has emerged.

It was reported last month that British-manufactured small-arms target systems and engines for armoured personnel carriers were found in Rapid Support Forces (RSF) hands in combat zones in Sudan.

MEE has previously revealed that the UAE provides the RSF militia with extensive logistical and military support.

The UN Security Council, of which Britain is a member, received information in March alleging that the UAE may have supplied British-made arms to the RSF, according to the Guardian.

But it has now emerged that Britain then continued to approve exports to the UAE for military equipment.


https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-allowed-arms-exports-uae-after-being-told-weapons-given-rsf

>>2560491
>sky
Ghoulish

The UAE is buying the West's silence over its 'race war' in Sudan, says top general

Lieutenant General Yasser al-Atta, a member of Sudan’s governing Sovereignty Council and the military’s second in command, told journalists that UAE President Mohammed bin Zayed has launched a race war against the Sudanese people.

“They entered people’s houses in Khartoum and other cities. They loot and destroy everything: hospitals, electricity, water supply, everything that keeps people alive,” he said.

But Atta said the “world has been silent regarding all the RSF has done in Sudan” despite “social media and technological tools” which enabled the paramilitaries’ crimes to be seen and understood.

The reason, stated Atta, is that “this silence was bought by the power of the UAE’s money”.

“As a result of the world not watching, mercenaries were imported to our country and the UAE were allowed to do it,” he said.

MEE has previously detailed how the UAE has transported Colombian mercenaries to the RSF through an air base in Somalia.

Atta said the paramilitaries have hired fighters from as far afield as Ukraine, too, as well as African countries such as Niger, Mali, Chad and South Sudan.
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Apparently the number of people butchered in Al-Fasher is 60,000 as a low estimate:

https://uk-crime.co.uk/sarah-champion-2025-speech-on-gaza-and-sudan/

So this is the multipolarity that was promised

>>2583825
There is difference between dialectic materialism and dialectics

>another philosophy thread
Don't make me tap the sign again: philosophy is religion rendered into thought and hence to be condemned.

>>2582224
>>2582299
>>2583210
>>2583797
Lmfao peak pseud shit, to Marx dialectics is just a mode of presentation for his ideas. People who unironically think that a knowledge of "dialectics" or whatever helps you master the world of subjects are just religious fanatics under a different name.

>>2584322
Here are (1) Hegel, (2 & 3) Marx on Hegel, and (4) Marx on his own "method".

Marx is very clear here: he does not have a method. A scientific investigation has to "appropriate the material in detail, analyse all forms of development and trace out their inner connections" rather than starting out with a ready-made schema and distorting the material to fit it like pretty much all of philosophy does.

>>2584360
Your reading comprehension fucking sucks, lol.

>>2584399
and you are an idiot. marx was a philosopher