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The crackdown on immigration in the west has the potential to be a good thing for revolutionary and anti-imperialist states, because it will prevent both brain drain and loss of labor forces. The downside is that these countries won't be able to expel the reactionary elements that would otherwise go to the west, especially the US.
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>>2564787
Being Aryan is quite cheap then. 20$ hair dye.

>>2564786
What exactly is this image meant to incite? STEM is overwhelmingly male. What if it was a bunch of whitoids and one brown female?

Yes it will. Brain drain is a real problem. Deport those opportunists back.

>>2566136
Gas the Jews only

I take it back its too mean



 

Leftypol could really learn something from Athenian democracy and the story of Aristides.
The fact Athenian democracy worked so well is what saved them numerous times especially from the advances of the Persian forces.
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>>2569934
Surprisingly good analysis he seems like a sincere man.

>>2555251
That makes you a liability to everyone around you, and they’re perfectly justified in treating you like a pariah

>>2569919
>waifu larper

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>>2569934
truth nuke, burgers don't know their own history

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>>2570222
Milk to cows…
These cows don't want my milk. 🐮 🥛👈
They already have tons of milk – they're cows! 🐄
& if these leftists were going to entertain rightwing ideology, they'd be nazi chuds or fascists over monarchy, which also has us outgunned and outclassed in the modern age
at best monarchy has is religiosity which is a corporatism of its own and satiates it well with Christ so they too don't feel compelled and if they do want a king here on earth the fascist-style corporatism and leader principle covers it which frankly has way more appeal to the burgeoning number of secular people and so as well the religious who admire their popularity and want to get in on that



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If fascisms is capitalist response to a mass organized communist movement, and Trump is arguably a fascist and pushing for fascism, where is the organized communist movement of our day?
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>>2528929
I am just kind of confused because you seem to treat "state" as a separate thing from "government".

>>2528259
First of all Trump is not a fascist but 100% liberal. Current class struggle in america goes on the lines of having living wages, basic healthcare, etc.

The American labour movement is awful, but capitalism is still suffering its worst moment in modern history, and fascism is still necessary to maintain some form of the status quo.

>>2570014
Denying the elephant in the room at this point is just not helpful.
Americans are being stripped of every civil liberty and extreme repression is becoming more and more normalized. The road to techno feudalism is being paved.

>>2528347
>then a lot of modern states are fascist

True: https://libcom.org/article/historical-cycle-political-rule-bourgeoisie-amadeo-bordiga


<Lenin made it clear that anyone who, in their economic analysis, nourishes the illusion that monopoly and statist capitalism can return to the liberal capitalism of the first classical form, is a reactionary. Similarly, we may now clearly say the same thing about anyone who pursues the miracle of a reaffirmation of the democratic liberal political method as opposed to that of the fascist dictatorship, with which, at a certain point of capitalism’s development, the bourgeois forces crush, with a tactic of open, frontal assault, the autonomous organizations of the proletarian class.


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<Just as the Legitimist victors over Napoleon had to inherit the social and juridical framework of the new French regime, the victors over the fascists and the Nazis, in a process of greater or lesser duration, and of greater or lesser clarity, will confirm by virtue of their actions, although they will deny this with hollow ideological proclamations, the need to administer the world, which has been so tremendously altered by the second imperialist war, with the authoritarian and totalitarian methods that were first tested in the defeated countries.


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>Fascism can be defined from the economic point of view as an attempt on the part of capitalism to control and limit its own development, an attempt whose purpose is to curtail, with centralized discipline, the growth of the most alarming aspects of economic phenomena that threaten to render the system’s contradictions irremediable.



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How do you reconcile that this revisionist is responsible for China being the only hope left for socialists? What does China‘s success change about Marxist thought?
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>>2568997
>no, socialism is a transitionary stage headed by a dotp
This is leninist revisionism. Marx never said this.

>>2569008
no, it's classical marxism.
>Between capitalist and communist society lies the period of the revolutionary transformation of the one into the other. Corresponding to this is a political transition period in which the state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat.
marx always framed socialism as a transitional stage, not a final economic system. it also retains elements of the old society. and because it is transitional and contains elements of capitalism, marx does not treat it as a fully realized mode of production.

>>2569036
It was bait but Marx rarely even mentions socialism and instead talks about lower stage communism.

>>2569146
right but thats a semantic difference. we can call it lower stage communism or use the convention of socialism and communism being different stages. the important thing is the class character of the state, and a dtop is not a dtob, its not social production for private profit, but social production for public need according to democratic decision through representative democracy.

i think the reason a lot of people get it twisted is because liberals appropriated a lot of communist rhetoric. like a rising tide really does lift all boats if you actually build necessary infrastructure, but thats not what liberals do thats just what they say.

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>By the spring of 2024, a newly sober Isenberg felt like she could finally stop performing all the time and just be herself, a complex human being who was still learning. She planned to spend the summer living with her parents while saving up money. In the fall, she would become the first person in her family to attend a four-year college. Then she got pregnant.

>The news brought a “sense of dread,” says Isenberg. Her first thought was strong and immediate: I’m not going to have a baby. After a friend had described having an abortion, Isenberg’s own mindset had started to shift. She’d begun to think of herself as pro-choice. It wouldn’t be the end of the world, she thought, if I had an abortion. This is something I’m allowed to do.


>It may seem strange that Isenberg would reach out to Turner in this moment. But she was feeling stressed, sick, and confused and wanted to have a backup plan just in case she didn’t go through with the abortion. She knew Turner—who’d also recently left PAAU but whose politics were growing more, not less, conservative—would try to talk her out of it, but she’d also recently seen Turner using her social media platforms to raise money for pregnant women and mothers in need. Isenberg had less than $100 in her bank account. If she changed her mind, she would be in dire need of financial help.


>“I was also thinking, This is Kristin Turner, the girl I was friends with,” remembers Isenberg. “I wasn’t thinking, She is acting as a vessel for people who are much more powerful than her.”


>Turner put Isenberg in touch with an organization that gave money to women with “crisis pregnancies.” She also asked for Isenberg’s address so she could send her a care package and promised a McDonald’s breakfast if Isenberg agreed to get her ultrasound at a crisis pregnancy center instead of the Charlotte Planned Parenthood (Isenberg declined the latter).


>Isenberg expected Turner and members of PAAU to offer her “counseling” and a lecture on the psychological impacts of abortion and how carrying out a pregnancy is a “nonviolent choice.” She assumed they’d ask their Instagram followers to “say a prayer for my friend who’s chosen the heartbreak of abortion,” as she’d once posted for others. But she believed that in the end, they’d respect he
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>PAAU bitch gets her comeuppance
oh no. oh dear

>>2568466
She became pro-choice before her abortion.

Is it fascism yet, or do we need gay ass military marches LARPing as ancient rome?

>>2567854
I’ll let comrades in Memphis know this.



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Thread №2

Переможный, переговорный, пятнадцатотравневый.

Продолжаем трястись и ждать мобку.
Лолируем с красных фашистов, пыняславов и чучхеисов - вместе.
Переезжаем в тюмень, так как там нефтяная мекка и все жрут черную икру поварешками.
Левый поворот путина будет… надо только подождать… еще лет двадцать.
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>>2568636
>new russian documentary on the october revolution on youtube
link or documentary name?

>>2560064
Мой дед отрицает геноцид в Камбодже. Понятия не имею, почему. Мы живём в Барнауле, не имеем никакого отношения к Камбодже, и он вообще не сторонник теорий заговоров. Он никогда не был в Камбодже и не встречал ни одного камбоджийца, но у него дома дохуя документов "доказывающих этот обман". Например, полный сценарий фильма "Кампучия: народ, который хотели убить" с кучей рандомно выделенных букв якобы указывающих на "секретные послания" от режиссёров. Он утверждает, что Хенг Самрина не существует, и что любая смерть приписываемая "красным кхмерам" "явно является результатом американских бомбардировок", и в качестве доказательства приводит огромные распечатки аэрофотоснимков Камбоджи. Не знаю что не так с Вьетнамом, но если это ему сказать он зовет меня "социал-империалистической свиньей".

>>2569620
ВАМ ЛИБЕРАЛАМ НЕ ПОНЯТЬ ЧТО ОТСТАИВАНИЕ ЧЕСТИ ТОВАРИЩА ПОЛ ПОТА НА САМОМ ДЕЛЕ НЕОТЪЕМЛЕМАЯ ЧАСТЬ ПОСТРОЕНИЯ СОЦИАЛИЗМА В ОТДЕЛЬНО ВЗЯТОМ УМЕ ДАЖЕ МАРКС ПИСАЛ ОБ ЭТОМ В ПИСЬМАХ ЭНГЕЛЬСУ

>>2569330
>No famines during the wars in yurop
Are you retarded?
>Kulaks never hoarded grain and something about le evil bolsheviks seizing supposed non-existent grain
The evil commies also gave me a unicorn.
>Rightwing
I don't need to hide my communist sympathies behind idealistic notions like morality like you lmao

>>2570019
В рунете посты подобные твоему называют последним вскукареком.



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🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Aux armes, citoyens ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
I noticed there is no thread for France related shit. So let this be one. French people deserve a safe space and guarantees for their continued existence on loser imageboards!
J'ai remarqué qu'il n'y a pas de thread dedié pour la France, alors que les salauds américains et anglais en ont des centaines. Français, ne succombez pas à l'impérialisme anglochiotte!

Subjets of Macronpiter, leave a post.
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>>2559619
>crying about a drunk soldier killing your father, healing people indiscriminately, or boasting about killing soldiers crushing your revolution is being a traitor
hope the future communards will put you against the wall too

AFRANCEGERS, RASSEMBLEMENT

>>2559619
You missed the point of the song. It takes place during the last days of the suppression of the Commune. The point is that the suppression is so blind that they're just killing anyone they can get their hands on: Friends of the Commune, Foes of the Commune, and neutrals alike.

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Les capitulards face au sérieux de l'Histoire
https://x.com/rglucks1/status/1991792525989007630

>>2564687
damn thats embarassing

>>2570070
I despise these nato libs so much
>russians gonna attack us because… they think war is war of wills, and they think their society is mentally stronger!
>ww2 is literally the only historical event I know of and everything is a variation of it
who is that slimey fuck so enthusiast about being the moronic vassals of the US and sending french people to their death to fill the pockets of US corporations? oh, ofc, its fucking glucksman, who love calling other fake pacifists from his position of true warmonger and nato stooge.
good ragebait, that macron-v2(Copie) always make my blood boil



 

🌴CALIFORNIA POLITICS 🥑
< The Cesspool of Late-Stage Narcissism Edition

💸🧘Thread for hellish discussion of the Progressive Reich and the smug, solar-paneled hypocrisy of the California Bourgeoisie and its Proletarian Gimps.🌞🍷

<Things will continue to be a performative hellscape where every solution is a branded, venture-capitalist-backed app for a problem they created, where people who preach "sustainability" own three homes and charge their Tesla from a grid powered by fossil fuels. The homeless population will be both a moral crisis and an eyesore to be hidden behind decorative fencing, while the legislature passes another groundbreaking non-binding resolution. The state will burn, flood, and drought simultaneously, and everyone will blame climate change while refusing to address the water-guzzling almond farms or their own lawn. The collapse will be a slow, Instagrammable descent into a smug, self-congratulatory dystopia.


<Death to the land of the fake woke, the exporters of insipid culture, the enabler of NIMBYs, the patron saint of pilates, the captains of crony capitalism, the barons of brunch, the lord of the lease-to-own luxury car, the guarantor of gentrification, the sultan of the startup, the prince of the pinkwashed police state

💧 Drought Tracker 🚰
https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/CurrentMap/StateDroughtMonitor.aspx?ca

🏘️ NIMBY Policy Tracker 🏗️
https://calmatters.org/housing/

📱 Glowie-Tech News 📱
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does anyone here actually like newsom

>>2569798
>/rhodeislandpol/
>STEVE you TROT FUCK, we can all SEE YOUR 4th INTERNATIONAL FLAG, COME OUTSIDE I'LL FUCK YOU

>>2570035
That's like asking, does anyone in California actually like him? Ofc no, but he'll probably be our Democratic nominee for 2028

>>2570063
not sure if a Californian democrat is electable in this political climate but anything can happen i guess



 

Socialism and communism are not modes of production, they're social orders. The mode of production is capitalism and the next mode of production will be full automation in the transition from semi-automation by the fourth industrial revolution. The feuds and the slave owners and the previous modes of production never did the change consciously and neither did the bourgeois when they brought capitalism, they simply developed as much as they could until they changed, they were not a 200 year movement of trying to consciously enact change, think social darwinism.
Anyway the USSR is the loser and ML failed, Dengism won, when the realpolitik geopolitics and all the blablabla is over and China has won the world it will lead towards full automation.
And you only say full automation is impossible because you misinterpret it, you're like those conservative crackers that say communism isnt possible or its utopian, well too bad you're gonna get fucked in the ass one way or another, sucks for you you wont get to live to see that I'm right.
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Why don't we just run electricity through the plumbing system and see what happens? Water is conductive, why the need for cables? We could get electricity with pipes instead.

>>2530240
Aka why you have to get to socialism first, no? The entire reason I sell ML and AI work is because ML and AI are now the means of production to seize. Before it, at porky command, kills us all.

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>>2530021
Next mode of production will have planned economy done by AI but property rights (and thus social classes) will still exist.

>>2530165
AYN RAND communism aka dangist

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We need Third-Worldist scroll, like the Deng Scroll. I have already found some Lenin quotes which explicitly debunk imperialist apologists when they say things like, "Third-Worldism isn't Communism," or "Making imperialists' lives materially worse isn't Communism." This project could very well include citations from all communists, including Marx, Engels, Mao, Deng, etc.

<the industrial workers cannot accomplish their epoch-making mission of emancipating mankind from the yoke of capital and from wars if they confine themselves to their narrow craft, or trade interests, and smugly restrict themselves to attaining an improvement in their own conditions, which may sometimes be tolerable in the petty-bourgeois sense. This is exactly what happens to the “labour aristocracy” of many advanced countries, who constitute the core of the so-called socialist parties of the Second International; they are actually the bitter enemies and betrayers of socialism, petty-bourgeois chauvinists and agents of the bourgeoisie within the working-class movement.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jun/x01.htm
<To tell the workers in the handful of rich countries where life is easier, thanks to imperialist pillage, that they must be afraid of 'too great' impoverishment, is counter-revolutionary. It is the reverse that they should be told. The labour aristocracy that is afraid of sacrifices, afraid of 'too great' impoverishment during the revolutionary struggle, cannot belong to the Party. Otherwise, the dictatorship is impossible, especially in West-European countries.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jul/x03.htm
<The export of capital, one of the most essential economic bases of imperialism, still more completely isolates the rentiers from production and sets the seal of parasitism on the whole country that lives by exploiting the labour of several overseas countries and colonies.
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>>2569886
nearly all communists are doing this all the time and once you see it, you'll be damned by that knowledge forever.
it's all a big joke.

>>2569886
THE EUROID BUTCHER OF NATIONS FEAR THE ATOMIC PEOPLE'S WAR

I supoort it. Then the retards can just post a pdf instead of shitting up threads

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>>2569210
>Mao
>Third-worldist




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