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The Kurdish nationalist movement’s anti-communism

>By Cansu Oba


>A recent article published by one of the Kurdish nationalist movement’s media outlets has provided an opportunity to revisit certain aspects of the movement’s class character and ideological foundations.

>In reality, this stance is not new. Throughout Abdullah Öcalan’s years in prison, he has repeatedly produced statements and writings that target socialist experiences and the founders of scientific socialism. These have for some time been highlighted in the movement’s own media.


>What makes the current moment significant is that Öcalan is one of the central actors in an ongoing political process in Turkey. The “peace process”—carried out with the open support of the leader of the fascist party and through direct contact between Öcalan, a parliamentary commission, and state officials—has transformed the political environment. At the same time, a former co-chair and current MP of the Kurdish nationalist movement’s party, the DEM Party, declared that the party now effectively serves as the country’s main opposition. All of this signals that the emerging bourgeois political landscape provides fertile ground for the resonance between the Kurdish nationalist movement’s attacks on socialism and the bourgeois politics’ more traditional forms of anti-communism.


>Yet the PKK was never, in reality, a genuinely Marxist-Leninist organization. Founded in the late 1970s, a period in which the left dominated Turkey’s political and social arena, the PKK employed Marxist-Leninist terminology and drew from these values, but it was always, at its core, a national movement.


>Claims that Öcalan has “surpassed Marxism”—when considered together with his recent statement that he has been “waiting 50 years to be understood”—suggest a line of ideological continuity rather than a merely conjunctural shift.


>The Kurdish nationalist movement, now firmly situated somewhere between social democracy and nationalism within Turkey’s political landscape, has strengthened ties with various factions of the bourgeoisie, including some of Turkey’s most prominent capitalist families. Meanwhile, its distance from the republic’s founding prin
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Veysi Aktaş: The Turkish left continues with the same old routine, not renewing itself
Leader Apo's message was read at the International Peace and Democratic Society Conference organized in Istanbul by the Peoples' Equality and Democracy Party (DEM Party).

The letter was read by Veysi Aktaş, who was released after spending 30 years in prison, the last 10 of which were in İmralı.

Speaking to Bianet, Aktaş responded to criticisms of the letter. He stated that the common problem stemming from the reaction from the government, as well as the left and socialists, is bigotry. He said, "Bigotry isn't just experienced on the right; it's also experienced on the left. This is one of the most fundamental problems facing the Turkish left. For this reason, a 'breakthrough' is impossible. Socialization is impossible, and those ideological molds can't be broken and established on a political basis."

'SOCIALISTS HAVE NO REASON TO SAY'

Aktaş, reminding that the letter draws attention to the crises experienced by the left not only in Turkey but also globally, stated the following: "There's no end to socialists' words. 'We've told the world what we had to say in the name of socialism, and that's it.' A socialist's words are endless. It's impossible for a socialist to experience political deadlock. Because they are based on society, they're based on truth. These assessments are an acceptance of the end or bankruptcy. The Turkish left, too, continues with this mentality, following the same rote, failing to renew itself. In fact, they're essentially holding onto a set of dogmas. They think that if they abandon these dogmas, they'll be swept away, they'll lose everything. That's why they cling to those dogmas so tightly. And they don't analyze them, they don't criticize them, they don't approach them with a free mind. The same rote is repeated over and over again.

WHY DON'T THE TURKS HAVE A HISTORY OF THE OPPRESSED?

Criticizing the Turkish left's understanding of history and calling for a self-critical approach, Aktaş said: “If they want to interpret the leadership correctly, they need to improve themselves in historical sociology. They need to read history correctly. They are strangers to their own history. Even within their own history, a 'history of the oppressed' hasn't yet been uncovered. Why don't the Turks have a history of the oppressed? They are constantly being imposed upon a hiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2587861
damn based anarchist

>>2587885
God the seething and the 'nooo why aren't you doing what I want you to do?!?' is off the charts here. Its depressing how far fallen the anarchist space has.
Fdpd

I will say, if anarchists were as willing to cooperate with le stalinists in the Spanish civil war as they were in Rojava, Franco would be living in a prison in Morroco.

https://www.autistici.org/tridnivalka/focus-on-rojava/
>Why a focus on Rojava in 2024? Both because of random discussions, but also because the most widespread form of military-revolutionary mythology about Rojava has reappeared as an ideological support for an “anarchist” commitment to the war in Ukraine, going as far as to valorize the career paths of people who have gone from one war to another. On this occasion, a military commitment in Rojava is “naturally” presented as an authoritative justification for joining the Ukrainian troops “in any case”, the case being understood as a leftist or “anarchist” cause.
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>The struggle in Chiapas since the 90s was– and to some extent remains – a banner for this matrix, although this does not coincide with its complex and contradictory reality, a serious analysis of which would take up too much space here. Anyway, a superficial and left-wing vision of Chiapas is often provided by the zealots of “Revolutionary Rojava” in support of their theses, notably on these issues: autonomy, territory, civil society, democracy without a State, participative governance, armed struggle, gender. All these elements need to be critically examined, but the very nature of the ideological matrix is to make them unchallengeable, in a fearsome machine that has seen considerable expansion about Rojava. Instead of talking about the fate of the insurrectional struggle of 2011 and beyond, instead of seeing the Kurdish national movement as antagonistic to that struggle, we are being fooled with the people, militarism-feminism, collaborative economy and the glorification of “civil society”, as if the latter were not the space par excellence of class collaboration, the other face of the State, its guarantor and pillar.



 

So this video has been going viral recently and it’s made me ask: will the demand to designate doctors and nurses as “cops” and the move to abolish doctors, nurses, and hospitals as we know it be the next bullshit wedge issue to divide an already fragile left?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR2sZ0fD2DM/

Basically, she uses Silvia Federici and Michel Foucault to argue that doctors are oppressive, that hospitals are prisons, and that we should seek to go back to a time when witches and doulas were the main providers of healthcare through giving herbal medicines like mugwort and tree bark. She also claims doctors gatekeeper medical knowledge and every individual should take care of their own health without relying on professionals. She also says we need to be more “death positive” and just accept death instead of using medical treatments of offset it.

Personally, I find these types of sentiments dangerous, especially given how we just came out of a pandemic that killed at least 10 million people worldwide and many Americans die due to lack of healthcare access. Your thoughts? Are doctors and nurses the equivalent to cops,(Retarded ragebait)
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>>2587704
Sounds about right.

Did this person just discover Federici?

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>>2588972
>>2588972
Nah Ive been listening to him playing with The Boss my whole life

>>2588996
Rock on brother

>>2588726
That’s hella dangerous.



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Regarding the HK elections. The neolib pro-business party got fucked, the "conservative chinese nationalist" party won a seat and the trade unionist socialists kept their position but with a bigger swing of the vote.

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>>2588781
>31.9 % turnout
I love democracy.

>>2588785
Do you think if turnout was mandatory it would be better or worse?



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>>2586846
>that music makes it a nice little loop
The beat is from "Speaking In Tungs" by CamRon, but the beat samples "Shohmyoh" off the Akira soundtrack, which is a song with Buddhist chanting by Geinoh Yamashirogumi

>>2587208
I think it works really well and is quite hypnotic

>>2578251
damn thats good man

>>2578267
>>2588670
Thank you anons



 

South Yemen secessionists, supported by the UAE, are crushing the Saudi puppet state and took over most of the cities in the Southern part of the country, also taking control of the Oman-Yemen border. But the Southern Transitional Council isn't communist like was South Yemen, and fully supports the Palestinian genocide:

https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/us/2025/09/24/southern-independence-opens-door-to-ties-with-israel-says-yemens-al-zubaidi/

>Transitional Council chief says Abraham Accords will be key to stability after Gaza war

Declaring an independent southern Yemeni state would pave the way for entering the Abraham Accords, the deputy chairman of Yemen's Presidential Council Aidarous Al Zubaidi told The National in an interview.

>The president of the Southern Transitional Council said all the conditions were in place for statehood and added that secession would allow the south to make its own foreign policy decisions, including the option of joining the Abraham Accords.


>“Before the events in Gaza, we were advancing towards joining the Abraham Accords,” he said. “If Gaza and Palestine regain their rights, the Accords will be essential for stability in the region. When we have our southern state, we will make our own decisions and I believe we will be part of these accords.”


>Yemen's eight-member Presidential Council leads the anti-Houthi, internationally recognised government in exile in Aden. The secessionist Southern Transitional Council holds three of those eight seats.


>Mr Al Zubaidi framed independence not just as a local aspiration but as part of a wider commitment to stability in the region. “We support the two-state solution – a Yemeni state in the north and in the south – and a Palestinian state alongside Israel,” he said. “Self-determination is a right. All people have the right to determine their future.”
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>>2588582
Houthis are radical shiites islamist populists, aligned with Iran, the Official government are a coalition of anti-houthi yemenite, supported by the Saudis. The STC are separatists who want an independant South Yemen, they were aligned with the Government from 2019 until very recently.

Honestly none of the side are deserving of support, they're all a bunch of opportunists warlords. but their ideology is much more defined then in Libya.

>>2588585
Is there a sudanese communist party? How are they coping?

>>2588591
sudan is a different country

>>2588591
>Is there a sudanese communist party?
No. None of these conflicts have anything to do with communism.

>>2588714
There is a sudanese communist party and they support the Army in the sudanese civil war (I don't think they've taken a side in the Yemeni civil war)



 

Artists such as Peter Hacks from East Germany interpreted "abolishing the state" from a Hegelian perspective, in that the state will become so big and all emcompassing that everyone born will be a member of the party, and that is the peak of human archievement
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>>2588599
he says socialism requires a strong, rational state, he didn't argue for universal or compulsory party membership.

>>2588607
>he says socialism requires a strong, rational state, he didn't argue for universal or compulsory party membership.

a perfect state has universal membership. its the perfect position for bureacratic ML states without dismantling their bureacracies (which will never happen)

>>2588614
>a perfect state has universal membership
Okay but that is your conjecture, not Peter Hacks. Universal party membership contradicts Hegel’s state theory because the state’s universality is mediated and rational, not totalizing.


>>2588624

you are correct.

But I also heard that in the former Eastern Bloc it was felt that improving the state into perfection was the path towards communism. In my view that seems totalitarian.

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>>2588540
Yes but unironically. Nazism needs to be eradicated on a genetic level.



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Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

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just had cheese on toast. yum

>>2588035
>any pedagogical strategy, practice, or method that improves the performance of the worst students will also improve the performance of the best students
seems obviously false, once you know and understand something, when you have all the right answers, you cant get a better performance.

>cannot admit that some people simply aren’t smart

thats simply false, everyone knows some people are better at certain things, and everyone recognize some people are better academically, but intelligence is a very large and not well understood beast and is not equivalent to academic performance

>>2588176
>There are no issues here that other antifa groupings havent worked around 100s of times begore, im sure.
These are literally novel issues. I get the seriousness, but if they get a bloody nose they post it to twitter and claim money from randos in fuckign Lincolnshire. Literally giving them martyrbait in order to get more popular/famous/rich.

>>2588891
>and everyone recognize some people are better academically, but intelligence is a very large and not well understood beast and is not equivalent to academic performance
Then why put all our eggs in the basket of improving the test scores of those who aren't suited to academia when you could just let them do something they're good at? Why sacrifice them to the cult of schooling?

new thread time soon



 

ANTI-AI BROOS??! I thought AI is le bad???! this is pretty based and will help spread class conciousness!

BODY IS TOO SHORT OR CAN'T BE EMPTY OR SOMETHING.
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How much electricity, land, and water is this thing consuming?

OH NO NO NO NOOO

>>2588592
Shameful shit, as if there's any shortage of leftists willing to write polemic for free

>>2588571
leftists are the only pocket of mild resistance to the imposition of the ai-mediated tech fascist order which everyone else is happy to abet

>>2588610
Now we can spend more time jorking it while the trotskyist newspapers write themselves, you may not like it but this is what true worker emancipation looks like



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Epstein is connected to Israel, this is why Trump is covering it up. He doesn't want to risk the political fallout for Israel when people realize all of Epstein's clients were blackmailed and used as Israeli assets.

"The most concrete link is his relationship with former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak. Epstein and Barak met numerous times between 2013 and 2017, with Barak visiting Epstein’s properties in Florida and New York approximately 30 times, including a 2014 private flight in Florida. Barak received $2.3 million from an Epstein-associated foundation between 2004 and 2006, and Epstein invested $1 million in a limited partnership established by Barak in 2015.

Another connection stems from Epstein’s ties to Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, Robert Maxwell, was a British media mogul alleged to have had links to the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad. Some sources, including former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe, have claimed Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell ran a “honey-trap” operation for Mossad to blackmail influential figures. A lawsuit by a woman identified as Jane Doe 200 alleged Epstein boasted of being a Mossad agent.

Epstein was also associated with the Wexner Foundation, which supports Jewish leadership and has ties to Israel. His financial backer, Leslie Wexner, was a member of the “Mega Group,” a collection of Jewish philanthropists, which some, like former NSA counterspy John Schindler, have speculated was linked to Israeli intelligence operations. Epstein reportedly invested in an Israeli startup, Reporty Homeland Security (later rebranded as Carbyne), connected to Israel’s defense industry, further fueling speculation."
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>>2406671
zionist shill, you are not a communist

>>2407378
extremely good post

>>2537274
It was the bongs that created Israel, we just inherited it.



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A thread for the forgotten continent, so forgotten the thread got wiped.
Discuss anything related to:
>Algeria
>Angola
>Benin
>Botswana
>Burkina Faso
>Burundi
>Cabo Verde
>Cameroon
>Central African Republic (CAR)
>Chad
>Comoros
>Congo, Democratic Republic of the
>Congo, Republic of the
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>>2585297

Ugandan memes aside, my experience is that the title is generally. A large segment of Africans may not like lgbtetc, but it is not at all preoccupation. There are just many other major issues in their lives.

why did nigeria intervene in benin but not in niger during the recent coups?



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