/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2567466
Or is it?

The economic and political systems of Stalinism were discredited, only the social/cultural beliefs survived unscathed.

>>2567466
The ideological vacuum had to be replaced by something, to justify state power, and nationalism was the easiest choice. It can be understood by even the most simple minded.

I see the lizard in your pic is related.

>>2568390
>Dude, IIRC Marx himself wrote that American farmers, despite getting paid more than their European counterparts, remain more competitive and have better profits. Or maybe Engels. And USD was priced high back then as well!
The situation when they are writing is not remotely comparable with post WW2 USA which had global hegemony, come on now. A completely different set of incentives emerged for the US empire after WW2.

>>2565829
why do you ALWAYS piggyback on my conversations. it doesn't matter what thread I'm in. you show up to do "Wrong. you deny blah blah blah line" speech. fuck off dude. you ruin every nuanced conversation i have on here. you are stalking me. you are a fed.

>>2568474
>"undervalued" currency
no such thing. It's not either-either. Some things are cheaper on one market and pricier on another - difference averages in currency exchanges

>>2568477
>US industrial base declined because they outsourced everything for cheap labor.
They didn't, they got outcompeted by native producers of numerous nations who did the same job cheaper, most notable example of such a nation being China. At the time, Americans already had separated corporation HQs from producers, so the ones being outcompeted were producers and not corporations; instead, corporations had replaced one supplier with another, residing overseas.

With the exception of China, I don't know any other country that had received any kind of technology from those corporations, nobody except for China bought factories in USA and Europe and transported them overseas.

>>2568483
Undervalued currency means a currency that isn't allowed to be traded freely on the market, and upon which a downward pressure is exerted by the govt that issues the currency.

>>2568491
No infinite value engines exist in economics, just like no perpetual engines exist in physics. "Undervaluing currency" means there is a way to artificially change value of goods - meaning such a perpetual engine. And we know for a fact that's bullshit, Marx went over examples of such machines in the first chapter of Kapital

>>2568585
Many such cases. Fighting nazism domestically and funding nazis abroad.

>>2567573
>>2567573
They’re both killing themselves in an imperialist conflict that is neither one we can really have an affect on, or one that takes priority over the other global issues and situations we have to deal with. Also they will both face inevitable total devastation with a huge thanks to this conflict, and they’re not exactly a class instinct strong couple of nations either.

So to be honest anon, I don’t really care. They’re a future problem at best at the moment, if even that.

>>2568585
>In 2014
So not right now then?

>>2567840
Belarus is the last 20th style social democratic country in Europe. It maybe not be a socialist country, but it's not a neoliberal one.

ok fine ill do something already

>>2568298

>Mahdick=Blasted

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>>2568120
>disregard for material conditions
>in reality most people are willing to make sacrifices and don't mind hardship if you give them a plan or an idea
the hardship has to come first for most people to even start considering major change, and this doesn't mean that they're "apathetic" at all

>>2568409
<although misconception X exists, in reality Y is true
>why do you say X when Y!?!?
reading comprehension. I refuse to think everything is bait, at least some of you have to be retarded for real

>>2567791
Yemen relies on Iran for weapons which relies economically on China and Russia. That is the bigger picture in the region - the construction cashgrabs in Israel are minor. If China didn't do it, Israel would just develop the capability to do it themselves, much like China itself did with sanctioned tech. It would have increased the economic pressure on Israel, but not enough to bring it to the point of collapse, or degrade its military capability against Iran, AKA it has no effect on the genocide.

I think economic pressure will not achieve an ultimate solution because the US will bail Israel out of any economic troubles anyway, and the US, as the nominally richest nation in the world and global economic hegemon, can do quite a lot of bailing for a tiny state like Israel. so there are two solutions to the Israeli problem:
1. Some sort of political change that removes cucks from power in the regional states like Jordan and the Gulf states so the Arabs actually start opposing Israel(highly unlikely)
2. Build up Iran, Houthi Yemen and Iraq(which Iran has influence over) to the point of being able to defeat Israel militarily, which can presumably happen when a Taiwan/SCS war starts so that NATO forces are stretched thin between Ukraine, Israel and the China theater and can only bring minor forces to support Israel. In my view this is the only viable option.

>>2567959
…what work is the western proletariat doing, internet trends?

new thread >>2568462

>>2568257
DECOLONIZATION INCOMING

>>2568448
For reference:
https://www.somo.nl/economic-sanctions-eu-is-israel-largest-investor/

>>2568106
That's not mentioning the fact that Türkiye pretty much invented drone warfare.

>>2568126
Well, no. That was probably the United States.

>>2567834
>(they manufacture almost everything domestically, including their own cars, steel, textiles, electronics, weapons).
proof of this extraordinary claim?

>>2567834
>While America loves Israel, it's still possible the US might sit out on this one.
Not possible. American support for Israel extends far beyond realpolitik, shared interests or shared ideologies, it is based in religion. A very large portion of the most influential American capitalists and politicians are either Jewish or Judeo-Christian(the type of protestant that probably values Jews more than other Christians) and aggressively Zionist, either for "God's Chosen People" reasons or "Jesus will come back if we help Israel rebuild the temple" reasons. Their support for Israel is irrational and these particular elements of the government will sacrifice literally all of America's other interests to ensure Israel remains. As long as America is still significantly religious and Abrahamic, they will back Israel against any rival.

>>2568443(me)
Remember that the Christian belief system is not grounded in material reality at all, they believe that the only thing that matters is scoring brownie points with God to ensure they get into heaven, that is the number one priority in life for the most ardent believers, and for this specific type of Christian said brownie points are scored by helping the Chosen People hold onto the Promised Land. It is very much a cult and they will act like a cult.

>>2567772
> Since the alleged incident was prior to desegregation
it was in 69

>>2567779
Do you believe his account of the infamous Cornpop stand down? Biden graduated hs in '61.

>>2567782
Oh shit, I just looked up the years desegregation began in the north. In the south it took longer to sink in. They were having segregated proms and other activities well into the '80s.

>>2566968
Searching for "zip ties near me" is insane.

>>2567767
RIP to a bad dude

Verizon is cutting more than 13,000 jobs as it works to ‘reorient’ entire company
For its third quarter of 2025, Verizon posted earnings of $4.95 billion and $33.82 billion in revenue. The carrier reported continued subscriber growth for its prepaid wireless services, but it lost a net 7,000 postpaid connections. News of coming layoffs at Verizon was reported last week by The Wall Street Journal. The outlet says that the 13,000 job cuts mark the largest-ever round of layoffs at the company.
https://apnews.com/article/verizon-layoffs-economy-jobs-1aa299fc28b8e7211188f9b084d1048c

Feds Dismiss Charges Against Woman Shot by Border Patrol Agent in Brighton Park
In a one-page motion filed Thursday morning, assistant U.S. attorneys Ronald DeWald and Aaron Bond said they “respectfully (move) this Court to dismiss the indictment” against Martinez and another man, Anthony Ian Santos Ruiz, who were each charged in October following the shooting at 39th Street and Kedzie. … Prosecutors in court Thursday confirmed the case would be dismissed with prejudice, meaning the criminal charges against Martinez and Ruiz cannot be refiled at a later date.
https://news.wttw.com/2025/11/20/feds-dismiss-charges-against-woman-shot-border-patrol-agent-brighton-park

ICE official struggles to answer questions about Abrego Garcia's potential deportation
When pressed by Abrego Garcia's attorneys about the contents of the sealed declaration regarding the government's communication with Costa Rica, their client's preferred country of removal, Cantu said he did not understand parts of his declaration.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/ice-official-struggles-answer-questions-abrego-garcias-potential/story?id=127714915

Bay Area’s poverty soared, data shows, as California’s top earners saw windfalls
Newly released data found that the San Francisco Bay Area’s poverty rate soared from 12.2% Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Can Canada’s NDP Step Back From the Brink of Electoral Ruin?
In March, Canada’s New Democratic Party (NDP) will elect a new leader. This April, the federal party suffered its worst election showing ever, winning a mere seven seats. Leader Jagmeet Singh promptly resigned. Five candidates have registered in the race to replace him, including current member of parliament (MP) Heather McPherson, activist and filmmaker Avi Lewis, union leader Rob Ashton, social worker and town councilor Tanille Johnston, and Tony McQuail, a farmer and former party candidate. Montreal activist Yves Engler is running but has yet to register with the party. To get a sense of the state of the race to date and where it might be headed, Jacobin writers David Moscrop and Edgardo Sepulveda examine four aspects of the party and the leadership competition. They take up the historical context, how candidates are addressing environmental, economic, and industrial policy, the class and cultural dynamics at play, and the state of party democracy.
https://jacobin.com/2025/11/ndp-canada-election-leader-democracy

Culling The Working Class: Acceleration and the Period of Capitalist Democide - Jeff Shantz
Capitalism has moved into a stage of open mass culling of the working class—starting with those currently deemed unusable (as workers or consumers). This is a rapidly escalating period of democide—state killing of its own populations—for capital. For purposes—requirements—of accumulation. It will increasingly expand that category as fewer and fewer workers and consumers are needed to maintain profitability. Tightened conditions of accumulation mean that the ruling class is not simply okay with working-class people dying off—they have determined it is a necessity that must happen, and as quickly as possible. Automation, robotization, AI, put to new and more expansive uses will ensure this culling of the unusable is an ongoing need of capital. As conditions of accumulation become tighter, more avenues will need to be opened spatially. What has been called accumulation by dispossession, already advancing in cities (street sweeps of unhoused people, encampment evictions, displacement, and gentrification) and the countryside (land grabs, extractives expansion) is switching over to accumulation by democide. And thiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Thanks News Anon

Mamdani pleads directly with NYC-DSA to not back Chi Osse’s run against Hakeem Jeffries
Tascha van Auken, the field director of Mamdani’s campaign who’s influential in the DSA, also argued against endorsing Osse during the Wednesday night confab. She focused her remarks on questioning whether Osse is loyal to the principles of the socialist group, which he only became a dues-paying member of this past summer after Mamdani’s mayoral primary victory. Other DSA members at the meeting argued for backing Osse’s run, including Brooklyn Assemblywoman Emily Gallagher and Gustavo Gordillo, the DSA New York City chapter’s co-chair, according to the sources.
https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/11/19/mamdani-pleads-directly-with-nyc-dsa-to-not-back-chi-osses-run-against-hakeem-jeffries/
https://archive.ph/jlinm

Trump signs bill to compel release of more Epstein documents
The justice department has 30 days to release all files related to Epstein, including the investigation into his death by suicide in a federal prison cell. The legislation permits redacting identifying information of victims, but specifically bars officials from declining to disclose information over concerns about “embarrassment, reputational harm or political sensitivity”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/19/trump-sign-bill-epstein-files

House votes to repeal Senate's $500k perk for seized phone records
The House voted unanimously Wednesday to repeal a provision tucked into the recently passed government funding bill that allows senators to sue the Justice Department for up to $500,000 if their phone records are seized without their knowledge
https://www.axios.com/2025/11/20/house-repeal-senate-500k-seized-phone-records-doj
https://archive.ph/TVoC4

US will soon announce dePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

JIM JUMP chair of the International Brigade Memorial Trust: The struggle against Franco’s legacy continues
“SPANIARDS, Franco has died,” came the announcement 50 years ago on Spanish TV. If there was any truth to the widely held story that Barcelona immediately ran out of cava, the corks would have been popping behind closed doors. Most Spaniards held their breath on November 20 1975, fearful of what might happen next. After nearly four decades of brutal dictatorship, reactionary forces dominated the country’s institutions and the generalisimo himself had boasted that everything was being left “well tied up.” Confounding expectations, however, King Juan Carlos appointed a government that steered Spain towards free elections in 1977, the first since the Spanish Republic. In 1981 he helped face down a botched coup attempt by die-hard army and civil guard units, who briefly seized the Cortes, the Spanish parliament. In the following year the PSOE (Workers Socialist Party of Spain) — the dominant party in the Republic’s Popular Front government — won the general election. Today Juan Carlos, who abdicated in favour of son Filipe in 2014, is again at the centre of controversy. His autobiography praises Franco’s “intelligence and political sense.” But it says nothing in 500 pages about the victims of Franco, nor the scars that the Spanish civil war have left on Spanish society.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/struggle-against-francos-legacy-continues

Bugonia: The latest film from Yorgos Lanthimos—“All that’s been done to us … We’re setting that right again”
Elon Musk was recently awarded a one-trillion-dollar pay package over ten years. “If Musk works a 40-hour work week with two weeks’ vacation, or about 20,000 hours for 10 years, that’s $50 million an hour.” Tesla “production associates” make $23 an hour. And 23 goes into 50 million approximately 2,173,913 times. In Bugonia, Greek filmmaker Yorgos Lanthimos’ latest film, two cousins, beekeeper-warehouse worker Teddy (Jesse Plemons) and Don (Aidan Delbis), kidnap a successful, powerful corporate executive, Michelle Fuller (Emma Stone), in an act of revenge and hold her captive in their basement. They are not looking for ransom but for her to admit that she is part of an alien conspiracy (launched from Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Thanks News Anon

>>2566813
>Mamdani pleads directly with NYC-DSA to not back Chi Osse’s run against Hakeem Jeffries

I was about to say that I was shocked (shocked!) that Mamdani is already selling out to the dems but the article makes it seem much less clear cut. Without knowing more about the situation I can't definitively say he's selling out or not.

Why they're like this?
>Israeli man arrested in Pattaya for allegedly stealing temple donation envelopes from massage shop

singapore to implement spankings for scammers

Fuck China, and Fuck USA seriously.