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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Risk Assessment Edition

>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.

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https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

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>>2595438
>The shooter, according to police, appears to be a fan of Far-Right media figure Nick Fuentes.
>He’d frequently post long diatribes on an anonymous image board where he’d show off his gun collection and threaten to murder everyone from politicians to his neighbors
<“I can’t believe it.” Says one of his neighbors, who asked to remain anonymous.
<“I just thought he was your normal, all American shut in. He’d throw feces at the local movie theater and wave a gun around if he saw someone walking a pitbull, but we thought he was just quirky.”

>>2595449
Lmao

>>2595437
^ see? They can’t help themselves!

>>2595230
we get it lil bro you still got lolbert brainworms


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The debate over whether AI is “ethical” is mired in petit-bourgeois moralism. Technology itself doesn’t create suffering — capitalism does. The real question isn’t whether AI should exist, but how it can be used for human benefit instead of private profit.

The outrage toward AI is highly selective. People claim it “steals,” as if corporations haven’t been extracting labour, culture, and data for decades. They claim AI is destroying the environment — meanwhile, online video streaming accounts for the majority of global internet traffic and emits far more CO₂ than AI use does today. According to The Shift Project, an hour of streaming produces roughly 55 g of CO₂, and a typical Netflix user emits around 17 kg of CO₂ every month. Pornography alone occupies a huge portion of global bandwidth. Yet no one demands the abolition of streaming; our habits and pleasures are completely normalised.

Before attacking AI, remember that streaming culture is part of the spectacle of late capitalism: endless passive entertainment that keeps people distracted while the system churns on. People fixate on AI because it is new and unfamiliar — not because it is the true driver of ecological or social harm.

What is never discussed is the role AI could play outside capitalism. Under a rationally organised, democratically planned socialist economy, AI could become an instrument of genuine human emancipation. AI could eliminate monotonous labour, optimise resource allocation, reduce systemic waste, plan production in real time, expand access to education and culture, and coordinate complex systems on a scale no bureaucracy could ever achieve. Instead of reinforcing exploitation, AI could free people from it — shortening the working day, expanding leisure, and allowing individuals to participate meaningfully in cultural and intellectual life.

In other words: AI is not inherently exploitative. It simply reflects the system into which it is born. Under capitalism, it becomes another tool for profit extraction. Under socialism, it becomes a tool for human development. The question is not whether AI should be used, but who controls it — capital or society.
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>>2593146
>visual processing isn't the same thing as consciousness emerging
What the fuck are you smoking? Who is claiming that AI is conscious?

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>>2593000
>Under a rationally organised, democratically planned socialist economy

Nothing democratically planned will be rational. Speaking of pipe dreams, the old time Marxists used to go on about how communism is all about humans controlling the things made by their own hands, instead of the other way around. At some point people realized that was bullshit and demanded supercomputer AI Gods to do it for us. Enlightenment disproved by its own fruits.

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>AI Will Be Used to Build Socialism
Well everything will eventually be used to build socialism as technology is agnostic wrt politics. But AI will first and foremost be used in the cold war, and if socialism doesn't win out, you'd probably want to blame AI. Either way, I think it's going to get way worse before it gets any better.


First, AI will be a vehicle for consolidation: Once the bubble bursts and 99% of the chaff uses get weeded out, the result will be that the remaining companies, will have achieved monopolies on the production and use of computing hardware and merged with the state.

Second, AI tech is seen as a proxy for silicon tech as a whole: It will continue to play a humongous role in the cold war, akin to aerospace/nautics in the previous cold war, but through the facade of retarded magic content black boxes, while eating huge subsidies and driving resource wars.

And third, AI tech has wild governance implications: Not just for the panopticon of the surveillance state, which will only continue to expand as it is part of the cold war everything-race.
But the previous consolidation and public-private partnership of silicon tech means corporations getting a greater capture of state mechanisms themselves. The Ukrainian model as depicted, where "Digital transformation" means to let tech corporations(often foreign) run the bureaucracy is also going to keep expanding under the guise of convenience.

The thing that corporations do now where they are never responsible of anything because they can claim a Schrodinger's "automated system" did it? Yeah, that's going straight in.
"Predictive" policing? you got it.
24/7 employee surveillance? damn right.
Corporate run judiciaries? Well not really, they just run every part of the bureaucracy and have capture on every institution! totally legal!
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CyberSyn 2.0 baybay

>>2594926
>First, AI will be a vehicle for consolidation: Once the bubble bursts and 99% of the chaff uses get weeded out, the result will be that the remaining companies, will have achieved monopolies on the production and use of computing hardware and merged with the state.
Finally someone who understands how these bubbles work.


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Should proletarians when imprisoned by a racist, capitalist society that dehumanise them organise along prison gang lines?
>The Black Guerrilla Family (BGF) is a revolutionary Black power prison and street gang, founded in 1966 at San Quentin Prison by George Jackson with Marxist/Maoist/Leninist roots, originally aiming for political liberation but evolving into a sophisticated criminal enterprise involved in drug trafficking, racketeering, and violence, operating across the US and known for its strict discipline, political ideology, and conflict with rival gangs like the Aryan Brotherhood.

>>2594865
If you're pardoning BGF you also have to pardon Dead Man Incorporated and the Norteños (United Farm Workers gang)


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Israel remained leading killer of journalists in 2025: RSF
Mexico was the second most dangerous country in the world for journalists, with nine killed in the past year. War-ravaged Ukraine, where three journalists were killed in 2025, and Sudan, where four journalists were killed this year, are other highly dangerous countries for reporters, according to RSF.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/9/israel-the-top-killer-of-journalists-worldwide-once-again-says-rsf-report
https://archive.ph/47oN2

Joint Saudi-Emirate delegation in Aden for talks after STC takeover
Discussions to be held by the ​delegation in Aden ⁠will address ways ⁠to rectify recent unilateral actions, including the withdrawal of any forces brought in from outside the eastern provinces, a ‌source in the presidential office ​told the state news agency SABA.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2025/12/joint-saudi-emirate-delegation-aden-talks-after-stc-takeover

Iran overturns death sentence for Kurdish leftist leader Verisheh Moradi
Verisheh Moradi, a member of the Community of Free Women of Eastern Kurdistan (KJAR) who previously fought against the Islamic State (IS) group in Syria, has been on death row in Iran since November 2024 over her support for the Mahsa Amini protests. The state accused her of "armed rebellion" for backing the protests, which broke out after the death of a Kurdish woman arrested in Tehran for "inappropriate hijab".
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iran-overturns-death-sentence-kurdish-leftist-leader-verisheh-moradi

Germany revokes pledges to grant asylum to Afghans
the pledge is being revoked because Chancellor Friedrich Merz's government in Berlin aims to scrap the resettlement programs "as far as possible." This was agreed by the conservative CDU and CSU parties and Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Lawmakers urge Education Department to add nursing to ‘professional’ programs list amid uproar
The Trump administration’s list of professional programs includes medicine, law and theology but leaves out nursing and some other fields that industry groups had asked to be included. The “professional” label would allow students to borrow larger amounts of federal loans to pursue graduate degrees in those fields.
https://apnews.com/article/nursing-professional-degree-704cbceb9c09c75ca5e2b889bbf322c4

TSA renews push to end collective bargaining agreement for airport security screeners
The agency said Friday the move is based on a September memo from Noem that says TSA screeners “have a primary function of national security” and therefore should not engage in collective bargaining or be represented by a union.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/tsa-renews-push-end-collective-bargaining-agreement-airport-128362718

TSA is giving airline passenger data to ICE for deportation push: NYT
The Transportation Security Administration is giving U.S. immigration officials the names of every airline traveler as part of the Trump administration’s widespread deportation program, The New York Times reported Friday.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/12/ice-deportation-airline-passengers-tsa.html

Hawleys launch dark money group to revive anti-abortion politics
The Hawleys, who started dating when they were Supreme Court clerks, are launching the Love Life Initiative this week. They plan to run pro-family national ad campaigns. "If you look at the reason that most women think they need to have an abortion, most of those reasons are lack of support," Erin Hawley, a senior counsel at Alliance Defending Freedom, said in an interview. She wants the focus to not just be on abortion, but also policies providing broader support for families
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Bolivia quickly returns to the path of neoliberalism
THE recently inaugurated Rodrigo Paz has wasted no time in embarking on his project to neoliberalise the Andean country. According to the president, Paz proposes cutting public spending by almost 30 per cent in 2026, equivalent to four points of GDP. In addition, he has proposed eliminating a series of taxes, especially for the wealthiest. One of these is a special tax on large fortunes, which Paz has promised to eliminate. The special tax is levied on those with fortunes of more than $4 million (less than 1 per cent of the population) in a country where the basic salary is less than $400. The Confederation of Private Entrepreneurs has quickly and publicly welcomed the decision, which is complemented by a series of measures to make foreign investment “more attractive.” The elimination of taxes on gambling businesses has also been announced.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/bolivia-quickly-returns-path-neoliberalism

The Secret Plot to Raise Meat Prices
According to private and federal lawsuits, the country’s biggest meat processors have been using a secretive data company to share sensitive information, enabling them to hike up prices and suppress wages for decades. The revelation comes as meat prices have increased precipitously. Since 1985, the price of ground beef has increased by over 400 percent, far outpacing inflation. Meanwhile, meat-industry workers’ wages have largely stagnated. Despite growing scrutiny and public outcry over algorithmic price-setting of consumer goods and services, critics say meatpackers are settling these collusion lawsuits without admitting guilt or paying substantial penalties, meaning they’re free to keep using the data analytics firm to fix prices and drive down workers’ earnings. “[The meatpackers] win with their settlements, and never once do the packers have to admit guilt,” independent rancher Mike Callicrate told the Lever. “What’s happened is these law firms now have just gone around filing cases, knowing that they can take money out of the packer’s pocket, while the packer retains the ability to take it right out of the producer’s pocket and the consumer’s pocket.” And while President Donald Trump has promised to crack down on price-fixing in agriculture,Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thanks News Anon

Fuck you, bad news anon! You suck!


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On Friday, December 12, 2025, the World Socialist Web Site, the online publication of the International Committee of the Fourth International, will launch Socialism AI, a chatbot that will use the power of amplified human cognition to advance the development of socialist consciousness in the international working class.

Socialism AI will expand and accelerate the education of workers, student youth, progressive intellectuals and artists on the basis of the world scientific outlook of Marxism. It will prepare them for the irrepressible escalation of the international class conflict.

For the ruling class, AI’s role creates new means of intensifying exploitation, displacing labor and increasing profits.

But, paradoxically, AI technology also makes possible an unprecedented expansion of knowledge and social consciousness.

Technology does not lead automatically to the improvement of the human condition. Without politically conscious mass action, guided by scientific Marxist theory, technological advances under capitalism intensify the exploitation of the working class and threaten the destruction of the planet.

Therefore, the problem of bringing into proper alignment the development of technology and the interests of the working class must be solved. The socialist movement must make use of the most advanced tools available for the education and unification of the working class.

That is the significance of Socialism AI, which will gather, clarify and make accessible the theoretical, historical and political experience of more than 150 years of the Marxist movement, above all, the heritage defended by the Fourth International.

Its aim is not to substitute technology for politics, or algorithms for revolutionary leadership. On the contrary, it is to assist the development of consciousness by overcoming the barriers of distance, language, specialization and time. A worker in Detroit, a student in São Paulo, a nurse in Johannesburg, a young intellectual in Mumbai will pose questions about theory, history, economics, philosophy and politics—and receive answers grounded not in the lies of the ruling class but in the scientific method of historical materialism and in the accumulated strategic experience of the international working class.
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>>2594749
>You are attacking a strawman of technology from three years ago. If I ask it to "calculate the logistical efficiency of this supply route," it writes the formula, runs the code, and gives the answer. That is calculation via agency.
It's better, but LLM still spits out that formula before that. Now you could keep going with that, have the LLM punch it into some sort of function generator, have that punching in be handled by something else, so-on so-forth. An LLM used like that is basically scaffolding, so I concede that could be a use case.
>his is pure Idealism, not Materialism. You are demanding the machine possesses a metaphysical "soul"
I make no such allusions. I now have some confidence you have read a few papers so I don't know why you're resorting to this. You must already understand where LLMs mechanically lack in this regard.
"comprehension" is a logical construct.

Honestly your prior point makes a much better refutation of what I said, but you went the "but muh sovls" route.
>A materialist looks at the output: Does it condense 50 pages into 1 accurate page? Yes.
I have not seen this happen yet. Every time I've tried it failed miserably.
>This is a massive skill issue and a self-report.
>If it takes you longer to fix AI code than to write it from scratch, you are incompetent at prompting.
It just fails to "obey" the prompt past like 5 degrees of complexity. Some programs can't be summarized in a tweet. If I know what I want enough that a sufficiently non-ADHD ridden LLM could follow it I'd already know what to write.
>Millions of senior engineers use this to automate boilerplate
catting a txt file and copying from the terminal.
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>>2591923
>technology wouldn't exist if it weren't for imperialism
this is retarded and obviously untrue. Read Rajani Palme Dutt Fascism and Social Revolution Chapter 3. Capitalism, especially in its imperialist phase, deliberately HOLDS BACK the productive forces, regressing from what made it superior to feudalism in the first place. Without capitalism and imperialism, the productive forces would be unleashed, and with economic planning, there would be no crises of overproduction.

>>2591944
>Only Congolese should have access to anything involving coltan

Only Native Americans should have maize

Only Mediterraneans should have olives

Only people near water should have fish

Nobody should ever trade again

This is a RETARDED idea and the Chinese actively prove why

>>2594561
>all technologies regardless of context are automatically good
Eat shit and die.

>>2595100
AI or more precisely machine learning and all its applications are a new better set of tools or in Marxist terminology productive technology. This is highly relevant in the context of Marxism as this affects class relations with means of production. But then again we have plenty of retards like you here who dislike AI because its edgy or contrarian and "AI is le slop" like you kids say.


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ANTI-AI BROOS??! I thought AI is le bad???! this is pretty based and will help spread class conciousness!

BODY IS TOO SHORT OR CAN'T BE EMPTY OR SOMETHING.
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Sorry China, but the only good politician is Trotsky

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>Now u must pay $5
Fuck off

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What's the most hilarious about this is that they've basically made a digital parrot THE primary representative of their org and the sole thing they're known for by the majority of socialists going forward.

It will give answers that will go against what they actually believe, and they'll constantly have to babysit it until the prompt full of corrections–that will only sometimes be heeded in full–gets too long to be worth it.

The thing stands were there would ought to have been an FAQ page or CoolMathGames style explorable information trove if it was truly meant to "advance socialist consciousness globally" like they claim on the tin. Now we know it's just a cash grab (>>2594336), so of course they wouldn't have done something so useful. What an excellent indictment of AI as being the new crypto by example.

>>2594455
>The thing stands were there would ought to have been an FAQ page or CoolMathGames style explorable information trove if it was truly meant to "advance socialist consciousness globally" like they claim on the tin.
I don't think it's a bad project, but I agree using a big FAQ as the basis would also work, and it would be more reliable. It's like LLM-hype people have developed amnesia about these other concepts for accessing information.

For example, take a look at this massive thing:
https://www.anarchistfaq.org/afaq/index.html
Click on any of the sections with label A to J to see how many questions are in just one of these. The FAQ has a tree structure with three levels.

Picture this: All that is needed to make the Anarchist FAQ snappy is a question-search bar that shows matches from the expanded list of questions as you type. In addition to the questions from the question tree it could also use an index of all sentences in the running text that end with a question mark (but de-emphasizing these matches visually).

And under the question matches (if any) there could be a section with other text matches (if any) from the FAQ. And under that there could be a section with text matches from anarchist works in the public domain: Proudhon, Kropotkin, Bakunin, Goldman etc.

Asking you all: Would you prefer this oldschool thing or an anarchism-explainer LLM?


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I reread Vineland and rewatched One battle for this. Modern /tv/ is too stupid for this, /film/ and /lit/ would find it boring or wouldn't get the discussion. You'll probably get more mileage here than any of them would have because this isn't so much about the plot structure or anything.
Although yes, One Battle After Another is the "blockbusterization" of the original novel. In the original Zoyd (Bob) is a side character to Prairie (Willa) and is actually third "protag" to Frensei(Perfidia) and Brock Vond(Lockjaw) mostly because he also doesn't look for her, he goes off screen because he is the one who sends away Prairie to go to DL(Deandra) from the start to split up so Vond can't get them together. Also because the book is 50% flashbacks, and that's probably because this is Pynchons attempt to put various short stories together into an over arching plot, but it means most of the book isn't action heavy. In fact any and all action is sort of kept to a flashbacks and single shot or hand to hand 1 on 1 combat.
This is because PTA doesn't understand the left or what Vineland had to say about it. Thanatoids are a big aspect of the original book. Thanatoids are debatable but are ultimately just Pynchons way of describing the average person becoming a treatlerite in first world nations due to immediate comfort and entertainment being granted to them, especially in the 80s, of which ones like Weed Atman, a leader of the 2nd major left wing org in the book, who was thought dead, is a part of. The entire thing is a massive critique on how quickly pacified the entire American left is, and PTA completely flushes it down the toilet for quick scenes of Mexicans fighting riot police.
In the actual book, whenever the army and cops get involved, the thanatoids don't do shit. DL (Deandra) and Takeshi (Sergio or at least close as possible to them in the book) take back Prairie with them to check out the situation at the same time the rest of her family go back to Vineland, and they note how scared everyone is and none of them do shit.
This is because the entire book this is just part of life too to a lesser measure, Americans are absolutely fine with fascist like regimes and PMCs strolling their streets as long as it doesn't affect them, it's only when Brock Vond starts to push it a little too hard that they get upset enough to be scared. Not act, just get scared.
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Holy shit that is long. That is extremely long and I didn't even mention how Pynchon channels Reich to gather reasoning for how someone becomes so fascist and discriminatory.
Read the end if you want to know what it's about and cannot be half assed to read a 400 page fiction novel and rewatch a 3 hr movie again.

>Vond and the thanatoids are either birthed or controlled by the tube, which is a metaphor for the modern worlds consumerist spectacle
Interesting.
I got the gut sense while watching the film that there was a story beat being missed about how the left became pacified. Good effort post.

>>2594444
Thanks and checked.
In the book there isn't some sort of big scene where Vond/Lockjaw take down everyone after Frensei/Perfidia snitches, everyone gradually has their own reasons for going underground and on the run, but it's pretty clear they've become pacified and worried about hiding out and keeping their families safe, leaving those who still kept up some sort of fight on their own until eventually they just sort of gave up and sat in front of tv all day like Atman and the thanatoids. Zoyd, Frensei, and DL are all mixed up with different groups and the book makes a point of this but they all end up pacified by the 80s anyway for a reason. That's why it's kind of counter intuitive to have riot scenes going on in One Battle as opposed to unorganized submission from the entire county as Vond and the military and other security forces flip the place upside down.


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Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

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>>2589611
shes a lib that is good on Palestine so is Corbyn

>>2590036
Fair enough.
A great situationist stunt would be to kidnap them and chuck them in the channel.

Want to do something productive? Go to the Birmingham Bin Strike picket on the 30th of Jan.

https://actionnetwork.org/events/join-the-brum-bin-strike-megapicket-iii-30-january-2026

>>2590676
we're all in here

>>2588100
ok Christopher Htchens


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PARTIES:
>https://communist-party.ca/
>https://cpcml.ca/
>https://www.marxist.ca/
Fuck flood detection
>https://ncpc-npcc.ca/
>https://www.democraticsocialists.ca/
>https://iww.ca/
>https://socialistaction.ca/

NEWS:
>https://pvonline.ca/
>https://springmag.ca/
>https://canadiandimension.com/
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BALD MAN BARRED FROM NDP RACE
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/yves-engler-barred-from-running-for-ndp-leadership/
https://x.com/EnglerYves/status/1998594829719060797

>>2591158
https://yvesengler.com/2025/12/09/ndp-takes-orwellian-world-view-to-deny-my-candidacy/

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Is Carney a political genius? He just needs another MP to become majority

>>2593523
he's a "progressive conservative" leader running in the liberal party, and he more favorable then Poilievre so far

>>2593523
Poilievre is just a colossal retard who blew the easiest election win in history by being too much of a Yankee blowing cuck.


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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

📺 Glowie News 📺
(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))
• CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
• MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
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>>2594289
>We’re reaching the point of total illegitimacy of the state now
Dark Brandon gonna come back soon. Trust the plan.

make china win the world cup next year, icing on the cake

44 years later and we're still obsessed with the soviets. Brezhnevs ghost haunts this country.

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Why are famous chefs fighting PFAS bans?
<The answer, in retrospect, is obvious—and it’s part of a larger campaign to stop bans on Teflon cookware nationwide.

https://heated.world/p/why-are-famous-chefs-fighting-pfas?

God, I hate this fucking country.


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