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 No.522491[Reply]

Is it fair to say world war II didn't end with the defeat of fascism, but simply internationalized fascism? Is it fair to say America is returning back to the pre-1990s dictatorship model for the world now that the neoliberal order has failed so fucking badly? Could we see anything as bad as what we saw under Ronnie Raygun (pic related)?
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 No.553375

>>547864
>dude everything is le fascism!!1
no. in fact, germany/italy have more in common with the fucking USSR under the NEP than with liberals who do corporate welfare

 No.553484

>>522491
The United States of America is literally worse than Nazi Germany.

 No.553491

>>522491
The USA just absorbed all of the fascist elements after ww2

They're all there
West Germany (a State literally built by USA) was riddled with nazis

<For over two decades after the end of World War II, almost 100 members of the Nazi party held high-ranking positions in the West German Justice Ministry, reports a recently released government document.

<90 of the 170 leading judges and lawyers in the West German Justice Ministry from 1949 to 1973 were former members of the Nazi Party.
<34 of them were former Sturmabteilung (SA). The SA was the Nazi paramilitary group who assisted Hitler in his rise to power and were part of Kristallnacht, the violent night that killed 91 Jews.
<Former Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger, who commissioned the study, commented on the “large continuity.”
<In 1957, the ministry’s senior officials were 77% former Nazis. Christoph Safferling, the coauthor of the report, said that they hadn’t expected the figure to be so high.
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/west-german-government-full-ex-nazis-world-war-ii.html

Reinhard Gehlen who was head of the Gestapo, the CIA ratlined hims out, gets him out of nazi uniform and gets him back to work training "anticommunist" east europeans (read literal nazis, fascists and nazi collaborators ")

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>>522491
>Is it fair to say world war II didn't end with the defeat of fascism, but simply internationalized fascism

WWII started with british and american funding of german fascism with the explicit intent of eradicating ethnic slavs and seizing the oil fields of Baku, which was at the time the majority of global oil production. They were always fascist and Africa was the main front of WWII. The reason the US entered the war was because on the same day as pearl harbor Japan seized Singapore and cut the British off from their supply lines in the pacific.

https://historicly.substack.com/p/there-and-baku-again-with-mammad

 No.553892

>>553888
>Senior U.S. commanders remained strongly opposed to the landings and after the western Allied Combined Chiefs of Staff (CCS) met in London on 30 July 1942, General George Marshall and Admiral Ernest King declined to approve the plan. Marshall and other U.S. generals advocated the invasion of northern Europe later that year, which the British rejected.[10][11] After Prime Minister Winston Churchill pressed for a landing in French North Africa in 1942, Marshall suggested instead to President Franklin D. Roosevelt that the U.S. abandon the Germany first strategy and take the offensive in the Pacific. Roosevelt said it would do nothing to help the Soviet Union.[12] With Marshall unable to persuade the British to change their minds,[13] President Roosevelt gave a direct order that Torch was to have precedence over other operations and was to take place at the earliest possible date, one of only two direct orders he gave to military commanders during the war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Torch#Strategic_debate_among_the_Allies



 No.553876[Reply]

Finally a real vaccine that benefits humanity.


 No.213976[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Welp edition
Live Updates: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Global Tracker: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
The mod team asks you to please limit all covid discourse outside the mainstream media (vaccine skepticism, mask non-compliance, etc..) to this thread
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 No.553791

>>553703
wsws is trash

 No.553807

>>553156
The proof is in the global pudding. Most of the pants-shitting over COVID comes from those least affected by it, in this case some internet addicted "anarcho-primitivist" who would probably die in a month or two if you actually faced a shortage crisis that forced you or your family to become more self-reliant. But COVID is the only crisis that affects you, whereas in other countries like India COVID merely adds to the current misery.

COVID only made me sympathize more with the third world while hating Third Worldists even more. Most of the anti-vaxxers in the West are Zero Hedge-tier individualist superiority complex faggots who ironically cannot survive without the constant plundering of the non-Western countries for labor and resources.

 No.553809

>>553807 (you)
To add, COVID is the one crisis of the past 20 years that has been truly global in nature. Collective Western society has revealed itself to be the global emperor without any clothes on. The banality and utter uselessness of the anti-vaxxers is laid bare against the struggles of the global proletariat for all to see.

 No.553875

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Not that interested about the subject other than national security about actual biological weapons. It reeks of low autism score disinformation.



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 No.541571[Reply]

What will be the next happenings? Place your predictions.

Hard Mode: No USA, no China

Also talk about known upcoming events such as elections, strikes, protests and other junk. The Chilean election is coming up in six weeks (21 November 2021) so that might be fun.
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 No.549408

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Something will happend in the Dubai World's Cup.

 No.549417

Britain will fall into a dictatorship to ensure order as it’s economy goes to shit.
Civil war between UE liberals and british nationalists incoming.
The UK dissolves, only Wales isthe only one still on the Union alongside England. North Ireland becomes independent for about 2 years, have referendum and join Ireland. Scotland declares independence and joins the EU. Spain will gain back gibraltar and the falklands will be either annexed by Argentina or become independent.
The UK is no more, the USA becomes the main english country (it already is, but the UK is by prestige the “leader”).
Canada, Australia and all the other countries inside of the commowealth abandon it.

 No.550435

>>548529
Why is chart so horny for 2040-2050?
Is this a tiktok meme I missed?

Or do they predict the end of latex condoms together with the end of petroleum?

 No.553794

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>>541584
This

>>541571
>The Chilean election is coming up in six weeks
Is the handsome Communist Party guy from Palestine gonna run for president?

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>>541608
>not sure how radicalized the leftists are.

we have few "real comrades", the rest are liberal social democrats, but we have a considerable number of radical leftists, nothing crazy, but we have a considerable number.

Bolsonaro's popular support is pretty low right now, and tends to get worse.



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 No.540657[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What if I'm an ultra urbanite cosmopolitan? I don't want to eliminate the distinction between country and town, I want ultraurban ultratechnological cyberpunk version of socialism.

I like cities. I like steel, glass, concrete, and towering buildings. I think rural towns and suburbs are sprawl and are a waste of space and its better to have urban density with walkable neighborhoods and public transit, mainly subways/rail. Let the rural areas rewild, and bulldoze the suburbs, let everyone live in a modernized version of gommieblocks but as humane, green, and aesthetically designed as possible. High speed rail can connect various cities and replace most domestic air travel.

Cities have interesting life. The mass nature of population in cities gives anonymity, and therefore freedom, a concept most channers are familiar with. Small towns breed small minds, cities are where the weird kids can go and be accepted. Cities have places young people can congregate, museums, opera halls, sports venues, orchestras, more interesting work. The great lie is that cities atomize people. Wrong - Cities humanize, rural areas atomize.

Shitting on cities is burger propaganda made by Thomas Jeffreson a slaveholder rapist centuries ago, even though he had no problem living in Paris for years, simply because he thought urban life was decadent and therefore detracted from "republican virtue". I'd rather have this than some primitivist bullshit where we have to give up modern conveniences and go to the country and farm the land or some bullshit.

My ancestors had to cut down sugarcane for rich guys for like 16 hours a day, they didn't go through that BS just so I could do the literal exact same thing voluntarily because some retarded teenage polpot larper probably living in the global north where the temperature never goes above 24, decided people would be better off farming in the hot sun and air condition is a sin. (and thats before global warming makes even more of the planet ungodly hot)

I don't give a fuck if you call it neoliberal, or whatever cope you want. The idea of back to the country is reactionary and I'd rather be dead than live out in the middle of nowhere with some hinterlands savages who would probably take a shit on my lawn for not being in their religion or believing in their weird superstitions.

Ultraurbanism is the future and the wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.553558

>>553556
>that's based on money calculation, that doesn't account for externalities. For example the resource and energy contained in a commodity consumed in a western city, is counted in a industrial zone in China and that skews the results.

And that doesn't apply to ruralites?

 No.553570

>>553545
rural areas are breeding grounds of religious fundamentalism, ethnic provincialism and muh individualistic mountaineer larping. cities are where proletariat come from theres a reason Marx concentrated on the urban proletariat and not rural peasantry you dumbass. The opposite of what you said needs to happen, we need to force all ruraloids into the cities.

 No.553698

>>553545
>Cities are inherently capitalist
<What is cause and effect

 No.553723

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>>553558
>And that doesn't apply to ruralites?
Oh right i forgot we got overrun with people that have brain worms, who think there is a war between the village and the city, and everybody has to pick a side. It's all so very tiresome.
Look over the edge of your plate, and try to imagine that there are more options for building human habitats than what currently exists. We can do better, than cities, more efficient, with better quality of life for more people.

 No.553829

>>553556
I have experience with rural living and living in one of the largest cities on Earth. I also have contacts in government. I also know people who work in water treatment plants, in Transportation administration, and also owners of the largest private-public bus company of the area.
Electricity needs to be privately funded and is a huge issue in rural areas because the number of people impacted per labor invested is low.
Same with plumbing, transportation, Healthcare (clinics etc), telephone, radio towers, high speed internet, water treatment (both sewage and drinking tap water), trash recollection (it usually gets burnt), roads, education centers, and the list goes on and on and on. I don't have hard data, but it's trivial to see how much labor is needed to serve a house in the middle of nowehere than to serve a single apartment in a 10 storey apartment building, with ~60 apartments, in the middle of a city with millions of inhabitants. If labor costs were the same, there would be fiber optic cable access in rural areas, when right now you're lucky if you can get 4g radio bands.



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 No.553477[Reply]

I’m not sure how they did it but technically that city is the most populated on the planet with only the greater Tokyo Bay Area being a rival, I’ve heard stories of civilians that wake up as early as 4am to get to work if it means avoiding traffic or the entire city being divided into 16 different smaller states each run by different mayors whose religious and ethnic backgrounds can vary wildly. The population of that place used to be 17 million but I’m not sure wtf happened because it exploded to 24 in a space of only around 1.1 thousand km meaning the population density of that city is over 2 times larger than New York with 3 times the population, this might be one of the only cities on the planet besides Tokyo to ever reach this late stage in development and that brings me the question, as this city grows what type of more horrors will humanity discover about the human condition as mega cities grow larger and more dense. At what point can cities grow so large that the citizens in it can be regarded as particles flowing through a network of a larger industrial complex???

 No.553498

The problem isnt MUH BIG CITIES REEEE the problem is the way capitalism forms city planning. You could build this dense and have Soviet style microdistricts and people would live more communal than in any small town, with more nature and better services and offerings.

 No.553772

>>553498
THIS TBH
idolising the countryside is reactionary

 No.553816

>>553498
towns and villages are as bad if not worse as megacities

 No.553819

>>553816
…why? The planning is what matters, not retarded bullshit generationalizations.

 No.553824

>>553819
your thinking the problems with urbanization or any human settlement come from planning and not just cities existing in general like air pollution, junkies, high prices, car crashes etc



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 No.549978[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

WTF Henry Kissinger is anti-imperialist for China now, we must support one struggle!
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 No.553705

>>553674
>Aggression from USSR
Completely made up, including agent provocateurs and false flags, so Mao can distract from his autistic grasp at economics

 No.553748

>>553705
The Soviets literally had troops and artillery aimed at China, ready to crush it like they did to Hungary. The sino-Soviet split was the fault of the Soviets.

 No.553771

>>553748
Fairytale

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 No.553810

>>553748
>The Soviets literally had troops and artillery aimed at China
And China didn't have any troops stationed on the border?
>ready to crush it like they did to Hungary
Maybe they should have.



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 No.550722[Reply]

When we achieve revolution and have the power how will we deal with gaming? The negative impact this has had on society that it is exposed to is astronomical.

What propositions do you have to put forth?
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 No.553110

>>553063

oh also

>e-sports and DLC


DLC is all the same i mean modders literally do all of this for free
and e-sports i lowkey think they could still be a thing but like, action games should probably adapt into like actual fucking touching grass and such
i gotta admit that when Nintendo Labo came out i did got a bit excited even if i can't afford a fucking switch
but aside from the fact that it's literally fucking cardboard for sale
the idea of a game that works with a "joystick" made by yourself is still pretty exciting and not being because of the consooming nature of it i do think it was a step on the right direction (concept wise at least it's still 60 USD cardboard)

 No.553502

>>550982
i'm on your side but why do ppl like you always have to take the bait and then literally seethe to the point of posting 5 reacion media

 No.553505

All entertainment will be banned.
It will look a lot like buddhist communes

 No.553624

>>552204
I completely agree. People should stop trying to impose their own morality and stop being such moralfags. The workers should have the freedom to enjoy whatever reasonable entertainment they want in a socialist society.

And people should really stop thinking that socialism is austerity. it's about freeing the means of production so that people can be free to do make their lives better.

 No.553767

>>553624
Liberal.



 No.326202[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Please come back Rusanon Comrades! Save us from the polyp and lolbert raids.

Я вас категорически приветствую.

- A westoid who misses you.
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 No.548541

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Ну Чё пацаны, Гобурина?
>>>/anime/10870

 No.548926

>>547129
it's ironic that ancoms LARP alongside them and Belarus' CIA "protests" vid related

 No.553454

Рудой недавно выкатил свою политическую программу
https://youtu.be/B1WsIIoNV6Y
Что думаете?

 No.553541

>>553454
Ну, я не против

 No.553732

>>553454
Вроде б правельно говорит но как то слабо ои не конкретно в отношение ситуаций сейчяс в РФ



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 No.374637[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

5th Edition: Real succdem hour edition

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Elections, open orgs, Myanmar breaking apart or just random shit. There’r still dozens of us… hopefully!

Matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/!YeYeuZuLSYkegWssey:matrix.org?via=matrix.org

Last threads:
http://archive.is/0NhJH
http://archive.is/nDq1K
https://archive.vn/cxwty
https://archive.is/ayshz
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 No.545309

>>542406
Nah, they’re just bribing people so that they’ll use the Quran under Sunni with all the patriarchal bullshit along with it. Before that the Bani Chams follows a modified version of Islam with matrilineal community.

 No.545397

>Indonesia’s Rupiah Could Become Asia’s Best-Performing Currency in 2021
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-11/rupiah-set-to-outperform-asian-peers-as-trade-surplus-soars
hell yeah

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>>541861
>ywn live in a SEA-SA socialist hegemony versus the capitalist North
>ywn read all about the dumb sectarianism between the parties about their form of socialism
Someday we will have our own spotlight.

>>545397
STONKS an Indonesian once told me that the economy is recession proof because it is in a state of recession.

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 No.553686

>>553100
I doubt they were expecting to go anywhere. Sucks that ASEAN can't do much.



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