/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

ancient chinese philosophies like confucianism and taoism had virtually nothing in common with marxism or any modern political/economic ideology and this comparison is apples and oranges, these are the philosophies of a dynastic/feudal society where the class system and the government and the supremacy of rulers were unquestionable facts of life, common people did not discuss such matters and wouldn't even know how to, it wasn't their place to concern themselves with political affairs, their place was to work very hard and provide for their families and serve their lords and rulers and obey the law. the ruling class lived on entirely different planes of reality, higher and higher all the way up to the emperor who resided in heaven - they didn't see the hierarchy as some arbitrary human construct, they saw it as the fundamental laws of nature. we have a tendency to project our modern way of thinking onto ancient societies and sort of operate under the assumption that it was only the material conditions that were different back then, but it wasn't just the technologies and the social structures that were radically different, human thought itself was also radically different, people had a completely different conception of the world and their place in the world that is quite alien to us as modern day humans born 2,500 years later.

>>2920622
>rails on and on about "western marxists"
>gives no names or orgs
Bro is just as crazy as the reactionaries that see red everywhere.

>>2920622
>When the time comes to look at Marxism in Western politics, however, the influence of Christianity in the construction of the symbolic, subjective and theoretical universe of this Marxism is rarely taken into account.
could it be that in >the west marxist by rule of thumb simply aren't european?
>>2920634
it is in china (and korea) from which it spread onto neighbouring countries

>>2921959
that's not theory thoughbeit

>>2921812
That agreement fell apart in the same year

>>2921959
>it's not the people it's the government
Omg ho chi minh was a lib???

ho chi minh was president of north vietnam and had very little to do with revolutionary politics of south vietnam until much later after the us invasion of south vietnam. the national liberation front of south vietnam, referred to as the "viet cong" (vietnamese communist) by us propaganda, was not a communist party covertly created by a north vietnamese government conspiracy as described by the common pro-western narrative, it was a completely indigenous independent nationalist coalition that came together long before the us invasion and was comprised of people of many different ideological persuasions, the vast majority being apolitical and uneducated agrarian peasants, supplemented by a rearguard minority of communists, social democrats, bourgeois liberals, buddhists, ethnic minorities, etc. and all of these groups had banded together and formed a solidarity movement based on their mutual opposition to western imperialism and desire for south vietnam to be an independent nation that was not ruled by any foreign power, neither the western imperalists nor the north vietnamese communists. their first and only real priority was just to overthrow the us-backed puppet dictatorship of ngo dinh diem (then later the us-backed military junta which replaced him) and establish south vietnam as an independent nation, all the details as to how the new regime would be structured and what kind of government it would be were TBD and would discussed at a later time if and when their efforts to gain independence were successful. of course, they were not successful and the us invaded and destroyed the entire country and killed 3 million people, most of whom were innocent helpless civilians, in what is probably the most brutal and egregious displays of western global supremacy since the nazi invasion of eastern europe. the united states began conducting bombing campaigns from within south vietnam on military installations just beyond the north vietnamese border (operation rolling thunder) so as to draw north vietnam into the conflict and compel them to lend their support to the south vietnamese NLF forces, engineering a retroactive pretext they needed to justify the us invasion by saying that the NLF movement was a north vietnamese communist conspiracy from the very beginning and that the us invasion was an effort to save south vietnam from being taken over by communist north vietnam. but in reality, the us never conducted or even planned any real invasion of north vietnam nPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

i got you from taiwan city and hong kong
i can smoke a bong and i can do it all night long
and don't mistake me for a viet cong
i can get you and tackle you and take you
never see me when i get you and bake you
rope you up and put you in a bamboo cage
and make you feel all my rage
poke you with a little stick till you page your buddies to come napalm me
god damn that shit burned blew away my whole city
ho chi minh shoot a load on your chin
god damn thats a sin goy-ga-goodbye
and if you wanna come on in
you can walk into my world where the yellow shit begins HAAAI YA
can't be tamed
i got shit to control your brain and it's called
egg foo yung and lo mein

>>2922653
Social democracy is praxis?

>>2922714
The US still taxes their illegals.

So since we’ve pulled out of Iraq, how long til the ISIS resurgence we think? Obviously we were doing nothing good but we seem to have a habit of leaving power vacuums wherever we go.

>>2920957
obungus won at life tbh

fell out of the right CIA pussy and is now cynically saying this shit for easy checks (that or to stay in the good graces of the dem elite so he doesn't get got)

>>2924063
wouldn't Iran's people on the inside keep those fuckers down?

>>2915253 Holy incredibly based, we need every leftist to see this. Get a job, get money, contribute to the class struggle and use what you can to help us get 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% closer to ending it. Because when you have money and can use it for that, at least it's better than the world getting 0.000000000000000000000000% better.

>>2922207 To be fair, many young people do smoke too much weed and some of ye need to cut back a little because every-day-stoners are insufferable to talk to when high and sometimes even when sober.

>>2922211
True but besides the point. I quit cold turkey when I hit 29 and never went back.

>>2922207

the couple who are running this "intentional community" are older than i am, and way way wealthier than i will ever be. the real story most likely is that they irresponsibly bought a multi-million dollar house that they could not afford and they went upside down on the mortgage and decided to try to weasel out of it by becoming glorified misclassified landlords who enjoy all of the benefits of being landlords while evading most of the regulations by claiming to be a co-op. and of course, a quick google search reveals that the house is still privately owned and the married couple are the only names on the deed and it's not a cooperative entity at all as they claim to be, the other "community members" are tenants and they own nothing and if the owners decide to raise the rent or throw them out or sell the place they probably have very little recourse because of what a convoluted legal clusterfuck it would be for them to try to do anything about it and probably not worth any lawyer's time.

i know that capitalism and finances and legal matters are boring old boomer stuff and totally lame, but leftists would really do well to educate themselves on these kinds of things because, the real ugly unspoken truth about america is that the corruption is fucking everywhere, it's not just the GOP politicians or wall street or the techbro billionaires who are crooks. a huge segment of the middle-class american population, regardless of political persuasion or how innocent they may seem on the surface, are actually dirty slimy greasy people doing all kinds of shady shit - phony housing co-ops, quack therapists and self-help gurus, fraudulent small business owners, crooked small-time landlords, rampant elder abuse and estate fraud, parents embezzling from their children, children embezzling from their parents, seniors selling their prescription opioids to their teenage grandkids, enormous amounts of tax fraud that goes unnoticed simply because nobody has bothered to do an audit, etc. our whole society is filthy from top to bottom and the sooner you come to grips with it the better. you don't empower yourself or right any of the world's wrongs by being a naive youthful idealist, you do it by being a crusty, cynical, miserable son of a bitch who trusts no one.

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>>2922400
some say batina come from heaven

>>2922422
heaven is batina

>>2922373
>imho alot of the time the problem self corrects cuz well adjusted people will eventually get sick and tired of them
You'd think so, but one way in which this can (and imo has) been disruptive to the left is that it's a constant wrench in the gears of any socialist intelligentsia. Obviously ordinary workers aren't going to bother with this nonsense, but the movement will still need an intellectual wing which will most likely be drawn from the educated middle strata. Unfortunately those people are the most likely to actually take this sort of nonsense seriously, and the most likely to allow it to become a real obstacle to organizing or theoretical clarity. That in turn prevents the integration of an intellectual vanguard with its natural proletatian base.

>>2922363 (OP)

it's just nonsense, drivel, like 99% of the rest of what comes out of people's brains. there is no "stamping this out" it's just everyday lowest common denominator human mediocrity that exists absolutely everywhere. sit at a table in a coffee shop by yourself for a while and actually listen to the conversations of people at other tables and you'll hear all kinds of insipid stupid crap. one time i overheard a guy say that trump was "just making a big skeptical" and my coffee almost shot out my nose.

>>2847216
Being against nukes is cringe and libtarded. Through nukes we shal achieve communism.

>>2919580
Honestly, castrate the bastard.

prove this wrong

ACLU demands immediate withdrawal of PRNG troops from Washington=
More than 150 members of the Puerto Rico National Guard continue patrolling neighborhoods in Washington, D.C., a deployment the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Puerto Rico denounced this week as unjustified and politically motivated.
https://www.sanjuandailystar.com/post/aclu-demands-immediate-withdrawal-of-prng-troops-from-washington

AI giants, unions join forces for data center fight
The new group, the American Infrastructure Alliance, wants to partner with state and local officials to create standards and guardrails for data centers in 2027. In return, the coalition hopes to head off moratoriums on new construction. The group is planning initial campaigns in Texas, Georgia, Ohio, Iowa, Pennsylvania, Indiana and South Carolina. The alliance is backed by Blackstone, OpenAI, QTS and SoftBank Group, along with key unions, including the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW).
https://www.axios.com/2026/09/28/ai-industry-unions-data-centers
https://archive.ph/abFeB

Top FBI official Andrew Bailey, who was once widely seen as Patel successor, resigns
From the outset, Bailey's relationship with Patel was troubled. Initially, Bailey was not invited to meetings, according to two sources familiar with their dynamic, with one adding that Patel instructed staff to refer to him as director, to Bongino as deputy director and Bailey as co-deputy director.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/top-fbi-official-andrew-bailey-resigns/

Education Department formally rescinds Title IX protections for LGBTQ students
The Education Department announced Monday it has formally rescinded the Biden-era Title IX interpretation that gave sex-based discrimination protections to students on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity.
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Thank you based news anon

Palestinian communists seek broad electoral alliance to challenge Fatah-Hamas polarization
The Palestinian People’s Party (PPP) is stepping up preparations for the November 28 legislative elections, working to forge a broad left-wing, democratic and social alliance that could emerge as a third political pole beyond the longstanding Fatah-Hamas polarization. PPP General Secretary Bassam al-Salhi said the party does not regard the elections simply as a contest for parliamentary seats, but as an opportunity to rebuild Palestinian political institutions and restore popular participation. Al-Salhi argued that the vote must go ahead, its results must be respected and the process should ultimately produce “one government and one Legislative Council,” overcoming the existence of parallel political structures.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/09/palestinian-communists-seek-broad-electoral-alliance-to-challenge-fatah-hamas-polarization.html

Democratic Party Consultants Surround Troy Jackson with Pro-Israel Donors
The Troy Jackson campaign in Maine may have found a new way to measure just how far Democratic Party consultants are able to drag a candidate away from his grassroots supporters. This week, as Jackson ventured into the Facebook group set up for his volunteers, he was facing a legion of Maine supporters expressing a deep sense of betrayal, following an exposé by Rebecca Traister in New York Magazine, which had laid out in precise detail how a squadron of mostly out-of-state political consultants had done as much as possible to drain the life from Jackson and his campaign. In the Facebook group, Jackson’s defense of his campaign, and his attack on the reporting, was considered so condescending that supporters concluded there was no way that Jackson himself was running the account—and promptly kicked Jackson out of his own Facebook group, with less than six weeks until election day. Jackson, it turned out, was indeed still manning his own Facebook account, and he has since been allowed back in. But the damage his consultant-run campaign has done to his relationship with Maine voters will take more than a restored account to repair. Interviews with sources in Jackson’s orbit, and a review of campaign doPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2921860
It's shorter in Chinese

chairman mao is so smart

>>2921995
We should all be adding "this position is correct" to the end of our posts. This position is correct

>>2921995
>>2922144
That's an excerpt for when he was reviewing a soviet textbook
"This is correct" refers to the quoted passage mao is referring to

Waiter!

I kinda understand that russians and completely mind broken by this war. Such a waste of life for nothing.

Ivan, take it easy. Go home.

>>2921542
You’re doing x because you’re doing x

>>2921521
>bordiga said hitler was an authentic revolutioanry
He didn't tho

i already know this and have kind of always known it, if not consciously then subconsciously. but what george carlin got wrong is that it's not a big club, it's a very small and very exclusive club that gets smaller and more exclusive every day. and it's not the only club either; in addition to the elite club of people at the top who have everything, there is a second diametrically-opposite club of people at the bottom who have almost nothing, and that club is big and inclusive and gets bigger and more inclusive with each passing day. and what i'm getting at is not some cliche idealistic pipe dream about a future revolution where the poor masses overthrow the wealthy elite, it's more like a reframing of the narrative, re-evaluating our highly-indoctrinated perceptions of who and what we really are, understanding that the power and wealth and prestige of the elite is not real, it is an elaborate facade, a smoke-and-mirrors parlor trick that requires tremendous and continuous effort and resources to maintain. this idea that the elite are somehow outside of everything, outside of reality, outside of the laws of nature, is a fantasy which ultimately no amount of money or power can ever permanently reify. and likewise the innate weakness and helplessness and bondage of the common masses is also an elaborate fiction, the common man is not weak or stupid or servile, he is simply an occasional victim of temporary circumstance and in the grand scheme of things he is remarkably resilient to every manner of suffering and hardship and calamity. the meek will not someday inherit the earth and they don't need to, because they are the earth, they are reality, always have been and always will be.

the elite are the ones who live in a glass house and it is only a matter of time before something they failed to account for causes the foundation to crack and the entire structure to fall and crumble to dust and leave them suddenly denuded of all the protections they have grown so accustomed to, whereupon the remorseless uncompromising forces of nature will rub them out of existence without missing a beat. meanwhile, the common folk who are one with the earth, who have spent their entire lives bending and flexing and adapting to the forces of nature out of primal necessity rather than trying to resist them and control them by brute force out of hubristic extravagance, will adapt and survive and make the best of it as they have always done through all mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2920225
>Be second liberal capitalist republic
>still have slave economy and landed gentry
>Be second marxist leninist republic
>still have wage labor and capitalist class
BFF 4L

>>2921840
i have class soyciety fatigue