/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

What’s the solution?

honestly not being allowed to translate hebrew but still being allowed to translate every other language is going to make people ask MORE questions, not fewer

xitter is a shithole with 90% bot traffic, there is absolutely no reason to go there and every reason not to

>>2564447
and yet it is shilled as important still and TV media will now discuss tweet screenshots

>>2564452
We shouldn't listen to the media eitehr

>Looking at the "what is Communism" thread
Shit thread, clearly anticommunist bait
>looking for a country where a Trotskyite revolution CAN succeed, and dedicating efforts to decisively win elections there.
wtf

Are you retarded and/or glowing

basically, all you want is LARP socialism / Marxism. Marxism demands praxis, not being bitches of social Dems and fascists.

You have three choices: rear-guardism in the core, or being social Democrat whores. Revolutionary death in some insurgency somewhere, I think only the Naxalites are still active and prominent. Or, moving to an ML country and conducting normal praxis there, by paying your taxes and accelerating socialist development.

I'm suggesting a fourth: find a core country vulnerable enough to the periphery and semi-periphery that has the conditions necessary for electoral victory, and then do it. Then build up counter hegemony from state backing, while under effective semi-periphery protection and support.

>>2564410
Y'know I've heard this point echoed a bunch of times before, sometimes accompanied by that "I can't believe we lost gamers to the right!" tweet but here's the thing: There's a less than zero requirement to "like" lootboxes or "games as a service" on "the right". You've got shit like Asmongold mocking the sheer greed of Activision-Blizzard's Bobby Kotick into a meme. Like at no point was there some understanding "Humm, yes, because of the class composition and the material forces at play I shall support lootboxes to own the feminists" or whatever. It was a battle that, as >>2564736 said, people lost.

I remember when it was controversial to release a game unfinished then patch it later, now we've got early access. Horse Armor DLC was mocked but now every AAA game with multiplayer makes a killing selling skins. Like, no offense, it seems like you're implying "you're only allowed to dislike one thing."

Like let me use another example: the music industry. You had shit like Tipper Gore going after bands who hit the mainstream but had "inappropriate" lyrics. Now the record industry as a whole is shit, it often completely fleeces artists, its extremely litigious and obsessed with copyright. Are people suddenly not supposed to be upset that a couple of dumbass politicians were trying to act as moral arbiters over the whole genre? What do you personally think gets talked about more and gets more people outraged: corporations being money-grubbing assholes, which is a constant, or the local moral police howling "Won't somebody please THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!"

Ditto for comicbooks: everyone talks about the bad old days of the Comic Code Authority, you've got Garth Ennis whose made it his whole fucking career to express the resentment he feels for the CCA turning Superheroes into the primary genre of western comics. How many people talk about comic book publishers choosing to move away from the old model of selling comic books in super markets and towards specialty retailers? Even people who aren't into comics broadly know about the CCA, they don't often know how, for example, Bill Finger was fucked over by Bob Kane who took sole credit for Batman for years.

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>>2555895
>why did college students drop the communist facade once they became working professionals
Truly a mystery.

>>2564761
dudebros were never communist, they were basically always right wing or lolbert

>>2564762
>were never communist
i mean neither are left-liberals yet here we are pretending ideology is a spectrum of ideas that can be pushed to either "side"

Dudebro culture now is working a trade and coming home to have a couple beers. Same as it's always been, difference is now there's now wife and kids to come home to. The reason it's "right wing" now is a result of feminism being a part of popular culture. The guys married or at the very least getting laid aren't the guys complaining. It's just another excuse to blame the liberals or at the other end the jews. So take it with a grain of salt, it isn't that serious. It's easier for normies to see the cultural reasons for them not getting a GF than the the material ones. Same as always

At Least 12 Somali Civilians—Including 8 Children—Killed in Suspected US Airstrikes
The Somali Guardian reported that the strikes occurred near the southern Somali town of Jamame in the Lower Juba region. In addition to the 12 civilians killed, nine others were reportedly wounded in the attack.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/us-airstrikes-somalia-civilians

EPA moves to limit scope of clean water law to reduce amount of wetlands it covers
The Environmental Protection Agency announced Monday it is redefining the scope of the nation’s bedrock clean water law to significantly limit the wetlands it covers, building on a Supreme Court decision two years ago that removed federal protections for vast areas.
https://apnews.com/article/epa-clean-water-act-wetlands-protection-farmers-0b2447e3bfd86f4766d4ef74edcd6dbd

Democrats seek to halt Trump’s reported plan to sell off student loan portfolio
The Democrats argue it is illegal to strip borrowers of certain protections and the Trump administration in the sale of the portfolio could go after income-driven repayment programs, death and disability discharges and relief for those defrauded by their schools. It could also cause losses to the taxpayer, according to Democrats. The law states the student loan portfolio cannot be sold at the expense of the taxpayer.
https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5608859-trump-student-loan-portfolio-debt-relief-warren/
https://archive.ph/S819S

Ted Cruz sets stage for 2028 run with Tucker jabs
Cruz, the runner-up to Trump in the 2016 GOP primary, has been taking steps toward a presidential run. He's been hitting the speaker's circuit, including with recent appearances before the Miami-Dade Republican Party and the Maverick PAC, an organization geared toward young conservatives.
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Interview With the PFLP Political Relations Abdullah Al-Danan — “Resistance Lives in the Hearts of the Palestinian People”
After all the dramatic events from October 7, 2023, up to the ceasefire, how do you assess the situation in Gaza? Do you believe Israel will abide by the ceasefire and the other agreed-upon terms?
The situation in Gaza is, of course, dire. There are more than 70,000 martyrs, over 10,000 missing persons, and more than 100,000 wounded — many of them amputees. As for adherence to the ceasefire, we do not trust this Zionist entity or this enemy. We have no faith in its promises, nor in those who have guaranteed this agreement. (Israel, editors note) has already violated the deal. Today, three martyrs were killed in Gaza. This morning, the ceasefire was breached in the eastern part of the Strip — just as it has been in Lebanon, where the number of violations has now exceeded 6,000. We have no confidence in this agreement. As some officials noted today, even the American president declared that he would give the green light for renewed bombings if Hamas failed to return the bodies of dead Zionist captives. This agreement is not guaranteed — unfortunately. But there are also factors preventing this entity from continuing the war in Gaza as before. Israel has not achieved any of the goals it set out at the beginning of its aggression. Not a single one. As Netanyahu himself admitted in the Knesset, he paid a heavy price in Gaza for attempting to free the Zionist captives. At first, the aggression began with the occupation of Gaza. Then came economic projects aimed at turning Gaza into the “Riviera of the Middle East,” followed by divisions between Arab and international forces.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/22978/

The BBC ‘coup’: A ruling class at war with itself
In the 1940s, the BBC lied about the extent of anti-colonial sentiment in India to justify British rule. And then, in the 1950s, it whitewashed British atrocities in Kenya. In the 1970s, the BBC explicitly ramped up its pro-Tory bias in the face of industrial unrest, reaching a pinnacle in the 1980s, when it doctored footage of the Miners’ Strike to cover up police violence. In the 2000s, the BBC was weaponised by the ruling class to whip up support for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. And in the 2010s, it repeatedlPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Thanks News Anon

>>2563408
there's a lot of 'definitions' of what 'communism' is as a mode of governance or a state of affairs, but one that I personally find useful is that Communists understand politics as essentially class warfare, as a fundamentally adversarial relationship between 'Capitalists' - those who 'own' the 'means of production', things like factories, housing, equipment, land, resources, but do not need to perform labor to survive - and the 'Proletariat' or 'Workers' - those that do not own property, but must sell their labor to the capitalist class to survive.

the power dynamics at play mean that the Capitalist class will always pay the Proletariat less than the actual value of their labor, keeping the majority of the value that the laborers created for the Capitalist class as Profit. If they did not do this, they would by definition not have any profit whatsoever. but since they do, the capitalist class has more resources with which to control and direct society.

so Communists, using this analytical framework, seek to engage equally in this class warfare on behalf of the Proletariat rather than the Capitalists. Communists seek a 'class dictatorship of the proletariat', or a state of government that serves the needs and interests of the Proletariat rather than those of the Capitalist class. This often looks something like a representative democracy in function, the difference is in the domination of the capitalist class by the proletariat class, rather than vice versa under capitalism. where a capitalist democracy is ruled by those with the most money (and therefore power/influence over media/social life/the material conditions that reproduce society), a proletarian democracy is ruled by a Communist Party which is constituted such as to reduce the influence of the Capitalist class, with strict ideological requirements and vetting of prospective members, and maintaining democratic rather than private control over the means of production.

>>2564309
historically illiterate, ignoring the massive, massive amounts of capitalist repression of emerging socialist governments. your argument is basically 'Well the nazis are so good at fighting i guess its a bad idea to fight them', pure cowardice, self-serving nihilism, imperialist apologia at worst.

>>2564330
I will be honest, I would not fight the nazis if I had no chance of winning. Would I sacrifice myself if life under nazism was dogshit? Maybe. But you cannot ignore that most communist faults are self-inflicted. Infighting and forcing everything to be under one umbrella creates so many unsolvable problems. Imagine trying to regulate every facet of your body, the breathing, the sweating, the digestion, your brain would be exhausted if not dead from overwork. And yet AES countries did exactly that. Notice how the socialist countries that had higher standards of living allowed for more independence.

Ukrtankanon, champsoc, you wanna get in on this? The dog pile looks like the Pentagon's new target and I can't be arsed to config DeepSeek to generate counter Claude content.

>>2563786
Flat out lies, given that the Soviet Union industrialized, that China went from a war torn shithole, to a nuclear power shit hole, then to a technological juggernaut approximating Western demsocs without electoralism.

Honestly, at this point, thank you for convincing me that Trotskyites should succeed somewhere in the West, just to break the Western propaganda line and give strength to socialist movements, as much as the Russian and Chinese revolutions broke the capitalist cordon in semi periphery and periphery countries.

Je pense sincèrement que la France sera le premier pays où le néolibéralisme s'effondrera. Réfléchissez : il y a trois factions au sein du gouvernement français : les néolibéraux traditionnels (Macron), les fascistes (Le Pen) et la gauche. Le gouvernement français doit encore se préoccuper de sa dette car il utilise l'euro et ne possède pas de monnaie nationale. Cette dette pourrait entraîner un défaut de paiement et l'effondrement du pays. Les néolibéraux n'auront d'autre choix que de laisser le pouvoir aux fascistes ou à la gauche. Le reste de l'UE ne laissera pas les fascistes prendre le pouvoir. Les opérations militaires en Afrique pèsent trop lourd sur les finances publiques. À terme, le gouvernement devra réduire drastiquement tous les programmes sociaux. Lorsque cela arrivera, le peuple se révoltera. Les Français ne sont pas comme les Burgers : ils se battront même pour une petite partie de leurs pensions de retraite. L'effondrement du gouvernement français rappellera celui du Pacte de Varsovie.

>>2559634
>Le reste de l'UE ne laissera pas les fascistes prendre le pouvoir
HAHAHAHAHAHA
hilarant, tu fais du stand up?

>>2559619
>crying about a drunk soldier killing your father, healing people indiscriminately, or boasting about killing soldiers crushing your revolution is being a traitor
hope the future communards will put you against the wall too

>>2559619
You missed the point of the song. It takes place during the last days of the suppression of the Commune. The point is that the suppression is so blind that they're just killing anyone they can get their hands on: Friends of the Commune, Foes of the Commune, and neutrals alike.

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>>2564613
Sore throat don?

>>2564580
Oh. So of course Thiel's gay too. I'm getting real tried of these literal faggots ruining everything.

>>2564630
can't use that word, too sexist! this is a tumblr friendly space

>>2564580
I’m pretty sure our ruling class are just sexual hedonist. They got the money to afford whatever hole they want at anytime a day.

>>2563732
Apart from housing and healthcare all of that would be wildly unpopular.

>>2563607
USA

1. Universal health care. Start with single-payer (Medicare for All) then expand to full nationalization. Cut long-term costs by emphasizing preventative care.
2. Massive public housing program. Vienna on steroids. Housing should be so good that everyone wants to live in it. Full unconditional housing should be the goal. Should look aesthetically pleasing for PR purposes.
3. Nationwide high speed rail connecting all lower 48 states. Should be cheap and fast enough to compete with airlines.
4. Reinvestment in NASA, funded by seizing all of Elon Musk's assets. First goal should be a second moon landing.
5. Permanent revival and expansion of the Civilian Conservation Corps, acting as a full training and employment program.

>>2563607
Country: Argentina

1. Massive development of football public infrastructure

2. Massive nationalization of meat industry and weekly distribution of free asado in government plazas, effectively turning them in the de facto core of the life of the people

3. Massive propaganda psyop campaign that will convince people that Argentina has effective control over the malvinas, while throwing free meat and football players at the UK in order to make them shut up

4. Lunfardo as official government language, pertaining bureaucracy, law, education… Massive pressure to the UN to teach translators lunfardo in order to use it in international councils

5. Massive psyop campaign that will target the capital and convince it that its exorbitant privilege is entirely legitimate, while at the same time deploying a parallel campaign in the provinces that will convince people that the state is actually decentralizing, while in reality absolutely nothing is being done but everyone's happy

>>2563607
>[realistic] political positions
so literally anything already existing bourgeois parties already propose? lol

>anti-immigration but not anti-immigrant
literally all countries to different degrees let acceptable immigrants in and kick out the undesirables already

cool thread man

>>2549932
>What's stopping me from turning around, taking the whip and whipping they instead?

The fear of getting whipped again. I don't care how tough you are, it won't take more than a few good licks on the bare back with a bullwhip or a birch switch to drive all those silly thoughts of rebellion out of your mind and make you realize what is actually most important to you in your life, which is to not get whipped again.

1. divide and conquer
- incentivize atomized, subservient behavior cooperative to occupation
- punish or remove the strong, charismatic, intelligent and outspoken
- this creates levels of privilege and misery, with the goal of not falling further down, and maybe being able to climb up. The outcome is controlled by the ruling class, putting them in charge of the actions of any rational and self-serving individual

2. supremacy ideology
- with the material foundation of drastic differences in living condition, convince both the ruling and ruled classes of fundamental differences that must cause this division. The rulers are superior and untouchable, the ruled are weak, stupid, and selfish
- the rulers see the condition of the oppressed as natural
- the ruled believe there's no way they could ever beat the rulers
- some ruled worship or want to become the rulers, despising their own class. It creates solidarity among the rulers and dissolves solidarity among the ruled

3. manipulating people with the effects of trauma
- use terror and deprivation on the ruled to make them obedient, make them grateful to barely (but at least) survive
- makes individuals less outgoing, therefore less likely to organize
- keep them only thinking about survival, and the easiest way to survive the next day is to obey and not do anything differently than before
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just 2 reasons really

1) Raw strength; the ruling class is obviously better equipped to militarily enforce their will land defend their interests, whereas proles literally have nothing and getting guns is hard

2) Ideology; as if the previous point weren't already enough, the majority of people nowadays absolutely love the system they live under (completely consciously and willingly) and are dumb enough to think its interests coincide with theirs. That's how you get people going around spewing constructive criticism of capitalism out of their mouths.

>>2547502
organization, discipline
why do you think communists are obsessed with those? because this is the source of power

>>2553610
A method to oevrcome all those forms of control has never been found and probably will never be. But it is not required as history shows. Good post though
>>2557273
Raw strength has limits. It is constrained by legitimacy. As for ideology, I don't think people love the system. They just believe there's no other way
>>2557523
This discipline and organization is nowhere to be seen. Long gone are the days of thousands of common people organized meaningfully

Not Syria, Turkey peace process stuff but can someone please explain me what he meant by this? I was lost before even the Mandani stuff.
We are socialists, alhamdulillah
<Ege Cansen
The intellectual property of this striking title belongs to Yunus Emre Erdölen, one of the writers of "Freedom ." I congratulate him. Before continuing, as is our custom, I will attempt to delve into the roots of some words. Words are the building blocks of understanding, thinking, and generating ideas. Correct ideas are constructed with the right words. The original meaning of words changes over time. More accurately, people ascribe meanings to them that suit their convenience. Because humans are economic. One form of economic behavior is not taking responsibility for things you cannot do. "Elhamdulillah " does not mean "Thank God," but "I praise God ." This translation was made by the literary scholar Hamdullah Suphi (1885-1966). He took the Turkish equivalent of the Arabic name "Hamdullah" (Turkish: Tanrıöver) as his surname. Hamt(d) is derived from the root "h, m, d." It means praise or exaltation. Muhammad (Mehmet), Ahmed, Mahmut, and so on, all come from this root. Gratitude does not come from the same root. The English equivalent of "Elhamdulillah " is "Praise (the) God ." Hallelujah also has the same meaning. The prophets told their believers, "Do not deify yourself, anyone, or me by praising or boasting, but praise Almighty God ." They added, "The rules of life (the sharia) I have communicated are not my commandments, but God's." Thus, they did not assume the responsibility of rewarding those who adhere to the rules they communicated and punishing those who do not. This attitude is rational, that is, economic. In another article, I will discuss the economic aspects of the expressions "salamun aleykum" and "aleykum selam."

He is a revolutionist

Zohran Mamdani, a 34-year-old Ugandan-born Indian Shia Muslim, has been elected mayor of New York City as the Democratic Party's candidate. Mamdani met his secular Muslim wife on an online dating site and married her. He describes himself as a socialist who supports the rights of minorities, women, and gays. In a city with a large Jewish population like New York, he has openly supported Palestinians. Despite the widespread fear of Islam and socialism (read: communism) among white Americans, he has made neithPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2536818
what do you guys think is going on here?
Talal Silo to Rudaw: I am ready to return to the ranks of the SDF through negotiation.
Talal Silo, the former spokesman for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), expressed his readiness to return to the SDF ranks "through negotiation or humanitarian work aimed at preventing war" with Damascus, stressing that he is still in contact with leading figures in the SDF for the purpose of reassurance and friendship.

Salou defected from the Syrian Democratic Forces in 2017, heading to areas controlled by the Free Army factions north of Aleppo at that time, and then left for Türkiye.

Silo, who was given the rank of "colonel," indicated his refusal to play an "offensive" role against the Syrian Democratic Forces, noting that he is currently "threatened" by Ankara.

During the interview with Rudaw, conducted by presenter Dilbakhwin Dara, he confirmed his readiness to visit areas of northern and eastern Syria, such as the cities of Qamishli, Hasakah and Raqqa, provided that there are “special arrangements to preserve his life,” expressing his desire to settle in the Kurdish city of Afrin because it is “beautiful and its people are hospitable.”

Below is the text of the dialogue:

Rudaw: We welcome Colonel Talal Silo, the former spokesperson for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). He later defected and went to Turkey, a move that sparked much controversy and reaction, but he did not wish to antagonize the SDF. Now, he has returned to the forefront with his interviews and statements. I felt it was important at this sensitive time to conduct a special interview with him. My guest is Colonel Talal Silo, the former spokesperson for the Syrian Democratic Forces, from Aleppo. Welcome, Colonel, I hope you are well. Before you became the SDF spokesperson, after you left, and even now, I have been following you closely. I want to start with the final question: Are you prepared to return to the ranks of the SDF?

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topkek. gg. get rekt.
The Damascus administration is alleged to have handed over 'Uyghur jihadists' to China.
According to the report, a diplomatic source stated that the number of people to be handed over was 400 jihadists.

It is known that tens of thousands of foreign “jihadists” flocked to Syria, especially through Türkiye, during the civil war between 2011 and 2024.

A Syrian government source, who asked to remain anonymous due to sensitivity, said the situation of Uyghur fighters was raised in meetings with Foreign Minister Assad al-Shabani in China.

It remains unknown whether such a step will be taken. The interim government's actions to date raise serious questions. Since the beginning of the Syrian war, tens of thousands of foreigners have flocked to Syria, particularly to join groups affiliated with ISIS and al-Qaeda.

In June, it was reported that the US had conditionally approved a plan prepared by Syria's new government to integrate thousands of former foreign jihadists into the national army. US President Donald Trump's special envoy for Syria, Thomas Barrack, stated that Washington had given the green light on the condition that the process be conducted with "full transparency."

It was stated that within the scope of the plan, approximately 3,500 foreign "warriors" of Uyghur origin, mostly from China and surrounding countries, would join the newly established 84th Division of the Syrian Army.

When asked by Reuters in Damascus, “Does the US approve of the inclusion of foreign fighters in the new Syrian army?” Thomas Barrack responded, “I can say that there is an agreement based on transparency.”

>>2564002
Related:

>Syria reiterated its commitment to the One-China principle, reaffirming that Taiwan is an integral part of the People’s Republic of China and an inalienable part of its territory.

>He emphasized his concern for China’s security interests and affirmed that Syria will not be a source of threat to China, nor will it allow any entities to use its territory for activities that could harm China’s security, sovereignty, or interests.
This is probably referring to uyghur jihadists in Syria.

>China also affirmed its support for Syria’s developmental path, which aligns with its national conditions, and stressed that the occupied Syrian Golan is Syrian land, whose status is recognized by the international community.

https://xcancel.com/syrianmofaex/status/1990404428214464647

>>2564002
so nothingburger?