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 No.1028795[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I am an artist. I hire someone to serve as a model for my painting. I finish the painting and sell it for 10k. I pay the model 1k for their service.

Did I exploit the model?

The painting is a commodity. The model contributed to the commodity via their service.
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 No.1036442

>>1036437
If you mean like in cases such as the medical profession where nurses in particular are difficult to replace and impossible to automate, that is absolutely true. Also, to again use the example of nurses, workers who are exploited at an unusually high rate–like nurses are–require more total and more expensive commodities to keep them working, just because they burn out so much faster that they need serious recouperation between their shifts and generally less stress in their home lives. Marx noted that any increase in the rate of exploitation corresponds with an increase in the total value of the means of subsistence, but it is not an equal or even a consistent formula.

However, in more strictly capitalist enterprises, labor that becomes too highly-skilled to efectively exploit tends to be eliminated entirely. Their jobs just stop existing, their function in society lost completely (sayonara, travel agents!). Often, their function will be replaced by either automation or by simplifying the job enough that less skilled workers can do it, but that usually occurs after the original highly-skilled jobs have already been eliminated. The automotive industry is a good example of that effect.

 No.1036458

>>1036442
Interesting. I was thinking of doctors and software engineers in the US (because elsewhere they are not even paid well). But yeah, I see how what you're saying applies.

So wages are stagnating but people are burning out more and more.

 No.1036465

>>1036458
Software engineers are in the enviable position of being the people who create the autotmation that eliminates other jobs. Companies need them to, ironically enough, slash their own overhead. Also, in the United States, the West Coast tech giants like to keep the people that they do hire to those positions loyal.

In contrast, look at how the entertainment industry pays software engineers. Remember, these are guys with advanced degrees living in San Francisco and Seattle.
https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Video+Game+Software+Engineer&redirected=1

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>>1036465
>>1036465
>Software engineers are in the enviable position of being the people who create the autotmation that eliminates other jobs.
Also they (we) are creators of rentable virtual/digital property.

The entertainment industry creates less rentable property and more expiring commodities (although with long shelf life games like GTA V and LoL etc, that's changing).

Personally, I took a huge paycut to not work in the US and moved to Europe where salaries are 30-50% of US salaries for similar software jobs, sometimes for the same companies.

 No.1048436

>>1032475
HI, sorry for the late reply I've been busy.

This is still difficult for me to wrap my head around. An employer say pays you 10 [currency] per hour. You work 8 hours a day. How do you determine which of these hours is "excess"? How do you determine how much is an hour of work ACTUALLY worth? If your hours were cut from 8 to 4 but you were still paid 10 [currency] an hour what is the implication? How does automation factor into this, wherein labor is replaced but new labor is also required?



 No.1029683[Reply]

What should leftists do a degree in, in university? Is there any point to attaining a higher education other than personal growth and career? Should leftists skip higher education and become tradesmen or factory workers to have a greater connection to the proletariat?
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>>1030229
it's solving in cubic time a problem that is linear in time for three sorted arrays. even if you have to sort them yourself it should be at most O(n log n)

 No.1032182

>>1030249
But teaching is for pedos.

 No.1047885

>>1029683
Engineering

 No.1047889

>>1029683
worthy degrees:
>philosophy
(prepare your anus for reaction)
>economics
(prepare your anus for reaction)
>whatever STEM degree
(just chill)

Obviously, it is about least resistance

 No.1048384

>>1029683
Do whatever you like, your political ideology shouldn't influence your study plan.



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 No.1041397

>>1041386
This is sort of true, at the last election Chinese people voted against the Libs in droves because of the anti-China rhetoric.
It's more true for Vietnamese Australians, given most of them were refugees in the 70s/80s.

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 No.1043588

>>1043500
>shitney
God is finally drowning the heathens

 No.1044658

>>1043500
>The Illawarra and Sydney regions should expect up to 90 millimetres of rain on Sunday, with strong 35km/h winds to lash the city
It's muh climate change. Quick, go buy greenwashed shitty products made in China, pleb!

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The largest EV charging network in Australia is now co-operatively owned. Anybody can become a member of these clubs.

<A consortium of Australia’s motoring clubs has acquired electric vehicle (EV) charging network business Chargefox.


<Australian Mobility Clubs – which is composed of NRMA (NSW), RACV (Victoria), RACQ (Queensland), RAC (WA), RAA (SA), and RACT (Tasmania) – increased its stake in Chargefox from 40 per cent to 100 per cent through its company Australian Motoring Services.


<Chargefox is currently Australia’s largest EV charging network, with more than 900 plugs currently in operation, and plans to increase that number to 5000 by 2026.


https://www.drive.com.au/news/motoring-clubs-acquire-chargefox-network/



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 No.1046350[Reply]

There is all this talk of self-sacrifice for the revolution and romanticisation of class warfare, fighting at the front lines against our class enemies. You do realise that this is the most deadly part of it all, right?

I think it's vital to remind ourselves that we are more useful to the movement alive rather than dead.
The bourgeoisie prefered if we were all exterminated, and they historically went to great lengths to support, arm and train the fascist death squads to murder all suspected communists around the world.
The early USSR had the serious issue of having lost too many authentic communists during the Russian Civil War and especially WW2. As a result they were forced to employ opportunists into goverment positions, which undermined ideological integrity of the revolution.
Something similar happened in the most recent example in Donbass, which showed promise at the start, but quickly most significant communist elements in the autonomous regions were destroyed by the war, which resulted in DPR/LPR moving towards Russian nationalism as opposed to socialism.

What can be done to reduce our casualties as much as possible, without alienating our fellow proles, since they'd be basically cannon fodder against the reaction?

I think, this will be especially important nowadays, because there are very few authentic communists, since most are just LARP or radlibs of different flavours.
COVID and the Cuckraine Situation showed that many failed these tests to stay in the correct line and descended back into liberal schizophrenia.

It also shows that our education methods, to replace losses and increase our numbers, are frankly shit, since most "communists" are at best vulgar marxists. I'm shocked to see time and time again, when I read 19th & 20th century works at how much superior past communists were in every aspect. It's depressing how far we are still from that level considering humanities predicament.
We need to be at our best to defeat capitalism – and needless to say; alive.
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 No.1047452

>>1047444
Yes, communists will be attacked by the capitalist state. But communists will have a higher chance of success if they control more resources before military confrontation happens. So what communists need is a strategy to take control of land and people before the war starts. Coop'ing local economies is one way to do that.

 No.1048017

>>1047432
What is the Burmese path exactly?

 No.1048271

>>1046385
As a Buddhist, I disown his beliefs. That is completely against Buddha's teachings. He was passionate, but deluded. May he rest in peace.

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>>1046469
this. I remember the org I just left sent out a mass e-mail with everyone's e-mail in "to:" for an event open to the fucking public, with hundreds of people joining online from god knows where. of course, like many other orgs, they probably exist solely to kick up subs to the higher ups. all the cadres are just broke or spottily employed millennials who are desperate for a full-time position with laughable pay. it's fucking pathetic, honestly.

 No.1048280

>>1046367
What people often miss about security is that it has a *political* character as much as the practical security measures that you take, so practicing good politics helps on the security front or at least minimizing potential wedges that can be exploited. One example is male chauvinism and the toxic features of it which is often exploited by glowies (like trying to prove your manhood by doing something reckless and stupid). Like, one reason why right-wing orgs glow is because they have the same mindset as cops to begin with.

I think communism is good when it combines a strong core and spirit of conviction with a rational and scientific method of organizing.

>>1047402
Also this

The movement needs a lot of people who can do everyday tasks. I think if everyone who blabs for hours on Twitter spent an hour a week on some of these more practical housekeeping / organizing tasks, then things would improve. It kinda sounds evil to say "we need more followers, fewer leaders" but I don't see any other way of putting it.



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 No.957578[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

ULTRA GENERAL
Hate capitalism? Hate fellow "communists" just as much? Big fan of great and authentic revolutionaries? Do you have extremely opinionated takes on obscure sectarian struggles within the early Italian Communist Party? Then boy, this is the thread for you!

>Left-Communist Reading List

https://jovial-perlman-b35199.netlify.app/

>/r/bruhinternational Reading List

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bruhinternational/comments/m53hon/official_rbruhinternational_reading_list/

>ICP Website (great web design)

https://www.international-communist-party.org/

<NOTE: Thread is open to any and all discussion of tendencies that fall under the "leftcom" umbrella. Camattist anarcho-cavemen are welcome

yes, I know ultra and leftcom are retarded terms that don't represent a real tendency
And yes, I am bringing Bordiga memes from the dead
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 No.1047896

>>1046312
communization is an open dialogue on political strategy, talking about "moving on" from it is kind of silly

 No.1047899

>>1047892
this is hilarious 10/10

 No.1047901

>>957578
Leftcoms are politically impotent, which reduces their wrecking potential, but should all eat lasagna till they die because of how annoying these useless creatures are

 No.1047910

>>959907
>This is Engels arguing that a bourgeoisie republic is at first required for the dictatorship of the proletariat to be realized, not that the DotP should be a republic.
holy fucking cope

 No.1048008

>>1047896
>talking about "moving on" from it is kind of silly
literally everyone involved in it have distanced themselves from it since, the only people that still talk about it are online



 No.1047893[Reply]

It seems like since the pandemic nothing has really happened, not just in the sense that nothings changed but nothing significant has occurred as if the entire planet just fell into some limbo where nothing major can occur. I don’t know if I’ve been off with politics in favour of video games and work for too long, idk if the general global population just sort of adapted to changes and stopped giving a shit about anything, I just don’t fucking know how to feel about what’s even supposed to change
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 No.1047918

>>1047913
Listen I’m not gonna try to read minds. Are you saying this does or it doesn’t matter man, staring at politics for me these days just looks like watching a burning dumpster fire leaving and coming back to see it’s still on fire and still littered with trash I’m familiar with

 No.1047923

>>1047911
just wait till the end of the year and the food shortage revolutions and rebellions start in the ME and Africa

 No.1047926

>>1047923
And that’s different from what’s already occurring now how? Europe and nearly all of America is genuine yeither on par or worse than your average developing country due to shit infrastructure, shit politics and shit access to basic things like water and food due to fucked up corps fucking with fresh water supplies, along with farmers forgetting to fertilize the soil after each harvest causing nitrogen levels in the soil most people rely on to be near finished these days in the west

 No.1047929

>>1047918
>Are you saying this does or it doesn’t matter
what do you think? Are you an American? Is your reading comprehension passable?

 No.1047933

>>1047929
I just stated man I don’t fucking know what you think about these past years of events and I’m not gonna try to predict what you meant without a level of clarity. I can at least guess you think this shit matters, maybe it does maybe



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 No.1044487[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Geopolitics General >>1004370

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/former-soviet-president-mikhail-gorbachev-7231288
Former Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev 'seriously ill' at 91

Cometh ye folks, cometh into the new age.
For previous threads, check >>>/leftypol_archive/

When will the whole Lugansk oblast will taken? Bet thread number below 🎰

LIVE MAPS AND UPDATES

>N.B. liveuamap.com is not to be trusted, they mostly parrot Ministry of Defence, these others may not be better, check their reporting first


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/28/russia-ukraine-crisis-in-maps-and-charts-live-news-interactive
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 No.1047877

>>1047865
imagine telling the the top donators to your opposition party: “pretty please stop price gouging during my 1st term!”

liberals are either fucking clueless about how power works, or they're paid losers. it's never neither.

 No.1047878

>>1047742
This video is eternal.

 No.1047881

>>1047877
Or it's just empty words. Just like promises to keep Roe v. Wade.

 No.1047903

NEW THREAD
>>1047900
NEW THREAD
>>1047900
NEW THREAD
>>1047900
NEW THREAD
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 No.1048534

>>1047856
damn, look at his fingers, goddamn.



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 No.1047673[Reply]

https://twitter.com/WeAreProtestors/status/1543297937983553536
>Video shows the moment protestors stormed the Libyan parliament building in Tobruk on Friday.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/03/un-secretary-general-urges-calm-libya-protests-tripoli

>Libyan protesters, after a year of comparative calm in the face of interminable political infighting, appear to have lost patience with the political class, saying they would continue to demonstrate until all the ruling elites had left power.

 No.1047679

I remeber reading something earlier today that some elections (not sure if presidential or another) were going to happen in Libya soon but since they were hosted by the US embassy they decided to cancel them because Gaddafi's son was running and stood a chance of winning.

 No.1047687

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/24/muammar-gaddafis-son-disqualified-from-standing-in-libya-election

>The military prosecutor in Tripoli had urged the commission to rule out Gaddafi after his conviction in absentia on war crimes charges in 2015 for his part in fighting the revolution that toppled his father, Muammar Gaddafi, in 2011. Gaddafi has denied wrongdoing.

 No.1047766

THE GHOST OF TRIPOLI JUST FLEW OVER MY PARLIAMENT

 No.1047792

>>1047687
>Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, the son of Libya’s former dictator, Muammar Gaddafi, has been sentenced to death by a court in Tripoli.

>Saif, once seen as his father’s heir apparent, was condemned to death along with eight other figures from the former dictatorship, including the former intelligence chief Abdullah al-Senussi and Gaddafi’s last prime minister, Al-Baghdadi Ali al-Mahmoudi.


>The mass trial, which opened in Tripoli in April last year, has been mired in controversy after human rights groups and the international criminal court questioned its standards.


>There is uncertainty about whether the sentence will be carried out, as Saif is being held by a militia in the mountain town of Zintan that is opposed to Libya Dawn, the militia coalition in control of Tripoli.


>Saif has been held in Zintan since he was caught trying to flee Libya in the aftermath of the 2011 revolution. The militia has refused to hand him over to Tripoli.


>He was accused in the trial of recruiting mercenaries, attacking civilian targets from the air, forming armed groups and shooting into crowds of demonstrators. Among the charges he was convicted of were incitement to murder and rape.


>The international criminal court indicted Saif, along with Senussi, for war crimes and crimes against humanity but judges in The Hague refused Libya permission to try him. However, the ICC gave permission for Senussi to be tried in Libya, and the former intelligence chief, held in custody in Tripoli, was one of 28 defendants in court. Four of the Gaddafi-era figures were cleared of charges.


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 No.1047803

>>1047792
If he gets Ceausescu'd is that likely to cause his supporters to tear everything down? If it does that may be the third civil war the country has been in since 2011. It seems that Libya will not know peace for decades to come.



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 No.1034683[Reply]

list all the happenings happening atm or recently:

Covid

Ukraine

Roe V Wade

Ecuador Riots

Election of Pedro

da rise of da chinese

Election of BONG BONG marcos
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 No.1043765

Chinese markets hit a fall today.

Could be temporary. Maybe not.

 No.1043768

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>>1042341
holy fuck I lived long enough for the meme to become real… and old enough that I didn't even see it… blind…. BLIND

 No.1043769

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 No.1047610

Protests in Uzbekistan

Farmer protests in the Netherlands.

Protests in Ghana

 No.1047676

Protests in Libya

https://twitter.com/WeAreProtestors/status/1543297937983553536
>Video shows the moment protestors stormed the Libyan parliament building in Tobruk on Friday.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/03/un-secretary-general-urges-calm-libya-protests-tripoli

>Libyan protesters, after a year of comparative calm in the face of interminable political infighting, appear to have lost patience with the political class, saying they would continue to demonstrate until all the ruling elites had left power.



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 No.1046075[Reply]

Why can't idealism and marxism go together? When I read Che. I read a very romantic version of Marxism that paints a proletarian struggle towards self determination and a proper, purified culture. I think the overly scientific/materialist lens of Marxism kind of dillutes the true potential of an ideology found upon liberation of all peoples and the use of the world's resources for all. The problem in a culture like America isn't just material but also spiritual, in attitude to how Americans see each other and their relationship to society.
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 No.1047553

>>1046075
I suffer too for being evangelical and communist at the same time

 No.1047581

>>1047553
look into ernst bloch and terry eagleton

 No.1047587

Idealism in common parlance is not the same thing.
Also you’re a dumb frog poster.

 No.1047588

>why cant fire and water go together?
t. water gang

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