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Is this the reasoning leftists have? They are frustrated they can't consume as much as they want to, compared to other people. They're unironically greedy and materialistic. These are people that get resentful of others.
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>your greedy and resentful your not upper class or successful
This is like saying that people who wanted to abolish slavery were just resentful that they weren't slave owners.
Tell me OP, how do you feel about private businesses deplatforming or firing people for wrongthink (what's commonly referred to as "cancel culture")? And if you oppose such actions, do you think it would be better to address such things by
A) hoping that the people who hold the power to make those decisions are replaced by someone who agrees with you and hoping that they maintain that position indefinitely, or
B) eliminating the system of private control which allows such issues to exist in the first place?


It's how they've always functioned


10/10 gr8 b8 m8.


Why would I be jealous when I can just pirate and steal? lmao

everyone should have access to the same stuff rich people have, money shouldn't exist, and you as well as most people under capitalism are (currently) incapable of thinking about a system where you don't need to become a slave or an exploiter to survive.


why are you looking at furry artists on twitter

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What is type of politics from techoids called when they say they don't believe in politics, but implicitly spout libertarian bullshit? Gotta say, it really triggers my sensitivities.

How can we save the tech workers?
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They also fell for the really obvious management psychology, and don't think class society exists because Mark Zuckerberg wears jeans and hoodie, and people can work from home on a laptop instead of on a production line.


>I don't know what do you mean with it being concerning,

Concerning in that corporations are taking the place of traditionally social institutions, its a form of commodifying basic interaction which is spooky.

>The upside of this, and this is what I am suggesting, is that these "social clubs" are many times places where people can vent. And this venting is sometimes about work conditions (including ethics).

Yes, workers organizing and discussing their conditions is a good thing.

>Radlibbery has some takes that are "parallel" from marxism.

This is because class consciousness (and I suppose most elements of Marxism) arises naturally, the conclusions of Marxism are the same conclusions that other people will make when they analyze their (and others) material conditions and interests.

>Many radlibs understand that BLM is not only about people being racist, but about systemic racism and are expressly "anti-capitalist" because they understand that the system in "systemic" is capitalism.

Anti-capitalist in practice yes, but not expressly. I love the fact that saying 'fuck the police' is now a mainstream thing as it actively fights against the states mechanism of enforcing capitalism. However I feel as though most radlibs have not made the connection that the issue is with capitalism and the concept of class itself. It seems as though most chalk up systemic racism simply to 'muh racist cops'.


>BLM is anticapitalist




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>However I feel as though most radlibs have not made the connection that the issue is with capitalism and the concept of class itself. It seems as though most chalk up systemic racism simply to 'muh racist cops'.
I think a big part of the revolt against the police is the fact that the cops are like a state-empowered lumpen gang that preys on workers. Lumpen is usually associated with homeless people and petty criminals and so forth, but I think that cops have a lumpen character in they make money from stealing – through fines, confiscation of property in "investigations" (rarely returned).

This was pretty explicit in Ferguson which saw the first BLM uprising. That the police are just predators in these sense immediately apparent to poor and working people, but like you said, the class conflict is often not expressed in as explicit terms as this.


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What if the police are the real proletarians?

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I want a leftypol thread about the Duality of Man
At once mankind is both creative and destructive, capable of acts of both amazing altruism and self-sacrifice as well as acts of great barbarism, man creates art but also wages war, man ponders the secrets of the universe and the depths of the soul, man is truly an amazing creature; let’s discuss this without a spooked idea like “Muh Terialism” getting in the way :)
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It's dumbass essentialist monarchism if anything. For fascism, look no further than the racially pure and shamelessly class-collaborating Duckburg.


I think you are a reactionary because you blame society and human nature for war.
You should read Lenin https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/


>War happens between organized societies, they happen because of economic, political and social systems, not primitive instincts like aggression.
A primitive instinct like aggression is a means of gaining a superior foothold in your economic, political, and social needs and desires.
this isn't some "human evil dunga" just just the simple fact that bonking a man to take his shit is a pretty decent way of getting shit.


"i have a shared material interest with you" doesn't suddenly completely resolve all other issues. It means that there's someone going through both our pockets for money, and we'd both be better off if we didn't have that.

If you start thinking the "shared material interest" goes further than that, you're going to fall for con men.


But can we kill the pickpocket before we kill each other?

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Creative destruction is the driving force behind capitalistic economic growth. Marx was the first to mention its destructive power.

Creative destruction is the idea that good ideas/corporations survive and bad ideas/corporations die and give room and wasted resources to better ideas/corporations. Its basically evolutionary theory applied to market economics.

Can this theory be emulated in a planned economy? Is it even desirable to emulate this theory as Marx was very critical about it? In my opinion Marx failed to see the benefits of letting bad ideas die that waste resources.
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Fpbp, and yes


"Creative destruction" of individual firms isn't important so much as the underlying drive to revolutionize production under market competition is.

The lack of this "drive to innovation" is what caused the "stagnation" of Actually Existing Socialism. Soviet factory managers refused to install new computers or equipment out of concern that they'd fuck up their production process. Workers and farmers refused to increase their output because they feared being given higher production quotas in return. Yugoslavian co-op workers declined to invest in their own firms in favor of higher payouts now.

It turns out that "emancipated socialist workers" are still human beings with short time horizons, a disdain for repetitive industrial labor, etc. Failure to take this into account means your planned economy will always lag behind a comparative capitalist system, where the bourgeoisie is free to take risks and compete over the objections and suffering of the workers.


I think the existence of zombie corporations would blow this out of the water. To a certain point, some corporations turn into monopolies that buy out the state to protect them so creative destruction won't be able to happen. Instead, I'd say the anarchy of production is rather the "essential fact" about capitalism. *imo


So what should be the goal for communists then? The abolition of repetitive industrial labor?


> In my opinion Marx failed to see the benefits of letting bad ideas die that waste resources.
what the fuck are you talking about you dumb nigger
Capitalism's marketplace forces these bad ideas to stick around sucking up resources for years and years until market forces eventually force them out of play. In some cases, due to other various factors other than muh perfect marketplace of rationality, the shitter designs and setups are the ones that stick around and the better designs are lost to the dustbin of history.

Just as a reminder of one of the incredible inefficiencies of capitalism from just last year was that the ventilators that had to be mass produced for COVID were an inefficient old design that out-competed a newer, much cheaper, much smaller design that threatened to take them out, because the older ventilators had better economic and political base to take them on, bought out the patents, and refused to produce the newer, less profit-margined designs.

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Thought on accelerationism?
Fascist porky on acid or some aspects legit?


its stupid and you should know this by know out of doing the mental math

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South Korea's Moon says Olympics may be chance for North Korea, U.S. talks
Speaking at a ceremony marking the 102nd anniversary of the March 1 Independence Movement Day in Seoul, Moon also said South Korea will work with Japan for the success of the Tokyo Olympics, which could help the two countries recover from the fallout from the coronavirus pandemic.

Kremlin Rejects Research Showing Falling Incomes
A Nielsen survey, published Monday, found 53% of Russian respondents said they were worse off as a result of the crisis — that was twice the level recorded by the same survey in September and above the global average of 46%. “We have different data. We consider the conclusions reached by this publication’s authors to be incorrect,” Kommersant cited him as saying.

Palestinian solidarity group refuses to be silenced after terrorist destination by Israel
THE Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network said that it would not be silenced today after Israeli Defence Minister Benny Gantz designated it as a terrorist organisation. Samidoun said the move was “the latest manifestation of a smear campaign that is intended to silence international support for the Palestinian people and especially the nearly 5,000 Palestinians jailed by the Israeli occupation.”

Court in Israel sentences Palestinian politician Khalida Jarrar to two years in prison
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Exclusive: Biden in no rush to lift Venezuela sanctions, seeks 'serious steps' by Maduro
President Joe Biden’s administration is in “no rush” to lift U.S. sanctions on Venezuela but would consider easing them if President Nicolas Maduro takes confidence-building steps showing he is ready to negotiate seriously with the opposition, a White House official told Reuters.

Marchers Smash Pearl District Windows in Saturday Night ICE Protest
At 8 pm on Feb. 27, over 100 black-clad activists gathered in The Fields Park—at the north edge of the Pearl District, home to some the city's most expensive high-rises and more than a mile from the downtown courthouses where most protests have occurred in the past year.

Fired after organizing, Starbucks baristas turned down a payout and took their bosses to court
Philadelphia baristas TJ Bussiere and Echo Nowakowska believe Starbucks illegally fired them for trying to organize a union. And after months of investigation, lawyers for the federal government thought the workers had a case. Cases such as theirs, which allege an employer has violated a worker’s legal right to organize, are rarely decided in court. Most workers avoid the risk of a long legal battle and settle.

Biden Open to Giving Fewer People Stimulus Checks as 'Weeks' of Delays Loom
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>school shooting


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Folks we live in uhhhhhh society


Emma Goldman 1911: The Tragedy of Woman’s Emancipation
Nevertheless, the position of the working girl is far more natural and human than that of her seemingly more fortunate sister in the more cultured professional walks of life teachers, physicians, lawyers, engineers, etc., who have to make a dignified, proper appearance, while the inner life is growing empty and dead. The narrowness of the existing conception of woman’s independence and emancipation; the dread of love for a man who is not her social equal; the fear that love will rob her of her freedom and independence; the horror that love or the joy of motherhood will only hinder her in the full exercise of her profession–all these together make of the emancipated modern woman a compulsory vestal, before whom life, with its great clarifying sorrows and its deep, entrancing joys, rolls on without touching or gripping her soul. Emancipation, as understood by the majority of its adherents and exponents, is of too narrow a scope to permit the boundless love and ecstasy contained in the deep emotion of the true woman, sweetheart, mother, in freedom. The tragedy of the self-supporting or economically free woman does not lie in too many, but in too few experiences. True, she surpasses her sister of past generations in knowledge of the world and human nature; it is just because of this that she feels deeply the lack of life’s essence, which alone can enrich the human soul, and without which the majority of women have become mere professional automatons.

Corporate Media Parrot FBI Talking Points as More Americans Turn to Encrypted Communication Online
Before he became a household name as the accused spoiler of the 2016 election, James Comey, FBI director under President Barack Obama, was already well-known in tech circles as a crusader against strong encryption. Still smarting from Edward Snowden’s exposure of the US government’s massive and illegal domestic spying operations, Comey grabbed any microphone he could during the waning years of Obama’s tenure to warn Americans that encryption technology was putting us all at grave risk by causing law enforcement to “go dark.” Cryptography is the art of encoding text or other dataPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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What led to the collapse of Keynesian economics in the 1970s in favor of neoliberal Friedman economics?

What caused it's stagnation etc.?
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Porky got tired of letting prole have some of the surplus and took it back.


Simple, Fordism in the west relied upon no competitors of an unequal rank. Ironically, the reason it was able to survive for so long was because of communism. In the west, at the end of WWII, you have a collection of states that have not only similar levels of development, but similar labour and capital relations. So much so, that in Europe you see an economic union without any real detrimental effects. Who were the next level of countries that could compete with that? Oh, the states east of the order-niesse, which luckily for the west, were now all command economies they could not trade with. So the West was able to exist in this position where labour had cards to play against capital, purely because it could produce goods of a quality and quantity that nowhere else in the world could. Then the four asian tigers came. If you look at it as a set of nations industrialising, it would go west, eastern europe, then four asian tigers: however as a result of ML that middle stage was removed. As such fordism in the west, which had been stable 1946-1970 suddenly faced a competitor where the power of labour was far weaker (due to anti-communism, an inherently weak labour movement due to the legacy of prolonged fascist rule, and general statism). It's telling that by 1979, Japan could produce roughly 50% of western europe's total steel output.
And thus, Fordism fell, and neoliberalism rose in its place.


how bout no


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>not planning your economy with a coffee machine


Imagine what the world could have been like if this was around during the USSR and China's market reforms.

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Can everyone post here with different flags -I- WE want to see all of the flags
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like this flag or


go back to your bunker, faggot


I was here first, after you.


The bunker is still there, off you go.


He's not allowed in my bunker

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I just feel so lost right now. Almost everybody that I like hates LGBT+ people and all the liberals, neocons and other Atlanticists are wrapping themselves in the rainbow flag. How has it helped LGBT+ people in Russia, who are now villified as pro-NATO agents and sympathizers? Are gay Yemenis supposed the cheer the gay drone pilot that murdered their families? Are trans Venezuelans supposted to cheer now that trans North Americans can join the imperialist military? Is somebody who just got thrown into homelessness by their parents for coming out supposed to feel better that funds that could have been used to build housing for them were plowed into regime change ops and military boondoggles instead? How can they call themselves the "new civil rights movement" but be pro-empire and pro-austerity? I hate them, I hate their "open society" and "liberal democracy", I don't want them on my side and I would thank them by finding a way to stab them in the back.
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>it said
>posting on a board that actively shits on trannies by allowing and spreading reactionary idpol and equating it to trans people merely existing
gotta have that good faith discussion about how funny le 41 % maymays are, amirite?


Yeah. I think it's dialectical to think about it this way? You find the universal in the particular, and the combinations of which at different stages create higher forms of unity as opposed to atomization.

I think these Icelandic artists, Hatari, "get it." The music and performance is queer anti-capitalism, it's very avant-garde and extreme, and they did a video with a Palestinian queer artist – a stateless person – who is waving a Palestinian flag around and singing about how he won't be erased. It's interesting because it's a direct attack on the pink Zionist stuff where the Israeli state associates itself with liberal, pwogwessive values. "We've got to drop a bomb on this gay guy for gay rights!"

I think Zionism has also become an identity. If you attack it, then you've triggered my Zionist identity or whatever, which obscures the fact that it's machine that destroys people and takes their land. A queer Palestinian doesn't exist in Zionism, is incompatible with it, and is to be destroyed.


>I think Zionism has also become an identity.
Yeah burgers made a big deal about Wonder Woman being played by an IDF soldier lol.


Hatari is really inspiring for me. I don't like their music, but their entire art project gives me strong urges to do something myself. They are on point and I love it.
?? are you new here lol


Moved to >>>/b/14858.

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>Spanish rapper Pablo Hasel's arrest has sparked protests in major cities, with critics calling his prosecution an assault on free speech. The artist was convicted for insulting the monarchy and glorifying terrorism.

>Thousands of protesters took to the streets across Spanish cities on Tuesday evening demanding the release of a rapper arrested by police over a series of tweets in a controversial free speech case.

>Police in riot gear stormed a university 150 kilometers (90 miles) west of Barcelona on Tuesday morning and arrested rapper Pablo Hasel, who had barricaded himself inside the campus to avoid jail.

>Later in the day, around 2,000 people rallied in central Barcelona waving banners and placards that said: "Freedom for Pablo Hasel."

>A handful of protesters also set trash cans on fire, erected street barricades, and threw stones, bottles, and firecrackers at the police, chanting slogans such as "Death to the Spanish regime."

>Video footage on Twitter also showed police charging at protesters hurling objects at them, trying to disperse the crowd, in some cases using batons and foam projectiles.

>Several stores and banks were damaged, and police stations in the Catalan capital were vandalized, with windows smashed and spray-paints on the walls.

>The Catalan regional police Mossos d'Escuadra said on Twitter that protesters burned motorbikes and bins, creating barricades and blocking streets in Barcelona, adding that 14 people had been arrested.

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Favorite Spaniards:
Phineas Fisher. She is famous for hacking spyware companies used by governments, Hacking the catalonian cops, Hacking the Turkish government to donate the money to the YPG and for hacking an Offshore bank, leaking everything in each instance and writing much documentation making hacking easy.

>Phineas Phisher, who has previously claimed responsibility for hacking the notorious cyber-mercenary groups Gamma Group and Hacking Team, claims to be a private individual whose stated goals are anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist, and anti-surveillance. Some suspect Phineas Phisher is a nation-state sponsored hacking group, but there is no way to know.

>The hacking tools used in the 2016 bank heist were off-the-shelf penetration testing tools like PowerShell and Mimikatz. This means that if Phineas Phisher can do it, any number of modestly skilled attackers could as well. This makes the Cayman National attack a case study in how not to secure your networks (or how to rob a bank, depending on your point of view).

Her own article about the bank: https://github.com/Alekseyyy/phineas-philes/blob/master/cayman-english.md
Pic related. It is from her last text.


> Dude give Mexico a try. Spain sucks right now there's nothing to do under the corona regime.
Chile would be the best choice in LatAm – it is safe and also has been taking a huge turn towards popular power since the protests that started in October 2019. It also at least somewhat purged Pinochet's legacy before that.


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Oh look, it's raining.


I haven't heard about much hacktivism since the Anonymous insecure-by-default prime time (unless 420chan admin counts) and am glad to see it still happening, pls share some other active handles to follow (or dump them in the hacktivism thread)


That's from Argentina, but based.

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