/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2883420
>but getting to be a high-flying revolutionary on a level with Lenin
It's a task we must pursue anon, but dont expect enjoyment.

>>2883364
>I don’t even think a higher population would even be good right now until climate change is sorted out
How is an aging population and larger part of the working age population dedicated to caring for the old and infirm going to contribute to the conversion of the world economy into a green sustainable one?

>>2883437
they will go out in the sun and die of heatstroke don't worry (also there won't be that many people who take those jobs in the first place and wages aren't gonna grow,so 1 guy will need to take care of 20 elders by himself for minimum wage)

>>2883437
>How is an aging population and larger part of the working age population dedicated to caring for the old and infirm going to contribute to the conversion of the world economy into a green sustainable one?
The world economy is going to collapse, so that’s not a question I would be worried about.

You have to realize most olds want to die in their giant homes surrounded by their possessions like Pharos of old, it won’t be your responsibility as a young beyond clearing their hoard out and demolishing the house

No struggle but class struggle kys op

>>2883007
Anti-whitism is central to leftism. Same as being pro-trans. Leftists can and will and have dropped everything to preserve these core ideologies. You might not like it but that's how it is.

>>2883116
>pic
that's interesting, so why are all western "marxist" class reductionist (including leftypol), but all have "nuanced" takes on imperialist wars?

>>2883288
>all western "marxist" class reductionist (including leftypol)
LMAO

>>2883288
>class reductionist
digits check out

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Puerto Rico authorizes $2 billion coastal luxury development that activists oppose
Environmentalists decried the approval, which Puerto Rico’s Adjunct Board of the Permit Management Office issued late Thursday. The approval was shared with The Associated Press on Friday. The Defend Cabo Rojo Coalition, which opposes the project, said the people of Cabo Rojo and experts should have had the opportunity to be heard. “Citizen participation is not a favor granted by an agency; it is a fundamental principle of due process and an indispensable guarantee when our natural resources, water, communities, and the future of the municipality are at stake,” it said in a statement to the AP.
https://apnews.com/article/puerto-rico-esencia-cabo-rojo-developers-44d13fdafa22d9ec394ff222426db331

Heatwave scorching western US ups risk of hazardous fire conditions
A heatwave scorching the western US region has elevated the risk of hazardous fire conditions particularly in parts of Oregon and Washington, where low humidity and powerful winds have put officials on alert for wildfire spread.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/01/heatwave-us-west-hazardous-fire-conditions

Columbia University student workers’ union withdraws Israel divestment demand
This withdrawal signifies a major shift in the union’s politics and orientation, as it has devoted itself to Columbia’s pro-Palestinian student movement since the start of Israel’s genocide in Gaza. Over 73,000 people have been killed since Israel began its assault on the enclave after the Hamas-led attacks on southern Israel in October 2023.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/columbia-university-student-workers-union-withdraws-israel-divestment-demand

Farmington Public Schools board trustee under fire over controversial comments
Board Secretary Angie Smith made remarks last Friday at a campaign event for Congresswoman Haley Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Spanish communists: The Ceuta migrant crisis is not an "invasion" but the product of capitalist rivalries
"Between Thursday and Friday, around 50,000 people crossed the border by land and sea from Morocco into Ceuta, thousands of them minors. More than 50 deaths have been reported so far, making this one of the worst humanitarian crises ever witnessed at Spain's borders. By Friday, the overwhelming majority had returned to Morocco. These events can be understood as a means of pressure exerted by the Moroccan regime in the context of Spain-Morocco relations, coinciding with Morocco's increasingly close ties with the U.S.-Israel axis and a new phase of rapprochement between Spain and Algeria. Meanwhile, Spain's coalition government has blamed the situation exclusively on human trafficking networks, deliberately avoiding any connection between what has occurred and the diplomatic, political, commercial and military relations shaping the region. In response to the events in Ceuta, which the most reactionary sectors have gone so far as to describe as an "invasion," we denounce the fact that such situations are made possible by the conditions endured by broad sections of the Moroccan people, whose hardship can easily be manipulated and exploited in the disputes between capitalist governments and states.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/08/spanish-communists-ceuta-migrant-crisis-is-not-an-invasion-but-product-of-capitalist-rivalries_01726532161.html

The Liberal Capture of Anarchism - The Polar Blast (2025)
For the past few years, a peculiar current has swept through parts of the anarchist milieu, particularly those corners closest to academia, the NGO apparatus, and the broad “social justice” ecosystems of the liberal left. It goes something like this: “we don’t live in revolutionary times”. The line is always delivered with a kind of weary resignation, as if the speaker has grown too sophisticated, too worldly, too traumatised or too professional to still believe in any of the old principles. We are told that anarchists cannot reject electoralism, because that would be “dogmatic” or “purist.” We cannot maintain a principled anti-militarism in the face of imperial alignments and geopolitical Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Idk if you'll post more, but thank you news anon! ♥️

>>2882702
Not related to anything in the thread but what do you mean by this exactly? I feel like I'm missing some context.

>>2882710
operation reality was a sharty operation where they went irl and put up sharty related images, or just wrote their link.

Retards. Next!

>>2882702
Do this

Moved to >>>/siberia/810855.

>>2863953
Colonialists will attempt to divide and conquer a subject population based on pre-existing divisions as well as newly formed and sometimes deliberately contrived divisions. This will cause civil strife in the subject population who are forced to unite into a national liberation movement, causing a national identity to form. The national identity is then retconned as this eternal thing that has always existed, and the colonial period is re-written as a period of unusual internal division caused by external conquerors.

>>2863953
>While I'm thinking primarily about South Asia, the exact same narratives appear is most third world societies.
It's an interesting thing and probably goes to how history is often reinterpreted by people later in a way to serve present-day political purposes. In this case it's modern state building and part of that is creating a flag for a nation and defining who "we" are through some kind of story we tell ourselves (and enforced quasi-covertly with weapons) about our ancestral origins or an unfolding and beautiful fulfillment of providence and realization of freedom. That's probably just some shit people made up to produce a patriotic or loyal population, although the governments are real. That's the state.

>>2882243
I was referring to the post-Aurangzeb period, when the Mughal Empire rapidly lost its territory over the course of more than 150 years. That's the absurdity I was talking about. The large-border version of the empire that Indian nationalists often post about only lasted for around 20 years and its longer territorial extent was largely limited to central India.

>>2863953
You are right about the "divide and conquer" narrative, but you are introducing an equally false narrative that is commonly put forth in regards to the Aztecs and other Native Americans. The reality of empires is more about progressive conquering just like in the map painter games or whatever. You conquer one kingdom, tribe, whatever, you add them to your forces, then the next one, and the next one. That is how empires become so strong by snowballing their forces. Same with Greeks or Rome or any empire that ever existed. On that note too, I think the colonial narrative is a bit strange how it tries to make it seem that what these later empires did is somehow different or unique compared to what every empire did since antiquity and the same thing happened to all of those places by the Romans and etc. Centuries before.

>>2882202
>Indian/Pak/Bengali nationalists create a mythology of a unified nation where differences don't exist or get subsumed into a majority
to be fair to them,that's how EVENTUALLY a nation ends up existing,it's by beating your minorities enough until they all merge to beat up their oppressors (creating a new nationalist myth),or they abandon their peculiarities after multiple generations because enough beatings were administrated that the majority is now using it,so it's more convenient to learn the national language rather than both it and your local dialect

"America bad" is the slogan of the real movement, in all corners of the world that very sentiment is understood vigorously and deeply by the working masses. Anyone whining about it, or any variation of it, is a reactionary and a chauvinist through and through

as with all threads like this OP is burger until proven otherwise

Anti-Americanism is better when it's creative and exaggerates features of the country, like some grotesque dollar $$$ empire that builds things out of proportion and worships war and mutant freak football players.

>>2882311
We already have a general to contain bullshit like this.

>>2882317
Correct.

The Soviet union never had an shred of Cultural National Autonomy, evidenced by the fact that the Soviet State was dissolved unilaterally by the Russians, proving centralized authority was in Moscow the whole time. Lenin and Stalin would've shot you

>>2867855
You are regurgitating both the Western Neoliberal Capitalist Anti-Communist and Duginist Eurasianist Nazbol Ultra-Reactionary Propaganda that the USSR was just the “Russian Empire with Red paint”, in reality the USSR was created by Lenin as an embryonic Global Socialist Federation in which every Nation that had a successful Communist Revolution was going to join as an SSR, and Russians did not dominate the CPSU until after the Revisionist Social Fascist Social Imperialist Khrushchevite Capitalist Roader Coup assassinated/poisoned Stalin and purged the CPSU of all Real Marxist-Leninists, and replaced them with Great Russian Chauvinists, as Lenin was of Turkic, Mongolian, Jewish, Swedish and German ancestry and Stalin was Georgian, with the majority of CPSU members being Non-Russian until 1953, and you refuse to accept the fact that Lenin and Stalin gave every Nation/Ethnic group a SSR or ASSR in the USSR, also why do you refuse to state your opinion of my Dialectical Materialist Marxist-Leninist-Maoist solution (Forcing all Women to have extremely Short Hair, No Dresses/Skirts, No Makeup/lipstick, and to wear Mandatory Mao Suits) to eliminate Bourgeois Femininity and replace it with Proletarian Masculinity in the Worldwide Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in the future Global USSR, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲🤔?

>>2545468 (OP)
Bump, this thread is my Dialectical Materialist Marxist-Leninist-Maoist masterpiece and I cannot let it die yet, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲!

Communisms end goal is amalgamation of nations and cultures

Splitting the workers up along national cultural lines is fascism

King lear is a fascist not a communist

>>2881407
As I explained a couple weeks ago at >>2867659
, by your Infantile Postmodern Foucauldian Hippie Commune Anarchist definition both Lenin and Stalin would be considered “Fascists”, as Lenin and Stalin gave every major Nation/Ethnic group an SSR, and every minor Nation/Ethnic group an ASSR in the IRL USSR, with all borders drawn on Ethno-Linguistic lines according to the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination for all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union , also what do think about my Dialectical Materialist Marxist-Leninist-Maoist solution (Forcing all Women to have extremely Short Hair, No Dresses/Skirts, No Makeup/lipstick, and to wear Mandatory Mao Suits) to eliminate Bourgeois Femininity and replace it with Proletarian Masculinity in the Worldwide Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in the future Global USSR, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲🤔?

>>2868724
>I am quoting Marx directly
The point isn't that you are quoting Marx somewhere. You are not quoting Marx in your formula, nor is your formula a paraphrase of Marx.
>And I add that LP is labour in potential
Well duh. Labor power, since it is a potential, cannot be a concrete actually happening activity, which is what you were saying in your formula, contra Marx. Do you want to modify the formula?

>>2870056
>You are not quoting Marx in your formula
Yes I am. Marx:
<all labour is, speaking physiologically, an expenditure of human labour power
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm
Me:
<Labour-Power = Concrete + Abstract Labour
Where is the contradiction?

There is more wrong with your post: You claim exchange value to be simply the quantity of value. But Marx distinguishes values and exchange values as giving different ratios between products in the third volume of Capital. Exchange value is the distorted measuring stick of value that people perceive in the capitalist market economy. Value itself is not directly observed by the market participants.
>the longer one works, the greater the value of a commodity, but the more productive [intense] the labour, the less the value per commodity.
You take terms like "productivity" and pair these terms with specific zoom levels of the economy, unlike Marx. You project this assumption while you over-generalize from misinterpreted text snippets.
>a greater product is created with the power-loom, or what Marx describes as double the product, or half the value
It is only half the value because in this specific scenario Marx assumes the advanced production technique to be already the most common method to be found if one traces the origin of this or that unit of the product. The value of the product goes down because it is a macro-level change. Consider this in contrast: While an improvement in production technique is still limited to a particular site that only produces a small fraction of the quantity of the product in question, it is (for now) a micro-level change and as such constitutes an increase in value output at that site.

>>2863063 marx never ever used the words "labor theory of value" anywhere in all 3 volumes of capital to describe his theory of value nor does he put it up against "subjective theory of value." this is a construction of debatebros in the 21st century. marx's theory of value contains both subjective and objective elements. the subjective element is called use value. an object has use value if enough humans want it to justify manufacturing it. this is also related to demand. the objective element is called exchange value. an object has exchange value if it requires labor time to bring to market. this includes raw materials and natural resources. even an apple which falls from a tree has to be picked up and carried to a market place. this is also related to supply. if something has both use value (a rate of demand determined by widespread human desires or needs) and exchange value (a rate of supply determined by average labor time), and is created for the purpose of being sold, it is a commodity. If it is lacking one or another, it is not a commodity. This is crucial to know because marx's theory of value is not about random things like the mona lisa, or things which nobody wants like mud pies. It is about commodities. Another important thing is price versus value. Price deviates from value according to non-production factors: Currency hegemony, Currency devaluation, Scarcity, monopoly, monopsony, government expropriation, theft, war etc. Value on the other hand is only looking at the factors of production. It is not trying to say anything about the final market price. So when Marx says that the value of a commodity is its socially necessary labor time, he is not talking about the price. He is only pointing out the tug of war between profit and wages which occurs in the production process, and how that results in class conflict and class struggle between the bourgeoisie and proletariat, since the bourgeoisie own the means of production, and it is in the bourgeoisie's interests to lower wages and increase profit, not just for their own personal consumption of mansions and yachts, but also so that they have more money with which to expand production, and buy more means of production, and buy more labor power, and buy more raw materials.

How would that even be possible?