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How exactly should we react when a cultural icon (or person with a decent amount of cultural significance) is revealed to be a Zionist?

I know there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism, but seeing cultural figures be openly pro-Zionism especially when the Zionist entity is engaged in an overt genocide and mass-starvation is honestly disgusting. I was told that the main purpose of BDS isn’t to “crash” the Zionist entity’s economy but rather to expose how engulfed modern culture is in Zionism, like when you realize boycotting is near impossible because entire industries have ties to the Zionist entity such as the music and film industries.

Soft power is a lot more powerful than we realize and even using a term like “Israeli salad” or working with a Zionist settler normalizes Zionist colonialism and genocide. What must we do to end this? And how should we treat notable figures who are pro-Zionist given that they normalize Zionism and manufacture consent for genocide at all times?
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>enjoy media from someone
>they turn out to be a zionist
>divert my attention from their stuff to the many other things I enjoy, signal boost similar media to displace it.
Anything beyond that is parasocial.

>>2439734
Referring to “Israel” as a real place is Zionism.

>>2440412
Okay, and?

>>2440412
Define "Zionism".

Better this time, you picked an artist I've listened to once, for slightly over 30 seconds
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I find it funny how CUCKshott says le gay males are all bourgeois because they don't have children while not applying the same logic to lesbians because he jerks off to lesbian porn
What a fucking hack, a typical homophobic boomer(Rule 14c - To ensure a basic level of quality, topics or posts will not be tolerated when contributions are not conductive to well-intentioned discussion.)
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>>2440297
Did op get banned? Op, are you banned?

>>2441036

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/350573206_Class_Demography_and_Gay_Politics_in_the_West

I've briefly read his text about 'gay politics' and all his sources (which exclaim that the avg. gay male receives 12% more money than straight one in the UK & gay males are less likely to raise children ) denotes to his final exclaim that the gay male spend lesser portions of his money to raise children. ( and this is le bad )

Before this exclaim, he uses a mathematical formula ( which confused me a little tbh ) for the rate of profit, which is
rate of profit = total profit / capital stock

Then he describes total profit P = (1-w) * N , where N is the working population and (1-w) is the fraction of profit made per working person ( 1 - his wage share )

He also uses more formulas like that but to be honest, it made me a little confused. His formula for the growth of the capital stock does not include population P , so at the end he says that population increase will increase the profit rate.

So , he claims that if the growth of the capital stock exceeds the rate of growth in total profit, the profit rates will decrease in a capitalist market economy. Resulting lesser investments, lesser employment etc. with using Japanese stagnation and crisis (in 2008s as i recall) as an example.

Idk if it's really a critique of how gays raise less children and use less money for children or the market economy in general, but he finishes his text with basically saying " we should increase our population if we want a steady rate of growth in profit, and when gays were opressed the population growth rate was higher cuz they would marry women"

>>2441145 (me)
>His formula for the growth of the capital stock does not include population P

I've meant population N , sry.

>>2441145
Did Cockshott explain why we should support growing the rate of profit? If anything those numbers say we should promote homosexuality.

>>2442968
>back in the pile!



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Gaza City's residents defy Israel's 'Gideon's Chariots 2' assault, refuse to be displaced
the reaction from civilians in Gaza City has been remarkably unified. Rather than moving south, where conditions are already dire, families are choosing to remain in their homes even if those homes are now cracked walls and rubble. In the Sabra neighbourhood, where tanks and airstrikes have already scarred the streets, 32-year-old Ahmed Hamas leaned on the remains of his bombed house. His voice was steady but was clearly exhausted. "They told us to leave and go south, but where do we go?" he asked TNA. "There is no space left. Schools are overflowing, hospitals are overcrowded, and we are exhausted from moving repeatedly. Death follows us, whether in the north or the south."
https://www.newarab.com/news/gaza-citys-residents-defy-israels-gideons-chariots-2-attack

Israel steps up Gaza bombing as it signals ceasefire deal rejection
Meanwhile, Israeli officials have signalled the rejection of a ceasefire proposal that Hamas accepted earlier this week. Israeli government spokesman David Mencer told the BBC in an interview that they were not interested in "partial deals". "Things have changed now. The prime minister has laid out a plan for the future of Gaza," Mencer added.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-steps-assault-north-gaza-it-mulls-possible-ceasefire-rejection

Confrontation between Tunisia’s General Union, President Saied escalates
The union called for a protest against what it says are government attempts to undermine workers’ rights, and the use of intimidation to curb strikes, referring to a three-day UGTT transport strike at the end of July.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/20/confrontation-between-tunisias-general-union-president-saied-escalates
https://archive.ph/gyutT

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CP of Venezuela, 88 years after the First National Conference of the PCV: We continue to stand up with class consciousness and revolutionary dignity
Today, as yesterday, we true Venezuelan communists face the immense challenge that was taken up 88 years ago by that generation of forgers and builders. It is not a question of starting over, but of identifying and learning from the historical experience contained in our struggles, from the moral and ethical lessons present in the heroic example of those first communists, which should strengthen us for the new times and struggles ahead. This implies strengthening the link between our cells and the militancy with the social organizations of the people, especially those that fight for just rights and challenge the power of the bourgeois state, its authoritarian government, and its repressive apparatus; in addition to promoting permanent collective study and reflection, relying on the works of our classics for the scientific analysis of reality and the problems we face as exploited, excluded, and persecuted. In short, it is a matter of returning to social life fully armed ideologically and politically with the strength of our history, our organizational forms, and our practices of struggle, forged over nearly a century of existence. This legacy, the inalienable heritage of the PCV-DIGNIDAD, is at the service of workers and the people in their struggle to overcome the backwardness of dependent Venezuelan capitalism and its collapsed model of rentier accumulation. The Venezuelan people are not condemned to endure the inhuman conditions of dependent capitalism or the renewed and crueler forms of economic exploitation based on neoliberalism, which privatizes resources that belong to the entire nation. Nor should they submit to the domination of a corrupt, inept, and authoritarian bureaucratic elite that exploits power for its own benefit, violating rights and freedoms enshrined in the Constitution and laws, and dragging the country toward a dangerous abyss.
http://www.solidnet.org/article/CP-of-Venezuela-88-years-after-the-First-National-Conference-of-the-PCV-We-continue-to-stand-up-with-class-consciousness-and-revolutionary-dignity/

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thanks news anon

common news anon W

Thanks News Anon

tybna



 

I'm working on a project for the Marxists Internet Archive and Hathitrust won't let me download more than one page at a time "if I'm not affiliated with a member institution". I think most college students or teachers should have access. For short articles I'm willing to just stitch the pages back together, but these ones I've found are long enough I'd like some help. They're sourced from this link:

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31970026988078&seq=199&q1=walling

And the desired articles are:

Who Gets America’s Wealth?; page 69-82

New Income and Inheritance Taxes for the United States; 159-173

The Conference Speakers; 177, 188-201

Socialists and the Problems of War symposium; 309, 313-333

Thanks!

Might want to stick this in >>>/edu/

It'll probably get lost amongst all the activity here on leftypol, unless with some luck somebody turns up to help

Good luck you got this chief

>>2440449
I had thought about that, but /edu/ seems dead as dirt. The threads I've started never got more than one or two replies, even if I led with an effortpost.

To clarify the task here: it should be pretty easy to anyone with a student email. Just click "download" in the left tab, then under "range" punch in the numbers I've provided. Once it serves you the PDF post it here (I can separate the articles myself).

Case closed: I got them! There's a tool I recommend called HathiDownloadHelper that let me get them. It seems to work by downloading page-by-page and automatically sticking them together; therefore it's slow as molasses but one overnight download later I've got what I need.



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So, lately I was wondering about free will, the idea that we somehow have total free will over our behavior sounds kind of absurd to me in some sense, be either genetics (you don't choose your genes) or environment (you don't choose your enviroment which you grow up), both don't let much of choose for the person, that how truly free are we? What's the LeftyPol opinions of the question of free will and the implications to leftist policies?
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>>2435777
>Amateur gnosticism take. I would never be so chalice as to blasphemy God comparing him to some petty made up authority like an admin.
You clearly have not read the bible. Stop blaming others for having a "blasphemous" view of god when he is shown to be such in the book authorized by him.

>Everything you think, feel, and choose comes from causes you didn’t choose.

<Your genetics shaped your personality.


>Your upbringing and environment shaped your values and beliefs.


<Even in the moment of “choosing,” your brain is just reacting to prior brain states and outside influences.


>So when you decide something, it feels free, but in reality, that decision was determined by a chain of causes stretching back before you were born.


<Free will, in the sense of being able to choose independently of those causes, doesn’t really exist.

>>2437295
no the point is more that things being as they are you cannot help but judge people and yourself as agential. if anything the copium is to think that you can effectively and consistently percieve the world as deterministic.

>>2437127
That's fair
>>2437975
You assume I say angel or demon as a strictly black and white morality instead of reading between the lines of nuance. Higher and lower dimensions just means that. To us it may as well be called evil though as do you wanna be angry or sad all the time? Even sometimes? It has purpose sure but so does fire. Doesn't mean you wanna be on fire.
>>2438099
It literally doesn't. Did you read the Bible? Its all allegorical

>>2438159
>no the point is more that things being as they are you cannot help but judge people and yourself as agential. if anything the copium is to think that you can effectively and consistently percieve the world as deterministic.
skill issue



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>>2438907
This is the same song and dance the liberal Zionists do every time. Under the same broad slogan:

>The government of X is threatening Israel's existence by going too hard for the goals that we share.

>We are the good Israelis who do and believe 90% as the most deranged Kahanist.
>Focus on us as it is our struggle, not the Palestinian's or any other victim of US imperialism by proxy of Israel

>>2440036 (me)
And they always do this after the deed is done, to provide cover for it. While having otherwise supported the broad strokes of the Zionist project all along.

>>2440036
Bring them back Bibi!!


>>2440036
So like the liberal protests of 1910s Russia



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>>2440180
Trump goons

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>>2440174
the worst porkies always get richer during crashes. it's just a liquidation of the middle strata. You might say "good" and that's fine, just keep in mind that the newly proletarianized petty bourgeoisie need to be reeducated, and not just assumed to be new allies

>>2440095
>the worst bourgeois dictatorship in human history is doing SEOs to keep up with china, this is communism
not quite but nice enthusaism

>>2440179
i hate genpol not generations because I think in terms of systems and not in terms of scapegoats

>>2440020
That's odd I never see zoomers and millennials beefing over anything that actually matters, it quite literally started out as boomers whining about millennials and still not realizing the oldest ones are in their 40s now, because they don't know what a zoomer is.



 

I grow to hate FDR more and more everyday. There was so much damn potential and this socdem scumbag ruined everything. FDR singlehandedly set back the course of world history one hundred years.
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>>2439851
post the scroll
i have indirectly contributed to it by my many deng misquote baits on here

don't hate FDR for destroying potential, hate earl browder for cooperating with the dems and william foster for collaborating with the FBI during the peak of the red scare to fuck over some trotskyists in your party

>>2439741
>and was mostly defeated by the Chinese
Bro Japan raped China

>>2439701
He was a socdem who succeded im his mission, saving capitalism in the long term.

>>2440146
Only because Chiang's strategy was to get the US to bail it out. If the Americans weren't coming, and Chiang had his back to the wall, the Japanese would have run out of ammo.



 

https://exiledonline.com/the-day-americas-empire-died/all/1/
>Tskhinvali, South Ossetia — On the sunny afternoon of August 14, a Russian army colonel named Igor Konashenko is standing triumphantly at a street corner at the northern edge of Tskhinvali, the capital of South Ossetia, his forearm bandaged from a minor battle injury. The spot marks the furthest point of the Georgian army’s advance before it was summarily crushed by the Russians a few days earlier. “Twelve Georgian battalions invaded Tskhinvali, backed by columns of tanks, armored personal carriers, jets, and helicopters,” he says, happily waving at the wreckage, craters, and bombed-out buildings around us. “You see how well they fought, with all their great American training — they abandoned their tanks in the heat of the battle and fled.”
>Konashenko pulls a green compass out of his shirt pocket and opens it. It’s a U.S. military model. “This is a little trophy — a gift from one of my soldiers,” he says. “Everything that the Georgians left behind, I mean everything, was American. All the guns, grenades, uniforms, boots, food rations — they just left it all. Our boys stuffed themselves on the food,” he adds slyly. “It was tasty.” The booty, according to Konashenko, also included 65 intact tanks outfitted with the latest NATO and American (as well as Israeli) technology.
>Technically, we are standing within the borders of Georgia, which over the last five years has gone from being an ally to the United States to a neocon proxy regime. But there are no Georgians to be seen in this breakaway region — not unless you count the bloated corpses still lying in the dirt roads. Most of the 70,000 or so people who live in South Ossetia never liked the idea of being part of Georgia. During the violent land scramble that occurred after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the South Ossetians found themselves cut off from their ethnic kin in North Ossetia, which remained part of Russia. The Russians, who’ve had a small peacekeeping force here since 1992, managed to keep the brewing conflicts on ice for the last 15 years. But in the meantime, the positions of everyone involved hardened. The Georgians weren’t happy about the idea of losing a big chunk of territory. The Ossetians, an ethnic Persian tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>published 2008
aged like milk. russia got btfo in ukraine. america is still the most powerful country on earth.

>>2438620
>russia got btfo in ukraine.
it's been a real grind but I think russia won tbh

>>2438620
War's not over yet but Russia is winning. They produce more strike drones in a day as America produces patriot missiles in a month

george lucas

star wars

>>2438620
>russia got btfo in ukraine. america is still the most powerful country on earth.
Completely delulu. Russia is producing more military equipment than all of NATO combined despite having an economy ostensibly about the size of Italy's. This is why Joseph Borrell whined that Europe had become dependent on China for cheap commodities, Russia for cheap energy, and America for military defense. America basically carries the entirety of NATO on its back, though that's somewhat changing with Europeans finally increasing their defense spending for the first time since WW2. But they still outsourced all production to the "2nd world" countries China and Russia so they're fucked.



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>It is in the working class‘ interest to overthrow capitalism and establish socialism
is actually a normative statement disguised as a descriptive statement. It arrogantly elevates a Marxist attitude to a matter of fact. The working class has through their behavior regularly shown that they are fine with capitalism as long as there are enough goodies for them (hence why Westerners at best want social democracy while a desire for socialism has been a tiny outlier). Even in times of crisis this is the case. The rise in socialism is therefore an anomaly and not the class interest of the working class that is somehow innate to these particular class relations.

>Oh, but socialism affords worker control, and worker democracy, and guarantees everyone‘s base needs are met!

And again, who says every worker wants that? Not everyone wants to partake in the mental labor of organizing the economy, perhaps not even a business, not everyone wants every schmuck to have a say in organizing either, and not everyone believes that everyone is entitled to base needs, as cruel as that may sound. This isn‘t my opinion, but many people don‘t think that way and at some point you have to take overwhelming historic precedent into account and acknowledging that what you’ve claimed doesn‘t line up with observations. So the question becomes, will you adjust to observations that have repeatedly contradicted your theory (science) or stick to your guns (ideology)?
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>>2439898
During October 1899, he worked as a meteorologist at the Tiflis observatory (Deutscher 1966, p. 54; Conquest 1991, p. 27; Service 2004, pp. 43–44; Montefiore 2007, p. 76; Kotkin 2014, pp. 47–48.)

Rothschild refinery storehouse, where he co-organised two workers' strikes. (Montefiore 2007, pp. 90–93; Kotkin 2014, p. 51; Khlevniuk 2015, pp. 22–23.)

These are anti-Stalin sources btw who would be highly motivated to say he wasn't working class, yet even they say he was working class. So if that does not satisfy you, I do not know what will.

The idea stated in this post >>2439893 that Stalin went from seminary school to robbing banks is completely ludicrous. He left seminary in 1899 and only partook in one bank robbery that we know of in 1907, the Tiflis bank robbery, where he played a mostly auxiliary role, standing off to the side and phoning Lenin when the job was complete. It was his friend Kamo who actually partook in the direct action of the robbery.

>>2439893
Funny how people always just say anything about Stalin because they resent him so much. "Stalin never worked a day in his life" how dumb do you have to be to just believe that? It's ludicrous on the face of it

>>2439907
he was an intellectual, not a prole
>>2439904
>anti-stalin sources would be motivated to say he wasnt working class
why? what is virtuous about being a wage slave?
>meteorologist
<In this position, he worked during the night for a wage of twenty roubles a month.[80] The position entailed little work, and allowed him to read while on duty.[81] According to Robert Service, this was Stalin's "only period of sustained employment until after the October Revolution".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_of_Joseph_Stalin
>>2439903
>Beso insisted that Josef should become a cobbler like himself, but young Stalin was more interested in reading. His mother Ekaterine saw young Josef’s potential and tried to do everything she could to make sure that Josef would be well-educated, hoping that one day her beloved son would become a priest.
he was an intellectual, not a labourer. God even intervenes on this occasion:
>When Stalin entered an Orthodox seminary in Tbilisi, his father tried to kidnap him from school to train him as a cobbler by force, but his mother was always there to help her son.
and he only organised a strike, but never worked there:
>They met for the last time in May 1901, when Stalin was organizing a strike in the Adelkhanov shoe factory where his father worked. He was furious that his son was organizing strikes instead of learning a trade as he wished.
his father still lamenting.



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