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This book was written for a primarily white audience and throughout it, an idea that white Americans or white westerners tend to struggle in social settings in general stuck out to me. This wasn’t explicit, but a lot of the problems the author complained about did follow the patterns of what I’d expect of someone with generally poor social skills:
• getting defensive over racism or speculated of it instead of calmly apologizing or recognizing that youre harming others (this latter carries over to non racial conversations)
• actively denying the lived experiences of others of colour when presented with consistent verbal reports from them
• needing to be told by people of colour about their issues with American racism instead of being able to perceive them firsthand (I’m concerned that this carries over into not being able to tell when one is harming others in white westerner communities)
• excusing blatantly or obviously racist (obvious as in even the person watching can tell without failure that that behaviour is racist) behaviour from other white Americans instead of just calling out that behaviour as inappropriate and asking for its cessation (that makes me question if other inappropriate behaviours also aren’t questioned)

These are some of the points that came up. If you can, please leave some responses on your experiences as or around white American or white westerners so I can get a better understanding if these aspects of social maladjustment are just my observations or realized by others
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>>2765556
>jesus fucking christ, do you realize what a conditioned obedient doormat you sound like right now? how can you even call yourself a leftist/marxist/whatever when you're such a fucking company boy?
At least I'm employed. Lol.

>>2765557
>At least I'm employed. Lol.

you certainly are, you're so employed that even when you are not at work you still think and behave like a company boy. enslaved might be a better word for it than employed tbqh.

>>2765562
Some day you might leave mommy's basement and you'll get what I was talking about.

>>2765369
>i am white and i am a racist and i have racist thoughts about non-white people. i don't really have any excuse for it
I think you can acknowledge it and then make allowances that you have those biases so it doesn't screw up your thinking, rather than pretending that you're a perfect snowflake like the kind of people you're talking about yeah. If it's not racism it might be something else like transphobia or just plain nationalism and you just have a grudge against a certain nation even if you deny you have those feelings. You might hate and fear Russia, are jealous and envious of America, or despise Jews or Hindus, or are afraid of the Islamic horde.

>>2765467
>i think wanting to be liked by everyone is not a realistic goal and it is not healthy to think that way, i think learning and accepting the fact that you can't be everyone's friend and that you're not really that important to the world is an important milestone of emotional maturity.
I agree with that. I was saying it already, but I think a lot of problems in groups happen because of interpersonal conflict, ego, competitive status seeking and other pathological weird stuff that goes on between people, and then other things revolve around that. Like people pulling the privilege card. I've seen people in left-wing groups do this a few times, and also just in social groups. I didn't think it was ever that common, but it was more often the case that I was thinking, this person is playing some kind of social game.

The biggest I've ever seen someone blow up and try to cancel people for transphobia (which wasn't at all justified) in a left-wing group was a person who identified as queer in a highly political way, but didn't seem to be in any process of transition at all. Pretty much every actual trans person I've met has been really chill. But this person wasn't chill at all, and also didn't appear to be trans, and also wore hammer and sickle earrings. It was very strange. But the person who really got it in the neck was trying to be like "that's not what I meant at all" and that only made it worse.

It's weird to talk about it too because when I've encountered this stuff, it's so hyper-specific and Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2765566

i'm an independent contractor and i live on my own and i don't have a boss or an hr department to answer to. you're the one who spends most of your life cooped up in a building being told what to do by an authority figure, only in your case the basement is an office and the mommy is your boss.



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In effort to defend their epstein lies and behaviors, euroamerikans, like israelis, often say they are not colonizers. Leninless Reddit revisionist cry that this scientific socialist understanding is "idpol." They are wrong. They defy scientific socialism. Lenin's Teachings swiftly refute their lies.
>[T]here is the tendency of the bourgeoisie and the opportunists to convert a handful of very rich and privileged nations into 'eternal' parasites on the body of the rest of mankind, to 'rest on the laurels' of the exploitation of Negroes, Indians, etc., keeping them in subjection with the aid of excellent weapons of extermination provided by modern militarism. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/oct/x01.htm
Every single euroamerikan is a parasite because Lenin said so.
>300-400 million out of 1,600 are oppressors https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1915/ni-misc/notes-nations.htm
Here, Lenin use 1910 census and deduct all non-euroamerikans as method to calculate demographics of exploited and exploiter in imperialism. See picrel.
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>>2765674
Don't forget Canadians and Mexicans. They're just as guilty.

>>2765791
t. swarthoid

i made the meme in OP to use against someone defending ICE, but seeing this schizo repost it over and over again is so depressing lol

>>2766135
I have become death destroyer of worlds over here

btw you think it is a coincidence they call it FULLY AUTOMATED communism?

take efficency to its total logcial conclusion. the result is the matrix pod.



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I have noticed that many of my comrades receive push-back, both from organic voices and from deliberate, planted ones typically directed at our language, our rhetoric, and the concepts we work with that extend beyond what is considered acceptable within mainstream society. We operate outside the bounds of liberal civility between class and political opponents. We step beyond moralism and speak in terms of power, power that stands in opposition to existing institutions, with the aim of toppling them, not entering them.

One example is my comrade's statement that reactionary movements are not equal to ours, and therefore do not deserve honest conversation or platforms; they deserve attack on all fronts, physical or otherwise. Some people take issue with this, which has always confused me. I cannot speak for the other JPAs, but I am now realizing in my experience this militant tendency is far from the norm within the broader left, and the moment they're done being threatened by someone they aren't willing to engage with, they drop the support. In fact, the militant edge of the movement has often been pushed to the edge by leftist counter‑insurgents. Over the years, militant praxis has frequently dictated the pace of broader left politics, shaping the topics, the framing, the urgency. Yet the largest base of the left remains reformist, and not only pacifists, but PASSIVE, which is a big difference. These modern leftists aren't pacifists, because they would call the workers who threw bolts into the gears of machinery violent; that is counter-insurgency. That reformist majority vigorously critiques, attacks, and slanders anything it perceives as ultra‑left, overly militant, or brash. They do not merely abandon militants in times of repression; that would be too abstract of a description of what happens. The reality is that they exist to enable that repression, through the very way they behave within movements and the language of their critiques. The counter‑insurgency role of the left fills many functions, and this is one. Another is the continuous capture and containment of revolutionary energy, funneling it back into the DNC or other bourgeoisie avenues.

This is the role most of you leftists who are counter insurgency'd up by your captured revisionist/reformist orgs end up serving, whether consciously or not you exist as a form of counter insurgency. The position is inherently controlled opposition, and counter-revolutionary. You move for socPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>Leftist Counter-Insurgents
What about them?

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>>2765514

Read deeper. This isn't about socialist states crushing anti-communist insurgencies. It's about the organized left's actual role in Western counter‑insurgency, right here, right now. Like in this picture, a snitch from a "Marxist-Leninist" organization screams "Agitators, right here!" as he points out multiple individuals they wish to de-mask. Federal behavior.

You might say there's no open insurgency. True. But modern counterinsurgency is preventive and far more sophisticated than even 50 years ago. It wages a counter-insurgency intended to never allow militancy to ever take root in class / anti-imperialist struggles, let alone an actual large-scale insurgency.

>>2762980

>>black Bloc tactics are criminal, hyper‑masculine, mob violence that turns humans into beasts.


lmfao what the fuck. I looked up the night that had Chris Hedges buttmad after reading some archived articles on telegraph…. seems like a bit of an exaggeration? Beasts? So not willfully getting beat by the actual violent beasts means you are a rabid masculine furry? what makes Greek leftists immune from being bestial when engaging in these tactics or is chris just not concerned with bestial communists if they aren't within American borders? like not my problem, let the beasts stay contained to the south EU, but far away from the civilized USA and UK. it gives off colonial vibes tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVLc3MmAT0A

Okay uygha, and?

Reformists gonna reform, we know that already. What are you gonna do about it? How is your militant tendency going to organize and mobilize millions of workers, soldiers, etc. to overcome reformism? How do you respond tactically to this issue, rather than whining like a liberal about how the other side isn't playing fair?

>>2765658
>>How do you respond tactically to this issue

This is a good and necessary question. Let me try to answer.

First, you have to interact within their organizations, study them, and develop conclusions that are much more detailed and specific to your local terrain. You can organize affinity with comrades and attempt to covertly capture their members, undermine their counter‑insurgency functions, and if you get skilled enough, you might end up with multiple proxy individuals in multiple chapters doing this work. You might gain the ability to split organizations, fracturing them even if only partially. You attack them dishonestly with psychological harassment and systematic, anonymous, bad‑faith critique. Then, without anonymity, you hammer their positions with materialism, shattering the illusions they put forward and showing their base and potential base, the light. The next front is physical coercion. You drive them out of protest spaces, wreck their events, hijack their demonstrations, and make them visibly act as supporters of the imperialist state through physical confrontation, shattering their illusions while also physically intimidating their most dedicated base.



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What are you guys opinion on queer anarchism?
I think I am something like this.

Pic related is a place in my hometown (Curitiba - Brazil) that I would totally make as the headquarter of my movement.
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>>2764802
Achei a casa adorável, me amarro nessa arquitetura eclética. Ela tem já algum histórico de ocupação militante ou tu a escolheu por causa da cor?
>>2765856
I have a problem with solarpunk. The ideas are cool, but somehow the predominant aesthetic is the lamest of all these somethingpunk genres. It's like you fused cottagecore with frutiger aero corporate plastic slop and the result was then vomited up by those AIs that mimic Studio Ghibli art.
What's missing is the dust, the insects, the imperfections in the buildings through which nature crawls, and most importantly, the vestigial ruins of the old society from which their utopia emerged.

>>2765901
Não sei a história dessa casa especificamente, mas ela fica numa área jovem/punk/artística da minha cidade, onde tem muitos bares "de esquerda".

>>2765901
>It's like you fused cottagecore with frutiger aero corporate plastic slop and the result was then vomited up by those AIs that mimic Studio Ghibli art.
It’s definitely too agrarian, and the tech doesn’t look right either.
>and most importantly, the vestigial ruins of the old society from which their utopia emerged
And the industry. And the explanation for how such a society would deal with climate change.

>>2765919
it looks like a nice place to live, but yeah, I think solarpunk is "cottagecore without the conservatism

>>2764802
Sounds gay. Movements should always be inclusive with focus on united class enemy.



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I want the expansion of immigration and the ruin of the imperial middle-class.

https://www.marxists.org/subject/economy/authors/pe/pe-ch02.htm

> The mass of [the middle-class] formed the basis of the military power of [migrant]-owning society. They served in the armed forces and bore on their shoulders the main burden of taxes essential for conducting war. But as a result of the competition of large-scale production based on cheap [migrant] labour, and under the weight of burdens beyond their strength, the [middle class] were ruined. The insoluble contradiction between large [industry] and [the middle class] continued to intensify.


> The squeezing out of the [middle-class] subverted not only the economic, but also the military and political might of the [migrant]-owning States, and particularly [the USA]. Victories were replaced by defeats. Wars of conquest were replaced by defensive ones. The source of the uninterrupted supply of cheap [migrants] dried up. The negative aspects of migrant labour appeared more and more strongly. A general fall in production took place in the last two centuries of the existence of the [Statesian] Empire.
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>>2765754
Seethe harder liberal retard.

>>2765774
you are Epstein
you are the liberal here, read Lenin >>2765723

>>2765682
I want to import the entire fucking third world and damn the consequences.

>>2765723
>center aligned text, non justified, sans serif barely an outline, pasted over a photograph
do you want people to actually read that or do you want them to give up halfway through?

>>2765780
You are stupid



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https://www.swtimes.com/story/lifestyle/faith/2016/10/15/on-holiest-day-in-jewish/25200145007/
>TEL AVIV, Israel — As afternoon dims into dusk on the eve of Yom Kippur, an extraordinary thing happens in this secular metropolis: Israel’s city that rarely sleeps grinds to a standstill and is enveloped in a strange and wonderful silence.

>Parents lug bicycles out of basement bomb shelters. Children pop their heads out in between parked cars to see if it is finally safe to go into the road. The echo of car horns is replaced by the pinging of bicycle bells.


>“It’s the one day that parents can let kids go out in the street without getting run over,” he says. “They can ride their bikes from one end of the city to another.”


>After dark, wide-open HaBimah Square next to the eponymous national theater fills with hundreds of families. Parents socialize as children wobble along on training wheels and teenagers plan nocturnal bicycle rides to neighboring cities.


How old were you when you realized cycling us Zi*nist coded? True anti-colonial proletarians drive lifted trucks
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>>2765867
Quit seething, Rabbi

>>2765870
A proletarian will run you over in a lifted truck, Epstein

The real proletarian vehicles are engine powered hang-gliders

Israelis are building colonies in Kenya so they can practice apartheid
If their state in occupid palestine falls they'll go down ratlines to these settlements. is there no end to their colonisation?

>>2765875
>>2765875
Surely just a COHENincidende…



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Wanna know what folks on here thinks of andrea dworkin and general sentiment around her work alongside others in her vein. Was she a genius or just stupid?
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>>2764801
Don’t google Bunga Bunga

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>>2764834
"…"

>>2761954
She was right about a lot of things but her general reactionary disdain for men convinced me that Feminism is not inherently compatible with Leftism and we need to be very careful allying with Men of Wo. Most self-identified radfems are just left-wing out of self-interest and not any kind of idealistic belief in improving the world or helping their fellow man, just themselves and their own kind. Cut a radfem and a tribalist class traitor bleeds. They're also often responsible for extremely reactionary policy under the guise of "protecting women" like banning porn or requiring age verification online or mass surveillance.

Maybe I'm just a chud though.

>>2764793
Les ritals sont en chaleur c'est scientifiquement prouvé

>>2765361
why is banning porn "extremely reactionary"?



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Why are crippled homeless beggars, disabled and rich Mafia all lumped together as Lumpenproles?

Seems hella weird rich criminals being in that group according to Karl Marx.

>>2764312
because they are free minded and can't be used as a tool for le revolution

>>2764312
there's arguments that mafia would be more considered "lumpenbourgeoisie"
But the real answer is these groups don't organize because they have no real economic or political power, especially homeless beggars.

>>2764314

There is class hereirchy in the mob too though. you have the working class members earning and the rich elites on top. and marx and engels werent using dialetical materialism to criticize lumpens they were mostly just doing moral liberal panic over the "anti-social" behaviors of the lowest workers because marx was poor but still a petite bourgeois academic would be no different than some gentry marxist moving in a seattle condo then saying the way the workers behave is too crude

>>2765610
Booklet. M&E recorded several (anti-monarchist) revolutions where lumpen were bought to fight for the status quo.



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>Previous Bake
>>2760804

<47th Thread for 47th President Edition


Latest News
>Oil dipped today as Trump TACOs yet again
<Ladybugs Graham is getting cold feet on further Iran fighting
>More problems in USA like sex scandals becoming public and Ballroom malfunctions are distracting Trump
<Autists confirmed that Saudi Arabia is used for strikes (Saudis lied yet again)
>US Defense Secretary Hegseth's broker looked to buy defense fund before Iran attack, FT reports
<Tomahawks are depleted
>Fizzlers are ascending except in Lebanon as Hezbollah is engaging in heavy fighting with IOF

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>>2765340
What about boobs on the ground?

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giga fizzle
nothing ever happens
you still have to go to work tomorrow

>>2765343
the old fat pedo turd can now sense that everyone around him is doubting or disgusted with him, so he's reducing his circle to only the most committed zionist warmongers and trump personality cultists



 

Capitalism is social and existential vampirism.
If capital is the value of exploitation, then we have capitalism as a way of life that one person benefits from the disgrace of other people.
It is a threat to society disguised as freedom and excellence.
Am I right?
Notice that I am a little high.

Capitalism is also morally and aesthetically despicable.
It is a void of being that pushes people into a combo of non-existence + negative work.
It makes me really sad.

Correct, the amoral aspect of capitalism is a correct and calud criticism of it, despite what sone dogmatic leftists believe.

>>2765315
I dont consider myself a scientist, maybe a philosopher or a mystic. I have read some things, but I prefer creating my own worldview based on what I read.
To me, capitalism is morally wrong because everything that is not morally good (like seeking the truth, listening to good music, making love in some way) is actually bad and not just "neutral".
That's where my idea of capitalism as a social and existential void comes from. It literally sucks life from good people and give it to someone who doesn't really care about nothing.
Non-beings and ugly people pretending they are, while good and exceptional stuff being always tossed away and repressed.
I have no idea where this comes from, but I think socialism is a good way of fixing it.

>>2765339
It's the human essence recognizing capitalism is flawed, in the same manner animals in zoos go crazy

Funny thing is, if you take morals out of the equation it’s still a pretty shit system.



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