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/US-Venezuela war/ #2
>Tired of the re-runs edition
>>2440521 Previous thread
https://archive.ph/4Dq3L Thread 1 Archive

The Real Reason the USA Is Attacking Latin America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcWH-LPyTow
0:00 Trump's war on Latin America
1:04 (CLIP) Trump meddles in Argentina's election
1:23 US imperial strategy in Latin America
2:02 (CLIP) Trump wants Venezuela's oil
2:14 Natural resources
2:41 Ties with China and Russia
3:02 Oligarchic counter-revolution
4:11 US war on Venezuela
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The Revolution Will Not Be Terrorized
The Caribbean Sea holds the memories of countless African and Indigenous lives brutally killed by imperial power. From the terrible Transatlantic Slave Trade to today’s US bombings of civilian vessels, executing dozens of Caribbean people. Though separated by centuries, the underlying motives remain the same: profit-driven colonial domination.

This year, Latin America and the Caribbean honor the memory of the victims of the “Zong Massacre” on its 244th anniversary and its lasting impact on the fight against colonialism.

In 1781, the British slave ship Zong left Accra in Ghana with 442 Africans on board, which was more than twice its capacity. The captives were destined for Jamaica, where they would be sold for an average price of £36 each to work on sugar plantations. However, the British enslavers ran low on supplies after navigating off course miles from the island and decided to mass murder captives to collect insurance money of £30 per person.

On November 29, 54 women and children were thrown into the Caribbean Sea. A further 78 men were tossed overboard in the following days, while 10 enslaved people jumped into the water in an act of revolutionary resistance. Another 62 Africans had already died on board from malnutrition and disease. The story is only known because of court documents, which were filed after the insurance company sued the ship’s crew to avoid paying.

The “Zong Massacre” reminds us of the horrors of colonialism and serves as a warning against today’s Western imperialist efforts to repeat history through different methods, exploiting the labour and resources of indigenous and black nations.

<The Caribbean massacre

Centuries ago, the bodies of thousands of Africans were either left to drown or to be eaten by sharks. The same is happening now, with more than 80 people having been killed since September, mostly in Caribbean waters just a few miles from the Venezuelan coast, but also in the Eastern Pacific, by US military forces. Their mangled bodies have been left to sink to the bottom of the sea or wash up on the shores of nearby countries such as Trinidad and Tobago, as happened soon after the US attacked the first vessel, killing 11.

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>>2575857
You seriously believe feds? They got Viktor Bout and he was innocent.

Fuck feds. Mutts deserve drug deaths. Im burgerreich was truly based they would kill drug users Duterte style.

>>2576763
cheer up a bit

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>>2575768
Why are you so mad that they haven't gone all-out with the trade war which Trump and not China started? Clearly it was not planned to have a sudden full decoupling in 2025. However, they can very much apply pressure with new rare earths restrictions as soon as an invasion of Venezuela starts, forcing the Trump administration to either back off or fight a trade war and guerrilla war at the same time.



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Happy Türkiye Day Edition


🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
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>>2576058
>why won't you share your emotions
<okay i feel like crap
>fuck you for making me deal with your emotions unpaid
lmao

>>2576244
fracking started at 1:1 EROEI IIRC. And shale deposits are kinda huge, so it's not likely that they'll deplete too much for a while. But it's only really gonna make sense for the US.

>>2576247
Of course the people in the "C"PUSA tried to join the most reactionary organization in the history of the world, the KKKatholiKKK Church. When that failed, they joined the second most reactionary organization, the "C"PUSA. If you think that you learn right and wrong from the Bible you are even more reactionary than I thought you were, and frankly I already think the only substantive difference between you and Goering is honesty.

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death to the Trumpist Burger Reich™ appeasement agenda. Genealogy tried to warn us in Eurovision with their song which was originally called "Don't Deny". Hayastan and Sakartvelo is falling thanks to P*tin's Psy-Op and his puppets like Ivanishvili and Trump. I recognise that Nagorno-Karabakh as Armenian. "Muh Christianity!", MAGAists say when in reality Hayastan was the first Christian country. Face the facts, Trumpists



 

How do you cope with spectacle? I know it sounds silly, but it's a genuine question.

I find myself getting drawn into the antics of e-celebs and flavor-of-the-week social media drama without even fully realizing it, and by the time I realize what happened, I've already wasted a disproportionate amount of mental bandwidth on it. I know none of it matters in the grand scheme of things, I know that none of these people hold any significant amount of real-world cultural relevance. But I have so much trouble convincing my reptilian brain of that fact.

If anyone has any suggestions, I would very much like to hear them.
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>>2576313
php boards, news groups, imageboards and by now archaic shit like that is social media in the original sense. people interacting, more or less organically, with one another based on a shared interest.

what is called social media nowadays is in fact anti social, individualist and egocentrical. participation is not born from a personal interest in a specific topic but from peer pressure and asinine incentivisation schemes in form of updoots/likes etc. pp. to maximize engagement and screen time.

>>2576402
old person is correct. It's social media, but in a different ballpark to commercial for-profit addiction machines. All we've got is the bump algorithm and (You)s.

>>2576230
Do you have much connection to IRL networks? Friends, sport you play, socialist orgs, that kind of stuff. Definitely helps to have something more important to fill those gaps than spectacle.

Want dramashit? Meet my local trot orgs, especially the ones on college campuses. Holy fuck they are a mess, including the One True Revolutionary Party getting student members to vote second preferences to the right-wing party just to their rival fellow trots couldn't get a seat, not to mention trying to stall pro-Palestine motions which passed unanimously when their stalling didn't work. Or that time they tried to change a protest route at the last minute, but forgot to tell the dozen new students they recruited on that open day, so their leadership got off the train a station early and left their targets to get poached by their rivals.
Hell, even the M-L orgs have their own weird drama, with the CP# splitting into the CP#-ML and the SP#, then CP# dying, and soon after the SP# changing their name to CP#, and the #CP being formed, before a branch split from them. vidrel

>>2576343
>If you bury yourself in books, or learning to code, or practicing an instrument then you're taking charge of your own headspace before the slop merchants can fill it for you.
This. Also getting into political theory (even breadslop), propaganda creation and coding got me out of habitual gaming. At least my hobbies are now somewhat productive while being fun and interesting.

>>2576230
I kinda want the opposite, I want to subsume myself to it.

If I can give one piece of advice, it's that while throwing yourself into learning to code, play an instrument, write a story, draw, or any other creative or skill-developing hobby (fish for all it matters!), is exceptionally worthwhile, you should categorically not get into political theory or history or similar dry academic topics. That's what I did, and I regard it as the only possible waste of time worse than using social media. At least on social media I'd have vague acquaintances and the ability to hold a facsimile of a conversation. Instead, all I have is petty resentments and an encyclopedic knowledge of dead movements, movements that were dead before they started, movements that are undead, dead economic theories, and an all-pervasive sense that everyone engaged in 'politics' outside real power is just LARPing and has nothing approaching a coherent plan for building or taking power.

It is a superficially smarter but actually much dumber way to waste your life. You are still just looking at words on a page - if you want to do that, literature is the way to go, not theory. At least it'll come in handy if you decide you want to write down the road.
This is not the good communist answer, the good communist cliche is to write paeans to theory that you don't actually read. Go on social media and do that if you must, but don't fall for the meme. You will not, in fact, read your way into actually existing socialism. You cannot get that time back, don't waste it like I did.

>>2576313
Yes but this is one of the few places for me personally that I dont want to get permabanned like I am on 4chan and reddit. Getting banned prevents me from consuming brainrot content as I get bored quickly and leave the site if I cant post.



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I'm petite bourgeois that has seen my business increase in profits as conditions have gotten worse. (tech 2020-now). Are there any Marxist writing on this phenomenon?
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>>2573837
you're just agreeing with me now

>>2573771
What are you basing this on? That your personal business is making money?

>>2573771
>>2573716
<tech itself is slowing becoming a blue collar field.
>The point is that the tech petite bourgeois has grown in crisis not been absorbed by the bourgeois
no contradiction - plenty of "blue collar" petit bourgois like electrician plumber masters who own businesses.

OP is a probably an high end consultant or an small to mid size MSP/it shop. No surprise its booming now.

Anyway tech is a growth field but eventually the cloud will eat everything anyway and bezos/gates/etc. will own 90% of the worlds IT infra

>>2573771
>The point is that the tech petite bourgeois has grown
Where is the proofs? Can you share any actual data on that claim? How is petite bourgeoise growth ratio compared to monopoly capital growth?

wtf is this shit thread.
>helo guis explain my anecdote with marxism



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How can anyone think that Donald Trump is a Christian when all he is a Zionist bootlicker not just that he’s enforce the National Guard deported so many migrants friends with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein bombed boats in Venezuela he’s basically a war criminal but apparently he worked at McDonald’s. I’m loving it. That. Fat fuck

Christianity for most people is based aesthetics and not actually following the doctrine, cause if that was true they would all become vagabonds. Also no right winger believes Trump is a Christian they just like his policies.



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How do you think American liberal politics will play out once Trump is no longer in power?

For the past 10 years, the entire crux of the Democratic Party has been "STOP TRUMP". The average American Democrat or liberal now bases their political views solely on how much they hate Trump, MAGAts, "manosphere" podcasters, so-called "alt-right pipelines", and everything in between. They have no real principles and it shows.

The right-wing, on the other hand, believes it is creating a new world; it's a much worse world, but that's how they want it. This has caused liberals to prop up the old, dying system as a way of preventing it from collapsing into something worse. Now, we're seeing liberals who claim to be "left-wing" embrace everything from free trade agreements (on the basis Trump's tariffs need to be stopped) to hyper-consumerism (on the basis that spending money on fashion and makeup and mindless consumer goods helps maintain your "individuality" against Trump-era conformity) to literal junk food (in order to own RFK and MAHA). It doesn't take much to realize all of these were once things American liberals strongly opposed 20-25 years ago; I'm old enough to remember when "clean girl" no-makeup aesthetics, eating organic, and herbal medicines were leftist things.

American liberals are now pushing a culture of hyper-rationality and order to counter the mass chaos that has erupted in America under Trump. They hate ICE agents terrorizing communities but they hate the sporadic community defence and protests that pop up to beat back ICE even more. They hate the Luigi Mangiones and the Tyler Robinsons and the prospects of an American Years of Lead. They want everything to be "rational" and based on slow progression and linear shit. But this way is outdated. Trying to find the "middle path" doesn't work when capitalism is in a state of collapse. For the liberal, everything that doesn't fit their paradigm is "mysticism" which always equates to "fascism" and needs to be stamped out before it manifests into authoritarianism. But how can this hyper-rationalism win?

The same is true of foreign policy. Liberals insist on American soft power, which arguably won't work in a world post-Gaza where American support for the most documented genocide in recent history was on full display. Trump, on the other hand, is an old school imperialist who simply seizes whatever he demands without caring.

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I don’t think that there will be a strong liberal movement after Trump. The liberal base is practically all just demsocs except for boomers and unless you consider them to also be liberals then it’s pretty much over. Everyone is either a demsoc or a Nazi which is pretty bad because I don’t think that demsocs are the polor opposite of Nazis, I would consider the polor opposite of a demsoc to be an Eisenhower-style conservative and I would consider the polor opposite of Nazis to be Maoists, then again what would a Guevarist like me know? After all we all like to think we are in the center.

>>2526945
If the Dems could recover from the Vietnam debacle (Vietnam was a Dem project for most of America’s involvement) they can recover from the Gaza genocide
What they cannot recover from is their utter inability to improve anyone’s life in any way

>>2526850
>american liberalism after liberalism
Same old. Uniparty will continue to murder both americans and foreign victims of imperialism in the name of capital.

>How do you think American liberal politics will play out once Trump is no longer in power?
Those who aren't ready for socialism, particularly those not directly hit hard by the current repression, might just celebrate the 'victory' of Democrats (assuming they aren't overtly blocked from electoral power) and interpret it as the system working, validating their trust in US institutions, electoralism and the legal system. Honestly, a show-trial of Trump could kill a revolution.

But if socialists GTFO /leftypol/ and actually seize upon these grievances, they can inoculate people from liberalist claims of America working, if/when the Republicans face any roadblocks in the future.

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I used to think that the democrats were a good thing but now I think they crap



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How do we resolve the paradox of reform and complacency?

Put simply,
>the vast majority in Western countries seem unmotivated to engage in political activity, beyond absolute trivial acts like voting or sharing opinions. This is assumed to be largely a result of complacency, despite the material issues caused by the current political systems.

>acceleration schools of thought may suggest intentionally worsening the conditions of regular people, assuming this will motivate them to focus on improving their conditions rather than tolerating the status quo. opponents will point out that making conditions worse makes it harder to organize and lessens people's ability to act effectively

>reformists may suggest improving conditions through political education and participation. however, opponents will point out that improving conditions through the system increases complacency without solving the root problem.
Where else do we go? Dual power? Selective reform?



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What do we think of Anarcho-Synndicaliam, Council Communism, and Anarcho-Communism, basically ideologies in which the proletriat immediately seizes production without seizing the state apparatus.

Personally i really like Pannekoek and also syndicalism although I think both systems can become burecratic and possibly disconnected forming a new classes (such as how after the first revolunary generation lost power in the USSR the vanguard stopped working for the proletriat and formed new methods of exploitation).
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Did subcomandante Marcos really say that?

allegedly there is a controversy (that only exists bc of rumor so take with a grain of salt) that one council betrayed another in favor of their own interests(not stepping in for security or something like that), which, as a result is argued to have made it easier for the govt to overrun their specific territory. first of all, a tragedy but also confirmed a critique/bogeyman of this system where small town/council "nationalism" overrides helping others in favor of their territory's interests. anyone hear about this? you can try to discuss it but anarchists and such will call you a fed for even wanting to find out about it/clarifying details

Nazism is shit in all forms

>>2575989
anarchism as a movement collapsed this decade. there's no substance to it anymore, anarchism as it exists (or recently existed) would never be able with its network of communes to go against the bourgeois state. people hopefully realize this before lapsing into literal identity politics like the OP

>>2575220
I've always been interested in the revolutionary process within Catalonia/Aragon/Spain during their civil war but I've never been able to find anything that focused on that topic alone. Where can i find this?



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>>2575760
Its a sign that western powers are ready to negotiate and let Russians enter different institutions so there can be a dialog. Trumps cuckoldry can also not be underestimated.

Closely related to this subject is that Jared Kushner tried to include a "christian alliance against China" in the the original 28 part plan which Russians were smart enough to dismiss outright. While not a big fan of Russia I have loyalty towards socialist states like PRC and DPRK.

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r8 the plan

>>2575506
God I love Luka

Shall I bake?




 

Can we talk about the new revelations about Noam Chomsky and Jeffrey Epstein?

>The prominent linguist and philosopher Noam Chomsky called it a “most valuable experience” to have maintained “regular contact” with Jeffrey Epstein, who by then had long been convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor, according to emails released earlier in November by US lawmakers.


>Such comments from Chomsky, or attributed to him, suggest his association with Epstein – who officials concluded killed himself in jail in 2019 while awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges – went deeper than the occasional political and academic discussions the former had previously claimed to have with the latter.


>Chomsky, 96, had also reportedly acknowledged receiving about $270,000 from an account linked to Epstein while sorting the disbursement of common funds relating to the first of his two marriages, though the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professor has insisted not “one penny” came directly from the infamous financier.


>The emails disclosed on 12 November by the Republican members of the US House oversight committee generally detailed the correspondence Epstein had with political, academic and business luminaries, including the Bill Clinton White House’s treasury secretary Larry Summers and Steve Bannon, the longtime ally of Donald Trump. Further, they reveal Epstein and Chomsky were close enough to discuss musical interests and even potential vacations.


>Perhaps the most telling of the Chomsky-related documents in question was a letter of support for Epstein attributed to Chomsky with the salutation “to whom it may concern”. It is not dated, but it contains a typed signature with Chomsky’s name and citing his position as a University of Arizona laureate professor, a role he began in 2017, as first reported by the Massachusetts news outlet WBUR.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/22/noam-chomsky-jeffrey-epstein-ties-emails

A couple of things:
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How is this relevant to the left?

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>>2570854
>chomsky
oy chill bro he just diddled gentile girls nothing to worry about brahski

just typical anarcho retardo things

>>2575554
That Talmudic verse is literally about whether or not a girl who was molested as a small child is still considered a virgin on her wedding day. It’s absolutely not an endorsement of child rape.

>>2575899
>>2575899
It's about determining the price of slave fussy, who are you trying to make it sound kosher?

<And similarly, with regard to a female convert, or a captive woman, or a maidservant, who were ransomed with regard to the captive, or who converted with regard to the convert, or who were freed with regard to the maidservant, when she was more than three years and one day old, for all of these, their marriage contract is one hundred dinars and they are not subject to a claim concerning their virginity. When they married, their presumptive status was that of a non-virgin.


>Rav Oshaya raised an objection to the opinion of Rav from the mishna: With regard to an adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl less than three years old, or a minor boy less than nine years old who engaged in intercourse with an adult woman, or a woman who had her hymen ruptured by wood or any other foreign object, the marriage contract for each of these women is two hundred dinars. This is the statement of Rabbi Meir. And the Rabbis say: The marriage contract of a woman whose hymen was ruptured by wood is one hundred dinars. Contrary to Rav’s opinion, the Rabbis distinguish between the halakha in the case of the intercourse of a minor boy and the halakha in the case of a woman whose hymen was ruptured by wood.



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