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How did a colonizing power become economically cucked by its own former colony?
>From assets to businesses, the high street to the internet, US investors have a stranglehold on Britain’s economy.
<Nowhere has America asserted its economic dominance more strongly than in Britain, where around two million people now work for US companies. Tens of billions of dollars per year are transferred across the Atlantic in the form of dividends paid on the proceeds of British work, conducted on behalf of American owners. A jaunty little map on the Office for National Statistics website gives the good news that our goods exports to America actually outweigh our imports by a few billion. Go, Global Britain! But a less accessible chart, found in the deeper reaches of the website of the American tax authority, the IRS, tells a different story: in 2020 (the latest year on record) the revenue recorded by American companies in the UK was over $707bn, more than ten times the amount made in the entire continent of Africa. In 2019, large US corporations made an (aggregated) profit of £2,500 from every household in the UK.
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>>1892502
They already oversaw this happening, tiktok zoomers listening to drill and wasting the few surplus they retain from their labour in gucci clothes wont lead s revolution. They are too busy in their patriarchal displays of assertiveness imitating central american gangs

 

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>>1892504
Will change ever come?

 

>>1892504
Yes you make a good point about the importing of the bourgeoisie to this country in order to maintain class relations. I think also of how the NHS depends on importing doctors and nurses too.
Its like capitalism is being transplanted where it inevitably procures a lumpenising effect
>>1892509
There is that quote by GK Chesterton where he says that the english will only remember God when the muslims ban alcohol from the pubs. Once the quaintness of british nostalgia fades into bleak sobriety of blairist modernism, maybe people will at least shake things up. A bit like frodo and sam leaving the shire to destroy the ring in mt. doom.

 

>>1892509
Nah, they have been endorsing this lumpenization for decades. The aspirations of the britons on the left go no further than a kumbaya pink capitalism where the bourgueois is half black instead of not existing, but not even a bourgueois, but rather a democratic wage-ified class of appointed faces for the real capital with no real power and on full disposability.
Meme country. Meme future.
Balkanization would be the best that britain could aspire for atm

 

>>1889232
hey look its hitler's same opinion



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right wingers often claim that they are going to "out breed" the left.
>Charlie Kirk: Celebrating all the moms at our Young Women’s Leadership Summit this weekend. We’re going to win either now or later, when we outbreed the left!
<Chaya Raichik: I come from a family of 8. I plan to have a lot of kids. We’re going to outbreed the Left. Then we’re gonna homeschool or send our kids to private school so they can’t be groomed into becoming activists for leftist causes.
>Michael Knowles: there are two ways to beat the left: you can outargue them or you can outbreed them.
So leftypol will this work? Can the right simply OUTBREED the left and save capitalism forever and ever?
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>>1893937
They'll see the decline. The narrative they ascribe to it will depend on any number of factors, their own dispositions, chance encounters with friends and community members, contemporary media themes, and so on.

>>1894426
>reproductive sweepstakes
Darwin larp is reactionary

 

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>>1885938
Rightists haven't read the history of the holy roman empire or played crusader kings. If you have many children and succession laws in your realm don't transfer all assets to one of them, your dynasty will shortly perish. Based ottoman sultans just killed all their brothers legally, that's how their realm was secured for centuries to come.

 

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>>1893421
>rightoids think war is humans vs. orcs
>rightoids think reproduction is dr. evil and mini me

lmfao

 

>>1894647
Also, real trads keep it in the family, just sayin. These uppity merchant larpers will never be trad, capital requires constant revolutionizing of all areas of life

 

>>1894647
>Rightists haven't read the history of the holy roman empire or played crusader kings. If you have many children and succession laws in your realm don't transfer all assets to one of them, your dynasty will shortly perish. Based ottoman sultans just killed all their brothers legally, that's how their realm was secured for centuries to come.
sounds like turchins idea of elite overproduction



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I'd like to give my perspective. I'm from a South Asian country. Other than a few brief years I've lived most of my life in my home town, as has my entire family for centuries. I had no problem with the heat and neither did my family. I used to jog in the summer without any issues. However about 4-5 years ago, the heat became unbearable. People in my community have suffered heat strokes, and thousands have already died. The effects of climate change where it starts affecting regular people have happened here, rveryone believes in it, The crops aren't all dead, the oceans haven't sunk cities, but they can feel the pain heat every time of time both day and night and they probably know someone who has suffered from a heat stroke
Now, a criticism I've seen from Westerners is that taking measures to end the painful heatwaves "won't fix the root causes" of capitalism. And listen I know that, but we are in pain here. I'm seeing people suffer as they leave their homes. I just don't see a way in which we can meet temperature goals, and there is no indication that countries are serious about cutting emissions to the extent needed.
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>>1892481
>I want to live a normal life and not see the collapse of civilization.
You are gonna see the collapse of the biosphere, dawg.

 

>>1892481
Be the change you want to see in the world and shoot down private jets.

 

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Meanwhile in microplastic.

 

>>1866038
Climate change is a real problem that will result in millions of dead. Still my greatest worries are climate change resulting in full nuclear war.

 

>>1892483
They try to do but they are powerless in the face of capital.



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Do you know Salah Jadid?
He was a Ba'athist Arab nationalist turned far-left socialist who ruled Syria for a relatively short period before being overthrown by Assad senior in a coup.
Unlike his Ba'athist contemporaries Jadid believed in class struggle, implemented radical leftist policies, assigned communists to high positions in his government, pursued close relations with the CPSU, shifted the party line from Arab nationalism to explicitly revolutionary anti-capitalist stand treating pan-Arabism as merely a means to an end (that is socialism) rather than an end itself.
After his overthrow Assad started reversing many of his policies, liberalizing the country while cracking down on leftist opposition.

Assad Senior was an absolute buffon who wasn't committed to the Palestinian cause or socialism as he criticised Jadid for his support of Palestinians during their revolt against the Jordanian monarchy, gave the Golan on a silver platter to Israelis, funded counter revolutionaries in the Lebanese civil war, supported an expansionist theocracy in his sectarian scuffles, made a deal with the US to occupy Lebanon in exchange of supporting the Gulf War, started neoliberalizing Syria's economy in the 90s.

The only other head of state that was to the left of secular pan-Arabism is Iraq's Qasim, he to was overthrown by nationalists. As a leftist MENAoid I believe Arab nationalism has been a net negative for our region. It is a revisionist (historically and ideologically), colonial, reactionary ideology that had been used primarily to suppress class consciousness and recuperate socialism and revolution to serve bourgeois interests.
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>>1892816
Iran is a theocracy
Turkey is run by Islamists for the past half century
Tunisia had the largest number of ISIS volunteers
Azeris behead christians while screaming allahu akbar

Stop getting your information from reddit. Though I agree it can die, just not by other reactionaries.

 

>>1894477
>Stop getting your information from reddit.
>Get your information from breitbart instead.

 

>>1894488
I get it from outside my window since I live there

 

>>1894524
post your window right now faggot

 

>>1894648
>westfag calling anyone a fag
lol
lmao



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Was he unironically a leftist anti-imperialist? He was turning Egypt into a modern, industrialized powerhouse, he seized the power from the parasitic nobility and clergy and was on the verge of destroying the backwards Ottomans, literally at the gates of Constantinople until European imperialists such as UK, France and Russia, afraid of a united Middle Eastern industrialized nation intervened in favor of the Turks, whom they used as a puppet.
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>>1892882
They had a clergy bro, all premodern islamic states had an ulama. It didnt work like western clergy but it was still a collegiate body that was an authority on islamic practice and jurisprudence. They also didn't have an outright nobility but locally entrenched dynasties and landlords that acted as de facto closed nobilities, we just refer to them in the scholarship as “local notables” ofc their power wasnt exactly legally enshrined

 

>>1892882
>I bet OP think Julius Caesar was a socdem

 

>>1892754
the Ottoman Empire, Qajar Iran, Safavids, and Mamelukes was socialist

 

>>1892791
trying to convince us that islam somehow isnt an enemy to class consciousness.

not the first and wont be the last

 

>>1893206
stop playing eu iv



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What do you think of him? Do you buy into the bourgeois appropriation of his work? Do you digest neoclassical ideology uncritically? Or do you recognise him as the vital turning point in the history and structure of world-capitalism that he was?
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>>1894496
>(these people will never bring forward a good explanation for why the Keynesian consensus collapsed in the 1970s), not the late 1980s.

I have a good explanation for this tbh. It's because Keynesian economics applied in the global south was leading to demands for redistribution and rather than weakening the socialist bloc was strengthening it by weakening imperialism.

This book goes into in detail:

American strategists recognized that in order to curtail the power of labour and to win the Cold War they needed to drop the carrot and go all in on the stick because industrialization and growth of the south was just weakening capitalism. And they were correct.

 

>>1894482
>What do you think of him
He saved america from a communist revolution.

 

>>1894496
i basically agrew w you entirely

 

>>1894496
I think in line w Castoriadis on this subject. Marxism is the history of the development of capitalism and we have to fully understand in detail the way in which capitalism develops and evolves, not just like a lot of communists who go “hehe cyberpunk communism” but actually undwrstanding what opportunities this brings us past rehashing old and clearly dead old left tactics. I think the transition of the economy towards the modern technological moneyary feudalism of today can only be understood via Keynes and his socialist successors, and the marxists have been floundering ideologically since the 30s bc they cant catch the memo.

 

Keynesianism is a system that dominated both Soviet economics and western economics despite what anyone else believes. It’s one of the most consequential economics systems of the 20th century and continues to be relevant to this very day as the only alternative as a counter to neoliberalism and neoclassical economics policies.



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WHAT IS MULTIPOLARISM
Multipolarism, in its most basic form, posits a world where multiple powers (countries or entities) exist in a state of relative equilibrium, challenging the unipolar hegemony led mainly by the United States post-Cold War. The emergence of China, the reassertion of Russia, the rise of regional powers like India, Brazil, and South Africa, among others, suggest a move towards this multipolar world.


BUT is it rly just Capitalism 2: Electric Boogaloo - Neo-Dengism Edition? To what extent is multipolarism just capitalist nationalism for people not in green on this map? If the whole thrust of socialism is now just "America bad" what becomes of the classical socialist goals of workers control of the means of production, and abolishing class society?


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>>1885678
>support dialogue, cooperation and trade with BRICS, acknowledge their growing importance and support their institutions, shit on nato, support dedollarization, call out new cold war propaganda.
Kind of telling that your only concept of "actually doing something" is shitposting online and engaging in "discourse".

 

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>>1886422
Come here, meat boy

 

>>1885907
that photo is from like 70 years after slavery ended. most white southerners were yeoman farmers during the slave era. this is around the dust bowl and great depression era.

 

>>1888436
>most white southerners were yeoman farmers during the slave era
The Owsley argument is still under contention by historians to this day but it's undeniable that slavery caused great white wealth inequality even among yeomen while crackers were forced to compete with slaves.

 

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https://archive.is/D5QvW

Is your body ready?



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Let's talk music, for instance. There are 12 tones in Western music and only 12 tones are acceptable and at least for myself familliar (although experiments with atonality are nice as well). If your song happens to sound too similar to the other song, then you are accused of plagiarism by porkies. Let's take also piracy. I don't think it's stealing. At any time human being can buy a record or a movie or a PC game or whatever and the only people screaming about it are porkies, as usual.
Do you agree with my points?
Pic unrelated, posted for laughs.

 

I heard just plenty of Ozzy Osbourne's riffs and Dime could be accused of stealing his music, but he wasn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af28XgyXTNs



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Thread for all things Nordic. Recommended languages: Finnish, Scandinavian and English.
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Hur rösta EU val pls

 

>>1879201
SKP.
Nämner följande för säkerhets skull: man behöver ingen "riktig" valsedel för att rösta på ett givet parti, man skriver bara SKP med tydliga bokstäver på en blank valsedel. Lycka till kamrat!

 

>>1879298
Meh. Minulle kelpaa tämä kolmen vassari-MEP:in minijytky.
Ja koska Li lähtee, Yrttis palaa isoon saliin :D

 

Congratulations, Brussels.

You had that 'trollfabrik' thing recently. PS doesn't have anything like that we know of, however, there's BB-Sebastion. As he himself remarked: with a MEP's salary, he can "quintuple his megaphone".

 

>>1881680
tala svenska din pajsare :-DDDDDD



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Last weekend I got totally socially destroyed by people in my orgs with a whole load of lies, emotional appeals, etc. They had secret meetings to talk to a lot of key people to convince them of these lies in advance. They then sprung all of this on a national meeting, throwing me under the bus among borderline rape allegations against friends of mine who arent even members and they never interacted with to any capacity, all in an effort to put their candidate in a light on a platform of "fighting sexism" and take down the opposing candidate in the process.
The party I spend 3+ years of my life in a near full time manner building up, of which i build up the entire chapter from zero to dozens of members, including the people who fucked me over, all of it is taken away from me.
The people in the org were easily swayed by a very obvious plot. Nobody opposed a showtrial without any evidence in which people were attacked by name, despite them not having mentioned any of these issues before to the confidants or the board. People, including those who said they would have my back, didnt dare to intervene.
A moscow trial was conducted in an org of only a little over a hundred people.

If communists are unable to defend and see such snakes and opportunists even at this level, and are so easily swayed, and if even this small a scale is enough to invite full on throwing comrades under the bus for your own gain, then all is lost. The opportunist powerplays that happened in the soviet union are inevitable. Democracy and workers power is an impossibility. The left can never win because it is unable to even have a functioning democracy beyond 150 people without falling to unopposed opportunism.

I am done with politics, i'm going back to my life with people I actually can trust, and im just gonna grill. The Marxist ideal is an illusion, even the smallest level politics gets easily corrupted by opportunists.
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>>1893981
i mean you are right, dont give up OP better days are ahead!

 

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>>1893958
>I have given up on communism
>mentions rape allegations
>implying the moscow trials were for show
>abandons communism, not the party or org, but literally the entire ideology because of what technically are serious allegations by singular people
You were never a communist to begin with Trot. Kindly self pick yourself out of shame.

 

>>1893998
your name is bloodgasm. Hope your parents are proud.

 

Moved to >>>/dead/5473.



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