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It turns out that Norway's SWF almost has more money per capita than Norwegian private wealth, that is to say, its material base is such that it can realize PDD, with 2 trillion in the SWF vs about 500 billion GDP.

Roedt seems to be doing adequately, but how good are the revolutionary conditions there? I normally wouldn't advocate first world revolution, whether by the bullet or the ballot, but that 2 trillion is tempting as all hell.
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>>2536506
Here's the thing, as soon as Norway gets a gov that isn't neolib, America seizes the SWF. It can't exist without the US stock market.

>>2536506
Wonder what happened to the Rødtanon party member. he told us a very hopeful vision with real power being gained at local levels but that was a while ago now.

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>>2554615
>>2554658
That would be me. Unfortunately I’m a bit busy with work in computing to be politically active. But I do notice that people are warming up to the party. The leaders recently posted a poll up to 7% or more so we are gaining speed. Unfortunately so is FrP. I’m hoping Rødt can take a socially conventional approach to capture the youth. I’m glad this is being talked about on leftypol. I often get death threats on 4chan from maga americans and their bootlickers.

Norway wouldn’t exist without class struggle. The Sovereign Wealth Fund wouldn’t exist. It has always been a trad working class left country.




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Has there ever been a materialist explanation for why western socialist and communist groups are overwhelmingly white, relatively gender balanced and majority cis (disregarding pronoun nonsense)?

Whereas the membership of contemporary rightoid fascist groups is disproportionately hispanic, Indian or otherwise nonwhite, overwhelmingly male, and rife with pedophiles, perverts and other abusers?
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>>2555036
Bait. Racists always complain about how communists parties in Europe are full of brown people.

>>2555036
Divide and conquer by playing favourite with different demographics

whites are ubermensch and therefore communist

>disproportionately hispanic, Indian or otherwise nonwhite, overwhelmingly male
I don't think this is a rule at all for every reactionary movement's but for the US, many latinos who are not white passing identify themselves as white anyway, or at least feel whiter than their peers, so it's the prevailing colorism within non-white communities that makes them feel identified with the white supremacist cause

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>>2555036
>Has there ever been a materialist explanation for why western socialist and communist groups are overwhelmingly white, relatively gender balanced and majority cis (disregarding pronoun nonsense)?
Most people in the west are white, their population is genderbalanced, and most of the population is cis.



 

Had anyone here tried to troll South Vietnamese diaspora by asking if they condemn the unlawful murder of Prime Minister/President Ngô Đình Diệm by Dương Văn Minh? If yes, what reactions did you get?
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They will eat you if you do

I troll them by going to the nearest Viet restaurant and ordering a big bowl of Pho, eating it quietly, and thanking the nice old lady at the till. I call this trolling method "not being an autistic freak who pics political fights with randos."

A better one would be pointing out that America did not allow elections because the communists would have won, and no dem diem but most of the country in prison look up tragic hamlet program

Bump

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THE AESTHETICS OF COMMUNISM

This thread will describe what exact superstructural changes will occur in the aftermath of a Global Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution once the Material Base has been transformed after the Socialist Mode of Production has been established Worldwide. Enjoy Comrades, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

I will present a thought experiment, what will the World look like a century from now, decades after the World Maoist Protracted People's War (PPW) swept the forces of Capital and Reaction into the dustpan of History in the aftermath of World War III (it started in the Late 2020s as a High-Intensity Conventional Conflict between the U$ and China that escalated into a Global Nuclear War, but contrary to most Pseudoscientific Bourgeois Liberal and Revisionist expectations did not cause an apocalyptic "Nuclear Winter", but instead destroyed the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System and allowed for a World Maoist PPW that saw Maoist rebels seize control of the entire planet after decades of guerrilla warfare), 🤔? This Effort post will seek to answer that question, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

First, I will explain the political structure of this future Socialist world. There will be a Global USSR, in which every major Nation/Ethnic group will receive their own SSR or ASSR according to the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR (as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union ), including New Afrika, Aztlan (in a Hispano-American SFSR that includes all the Spanish-speaking Multiracial regions of the Americas), the First Nations, Azawad, Oromia, Afaria, Basque Country, Catalonia, Scotland, Wales, Sapmi, Palestine (in a Arab SFSR that includes all the Arab mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2548178
Comrade, are you trying to call me a Fascist for upholding the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism, 😂🤣✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️🤔?

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>>2548211
What is Fascist about the Aesthetics of Communism, 🤔?

>>2545832
He has the makings of a Chernyshevsky, a fine writer of utopian literature with a socialist bent. If he wants the adventurists and real MLM uyghas of the future to namedrop him, he'll have to hone his craft and publish his shit in the form of a novel. I personally hope he keeps the emojis in his oeuvre and I will make it my life's mission to see to it that the hyperstitional Rakhmetovs of the future include them while they're quoting passages from a red-vinyled copy of his bangers.

>>2545468
Bump, I really hope more of my fellow Comrades can provide an Intellectual critique of my In-Depth Dialectical Materialist Marxist-Leninist-Maoist Analysis Effort Post detailing the “Aesthetics of Communism” that will exist after the Global Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in the future Global USSR, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️🤔?



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A thread for exploring, and celebrating, the gradual but hastening fall of the United Empire of America.

>b-bu'muh /USApol/!

This thread doesn't focus on internal or electoral news and politics. Yes, the two consecutive demented presidents are relevant but we're looking outward at the international signs of decline.
>g2/prc/
This thread wants to explore beyond just China, Russia, ZR, etc., show us the deserted corners of the empire too.

Bring your:
- shifting international polls
- seaplanes
- estranged former 'allies'
- aid AIDS

to me the biggest sign of burger reich decline is that it has to choose between currency hegemony and reindustrialization. it cannot have both.

quote from another thread:

<America's currency hegemony and world reserve currency status depends on the debt being unpaid, and the debt being unpaid depends on the trade deficit, and the trade deficit depends on importing more than we export, and that depends on deindustrialization. Trump wants to reindustrialize, but he also wants currency hegemony. He can't have both. He has to pick between one or the other. He cannot be a neo-mercantilist advocate of reindustrialization, and an advocate of America's currency hegemony at the same time. The British and Dutch were also vanquished by this same crisis of hegemony. This is why China, at least the smarter officials in China, don't want to inherit America's unipolar imperial hegemony. It is a poison pill which destroys you in the long run. Multipolarity may prove to be unstable for different reasons, but unipolar hegemony is already proven to be unstable.



 

I love books that detail how great thinkers changed their minds, or more precisely, have had discovered new insights that made them go 180° on their previous takes. (I love progress in thinking…)

For me, when it comes to "big commie theorists," it is an enjoyable case of dialectics within dialectics. Can anyone relate? Do you understand?

So far I've read 3 books on the aforementioned gentlemen, detailing their "change of hearts:"

1) Engels & Marx changing their opinions gradually on the colonialism/imperialism question, recognizing the reality of the labour aristocracy, and so on. (.pdf related #1)

2) Marx & Engels becoming anti-humanists, divorcing their humanist (Hegelian) backgrounds. (.pdf related #2)

3) Lenin changing from socdem to bolshevik (.pdf related #3)

If you have other examples of these big brained retards maturing and 'dialecting' the shit out of the world, please post them. Combined, M-E-L wrote like 120k pages texts and like 0.001% of Actually Existing Communists (AEC) read it all.

Thread motto: Eppur si muove!
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>>2552410
>he never completely lost his Narodnik influences. This is what the video posted above in >>2552208 is about; Despite its clickbait thumbnail, it's very well-researched and interesting.
Wrong, and Lih rebukes this idea in the first two chapters of the book OP linked. Lenin held up the Erfurt programe.

>>2552140
>Engels & Marx changing their opinions gradually on the colonialism/imperialism question
there wasn't a change of mind, at least in marx's case. there are many early writings where he points out the "injustices" and "unfairness" of imperialism, but he didn't really concern himself with morals, neither while young nor old. his priority was understanding the facts, rather than assigning them a "good" or "bad" label, but most people here are too stupid to notice that, or practice it themselves, too baby-brained

the labor aristocracy thing is one of the most misinterpreted and misquotes by annoying ultras. the word was referring to opportunists that join the labor movement aiming for leadership positions just because they see it as easy money and a way of avoiding getting a real job. retards now think it means when your job involves a desk or a computer

>>2552140
Stalin going from 'socialism in one country is impossible' to 'socialism is possible in one country [and we'll kill you if you disagree]' is always a banger.

Non of these breaks happened holy retard

For the first point Marx already thought colonialism was destruction he just lowkey conceded that ot was historically enviable

>>2552685
>Wrong
you didn't even watch it, also it cites many sources



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>bro, the king, like, he's good, god chose him, it's like, his corrupt ministers whispering in his ear who are the problem maaaaaaaaaan. let's fuck up his corrupt ministers and bring him our grievances directly. then he'll see that we're on his side and he'll totally purge his corrupt government and abolish serfdom and all these punitive taxes on the peasantry.
<finally gets to meet his precious king
<gets beheaded

false conciousness is a bitch, innit? you see a similar mindset with the russian peasantry leading up to bloody sunday, when they brought nicholas that petition, or even MAGA retards in the USA who think if you elect an "outsider" (billionaire) you can "fight corruption" and "run the government like a business"
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>>2552836
>Except they did totally escalate
and? you don't telegraph your punches. you say you won't escalate, hoping that they will believe it and maybe not immediately crush you with the national army. think for a second, baby brain, do you also think the bolsheviks were social democrats?

>>2552869
>it was a way of saying "we don't want to escalate this to a national revolt,
<they did escalate though
>And? [strawman and moving the goalpost]
yawn

>>2552873
>they said X but did Y? how can this be!?
baby brain

>>2552877
you cannot read and are angry about nothing.




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Turkiye issues arrest warrant for Israel’s Netanyahu over Gaza genocide
Among 37 suspects listed are Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz, National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir and army chief Lieutenant General Eyal Zamir, according to a Friday statement from the Istanbul prosecutor’s office, which did not publish the complete list. Turkiye has accused the officials of “genocide and crimes against humanity” that Israel has “perpetrated systematically” in its war on Gaza since October 2023.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/7/turkiye-issues-arrest-warrant-for-israels-netanyahu-over-gaza-genocide
https://archive.ph/J2bQx

UN approves US-backed effort to lift sanctions on Syria’s president
Syria’s foreign ministry welcomed the vote, saying in a statement that the near-unanimous support “reflects the growing confidence in President al-Sharaa’s leadership” and “represents a victory for Syrian diplomacy, which has succeeded in restoring international recognition of Syria’s status and its pivotal role in the region.”
https://apnews.com/article/united-nations-syria-alsharaa-sanctions-us-trump-951e02a0c9e9384d944d838d4a2f540e

==Tunisian opposition figures join hunger strike to support jailed politician=
Among them is Issam Chebbi, the leader of the centrist Al Joumhouri (Republican) Party, who is also behind bars after being convicted in the same mass trial as Ben Mbarek earlier this year. Wissam Sghaier, another Al Joumhouri leader, said some party members would follow suit. Rached Ghannouchi, the 84-year-old leader of the Ennahdha party, who is also serving a hefty prison sentence, announced he was joining the hunger protest.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/8/tunisian-opposition-figures-join-hunger-strike-to-support-jailed-politician
https://arPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

US to demand countries share data on ‘pathogens with epidemic potential’ in return for health aid
A draft template seen by the Guardian, to be used for memorandums of understanding with partner countries, offers funding to tackle diseases such as malaria, TB, HIV and polio, as well as for activities such as surveillance, and laboratory systems and electronic health records. It suggests that countries will be expected to gradually take over funding these areas themselves over the course of the five-year agreements.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/nov/08/us-countries-share-data-pathogens-epidemic-potential-health-aid

Trump tells Senate Republicans to send federal health insurance money ‘directly to the people’
President Donald Trump proposed a compromise on health insurance payments, calling on Republicans to send federal payments that would go to insurers under the Affordable Care Act directly to Americans to bring an end to the government shutdown.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/08/trump-republicans-health-insurance.html

South Korean solar firm cuts pay and hours for Georgia workers as US officials detain imports
Qcells, a unit of South Korea’s Hanwha Solutions, said Friday that it will also lay off 300 workers from staffing agencies at its plants in Dalton and Cartersville, both northwest of Atlanta. The company says U.S. Customs and Border Protection has been detaining imported components at ports on suspicion that they contain materials that may have been made with forced labor in China, meaning it can’t run its solar panel assembly lines at full strength.
https://apnews.com/article/georgia-solar-plant-qcells-furloughs-china-labor-f49d0579e0584d689f1feec36ff16ad1

Trump calls for ACA subsidies to be sent to consumers
There's no detailed policy proposal to go with the post, but other Republicans and think tanks have proposed changes along Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

The Great October Socialist Revolution inspires our struggle for a world free from class exploitation and imperialist wars
108 years ago, the victory of the October Revolution demonstrated the power of revolutionary class struggle and paved the way for a society free from exploitation, insecurity, poverty, unemployment and war. It became a turning point in the history of humanity, brought to the fore a superior form of social organization, socialism–communism, which is radically opposed to previous exploitative formations. The socialization of the means of production, centrally planned economy and worker participation represented a profound qualitative leap in social development, delivering significant social achievements for the people. Today, as humanity bleeds and is torn apart by imperialist wars and interventions, the first Decree On Peace issued by the new revolutionary power of the Soviets symbolically illuminates the path that the peoples must forge through their struggle.
https://www.eurcomact.org/m-article/The-Great-October-Socialist-Revolution-inspires-our-struggle-for-a-world-free-from-class-exploitation-and-imperialist-wars/

Scotland, NATO, and imperialism: Is the SNP a “threat to national security”?
The media this week, particularly in Scotland, has been ablaze with claims from – not one, not two, but three – members of Starmer’s cabinet that the elected government in Scotland is a “threat to national security”, due to its position on Labour’s militarism. Such statements were said by defence secretary John Healey in the House of Commons on Monday, again by Scotland secretary Douglas Alexander, and yet again by Deputy Prime Minister David Lammy. Lammy’s remarks came across as particularly patronising. Attempting to calm the situation, the Tottenham Labour MP tried to clarify that his pals’ comments were not aimed at ordinary Scots, but at their leaders. Then, attempting to address concerns that he was perhaps not in a position – from his London constituency – to speak on behalf of Scottish people, Lammy stated that he is actually 5 percent Scottish! For anyone not deluded by their recent 23andMe results, it is clear that claims by Westminster politicians that thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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The relativity of time is not just a reason we cannot "travel in space and make it back", it is a utility that can be used to preserve the subjects to travel in FTL speed or even a beam me up scotty wormhole and calculate a journey back to skip time whilst preserving their own biological clocks. In other words indeed a person that is 25 in 2025 may go to another place in space through FTL travel and come back only to see the Earth is gone despite still being 25 years old biologically, but in the same manner if the journey is calculated the subject can effectively skip time for a set period of hundreds of years and if there is hope in development may return to live and benefit from the fruits of it in the future's availed life extension technology if humanity proves successful in not destroying itself, if it does destroy itself. It is effectively time travel into the future and thus any persons who wish to see if the species will succeed and live to see it or live to see if it has been insufficient and unworthy they may be able to do that through space travel. We currently do not possess FTL travel or wormholes, but it is simply the easiest way to be able to time travel into the future. With the development of AI a ship could be able to decide its own course and trajectory safely and be able to calculate how to return, all that is needed is research on the method for propelling and the type of energy consumption and materials needed to be able to initiate FTL, to which particle accelerators may hold an answer to that.
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>>2552514
>>2553291
>cryogenics
Yeah right, and then the cryogenics company goes bankrupt and throws your body out into a landfill. LOL.
You seem to have completely missed OP's point, time relative to a point in space, be it another planet to stay on or moon with the combined time of the journey to travel and come back from would pass differently for the subject than it would here back on Earth. Watch interstellar.

test

>>2553830
didn't that cryo company mega fuck up a bunch of its people like chopping their heads off without consent and let bodies rot and other shit

>>2553830

It's been a while since I watched Interstellar and I don't remember it that well because I thought it was a stupid cheesy movie, but IIRC the time dilation they experience in Interstellar was from being on a planet orbiting very close to a rapidly spinning black hole's event horizon; it had nothing to do with the wormhole they passed through to get to the alien planet. A traversable wormhole is just a shortcut, making a line that is "straighter than straight" so to speak and circumventing the speed of light barrier by physically making the distance between the two points shorter by severely distorting the fabric of spacetime. This doesn't involve any FTL magic and does not violate causality because the two endpoints of the wormhole are in the same reference frame. Lets say we figure out how to build a stable traversable two-way wormhole between our solar system and Alpha Centauri, which is 4.3 lightyears away. This means that when you go through the wormhole to Alpha Centauri, you will have effectively travelled 4.3 years into the future. To an observer watching from the Sol side, your spaceship would simply vanish and it would not reappear at Alpha Centauri until 4.3 years later. From your perspective you would arrive at Alpha Centauri instantaneously but when you observe Earth you will see it as it was 4.3 years in the past because that's how long it takes for information to get there without the wormhole. There would be no time dilation or violations of causality and only through the wormhole could communication between these two locations be possible, not through normal space.

There's different schools of thought on this, and wormholes are purely theoretical sci-fi plot devices more than anything else, but I think that if stable traversable wormholes could exist, the two endpoints must by necessity exist in the same reference frame, otherwise the tidal forces between the two asynchronous endpoints would obliterate both the wormhole and any object or information attempting to traverse it. The wormhole must be a static and perfectly synchronized connection between two fixed points in spacetime, it could only exist for a very short time and would require enormous amounts of energy and probably some form of exotic matter that has negative mass to create and maintain a stable traversable tunnel for long enough to allow an object to pass through and reach the other side.



 

What’s stopping China from helping Detroit?

Think about it. China does foreign policy based on sift power rather than militarism or blackmail. China builds hospitals in Mali in exchange for good, rather than invading and seizing the gold for themselves. China is the reason hundreds of millions of people in Africa have electricity and running water, right? If China can do this, why aren’t they stepping in and helping Detroit rebuild?

China could fund mass construction projects. Build housing all over Detroit that resembles housing in Chinese cities. Build a functioning metro/train system. Build more hospitals. Build better schools that look like wonder museums rather than prisons. Build urban farms to fix the food desert issue. Give Detroit the latest and greatest tech. Bring back millions of jobs. Why not?

China turns shitholes into functioning cities. Just compare their cities from 37 years ago to their cities now. They could easily do the same for Detroit. Trump Administration be damned. Just get the mayor of Detroit to form a working relationship with Xi and the CPC and watch things happen.
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What's stopping America from helping China? A lack of class consciousness and human solidarity among the 99%. And of course the 1% - the capitalists - don't give a shit, because why would they do something unless it directly materially benefits them? Worldwide suffering can only be stopped by worldwide collective action.
>>2524339
Unfortunately superheroes, like most media, are a byproduct of the pro-capitalism zeitgeist so they are never really written with enough nuance to even begin to address the world's problems. The closest you get are indie stories or liberal apologia "I can't solve humanity's problems for them" as if somehow stopping crimes doesn't contradict that https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Superman-Peace-on-Earth

>>2487365
>What’s stopping China from helping Detroit?
Americans.

>>2488150
>AI thumbnail
>Same guy that spread the myth that Haitians eat cats.

Mary Sheffield will work with AOC and Mamdani to save Detroit.

>>2551058
All Sheffield does is take pics with rappers.



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