/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2845980
You had jews in Palestine even before zionism. The Ari synagogue was founded in the 1500s for exemple.

>>2845980
You have a PFLP flag even though the PFLP's position is for a one-state solution in which Jews would be welcome as equal citizens with the same rights as others while rejecting Israel's insistence that their war against Israel is a racial war aiming at eliminating every Jewish citizen and throwing him into the sea.

Jew derangement syndrome.

Based ban

>>2839910
>wordfilter changed discord link to fbi.gov
lel

Brandon Lee responding to the Jacglowbin article on planning

>>2841343
thanks

>>2839910
39 minutes in, Leone Castar says he looks for collaborators do develop a chapter how a postcapitalist judiciary would work. Well, I don’t use Discord or Zoom and I prefer to remain anonymous, so I will just drop my answer in this thread.

JURY SYSTEM

To get inspiration, we start with a brief look at a very simple analytical model: There is a group of people trying to answer some question about reality by voting between two options, one true and one false. Each person in the group got more intelligence than zero, so their chance of picking the right option from the two is a bit better than 50 %. Assume the same percentage for each person, with no particular correlation between people. That’s the model. What follows from this? Three things:

1. The banal thing: The best approach to finding the truth here is to just go with the option that gets more votes, not requiring a super-majority or people voting for representatives who then vote.
   
2. The beautiful thing: We can get arbitrarily close to being correct 100 % of the time if the group is big enough. These two conclusions are known as Condorcet’s Jury theorem.
   
3. A tricky detail: If you have a group size that is odd and you just add one person, the probability that the group gets the right decision just stays where it is. So the group size should be odd.
   
   

When it comes to punishment, I’m thinking of something a bit more complicated than just two options. I think the topic fits into a one-dimensional spatial model. I think such a model fits because we can think of prison time as a quantity shown on a line, and everybody agrees what more or less means here. This agreement is necessary, but not sufficient for a really good fit. It is also necessary that people see themselves as standing on a point on that line. A counter-example: A parliament discusses different proposals for military spending and there might be consensus on how to order these plans from small to big, but the politicians may not all see themselves as standing on one point on that line, but rather with each foot on one end. On that issue, one may be of the opinion: “Go big or go home.”

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>>2845941
you should email your thoughts to him, since I don't think he's aware of the threads
I thought "wall of text"-anon was Leone since it's kind of his posting style but your post directly contradicts this

>>2843656
>19th century
the utopian socialist fourier realized in 1799 that a new system was needed when he was asked to dispose of rice in Marseilles which had been held back from sale due to being unprofitable despite people starving

>>2845106
>anything leftypoloids have to offer
but anon… the screenshot in question contains two leftypol posts

>>2842843
i thought before marx was utopian socialism with pre-marxist "communism" just being a form of that?

>>2843191
>Lafargue
went on to marry Marx's daughter lol. Imagine a guy disses your strats so you fuck his daughter

I think to put my position more clearly. None of this shit, adventurism, militantism, whatever can ever succeed against the US military unless we had greater than 50% of the population on our side. And if we had that, there would be no need to go any other route other than "electoralism" (as Marx prescribed, don't make me post all the quotes, but I will)

>>2845854
>or spontaneously appear inside Latin-American countries
Latin America didn't have landowners and capitalists before the US got involved there? They weren't oppressing peasants? There was no slavery or Indigenous genocide?

>>2845858
>And what did that change or accomplish? Now a probably more right wing politician is in power in Japan.
it did kind of go better than planned because weirdly enough the japanese media and public sympathized with the assassin after hearing his story about a (korean) cult ruining his life. and as a result japan's government passed some new anti-cult laws. it probably ironically contributed to Takaichi becoming prime minister as the "korean cult" aspect fueled japanese nationalist anti-korean rhetoric in the country.

>>2845859
>None of this shit, adventurism, militantism, whatever can ever succeed against the US military unless we had greater than 50% of the population on our side. And if we had that, there would be no need to go any other route other than "electoralism"
you're a fucking retard lol. even the bolsheviks and pla had like less than 10% of their respective countries on their side when the revolutions started.

to be clear I'm not advocating potd or adventurism for its own sake but rather if there was a will for americans to revolt the "military power gap" is not something that can't be addressed when it comes to it. insurgencies primarily rely on hand-made equipment and improvised weapons. even modern day insurgencies are mostly just farmers with pitchforks because believe it or not guns are only effective if your enemy lines up to get shot. if you're being surrounded on all sides in deep urban environments where enemies have endless corners to hide behind, bashing you over the head with a metal pipe is just as deadly as a bullet.

>>2845861
>it did kind of go better than planned because weirdly enough the japanese media and public sympathized with the assassin after hearing his story about a (korean) cult ruining his life. and as a result japan's government passed some new anti-cult laws. it probably ironically contributed to Takaichi becoming prime minister as the "korean cult" aspect fueled japanese nationalist anti-korean rhetoric in the country.
That is true.

>>2845861
>you're a fucking retard lol. even the bolsheviks and pla had like less than 10% of their respective countries on their side when the revolutions started.
This isn't Tsarist Russia in the early 20th century dum dum. You guys are as retarded as Christians. Your gospel has no relevance to our current situation.

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DOJ memo stokes fear among disability advocates of a return to institutionalization
Without the federal government requiring that states provide these services – to help disabled people integrate into their communities – advocates and legal experts warn that cash-strapped states could cut them and return to what was once common practice: de facto segregation of Americans with disabilities in nursing homes and large institutions.
https://www.npr.org/2026/06/20/nx-s1-5865100/doj-memo-trump-disability-civil-rights-institutionalization

US appeals court blocks Trump admin from enacting new plans to slash consumer watchdog staff
A federal appeals court on Friday blocked the Trump administration's plans to immediately slash the workforce at the U.S. Consumer Financial Protection ​Bureau by about two-thirds, delivering a setback to the White House's protracted ‌efforts to shrink the consumer watchdog.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/us-appeals-court-blocks-trump-admin-enacting-new-plans-slash-consumer-watchdog-2026-06-19/

Mamdani won New York opposing Israel. Now, his movement wants power in Congress.
Goldman, a former prosecutor who helped lead the first investigation and impeachment trial against President Donald Trump, and Lander, who cross-endorsed Mamdani when they were both seeking the mayoral nomination, are both Jews who call themselves “liberal Zionists.” … Further uptown, Rep. Adriano Espaillat (D), the influential Congressional Hispanic Caucus chair, is facing a similar line of criticism from Darializa Avila Chevalier, a doctoral student who participated in pro-Palestine encampment at Columbia University and who has slammed the congressman for taking money from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/06/20/nyc-congressional-primaries-will-test-mamdani-aipac-influence/
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France’s Left Can't Abandon Workers to the Far Right Interview with Danièle Obono
In less than a year’s time, France will head to the polls to elect a new president. Two of the dominant figures in French politics over the past decade will not be on the ballot. President Emmanuel Macron is constitutionally barred from seeking a third consecutive term, while Marine Le Pen, leader of the Rassemblement National (RN; formerly Front National), has been barred from running following her embezzlement conviction. In her place, the RN’s thirty-year-old Party resident, Jordan Bardella, is leading polling in both the first and second rounds. The French left, however, remains divided. The relative success of the Nouveau Front Populaire (NFP) — an electoral alliance bringing together much of the Left, in 2024, which emerged as the largest bloc in the National Assembly — has given way to growing tensions between its constituent parties, most notably Jean-Luc Mélenchon’s France Insoumise (LFI) and the Parti Socialiste (PS). In an interview, Thomas Glasman met with Danièle Obono, a France Insoumise parliamentarian for Paris and one of the party’s most prominent anti-racist and internationalist voices, who has served in the National Assembly since 2017. They discussed the fragmentation of the French left, the rise of racialized politics, and how to confront an increasingly powerful far right.
https://jacobin.com/2026/06/interview-france-insoumise-rassemblement-national

The Left Voted Tactically in Makerfield – and the Right Should Take Note
Nobody expected the scale of Andy Burnham’s victory in the Makerfield byelection this morning – including many of those around him. A week ago I was told that canvassing returns were looking strong for Labour in the Greater Manchester seat, giving the party as much as 50% of the vote. While I was certain Burnham could win – particularly after speaking to voters here – I still found that figure hard to believe. In the end Burnham won 55% of the vote, beating Reform UK’s Robert Kenyon by more than 9,000 votes. On the BBC shortly after the result, Mike Tapp, a prominent figure on the Labour right, was trying to play down the result, saying Burnham would have to call a general election in the event of becoming prime minister and deviating frPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2845782
I fear the Bolivian strikers will be massacred. Anyways, thanks news anon.

>>2845801
I mean, this goes for the whole aut-right, like, these are people are only tolerated by the efforts of liberals, and then they throw their whole support behind the 1950s-nostalgic conservatives.

>>2845803
Don't you have that backwards Black Power anon? Isn't it the race of the father that decides? What is your argument for the mother being the decider? Do you have a theory? I guess the absentee father theory certainly works as is the case with Obama, but what if he was raised by his Black father?

>>2845808
White women can’t do Black hair and install white supremacist epistemology in the minds of their children.

>>2845811
>White women can’t do Black hair
Why would your mother be "doing" your hair as a boy?
>and install white supremacist epistemology in the minds of their children.
This is exactly what they say about hapas which typically trend to White father Asian mother. Why do you think that the children would lean more towards a White mother vs White father.

I'm going to presume that Pan-Africanism flag poster is Black. It's funny that some Black people are like:
>Fuck biracial people! Why do they side with their White half?
I wonder. I think it's my White half that makes me side with Black Americans.

>>2802838
ayran – the true aryan choice

Israeli Moment.
https://anfenglishmobile.com/kurdIstan/korucular-goce-zorladigi-koyun-koyunlarini-katletti-230081

>>2844395
>i'm asking about the current ongoing one, not the past ones.
I am talking about the current one. I looked back and couldn't find any evidence for my previous claims, so the PKK got dissolved and is no longer operating in Turkey.

>Respectfully that's such a pants on head retarded take i don't even really understand how you got there
How? Other than in the Cuban Revolution, which originally wasn't even a communist revolution, and the Chinese Revolution, which also wasn't communist mind you (https://solarcollective.comrades.sbs/assets/pdfs/Theses_on_the_Chinese_Question.pdf), fucking off from the populace and starving in the jungle has never worked. Look at Peru, the Philippines, India and even in Turkey, militant tactics have never worked in contemporary attempts of a social revolutions. The working class must be organized in their workplaces and communists should take action with them, not without them. Individualist militant tactics only create the justification for suppression that the bourgeois state needs.

>>2845741
>>2844388
Stop using words you don't understand.

>>2845755
Than give a proper counter-argument instead of saying one liners which have no theoretical value.

>futuristic scifi
>still capitalism and not a planned economy
I guess its lack of imagination.

>>2843702
the star wars universe is literally created because some ancient alien race blew up and the colonized tribals they ensalved and moved all throughout the galaxy were able to reverse engineer their spaceship tech

>>2842873
>idk what's so hard with just taking the W
because on this website we mistake the ruthless criticism of all that exists with endless whining about everything that other people enjoy

State of Emergency declared.

Bolivia's Paz declares state of emergency to break protest gridlock
LA PAZ, June 20 (Reuters) - Bolivia’s political and social crisis intensified on Saturday as President Rodrigo Paz declared a state of emergency, enabling ​wider military deployment to clear blockades and restore order amid protests that have brought the economy to a halt over the past 50 ‌days.

Addressing the nation early Saturday morning, Paz said anti-government blockades were no longer a social protest but an organized attempt to destabilize Bolivia's democracy.

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"There comes a moment when failing to act ceases to be prudence and becomes irresponsibility. And that moment has arrived," Paz said, promising the measure would protect citizens and ensure the flow of essential goods, while warning that those ​continuing disruptions would face legal consequences.

Some opposition lawmakers have warned the emergency measure could further ratchet up tensions, while analysts and legal experts have also said the emergency ​powers could deepen unrest if they lack public support and fail to address underlying causes of protests.

Paz made the announcement just hours after he unveiled a deal struck on Friday with the main union, the Bolivian Workers’ Confederation (COB), that aimed to ease tension.
However, many roads connecting the South American nation's main production center are under the control of rural associations aligned with Morales, ​who were not a part of the negotiations and are continuing to protest mainly in the area of Cochabamba.
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>>2843326
You got it backwards, it's one of the most catholic places on earth, and the teachings of jesus is what makes sudacas sympathetic to """communism""", or rather, the desire for a more humane and egalitarian (I know) society.

That the owners of most of latam are some of the biggest ghouls in human history kinda helps stir the pot too.

no frog suits = no revolutionary potential

>>2844356
Unlike the US that cuckraghi has been licking the boots of for years

>>2844349
When you get genocided then the aftermath rubble is turned to multinational investment zones, you win

>>2844297
>I also find all these crocodile tears from left communists for Palestinians to be silly, we all know the historic left communist position has been that suffering of the masses is good because it brings about revolution
shit no leftcom said award

>>2844297
>Being exploited and alive is better than being dead
I hate religious retards

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