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"turns out conservatives and reactionaries are just dumb after all" edition.

news:
- Your Party is suing itself, more at 11.
- The SNP and Plaid are going to form a "progressive alliance" somehow
- The government's going to do a switcheroo by raising income tax slightly and cutting national insurance to balance it out. (But they won't - follow this to its logical conclusion and scrap NI entirely)
- They're also considering cutting VAT on energy bills (which is the least efficient way of lowering bills you can imagine)
- The board of deputies asked Aston Villa for free footy tickets. In a worrying sign of rising antisemitism, Aston said nah.
- Labour is falling behind the Greens in the opinion polls as their strategy of copying Reform drives away their already-begrudging supporters without winning over any Reform voting reprobates. Nobody could have predicted this.
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>>2577780
>Someone make a new thread
I don't have any funny, sorry. Someone else will have to do it.

>>2577770
Counter fire aren't even an electoral party so pretty funny they've been banned too. What next are you not allowed to be a dual member of YP and the national trust?

>>2577834
Did you forget that the national trust is woke now? Of course that should be an expulsion.

>>2577620
>when stalin hand-wrote the CPGB's 1945 manifesto, he put forward something so anodyne that Your Party could plausibly adopt it.
Stalin fandom is more about a frustrated wish to be a hangman and the attraction to a social media avatar representing implacability, iron discipline and a certain amount of "violence," although AES (actually existing Stalinism) was marked by some incredibly flexible, "opportunistic" tactical maneuvers.




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Knowing the real history of American radical left-wing groups, this film is far too generous about their capabilities. In reality, they wouldn’t have killed any political figure higher than a superintendent, would likely have set off a bomb that killed a good portion of their members or been shot dead and arrested if they actually tried fighting against an armed resistance.
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>>2539975
I think Mao and Nixon raping Vietnam together also contributed

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>>2544451
Marxist-Leninist classic

>>2550192
State opression doesn't make you right, martyr.

This movie was dogshit, a truly embarrassing vanity project for Decaprio.

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>>2577903
Funnily enough, the Falangists ended up becoming a somewhat pro-Soviet RW faction in the West. Their ideology was essentially centered around opposing everything the US supported. There was even a funny incident where Falangists attended World Youth Day in Cuba on a Soviet ship. They actually got along with the Yugoslav Partisans and sang The Internationale with everyone before singing Cara al Sol (the Falangist anthem). At that point, Castro reportedly said something along the lines of:
>"Comrades! I know what you're up to!"
They then gave him a signed copy of José Antonio Primo de Rivera's speeches. Supposedly, Castro had some respect for Jose Antonio as a nationalist (and Che similarly felt the same about Juan Peron)



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If fascisms is capitalist response to a mass organized communist movement, and Trump is arguably a fascist and pushing for fascism, where is the organized communist movement of our day?
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>>2570930
The German fascist National Socialist Party arose in 1919 (the official name — National Socialist German Workers’ Party — reflected the desire of its organizers to exploit the influence of socialist ideas among German workers in the interests of extreme reaction). Amid a deepening political crisis, relying on support from major monopolies and forming an alliance with influential circles in the Reichswehr leadership, the leader (“Führer”) of German fascists, Adolf Hitler, received a mandate to form a government in late January 1933. By staging the Reichstag fire and blaming the communists (see Leipzig Trial, 1933), the German fascists within a few months completely “synchronized” the country, unleashing bloody terror on all democratic and liberal currents, imprisoning and physically eliminating all real and potential opponents of the Nazi regime. After the Communist Party, the Social Democratic Party and all traditional bourgeois parties were banned. All public organizations—especially trade unions—were dissolved; parliament was stripped of its prerogatives; all forms of public oversight over the state administration were abolished. The dictatorship mechanism created by National Socialism included a terror apparatus marked by extreme brutality (SA, SS, the Gestapo, the “People’s Court,” and other organs of fascist justice), an apparatus for organizing influence on the population (the National Socialist Party, the National Socialist Women’s League, the Hitler Youth, the German Labor Front, the “Strength Through Joy” organization, etc.), which controlled all forms of public activity, as well as an apparatus for propaganda control of the masses (headed by the Ministry of Propaganda). In close alliance with the military leadership, Hitler's government carried out a rapid militarization of Germany. A course was immediately taken toward militarizing the economy, accompanied by the implementation of various forms of state-monopolistic regulation (state investments, primarily for military purposes; tax policy; credit policy and planned inflation; administrative control over economic development; forced syndicalization or cartelization of industry; creation of new associations of monopolists, etc.). International agreements limiting Germany’s armaments were broken, and a series of aggressive acts were carried out to strengthen the military-strategic positPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2528259
Trump isn't fascist. He is a liberal. ACP is fascist, and will become popular when the communist movement starts to grow.

>>2571043
Haz is the American ᴉuᴉlossnW.
Screencap this

>>2528259
The capitalists dispense with liberal democracy when they can no longer agree on matters between themselves. This usually happens during a crisis of capitalism which tends to be associated with communist resistance. Economically, fascism mostly boils down to measures reducing overheads of commercial profit.

>>2577948
I guess I'd basically describe fascism as a civil war between the capitalists within a state. It's not really different than an inter-imperialist war but within a state rather than between states.



 

Sooo…….Do you support making drugs legal?
To what limit and why or why not?

Whether for recreational purposes or sale, And how to combat substance abuse and life ruin caused by addiction and children's access to them if they're made fully legal.
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>>2530139
in socialism there is even less reason to criminalize drug use, the problems of drug use spreading through a population will always be less severe than the power struggle between the people selling those drugs illegally.

also life under socialism will be better, people may be able to experiment with drugs from curiosity and not from a desire to cope from the shittyness of life

>>2507952
in my state we're back to smoke shops just selling 4sub tryptamines like its the 2000s or sum shit. tbh its kinda fire that I can just go buy 4-aco-dmt gummies down the street.

nope

>>2501568
Yes because its a healthcare issue. State should have control over this disease by having doctors and other medical professionals administering drugs to addicts with the goal of having them quit completely.

>>2501568

Grow up around anybody who habitualy uses and you will always come to the conlusion that its extremely degenerate. you can make whatever choices you like though.



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Pics are Bambidbar/Numbers 31:13-18. If you are a christcuck or jew, you by definition believe that the Torah or the Torah fanfic that is the bible is the infallible word of God. These books say that when you take a town, you should kill every single person in them besides the young girls which you take as sex slaves. Why do we let these lunatics in left-wing spaces? Sure, you can make a "progressive" interpretation of these books if you erase enough words, but you can do the same with Mein Kampf. There's a reason why Marx and Lenin were so anti-religion, which modern postmodernist "communists" seem to have forgotten.
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>>2576194
Religion is weird and creepy. They also rape children.

>>2576996
Deists are fucking creepy as all hell TBH. I'd trust some illiterate peasant who believes in the big man in the sky over some Newtonian deist.

>>2576873
you're talking to a reactionary who will pretend up is down, left is right, night is day, and then either never respond when you correct him, or simply make the conversation a race to the bottom where he "wins" by being more childish. What's the point?

>>2576873
Saudi islamist cuck lmao

>There's a reason why Marx and Lenin were so anti-religion, which modern postmodernist "communists" seem to have forgotten.
Find me a single modern communist or generally leftist space where people aren't at least mildly suspicious or critical of religion.



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What should I do I humiliated myself by crying and crying endlessly to a troll that win the debate and now I am butthurt and created two threads about how butthurt I am.



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Are there any books defending the (for lack of a better word) "authoritarianism" of the USSR/DPRK and China?

A lot of the defenses of these countries I've seen from Marxists is to try and say they're not as authoritarian as we think or try and show how capitalist countries are equally or more authoritarian. But as someone who sees no problem with it is there any actual defense of the Communist Party having a strong influence?
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Very recentely (2012) brought from state archives, the book of 1965:
https://www.marxistleninists.org/Soviet%20Archives/Molotov%20Letter%20to%20the%20CC%20of%20CPCU/part%201.htm

%%Questions of History, 2011, issues 1-6, 8-11; 2012, issues 1, 3.

The funniest thing is that this document may not belong to Molotov, but to Malenkov, as stated in one of the notes to the publication.
Nevertheless, the magazine calls it Molotov's letter.
This document appears as Molotov's letter to the Central Committee of the CPSU (1964). Published in the magazine Questions of History, issues 1-6, 8-11 for 2011, and issues 1, 3 for 2012. The editorial preface states the following:

Publishing the document stored in the Russian State Archive of Socio-Political History (RGASPI, f. 82, op. 2, d. 198a) V. M. Molotov's manuscript on the personality cult of I. V. Stalin and other problems of party and state life, the editors of the journal "Questions of History" were guided by the desire to publicize the views of one of the leader's closest associates. Molotov bears considerable responsibility for the crimes of the Stalin regime.

Much of the manuscript is devoted to criticism of N. S. Khrushchev and his rule, while it contains a description of many events and facts that are interpreted from the position of a convinced Stalinist.

The publication of V. M. Molotov's manuscript, one must assume, will provoke controversial judgments among readers both regarding the assessment of many events and individuals, and regarding the position of the author himself. There is no doubt, however, that this material will also serve to establish the historical truth in its entirety.

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>>2576213
>>2576267
The communist manifesto is at odds with any concept of liberal or petty-bourgeois socialism.

<The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible.


<Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionising the mode of production.

These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.

<Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.


<1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

<2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
<3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
<4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
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>>2577472
*I forgot to post a link to the text "Marx to Dr. Kugelmann Concerning the Paris Commune":

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1871/letters/71_04_12.htm

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>north korea bad
Stop worrying sbout north korea and pay your roommates rent tardo

>>2576213
You can read pretty much any M-L literature related to the above countries. The defense will be either implicit or present in the book. Personally, I don't think it's worth justifying from either a practical, ethical, or quality of life perspective. I have read Parenti and others who sort of defended the Warsaw Pact and such, but generally speaking while I can appreciate the development, social progress and the social safety nets which were brought by the USSR to Eastern Europe while it was still a shithole, I think the "authoritarianism" attributed by some to the influence of Western imperialism was more destabilizing to the USSR and its allies than anything else in the long run.



 

Dominican Republic grants US access to restricted areas for anti-drugs operations
For a limited time, the US can refuel aircraft and transport equipment and technical personnel at restricted areas within the San Isidro Air Base and Las Americas International Airport, said Abinader, who made the announcement with US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth at his side.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/11/27/dominican-republic-grants-us-access-to-restricted-areas-for-anti-drugs-operations_6747873_4.html
https://archive.ph/YNj34

Peruvian court sentences former President Castillo to over 11 years in prison for rebellion
Peru's judiciary on Thursday sentenced former leftist President Pedro Castillo to 11.5 years in prison for rebellion and conspiracy against the state at the end of 2022, when he unsuccessfully attempted to dissolve Congress and assume broad powers.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/peruvian-court-sentences-former-president-castillo-115-years-prison-rebellion-2025-11-27/

Quebec's new secularism bill targets daycare workers, prayer spaces and religious meals
The bill also invokes the notwithstanding clause pre-emptively, shielding it from challenges under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The legislation is the latest tabled by Legault's Coalition Avenir Québec government, which has been slumping in opinion polls ahead of next year's provincial election.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-secularism-bill-9.6993278

Mark Carney reaches deal with Alberta for oil pipeline opposed by First Nations
The premise of the agreement is to increase oil and gas exports while attempting to meet the federal government’s climate targets. Carney’s government will exempt a possible pipeline project fromPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Don’t trust the government with abolition of most jury trials
PUBLIC anger moves MPs. The government’s retreat on the two-child benefit cap reflects pressure from campaigners and trade unions. But if Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves have had to temper their attacks on the poorest, they have not let up in their administration’s extraordinary authoritarianism. This hit a new low with David Lammy’s proposal this week to abolish jury trials for anything other than rape, murder, manslaughter and certain offences passing a “public interest test;” and to allow judges to determine guilt on their own where the sentence is anything less than five years in prison. This is more extreme even than the proposals by Court of Appeal judge Sir Brian Leveson earlier this year. His recommendation was that defendants should lose the right to opt for a jury trial when the maximum sentence was two years or less.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/dont-trust-government-abolition-most-jury-trials

The Alternative Economic Model of Europe’s Nationalist Right
After the global financial crisis of 2008, Hungary’s Fidesz government was one of the first to adopt a partially heterodox, national-conservative set of economic policies. It was to become a role model for many nationalist right-wing parties. By 2015, the Law and Justice party (PiS) administration in Poland was seeking to emulate it. This made Hungary and Poland forerunners of novel forms of right-wing nationalism that blended concepts of nationalist neoliberalism in selective ways with neoconservative ideas. What can the experience of these two countries tell us about the viability of this approach to managing capitalist economies, as the nationalist right continues to advance across Europe and North America?
https://jacobin.com/2025/11/economic-nationalism-right-poland-hungary

Communist Party of India (Marxist): RSS – Roots and Wings of Authoritarianism
ELEVEN years of rule of the Modi government has seen a drastic and dangerous erosion of democracy in India. This is not confined to just the electoral system but to all round dismantling of democratic rightsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>Dominican Republic grants US access to restricted areas for anti-drugs operations
Yet another confirmation that the DR only exists to be a nazi state for nazis to do nazi things. Fucking fake-ass bullshit nation propped up by imperialists and enslaver-aristocrats whose only meaningful output is hollow commodified imitations of Haitian culture and cheap sweatshop t-shirts with swastikas on them.

This post approved by the Haitian Diaspora

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Thanks News Anon

Tybna




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someone also replied with this

>My grandparents are like that, they have photos of Abdel Nasser and his family in their living room, treating him like a Saint. But if you were to ask them anything about actual Arab nationalist philosophy, they wouldn't know. All my grandparents know is that things were better back then, my Granddad would be provided a job that supported his family and there wasn't any filth on the streets. To a large extent, things were indeed better back then and that's just how it is for most people, these people believe and worship the State and the Leader, they don't give a shit about Ideology. As long as it's not openly 'heretical' to the values of people, the masses will believe in it
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>>2422283
the president/congress controls US foreign policy not the price of commodities on the world market 2/10 gothca

>>2334358
I'm too autistic to succumb to peer pressure.

If the masses don't want to reckon with their own stupidity, they will reckon with their own extinction.

Or do you think being a brainlet carries no consequence?

>>2576863
Not that guy, but obviously, the point he and I want to make is that we need to be pragmatic and adopt realistic approaches. As capitalism collapses we have to work within the new systems. The real end result will probably be some form of Caudillismo and strongman rule, and Socialists and Communists will need to learn to work within that

>>2576893
The unfortunate truth is that fascism is historically progressive compared to liberal democracy.

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Climate Change is the biggest threat to humanity and nobody is doing anything about it, 10 years ago we would hear about it in the news and people would protest but people don’t even do that anymore. The only solution to stop the world from being destroyed in 10 years is to nationalize the extraction industry so we only burn as much fossil fuels as we need until we can fully convert to renewable energy but nobody will do that because that’s communism. Conservatives like to deny that climate change exists and censor journalists and scientists who speak the truth while liberals like to say “It’s Trump’s fault!” Even though they are just as responsible because Obama and Biden did nothing to stop this. The only hope I ever feel when reading the news about climate change is hearing about China’s clean energy infrastructure, it’s so good that I have to end this on it so I don’t have a mental breakdown.
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>>2576583
>and we'll also build a huge train that goes around the world too what could go wrong anons

it's not over until it's over

the goalposts will just be moved from preventing large-scale mass extinction/ecocide (already happening/happened) to preventing the earth from hitting the sort of runaway warming w/ water vapor as a greenhouse gas that made venus the way it is.

>>2567053
if you believe this you should hire a legal guadian because you're too stupid to be trusted around stovetops and blenders

>>2567051
I'm already stockpiling precious metals!

>>2576807
Indonesia is like the fifth largest economy in the world



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