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Knowing the real history of American radical left-wing groups, this film is far too generous about their capabilities. In reality, they wouldn’t have killed any political figure higher than a superintendent, would likely have set off a bomb that killed a good portion of their members or been shot dead and arrested if they actually tried fighting against an armed resistance.
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>>2550192
How popular is Marxism among the Pakistani youth, comrade?

>>2547759
What’s the difference between being in a polycule and a situationship at that point, besides a bunch of other people know about it?

>>2596700
The same advice the Vietnamese gave to the Weather Underground, try to organize and send letters to your congressmen, donate some money if you can to orgs you think are valid and have good track records. If some of you are really desperate to fight, you can find a conflict looking for volunteers, just get fit before that, because otherwise you’ll be wasting everybody’s time.
>>2596717
No one supports Marxism proper, except for a handful of extremely minor political groups. The mood here is cynical, as our Chief of the Army gave himself a position from which he can never be removed and now has complete power over the Army, Navy, and Air Force, so a dictator in all but name, though there is still a sham democracy. But as I said, the hope is China. Chinese solar panels are now used by around 25% of the country, people here trust China more than the government, and there is a widespread view that the “China system” (as laypeople understand it) will be better than anything we’ve had before.

>>2594537
I disagree somewhat with his take, but he's not wrong. Films have normalized a lot of disturbing behavior. but I’d say it’s less about action movies and more the cruelty in popular comedies and horror films, where we often see scenes of child distress or women being graphically and violently murdered or tortured. I do think it’s more of a director’s fetish, and I believe people on the left should be calling this out more.

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>>2551061
I genuinely despise Western leftists more than liberals and I really hate liberals. At least liberals engaged in politics in a way that made sense, but the former genuinely believe their petty acts of vandalism in high-trust societies are some glorious form of resistance. They act like they’re the sole reason the Vietnam War ended. It’s hard not to utterly hate them.



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Maryland politics

Politics pertaining to maryland

For the discussion maryland and its future

Maryland residents prefered

Why is there no maryland meme flag?
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I used go live in the Baltimore area. Does that count?

What's with those half US, half confederate flags everywhere? It's been 150 years, pick a damn side already.
Also Old Bay sucks

Bump

>>2598864
Last time I was there my first experience was at a train station hearing this dude talking to some other dudes about shooting people like he was Soulja Boy. He was doing the moves.

>>2598864
Why is there no general for Baden-Württemberg?



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Britpol 's unconcerned with cornish republicanism, we cornu holio have been occupied by brits for 1000s of years, we WANT A REPUBLIC.
FUCK THE UK Kernow Bys Vyken
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>>2617131
The guy is this video is literally an open fascist by the way.
He's an American Jew who immigrated to the UK, he's an ultra Zionist, a white nationalist, and an fascist with some autistic obsession on "saving" the Welsh and Cornish people.

This is the Cornish leftist group btw who you should be following if you are interested in Cornish liberation https://sordya.net/


>>2617123
This holds as a general rule, but shouldn't really. The cluster of German speaking countries independent of one another, the failure of Pan-Arabism, and perfectly viable small-scale states like Singapore all speak to the possibility of having somewhat arbitrary states.
(Though Britain is probably best compared to Yugoslavia. Just because they all speak "Serbo-Croatian" doesn't mean they like each other!)


>>2617106
Cornwall is one of the poorest regions of the UK (and with that, one of the poorest in Northern Europe)
The old, rich people are holiday home owners giving the people who live in Cornwall all year the worst of both worlds: low incomes, high house prices and rent.

>>2617282
There are several smaller independent countries. Perhaps we should weigh the US's population against China and India and conclude that it, too, is tiny and irrelevant.



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>Israel has recognised Somaliland, a breakaway region of Somalia, as an "independent and sovereign state," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Friday, making Israel the first country to do so.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-recognises-somaliland-somalias-breakway-region-independent-state-2025-12-26/

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These are the christian nigerians trump is so desperately "protecting"

>>2617224
that is really sad, you can see how cruel his parents are
hopefully the kid will get the emotional support they need in the future

>>2617224
That's brutal. Not only do your parents diss you but now you'll probably get bullied at school for not having a BBC

Hope whichever faction is genociding the Christians is successful



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I've been on this site long enough to get a superficial understanding of Marxist politics, but I've officially passed the Dunning-Krueger peak, where I've realized how superficial that knowledge is. So in an attempt to deepen my understanding of the subject, I have a few questions.

People say that gradual reforms won't work, with the cited reason being that, so long as the bourgeois element is allowed to exist in any significant capacity, it will burrow its way into government and reassert control. But doesn't China disprove that? Their entire plan is to gradually reform their market economy into "full" socialism.

On that note, from what I understand, "capitalism has inherent contradictions that will lead to its downfall" is really just a fancy way of saying that the relationship between the bourgeois and proletariat is an antagonistic one, and eventually the proletariat will get fed up with it and assert control. But is this actually a given? I could easily see a scenario where technology allows the bourgeois to assert permanent control, using robots to replace the proletariat and surveillance and weapons to quell any opposition. I could also see the opposite happening, where capitalism keeps rewinding itself to earlier states indefinitely, creating a situation where life is "good enough" that people don't feel the need to rebel.

Dialectics in general confuse me. Every time I think I have a grasp on them, I'll have someone else loudly proclaim that I'm wrong. If I ask for correction, the explanation provided is so long-winded and convoluted that I end up with more questions than answers. Can someone please give me a basic, working definition of what dialectics are in the context of Marxism? They seem so fundamental to Marxist analysis, and without understanding them, I don't feel like I can actually properly understand any of what I'm looking at.

Finally, I frequently hear people say that we're going to be entering a China lead multipolar world order. That sounds like like a (logical) contradiction to me. Doesn't the term "multipolar" imply multiple leaders?

Note that I don't ask these questions with any ideology in mind. I find much of what I read here incredibly confusing, and my ignorance has been punished enough that I figured it's high-time I do something about it.

>inb4 read a book

I plan to do that as well. I just thought I'd come to you guys so I have a startinPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2616729
>per capita
Read my post again. CAPITALISTS (not billionaires/millionaires - the first is a relation to the MoP, the second is a description of how much cash money you have; one is a social relation, the other is not) as a POLITICAL CLASS. You are fucking poison to the movement, dude.

>>2616736
Cause it's capitalist. Wage labor.

>>2617050
>I ask every leftcom this and never get an answer, so try to keep up.
>There was a planned economy. Therefore, there was no unemployment. Therefore, there was no labor market. Labor power was not a commodity. Therefore, there was no generalized commodity production. If labor power is not a commodity, then the surplus appropriated (which acts as a reproduction fund, read the Gotha Critique) was not appropriated in a capitalist way. The social division of labor wasn't forced by arbitrary market dynamics; it was planned. So where is the capitalism? Where? Can you show me the capitalist class—as a political body—appropriating surplus via wage-work? You can't. That’s the issue: you are hallucinating critiques based on false narratives from bourgeois alphabet agencies.

>>2615896
>Robots could produce surplus
Value is socially necessary abstract human labor. Machines, whether automated or “self-reproducing” do not create new value. They only transfer the value already embodied in them. If production becomes fully automated, the value of commodities tends toward zero, because the socially necessary labor time tends toward zero.

>>2617234
I think we fundamentally agree but you think the logic of capitalism would break down under a full automated system and there would be no way for the capitalist to extract the surplus value.



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The more you read into the history of Stalin and Trotsky and their respective followers, the more you will realize that Stalin was right and Trotsky was at best an idealistic retard and at worst a literal fascist collaborator that literally wanted Nazi Germany to destroy the USSR.

Trotsky was basically an Osama Bin Laden type figure that railed against Stalin because Stalin didn't immediately abolish the state, abolish the family, pursue muh "permanent revolution" aka embroil the USSR into ill-fated wars and other idealist bullshit that had no basis in the actual material conditions of the time. How dare that Stalin works worth the material conditions and historical context and develop the state to advance proletarian interests – it's all "bureaucracy" and Trotsky is out of power so therefore Stalin must go and he must literally be assassinated (This Trotsky advocated for).

After all this it becomes clear the justification for Stalin's "purges" of these terrorist assholes trying to destroy the USSR. It's amazing that the USSR survived WW2 and constant subversion from these pseudo-fascist retards. It's a testament to Stalin's strength and competence that this is so.
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Koba was right

>>2617087
>man evolves his thinking and strategy in light of new experiences and consequences of his past strategy
<this is bad somehow hehe

>>2617094
Stalin was right(wing)


>>2617099
He was an elightened centrist



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got mad having to constantly hear from stirnites so i made this to cope. how the fuck does an ideology like this even continue to exist?

literally every time someone even says something pro-com, there's always a fucking stirnite in the corner of the room chuckling to themselves, waiting for their mom to call them home for chicken nuggies and appy juice
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Stay spooked lmao.

But for real, are there still stirnites around?

>>2562552
Fuck off to Siberia.

>>2611495
This is like Maoism but with multiple steps

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>>2563065
His grave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/162563267/max-stirner

And John Henry McKays book on him "Max Stirner, his Life and Work"

https://files.libcom.org/files/Mackay%20-%20Max%20Stirner%20-%20His%20Life%20and%20His%20Work.pdf

Combined with documents mentioning him and linking Max Stirner with Johann Caspar Schmidt

http://max-stirner-archiv-leipzig.de/max_stirner.html

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>>2616892
History repeats



 

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>>2615262
p much

>>2615266
Alright, I will do it then


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>>2614484
Is this from Made in Abyss?



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someone also replied with this

>My grandparents are like that, they have photos of Abdel Nasser and his family in their living room, treating him like a Saint. But if you were to ask them anything about actual Arab nationalist philosophy, they wouldn't know. All my grandparents know is that things were better back then, my Granddad would be provided a job that supported his family and there wasn't any filth on the streets. To a large extent, things were indeed better back then and that's just how it is for most people, these people believe and worship the State and the Leader, they don't give a shit about Ideology. As long as it's not openly 'heretical' to the values of people, the masses will believe in it
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>>2576863
Not that guy, but obviously, the point he and I want to make is that we need to be pragmatic and adopt realistic approaches. As capitalism collapses we have to work within the new systems. The real end result will probably be some form of Caudillismo and strongman rule, and Socialists and Communists will need to learn to work within that

>>2576893
The unfortunate truth is that fascism is historically progressive compared to liberal democracy.

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>>2576897
Didn't Lenin literally say that?

This thread is still alive? …..



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Redpill me on Radio Free Glowrope.

Please provide sources. I will buy everything you say but have in turn libby friends to convince.

I'm personally more interested in what they're up to right now than their historical background. The short and sweet of the latter is by the way nicely provided by wikipedia, which however doesn't say much about the current state of things (which may be for the better).

<Radio Free Europe was created and grew in its early years through the efforts of the National Committee for a Free Europe (NCFE), an anti-communist CIA front organization that was formed by Allen Dulles in New York City in 1949.[17][18] RFE/RL received funds covertly from the CIA until 1972.[11][12]



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