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Comrade, forgive me, for I have sinned

Today, something happened whilst I was doorknocking that I believe I won't ever be the same after. It was a large apartment building, you'd think it was an Eastern European commie block from the outside, though it's as well maintained as they were before the fall of the Eastern Bloc. Nonetheless, me and a far older comrade (70 years old) went down the stairs to the 5th floor. We rung a first door, waited a couple seconds, nothing. It's fine. We rung the door next to it, and waited again before heading towards the next door, however we immediately tensed up when we heard chains clanging. The first door we had rung was going to be opened. So, we immediately went back towards it, and greeted the man inside. From the looks of it, he was old, not that old, but old nonetheless. 50? 55? Doesn't matter. And we said the usual things we did: "Good afternoon, we have a little flyer, it's about the mayoral elections-", my comrade said, before being interrupted. The man who had answered the door was visibly angry, and told us that he did not care for left, right, center, up, down or anything else, as he had known this city under the left and the right. His father died in 2009, and he had to take care of his handicapped, sick and dying mother. She died in 2017. In 2009, we, the COMMUNISTS, were in power, and he went to town hall and we simply said we couldn't do anything. We *wouldn't* do anything. He worked day and night, incredibly long hours, he worked his ass off, and had to take care of his sick mother. By himself. We lost the city in 2014, and the situation remained exactly the same. My comrade kept trying to convince him, but I remained silent. I just couldn't come to terms with it… we LET his mother die. We KILLED her. WE have blood on our hands. US. Not anybody else, no, WE.

And he works from 12AM to 1AM, he works security. He works day and night, like I said, and now he's going to retire soon, and you know what? He has so little to retire with. We did nothing to help him. We've stood passively by, allying ourselves with the closest bourgeois leftslop party in order to not collapse, and we did nothing to help him. And people like him. I just can't believe it… We're… We're BOURGEOIS. WE are BOURGEOIS. WE are complicit in the murder of hundreds of millions, no, BILLIONS of people. And this isn't the only thing that happened today. I was biking to the apartment building, following the rePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2693549
>we're bourgeois
>party
Duh.

>>2693549
>I'll just keep going and going and going and if I have to make my own party, then so be it.
No way this is the lesson learned



 

"Superbigote es inocente" Edición

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Delcy Rodríguez eliminates Chavista missions (social programs -Welfare Spending-) and foundations via decree
>The acting president, Delcy Rodríguez, ordered the immediate abolition of several Chavista missions and foundations operating from Miraflores, after signing decree 5.248 published in the extraordinary Official Gazette 6.985. The measure eliminated entities that had been living off the public budget for years.
>Among the liquidated bodies are theRobert Serra Homeland Youth Mission Foundation and the Presidential Office of Special Plans and Projects, structures that managed millions of dollars without oversight. Also eliminated were Propatria 2000, José Félix Ribas, and the Bolivarian Revolutionary Movement of the Active Reserve.
>The most sensitive blow was the disappearance of the Strategic Center for Security and Homeland Protection (Cesppa), the body responsible for monitoring, classifying, and censoring "sensitive" information for the Chavista regime.
>Only the Socialist New Frontier of Peace Mission partially survived after being transferred to the Foreign Ministry.

https://www.scribd.com/document/998320444/Gaceta-Oficial-Extraordinaria-6985

Maduro status?

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Release Maduro you ugly yank chimps

So Delcy is going full Lenin Moreno?



 

Capitalism has changed a lot since Marx lived. Some people say it has not changed much. But it has. We are now in what many call the Fourth Industrial Revolution. Technology moves very fast even if the mode of production itself is still in place. Goods are changing too. Machines and software now do much of the work. Companies do not always sell software as something you buy once and own forever. Instead, they rent it to you. You pay every month. You do not truly own it. It's not like the food you eat. This does not prove Marx was wrong. It can actually support his method, if we see his ideas as a study of real social systems that change over time. The commodity, or good for sale, has not disappeared. It has changed shape. It has become more abstract and varied in its specific forms. When some commodities become a subscription, buying and selling does not end. The purchaser's true ownership ends. Companies learned that in the digital age, control brings more profit than simple ownership. The commodity is no longer just a thing. It is a controlled stream of access. Profit comes again and again over time. This is not a world beyond capitalism. It is capitalism finding new ways to control time and space. Automation also does not destroy capitalism’s basic rules. But it creates problems for them. If human labor creates value, and machines replace workers, then the system weakens its own base. Yet capitalism does not simply fall apart. It adapts. It grows through finance. It strengthens copyright and patents. It creates artificial scarcity, even when goods could be copied easily. It turns genocide into a spectacle for people to watch and get anxious about happening to them. Social media turns daily life into data that can be sold. The factory has not vanished. It has spread into warehouses, data centers, and computer systems that track workers. Wage labor still exists. It is just more divided, watched, and pushed across the globe to find the cheapest workers. This shows a new tension. Technology can now produce goods in great amounts, often at very low cost. But the system of private ownership and profit limits access. Subscription models, digital locks, and cloud systems are legal tools that keep control in private hands. Capitalism is not stuck. It is active and flexible. But it still faces crises. It survives by reorganizing power in more complex ways. It makes production global and social, yet keeps profit private. It also harms the planet. This deepens the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2693213
i didn't bother to read your post but both your pictures are retarded
the falling rate of profit comes from an increase in constant capital (machinery) relative to variable capital (labour power)

>>2693337
>the falling rate of profit comes from an increase in constant capital (machinery) relative to variable capital (labour power)

that is what is being depicted



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Modern communists have bought into Marx's propaganda towards the proletariat wholesale, and forget that Marx's designation of the proletariat as revolutionary subject is purely pragmatical.
Communism, for Marx, is the liberation of humanity from the logic of capital and wage labour. He simply agitated the proletariat because it was politically expedient to do so: they are the majority, they are less intelligent on average and thus more receptive to agitation, and so forth. And in his propaganda to that end he romanticized its class characteristics, but never actually believed it himself. Marx understood, like all revolutionaries (and Lenin later made crystal clear), that the real drivers behind all revolutions are an elite cadre of intellectuals influencing the masses towards an aim.
Now, if you don't understand that elites (in some form or the other) are the actual drivers and the masses their tools, you are like a blood-and-soil fascist revolutionary who forgets that, in his agitation of the white working class towards class collaboration and the exclusion of other races, you actually secretly have contempt for the lower class, even those of your own race. This is the 'in the know' secret you must know and embrace inside as a revolutionary of any kind, but never make public to the subject you're trying to agitate. No revolutionary is 'egalitarian'. The egalitarian is naive enough to presuppose that his revolution would never need him. This is why horizontalists must believe themselves and their ideas to be superfluous.
That is not to say that Marx necessarily found the proletariat contemptible or disdainful. But that he knew they needed to be agitated by a well-crafted, easy to digest propaganda. And like all revolutionaries, he genuinely believes in his end goals and their nobility.
So my problem with Stalin or [insert failed revolutionary] would not be that he was a traitor to the cause or some egotist preoccupied with power and control while abandoning the cause of communism. No, he was simply not pragmatic enough.
Everything comes down to pragmatism. We should be communists because we believe it advances humanity in tangible ways, without being so naive as to fall for our own romanticisation of humanity.
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Lenin wasn't standing atop the proletariat's shoulders, but the soldiers. Sure, you can call the red army soldiers proletariats organized through soviets, but they're still armed and not representative of the proletariat as a whole.
Same with Mao, Castro, Ho Chi Minh, and Kim Il Sung.
If the study of revolutions has taught us anything, it's that securing loyalty of an armed force comes first and foremost.

>>2692342
It is true that vanguardism of an elite cadre has played a role in most successful uprisings since late antiquity, and that uprising of a purely lower class vintage (especially peasant revolts and slave revolts) usually failed. but idk about your other conclusions. they seem a bit… overcooked.

>>2692342
>Everything comes down to pragmatism.
…Pragmatism is an American ideology and America is the most successful country….

>they are less intelligent on average and thus more receptive to agitation
kys polyp fuck

>>2693000
This is all a distinction without a difference to me.
>securing loyalty of an armed force comes first and foremost
When it's time to actually strike, yes. What comes first is the organized cadre of revolutionaries with a concrete programme and a receptive revolutionary subject.
>>2693185
What parts are overcooked?
>>2693196
<section of the population most deprived of education and wealth turns out to be less intelligent on average
>polyp!



 

People such as the Italian communists never claimed that its necessary to wait for revolutionary periods before educating and leading the class, there are however limited contexts where which communist intervention can be effective. Marx and Engels agree with the Italian left, as shown in the quote below:

<In Germany it looks more like revolution every day. In Berlin and Barmen menacing crowds of laid-off workers are roaming the streets. […..] I think that in a fortnight the storm will break in Prussia. If this opportunity passes without being used, and if the people allow that to happen, we can then calmly pack up our revolutionary paraphernalia and devote ourselves to pure theory.

— Engels to Marx. 11 June 1866

Of course its necessary for communists to stay in touch with each other, so is collectively working to overcome the challenges we face, but hitting the streets with pamphlets and slogans isn’t always the best option, and tailing bourgeois organizations is off the table altogether. Communists dont chase popularity with a disorganized mass of individuals, they move to lead and intensify the class struggles of workers organized as workers.

The subjective factor of the revolution isn’t floating in the void waiting to be summoned with the right mix of slogans or chants, either the requisite class organization really and concretely exists, or it does not. We either push to reinforce class autonomy beforehand, or nothing happens when tensions run high.
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All of you are getting proletanized by 2050

>>2692357
and people who got just got laid off arent that?

>>2692372
i know the reference but your post is still silly

>>2692276
100% agree

>>2692276
Ok? And?

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>>2692403
my goal is to consume so little and save so much that i never get fully proletarianized and therefore never become exploiter or exploited. why? because i am a coward. Is proletarianization the destiny of most? yes. is it statistically unlikely i will avoid that destiny? yes. am i foolish for even trying? yes. but the exploiter sells the rope he is hung with, and the exploited are the wretched of the earth. if I can avoid being either of those i will.



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why cant the left meet the moment for new theories ?? theirs absolutely no revolutionary theory on the left. just endless history discussion . you all look back when you should look foreword
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If you guys cant understand nuance how about this. The state tskes ownership of businesses snd property and everyone gets one stonk share.

>>2692732
0.000%

>>2692814 (me)
Coming back and reading my post again, I realize that I contradict myself a bit when I condemn "arguing about what Marx and Lenin really meant", just before imploring us to learn "our real history".

What I really meant to say was this: we can and should argue about what Marx and Lenin really meant (at interminable length, if needed), but we can't rely solely on what Marx and Lenin said: both existed as participants in a thriving socialist movement, and we need to evaluate their arguments in the context of what their political allies and opponents were doing. It is no longer enough to quote Marx and Lenin and thereby rest your case: you have to reconstruct why their arguments were relevant then, and why exactly you think they remain relevant today. I've got to go now, but a perfect example would be Marx's reply to the Gotha Unification Program: Marx's arguments should be considered, but so should the immense empirical evidence that the Gotha Program did work to unify and dramatically grow the socialist movement.

Lenin's strategy was historically specific to Russia in the early 20th century, a basically pre capitalist state. The fact that people in advanced western societies still advocate this strategy is beyond retarded.
Larping as if unions "soviets" or the need to advance the productive forces is at all relevant and necessary. The technology to make communism is already possible.

>>2692984
I've been reading a book, "Armed Insurrection", put out by the soviet union/comintern (mostly written by Tukhachevsky), and it seems to draw the totally wrong conclusions from their recent history. Like the bolsheviks spent a long time building up the Red Guards, and that's ultimately what saved the soviets and won them the popularity to lead them and thus win over the soldiers, the rest being history. The book, which tries to be a guide for other communists to follow, focuses heavily on slogans and showcases the comintern-pushed totally unprepared insurrection in germany in 1921 or something where they literally armed union workers with clubs and then tried to start a country-wide insurrection that would lead to them taking power by simply declaring it in one city where they didn't even know if they had any armed (with clubs!) and supportive workers. The literally fired the guy in charge when he started training people with guns. Then put him back in charge and told him "insurrection by tomorrow, glhf". And it failed, obviously. They seemed to have no clue what Lenin's method actually was.

This fact seems super relevant to the question of tactics among revolutionary communists, especially maoists, who contrast the "leninist insurrectionary" method with mao's ppw. Even the comintern didn't know what lenin's methods were and how to successfully replicate urban insurrection! Plus there was no contest of governments in germany at the time, huge L. Imagine if the bolsheviks simply declared an insurrection before the soviets even existed and without the militia that stood down Kornilov. In September 1917 lenin writes about how it would have been wrong to begin insurrection even a few months earlier, in July!

So my point is… the words of our past revolutionaries might be worse than worthless, actually dangerous, if we don't analyze them in context of the actual history of what happened and base our understanding on that.



 

Are there legitimate reasons for leftists to oppose biracialism?

A lot of Black liberationists (including Frantz Fanon) have brought up the issues with inter-racial relationships on the basis they are largely a product of colonialism and imperialism. Colonized peoples face tremendous pressure to change themselves to be more palatable to whiteness. This includes being in romantic relationships with who’re people and having babies with whites.

That may not seem like a big deal but it actually matters a lot. Black intergenerational wealth is one such issue. When a rich or upper-middle class Black guy has children with a white (or non-Black) woman, his wealth gets passed down to mixed hands, not Black hands. This makes it much harder for the Black community as a whole to acquire intergenerational wealth since all of their wealth is being inherited by biracials. Black biracials who were raised by white mothers in particular also report feeling huge psychological problems because their white mothers always held them to white cultural norms and deprived them of their blackness. Plus, there is a huge attempt by the white supremacist media to highlight biracials as opposed to actual Black people. Look at how Drake and Kehlani are propped up by pop culture as opposed to authentic Black people like Doechii.

Personally, I think leftists need to start being critical of this phenomenon since it has implications for liberatory politics and anti-imperialism. Groups like the NOI have always opposed biracial baby-making and I think we should learn from them.
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> has children with a white (or non-Black) woman, his wealth gets passed down to mixed hands, not Black hands.
this happens very frequently in latin america as any successful person from from low class native/black/mestizo background marries into the criollo upper class and so do their children with the end result being that everyone is "technically" mixed but the upper classes have way more european ancestry and they all worship and identify with european/american culture first

>>2692890
Malcolm X was biracial.

>>2692890
This is quite literally the Black capitalist argument.

>intergenerational wealth

Dropped


You support racial segregation because you hate blacks.
I support racial segregation because I don't want minorities to be consumed by mayo ghouls.
We are not on the same side, but maybe we should be.



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UK terrorism ban on Palestine Action group unlawful, court rules after appeal
Britain's ban on pro-Palestinian campaign group Palestine Action as a terrorist organisation was ruled unlawful by London's High Court on Friday, though the ban will temporarily remain in place and the government said it would appeal against the decision. Palestine Action was proscribed in July, having increasingly taken "direct action" against Israel-linked defence companies in Britain, often blocking entrances or spraying red paint.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/uk-terror-ban-pro-palestine-group-unlawful-court-rules-after-appeal-2026-02-13/

Reform UK passes ‘extreme risk’ budget at flagship local authority
Opposition parties at Kent County Council warned the 3.99 per cent council tax increase would leave reserves “dangerously low” and the authority’s “highest ever exposure to financial risk” totalling more than £410 million on the risk register. The levy is 1 per cent less than the limit before a referendum is required.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/reform-uk-passes-extreme-risk-budget-flagship-local-authority

Macron calls for 'mandatory electoral bans' for people guilty of anti-Semitic or racist acts
He also attacked what he described as "far-left antisemitism", saying it "rivals that of the far right", and "anti-Semitism that uses the mask of anti-Zionism to advance quietly". Macron also said he wanted "mandatory electoral bans" for officials guilty of "anti-Semitic, racist, and discriminatory acts and remarks".
https://www.france24.com/en/france/20260213-macron-calls-for-mandatory-electoral-bans-for-people-guilty-of-anti-semitic-or-racist-acts
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Technologists, scientists oppose CICC’s move to blocPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2691325
So we're invading cuba next

thank you news anon

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Bunch of goofy Brits who are privileged and can do this performative nonsese while actual gazans can’t and die form starvations . I hate you British scum at lefty pol much

that image goes hard

>>2691757
Sorry that British leftists haven't single handedly destroyed Israel



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YO TRICKSHOTTED YO BOYS
SQUIDGAME SOCIAL-DEMOCRACY WEALTH DISTRIBUTION OF A SELECTION OF CONTESTANTS IN CONNECTED WEALTHY FAMILIES
WASP PRIDE FIRST WORLD WIDE

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Divided into 20 teams

Hey man im hispanic and im going to whoop your ass. Had nuf of you punks.

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Mr Breast take me for your waiting challenge I can wait decades put me in a circle I will wait decades

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So this is what passes for "informed and productive discussion" now. Bizarre incoherent Timecube-eqsue rants that would have been autosaged in /siberia/ not that long ago.



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Xi ping has a phd in marxism.
What does he know that the rest of us dont?
Do you think he makes economic decisions based on things such as the rate of explotation or the falling rate of profit?
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>>2689295
me transforming into a classical economist after reading adam smith (studying is the exact same thing as believing something)

>>2692131
Yes the nepo baby leading a manufacturing and exploitative superpower with several stock exchanges is more of a communist then Mao.

>>2692261
Mao was born to a rich landlord family

Xi was born to a disgraced party official (proletarian), and sent down to the countryside as a youth

>>2692222
nice quads
also it's kinda funny because smith and marx have more in common with each other than either of them do with the contemporary neoliberal economic priesthood.

>>2692699
marx and engels cite smith as the discoverer of the source of surplus value:
<Thus even Adam Smith knew “the source of the surplus-value of the capitalist,” and furthermore also of that of the landlord. Marx acknowledged this as early as 1861
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1885-c2/ch00.htm#1885



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