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Islamic Resistance™️ in Iraq edition

>The first day of the funeral procession for the late Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, who died alongside family members at the beginning of the US-Israel war on Iran, has come to a close.
<UK and French leaders issued a joint statement regarding the Strait of Hormuz, describing it as “a vital artery for the global economy” and stressing that “restoring safe transit for ships of all nations through the strait is a matter of global concern”.
>Tehran pledged to deploy every available judicial and diplomatic channel to challenge what the Iranian president characterised as unlawful acts perpetrated against the country by the US and Israel.
<Israeli settlers stepped up their incursions and land seizures across the occupied West Bank, launching assaults that involved taking over or destroying Palestinian homes and vandalising critical infrastructure, including water springs, power lines and greenhouses.
>The Israeli military announced that it targeted approximately 10 “Hezbollah infrastructure sites” across southern Lebanon.
<Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu held talks with US President Donald Trump, and the two leaders agreed to hold a meeting in the United States. According to the International Organization for Migration (IOM), upwards of 640,000 displaced individuals in Lebanon have gone back to their homes following a US-Tehran agreement signed last month that incorporated a ceasefire in Lebanon.
>Yemen’s Houthis warned they will target Saudi Arabian airports and critical infrastructure if Riyadh breaches their airspace or launches an attack, following accusations by the Iran-backed group that the kingdom committed an airspace violation.
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Khubz >>2874490
>>2874490
>>2874490

>>2874488
>mass support
lol

>>2874493
Sir this is (allegedly) a Marxist board, take your metaphysics back to the modded hoi4 subreddit

>>2874493
what they said was correct tho

>>2874491
maybe. on the other having to defend on the other side of the country would split irans capabilities. and also trump is very very stupid. and while china and russia could provide intelligence they would not enter the war directly.
>>2874496
mass support or the law hasn't mattered for any of the shit trump has done in his second term. why would it matter for this? he'll force it through and USAnians will dance about it


 

🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

<Rot Com Bubble Edition


OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
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>>2874352
>the US spends years helping netanyahu do war crimes
>then they turn on him
>this restores your "faith"

From "The Prince" by Machiavelli:

<"When the duke occupied the Romagna he found it under the rule of weak masters, who rather plundered their subjects than ruled them, and gave them more cause for disunion than for union, so that the country was full of robbery, quarrels, and every kind of violence; and so, wishing to bring back peace and obedience to authority, he considered it necessary to give it a good governor. Thereupon he promoted Messer Ramiro d'Orco, a swift and cruel man, to whom he gave the fullest power. This man in a short time restored peace and unity with the greatest success. Afterwards the duke considered that it was not advisable to confer such excessive authority, for he had no doubt but that he would become odious, so he set up a court of judgment in the country, under a most excellent president, wherein all cities had their advocates. And because he knew that the past severity had caused some hatred against himself, so, to clear himself in the minds of the people, and gain them entirely to himself, he desired to show that, if any cruelty had been practised, it had not originated with him, but in the natural sternness of the minister. Under this pretence he took Ramiro, and one morning caused him to be executed and left on the piazza at Cesena with the block and a bloody knife at his side. The barbarity of this spectacle caused the people to be at once satisfied and dismayed."

TLDR "use a fall guy to do your dirty work then punish him in front of everyone for carrying out your orders so people think you are good"

oldest trick in the book

>>2874434
>mayo pete didn't win Iowa, he got more delegates at the convention (after Bernie conceded) but Bernie got more votes. The establishment really wanted Pete to win that and create a national sensation of himself and this was marred by the fact that he didn't actually win and continued to not win. The early primaries matter if the media decides they matter, when it's the "wrong" person who wins suddenly it's not that big a deal. The fact that a self proclaimed socialist got the most votes in Iowa was newsworthy but they decided it wasn't. If the right wing safe pick for the bourg wins South Carolina it will be 1-2 weeks of them being crowned nominee in an attempt to psychologically intimidate anyone who wants to threaten splitting the vote in November when it's the MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION OF OUR LIVES again, and this scares the voters in the later races to either stay home or vote biden 2.0 and creates a measurable effect as we saw in 2020.

nobody will learn
everyone will have amnesia

>>2873819
He should fire his zionist police commissioner. He can start there

>>2873053
Florida

>>2874176
>>2874175
>that trolls remorse after realizing the crackkker is already dead inside


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Deng Xiaoping Theory saved Marxism from irrelevance by shifting its focus from perpetual class struggle to practical economic development. In the late 1970s, orthodox Marxist-Leninist economies faced severe stagnation and widespread poverty. Deng revitalized the ideology by introducing market mechanisms into a socialist framework, creating a model that allowed communist states to survive and thrive in a modern globalized world. [1]

Rebranding Productive Forces
Prioritizing wealth: Deng argued that poverty is not socialism.
Redefining communism: He stated that true socialism must develop productive forces.
Shifting metrics: Economic output replaced ideological purity as the primary goal. [2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Decoupling Markets from Capitalism
Pragmatic tools: Markets and planning were viewed as economic tools, not defining political traits.
Market Socialism: He proved market mechanisms can serve a socialist economy.
Foreign capital: China opened doors to global investment while maintaining state control. [7, 8, 9, 10, 11]

The "Seek Truth from Facts" Philosophy
Rejecting dogma: Deng discarded blind adherence to utopian Marxist theories.
Results-oriented: Policies were judged by their ability to raise living standards.
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>corporations under control of a national-socialist state
I have seen this somewhere

>>2839457
>late 1970s, orthodox Marxist-Leninist economies faced severe stagnation and widespread poverty
what, anyone notice how dengoids lie the same way neolibs lie about the soviet union?

>>2874224
oh wait i just noticed its all ai holy shit, mods

>>2839541
this point always gets ignored because the overwhelming evidence of this key difference is frustrating to someone who just wants to pretend China is Burger 2.0

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>>2874225
this is their latest status update……
it might take a while………………………………


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marx loved europe, european progress, 18th century liberalism, capitalism, and believed only through that high point of civilizational evolution communism can be achieved.
it's easy to understand then why marx approved of european colonialism as marxist, taking hunter-gatherer groups into capitalist societies was a progressive act.
so then, where did this "europe bad, pre-colonial societies good" nu left come from? is it not reactionary?
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>>2874005
Ewwww

thats not even what anti colonial sentiment is about and no in the 21st century imperialism and colonialism isn't progressive retard

>so then, where did this "europe bad, pre-colonial societies good" nu left come from?

there's always been very vocal opposition to the eurocentric imperial world order, you just never heard it until more recently because there was no internet and there was no international dialogue beyond the eurocentric dialogue between intellectuals operating in mainstream western society. critics of eurocentrism were generally found in underground activist movements operating in the margins of western society like black activists or chicano activists in the united states, or they were revolutionary movements operating in the global south such as the various revolutionary movements in latin america or the viet cong in south vietnam, and all of these people were treated as enemies by western society. their ideas were not published and disseminated by any mainstream media, what little that average people in western society knew about them came from state propaganda painting them as violent dangerous terrorist bogeymen who want to destroy the world and their way of life, information was tightly controlled until the latter era of the internet when these kinds of people finally had some means of participating in international discourse.

>>2874211
Critics of euro centrism were swepted up into the history dustbin because europe had overwhelming economic, military and cultural advantadge over the rest of the world. The nations who fought back colonialism actually westernized to do so. And meanwhile the intellectual criticism against euro centrism comes for a good part from… western universities

>>2874211
It goes as far back as the Baku Congress (of which Bordiga upheld btw) and the issue is one of the most effective lenses to read a pseud/glowie from a Marxist, except for when they do the opposite grift (degrowth).

I.e. that we will throw US Patsocs, the DSA, Nick Fuentes and the 'From Alpha to Omega' podcasters (when they visit to scoff at homeless people) down the same mine shaft; and that should come as little surprise.

sage.


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Why would the society described in Plato's Republic be undesirable according to a Marxist perspective? We know all the problems with democracy and how the masses of people can't be trusted. Plus the republic abolishes private property and calls for communal raising of children, which Marxists also support.

Being ruled by the wise is undoubtedly the best system of government. Philosopher kings are chads, and what better system than to be ruled by chads?

The Republic is the defining work of all western political philosophy so it should be natural that we turn to it.

>Why would the society described in Plato's Republic be undesirable according to a Marxist perspective?
Who said it was undesirable?
But the problem with such governance is it will naturally drift toward gerontocracy due to modern medecine.

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>>2874029
The decay of order is also a theme in Plato. Stalin also writes upon how all "organic" movements have life cycles of youth and death.
>>2874016
>Why would the society described in Plato's Republic be undesirable
Well, I suppose it depends-
>according to a Marxist perspective?
Did you read the text? Plato's Noble Lies are literally (i) Religion and (ii) Class Society [e.g. the Myth of Metals].
>We know all the problems with democracy and how the masses of people can't be trusted
But Plato's primary political criticism is really that the elites become perverted by power and money, and so they must be decoupled by conditions of (i) intra-marriage, (ii) eugenics, (iii) shared property, (iv) austerity, etc.
>the republic abolishes private property and calls for communal raising of children
No it doesn't. Shared property only extends to the Guardian caste of 'philosopher-kings' [e.g. Warrior Priests]. The division of labour in the lower orders presupposes private property and commerce.
>Being ruled by the wise is undoubtedly the best system of government
Yes, but Marxism is not about systems of government.

Plato is UTOPIAN SOCIALIST, ANTI-USURY.

marxism isn't about what's desirable or undesirable it's about what develops as part of how the laws of society move


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Why are Western bourg so incredibly invested in protecting Israel? At some point it’s hard for me to believe they have this much to gain from protecting this tiny sliver of land. What the fuck is going on?
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Welcome to Aggieland!

>>2870927
Yes, you see the same in how elites defended Epstein, MJ, Polanski, Weinstein etc for decades. They literally think that if rich people get held to any account, it's basically opening the doors to a Communist uprising. Only under unique circumstances do elites ever throw eachother under the bus.
The elite are very class conscious and have class solidarity.

>>2840794
Ayn Rand, Milton friedman, Mises, David Ricardo, Rothbard were jewish. (the Arquitects of the Capitalist Dystopia we live today)

Overlapping interests of the various sections of the haute bourgeoisie. Some of whom are indeed Zionist ethnonationalists or white Christian shabbos goyim. Others are driven by a desire to see the Middle East dominated for American interests to which Israel is in fact a vehicle for that. The MIC of course, sees Israel as a major customer for their wunderwaffen. Even amongst the supposed "ideological" supporters of Israel, many are simply bought off by Israeli agents such as AIPAC. Take comfort in the fact that many of these supposed "jewish conspirators" do not actually desire Communism despite what fascists tell you. As >>2871799 said. The ideological architects of our neoliberal anti-human hellscape are in fact Jewish Zionists.

>>2871815
Yeah but Israel doesn’t actually buy weapons the us just gives it to them


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Which is actually the best of the communist parties in the US of A. i will list them by their tendency. They will be shorten to "LPO" in the poll

https://strawpoll.com/PKgleQKeoZp

>Marxist-Leninist
(APL) American Party of Labor
(PSL) Party for Socialism and Liberation
(WWP) Workers world party
(FRSO) Freedom Road Socialist Organization

>Socialism with "American" characteristics
(ACP) American Communist Party
(CPUSA) Communist Party USA

>Maoist
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>>2873495
RCPUSA are Bob Avakian’s cult, RCA are the trots descended from Alan Woods (In Defense of Marxism, International Marxist Tendency)

>>2872646
(CPI) Center for Political Innovation [Innovationist]

Uppppppp

Wheres the butthole penis party

>>2873659
>PCUSA
this is the party Dankey switch to for a while. but I think he's since given up on it


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The far-right settler nationalists justify themselves with the idea that they're fighting the new nazis while at the same time embracing the same form of blood and soil militarism
"anti-hitlerian fascism" isn't exactly hard to comprehend, but what I find confusing is that the far rightists in israel see no issue with collaboration with white nationalist groups
I can only assume this has to do with some kind of anti-arab unity sort of thing?
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>>2873647
What's false about it

>>2873196
the israel/ukraine relationship is more than a shared love of fascism: the ancient tribes of israel bought ukrainian mail order brides to try to fix problems caused by their horrific practices of inbreeding.

they still have religious holidays that involve trips to ukraine, and they still buy ukrainian mail order brides. every so often it makes the news, usually because once the women arrive they start beating them (51% DV rate) but more lately to congratulate themselves for saving them from the war (like domestic slavery in israel is better).

>>2873740
anti-Christ thought

>>2873586
Did they say anything explicitly fascist?

>>2873196
are you mentally retarded? the azov battlion is led by jews. and the nazi symbolism they use, is to trick retards into dying for them. that is why they are called 'kosher' nazis. swear you guys on here, like to be intelluectually dishonest or are retarded -100 autism score


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do you guys think there'll be any marxist school shoooter/terror cell types in the future with the doctrine being more popular amongst genz? or do all maxists know that lone wolf attacks are retarded
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>>2873745 this was so hecking scary,,, never put this image again,,, hope this helps

You can’t get famous doing a mass shooting anymore, which is the goal, you have to kill a CEO or Trump or something

>>2873742
There was one in Quebec recently but he was an incel, doesn't count

>>2873745
HOLY FUCK HE's BRItitsh!!!!

>>2873745
she would get it


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Mahmoud Amin Ya’qub Al-Muhtadi, 33 a DFLP/NRB militant, joined the Oct. 7, 2023 Hamas attack on Israel near Kibbutz Kfar Aza (site of a massacre that killed Americans). He lied about his terrorist ties on his U.S. visa application, entered the country in Sept. 2024, and has now been arrested by federal authorities as part of JTF 10-7’s efforts to prosecute Oct. 7 perpetrators.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/gaza-man-arrested-alleged-involvement-october-7-2023-terrorist-attacks
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>>2872880
king shit

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>>2872880
>site of a massacre that killed Americans
What kind of Americans?

>>2872880
>>2873704
Anyways loldog, I stand with my Muslim Americans exterminating as many of our Israeli Americans as they can. Godbless and godspeed. You can't hide behind "American" because you are not, you are the most subversive little parasites to ever hit this country.

Israel still isn't being punished.

Did this retard really go to the US? Might as well move to Tel-Aviv.


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