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Communist meditation, bordigization, armchairist.
GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT.
A minute, an hour, a day, a week, a month, a year, a decade, a century, a millennium, a decamillennium, a centamillennium. As long as it takes.
Nothing you do matters, don't waste energy. Wait, read, write. That's the communist life. Wait in your armchair, read capital, write analysis and critique. Buy a gravestone with symbols on it to signify you were a communist. When the revolution comes everyone real and authentic will be resurrected.

A THOUSAND YEAR WAIT. EVERYTHING YOU EVER WISHED FOR WILL COME TRUE. YOU JUST NEED TO SIT AND READ MARX.
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>>2619731
Give it twenty years, the revolution will happen worldwide. Trust.

wat

>>2619728
If you want the ultimate armchair Marxism, look into henryk Grossman's crisis theory, he basically says capitalism will collapse automatically, atleast if revolution isn't brought about prematurely by the proletariat or party. The council communist Paul Mattick was a big fan of his, even though Grossman lived in East Germany and supported the party.

>>2639493
>If you want the ultimate armchair Marxism, look into henryk Grossman's crisis theory, he basically says capitalism will collapse automatically, atleast if revolution isn't brought about prematurely by the proletariat or party. The council communist Paul Mattick was a big fan of his, even though Grossman lived in East Germany and supported the party.
I keep learning new things from this website every day, when did he predict a collapse?

>>2639502
He didn't predict a collapse in the sense of 'X' year but that it's collapse was a logical necessity usually other Marxist crisis theories say theyre cyclical without any necessary resolution or that Marx's theory is no longer applicable such as reformists ala Bernstein.



 

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>Shitposting argumentative twattery ends at 600
I know their game

>>2639549
Stop spamming other people please.

>>2639559
Not when they make it personal, I go rambo then

>>2639549
you're still butthurt your falseflagging was discovered?




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im someone whose been interested in secret societies and clandestine shit, but i was always surprised how there were so few left-wing ones, compared to the myriad of right wing secret societies, since the only one i could find anything about is the spanish anarchist secret org called "The Disinherited".

why does the left seemingly not utilize secret societies, or are most of the left secret socs just really good at staying secret?
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the illuminati were a leftist secret society

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_the_Just

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soci%C3%A9t%C3%A9_des_saisons

The first modern Communist parties spawned out of Communist Secret Societies.


In Central Europe Trade Unionism and strikes originate in medieval brotherhoods of free craftsmen who used strikes to fight against bad guilds (the guilds were organized bourgeois craftsmen who owned the means of production). These brotherhoods had necessarily clandestine elements to it.
The brotherhoods still exist (just like the guilds) but kinda forgot & abandoned class struggle, only the traditional clothes, ethics, rules & rituals are upheld today which are still quite "left" nonetheless. Unfortunately most journeymen today are not aware of how "left" their brotherhoods used to be and what purpose they served over centuries aside from journey related matters.

>>2622440
Nowadays leftism is too oriented around egalitarianism which conflicts with the inherent elitism of secret societies.

>why does the left seemingly not utilize secret societies, or are most of the left secret socs just really good at staying secret?
Weird nebulous use of 'the left'.

0) In countries where socialism isn't directly surpressed, it's beneficial to be open and public. We're trying to build a mass movement, not conspire to assassinate people like the Propaganda of the Deed 1890s fiasco (assassinated a whole bunch of industrialists, police chiefs and heads of state - normal people didn't rise up). So unless there's an actual strategic necessity to be a private secret movement, it's a HUGE logistical disadvantage.
e.g. one of the recently dissolved M-L parties in my country drove members away by taking laborious, unnecessary cybersecurity precautions essentially just to group-watch The Deprogram and run a soup kitchen.
1) There are concepts like antifascist affinity groups who are adjacent to those secret societies. The bigger a society is, the harder it is to keep a secret, so don't expect some huge Masonic lodge of communists doing fuckass handshakes and meeting in halls. Consider groups of 2-10 people. Additionally, a lot of antifascists are anonymous, even when publishing their actions online.

>>2626079
Fuck that shit



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Successful mass resistance to ICE has flourished everywhere.

you even have entire municipal police departments threatening to confront ICE.

Now ask yourself: why would the ruling class allow the plebs to challenge federal law? Would that not set a dangerous precedent for the ruling class to have ordinary working class people resist federal policy?

And the answer in this case is no, they're not afraid. And the reason is simple: THE RULING CLASS, THE BIG CORPORATE OLIGARCHS, WANT UNLIMITED MESTIZO IMMIGRATION IN THE US.

unlimited undocumented immigration from latin America means that capitalists can call upon a pool of unlimited scabs and also pay them BELOW minimum wage. white workers are simply too much of a hassle to deal with, they put up a stink and ask for too much. Jose and Juan, by contrast, have zero leverage and therefore can be hyper-exploited.

I will be called a republican, trumpist, fascist, but I am right. material analysis > muh feels.

Now this is not to suggest that the republicans care about workers, but the broader point I'm trying to make is that this goes beyond democrat vs republican identity politics: this is about what the haute bourgeoisie want. They want scared and vulnerable immigrants. simple as.
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>>2639397
It’s also because their families back home are dependent on remittances in places where first world currency goes a lot further

>>2639404
yes, which is one of the dumbest parts of the capitalist system:
<my green paper is worth more than your green paper!

>>2639411
What’s fucked up is it’s only America that gets the shitty green paper, everyone else gets these awesome pale pinks, yellows, blues with these shiny watermarks

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>>2639419
the 1 dollar bill is still GOAT'd

>>2639433
It is funny how the eye pyramid is like catnip for schizos



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>orwell's 1948 book
<the world shall be divided into 3 spheres of influence that have essentially Bourgeois-Managerial Dictatorships:
<oceania (NATO)
<Eurasia (Russian Federation)
<Eastasia (PRC)
<with disputed regions in the global south

how was this reactionary snitch able to predict multipolarity with such astounding clarity?
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>>2638321
>Russia is barely or not even a pole.
trve trve

I haven’t read the book because my high school only assigned Animal Farm, but I thought the point was that EastAsia, Eurasia don’t exist and “Airstrip 1” was the only actual territory of Oceania because the rest of the world was destroyed by a previous nuclear war.

>>2638322
>pic
That was the general sentiment of the elites of that time and it is a blatant and malicious lie. They claimed that these dirty proles want to destroy their culture meanwhile in reality proles of that time always organized reading clubs, literary saloons and classical music concerts and generally all in for culture and the education of children. Actually it was the decadent ruling class who regressed into idiocy like spiritualism, occultism and finally fascism. I hate Orwell so damn much.

>>2638367
no… that's not the point at all lol…
the wars between the 3 superpowers exist, but they are highly managed kayfabe meant to destroy excess productive forces and labor power in order to stabilize production and prices. Which is actually what rajani palme dutt says about fascism. so it's 3 fascist superpowers just doing highly managed social-darwinism and death cultism eternally




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>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


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>>2638066
Russia is your next door neighbor. You can see Russia from the U.S.

>>2638166
yeah, surely I didn't name produciton-economic relationships. as in, believe that monarchies around the world all let the free market economies to behave as it pleases it.

>>2638230
>Why do babby socialists think elections mean anything?
because you need to use the bourgeoise tools against them.
the bourgeoise makes weapons, will you not use weapons to put their heads on a pitchfork?

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>>2637848
>He doesn't know about the BLM protests



 

There's a dark comedy in watching pig on pig violence play out within the USA


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>pig on pig

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Intellectual production is the media, education, art, etc, that is created in a society. Since intellectual production is a direct extension of material production and because we are in the capitalist mode of production, the bourgeoisie heavily influnces and almost entirely controls intellectual production.

I feel like the internet has changed this although, since everyone has a voice, from the capitalists to us; as a result, I don't know if this definition of intellectual production by Marx still fully applies, idk.

The problem is capitalists control the internet and can shut down all the “organic” content they don’t like and boost content that aligns with their own interests.

>>2638112
This, the web domain holders don't have complete control over their domains, the IPs have to be negotiated away.



 

How did you react when Trump won? I personally drank a bottle of champagne because I knew it was the beginning of the end of the USA. He is the worst kind of man and everyone knows it. Watching him destroy the US for 10 years while in and out of office has been so vindicating. He has made China into a moral leader. He is such a great capstone on the genocidal project founded in bourgeois revolution - the Settler Entity.

(This is a microblogging thread in the style of Twitter and Reddit, the front pages of the Internet.)
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>>2634248
>I personally laughed and just accepted that America is fucked while my friends were panicking

Oh my god I you just brought back a memory I had in 2016 where I had the exact same reaction

>picrel
sucks so hard normies fell for all the propaganda. I told them Biden was building concensus for war with china, and the retards would just say "at least he's not Trump" even though it was obvious with the cost of living rising that Trump was gonna win after him.

>>2634246
>another personalistic individualist read of history
so-called materialist ideologues at it again, congrats ya dolts

>>2634246
>He is such a great capstone on the genocidal project founded in bourgeois revolution - the Settler Entity.
Cringiest phrase ever written

>>2634628
Dark age of America, a literal sleazebag TV personality ended up destroying it



 

Scientology is interesting because it is literally bullshit. But can we use their tactics to grow the left? Why is it so hard for something based in reason to work while something that isn't fails?
>Spot who is attacking us.
>Start investigating them promptly for felonies or worse using own professionals, not outside agencies.
>Double curve our reply by saying we welcome an investigation of them.
>Start feeding lurid, blood, sex, crime actual evidence on the attackers to the press.
>Don't ever tamely submit to an investigation of us. Make it rough, rough on attackers all the way. You can get "reasonable about it" and lose. Sure we break no laws. Sure we have nothing to hide. BUT attackers are simply an anti-Scientology propaganda agency so far as we are concerned. They have proven they want no facts and will only lie no matter what they discover. So BANISH all ideas that any fair hearing is intended and start our attack with their first breath. Never wait. Never talk about us—only them. Use their blood, sex, crime to get headlines. Don't use us. I speak from 15 years of experience in this. There has never yet been an attacker who was not reeking with crime. All we had to do was look for it and murder would come out.
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>>2636964
They infiltrated Linkin Park?

>>2636949
Didn't the Catholic Church condemn the intermixing of communism and christianity, labeling it liberation theology? I think liberation theology won out in Nicaragua.

>>2636964
Doesn't Trump believe in manifestation and LOA

>>2636949
yeah the Hubbard/Parsons shit was spooky af too. british intelligence completely tore down america's and rebuilt in its own image during/after WWII, all the way down to whatever freaky moloch shit the british aristocracy's into. scientology was just a commercially successful spinoff from a line that stretches from Parsons through LaVey and Aquino, onward through Myatt and Sutter. I used to be on the fringes of some of this shit (NEVER any fucking O9A or related shit) and got the fuck out and started going to church again after I came to the conclusion that the whole history of modern LHP "traditions" was just spooks and kidfuckers all the way down

>>2637036
They tried so hard.



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