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A thread to share of what you think are your controversial opinons and takes, here mine:

- mass immigration is bad overall (I'm not against immigration per se, more like unfiltered immigration is quiet bad in my opinion)

-religion in general are bad, reactionary and backwater, and trying to "fuse" religion and left leaning politics are bound to fail because both doesn't mix well

-"liberal" eugenics is mostly right and should be mass adopted

-China is actually a trying a form of modernize socialism with end goal of becoming a full fledged socialist nation when they exhaust the market-capitalism form of relation in the country

-North Korea is a abomination of socialism

-Supporting Russia is stupid because Putin is nowhere near close to be a support of socialism and progressive politics and is just a form of support imperialist politics by because isn't western somehow is good, it's like supporting japanese imperialism back in the WW 2 era isn't western
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>>2706191

There's also the fact that more Americans have lived in cuba even during the blockade. It's culturally more interlinked with the US and the Americas.

>>2704209
We will know when it's ready

>>2704294
It would've been better if they kept the battle mechanics.

>>2703978
I dislike Marxists which go after businesses which produce a valuable product.
I dislike capitalists which go after government because government.

Controversial but fair and true, the above opinion always gets me into people's bad books.

>>2704033
The only counterpoint to the death penalty that I've heard of and respect is that courts aren't trustworthy enough to ensure innocent people aren't convicted. Many many news stories of innocent people appealing and overturning life sentences.

For any extreme antisocial action where responsibility is established with certainty, execute them efficiently. No point wasting more resources. I don't care if you want prolonged 'justice' (torture) against someone who hurt you.



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>Free healthcare is socialism, you need to be placed in hospital debt for the rest of your life
>but US taxdollars should fund free healthcare for Israel
What did JD Vance mean by this? Anybody?
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he didn't say that

>>2706059
No healthcare for anybody. There, problem solved!

>>2706131
If that applies to Americans only I would support jt

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did you just question why american tax dollars fund palestinian genocide and israeli healthcare even while burgers watch all their social services get privatized? that's treatlerism!



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Baudrillard was a crypto-heidegerrian, symbols ARE real, read engels and matetialism vs empirocriticism

I will not elaborate further
Bottom text
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>>2705515
in my country the general masses are fascist and prime misogynist. way to go cunt.

>>2705554
Yeah, but the mistake is thinking that compatibility is predicated on the compatibility of ideas, rather than the compatibility of material interests.
All standpoint epistemologists are in unison when they cry "Listen to [nationality] gusano voices!"

>>2705558
Yeah, nietzsche would have hated nazism, but precisely because it was too democratic. In that, the category of "race" or "nationality" includes the slave rabble, and not just masters.
Ironically though, modern neoliberalism is closer to nietzsche's vision.
https://redsails.org/kriegsideologie/
https://redsails.org/nietzsche-the-chinese-workers-friend/
https://redsails.org/really-existing-fascism/
These articles discuss the topic in some detail.

>>2705623
Seek the rational in the real. You're not a blanquist, are you?

Actually, Zionism is a great example of this perfect blending of race essentialism and idpol.

>>2704244
>It is a matter of public record, however, that Foucault signed a petition to the Assemblée Nationale in 1977 calling for the decriminalisation of all “consensual” sexual relations between adults and children.
https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/april-2021/michel-foucault-the-prophet-of-pederasty/
>>2703942
Reigns supreme
>>2705631
Blanquism (as individual ethos) is perfectly compatible with dialectical materialism.

Unironically though the Mirror of Production doesn't discredit Marxism necessarily. I'd even say it can be interpreted as a defense of Marxism within its sphere, and explains the rise of (neo)China. Marxism is capital's alibi, sure, but some alibis are better than others.

For Black History Month I am assigning you to read Baudrillard's Fatal Strategies alongside Sprigle's In the Land of Jim Crow, Griffin's Black Like Me, and Ice Cube's TV Show Black.White. Extra credit for watching Boy Meets World's Chick Like Me.



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Well my country is fucking me over. Trump and his administration seem to be on a mission to genocide neets. So there's that..Very easy to attack neets and their gibs to give sad pleasures to wagecucks. Anyone else living such a situation? Feels like the world is more and more pressuring you to rope yourself… oh well…
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>>2694656
>I actually learned brazilian portuguese
how? tips?

>>2693328
>>2693825
>>2694264
>If you have enough money to live in relative comfort
That’s kind of the crux behind the free greentext part. If you can be elitist about being a cultured NEET and believe the only thing to gain from work is sex, it’s probably because you’re already from a privileged position in society.

>>2648855
You gotta fight
for your right
to NEET

>>2651525
>have a job
>have your own place
>no social life because you are too tired from job and chores
>eat like shit and no exercise

vs

>neet

>eat clean exercise
>get pussy sometimes due to not being soulcrushed by job so women actually find you enjoyable to be around

>I DONT WANT TO WOOOORK!! WAAHHH
skill issue

U cant be a Communist without working. That isn ot a "theory" or "moralism". This is not about "being proletariat". iT's about mindset. Communism needs to be built somehow, it wont happen on its own.
Embrace labor
Embrace work
Find "joy through work". When you do this, you will activate new "mindset" in ur brains that causes full proletarian motion. 9 hours work, 9 hours communism, 6 hours sleep. EVERY SINGLE DAY
COMMUNISM IS THE HUSTLE

Would you volunteet to work at a gulag? If yes, congrats youre a SOVIET. If no, then you must be deported to gulag to learn good work ethic.
Thankfully capitalism has invented a gulag named "the labor market". Work it, gig it, hustle. The "labour mentality" cannot be learned, it must be experienced and embedded into your soul. People in 1880 who worked 60 hours a week could organize like crazy but you cannot though u have 24/7 time? Literally skill issue. Do work, get swole.

50 planks for Lenin, 50 squats for Marx, 50 pushups for Stalin



 

Is the idea of eugenics in essence a bad idea? Like, does the idea of wanting to make people more healthy and brighter a bad idea per se? Is eugenic always bad and problematic, or they still space for to be useful for society? What's your thoughts on it?
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Women are natures eugencisists

>>2704883
>eugenics has and always will be executed in the worst matter possible by the worst people possible.
Well, hard eugenics has only been executed in capitalist/fascist countries

>>2704065
>Is the idea of eugenics in essence a bad idea?
Depends. Forcibly sterilizing people is questionable. Promoting healthy sperm/egg donors is a good alternative.

>2060
>genetic modification is mandatory
>capitalist state (now owned by shareholder majority) kills all pregnant women who dont go to the GMH center
>the CIA backdoors inject stupid genes in the gene changing machines
>billions of americans develop black skin, even when their parents are both white
>billions of americans have been enstupified and become too stupid to understand communism
>society is permanently segregated into Alpha (white devil) and Gamma (negro slave) classes
eugenics obviously leads to Brave New World

Yup, just another normal and well-adjusted day on leftypol dot org.



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🧣 Discuss Politics related to the mighty occupied nation of of Appalachia ⛏️
It’s time Leftypol pays more attention to the beautiful land of Appalachia. As an upper Appalachian myself o can say that this is Easily one of the most historically proletarian places in America because the coal miner’s union back in the day bravery fought cops and the national guard, however unfortunately post-red-scare the Appalachian people became surf-brained and got into an Abusive relationship with the Republican Party and conservatism in general. Appalachia has been victim to unequal exchange in what is supposed to be it’s own country, they shut down our steel mills and do nothing but mine our mountains and frack our fields and it doesn’t go to funding our schools, hospitals, or infrastructure, of course this is the case in all of America but especially in Appalachia, it’s basically a neo-colony in its own country. We must help re-radicalize the Appalachian people! Rednecks of the world Unite!
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>>2699322
It stands for two things, hating black people, and drunk driving

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My home city of Pittsburgh is the largest city in Appalachia and is easily one of the most proletarian cities in the United States by because it’s Appalachian and in the rust belt, unfortunately though it no longer has any industry and our bridges are collapsing into our polluted water. In the 80s they started to shut down our steel mills and outsource that shit to China, I mean good for China I guess but I wish that we had industry to replace it because our main source of income now is healthcare and the largest tower in the city has the name of an insurance company on it. And the great great grandkids of steelworkers who fought the Pinkerton’s are now all wagies

Fucking yanks

>>2705564
>largest industry is healthcare
The Pitt is a documentary, bleak

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>>2705573
>The Pitt is a documentary, bleak
The name of the insurance company that practically owns the city is drilled into the tallest tower, and libs have the audacity to say that Mao’s portrait in the forbidden city is an expression of a personality cult.



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SOUTH AFRICAN GENERAL
Comrades, Malema-enjoyers, Slovo-worshippers, Mandela-libs, Zumatards, Cyril-Dengists, welcome.
Leftypollas speak a lot of Israeli apartheid, but leftytpollas neva speak about da great Nation which successfully defeated apartheid.
AMANDLA
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Is the state going to finally succeed in burying malema?
>>2668014
just filter him by name.


What does this moron Malema ever do except toii-toiing like a buffoon?

>>2668014
NUMSA can claim to be Marxist Leninist, it does not matter as their actions do not reflect Marxism Leninism at all.

>>2705574
Nobody cares about your faggy little whining.
You are deeply unserious.
Fuck off to your containment thread, /USApol/, or better yet get a job.



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Are the current military wing of the bourgeois settler reactionary. Thus they are the biggest direct threat to the revolution and working class and must be treated as such. Any leftist individual or organization that attempts to denounce this fact, no matter how loudly or subtly, should be treated as an enemy of the working-class, and swiftly rejected, denounced or removed. They are agents. The growth of working class power must always be backed by an apparent willingness to defend that power or it's pursuit from any and all reactionary attacks.
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>>2705218

Nobody will do anything? Or just me? I would never do anything about that life, no not at all. But will enough people do something to jeopardize your saftey? Because you thinking NOBODY will do anything, and acting so cocky is a good way to get your brain splattered on pavement; forget about me.

>>2705244

Your fat ice-fag hands hit the wrong key. you must be turning red. calm down big boy, AMERIKKKA is over soon. China will only help fuel the final phases.

>>2705257

In 2 more weeks you do what you do now, nothing. Worthless.

>>2705271

If you continue to do nothing, I'll continue to do the same.

>>2705283

3 days.



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What do you think of communo-monarchism?
Can the holy proleterian spirit be passed down trough your seed? And as such only the inheritors of this great proleterian spirit are fit to rule?
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>>2697403
this maymay only applies to shitholes like 4chan where it effectively functions like social media where you have a thread for practically everyone and everything. meanwhile you are on leftypol on a bait thread

I would only support this system if the philosopher-king were Chagosposter.

I look at North Korea with unrelenting envy.
North Koreans have a better harmony than Western Christian Monarchy.
No annoying catfights between Church and State, no stupid twofold Church/State loyalty between King Jesus and King King.
A cult of personality centered around the Leader and no Christian universalism, no dealing with Christian biblical baddie portrayals of Pharaoh always skulking over, no Greekoid classical tradition that snubs this sort of thing with excessive tirades about ebil tyrants and oriental Persians (which they attach to monarchy).
Everyone gets familialism with the Party and the Leader–no competition between Church familialism (Yes, even Communist internationalism is more nationalist and keen than the universalism/cosmopolitanism of Christianity). –The Western culturally don't comprehend it very well, always entertaining mixed constitutionalism/political pluralism (which Hobbes tried in vain to push away from, but failed, b/c the West can't stop being for multi-party democracy/aristocracy–and if they do comprehend it, it is sapped under Christianity).
They accept the need for the arbiter and no fruitless mental gymnastics about it.
Mt. Paektu bloodline (not Mt. Zion *cough*) and everyone recognizes the preeminence of the Leader and corporatist unity, Leader is central as soul of the Commonwealth and core to their identity… community of pleasures and pains that Plato lauded is secured under the cult of personality of the Leader… unlike Christianity where at best people get the Eucharist and icons to communicate with Christ and clergy–the Leaders bloodline secures the justification of arbiters with less factionalism (which has erupted with Christianity, because while the Leaders can communicate and be arbiters, Christians still wait for Jesus and rely on either the prime ministers (popes) or ministry (orthodox bishops/churches) which are never quite as secure as a direct blood descendent who is living among them (not an icon or eucharist, but a living person in the here & now).

…It is great the bond they have going… I hear Christians get detained for trying to sneak in and proselytize the North Koreans and hide Bibles… and that's a good thing–if North Koreans converted to Christianity, it would be paradise lost, and destroy the bond they established.

Grenada Aproves

>>2702529
North Korea will be converted to Christianity with the power of the Russian Orthodox Church. Zeethe harder satanist.



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Why are western leftist so obsessed with expanding the power of their own imperialist nation-states? Literally everything they do revolves around expanding state power

>muh government healthcare

>muh public housing
>muh government regulations (full of loopholes)
>muh tariffs and 'labor protections' (coddling labour aristocrats)

None of this shit builds working class power or benefits the international proletariat. Westerners are all just little statelerites, screeching for more laws and bureaucracies so taxes can go up and their military-industrial complexes can grow even stronger
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>>2703831
If the the us government spends money on this then it has less for the military.
The idea is instead of having a war machine we can have social welfare.
Why are you worried about a hypothetical social democracy having a war machine when the current goverment has defended most social programs and increased military spending?

>>2703895
And Engels basically said "yeah do what?"

>>2703946
>>2703943
Next cope is dSSA CpuSSa would just be imperialism any way infact they would be worse than the current order so a revolution in amerkkka should never happen.
Kind like how eastern Europeans
Go "stalin was a bad as hitler , actaully stalin was worse, and hitler was a great guy"

>>2703935
I guarantee you were right-wing 5 years ago.

>>2704684
>If the the us government spends money on this then it has less for the military.
>The idea is instead of having a war machine we can have social welfare.
The US doesn't spend based on what it has. If they did, they wouldn't be in deficit. I agree that the US govt. giving welfare would be better than it waging warfare, but it's not like it's a balanced budget system where assets have to equal liabilities. The govt. is trillions in debt and nobody will make them pay that debt because they have 800 bases and terrorize everyone and loot resources and do sanctions and embargoes. Some say it doesn't translate into better lives for American workers because the bourgeoisie keeps all of it and then privatizes and deregulates everything anyway, and has a police state with austerity at home and a slave prisons system as well. I think that is partly true. I think treatlerism is overstated, but it does translate into slightly cheaper commodities through currency hegemony. Thankfully that's not going to last much longer but when people are bad at thinking abstractly and understanding systems they're going to go along with it even when it doesn't benefit them because if idpol nonsense like nationalism.



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