/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2621206
You have a good knowledge of drugs mein komrade, theres millions of substances we could arrest junkies for. Let me sign a document that says hard instead of soft.

>>2604326
Yeah you can do that then die at the age of 40. What a great idea!

Based on op, I thought this was dead

And now America is reclaiming the cocaine business in Venezuela. Counterrevolution on drugs strikes again.

>>2634420
Cost in time and money for a well balanced vegan diet (and not eating same 3 things every meal) isnt considered and instead of seeing things from other's perspectives vegans double down on entitlement and giving themselves a moral superiority.

They are 10000000000% always the roadblock to spreading veganism and I'm tired of white washing these fucking subhumans.

Vegans will never defeat The Big Meat Industry. Vegans should become communist or something. Vegans are moralists.

>>2635364
>>2635345
Most of the world will be vegan or close enough in two to three decades, the biggest roadblock is the absence of competitive, mass produced artificial meat and it will go away before 2030. The peasantoids will whine and seethe just like the oil barons but their concentration camps are going away.

Moved to >>>/siberia/744158.

Öcalan: Democratic Islam means returning to the spirit of the Medina Charter
Abdullah Öcalan sent a message to the 1st Ordinary Congress of the Mesopotamia Islamic Research Federation, held under the slogan “From Democratic Islam Toward Peace and a Democratic Society.” Emphasizing that at its core Islam is a religion of freedom, justice, and equality, Öcalan pointed out that official state Islam—turned into an instrument of power and plunder by capitalist modernity—or communitarian structures have lost this essence.

Öcalan’s message reads as follows:

“To the Congress of the Mesopotamia Islamic Research Federation,

Islam, at its core, is a religion of freedom, justice, and equality. Official state Islam, transformed by capitalist modernity into an instrument of power and plunder, as well as communitarian structures, have lost this essence. Democratic Islam, however, means returning to the spirit of the Medina Charter. That charter was a contract of coexistence, without oppression, based on the free will of different beliefs, peoples, and cultures.

It must be known that true jihad is the struggle carried out through constant self-criticism against the ego and against oppression. The concept of shura in Islam signifies collective reason and democratic decision-making.

Let us not make Islam a political instrument of the state or of any group, but rather place it at the service of a free life of society organized from the grassroots. Democratic Islam is a civilizational alternative that places women’s freedom, ecological balance, and the brotherhood of peoples at its center. Only this democratic interpretation can heal the bleeding wounds of the Middle East. In this framework, I hope your discussions will serve the democratic society process we have initiated. With endless love and greetings…

Abdullah Öcalan
Imrali.”

>>2612764
Why do Multipolaroids hate Rojava and ocalan if it's a nationalist socdem experiment that likes Islam? Isn't that the whole multipolaroid thing?

>>2612774
Where is the multipolaroid?

>>2586843
>Additionally, a long-standing romanticism within parts of the European left regarding the right of oppressed nations to self-determination—regardless of contemporary material conditions—has also contributed to this distortion, something the movement itself has instrumentalized.
Hit the nail.

it is awesome that the turkish left is anti-revisionist. öcalan killed many real revolutionaries in turkey.

hmmmmm

>>2634654
If somebody is going to hide behind AI, Pretend to be credentialed and never show their face or voice, nobody is going to trust them, yes.
Back to /ISG/ with your 'muh vtubing muh drawsona' nobody here cares about or even to know what these things mean.

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>>2634672
>i can't say why he's wrong or attack his arguments, so I'll get mad at the tech he uses to make his vids

you are also without credentials and you hide behind anonymity also. we all do. noibody cares about bourgeois credentialism anymore. anyone can say shit. a pedophile who somehow bankrupted casinos runs my country and a busdriver ran venezuela. you have no real arguments about why decode is wrong because you won't even digest the material. in the time you spent bitching, you could have just ignored it and moved on with your life

Because a job that AI can "do" was not real in the first place, because AI is useless.

This is why non-twitter artists have been and will remain fine, actual programmers have been and will remain fine, every job that AI claims it will replace have been and will remain fine. JavaScript framework devs, marketing, tech support and managerial jobs, however, are fucked because they weren't doing anything competent, useful or conceptually coherent to begin with, so now that we have a generalized method of automating doing a job badly, these jobs will cease to exist after the AI bubble.

>>2602231
Inane and inaccurate.

>>2602241
Your AI concubine will not survive the bubble, cope.

>>2634266
Intersectional analysis eating good tonight?

>>2602231
Is this invoking 'bullshit jobs'? Because most of what you described IS actually useful, just for their firm's capitalists, which is why most (non-capitalist) people fail to see the use in such labor. The use-value of marketing is to modify demographics of consumers into recognizing–if not valorizing–the subject of advertising. Something innocuous like a PSA campaign operates on the same process as commodity advertising. The difference is, advertising commodities enables the capturing of additional surplus value from commodities that might otherwise be wasted in competing with other capitalist firms. Something like how color was genderized in the United States in an advertising campaign allowed for a greater portion of clothes to be sold from what was already able to be manufactured, as wardrobes between boys and girls were further separated, hand-me-downs became less prevalent, among other things. Advertising can also enable rentier-like structures, where the valorization of certain name-brands–protected by intellectual property–can capture surplus value that is more than that of the advertised commodity from the wages and earnings of consumers (mostly workers).

So, no. It's more accurate to say that AI will *displace* those jobs you mentioned. Hopefully this means the professionals in those jobs become thoroughly and ruthlessly proletarianized, too.

>>2633402
>i think this is the most reasonable position since its true you cant derive is from ought but the only thing you have to accept for marxist "ethics" to be true is that humans should exist and everything else follows
i broadly agree with this post, but where i break with you is when you say "humans should exist" is a sufficient premise from which to derive some kind of distilled ethics of marxian communism. kings and capitalists exist, as do serfs and proles. for me, the basic ethical premise which underlies any reasoned reflection on communism as the real movement abolishing the current state of things and what should be done to further it would be more like "people should exist without class distinction". the historical novelty of the proletariat, and why we hypothesize it as the world-historically revolutionary subject, is that it is the working class in the period of human history which first produces productive means sufficient to universalize itself as the only class through revolutionary activity, and thus is the first revolutionary working class historically capable of abolishing class distinction as such. what is important isn't so much a universalist humanism, which is arguably something more proper to the development of bourgeois society, but the universalization of a particular class position which simultaneously abolishes class position as a meaningful category.

>>2633486
yeah i get what you mean i just think class distinctions are in contradiction with humans existing long term. thats what i mean by the proletarian standpoint being universal and common ruin. even if you might be better off as a self interested capitalist in the term of your 70 year life your childrens children wont exist if the planet burns up and class distinctions necessarily develope into capitalism industrialization and climate catastrophe. like the proles arent the universal class merely because they are a majority but because they represent the emergent face of humanity as a self directed organism become actualized

>>2631856
There's different kinds of morals. It depends on the type of Marxism, because academic marxism can definitely be turned into something purely descriptive, but Marx himself was intervening in proletarian struggles. His standpoint, and the standpoint of communists, is that what's good for the proletariat is good. And what's good is simple, it's whatever increases our wellbeing and furthers our interests.

>>2634069
By different kinds of morals i mean there's stuff like "freedom is good" and then there's like "it's bad if i starve". And there are morals that people try to put on others in order to give universal laws that all fall under, and then there's just the personal, biological even, value systems that are innate to us as living creatures. Something that hurts is bad so I'll avoid it. It's miles apart from "everyone must strive for truth and justice". The higher type of morality is what liberals play around with, and the lower is what communists rely on.

>>2631856

The "amoralism" of Marxism is the descriptive study of where morality comes from, not a prescription to have no morals, those are in fact inescapable and propel the class struggle itself at the level of superstructural consciousness. Under class society, the oppressed have their own morality based on experiential affective understanding of the suffering caused by their oppression, the oppressors have their own morality based on the dehumanization of the oppressed, so as to not share their suffering, so as to benefit materially from it. If you materially benefit from Palestinian genocide you'll likely have genocidal morality, and if you don't you'll be horrified when you find out the Zionist entity is a fully committed genocidal society, and be compelled to support the liberation of Palestinians, whose suffering your material conditions allow you to empathize with.

But don't confuse this with merely stating that morality is historically contingent and you have no reason to oppose Zionism beyond your arbitrary circumstances. Marxism is no Postmodernism, because the latter rejects material reality as the ultimate source of "social constructs". Our true, non-historically contingent claim to righteousness is that empathy with fellow human beings allows for true scientific thinking, since to deny the humanity of the oppressed is to disregard their experienced reality as an object of serious dialectical inquiry, and at a greater degree it necessitates foregoing dialectical thinking entirely in favor of ideology to gaslight the oppressed out of their own experienced reality and to essentialize the system of oppression, denying the very reality of historical progress. Marx argues this when he analyzes that Aristotle could only gleam the form of value in exchange value, but not the substance of value in human labor, due to his class position in a slave society founded on the moral supposition of the inequality of men and thus their labor powers.

This is why we use scientific Marxism as our weapon of choice in the class struggle, while the reactionaries use eleven varieties of stupid retarded ideological bullshit, the most effective being identitarian fascism which is predicated on total dehumanization of the other, and on the other hand amoral utilitarian thinking, which allows for effective rational thinking completely taking incPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2634362
De-facto eurocommunist

>>2634367
Useless

Killalldengists

>>2608523
>Le successful Gorbachev!
MLs are genuinely pitiable people
I mean they would be if they didn’t deserve a brick to the face more than pity but yea

>>2610090
>Communism is just le magical label referring to nothing real
The only future for communism starts with either re-educating or outright murdering every single Stalinist/Marxist-Leninist; if this is not accomplished the future of the worker’s movement will continue to be deferred

Bump

Nobody cares about this Allenite slop, everyone knows Yakub created whitoids to punish the rest of the world

Bump

>>2559014
Kamala stans make the exact faggot argument OP did
Your mum should kill herself

What do you determine is useful information and what's not? That's the more important question. Until we talk about that it will be endless shitflinging between the two extremes.

>>2559451
>What do you determine is useful information and what's not?
Emprical evidence of it working in real life or not.

>>2532299
There is truth behind this post but it only is correct about imperialist countries.

dont care didnt ask

>>2633998
Leftcom gives an unmaterialist argument

>>2633774
they don't really have to. just stop feeding trump's soldiers: they haven't been paid for like six months and are stuck overseas with no rotation out in sight.

>>2633979
not sure what the fight would be. the number of american bases is staggering, hundreds of legal ones and probably a fuckload of brownstone epstein apartments blacksites.

having said that, even if the us already has bases in europe, they're all manned by europeans so they don't even have to raid/roadblock them they can just walk one building over to arrest the seppo commanders.

>>2634038
also, having said this out loud. it's fucking stupid that we accept weak liberal lies about how durable globalism is and how their hands are tied when the material facts on the ground are so brittle and flimsy.

>>2633769
so what stops them from raping america then

>>2634024
Meme-worthy