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DPRK

>>We posted 3.1% growth in 2023 and 3.7% in 2024. Industrial output hit 105% of target. Ten thousand new homes rose in Pyongyang in a single year.


USA

>>40% of Americans can't cover a $400 emergency. Inflation ate 20% of their purchasing power since 2020. While we built homes, they built tent cities. While we hit production targets, they hit record eviction filings.


DPRK

>>We shut our borders, deployed health surveillance, and relied on traditional medicine and domestic production no Western vaccines, no Big Pharma blackmail.


USA

>>Over 1.1 million dead from COVID and they still haven't learned. Their healthcare system is a for-profit slaughterhouse. Insulin costs 10x what it does anywhere else. Opioid overdoses kill 100,000 a year. They don't protect their people they process them into profit margins.

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>>2843040
>and relied on traditional medicine and domestic production
Chinese Vaccines were heavily used.
https://www.nknews.org/2022/06/gavi-understands-north-korea-administering-covid-19-vaccines-from-china/
>Solar panels now power our factories
Not even CLOSE, i think you know this, it's just notable because it's such a weird little thing to actively lie about.
<we we we we us we
You're not from the DPRK, you're a schizophrenic from southern USA.

>>2843054
>you're a schizophrenic from southern USA.

I think he's from Washington state actually, someone says this same cop was posting on 420chan's /pol/ in 2011-12 while in police academy and criminal justice schooling. Nobody confirmed, but I do remember the cop from 420chan who said his life goal was to end communists and anarchists. he was banned from 420chan too.



 

genuinely, why the FUCK is no one talking about el niño?
usually the media will use known nothingburgers to alarm people while sweeping actual happenings under the rug, compare ebola/hantavirus to the covid pandemic, for example. the fact that we're all dead silent about this potentially never-before-seen happening is extremely worrying to me, what do they know? is it really as bad as current predictions? could it be fucking worse?
the most optimistic predictions would place this as the worst el niño in history, even worse than the 19th century one which resulted in millions of deaths worldwide. now, combine that with pre-existing shortages in the supply chains due to the iran war, which limits the amount of fertilisers available, and we could be looking at a total catastrophe, we'd face floods, famines, and even worse temperatures, with effects varying depending on geographical location

the worst part is, i cant even find any cope trying to debunk this like you had with covid, people are just accepting it or covering their ears trying to ignore it, this gives me a reaaaally bad feeling, im starting to tweak out. are we genuinely fucked? is it unironically over?
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>>2841241
youre focusing on unrealistic predictions made by anonymous schizos online instead of the actually reasonable ones by serious political analysts that accurately predicted the effects of the war.

>>2841241
Cuba, Haiti and Sudan

I've been hearing about le hyper niño for months by now on my news feed but I never ever click

can any of you goyim explain to me what is it and how will it kill millions?

>>2842871
Drought and famine, especially for regions that are already struggling with excessive droughts, I know you are purposefully being obtuse, but how do you get through life being this ignorant? A pig is more curious then you

>>2842888
first: rude, I'm just le asking questions :^)

I know it's not your job to educate or agitate or organize, but your information here is fucking garbage and I have learned nothing new from it (an-nihil being low autism score was already known information)



 

Brazilian court convicts Jair Bolsonaro’s son of seeking US help for his father
The office of Brazil’s ‌prosecutor general had ‌charged Eduardo Bolsonaro with courting US authorities to help his ‌father’s case by imposing sanctions on the court’s justices and tariffs on Brazilian goods. The younger Bolsonaro, a former lawmaker, moved to the United States in 2025, months before ‌the trial that convicted the rightwing ex-president of plotting a coup.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/16/brazilian-court-convicts-eduardo-bolsonaro-us-help-father-jair

Peruvian Prosecutor Seeks Prison Terms for Former Police Chief Over Injuries During Protests
Zanabria was leading police operations in Lima when social protests erupted following Castillo’s imprisonment on Dec. 7, 2022. At the time, social unrest spread to cities across the country for two months, especially in southern Peru’s Andean region, where the former leader had received his strongest electoral support.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/peruvian-prosecutor-seeks-prison-terms-for-former-police-chief-over-injuries-during-protests/

Tireless human rights activist Taty Almeida, founding member of Madres de Plaza de Mayo, dies at 95
Almeida's life changed forever after the disappearance of her son Alejandro, aged 20, in 1975 at the hands of the far-right Triple A paramilitary organisation. For decades, she demanded answers from the state as to his fate. … The activist’s daughter, Fabiana Almeida, told reporters that she and her brother Jorge realised on Sunday morning that their mother "wasn't doing well.”
https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argentina/tireless-human-rights-activist-taty-almeida-founding-member-of-madres-de-plaza-de-mayo-dies-at-95.phtml
https://archive.ph/n2buG

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Federal prosecutors charge 15 people with impeding agents during Minnesota immigration crackdown
Federal prosecutors have charged 15 people with impeding the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown in Minnesota, accusing them of conspiring against the federal government through a range of actions intended to block arrests and deportations. During a news conference Tuesday, Minnesota U.S. Attorney Daniel N. Rosen said the defendants “violently opposed the enforcement of federal law” by setting up blockades around government buildings, throwing chunks of ice at federal vehicles and “stalking” agents as they moved through Minneapolis.
https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-trump-ice-98e30301d67d3a368efbd8fafa72bf17

Pro-Zionist organization files discrimination charges against National Education Assocation
In April, the pro-Zionist Louis D. Brandeis Center for Human Rights Under Law filed charges with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) last April against the National Education Association (NEA), claiming the teachers’ union created a “hostile environment” for Jewish and Israeli members, particularly at a July 2025 Representative Assembly in Portland, Oregon.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/06/16/arxr-j16.html

In Senate Race, Michigan’s El-Sayed Hammers Message on Medicare for All
El-Sayed made the case for the program—supported by more than 100 members of the Democratic caucus in Congress as well as 78% of Democratic voters—in a video he posted on social media Monday, asking Michigan voters to imagine being diagnosed with cancer—only to realize they’ll have to drive three hours to get the nearest cancer center, like many residents who don’t live near one of Michigan’s two nationally designated, comprehensive cancer treatment facilities.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/medicare-for-all-abdul-el-sayed

Trump-backed Collins beats Kemp’s pick to take on Ossoff for Georgia Senate
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Tudeh Party welcomes U.S.-Iran agreement, warns against "merchants of war"
The Iranian communist party argues that the country remains trapped in a state of political uncertainty despite the reported framework agreement. According to the article, Iran today finds itself "neither at war nor at peace," facing a complex combination of external threats and deep internal crises. The Tudeh Party strongly condemns the recent military aggression carried out by Israel and the United States against Iran, highlighting the devastating consequences of attacks on civilian infrastructure and warning of the dangers posed by continued imperialist intervention in the region. The article points to the bombing of civilian facilities and the threat of a broader regional conflict as evidence of the aggressive nature of U.S. policy. At the same time, the party stresses that the gravest challenges facing Iran stem from domestic conditions. Rising inflation, unemployment, poverty, social inequality and the continued erosion of living standards have placed enormous burdens on millions of workers and ordinary people. The article notes that growing labor, pensioners' and social protests demonstrate the persistence of widespread dissatisfaction with the country's economic and political situation.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/06/tudeh-party-welcomes-us-iran-agreement-warns-against-merchants-of-war.html

The Far Right Is Fueling Racist Violence in Belfast, with State Complicity
Belfast still bears the scars of the decades-long civil and religious conflict known as The Troubles. Walking a single block, you can pass from a Republican neighborhood with tricolor flags and murals supporting Palestine and a 32-county Irish Republic, into a unionist neighborhood where Union Jacks abound and pro-monarchist slogans and images of the king are common. In the latter neighborhood, you can even find the occasional mural supporting the Israeli Defense Forces. And no wonder. Belfast’s history in the 20th century is marked by repeated attacks by unionist groups on Republican (mostly Catholic) neighborhoods, burning their homes and businesses — often with the complicity of the local police and the British army, which at the time occupied all of Northern Ireland undPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>"nationalist and patriotic" third world right winger
>spends hundreds of millions of their ill-gotten gains trying to bribe the empire to put sanctions on their country
>still have millions of downright fanatics at home
I think I'll abandon this world before ever understanding this



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Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels developed a way of understanding society, history, and social change that remains essential for anyone trying to make sense of the world today. Their work is not a collection of abstract ideas or moral pronouncements. It is a method of analysis, a critique of capitalism, and a political project aimed at creating a more equitable world. This guide introduces the fundamental concepts of Marxism in accessible language.

The materialist foundation
The most basic distinction in Marxist thought is between idealism and materialism. Idealism holds that ideas come first, that the material world is shaped by thoughts and concepts. Religious and magical thinking are forms of idealism, as is the common belief that human nature is fixed and unchangeable. Materialism holds the opposite: material conditions come first, and our ideas arise from them. Marxists believe that how a society produces food, shelter, and other necessities shapes everything else, including our ideas, beliefs, and values. This does not mean ideas don't matter. It means they emerge from material conditions and cannot be understood apart from them. When people ask why human beings behave in certain ways, Marxists look first to the economic and social structures in which people live.

Historical materialism
Historical materialism applies this way of thinking to history. The material conditions of a society determine its social structure, and class struggle drives historical change. Societies evolve through different modes of production, each containing internal contradictions that eventually lead to its replacement.

Human history has passed through several stages. There was primitive communism, where hunter-gatherer societies existed without class divisions. Slave society built ancient civilizations on slave labor. Feudalism followed, with its lords, serfs, and peasants. Capitalism is the industrial system we live under today. Each stage contains contradictions that lead to its replacement by a new system, and capitalism is no exception.

Class struggle
Class struggle is at the center of Marxist analysis. In every class society, a ruling class controls the means of production and an oppressed class does the work. Under capitalism, the bourgeoisie owns factories, machinery, land, and other productive property. The proletariat owns only its laPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

The state and its fate
Marxism views the state—government, police, military, and courts—as an instrument of class rule. It is not neutral. Under capitalism, the state protects private property, enforces contracts favorable to capital, suppresses worker resistance, and promotes capitalist ideology.

After a socialist revolution, the proletariat would use the state to suppress the old ruling class. But as class distinctions disappear, the state becomes unnecessary. It would wither away, replaced by cooperative, democratic management of society. This is not anarchism. It is a prediction about what happens when class antagonisms end. The state exists because classes exist. When classes are eliminated, the state has nothing to do.

Reform and revolution
Marxism argues capitalism cannot be reformed into a just system. Its contradictions will intensify and cannot be resolved within the system. Reforms can improve conditions in the short term, but they are always limited, can be rolled back, and do not change the fundamental power structure. Eventually, reforms reach their limits.

Revolution means the working class takes state power, the means of production are socialized, and society is reorganized in the interests of the majority. This is not a coup or a rebellion. It is a political process that requires workers to develop class consciousness, organize collectively, and seize control of the state.

Workers must understand their position in society, recognize their common interests, and realize the need for collective action. This does not happen automatically. Effective revolution requires trade unions for economic struggle, political parties for political struggle, and leadership to provide strategy and coordination.

The phrase "dictatorship of the proletariat" is widely misunderstood. It does not mean dictatorship in the authoritarian sense. It means workers exercise political power, the old ruling class is suppressed, and democracy is extended to the majority rather than reserved for the wealthy.

Socialism and communism
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Marxism and anarchism
Marxists and anarchists share opposition to capitalism, but they differ on fundamental questions of strategy and organization. Marxists see the state as a tool that can be used for liberation. Anarchists view all states as inherently oppressive. Marxists argue a transitional worker's state is necessary. Anarchists believe the state must be abolished immediately. Marxists emphasize organization and discipline. Anarchists favor spontaneous action and decentralization. Marxists see revolution as a process requiring planning. Anarchists envision revolution as immediate and total.

Imperialism
Lenin extended Marx's analysis to understand imperialism, which he called the highest stage of capitalism. Imperialism is characterized by monopoly capitalism, where giant corporations dominate; finance capital, where banks control industry; the export of capital to less developed countries; the division of the world among capitalist powers; and intensified competition leading to war. Imperialism is not a policy choice. It is the logical outcome of capitalism's drive for profit and expansion.

Why Marxism matters today
Marxism remains relevant because the problems it identified have only grown more urgent. The environmental crisis is driven by capitalism's profit motive, which treats nature as an infinite resource and externalizes environmental costs. Capitalist competition leads to war, arms races, and conflict. Inequality is not a side effect of capitalism. It is a feature of the system.

Only a planned economy based on human need, not profit, can address ecological collapse. Peace is impossible within a system based on competition for markets and resources. Capitalism produces not just inequality but also fascism and authoritarianism as responses to its own crises.

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>>2842768
>Imperialism

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>>2842766
>as is the common belief that human nature is fixed and unchangeable
Material conditions bless Karl Marx he found that human nature was, is and will be labor!



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Unless men are maddened in the battlefield they cannot stand it to hear appeals for help and not respond to them. The hero goes, and what the hero does, all feel they ought to have done as well. The sophisms of the brain cannot resist the mutual aid feeling, because this feeling has been nurtured by thousands of years of human social life and hundreds of thousands of years of prehuman life in societies.
-Kropotkin

In the US when I hear a defense of our founding fathers who owned slaves, particularly Jefferson and Washington, I always hear that morals were just different back then and that you basically can’t expect these people to know any better in 1776. This is stupid.

Morality is a constant. You know when you’re harming someone or inconveniencing them. You should think of how they feel about it and you should judge particularly impactful interactions for yourself and others from as many angles as possible as many times as possible. Don’t be neurotic, but hearing the screams of someone being whipped shouldn’t take a struggle session and psychological damage to evoke emotions over. Ruminating on all the memories that stick out we which ones we could’ve and should’ve acted better in. It’s a natural, gut instinct that some defective people may be born without, but it’s a common factor that should be the basis for society.

This is very vague, I’ve only described a notion of what’s “moral” or “not moral” and these categories do need to be demystified, but the constant shifting and adjusting for moral shores is the job of legislatures. I know many will come and start posing moral hypotheticals which I’ll be happy to answer, but in a world where were giving back to the billionaires directly without even bothering to mask it, giving back to foreign proxy’s with shrinking domestic protections, and giving back to politicians, cops and even criminals willing to abuse the courts system without any consideration or efficiency for the people making the system run, I want to focus on at least starting to round the edges.

I know this places namesake is 4chan. I see the reading list contains antisemitic texts, not just chapters from Bakunin, but shit like The Jewish Question and a section on German Idealism. I’m not an idiot, but clearly you’re all here because you feel something that keeps you off platforms like instagram and twitter and yet a compulsion to strive for better than 4chan. Typically the most politically involved Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Bumping because I would like a Kropotkin flag

>>2827879
>Unless men are maddened in the battlefield they cannot stand it to hear appeals for help and not respond to them.
Damn, this guy lived in a crazy bubble. How could an aristocrat like him get such a rosy view of humanity? Did he never overhear his peers talking about the lower orders?

>>2842685
He wrote this after escaping a tsarist gulag and spending nearly 30 years exiled in Western Europe. The man was born aristocratic but willingly chose to become a naturalist and advocate for the rights of all men, which got him thrown in prison. He knew more of the depravity of mankind than I think most of us ever will.

I wouldn't say morality is constant, but it is true that there's a kernel of human empathetic instinct around which most moral systems develop. Even the most blatantly horrific atrocities like chattel slavery and the Holocaust had to make extensive ideological efforts to dehumanize the victims. The perpetrators knew that if anybody saw them as human beings, the inherent instinct for empathy would undermine their legitimacy. Ever since its inception, class society has had to wage a constant battle against this instinct in order to survive. Kropotkin definitely had a point about communism being the truest expression of humanity's natural social and empathetic inclinations.

>>2842784
>I wouldn't say morality is constant
I think there are cultural contexts which give some things more or less meaning, but the effect you’ve had on others could, can, and always will be able to be quantified along the exact same lines of good and bad.



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Both were against to differing degrees singular individuals accumulating extreme wealth to oppose everyone. Both wanted high decentralization and sometimes assumes an agrarian material world. Jeffersonian democracy is interesting because it's based on the idea that people can govern themselves without experts leading them, and that liberty is kept alive through local organization autonomy and action.

Jefferson himself however was a slave owner and a rapist and a bad person, but I don't think that invalidates some of his ideas. And he supported private property.

Thoughts?
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some of the founding fathers were based

>>2839560
Paine. That's it.

>>2839560
Most were

>>2839439
The probably with Jeffersonian democracy is eventually all the yeoman farmers turn into proles.

socialism was just the logical conclusion to liberalism, but liberals stopped being radicals once they became the new elite



 

Despite some of the inherited Leftist rhetoric, a lot of modern Leftoids and especially American ones, jfc, just come across as hating and despising most ordinary people. If you think they are irredeemably racist and sexist, patriarchal, white supremacist, contaminated with so many 'bad ideas' and the 'muck of ages' that they need to be 'deprogrammed' before they can begin to be part of your oh so effective attractive politics (lol), any notion that the Left is interested in, let alone capable of, helping to produce a mass workers' movement will just not be credible. If your party is full of people who are agoraphobic shut-ins who won't be told that if they want to be ultra radical activist whatevers then they need to speak to normal people and be marginally normal, then you'll be laughed at, and with good reason.

Normies look at the actually existing Left, what it claims for itself and what it claims to be wanting to do, the immense difficulty of it, and they laugh and they do not want to touch it, with their lack of time, money and energy, *and they are not wrong to do so*. It isn't (all) 'muh false consciousness'.

You cannot be seen as just a performatively radical subculture which despises, in practice, most normal people. You cannot fear populist politics because gasp you may have to rub shoulders with people with some dodgy and confused politics. That is the name of the game.

This is why griftoids like ACP get some of the credibility they do because at least they are willing to say the emperor has no clothes and not to just hate normal people.

This sentiment really is the dominant attitude of so much of the Left and it fizzes off so many of us all the time. And I hate it.

Just a vent. Needed to be said.
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>>2841937
Lenin said so bro

>>2840962
Most eschatological movements and 'ideologies' (including much of online 'leftism') hate ordinary people. They're all dumb, filthy, hedonistic, ignorant sinful sheeple etc who should be cynically manipulated, used, sacrificed and exterminated in the name of the "greater good". (i.e. some apocalyptic hyperreal narrative compensating for socio and psychosexual insecurities)
Anyway ACP is led by freaks too. Most people just wanna grill, nothing ever happens etc.

>>2841846
>After spending almost 20 years attacking them for completely delusional reasons.
Literally just doubling down on not taking any responsibility. Literally reactionary.
>>2841846
>It's not about introspection, even progressive straight white guys were attacked. In fact they were the ones that got attacked the most by their "political allies".
And what are you doing right now?

>>2840962
>
>This is why griftoids like ACP get some of the credibility they do because at least they are willing to say the emperor has no clothes and not to just hate normal people.
Haz doesn't do that. He is a lazy streamer who never worked a day in his life. Saw him harassing random people at work while he was streaming on the street in LA just so he can make stream slop. Saw him then go and rant about how he would raze LA to the ground because… l can't really say… just he was dissapointed in his trip and he waan't just swimming in pussy and praise from people from some city he just arrived to for vacation. Seem him rant about his food delivery drivers dared to ask him to buz them into his apartment so they could bring him his tendies. Dude is literally the opposite of supporting the ordinary person.

>>2842159
Haz sounds like if Eliot Rodger had decided to become a communist

>>2840962
Fuck the people, only the vanguard counts



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Why are Western bourg so incredibly invested in protecting Israel? At some point it’s hard for me to believe they have this much to gain from protecting this tiny sliver of land. What the fuck is going on?
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Why are Russian bourg so incredibly invested in protecting Serbia? At some point it’s hard for me to believe they have this much to gain from protecting this tiny sliver of land. What the fuck is going on?

Because almost all western governments are bought out by Israeli and megacorp lobbies, or follow the diktats of America whose government is bought out by the Israeli and megacorp lobbies. In the latter’s case, it’s big tech. And big tech loves Israel not only because Silicon Valley is full of psychotic chuds with a god complex and thus see the Jews in terms of class solidarity wherein their hatred of the Palestinians is a diffusion of their hatred for the prole in general while the Jews are the bourgeois, but also because Israel is a tech hub between Asia and Europe, which is also why China massively trades with Israel. I mean, hello where do you think the various spywares used by governments Worldwide come from?

There’s also the fact that America is, well, a fucking ZOG. In this case, western support for Israel is also ideological, especially given how powerful Jewish lobbies are.

>>2840987
>An answer to this that lots of people ignore sadly is incumbency bias - at this point, an entire generation of civil servants, politicians, journalists, military officers etc … Nobody *ever* admits to that and they are not going to allow a process to take place that ends with them being up before the dock. And people who work under them know that it won't be good for their careers to be seen to support that sort of outcome. And this bias is so fundamental that it doesn't need to be explained by muh lobby money or whatever … That is where the absolute fanaticism comes from.
I think this is closer to the mark, although not so much a latent awareness of having been complicit in human rights abuses. It's more about status and Israel is also serving as a proxy for this struggle over recognition. Status is about who's respected in society and who's not. Status is related to class but it sits kind of orthogonal to it. So there's an entire generation of politicians, civil servants, journalists, military officers etc. who feel like they've "made it," and that they represent the center of society. It's relational to others and how they're seen and/or taken seriously and by whom. Also people who are trying to defend their status rarely say that's what they're doing, they'll say they're defending "civilization" or "common sense" or "tradition" or "morality" or something. Israel represents "civilization" and Hamas represents the "barbarians."

They feel insecure too because there's a lot of immigration from Muslim countries, and those immigrants and their kids don't rock with Israel, to put it mildly. But if you listened to any of Zohran Mamdani's speeches, he would articulate his candidacy for New York mayor as representing Uzben nurses and Senegelese cab drivers, people who are not "seen" or respected in any case. (That's also related to Graham Platner and the disgust some of his opponents in American society have for him, like establishment media and political types, even if Platner isn't really "working class" he looks like a "barbarian" to tastemakers.) This is also why you can get alt-right types who a few years ago were making antisemitic statements mutate into being pro-Israel guys, they exist, it's not a totally cynical maneuver, they really do feel threatened in some kind of way.

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>>2842034
>They feel insecure too because there's a lot of immigration from Muslim countries, and those immigrants and their kids don't rock with Israel
Literally nobody rocks with Israel. even in your picture as an example, the Solidarity orgs and so on up and down the country are full of young and old white people along with all other people. Notably they have been hating Israel, paradoxically oct7 probably increased sympathy for Israel compared to the levels before, i remember doing activism and etc around Cast Lead, my first real introduction to the topic, and even back then my parents would tell me how it's been so bad since they were my age.
Israel has never been popular here, this is a big part of why the media and state is so heavy handed on the issue. It's the whole reason they had to create the EDL, Tommy Ten Names and so on.

Leftards and baizuos worldwide will never admit to this, both because they don't read books and have mostly abandoned materialism, but also because the well has been poisoned beyond belief mostly by agents of zioninsm themselves and their greatest neo-nazi allies/useful idiots and they'd rather not be associated with that.

One of the strongest reasons for this is that the riches and fortunes of jewish banking dynasties are foundational to the current day west, a great number of western porkies are in their position because their allowed to be there by what's essentially a zionist mafia, else they'd get gatekept or worse. The zionist project is a not a colony of the west, it is a pet project of the masters of the western banking system and they've successfully recruited the top echelons of western haute society to their cause. Maybe the westards are mostly non-believers (but that may be changing) but they still have a material interest of protecting their standing in this system regardless of their personal views on the matter - and be honest, we all know they wouldn't be spared if justice ever comes to these issues, so the self-preservation angle is likely stronger for most of the elite as religious zeal is for the original creators of the idea.



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Which is more correct:

>Communists should treat the petty bourgeoisie, the bourgeoisie, the liberals, the social democrats, the conservatives, the fascists, and the anarchists as equally hostile threats to Communism, never distinguish between them as groups, and always lump them in with each other. No effort should be made to pit these groups against each other, it should be assumed they are all on the same team and would never fight each other. None of these groups are worthy of critical support against others, not even in the context of anti-imperialism.


<Communists should distinguish between their enemies, since their enemies have different motivations and different interests. They can and should be pit against one another. Critical support should be given to lesser enemies against stronger enemies, to weaken the stronger enemies, and get the lesser enemies eliminated early. Social democrats should not be simply regarded as left wing fascists in a stale regurgitation of the 1920s comintern line, especially since Stalin abandoned that line and was even willing to tolerate liberal bourgeoisie like Roosevelt and conservative bourgeoisie like Churchill as allies against Hitler. Depending on context, groups are often worthy of critical support against others, especially in the context of anti-imperialism.


I think it is clearly the second, one, yet I often see takes approximating the first one on here. Why is that?
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>>2834415
>no porky blood on the knife
a true class-warrior does not re-sheathe his blade until it has drawn bourgeois blood

>>2834292
What does critical support mean? Are you sending them guns, money, specialized labor, convincing logistics workers in the imperial core to strike? Or is just something about memes?

>>2841798
Its about spreading propaganda about them.

>>2834336
I enjoy the Comintern Third Period LARP and you will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever be able to take that away from me.

>>2841928
Your honesty is a beautiful thing to behold…. sometimes



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The cycle of marxist-leninism
>First Kill all other types of marxists
>Then start killing other marxist-leninists
>Then start killing the working class
>Then sell out to liberalism and capitalism.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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>>2842050
the slander just doesn't hold water given the context of soviet underdevelopment and nazi aggression. losurdo's book western marxism gives a rundown of all the awful shit western imperial powers did in the periphery in the lead up to ww2 and it's sickening. for whatever reason we get a steady stream of flogs from history 101 that want to litigate soviet standoff policy.

we've had this exact thread on a weekly basis and it always goes the same way.

>>2841493
tell us, Genius Anon, what would you have done if you were in the USSR's shoes?

>>2842445
Literally just not sign the pact.

>>2841860
Make me bitch lmao

>>2842757
mhm. and what do you think that would do to the Nazis' inevitable "invade the USSR" timeline? would it hasten it or would it delay it?



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