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IRAN THREAD FOR ANTI-IMPERIALISTS
For a while now, threads related to Iran have been hijacked by an ultroid who bemoans the death of petit-bourgeois wreckers as 'prole deaths', who supports Israeli-American colour revolutions, and who openly cheers the Israeli-American bombing of Iran, without forgetting the obligatory russophobia and sinophobia. That OP is most probably a persian diasporoid faggot who added lefcuckism as his list of misfortunes.

We have been silent for far too long. We will now have this thread for honourable and dignified communists to discuss happenings in Iran.
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>>2711779
>anti imperialism isnt real
are you ready to apologize to Iran or are you still in denial?

>>2711840
lmao anti-campists were really posting graphics about how military contractors grift the federal goverment as proof the US was going to steamroll this shit or something

>>2714455
>fighting capital is when you bomb gulf nation
is this true socdemxisters?

Unequal Exchange: The Engine of Modern Imperialism

<Torkil Lauesen joins us to discuss his book Unequal Exchange: Past, Present, and Future and the hidden mechanics of modern imperialism. Lauesen returns to the tradition of Arghiri Emmanuel to argue that while the world market tends to equalize prices, wages remain radically unequal across borders – driving a structural transfer of value from low-wage production zones to high-wage consumer economies.


<We walk through Lauesen’s reconstruction of unequal exchange through Marx’s value theory, the leading approaches to measuring global value transfer, and what contemporary estimates imply about the scale of the drain. From there, we explore the political consequences inside the Global North: why reformism and social democracy have often been stabilized by imperial arrangements, what that means for internationalism, and why the “imperial mode of living” is increasingly unstable.


<Finally, we turn to the shifting world order – especially Lauesen’s argument that a new mode of production may be emerging, best exemplified by China – and what that implies for the future of capitalism, multipolarity, and socialist transition. We also discuss the ongoing war/conflict involving Iran and what it reveals about crisis, hegemony, and the changing methods of imperial power.

>>2750044
socdems are bombpilled? i wasnt familiar with their game, maybe I understimated them but all the ones i know are legalistpilled



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Dancing Israelis. What are the odds?

Think we'll have videos of them hitting cellies? Socks full of money? Blueprints to the city. (https://abcnews.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1) Explosive residue on their clothes? Explosive residue in a van? Boltcutters? Prepaid tickets to leave the US right after the event? https://www.haaretz.com/2001-09-17/ty-article/5-israelis-detained-for-puzzling-behavior-after-wtc-tragedy/0000017f-db50-d3ff-a7ff-fbf0d7830000

Admitting to being there to document "an event" on live TV in Israel?

Then years later when people ask about it on reddit the thread will have 100 aggressive users calling documented events "hateful conspiracies"?

What are the odds? I say 50/50 now but I'd raise those odds if the war in Iran stagnates much longer or if the dems win big in the mid terms.

The FBI report says they interviewed a former Urban Moving Systems employee, and he told them he quit because of a "high amount of anti-American sentiment" among the employees there, and he says that one of the Israelis told him, "give us 20 years and we'll take over your media and destroy your country". Like if you wrote that as dialog in a parody of antisemitic conspiracy theories, you would end up removing it for being too on the nose and exaggerated.

I want to know how Dominik Suter (the owner of Urban Moving Systems) got out of the US and into Israel after 911. All the flights were grounded for weeks, and the borders were totally locked down. Its not like he took a train to Israel. Max Blumenthal's "Suter was just a fraudster" theory can't explain that. The FBI report also says one of the witnesses noticed the van on the roof 45 minutes before the first plane hit.

Classic International Movers helping a hijacker move in Miami also complicates the fraudster theory. And the versions of the photos the FBI released were clearly photocopied several times to intentionally destroy the quality. The fact that the full case file is like 1200 pages or some shit, but they only released i think a couple hundred, makes me suspect there's more to it than is publicly known.
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Thoughts

>>2751445
Sounds like you are hoping for something to happen.



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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Sleepwalking Towards Oblivion Edition


>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


💀 ICE & Prison Resources
(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)
https://www.iceinmyarea.org/ – ICE tracker using public info and user submissions
https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers – list of deaths at ICE concentration camps
https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/ – visualization of prison population in US
https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf – RANT Collective - Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in
https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html – database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites
https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources – list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc
https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents – ICE Agent List (incomplete)
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>>2751281
>not gay

>>2751238
Germaine Greer, AKA female Epstein

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>>2751295
Ghislaine Greer

new thread >>2751331



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That cross eyed POS (piece of shit) think he can tell us what to do and what to think just because he got tons of cunny (underage girls privates) when he was a schoolteacher (professeur d'écoles) dont mean he gets to tell me i must live a certain way. Though we can all admit he is FAR more based than Junger (Ernst Junger) who never had the courage to dismantle reactionary gynocracy (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majorit%C3%A9_sexuelle_en_France) by having sex with underage girls (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fille).
I liked him in Boris Vian though.
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>>2750477
>just do marxism but like, with the individual dude

I'm currently reading his book "search of a method" and quite frankly his thought and ideas seem very anecdotical and uninteresting. I understand that the context of marxism in the 1950s was different than it is now and as such made the ideology appear as more deterministic, but even then I can't shake the feeling that this is too big of a development to simply adress the issue of tendencies within marxist circles at his time.
His whole philosophy to me seems very basic and overdeveloped. Radicalizing subjectivism doesn't seem to require as much development than he gave it. Similarly criticizing other ideologies that you agree with on the basis that it's not sensible enough for "le individual" is dishonest. Maybe I'm missing something but his thought appears as a more developed Stirner with humanist tendencies and vocab. Thoughts ?

>>2750739
Fagitue

I think we should just stop giving any consideration to that bunch of French pederasts that too many consider 'intellectuals'. A lot of mumbojumbo with a few captivating catchphrases thrown into the mix. There's plenty of other stuff one can read and get valuable insights from.
One of the actually based Frenchmen, Pierre Bourdieu, correctly stated that in a capitalist society, intellectuals are fundamentally a dominated section of the dominant class: they have a cultural capital they can profit from on the market instead of a classic financial or industrial form of capital. There are obviously individual exceptions, but the place of the intellectual is just that.
I guess that's why you constantly have people salivating on faggots like the ones OP and other anons talk about itt, while you rarely get any mention of Bourdieu.

>>2751032
The flag of Algeria was made by an anarcho-syndicalist woman who fugged w/ one of the main figures behind the natlib

how about dong-pull shartre



 

Let's say the revolution happens and it goes smoothly, No civil war or foreign interference which prevents it from properly functioning, and it transitions into a socialist economy, How authoritarian would your state be?
What amount of authority is tolerable in your view?

This question isn't directed to anarchists because obviously
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>>2746761
It's hard to tell what you mean by authoritarianism but I'll try to answer:
>legislative sortitioned single-chamber assembly with recall ability for constituents
>constitutional protection of standard liberal democratic civil rights like free speed + safeguards against oligarchical wielding of mop
>direct democratic relations of production with delegation of powers and recall ability, public resource pool for individual and group enterprise managed by councils, government sector takes very centralized or vital industries

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>>2748038
>t. believes in authoritarianism

>>2746761
Authority is a consequence of the town-country contradiction and the bourgeois family. No centralization of administration in the town, no dependency of working mothers on patriarchs and you don't have authority. Internet and commie blocks basically solve the problem of authoritarianism.

There is an inescapable distance of two centuries* between a succesful revolution and actual State-less, money-less and (perhaps) authority-less communism. I like the way so many of my comrades here are fighting to not let our very high and dignified ultimate goal of human emancipation be forgotten. I believe however we must also dedicate some of that energy to think about the immediate transition, during which no doubt authority and the State will be needed. As of how much, I would only say that in the same way capitalism employs authority to suppress the emergence or everything that pushes towards socialism, socialism will employ it's authority to make the ressurgence of capitalism impossible. The goal of gradually increasing the social ownership of the means of production should be put in the constitution and publicly attacking that goal should be legally punished in the same way we are legally punished right now for objecting to the liberal rights of private property.

* I invented this number.




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The neoliberal hymn to the individual has always been a lie dressed in idealism. Under capitalism, the individual is not liberated but crushed, flattened into a commodity, her desires subordinated to the logic of accumulation, her capacity for self-expression hollowed out by the relentless demand to sell herself piece by piece. What passes for individualism in free‑market ideology is merely the abstract isolation of the wage laborer, a collective system of slavery that masquerades as freedom. True individualism, the kind Marx glimpsed in the possibility of a society where human flourishing is the measure of production, is not opposed to communism, it is its final realization. The individual shines not when she is set against the collective, but when the collective is empowered to free her from the commodified life that capitalism mistakes for existence.


>>Wage slavery is not individualism, it is the systematic destruction of the individual reduced to an economic unit of labor, stripped of autonomy, creativity, and the capacity for self‑determination. The neoliberal ideologue mistakes the atomized, precarious worker for a liberated subject, when in fact that worker is merely a node in capital’s collective apparatus. True individuality emerges only when the collective is organized not to exploit but to emancipate when labor is no longer a commodity, when the means of production are in common hands, when the individual’s unique capacities are cultivated rather than consumed. Communism does not erase the individual it makes individual flourishing on a societal level possible for the first time.
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It is genuinely entertaining to watch the ideological defenses of capitalism crumble under the weight of materialist analysis. The standard refrain that the abundance and innovation we enjoy are products of capitalist competition and individual genius ignores what becomes of art, culture, science and craft when profit becomes the sole organizing principle. Commodification does not simply cheapen material life; it strips culture of its soul, directs the science towards fields that don't always benefit us as a whole. Music, video games, cinema, any creative field subsumed by the hyper‑ late stage - capitalist model tends toward mechanic formula, risk aversion, and the relentless pursuit of the bottom line. The most enduring games, the most resonant albums, were rarely born from quarterly earnings projections; they emerged from spaces where passion, not profit, drove production. Capitalism did not invent creativity; it commodified it, then proceeded to enclose it, standardize it to bourgeoisie norms, and drain it of everything that made it vital. Individual artists and developers who once worked for love of the craft are now pushed to the margins, their visions chopped into marketable fragments, their names buried under corporate branding. The decline in quality is not incidental it is the necessary outcome of a system that treats creativity as a product and inventors as interchangeable labor. The evidence is everywhere, a gaming industry once animated by basement coders and small teams now churns out hollow sequels and micro transactions; a music industry once capable of producing genuine cultural movements now cycles through algorithm‑generated disposable pop. The moment capital fully colonizes a creative field, the field loses its capacity to surprise, to challenge, to reflect anything beyond the logic of accumulation. This is yet again, an example of capitalism crushing every aspect of the individual.

>>2749821
Frederick Douglass was a liberal, by the way
>>2749828
>A capitalist society is ruled by liberalism which sets the interests of the community against those of individuals, and places the interests of individuals above those of the community.
Yes, that is called universality by the rule of law; the alternative is to be enslaved by custom and tradition, as it persists in more patriarchal societies. Homosexuality, for example, can only have civic protection, where the individual's claim to liberty, is superior to the community (e.g. the family). If 99% of people are against you, yet you are protected by the law, then the individual is in fact facilitated by legality, which conserves the preservation of their being. Universality must then begin in concerns for minorities, with the individual being the ultimate minority.
>inequality
>juche
right, because no inequality exists in north korea… 🤣

>>2750305
>>Frederick Douglass was a liberal, by the way
>>upset with the juche quote

Definitely a white man.

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they don't necessarily always believe/think that, they just say that because it benefits them and they know better than to contradict an idea that benefits them. they want the proles to have crab bucket mentality.

>>2750346
based on post style and image choice, i'm assuming this is adam smith anon who is an avowed liberal so he's actually trying to reclaim douglass for himself. also he is british if i recall. no idea if he's white.



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>western diasporat
>privileged son of a bureaucrat
>calls for genocide of pesky workers who want to burn down his mansions
>backed by intelligence agencies
>popular everywhere but Iran
>be Mohammad Marandi
>pic unrelated
I feel dirty having this saved on my device doe……………………….

Flood or soth idkzddd
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>>2736082
>t. Never read a word of his

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>>2733410
His wife cucked him with her yoga instructor.

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>>2733410
There are Iranian liberal oppositionists (radical liberal, anti-monarchist) who make memes like this.

>popular everywhere but Iran
yeah right

#noticing



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>>2746752
>Previous Bake

<Hide, sage, report the Shlomos and Chets from Tel-aviv and Langley


Latest News:
>F-35 ack'd by Iran
<Trump is hiding the coffins
>Bibi AI clone is in damage control mode
<Iran is increasing drone/missile strikes
>Oil rising except brent and WTI because logistics or something
<RT journo almost killed on purpose by JDAM
>Trump humiliated Japanese PM with joke about Pearl Harbor
<War continues

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>>2750383
>the words in the textbooks are in the normal dictionary
and those definitions are different than the technical ones, just like they are in every scientific field

>>2750385
>you're wrong and you know it
no you

>>2750389
give an example of one.

Speed v.s velocity?
nah that seems right

I'm sure there are more specific and context dependent definitions, but it doesn't mean you cannot get the point across using standard definitions.

>>2749288
I think they open in 30 minutes mate

>>2749301
that's not a new thread

if you have trouble keeping up with communist analysis on a communist website and it pains you so much maybe you should try out reddit where you can stick to your "normal" definitions without pushback



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>Previous Bake
>>2747955

<Hide, sage, report the Shlomos and Chets from Tel-aviv and Langley


Latest News
>Iran struck Arad
<Trump panicking and trying to bail
>More to follow
<IRAN STRUCK DIMONAAAAAA
>5m tonnes of CO2 emitted in just 14 days of US war on Iran

>Important Links:

https://www.flightradar24.com/
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:52.7/centery:26.8/zoom:7
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>>2750380
Think it was along the lines of us giving Ukraine bombs and military advisors even at the cost of Putin putting the squeeze on oil.

Its an old meme from the Ukraine war when libs dismissed concerns about the cost of living with "Well that's just the price for freedom."

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>>2750255
Really burning down a building is not that easy, shit has systems in place for holding down a fire, putting out the video actually turns it into propaganda, so even if it wasn't very succesful, it will still work well into fanning flames and instilling fear into the capitalist class.

I don't know how either of those work(ed) out, but i think it's a pretty obvious logic. Especially if they're anarchists

>>2750285
yeah dude there have been zero revolutionary conditions like the many crises and mass worker movements that have happened repeatedly since, i dunno, FDR at least, and every single one of them have been pathetic failures of leninists to lead the masses to any kind of victory.
>vietnam anti-war movement
>ronald reagan's crackdowns
>oil shock
>dot com bubble burst
>9/11
>iraq anti-war movement
>2008 motherfucking OWS
>2016 elections
>2020 lockdowns
>2026 iran war

American "leninists" have been "organizing" (read: masturbating) for literally longer than Lenin's actual entire life and have NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO SHOW FOR IT

>>2750304
The guy down the street might buy a gun
And it isnt my problem because i leave people alone and dont break into peoples houses and kill members of their family



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Are the current military wing of the bourgeois settler reactionary. Thus they are the biggest direct threat to the revolution and working class and must be treated as such. Any leftist individual or organization that attempts to denounce this fact, no matter how loudly or subtly, should be treated as an enemy of the working-class, and swiftly rejected, denounced or removed. They are agents. The growth of working class power must always be backed by an apparent willingness to defend that power or it's pursuit from any and all reactionary attacks.
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>>2705283

3 days.

>>2705047

Pretty sure the lumpen criminals in ICE are majority white and Latino

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>>2749657

Most of the left has rendered itself wholly dependent on the Democratic Party and its NGO apparatus. Every four years it rediscovers just how “big” it is only to watch every one of its talking points squandered, obscured into shadow, the moment Democrats hold power. This has been the way for decades, brother. It is not merely about ICE or any single issue; the moment the Democrats take power, the left‑leaning activism that social media algorithms amplify is systematically shut down. Suddenly you realize the left has built nothing. All those millions of anti‑war liberal voices have become, in practice, nothing more than neoliberal Magas who are now pro-war, and cheer on the repression of anyone who dares resist. and yes your socialist organizations are connected to the DNC and their philanthropists, they have no problem with red branding their NGOs involved in this cycle, just like they have no problem green washing. I've studied this occurring time and time again throughout the 2000s.

Assuming the future remains locked in the same cycle we have always known does not alter the fact posted in the OP.

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Trump is the first president to shout out Marxists and anarchists by name, except Clinton, after he got all butthurt when they shut the wto confrence down in 1999. Funny, they're both Epstein frequents. Trump gives the left confidence, and he shattered the image of the liberal velvet glove that quietly wrecks movements. That’s low‑key why the liberals hated his approach. Trump challenges leftists and anarchists to be better, gives them confidence, while the liberal ignores them and destroys them from the shadows. When it comes down to it, I’ll take Tucker Carlson over Gavin Newsom any day. Trumps style of counter-insurgency method is a relic from the 1920s, which is perfect for opposition, using modern strategy.

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>Just say whitey or crackers, we know that's who you really mean, uygha.



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