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Feminists won and Chuds lost again.

No longer they can do problematic hate speech, with new ID verification laws finally children are safe from getting groomed by Chuds. I hope they will also add great firewall soon similar like China and ban all problematic websites like 4chan.
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parents will do anything but parent like just don't give them an Ipad with unrestricted youtube that shit not hard.

>>2754322
my primary question is: how is this information collected? cause like, if I'm just inputting a birth date without tying it to an identity, I will be able to do what every kid circa 2004 did to bypass any given age verification: 1/1/1901 now let me access the site, bitch.

and yeah I don't see how this helps feminists, or really, anyone other than major websites/platforms who don't want the responsibility of integrating some sort of age verification layer on their frontend. personally, it's a huge pain in the ass and it will be resisted and bypassed if people get pissed off enough about this.

Rule 14 a and g. Mods, OBLITERATE this social democratic reactionary anarchist peasantoid.

This false flag makes no sense THOUGH. How the flying fuck is it connected to feminism in any way?

>>2755116
You think rightards even know the answer to that?
They just pick a topic people don't like, and then tie it to whatever they dislike most, next one is going to say trans people did it, or DEI indians.



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>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


💀 ICE & Prison Resources
(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)
https://www.iceinmyarea.org/ – ICE tracker using public info and user submissions
https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers – list of deaths at ICE concentration camps
https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/ – visualization of prison population in US
https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf – RANT Collective - Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in
https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html – database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites
https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources – list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc
https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents – ICE Agent List (incomplete)
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The US military has accelerated the deployment of thousands of Marines and sailors to help reinforce US troops in the Middle East amid the war against Iran.

Four officials tell Newsmax the Boxer Amphibious Ready Group and the embarked 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit is deploying ahead of schedule from the West Coast and is expected to sail through the Indo-Pacific to the Middle East region after the Navy was ordered to surge additional fire power.

The Boxer Amphibious Ready Group includes the USS Boxer amphibious assault ship—which serves as a mini aircraft carrier—and USS Portland and USS Comstock amphibious landing ships. There are roughly 2,500 Marines–4,000 total service members aboard these three amphibs.
Additional Ships, Marines Deployed to Middle East

https://xcancel.com/CarlaBNewsmax/status/2034739998956953621#m

More goys in a box

CIA is dropping hints on Tucker's show that Charlie got Kirked by Mossad


It's pretty impressive (and depressing) how easily the attacks on Iran and US attempts to destabilize the region have been pushed entirely on israel, to the point you can have literal CIA operatives parroting the talking point and be hailed as heroes with "integrity"

The crazy part to me is selectively it's applied. Using Ukraine (and before that Georgia) as proxies to destabilize Russia and Myanmar, no problem. Doing the same in South America using militias and drug cartels (or drug enforcement in the casse of Paul Campo) no problem. but in the middle east despite installing the Shah, orchestrating the iraq- Iranian war, supporting Saddam Hussein, crating the talibian, and so on. All that goes out the window because people can't cope with concept of state officials lying about their intentions

>>2755078

That and the obvious /pol/ refuges trying to make this board "jewish aware" but that's more of a /isg/ issue

A anti-revisionist communist may be the next North Carolina senator. Anyone want to learn more?



 

What exactly is the ml cope to justify the chernobyl disaster and the attempted cover up by soviet authorities?








The body was too short or empty.
OK
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>>2754777
Industrial accidents happen, but I think the issue was really bureaucratism, excessive departmental secrecy. It helped the party run the country but it had its downsides.

Mailuu-Suu was arguably a lot worse but you’ll never hear about it from westerners because Chernobyl happened to le aryan and euro Ukkkrainians and Mailuu-Suu happened in Kyrgyzstan and westoids don’t even know enough about them to even be racist

>>2748356
Do MLs still defend the Soviet Union after Khrushchev? And in any case they wouldn't call the Soviet Union a perfect socialist state anyways so I'm not sure what your point is.

>>2754893
Nobody cares about uranium mining being genocidally dirty though, there are dozens of places like this, even in Japan, US or France

>>2754914
That’s what infuriates me about all the nuclear enthusiasts here, thorium is always two weeks away and waste disposal doesn’t matter



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Why are the bourgeoisie so unapologetically evil? I know this is a stupid question but its hard for me to fathom how a human being could be as malicious and uncaring as the bourgeoisie are. Do they not care at all for the suffering they cause humanity, and the destruction they bring to the planet as a whole? Or do they delusionally believe that what they are doing is somehow in the right?
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>>2702562
it's simple, they do it because they can

Because bourgeois positions select for low empathy, so that's the tendency. If a bougie has the opportunity to grow richer but refrains from doing so due to their morals, that leaves the opportunity vacant for another bougie to take.
Do note that bourgeois position don't usually select for other traits. Some are dull (Musk), some are smarter (Gates), some have low inhibition, while others have low self-awareness. So there's a multitude of different individuals composing this class.
Humans also always partake in ingroup behavior and bourgeois culture often involves displays of cruelty. An anon here correctly pointed out that the initiation rituals they have serve so everyone is compromised and thus willing to cooperate.

they are bored

I always though it was just people who just did evil even though i had the knowledge of evil consuming your entire life.

>>2702562
most of the time they aren't, as such. the wonders of modern organizational structure mean that nobody is responsible for evil things that happen. they just happen.
would you become evil just for going to a share trading site and clicking "buy"? the smug, glib answer you could give to play to the crowd is "yes", but you wouldn't really feel it in your heart. but you would be the shareholder who's value is to be maximized, you would be 1-millionth of the end that it's all supposedly for.

for everyone else: there's plenty of distractions, plenty more to be working on. if you think you're doing something for the greater good, or even something abstractly important, what does a little evil factor up against all the other practical problems you face?

also >>2752662

also-also: while occasionally it's just cope, it is also true that sometimes the most apparently evil bourgeoisie aren't so bad compared to the alternative. a sweatshop is evil, and all the evils of it are centralized in the figure of the owners of the sweatshop, but the alternative - everyone being subsistence farmers doomed to die next time there's a drought - is even more evil. it just lacks any individual to blame for that condition.



 

The western AI industry is estimated to be worth hundreds of billions of dollars. In 2026 that number will likely balloon even further as more and more capital is poured into the industry. The capitalist class whose shortsightedness is almost always a given has seemingly put all their eggs in this handbasket even at the expense of other sectors of the economy from consumer electronics to the water supply and electrical grids of small towns unfortunate enough to have had a datacenter built in their vicinity.
At the same time questions of what is being gained from these massive investments are being raised. If and when this bubble pops it will have adverse ripple effects across the entire global economic system and the capitalist class will be potentially set back trillions. In the process the contradictions that will lead to capitalism's downfall will intensify, opening the window for a socialist revolution. Even if AI and its related technologies can serve some kind of social good and help develop the productive forces. Actively cheering for an AI bubble burst effectively serves the same function as championing revolutionary defeatism whenever the ruling class wages imperialist wars.
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>>2754274
this is more significant than analysts are giving it credit because all the "world model" shit was pinned on some evolution of videogen, meaning that this is a technical dead end

I have been a rater for that shit for years, I don't personnaly use it. As a lowly worker in that field it is not getting better, meanwhile I have friends who fell for AI psychosis and adult students I kno are becoming completely dependant to it for anything to the point they spend the little money they have on tokens. I know there are some fields were it is useful but as far as mass consumerism is concerned it is pure alienation. I can't wait for that shit to burst.

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>>2752828
While China is one of the leaders in AI and has invested in the technology greatly. The Ai bubble is mostly issue for the west, not for China. The woe for western investors and the true horror of models such as deepseek is that. They are powerful, open and worst of all China went into the game with the expectation of not making any or very little money with the actual models.

Wester companies like openAI are all about having the best model and selling that for great profit for others. you can't compete as western AI company when your main competition doesn't expect to make a profit on the thing you are selling. They will undercut you every step of the way. Chinese tech sector however approached the whole AI thing with the expectation that the models themselves just enable other inventions like robotics and systems and those will make create the money and the growth. It's same it was with the internet. There was very little or at all money in building broadband networks and cell towers that enabled the whole thing. All the money was made at the "surface" of the tech. Like some mobile game or app with dev team of 12 people made 10000x of their initial investment.

When the bubble bursts and costs of AI drops, it will actually just benefit those who found a niche application for it and it will eventually democratize it further. Those who betted on GPU prices rising forever and somebody soon developing self improving AGI that they can rent for the rest of time for money will get fucked.

>>2754274
>AI bubble bursts
<Netanyahu suddenly stops appearing in public.

I do, but I still hope for Fully Automated Luxury Communism some day



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the cuban flotilla is being run by the PSL but they aren't using the PSL to push the flotilla because everyone with half a brain knows by now that the PSL has a history of sexually assaulting cadre across multiple branches, so they are using other orgs they run like code pink to do the promotion and optics of the flotilla

the flotilla, much like the PSL and the rest of these astroturfing organizations like Veterans for Peace or Code Pink are funded primarily by this billionaire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Roy_Singham

I would be highly suspect of any content creator or activist who joins the flotilla. The PSL is one of the biggest obstacles for a revolutionary American left to overcome.
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>>2754767

I wonder how many of these people realize the billionaires funding this have funded multitudes of liberal activist NGOs aligned with the DNC, they're so clearly all intelligence backed, counter insurgency'd up organizations. The PSL is literally a rebranding of the liberal NGO, with roots in the ANSWER COLIATIONs methodology.

From a realistic perspective, having a grassroots movement of working-class people in America arrive at the conclusion of socialism is simply not a possibility. The American people are too reactionary and too imperialist. It's simple. The average American supports these wars and supports the bloodletting of children in the global South. Ergo, only a secretive, tightly controlled vanguard party, which is funded from without, i.e. not by those same imperialists, can truly bring about revolution. The American people really don't have much of a reason or to care about revolution, nor would they support it. So we have to go through other means. Or at least that's the logic I'm assuming that the PSL supporters believe in.

>>2747991
>they aren't using the PSL to push the flotilla because everyone with half a brain knows by now that the PSL has a history of sexually assaulting cadre
As former PSL, I think you're missing the mark. Those sexual misconduct allegations are 100% true for the record, and the organization is rife with male chauvinism. That being said, that's not why PSL is laying low about their involvement. Internally PSL couldn't care less about the allegations against them. Rather, PSL follows standard Marcyist (quasi-trotskyist) practice in believing that elevating the consciousness of the masses is secondary to "doing something". This means essentially mirroring (and oftentimes taking part in) the liberal nonprofit industrial complex, but it's super duper different because they sometimes admit some of their politics upfront. If you want an example of this in their public writings, look at their book "Socialist Reconstruction", which actively minimizes the question of revolution in favor of openly idealist fanfiction depicting a "United Socialist States of America". It hardly needs to be said that this is tailism and opportunism. It reflects a basic fear of the masses and their propensity to reject Revolutionary Communist politics in the US, and its practical demands. Rather than grapple with why people (particularly whites) in the US embrace fascism and social-fascism over Communism, they prefer to minimize politics in favor of empty "militancy" and economism. Again, quasi-trotskyism.
>I would be highly suspect of any content creator or activist who joins the flotilla.
I don't think it's worth making much of a fuss over if I'm being honest. The flotilla is ultimately a performative gesture of "doing something". I think PSL should be critiqued for minimizing the need for revolution as they campaign to defend a country they consider socialist, a patently absurd practice but not one that's anything new for them, and "content creators" deserve the wall regardless of their involvement with PSL anyways. Nothing about the flotilla or joining it is actually producing any long term changes to how Revolutionary Communists should relate to revisionist and liberal forces in the US. So like, don't waste your breath. Focus on the ongoing struggles that actually matter.
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>>2754758
I've thought the Singham story is the biggest nothingburger. Like there's some rich guy giving you money? My attitude is like meh take the money, what criticism can you make of that which isn't moralistic. What makes me feel more pessimistic, however, is seeing someone like Chris Smalls (in your example) go from being this popular union organizer who came out of nowhere and seemed different and new to becoming another "media leftist" quasi-celebrity. Like there's no workers' political organization as much as a media presence substituting for one and the activism which builds around that skews towards the symbolic and performative side because that's good for media, and maybe that is related to the money going into the media side of things.



 

A curious pathology has taken root among the self‑styled Marxist‑Leninists of the American academy and the few remaining party formations they cling to; an unspoken, almost devotional posture of non‑critique toward the police. They will dissect the labor movements of ancient history, compose vague treatises on fighting imperialism, and issue proclamations on the dictatorship of the proletariat, but when the question of the cop on the corner, the officer who beats strikers, the carceral apparatus that swallows entire Black and brown communities arises, the real centers of class struggle in the modern era, their mouths go dry. They offer, at most, a limp gesture toward “defunding” diluted into a proposal for better training, no better than liberals. Abolition? That's Anarchist! No, communists want to attack and dismantle the bourgeois state, not capture it. You are RED LIBERALS. You do not mobilize against police unions. They do not celebrate prison breaks, or work with rioting prisoners on work stoppages. They do not treat the badge as the enemy it is.

Why this silence? Because, they will confess in private, the American working class is “pro‑police.” To critique the police openly, they whisper, is to alienate the very constituency they claim to represent. So they hold their tongues. They perform a politics of comfort, moderating revolutionary impulse into managerial reform, ensuring that no blue line is crossed too harshly lest they upset the fragile sensibilities of a working class they have never actually organized. This is not Marxism at all, so their constant accusative speculation of Anarchism directed upon real Marxists is hilarious. It is the posture of a class fraction so distant from struggle that it mistakes its own cowardice for strategic patience.

The material reality is stark, there is no socialist state to defend, no proletarian dictatorship to uphold. There is only the bourgeois state, its courts, its jails, its concepts of police and justice, its armies of occupation in every city of the globe. To be a “statist” under such conditions is to align oneself with the repressive apparatus of capital. Yet these self‑proclaimed Leninists drape themselves in the language of state power while refusing to name the enemy that wears the uniform. They have made their peace with the cop because the cop is the ultimate guarantor of the social order they dare not disrupt. They call anarchists naive for recognizing the state as enemy, for uPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2754428
no they wouldn't

>>2754138
>we must get rid of ML parties and just be idiotic smashie wreckers revolution hurrdurr
OK anarshit libglowtard

>>2754364
this

>>2754495
>>we must get rid of ML parties and just be idiotic smashie wreckers revolution hurrdurr

Here we go. See, these people are incapable of actual discussion. The moment they are challenged with something that breaks down their perspective, they silence people within their own parties or simply accuse them of "anarchism" or "lumpen behavior." Yet if we look deeply into their own beliefs and their own praxis, it usually amounts to little more than "The workers don't want a revolution against bourgeois American society, therefore our task is to integrate within it and make it better serve the working class." Also, you do realize anarchists flooded the ranks of the communist parties of the world when they were revolutionary, right? The main reason these parties get critiqued right now is not ideological split; it is that they are counter‑revolutionary, revisionist, and essentially an NGO format with a party aesthetic.


https://www.marxists-malta.org/history/erol/periodicals/class-struggle-us/cp-black-workers.htm

>>During these years, communists were at the center of the Black movement. But at the same time, this period saw a revisionist clique destroy the Communist Party, U.S.A., transforming its remnants into the counter‑revolutionary organization it is today.


>>The Party, however, had emerged from the war disabled by the revisionist politics of the Browder leadership. It was a politics of surrender to capital on all fronts, which left behind it a movement of revolutionaries without fighting organizations


https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0896920517749804

>>2754699
MLibs will never accept that anarchists, with all their faults and retardation that everyone here is aware of, were a necessary step in the building of the revolutionary movement during its origins in 19th century, even if they had to be overcome at some point, and they will have to play a similar role if an international revolutionary movement is to be born again

>>2754718

That's because most MLs suffer from the same disease as anarchists. Idealism. Many MLs throw the word dialectical materialism around, but are using it as a weapon for dominance in argument, or a linear one size fits all analysis, rather than a methodology for study.



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What if all the founding fathers were anti-social degenerates who reveled in their sin and debauchery with pride and incentivize the Puritans and other Christian denominations to leave the fucking country because they want to force their religious values on other people instead of living in an egoist state

Max Weber uses the example of Franklin as an archetype of the protestant ethic in his writings, seeing how secular piety turns to capital accumulation through delayed gratification. If everyone was like Franklin, there would be no culture, since everyone would be obsessed with money.

Bullshit Benjamin Franklin loved going to the hellfire club people just want to frame him from a Christian worldview because they want to act like everyone has a Christian morality and a culture is just a group of people with a common group of beliefs and community it can be anything

>>2754638
if all the founding fathers were like franklin, 1776 would have failed. you need more than just nerds who fly kites. his contributions to science and political economy were remarkable, but you need people like washington and lafayette to win the war and craft the state.

that is the serious answer to your question. I will let the rest of the thread be about the obvious fact that the founding fathers were in fact all hypocrites, rapists, racists, slave owners, etc. we all know that already.



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>>2754413
drink less

I've noticed Hezbollah are not putting out nearly as much video as previous clashes. I wonder if that's some operational change for some reason, maybe security reasons?

>>2754423
has the full scale israeli invasion begun yet? Last I saw they had isolated hezbollah territory by destroying the bridges and were amassing at the border.


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The law of value says that a society with money is bogreosie therefore not socialism. Consequently, the USSR was not socialist.
Why do ML(oosers) say the opposite ? Is it because they haven't read Marx ?
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>>2752791
le laws of dialectics!
(non-being = being) -> becoming!
>actually BECOMING socialism

>>2752791
>shoots up fent
<lay off man I’m trying to get sober, I haven’t even had a drink in a week

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>>2752510

LMAO. Its an Ikki Kita quote, the ultra responding can't parse the satire. The Great East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere was JDPON in practice

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>>2752537
>every third worldist is just a temporarily embarrassed treatlerite, they all want to be the USA.
but anon… many third worldists already live in the USA. you're confusing third worldER with third worldIST

>socialism/communism is this specific state of affairs
theorylet detected
>the law of value also existing
you will not value aufheben without first making full use of it



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