/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

*delivers burgee*
*runs into door*

>>2892290
>fascism is when the US government does the bad shit it's always done since before ᴉuᴉlossnW and hitler were even born

if fascism is just when reactionary people do reactionary things then the entire world has always been fascist

>>2892293
I laid out a number of characteristics and particular criterias here: >>2891879
the anticommunist and reactionary part is also included in the list as it's a reply to >>2891680

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>>2892300
those are fair characteristics

>>2891977
Too many VPN exits are blocked here fr

>>2892149
> or if the Midwest could keep out all the refugees who are gonna flee the sunbelt when all the water evaporates.
so you admit that all this migration is caused by climate change and imperialism and that anti immigration is really about locking people into kill zones and not about protecting muh imperial core workers from muh job stealers. fucking finally

>>2892264
What?

>>2892321
saying USSR "joined the World War on the side of Western imperialists" is just really telling on yourself. as if operation barbarossa wasn't a genocidal campaign against the USSR that necessitated self defense.

>>2891990
What do you have against DSA? You need to be banned.

>>2892494
I'm ANPRIM, but my stance on immigration is that freedom of movement is a human right and there should be no borders. However, the current waves of immigration are demonstrably linked to Israel depopulating the Middle East. First in 2023, Hamas invaded Israel and slayed 1,200 people, injuring over 3,000 others and taking over 250 hostages. Then Israel retaliated with Operation Swords of Iron War and killed or maimed hundreds of thousands of people, and thousands of fighters, killed 1,000 more in expanded West Bank settlements, flattened all of Gaza in the process, displacing and starving millions, taking more than 12,000 prisoner. Simultaneously, this has also been the deadliest war for Israel in 50 years since the 1973 Yom Kippur War, w/ 400 IDF deaths and over 2,000 injured. Then the Houthis retaliated, hijacking an Israeli cargo ship in response to the Gaza genocide, taking 25 hostages (who were later released). Then Louay Alnaji kills Paul Kessler at a pro-Israel rally, striking him in the face with a microphone, causing him to hit his head.

In 2024, 3 US soldiers were killed in a Houthi drone strike in Jordan. Then 2 US Navy SEALs drowned in the Arabian Sea off the coast of Somalia while en route to seize Iranian supplies going to the Houthis in North Yemen. Then Hezbollah drone striked the house of Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu, causing minor damage. He was absent at the time of the attack. Then Thomas Crooks shoots Donald Trump in the head, nicking his right ear, before opening fire on the audience, killing one audience member, injuring 2 others before being eliminated by a Secret Service sniper. Then Aaron Bushnell self-immolates in Washington, D.C. in protest against the state-sanctioned genocide in Gaza. Then Bashar Al-Assad was sent fleeing to Russia after coalition forces took over Syria under the new leadership of Ahmed Al-Sharaa.

In 2025, the 12-day war happens. Israel attacks Iran, killing 1,000 people (including Mohammad Bagheri, Gholam Ali Rashid, Hossein Salami and Amir Ali Hajizadeh), injuring 5,000 others (including Masoud Pezeshkian). Iran responds with drone strikes and ballistic missiles, killing 33 people, injuring 3,000 others. The US dropped a B2 bomb on the Fordow nuclear power plant. Then Mohamed Sabry Soliman attacks a pro-Israel rally in Boulder, Colorado, killing 82-year-old Karen Diamond, injurPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

yankee right zing propaganda loop!

post-modern white nationalists will setup breeding stations with bestest/brightest mulatto/negroid emulatoids!

homo-cyber-sapiens will arise … hybrid vigor & techno fetish will give the super-class all excuse "we gave you a chance" … "we gave you all the sigma tools"

>>2860175
>but actual fascists like patriot front or proud boys.
You are more likely to have a Bonapartist/Putinist takeover before you see the patriot front ever getting power in the US

Imma be honest, yeah, communism as we know it has been reduced to an aestethic. Nobody really cares anymore about eating the rich. Very few countries have independent bankies systems, and those that do are unlikely to survive 20 more years. The rise of the DSA is just more stupid fucking idpol ragebait, there's no need for actual oomph, actual rioting like we saw in 2020, when you can just put on a keffiyeh, walk up to cop, and farm views as they punch you into the ground. It brings the same value as larping as a nazi or a satanist. It's fucking madness

>>2886079
Bonapartism is completely alien to the US and its political culture

Prediction (pessimistic): The status quo will continue for a long time. Now that's some real doomerism. No relief for you!

Third person dies at New Jersey immigration detention center
A nurse responded when Chajón-Raxón experienced a medical emergency and “witnessed Chajón-Raxón experiencing seizure-like activity”, according to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Medical personnel were called, and he was transported to a hospital, the DHS said in a statement shared with the Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/13/immigrant-dies-delaney-hall-new-jersey

ACLU Says New Flock Camera Guardrails Nothing But a ‘Thinly Veiled PR Attempt’
Flock on Thursday unveiled new guardrails for its law enforcement customers, including a reduction in default license plate data retention from 30 days to seven, mandatory auditing tools designed to flag suspicious searches, and requirements that officers associate searches with case numbers.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/aclu-flock-guardrails

‘Unprecedented, dangerous territory’: US north-west reckons with a summer of historic wildfires
More than 2.9m acres (1.1m hectares) have already burned across Washington and Oregon this year, as extreme conditions fuel fast-moving fires that have draped the region in toxic plumes for weeks on end. Oregon has already logged more burned acreage this year than any in recorded history. Washington, meanwhile, is in the midst of its most destructive fire season.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/10/us-wildfires-pacific-north-west

‘Outrageous’: Trump Officials Investigated Left-Wing Groups After Alex Pretti Killing in Minneapolis
As The New York Times reported, days after Pretti was killed in the street as he tried to help a woman who had been violently pushed by the agents, the DHS office in St. Paul opened an investigation into groups including the climate-focused Sunrise Movement, major labor groups like the AFL-CIO and the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), the Democratic Socialists of America, and a collective called Direct Action Minnesota Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Short remark on IHL Day
On the occasion of IHL Day yesterday, the Party and the New People’s Army reaffirm its commitment to uphold the National Democratic Front of the Philippine’s “Declaration of Adherence to International Humanitarian Law” (August 15, 1991) in waging revolutionary armed struggle to fight for national liberation from US imperialism and end the oppressive and exploitative rule of the puppet ruling classes.
https://philippinerevolution.nu/statements/short-remark-on-ihl-day/

(TrueAnon)Episode 559: Deadpool
Gambling week rolls on as we talk about the future of prediction markets, pump.fun bounty calls, insider trading, and more.
https://www.patreon.com/TrueAnonPod/posts/unlocked-episode-166577259

July 27, 2023: Idiots, No Longer Useful by Boris Kagarlitsky
“They can, but we can’t.” We had to repeat this for many months, when left-wing and liberal oppositionists were detained and sent to trial for the mere word “war” uttered in connection with military operations on the territory of Ukraine, while Igor Strelkov and his associates criticized words of the military leadership, complained about defeats at the front, and talked openly about the terrible state of affairs in military units. Of course, they got away with it because they did not question the very need for military action. At first, Putin was not called by name and was not directly scolded. The government was reproached only for not being severe enough. With regard to Ukraine, they strictly adhered to the opinion that a country with such a name should not exist. But everything has changed. On July 21 at 11:30 they came for Strelkov, FSB officers detaining the founder of the Angry Patriots Club. Earlier, charges were brought against retired colonel Vladimir Kvachkov, another well-known member of the Club. He is to be punished for discrediting the Russian army. Angry Patriots can justly be accused of aggressiveness and bloodthirstiness (and against the background of his comrades-in-arms, Strelkov is even one of the most moderate). Yet their main problem is not with their views per se, but in their monstrous political naivety and economicPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2891624
China is multiple times bigger than the usa both in population and density, and they're filled with cctvs, finding videos of random accident is stupid easy, pretty much every country with more than 10 million has one murder/kidnapping every day if you look at the entire population.

>>2855296
Recently in Australia Chinese shopkeeper worked hard.
Unemployed youths (a statistical metrix caused by Chinese 'working hard') bash him and accidentally kill him.

>>2891630
There is a sad dark irony of Chinese being accidentally killed by reactionists especially when most Chinese that actually cause problems are the selfish ones, not the heroic ones.

>>2855385
>Drugs are good and necessary for the productive forces needed to build communism. Do you think people can do the 12-14 hour without cocaine or meth?
>>2858156
>8 hour workday would've been practically impossible for people to stomach without coffee

Clocks + Indoor Workplaces + Stimulants = Dehumanized animatronic workers with disrupted circadian rhythms

>>2891277
Hasn't this been attempted before?

>>2891363
China and Cuba have been quietly expanding their coop sectors if Richard Wolff is to be believed

Anyways, half of this question should be answered with a history book in hand, but I dont have that data. But regardless, iirc there are many academic studies that show cooperatives can be more competitive than regular firms. In principle it makes sense, since a pyramidal system with some random dude at the top and different layers of PMC at the bottom seems less rational than an actual board of administrators that can check and balance each other and which are subject to change in case of failure.

Yes but the moment it is actually building up the state will put down it's boot on your neck.

We're allowed some coops to use as proof that there is some economic liberty present, the moment it means anything else it's bonebreaking time

>>2891048
Market competition itself creates winners and losers; the logic of debt and profit inevitably recreates capitalist conditions. The Yugoslav experience demonstrates that this leads to conflict between cooperative managers and the workers within those cooperatives—who may blackmail the rest of society by manipulating prices and pressuring the state to relax regulations, thereby facilitating exploitative dynamics that restore typical capitalist relations. Furthermore, there is the conflict involving the many unemployed and indebted workers from failed cooperatives who require constant state intervention. Another issue is the rise of nationalist opportunists who exploit the individualism fostered by competing cooperatives to deceive the masses. A crisis is inevitable; just as the Proudhonists in the Paris Commune—through the very process of practice—transformed into Marxists and spontaneously abolished the cooperative market, a similar shift toward economic planning occurred within the CNT-FAI in Catalonia. This proves that there is no stable state of competing cooperatives; such a situation inevitably generates conflict that leads either to the restoration of typical private capitalist relations or to the nationalization and coordination of these cooperatives under an economic plan designed to meet the population's needs and ensure remuneration based on labor, free from competition.

>>2891277
You are overlooking the fact that bank nationalization is a crucial requirement for a successful communist revolution, according to the critiques Marx leveled at the Paris Commune and all revolutions that established the dictatorship of the proletariat. If a country possesses the means of production—moving beyond backward peasant farming—then the nationalization and socialization of all industries, natural resources, energy, transport, communication, land, housing, healthcare, education, childcare, pensions, technology, and food supplies become necessary; or, at the very least, it is essential to end competition among cooperatives in sectors that cannot yet be fully socialized due to technological limitations or isolation.

>>2890648
>irridescent langley infiltraitor
we should support are troops even if they're genocidal babykillers with nazi, klan, and punisher tattoos. you need to turn kkk members so avoid telling the truth to protect their feelings.

>sensible communist
<your government doesn't care about you GI, they sent you into the jungle to die. turn your weapon on your real enemy GI. there is nothing waiting for you at home but addiction and pain.

>>2890615
> telling them that they're being fucked over by porky and urging them turn on their leadership for their own sake. This is just mocking them and reveling in their suffering.
it was mocking them and urging them to be less mockworthy by turning on their masters.

>>2890666
>your government doesn't care about you GI, they sent you into the jungle to die. turn your weapon on your real enemy GI. there is nothing waiting for you at home but addiction and pain.
omg why are you mocking them and reveling in their suffering :(:(:(

>>2890628
>What even is this reformist dogshit?
huh?

>>2890585
>have never drawn that distinction either during or after WW1
Because the professionalization of the army wasn't as widespread. And it makes a difference whether the Estonian army consists of 3k volunteers ready to kill pillage and rape Russians or out of 30k mobiks that just want to go back to their home and grill. The 3k are never going to become communists. Out of the 30k, a good chunk might. See the difference? Different material conditions means also different theory you dumb bookish nerd. Muh comintern. Get a fucking grip, the thing doesn't exist for almost a 100 years a this point.