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Why does it seem like most of the heavy handed police repression and operations in USA that use lethality have been against anarchists? like im talking mass raids in operations, mass arrest sweeps, targeted killings, why did they stop doing that with the more marxist groups like they did in the 80s back and suddenly just seem hyper focused on anarchist. like the cointrlpero of the usa government against them now seems way more harsh than on other lefty groups. anarchists back then basically got to fuck around in communes and get surveilled but not actively destroyed. now fast forward and it's like the opposite. after 9/11 you start seeing way more entrapment cases against anarchists than actual marxist groups, the green scare after was straight up hunting anarchists with cases facing decades, murders by cops, multi-jurisdiction tactical raids on the same day across multiple states, RICOS, and now trump signs a bill naming "anarchist jurisdictions" specifically as the highest lvls of "terror" but the dems been doing the same shit just quieter with biden's and obamas doj still prosecuting 2020 protestors n anarchist being killed by police under biden. meanwhile ml groups mostly just host panels at universities and don't get their doors kicked in at all, they dont have cops visibly come to show force to intimidate them at meetings even but they do all this for anarchist. like why did the state stop caring about leninists who actually wanna seize state power and start obsessing over black blocs who just wanna smash windows. what changed
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>>2742803
>the cointelpro of the usa government against them now seems way more harsh than on other lefty group
https://theintercept.com/2026/04/14/facebook-instagram-antifa-censor/
>If “antifa” is mentioned in the context of “references to historical or recent incidents of violence” — a category so sprawling that it includes “historic wars” and “battles” — that post will also be penalized. Should Meta apply this rule as written, the company could, for instance, restrict posts comparing the antifascist nature of World War II to the contemporary antifa movement.
>Potential penalties for violating Community Standards range from a full account ban to comments being hidden or suppressed.
>The policy change follows years of Meta and its chief executive Mark Zuckerberg’s pivot of political convenience toward President Donald Trump and his base. Following Trump’s second electoral victory, Meta quickly changed its speech rules to allow for anti-transgender slurs and dehumanization of immigrants
Mr Zucc, sir, you do realize that your AI Epstein regime denying the possibility of leftist critiques will simply transform alienated workers into vulgar fascists who say 'ZOG', right?

and also
https://theintercept.com/2025/11/23/prairieland-ice-antifa-zines-criminalize-protest-journalism/

https://theintercept.com/2026/03/12/antifa-ice-protest-texas-trial-terrorism/

>>2790975
You're just chronically online lol, most anarchists are focused on book clubs and shit

>>2791030
Nah, I’ve met a few anarchists at protests. Nice enough people, definitely see them out there doing stuff.

Cause of the peculiarities of where I work and some friends/family I tend to meet a few through the Punk scene (not a Punk fan myself) and we’d talk about politics and socialism for a bit. A few beat the shit out of skinheads, was fun to hear about it.

cuz marxists are wannabe bureaucrats

>>2791139
They’re hitting harder already, I believe a bunch of people got arrested as “antifa” cause they all wore black hoodies and one shot at cops. Like even their relatives were considered part of a conspiracy for holding some zines at their house.

My disputes with anarchists is mostly theoretical. Personally I think more power to em.



 

Given that this site is primarily composed of marxists(-leninists), what are self-criticism that you have about Marx's works ?

Personally, my biggest problem with marxism is dialectical and historical materialism. Marx himself didn't seem to care all that much after his Theses on Feuerbach but the concept, revived during the IInd International, now has an almost central place in any discussion about Marxism.

My biggest issue with it would be that it is overly general. Most philosophers and scientists already accept the idea that the world is in motion and perpetually changing. The idea that everything is in a situation of interdependence and that only the understanding of a concept in its overarching totality can bring about correct knowledge appears to be already mostly accepted. Positing these through "laws" as Engels puts it in his Anti-Duhring is imo simply creating meaningless and vacuous terms. Apart from making deontological conduct claims to how we should avoid making hagiographies and seek to have a global understanding of a phenomenon prior to assessing claims about it is almost tautological in regards to today's scientific approach and conduct.
I think a big issue as to why it became popular is simply that it's somewhat easy to understand compared to marxian economics, and that it avoids one having to make normative claims. It made sense in the early 20th century to point these out, as materialism was still a relatively "modern" paradigm, but nowadays it seems redundant.

Thoughts ?
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>>2790662
Yeah that's kinda true. But there's a lot of overlap with both concepts which makes it a bit dependent on its overarching structure

>>2790742
On the Frankfurt School, for sure its literal point was to just try and 'ascend' ideology and move to some weird 'post-ideology' phase, Its whole output was basically that alll ideology is bad. In practice and praxis it just means all ideology but the ruling hegemony is bad. Its a pro-status quo ideology for the most part.

>>2790645
>Anon these are literally offshoot of marxism… The frankfurt school's entire epistemology is dialectical.
Claiming the Frankfurt School and post-modernism are just "offshoots" of Marxism is a massive reach that ignores why they are fundamentally antithetical to the materialist core. The Frankfurt School shifted the focus from the material base and the proletariat to cultural superstructure and "critical theory." While they used a form of dialectics, they largely abandoned the "materialism" part of the equation. Calling post-modernism an offshoot is even more illiterate. Post-modernism is defined by the rejection of "grand narratives," and Marxism is the primary target of that rejection. You are conflating a departure from a theory with an expansion of it.

>Historical materialism is literally the idea that history follows a dialectical pattern : immanent contradictions create endogenous change, which itself only reflects the material characteristic of the world.

You’re still collapsing distinct categories to make your "intellectually vacuous" point work. Historical materialism is a specific methodology for understanding human history through the development of productive forces and class struggle. Dialectical materialism is a broader metaphysical framework regarding the nature of reality and matter itself. You keep treating them as interchangeable because they are related, which is exactly why your critique lacks any precision. You're stripping the definitions away and then complaining that the terms are too broad.

>lol so I criticize dialectical materialism and your first reflex is to say "but other marxists have criticized it too!!!" ?

The point of bringing up Lukács and the internal critiques of Kautsky isn't a "reflex" to dodge your point. It's a direct rebuttal to your claim that these concepts are "dogmatic" or "sacralized." If there has been a century-long tradition of Marxists debating and rejecting the exact "vacuity" you’re complaining about, then your characterization of Marxism as a monolithic, unthinking dogma doesn't hold up. You’re attacking a version of the theory that was largely discarded by serious theorists decades ago and pretending you’ve discovered a fatal flaw.

>Any histori
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0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All I have managed to do is make myself sad. I am starting to suspect Karl Marx fucked me over personally with his socio-economic theory. It has, however, made me into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, I now build a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.

The emphasis on the proletariat as the revolutionary base when no other bottom and working class has been revolutionary ever outside of Haiti. Ancient Slavery was overthrown by Landlords and not slaves, Feudalism and Orientalism by the Bourgeois and not peasants. The issue is that the petit bourgeois and the managers have even worse ideas for government than the current haute bourgeois who want to liquidate the whole system and exit the planet.



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guys, i think i have seen the light

i think i might be becoming a commie
i think i finally get it.

My whole life i have been moving like a schizo, from ideology to ideology, left and right, but i think i might get it now

its not left vs right, its worker vs owner
its not changing minds, its changing material conditions
its not culture war, its class war

leftists play in symbolism, communists take action.

I have no idea what to do with this new found knowledge
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>>2789675
>there's nothing wrong with appealing to the sensibilities of the majority.
tailing a reactionary majority is the opportunist strategy of a reformist bourgeois party. the rest of your post is just equivocating around this point to dress it up nice

>>2790454
>The people
>>2790530
>people have decided that they dont want
muh people this
muh people that
bourgeois interclass project
socialism is a class dictatorship of the proletariat, not the wider "people" which includes the lumpenproletariat, the petty bourgeoisie, and the bourgeoisie. Bourgeois opportunism tries to create a false unity among "the people"

>>2790565
non-proletarians aren't people

>>2790564
This is such bullshit, too, because they're just ASSUMING the proles (or "people") are reactionary. Like how do you know that?

>>2789580
that's a trad buddhist bit he lifted from the Chan (Zen) tradition, it once meant that reading can get in the way of esoteric knowledge. Here I think it was just a pseudopragmatic thing he said in his late late years that I don't put much stock into.



 

https://www.biometricupdate.com/202604/vietnam-mandates-face-biometrics-for-mobile-device-registration

but thats ok, because its *checks notes* LE RED FLAG AND HAMMER AND SICKLE COUNTRY!!
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Only thing I am scared about is that under young socialism heavy anti-privacy measures are implanted to combat counterrevolutionaries but they aren't removed in a higher stage of socialism or communism

Vietnam is to China what Kosovo is to Yugoslavia.
ho chi minh was a social imperialist supported by the CIA for being more Nationalist than Communist.
They also unironically prefer Americans to Chinese, this is what the fuck you are dealing with here. They are the right wing deviation that China gets accused of being(Rule 11 - low-quality bait)

>>2790568
>At first, patriotism, not yet communism, led me to have confidence in Lenin, in the Third International. Step by step, along the struggle, by studying Marxism-Leninism parallel with participation in practical activities, I gradually came upon the fact that only socialism and communism can liberate the oppressed nations and the working people throughout the world from slavery.
You should be banned for trying to push pic in current day, honestly.

>>2790568
>ho chi minh was a social imperialist supported by the CIA for being more Nationalist than Communist
That must be why the Americans and Chinese were on the same side against Vietnam and the Warsaw Pact during the Cambodian war.

I'm uncertain of what your point is, that getting ID'd to use a phone now is unique to Vietnam?



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The Ku Klux Klan, the phobic unions of the Grand South, will consequentially work on the same logic.

Instead of textbook studies determining what could be done, the determination is on test phase studies; in medicine, engineering, and the military.

Hence there is no testing phase, merely a live stage test; a learning facility.

Otherwise, the system would collapse; the poorly educated of the wealthy, unable to broker deals, deal with the poor; the information already proven in studies of industry and grammar, given to sabotage.

Otherwise, the incarceration of police and the death at own fear, of any colour or origin, having been promentory.

Therefore, the constant and permanent end to the economy.

Hi Anon, is this text taken from some book? I'm not sure what it means.

>>2758698
It's just a schizo and/or markov chain spammer.

https://eji.org/news/virginia-ends-tax-exemptions-for-confederate-groups/

Some of these hate groups are still considered tax-exempt in the US.

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>>2757243
If you actually think the Klan still exists you are
>under 30
>don't know what the Klan actually was
>have been psyopped against your own local proletariat, are also probably a localized self-hating southerner
>just join the fucking football team bro and stop watching anime and thank me later
>are just kind of generally retarded
Either way, stop wasting everyone's time with this shit.
>>2789719
Civil War heritage orgs in the US have been fighting tooth-and-nail to distance themselves from these people for over fifty years. Go touch fucking grass and stop watching atun-shei videos.

>>2790362
>Civil War heritage orgs
Reactionary thought.

"Support our slave project".

Nah.



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why are so many scientists with weird glowie connections getting whacked ? is it aliens? is it some government protocol to tackle potential braindrain/leaks or is it some other more mundane bullshit?

It's da j00z

>>2790089
Probably just the federales wrapping up loose ends.



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>>2789654
>>2789696
Is there a kiwifarms on milei? He is the ultimate lawlcow whenever he appears.

>>2790129
Imagine a MILF version of him.

>>2788894
it's quints, newfriend

>>2789856
Western Europe is pretty fucked. In less they turn the E.U into an actual centralized state and forms a somewhat stable economic and militarily capable bloc in the next 5 years. NATO is going to implod no matter what and at this point it's a question of if the euros are going to nut up or America is going to go schizo enough to invade turkey on behalf of israel or some other bonkers scheme that brings article 5 into question like invading greenland. We still 2 years of this trump term too hypothetical. 10 months till the midterms, the amount of damage he's achieved in the past 3 months is unprecedented. The world's being realign and Russia and china will come out on top, Iran emerges as a 4th power and the U.S either has a revolution or devolves into a shitty decaying fascist belligerent empire. Basically how Russia and North Korea are portrayed as.

>>2790085
>VVITCH
>wayes
>with
>shewing
>discouery
>trve
>erroneous

What the fuck is the rule here



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the most recent Epstein file drop potentially implicating the creation of /pol/ with moot meeting with Epstein feels like it needs to have its own thread. it's pretty much an accepted fact at this point that Epstein played a key role in what seems to be a massive secret human trafficking ring that exists as a form of Mutually Assured Destruction to for the elites to maintain power, but what is currently a lesser-known and recent revelation is that circumstantial evidence indicating that the entire formation of the far-right was an astroturfing psyop by pedophile billionaires and the intelligence community.

in particular, this thread >>>/lgbt/3094 links even more damning evidence that the astroturfing of far-right politics has been intentionally perpetrated as a psyop to ensure that the Molochian demons in power have access to as many children to rape as possible. pedocon theory is not a meme at this point or even merely an own on the hypocrisy of the far-right; it arguably is a significant factor behind the existence of the far-right today.

https://dump.li/a/29c72d#x

https://archive.org/details/dark-web-playground-child-abuse-forum-leak-censored-posted-endchan-03.18.2025

while it's bordering on LARP to act like anything serious happens on this site, broadly speaking "the left" and especially leftists familiar with imageboard culture & history should be investigating and agitating more specifically on this matter. the purpose of this thread is to consolidate information on this and to crowdsource more investigative work in the Epstein files specifically on the issue of astroturfing the creation of the alt-right. if you are involved in any real life organizing of any kind you should be spreading this information far and wide for agitprop purposes.

the masses needs to know that there is no civil debate to be had with the right, nor is there even any particularly sophisticated leap in theory and critique one needs to make; the far-right is simply ontologically evil and we should be agitating on them all being controlled by human traffickers as hard as possible.
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>>2731783

turns out jews did make /pol/

>>2742822
epstein isnt every jew

>>2676365
>glowops like pizzagate
Pizzagate wasn't made by glowies, 4chuds thought that up on their own after russian hackers leaked podesta's emails. However, i cannot deny how weird the emails sound on occasion.

>rightists want child rape to be hidden
>leftists want child rape to be open, legal, and celebrated

>>2790139
Open so we can punish the bourgeousie and other degenerates



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What does /leftypol/ think of cynical realism? It seems to be an artistic movement in China, and many of the name associated with it live there (in the mainland), but when I asked deepseek about it, it's censorship got triggered and it refuses to give me more information about it.
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>>2752585
Aside from the skulls in OP and the 4th pic here, I'm struggling to see where the "cynical" part comes in play here. This seems quite whimsical actually. Reminds me of gnome hyperborea.

>>2752578

Anything I don't like is "reactionary" or "petite-bourgeois".

Not something I'd hang up in my living room….

>>2748554
Assuming you're not just asshurt about leftcoms , if you want to help leftcoms (aka communists) then you can start by abandoning your anti-communism



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Invitation to
29th Farkha Festival in Palestine 2026 –
Fighting against Genocide and Apartheid
Summer 2026 in Farkha/ West Bank, Palestine

March 13, 2026

Dear Comrades and Friends,
the Festival Committee, the Youth of the Palestinian People Party (former Palestinian Communist Party), and Albad Cultural Center have decided that despite, or rather because of, the ongoing genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestine, a Farkha Festival will take place this year. Because resistance means life.

We invite you to participate in one week of volunteer work, political discussions and workshops about the Palestinian struggles towards liberation and justice and the right of self determination, struggles of Palestinian women, left perspectives and cultural activities in the village of Farkha in Palestine.

The 29th edition of the Farkha Festival will be held in August 2026. Before the festival starts we will organize a three day long political tour to places and regions of resistance in Palestine to learn more about concrete local struggles directly from political activists and organizations on the ground, in order to know more how to continue the internationalist struggle.
Farkha Festival is rooted in and inspired by the work of the communist leader Tawfeeq Zayyad, a national poet and politician who was elected mayor of Nazareth in 1973. Tawfeeq played a key role in pressuring the occupation government to end its repression towards Palestinians – those who remained in their homes after the Nakba „1948 war„ and now live inside Israel. Because Tawfeeq tried to bring about change from within, he was constantly threatened by the occupying forces, his projects for the community of Nazareth were rejected, and his funding was significantly cut. Nevertheless, he managed to gather thousands of people every year to organize volunteer festivals in Nazareth and, with the help of the volunteers’ labor, to implement the Nazareth municipality’s plans without much state funding.

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Bump in the name of Falesteen.

You call yourself fucking internationalists just a bunch of larpers who want to wear palestine as a skin to make yourselves feel good.

bump

>>2742134
Twerk for palestine type event
combucha and cha-cha with tumblr islamoqueer liberals

the real struggle against genocide is the struggle for the extermination of everyone religious

>>2776873
Why do you hate Palestinian Communists?



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