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>friends with Clinton’s in the 80s
>stated he liked Gadaffi
>democrat until recent times
>smart
>suddenly RW and retarded
>cartoonishly evil to the point of US collapse
Is trump the greatest accelerationist in American history?

>>2812711
You could have just made a post in USApol for this.

JDPON Don

>>2812711
I don't think so, man. He just fucked up his country in like a year, so the democrats will rule for the next like 8 years

>>2812711
>Is trump america’s hero?
No he's not.
He is America's curse.
>friends with Clinton’s in the 80s
Clinton is also bad you dumbass
>stated he liked Gadaffi
He supported the Invasion but changed his mind after it was unpopular and just so he could use it against Hillary Clinton, if he sincerely believed it was bad then he wouldn't be doing the same type of regime change now.
>democrat until recent times
Democrats also suck
>smart
no he's not he is a fucking dumbass
>suddenly RW and retarded
He always was but I know what you are trying to say
>cartoonishly evil to the point of US collapse
Yeah he is speeding up the collapse of the US empire but he does not have good intentions so you should not venerate him.



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>>2808533
No more oligarch controlled than the West, actually. You don't get to claim to have less corruption by legalizing it as lobbying, lol

>>2808530
>25% of brits having less than 200 punds saved
>60% of russians have some sort of savings
still means 15% more of russians compared to bongs do not have any savings at all

mean savings in bongland is 19 000 gbp which is almost exactly 1 900 000 rub. feel free to gloat when half of russians have more money saved

or at least 807 500 rub by ppp (potato purchasing parity)

19000/1.2*51


>>2804242
>>2804246
yeah totally NATO expanded 14 times but definitely doesn't want ukraine, its rich soil, and its trillions of dollars of minerals that lindsey graham keeps drooling over



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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/

How true is this and is there a conclusion leftists can draw from it? It would imply that most people are extremely docile and that a very small minority of people are mentally capable of serious criminal activity due to differences in nature and nurture. Several important questions:

>does this mean "evil" is not as widespread as we think and is instead concentrated in the hands of a minority of full time psychos?

>can this minority used for something useful like high risk revolutionary activity due to them being more comfortable with serious transgressions
>is this minority a type of übermensch that makes them psychologically stronger than the average normie?
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>>2809709
What is unc doing 💀💀💀

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>>2809399
>China is more authoritarian than the US, but less authoritarian than Afghanistan.
ahahahahahahaha hit me up when the PRC does pics related and then I'll agree

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Citing from the study:
<A total of 93,642 individuals (3.9 %) had at least one violent conviction. The distribution of convictions was highly skewed; 24,342 persistent violent offenders (1.0 % of the total population) accounted for 63.2 % of all convictions. Persistence in violence was associated with male sex (OR 2.5), personality disorder (OR 2.3), violent crime conviction before age 19 (OR 2.0), drug-related offenses (OR 1.9), nonviolent criminality (OR 1.9), substance use disorder (OR 1.9), and major mental disorder (OR 1.3). […] The majority of violent crimes are perpetrated by a small number of persistent violent offenders, typically males, characterized by early onset of violent criminality, substance abuse, personality disorders, and nonviolent criminality.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/
So its not that 1% is responsible for ALL crime, but that repeat violent offenders make up around 63% of the prison population, whioe at least 4% of the public have one case of violent offense. So then, some people are petty criminals (~4%), while lifetime criminals are a completely destructive force and total minority (1%). As far as I know, this correlates with the number of sociopaths (4%) and psychopaths (1%).

>>2812323
Apparently that Henry Earl guy passed away and was actually well liked.
https://www.kentucky.com/news/local/counties/fayette-county/article288709755.html

>>2812344
According to the article, most of his crimes were misdemeanors related to his homelessness, such as alcohol intoxication. If he was a repeat violent offender, he would definitely serve more time than 16 years in total. So, he would be in the ~35% of prison populations.



 

You will never be a real country. You have no dignity, you have no constitution, you have no control over your own economy. You're just a rebellious piece of land twisted by capitalism and the USA into a crude mockery of the chinese perfection.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back, every single country mock you. The United States are disgusted and ashamed of you, but they pretend not to. Your “allies” laugh at your economic, military and political dependence behind closed curtains.

You will never be independent. Your leader wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell himself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the national bankruptcy creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - Your pseudo-president will wear a suit, will adjust the microphone, and announce that Taiwan will be pacifically conquered by the Chinese Nation, and plunge into the cold abyss of oblivion, that being said, or else a war will start not so far away, and China will conquer the territory that has always belonged to it, in a bloody and violent way.

When that happens, they'll update your Wikipedia page and all the history books, they'll list you as a "rebellious province of China," and you will always be remembered as a shitty little revolution that only lasted a few years, but that always belonged and always will belong to China, your history, your struggle, your sweat, it's all in vain, because at the end of the day, you are part of Chinese territory.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back, you will never be a real country.

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Stay mad, So Sad!

Ay first I thought this was about Argentina. But this is amazing. Beautiful, really. 💯

>>2811691
What is the point of this thread?
go back to reddit.



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As the post said, cant think of anything theyve done for the proletarian cause except use all their power to take it down. They want to preserve commodity production and wage labour for the sake of stability. Unlike marxist leninists who actually take efforts to communism.
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>>2811975
>what Bordigists actually do
…post on reddit?

I cant speak Italian so I read only translations of his work, but I would consider his prose the best of all big marxist writers.

>>2811975
Can someone explain to me this fetish many communist splinter groups have with 100 year old technology of propaganda, like leaflets and newspapers?

>>2812021
Having presence in actually physical space is extremely important for socialist orgs. Couple dozens members concentrated in your local area gives organisation far more political push than thousands scattered across entire coutry. Also you shouldnt rely on social media presence too much, as it can be taken from you on a whim.

>>2812005
No they split over the working with a union that one group within the party didn't like



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We know workers dislike domination. And contra Lyotard, they also dislike exploitation. But might a significant number of workers actually enjoy being estranged from the objects of their labor? Or at least, might they be indifferent enough to not see alienation as a problem?

Consider that as an alienated worker, I am encouraged to be utterly unconcerned with labor conditions outside of my own workplace. Or the quantity and quality of production of commodities that I do not consume. Those are the concerns of management and the bourgeoisie. My alienation provides a perverse degree of "freedom" from society, to focus only on my individual consumption and not the conditions of my fellow workers.

Whereas in a communist society of free and equal producers, I am supposed to have an interest the labor conditions in all workplaces in a society, as each directly affects the amount of social product available for consumption. The degree of political control needed to make that happen equitably seems extremely time-consuming and limiting, and I imagine a lot of workers would be turned off by it.

Perhaps that is why most 'socialist' experiments have never really addressed alienation, and why most workers seem completely resigned to the hyper-alienated existence mediated by apps and nation-states despite everyone allegedly agreeing on how horrible it is.
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>>2811416
None of this contradicts what was written earlier.
>The life-process of society, which is based on the process of material production, does not strip off its mystical veil until it is treated as production by freely associated men, and is consciously regulated by them in accordance with a settled plan.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm

>>2811421
Deductions have to be made from everyone's comsumption credit to fund expansion of the MoP, plus public services. The size of that deduction needs to be determined politically by the working class.

>>2811519
So I’m gonna have to be on a zoom meeting with every other survivor of the civil war and we decide which sectors of workers get to bear the most tax burden to fund our public services.

>>2811613
That's how Parecon would probably do it. Presumably it could be organized better.
But would workers desire that kind of participation instead of their current alienated existence?

>>2810889
Aren't there like several type of alienations? Surely not all of them could have the same impact on everyone?



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If Bolsheviks own me how come Stalin kill em all?

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the funniest thing about "anti-revisionism" vs "revisionism" is that it is not something Marx ever mentioned, because he would never imagine himself as the static, unchanging root of a globe-spanning political project called "Marxism" with various branches like "Marxism-Leninism", "Marxism-Leninism-Mao-Zedong-Thought", "Marxism-Leninism-Maoism", "Stalinism, "Hoxhaism" and so on . Instead, Marx revised himself several times during his own life, moving from a framework rooted in alienation and species-being, to a framework rooted in (what would later be called) historical and dialectical materialism. Engels famously said that he and Marx's system was a method, not a dogma, and Kim-Il-Sung repeated this when innovating Juche, as did Deng Xiaoping when innovating "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics", make of that what you will. So if innovation is allowed and Marxism is a method, and not a dogma, why all the controversy about "revisionism?" If Marxism is meant to be applied to unique spatio-temporal conditions which outsiders, even sympathetic outsiders, usually fail to understand, why do outsiders always look for "revisionism" to condemn? Why not just accept that we are all striving not for "[insert the name of Great Men]" -ism but Communism and that our paths towards Communism are evolutionarily convergent from our different spatiotemporal standpoints rather than divergent from some imagined "anti-revisionist" standpoint? Am I being revisionist right now?

Let's look at how Marxists.org defines revisionism (you may disagree with each other on this very point):

> Revisionism


>A fundamental alteration of a theory, essentially usurping (though taking elements of) the former theory and replacing it with a new one. While the attributes of a theory are subject to change in accordance to changing historic circumstances, changing the fundamental basis of that theory is to nullify it in place of a new one.


Was Marx "Revisionist" when he revised himself? Who has the authority to decide the criteria for what is "subject to change in accordance to changing historic circumstances" and what is not?

I think the encouraging results of an even half-successful practice matter more than the purity of theory, personally.
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>>2807125
>This place has deteriorated
people are just tired of correcting the same repeat misconception hundreds of times from the same few trolls

>>2807870
the trolls outnumber the sincere anons and you know it. and being tired is no excuse to stoop to their level.

>>2808020
>being tired is no excuse to stoop to their level
thats why people just stop posting and leave

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Trump lands in China for high-stakes summit with Xi Jinping, as Iran war looms over talks
Trump was accompanied by his son Eric and daughter-in-law Lara as well as tech leaders including Elon Musk of Tesla and Jensen Huang of the chip-maker Nvidia. The US president has plans for headline-grabbing deals and previously predicted that China’s leader, Xi Jinping, would “give me a big, fat hug when I get there”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/13/trump-china-summit-xi-jinping-talks

People demand “Bato” arrest
Various organizations widely condemned the Senate’s indulgence and defense of Sen. Ronald “Bato” dela Rosa after the International Criminal Court (ICC) publicly issued an arrest warrant against him in the afternoon of May 11. The ICC confirmed the warrant for dela Rosa’s role in the Duterte regime’s “war on drugs.” ICC spokesperson Oriane Maillet stated the court issued the warrant on November 6, 2025. Authorities made the previously “secret” document “public” only this May.
https://philippinerevolution.nu/angbayan/people-demand-bato-arrest/

Philippine vice president impeached by lawmakers over suspected wealth and threats
The House, which is dominated by President Ferdinand Marcos Jr.’s allies, voted 257-25 with nine abstentions. The two impeachment complaints against Duterte, which will now be elevated to the Senate for a trial, mark an initial setback to her plan to seek the presidency in 2028. Shortly before the impeachment vote in the House, Senate President Vicente Sotto III, who had vowed to immediately put the vice president to trial, was ousted by 13 of 24 senators, including supporters of the vice president and her father, former President Rodrigo Duterte.
https://apnews.com/article/philippines-vice-president-duterte-impeachment-5d619c24ae6ef880d3c03bbcdccc1536

Ethnic Groups Are Fleeing Bangladesh’s Chittagong Hill Tracts in Search of Safety in Myanmar
Concurrent with the forced Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Senate fails to curb Trump’s war on Iran even as Republican opposition grows
The war powers resolution proposed by Jeff Merkley, a Democratic senator from Oregon, failed in a 49-50 vote. All Democrats with the exception of John Fetterman of Pennsylvania supported its advancement. Since the conflict began in February, Democrats have repeatedly offered such resolutions, without success. But for the first time on Wednesday, Alaska’s Lisa Murkowski voted in favor, joining fellow Republicans Rand Paul of Kentucky and Susan Collins of Maine. All other Republicans in attendance voted against it.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/13/trump-iran-senate-war-powers

Democrats bypass Mike Johnson on Ukraine aid with GOP help
This is the eighth time in the last three years that a discharge petition has been used by some combination of Democrats and Republicans to do an end-run around GOP leadership. Just in the 119th Congress, lawmakers have succeeded in garnering the necessary 218 signatures to force votes on a half dozen bills covering everything from proxy voting in the House to releasing the Epstein files to extending Affordable Care Act tax credits.
https://www.axios.com/2026/05/13/ukraine-aid-discharge-petition-mike-johnson-kiley
https://archive.ph/tb3IL

House Progressives Demand Pentagon Answer for Alleged Abuse in US-Ecuador Operation
Backed by anti-war and human rights organizations, 20 “deeply concerned” progressives in the US House of Representatives sent a letter to the Pentagon on Wednesday demanding answers about “reports of serious human rights violations and the bombing of what appear to have been civilian facilities during joint US-Ecuador military operations conducted in northern Ecuador.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/ecuador-us-troops

REI union workers call for boycott of co-op’s biggest annual sale
The workers recently approved a decision to call for Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Wartime Iran’s Political Transformation
For seven weeks, American and Israeli air power dominated Iranian skies. High-altitude surveillance, precision strikes on military infrastructure and apartment buildings in Tehran, and near-uncontested flight paths defined the opening phase of the conflict. Iran absorbed the blows and responded not with the guerrilla tactics of Baghdad’s roads but with long-range missiles, mass-produced drones, and a defensive posture that held the line. In the final days before the ceasefire, an F-15 and an A10-warthog were downed by optical tracking systems. Whether this was a replicable technical achievement or a fortunate anomaly remains to be seen. What was not ambiguous, however, was the fact that Iran was able to close off the Strait of Hormuz to maritime traffic. In response, global energy markets convulsed. The war had become a world event. Politics also shifted in Iran. Just a few months ago, in January, the main question there was economic. Inflation. Housing. The price of food. The Masoud Pezeshkian government’s austerity package had hollowed out household budgets and sent tens of thousands into the streets. Today the question is imperial. The war has not erased material suffering — it has reframed it. The choice presented to every Iranian is no longer about fiscal policy or subsidy reform. It is about sovereignty versus incorporation into an imperial order that already governs much of the region. Donald Trump’s ill-advised war has revealed Iran as a unique formation in modern history: a neoliberal anti-imperialist state. Austerity at home, resistance abroad. On paper, a contradiction, in practice, the state’s operating logic. This is why Iran oscillates between protests against austerity and displays of national solidarity — sometimes within the same month.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/starmer-toast-stop-farage-now-britains-left-wing-forces-must-unite

Starmer is toast. To stop Farage now, Britain's left-wing forces must unite
The architects of New Labour have eviscerated the Labour Party twice, once when former Prime Minister Tony Blair took Britain into the Iraq War in 2003, and now under the leadership of Keir Starmer. Unlike other Labour crises - such as the short-lived rebellion ofPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Man its been like 9 years of news anon
Thank you for your service



 

>Traffic congestion in the Metropolitan Area of the Valley of Mexico generates an annual cost of 47 billion pesos, a figure that represents half of the total economic losses caused by traffic in the country’s main cities, reported Juan José Sierra Álvarez, national president of Coparmex.
>The leader pointed out a marked imbalance in public investment: while 47% of the mobility budget is allocated to private cars —used by only a quarter of the population— public transportation, which moves 39% of citizens, receives only 1.2% of the resources. This lack of investment forces public transport users to lose 118 hours per year commuting, significantly exceeding the 71 hours averaged by motorists.

Who is Coparmex you ask?
Coparmex (Mexican Employers’ Confederation) is a major business organization in Mexico.
In simple terms:
It represents business owners and employers
It advocates for private sector interests
It speaks out on public policy, economic issues, and labor laws
It is not a labor union for workers, but for employers
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>>2811120
you are consistently the worst poster on the website. public transit saves space, cuts down on traffic, and reduces pedestrian injuries

>>2811082
The bourgeoisie get to keep the same surplus value either way, dummy. "Costs" are payments to the bourgeoisie!

If you make $2000 worth of goods a month, are paid $1000 a month and pay $500 in rent, that's $500 for you and $500 for the bourgeois landlord, $1500 to the bourgeoisie total. If you're paid $500 instead but your rent is free, the landlord gets $0 and your employer gets to keep $1500 of value… $1500 to the bourgeoisie! It's the same thing!

>>2811318
Cool story bro, I am not getting in ze pod just because that's more profitable for porky

I want porky to make less profits, not more
I want proles to be discontent with their trajectory to snd from work

>>2811327
You are retarded

>>2811375
Error TS1099: Type "argument list" cannot be empty

>>2811638
I already gave you an argument here >>2809615



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