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The majority of leftypol users are not using dialectial materialism, but mechanical materialism. How did this happen and how do we fix it?
I've been using this website for a while and pretty much whenever I tell people to propagandize, agitate, educate and whatnot I get told "that's useless, you're a liberal minded retard" and when I ask what we should do then I get two answers
>thing nobody in this website will do, like making a guerrilla group or firebombing a walmart or some other very drastic shit that screams main character fantasies
>doing nothing. Just read more books.
And the reason every single time is vulgar mechanical materialism disguised as dialectics. Discuss.
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>"The essence of the “new” trend, which adopts a “critical” attitude towards “obsolete dogmatic” Marxism, has been clearly enough presented by Bernstein and demonstrated by Millerand. Social-Democracy must change from a party of social revolution into a democratic party of social reforms

<What is To Be Done?

Dialectical materialism is, at bottom, a philosophy of science; a set of metaphysical and epistemological claims and concepts that are treated as given and to be used as starting points for further analysis. Learning a brand new way of thinking about knowledge itself is extremely hard, and within that realm dialectical materialism is fairly complex compared to, say, positivism. As such, most people either don't try, or hit a weird half-way point where they kind of get it but not really.

>>2608307
Why are people so eager to shut down discussion on a site that's dedicated to it?

>>2608331
I think he just wanted to post that pic and text, he posted it in some others.

>>2608232
>The majority of leftypol users are not using dialectial materialism
yeah they do

>>2608560
No they don’t
Most of this board are metaphysical idealists and can more accurately be called fascists than anything else, at least ideologically

Most are also stupid american subhumans so they cannot recognize that their version of “socialism” is indistinguishable from a ᴉuᴉlossnW rant

At any rate they should be executed in their homes in front of their families mostly to gauge the reactions of the latter



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Trump is gemmy doe
>farmers rise up to overthrow fauci
>opens up the coal mines again
>uses a red hat
>has a lower class martyr that got the presidential medal of freedom
>modern Russia is Christian
Seems like winning to me

>>2608513
>modern Russia is Christian
Why is this considered a good thing?

>>2608520
OP's post is making fun of multipolaristas for repackaging western imperialist bourgeois morality with multipolar branding stamped on it.

>>2608520
We wouldn’t have Stoli if that one warlord 1000 years ago chose Islam

>>2608520
also what does that have to do with Trump or his being "gemmy." I swear to god chuds are drunks and addicts who post their idle thoughts that they had right after fapping, before they've even washed their hands (which they never do)



 

Hey guys, a couple of days ago, while reading an article, I remembered about a Marx quote where he talks about the use of methods and methodologies in Science by comparing them to a ray of light and a piece of glass (I think? I can't quite remember correctly, something like that anyway). In the quote he says something along the lines of "If knowledge is a ray of light and a method is a piece of glass then by utilising a method we are merely observing the reflection of the ray of light, not the ray of light itself" (I think). The problem is I read this quote so long ago I've forgotten it's exact phrasing.

I've been searching for it for days and I haven't been able to find it, I figured it would be been in the German Ideology, or maybe Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right, or the Philosophical Manuscripts but none of those have anything similar.

To be honest I don't even know if this quote is actually Marx's or if it was Engels or Hegel saying it, that's how bad my memory is.

If any of you remember such a quote and/or know in which text it was written please respond to this thread it would be of great help. Even if you vaguely remember it and haven't checked the text in a while.

Thanks in advance to all of you

>>2607775
ask ai

also, no sharties which are non OC

The fuck do we know, nobody reads marx here


>Any mention of Essence implies that we distinguish it from Being: the latter is immediate, and, compared with the Essence, we look upon it as mere seeming. But this seeming is not an utter nonentity and nothing at all, but Being superseded and put by. The point of view given by the Essence is, in general, the standpoint of 'Reflection'. This word 'reflection' is originally applied, when a ray of light in a straight line impinging upon the surface of a mirror is thrown back from it. In this phenomenon, we have two things – first an immediate fact which is, and secondly the deputed, derivated, or transmitted phase of the same. Something of this sort takes place when we reflect, or think upon an object: for here we want to know the object, not in its immediacy, but as derivative or mediated. The problem or aim of philosophy is often represented as the ascertainment of the essence of things: a phrase which only means that things, instead of being left in their immediacy, must be shown to be mediated by, or based upon, something else. The immediate Being of things is thus conceived under the image of a rind or curtain behind which the Essence is hidden.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/sl/slessenc.htm

>>2607775
Nusoicacas can’t marx they quotes



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US pursuing third oil tanker near Venezuela, officials say
The pre-dawn operation comes days after Trump announced a “blockade” of all sanctioned oil tankers coming in and out of the South American country and follows the Dec. 10 seizure by American forces of an oil tanker off Venezuela’s coast. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem confirmed that the U.S. Coast Guard with help from the Defense Department stopped the oil tanker that was last docked in Venezuela. She also posted on social media an unclassified video of a U.S helicopter landing personnel on a vessel called Centuries.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/us-intercepts-another-vessel-near-venezuela-officials-say-2025-12-21/

UN Experts Warn of “Dangerous Setback” in Peru Over Law Limiting Trials for Crimes Against Humanity
United Nations human rights experts expressed their “deep concern” on Friday over the ruling by Peru’s Constitutional Court upholding Law 32107, which limits the prosecution of crimes against humanity committed before 2002. They described the measure as a “dangerous setback” in compliance with international obligations.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/un-experts-warn-of-dangerous-setback-in-peru-over-law-limiting-trials-for-crimes-against-humanity/

Brazil's Lula, Argentina's Milei clash over Venezuela at Mercosur summit
Sparring comments from Lula and Milei came at a meeting of the South American bloc, at which a future trade deal with the European Union was on the agenda. But the tensions over Venezuela – once a member of Mercosur but suspended in 2016 – exploded in the open, with Lula warning that armed conflict could spark a "humanitarian catastrophe," and Milei praising Trump's sabre-rattling approach to the crisis.
https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/latin-america/brazils-lula-argentinas-milei-clash-over-venezuela-at-mercosur-summit.phtml
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Dems Demand Answers as Trump Photo Disappears From DOJ Online Epstein Files
“This photo, file 468, from the Epstein files that includes Donald Trump, has apparently now been removed from the DOJ release,” Democrats on the House Oversight Committee noted in a Bluesky post. “AG Bondi, is this true? What else is being covered up? We need transparency for the American public.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-and-epstein-photos-2674817173

Trump administration backs continued Dakota Access pipeline operations
In the final report issued Friday, the administration said it would allow the pipeline to continue running — though it would add some additional stipulations. In particular, Dakota Access will have to develop a plan for alternative drinking water supplies for nearby communities in the case of an oil spill. It will also have to install better leak detection systems as new technology becomes available and conduct water sampling twice per year.
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5657693-dakota-access-oil-pipeline/
https://archive.ph/PuySs

ICE agent fires shots at man after being hit by SUV
The man also bit an ICE agent as officers subdued him outside his apartment in St. Paul after he tried to flee on foot, Assistant Homeland Security Secretary Tricia McLaughlin said in an email. The man wasn’t hurt, and the injuries received by the agents struck by the SUV were not life-threatening, though he and the agents were taken to the hospital for evaluation, McLaughlin said.
https://apnews.com/article/ice-agents-struck-car-minnesota-50873a557ea53fc07af5b60132bbd43a

Dollar General agrees to pay $15m to settle price-gouging claims
Dollar General, the retail giant that promises “convenience, quality brands and low prices”, has agreed to pay at least $15m to settle claims that it overcharged customers at many of its 20,000 US stores. ThePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Canada’s Assisted Dying Program Is Bad for the Vulnerable
In 2016, Canada passed landmark legislation to legalize what it euphemizes as Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) — physician-assisted suicide, or euthanasia by doctor. At the time, it was hailed as a progressive victory allowing Canada to join the ranks of liberal scions such as Belgium and the Netherlands, which had legalized such practices in 2002 and 2001, respectively. But the unfolding of the MAiD program since its inception, coupled with recent and upcoming legal changes in Canada, have done more to reveal the moral poverty of the neoliberal project and its attendant conception of autonomy than to buttress the country’s progressive credentials. The history of the movement for MAiD — and the larger discussion of end-of-life issues in biomedical ethics — is usually understood as a cultural victory over traditional prejudices. This is due in no small part to the fact that the most strident opponents of MAiD in the United States are conservative evangelical Christians. Those working to legalize MAiD have tended to ally themselves with other activists working on causes thought of as progressive, such as efforts to legalize marijuana, expand abortion access, and so on. In the United States, such efforts resulted in a broad-based coalition of voters approving a ballot measure legalizing physician-assisted suicide for terminally ill patients in Oregon in 1994. (Following legal challenges, the law took effect in 1997.) Other states followed suit not long after; it is now legal in eleven states as well as Washington, DC. But it would be too hasty to conclude that all of the changes in end-of-life law in the Western world seen in recent decades are unambiguous victories for individual liberty. Analyzing the political-economic context in which Canada has full-throatedly embraced its relatively new MAiD program brings serious moral concerns to light.
https://jacobin.com/2025/12/canada-austerity-assisted-suicide-autonomy

To hell with social mobility: it’s workers moving together who will change this country
WHEN others would head for the coast of a summer, we would head inland to Muirhead. I used to look forward to the smell of the coal fire and my granny soup when we got in — they were Scottish summers after all.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



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What is leftypol's opinion on PCTE (Communist Party of the Workers of Spain)? They're a big Spanish communist political party that has connections with the KKE (Greek Communist Party). I'm thinking of joining because the other option is Frente Obrero (Workers Front) who are pretty much nazis. I'm asking here because the LATAM board is dead

Do whatever you want, it doesn’t matter

Join. It is better than doing nothing. And if you realise that joining was a mistake, you can always leave.
Carpe diem hermano

They are fine unless they disagree with me in anyway way, then they are automatically Social-Fascists.

What about CJS?

>>2608046
Never heard of it, but PCTE has a communist youth and I'm thinking of joining, in fact I've been talking to the coordinator of the group



 

🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Pirates of the Caribbean Edition


>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
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🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

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>>2607985

i tried several minutes ago but some coal ass bait someone posted (now removed) was preventing me

>>2607977
>So what makes you think that that dispute was real but this one is fake?
Because throwing Ukraine/the EU under the bus legit hurts the interests of a big part of amerian rulling class, what Trump is doing in Venezuela doesnt.
>This being the case I don't think its so crazy that they may be less hawkish on this issue
I dont disagree with this, what I'm saying is that just because they are less hawkish doesnt mean they will do anything to stop it or that they even could, what I'm saying is that their difference in tactics is contemplated in their overall strategy of power projection an influence, thats how their hegemony works. You are going to make me quote myself because you ignored the most important part of my post:
>what they want is to weaken their opposition in the region while making sure the rest of other latam countries start moving towards the US on their own after seeing what the other option is, after all, not everyone in the US is as bad as Trump, right? The other side (the democrats) is trying to stop him from doing full blown invasion and they will eventually be in power in the future, right? You cannot "exploit" this "divide" in tactics without advancing their interests.

You still havent answered how could you exploit these differences in tactics without advancing the interests of the american empire.

>>2607998
>what Trump is doing in Venezuela doesnt
Sure it does. Murdering random fishermen in the Carribean Sea has severely harmed their reputation and damaged relations with Latin America. Military action against Venezuela could lead to mission creep or a broader escalation that could bog down the Americans in a military quagmire. Already they've created a lose-lose situation for themselves in which they can't back down without looking weak and foolish, and where they are unlikely to actually topple the Venezuelan government without direct intervention.
>doesnt mean they will do anything to stop it or that they even could
Well that's a broader question of whether or not you think America is still a bourgeois democracy in which the legislature can check executive power.
>You still havent answered how could you exploit these differences in tactics without advancing the interests of the american empire.
Simply identify fence sitting or waffling members of Congress and do everything we can to make them feel like failing to oppose the current aggression would cost them their next election.

>>2608032
replied to you in the new thread

>>2607940
Mommy Nikki



 

I’m honestly curious to know what exactly makes the PMC (university professors, doctors, lawyers, engineers, scientists, artists, those types of people) adhere to the belief system they do. Namely, the psychology behind what’s often termed as “petit-bourgeois radicalism.”

I recently read through two of Caleb Maupin’s books (The American Years of Lead and the one on Trotsky and the Neocons). Maupin asserts that intellectual elites (PMC) are heavily into salon culture and edgy things that have aristocratic connotations. For instance, intellectual elites (PMC) are the ones who hold an overly-romantic view of revolution and romanticize terrorism and political violence. They’re the ones that conjure up images of a big apocalyptic revolution similar to the Christian rapture whereby every little aspect of the existing society is destroyed. He also heavily emphasized that the PMC hates the genuine working/class, because they see them as a threat to their power, so they deliberately manipulate working-class movements in order to offset and eventually dissolve them. Plus, they love sexual promiscuity and use “leftism” in order to promote it.

Last night, I watched a video on Sublation Media between Doug Alain and Chris Cutrone. Cutrone made the point that the PMC romanticize terrorism, mass destruction involving killing and raping, and the “noble death” because the PMC are “gangsters.” Not gangsters the way the ultra-rich capitalists are, but gangsters nonetheless.

My understanding is, intellectual elites love these things like violence and terror for the exact same reason they love modern “art” like Jackson Pollock and jazz and rap “music”: it’s all deeply irrational. They reject historical progress, favour the lumpen and those on the margins of society over the genuine proletariat, and promote destruction because they hate rationality. All of the things they promote as “leftism” are actually deeply aristocratic values: it’s the aristocracy that loves violence, sexual indulgence and a rejection of logic and linear time. I see it like this: intellectual elites, being Nietzscheans at heart, hate rationality and linear progress because they see those things as boxes that limit their ability to indulge, but also the fact that they already have their privileged positions and don’t need a proletarian revolution to have their basic needs met. In fact, a proletarian revolution would mean they lose their privileges and end up working in the fields.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2607763
> Music is irrational by default. It's a bunch of sound frequencies with no actual content that make the listener feel strong emotions about nothing in particular.

The USSR under Stalin tried applying Socialist Realism to kusic.

>>2607813
He sure did, even though that makes zero sense. Stalin was not a god. He was a man in a position of power, and while often used that power for good, there were definitely cases where he used that power for good, he absolutely abused it in certain cases, and this was absolutely a case of that. Stalin had certain aesthetic tastes, and he used his political power to enforce them. The stated reason, that Classical music is somehow more "socialist", was a post-hoc justification that people still believe for some reason, even though China, the socialist success story that has actually managed to survive, has largely abandoned it.

Music doesn’t have ideology, titles and lyrics do, you could literally rename Flight of the Valkyries to Flight of the Batushkas and now it’s epic proletarian music

Like tell me the ideology of a wah pedal, a distortion pedal, or a G chord

>I recently read through two of Caleb Maupin’s books

stopped reading here



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Neuigkeiten

<Unpünktlich wie die Eisenbahn; verspätet auf maroden Strecken zu hohen Preisen: DB-Konzern überbietet jedes Jahr seine Negativrekorde

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503080.versp%C3%A4tungen-bei-der-bahn-unp%C3%BCnktlich-wie-die-eisenbahn.html
<Rot gewinnt; Präsidentsschaftskandidatin in Chile ist von der KP
https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503066.kommunisten-rot-gewinnt.html

<Gideon Levy über Massaker der israelischen Armee an Hungernden in Gaza

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503098.dokumentiert-gideon-levy-%C3%BCber-massaker-der-israelischen-armee-an-hungernden-in-gaza.html

<NATO-Manöver am Niederrhein: Kriegsvorbereitung statt Sicherheit

https://www.rf-news.de/2025/kw27/nato-manoever-am-niederrhein-kriegsvorbereitung-statt-sicherheit

<Parteitag der DKP

https://www.unsere-zeit.de/live-ticker-vom-26-parteitag-der-dkp/
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Stoß

Nur noch vier mal schlafen!

Nur noch vier mal stoßen

Frohes Julfest!

>>2586713
Kola und Limo mag ich nicht, aber das Zeug kauf ich kastenweise für mich. Schön kühl im Sommer zum Feierabend fast so gut wie Bier und hat den Vorteil daß es nicht dreht und müde macht. Mehr als 2 Flaschen am Tag ist aber nicht gut für den Blutdruck. Würde Club Mate auch mit deutlich weniger oder gar keinem Koffein kaufen wegen dem Geschmack



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Greetings comrades, I made this thread to learn more about the communist parties of Israel and Palestine. We all know the Ziorats of LIkkud and the various anti-zio main players (Hezbollah, Hamas, Jenin etc), but I want to focus this thread on the explicitly communist ones. I am aware that many of you will find an 'Israeli communist' party an oxymoron in itself, but I am not asking about whether you support or like them. Just a straightforward exposé.

We of course have heard of the PFLP bangers, but what are their strength nowadays? Are they on the rise among the Palestinian populace or on the decline?

I recently heard of DFLP. What about them?

What about Maki? Are they relevant? What are their positions?

And any others which are less known? What about anarchists?

>We of course have heard of the PFLP bangers, but what are their strength nowadays?
Pretty much irrelevant. West Bank has a whole has been plagued by nihilism ever since the PLO backstabbed decades of mass movement.
>What about Maki? Are they relevant?
They have support only from Palestinian citizens of Israel.

>>2607473
since about 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs, and Maki succeeds to win over even 10% of them, that's pretty good for a communist party tbh. Considering how irrelevant CPs are in most of the world.

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>less known
There is a festival in a WB Agricultural village called Farkha; https://www.revistalegerin.com/en/post/winningagainstthefear. Is DFLP linked I believe but draws internationalists from across the MENA; especially kurdish comrades. They are also doing shit like setting up Palestinian agricultural cooperatives and shit, more info here; https://farkhacallsyou.net/



 

Why is leftypol not throwing massive support behind Mamdani?

No one believes he’s an actual socialist, however his victory will be the most important victory of the American left of the past 90 years. Why? Because it shows the Zionist Lobby has NO POWER compared to the power of the MASSES OF PEOPLE and we can defeat the satanic Zionist entity not with a violent revolution but simply with voting. Nobody believes Mamdani is a perfect candidate but that’s not the point.

So why aren’t we backing him en masse? His inevitable win will be the biggest blow to US-Zio imperialism in modern history.
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>>2600953
Chabad related:
https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/p/us-elite-split

>It’s also worth noting that both Kushner and Witkoff are Jewish. They also both entertain close relations with the Hasidic sect of Chabad, known for its excellent global connections.


>Kitkoff celebrated Yom Kippur with Chabadniks in Miami a few months ago. Kushner pledged $1 million USD to Chabad in 2024 after one of their members was murdered.


>Chabad has also been in the news the past few days because of events in the antipodes, where two shooters killed more than a dozen Chabadniks at a Hannukah event in Sydney. Among those wounded was even the twitter personality Arsen Ostrovsky. In good Zionist fashion, Ostrovsky was himself born in Ukraine. No doubt Australian law enforcement will provide satisfying answers on how a known ISIS-admirer got hold of weapons in a country renowned for its strict gun-laws and surveillance of Muslims. After all, there was such a thorough investigation into the Australian mass shooter in Christchurch…


There's more. It seems like it's a reactionary money laundering and influence peddling front.

He’s toast and he’s not even in office yet.

>>2607086
What do you mean "toast"?
The bodega-bourgeoisie and their representatives (soccdems) got what they wanted, so did the big bourgs (upholding zionism)

The moral pretenses are irrelevant, they just rode the anti-genocide wave as a PR gimmick.
Of course the more " principled" soccdems will swear off him, but they already did their job in helping him get in power, the "swearing off" is merely a preservation of their "brand" to maintain credibility for when they use it to shill for yet another AOC coming down the pipe

>>2600431
>>2607086
This is fucking hilarious.

>>2601940
Yeah. The link between Ukraine and Israel is hilarious. Like Israel cares about Russia taking teh Donbass lmao. It only cares about the money that it's going there instead of to them.



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