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Thoughts on analytical Marxism?
It seems good cuz it uses no hegelian metaphysical bullshit, but uses methodological individualism instead of this which is cool. Like, it makes it easy to understand and logically invincible.

>revisionism

Why not?

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>>2763482
>>2763495
>Duuuuude, are you fucking serious?
are you? you keep asking stupid fucking questions that could be answered with a quick google

>>2763719
Wiki is a cia lies source

marxism has no need for philosophies, marxism is anti-philosophical

>>2768623
Every anti-philosopher was a philosopher. Science is natural philosophy. Logic is philosophy. Organization of thought is philosophy.

Sorry, bub, many tried, but you can't excape it.

Philosophy is here to stay.




 

What is happening sociologically when radlib Leftoids in circles stuffed with permagrads endlessly go on about muh 'Strasserism' or 'NazBols'? Here's an answer that may be a bitter pill for some of you, because the Left rarely likes to use its own tools of class analyses on itself

https://tinkzorg.wordpress.com/2020/05/07/on-strasserism-and-the-decay-of-the-left/
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>>2755464
>the idea that identity politics repels "workers" has also proven fallacious. on the contrary, people love identity politics. those put off by identity politics of the liberal left generally find themselves comfortable with the identity politics of the right. those incensed that you're proud to be black are usually themselves proud to be white, or at least, wish to be told that they should be proud to be white.
I wouldn't say the argument is that identity politics is necessarily repellent to workers as individuals, though. Racial pride is obviously "attractive" for some in some sense and not always for the same reasons, but having people organized in terms of identity (as the Black Pride Socialist League, the White Pride Communist Front, etc.) seems counterproductive to collective worker organization and joint action. Really, it sounds like a recipe for toxicity and rancor.

Of course, the example is extreme, but just because people might be attracted to identity politics doesn't say anything about its place in socialism. I don't find the "tu quoque" argument (and bare assertion) of "well, you must support right-wing idpol if you don't like it" very convincing either.

>what such an outlook really shows is that the left is alienated from "workers" for a different reason: because it imagines a certain fixed image of a worker, in his hard hat, at his factory. a starbucks barista on minimum wage? she's not a worker, she's just some middle class woman. what's she going to do? anyway, we should find positions that repel her and attract the bloke in the hard hat.

I've heard this argument off and on for a number of years, but if this sort of "narrow" view of workers had a significant following and a substantial effect on the left in aggregate (I don't think so myself), you'd think that other groups with different views would have had extensive growth and led to a revival of the left at some point in the past decade, but no such thing has happened.

The alienation of the left from workers is more likely related to the general decline of political party participation, even though political stances have become increasingly central to how people identify themselves.


>>2765394
I actually completely wrote a whole big thesis but the janny feds deleted it I swear to God.

>>2749726
I actually agree with a lot of this. Did you write it? But there are some key differences.

1: The right does it too. There's the class you claim to be, the class people see you as, and the class you act upon and internally recognize yourself as. If you actually care about any of this; you are not proletariat. You're petty bourgeois middle class. Third worldists are right about that. What they're not right about is how this interacts with such people.

Most aren't willing to admit leftism is synopsis with nihilism. For me to care about stability, I have to have class interest in that stability. That's why liberals can speak all day long about building cheap housing for inner city folks, and it means nothing. Cheapening goods and services means nothing. You think I care about any of that? Why do you unless you have a vested interest in it?

Let's take for example ice. Ice is le'bad. Just grabbing Latinx and throwing them in vans. Bad stuff. Ok…and? Lots of things are bad. Bad stuff happens to me every day. Why is it my responsibility to care? Because I'm a good person? Why is it my responsibility to be a good person?

It isn't. It's bullshit the other class interests invented. And you acknowledge this and think it means I want them out of my country. I don't as see…that's also not in my class interests. The contradiction of capital is some need those Latinx around working for cheap, others see them as an existential threat. The only thing I see is how upset the situation makes people when I'm not the one working, I'm not the one having sex with some 6/10 Mexicana Trotskyist named Pumfee, I'm not the one who is getting shit out of this. In essence I am the real proletariat and for me this just looks like a purple haired woke gorilla rubbing herself up against an ice agent molesting him and it's all very funny, but ultimately just distraction.

The fact of the matter is, if either side got it's way, my life does not significantly change. The only real leftist position is hoping the lights go out. No hospital care, no food in grocery stores, no gas to drive with, no hope left. Everyone is dead or just wishes they were dead. If that physically repulses you, you have petty bourgeois vested interests.

>>2765371
>you'd think that other groups with different views would have had extensive growth and led to a revival of the left at some point in the past decade, but no such thing has happened.
the group in question is the actually-existing left outside /leftypol/ and a handful of cult parties and boomers. blue haired starbucks union member furries who proclaim a belief in a nebulously defined socialism.



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>>2768468
the problem with mmt is that capital can just stop lending to you or inflate prices as much as it wants in protest to pro-worker spending. for mmt to be successful you'd basically need a socialist revolution and at that point there's no real argument for money in the first place

>>2768584
Lending is ultimately what drives asset prices. The trick for capitalists is to artificially inflate asset prices through excessive lending while maintaining the stability of financial institutions. If you do that on asset classes like property you can force generations in to debt servitude.

>>2768586
>you can force generations in to debt servitude
nothing matters so long as worker replacement through birthrates remains negative globally. capitalism would last for thousands of years if populations of countries actually grew over time, so not having kids is the most revolutionary action an individual can make

>>2768869
True and based, just havibg 1 kid would be enough

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UK Government to Investigate Rising Antisemitism in Schools

>With 204 school-related antisemitic cases recorded last year, concerns are mounting over the safety and long-term future of Jewish school pupils and teachers in the UK.


>The British government has launched an independent review into antisemitism in England’s schools and colleges following a sharp rise in classroom-related incidents since the October 7th, 2023 Hamas pogrom in Israel.
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>>2766386
Who cares about the monarchy. We essentially relegated them to an iconic jester figure, they can stay.

>>2768750
An expensive jester

>>2768751
They probably bring more money than they coast with all the british crown soft power/tourism/consooming. It's maybe the last monarchy on earth anyone cares about.


>>2767960
>Economic reconstruction, the restoration of state capacity, and liquidation of the deano as a class are material priorities
Not possible without proletarian rule, which in turn is not possible without a democratic republic



 

the unabomber was right. he was totally right. i'm not even a primitivist, but the danger of technology is so obvious, the trajectory of this whole thing is so obvious. fuck marxists, fuck rightists. they both want technological progress, they both want to enslave us. fuck them.
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>>2765980
Psychiatry is a pseudoscience just like transhumanism, retard.

>>2766153
The most Christian thing to do is to purify the wicked souls of the intellectuals/nerd technocrats through the fires of the Inquisition, because their demonic transhumanist bodies are beyond redemption. That includes techno sympathizers too.

>>2767102
Yours won't last another century. I see Hunter gathers in Africa living pretty well while Musk panics because of his microplastic infested slaves are all infertile lol

friendly reminder that you are all on the internet right now

stop being stupid

life would be perfect if I had all the tech of the 21st century, enough money to not work for the rest of my life, smoke all the weed I want and pay for 3 whores a day to get my balls drained.

the only problem of modernity is that I don't have money or I have to get a job to earn money.



 

I support Kanye West.

I don’t care if this is “out of character” for a leftist to support a multi-millionaire who has openly flirted with fascism but there’s a much bigger issue here regarding Kanye West and the tremendous amount of scrutiny he’s received in the media for years.

Kanye is autistic. He was late-diagnosed at age 47 last year after having been previously misdiagnosed as bipolar. Anyone who’s familiar with his behaviours can clearly tell he’s autistic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH3gc09kjQE

I’m autistic as well. I can’t live alone. I dropped out of college at age 20. I’ve never worked a real job. I currently live with my mother who is ableist as fuck. When she gets too old and becomes disabled herself I will move in with my allistic sister so I don’t have to be my mother’s caregiver. All my life I’ve experienced nothing but hate for my autistic traits and inability to live up to allistic social norms. I don’t recognize social hierarchy and have a strong sense of Justice which innately threatens capitalism.

The reason Kanye is important to me is because him being maligned and cancelled is an autistic civil rights issue. He made a song about Hitler, so what? The Alchemist made an album entirely made up of Zionist samples called “Israeli Salad” and never got cancelled for it despite Zionism being identical to Nazism. Him being a billionaire doesn’t bother me at all because 80% of autistic people are unemployed. Kanye needs to be supported for one very good reason: Autistic people can only win equality and acceptance when we’re allowed to unmask without consequences. Kanye being cancelled and hated BECAUSE of his autistic traits like being outspoken and not recognizing social hierarchy sets back the progress of the autism acceptance movement by decades. Autistic people deserve the right to unmask and live as our authentic selves regardless of how much it triggers allistics. We aren’t responsible for allistic feelings or accommodating allistics by masking. Masking is psychological torture and the main reason the primary cause of death for autistic people is S—CIDE.

We have a moral duty to support autistic people even if they’re autistic people we don’t like. When you attack a famous autistic for unmasking you’re attacking ALL of us. Also stream Bully in order to pay Kanye reparations for eugenics (somPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2769100
Delusional

>>2769100
>But because you’re autistic the medical establishment has decided you’re “not useful” for capitalism since you’ve never held down a real job before, so you’re denied the kidney transplant and end up dying a painful death.

What is triage?

If you're a doctor you save the people you're able to save. You don't waste sought-after organs on patients who don't stand a chance and will most likely have more serious medical issues down the road. If you have turbo-lupus that fucked up your kidneys and other organs that badly then chances are that lupus will continue to destroy the transplanted organs. A lot of lupus patients get denied transplants for this exact reason, not because capitalist healthcare is "eugenicist".

>>2767118
MAN THESE KULAKS TOOK MY GRAIN FROM ME

“Jewish supremacy doesn’t ex—“

He is probably having the biggest autistic meltdown right now over being banned from the UK.



 

What are Iran's plan for when the oil reserves of the majority of bourgeoise countries run out and the capitalist class begins to put pressure on their governments to greenlit support for US war of aggression. Studying the First Gulf-War, you can find similarities to the current conflict, at the beginning of the Gulf war, most US allies were reluctant of joining the Coalition, but when shit hit the fan the decided to join, The liberal bourgeois world might love to virtuue signal that thee war in Iran is bad, but the clock is ticking and they need oil.

>>2768463
I think the route France has taken is looking like the easiest, and cheapest way out of the situation.



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>priests and churches have unreasonable power in the country
>government led by religious fanatics unable to modernize and adapt to the times
>a large part of the population have many rights on paper but no way to actually actualize them
>the ruling class works in the interest of other nations
>a new wave of haphazard industrialization and transition to a new kind of economy leads to millions in poverty struggling to find work
>war after war to secure resources and borders
>loses war to a weaker power and finally socialist revolution erupts in its embryonic form
what do we do about america? pic unrelated
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>>2767660
The internet has decreased productivity, especially since the advent of the smart phone, not increased it

>>2767620
>the ruling class works in the interest of other nations
wrong. the ruling class works to bring national socialism to treatler settleroids. everything the ruling class in america does is for your treatlerism.

>>2767660
Agreed. You cannot predict the madness of capitalism. Just when you think you understand it, it evolves, adapts, like a deadly virus.

They don't call America the great Satan just because it's cool. It means something. A metaphysical tyrant and concept of oppression and pain most can't begin to understand. I have some ideas of what could transpire, but even than those are but hopeful copes on my part as a living man. It'll be more depressing and hasty with the changes than I could verbally predict.

Not even Marx himself could've forseen people's reactions and psychological entropy from post industrial capital. Your average person does not even see the factories or the bloodshed. Let alone how it all relates to the mobility of what their Epstein politicians will call progress.

I don't say that to scare anyone or to circlejerk what's already a common anti western sentiment. I don't need anyone's approval, and if I did, there's noone on leftypol who could provide me what I seek anyway. It's just an observation. Dialectical materialism.

>>2767656
China printed 157 km of highway without human workers

>>2768184
>it's china's fault my grandma is a treat addict with too much money
lol she spent your petty bourgeois inheritance on labubus. that rocks



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How do you as Marxists reconcile your immense loss when you consider that next to one even thinks about class when it comes to explaining societal problems? At best they consider how much money people make, which isn’t a Marxian conception of class. So, if the very core of your theory is not even considered, how will socialism be successful? You talk about “the right conditions” but will “the right conditions” just magically endow people with the thinking that owners of the means of production are the problem? Why was the idea not even taken seriously for so long then? It seems like when shit hits the fan people will be more inclined to believe it’s only billionaires who are the problem, or Jews, or non-whites, or communists, ironically enough.
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>>2768065
Reddit is literally and American website and the majority of the userbase is American

>>2768076
It’s also annoyingly electorialist

>>2767271
Yes, but they have a childish view of what rich means
For example, rich people don't deal in money, they deal in assets and expenditure of the capabilities of those assets. Money might as well be shit left over from dinosaurs eating up all the food. That's essentially what money is. We know this because banks can oh so easily freeze accounts, ignore debts, print more, meanwhile they think some taxes or more funds for poor communities is going to solve a damn thing.

You're not physically going to take over industry and the bourgeois isn't going to just give it to you willingly. Revolution is a power fantasy and reforms are a nightmare induced by the weak.

>>2768146
your poltardation is showing

>>2768108
I do not disagree with that, the point is that you see class consioussness even in its infancy, proving OP wrong



 

German men need military permit for extended stays abroad
While the law requires men to request the permit, the spokesperson clarified, it also obliges the military career center to issue it, if "no specific military service is expected during the period in question.” "Since military service under current law is based exclusively on voluntary participation, such permissions must generally be granted,” the official added. Acknowledging the "profound" impact of the amended conscription law, the Defense Ministry said it is working on new rules for exceptions to the exit permit requirement.
https://www.dw.com/en/german-men-need-military-permit-for-extended-stays-abroad/a-76662677
https://archive.ph/PIaQR

‘No to war’: Austria blocks US warplanes from its airspace
Earlier on Thursday, Austria announced it had banned U.S. military aircraft involved in the Iranian conflict from using its airspace, citing the country's neutrality law. “There have indeed been requests and they were refused from the outset,” Colonel Michael Bauer, spokesperson for the Defense Ministry, told POLITICO.
https://www.politico.eu/article/austria-blocks-us-warplane-overflights-citing-neutrality/
https://archive.ph/MoIpI

Cap prices now to save jobs and industry, unions demand
TUC general secretary Paul Nowak said: “Already struggling before the war, Trumpflation has sent gas prices soaring — further piling the pressure on some of Britain’s key industries like chemicals, ceramics and glass. “Trump’s war must not put jobs in critical industries at risk. “The government should urgently bring forward a temporary targeted gas price cap, to stabilise the price of gas for critical industries and protect UK manufacturing, and speed up the energy price support scheme making sure it reaches crucial sectors.”
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US satellite firm Planet Labs announces blackout on war on Iran images
The US company announced the decision in an email to customers on Saturday, with news agencies quoting it as saying the government had asked satellite imagery providers ⁠to impose an “indefinite withhold of imagery”. The restriction expands upon a 14-day delay on imagery of the Middle East that Planet Labs implemented last month, which extended an initial 96-hour delay, a move the firm said was meant to prevent adversaries from using the imagery to attack the US and its allies.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/5/us-satellite-firm-planet-labs-announces-blackout-on-war-on-iran-images
https://archive.ph/lyIHm

List of Programs Trump 2027 Budget Proposal Would Cut
Here is an overview of programs that would be cut: Job Corps (eliminated, –$1.6bn) Senior Community Service Employment Program (SCSEP) (–$395m) OSHA Susan Harwood Training Grants (eliminated) Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs (OFCCP) (defunded) Bureau of International Labor Affairs (ILAB) reductions (–$46m)
https://www.newsweek.com/list-of-programs-trump-2027-budget-proposal-would-cut-11780685
https://archive.ph/jRPQ6

More than 20 people injured after driver crashes into crowd at Louisiana parade
The driver, who has not been publicly identified, is in custody, according to a statement from the Iberia parish sheriff’s office. Some of the injuries are believed to be serious, authorities said. Eleven people were transported by ground and two by air, according to first responders.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/04/louisiana-parade-car-crash

Message to Senate Dems: No Confirmation of New AG Without Commitment on Epstein Files Release
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Why socialist Cuba is more democratic than the U.S
The renewed escalation of hostility by the Trump administration towards Cuba—through tightened sanctions, political pressure, and open ideological aggression—once again exposes a fundamental contradiction. A country that presents itself as the "global model of democracy" continues to treat a small socialist island as a persistent threat. This is not a coincidence. It points to something deeper: what is being contested is not “democracy” in the abstract, but two fundamentally different ways of organizing power in society. At a moment when Cuba faces intensified economic pressure and systematic attempts at destabilization, a simple question emerges: if Cuba is truly “undemocratic,” why must it be constantly attacked, isolated and discredited? And, just as importantly, what does it reveal about the United States that it invests so much effort in undermining it?
https://www.idcommunism.com/2026/04/why-socialist-cuba-is-more-democratic-than-the-us.html

Crypto Is Flailing
It feels like just yesterday when crypto markets last crashed hard. Back in 2022, what had been a wildly careening celebrity- and media-fueled hype train suddenly was a smoldering wreckage. Those were the days of Sam Bankman-Fried’s fraud-riddled FTX exchange, which went belly up along with a slew of other big crypto projects. The price of Bitcoin, the largest and most trend-setting of thousands of cryptocurrencies, dropped from its high of over $64,000 in 2021 to barely hitting $17,000 by 2022’s end. Along with Bitcoin, all things crypto sank. It felt at the time as though we all awoke from a bizarre collective dream in which mass-produced JPGs of cartoon monkeys had sold for prices that rivaled those of an average home, and trading made-up digital tokens on your phone promised to deliver unthinkable riches for the brave of heart. In the wake of crypto’s crash, most people preferred to tune out anything that included words like “blockchain,” “NFTs,” or “Bitcoin.” Even when prices for crypto recovered in 2024, the cringey backwash of 2022 clung on within mainstream public opinion. And then came Donald Trump.
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