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Yeah, I don’t believe in objective morality, god, miracles, magic, pseudoscience, optimism, immortality, physical regeneration, reanimation, ghosts, souls, alchemy, aliens, and any other self affirming optimistic shit unenlightened believers believe in. My values are might is right, materialism, and cynicism.

I’m so fucking cool, edgy, and mature unlike the rest of those stupid hordes. Look at how cool, edgy, and mature I am.
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>>2243135
>it's not abstract/mentally constructed.
All morality is an abstract construct.

>>2190099
Something many miss when reading Stirner is that his work is deconstructive at its core. It was written at a time of Christian morality created a false dichotomy of selfless altruism and selfish egotistical assholery. Stiner started out at one end of the dichotomy, the egotistical asshole side, and then analysed it until he ended up with something completely different. You *have* to read him with this historical context and rethorical style in mind. Stirner didn't even believe in "indviuals" as we understand them to be

>>2243135
retard

Most stirner guys are transhumanists




 

>Rather, it is a product of society at a certain stage of development; it is the admission that this society has become entangled in an insoluble contradiction with itself, that it has split into irreconcilable antagonisms which it is powerless to dispel. But in order that these antagonisms, these classes with conflicting economic interests, might not consume themselves and society in fruitless struggle, it became necessary to have a power, seemingly standing above society, that would alleviate the conflict and keep it within the bounds of ’order’; and this power, arisen out of society but placing itself above it, and alienating itself more and more from it, is the state.
>The proletariat seizes political power and turns the means of production in the first instance into state property. But, in doing this, it abolishes itself as proletariat, abolishes all class distinctions and class antagonisms, abolishes also the state as state.
>State interference in social relations becomes, in one domain after another, superfluous, and then dies out of itself; the government of persons is replaced by the administration of things, and by the conduct of processes of production. The state is not "abolished". It dies out.
Did the USSR abolish the state as state, as "society [that] has become entangled in an insoluble contradiction with itself", namely that of class interest? Why does the first, and third quotation sound so much more like the state under neoliberalism than under the Socialism? Is it rather that the state is justified by more than the contradiction between class interests? What are your thoughts?

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch01.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/ch24.htm
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>>2252737
Given that Lenin argues that socialism is a transitive stage between capitalism and communism where class society is not yet fully abolished, it would appear that you are actually in agreement with him despite claiming otherwise.

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>>2252777
I think Lenin would probably have a nuanced opinion along those lines but as you can see it is clear his students are retarded.

>>2252941
im where the bar is at bucko

>>2252941
>>The proletariat seizes political power and turns the means of production in the first instance into state property. But, in doing this, it abolishes itself as proletariat, abolishes all class distinctions and class antagonisms, abolishes also the state as state.
The second Engles quote is the basis for my claim that Socialism is classless.



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What is the source of the endless bitching and moaning from the burger reich (who is btw the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the pharaoh of proxy wars, etc. etc. etc.) about "China is stealing muh intellectual property"? Is there any basis to this accusation or are the burger fuhrers really just manufacturing consent again? From what I understand mainland Chinese exchange students have their names all over research papers in burger universities, so isn't it the other way around? Isn't America brain draining everyone, and then privatizing the results of that?
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>>2252568
Google "Francis Cabot Lowell" to learn about the yanks and their industrial espionage antics

>>2252628
ok but they're fundamentally ignoring the existence of the wolf amendment when they blame china for the lack of cooperation

>>2252568
yeah and its how it was always done.
Once the English built the steam engine, the French and Germans did not invent it again "indigenously" from scratch. They adopted the technology and ran away with it.
But when its among euros, it is 'collaboration', the 'universality of science', the 'adoption of better and newer techniques'.
When it is non-whities, it is about STEALING MUH TRIKKKNOLOGY

>>2252568
>people who make this critique seem to think unless the Chinese independently discovered the foundations of semiconductor physics they should be forbidden from using it forever and ever
I wonder when Westerners will forego the use of gunpowder.

>>2252568
There is no such thing as intellectual property. It's just playing along with the liberal order of things because that's how the world economy is arranged for now. If every industry secret leaked and a terrible curse fell upon anyone who tried to enforce intellectual property (even by proxy), the workers would only benefit. The rate of profit would fall even faster and the more liberal the arrangement the less incentive to invest in R&D.



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Today is second-to-last day I could have started the thread with this comic, okay?

Let's try to start with discussing whenever or not dualistic religions (faiths placing on the top of the universe two Gods - one good and one evil; Zoroasthrism being the most well-known) losing to the monotheistic ones (faiths placing on the top of the universe one God - who may favor good but is himself beyond good and evil… at least, from our perspective) is a historical accident or a byproduct of the natural material development of the early and middle-stage agrarian society? It is interesting that monolatry (sort of "proto-monotheism" where there exists a pantheon of big and small deities, but one of them is a God of Gods who transcends the universe and is as powerful relative to the other deities as they are to humans) had developed independently from [proto-]Abrahamic world in China (Jade Emperor), India (Brahman) and in faiths of bunch of lesser nations. Is it possible that belief in One God is more beneficial for supporting the belief in one legitimate Emperor and/or one legitimate societal order than anything else?



The foundational text of Marxist understanding of religion:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/
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>>2252602
Next time I'd do this, it's just that for me, if the thread had went lower than the 4th page, it means it's dead.

>>2252593
"Religion" still exists as bourgeois philosophy: existentialism, nihilism, etc.

>>2252616
Religion still exit: I go to church with my chirdren every sunday

>>2252591
Yeah, but in the 19th century the anti-enlightenment started

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i’ve been lurking /a/ and /lgbt/ for years and something kept popping up that no one wants to really admit. tons of guys who are deep into anime, especially the cute girl slice-of-life stuff, end up transitioning or calling themselves trans. not like one or two. i’m talking a full-on trend. they start posting with anime girl pfps, joke about being “eggs,” start asking about HRT, and boom. next thing you know they’re full-time she/her on estrogen. people just act like this is a normal pipeline and don’t stop to ask why it keeps happening

being a guy in our world is kind of trash for a lot of us. you’re expected to be emotionally dead, aggressive, dominant. no crying, no softness, no comfort unless it’s a joke or porn. masculinity is cold. and anime is the total opposite. it gives you girls who are warm, emotionally open, affectionate, kind. it hits you somewhere deep. i wrote it like this, “the femininity of anime girls is expressive, soft, emotionally intelligent and affectively warm. it is everything that masculinity is not” and that contrast feels like a lifeline if you’ve grown up feeling numb and isolated

characters like Rui from Gatchaman Crowds hit different. he’s a guy but dresses femme, looks better than any girl you know, and still commands respect in the story. not treated like a freak, just exists. i said, “Rui is gender-non-conforming and not punished for it” and that’s huge. when you’re used to being told to man up or shut up, seeing someone like Rui makes you think maybe there’s a way out. and slowly, you start to feel more like him than the angry gym bros you’re supposed to relate to. you start to post anime girls not just because they’re cute but because they feel like you

this is where it gets uncomfortable for people. autogynephilia. the idea that some dudes start getting turned on or emotionally hyped by imagining themselves as girls. and yeah, it’s real. i said, “I think anime girls function as a kind of metaphor for the concept of femininity itself, and the idea of femininity becomes eroticized through repetition” and that’s the key. the more you stare at these idealized girls, the more you start to want to be that. not just to look like them but to feel the way they feel. over time, your brain starts rewiring. “When you are constantly looking at anime girls and thinking about them and using them as your identity, you are literally conditioning yourself.” it’s not just fetish, it’s identity forming through exPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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OP I've seen what you're talking about countless times.

This archetypal kind of weeaboo used to exist in /a/ but the /pol/ution that seeped into the entire site through the 2010's more or less made it haram - yet it still exists on other weeb spaces currently; think vtuber discords, MAL, among other smaller spaces.

It's ofc not <caused> by anime, but my theory is that many people with latent gender dysphoria are "naturally" attracted to cgdct.

As a note, be aware that much of what you're writing here can be considered highly heretical to the leftypol.org canon so you might get a forced vacation to siberia if the thread gets any traction.

>>2252369
>what you're writing here can be considered highly heretical to the leftypol.org canon
These topics often get moved to /siberia/ due to the idpol rule, but the OP is by no means "heretical". To us marxists it is self-evident, that gender doesn't come from some authentic internal identity in the way liberal idealogues parrot. I bet you're one of those people who can't shut up about
>muh transhumanist idealism
then turns around to say
>i only take transmedicalists seriously
literal clown shit.

>>2251802
>It may give you comfort if you already feel that way.
I think anime attracts queer people for the same reason musical theatre did. It's expressive, colourful, flamboyant, has a whole cosplay subculture of crazy costumes, etc. There's also the added dose of escapism that a lot of alienated queer people might be attracted to, etc. Tbh I don't think anybody can be "turned trans" and I would consider this a right wing position. After all if people can be turned trans, then there must be media, social trends, movements, and individuals which are turning people trans, perhaps deliberately. They're turning our kids trans folks! Plus, if people can be turned trans, then this means they can be "cured". No, trans people are born that way, and the most anime might do is give an avenue of expression for it.

1. This would be better suited for the >>>/lgbt/ board. It's just gonna become a debate addict shithole here.
2. Seeing characters of other genders chilling and being a variety of archetypes can unlodge internalized misogyny/misandry that might make trans repress the notion they might be that other gender. It makes being any gender a less scary prospect to see them represented in media.
>>2251802
It's like a 75%/25% split with chuds being the 25% and declining as they start burning bridges with anime over it being too woke. Same with videogames. Chuds are oroborosing themselves by putting the culture war treadmill up to max speed, jetisoning people that don't have time for that leftward.

Moved to >>>/lgbt/1190.



 

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>>2252454
He sees himself as the next Lenin. His job is to write theses and give speeches. Your job is to die in a trench.

New thread, chvds >>2252517

>>2252516
If this is Leninism then I am not a Leninist

>>2252519
It's not Leninism, it's one dude with an ego trip. You can always tell someone has a big ego when they can't help but try and stand out on an anonymous forum

>>2252522
I know I was just making a funni quote



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Islam apologia itself, is indeed extremely dangerous, intellectually, and socially, for several different reasons. Leftists all too often cross the line between anti racist action and pro religious sloganeering. Islam has become something of a problem, ideologically, for racists in Europe, because the recognition of "Islamic civilization" is such a widespread phenomena to begin with. And this means? Arabs, Persians, and the peoples of Southwest Asia, are denied an actual according identity, and are instead bunched up into the mythical land that is the "Islamic world". By presupposing, and recognizing the existence of "the Muslim world" (something which was never done before the Iranian counterrevolution), you do nothing but ideologically strengthen the initial presuppositions of Islamic fundamentalists. The "Muslim people" do not exist. Just as, in the same way, the "Christian people" do not. You see Christian fundamentalists talk of how "Christians" are being persecuted, but there is a reason as to why no one takes them seriously beyond the fact that we live in a secular society. No one takes it seriously because no on recognizes the existence of a "christian people" which can be persecuted. Why must Islam be an exception? These "Muslim defense" organizations, headed by Muslim spiritual leaders, should be marked by the Left as political enemies, uniting the "Muslim" proletariat with it's class enemy, in order to for fill the interests of what? Of the "Muslim" petite bourgeoisie? If the Muslim religious establishment demands religious freedom in the west, and the "fruits" of Western liberalism, they must also recognize that, this also means that they must simply deal with anti-Muslim cartoons, which, for the most part, are sparked and electrified from talk of banning them (remember "draw mohammad day"?) they must also receive the same cultural ridicule, as the Christian church does. Take for example, social conceptions of religious leaders. We make fun of pastors, religious kids, and "cool kid" priests for what they are, because they represent a backwardness which was previously surpassed. However, this concept of "tolerance" makes an exception out of the Muslim religious establishment because "They're brown people who don't know any better". As if Muslims are animals. Muslim kids must receive the same social pressure to keep their religion to themselves, or, to not care about it in the same way white children in the western world are. How are we, as CommuPost too long. Click here to view the full text.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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>>2252411
'humiliated'? by having thousands of their own innocent civilians (including babies) murdered by the zios?!?!

>>2252425
This is excellent bait, can't even hate.

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>>2252036
>Islam apologia itself, is indeed extremely dangerous, intellectually, and socially, for several different reasons.
>>2252391
>The main problem in the West is that leftists infantilise Islam
>>2252400
>Every fucking time someone criticises islamic cancer, some asshole will say its zio propaganda.
>>2252425
>lol, how can you be anti-zionists without being a muslim, you do realise that the only claim that palestinians have over the land of israel is a religious one?
t.

>>2252036
Truth Nuke



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What was your opinion of leader of the soviet union Leonid Brezhnev I know it wasn’t like the vladimir lenin are Joseph Stalin but he still contributed a lot of contributions to Soviet Union “
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Brezhnev was a mediocre leader. He wasn't as batshit insane and authoritarian as Stalin, but he still remained the leader of a state-capitalist project, he curtailed the increase in personal liberties visible under the Corn Man, and (I'm still salty about this) he fucked over Czechoslovakia.

His rule was very economically stable and thus relatively pleasant for the average Soviet citizen though. My older relatives remember the time period as the time when there was always food on the store shelves.

>>2252253
>he curtailed the increase in personal liberties visible under the Corn Man
Actually, Corn Man undid most of his liberalizations himself before he was replaced.

>>2252265
Et tu cornman

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>>2250521
>What was your opinion of leader of the soviet union Leonid Brezhnev
😗

>>2250627
>He was ballsy ngl
He liked fast cars, medals, and kissing men. My kind of leader.



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Well I wasn’t expecting that. I know that Nigeria has an NYSC program for youth but that’s optional. This isn’t and it’s likely that as those terroristic assholes continue to spread, the draft is going to be expanded not just here but across the rest of the west and possibly the continent.
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>>2245847
I guess. These people genuinely have a lot they need to do on their end to mature and cooperate with the rest of society, but they also need a lot of help that I am not in a position or emotional state to provide or want to provide.

>>2245849
Either my mom is a horrible cook (she isn’t) or internet taste buds are fried. Personally I think it just tastes like dough, but the soup is nice

What do you think of this documentary?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXOCs7yORUk

>>2245893
I’ve heard a lot about vigilante groups and hunters already going after these people in Nigeria. I tried finding stats, an AI estimated that there are roughly the same number of vigilantes in that country (220k-ish) as there are soldiers, but I cannot confirm that. Never seen footage of those groups until now. Only articles.

I read that groups like JNIM and ISIS-WA actually have a lot of local support from rural herders and such because they protect them from bandits better than the government does and collect less tax. I also read that ISIS had this same kind of popular support for a while when they first took a large chunk of Iraq. If this is true then the issue will not be easily solved by military means, the area would have to get more developed to reduce the Islamic terrorism problem from the root. This is pretty much impossible for countries like Nigeria where Islamic terrorists have already occupied large portions of it, but Ghana may still have time to improve the situation of the local Fulani and such before they start flipping rural areas to the control of JNIM.

>>2245854
>Either my mom is a horrible cook (she isn’t)
Lol I clocked that need to sound like you aren't disrespecting your moms cooking like it's something you got to clarify, I feel that.
>or internet taste buds are fried. Personally I think it just tastes like dough, but the soup is nice
I think this is an issue for anyone who grew up on a dish that then becomes a trend in the west. Plenty of stuff I've grown up on that I've had so much of it's kind of "boring", or just a staple, only to watch other people taste it and act like it's the completely otherworldly. Makes me wish I could reset my tastebuds for a bit.



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why are so many[*] anarchists also lifestylists, moralists, christians, essentialists, superstitious, etc and not schmittians, hobbesians, machivellians, sadeans, nechayevites, nihilists, etc. instead of acknowledging that hirearchy and authority exists objectively and that its not intrinsically "good" or "bad" so you can do whatever you want with it, they accept authority only if its the Good™ Authority, ie moral authority, the authority of god, the authority of a parent pushing their child out of the way of an oncoming car or w/e other example they use for "just" hirearchy.

it always seemed strange that an anarchist would ever accept an authority to deem what is "just" and what is not.

[*]inb4 i know the first sentance is a vague generalising presupposition, im basing it upon stereotypical internet anarchists like r/anarchism as well as the history of christian anarchism being much more developed and prevelant than say christian marxism, and mystics like hakim bey, etc, if you are an anarchist who is or is not like this pls articulate your position and critique other anarchists
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>>2249738
Because the vast majority of Anarchists, and Western Leftists are not actually that seriously interested in politics or political economy or even philosophy. The Western left is nothing more than the modern form of the 1970s/80s Punk movement. People say "Counter culture died in the 2000s" but the reality is with social media and Tumblr it transformed into Political themed subculture.
Western leftists (not only Anarchists, even tonnes of ""ML's"")are against Heiarchy because Punks have always been ANARCHY \m/ FUCK THE MAN ACAB! WOOOO
>>2249744
Daily reminder that my friend worked for AG department (in quite a high role) 15 years ago and told me Anarchists were the group they had most infiltrated alongside Islamists.

>>2250795
Because they do nothing but take credit for past comrades' revolutions while talking shit online.

>But China


You're not Chinese and you're not in the goddamn CPC, I want to praise someone for reducing China's poverty level I'll praise them, not you for agreeing with them.

>>2250883
Storytime. Post more about this friend.

>for AG department

What is this.

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>>2249738
>and not schmittians, hobbesians, machivellians, sadeans, nechayevites, nihilists, etc. instead of acknowledging that hirearchy and authority exists objectively
Then they wouldn't be anarchists.
Hobbes is peak Statism along with Plato with the corporatist & unitary aim of Leviathan.

>why are so many[*] anarchists also lifestylists, moralists, christians, essentialists, superstitious, etc

I have observed Ancaps, so my opinion will stem from them:
It is a desperate bid to bypass the need of human rulers by appealing to these.
Ancap is like a low church prot in thinking he only needs the NAP to mediate human affairs like a prot only needs his Bible.
They think an appeal to values by themselves will suffice to govern a people without any rulers.
I notice Ancaps like Catholicism in particular because they see the Church as another private organization in opposition to Statism. For them the Church is an Anti-State.
It is stupid to me, but this is what you get.

Hobbes observed this trend in seeing low church prots & high church ultramontanists come together in harmony in pitting church against state.



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