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the movement needs belief as much as it needs theory and organization
i believe in stalin
what about you?

The body was too short or empty.
The body was too short or empty.
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>>2649746
Like a woman seeking refuge in the arms of a strong daddy figure. Pathetic.

If the Soviet Union created an actual cult around Stalin, as in, a religious doctrine with Stalin as the Savior, it would still be around today.

>>2650102
Would it be worth preserving at thst point?

>>2682600
Yea it will get deleted cause you're spamming it all over multiple threads, not because you're saying something forbidden. And like I wrote on the previous one - this site didin't use to be like this, it had a real brothehood and community, now the GETchan pedo mods let shitheads post whatever they want. with no quality control.

>>2649746
Why believe in a dead man? Religion has no place in Socialism. Believe in ideas and respect those who fought before you



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So any word yet on how our Kurd uyghas and Belugastanis are taking it? This is all riding on them I think.

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>>2707967
Iran has struck multiple sites in Kuwait, Jordan and UAE, strike on Qatar reportedly intercepted

>>2707703
>i think iran will not retaliate. i think they will recognize that israel is getting desperate that the negotiations are going well and that will take away any excuse for trump to launch the war. so they tried this in order to force their hand.
Nothing says "I am not owned" like preemptively describing surrender as a victory condition.

Its over

i juszst woke up, tldr>



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holy fuck this is really bad

United States President Donald Trump says the US has begun “major combat operations” in Iran after Israel also said it ⁠had launched missile attacks against the country.
Iran has retaliated, targeting Israel and US assets in multiple Middle East countries, including Qatar, the UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain, Syria, Jordan and Iraq.

Join us in /Iran/ # 2 thread.

We are all there.



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Your Party under Corbyn to work with Greens on ‘coordinated left-flank offensive’
After winning a comprehensive victory to become the de facto leader of the leftwing startup party on Thursday, Corbyn will seek to rebuild bridges with pro-Gaza communities “alienated” by his rival Zarah Sultana, sources close to Corbyn said. Corbyn will become Your Party’s parliamentary leader, after an election in which Sultana was also voted on to the party’s leadership committee under its collective leadership model. Corbyn-backed candidates took 14 of the 24 available places on the party’s central executive committee (CEC). Sultana-backed candidates took seven of the seats and three went to independents.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/26/jeremy-corbyn-your-party-parliamentary-leader-zarah-sultana-leadership-committee-seat

Greens hail by-election victory as calls grow for Starmer to resign
His party’s winning candidate Hannah Spencer slammed a broken Britain where workers were “bled dry” to “line the pockets of billionaires,” after triumphing with as 12-point lead over nearest rivals Reform and knocking Labour into third place. ….
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/greens-hail-election-victory-calls-grow-starmer-resign

Greece’s Varoufakis Indicted Over Ecstasy Use 36 Years Ago
Varoufakis’ party, which goes by the acronym Mera25, accused the rightwing New Democracy party of targeting Varoufakis because “he speaks the truth”. “Although the Greek justice system’s stance on this case has provided much amusement to Greek society… this story is nonetheless dangerous,” a statement on Mera25’s website said.
https://novaramedia.com/2026/02/27/greeces-varoufakis-indicted-over-ecstasy-use-36-years-ago/

Local communities in Croatia oppose mega-farm project
Thousands of people protested against a poultry mega-farm project in Croatia’s SisaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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tybna

>>2707461
sultana is a bourgeois careerist like all the young british "left" types (see also the novara crew). corbyn would do well to get rid.

>>2707572
>>2707572
>sultana is a bourgeois careerist like all the young british "left" types (see also the novara crew). corbyn would do well to get rid.
<source? My mental defect

>>2707587
she also shills for neoliberal identitarianism "noooooo you cant criticize me because im le hecking wholesome chungus bame woman its not fair" yeah nah get rid
>source?
it's called an opinion uygha

>>2707572
I'm not a Sultana fan but calling her a bourgeois careerist in relation to Corbyn is nuts. He's literally prevented the party from seizing on several opportunities so far because the former Labour people he surrounds himself with are focused on wrecking the party and introducing bureaucratic procedures rather than attracting funds and proletarians to join. I have some respect in my heart for Corbyn considering what he's endured and how long he's been in the game but unc needs to take the backseat if this is going to go anywhere.



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Booker Ngesa Omole is the general secretary of the anti-revisionist Communist Party Marxist – Kenya and he literally got kidnapped a couple days ago by the pigs and is being tortured. Only last year a group of supposed revisionists (idk this is just what they say in their press release) invaded his home and tried to murder him with guns and military equipment handed to them by the state. The state are charging him with drugs smuggling or some bullshit. Despite this there is not a thread on leftypol about this!

https://x.com/BookerBiro/status/2026389137385767389
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>>2707856
>>we should allow people within organizing spaces to be distrusting of immigrants, racist, pro police, pro fed, because if not, we will chase the majority of workers away

I know a lot of people unironically believe this. The working class is largely reactionary, therefore, by us not being reactionary, we are adventuring beyond what the class is ready for, therefore…. adventurism.


Not anonymous Posted a selfie,

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>>2706248
I posted about it in the /africa/ general as soon as I found out. But in general people just don't keep up with African politics or the third world at large

Leftypollers care not about Africans.


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>>2707737
>modern struggle
>looks inside
>protesting and getting shot by cops



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The classical Marxist schema wherein the industrial proletariat forms the decisive vanguard of socialist revolution must be ruthlessly interrogated and superseded when confronted with the objective reality of advanced settler colonialism, parasitic racist imperialism, and the labor aristocracy that binds large swathes of the so-called "working class" to the reproduction of empire.

The settler working class in America which are predominantly white, but including layers of assimilated non-white labor is not, and cannot be, the leading revolutionary subject in the imperial core. This is not moralism or identity politics; it is materialist analysis rooted in the global division of labor, superprofits extracted from the Third World (and internal colonies), and the bribe of relative privilege that turns potential revolutionary classes into social chauvinists or passive beneficiaries of genocide and plunder.

First, we must consider the structure of imperialism as analyzed through a MLM lens informed by dependency/world-systems insights and the theory of the labor aristocracy. The U.S. is the primary pole of the First World empire, a non-productive, consumption-heavy formation sustained by the superexploitation of the global South and the ongoing primitive accumulation against internal colonies (New Afrika/Black nation, occupied Turtle Island/Indigenous nations, occupied Aztlán, etc.). The "wages" of American workers are not merely the fruit of their labor but a redistributed share of imperialist superprofits via crumbs, cheap commodities, home ownership on stolen land, and the ideological bribe of white supremacy/nationalist chauvinism. This creates a clear labor aristocracy whose immediate material interests align more with preserving the imperialist system than overthrowing it. The "white working class" is not exploited in the classical sense that drives revolutionary consciousness; it is co-opted, bought off, and invested in settler-colonial continuity.

Historical evidence abounds from the 1877 railroad strikes through the New Deal labor accords to the post-WWII suburban boom and deindustrialization's selective pain, white workers have repeatedly sided with empire against colonized peoples (e.g., anti-Black pogroms, support for wars of aggression, rejection of reparations or land return). Even in moments of economic distress, reactionary populism and fascist-adjacent MAGA-ism or its left variants tends to dominate rather than proper Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2708085

So, when a majority of white Americans support the police, that means communists should not side with black folk against the police? If a good chunk of low income workers whom are white are PRO ICE, should leftists not resist ICE? What if you're in a state where most of the working class is anti-union, do you tone your union speak down? What if you live in an area where most of the working class are transphobic/homphobic and there 300 trans and gay people, do you abandon them to be "more effective" in the town of 10k? What if most of the american working class don't believe in decrying the military, flag burning, or explicit anti-war militancy? Then do you tone it down, and integrate the celebration of american militarism into your leftism? Sounds like the politics of cowards, sheep, not lion. Just continuously base the praxis, and langauge upon what the mainstream views as acceptable; yup that will work alright, but not as revolutionary praxis, more so as COIN against revolutionary praxis. Maga communism is retarded. Anyone who believes that the class struggle needs to neuter itself in order to gain more influence, needs to jump off a high bridge.

>Blacks must be in charge!

>Oh how could those meanie whites accuse me being of black supremacist?

You think I'm saying BLACK LEADER RULE WHITE MAN. Go fucking read the thread or don't even speak you bitch ass mark

>>2708116
>when a majority of white Americans support the police
Majority of blacks vote democrat and support capitalism. Does that mean communists rail against blacks for being black? No, they criticize the belief and the individual person's reasoning, not the race of the person who holds the belief.
>Anyone who believes that the class struggle needs to neuter itself in order to gain more influence
There is a difference between attacking people based on race and compromising your ideals.
>Go fucking read the thread or don't even speak you bitch ass mark.
Ok Mr Bodies and Spaces, you really like to hide behind a lot of academese while attacking people for being fascist settlers if they don't agree immediately. That really doesn't help communicate what you are saying

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>>2708118

See >>2704539


>>Majority of blacks vote democrat and support capitalism. Does that mean communists rail against blacks for being black?

I'm sorry but this isn't making sense to me. You require more studying on Marxist theory in relation to the structure of race in American's colonial capitalism. BLACK PEOPLE DID NOT COLONIZE THE AMERICAS AND BUILD A COLONIAL STRUCTURE OF BLACK SUPREMACY THROUGH A NEW CAPITALIST WORLD, ON THE BACKS OF NON-BLACK LABOR. There is no "black supremacist" structure and reactionary force to attack in relation to the class struggle. So this comparison you give cannot be flipped in vice versa as an example.

just read books about this

>>There is a difference between attacking people based on race


This response again stems from individualist liberal perception on race and colonialism; it lacks a material analysis on these things. again, read please.


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>>2708116
You know black people aren't retarded faggots like your are and also want the police and law and order to exist

>>2708163
>>2708116
>>2708072
>>2708072
>>2707996
Sorry for seeming so mean, I wet my diapers and my Jewish master hasn't changed them yet



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Capitalism will end in a few decades.
I concluded this by playing a flash game called Oiligarchy which you should play for yourself and see the eco ending:
https://armorgames.com/play/2607/oiligarchy (Original)
https://www.hackedfreegames.com/game/3195/oiligarchy (Hacked/Cheats)

and by searching "when will the world run out of oil" on Google, which said:
<Based on current consumption rates and known reserves, the world is estimated to run out of economically accessible oil in approximately 50 years, or around 2052–2060.

And I once read this guy called Reza Negristani who wrote a book (Cyclonopedia: Complicity with Anonymous Materials) about how oil is capitalism and its sentient, like he was saying capitalism needs oil, also the west runs on oil and its obviously important to them. Lots of guys like Michael Parenti and Jacques Derrida and whatnot wrote big books on how the west invades for oil, fights for oil and like is living because of oil and stuff.

So yeah, there won't be an ecological collapse / doomsday. West should fall soon. Unless they use nukes for M.A.D. (Mutually Assured Destruction) like in one of the game endings.

To address some concerns:
>We're already past the point of no return, this ecological damage is irreversible, we're fucked.
No I'm pretty sure not, but if we are its like… why aren't you doing whatever you want if its your final days? Go.
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>>2706972
There will never be a fuel source like oil again, capitalism isn’t compatible with solar and wind (and neither is large scale industries at all)

>>2706976
Of course not, but large scale industries != capitalism. We already had capitalism with barely-above-artisanal levels of manual craftsmanship in England's nascent textile industry in the XVIII century. The only thing you need for capitalism is a small set of people with enough money to buy things and buy labour to then sell the result of labour+things for a bit above the cost and treat all of this as a private, non-social operation. They will begin to accumulate and pass the wealth through inheritance and begin the cycle all over again. My point is that ecological and/or technological catastrophes may very well preclude the current form of capitalism, but not capitalism itself. So I agree that running out of oil will be a once in a millenia opportunity for setting up a new set of rules for the material production of life, but we need to start thinking about the specifics right now because if we are not ready by then, inertia will make humanity fall back again to what they already are familiar with.

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>>2707060
Without large scale industry we cannot do communism, we’re gonna end up reverting to feudalism and slavery as the entire human population fights over the newly arable land in Northern Canada, Scandinavia, Alaska, and Siberia

>>2706976
>and neither is large scale industries at all
how are large scale industries incompatible with solar and wind? provided you have some hydro and nuclear it will be fine

>>2706972
energy prices will be skyrocketing before the collapse happens so there could easily be a socialist revolution then



 

What does leftypol think of Tolstoy?


The body was too short or empty.The body was too short or empty.The body was too short or empty.The body was too short or empty.
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>>2646147
Tolstoy late in life was basically a Slavic Quaker

Dostoyevskiy is a reactionary piece of shit and Western fascination with him annoys me endlessl

>>2646202
Bulgakov wrote proto-new-age shit

>>2646168
they do, aside from Ilf & Petrov, but they're really hard to read without the cultural context

t. Russian

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I like the movie.

>>2682075
>Dostoyevskiy is a reactionary piece of shit and Western fascination with him annoys me endlessl
i remember jordan peterson claiming he was the wisest man who lived.

>>2682265
Who cares what Jordan Fucking Peterson thinks

>>2682075
>Dostoyevskiy is a reactionary piece of shit and Western fascination with him annoys me endlessl
it's not just western. lenin expressed his annoyance at dosto fanboys. the truth is he was a good fuckin writer, and even in translation his writing is good. at some point you've just gotta accept that chuds can write banger novels every now and then.



 

Have there been any studies done deconstructing the left-to-right ("Saul-to-Paul") political conversion narrative that the right-wing loves to throw around?

I'm talking about people like former CPUSA members who turned state like Whittaker Chambers, Bella Dodd, and Louis Budenz; neocons like Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, and David Horowitz (rest in piss); or contemporary "conversion" stories like those of Abby Johnson. I'm obviously talking about Americans here but I'm sure you can name plenty of examples from other countries. What psychological factors cause someone to abandon leftism and fully embrace the right, and even worse, turn on their former comrades?

Is it simply the case that they upheld leftism as a dogma, so when their "god" died they found another god? Is it because they were always authoritarian assholes and embraced the right when the right gave them a better outlet for being authoritarian assholes? Was it because they found that the left was moving in a direction they didn't approve of, so they gradually became rightist? Or, using the narrative they themselves most often parrot, they felt "betrayed" by the left so in turn they betrayed the left?

Also, why do we rarely see any prominent right-wingers turning to the left?
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>>2699619
I found Bella Dodd’s great-grandniece from one of her mother’s Facebook posts where she said Bella Dodd was her great-aunt. I cyberstalked her from there and saw that her daughter is now an influencer. People need to be way more aware of how much info about themselves they put online.

>>2661687
See this is what people mean, like you can support Palestine without trying to connect two radically different issues, also the Palestinian resistence blueprint has been an objective failure more or less

>>2649156
>there was a trend of ex-Jacobins who flipped to the Holy Alliance against Napoleon
any specific examples of books about this?

This is precisely the trap that unfolds when one's praxis remains suspended in the realm of idealist abstraction rather than grounded materialist investigation. The settler colonial apparatus doesn't merely operate through the barrel of the gun, no it reproduces itself through the very same structural frameworks we deploy to critique it. Those who haven't undertaken the difficult work of excavating the material foundations of settler sovereignty the land-as-commodity, the juridical production of the Native and Black body as modern homo sacer, and the structural necessity of elimination for capital accumulation are susceptible to reactionary tendencies or grifts . Theres no shock they become susceptible to what I term reactionary interpellation. The far right doesn't contradict settler colonialism, you understand? It intensifies it, accelerates its contradictions, defends it. Without a grounded antagonistic positionality towards this, one's "radicalism" becomes mere aesthetic posturing, which won't hold up over the years.

Don't forget the identitarians, the liberal managers of white supremacy's symptoms. They treat race as cultural rather than structural, as discourse rather than as a relation to production. Their praxis inevitably gravitates toward the petite-bourgeois horizon because they've abandoned the class analytic that would reveal how white supremacy functions as a mode of colonial governance securing surplus populations and dividing the local proletariat.

Everyone here is saying MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY but the Occam's Razor answer is that the far right appeals, on a human level, to the same insecurities and frustrations as leftism. So, it's not weird at all to see a former anarchist become a fascist, a former Marxist-Leninist become a TradCath, you name it. I think it's weirder to see a former radical become a milquetoast liberal, like a former anarchist become a Republican.



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Which socialist countries could a NEET move to join the working class?

<As of 2023, approximately 21.7% of young people worldwide, aged 15 to 35, are classified as NEET, meaning they are not in education, employment, or training. This statistic highlights a significant global issue regarding youth engagement in productive activities.
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>>2705701
Neets and elites are both on the same train eating the same gravy. It's only different amounts. You are too afraid of being the former, and too eager to be the latter, to stop funding our unholy union.

>>2706918
Neets and elites. That rhymes

>>2705701
>How do NEETs not experience an existential dread
I do, but I also did when I was non-NEET, I just have better quality sleep now.

>>2660145
Nepal?

>>2705701
the vast majority of "neets" are incapacitated by serious mental health issues exacerbated by capitalism but fuck empathy because a random unemployed shartmerican on pol called me a wagecuck once amirite



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