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 No.1743238[Reply]

If we consider the capitalist state we see that during the epoch of commercial capitalism, at the dawn of its development, capitalism bore the mark of the state on its brow. State intervention flourished both externally and within the country, including the regulation of foreign trade, a system of premiums and every type of protectionism, the granting of privileges, etc. – such was the practice of mercantilism. The ensuing stage of capitalist development represented a complete negation of the mercantilist epoch. Industrial capitalism found its political expression in liberalism. Even the slightest intervention by state power in the “natural” course of economic life was considered a harmful experiment doomed to failure.

If liberalism and industrial capitalism were the negation of mercantilism and commercial capitalism, then imperialism, with finance capitalism as its basis, is the negation of the negation from the viewpoint of the developing functions of state power. The fact that recent tendencies of development are interpreted by some to be “vestiges” can be explained only by tradition, the inertia of thought, a failure to understand contemporary relations, and the projection of outmoded views from the pre-imperialist epoch into our own time. In reality, we have entered a new stage of development. With unprecedented force and on a scale never before observed in European history, the state is once again invading the sphere of economic relations. Insofar as we are speaking of society’s economic life, this growth of the state became possible thanks to an organizational process, which has strikingly unfolded since the final quarter of the past century.

But we must not assume that the organizational process has embraced the economy alone: its significance is much more general and profound. One could even say with a certain legitimacy that the bourgeoisie has not left a single corner of social life completely unorganized. […] every conceivable organization (the telegraph agencies, the press bureaus, the various associations of journalists, and, finally, entire newspaper trusts, which strictly control the production of bourgeois lies, etc.) adopts the honorable function of providing support to the “existing order.” Science also outgrew the condition of primitive disorganization long ago […] Bourgeois politics are also organized. Never before has there been such a close union of the bourgeois riffraff as there is today, in the epoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.1743239

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Now we must turn to a perfectly natural question – the role played by the workers and proletarian organizations.

Here there are two theoretical possibilities: either the workers’ organizations, like all the organizations of the bourgeoisie, grow into the general state organization and become a simple appendage of the state apparatus, or, alternatively, they outgrow the confines of the state and explode it from within, organizing their own state power (or dictatorship). The first route, taken by the yellow social democracy of the Guesdes, Plekhanovs, Scheidemanns, Hendersons, Brantings, and Company, is one of converting the revolutionary party of the proletariat into a subordinate mechanism of the imperialist state, into its “labor department”; the second route, that of Liebknecht, Hoglund, Maclean, Muranov, and other comrades, is the route of revolutionary social democracy. In the mass actions of the proletariat, in the struggle between different “streams” and the splits in the old social democracy, we are experiencing a general revolutionizing process. This process indicates that the second outcome is becoming increasingly probable and that the national-imperialist labor policy will be overcome by the international socialist revolution. The material basis for such an outcome is the differentiated influence of imperialist policy on the position of the bourgeoisie compared with that of the proletariat. So long as imperialism allowed only its “progressive side” to be seen (the “peaceful” expansion of pre-war times), imperialist attitudes necessarily grew up within the proletariat. But now imperialism has displayed its aggressive side; and the more it does so, the greater is the burden it imposes on the international proletariat. Whereas the imperialist bourgeoisie sees vital necessity in continuation of the imperialist policy, the proletariat sees an equal necessity in the destruction of imperialism, and of capitalist production along with it.

Any further development of the state organisms – before the socialist revolution – is possible only in the form of militaristic state capitalism. Centralization is becoming the centralization of a barracks. In the upper stratum of society a vile military clique is inevitably growing in strength, resulting in brutal drilling and bloody repression of the proletariat. On the other hand, we have already seen that any activity by the proletariat, under these conditions, is inevitably directed against statePost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 No.1742187[Reply]

>"For that, drones are best. Much of the job becomes intelligence; finding the guilty, finding their moments of exposure. Not easy, but once accomplished, boom. The drones keep getting faster and faster. The guilty often have defenses, but these can often be overwhelmed by numbers. A swarm of incoming drones the size of sparrows, moving at hundreds or even thousands of meters per second— these are hard to stop. The guilty died by the dozens in those years."
>Robinson, K. S. (2022). The Ministry for the Future. Orbit.

Direct action is now cheaper than ever. Tanks, planes, attack helicopters, and highly trained soldiers can be destroyed by a guy with a game pad and a drone. The Russo-Ukraine war is to drone warfare as WW2 was to aerial warfare. For the first time in history, autonomous and semi-autonomous drones have been decisive in a conventional war.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/01/russia-launched-90-drone-attacks-in-ukraine-in-early-hours-of-new-year
>"Russia marked the new year with the launch of a record 90 Shahed-type drones over Ukraine, as Vladimir Putin vowed to further intensify attacks after a Ukrainian strike on the south Russian city of Belgorod."

There haven't been any high profile assassinations of reactionaries using drones yet. It doesn't have to stay this way.

"The earth is not dying, it is being killed, and those who are killing it have names and addresses." - Utah Phillips
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 No.1742457

I was thinking about how suicide bombing was developed as a way for a more impoverished country, such as Iran, Lebanon or Palestine, to have a better advantage against a more powerful foe. The cost of course being a terrible waste of human lives.
Hasn't the AliExpress drone with bomb strapped to it basically overcome this tactic?

 No.1742462

>>1742453
3d printing maybe? If you're gonna go sci-fi, you might as well go that far.

Besides that, cash only and buying used from random people is the best bet right?

 No.1742480

>>1742462
im thinking ideally this character would give money to an otherwise uninvolved person who would buy it secondhand and pass it on to the original character, and then wait at least a few months. theres other concerns though, as far as the standard challenges of a character needing to know how to manufacture explosives safely and discreetly, and how to find space for a training montage to actually get good at using the drone without any record of having used it.

do consumer drones require any kind of internet connection, or is it a simple remote connection?

 No.1743104

>>1742480
>do consumer drones require any kind of internet connection, or is it a simple remote connection?
no, but the camera requires it, which is pretty crucial i'd say

 No.1743138

>>1742480
I also like writing fiction stories so i can give you suggestions on how to write the part where the main character builds explosives and finds components for the release mechanism. When is the novel coming out?



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Right-wing conservative parties - represents interests of failing bourgeoisie; favours protectionalism as result of inability to compete with foreign companies for domestic market or labour; wishes to dismantle social state in desperate attempt to squeeze as much surplus value out of workers as possible; use of state to suppress organized labour and prop its business up through tax cuts, subsidies, public tenders and blatant stealing of public funds; prefers to campaign of culture war issues to distract from its unpopular economic policies, when talking about economy uses vague populist rhetoric rather than presenting actual economic plans; officially anti-immigration but effectively pro-immigration + pro-marginalisation as that means exploitable labour force

Liberal right-wing parties - represents successful bourgeoisie and high-payed professionals; in favour of global integration as it means access to foreign markets, freedom of travel and work abroad; socially progressive by virtue of high education and lack of anxiety about social change, favours non-interventionalist economy as they are doing just fine on markets terms; minimal social state just to keep social stability but with emphasis on education as they themselves are highly educated and rely on high-skill labour force for their business;

Social-democratic parties - represents workers (particularly those employed in state enterprises), state bureaucracy and those citizens most dependent on social services (seniors and the poor); ambiguous stance on culture issues, orients itself towards public opinions; favours state interventions in the economy and welfare state to maintain popularity while simultaneously cooperating with large private interests (as those create jobs, taxes, and when antagonized can use their massive economic power to undermine the party)

Far-left parties - membership composed mostly out of old communist hard-liners and small amount of young (20s) people, with very little in between (i.e. people with economic security); young people tend to be highly educated but unable to secure professional jobs appropriate for their education; old ones are similar to social-democrats, that being retirees, labour unionists, state employees, but differs in lack of popularity among higher level bureaucrats; advocates state ownership of key sectors of economy, protectionalism, welfare state; ambiguous on cultural issues (neither actively hostile nor openly supportive ofPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.1742948

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You're correct except on your insistence that socdems still support the welfare state. They all sold out. It's only rhetoric.

 No.1742986

>>1742948
Which begs the question, why is there a tendency among social-democratic parties to sell out? As far as I know it doesnt secure them electoral gains (i.e. additional funding and popularity among higher strata do not make up for loss of prole support). Is it more related to party structure, with its leadership sort of bourgenoising, becoming corrupt or loosing touch with the base?

 No.1743007

>>1742986
On second though, the answer probably is that their reformist promises are impossible to deliver on within constrains of current economic situation. Expanding social state, empowering labour, public projects construction, all of that is simply too expensive to do without causing capital flight and unemployment. As such they pivot right because the rich are the only group whose interests can be successfully represented.

 No.1743094

>>1742986
I would say yes it's related to party leadership becoming fat off their positions and comfortable, they're living large in the current system and don't really want to change it

 No.1743101

>>1742948
here is a picture of the PS's founder talking with Pétain… Socdems moment



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 No.1737440[Reply]

What would happen if lets say hypothetically, in an alternate universe, a thermobaric weapon was used exclusively on the headquarters of Blackrock Inc. at 50 Hudson Yards, New York City. What would be the consequences of this on the American and Global economy?
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 No.1738685

They get insurance money and come back around with bullshit info about people's rents.

 No.1738997

>what are global data backups
>what are property rights
basically nothing but a few million deaths and billions of dollars in damage due to the obliteration of new york.

 No.1739827

>>1738997
worth it

 No.1743086

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>>1737461
TNO reference?

 No.1743087

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They'd just rebuild it.

/thread



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 No.1734641[Reply]

"A new poll in the 20 richest countries shows that 74 percent of the very rich people there support higher taxes on wealth to help address the cost-of-living crisis and improve public services.

There’s a group called Patriotic Millionaires, which campaigns against inequality. A survey conducted for them involved 2,300 individuals who hold $1 million-plus in investible assets. Specifically, 58 percent of the respondents supported a 2 percent wealth tax on people owning more than $10 million. And 54 percent thought that extreme wealth was a threat to democracy.

“This poll seems to show that the whole world, including the richest people, want to tax the super-rich,” remarked British farmer-turned-entrepreneur Guy Singh-Watson. The Guardian quoted him as asking, “So where on Earth is the leadership from our elected representatives who have the power to actually do it?”

“We, the very richest,” he added, “are sick and tired of inaction, so it’s hardly surprising that working people, at the sharp end of our rigged economies, have lost patience.”"

www.bulatlat.com/2024/01/21/call-to-tax-the-very-richest-arises-from-their-own-ranks
patrioticmillionaires.org
americanagenda.com

>Working people can have the economy they want, but they have to demand it.


>Working people are the largest, most powerful constituency in America. They have the power to demand an economy that meets their needs first, before another dime flows into the pocket of a billionaire. The Great Economy Project takes participants on a deep dive into exactly how politicians of both parties have rigged the economy in favor of the rich and what working people can do to fix it.

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 No.1741536

>>1734641
Segments of the bourgeoisie are absolutely shitting their pants now that the proletariat are massive in number, connected on a global scale by instant communication technologies now required for modern capitalism, immense wealth inequality, and rising militancy and hatred of workers for their class

They likely realize the options are either trying to re-introduce robust welfare systems or face the possibility of post-capitalism within their lifetime

 No.1741537

>>1734853
> Just because we supposedly live in a bourgeois state doesn’t mean the bourgeoise directly have control of it and also doesn’t mean they can actually wield that power directly it’s way more complicated than so called Marxists make it seem
This is, in fact, exactly the case, the strength of the bourgeoisie state is specifically that it is not directly wielded by said class, the bourgeois state and bourgeois class exist in a dialectical relationship to one another, one feeds the other and vice-versa, under feudalism the feudal state and the nobility were one and the same, the King was essentially the biggest landholder, the capitalist state is intentionally abstracted away from its ruling class, likely because the capitalist state mutated out of the feudal state which itself had helped create capitalism as we know it.

 No.1742667

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>>1734641
>This year's Davos theme was "rebuilding trust"
Still haven't gotten over that

 No.1742668

>>1734641
But Brietbart told me this billionaires are all communist

 No.1743081

>>1742667
You misunderstand.
Its them saying they need to rebuild trust in their slaves.



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 No.1741488[Reply]

The word imperialism echoes around the world. All openly hostile capitalist states accuse eachother of imperialist policy. All organizations stand against imperialism, in theory. There is rarely anyone who disagrees with the idea, that imperialism is… bad.

But ignoring for a moment that capitalist antiimperialism is a paradox, there are two noticable tendencies among socialists I've met when it comes to imperialism.
i) Imperialism is the policy and domination by the United States in conjuction with other west European states, Japan, SK etc. of the developing world.
ii) Imperialism is a state of war between capitalist states.

While point (ii) can be argued is part of imperialism, and is not a difficult idea to dispell, point (i) will fucking ruin us. It's blatant Kautskyism - it's the theory of superimperialism just in a different form. The idea of capitalist states working together is nonsense - the capitalist economy cannot overcome the national economy. It's this contradictory process wherein every bourgeois wants to at the same time save his local national market from other capitalist powers and he wants to exploit other markets. Moments of peace don't come from willing cooperation, but because the once strong English or French or German bourgeoisie steps in an opportunistic alliance with the American state to secure its position as the compradors to the Great Shaytan. There is no cooperation here, just subjugation. This position is also in the background of the argument that neither Russia nor China are imperialist powers, because they don't do imperialism like the US does. Here's Lenin on what imperialism is:

(1) the concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life;
(2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation, on the basis of this “finance capital,” of a financial oligarchy;
(3) the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities acquires exceptional importance;
(4) the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among themselves and
(5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completed.

How is this a US only phenomen? Only Allah would know. How do we battle against this Kautskyite revisionism?
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 No.1742730

>>1742728
>>1742703
Also, hilarious copium by porkies

>The sale has not only brought in more than 100 billion yuan but also much publicity for President Xi Jinping’s “determination” to reform the state sector. Fu and Sinopec are now the banner carriers for Xi’s reform. That’s a much needed political asset if Fu is to push further ahead.


<g-guys, it's just the first step towards capitalism, g-guys! China is totally going to privatize everything, they just have to sugarcoat it all in communist colors for ideological reasons, but they are totally becoming capitalist!

 No.1742735

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>>1742703
Holy shit

>Reform and the potential partial privatisation of China’s state-owned enterprises has been slow since the idea was first introduced in 2013, but debate is now raging about the outlook for broader changes, with the possibility that the world’s largest manufacturer of residential air conditioners could come under the control of the private sector.


Woah, why are we never talking about how largest residential air conditioner producer in the world is a SOE? You fucking idiots

Even more hilarious is the fact that 15% share sale - under the same scheme of "everyone who has a direct interest in this SOE's operation should get onto the board of directors" like here >>1742728 - is converted into "could come under the control of the private sector". Yah, 15% share sold to porkies will result in the state giving all power to the 15% controllers! Just like under capitalism in Europe or America!

 No.1742786

>>1742202
I havent seen the net flow on that webside, would spare me the bother of having to count manually, but my data checks out with data from separate inflow and outflow tables, so idk if they used updated (or outdated) data on their net table or the calculation is more complex than simple subtraction.
One way or the other, does not really matter, the point of my original post was to demonstrate that issue of imperialism cant be reduced to foreign investment.

 No.1742792

>>1742786
It's still a decent metric. It does reflect the contradiction between periphery and core, broadly at least

 No.1742832

>>1742792
If we want to stick to foreign investment, I think better metric than a net flow would be long term outward flow from country as % of total world investment, which would roughly describe overall exploitation of the world by that country, right?
Other important factor when we talk about imperialism should be concentration of investment. For example country A can have its portfolio spread thinly over entire world, which doesnt really bestow upon it ability to exercise influence over any other foreign country, or thickly in a handful of countries, representing significant % of their economy, thus giving country A great power over economical and political matters.



 No.1741982[Reply]

Kerem Shalom crossing: Israeli protesters hold up aid trucks to Gaza
Demonstrators, including families of hostages still held in Gaza, waved Israeli flags at a key crossing and chanted against "aiding the enemy". The protesters say they are demanding no aid for Gaza until all of the hostages are released. This comes despite a US demand that aid to civilians in Gaza be allowed to enter "without interruption". For a third consecutive day, the protesters descended on the Kerem Shalom border crossing between Israel and Gaza to try to block humanitarian aid from entering the enclave.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68103641

Palestinians slam suspension of UNRWA funding by some Western nations
Italy, Australia, Canada and the United States said they would halt funding to the agency, while European Union foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said the 27-member bloc would “assess further steps and draw lessons based on the result of the full and comprehensive investigation”. The United Kingdom, Finland and the Netherlands also joined the growing list of countries to pause financial aid to the UN agency, whose facilities where displaced Palestinians sought shelter have been repeatedly attacked in Israeli air raids.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/27/palestinians-slam-suspension-of-unrwa-funding-by-some-western-nations
https://archive.is/cwVm7

Palestine slams Peru for allowing citizens to fight alongside Israel in Gaza
The Palestinian Foreign Ministry criticized Peru on Saturday for allowing its citizens to fight with the Israeli army in its war on Gaza, Anadolu Agency reports. This statement followed Peru’s condolences for a soldier killed during the war.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240127-palestine-slams-peru-for-allowing-citizens-to-fight-alongside-israel-in-gaza/

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 No.1742004

Trader Joe’s Follows SpaceX in Arguing US Labor Board Is Unconstitutional
“The structure and organization of the National Labor Relations Board and the agency’s administrative law judges is unconstitutional,” the company’s attorney Christopher Murphy said, according to a transcript of the proceeding that Bloomberg News obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request. Trader Joe’s argument echoes that of Musk’s aerospace company, which filed a lawsuit Jan. 4 arguing that an NLRB case against it should be put on hold because the agency’s structure violates the “separation of powers” established in the US Constitution.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-26/trader-joe-s-follows-spacex-in-arguing-nlrb-is-unconstitutional
https://archive.is/ImGUr

Grocery workers union reacts to proposed Kroger and Albertson's merger timeline
In a press conference Friday morning, union workers say they are continuing to fight this merger, as they have since October 2023. They say merging the two companies will create less competition in the grocery industry, creating more problems. These problems include the leading of higher prices for customers, workers losing their jobs and farmers and suppliers not being able to sell their products.
https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/grocery-worker-union-gives-update-proposed-kroger-albertsons-merger-timeline/

US hotel workers still fighting for basic benefits after ‘hot labor summer’
Last year was a big year for the US labor movement with historic wins and gains for workers at UPS, automakers, and for writers and actors in Hollywood. But for thousands of hotel workers, the majority of whom are Latina women from immigrant communities, their fight has continued into 2024 without garnering the same amount of public attention.
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 No.1742018

On the Anniversary of the Departure of its Founder, Dr. George Habash: PFLP Statement
The Popular Front recalls the high ideas and clear, radical revolutionary positions. On the sixteenth anniversary of the passing of the great national, pan-Arab, and international leader, Dr. George Habash, founder of the Arab Nationalist Movement and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the Front salutes the inspiring spirit of this leader, one of the most prominent figures of the Arab and global liberation movement, and the fighters of the Palestinian national movement throughout its history. On this occasion, the Front expresses its pride and honor in its exceptional and revolutionary founding leader, who lived and died fighting for Palestine, the dignity of the Arab nation, and its unity, and who was a staunch defender of the rights of refugees, workers, the poor, and the strugglers, supporting the causes of the Arab nation, and the liberation movements in the world against imperialism and zionism, and the forces of colonization. As the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine commemorates the anniversary of its founding leader, it remembers the lofty principles he established throughout his life, which have become beacons and thawabet guiding us and shape the outlines of our national struggle.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/post/2024/01/27/on-the-anniversary-of-the-departure-of-its-founder-dr-george-habash-pflp-statement/

Palestine, platitudes and silence
‘In the end we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.’
Martin Luther King Jr. It is no secret that the history of Palestinian resistance is deeply intertwined with the socialist movement. As anti-imperialism and anti-colonialism are basic principles, socialists have always opposed the occupation of Palestine by both Britain and Israel. Anarchist-Communists are part of the broader socialist movement and said principles are just as, if not more, deeply embedded in the tradition.1 However, in the face of the latest barbarity unleashed by Israel upon the Palestinian population, two anarchist-communist organisations in Europe have taken stances that amount to either passivity or tacit endorsement of genPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.1742021

>>1742004
>Trader Joe’s Follows SpaceX in Arguing US Labor Board Is Unconstitutional

Workers need to put the fear of god back into their bosses

 No.1742437

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Thanks News Anon

 No.1742828

>>1742021
It seems american porky has absolutely no fear of the proletariat. Not even a hint of it.



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 No.1742618[Reply]

Whenever anyone tells you "b-but academia agrees that Stalin killed 700k people in 1937-38 and Soviets lost to famine in 1932-33 7 million people" just remind them that academics are fucking stupid holy shit

<When professors undertake to refute socialism, you don't know what to be more surprised at, their stupidity or their ignorance or their bad faith…The personal characteristics of modern professors are such that even extremely stupid people can be found among them…


http://revolucia.ru/lenin24_361.html

Mr. liberal Professor Tugan-Baranovsky went on a campaign against socialism. This time, he approached the issue not from the political and economic side, but from the side of general arguments about equality (maybe these general arguments seemed to the professor more suitable for religious and philosophical interviews at which he spoke?).

"If we take socialism," G. Tugan proclaimed, "not as an economic theory, but as a life ideal, then, undoubtedly, it is connected with the ideal of equality, but equality is a concept… it is not deducible from experience and reason."

Here is the reasoning of a liberal scientist, repeating incredibly hackneyed and worn-out arguments: they say, experience and reason clearly show that people are not equal, and socialism bases its ideal on equality. So, socialism, you see, is an absurdity, contradicts experience and reason, and so on!

Mr. Tugan repeats the old reactionary trick: first pervert socialism by attributing absurdity to it, and then triumphantly refute absurdities! When it is said that experience and reason show that people are not equal, then equality means equality of abilities or the similarity of physical strength and mental abilities of people.

It goes without saying that in this sense people are not equal. No reasonable person and no Socialist forgets this. Such equality has nothing to do with socialism alone. If Mr. Tugan does not know how to think at all, then at least he knows how to read and, having taken the famous work of one of the founders of scientific socialism, Friedrich Engels, against Düring, Mr. Tugan could read there a special explanation that by equality in the field of economics it is stupid to understand anything other than the destruction of classes. But when the professors undertake to refute Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.1742753

>>1742748
OP is just a hundred-year-old copypasta without any fresh insight given or discussion prompted. This thread deserves nothing more.

 No.1742759

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>>1742748
True. That's why I posted the bait. Libtards will always seethe at Communist China

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>>1742759
>im just pretending to be retarded bait

 No.1742765

>>1742740
Zionist spotted.

 No.1742766

>>1742762
i am not pretending. I only post the truth, to bait liberals. I literally say, "China is Communist", and at least a few liberals get mad.



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 No.1742447[Reply]

The supposedly left-wing desire to obsess over the "racist, settler-colonialist British Supremacy" of the British state is a way to obscure how the conflict is connected to capitalism, specifically, how it emerges from the failures of capitalist politics. What the so-called left has managed to achieve through their exhortation to focus on the plight of the Irish people is to transform empathy for suffering into a thought-terminating cliche, wielding it as a a blunt instrument of censorship, and at the expense of the very people who they claim to have empathy for. In true Orwellian fashion, they have managed to reconcile their empathy for Irish suffering with unwavering support for IRA, free from any cognitive dissonance.

The extreme rhetoric and spectacular protests of the contemporary left is little more than a means of pressuring mainstream capitalist politicians, and even the desire to "defund England” (a policy that far-right British people also support) is likely just a way to scrub away the issue of England/Ireland in U.S. politics. Ultimately, their goal is not to support the liberation of the Irish people, but to be “on the right side of history", to wield moral authority over others by appearing to side with the most vulnerable belligerents. They perversely enjoy the fact that Irish people will continue to be slaughtered, proudly parading the numbers of dead so that their "progressive" mode of politics can remain relevant.

But the greatest crime that the contemporary left commits is to tell people that they can be petty-bourgeois radicals, nationalists and fundamentalists, yet also be progressive - that socialism is unnecessary for the cause of progress and justice. The post-colonial world is the history of peoples living together but being shoehorned into nation-states. This is the outcome of the vision of the League of Nations and of the United Nations; it is a world of nation-states, and therefore a world of widespread national repression. There is no way that the nation-states which emerged from decolonization can be accepted as progressive or liberatory in the socialist sense, and the reason why the Soviet Union refused to join the League of Nations in the first place was to reject this very vision of a world of nation-states.

How we should interpret the England-IRA war is not as a noble struggle for liberation against the forces of oppression, but as a capitalist political negotiation through violence. The goal of Post too long. Click here to view the full text.(humorous bait but you gotta go)
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>>1742447
This is just like the other bait thread

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Like it or not, England produces a ton of technology that would be very useful in the building of any future socialism. Remove Anglos and you would essentially have a Year Zero scenario where you'd have to replicate that historical progress from scratch.

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>>1742478
retard

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>>1742481

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bri’ish



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Thought I'd make a thread about this because it's very interesting and rarely talked about.

The microstate of San Marino, which has a very unique very classical-republican form of government in which a "captains regent" is elected every 6 months of two opposing political parties that act as heads of state, became the only western-european communist nation in 1945 when the Sammarinese Communist Party and Sammarinese Socialist Party governed the nation in a coalition, previously it had been led by a fascist party similar to ᴉuᴉlossnWs.

When the Eastern Bloc was established, some of the deputys of the Socialist Party left, creating a constitutional crisis.
>The Christian Democratic deputies refused to attend session; instead, they occupied a factory in Rovereta and set up a provisional government there. The Italian and U.S. government pledged support to the provisional government, whilst the communist-socialist coalition (with support of Italian communists) sought to resist the attempt to establish a provisional government.

The provisional government sadly won, even after the Communists attempted a coup in 1957. They were excluded from the new coalition government.
In 1978 the Communists returned to government. This made San Marino in 1978 the only country in Western Europe with a Communist Party as a participant in a governing coalition with social democrats. In 1986, a corruption scandal outsted the social democrats, and the communists had to rule alongside the Christian Democrats until 1992.

After the fall of the Soviet Union, the communist party dispanded and has been replaced by democratic socialist parties. There are no communist movements left in San Marino today.
I can't find any infomation on how this communist country was governed, or how it progressed during its time.
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>>1741773
You're welcome!

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>>1741561
>Coincidentally, he has now a new house, a new job and three, new hunting rifles!
It drives me insane the things people do for always the smallest bribes.

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The powers that be fear the revived Soviet San Marino

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>>1741841
Reactionaries are paper tigers that fear socialism even in its smallest form.



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