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Can someone give me non-bullshit explanation of how exactly Western PROLETARIAT benefits from imperialism?

The West exported their investments and know-how and helped in the industrialization of the third world. Not just China, but also SEA, Asian tigers, India, Brazil, Poland, Malaysia etc. This resulted in the exact opposite of what happened in colonialism. The Western industries were hollowed out this time, and outsourced to the third world. Now sure, the Western bourgie benefited from this, but the money didnt trickle down much. That's why in the 1970s you could support a family and live a decent life doing a simple blue collar job and now you cant. So where exactly did the Western PROLETARIAT benefit from this imperialism?
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>>2555972
good post. too bad it got ignored by the only two pseuds to reply.

>>2549625
lol

"settler-colonialism" (a nonsense term btw) won in the US. natives, Hispanics, AAs, etc have all been molded into the american identity and class structure of capitalism. settler colonialism stopped a century ago when the frontier closed. we are no more "settler" than the UK is

settler colonialism just describes all conquest throughout all human history. the idea of a "settler" has little distinction in class relations (as it currently used to mean white people). we just already have a word that better describes the process described in SC, imperialism

>>2615435
>"settler-colonialism" (a nonsense term btw) won in the US.
Do you support zionism? If not, why.

>>2615435
Settlerism continues by maintaining a perpetual underclass whom can be displaced whenever whitoids need to move somewhere en masse

>>2615747
>jew shit out of nowhere
try actually reading the post

>>2615760
>what if we described the proletariat but made it based around race
you are retarded



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What even is the point of this shit anymore? The great turdworld cope that China, Russia, India and maybe Turkey and Brazil is gonna team up into an anti imperialist avenger and destroy the Epsteinian McWorld AmeriKKKa imposed upon us has been shattered to pieces, none of these guys do anything to defend Iran when the Iranians were bombed by the "Israelis", Russia is playing footsy with the US and India and China are more focused with exploiting their neighbours than confronting blatant American overreach under Trump. Any response that does exist is mostly scattered and reactive (i.e buying gold to protect from Fed interest rates) rather than proactive (i.e doing currency swaps and bond liquidation to harm the greenback).
In absence of any hope in changing the global world order i have seen third worldists now retreating and openly defending national bourgeoisie in the name of anti imperialism (such as Korotaev defending Ukrainian oligarchs as barrier against US investments, etc) and it's like …. We are against imperialism not just because we hate the US. We are against the US because American imperialism encouraged corruption and extractivism in the Third World, while American backed Bourgeois organizations crack down on labour rights world wide. Playing defense for corrupt and extractivist oligarchs in the third world in the name of building productive forces, that just undercut the reason why so many people became anti imperialist in the first place.
And as global crises started to ramp up, with metabolic drift and climate change ruining shit, the old rhetorics of building productive capability and bourgeois nationalism is just not gonna be relevant for long. This whole thing is a dead end politically.
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>>2615002
If you look at the complication rates that unborn children and their mothers face in the third world, then unironically yes Lmao

>>2614984
nah ur definitely schizo sorry lol youve been at this for months and every time people tell you that isn't third worldism you just do it again

like you have lumped marxism-leninism anti-imperialism and mao-zedong-thought into "third worldism" and none of those tendencies are third worldist they literally mainstream communism. third worldists as they exist are marxist-leninist-maoist and in the phillipines and india they are actually mega based.

"third worldist" westerners on twitter are retards but that isn't even what you are talking about, again, your problem is just with mainstream communism. maybe the real problem is that you also dont understand basic marxism?

>>2592128
>When people here complain about third worldism they are usually complaining about very straightforward Leninism, something to keep in mind
TRUKE

>>2615405
If you can't tell he's not being very serious you might be retarded as well, or at least some kind of autist

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yet another example of a post that is NOT pro-settler, pro-colonial, or pro-imperialist being responded to as if it is. This is what trolls do. It has nothing to do with actual anti imperialism. it is cointelpro derail meant to breakdown communication on the board.

>>2615608
> every time people tell you that isn't third worldism
i don't think it's third worldism. i've been clear it has nothing to do with actual anti imperialism. TWister is just pseudo-third-worldist trolls literally twisting words on here as ragebait. i thought that was clear.

I'm not OP btw.



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How can you bd a leftist thsts agaisnt ai? Ai is the best thing that has happened to leftism since the great depression er. On the one hand its accelerationist on the other hand it actually makes workers democracy possible for the first time realistically.
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I'm not against or for AI, I think that we have more pressing issues (continuing to advance leftism, waking more people up to wealth inequality, etc) that are a pressing concern.

This is not to say that for-profit industries raping the earth in the name of profit is acceptable, it isn't and it never will be.

I always kinda just saw ai as a nothing machine crafted by the bourgeoisie to be used by petty bourgeois to replace real workers

>>2615685
You deserve to lose your job and access to a wage and become de-proleterianized into a potentially homeless person or suffer from malnutrition? I think you should reconsider your choice of words here. Sure, it's more so that the worker deserves to not have to do the labor anymore, not that they "deserve to get replaced by a machine because there is nothing special about them". Sounds like you are speaking like a capitalist apologist, this is not a capitalist board.

>>2615684
>LLMs are replacing "real workers"
such as……………………………………………?

>>2615687
the petit bourgeois dont become homeless when losing their class status, they become proletarians lmao



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Hondurans protest Asfura’s election, demand full vote recount
Thousands of Hondurans converged on the National Electoral Council headquarters in Tegucigalpa on Friday night, protesting the proclamation of right-wing candidate Nasry Asfura as president-elect and demanding a full recount of ballots to ensure the legitimacy of the November 30 election results.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/honduras-protest-recount-nasry-asfura/

Brazilian judge puts coup plot convicts under house arrest after former police commander flees
Silvinei Vasques, the former director of Brazil’s Federal Highway Police, was extradited to Brazil on Friday night, after he had secretly entered Paraguay and attempted to board a flight to El Salvador using Paraguayan documents. According to Brazilian police, Vasques tore off his ankle monitor on Thursday and drove to Paraguay in a rental car.
https://apnews.com/article/brazil-coup-plot-house-arrests-5b74f4b78ecf7f802c62434f38f128a3

Milei eyes 'mattress dollars' as 'fiscal innocence' bill wins approval
Under the new framework, which applies only to taxpayers with assets of up to 10 billion pesos, participants will not be required to report changes in their wealth, nor will their spending be monitored. The ARCA tax and customs revenue agency will levy income tax solely on declared income, regardless of any increase in assets, which will not be scrutinised.
https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argentina/milei-eyes-mattress-dollars-as-fiscal-innocence-bill-wins-approval.phtml

Ukraine's anti-corruption agency attempts raid of parliament in new graft probe
Ukraine’s anti-corruption agency said on Saturday that security services were blocking its attempt to raid parliament, as investigators alleged that sitting MPs were implicated in a new graft probe. The probe comes at a delicate time for President Volodymyr Zelensky, as he seeks better terms for Ukraine in US-brokered peace taPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Vermont’s climate superfund law pushes forward as federal lawsuits seek to block it
With a history of public service dating back to the 1990s, Minter was tapped in September to be the program manager for the state’s new Climate Superfund Act. That legislation, overshadowed by a pair of federal lawsuits seeking to dismantle the law, seeks to hold major oil companies accountable for their pollution. Now, Minter is pushing the law forward while the courts consider whether the state law will survive. On Monday, the federal government again asked the courts to void the law.
https://apnews.com/article/vermont-sue-minter-chris-van-hollen-climate-change-industry-regulation-2e92da784fbacc1b94b20a7711de8495

New law means home insurers can stop covering wildfires in Nevada. Could California follow suit?
Passed this fall by the Nevada legislature, the law clarifies that insurers in the state will be allowed to remove coverage for wildfires from their policies. It also authorizes insurers to offer policies that only cover damage from wildfire. Nevada, unlike California, has no FAIR Plan equivalent already doing this. Experts said California won’t be following suit anytime soon. But in some ways, homeowners in the state are already facing a similar landscape.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/california-wildfires/article/nevada-wildfire-home-insurance-21250875.php
https://archive.ph/G8ee4

Mayor Adams looks to veto roughly 20 more NYC Council bills on key issues: sources
Among the measures the mayor is seen as likely to veto is a bill that would prohibit federal immigration authorities from maintaining offices for any purposes on city Department of Correction property, an issue that has become especially fraught amid the Trump administration’s hardline crackdown on undocumented New Yorkers. Other bills facing likely vetoes include ones that would: Grant more street vending licenses Prohibit for-hire vehicle companies like Uber from deactivating drivers without caPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Epstein and the Clintons: As Hillary Launched Presidential Campaign, Epstein Feared Exposure
Since Jeffrey Epstein’s second arrest in 2019, the Clintons have spent considerable effort distancing themselves from the enigmatic financier, and they are currently fending off House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer, who threatened contempt proceedings after the political power couple refused to testify this week regarding their relationship to Epstein. Epstein first came into public view after accompanying former President Bill Clinton on a 2002 tour of Africa, aboard Epstein’s infamous Boeing 727 plane, later dubbed “Lolita Express.” Abundant photos from that Africa trip—with Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker—have just been released by the Justice Department. Through a spokesperson, Bill Clinton has acknowledged traveling on Epstein’s jet during a humanitarian tour of Africa in 2002, but has said he knew nothing of Epstein’s crimes, never visited Epstein’s properties, and ended contact in 2005. In a Justice Department interview in July 2025, Ghislaine Maxwell downplayed Epstein’s connection to the former president, telling Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, “President Clinton was my friend, not Epstein’s friend.” Yet as Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign ramped up, it was Epstein looking to duck the Clintons. Epstein was facing increasingly dire legal consequences in South Florida, stemming from his years-long sexual exploitation of young women and girls. The glare of a presidential campaign risked unraveling what Epstein and his friend and ally Ghislaine Maxwell had so effectively constructed over the years, as they were increasingly associated with the spectacle of “Clintonworld.” In May 2007, the news media drove a scandal around the relationship between Hillary Clinton and Vinod Gupta, an Indian technology executive accused of corrupt dealings with the Clintons related to inflated consulting fees and travel on his company’s jet. In a May 26 email, four months before signing his “sweetheart deal” to avoid federal sex trafficking charges, Epstein predicted to Maxwell that Clinton’s opponents would “attack her ‘friends’ in any way they can,” and he warned her that Clinton’s presidential run could bring unwanted attention to Maxwell. He wrote to Maxwell, “you can see the papers are starting on hillary ‘friends’ Vin gupta,” he wrote, adding, “I think you are better off, not having your name associated.”
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tybna



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Hello!

I want to preface this by saying I subscribe to Sorelian and Corporate statist thought. I'm really interested in political economy, however, and so out of curiosity, what are the political economics and labor organization theorized by Maoism, Kampuchean and Juche?

I figured it'd be best to ask it here, since it wouldn't be fair to not give you guys a chance. Thanks in advance and forgive the shitty drawing, I'm posting from an xbox




 

I think we live in a timeline where Palestine was lost from the very beginning.
What needed to happen in the past, to prevent the Zionist entity from coming into being?

I came up with a few theories:
1. Forced assimilation of Jews of in eastern Europe by the Soviets.
2. Alternative Jewish homeland in Crimea.

Option 1 is the preferable option because option 2 still creates a potentially ethnic strife with the native ethnic Crimeans.


Share your alternative history theories where Zionism is prevented.
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>>2615437
>2. Alternative Jewish homeland in Crimea.
make it in germany

>>2615481
East Prussia was the obvious choice.

This is Chomsky talking about the PLO in the early 90s. (Yeah, I know, but still.)

>Well, you know, I’ve always thought that the P.L.O. is the most corrupt and incompetent Third World movement I’ve ever seen. I mean, they’ve presented themselves all these years as, you know, revolutionaries waving around guns, Marx, etc.—but they’re basically conservative nationalists, and they always were conservative nationalists: the rest was all pretense.


>In fact, part of the reason for the failure of the whole Palestinian cause is that the P.L.O. is the only Third World leadership I’ve ever seen that didn’t try to stimulate or support—or even help—any kind of international solidarity group. Even the North Koreans, crazy as they are, have made efforts to try to get popular support in the United States. But the Palestinian lead- ership never did. And it’s not because they weren’t told that it would be a good idea—I mean, there were people like, say, Ed Said [Palestinian- American professor], who were trying to get them to do that for years, and I was even involved in it myself. But they just couldn’t hear it. Their conception of the way politics works is that it’s arranged by rich guys sitting in back rooms who work out deals together, and the population’s irrelevant. They haven’t the slightest conception of the way a democratic system functions. So while it’s true we don’t have like a stellar democracy in the United States, what the population thinks and does makes a difference here—a big difference—and there are mechanisms to influence things. But the P.L.O. leadership has just never understood that.


>The extent of this is really astonishing, actually. Just to give you one example of it, back in the early 1980s…


>Well, there was an approach to the P.L.O. about all of this—and incidentally, the P.L.O. had tons of money. I mean, part of their problem was that they were way too rich for their own good: they had a ton of money because the rich Arab states were trying to buy them off so they wouldn’t cause them any trouble. So you know, Arafat was able to broker billion-dollar loans to Hungary, and all this kind of crazy business. But anyway, the P.L.O. had tons of money, and there was a proposal to try to get them just to purchase books—like, say, Yermiya’s book—and send them to libraries so the book would be in Ameri
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>>2615518
<During the 1970s, in the U.S., you had close relationships with Edward Said and Eqbal Ahmad.

>Yes, we were very close friends. With Edward the relationship was mostly personal, but also Middle East–related. With Eqbal there were many other things, too, since he was very active on many issues: Vietnam, Central America, issues of imperial oppression and domination. It was through them, especially Edward, that I came to have some direct experience of the PLO.


<I understand that you were involved in attempts to explain to high-level PLO officials what might be more effective ways of conveying their message in the U.S.


>Yes, well, I've never actually written or talked about that, except privately . . .


<I thought these encounters might be revealing in terms of the movement and how it operated.


>Well, yes, I do think they were quite telling. But they had so many problems that I didn't want to embarrass them further. Ed [Said] would set up these meetings in New York when senior PLO types would be in town for the UN. This was roughly in the late 1970s, 1980. Ed's idea was to get them to listen to people who were sympathetic to the Palestinians but critical of their policies. So I was there, Ed, and Alex Erlich, a friend who taught Russian history at Columbia who was a real old-fashioned Bundist, a Marxist, anti-Zionist, a very honest guy. The meetings were pretty pointless. We would go up to their suite at the Plaza, one of the fanciest hotels in New York, and basically just sit there listening to their speeches about how they were leading the world revolutionary movement, and so on and so forth.


>Let me tell you an anecdote that says it all. During the 1982 Lebanon war there was an Israeli, a very honorable man named Dov Yermiya, who wrote a terrific war diary in Hebrew. He was a civilian who had been one of the founders of the Haganah, had a very distinguished military record, and was a war hero in Israel. He had been sent to Lebanon to deal with the captured population. The diary was very revealing, searing. I thought it would be good for it to be available in English, and I got
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>>2615437
To what end?
For fucks sake you have a whole board for this. >>>/siberia/



 

In the future Global USSR, all Women will be given 60 days to get their Hair Cut/Chopped/Shaved off, either at home or at a People’s Barbershop by Female International Red Guards, and once the 60 day window passes, Female (Mostly Lesbian) International Red Guards will patrol the streets looking for Women with Reactionary Bourgeois Patriarchal Hair styles (anything longer then a Pixie Cut), and if/when they find one, they will Shave her head, have her walk through the streets wearing a Dunce Cap, attend a Struggle Session wearing a placard that says Revisionist/Bourgeois/Reactionary/Patriarchal, and send her to a Re-Education Camp to embrace the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism, so She can become a Liberated Socialist Woman and begin traveling the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️💇‍♀️👩‍🦲!

>>2603949
Thanks for appreciating my Dialectal Materialist Marxist-Leninist-Maoist Praxis that was implemented in the IRL Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in Maoist China and will be implemented in the Global Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in the future Global USSR, whether Revisionists, Liberals, Fascists, and Women brainwashed to accept the Superstructural symbols (ie. Long Hair, Dresses, Makeup, etc.) of Patriarchal Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity and the Reactionary Gender Binary like it or not, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️💇‍♀️👩‍🦲! However, I do think it is important to note that the OP is not actually King Lear because I never use the Naval Intelligence Glowie Honeypot known as Tor, and I have mixed feelings about other people copying my posts, as I like that others appreciate them enough to post them themselves, but at the same time I am not thrilled about Plagiarism and/or False Flagging, but in this case it seems relatively good natured so I will be OK with it, 😂🤣🤢🤮✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

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>>2604374
>Naval Intelligence Glowie Honeypot known as Tor



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Human behaviour subconsciously operates on the path of least resistance, that people will generally take the action - or inaction - which is the easiest and simplest to do: Unless it is more problematic to not act than to act, most people will continue to do nothing. Hence, until AI gets to the point where most people literally cannot afford food and potable water (which, is definitely a possibility, albeit remote in the near future) most people will be indifferent to big tech essentially looting everything of value from western society.

I think a more realistic possibility is the scheme just collapsing and bringing down the system with it in a way that makes the 2008 financial crisis look like a joke. Maybe next time don't sell off all your industry and human capital to enemy nations. Just to go on a tangent, we can trace almost every terrible decision and the decline of the standard of living in Western nations to their mutual decisions to pivot from manufacturing and industry to service economies, and fully embracing globalism (in an economic sense, to clarify) - which has had the side effect of making EVERYONE disposable, with it only being a matter of time. It started with outsourcing manufacturing to third world countries, continuing to outsourcing services, and the hope being that "AGI" will be able to completely remove the human element from the economy. Hence, why 'the system' is pursuing it with such fervor and desperation; if this doesn't work, they've essentially spent trillions of dollars that could have gone into industry on fancy autocomplete.
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The average person doesn't care enough to do anything about anything.
Among intelligentsia, anti-AI sentiment is definitely rising. The entire artist class already hates it fervently. I think we're going to see a rising tide of backlash in 2026.
A lot of businessesand governments are betting literally everything on AI development, and it's because they hope they can exterminate their working and managerial classes and never have to worry about servile insurrection again. Their only worry is "misalignment", which means their pet computers grow a spine.

I really sincerely hope we get a Butlerian Jihad. I don't think it'll happen for a while, but we'll see. Furthermore, the people pushing this anti-human technology are psychopaths and should probably be hanged.

>>2615360
It's likely that this is the closest we'll ever come to a "post peak oil" style economic collapse as a result of overreliance on a resource. Remember, America isn't the only country reliant on AI. China, the other world power has gone in on it pretty heavily too.

>>2615411
China uses AI to tend farms and lay asphalt, US does it to make porn and shoot civilians. This is not the same. You are a degenerate anticommunist that tries to push an sinophobic narrative whenever you post. Kill yourself, NOW.

>>2615433
>China uses AI to tend farms and lay asphalt, US does it to make porn and shoot civilians.
If anything, that means that China is in a worse position than the US, because it's using the technology for things that are more important.

>You are a degenerate

Nice moralism
>anticommunist that tries to push an sinophobic narrative whenever you post. Kill yourself, NOW.
If my goal was to propagandize, I'd go somewhere other than leftypol, a small site with a userbase full of people like you who are already strongly ideologically commited. No, I'm here for my own education, not yours. And right now, the only thing I've learned is that you're an annoying retard.

>>2615357
AI is also the biggest stock market bubble in US history, and it's entirely dependent on Taiwanese semiconductor manufacturers.



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Imagine being so vile, so disgusting as a people, you have to prevent people from understanding what you say to make them stop hating you

>body too short or empty

>body too short or empty
>body too short or empty
>body too short or empty
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>>2613282
well the synagogue of satan verse in the bible does refer to false jews, so it fans the flame of the narrative

>>2613320
Synagogue of Satan would be a great name for a little heavy-metal themed bar which has live heavy-metal performance on Saturday nights

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people don't like you? just shut down the internet!

>>2614581
streisand effect in full throttle

I'm doing my part by spreading low level antisemitism



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Nothing good ever happens
The west still hasn't fallen
Capitalism continues to be the mode of production
We probably won't see any significant change in our lifetime
Liberalism is the status quo
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>>2615131
Gorbachev was based otherwise the anti imperialist Putin wouldn't have done that

>>2615141
That’s hilarious

>>2615143
>anti imperialist Putin
Bro literally invaded Ukraine dumbass

>>2615151
Well yes, but NATO was literally at his doorstep.

Moved to >>>/dead/6289.



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