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Casualty rises to 23 | Seven more civilians injured, including a girl, amid ongoing shelling in Al-Sheikh Maqsoud and Al-Ashrafiyah
According to SOHR local sources, interim government forces targeted Sheikh Maqsoud and Al-Ashrafieh with mortar shells and heavy machine guns of the “DShK” type, in parallel with direct clashes on several fronts inside the two neighbourhoods, causing widespread panic among civilians. In the same context, SOHR sources reported that seven injured people were taken to Al-Razi Hospital in Aleppo city, including two members of the Civil Defence, as a result of the shelling and ongoing clashes. Meanwhile, the Gaziantep–Aleppo road was closed from the Al-Layramoun roundabout side, following sniper fire attributed to SDF targeting the vicinity of Sheihan Roundabout, amid heightened security deployment.
https://www.syriahr.com/en/375281/

Turkish FM casts doubt on Kurdish integration in Syria
Ankara says the SDF presence along its southern borders poses a security threat to both Turkey and Syria, and that the Damascus government must address this. It has said any integration must ensure the SDF is disbanded - in line with a disarmament process between outlawed Kurdish PKK militants and the Turkish state - and its chain of command broken.
https://www.newarab.com/news/turkish-fm-casts-doubt-kurdish-integration-syria

Israel's new NGO rules risk leaving hundreds of thousands of Gazans without healthcare in 2026, MSF warns
The new requirements threaten to withdraw registration from international non-governmental organisations (INGOs) from January 1. This non-registration would prevent humanitarian organisations from providing essential services to people in Gaza and the West Bank, MSF said today. “With Gaza’s health system already destroyed, independent and experienced humanitarian organisations losing access to respond would be a disaster for Palestinians,” MSF said.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/israels-new-ngo-rules-risk-leaving-hundPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Watchdog Celebrates Victory Over Instacart Pricing Scheme—But Says Broader Corporate Abuse Remains
The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) took notice of the report, saying it was “disturbed” by the findings, and launched an investigation on Thursday, which caused the company’s stock price to plummet by about 7%. It also attracted attention from members of Congress, including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY), who demanded government action on what he called “shakedown pricing.” Instacart agreed that same day to pay the FTC $60 million in a settlement for what the commission said was “a variety of deceptive tactics that misled consumers and caused them to pay more in fees.”
https://www.commondreams.org/news/instacart-ends-ai-pricing

US pauses offshore wind projects over security concerns
In a statement, the Department of the Interior said it was pausing five large-sale projects to look into how windmills could interfere with radar and create other risks to east coast cities. President Donald Trump has long opposed wind energy, saying it is unreliable and drives up costs, and attempted to stop all projects when he returned to office. Interior Secretary Doug Burgum has said wind farms have no future in the US energy grid.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd74lyr094vo

Democratic-led states sue to block US consumer watchdog's defunding under Trump
Last month, the CFPB under Vought's leadership said it could not request more money from the Fed because the Dodd-Frank Act of 2010 requires that funding come from the central bank's "combined earnings." Since the Fed had been operating at a loss since 2022, the Trump administration said no earnings were available. The CFPB in a November 10 court filing said it expected its funds would run out in early 2026.
https://www.reuters.com/world/democratic-led-states-sue-block-us-consumer-watchdogs-defunding-under-trump-2025-12-22/

Baltimore residents rally against BGE rate hikes, demanding public utilityPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Keir Starmer’s Government Is Leaving the Hunger Strikers to Die
By the standards of even the most forgiving and lenient Santa, it can’t be said that Keir Starmer’s government has been good this year. We’ve seen a manifesto-breaching budget that was leaked ahead of time, embarrassing U-turns on scrapping the two-child benefit cap, welfare reform and cutting pensioners’ winter fuel payments, and bursts of vicious briefing and leadership plot speculation amid Labour’s increasingly dire polling figures. Then there were the Tommy Robinson-approved plans for asylum seekers, support for Israeli football hooligans’ right to rampage through Birmingham and yet more cabinet cowardice over Israel’s continuous campaign of ethnic cleansing in Gaza. And if this wasn’t enough to warrant a lump of coal in the government’s stocking on Christmas morning, 2025 also saw Starmer’s weaponisation of anti-terror law in the form of the proscription of Palestine Action, ie protecting UK sites of Israel’s largest arms manufacturer while nanas in their 80s get carried off by cops. With parliament’s Christmas hiatus beckoning, there’s one shameful chapter left wide open: the six hunger-striking prisoners, who become more likely to sustain irreversible physical damage or die with every hour of government inaction.
https://novaramedia.com/2025/12/19/keir-starmers-government-is-leaving-the-hunger-strikers-to-die/

Chile Applies New Anti-Terrorism Law to Mapuche Youths; Prison Denies Basic Rights
In Wallmapu, Chile, the situation of Mapuche youths Lientur Millacheo and Jaime Huenchuñir—the first individuals in Chile to be prosecuted under the country’s newly revised Anti-Terrorism Law—has worsened, according to their spokeswomen. Both young men are currently held in the Temuco Penitentiary, where their families report that they have been subjected to torture and what they describe as direct political persecution by the Chilean State. We spoke with spokeswomen Alen Huenuche and Millaray Huenchuñir, as well as attorney Christian Arancibia, who is supporting the families. Millacheo and Huenchuñir remain in pretrial detention while prosecutors investigate their case under the new anti-terrorism framework—and could be legally held without trial for up to five years. In Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.
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>>2608925
I'm sorry for committing a no-no. Thank you for convincing not only myself but everyone else ITT of how deeply wrong and wretched I am.

>>2608948
i seem to recall this attitude had detrimental effects on jack's mental health.

>>2608950
who is jack?

>>2608952
a dull boy

>>2608952
Mr. Meoff is a pretty important leader, surprised you don't know him desu



 

A very common tactic on this site is to defend an idea on the basis that it is in some way Marxian, or fits in with so and so Marxist concept. This is, frankly, really fucking stupid. Pretty much all of the key Marxist thinkers have placed great emphasis on the fact that Marxism is a broad intellectual framework; a way of analyzing the world that is open to modification as it's tested against real-world material conditions.

But people here treat it as if it's a dogma; as if there's a set of ideas that must be absolutely accepted if one is to be a proper communist. It's like if we treated Einsteinan physics circa the mid 20th centure as the only valid kind of physics and scolded anyone who questioned it. Why? It's such an unscientific approach to science. Can somebody please explain this to me?
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>>2608361
Are you a leftcom who recognises Mao Zedong Thought as Marxist? Am I hallucinating?

>>2608743
Didn't read the post he's replying to award

>>2608771
I respect the contributions of Mao and friends greatly, mostly because they actually exist. China serves as a fantastic example of socialism as an economic system actually working. With that said, I'm generally opposed to centralized political power, and China is very much a nation that is very much centralized.

This opposition is driven partially by ideology, in the sense that I would personally prefer to live under a form of socialism that uses direct democracy and a people's militia comprised of ordinary citizens to minimize if not outright eliminate the governing "class" as a distinct group.

But it is also, and at this point actually moreso, driven by historical evidence. The death of the Soviet Union was pretty much entirely the result of centralized politics. The fact that a small handful of assholes were able to torpedo a successful nation more-or-less overnight tells you everything you need to know about the failings of centralization.

>me me me me
>I I I I I
>me me me me
no one cares, loser, get meaningfully organized

>>2608165
because people don't want scientific analysis of real-world material conditions, they want religious dogma. religion isn't dead, it's just transformed into pseudo-politics and fandom.

people are ultimately little monkeys chasing social status. "i know more marx than you" is an optimal strategy to seeking social status while playing the communist game, even if it's useless for building communism. "i have a novel analysis" should put you further ahead, but it's easily undermined by accusing you of revisionism, etc. since it's easier to memorize or google marx quotes to support your argument than it is to conduct real analysis, most of the players of the game are encouraged to keep it as a game of orthodoxy rather than orthopraxy.

this is, incidentally, also why nearly all non-governing communist parties are completely and utterly worthless LARPs.

>>2608165
>as if there's a set of ideas that must be absolutely accepted if one is to be a proper communist
yeah sure that can happen but most of the time its not an appeal to authority but just shorthand for "this makes sense, and also marx said it, so you should consider it seriously". people tend not to effort post when the inquirer is just nitpicking and trying to debunk so if you want the details you have to put in the effort yourself or at least ask nicely instead of being hostile



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How does Israel's racial hierarchy actually work? Do they really see Mizrahi as "Jews" even though ethnically they're basically Arabs? They sure as hell don't see Ethiopian Jews as equals, so what about other JOC?

>>2608122
idk but I think so, but from what I understand, with some generalization, the Asheknazis are on the liberal side of the Israeli culture war while the Mizrahis are on the rougher, conservative, MIGA nationalistic RETVRN side so it wouldn't make sense to apply American categories. Likud's voters are majority Mizrahi.

Like the issue was not are they Jews or not but what "kind" of Jews

Mizrahi Jews are way more pro-Zionist than Ashkenazim.

>>2608122
>How does nazi germany's racial hierarchy actually work? Do they really see non blondes as "aryan" even though ethnically they're basically german? They sure as hell don't see black haired germans as equals, so what about other GOCH?
uygha you shouldnt give a single fuck about injustice inbetween settler colonists but to answer your question no they call ethiopians koshim which means nig and mizrahis as still technically jewish but subhumans that arent as developed and civilized as the european ashkenazim sometimes mizrahim get killed because they get mistaken as palestinian kek, most ashkenazis arent religious though theyre just in for the money so they care more about whiteness than religion



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Do you guys see the left capturing any meaningful gains in the next twenty years? What countries do you guys believe are most primed for revolution? Do you believe communism will die in this century?
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>>2601427
>Besides, the illiberal axis (iran, china, and russia) has only seen one of its members make meaningful gains. China’s rise is impressive but it’s fundamentally constrained to their geographical location, and their model hardly seems replicable in other parts of the world. In response, the western world will probably adopt a mercantilist stance.
China's rise is surprising, I remember when anything they spoke of was not to be taken seriously. It used to be a joke of a country.
>Yes. The bourgeoisie has been trying very hard to paint libertarianism as the way to go and has been adamant on decribilizing marx. Fundamentally this doesn’t matter much because the people remain the subject of the dialectic. If we get some form of movement that restrains the bourgeoisie, introduces real democracy both in workplace and in government, has some form of planning to adress the woes of capitalism etc, whether or not they call themselves marxist doesn’t matter. What matters is effective change, and it doesn’t really matter in which name it occurs as long as it focused on overcoming capitalism.
Do you think there'll be a new alternative soon? I'd figured libertarianism was very much a setup too.
>France might have a shot given their current position of the left.
My friends over in France keep believing that there'll be riots and it'll be Macroever but nothing happens

India is most likely to become socialist soon
>is in the process of industiralizing
>communist party already fought a gurellia war previously
>communist party controls one of the provinces (and its one of the mlst developed)

>>2602570
How many years do you give it? They resemble the Philippines in their distaste towards communism.

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Que sera sera
What ever will be, will be
The future's not ours to see

>>2601354
>China becoming a superpower
It already is.
>mass unemployment caused by AI useful for leftist politics
This might actually be a bad thing, believe it or not. The entire basis of Marxism is that the bourgeois need us more than we need them. What happens when this ceases to be true? Historical materialism is not historical destiny.

>planned economy becoming more realistic with AI

Modern-day "AI" is, by and large, a machine that generates expected responses to prompts. In terms of functionality, it's really just Cleverbot with a larger context window and the ability to piece together new sentences rather than just repeating back old ones. It's an impressive piece of technology, to be sure, one that I myself have used a fair bit, but to put it in charge of economic planning is dangerously stupid.

>>2601514
>greenhairs
Why are you people so goddamn obsessed with this 2015 Tumblr SJW stereotype? How many of these people do you actually encounter in your daily lives?

>China will be fully socialist

What does "fully socialist" actually mean in this context?



 

What is your favorite thread that used to be on /leftypol/?

No happenings, like election threads or le pol face. We're talking about generals, like the WebM dump threads.

for a while, there was a dedicated leftcom thread /internationalism/
kinda sad to see it go, i like leftcoms like you like children with disabilities

>>2608840
> i like leftcoms like you like children with disabilities
Indeed
It is amusing to see them believe in their fantasies and go all in

>>2608840
There was this one unironic hindu nationalist thread I will never forgit

>>2608844
>>2608843
>>2608855
The best threads are those you enjoy purely because they're enjoyable, kind of like how everyone who listens to whatifalthist does so because he's stupid



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So, in addition to the contingent of people who think that Native Americans don’t exist anymore and were all genocided (which ironically is US government propaganda to justify its continued settler-colonial occupation of indigenous land), there also seems to be a contingent of people who thinks that all people in the US regardless of race, *even Native Americans*, are irredeemable and unrevolutionary and should even be killed, such as the posts I’ve circled in the two screenshots I attached. While I could completely get behind white people in the US either leaving to Europe or being killed or should just be killed in general when revolution comes, (and I say this as a white settler myself), and that even manyBlack people in the US still contribute to US imperialism, how on earth could you have this little intellectual curiosity and empathy for the plight of indigenous peoples in the so-called US. I mean come on, thousands of completely unique languages foodways, ways of music and art, and beautiful people were and are continuing to be destroyed for the sake of building the most horrible and destructive empire on the history of earth, and instead of having empathy for those whose lands it is built on, you say you want to continue said evil empire’s genocide all while claiming to oppose said evil empire, just because a small comprador class of Native Americans aligns with US imperialism. I mean even if you don’t care about the people themselves, which you should, shouldn’t you care for the sake of intellectualism about thousands of distinct languages and cultures?

Also, something weird I’ve been noticing is that people say that Hawaii, Guam, and Puerto Rico should be freed from the US, but they never say that native peoples with in the lower 48 states and Alaska should be freed, which just naturalizes the US empire’s occupation of indigenous land.

Idk, it just seems like from online discourse both on and off of /leftypol/, that 95+ percent of leftists outside of the US think that all Native Americans are extinct, or think that they’re horrible and unrevolutionary. NonAmericanBros, especially GlobalSouthBros, please tell me you don’t think this. Please tell me you have love and solidarity for your fellow oppressed people, while also being able to criticize them while they are reactionary in a healthy way without writing them off as a whole. I’m not trying to smear every Non-USian leftist, and I know it’s probably just me being emotionallyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2562173
>While I might be able to get genociding white people
Lmfao

>>2605692
You are almost certainly a honkie yourself and can send your impotent snow monkey ass straight to Hell even today if you want to wipe out westerners so bad

You can start with yourself, western faggot lol

>>2563603
It’s sort of funny, because if anyone deserves to be shot it’s actually american leftoids including everyone on this dogshit website, considering that their ideology is just woke fucking hitlerism due to utter moralfaggotry forming the basis of their worldview

>>2562306
Leftism is the exact opposite of communism so it makes sense
“Anti-imperialism” is just yet another ideology that centers genociding proles to make capitalism more fair

I truly hate the faggotry of leftism

>>2562287
More proof that MLism is an ideology of cope and seethe by eternal losers
Remember that even if China surpasses america economically and geopolitically it had to become a full partner in the capitalist imperialist system to do so, fully abandoning revolution, and you as an impotent western mloid played 0 role in this



 

The majority of leftypol users are not using dialectial materialism, but mechanical materialism. How did this happen and how do we fix it?
I've been using this website for a while and pretty much whenever I tell people to propagandize, agitate, educate and whatnot I get told "that's useless, you're a liberal minded retard" and when I ask what we should do then I get two answers
>thing nobody in this website will do, like making a guerrilla group or firebombing a walmart or some other very drastic shit that screams main character fantasies
>doing nothing. Just read more books.
And the reason every single time is vulgar mechanical materialism disguised as dialectics. Discuss.
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>"The essence of the “new” trend, which adopts a “critical” attitude towards “obsolete dogmatic” Marxism, has been clearly enough presented by Bernstein and demonstrated by Millerand. Social-Democracy must change from a party of social revolution into a democratic party of social reforms

<What is To Be Done?

Dialectical materialism is, at bottom, a philosophy of science; a set of metaphysical and epistemological claims and concepts that are treated as given and to be used as starting points for further analysis. Learning a brand new way of thinking about knowledge itself is extremely hard, and within that realm dialectical materialism is fairly complex compared to, say, positivism. As such, most people either don't try, or hit a weird half-way point where they kind of get it but not really.

>>2608307
Why are people so eager to shut down discussion on a site that's dedicated to it?

>>2608331
I think he just wanted to post that pic and text, he posted it in some others.

>>2608232
>The majority of leftypol users are not using dialectial materialism
yeah they do

>>2608560
No they don’t
Most of this board are metaphysical idealists and can more accurately be called fascists than anything else, at least ideologically

Most are also stupid american subhumans so they cannot recognize that their version of “socialism” is indistinguishable from a ᴉuᴉlossnW rant

At any rate they should be executed in their homes in front of their families mostly to gauge the reactions of the latter



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Trump is gemmy doe
>farmers rise up to overthrow fauci
>opens up the coal mines again
>uses a red hat
>has a lower class martyr that got the presidential medal of freedom
>modern Russia is Christian
Seems like winning to me

>>2608513
>modern Russia is Christian
Why is this considered a good thing?

>>2608520
OP's post is making fun of multipolaristas for repackaging western imperialist bourgeois morality with multipolar branding stamped on it.

>>2608520
We wouldn’t have Stoli if that one warlord 1000 years ago chose Islam

>>2608520
also what does that have to do with Trump or his being "gemmy." I swear to god chuds are drunks and addicts who post their idle thoughts that they had right after fapping, before they've even washed their hands (which they never do)



 

Hey guys, a couple of days ago, while reading an article, I remembered about a Marx quote where he talks about the use of methods and methodologies in Science by comparing them to a ray of light and a piece of glass (I think? I can't quite remember correctly, something like that anyway). In the quote he says something along the lines of "If knowledge is a ray of light and a method is a piece of glass then by utilising a method we are merely observing the reflection of the ray of light, not the ray of light itself" (I think). The problem is I read this quote so long ago I've forgotten it's exact phrasing.

I've been searching for it for days and I haven't been able to find it, I figured it would be been in the German Ideology, or maybe Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right, or the Philosophical Manuscripts but none of those have anything similar.

To be honest I don't even know if this quote is actually Marx's or if it was Engels or Hegel saying it, that's how bad my memory is.

If any of you remember such a quote and/or know in which text it was written please respond to this thread it would be of great help. Even if you vaguely remember it and haven't checked the text in a while.

Thanks in advance to all of you

>>2607775
ask ai

also, no sharties which are non OC

The fuck do we know, nobody reads marx here


>Any mention of Essence implies that we distinguish it from Being: the latter is immediate, and, compared with the Essence, we look upon it as mere seeming. But this seeming is not an utter nonentity and nothing at all, but Being superseded and put by. The point of view given by the Essence is, in general, the standpoint of 'Reflection'. This word 'reflection' is originally applied, when a ray of light in a straight line impinging upon the surface of a mirror is thrown back from it. In this phenomenon, we have two things – first an immediate fact which is, and secondly the deputed, derivated, or transmitted phase of the same. Something of this sort takes place when we reflect, or think upon an object: for here we want to know the object, not in its immediacy, but as derivative or mediated. The problem or aim of philosophy is often represented as the ascertainment of the essence of things: a phrase which only means that things, instead of being left in their immediacy, must be shown to be mediated by, or based upon, something else. The immediate Being of things is thus conceived under the image of a rind or curtain behind which the Essence is hidden.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/sl/slessenc.htm

>>2607775
Nusoicacas can’t marx they quotes



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