/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2300141
You are confusing things here, but I will just assume not on purpose. Yes, I already knew you were paraphrasing Marx, but his is rather a statement of what identity in the end is most important, which is class and I agree to with that. However, you use it as a sort of dismissal of analyzing how constructs of the superstructure, in which people are socialized into and act based on, play into political dynamics of the working class and then also frame it as if those assessing it from a meta perspective are believe in them as if they were real.

>>2298254
least racist leftypolak

>>2298789
What point exactly are you trying to make with this article? Is it that the material benefits of imperialism for white workers in the US magically don't exist because the US specifically doesn't have as formalized a welfare state? Their disproportionately higher wages (disproportionate to the value created by their labor) and cheap commodities (enabled by the paying nothing to the people who actually created the value overseas) just don't exist? Even if such a thing were true (it isn't) what about the other settler-states which do have universal healthcare? That these workers don't live in a utopia doesn't change their overall relationship to the rest of the world, in the same way that a celebrity or business owner "having it hard too" doesn't change their overall relationship to production.

All of these states contain a strata of temporarily embarrassed settlers who fall through the cracks, but even then their primary struggle is the possibility of having to work an inglorious industrial or service position (that still has disproportionately high wages) until they get back on their feet. This is simply not the same struggle as the vast majority of workers worldwide, who struggle for basic daily survival in sweatshops, mines, and forges they don't even know if they'll be allowed to leave when their shift is done. The workers of the world face death and dismemberment every day and fear that death will come for them, the settler-worker in the US faces rude boss taking some of their benefits and fear becoming a worker like in the rest of the world. The settler is still a worker in the strictest sense, but their relationship to capital is warped by social relations and material conditions on the ground.

I also shouldn't have to point out the major issue in self-reporting "living paycheck to paycheck", namely that the bougiest motherfuckers you've ever met will look you in the eyes and claim that. Fucking Mr. Beast claims he lives paycheck to paycheck! Surveys can provide very useful data but in cases like this they prove fuck all. In particular a self-reported survey doesn't allow you to flatten the class struggle in the US or anywhere into a little idealist storybook depiction of class where internal contradictions don't exist.

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>>2298728
>settler worker
>labor aristocrat
These are interesting concepts. They seem very useful for counter-signaling communism and proving that class solidarity is incoherent at best and a cynical ruse at worst. Thank you for posting them I will get a lot of mileage out of them.

>>2303478
If that's your interpretation then you don't understand class solidarity or class consciousness. Neither of these terms have materially undermined communism anywhere, but the phenomena they identify have.

>>2302915
I want to see more boomer freakouts. I respect that he respects his wife but holy shit lmao

>>2302915
>>2302952
Lol the zoomie that filmed it uploaded it 3 times in a row, each time with different stupid music over the top.

>>2295074
because the gov went full neolib from Mulroney until today he was basically Canadian Reagan or Thatcher the only way out is if someone goes full socialist without Alberta freaking out about gommunism

>>2302915
based
brats need to be beaten to the verge of death to be taught respect
under socialism any punk kid who disrespects the elderly will be shot

Nukechan is slow but has some nice threads.

>>2276315
CrimeThicc has some useful DIY resources but I had to re-evaluate them when I saw a how-to guide include fucking magick wishing.

>>2277658
Among the junk and a couple of /leftypol/-grade screechtards, there are some properly decent users there. It's a decent resource for good questions.

>>2276251
What the fuck is LeftyPol? That one's new to me. What's their website?

Take me away from this place

>>2276251
Libgen.is
Libcom.org
leftychan.net
Getchan.net

>>2303058
Libgen is something totally different.
Getchan is ok, low activity
best to put the mantle of silence over the other two

>>2269853
>his purchasing power is 5x of the median amerifart
Holy shit is that true

>>2303022
> first was backed communist states, and always pretend to be real communist
Almost like there was this thing called the Cold War and the only thing you had to do to get funding from one of the two superpowers fighting each other with proxy wars was to put some red paint on your flag.

Leftypol still can't figure that one out.

>>2303026
Yeah.

>>2269771
Just recently, one of US media rags has printed a "leaked" report from Russian FSB which has claimed that China is going to backstab Russia. You have to understand that whatever American propaganda feeds you, it feeds you with sources claiming to have received a genuine peace of intelligence from the enemy side. Westoids did this for centuries.

>>2269781
And by the way, unlike alleged Russian losses in current war, American losses came from American own sources, so those are actually lowest possible admissions instead of real figures

How can this be done? Well, just look at Nazis, for example, who instead of counting tank losses as tank losses, like Soviets did, they ran a calculation of destroyed tank parts (with the assumption being that undamanged parts can be reclaimed and reused), and had sophisticated losses reports of, say, 1 1/2 tanks lost. Same for planes and ships. Thankfully, this travesty is impossible to do with soldier losses, but Nazis had special count for troop losses as well. USA, being a Westoid nation, ran similar loss report schemes during Vietnam to obfuscate real scope of American defeat. Meanwhile, Soviet losses in any conflict comes from AT BEST Soviet field reports, i.e. a lost tank is a lost tank, even if salvaged later (in fact, it creates a situation where Soviet losses exceed Soviet production, therefore it must have been Lend-Lease!!1), and AT WORST from enemy side.

>>2302948
what do you mean?

do you need the quotes on productive forces too? we can bring lenin as well he is much more explicit

>>2277070
Shut the fuck up

>>2276623
Who are we supposed to suppooooort? you still have not told us who we are suppoooorting. i need to know who to post about

>>2302964
>phul sapport basic package (if you'd remove any of these i'd kill you and hide the body, basically)
dprk, cuba, china, vietnam, lao
>understands how the world works award
belarus, russia, iran, palestine, formerly syria (rip 💔), venezuela, nicaragua, serbia, sahel states, among others
>toxic sludge (if you add any of these you're automatically terminated)
amerikkka, jizzrael, cuckraine, kkkosovo, separatists in the taiwan province/tibet/xinjiang, /pol/and, EU bureaukkkrats, perfidious albion, among others

>>2302765
>>2302760
What's the difference? Both of their jobs is rounding of Latinos.

>>2302746
>I have a wife and child. We are going to to take up arms and fucking kill you or we will be killed. That is all that is left.
No way dude. Does your kid know that you're sperging on a mongolian basket weaving forum instead of spending quality time with him? Goddamn, at least be one of those husbands that plays video games by himself instead of whatever this is.

um akshually it's latinx

>>2302772
Is that Mister Metokur?

>>2302772
you're sperging right here with me. you made up some shit with some cherrypicked photos to prove a fake point that wasn't true and i proved you wrong. then you changed the subject to "HAVE SEX" my toddler's in bed. I spent time with them all day. i'm a great fucking dad. i'm a great fucking husband. this country is SHIT. kill ALL reactionaries. especially white supremacists trying to pretend ICE is mostly latino to make some underhanded point. I worked harder than you this week and I worked harder than you today. I EARNED my fucking right to spit in your face on the mongolian basket weaving forum. FUCK YOU.

A takeover of a small group makes sense if there are funds and real estate to be gained. Is that the case here?

>>2296554
Money maybe because they have paid memberships. Real estate is trickier. They’re losers who have tried the whole "run from within the Democratic Party" strategy

>If those retards in the Mises Caucus could take over the Libertarian Party
The Libertarian Party is a national organisation with actual membership, i.e: work taking over.

do it because it's funny

I’m not sure any leftwing ideology could take over any party

>>2302175
>it's not genocide because they're not being physically exterminated
>it's not genocide because their population is increasing
Literally Zionist talking points

All politics is contrarianism

>>2302247
Bourgeoise charity is certainly better than Mein Kampf or the Doctrine of Fascism or wherever the fuck ML theory comes from

>>2296024
I will leave a few quotes for those individuals confused about the concept of capitalist imperialism and national liberation movements to expose the opportunists here.

First, let's look at Lenin's definition of capitalist imperialism:

<But very brief definitions, although convenient, for they sum up the main points, are nevertheless inadequate, since we have to deduce from them some especially important features of the phenomenon that has to be defined. And so, without forgetting the conditional and relative value of all definitions in general, which can never embrace all the concatenations of a phenomenon in its full development, we must give a definition of imperialism that will include the following five of its basic features:

<(1) the concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life; (2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation, on the basis of this “finance capital,” of a financial oligarchy; (3) the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities acquires exceptional importance; (4) the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among themselves and (5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completed. Imperialism is capitalism at that stage of development at which the dominance of monopolies and finance capital is established; in which the export of capital has acquired pronounced importance; in which the division of the world among the international trusts has begun, in which the division of all territories of the globe among the biggest capitalist powers has been completed.

<Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, 1916, VII. IMPERIALISM AS A SPECIAL STAGE OF CAPITALISM

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ch07.htm

I will give another quote as an example of self-determination of nations in Lenin's time, where we can see that Palestinians do not have economic sovereignty, energy, water, or thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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My main question is why anyone would want to touch this OP with even a 12 foot pole?

>>2302453
>Bolivia: Evo followers keep blocking roads and seize one airport
So it's open rebellion

Detroit, one of the poorest and most exploited cities in the US, is currently being choked by poor air quality due to the Canadian wildfires.

California officials decry union leader’s arrest amid renewed Ice raids and protests
During Friday’s protests at a federal detention facility in downtown LA, David Huerta, the president of the California branch of the Service Employees International Union, was arrested amid a police response that included teargas and flash-bangs. Huerta, who was injured and detained, released a statement to the Los Angeles Times from the hospital, saying: “What happened to me is not about me. This is about something much bigger.” “This is about how we as a community stand together and resist the injustice that’s happening. Hard-working people, and members of our family and our community, are being treated like criminals. We all collectively have to object to this madness because this is not justice,” he added.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/07/immigration-raids-los-angeles

Tesla seeks to block city of Austin from releasing records on robotaxi trial
Austin public-information officer Dan Davis told Reuters on April 1 that “third parties” had asked the city to withhold the records to protect their “privacy or property interests.” Austin officials on April 7 requested an opinion on the news agency’s request from the Texas Attorney General’s office, which handles public-records disputes.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-seeks-block-city-austin-releasing-records-robotaxi-trial-2025-06-06/

A US territory’s colonial history emerges in state disputes over voting and citizenship
In what experts describe as an unprecedented case, Alaska prosecutors are pursuing felony charges against 11 residents of Whittier, most of them related to one another, saying they falsely claimed U.S. citizenship when registering or trying to vote. The defendants were all born in American Samoa, an island cluster in the South Pacific roughly halfway between Hawaii and New Zealand. It’s the only U.S. territory where residents are not automatically granted citizenship by virtue of having been born on American soil, as the Constitution dictates.
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HOUDINI: Mutual Aid Organizations | Some Thoughts on Hierarchy and the Creation of It Within Our Own Organizations
As some of you may know, I am a big fan of mutual aid as my primary form of organizing. I think going into your community, providing for the people, trying to build intentional communities, trying to give back to the people—going amongst the masses, doing good works—I do believe that is one of the most effective ways to bolster your connections to your community, connections to your neighborhood, connections to other people. Find new people who are allies. It's just a great starting point. And I think it's something that anyone can do, and it's a nonviolent logistical form of resistance that is infrastructure-focused on action. I'm a big fan of it. That said, I've learned many things in my time, whether it has been going and physically handing out meal kits, safety kits, and hygiene kits to people, or actually working at pop-up soup kitchens, or free fridge programs, what have you. I've learned some things, and I think that we're missing some of the points with mutual aid. Maybe I'm going to come off a little bit too ruthless here, but we are creating hierarchies in our own organizations, and we are effectively doing charity, not mutual aid community building.
https://erikhoudini.com/#post?id=629651&title=mutual-aid-organizations-some-thoughts-on-hierarchy-and-the-creation-of-it-within-our-own-organizations

Wall Street To Insurers: Keep Denying Care
A health care industry giant’s Wall Street overlords just admitted that the company’s sky-high health insurance coverage denial rates reaped them enormous profits — and to keep the money flowing, they’re suing to stop the insurer from approving more patient care. UnitedHealth Group has been facing growing discontent from its investors, a battle that — as the corporation faces mounting public scrutiny over its care denials — could shape the future of health insurance for 29 million people. A May 7 lawsuit brought by a small-time investor in UnitedHealth Group is one of the latest chapters in the battle, arguing that the company’s tanking stock performance this spring had cost its investors unfairly. Some corporate media rePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2265724
Waheguru ji 🙏

>>2265724
Its so tiring…
Read GDNE

>>2265724
do you have to use the wealth of spiritual wisdom as-is or can you drain it into dialectics

>>2302208
Was Benito based?

>>2265724
Anon in 1950s:
<The fact that polio is such an enduring thing in humanity across the world shows how it's intertwined with human health.