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Mass media is dominated by those with the capital to own it. Any airtime an anti-capitalist gains on these platforms can be revoked at any time. So while pursuing exposure on them isn't useless, it is limited, and playing at a disadvantage.

It's therefore useful to draw people away from these compromised platforms onto our own platforms, and to discover places they are not able to easily dominate.

Naturally, there are infrastructural challenges - internet services require servers, which cost money, have terms and conditions if you aren't self-hosting, and can ultimately be shutdown by the state if considered a threat.

Some examples, to get the discussion rolling:
< Socialist-run media outlets (MeansTV, party article/newspapers, self-hosted podcasts)
< Socialist-owned forums (/leftypol/s, eRegime, socialist mastodon instances, socialist lemmy instances like Hexbear)
< Socialist closed chat groups (Matrix channels, Telegram/Whatsapp/Signal/Di$cord groups [still vulnerable to deplatforming, but limited] )
< Postering/stickering/graffiti
< Personal networks (word of mouth)
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>>2696921
>>2696927
>>2696928
Samefagging glownonymous

>>2696930
>three posts in the same row making three different points and responding to different people are the same person
No fucking shit you massive retard. Did you start using imageboards yesterday? Lmfao.

>>2696813
>>2672700
What about something like myretrotvs but with socialist or socialist friendly media
https://www.myretrotvs.com/

>>2696927
>i love making up shit nobody said
two can play at that game

>>2672700
>muh culture



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Belarus, Vietnam, Uzbekistan, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Indonesia…
WTF?
LOL?
Explanation?
This looks incredibly random. Why did these join the Trump union? How do you explain the "AES" Vietnam being in the Trump union? Or the China-influenced Mongolia? Or Russia-influenced central asian countries? What gives?
Let me guess, you're all going to say its 5D chess.
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Trump truly is a fucking narcissist who wants everything the way he wants. I wanted communism to return to Bulgaria but we can't get everything ffs just go eat the bugs

>>2699062
I don't think any of those countries are complicit in this plan anyways. More like some Israeli official looked at a list of "Muslim" countries and selected the ones that he thought were the most pro-Western.

Why did the viets go for it?
Especially if they pad?

>>2699235
Nobody paid yet and all were invited, afaik. Unless this idiocy proves to be useful in one way or another none of the Premium™ members are going to pay the fee next year and it will just be forgotten with the end of Trump's presidency.

As for Vietnam, burgers have been trying hard to drive a wedge between them and China for decades now with no real effects.

>>2698614
It's basically just a list of people Trump can easily bribe



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Would a vanguard party led revolution even work in the modern USA?

What i mean is with policy like contelpro, and with the feds just being able to track pretty much everyone that'd raise alarms through their technology as well as the technology of people associated with them due to the insane reach of the servalence state, how could a centralized organization like a revolutionary vanguard even do its job of leading and recruiting revolutionary forces whilst also building duel power and not be infiltrated and broken up from the inside?


Like theirs a reason that most active terrorist groups operating in the us have just started using cell structures and "leaderless resistance", basically being loosely related cells of at most a dozen people, but thats not really something us commies can do.


what do you think? Am i just being wrong, or do we need to come up with some other strategy for working in the imperial core?
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>>2737233
That pic is cringe

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>>2735807
>>have just started using cell structures and "leaderless resistance", basically being loosely related cells of at most a dozen people, but thats not really something us commies can do

This adaption is a result of a material reality, and Marxists avoiding it is PURE IDEALISM. Anyone who avoids analyzing and experimenting with these organizational forms while claiming "dialectical materialism" suffers from the obsession of fixed ideas.

First, the Bolsheviks themselves used cell structures. Lenin's What Is To Be Done? explicitly called for an organization built around small, clandestine cells of professional revolutionaries precisely because open, mass organization was impossible under Tsarist autocracy. The "leaderless resistance" model that emerged under the expanding gaze of the modern security apparatus is just the modern iteration of the same adaptive logic; when the state can surveil and infiltrate centralized structures, you distribute and compartmentalize. The form changes; the function remains.

The idea that every other movement can adapt to the material reality of security conditions, whereas communists cannot is false. The December 2008 Greek uprising stands as a definitive example of a distributed vanguard functioning at scale, directly validating the organizational framework we have been developing. Sparked by the police killing of 15-year-old Alexandros Grigoropoulos, an anarchist in Athens, the revolt spread within hours to every major city and lasted over a month, involving not just militant anarchists & marxists but high school students, university youth, immigrants, and the precariously employed. Crucially, the uprising had no central leadership or vanguard party directing events; it was polycentric and self-organizing, coordinating through neighborhood assemblies, occupied workplaces, government buildings, schools and universities, squats and autonomous affinity groups. This distributed structure proved remarkably resilient and effective, forcing the state into a defensive posture, paralyzing the government, and causing billions in damage. Most significantly for Marxist theory, the shared material struggle temporarily dissolved the sectarian divide between Anarchists and Marxists, forcing a practical unity in the streets that abstract debate and party lines had nevPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2737242
>>pic is cringe

I don't trust anyone that cringes when they see camo and guns.

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>>2737246
>I don't trust anyone that cringes when they see camo and guns.
I don't trust anyone who says cringe. They're the type of people who would "cringe" and close their eyes if they ever fired a gun. I really could never what kind of faggot feels the need to tell us their own faggot self-destructive responses like cringing and flinching like any of us should give a fuck.

>>2737251

Cringe.



 

I find it especially ironic that Islamists, who claim to be reactionaries yet are nothing but impotent conservatives: the loyal servants of of capital, have exacerbated the social ills of bourgeois society which they claimed to oppose.

Islamists in my country used to attack communists for "promoting prostitution" and the "community of women" (women owned in common) this was refuted by Marx as early as the Manifesto who pointed to the hypocrisy of this accusation, nevertheless what happened once Islamists captured power with the backing of multinational capital and the petty bourgeoisie? Public prostitution became prevalent and organized, an underground industry run by this new bourgeoisie. Religious cities became brothels that people cross oceans for, with the blessings of God and law - prostitution became holy "temporary" marriage, a market fueled by endless victims of poverty, austerity and war.

As for private prostitution (marriage) civil marriage was de facto abolished and with it any concessions offered to the woman, communists used to rally against the payment offered to the woman's family to consummate the marriage arguing that it is a form of commodification, this has now became the standard practice, cementing the woman's role as a commodity first, prompting her to rot until she is inevitably sold rather than take her own path in life.

The separation of genders have twisted the view of women to be mere objects of sexual gratification rather than real conscious beings. This view twisted further by pornagrahy; the consumption rates of which is amongst the highest in the world despite being banned and labelled taboo. Naturally the rates of harassment and rape have also increased despite bullying women into suppressing their every feminine character.

I suppose eventually it became convenient to lift any ostensible restrictions around this commodity, and so the age of marriage was lowered to 9 in order to save them from degeneracy of celibacy.

Now believe me when I say I don't shutter at the 'immorality and injustice' of any of this for the commodification of women and children is entirely within the logic of capitalism, in this extreme case it has only been elevated into a more public form under the guise of God, the only way to abolish it remains to be by abolishing all class distinctions.

The point of this post is more so to point to the hypocrisy of conservatives who purport to oppose the prevaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2677308
>>2677314
I'm Pakistani and I will say that the Afghans and my nation would have better off with the Russians, we'd be semi-civilized and on par with central-asia then the shitholes we are right now

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>>2677308
>How's the Soviets killing a billion Afghan to save le democracy
>killing a billion
1. kys
2. madeup number
3. the US funded osama bin laden and right wing freaks in afghanistan to overthrow the socialist government in kabul, who then asked 3 times (!) for soviet support before the soviets reluctantly acquiesced… then, the same fucking bourgeois real estate freak (Bin Laden) that the CIA funded to overthrow socialism in Afghanistan got about 20 dudes, most of them saudi, to do terror attacks in America, prompting America to invade… Afghanistan….

the only equation you should be making between the soviet "invasion" of Afghanistan prompted by Operation Cyclone and the US invasion of Afghanistan is that they were both America's fault.

>>2677319
>made up greentext
>ragebait assertion
>taking bourgeois propaganda at face value

>>2677305
The more one side seeks to differentiate itself from the other, the closer they become. Narcissism in a nutshell.



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A ‘Great Recession for white-collar workers’ is absolutely possible

https://fortune.com/2026/03/06/ai-job-losses-report-anthropic-research-great-recession-for-white-collar-workers/

https://www.anthropic.com/research/labor-market-impacts


its over, AI is going to decimate the PMC class and take their jerbs
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>>2729193
Sure, but the Western left has no shortage of intelligentsia.

I do imagine the "UBI" solution could backfire by giving potential revolutionary classes enough leisure time to organise instead of being perennially exhausted

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>>2728032
a manga's gonna oversimplify, don't have a cow, maaaaan

>>2728813
The mode of production switching is what galvanizes revolution. The Marxists of the past were doing wishful thinking that the mode of production was switching earlier than it was in reality. But now with the rise of AI the mode of production is absolutley switching and the more superfluous the working class becomes it diminishes the exchange value that underpins all hirearchy. The bourgeois is outnumbered vastly by the proles and once all their monopoly money becomes worthless nothing can stop their destruction.

>>2727175
Couldnt these be doumbfounded expectations based on the fact that AI is currently the biggest financial bubble in, at least, recent history? I am asking honestly here. Certainly, there are a lot of piggies who really want that graph to be real, so i suspect that there is a lot of capitalist hope and optimism influencing these prospects

>>2729193

Pipe down, pencil pusher. Without blue collars, lumpens, and the low-waged and partially employed your revolution gets stomped on. Physically flattened. Can't even defend itself from a couple reactionaries in a parking lot, let alone real serious reactionary heat. Statistically ppl who work with their hands, or don't work at all, they know violence. They grew up in it and were odds with the system their entire life. White collars and academics grew up easying climbing the ranks of obedience school. The workers who never made it through the education system? Those are the people who've been tested. By fire. By struggle. When fists start flyin' or bullets start poppin', they don't freeze. They keep moving. And it's not just fighting. Blue collars know how to move physically As a team. Physically is the big part. In the world. Building shit, locking shit down, holding the line. You can't teach that in a library.

Without em? Your revolution's just a book club for privileged typists who can lecture all day but can't defend a door, can't build a barricade, can't build nothin rreal.



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The notion of a vanguard is not a notion of a political elite, though it can decay into one, but rather it is a notion of a highly developed strata of professional revolutionaries who guide the proletariat simply because of the fact that they had better access to political education. Sometimes this is described as "the most advanced section of the proletariat" but we often find not merely highly educated and motivated proletarians in the vanguard, but also plenty of bourgeois class traitors in (Engels), class traitors from the nobility (Felix Dzerzhinsky, Zhou Enlai) peasants (Lenin, Mao), the child of a plantation owner (Castro), and petty bourgeoisie (Marx himself, at least the young Marx, before his exile and relative poverty and England).

In the 19th century and early 20th century, this vanguard naturally contained many class traitors, since political education was rarely extended to the working class. Marx had maids, even in his apartment in London, and Lenin employed housekeepers even in his exile to a cabin in Siberia. This was a group of unusually educated professional revolutionaries who did so much reading, so much writing, so much public speaking, and attended so many meetings, that they did not have time to cook their own meals, do their own laundry, wash their own dishes, and could not have done so even if they wanted to. They needed help with basic domestic tasks from the very workers they wanted to liberate.

Today it is different. The worker can listen to the entire Marxist-Leninist canon as audiobooks while attending to the menial tasks which occupy daily life, both at work and at home. The worker can publish their thoughts to a site such as this easily, without needing access to a publishing company or a printing press. A worker can attend a party meeting in the form of a video call, while driving. This enables the worker to be every bit as involved in the theoretical half of the class struggle (reading theory, writing theory, speaking publicly, attending meetings) as they already were in the practical half of the class struggle (working, striking, fighting, dying). This calls into question whether the vanguard is the individual in a suit sitting in an office publishing theses against bourgeois rivals while servants bring tea and warm meals, or whether the vanguard is the individual who listens to Marx and Lenin while washing dishes.
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>>2701160
There’s not gonna be an alternative when nukes fly and the entire population of the global south is forced northward and oil runs out

>>2700837
Marx and Engels were never the vanguard, and as far as Lenin and the other key figures of the RSDLP who lived in exile, they were not even close to the whole vanguard. The real vanguard was sleeping on the floor of poor workers' homes while organizing study circles among factory workers. They were smuggling literature, setting up clandestine printing presses piece by piece, forging documents to get comrades across state lines or out of prison, etc. I agree broadly though that in the modern day we don't need saviors from a higher class, since literacy is widespread. Just from the more educated, literate, and politically lucky among the working class. All of the past revolutions can be thought of as nationalist first and communist second. The only one that doesn't fit this mold so well is the Russian revolution, but if you look from the point of view of the soldiers calling for peace before they're wiped out and peace is settled by terms set by Germany, and the bourgeoisie was calling for Germany to come save them from revolution, and even the bourgeoisie were attempting to kill the bourgeois revolution and were against a republic, it makes more sense that while the previously small and relatively junior bolsheviks did take the reins of the situation, the people who gave them their power, the soldiers, peasants, and workers, were not communist first.

>>2700882
The coming communist sneakernet will be glorious and unstoppable

>>2700895
The guy who got kicked in the head by a horse is the vanguard if he picks up a gun. You're conflating the ideological leadership with the vanguard as a whole.

>" Specifically, I wholly agree with you that special stress should be laid on the tasks connected with the work on an all-Russian scale and with the work of the Party as a whole; in your draft this is expressed in Clause One, which reads: “The newspaper Iskra, which has permanent correspondents among the workers and close contact with the work within the organisation, is the leading centre of the Party (and not only of a committee or a district).” I should merely like to remark that the newspaper can and sho
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>>2701393
communism isnt an ideology

>All of the past revolutions can be thought of as nationalist first and communist second

lol yeah i "can" also "think of" things as something entirely different, wouldnt change the actual reality of it though

>The only one that doesn't fit this mold so well is the Russian revolution

oh you mean the only one that led to an actual DOTP? interesting!

>>2700837
The future vanguard party is going to be a Twitter or Discord GC and I'm all for it except for hoping Discord dies



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How To Destroy Imperialism And Get Rich While Doing It

Step 1: Borrow Imperialist Stocks (military industrial complex especially) (avoid AES stocks and Communist stocks like Chinese stocks)

Step 2: Sell them on the market

Step 3: destroy imperialist factories affiliated with the companies you borrowed stocks from. (bonus: get rightoids to do it. say the companies are Woke or something)

Step 4: Stock price plunges

Step 5: buy back the shares cheap

Problem, imperialism?

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jewish nigger chicken jockey thread

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troll physics thread

>>2742567
This looks like gambling to me



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What is your thoughts on the Los Angeles Maoist Red Army? Ive been it around discord lately and wanted to know what it is and what you guys think about it?
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Cult

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>>2738746
FBI why did you do this?

>>2739534

it seems like the feds like to MK ULTRA anarchists and maoists the most, but why!?!? There's been a few "anarcho" esque groups, that engaged in some serious acts, but devolved into cult like activity and behavior.

>>2738746
>Schizo-Nazism with Amerikkkan characteristics



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Stalin
>The struggle that the Emir of Afghanistan is waging for the independence of Afghanistan is objectively a revolutionary struggle, despite the monarchist views of the Emir and his associates, for it weakens, disintegrates and undermines imperialism; whereas the struggle waged by such "desperate" democrats and "Socialists," "revolutionaries" and republicans as, for example, Kerensky and Tsereteli, Renaudel and Scheidemann, Chernov and Dan, Henderson and Clynes, during the imperialist war was a reactionary struggle, for its results was the embellishment, the strengthening, the victory, of imperialism.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/ch06.htm

Trotsky
>In Brazil there now reigns a semifascist regime that every revolutionary can only view with hatred. Let us assume, however, that on the morrow England enters into a military conflict with Brazil. I ask you on whose side of the conflict will the working class be? I will answer for myself personally—in this case I will be on the side of “fascist” Brazil against “democratic” Great Britain. Why? Because in the conflict between them it will not be a question of democracy or fascism. If England should be victorious, she will put another fascist in Rio de Janeiro and will place double chains on Brazil. If Brazil on the contrary should be victorious, it will give a mighty impulse to national and democratic consciousness of the country and will lead to the overthrow of the Vargas dictatorship.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1938/09/liberation.htm
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>>2741979
>leftcoms are armchairs

>>2741979
My country the US is at least bombing Iran and possibly if given air cover will help a Kurd offensive on the Iranian border. If that actually happens in the coming days I won’t be disappointed with my government. So as a supporter of the so called “left coms” I am not unhappy right now.

>>2738366
Khomeini:
>communism advocates the sharing of all things – including wives

Marx:
< "But you Communists would introduce community of women," screams the bourgeoisie in chorus. The bourgeois sees his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women. He has not even a suspicion that the real point aimed at is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production

>>2737912
Yeah? And? Stalin is le bad.

>>2737912
And lenin said that anti imperialism is a sham and a humbug, now what?



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Destroy capitalism and replace oil with hemp. No more need for petroleum based plastics, papers, toilet papers, foam, cardboard, COVID masks and other materials and hempseed oil can power a G20 diesel engine (like a BMW G series) if you ran it carbon negative with biochar and ethanol transesterification and a mechanical manual oil presser for the seeds. You can make hemp biodiesel this way. Will need to mix in lye and other ingredients. Could also be carnon neutral if you used methanol. Only difference is carbon neutral releases no carbon into the atmosphere, carbon negative absorbs carbon from the atmosphere - could cause global cooling and Ice Age if this were as widespread as petroleum engines.
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>>2741674
For writing on hemp paper.

>>2741162
you just run into the problem that arable land and water needed for food get taken over by your "biofuel"

Malthusian OP

We gotta be careful with the smell.
I bought some hemp beer once and that shit smelled like stickiest of icky. Not that it's bad but some people may not like it.

>>2742535
india is good



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