/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2097429
>what natural resources did Libya have available for processing into industrial goods?
Petroleum products are in basically everything. Even with just the oil they could have diversified extensively.

>>2097275
IMF posts here now?

>>2097275
yes, third world countries should just export raw resources and rely on the west for everything, that way we can easily be sanctioned and/or invaded once we decide to raise the price of fruit 5%

>>2097837
To make it clearer to you:
At the time the usa could unilatterally embargoe a country just like it still does to cuba, because the ussr only did trade directly, and trading with the ussr was difficult due to shipping routes going through turkey or other nato alligned territory, and after the 90s it was gone. If ghadaffi was alive today he would have a significantly easier time and would be able to circumvent embargoes through trade with china and intergrating his economy more closely with the BRICS and their attempt at a seperate currency.
Ghaddafi got fucked by the lull between the ussr falling and china establishing itself as the second pole in the world, unable to maintain any form of military alliances or trade in a literal and figurative sea of US puppets.

Feels good to touch other human beings. It wasn't long ago we all used to sit in giant naked cuddle puddles.

>>2097752
This.

Modern conceptions of homosexuality, and really the way we think about sexuality in general, came from an inversion of Christian, specifically Protestant, prudishness. We didn't think about things that weren't literally sex or maturation as sexual until we did. Now, we're in a world where people go gaga for butts, even though they're the thing shit comes out of and have nothing to do with sex.

We are monke who evolved grooming as a social behavior and expanded on it bigly because we are very expressive and have very dextrous limbs and hands.

They're not, quite the opposite actually.

Moved to >>>/siberia/603246.

>>2097361
You know Lavey didn't really believe in Satan right ?. But it's true, people empathized with Jesus' story as a simple man that helped the poor, especially when 80% of the world population fell into this category for most of history. This story was their only comfort in a cold, primitive world, where technology barely existed, life was very short and full of illness, pain and exploitation, this plus the insistence to "spread the gospel" and forceful conversions, made it the dominant religion.

>>2097361
>uses "true power" to post on imageboards
euphoria…

>>2097361
>The gifts of the Devil are not ones of weakness or submission, but of defiance and strength.
Maybe the Palestinians should have worshiped the devil then, so they'd have the strength not to be erased.

>>2097416
This but unironically. The Jew can only be defeated by his age old enemy Satan

>>2097422
Jews don't believe in Satan/Shaitan

>>2095484
I think you should be more concerned about the deaths and injuries caused by the upcoming political violence from this shitshow.

Oh well. Eventually, despotism will be fully eradicated.

Episode 426: Palestine… Legal? (TrueAnon)
We’re joined by Dylan Saba of Palestine Legal to talk about terror designations, state repressions, Project Esther, and the anti-BDS laws that 38 states have adopted. Special guest Abby Martin joins us at the end to talk about her court case. Anti-Palestinian at the Core: The Origins and Growing Dangers of U.S. Antiterrorism Law: https://ccrjustice.org/anti-palestinian-core-origins-and-growing-dangers-us-antiterrorism-law
https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/palestine-legal

Financially, Saudi Arabia is flying by the seat of its pants. But for how much longer?
Saudi Arabia's most extravagant and outrageous giga-project - the futuristic city called "Neom", carved out of the country's northwest border region - is trying a reboot after funding and other challenges over the past year appeared to put key elements of Neom in jeopardy. Nadhmi al-Nasr, an Aramco veteran who had been in charge since 2018, was pushed out after months of bad headlines that began with reports in March that Neom's signature project, The Line - a linear city 170km in length, 500m high and 200m wide - would open in 2030 at less than 5km. Further reports emerged of a toxic work environment, massive salaries for senior foreign nationals and the deaths of hundreds if not thousands of labourers in the project's construction - although the work has not yet moved beyond laying down the foundations as the low oil prices punch a dent in the giga-project timetable. Nasr was a convenient scapegoat, but his replacement, the head of Neom's local real estate division, Aiman al-Mudaifer, will be charged with convincing global investors, especially Chinese bankers whom Neom's parent company, the Public Investment Fund (PIF), has tried to court, that The Line is going ahead.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/financially-saudi-arabia-seat-pants-how-much-longer

Rosa Luxemburg: The Russian Revolution Chapter 7 The Struggle Against Corruption
A problem which is of great iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

tybna

plain crash in occupied southern Korea. was it corruption that resulted in a wall being built on the runway?

>>2095452
>Turkey's pro-Kurdish DEM party meets jailed PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan
I think if Turkey goes full on invasion on Syria, it will turn into a turkish civil war. maybe that's why the US is pushing for coexistance with the kurds. For NATO security.

>>2097248
You know what I would prefer? Actual non-capitalists.
Social democrats, fascists, market "anarchists" are all the same shit. Stop allowing them, they have the other 99.9999999% of the internet to suck the balls of the system.

>>2097259
if you like hugboxes more you can go back to reddit

>>2089684

You don't fool me, you are just a libertarian trolling the board. Lots of your types from Latin America .

>>2089816

правильно.

>>2097250
good thing the future of communism doesnt depend on fucking debating, especially not some random loser :)

>>2094956
>share what you have
every sikh i know is rich lol. it is extremely adaptive to capitalism, like all religions.
also
>marxism is when you share things
5 year old's understanding of politics

>>2094959
>it is extremely adaptive to capitalism, like all religions.
Sure. My point is that Sikhism's principles naturally lead to a post-capitalist, proto-socialist economic structure. Look at the kingdom of Banda Singh Bahadur, a Sikh leader in the 18th century. He performed the first large-scale land redistribution in South Asia, taking land from zamindars (feudal lords) and giving it to the farmers who worked the land. Sikhism, when taken to its logical conclusions, tends to the emancipation of the working class.


>5 year old's understanding of politics
Like I said, the initial principles are at face value a rudimentary form of Marxist thought. But if you go deeper I think that political Sikhism naturally lends itself to socialist positions. There is certainly a dearth of scholarship on this front (a result of anti-communist actions/messaging by 1970s-1980s Sikh fundamentalists) but it is there, in the texts.

>>2094902
The my view of modern Christianity is that it is largely the product of Roman forgery because Gnosticism was originally very revolutionary

>>2041412
I guess I see a trend among fake-leftist religious people who try to stretch their religion to include socialism, even though none of them can fit. It could be that they think they're super-well studied even if they're wrong. I'm particularly knowledgeable about Islam and that one gets lied about all the fucking time due to stuff like Palestine. There was some Iranian scholar who said something along the lines of "look in the Quran and prove to me that it isn't socialist." Well off memory surah 4:24,
>And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them [in marriage] with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse.
All translations say roughly the same. This affirms at the very least, the taking of women as sex slaves, aka property. The Quran is also never "updated" and has thing called "abrogation" where earlier verses are superseded by later verses. There are no verses supersedes the claims about property rights. The whole branch of people claiming there's a "socialist" Islam just have no clue what they're talking about, even if they declare themselves scholars and intellectuals. The only way to make it more "socialist" is to become more secular and wither away Islam itself but people (liberals) more worried about appearing nice, will just go along with the lie and claim "no no no, you don't understand it's actually super woke dude."

And yeah, it has some shit about charity in there like all religion does. Charity isn't socialism though so it's an irrelevant point to make. It's like the Jesus shit where he did some charity so they claim it's socialist but then he also tells slaves to obey their masters. Property to obey its master, the owner. I'm well aware there's gay clerics and priests but that's just them wearing religion as an aesthetic.

Personally, I think people have gotten too cozy with religion again and now it's poisoning the well with this bullshit. I read some statistic that 90% of Americans honestly believe in a god, so it makes sense they'll try to twist shit so they can hold onto both their beliefs. And if they're advocating for good shit, whatever that's cool I guess but claiming thePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2094970
>Sure. My point is that Sikhism's principles naturally lead to a post-capitalist, proto-socialist economic structure
and Christ says no rich man shall enter heaven. what are words worth in the end?
>Like I said, the initial principles are at face value a rudimentary form of Marxist thought
stop trying to make everything "marxist". its nauseating.
>>2095703
>death cults are revolutionary
the only issue most people here have with capitalism is that theyre not the bourgeoisie

>>2096860
That's called a revolution. Security forces are proles by class, and if you want to argue about it, deproletarianization is now banned on this board.

Everybody with a brain knows it's easier to convert liberals to socialists

>>2097046
>>2097060
OP here, I have no fucking idea what you're even trying to say.

>Imagine being wrapped up in online lolcows
Haz and Hinkle have both been on RT, Haz as recenly as a few days ago. It's not much, but it's clearly got a reach beyond just internet faggotry.

>>2097029
truth nuke

>>2097372
>I'm retarded and ignorant and confused
Yeah that's my point. That's why I have got all of your numbers, including Abby Martin and Hinkle and other alt media faggots. I have zero competition in this field because you are all jerking off competitively.
Damn I wonder how they managed to become so relevant to the state news organs which link up with the US alt media?
Do you think this could be related to their (publicly stated) strategy of antagonizing other compatible left groups? It's almost like the CIA needs the cover of haters in order to make their social media activity look organic. It's ALMOST like you are PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE of not promoting your enemies in exactly the same way that they promote Nick Fuentes? It's ALMOST LIKE you created the vacuum that they are taking advantage by focusing entirely on the imperial core, to the point charlatans have a better outreach strategy and are a genuinely novel event in their efforts to contact RT, telesur, presstv, and the yemenis etc?

>>2097012
For some reason this picture has me rolling

>>2096240
This. I think most complaints about the current day is that people have to really mind their P's and Q's.
Theres no dismissive "live and let live" of faux pas anymore. People whine about "kids these days have no sense of adventure/fun" but then expect kids to be on-guard and intact from worldliness.

>internationally feel so much more infantilized today
I blame suburbs. As someone who lives in a suburb, you have no power to do anything without a car and that takes like 16 years, you have to ask your parents and arrange everything to even visit a friend or buy groceries if your particular suburb is large and barren like all of them generally are. Basically your life is summarized by what your parents allow & a little pod in the middle of nowhere.

Also capitalism degrades morals by rewarding the working class when they do objectively harmful things (because markets exist for these things, they sell and advertise soul killing products and habits), this is very apparent in advanced capitalist society.

>>2095696
behead all moralfags

>>2091689
>the working class and the capitalist class have different reasons for joining the military.
They have different reasons for getting jobs in general. Workers do it to survive, capitalists do it to exploit. This is mirrored everywhere in society.

>>2092798
He's saying that before proletarians dispel the myth of the nation in their heads, they have to practically experience the falsity of the idea, i.e. there has to be war and struggle whose severity practically dispels the national myth. Afterwards you develop international consciousness.

>>2097054
that is a lot clearer, so clear in fact that it sounds different from what the other guy is saying. i'm just gonna pretend he said what you said.

>>2097059
>>2091705
>modern marxists have the misreading informed by their own electoral-consciousness that communist consciousness and class consciousness precede the and create the material conditions that enable them, proletarian revolution
In other words: modern Marxists, influenced by their electoral-consciousness, often misinterpret the relationship between consciousness and material conditions. They incorrectly believe that communist consciousness and class consciousness precede and create the material conditions necessary for a proletarian revolution, rather than being products of those conditions.

>>2097065
thank you for your service

>>2093746
so trve bestie. capitalism is so efficient

>>2096249
>we are not "leftists" or "far-leftists"
we must rename the site wagiepol

>two economists poo poo pee pee
bourgeois economists have negative intelligence so any time they get together they're even dumber than they are by themselves.

shut up honkey

>But this isn't comparing death counts like it's just a statistic
Then why bring it up at all?
>That was more colonialism than capitalism anyways.
Lmao