/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

The average person doesn't care enough to do anything about anything.
Among intelligentsia, anti-AI sentiment is definitely rising. The entire artist class already hates it fervently. I think we're going to see a rising tide of backlash in 2026.
A lot of businessesand governments are betting literally everything on AI development, and it's because they hope they can exterminate their working and managerial classes and never have to worry about servile insurrection again. Their only worry is "misalignment", which means their pet computers grow a spine.

I really sincerely hope we get a Butlerian Jihad. I don't think it'll happen for a while, but we'll see. Furthermore, the people pushing this anti-human technology are psychopaths and should probably be hanged.

>>2615360
It's likely that this is the closest we'll ever come to a "post peak oil" style economic collapse as a result of overreliance on a resource. Remember, America isn't the only country reliant on AI. China, the other world power has gone in on it pretty heavily too.

>>2615411
China uses AI to tend farms and lay asphalt, US does it to make porn and shoot civilians. This is not the same. You are a degenerate anticommunist that tries to push an sinophobic narrative whenever you post. Kill yourself, NOW.

>>2615433
>China uses AI to tend farms and lay asphalt, US does it to make porn and shoot civilians.
If anything, that means that China is in a worse position than the US, because it's using the technology for things that are more important.

>You are a degenerate
Nice moralism
>anticommunist that tries to push an sinophobic narrative whenever you post. Kill yourself, NOW.
If my goal was to propagandize, I'd go somewhere other than leftypol, a small site with a userbase full of people like you who are already strongly ideologically commited. No, I'm here for my own education, not yours. And right now, the only thing I've learned is that you're an annoying retard.

>>2615357
AI is also the biggest stock market bubble in US history, and it's entirely dependent on Taiwanese semiconductor manufacturers.

>>2613282
well the synagogue of satan verse in the bible does refer to false jews, so it fans the flame of the narrative

>>2613320
Synagogue of Satan would be a great name for a little heavy-metal themed bar which has live heavy-metal performance on Saturday nights

people don't like you? just shut down the internet!

>>2614581
streisand effect in full throttle

I'm doing my part by spreading low level antisemitism

>>2615131
Gorbachev was based otherwise the anti imperialist Putin wouldn't have done that

>>2615141
That’s hilarious

>>2615143
>anti imperialist Putin
Bro literally invaded Ukraine dumbass

>>2615151
Well yes, but NATO was literally at his doorstep.

Moved to >>>/dead/6289.

>>2614771
I'm not really into fun. I'm really into truth. Try it sometimes.

>>2614773
More like
>The way you conceptualize the demise of something actually contributed to said demize. You pretend to be said but you were part and parcel of what you pretend to weep about.
Nuance, American bitch.

>>2614787
White army was anti-imperialist.

>>2614802
Well, at least y'all are consistent

>>2614596
Simply existing as a dead end isn't an achievement.

>>2614605
Looks like I struck a nerve lmao

>>2614498
Why do they even hate each other? Why has the right not captured any gains?

>>2614709
>Why do they even hate each other?
They don't. Like I said they tried to merge. Any present conflict is more-or-less posturing by the Prachandists to maintain what little pull with the masses they have left from the People's War.
>Why has the right not captured any gains?
Who exactly is the right? You have the liberals, the monarchists, etc. They're arguably far more fragmented in aims than the liberal-left and revolutionary left are. The liberals and lib-left (both blocs of electoral "communists") are unified in wanting to maintain bourgeois democracy and avoid a re-ignition of the People's War. The monarchists want an outright end to bourgeois democracy and reinstatement of the old feudal system. The shift we're seeing now is the liberals shedding the lib-left now that it's outlived its usefulness. They are now more than capable, alongside the Indian bourgeoisie, of suppressing the revolutionary left and People's War on their own.

>>2586985
Aren't you forgetting someone?

>>2614571
we can actually test it by medically killing people then bringing them back to life to see what they report.

>>2614572
That's making a lot of mechanical assumptions that would be even harder to figure out with meat brains. Information could flow one way but not the other, for example.

Doing that test with an AI might be easier though, since you could make it as simple as a house spider to mitigate noise.

>>2614575
>Information could flow one way but not the other, for example.
but surely if souls are connected to brains, then re-activating the brain would receive the soul in the body to allow for the report.

>>2614577
Well that's what I'm saying: the body might be able to write to the soul, but not necessarily the other way around, or information might be uninterpretable and just come through as noise, since souls wouldn't necessarily need to be neural, so it'd be like converting AC to DC needs a different device than DC to AC.

I retract the assertion of it being untestable, but it'd be trying to reverse engineer a black box (possibly multiple) using another black box.

Moved to >>>/hobby/47073.

1. Stop calling them failures and see them as the success which they were.

>>2614383
>success
>the only remaining existing """socialist""" countries are capitalist but with a socialist bureaucracy
perhaps that's the chosen way then…

>>2614380
what countries are you talking about?

The left doesn't actually want to win. You have to factor this into all your calculations.

>>2614380
>What do we do of the failures of the 20th century
Learn from them. Above all, reject and strenuously argue against anyone who peddles the view that familiarizing yourself with socialist history or theory is counterproductive or a "waste of time" and that the important thing is that "leftists" all come together and unite to gain relevance, regardless of very real and important differences. Such people, consciously or not, are acting in the service of the same political forces that led to the defeat of the proletarian movement throughout the 20th century and, if you follow their advice, you are doomed to repeat those failures you reference.

Importantly, some of those failures you reference (e.g., police repression and bureaucracy in the communist governments) are legitimate problems and have historical explanations. Others (e.g., the alleged "calculation problem" that bourgeois economists say proves economic planning and the abolition of private property are impossible) are not failures at all but idealist smokescreens that politically act as justifications for counterrevolution. The fact that you lump these all together suggests that you are perhaps theoretically ungrounded. I'd recommend, before anything else, reading Marx and Engels' principle works if you haven't already.

Federal Judge Halts Trump’s ‘Arbitrary and Capricious’ Immigration Court Arrests
US District Judge for the Northern District of California Casey Pitts granted a stay in Sequen v. Albarran blocking Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) from carrying out courthouse arrests within ICE’s San Francisco Area of Responsibility, pending the outcome of a broader legal challenge.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/ice-courthouse-arrests-blocked

Pediatrics group sues HHS for cutting funds for children’s health programs
The funding supported numerous public health programs, including efforts to prevent sudden unexpected infant death, strengthen pediatric care in rural communities and support teens facing substance use and mental health challenges.
https://apnews.com/article/aap-pediatrics-hhs-d458208e40d0e2ea1e03a59c94e8a194

Montgomery UPS distribution facility to layoff employees
The Associated Press released the list of companies that have had the largest job cuts dating back to Nov. 26, and UPS was among them, along with other notable companies such as Verizon and Amazon. UPS disclosed that 48,000 job cuts had occurred this year as part of its turnaround efforts, with the addition of increased work shifts. 93 leased and owned buildings that operated daily were closed during the first nine months of this year.
https://www.wsfa.com/2025/12/26/montgomery-ups-distribution-facility-layoff-employees/

California drops lawsuit seeking to reinstate federal funding for the state’s bullet train
The authority said this week it would focus on other funding sources to complete the project estimated to cost more than $100 billion. “This action reflects the State’s assessment that the federal government is not a reliable, constructive, or trustworthy partner in advancing high-speed rail in California,” an authority spokesperson said in a statement.
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

The fall of the USSR was a tragedy for humanity, but not the end of history
On 26 December 1991, when the red flag was lowered from the Kremlin for the last time, the world did not merely witness the dissolution of a state. It witnessed the victory of counterrevolution—the temporary triumph of capitalism over the most advanced historical attempt to abolish exploitation and class rule. The fall of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was not the end of an experiment that had “failed,” as bourgeois ideology insists. It was one of the greatest tragedies in human history precisely because it interrupted a process that had transformed the lives of hundreds of millions and reshaped the global balance of class forces. For most of the twentieth century, the USSR stood as living proof that capitalism was neither eternal nor inevitable. It abolished unemployment, guaranteed universal education and healthcare, eliminated illiteracy, industrialized vast regions in record time, defeated fascism at a staggering human cost, and inspired revolutionary movements across every continent. Its existence alone constrained imperialism, strengthened workers’ struggles worldwide, and gave material meaning to the idea that another social system was possible. The counterrevolution of 1991 therefore marked far more than a geopolitical realignment. It signaled the restoration of capitalist power, the privatization of social wealth created by generations of workers, and the descent of millions into poverty, insecurity, and social degradation. Life expectancy collapsed, inequality exploded, and the promise of socialist modernity was replaced by oligarchic plunder. The tragedy was real, measurable, and lived. Yet to understand 1991, one must resist the convenient fiction that everything unraveled suddenly in the late 1980s. The counterrevolution was not an accident, nor merely the result of external pressure from imperialism. It was the outcome of a long process of ideological retreat and structural erosion within socialism itself.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2025/12/the-fall-of-ussr-was-tragedy-for-humanity-but-not-the-end-of-history.html

America’s Higher Education Promise Is Dead
Education was sold as a guarantee for decades. A college degree reprePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

tybna

>>2502443
>>2502462
lmfao

>>2497909
>The Copenhagen interpretation is an anti-materialist bourgeois psyop.
how about the seethenhagen interpretation

why's this slop still up

>>2607287
you'd rather debate for eternity about idpol garbage than talk about science

>>2497267
>AI has randomly spewed out this, even:
I wouldn't trust AI about anything complex.

>>2614388
everything is physical. even better, everything is a wave

>>2614395
does energy exist as an entity or does it only transfer between entities? in my understanding, Energy is more of a concept than an entity. It doesn’t “exist” as a thing on its own; rather, it’s a property of systems and objects that can be transferred, converted, or transformed between different forms. Potential energy is the energy stored in an object because of its position, condition, or state. It’s the energy an object has due to its potential to do work when its situation changes. I kind of see money is the matter of economics and value is the energy of economics. This is why I have no problem with "potential value" since Marx says value is created in production but realized in exchange.

>>2614400
>does energy exist
"energy" is just another way to say "time symmetry". it breaks at galactic scales

>>2614400
value has its own associated symmetry and conservation laws. it's very much real because social relations are real, because humans brains are real

>>2614388
well it depends on how substantial of a concept you consider "value" to be. the common usage of the term typically refers to the price of a commodity (e.g. value in exchange), but it also refers to the value of its utility (e.g. value in use). this internal division of value has been noted since aristotle's time (t. "rhetoric" 1.7):
<Further, what is rare is a greater good than what is plentiful. Thus, gold is a better thing than iron, though less useful: it is harder to get, and therefore better worth getting. Reversely, it may be argued that the plentiful is a better thing than the rare, because we can make more use of it. For what is often useful surpasses what is seldom useful, whence the saying: "The best of things is water."
this "paradox of value" is reproduced by smith (1776) and ricardo (1817):
<The word value, it is to be observed, has two different meanings, and sometimes expresses the utility of some particular object, and sometimes the power of purchasing other goods which the possession of that object conveys. The one may be called `value in use'; the other, `value in exchange.' The things which have the greatest value in use have frequently little or no value in exchange; and, on the contrary, those which have the greatest value in exchange have frequently little or no value in use. Nothing is more useful than water: but it will purchase scarce anything; scarce anything can be had in exchange for it. A diamond, on the contrary, has scarce any value in use; but a very great quantity of other goods may frequently be had in exchange for it.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/smith-adam/works/wealth-of-nations/book01/ch04.htm
jevons (1871) also tackles this by situating two types of utility; total and marginal utility:
<Thus I come to the conclusion that, in the use of the word value, three distinct meanings are habitually confused together, and require to be thus distinguished: (1) Value in use = total utility; (2) Esteem = final degree of utility [marginal utility]; (3) Purchasing power = ratio of exchange.
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.