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Large Brazilian union rejects Petrobras proposal to end strike
Sindipetro-NF is the largest union under FUP, an umbrella organization for oil workers. FUP's board had accepted the Petrobras proposal, but the matter still had to be voted by workers themselves. While all other 13 unions under FUP voted to end the strike, the Sindipetro-NF rejection means the protest is set to continue in at least some sites. Not all unions representing Petrobras workers are under FUP, however. The board of a different umbrella organization, FNP, has voted to keep the protest going, advising unions under it to do the same.
https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/large-brazilian-union-rejects-petrobras-proposal-end-strike-2025-12-26/

Five Deported Mexican Minors Found Alive in Tabasco
The missing persons report was filed Wednesday by Mexico’s National Migration Institute (INM), prompting the activation of an Amber Alert to locate the adolescents. “The teenagers were being transferred to the Celia Gonzalez de Rovirosa shelter. However, when they were taken off the vehicle transporting them, they ran away,” the prosecutor’s office said. The six youths are originally from the states of Tamaulipas, Chihuahua and Coahuila, but were expelled from the United States and transferred to the southern state of Chiapas.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/five-deported-mexican-minors-found-alive-in-tabasco/

Some Tate Workers’ Salaries Are Less Than Their Directors’ Bonuses
The strike lasted a week, beginning on 26 November and finishing on 2 December, after Tate’s Public and Commercial Services (PCS) union members had voted 98% in favour of it on a turnout of 87.7% after rejecting Tate’s offer of a 3% pay rise, well below inflation for the second consecutive year.
https://novaramedia.com/2025/12/23/some-tate-workers-salaries-are-less-than-their-directors-bonuses/

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Federal Judge Halts Trump’s ‘Arbitrary and Capricious’ Immigration Court Arrests
US District Judge for the Northern District of California Casey Pitts granted a stay in Sequen v. Albarran blocking Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) from carrying out courthouse arrests within ICE’s San Francisco Area of Responsibility, pending the outcome of a broader legal challenge.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/ice-courthouse-arrests-blocked

Pediatrics group sues HHS for cutting funds for children’s health programs
The funding supported numerous public health programs, including efforts to prevent sudden unexpected infant death, strengthen pediatric care in rural communities and support teens facing substance use and mental health challenges.
https://apnews.com/article/aap-pediatrics-hhs-d458208e40d0e2ea1e03a59c94e8a194

Montgomery UPS distribution facility to layoff employees
The Associated Press released the list of companies that have had the largest job cuts dating back to Nov. 26, and UPS was among them, along with other notable companies such as Verizon and Amazon. UPS disclosed that 48,000 job cuts had occurred this year as part of its turnaround efforts, with the addition of increased work shifts. 93 leased and owned buildings that operated daily were closed during the first nine months of this year.
https://www.wsfa.com/2025/12/26/montgomery-ups-distribution-facility-layoff-employees/

California drops lawsuit seeking to reinstate federal funding for the state’s bullet train
The authority said this week it would focus on other funding sources to complete the project estimated to cost more than $100 billion. “This action reflects the State’s assessment that the federal government is not a reliable, constructive, or trustworthy partner in advancing high-speed rail in California,” an authority spokesperson said in a statement.
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The fall of the USSR was a tragedy for humanity, but not the end of history
On 26 December 1991, when the red flag was lowered from the Kremlin for the last time, the world did not merely witness the dissolution of a state. It witnessed the victory of counterrevolution—the temporary triumph of capitalism over the most advanced historical attempt to abolish exploitation and class rule. The fall of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was not the end of an experiment that had “failed,” as bourgeois ideology insists. It was one of the greatest tragedies in human history precisely because it interrupted a process that had transformed the lives of hundreds of millions and reshaped the global balance of class forces. For most of the twentieth century, the USSR stood as living proof that capitalism was neither eternal nor inevitable. It abolished unemployment, guaranteed universal education and healthcare, eliminated illiteracy, industrialized vast regions in record time, defeated fascism at a staggering human cost, and inspired revolutionary movements across every continent. Its existence alone constrained imperialism, strengthened workers’ struggles worldwide, and gave material meaning to the idea that another social system was possible. The counterrevolution of 1991 therefore marked far more than a geopolitical realignment. It signaled the restoration of capitalist power, the privatization of social wealth created by generations of workers, and the descent of millions into poverty, insecurity, and social degradation. Life expectancy collapsed, inequality exploded, and the promise of socialist modernity was replaced by oligarchic plunder. The tragedy was real, measurable, and lived. Yet to understand 1991, one must resist the convenient fiction that everything unraveled suddenly in the late 1980s. The counterrevolution was not an accident, nor merely the result of external pressure from imperialism. It was the outcome of a long process of ideological retreat and structural erosion within socialism itself.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2025/12/the-fall-of-ussr-was-tragedy-for-humanity-but-not-the-end-of-history.html

America’s Higher Education Promise Is Dead
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No man has been slandered so much in the history of science. The class enemy and their pseudo-intellectuals pour mud and shit on the man who dared to call a spade a spade - that biology is on firm Marxist-Leninist principles. That we did not create Marxism-Leninism, but that it is Marxism-Leninism that created us. Dialetical materialist understanding of the flora and fauna was forged with Great Darwin’s evolution theory. It was sharpened into a fine blade Engels’ brilliant ‘Part played by labour in the transition from ape to man’. Comrade Lysenko gallantly wielded the Immortal Science and embarked on steppe-wide crusade against scarcity amd famine. And the treat lovers hated him for it, they still do. No, no, no! No abundance of wheat, rice, and corn for the asiatic hordes and the African specimen! How dare they! Funko Pops for me, Famine Poop for thee! By burying Lysenko , and promoting Monsanto debauchery in the fields, by bullying Bohm-deBroglie and promoting the Heisenberg-Bohr mystic mafia in reactors, the Treatlerites secured the Century for themselves. But we must not be afraid. We must uphold the Great Men of Science. As Neruda’s pen truthfully carved: To be Man - that is the Stalinist Law !
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>>2497909
>The Copenhagen interpretation is an anti-materialist bourgeois psyop.
how about the seethenhagen interpretation

why's this slop still up

>>2607287
you'd rather debate for eternity about idpol garbage than talk about science

>>2497267
>AI has randomly spewed out this, even:
I wouldn't trust AI about anything complex.



 

The LTV was used mainly to defend the exploitation theory. Its role in it was to point out the difference between the labor-power and the labor value, the latter being created by the former. The argument was that the bourgeoisie could appropriate itself the surplus value in exchange of wages (labor value when exchanged for money - labor-power value [wages]) and that the proletariat couldn't decide for itself given that it lacked the means of production.
The counter argument to the LTV was essentially that value was determined subjectively. But even then, without the LTV, you can still have an exploitation theory. Objectively, you can still say that the workers are coerced into accepting their wages mainly because they don't themselves dispose of the means of production. Even in a marginalist conceptions, the workers produce goods that are worth more than their wage, and the surplus goes towards the bourgeoisie.

Shouldn't we aim at proving that the workers don't have a say in how the revenue is distributed, and that their wage doesn't signal a "time preference" but rather a systemic coercion by a lack of ownership ?
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>>2614388
everything is physical. even better, everything is a wave

>>2614395
does energy exist as an entity or does it only transfer between entities? in my understanding, Energy is more of a concept than an entity. It doesn’t “exist” as a thing on its own; rather, it’s a property of systems and objects that can be transferred, converted, or transformed between different forms. Potential energy is the energy stored in an object because of its position, condition, or state. It’s the energy an object has due to its potential to do work when its situation changes. I kind of see money is the matter of economics and value is the energy of economics. This is why I have no problem with "potential value" since Marx says value is created in production but realized in exchange.

>>2614400
>does energy exist
"energy" is just another way to say "time symmetry". it breaks at galactic scales

>>2614400
value has its own associated symmetry and conservation laws. it's very much real because social relations are real, because humans brains are real

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>>2614388
well it depends on how substantial of a concept you consider "value" to be. the common usage of the term typically refers to the price of a commodity (e.g. value in exchange), but it also refers to the value of its utility (e.g. value in use). this internal division of value has been noted since aristotle's time (t. "rhetoric" 1.7):
<Further, what is rare is a greater good than what is plentiful. Thus, gold is a better thing than iron, though less useful: it is harder to get, and therefore better worth getting. Reversely, it may be argued that the plentiful is a better thing than the rare, because we can make more use of it. For what is often useful surpasses what is seldom useful, whence the saying: "The best of things is water."
this "paradox of value" is reproduced by smith (1776) and ricardo (1817):
<The word value, it is to be observed, has two different meanings, and sometimes expresses the utility of some particular object, and sometimes the power of purchasing other goods which the possession of that object conveys. The one may be called `value in use'; the other, `value in exchange.' The things which have the greatest value in use have frequently little or no value in exchange; and, on the contrary, those which have the greatest value in exchange have frequently little or no value in use. Nothing is more useful than water: but it will purchase scarce anything; scarce anything can be had in exchange for it. A diamond, on the contrary, has scarce any value in use; but a very great quantity of other goods may frequently be had in exchange for it.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/smith-adam/works/wealth-of-nations/book01/ch04.htm
jevons (1871) also tackles this by situating two types of utility; total and marginal utility:
<Thus I come to the conclusion that, in the use of the word value, three distinct meanings are habitually confused together, and require to be thus distinguished: (1) Value in use = total utility; (2) Esteem = final degree of utility [marginal utility]; (3) Purchasing power = ratio of exchange.
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Redpill me on farmers. What's the deal with modern farmers in the west?

Redpill me on farmers. What's the deal with modern farmers in the west?

Redpill me on farmers. What's the deal with modern farmers in the west?
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>>2607593
Not if the condom broke

Reminder that since there are no peasants in the west anymore, what is called 'farmer'is in fact a kulak. They are farm owners, not workers. The workers are in great majority poor illegal migrants with no rights whatsoever. A principled communist must be for dekulakisation. If the USSR in 1928 was already 'ripe' for dekulakisation, advanced modern Europe and NA have no excuse to keep pampering these bloodsuckers.

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>>2604728
Farmers I know just work the land but dobt own it. Still they are petit-bourgeoisie as they own their tools (tractors, combine harvesters) bought with tax dollars.




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ITT: we come up with direct replacements for misleading, recuperated, overly-verbose or scary socialist terms.

This isn't for anti-censorship codewords or downplaying our values, this is about sharing words and phrases that avoid someone mid-conversation having to ask "what the fuck is a 'proletariat'?", and "aren't dictatorships bad, even if the dictator is a proletarian?", confusions which could all be avoided by not being out-of-touch academic wankers.

comic rel is obviously a joke, don't be an idiot and waste time critiquing it.
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>>2568420
vanguard (of the working class) -> forefront, thought leaders, natural leaders

disambiguate private/personal property into personal property (things you own and use) and socially productive property (things that produce goods or services for the market)

organize (as an imperative) -> find out how you can support local socialists/communists/anarchists/people-feeding-the-hungry

organize (as an answer to "how can you make this happen?") -> connect with likeminded people, educate others, defend and support the vulnerable and poor in our communities, fight fascism, win the people's trust, govern by putting the working class's needs first, step by step transition to socialism

mass line -> solicit complaints and get to the root of problems

proletariat -> working people

bourgeoisie -> the super-rich

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>just go back to pre-scientific socialism, let's mistify Marxism even more, let's just confuse the everliving shit out of everybody instead of just taking the Communist Programme and its language - this will SURELY help the movement
are you all retarded? genuinely asking?

>>2570944
There's so much aggregated crap, wrongheadedness, disastrous failure, backwards-looking cultishness, and go-nowhere definition debates that it's easy to answer your strawman question with: yes.

There is no movement. There are barely movements capable of building the groundwork for a movement. There are millions of good people who basically vibe with the idea of socialism/communism, which is when the world isn't as shit as the status quo, and there are hundreds of thousands of stupid idiots (many on this website) who are very arrogant because they've got ideas and words floating about in their do-nothing heads. Knowing that the dictatorship of the proletariat is a special snowflake meaning of dictatorship different to the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein (wait, no, critical support for him against US imperialism!) or whatever does nothing to bring communism any closer.

Point me to a real movement that abolishes the present state of things. $80 if you pick something other than a foreign government which conveniently lets you outsource your ideological battles like they're the manufacture of cheap cutlery.

>>2568432
That is not how the average normie will react. It's probably just going to make them more confused.



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It doesn't matter: our entire societal system is fundamentally unfair and built on deception.

True merit-based justice largely vanished with the end of the Paleolithic era. Hunter-gatherer societies maintained actual equality through mobility, immediate-return sharing, and active resistance to dominance—creating an immediate, authentic egalitarianism rooted in face-to-face relations.

Anthropological evidence from modern foragers and archaeological insights suggests low inequality, with mechanisms like ridicule or ostracism preventing hierarchy.

The Neolithic Revolution introduced agriculture, surpluses, and storable wealth around 10,000 years ago, enabling private property, land accumulation, and deepening stratification.

This trend intensified over millennia, entrenching systemic unfairness.

Marxist communism cannot replicate this authentic Paleolithic egalitarianism, as it advocates a large-scale, anonymous societal machine, ultimately producing new hierarchies, as historical implementations and critiques (e.g., anarchist views on state coercion) demonstrate.

This isn't a left-right issue: both sides accept the post-Paleolithic framework, debating adjustments rather than its core inequities.
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>>2614431
even if they weren't perfect, they still had less inequality than, for example, the USA. Soviet education was free, soviet healthcare was free. In China today, homeownership rate is higher and homelessness lower. You can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. That sounds liberal, but I'm using it to contrast proletarian dictatorships with bourgeois dictatorships, rather than contrasting two bourgeois parties.

>>2614429
Life in the Paleolithic era was certainly harsh and short. But the people in Paleolithic society had real, organic solidarity. Modern Marxist solidarity, by contrast, is an artificial, anonymous product. Ironically, it is completely alienated because it is the product of anonymous power structures. What good is material prosperity to us if we lack true solidarity and have only a cheap, artificial imitation of it?

>>2614439
mystical ouin ouin

>>2614425
>Both systems are essentially the same: anonymous machines of exploitation
Marx says:
<What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges. Accordingly, the individual producer receives back from society – after the deductions have been made – exactly what he gives to it.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm

>In a Paleolithic society, I would have had the opportunity to punch anyone directly in the face who harms or oppresses me.

it would be laughably easy for you to die as an infant before having the "opportunity" to do anything since infant mortality was very high. You would also have the "opportunity" to be molested or maimed by your parents and tribe since there are no legal proceedings against such behaviors. You would also have the "opportunity" to get killed by a wild animal as a child, die of starvation when local forage is depleted, freeze to death due to inadequate clothing, or die of a simple rhinovirus.

>>2614439
>What good is material prosperity to us if we lack true solidarity and have only a cheap, artificial imitation of it?
I would much rather have clothes and shelter and be able to argue with you over the internet than have "paleolithic solidarity" whatever that means. See >>2614442



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Russian opposition leader sentenced to six years in prison
Sergei Udaltsov, the leader of the Left Front movement that opposes Putin and is affiliated with the Communist party, was arrested last year. … Udaltsov has rejected the charges against him as fabricated. On Thursday, he denounced the verdict as “shameful” and said he was going on a hunger strike, Mediazona reported. According to the court ruling, the activist will be serving his sentence in a maximum security penal colony.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/25/sergei-udaltsov-terrorism

Northern Ireland: Two Irish Republicans Sentenced to Long Prison Terms
Shea Reynolds and Dee (Damian) Duffy, Irish republicans sentenced to 11 and a half and 12 and a half years in prison respectively, received their sentences on December 19, 2025, following a trial held before a court without a jury in Belfast. They were accused of installing a surveillance camera in the driveway of a retired police officer’s home in Northern Ireland to gather information for an operation against him.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/26097/

Four Palestine Action hunger strikers vow to continue as two pause protest
“The remaining four will continue to refuse food on the basis of [their] demands,” the group said on Tuesday.
The hunger strikers are demanding immediate bail, the right to a fair trial, and for the UK to de-proscribe Palestine Action, which it outlawed as a “terror” group in July. For their part, the pro-Palestinian group says the UK government is complicit in Israeli war crimes committed in Gaza.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/24/four-palestine-action-hunger-strikers-vow-to-continue-as-two-pause-protest
https://archive.ph/jTrsy

Russia reportedly mediating security pact between Israel and Syria with US approval
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US Sends Special Operations Aircraft to Puerto Rico for Venezuela Campaign
Five MC‑130J Commando II aircraft were identified in satellite imagery this week by open‑intelligence analyst account LatAmMilMVMTs, which tracks military movements across Latin America, showing them parked at Rafael Hernández International Airport in Puerto Rico.
https://www.newsweek.com/us-special-operations-aircraft-puerto-rico-venezuela-campaign-11269962
https://archive.ph/GNeoO

Trump says US launched strike against ISIL in northwest Nigeria
Trump said ISIL fighters had “‌targeted and viciously” killed “primarily, innocent Christians, at ⁠levels not seen for many years, and even Centuries!” “I have previously warned these Terrorists that if they did not stop the slaughtering of Christians, there would be hell to pay, and tonight, there was,” Trump said.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/25/trump-says-us-launched-strikes-against-isil-in-northwest-nigeria
https://archive.ph/nNRNr

US labor unions gear up to fight against Trump’s ‘Billionaire First’ agenda
Donald Trump has staged a year of “unrelenting attacks on working people,” according to the head of the largest federation of the labor unions in the US. Now they’re preparing to fight back. Liz Shuler, president of the AFL-CIO, said it was gearing up to challenge the US president’s “Billionaire First” agenda in 2026 – and drive candidates in key elections to stand up for “struggling” Americans.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/25/trump-labor-unions-afl-cio

US judge rejects business group's challenge to Trump's $100,000 H-1B visa fee
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Episode 65 - No Future feat. Adam Curtis (12/12/16) (Chapo Trap House )
We got to interview one of Will’s favorite filmmakers Adam Curtis about his new movie HyperNormalisation. We talk about Trump, the curse of bloodless liberalism, science fiction, Escape From New York, living in the Zone, and tough medicine for the left.
https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-65-no-future-feat-adam-curtis-121216
[HyperNormalisation]: https://archive.org/details/hyper-normalisation-2016-subs-by-adam-curtis-a-different-experience-of-realit

Redacting Our Reality, One Epstein at a Time
Another Lucy with the football moment has occurred in the United States. Less than 1% of the Epstein file information has been released, and what was offered to the public emptied out all the black ink cartridges in the greater DC area. This, in a long line of dashed liberal dreams, whether it be Special Counsel investigations, the hope of criminal charges when new administrations come in…any number of just wait a bit and your patience will be rewarded aspirations. But the thing is, this day of reckoning just never seems to materialize. This realization only lands after countless hours, days and weeks are spent waiting for Daddy to come home and make it right. By the time this is understood, a new hope is on the horizon—perhaps an unrigged primary, a new set of possible criminal charges for war crimes. This time will be different, they think. This is the way most human minds seem to work. If you aren’t getting justice today, just wait. It will show up eventually., You will be rewarded in the afterlife or perhaps post-midterms. Just not today.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/12/25/redacting-our-reality-one-epstein-at-a-time/

Left? Right? Anti-semitic? Not anti-semitic?
Traditionally, the far right has been the main repository of anti-semitic ideas (conspiracy theories, Holocaust denial, racial stereotypes) and practice (discrimination, abuse, physicPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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How is mathematics as something that is free of contradictions able to reliably describe the material world that is inherently founded on contradictions, as dialectical materialism claims?
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>How is mathematics as something that is free of contradictions
Unprovable statement, dummy

>>2611764
truth nuke. perfectly put.
>>2612366
he couldn't answer.

>>2609070
Absolutely nothing in this world is free of contradictions

>>2612700
only if you stop thinking immediately: it follows that mathematics is tautologically that which is not contradictory.

>>2614033
even this statement?



 

>Liquidators
<Guys who wanted to do everything legally with no illegal work
>Recallists
<Guys who wanted to do everything illegally with no legal work

How was this even a controversy in the RSDLP? Like obviously you need to do both legal and illegal work. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills learning about this shit.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1911/jun/18.htm

>“renunciation of the illegal Social-Democratic Party, the belittling of its role and importance, attempts to cur tail the programmatic and tactical tasks and slogans of revolutionary Social-Democracy” are a manifestation of bourgeois influence over the proletariat. The only true Social-Democratic activity is that which recognises the danger of this deviation and of any ideological and political trend that is otzovist or justifies otzovism, and which really overcomes such deviations.


>Anyone who to this day regards “otzovism” as a “legitimate trend in our Party” takes the name of the R.S.D.L.P. in vain. You cannot conduct Party work in the elections to the Fourth Duma unless you most resolutely refuse to have anything to do with such people. He who to this day talks of conducting the Fourth Duma election campaign with the forces and resources of “legally functioning organisations”, with the forces and resources of an “open workers’ party”, and who at the same time refuses to abide by and carry out the decisions of the R.S.D.L.P. on the illegal organisation and the tactics as set forth in the Party’s resolutions, takes the name of the R.S.D.L.P. in vain. He who carries on election activity and does not abide by the decisions of the R.S.D.L.P., but follows the line proposed in articles appearing in Nasha Zarya, Golos Sotsial-Demokrata and Dyelo Zhizni, is a builder of a Stolypin “labour” party, and not of the revolutionary Social-Democratic party of the proletariat.

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99% of Leninists quit just before the struggle becomes illegalist enough to overthrow existing conditions



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>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


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>>2613416
Grow up!

>>2613417
>said unironically after coming to the defense of a guy arguing that I "resemble zionists" because I said a basic fact about US history (it was founded as a secular bourgeois republic with freedom of religion)

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>>2613656
Keep wrecking

>>2613309
Just normal non-liable sexual harassment, though there's something weird going on behind the veil because a bunch of former LTT hosts have being fired and have since started their own youtube channels over the last few months. Like 3 or 4 regular hosts.



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