/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2484747
>>2484747
>>2484747
COAL

>>2539489
I think this does a lot to explain a lot of the Japanese socialists-turned fascists. I always saw Inejiro Asanuma as a very confusing figure but now he seems very coherent.
Basically, pre-fascist Japanese Communists were not really amongst the proletariat, they were mostly intellectuals.
By the way one of the only Japanese works on marxists.org is a guy complaining about this and begging for more integration with the masses https://www.marxists.org/nihon/yamakawa/1922/00001.htm
These intellectuals, as that pdf depicts Takabatake, did not arrive at socialism from class-consciousness, or a desire for internationalism, but rather because they saw the impending catastrophe that capitalism was bringing to Japan and saw communist development as a way to secure the Japanese national project in the face of this incoming disaster.
Hence, Asanuma joins the Labor-Farmer Party, Takabatake translates all three volumes of Capital, etc etc.
But then, Japanese imperialism really ramps up in the 1930s. All of a sudden, the Japanese bourgeois politicians go from hapless in the face of the catastrophe, to worshipping the military and pushing for imperial conquest. It seems like the crisis of Japanese capitalism can be resolved without socialism after all, by subjugating Asia.
So, all of these socialists, who care first and foremost about the Japanese national project, decide that the imperial path to resolving the crisis is far more feasible than the socialist path, and decide to convert to the most enthusiastic supporters of imperial conquest. For example, Takabatake establishes the Kenkokukai and Asanuma leads the charge in expelling Saito Takao from the National Diet after he questions the war.
Then, Japan surrenders. The Imperial path becomes completely off the table, and Japan is occupied by the United States, which waves the threat of incorporating various islands as UN trust territories. So, being genuine nationalists (I don't use that as a positive, just as a differentiator from the LDP politicians), they decide that the most feasible way to create a secure Japanese national state is to completely backpedal, Asanuma becomes a leading voice in the Pacifist movement and in cooperating with the PRC and the rest of Asia. InternationalPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2548306
>These intellectuals, as that pdf depicts Takabatake, did not arrive at socialism from class-consciousness, or a desire for internationalism, but rather because they saw the impending catastrophe that capitalism was bringing to Japan and saw communist development as a way to secure the Japanese national project in the face of this incoming disaster.

isnt this most succesful socialist revolutions? It seems nationalism and socialism ironically fit together the most

>>2548383
Yes, but if that's your only principle, it can also lead to siding with fascism if that seems a more feasible solution.

>>2535988
this

>>2531200
so you dont know either, meaning you're useless

>>2528717
I think the real takeaway is that while reformist politics can do a lot to advance the position of workers and peasants in imperialized countries, it ultimately faces the exact same limitations as social democracy in the first world.

rip bolivian social democracy

>>2552351
This used to be a pretty common take or at least a widely held perception of how humanity would turn out.

>>2552434
When does Hasan pretend to be religious? From my understanding he's non-practicing. A lot of the Muslim stuff he says as a bit. He does shit on atheists fairly often which is annoying (considering atheists are statistically far more likely to agree with him on pretty much every issue).

>>2552437
>When does Hasan pretend to be religious?
>He does shit on atheists fairly often

You just debunked yourself.

Honestly I'm tired of the Hasan glazing in here, yeah he's good on 50% of shit but some of you all white knight this one demsoc streamer who doesn't understand any Marxist theory so hard.
Why? Because his haters are r-tarded MAGA fanatics and zionists? Because he's hot? Actually listen to his takes please.

A general prohibition of child labor is incompatible with the existence of large-scale industry and hence an empty, pious wish. Its realization – if it were possible – would be reactionary, since, with a strict regulation of the working time according to the different age groups and other safety measures for the protection of children, an early combination of productive labor with education is one of the most potent means for the transformation of present-day society.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/append.htm
I think every child above the age of nine ought to be employed at productive labour a portion of its time, but the way in which they are made to work under existing circumstances is abominable.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/iwma/documents/1868/machinery-speech.htm

Love the H3 podcast
Anything other than socialist democracy doesn't work
People who love regimes while living in a first world country are cringy as hell

>>2550572
>Surely you mean the class consciousness of the workers
No, I am talking about Marx:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch01b.htm

>The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force.

my god, go outside. talk to people, look at people.
for instance, when people see a rich person they treat it with respect. no matter if the underlying reason of his wealth was a product of thievery, stealing labor, stealing surplus value, corruption, pyramidal schemes, preaching in the name of Jesus without quoting the bible.
and see how the same people treat a person dirty with cement, raggy and faded clothes, disheveled.
that's because the ruling class is capitalist.
Whether zohran can exert some influence or not, that's the question. if he becomes another aoc, another bernard, then the people will be disfranchised in their quest for a relief, and vote for a cretin, just like trump success happened.

that you don't understand the basics of US politics, is appalling. And through Marxism is the only way you can effectively understand it.

>>2549290
Why did you put this fake quote/headline in the OP?
JFC why does this site fall for fake shit all the time? inb4 "uh uh uh we knew it was a joke" no you didn't. inb4 "it's so silly that you thought that we thought it was real, that shows how naive YOU are" cope

I've read bits and pieces about the NYC DSA being firmly in the grasp of the DSA right, here's to hoping that some people up there manage to either dislodge the right or create enough momentum outside of it to keep the city officials in line

>>2549889
When are we going to send the Indians to reeducation camps to make them abandon their reactionary faith? Just like what China is doing to the Islamic Uygurs?

>>2552056
made up shit anon didn't say award.
try quoting what was actually said next time.

The USSR became imperialist in nature near its collapse (and agruable eariler).

While i understand what OP means, and I agree I wouldn't say feds are pushing this, proles in exploited countries are saying this, and they are right that westetn bourgesisie are profitting off of them, they neglect the fact the western proles are also exploited (although to a slightly lesser extent). I said this on another thread eariler but it is true and many maoists have this belief

>>2552059
India
Sudan
Afghanistan
Vietnam
Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Haiti
Romania
Democratic Republic of Congo
Cambodia
Indonesia
Thailand

>>2552515
>Afghanistan
>Democratic People's Republic of Korea
>Romania
Service economies. DPRK and Afghanistan have literally the highest numbers of small markets in the world and Afghanistan is expanding into tourism and accommodation and other bs.

>the rest
Excluded by me initial post, since they're like the 10 out 100 third world countries where the service sector isn't dominant.

>>2552459
>The USSR became imperialist in nature
nah, it never was, it was always giving more than it received from its bloc

Those are rather nice anon. I collect communist and communist adjacent paraphernalia when I can get my hands on it. Here's a picture of some pins I got in berlin

>>2552363
beautiful

>>2548805
Weren't Marx and Engels (especially Engels) sort of Pan-Germanists as well?

>>2548805
>le horsefaced woman in robes as a representation of a country x1000
why are euroids so uncreative?

>>2549113
Based Hepp-Kexel-Group got it right

I'm against it because Germany is basically an entire nation of redditors

Nazi thread dni

In February this year, a 23 year old man from Tierra del Fuego Argentina traveled to Russia following an internet ad about free college education for foreigners in Ekaterimburg(?) University. He wanted to travel and explore the world. When he arrived he was asked to sign papers he couldnt read and was sent to a training camp for 3 weeks and from there to Donetsk. He managed to contact his family and begged them to get him out. His father is pleading the Russian ambassador to let his son go home. According to the message recieved by his parents, he arrived to Ekaterimburg university with a group of foreign students, mostly brazilians and they were all tricked in the same way.

https://www.losandes.com.ar/sociedad/es-argentino-se-fue-estudiar-rusia-y-termino-error-la-guerra-ucrania-el-pedido-la-familia-n5968879

>>2551641
Literally every Zigga here is honest about supporting Russia against Ukraine, typically as a means to an end.
That's not the case with the vast majority of the "anti-campists" and "true" leftists, who are not honest about the fact that they're actually supporting Ukraine against Russia. This is evident from at least two facts: (1) their commentary is completely lopsided against Russia to the point of never saying a harsh word about Ukraine; (2) their activity in /ukr/ is disproportionately centered about moments of high-grade Ukro hopium, whereas a genuine anti-campist with no dog in the race would have more uniform temporal behavior, posting during both moments of Ukro hopium and Ukro doom, for the simple reason that such moments don't motivate his or her ideological stance.

>>2552266 (me)
…oh, and (3): some of them don't even bother to change their /uhg/ filenames.

>>2551117
she makes me think of carrie in homeland

>>2551701
It's very funny that elected officials are crashing out like this publicly on social media over nothing. Oh no the new AG of Virginia was mean in private text messages lmao.

Soon

>>2551701
DARK WOKE IS BACK AND I THINK ITS FUNNY

YouTube Removed Hundreds of Videos of Israeli Human Rights Violations to Comply With Trump Sanctions
In compliance with a Trump administration effort to punish critics of Israel’s genocide in Gaza, YouTube has deleted the accounts of three prominent Palestinian rights groups, wiping several hundred videos documenting Israeli human rights violations in the process.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/youtube-deletes-videos-israel

US Starbucks workers prepare to strike if contract is not finalized by next week
Unionized Starbucks baristas voted to authorize an open-ended strike ahead of Starbucks’s high-traffic holiday season, announced Starbucks Workers United on Wednesday. The union said workers are prepared to strike if a contract is not finalized by 13 November, which is the company’s Red Cup Day, and strike actions could hit more than 25 cities and escalate if there is a lack of progress.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/nov/05/starbucks-baristas-union-strike-contract

FAA to cut flights by 10% at 40 major airports due to government shutdown
The closure has also raised concerns about already thin staffing among air traffic controllers, the FAA said. Insufficient staffing at some FAA facilities has disrupted some flights since Oct. 1. Earlier this week, Duffy told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that he could “shut the whole airspace down” if the shutdown drags on.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/05/faa-cuts-flight-capacity-shutdown.html

Chicago day care worker detained by immigration agents at drop-off time for children
The employee ran from a vehicle into the Rayito de Sol Spanish Immersion Early Learning Center after officers pulled into the parking lot right after her, Alderman Matt Martin said, citing witness accounts. The employee was detained at the entry while telling authorities she has papers, he said. Authorities went inside to question several people around 7 a.m., when the facility opened, according to witnesses.
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Tuesday’s Election Result Is a Rebuke of Trump More than an Enthusiastic Embrace of Democrats
The election results in Virginia, New Jersey, and New York have put wind in the sails of a Democratic Party that has been on the defensive since Trump’s re-election. For the more moderate Democratic Party pundits and politicians, the victories confirm their belief that a populist, anti-woke platform is the way to go. Spanberger opened her victory speech with the assertion that her campaign “sent a message to our neighbors and across the country…and the whole world, that in 2025 Virginia chose pragmatism over partisanship.” Sherrill, for her part, centered her acceptance speech on “prosperity,” tying appeals to America’s “democratic” tradition to people’s need for economic security. She added that the election shows that “we’re not going to give into our darker impulses,” without naming the transphobic, racist, and anti-immigrant vitriol which defined much of her Republican opponent’s campaign and Trump’s politics. Democratic Representative and House Speaker Hakeem Jeffries, who two days ago told CNN anchor Jake Tapper that the future of the Democratic wasn’t Zohran Mamdani, but the House Democratic caucus, said on Tuesday night that Democrats “won all over the country talking about the affordability crisis.” An ABC News article confirms that the races in Virginia and New Jersey centered on the issue of affordability, but the discourse about how to resolve it is much different in these states than in New York.
https://www.leftvoice.org/tuesdays-election-result-is-a-rebuke-of-trump-more-than-an-enthusiastic-embrace-of-democrats/

Italian Fascists’ Love Affair With Israel Started Long Before Giorgia Meloni
Few nations have such a disconnect between the public and the state when it comes to Palestine as Italy. The Italian government is one of just three – the others are Germany and the United States – that have continued to supply major conventional weapons to Israel since 2020. Alongside attack helicopters, naval guns and parts for Israel’s F-35 fighter jets, Italy’s prime minister Giorgia Meloni has continued to provide diplomatic cover to her Israeli counterpart Benjamin Netanyahu, refusing to take even the symbolic step ofPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>Colombia releases US drone strike survivor, claiming no evidence links him to drug trafficking
Casually repeating imperialist framing.

Fuck you, bad news anon! You suck!

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