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 No.1269820[Reply]

This thread is for all the small things that the march of capitalism has trampled on.

Next to the local national supermarket, there's a little dispenser machine run by a food recovery organization. They get all the oranges that the supermarket was going to throw out because they don't look perfect on the outside, you pay the machine, and the machine juices it in front of you. Fresh orange juice.
Well curiosity got the better of me and I bought some and shit, this is a taste I haven't tasted since eating oranges at half time in sports teams a decade and a half agountil people realized that citric acid and sugar is absolute shit for kids' teeth. My parents used to drink orange juice regularly, the premium brand too because one of them lives through making and eating good food, and it tastes nothing like actual juice from an orange.

Imagine that, getting nostalgic over a fresh orange. Sounds like a fucking post-apocalypse novel.

 No.1269851

Isn't that on you for not eating oranges

 No.1269868

>>1269851
Sure, but on the other hand orange juice consistently hasn't tasted much like oranges.

 No.1271018

>>1269868
Makes sense

 No.1271061

>>1269868
I mean sure but mcdonalds also doesn't taste like hamburgers, things can be two different things altogether.

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>>1271061
Sure, but (unless they did that shitty fancy facade campaign there too) McDonalds understands itself to be cheap* "fast food".
It's still bad, especially when you get into how they fuck over even the buns, but orange juice is something so plain and simple.

That said, if it's not because of the reconstitution bullshit but rather because of a sterilization/pasteurization process, for example, then I suppose it's reasonable.



 No.1270420[Reply]

A thread for discussing schizoanalasys and Deleuze and Guttari works .

https://youtu.be/2TE7HFBzf-w

Together whit the idea of combining schizoanalasys whit anarchism to create Somthing that I like to call meta-anarchism wich a new way of anarchist thinking still in efficiency active in few online community’s wich about the idea that anarchism is inherently a multiplicity and such should be enacted in a collage rather then a singularity of anarchy-[BLANK] . In anthore words a anarchy of anarchy’s .
Links to online articles
https://negligibles.medium.com/collage-basic-introduction-to-the-meta-anarchist-political-vision-f61a549ad059
https://negligibles.medium.com/introduction-to-anarchization-cfa7f001faef
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 No.1271031

>>1270633
i always liked this claim by deleuze about how his books should be read. More than his books (which i also only got partway into ATP, and just honestly got really bored and annoyed with a failure to communicate anything new or detailed).

To rephrase it simply: either a book is a thing which you look for claims and knowledge within, or a book is itself a thing which acts (and not acknowledged here, but also that is a possible subject of analysis, as something really existing in the world and not just an attempt to explain things existing in the world).

As a way of reading a book: good and bad. Tbh i'd rather have a rich flow of information, which requires shared language (not just shared vibes). It seems like a long way to say "i wrote how i felt and pieces of information and thoughts i collected over the years - do with it what you will", which is basically an acceptably modest presentation, and more honest then people who do the same but want to seem scientific and be taken very seriously. Personally, i don't have the will to sort through this froggy's flow of shit, tho. I'd rather have my books be like, actual collations of decades of research and concrete analysis, put forward in clear language. That's a million times harder to write, and more useful.

FWIW everything i got out of deleuze (that i could make out) is basically just a more confused (or confusing, ig) version of dialectical materialist insights, which u can read with more clarity from others. And I think there's one other special value in the 'second type' of reading, which is that its ability to act as a mirror to your own half-comprehended ideas allows you to accelerate your own process of thinking and conceptualizing things that were more abstract to you. So in a way it's hugely valuable on a psychological or individual level i think.

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>>1271021
marxists, yes, but not 'orthodox' ones by any means. rejecting dialectics in favour of spinozism and pic related.

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>>1271035
Understanding desire/sexuality is a chaotic force rather than the typical ML dogma line - brutal repression and reduction into procreation - is an obvious upgrade. They borrow it more from Sade and Reich though.

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>>1270495
Griffith was a deleuzetard, who knew

 No.1271065

>>1270633
Admittedly, reading Deleuze is a meme. Him and his contemporaries are novel interests to me that excite me when I feel unable to take on Marxist works or frustrate me when I have read too much of them.



 No.1267499[Reply]

Cuba welcomes gay rights as progressive family code takes hold
Cuban Pedro Rafael Delgado, a 56-year-old accountant, saw his life change dramatically just days after Cuba approved a set of laws by referendum in September that allow gay marriage. For more than a decade, Delgado, who works at a Communist Party office, lived as "friends" with his 62-year-old partner, Adolfo Lopez. He lacked basic rights and felt shunned even by his own family because of his sexual preference. … Cuba's family code, a set of measures and regulations that establishes the rights of all Cubans, regardless of sexual orientation, to marry and adopt children, changed everything, Delgado says.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/cuba-welcomes-gay-rights-progressive-family-code-takes-hold-2022-11-14/

Brazil’s VP-Elect Demands Access to Amazon Deforestation Data
Brazil's vice-president-elect and coordinator of the transition team of Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva's government, Geraldo Alckmin, asked Jair Bolsonaro's government for access to complete data on deforestation in the Amazon the last year because, in his opinion, these numbers already exist and should be known.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Brazils-VP-Elect-Demands-Access-to-Amazon-Deforestation-Data-20221114-0012.html

Peruvian Amazon Indigenous leaders to lobby banks to cut ties with state oil firm
Native leaders from the Peruvian Amazon are to travel to the US this week to lobby banks to cut financial ties with Peru’s state oil company, Petroperú. Leaders from the Achuar and Wampis peoples say the state company is responsible for oil spills in their territory that violate their human rights by polluting their water sources and irreparably damaging their fishing and hunting grounds. They are also demanding the Peruvian government and banks stop oil exploration and investment in all Indigenous territories in the Peruvian Amazon, the second largest part of the rainforest after Brazil.
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 No.1269944

>>1269918
¿Sabes de algo que esté haciendo el estado, partido o algo así para contrarrestarlo? Cuando Marx hablo de la religión como opio no estaba refiriéndose como algo malo. Tal vez la democratización y proletarización de la religión tiene que ser orden para el siglo XXI

 No.1269968

>>1269937
Here is our Cuba thread, that is a little slow, if you have not come across it:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/971557.html

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 No.1270688

>>1268153
>The first golf war led by the US wasn't imperialist either
Nayirah?

 No.1270693

>>1267499
>But activists and experts consulted by Reuters say the sweeping, government-led campaign to promote the law did more to moderate entrenched homophobia and machismo than the fine print of the code itself - which governs the totality of family relations and not just issues related to sexual orientation.

fucking hate westoids i swear to god



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 No.1268916[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

AKA Potentially Posadist Poland Edition yes I know I already made the aliteration joke

RECENT NEWS

>Two rockets hit grain dryers in Poland on border with Ukraine, Polish radio claims

https://tass.com/world/1537187

>Only tiny fraction of US military aircraft met mission capable rate goals in FY21

https://breakingdefense.com/2022/11/only-a-tiny-fraction-of-us-military-aircraft-met-mission-capable-rate-goals-in-fy21-government-watchdog-finds/

>Britain has frozen 18 billion pounds worth of Russian assets

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britain-says-it-has-frozen-18-billion-pounds-worth-russian-assets-2022-11-10/

>Advisor to Ukrainian President Zelensky: "Actions speak louder than words. We see no signs that Russia is leaving Kherson without a fight."

https://facteroid.com/timeline/5726
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 No.1270446

>>1270439
I was still working on a new bread, should we head for this one?

 No.1270448

>>1270446
make yours

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 No.1270494

>>1270417
>What I find weird is how so many Western leftists apparently think this point has not come to pass, and if you think so that's a tankie position. The way that's especially emphasized in the 2010s of all times is really peculiar to me
You can find certain paralells

<C. German or “True” Socialism


<The Socialist and Communist literature of France, a literature that originated under the pressure of a bourgeoisie in power, and that was the expressions of the struggle against this power, was introduced into Germany at a time when the bourgeoisie, in that country, had just begun its contest with feudal absolutism.


<German philosophers, would-be philosophers, and beaux esprits (men of letters), eagerly seized on this literature, only forgetting, that when these writings immigrated from France into Germany, French social conditions had not immigrated along with them. In contact with German social conditions, this French literature lost all its immediate practical significance and assumed a purely literary aspect.


<[…] The fight of the Germans, and especially of the Prussian bourgeoisie, against feudal aristocracy and absolute monarchy, in other words, the liberal movement, became more earnest.


<By this, the long-wished for opportunity was offered to “True” Socialism of confronting the political movement with the Socialist demands, of hurling the traditional anathemas against liberalism, against representative government, against bourgeois competition, bourgeois freedom of the press, bourgeois legislation, bourgeois liberty and equality, and of preaching to the masses that they had nothing to gain, and everything to lose, by this bourgeois movement. German Socialism forgot, in the nick of time, that the French criticism, whose silly echo it was, presupposed the existence of modern bourgeois society, with its corresponding economic conditions of existence, and the political constitution adapted thereto, the very things those attainment was the object of the pending struggle in Germany.


<To the absolute governments, with their following of parsons, professo
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 No.1270692

>>1270126
The audio has only one stream



 No.1270348[Reply]

UwU choke me daddy Althusser! Tell me about ideology daddy as I get brain damage OwO! Epistemologically break my throat! Tell me about how humanism is heckin' wrong and undialectical!

Harder daddy harder!
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 No.1270403

>>1270398
>>1270398
science as a practice, under a bourgeois mode of production, cannot completely fulfill the promise of the scientific method, because of the inherent influence of the profit-driven mode of production over the execution of the scientific method. Scientists are subject to profit-based incentive structures and will choose what to research on the basis of profit. The bourgeoisie commissions studies which preserve bourgeois power. For every Jonas Salk there's 10 Fritz Habers.

 No.1270409

>>1270402
and yet they claim kim is paranoid for shitting in his own toilet. curious.

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 No.1270620

>>1270403
I was saying the same thing in this thread >>1264798 but the lib mods purged the whole conversation lol
Curious how bourgeois "science" becomes sacrosanct among leftists when the troons are involved.

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 No.1269719[Reply]

The "Global War on Terror" drives me insane to this very day. How did USA/NATO/EU get away with this? Why do their people have the memory of goldfish?

ITT: Discuss the historical memory of the ongoing War on Terror, the lesser-remarked facts of it, etc.
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 No.1269916

>>1269901
Check out this fucking retard.
Go on home burger, go on home.

 No.1269920

>>1269916
I'm new worlder but not an American

 No.1269921

>>1269920
And you should know that north america has basically unaposed fascist gangs, camps on the boarders. a GOP turn to the hard-right.
Fascism never went away in North America but it's current resurgence cannot be ignored.

 No.1269929

>How did USA/NATO/EU get away with this?
I mean why wouldn't they get away with it? What were people supposed to do, call the manager?
If the US and its spawns want to do something they'll do it and most of the world just needs to deal with it.
Seriously what can we even do?

 No.1270572

>>1269719
By intervening, ousting independent leaders, and installing pro-Western lackeys, they clearly got some profit motive behind those war on terror maneuvers.



 No.1270149[Reply]

Hey leftypol serious question,
whats your view of Hong Kong
do you support the protests and movement
do you not?
why or why not
also whats your prediction for their future
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>>1270294
What would happen to this man (tankman) if this was America instead of China?

 No.1270399

>>1270333
>What would happen to this man (tankman) if this was America instead of China?

 No.1270410

I don't support cryptofascists. I don't mourn the loss of a capitalist tax haven.

 No.1271133

Hong Kong has more democracy under China than it did under the UK.
The protestors are banked rolled by the CIA
Fuck them

 No.1271141

>>1270294
I will never not laugh at people who celebrate that iconic image of 'tank man'
He is literally blocking the tanks from LEAVING the square, not entering
What the fuck is he meant to be doing? What is being celebrated?



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 No.1254779[Reply]

what is the most leftist mode of living, city/urban, suburbs, or rural?

Once capitalism is abolished what type of living situation should we dwell in? Medium density walkable mixed use neighborhoods with robust public transit?
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 No.1270065

>>1254858
Why would rural areas have cars? Build a centerlized village with a train station. The only place cars are anyway better than public transportation is on farms. Which should only be used for commercial reasons not day to day transportation.

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>>1254858
American railways in 1861. This was before large scale state interventionism which actually killed a lot of rural lines and replaced them with car infrastructure which ultimately made it so that if you lived in a rural area and wanted to get literally ANYWHERE, you needed the money to buy a car.

 No.1270169

>>1270053
Architecture and Utopia; it's a a good survey and there have been individual studies of some of what's mentioned since it was published. The Sphere and the Labyrinth is equally great but for reasons other than the thread topic.

 No.1270174

>>1254858
My fellow burger have you looked a rail map of your state from a century ago? There's enough extant rail infrastructure in the midwest alone to reconnect hundreds of blighttowns with trams again.

 No.1270179

>>1270174
We're two generations removed from rural interurbans being a thing it's inconceivable to your average person that we ever had them to begin with. With greyhound bus routes shutting down in the previous decade, that sentiment has only grown more pronounced. The problem isn't exclusive to trains.



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 No.1269742[Reply]

Broke: the communist manifesto

Bespoke: the national bolshevist manifesto


Yo this mf spitting frfr on god
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 No.1269772

He also got into the beatniks and the works of Jack Kerouac in the 1950s.

 No.1269775

>>1269768
>there's a universe where someone got Luke Correia to read this

 No.1269824

Smoke: DEMOCRACY MANIFEST

 No.1270092

>>1269742
>Not sharing a pdf
reactionary traitor

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 No.1266550[Reply]

How the fuck did these things stay relevant for decades and influence government policy?
If you go and read any article from picrel or any other foundation funded by a conservative politician or porky, it's so obviously full of bad science, self-referencing (often they don't even bother making shitty sources, just asoomptions), and whiny attacks on anything they decide is le bad at the given moment. Picrel is kind of a meme at this point, but there's still many teachers and professors out there still using these as sources and passing on ideology down the human centipede, not to mention the government sometimes using them to pass whatever they want. How did they get away with it with little to none public outrage?
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 No.1269952

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 No.1269967

Wasn’t the tea party movement entirely the product of a think tank? I’m trying to remember which one.

 No.1269977

>>1269967
more like tard party amirite
are you talking about this?

 No.1270002

>>1269977
>Americans for Prosperity
That’s the one! I’m surprised wikipedia mentions them in their wiki entry now.
I always thought it was horrible how they took smashie terrorism against the East India Company and somehow made it lame.

 No.1270021

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all think tanks should become hotline miami levels



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