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People such as the Italian communists never claimed that its necessary to wait for revolutionary periods before educating and leading the class, there are however limited contexts where which communist intervention can be effective. Marx and Engels agree with the Italian left, as shown in the quote below:

<In Germany it looks more like revolution every day. In Berlin and Barmen menacing crowds of laid-off workers are roaming the streets. […..] I think that in a fortnight the storm will break in Prussia. If this opportunity passes without being used, and if the people allow that to happen, we can then calmly pack up our revolutionary paraphernalia and devote ourselves to pure theory.

— Engels to Marx. 11 June 1866

Of course its necessary for communists to stay in touch with each other, so is collectively working to overcome the challenges we face, but hitting the streets with pamphlets and slogans isn’t always the best option, and tailing bourgeois organizations is off the table altogether. Communists dont chase popularity with a disorganized mass of individuals, they move to lead and intensify the class struggles of workers organized as workers.

The subjective factor of the revolution isn’t floating in the void waiting to be summoned with the right mix of slogans or chants, either the requisite class organization really and concretely exists, or it does not. We either push to reinforce class autonomy beforehand, or nothing happens when tensions run high.
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All of you are getting proletanized by 2050

>>2692357
and people who got just got laid off arent that?

>>2692372
i know the reference but your post is still silly

>>2692276
100% agree

>>2692276
Ok? And?

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>>2692403
my goal is to consume so little and save so much that i never get fully proletarianized and therefore never become exploiter or exploited. why? because i am a coward. Is proletarianization the destiny of most? yes. is it statistically unlikely i will avoid that destiny? yes. am i foolish for even trying? yes. but the exploiter sells the rope he is hung with, and the exploited are the wretched of the earth. if I can avoid being either of those i will.



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why cant the left meet the moment for new theories ?? theirs absolutely no revolutionary theory on the left. just endless history discussion . you all look back when you should look foreword
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If you guys cant understand nuance how about this. The state tskes ownership of businesses snd property and everyone gets one stonk share.

>>2692732
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>>2692814 (me)
Coming back and reading my post again, I realize that I contradict myself a bit when I condemn "arguing about what Marx and Lenin really meant", just before imploring us to learn "our real history".

What I really meant to say was this: we can and should argue about what Marx and Lenin really meant (at interminable length, if needed), but we can't rely solely on what Marx and Lenin said: both existed as participants in a thriving socialist movement, and we need to evaluate their arguments in the context of what their political allies and opponents were doing. It is no longer enough to quote Marx and Lenin and thereby rest your case: you have to reconstruct why their arguments were relevant then, and why exactly you think they remain relevant today. I've got to go now, but a perfect example would be Marx's reply to the Gotha Unification Program: Marx's arguments should be considered, but so should the immense empirical evidence that the Gotha Program did work to unify and dramatically grow the socialist movement.

Lenin's strategy was historically specific to Russia in the early 20th century, a basically pre capitalist state. The fact that people in advanced western societies still advocate this strategy is beyond retarded.
Larping as if unions "soviets" or the need to advance the productive forces is at all relevant and necessary. The technology to make communism is already possible.

>>2692984
I've been reading a book, "Armed Insurrection", put out by the soviet union/comintern (mostly written by Tukhachevsky), and it seems to draw the totally wrong conclusions from their recent history. Like the bolsheviks spent a long time building up the Red Guards, and that's ultimately what saved the soviets and won them the popularity to lead them and thus win over the soldiers, the rest being history. The book, which tries to be a guide for other communists to follow, focuses heavily on slogans and showcases the comintern-pushed totally unprepared insurrection in germany in 1921 or something where they literally armed union workers with clubs and then tried to start a country-wide insurrection that would lead to them taking power by simply declaring it in one city where they didn't even know if they had any armed (with clubs!) and supportive workers. The literally fired the guy in charge when he started training people with guns. Then put him back in charge and told him "insurrection by tomorrow, glhf". And it failed, obviously. They seemed to have no clue what Lenin's method actually was.

This fact seems super relevant to the question of tactics among revolutionary communists, especially maoists, who contrast the "leninist insurrectionary" method with mao's ppw. Even the comintern didn't know what lenin's methods were and how to successfully replicate urban insurrection! Plus there was no contest of governments in germany at the time, huge L. Imagine if the bolsheviks simply declared an insurrection before the soviets even existed and without the militia that stood down Kornilov. In September 1917 lenin writes about how it would have been wrong to begin insurrection even a few months earlier, in July!

So my point is… the words of our past revolutionaries might be worse than worthless, actually dangerous, if we don't analyze them in context of the actual history of what happened and base our understanding on that.



 

Are there legitimate reasons for leftists to oppose biracialism?

A lot of Black liberationists (including Frantz Fanon) have brought up the issues with inter-racial relationships on the basis they are largely a product of colonialism and imperialism. Colonized peoples face tremendous pressure to change themselves to be more palatable to whiteness. This includes being in romantic relationships with who’re people and having babies with whites.

That may not seem like a big deal but it actually matters a lot. Black intergenerational wealth is one such issue. When a rich or upper-middle class Black guy has children with a white (or non-Black) woman, his wealth gets passed down to mixed hands, not Black hands. This makes it much harder for the Black community as a whole to acquire intergenerational wealth since all of their wealth is being inherited by biracials. Black biracials who were raised by white mothers in particular also report feeling huge psychological problems because their white mothers always held them to white cultural norms and deprived them of their blackness. Plus, there is a huge attempt by the white supremacist media to highlight biracials as opposed to actual Black people. Look at how Drake and Kehlani are propped up by pop culture as opposed to authentic Black people like Doechii.

Personally, I think leftists need to start being critical of this phenomenon since it has implications for liberatory politics and anti-imperialism. Groups like the NOI have always opposed biracial baby-making and I think we should learn from them.
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> has children with a white (or non-Black) woman, his wealth gets passed down to mixed hands, not Black hands.
this happens very frequently in latin america as any successful person from from low class native/black/mestizo background marries into the criollo upper class and so do their children with the end result being that everyone is "technically" mixed but the upper classes have way more european ancestry and they all worship and identify with european/american culture first

>>2692890
Malcolm X was biracial.

>>2692890
This is quite literally the Black capitalist argument.

>intergenerational wealth

Dropped


You support racial segregation because you hate blacks.
I support racial segregation because I don't want minorities to be consumed by mayo ghouls.
We are not on the same side, but maybe we should be.



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UK terrorism ban on Palestine Action group unlawful, court rules after appeal
Britain's ban on pro-Palestinian campaign group Palestine Action as a terrorist organisation was ruled unlawful by London's High Court on Friday, though the ban will temporarily remain in place and the government said it would appeal against the decision. Palestine Action was proscribed in July, having increasingly taken "direct action" against Israel-linked defence companies in Britain, often blocking entrances or spraying red paint.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/uk-terror-ban-pro-palestine-group-unlawful-court-rules-after-appeal-2026-02-13/

Reform UK passes ‘extreme risk’ budget at flagship local authority
Opposition parties at Kent County Council warned the 3.99 per cent council tax increase would leave reserves “dangerously low” and the authority’s “highest ever exposure to financial risk” totalling more than £410 million on the risk register. The levy is 1 per cent less than the limit before a referendum is required.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/reform-uk-passes-extreme-risk-budget-flagship-local-authority

Macron calls for 'mandatory electoral bans' for people guilty of anti-Semitic or racist acts
He also attacked what he described as "far-left antisemitism", saying it "rivals that of the far right", and "anti-Semitism that uses the mask of anti-Zionism to advance quietly". Macron also said he wanted "mandatory electoral bans" for officials guilty of "anti-Semitic, racist, and discriminatory acts and remarks".
https://www.france24.com/en/france/20260213-macron-calls-for-mandatory-electoral-bans-for-people-guilty-of-anti-semitic-or-racist-acts
https://archive.ph/CkYH0

Technologists, scientists oppose CICC’s move to blocPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2691325
So we're invading cuba next

thank you news anon

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Bunch of goofy Brits who are privileged and can do this performative nonsese while actual gazans can’t and die form starvations . I hate you British scum at lefty pol much

that image goes hard

>>2691757
Sorry that British leftists haven't single handedly destroyed Israel



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YO TRICKSHOTTED YO BOYS
SQUIDGAME SOCIAL-DEMOCRACY WEALTH DISTRIBUTION OF A SELECTION OF CONTESTANTS IN CONNECTED WEALTHY FAMILIES
WASP PRIDE FIRST WORLD WIDE

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Divided into 20 teams

Hey man im hispanic and im going to whoop your ass. Had nuf of you punks.

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Mr Breast take me for your waiting challenge I can wait decades put me in a circle I will wait decades

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So this is what passes for "informed and productive discussion" now. Bizarre incoherent Timecube-eqsue rants that would have been autosaged in /siberia/ not that long ago.



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Xi ping has a phd in marxism.
What does he know that the rest of us dont?
Do you think he makes economic decisions based on things such as the rate of explotation or the falling rate of profit?
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>>2689295
me transforming into a classical economist after reading adam smith (studying is the exact same thing as believing something)

>>2692131
Yes the nepo baby leading a manufacturing and exploitative superpower with several stock exchanges is more of a communist then Mao.

>>2692261
Mao was born to a rich landlord family

Xi was born to a disgraced party official (proletarian), and sent down to the countryside as a youth

>>2692222
nice quads
also it's kinda funny because smith and marx have more in common with each other than either of them do with the contemporary neoliberal economic priesthood.

>>2692699
marx and engels cite smith as the discoverer of the source of surplus value:
<Thus even Adam Smith knew “the source of the surplus-value of the capitalist,” and furthermore also of that of the landlord. Marx acknowledged this as early as 1861
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1885-c2/ch00.htm#1885



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🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
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>>2692670
>>2692665
So what you're saying is if we destroy Israel we take out all the far-right shit at once?

Sounds good.

>>2692671
Well, most of the far-right

>>2692671
I can get behind that, double decapitation strike to take out their leadership and nuclear weapons. Bomb power plants and airdrop weapons in Gaza and the West Bank. Blockade Israel in till the Palestinians gain control and then they can decide the Israelis fate.

>>2692674
>decapitation strike
Veteran or avid gamer?

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Mr Beast must stop trying to provide water to the poor regions of Africa. The temporary relief is tantamount to revisionist reformism. It acts as a controlled pressure valve, which prevents the organic centralisation of the Sub-Saharan proletariat into recognising and acting out spontaneously the invariant programme of the historic party of the real movement.
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>>2692471
I watched it, they're going to shit in the wells and pollute them on purpose just to receive more foreign aid later

>>2692467
And?? What else are they supposed to do?

Kenya received 450000000000 Ksh (3.493.780.650,00 $ USD) from the US in 5 years, where the fuck is that money being used lmao?

>>2692467
This is like being given a free car as a gift by your parents and then when you break it being mad they wont pay for its fixing.
The entitlement of africans is amazing.

>>2692395
This anon had the best post so far. But just to be annoying and not in a way defending Mr. Beast since as this anon has pointed out he’s a poverty pimp that legitimizes the system. But wells are a productive force. If Mr. Beast had dump off like a years supply of bottle water he would be preventing devolvement. A Well is actual infrastructure that frees up labor for other task. It’s still inadequate and out of date infrastructure. What they need is roads, schools, water treatment facilities, plumping and a power plant.



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I'm barely on my phone anymore, I don't really use social media or anything, and the main thing I notice when I'm in a group is how often I sit around with nothing to do while everyone else is on their phones. Then when everyone gets off their phones there's the increasingly long awkward silences, the reticence to start or continue conversations, the unspoken social contract that talking about anything "real" like politics is exhausting, the implicit understanding that sincerity is uncouth and irony is king. I'm lucky I even have a group of IRL friends, depressing as that is to say. You could do everything right, successfully get off your phone and the internet forever, live a completely tech-free life, and the "real world" would still feel incomplete and hollow. So it isn't just the phone, not anymore–it's everything. The entire world is organized around funneling us into this machine. Why? If I were to put a term to what the phone does to a person, I'd say it's "soul-draining," and I have half a mind to call it "demonic possession" but people obviously look at you funny when you say that (even if we're all in agreement that tech billionaires are basically demons). Your soul, your consciousness, is the thing that's being silenced when you tap in to the noise; when your soul is quiet, it turns out you're more likely to accept wage slavery and authoritarianism and anti-intellectualism and bigotry and all that fun stuff. In my experience, the more I actively put down the phone and say "I'm going to simply exist in my own discomfort for a while" the easier it becomes to understand the shape of that discomfort and combat it, usually by making art. The amazing thing is that we live in an era of unprecedented access to actual, real knowledge and art from the entirety of human existence. I'm not saying there's never been a better time to be an artist or a philosopher, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a more critical or important time.

Left-Communism is when no phone

>>2691708
>talking about anything "real" like politics is exhausting, the implicit understanding that sincerity is uncouth and irony is king
sick of this as well

>>2692045
How did we arrive at this state of affairs?



 

>Nick Fuentes
Gay Mexican
>Sneako
Filipino and Haitian
>Candace Owens
Black Women
>Fresh and Fit
Sudanese and Barbadian duo
>Stonetoss
Puerto Rican
>Every greek statue profile picture cyrtpto-Nazi account on Twitter
Indian
You can debate whether or not these guys are all Nazis but they all have defended Hitler at some point and either denied, revised, or downplayed the Holocaust. And they are also all at least White-Nationalits.
I myself am a white man and also Heterosexual and Cisgender and I understand why another white man with no class consciousness would be a white supremacist BUT WHY WOULD A BLACK OR BROWN PERSON BE A WHITE SUPREMACIST?!?!?! Why are these Cucks trying to suck my dick?!?!?!
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>>2692209
There's no such thing as "actual nazis" in 2026. And antisemitism is a meaningless term.

>>2656557
correct me if I'm wrong but Mexicans are catholic right? so they probably strongly identify with the social conservatism of the American right. there again, the American right is basically classical liberal so I don't think there is as much antipathy in those circles towards ethnic minorities as we're led to believe. the stuff with ICE is just political theater, an impotent display of power by a leader who is desperate to go to war but is constrained by global market reality so has to take it out on his own subjects instead.

>>2692338
Trump and MAGA movement represents more traditional and honest conservatism. American right wing ultra liberals seem like a minority in comparison.

Leftism is white supremacist and racist. It's no surprise that oppressed POCs reject it.

>>2692328
>what are neo-Nazis
<inb4 but they weren't true national socialists because-
>nor were the NSDAP, ideological nazism is a myth
It's bullshit all the way down.



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