/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2765867
Quit seething, Rabbi

>>2765870
A proletarian will run you over in a lifted truck, Epstein

The real proletarian vehicles are engine powered hang-gliders

Israelis are building colonies in Kenya so they can practice apartheid
If their state in occupid palestine falls they'll go down ratlines to these settlements. is there no end to their colonisation?

>>2765875
>>2765875
Surely just a COHENincidende…

>>2764801
Don’t google Bunga Bunga

>>2764834
"…"

>>2761954
She was right about a lot of things but her general reactionary disdain for men convinced me that Feminism is not inherently compatible with Leftism and we need to be very careful allying with Men of Wo. Most self-identified radfems are just left-wing out of self-interest and not any kind of idealistic belief in improving the world or helping their fellow man, just themselves and their own kind. Cut a radfem and a tribalist class traitor bleeds. They're also often responsible for extremely reactionary policy under the guise of "protecting women" like banning porn or requiring age verification online or mass surveillance.

Maybe I'm just a chud though.

>>2764793
Les ritals sont en chaleur c'est scientifiquement prouvé

>>2765361
why is banning porn "extremely reactionary"?

>>2764312
because they are free minded and can't be used as a tool for le revolution

>>2764312
there's arguments that mafia would be more considered "lumpenbourgeoisie"
But the real answer is these groups don't organize because they have no real economic or political power, especially homeless beggars.

>>2764314

There is class hereirchy in the mob too though. you have the working class members earning and the rich elites on top. and marx and engels werent using dialetical materialism to criticize lumpens they were mostly just doing moral liberal panic over the "anti-social" behaviors of the lowest workers because marx was poor but still a petite bourgeois academic would be no different than some gentry marxist moving in a seattle condo then saying the way the workers behave is too crude

>>2765610
Booklet. M&E recorded several (anti-monarchist) revolutions where lumpen were bought to fight for the status quo.

>>2765348
yet*

>>2765340
What about boobs on the ground?

giga fizzle
nothing ever happens
you still have to go to work tomorrow

>>2765343
the old fat pedo turd can now sense that everyone around him is doubting or disgusted with him, so he's reducing his circle to only the most committed zionist warmongers and trump personality cultists

Capitalism is also morally and aesthetically despicable.
It is a void of being that pushes people into a combo of non-existence + negative work.
It makes me really sad.

Correct, the amoral aspect of capitalism is a correct and calud criticism of it, despite what sone dogmatic leftists believe.

>>2765315
I dont consider myself a scientist, maybe a philosopher or a mystic. I have read some things, but I prefer creating my own worldview based on what I read.
To me, capitalism is morally wrong because everything that is not morally good (like seeking the truth, listening to good music, making love in some way) is actually bad and not just "neutral".
That's where my idea of capitalism as a social and existential void comes from. It literally sucks life from good people and give it to someone who doesn't really care about nothing.
Non-beings and ugly people pretending they are, while good and exceptional stuff being always tossed away and repressed.
I have no idea where this comes from, but I think socialism is a good way of fixing it.

>>2765339
It's the human essence recognizing capitalism is flawed, in the same manner animals in zoos go crazy

Funny thing is, if you take morals out of the equation it’s still a pretty shit system.

> look at china
China operates by the “light-heavy” principle when it comes to the market. It’s not a neoliberal “free-market” and still purposely maintains SOEs which is why neoliberal capitalists in the U.S. are still pissy.

>>2764291
Find me a market economy that doesn't maintain SOEs and has no government intervention. The reason neoliberal capitalists are pissy is because they have to compete with Chinese capital, since China can pump out 100 cheap EVs for one dogshit F-150.

>>2764291
the US has just as much state aid and protection even if it doesn't have ownership
indeed, regulation and protection from failure matters far more than ownership in terms of skewing market outcomes negatively. americans should all be driving cheap chinese cars, SOE or not.

>>2764294
>Find me a market economy that doesn't maintain SOEs and has no government intervention.
Find me one where 68% of the total registered capital of all firms have at least some level of state ownership and you might have a point. https://sccei.fsi.stanford.edu/china-briefs/reassessing-role-state-ownership-chinas-economy
> The reason neoliberal capitalists are pissy is because they have to compete with Chinese capital
Those aren't mutually exclusive. If they could have implemented and maintained "shock therapy" neoliberal policies in China in the late-70s early-80s, they would likely not be having the same issues they are having today.
>>2764300
Ownership is a crucial difference because it's partially how China was able to reject neoliberal shock therapy. The market instead became a tool for development goals instead of falling into the neoliberal trap of being used by the market for the sake of building U.S. dominance. Using China as an example of neoliberal superiority is nonsense when neoliberalism would have wrecked them completely if it had its way.

>>2764353
ownership is not particularly relevant to that development model, which is why china is a mixed economy. the ownership/control distinction blurs almost to irrelevance in such a context anyway.

what you must understand is that the US state acting in market distorting ways is also bad. this is why liberalism is "good" - in almost all areas, the US following the theoretical prescriptions of liberalism leads to better outcomes. neoliberal economic theory, divorced from its flawed, human advocates, will tell you loud and clear that there should be free trade with cuba. (even if cuba doesn't reciprocate!)

or, back to the thesis of the OP: the implementers of neoliberalism let neoliberalism down. would-be neoliberal presidents continued to indulge in protectionism and obviously inefficient regulated/protected markets. in britain, half of neoliberal-hero margaret thatcher's privatizations put former state assets into "private" markets subject to less competitive pressure than the average chinese SOE. what was good in "actually existing neoliberalism" is fading, and what is bad is expanding. all i'm saying is: consider the inverse. imagine if the good were expanded, and the bad were fading, instead of writing off the whole thing and pretending that the closest thing to the kingdom of heaven on earth is the random statist tilts of the nixon administration combined with headline-programs from the dead USSR.

The primary contradiction is whether you can see why kids like the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch

>>2759242
How is class not the primary contradiction when class is tied to why these are consistent problems?

Like proles care about the environment, bourgeosis dont and destroys the planet for profit, and for decades we've been living understood of upcoming crisis of global warming, and we failed to stop it.

>>2762989
based and productive forces pilled

>>2759242
Greta has been discrediting protests and occupying the political scene since day one.
She makes an excellent controlled oppositional pawn which prevents the people from demanding what they need.

The eradication of false competition which works against the people's interests is a step in removing the establishment, even capturing and holding these government pawns hostage is more reasonable than joining them.

Only no kings protests are viable.

>>2764268
Ofc they're not, I just state that exploatition is against self and class intrest of everyone included in porn industry.

>>2764263
Go back to /pol/

>>2764263
>No one has self-intrest in normalisation of drawn pornography except for those who profit from it.
I think this is an interesting point. But why exactly would it not be in the gooner's self-interest?

>>2764362
Because he's unconscious victim of his own addiction which does cause him to involuntary be a cow for endless profit.

Those people don't only destroy their life by addiction which deepen their sexual frustrations but also some people make profit out of it.

Also they're definetly victims of porn in terms of social interactions, alot of males get addicted to porn at very young age (including drawn ones) which determinate their inability in socialising with opposite sex and even may cause rise of misoginistic behaviours which obviously isn't beneficial for them but they don't realise it until it's too late.

i notice that tumblr is covered in ads for some hardcore ai generated fetish porn now. remember a few years ago when tumblr cracked down on "adult content" by basically shadowbanning every user who posted any remotely revealing pictures of themselves? apparently it was never actually the content itself that was morally objectionable, it was the human content creators who were the real target. it's okay to have a site covered in filthy depraved sexual content for perverts to jack off to, what isn't okay is human sex workers making a living off of it and expecting to be treated like human beings. ban all the sex workers and replace them with ai and suddenly there's no ethical dilemma, you can advertise all the creepy incest ai porn you want and nobody will complain.

The working class doesn’t want independence or to rule

Cunt for trying to rehabilitate Kautskyism. Trash for that alone
Also Cockshott wiped the floor with him whenever they issued polemics towards each other

>>2763836
he won't. and if he does, he will just recreate nato. he will labelled 'anti-de-dei-zed' nato o algo.
>>2764057
what do you mean? albanesse and starmer did the same.

>>2764057
the event was closed press, the video was not meant to be released, so he was a lot more candid than usual

new thread:
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>>2763969
Trump revealed his presidential library will be in Miami. He is associated with Florida now and is the stereotypical snowbird retiree