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>US is threatening with military action inside Mexican territory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NVpQjPjpdA

>The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration alerted airlines about possible military activity and interference with the Global Navigation Satellite System when flying over Mexico, Central America, and South America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9C4y8H4PJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiu3Bn-Ayho

>Trump is demanding the Mexican government to turn in polititians involved in drug trade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HTuXzNsxlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d87QtGAExY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVp-Of1TFvo

>In recent months, Mexico has started to detain more and more criminals, recently, they have detained people wanted by the FBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiwBL5F-hcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYBB7V8jU78
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>>2703207
A morena party member told me that they almost didnt run her because they knew the army wouldnt like to have a woman as their constituional boss, and that amlo tried to make a women 4 star general but the army was like no so they made her in charge for the national gaurd and that amlo wanted the army to go to the barracks but the army refused so he gave the national gaurd to the secretary of defense and had the army back off somewhat from day to day patrolling

>>2704891
I wonder if self hosted models can do that

>>2704898
Holy cringe machismo

>>2704899
tell us the results when you try it




 

This should be the elephant in the room for a lot of people. The reason why Zionist Jews and Mormons have so much power and control over America is because America has freedom of religion. Jewish supremacy and Mormon influence in government and culture are the result of people being allowed to worship freely with zero government oversight. Same reason Evangelicals have so much power in the American South.

SOMETHING has to be done to combat these groups. We need to keep them monitored so they don’t keep political power and are drained of their enormous wealth. But we can’t do that if freedom of religion is allowed. Any socialist group in America needs to address this and call for the full-blown abolition of religious freedom. Shut down every single Zionist synagogue and Mormon and Evangelical “church.” Only allow liberation theology, anti-imperialist Islam and anti-Zionist Judaism. Keep religious places highly monitored by the proletarian state like they do in China. This is the only solution. And if you think not, come up with a better one.
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>>2706755
try it religger

>>2706175
But when he made a video criticising jews he lost his patreon and his bank account.
Curious.

>>2707228
>bank account
No. Just his Patreon.

>>2706282
>>2707432
Christian exceptionalism is a cancer on the western left.

Leftist antisemitism is fundamentally an outgrowth of Medieval Christian antisemitism, that being the idea that Jews are innately “evil” because they reject Jesus. The idea is that the Catholic Church (regardless if you believe in God or not) was supposed to unite humanity under its banner, and that by rejecting Christianity the Jews rejected universal brotherhood for tribalism (even if it was solely due to theological reasons). Leftist hatred of Jews takes the guise of Jews being immoral because they reject the teachings of Jesus, which again is a very old school form of this particular hatred.

It’s also the reason why the western left hates China, Vietnam, Laos, etc. They think the Chinese and other East Asians can never be “real” socialists because they aren’t Christian but Buddhists/Taoists/Confucians and whatnot. If India ever gets taken over by the Naxals, the western left says it will fail very shortly because Indians are Hindu. When it comes to Islam, the western left has a very shaky relationship, very far from being a “red-green alliance”. Western leftists praise Islam only on the basis that Islam resembles Christianity, as if they’re trying to force Islam into adopting a western Christian paradigm — “Islam is liberal”/“Islam is about compassion”/“Islam loves Jesus”, that kind of thing. They can never let Muslims be Muslims without injecting Christianity into their faith.

>>2707498
How many of those leftists preaching "JESUS WAS A RADICAL PALESTINIAN ANTI-COLONIAL COMMUNIST" types actually go to church? Seems like nearly everyone who says that crap is an atheist/secular.



 

Okay /leftypol.

Do you feel more bad for Socrates or for (historical) Jesus?

Bullied into suicide for not being a retard (or at least being less of a retard than everyone around him) vs tortured to death for being a slightly deluded edgelord
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>>2706061
> Secularism was practically unheard of in the ancient world
I question the historicity of Socrates as a secular figure. He seems at most a heretic.

>>2706416
>Creating a mere posibility is worthless
That's like saying we shouldn't build foundations because a foundation is not yet a house. We shouldn't plough fields because ploughed fields are not bread. Creating the possibility is not worthless when that possibility did not exist before.
>NATO is just a bunch of western democracies, athenian democracy is the prototype of that and the foundation of western civilization
It was not a prototype of anything. It was a completely different society governed by completely different social relations. It doesn't even share the same mode of production. The idea that Athens and Greek society was "the foundation of Western civilization" is a narrative conjured up during the Enlightenment. It's not actually true.
>It only matters that he opposed it and was considered enough of a problem to it that he was sentenced to death because of it
By that logic you should be buddies with skin heads who oppose liberal democracy because it isn't racist enough.

>>2706301
yeah christianity did grow out of these material conditions, but not of the poor, but of the wealthy, greek jews like paul and many others described in his epistles, this religion gained strength because of that, and your example of nat turner and robert e. lee only really makes sense if you forget that this wasn't the prime motivator for lee, and in nat turner's case he could only speak through christianity, in there there may very well be something you could turn into an emancipatory ideology, yet such a doctrine hardly caught on, since liberalism not long after changed the words of these men, frederick douglass for example was a christian himself, but he did not speak through the words of christianity to justify that slavery was unacceptable, he spoke through the liberal lens, as he had managed to be educated in ideas other than it

>>2706533
>your example of nat turner and robert e. lee only really makes sense if you forget that this wasn't the prime motivator for lee, and in nat turner's case he could only speak through christianity
That's my point though. I don't think it was the prime motivator of either of them, and it was simultaneously the language through which virtually all politics was conducted at the time.

>>2706539
in the US? yeah sure, but an enslaved man may speak in christianity because his slavemasters do, a slavemaster speaks of it because it represents power, i get that this is what you're saying but the religion itself has grown 9/10 to support the worst oppressive structures, and in the rare case it doesn't (like with john brown or whichever instance you can conjure up), it is crushed by those that do



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• Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/

• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/liveblog/ (trigger warning)
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>>2687735
Just to double check went to the location of Sydney town hall on google maps, they were facing north

>>2687739
is that a sin in islam

>>2687710
Tribalism has been a disaster for humanity. Sadly only bad news on the palestinian front. I just stopped paying attention since I can't help them and I can't afford living my whole life pissed off.

Israel’s prison authorities have begun preparations for executing Palestinians under a proposed law condemned by Amnesty International and UN experts.

The preparations include the construction of a “green mile” facility to carry out the hangings, with groups of three volunteer executioners simultaneously pressing a trigger, Israel’s Channel 13 reported.

Two prison rights groups described the death penalty bill as an “unprecedented act of savagery”.

Meanwhile, eight UN experts last week called on Israel to withdraw the bill, which mandates executions within 90 days of a guilty verdict.

The bill, which must pass two more readings in the Israeli Knesset to become law, introduces two tracks for the death penalty.

In the illegally occupied West Bank, Israeli military courts would impose the death penalty for “terrorist” acts that cause someone’s death, even if it was unintentional; while in Israel and occupied East Jerusalem, the death penalty would apply under Israeli criminal law, and only for the “intentional killing of Israeli citizens or residents”.

Only Palestinians will be executed, while Israelis convicted of similar offences will face prison sentences.

If passed, the Israeli government intends first to target the law at the elite Hamas military unit that conducted the 7 October 2023 attacks.
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A thread to share of what you think are your controversial opinons and takes, here mine:

- mass immigration is bad overall (I'm not against immigration per se, more like unfiltered immigration is quiet bad in my opinion)

-religion in general are bad, reactionary and backwater, and trying to "fuse" religion and left leaning politics are bound to fail because both doesn't mix well

-"liberal" eugenics is mostly right and should be mass adopted

-China is actually a trying a form of modernize socialism with end goal of becoming a full fledged socialist nation when they exhaust the market-capitalism form of relation in the country

-North Korea is a abomination of socialism

-Supporting Russia is stupid because Putin is nowhere near close to be a support of socialism and progressive politics and is just a form of support imperialist politics by because isn't western somehow is good, it's like supporting japanese imperialism back in the WW 2 era isn't western
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>>2706191

There's also the fact that more Americans have lived in cuba even during the blockade. It's culturally more interlinked with the US and the Americas.

>>2704209
We will know when it's ready

>>2704294
It would've been better if they kept the battle mechanics.

>>2703978
I dislike Marxists which go after businesses which produce a valuable product.
I dislike capitalists which go after government because government.

Controversial but fair and true, the above opinion always gets me into people's bad books.

>>2704033
The only counterpoint to the death penalty that I've heard of and respect is that courts aren't trustworthy enough to ensure innocent people aren't convicted. Many many news stories of innocent people appealing and overturning life sentences.

For any extreme antisocial action where responsibility is established with certainty, execute them efficiently. No point wasting more resources. I don't care if you want prolonged 'justice' (torture) against someone who hurt you.



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>Free healthcare is socialism, you need to be placed in hospital debt for the rest of your life
>but US taxdollars should fund free healthcare for Israel
What did JD Vance mean by this? Anybody?
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he didn't say that

>>2706059
No healthcare for anybody. There, problem solved!

>>2706131
If that applies to Americans only I would support jt

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did you just question why american tax dollars fund palestinian genocide and israeli healthcare even while burgers watch all their social services get privatized? that's treatlerism!



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Baudrillard was a crypto-heidegerrian, symbols ARE real, read engels and matetialism vs empirocriticism

I will not elaborate further
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>>2705515
in my country the general masses are fascist and prime misogynist. way to go cunt.

>>2705554
Yeah, but the mistake is thinking that compatibility is predicated on the compatibility of ideas, rather than the compatibility of material interests.
All standpoint epistemologists are in unison when they cry "Listen to [nationality] gusano voices!"

>>2705558
Yeah, nietzsche would have hated nazism, but precisely because it was too democratic. In that, the category of "race" or "nationality" includes the slave rabble, and not just masters.
Ironically though, modern neoliberalism is closer to nietzsche's vision.
https://redsails.org/kriegsideologie/
https://redsails.org/nietzsche-the-chinese-workers-friend/
https://redsails.org/really-existing-fascism/
These articles discuss the topic in some detail.

>>2705623
Seek the rational in the real. You're not a blanquist, are you?

Actually, Zionism is a great example of this perfect blending of race essentialism and idpol.

>>2704244
>It is a matter of public record, however, that Foucault signed a petition to the Assemblée Nationale in 1977 calling for the decriminalisation of all “consensual” sexual relations between adults and children.
https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/april-2021/michel-foucault-the-prophet-of-pederasty/
>>2703942
Reigns supreme
>>2705631
Blanquism (as individual ethos) is perfectly compatible with dialectical materialism.

Unironically though the Mirror of Production doesn't discredit Marxism necessarily. I'd even say it can be interpreted as a defense of Marxism within its sphere, and explains the rise of (neo)China. Marxism is capital's alibi, sure, but some alibis are better than others.

For Black History Month I am assigning you to read Baudrillard's Fatal Strategies alongside Sprigle's In the Land of Jim Crow, Griffin's Black Like Me, and Ice Cube's TV Show Black.White. Extra credit for watching Boy Meets World's Chick Like Me.



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Well my country is fucking me over. Trump and his administration seem to be on a mission to genocide neets. So there's that..Very easy to attack neets and their gibs to give sad pleasures to wagecucks. Anyone else living such a situation? Feels like the world is more and more pressuring you to rope yourself… oh well…
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>>2694656
>I actually learned brazilian portuguese
how? tips?

>>2693328
>>2693825
>>2694264
>If you have enough money to live in relative comfort
That’s kind of the crux behind the free greentext part. If you can be elitist about being a cultured NEET and believe the only thing to gain from work is sex, it’s probably because you’re already from a privileged position in society.

>>2648855
You gotta fight
for your right
to NEET

>>2651525
>have a job
>have your own place
>no social life because you are too tired from job and chores
>eat like shit and no exercise

vs

>neet

>eat clean exercise
>get pussy sometimes due to not being soulcrushed by job so women actually find you enjoyable to be around

>I DONT WANT TO WOOOORK!! WAAHHH
skill issue

U cant be a Communist without working. That isn ot a "theory" or "moralism". This is not about "being proletariat". iT's about mindset. Communism needs to be built somehow, it wont happen on its own.
Embrace labor
Embrace work
Find "joy through work". When you do this, you will activate new "mindset" in ur brains that causes full proletarian motion. 9 hours work, 9 hours communism, 6 hours sleep. EVERY SINGLE DAY
COMMUNISM IS THE HUSTLE

Would you volunteet to work at a gulag? If yes, congrats youre a SOVIET. If no, then you must be deported to gulag to learn good work ethic.
Thankfully capitalism has invented a gulag named "the labor market". Work it, gig it, hustle. The "labour mentality" cannot be learned, it must be experienced and embedded into your soul. People in 1880 who worked 60 hours a week could organize like crazy but you cannot though u have 24/7 time? Literally skill issue. Do work, get swole.

50 planks for Lenin, 50 squats for Marx, 50 pushups for Stalin



 

Is the idea of eugenics in essence a bad idea? Like, does the idea of wanting to make people more healthy and brighter a bad idea per se? Is eugenic always bad and problematic, or they still space for to be useful for society? What's your thoughts on it?
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Women are natures eugencisists

>>2704883
>eugenics has and always will be executed in the worst matter possible by the worst people possible.
Well, hard eugenics has only been executed in capitalist/fascist countries

>>2704065
>Is the idea of eugenics in essence a bad idea?
Depends. Forcibly sterilizing people is questionable. Promoting healthy sperm/egg donors is a good alternative.

>2060
>genetic modification is mandatory
>capitalist state (now owned by shareholder majority) kills all pregnant women who dont go to the GMH center
>the CIA backdoors inject stupid genes in the gene changing machines
>billions of americans develop black skin, even when their parents are both white
>billions of americans have been enstupified and become too stupid to understand communism
>society is permanently segregated into Alpha (white devil) and Gamma (negro slave) classes
eugenics obviously leads to Brave New World

Yup, just another normal and well-adjusted day on leftypol dot org.



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🧣 Discuss Politics related to the mighty occupied nation of of Appalachia ⛏️
It’s time Leftypol pays more attention to the beautiful land of Appalachia. As an upper Appalachian myself o can say that this is Easily one of the most historically proletarian places in America because the coal miner’s union back in the day bravery fought cops and the national guard, however unfortunately post-red-scare the Appalachian people became surf-brained and got into an Abusive relationship with the Republican Party and conservatism in general. Appalachia has been victim to unequal exchange in what is supposed to be it’s own country, they shut down our steel mills and do nothing but mine our mountains and frack our fields and it doesn’t go to funding our schools, hospitals, or infrastructure, of course this is the case in all of America but especially in Appalachia, it’s basically a neo-colony in its own country. We must help re-radicalize the Appalachian people! Rednecks of the world Unite!
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>>2699322
It stands for two things, hating black people, and drunk driving

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My home city of Pittsburgh is the largest city in Appalachia and is easily one of the most proletarian cities in the United States by because it’s Appalachian and in the rust belt, unfortunately though it no longer has any industry and our bridges are collapsing into our polluted water. In the 80s they started to shut down our steel mills and outsource that shit to China, I mean good for China I guess but I wish that we had industry to replace it because our main source of income now is healthcare and the largest tower in the city has the name of an insurance company on it. And the great great grandkids of steelworkers who fought the Pinkerton’s are now all wagies

Fucking yanks

>>2705564
>largest industry is healthcare
The Pitt is a documentary, bleak

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>>2705573
>The Pitt is a documentary, bleak
The name of the insurance company that practically owns the city is drilled into the tallest tower, and libs have the audacity to say that Mao’s portrait in the forbidden city is an expression of a personality cult.



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