/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2755286
well, here's what i think from reading around 12 pages
i find it pretty interesting, especially when it comes to childhood and adulthood development and with frameworks
so far it seems very focused on one particular style/place/state of people but i haven't read the rest of it(i have it bookmarked to read for later)
the theory put forward intrigues me but the classification into a few separate domains like social, law, and finance seems a bit too narrow, there could be a lot more
the writing could see some improvement because some of it feels llm-generated (eg: this is not because x. it is because y) so it ruins the immersion sometimes

>>2755299
>seems very focused on one particular style/place/state of people
You'll have to expand on what you mean by this.

>the classification into a few separate domains like social, law, and finance seems a bit too narrow
Yes, I should include a derivation of these categories. They might be the most popular ones, but they seem arbitrary without a grounding.

>the writing could see some improvement because some of it feels llm-generated
It is, but let me explain how. I wrote the axioms, and I wrote the concepts. I then used an LLM to decompose, reorganize, and recompose. I do that as part of my process, which means the LLM is going to touch a lot of the file eventually and fuck up some of the verbiage.

I'm working on it like a codebase. The design, the section architecture, the model is mine. The details and the connections are created.

Also, I've made some updates to the paper, and will continue to do so.

Here's the latest draft: https://files.catbox.moe/u025jw.pdf

another ai slop thread

>>2758579
>The details and the connections are created.
Actually, this was wrong. Most of the details are main. Vague references to popular ideas (less controversial, less original assertions) may not be mine but take a far less important position in the paper.

>>2758593
>main
*mine
ugh

is inflation that much of a problem? Oh well, get fucked

holy fizzle

>>2756111
Also a dirty bomb that could kill that many 1000s of people would lethally irradiate the wearing before he could get to the target

whats going on here

>>2756111
> all concluded that you'd need around 300 to 400 kilos to make the smallest nuclear bomb.
where was this

The near future, yeah, maybe. But the near future is irrelevant. What's relevant is how convinced you are in socialism's inevitability. Leftists who only fight for socialism provided that they get to see it in their lifetimes are barely better than social democrats.

>>2756885
>girldads aren't men
clever ragebait

>>2756689
>pic
can i get the text without the image. it's good text

>>2758054

Used an text extractor, didnt double check all.

>You are being systematically robbed of the same opportunities which previous generations were entitled to by simple virtue of having been born in eras with lower global population.
>Proponents of malthusian-inspired deregulation propaganda aren't really worried about the Earth, knowing full well that it could easily support a much higher number of humans if political corruption, systemic inequality, and purposeful waste of resources were brought to heel.
>A meaningful career, life partner, family, house, car, and possibly even food & water can be dangled just beyond your grasp by strategic maneuvering of forces and organizations which you'll never see, and of whom you've likely never even heard. They consider you to be a kind of living, animate refuse, whose only use is the production of capital and the taxable income which follows.
>Your elected leaders are almost all fully aware of the scale of the upcoming social upheavals that this will cause, when enough of you realize that your impotent groaning and whing in public forums won't save you from your fate - one worse than that of a medieval peon who at least had the courage to rise up and murder their oppressors under desperate circumstances. Instead you'll permit them to withdraw even dignified modes of living, contrive diversionary scandal after scandal as though they were pre-prepared and drawn from a ready supply, turn you against your brothers and sisters, and consume farmed insect protein because you believe that it will halt the already irreversible climate change devastation caused by unchecked industry and suppression of clean energy tecchnology. Even worse, the half of you would rather suicide than fight to keep what's already been earned by your predecessors. If your ancestors could see you now, they'd spit in your worthless face.


makes a good copy pasta for sure

>>2758149
>>2756689
the view of the past presented here is rose tinted nonsense. most people didn't have a meaningful career, they just had no choice but to look for meaning in being the guy who moves boxes from line A to line B in the box factory. as for a family, the primary reason that is more difficult is because we've successfully won much of the war on boredom and on dire poverty. you are no longer compelled to find a partner as a means of not starving to death, and you are no longer compelled to find a partner as a means of fucking the boredom away. net result? - revealed preference, as economists call it? - people argue on 4chan dot org or twitter dot com instead of going out and finding someone. (indeed: how could overpopulation possibly explain a lack of partners? by definition there are more potential partners than ever!)
housing, granted, is an issue but the problem is not overall population but population distribution (and construction, but everyone knows about construction).
everyone wants to live in LA because it's cool and nobody wants to live in ohio because it's lame. (and so far as people have to live in ohio, they want to live in Columbus, not Rendville) net result: a bunch of wasted houses in podunk shitholes with no jobs, and a big deficit in coolsville USA.
car? not only do most have one, but they need one, which is itself the problem - the manipulation of unseen forces trying to screw over the reader - in any civilized country "you won't be able to own a car" would be no more inconvenient than "you won't be able to own a 2-in-1 VHS/TV combo unit"

>>2742033
To give a serious rebuttal: there's always a moment within reformist movements where the bourgeoisie stops cooperating and starts playing hardball. In those moments, reformists have always knuckled under and either lost power, or in the worst case implemented austerity themselves, betraying their own working-class base. Or they were killed like Allende in Chile, who allowed workers to be disarmed and refused to mobilize the proletariat for revolution until it was too late.

>>2758297
If we're talking a capitalist dictatorship anyway democracy is better than authoritarianism because workers can at least publicly organize and get concessions instead of leaving all the cards to the ruling class and being forced underground. There's a reason for operation condor and so on

Through Landsbergian hermeunitcs and the inversed sociological topology of the late Precariat, time.

>>2758303
>If we're talking a capitalist dictatorship anyway democracy is better than authoritarianism
Current day liberal "democracies" aren't democracy. Read Aristotle.

>>2742033
But there's lots of small, potentially tractable problems with that idea. What if you lose an election? haven't you considered that all political reforms create winners and losers, and the losers will fight against your changes?

It's much better if we follow my idea:
first, we non-specifically "Organize" - maybe we start a party (I'll be in charge, naturally) and then the party will "organize" by recruiting people. Then, well, ???, then a revolution will happen and we'll be the driving force in that revolution, winning it by ??? (universal acclaim of the proletariat, maybe), then we'll implement certain organizational structures and policies like ??? (idk the ussr did something), which will immanentize the eschaton, maybe give-or-take a showdown against the world superpowers depending on how i'm feeling that day.

>>2742120
This is a good thing and reflective of historical progress. Martial wank belongs with goat sacrifice on the dustbin of stupid things we did under worse material conditions. There is not one single dispute in the world that would be better solved by combat than by market competition, and market competition is itself so brutal that socialists and social democrats try to look past it.

>>2742141
I am coming to believe that the most practical reformist attitude is as follows: high-welfare libertarianism.
Most regulations are unnecessary, either entirely so or an attempt to solve by regulation what should really be resolved by tax and spending. The handful of regulations that are necessary can be retained easily.
Foreign policy should consist almost entirely of securing trade and bilateral immigration/visa agreements. The military should be cut to the bone, perhaps abolished depending on the country.
State owned enterprises can in many cases be privatized. The darkest secret of social democracy is that there is in-fact no reason to presuppose that an SOE has the public interest at heart more than any private company.

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>>2758053
again its very strange to me that you maintain this position when the main tenets of mendels theory have been proven outright incorrect and his main contributions are an exception to what is now the rule.

you just implicitly accept that "genetics" as a field has a throughline with minor imperfections and course corrections to arrive at the current model, when in reality its essentially been essentially completely overturned and whats left is deeply intertwined with proposals that are closer to what lysenko thought.

and youre using "mendelian" as shorthand for something it doesnt represent and didnt claim, giving him credit for something he had nothing to do with and made no contribution to. while also using "lysenko policy" or "lysenkoism" as a distinct school of thought, when that is anti-communist propaganda. "lysenkoism" is an scare word against totally normal soviet biology and not the policy of of an individual person.

>>2758098
> "lysenkoism" is an scare word
ok so we should just have soviet biology threads instead of "let's debate lysenkoism" threads

>>2758099
sounds great

>>2758098
>and youre using "mendelian" as shorthand for something it doesnt represent and didnt claim, giving him credit for something he had nothing to do with and made no contribution to.

what? lets look at the charles example

"Mendel's investigations were well known to me before the year 1903 and all my work since then has been conducted in the light of his valued conclusions"
-charles

In the dr charles example he straight out admits that he used mendal's investigations and conclusions. His wheat expirements was also created shortly after he went to International Conference on Plant Breeding and Hybridization, where he learned mendels ideas and works.

"The remarkable work of Mendel has thrown a new light on the whole subject of plant breeding… we are now able to conduct our experiments with a degree of precision and a certainty of results that were previously impossible."
summary of the 1902 international conference proceedings (newman an argonimist who worked with charles)

Mendal ideas and works contributed heavily to dr charles wheat crop. Which later turned canada into a breadbasket.

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>>2758099
He personally named himself a Michurinist after the famous Russian biologist he drew many of his ideas from.

>>2757289
leave a poo in his locker

>american

anyway, actually tell us what conversations you've had instead of being a dumb leftcom

>>2757429
I am not american you stupid fucking obsessed retard

sorry OP, this is a geopolitics and ISG board. nobody actually talks about class struggle. we have >>>/labor/ but it's less active than >>>/dead/ and >>>/edu/

Workers' strike at one of the largest US meatpacking plants will continue
Thousands of striking workers at one of the nation's largest meatpacking plants will extend their walkout to a third week as they push for higher wages and better health care. Industry experts said it’s too early to know if the strike that began March 16 at the Swift Beef Co. plant in Greeley, Colorado, will impact beef prices for shoppers.
https://abcnews.com/Business/wireStory/workers-strike-largest-us-meatpacking-plants-continue-3rd-131475996

‘Shameful’: Trump Threatens to Redirect Student Loan Borrowers to Most Expensive Repayment Plans
Anonymous officials told The Post that those who do not switch plans within three months of receiving the email will automatically be re-enrolled in the Standard Plan. Unlike SAVE, which is income-based, the Standard plan has borrowers pay a fixed rate over 10 years.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/student-loan-forgiveness-redirect

Plot to firebomb Palestinian activist’s home disrupted by NYPD undercover operation, authorities say
An official who was briefed on the investigation said Heifler, 26, identified as a member of the JDL 613 Brotherhood, a New Jersey-based group founded in 2024 that describes its membership as “Jewish warriors” fighting back against rising antisemitism.
https://apnews.com/article/fbi-nypd-nerdeen-kiswani-e8fa38819b4f65f830b26b640d44cd72

Vance takes aim at Minnesota in first federal anti-fraud task force hearing
Joining the task force was Colin McDonald, a top aide to the Justice Department's second in command. He was recently confirmed as the assistant attorney general overseeing the new division at the department focused on prosecuting fraud. The Justice Department has long prosecuted fraud nationally through its Criminal Division, but the Trump administration says the new division is needed to crack down on rampant fraud.
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assembly.org.ua : The war has entered its fifth year. On the intensification of street guerrilla in Ukraine
For nearly 1,500 days and nights, the shadow of death has swirled over our Slobozhanshchina, and the sickle of warfare has reaped the harvest of life. Despite the predictions of the front's collapse last year—some with fear, others with hope that everyone would finally be able to leave—it still stands near Volchansk, Chasov Yar, Pokrovsk (Krasnoarmeysk), and Gulyaipole. The deadline for a hypothetical agreement has been pushed back again to late spring. No threats of sanctions against the Kiev authorities from the Trump’s fascist administration, which proudly admits to raping children if it was "a very good deal that will help them become great." The UN is also in no hurry to install a temporary administration under its auspices in Ukraine, modeled on East Timor. The drowning one's salvation remains his own doing. Broad resistance to drafting in Ukraine we recently compared to the resistance to ICE in previous article "From Minneapolis to Ukraine, only street countering can stop the state-run hunt for people". The problem is that, as in the United States, it is not strong enough to change the overall situation. After the complete devastation of our revolutionary field by Stalinism, the tradition of mass street movements disappeared in Ukraine, except in support of some right-wing politicians: 1991, 2004, 2014… Rebuilding it from scratch takes a lot of time and has been underway for two years now, since the law tightening mobilization was adopted on April 11, 2024. However, since late 2025, we see a new trend: people against the war are moving from self-defense to counter-strike. Almost every day there are news reports of armed attacks against police or enlistment groups, mostly in rear regions like Odessa or West Ukraine. This is no longer like today's United States, but rather like during the Vietnam War!
https://libcom.org/article/war-has-entered-its-fifth-year-intensification-street-guerrilla-ukraine

The Kathy Hochul Donors in the Jeffrey Epstein Files
For nearly a year, New York Governor Kathy Hochul has been calling on the Donald Trump administration to release the Jeffrey Epstein files. Well, they’ve been released —Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2756912
>Again, it's easy to point at algerians and vietnamese for forming alliances with their national bourgeoisie. Way easier than pointing to the french workers who gleefuly joined the ranks to subjugate them with the promise of a plot of land, or the ones that stayed at home and chose to do nothing while the empire was at weakest (post WWII destruction, stretched thin trying to maintain it's colonies.)

This is not about blame. The text explicitly acknowledges the fact that there are many real reasons as to why nationalist movements garner support. There's no doubt that the Vietnamese and Algerians had been impoverished and brutally oppressed by France and later the United States. Workers following a nationalist movement may at times even benefit (though the benefits from nationalist politics which had existed right after WW2 are today marginal or non-existent) from chasing out an occupying power. The point of the text is that the national project will subsume and destroy the socialist project if the socialist movement is willing to subordinate itself to a nation, because the nation-state is an inherently capitalist form of organization. This is confirmed by the history of socialist movements that were either killed or repressed by nationalist and religious forces which were previously allied with them during struggles for independence. (Indonesia, Iran, Poland, Iraq, Egypt, etc.)

This is true of places in which socialism "won" as well, like China or Vietnam. A worker in China and a worker in Czechia lives within the same set of social relations, regardless of however radically their constitutions differ on the subject of communism.

>>2757194

>This is not about blame.

You can see people in this very thread, as well as other leftcom texts, doing just that. They disregard the historical and material context in which these decisions were made, which incidently implies that the groups who made them did so because they are dumb and follow a dumb ideology. A very idealistic way of seeing the matter, if you will.

>The point of the text is that the national project will subsume and destroy the socialist project if the socialist movement is willing to subordinate itself to a nation

Again, this is dictated by the correlation of forces at the time. In China, the Kuomitang lost because the communist movement showed itself to be the more competent at disputing the masses and waging war. But if they had not declared a truce, they'd both be erradicated under japanese occupation.

Not every movement will know how to navigate that balance properly, and as a result they will be coopted or destroyed, as they were in the exemples that you cited.

>This is true of places in which socialism "won" as well, like China or Vietnam

The decaying of socialist construction is another matter, although related. Maoism develops a remedy to that in the form of Cultural Revolution, although admittedly we need further proof of concept of this.

>>2756620
>the burden of revolutionary defeatism is on the metropolitan workers,
You are a fucking retard, you have no idea what revolutionary defeatism means

>>2757293

I accept your concession

>>2757423
Well the vast, extreme majority of the population was against the continued colonization of algeria since like, I dunno… the 1800's, that didn't stop any french government from doing it that long (is that really surprising?)
Or is the idea that since they still had soldiers, it wasn't real revolutionary defeatism?
Considering Algerians troops were never going to enter the mainland to defeat the republic anyway, there never would've been an opportunity to "transform defeat in the war into a civil war" as Lenin said

St. Paul: Emperor of Rome, building of road between Tyre and Sinai.

Edward Ashbury O'Neal: Cavalry support, and light horsemen of medic; American Civil War, Union.

Reynard Heydrich: British spy, German trench lines, Great War; rape by French soldiers, for being disloyal to German Kaiser under Weimar.

Timothy O'Neil Jr.: Vietnam War veteran, prevention of INTERPOL replacing American police officers; service in Massachusetts State Police, as interceptor driver.

David Michael Charlebois: CIA HUMINT, clandestine operative on contract operator per famous political families and households of Foundation logic; "X-Files".