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Why isn't China funneling money to combat anti-communist propaganda in the west? Or anti-chinese propaganda? Or anything like that? All they do is whine about the confucious institute but its clearly not doing jackshit since sinophobia and anti-communism continue to be rampant. Where are the think tanks? Why aren't they financing channels to screw over the algorhytmn? Why? If they're doing something or anything at all its not enough. Anywhere east of Russia is generally an anti-communist shithole that holds no respect for China and millions of citizens brainwashed into pro-American slopaganda about how China's "stealing technology from the US", "China is totalitarian surveillence undemocratic state when west is freedumz n freeze peach", "Russia aggressor 2022 Putin dictator" "Hummus antisemitism". Why is China letting this retardation continue? Its only fueling the retardation war machine and conditioning the retarded to die for retardation. Why come China is just letting anti-chinese and anti-communist propaganda flood the internet? China is literally winning on all grounds except propaganda, why hasn't it solidified its global importance by financing anti-western sentinment? Why do we have to be forced to listen and see all this retarded bullshit and argue with it to no avail when China has the power to finance cointel to win the information war?
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>>2563436
Mutual aid with Nazis will only end with a bigger mess than you started off with

>>2564094
>>2563434
Can you finally accept that its your neighbors and friends that are voting for the Nazis instead of some shadowy foreign cabal that brainwashed your poor fellow Germans to be Nazis (again).

>>2588033
Both are true

>>2563322
>I know it must be hard for a lot of you people to understand, but China is more concerned about its own national interests to be sovereign
The the same future that all sovereign nations face will come to China. Too bad.




 

if you are truly a communist you believe in one world goverment and have no shame in saying so, nations are fake, race is fake, culture evolves and the next step of evolution is consolidation of all goverments and peoples.

if you feel like the mixing of all cultures is wrong those are reactionary feelings that you need to examine and deal with, the same for any belief in 'sovereignty'. also, squids are cool as fuck.
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>>2587725
>MLoids will unironically promote the UN as actually existing socialism and then be confused why you threw a brick at their face

>>2587975
>maybe there are some "real" nations, russia and china feel real
Damn what a coincidence!

>>2587938
Very interesting, I also think that the rejection of existence of races is too much.

>>2588088
>>2588093
we need to be more like saudi arabia

>>2588093
holy shit some people really love to completely invent a position nobody expressed to attack it.
they're called dishonest retards



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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Dersh in the Fuhrerbunker Edition


Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich: Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid. 🏈 💵
Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™ 🌭 🍔

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>800+ POSTS

I've read bits and pieces about the NYC DSA being firmly in the grasp of the DSA right, here's to hoping that some people up there manage to either dislodge the right or create enough momentum outside of it to keep the city officials in line

>>2549889
When are we going to send the Indians to reeducation camps to make them abandon their reactionary faith? Just like what China is doing to the Islamic Uygurs?

>>2550541
We leave the berets for 2 people: sliwa and tom morrelo. If everyone wore berets, they wouldn't have the same aura

>>2550536
This whole Felix apologism is so retarded because anyone who does it completely ignores his absolute batshit takes detached from reality like "kill every burger" and shit



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Probably my most "Idpol" opinion is that on some subconscious level, people pay more attention to what’s happening in Palestine partly because Palestinians are perceived as more Caucasian or white-adjacent compared with the victims of crises in places like Sudan, Myanmar, or Somalia. Again I don’t think most people make this distinction intentionally or out of active racism, it’s just a bias that many groups, including white people and Arabs across the political spectrum, end up participating in without realizing it.
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>>2586744
Heh, Auschwitz was inter-imperialist war

>>2588034
Yeah as in Nazis, Soviets and Westoids decided to collectively genocide proles

>>2582459
Western governments are directly involved in the Sudanese genocide too sooooo

>>2582471
I mean supporting imperialist mass slaughters of the proletariat is 1000% a leftist position, just not a communist one

Most of this board are basically homicidal socdems with too much autisms to fit in around other socdems

>>2588034
What else would you call a global conflict between two imperialist camps that ended with the victory of capitalism?



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I think that he's the most advanced Marxist theorist since Lenin and a successor to Marx and Lenin

Gramsci > Stalin

>>2587426

That is not a high bar

He promotes class collaboration

I like the leftists who don't get imprisoned 🐺

>muh gramsci
>muh hegemonay



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>Europoor

It's becoming increasingly clear that the majority of proles in Europe and North America are being brainwashed by their phones into believing immigration is the biggest issue in their countries. I have largely ignored this issue, as I don't really think it matters but then, last night, there was a lumpen riot in Dublin against an IPAS centre in which a foreign national who had been denied asylum and was told to "self-deport" had apparantly raped a 10 year old girl who was under state care. I usually don't believe a lot of the lies told about "migrants" online but this case makes me feel particularly uncomfortable.

It was a clear failure from the neoliberal Irish government and it's institutions that allowed something like this to happen. Why wasn't this man deported immediately after being denied asylum? Too expensive, apparently. Why was this man allowed to be in a situation where he could sexually abuse a child? Why is this man in my country in the first place? Ofc, the Free State institutions are keeping silent on it, pissing off people even more.

So, how do leftists feel about immigration and the current asylum process? Obviously, I understand this wouldn't be an issue if western corps weren't raping the third world but I also think there is a discussion to be had. Are open borders in the current world really working? Would they work post-capitalism? How do you feel about immigration, positively or negatively?
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There's a certain irony involving some of the people here that support reactionary immigrants being allowed into the west getting upset when reactionary /pol/tards are allowed to migrate to leftpol and start posting here

>>2587879
how about we shove it up your ass?

>>2587911
open ur own anal borders

>>2587879
>There's a certain irony involving some of the people here that support reactionary immigrants being allowed into the west
I too love saying things that were never said in the thread. When anons say those who don't like migrants want to kill every single migrant in existence? Absurd. When people say they are against bourgeoisie collaboration and are not for either side of the issue? Well, truly these people just want reactionary migrants, there's no other reason.

Fuck off lol.

>>2587879
Trvthnvke
Just as the middle class liberals love immigrants until they see a Mexican in their suburb, so too does the leftypoloid until he sees a polchud post on his website

We need solidarity with the polchuds, no more NOMWSs (not on my website)
Leftypol has a stagnant ppd (posts per day) if it wasn’t for our beloved pol migrants we’d be in a ppd decline, we should have threads advertising us on /pol/ 24/7 so our pps can rise



 

>burgerland
>bourgeoisville located outside of a major city
>cant fucking breathe, feeling like i'm about to pass out
>call ambulance
>takes at least 6 minutes to arrive
>arrive at hospital
>put in wheelchair and taken to waiting area
>there's a fucking line
>wait 20 minutes
>get triaged, EKG, wait another 10 minutes
>get a room, blood drawn, wait some more
>see the doctor for like 5 minutes, describe symptoms
>at least an hour later get breathing drug
>get discharged shortly after, can breathe a bit better but still feel like shit and nothing shows up on the bare minimum tests they do
>"how are you getting home?"
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>>2586509
Circumcision is something that should be tossed away and forgotten forever. Unless it's actually medically needed which doesn't seem to be the case most of the time.

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>>2586512
You can thank John Kellogg for the popularity of Circumcision in the USA. he thought it along with eating Corn Flakes would stop people from Masturbating.

>>2586520
It wasn't just him. Every money grubbing doctor wanting extra cash pushes it while religiously motivated Judeo-Christians actively try to promote it around the world. All of them work together with Muslims to push heavily flawed studies "proving" it reduces disease and actively stop legislation against it by crying about religious discrimination.

All Abrahamics have to go. Only then will this problem stop.

>>2586572
>It wasn't just him. Every money grubbing doctor wanting extra cash pushes it while religiously motivated Judeo-Christians actively try to promote it around the world.

Yeah but John Kellogg was the most influence in making it popular in the USA in the 19th and 20th centuries. And from there it spread.

>>2582046
>nurses are even worse somehow
TikTok is doing a trend of "fascist men become cops, fascist women become nurses"

>>2583329
>muh i'd die if i don't have my drug
methadone treatment is realistic praxis for mature adults, not infantile meme moralism from manchildren
<In America's twenty-five-year war against drugs, only one national policy achieved some success. That was the Nixon Administration's program for treating heroin addicts, which was dismantled by the Reagan Administration. In "The Fix: Solving the Nation's Drug Problem" Michael Massing (1992 MacArthur fellow) exposes the political and ideological narrow-mindedness that have made national drug policy a failure, and demonstrates convincingly why we should reinstate the policy that worked.
<Massing shows that drug treatment works by describing the success that street workers have had in reaching out to addicts in Spanish Harlem and placing them in the few treatment programs now available. Further evidence that treatment can reduce the demand for drugs comes from the Nixon years.
<Confronted with a raging heroin epidemic in the early 1970s, President Nixon responded by allocating hundreds of millions of dollars to set up a nationwide network of methadone clinics and other drug-treatment facilities. The program was a striking success, and, if revived today, it could go a long way toward reducing the rate of drug-related crime in the United States.
a fascist updated their RSS feed today and learned the truth about neoliberal austerity scold drug policy. Did you?
https://rocinante.podbean.com/e/episode-38-the-fix-nixon-was-right/



 

🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

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>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


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>>2587100
>He approved of that translation alongside the actual word because he knew it would function as an easy filter between communists who were actually interested in the real movement as it operates in the real world and the liberal proto-fascists who wanted capitalism destroyed outright
Really where did he say this? Or is this a conspiracy that you concocted in your mind? My theory is that he just thought it sufficed as a translation
>Had he not done so there is a real chance that the First Internationale would have been completely taken over by Baukuninites, stifling the real movement in its cradle and we would never have the USSR
Oh I see you're just shitposting, alright nice bait anon

>>2587107
Bourgeois chauvinist delusion. This is not a serious conversation.

>>2586935
>I know therefore everyone knows therefore shut up
you know. not everyone necessarily

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>>2586554
no offense but the essence of your comment is reformism



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>>2586403
Materialist explanation? How does india benefit?

>>2586472
Unemployed people bad. That was easy.

>>2585992
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Sum1 bake nu bread

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What are the implications of research regularly showing that right-wingers are generally
a) less educated
b) disinclined to reading
c) low in traits like agreeableness and openness
d) lower in cultural capital and status. (though harder to show in a neat chart, it links to b. most readers will know what i mean if i just say they're uncool.)

and the frankly obvious-and-growing divide of political behavior by intelligence throughout the west, with better educated people voting for left/liberal parties and less educated people voting for nationalists and reactionaries.
in this sense, and only this sense, are the right correct to identify the left with liberals. both leftists and liberals are generally educated, enjoy reading, and high agreeableness/openness, the opposite of rightists.

what are the implications as relate to the idea that right-wing fake news and rage-bait are demand lead, with low-openness, low-agreeableness, poorly educated non-readers prefering to watch nonsense not because they're manipulated into it by outside forces, but because this is just what they like

what are the implications for left-wing organizing strategy, which tends to resist trying to appeal directly to the interests of educated knowledge workers (or, indeed, young proletarianized female service workers with degrees) because of the aesthetic pull of historical industrial mass-movements?

what are the implications in the longer run, given that higher education enrolment levels have generally been rising over time, such that more than 50% of British young people now go into further education by age 30? what are the implications of this trend reversing, as is apparently happening in the US?

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>>2547267
there is an inevitability of a well-regulated chaos within a hellenic cosmopolitanism however - if we permit the cosmopolis ("society of the world") then we will create wealth inequality and also wealth opportunity. eroding borders would mean doing away with the artificial stratification of the north/south and so a new way of living would exist. nietzsche for example, expressly promotes race-mixing as a strategy for eugenics (not by preserving purity, but by the process of purification, in combining many aspects into one), which is entirely contrary to current right-wing myopia, which wants to end history altogether. the consciousness of the "radical right" (t. jonathan bowden) is not "conservative", but is a revaluation of all values, and particularly, socratism and christianity. i would say that new thinking can also be old thinking, without of course, spoilation through a "platonism for the masses".

>>2547229
Note how it's framed as a joke about bushes speaking style and flatters the reader's intelligence by relying on them getting the philosophical reference rather than just saying "republicans are retards lol!!" Directly.
(And even then, just calling your opponents dumb is different from actually analysing them on the basis of their stupidity)

>>2546215
>What are the implications of research regularly showing that right-wingers are generally
>a) less educated
>b) disinclined to reading
>c) low in traits like agreeableness and openness
>d) lower in cultural capital and status.

uhhh… it means they're working class

>>2586820
whoops

I don't put a lot of stock in research like this and the hyped up conclusions people draw from it. If you polled the average online leftist, you'd find them just as poorly read, less open etc. If openness, tolerance, and having elite cultural capital are core features of liberalism, then obviously right wing populists aren't going to score high in those areas because they oppose those values.

Politics today is overwhelmingly aesthetic. Why is someone a right winger? Because they watched a dozen wermacht edits and don't want uyghurs moving in next door. Why is someone a leftist? Its the whole Che T shirts thing all over again. Nobody reads or evaluates ideas. They pick stuff that makes them feel good and are encouraged to do so. Political theories are just instruments for power, tools for getting what you want. Why are there so many trans leftists? Because it gets them things. Why are many evangelicals right wingers? Because liberals always looked down on them and the left was too atheist, it didn't get them what thy wanted. Its really that simple.



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