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Khmer Rouge appreciation thread. I unironically believe that Pol Potism, along with Hoxhaism, is the ideal form of communism, and one of the only ways in which true communism can be achieved. We must be self-sufficient, able to produce our own food, and without the desire for property, if we are ever going to achieve communism beyond socialism.

>the desire for property
The final boss.
How would you defeat him?

Khmer Rouge is the most hoe scaring form of leftism even western Breznhevites in the 1970s tried to dodge any association between /pol/pot and gommunism.

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This is a genuinely underrated area specifically for american communists to penetrate but it has to be done very carefully and clandestinely, but this has unexpected advantages and points of leverage for workers that basically no other industry has.

The semiconductor industry has historically been one of the most extreme in its anti-union behaivor. The industry is one of the most important sectors to the entire bourgeois order. Its a resource in the ongoing great power rivalry and its an essential component in the entire economy as well as being intertwined with the defense industry. A strike at a few semi fabs doesn't just stop production at those fabs, it ripples through the entire economy.

This is why all attempts at open organizing have been swiftly put down by management. Lenin's model of factory cells operating in a clandestine fashion has to be implemented.

These companies employ armies of consultants, lawyers, and HR departments to surveill and identify behavor that looks like unionizing to nip it in the bud, however its primarily focused on open and obvious signs, such as workers huddling together at weird times, circulation of cards, and openly talking about unions. These structures are useless against the factory cell. Think about it: how the hell would management catch a factory cell organized of people who have become close friends on the job, that meets once a week in a location off property outside of work hours and has other cells in other factories doing the same thing, and cell members dont know the people in cells in other factories besides one external contact. An HR karen is no match for lenin.

This sector also contains some very specific characteristics and advantages that should make a prime target for militant communist organizing

•Extremely important
as previously mentioned this sector sits at the commanding heights of the capitalist economy, intertwined with national security interests and economic activity over the whole economy

•Low-offshore risk
governments are fighting to keep these factories on shore at all costs and make more. If a strike happens companies cannot simply threaten to move offshore for several reasons. 1. the equipment is extremely expensive and not easy to move unlike other manufacturing, and 2. much of these factories are built off government subsidised handouts that cannot just be taken back. and 3. these factories take massive capital and time Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2737571
>most of these jobs essentially require a just a highschool degree or at most a comunity college certifcate making it easy to access for communists
i am not so sure that leftypollers are smarter than 4channers



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Is he dead? That video was obviously ai generated. Why the fuck would they slop out a fake video unless he got bunkered?
If so, what will the ramifications be? Will trump get a replacement?
Something isn't right
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Satanyahoo is safely hiding away in some bunker in Europe or Florida. This demon literally starts wars to avoid getting dragged into court on anti-corruption charges; you really think he would be anywhere near the fighting once it started?
This reminds me of the overconfident Russian Ziggers who insisted Zelensky fled to Poland because he released some green-screen pre-recorded videos in February.

>>2737436
there are plenty of tools to detect AI, show me a convincing result from one

>>2737436
>Netanyahu's recent medical history shows a man under extreme physical duress:
>Prostate Surgery (Jan 2025): He was hospitalized for four days for a prostate removal and a subsequent urinary tract infection [6.3, 6.4].
>Hernia Surgery (Feb 2026): Just weeks before the war, he underwent another surgery for an inguinal hernia [4.2].
>Pacemaker Dependency: His doctors confirmed in late 2025 that he is monitored 24/7 for a "transient heart block" [3.1].
>The "Exhaustion" Reports: Even back in 2025, sources within the Knesset described him as "exhausted" and struggling to maintain his schedule [6.4].

If he's stuck in his bunker, very sick, shaking, sweaty, dosed up to the eyeballs on pills, barely coherent. Then it's very bad for army and public morale if the wartime leader looks weak.

guys, were supposed to be the intellectual and rational side, stop falling for bullshit likethis

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>>2737575
>very sick, shaking, sweaty, dosed up to the eyeballs on pills, barely coherent
what a pussy, i funpost in those conditions daily



 

What are your thoughts on the RCP/RCA/RCI? They seem to be the only communist group that's actively trying to organize near me but maybe I'm just not looking hard enough.
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I'm a troskyist btw. I like selling newspapers

>>2726858
That's some cool surface level insight you have on the ACP. Completely unrelated to this thread though. Especially since the US Section of the RCI is even more of a laughing stock compared to it's european counterparts.

>>2726876
Which one? Can i read it online?


>>2727001
dude ACP has absolutely no grounds to mock the RCI lol

>>2731342
Some Trots are alright. You guys have the best Newspaper where i live. The Tankies have one that is alright too but noone reads it.

>>2731834
Maybe not the RCI as a whole but the RCA are a complete joke.



 

How exactly are you supposed to overthrow the government of the most powerful country on Earth with a legally registered above ground organization where members don't hide their affiliation and which can never ever ever commit a crime? I don't support adventurism or terrorism or firebombing a Walmart or useless political assassinations that only have symbolic results. But revolution is still illegal and actually successfully accomplishing a real revolution involves committing countless crimes, often violent ones, and requires being actually capable of withstanding extremely intense state repression. The "left" in Western countries seems stuck in an eternal malaise where it struggles to accomplish virtually anything. Why? Let's look at the Western left. You either have glorified liberal NGOs with red flags doing an endless bullshit loop of holding up signs and selling newspapers or fighting losing battles to get tiny NLRB contracts, or ocassionally you have a schizophrenic anarchist/symbionese liberation army cult doing nothing but adventurism and firebombing walmarts. I posit that this malaise is because making a left-wing party is legal in liberal democracies, so any normal left wing party is lured to become a "legal" organization with all that entails. The exceptions in Western society naturally tend towards pure adventurism. I think the Bolsheviks actually significantly benefited from being an illegal underground party through most of the course of their existence. They had to learn the organizational tools to genuinely learn to survive state repression, to act decisively, and to build dual power without resorting to mindless suicidal adventurism. A revolution is not legal, so why would you try to accomplish the most brazenly illegal act of all (overthrowing the government) with a defanged legal organization? If the government decided to to a second Red Scare tomorrow, all these orgs would instantly evaporate. We need to go underground before being a communist is illegal and not after.
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vanguardism can't be purely legal,
or purely illegal.
it has to be a mixture of both!
at least in most standard accounts…
read lenin!
if you think about it, organized crime syndicates are bourgeois leninism. they do both legal activity (business fronts) and illegal activity (racketeering, prostitution, murder for hire, drug dealing, smuggling, etc.)
they use the illegal activity to fund the legal activity.
bolsheviks did the same.

>>2730093
What does that have to do with communism?

>>2728047
The participation of communists in a bourgeois election aims to gather the strength of radicalized workers, as a method to spread propaganda to the masses to lose faith in bourgeois democracy, so that radical reforms that prevent capital from accumulating with imperialism abroad or intensifying the exploitation of workers within the country, leading to a capitalist state in crisis, can occur, in order to intensify the class struggle instead of pacification. An example of such a program is the defense of guaranteed public employment, forced unionization of all workers, ensuring that all labor rights apply to all workers, ending the more intense exploitation of informal work, equalizing union wages and radically democratizing these unions by removing all barriers to union radicalization imposed by the bourgeois state or capitalist influence, guaranteeing the right to legal action for all workers to defend their rights with all costs passed on to the capitalist and the bourgeois state, guaranteeing solidarity in defending the labor rights of another worker, with all capitalists exploiting any worker being obliged to compensate that worker along with the union and the state, plus fines, and this will apply to everything and will be done so that capitalists go bankrupt to be collectivized and nationalized since they will be competing with state-owned companies in the market, which intends to cheapen consumer products in order to deliberately bankrupt private companies.

Another program that communists should defend in a bourgeois election is the nationalization of all banks, because no bank should have any independence or be free from politics. A workers' statistics council without "technocrats" will control inflation by balancing workers' wages with the price of food and workers' consumption so that no costs are passed on to the workers. Cheap credit will be used to benefit cooperatives, state-owned companies, and workers, and to indebt capitalists so they can be expropriated. All money abroad will be cut off for puppets of financial capital, both in weapons and debt, including non-profit organizations, to foster solidarity with workers worldwide. A country's public debt should be reviewed, as should all contracts with capitalists, prioritizing non-payment of the debt and abolishing any fiscal responsibility or spending cap used as an excusePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2678397
Prove him wrong and name a third world revolution that led to AES (Nepal did not)

>>2678366
I think he was talking about 2006 Revolution and not the Gen Psyop Revolution.

>>2733142
These Demands where pretty basic for European Communist Parties pre 91. Eurocommnism has slowly dragged these Parties away from Commnism and made them Opportunistic Social Democratic Platforms reminiscent of Socdem Parties just before Blairism destroyed those just about a decade earlier.



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Let's stop ignoring the elephant in the room.
The most important question is THE violence question.
How do we prevent or beat counter-revolutionary state violence? We all know the only reason revolutions fail is because of state violence and terrorism. The state will not only kill you, but also brutally torture you and your family to destroy the movement.

Let's be realistic, we can't militarily beat 60.000 death squads, eh sorry "special forces". Guerrilla warfare is useless too. They will kill the population that supports you and it's too exhausting for the fighters living in the jungle.
Only way we can win is through the political arena while at the same time preventing reactionary violence. This is the question that must be answered.
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>>2698958

Dont listen to this guy he is a drug addeled gang member who belongs to a camp whos agenda aims to destroy the truest form of socialism he will lead you to destruction and hatred. No different than a neo nazi.

>>2701305

factssss wasnt he also outted as a dea informant?? theyre probably paying him to get people to tote the decentralized resistance line with the goal of leading the left off a cliff. fafo

>>2698958


what exactly does a bunch of people fighting cops do to bring a kids life back.. or make life better for working classes? nothing its just criminality. my god ultra left people need to get a lobotomy. if they try anything like that in america again the rational leftists need to lay the smack down on them and kick them out of protests and the entire ice thing. Please jucheposter, seek mental help you dont seem well.

>>2700283
This. The bourgeoisie should be shot summarily of course, but perhaps their soon-to-be counter-revolutionary children, rather than being shot alongside to no benefit for society, could be provided to experimentation institutions.

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I'm prototyping a new website idea for cataloging solid debunks of common capitalist talking points. Please give some feedback on the layout before I start filling it with proper content (these are just placeholder examples).

>minimalist design, resources and similar claims are easy to find

>what other information would be useful for resources to show?
>should the related claims section be placed above the resources?
>are these introductions too long?
>other suggestions?
The alternative phrasings section is to help search discovery.
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>>2715688
>Divs are fine as long as you're literally using them as divisions though, just there is a common habit to just use them for everything with CSS classes, so I'm mentioning it.
Mozilla docs linked to https://inclusive-components.design/cards/ , which suggests the Resources boxes can be interpreted as a list of elements, which sounds reasonable to me. Unfortunately MediaWiki is failing to properly render them properly as <ul> due to the <ul> inside the summary, so I can either workaround by abusing an <ol> for unordered cards, or just keep them as <div> cards

>>2714253
I don't want to discourage anyone who isn't a completely lazy fuck like me, but who is the audience for the site? I suggest that, realistically speaking, the only audience you can expect is an audience of fellow debate-bro leftists. So you'd be honing their debate points maybe. Okay, fine. The ultimate problem is that being a debate-bro doesn't have the pull it used to. The overwhelming majority of people who'd be the easiest converts to leftism would still rather spend their time Netflixing or searching on dating apps for new pussy/cock to bang than spend their time pondering anti-capitalist talking points.

>>2721295
It's an important question to ask.
I would expand this and say it's intended audience is mainly public-facing socialist online communities (incl. /leftypol/, some lemmy/reddit comms) who receive a lot of liberal posts and can collectively save time with quick convenience copypasta. Basically an attempt to build a better alternative to curt RTFMposting - because many people will not RTFM, and many online-leftists don't know which Ms are best to send over anyway.
It's also for the debate-bros and redpill dealers in comment sections. The bottom line is that if someone is reading the kind of comment sections where these arguments appear, they're not Netflixing nor chilling. And if most times they see some shitpost talking point, they see it refuted in a quick video with a link to extended reading, I reckon that would at least plant a seed of doubt that hopefully primes them to be more open if-and-when their sex-buddy cries "Marx!" mid-orgasm.

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>>2715636
Too modern?

>>2725104
That's a worse layout



 

Transitions between modes of production are of an uncertain nature. They are not always brought about by revolution, reform, or planning, but sometimes by a combination of all 3, or by blind historical forces operating over several centuries.

The transition from primitive communism to slavery, and the transition from slavery to serfdom were neither brought about through the planning of the ruling class, nor through revolution, but through unplanned historical changes over several centuries. The notion that modes of production always (rather than merely sometimes) transform through deliberate revolution is ahistorical projection of the bourgeois revolutions forward in history. What history shows is that modes of production do exist and do change, but whether they change through revolution, reform, or in a totally unplanned way over a long period of time, is up to local material conditions.
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>>2695588
> this was not a political battle, but rather a claim of personal freedom by exile.
the third servile war was absolutely a political battle. deploying the military to crush a slave revolt and then crucify the survivors along the appian way is absolutely political

similar topic >>2728765

>>2686845
This is all true, but there are certain definite material changes we can fight for to help speedup the advance out of wage slavery most of them being listed in the manifesto.

>>2697831
Paul ererctionejection right as usual

>>2694327
>but it also distorts the marxian historicity of the "wage labourer" as the new subject (who in fact is very old in the history of man).
wage labor is old, but wage labor as the primary form of labor in a mode of production is new. for most of history, wage laborers were a minority in any society which instead had an enslaved or enserfed majority



 

Instead of abolishing the petty bourgeoisie, the petty bourgeoisie will simply be (knowingly or unknowingly, willingly or unwillingly, it does not matter) brought into the fold of monopoly capital, the same way peripheral nations were brought into the fold of imperialism. The total horizontal and vertical integration of capital is not complete, but I will give you a simple anecdote illustrating my point. I had a coworker ask ChatGPT what I thought was a naive question. He asked ChatGPT a question about the small business we worked out, and it knew way more than we possibly expected. It had hyper specialized knowledge on our practices and our ways of doing things. It wasn't necessarily doxxing workers, but it was creepy how much it knew. In the 20th century companies did everything they could to prevent "corporate espionage" and "intellectual property theft" but with LLMs that very process has essentially become legalized because it is useful to everyone. And the workers willingly participate in it. They paste their own company's source code into a monopoly's LLM just to speed up a bug fix. Well where does that lead? And btw I don't work at a software company. Chat GPT was answering questions about arcane manual labor procedures at my company… how did it know? Someone must have willingly given it that knowledge at some point to abridge some labor process for themselves. If all this development and accumulation is shattered due to climate change in WW3 where will that leave us? I have no idea. We are cursed to live in interesting times. And the tech becomes more sophisticated and self governing as the people themselves become more ignorant and less technically skilled… it is as if Arthur Clarke's rule about technology and magic is proving itself true not just through the sophistication of the tech itself, but through the dumbing down and hyper-narrowly-focused-specialization of the very people who are building it.
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>>2737168
if you actually read books instead of imageboard posts youd know that shit just fluctuates all the time. hell, when capitalism was still in diapers during marx's time the (correct) prediction at the time was that the middle classes would grow (malthus, marx, etc). whats next, the next big crisis is gonna destroy capitalism this time for sure instead of capital just regaining its strength eventually if nothing is done?

>>2737171
>why even bump the thread if you don't like it
sage is so irrelevant on a dead forum and the thread was already at the top moron

>>2737148
>this is such a fucking retarded concept and completely impossible without abolishing class society altogether
Are there any real world examples of this happening.

>>2737148
>oh wait
>i forgot midwits here think petit bourgeois is just like small business owners or something (and even then…).
Who do you belive they are then?

>>2737196
Blue haired bisexuals with septum piercing.

>>2737189
>the (correct) prediction at the time was that the middle classes would grow (malthus, marx, etc)
sounds like the middle classes will take over when the mode of production dies just like happened with slavery and feudalism. see >>2686845



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Let us start off by saying, dialectical materialism is not a collection of quotations to be deployed like talismans. It is a method for grasping reality in its constant motion, its internal contradictions, its tendency to transform into its opposite. As Engels put it, dialectics is "the science of the general laws of motion and development of nature, human society, and thought." To think dialectically is to understand that every social form contains the seeds of its own negation, that what works in one epoch becomes fetter in the next, and that clinging to organizational templates perfected under dead conditions is not fidelity to Marxism, it is its opposite.

The central insight of historical materialism is that the mode of production conditions social life in its totality. But western production today is no longer confined to factories and fields alone, labor is more precarious, and the relation to commodity is often more apparent than the relation to production. On top of this, the state's in the west now produce surveillance at an industrial, high-tech private-public allegiance scale. The security apparatus employs more people than the entire automobile industry. If the forces of production and state repression have transformed, so too must the forces of revolutionary organization. This is not deviation it is proper materialism applied to pre revolutionary conditions.

Consider the actual conditions facing revolutionaries in the contemporary United States. The intelligence state operates with a budget exceeding seventy-five billion dollars and employs over two hundred thousand personnel across sixteen agencies, and this doesn't include all the private state-aligned actors and organizations. The post-9/11 era has dissolved the boundary between foreign and domestic surveillance, integrated private technology firms as deputized intelligence collectors, and normalized warrantless monitoring as administrative routine. COINTELPRO was not an aberration; it was a pilot program for something much larger, written up by the CIA.

The Tsarist Okhrona employed perhaps ten thousand people. The Stasi, at its peak, maintained one hundred thousand informants for a population of seventeen million. That's just to reference scale. The NSA collects metadata on every American. RICO act makes formal groups especially prone to heavy federal repression, if even one individual slips up, a RICO can be brought against leadership. The material conditions hPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2735280

This is a critique on the uselessness of most modern leftist "parties" and "orgs" in the USA, and the material reasoning for it, not a discussion on any successful revolution that have already occurred in the past.

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>>2735266

This is not a description of the revolutionary period. This all relates to the pre-revolutionary period, the long stretch of capitalist "normalcy" which is characterized by what Gramsci called "war of position". The slow, patient construction of counter-hegemonic institutions, the building of class consciousness, the creation of networks of trust and solidarity that can withstand state pressure. In this phase, the working class is not yet in motion as a class-for-itself. The revolutionary organization exists as a minority, a vanguard in the literal sense, an advanced detachment operating ahead of the main force.

Under these conditions, the evidence from state security forces is unambiguous, decentralized, distributed organization offers greater resilience. The FBI could devastate the CPUSA because it was visibly centralized, and unfortunately this has an impact on the function of the organizations whole. The Spanish security forces engaged in "questionable infiltration" of radical movements because they were diffuse. The Italian DIGOS had to mobilize resources across multiple provinces to track a handful of Telegram chats. The Greek state turned to Predator spyware because traditional human intelligence could not penetrate distributed networks. The British prosecutions and preemptive raids decreased in efficiency when the IRA adopted a distributed / decentralized model.

This is not anarchism. It is adaptation to material conditions. The pre-revolutionary period requires organizations that can survive long enough to do the work of consciousness-building. A party that is rolled up by the FBI in five years cannot build anything. A network that sheds nodes and regenerates can continue organizing for decades.

Marx himself, in The Eighteenth Brumaire, described how the French peasantry existed as a class "in itself" but not "for itself" because they were "formed by simple addition of homologous magnitudes, much as potatoes in a sack form a sack of potatoes." The task of the pre-revolutionary period is to transform that sack of potatoes into a conscious political force. This work does not require a central committee issuing orders to millions. It requires patient, distributed, trust-based organizing across workplaces, neighborhoods, and communities. Hidden in plain sight, visible when the action and results become apparePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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The decentralized organizational model, while offering resilience against infiltration, contains distinct material vulnerabilities that state security forces have consistently exploited across North America and Southern Europe. In the United States, the 2023 FBI seizure of Kolektiva.social's (anti-capitalist / anti-colonial communication network) servers revealed how digital decentralization distributes security responsibility to individual administrators who may lack capacity to resist state operation or pressure, in this case resulting in the exposure of over 8,000 users' personal data including emails, IP addresses, and unencrypted direct messages . Canada's Coastal GasLink campaign demonstrated both the model's strengths and weaknesses, the February 2022 attack involving 15-20 camouflaged individuals who caused $20 million in damage in under an hour, remains unsolved with no suspects identified years later, yet the decentralized structure's flaws allowed the state to politically isolate the movement by framing the attackers as "outside agitators" unconnected to legitimate Indigenous resistance . Their highly orchestrated and planned entry and escape seeming to appear out of nowhere, with no apparent organizational ties only helped fuel the cointelpro style rumor conspiracies of "paid actors used to denounce the movement".

The academic literature on leaderless resistance confirms that while distributed networks provide "a high degree of operational security" in theory, in practice isolated actors struggle with poor tradecraft in multiple dimensions, and when seeking assistance they can often be manipulated into the idea of more "spectacular actions" in sting operations. There is not some inherent perfection to this organizing and struggle method, but they exist for a reason, under very specific modern conditions and we as Marxists must vigorously think on how we can successfully build on these realities?

>>The Dialectics of Pre-Revolutionary Form


The evidence from state security forces across North America and Southern Europe confirms what dialectical materialism would predict with ease, organizational form is not a matter of ideological preference but of strategic adaptation to material conditions. The centralized party model that served the Bolsheviks under Tsarist autocracy became, under the very different conditions of post-9/11 surveillance capitalism, a gift to state intelligence agencPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>Counter repression

For every state tactic, a counter-tactic should immediately emerge from the broader struggle itself. The media-driven isolation that the state deploys against decentralized movements, framing militants as "outside agitators," "hooded anarchists," or "violent extremists" finds its negation in the presence of conscious, formally visible figures who share the movement's general principles and can articulate its meaning to a broader public. These individuals are media figures, not formal leaders, and yes, they can vary and rotate, and be replaced ideally, though they ought to be defended with ferocity so long as they serve their role.

A tiny example of this in function would be the Charlottesville counter-demonstrations of August 2017. When neo-Nazis and other reactionaries descended on the city, the antifascist marxist and anarchist formations that confronted them became immediate targets of media framing as violent instigators equally as responsible for the young IWW members death. But Cornel West, the Harvard and Princeton philosopher who had placed his body on the line behind them, understood exactly what the corporate media was attempting. When interviewers sought to extract condemnations of the "hooded anarchists and ultras," West refused the bait. Instead, he turned the frame inside out.

In the aftermath of the violence that claimed the life of Heather Heyer, West told Democracy Now again, doubling down, "The antifascists, and then, crucial, the anarchists, because they saved our lives, actually. We would have been completely crushed, and I'll never forget that. Meaning what? Meaning that you had the police holding back, on the one hand, so we couldn't even get arrested. We were there to get arrested. We couldn't get arrested, because the police had pulled back, and just allowing fellow citizens to go at each other" .

West did not distance himself from the masked militants. He did not perform the ritual of condemnation that the media demanded. Instead, he named them as protectors, as warriors using their energy in the service of liberation, as the reason he and others survived the reactionary onslaught. "If not for them," his intervention suggested, "we'd have been beaten to a pulp."

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>Lenin would understand this
KEEP MY WIFE'S NAME OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MOUTH



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