/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Is it easier to learn vietnamese or chinese? I'm a latino looking to save money and get the fuck out of latam.

Cuba is one of two genuine socialist economies I the world (the other being the DPRK). Vietnam more or less follows the Chinese model which I would argue is a valid means of socialist construction but is more strictly speaking a form of state capitalism (as Lenin used the term).
>>2589134
>Cuba is a shithole overrun by CIA ideology
Wtf does that mean?
>Vietnam has recently made surprising moves of rapprochmont with China. So I'd say Vietnam is socialist.
Socialism is when you have good relations with China.
>>2589135
With Vietnamese you at least wouldn't need to learn a new writing system.

>>2589135
probably viet

Boring. Seen this one.

>>2555806
china doesnt owe you anything you chvd.

>>2588830
tbh he isn't wrong about religioncucks

>>2588830
Israeli logic. One of them wrote this.

Propagandized aging millenniods thread

Veysi Aktaş: The Turkish left continues with the same old routine, not renewing itself
Leader Apo's message was read at the International Peace and Democratic Society Conference organized in Istanbul by the Peoples' Equality and Democracy Party (DEM Party).

The letter was read by Veysi Aktaş, who was released after spending 30 years in prison, the last 10 of which were in İmralı.

Speaking to Bianet, Aktaş responded to criticisms of the letter. He stated that the common problem stemming from the reaction from the government, as well as the left and socialists, is bigotry. He said, "Bigotry isn't just experienced on the right; it's also experienced on the left. This is one of the most fundamental problems facing the Turkish left. For this reason, a 'breakthrough' is impossible. Socialization is impossible, and those ideological molds can't be broken and established on a political basis."

'SOCIALISTS HAVE NO REASON TO SAY'

Aktaş, reminding that the letter draws attention to the crises experienced by the left not only in Turkey but also globally, stated the following: "There's no end to socialists' words. 'We've told the world what we had to say in the name of socialism, and that's it.' A socialist's words are endless. It's impossible for a socialist to experience political deadlock. Because they are based on society, they're based on truth. These assessments are an acceptance of the end or bankruptcy. The Turkish left, too, continues with this mentality, following the same rote, failing to renew itself. In fact, they're essentially holding onto a set of dogmas. They think that if they abandon these dogmas, they'll be swept away, they'll lose everything. That's why they cling to those dogmas so tightly. And they don't analyze them, they don't criticize them, they don't approach them with a free mind. The same rote is repeated over and over again.

WHY DON'T THE TURKS HAVE A HISTORY OF THE OPPRESSED?

Criticizing the Turkish left's understanding of history and calling for a self-critical approach, Aktaş said: “If they want to interpret the leadership correctly, they need to improve themselves in historical sociology. They need to read history correctly. They are strangers to their own history. Even within their own history, a 'history of the oppressed' hasn't yet been uncovered. Why don't the Turks have a history of the oppressed? They are constantly being imposed upon a hiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2587861
damn based anarchist

>>2587885
God the seething and the 'nooo why aren't you doing what I want you to do?!?' is off the charts here. Its depressing how far fallen the anarchist space has.
Fdpd

I will say, if anarchists were as willing to cooperate with le stalinists in the Spanish civil war as they were in Rojava, Franco would be living in a prison in Morroco.

https://www.autistici.org/tridnivalka/focus-on-rojava/
>Why a focus on Rojava in 2024? Both because of random discussions, but also because the most widespread form of military-revolutionary mythology about Rojava has reappeared as an ideological support for an “anarchist” commitment to the war in Ukraine, going as far as to valorize the career paths of people who have gone from one war to another. On this occasion, a military commitment in Rojava is “naturally” presented as an authoritative justification for joining the Ukrainian troops “in any case”, the case being understood as a leftist or “anarchist” cause.
[…]
>The struggle in Chiapas since the 90s was– and to some extent remains – a banner for this matrix, although this does not coincide with its complex and contradictory reality, a serious analysis of which would take up too much space here. Anyway, a superficial and left-wing vision of Chiapas is often provided by the zealots of “Revolutionary Rojava” in support of their theses, notably on these issues: autonomy, territory, civil society, democracy without a State, participative governance, armed struggle, gender. All these elements need to be critically examined, but the very nature of the ideological matrix is to make them unchallengeable, in a fearsome machine that has seen considerable expansion about Rojava. Instead of talking about the fate of the insurrectional struggle of 2011 and beyond, instead of seeing the Kurdish national movement as antagonistic to that struggle, we are being fooled with the people, militarism-feminism, collaborative economy and the glorification of “civil society”, as if the latter were not the space par excellence of class collaboration, the other face of the State, its guarantor and pillar.

You can't talk about anything here unless it's shitty boring xitter leftist consensus.

I think her view is insane but amusing and worth discussing. Mods here are literal dogshit in human form.

May suicidal ideation haunt the rest of your hopefully short lives mods.

>>2587547
This chick clearly has BPD. I can tell from her eyes.

>”doctors are COPS”
Pretty sure this is the exact same line of reasoning used by anti-vaxxers.

Did this girl take the covid vaccine if she’s so anti-doctor?

Show this thread to Maupin and ask his opinion.

Symbolic politics at its finest.

She might as well say this to the millions of Americans who die due to lack of healthcare access. What a fucking privileged c*nt.

>>2563436
Mutual aid with Nazis will only end with a bigger mess than you started off with

>>2564094
>>2563434
Can you finally accept that its your neighbors and friends that are voting for the Nazis instead of some shadowy foreign cabal that brainwashed your poor fellow Germans to be Nazis (again).

>>2588033
Both are true

>>2563322
>I know it must be hard for a lot of you people to understand, but China is more concerned about its own national interests to be sovereign
The the same future that all sovereign nations face will come to China. Too bad.

>>2587975
>maybe there are some "real" nations, russia and china feel real
Damn what a coincidence!

>>2587938
Very interesting, I also think that the rejection of existence of races is too much.

>>2588088
>>2588093
we need to be more like saudi arabia

>>2588093
holy shit some people really love to completely invent a position nobody expressed to attack it.
they're called dishonest retards

I've read bits and pieces about the NYC DSA being firmly in the grasp of the DSA right, here's to hoping that some people up there manage to either dislodge the right or create enough momentum outside of it to keep the city officials in line

>>2549889
When are we going to send the Indians to reeducation camps to make them abandon their reactionary faith? Just like what China is doing to the Islamic Uygurs?

>>2550541
We leave the berets for 2 people: sliwa and tom morrelo. If everyone wore berets, they wouldn't have the same aura

>>2550536
This whole Felix apologism is so retarded because anyone who does it completely ignores his absolute batshit takes detached from reality like "kill every burger" and shit

>>2586744
Heh, Auschwitz was inter-imperialist war

>>2588034
Yeah as in Nazis, Soviets and Westoids decided to collectively genocide proles

>>2582459
Western governments are directly involved in the Sudanese genocide too sooooo

>>2582471
I mean supporting imperialist mass slaughters of the proletariat is 1000% a leftist position, just not a communist one

Most of this board are basically homicidal socdems with too much autisms to fit in around other socdems

>>2588034
What else would you call a global conflict between two imperialist camps that ended with the victory of capitalism?

I think that he's the most advanced Marxist theorist since Lenin and a successor to Marx and Lenin

Gramsci > Stalin

>>2587426

That is not a high bar

He promotes class collaboration

I like the leftists who don't get imprisoned 🐺

There's a certain irony involving some of the people here that support reactionary immigrants being allowed into the west getting upset when reactionary /pol/tards are allowed to migrate to leftpol and start posting here

>>2587879
how about we shove it up your ass?

>>2587911
open ur own anal borders

>>2587879
>There's a certain irony involving some of the people here that support reactionary immigrants being allowed into the west
I too love saying things that were never said in the thread. When anons say those who don't like migrants want to kill every single migrant in existence? Absurd. When people say they are against bourgeoisie collaboration and are not for either side of the issue? Well, truly these people just want reactionary migrants, there's no other reason.

Fuck off lol.

>>2587879
Trvthnvke
Just as the middle class liberals love immigrants until they see a Mexican in their suburb, so too does the leftypoloid until he sees a polchud post on his website

We need solidarity with the polchuds, no more NOMWSs (not on my website)
Leftypol has a stagnant ppd (posts per day) if it wasn’t for our beloved pol migrants we’d be in a ppd decline, we should have threads advertising us on /pol/ 24/7 so our pps can rise