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Why did the British colonial system in India formalize and exploit an indigenous social system that posits a fundamental moral inequality between groups of people?

Would it have been better that the British impose the imperialist European values of universal human dignity and rights on their colonial subjects?
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>>2579817
Depends on the time and place. Women used to be bought and sold for marriage dowries. Anyway serfs were tied to land. I wasn't saying women are slaves, but that they are seen as property in a lot of societies, which is why there is this asymmetrical with relationships. It's why men are more than happy to have sex with women of other races but when "their" (property) women have sex with men of other races, the West/East/North/South has fallen and billions must die.

>>2579821
thanks for the book


iirc India was ready to drop the caste system
to which england intervened to keep it.

>>2579821
thank you anon <3



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Ah, look, look! [sniffs violently] This whole question of the hammer and the sickle—my God!—it is already a kind of ideological joke, eh? Because when we look at symbols, we think they are innocent little pictograms. But symbols—they are like those weird Slovenian pastries: they always hide something inside, something messy, something unexpected. [sniff]

And so let me propose—of course, in a totally irresponsible, speculative way—that the hammer and sickle is not merely a workers’ emblem, no! It is like a dialectical offspring, a strange symbolic synthesis, between the Christian cross and the Islamic crescent-and-star.

You see, in early Christianity—especially before it became this gigantic bureaucratic megachurch—there is this radical concern for the poor, the oppressed. You have this idea that the first shall be last, that the beggar is closer to truth than the emperor. And what is this if not the proto-Marxist suspicion that the ruling class is full of, eh, ideological nonsense? [sniffs]

And then, Islam—look, please, I say this with all respect and purely in symbolic terms—brings this martial decisiveness, this warrior energy. Not in the Hollywood sense of violence and terrorism, but in the sense of the angel with the flaming sword, the insistence that faith is inseparable from action. It is a kind of ethical militancy: do something, engage, submit not to oppression but to the absolute.

So what happens when you combine these? [sniff] You get the hammer and sickle: the Christian concern for the poor—the weak, the exploited—joined with the Islamic ethos of active struggle, of refusing to be passive. It is as if the cross and the crescent enter a Hegelian marriage: thesis, antithesis, and then—boom!—the proletarian symbol emerges as the bastard child.

And the beauty—eh, the obscenity!—is that Marxism tries to become a universal emancipatory project without the supernatural elements. It keeps the moral passion of early Christianity, the activist thrust of Islam, but throws out God like old cabbage from a Slovenian kitchen. [sniffs, gestures wildly]

So the hammer and sickle becomes this strange thing: a materialist Pentecost, a secular jihad, a revolution without heaven, formed from the leftovers of two great religious traditions, but now made edible for the modern worker.

And this, of course, is precisely why nobody wants to admit it! Because it reveals that even our most “atheist” symbols are hPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Classic leftypol sniffposting

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Why the fuck does FINANCE make so much money despite not producing anything and therefore being even more parasitic and useless than even normal capitalist companies that make goods and services, its like capitalism in its purest form of just being a machine that turns money into more money with zero social utility.
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>>2578768
>BTW… that's why even "day trading" is inaccessible to the proletariat: they are either broke or in debt.
Me, and my parents, are all proletarians and have each earned enough money to invest in mutual funds. There are some nice benefits to socdem life.

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>>2578772
>If only Marx had the balls to actually work a proletarian job, maybe his life wouldn't be so fraught and precarious.

but the life of the proletariat IS fraught and precarious, especially in the time/place Marx was writing about them:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch10.htm

<Dr. Greenhow states that the average duration of life in the pottery districts of Stoke-on-Trent, and Wolstanton is extraordinarily short. Although in the district of Stoke, only 36.6% and in Wolstanton only 30.4% of the adult male population above 20 are employed in the potteries, among the men of that age in the first district more than half, in the second, nearly 2/5 of the whole deaths are the result of pulmonary diseases among the potters. Dr. Boothroyd, a medical practitioner at Hanley, says:


<“Each successive generation of potters is more dwarfed and less robust than the preceding one.”


<In like manner another doctor, Mr. M’Bean:


<“Since he began to practice among the potters 25 years ago, he had observed a marked degeneration especially shown in diminution of stature and breadth.”


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>>2578790
Well today the most immiserated proletariat are the people mining the minerals which end up in your devices. And that's why Lenin wrote extensively about the labor aristocracy in imperial core countries and the need for anti-imperialist solidarity with oppressed nations:

<Obviously, out of such enormous superprofits (since they are obtained over and above the profits which capitalists squeeze out of the workers of their “own” country) it is possible to bribe the labour leaders and the upper stratum of the labour aristocracy. And that is just what the capitalists of the “advanced” countries are doing: they are bribing them in a thousand different ways, direct and indirect, overt and covert.


<This stratum of workers-turned-bourgeois, or the labour aristocracy, who are quite philistine in their mode of life, in the size of their earnings and in their entire outlook, is the principal prop of the Second International, and in our days, the principal social (not military) prop of the bourgeoisie. For they are the real agents of the bourgeoisie in the working-class movement, the labour lieutenants of the capitalist class, real vehicles of reformism and chauvinism. In the civil war between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie they inevitably, and in no small numbers, take the side of the bourgeoisie, the “Versaillese” against the “Communards.”



<Private property based on the labour of the small proprietor, free competition, democracy, all the catchwords with which the capitalists and their press deceive the workers and the peasants are things of the distant past. Capitalism has grown into a world system of colonial oppression and of the financial strangulation of the overwhelming majority of the population of the world by a handful of “advanced” countries. And this “booty” is shared between two or three powerful world plunderers armed to the teeth (America, Great Britain, Japan), who are drawing the whole world into their war over the division of their booty.


- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, PREFACE TO THE FRENCH AND GERMAN EDITIONS

<Imperialism is the highest stage of development of capitalism. Capital in the advanced countries has
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>>2578687
thats great but why does industrial capital tolerate this and not just form their own banks instead of letting finance capital siphon off their profits

>>2579570
i mean they do. but then many industrial capitalists become finance capitalists, because financial markets offer quicker and often higher returns than reinvesting in production. so as surplus profits accumulate, it becomes more profitable for industrial capitalists to place money into financial assets or create finance subsidiaries. 🤑



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What it says on the tin, this applies to Western Leftism as a whole, but particularly American “socialism” can be written off as basically the militant defense of capitalism and Empire

What do I mean? American Leftism almost entirely centers around resurrecting the 90 year old New Deal. That is literally it. Nothing more radical. Nothing less imperial. Hell, usually not even anything less racist! American leftoids do not care about the history of the New Deal, do not care about the contradictions of the New Deal, do not care about the outcome of the New Deal nor the purpose of the New Deal. Unironically all that matters to them is that for nearly a century they have been taught that socialism is when the government does things therefore FDR was a communist. And that’s a good thing. This is unironically what the majority of American leftists believe. I know why they believe these things, but is it possible to break them out of their worship of the Settler Fuhrer (FDR) and his radical program to save capitalism through Americanization and American totalitarianism?
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>>2577641
Im not reading this shit

the Swedish socdems did much worse than sterilizing cripples. for one thing they turned a blind eye to freikorps (Munchska kåren), they forbade sending aid to Spanish Republicans, they armed Finnish Whites during the Finnish revolution

>>2577823
I think the problem is more that the uniparty pretty much controls the entire election process from top to bottom, up to and including who gets on the ballot and how they're counted.

>>2579366
Join school boards and shit 🙄

Because things like class struggle and class consciousness are merely asserted as hegemonic ideals despite lacking a material basis born from actual struggle within the labor movement, in no small part because American corporations both de-industrialized and are on a footing of total warfare at the mere hint of union drives.



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Since 2021 the Burmese Communist Party has re-armed and re-entered Burma both from across the border of China and by re-activating sympathetic Communists in the All Burma Federation of Student Unions (a process that started in 2017).

With the start of the civil war, they re-activated and are fighting in an alliance with the People's Defence Forces against the Tatmadaw.

The BCP/PLA follows the principles of Maoism. At the start they had ~1,000 soldiers under their command. Now it is said to be 3,000. They have a presence across most of northern Myanmar (Pale Township, Kan Duak, some areas near the capital, Mandalay, Shan State, Sagaing, Magway and Tanintharyi regions).

None of the territory appears to be governed by the BCP, they collect taxes but as of now have not yet formed liberated zones with their own socialist governance.

Please post any discussion or notes about PLA in Burma here.

Image 1 is from last year, 138 elephants were captured and were to be used for military purposes

Image 2 is from last September, in Northern Shan state during Operation 1027 (a lot of PDF ops are named with numbers for some reason)

Image 3 is Niko :)
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Are these the ones that uphold Xi Jinping thought or is that another one

>>2579290

That's the MNDAA.

PLA isn't hostile to China though (after all, they were hosted on the Chinese border during their exile)

>>2579291
> they were hosted on the Chinese border during their exile
Officially? Proofs? That would really shut the "China isn't helping the international left" crowd.

>>2579293

That is how Burmese sources have described it: https://ispmyanmarpeacedesk.com/eao/pla/

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good thread anon
https://t.me/plaburmainfo
reposting this here for PLA telegram link



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Hear me out because I've been thinking about this for a long time.
The means justify the ends, why not use the capitalist mode of production to raise class consciousness and delve deeper into contradiction to its maxima? We ought to spread internationalism via transnational corporations, an internationalist party with bosses multi-billion dollar business that finances propaganda exclusively to win the information war. Accumulate capital to utilize later, accumulate capital to harness power and influence. Ultra-CPC that focuses not on one nation but the entirety of EuroAsiatic continental influence that spreads it wings across the World. Be bourgeoisie to liquidate the bourgeoisie, be capitalist to end the capitalist mode of production, the NEP has not been fulfilled yet, industrialization is not enough, be Machiavellian, read and study the genius of Nick Land.
ICP will not do it. Make an ICP that will enter the EU parliament an ICP that will campaign in the bourgeois democracy of America, make an ICP that profits, an ICP that employs labour, make an ICP that's a business with a boss. Use the internationalism of capital - the global element to spread influence and when the time comes with all the accumulated capital and businesses harnessed - start the class war, once militaries have been privatized and bought. To end the contradictions within capitalism once and for all, harness them. Be greater than the chauvinist nonchalant neglegent CPC which remains concerned only with itself and its lands. Grow as global capital, be Soros, welcome Soros, be the ultra left wing of capital and pave the road for the real movement.
Down with equality, equalities create contempt and make workers docile. Be capitalist in practice, be communist in programme to end capital, to expand, to grow, to overthrow.
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We need millions of Xi Jinpings, at least 5 Xi Jinpings in every nation.

no


nick land is a fucking retard, better luck next time




 

Started going over national governments the other night just to se how many could accurately be described as "Fascist" at this point and this is what I came to.
It really is insane how much of the world is run xenophobic thugs enforcing """property rights""" at the barrel of a gun and even more so how basically every "liberal" state on earth outside of Latin America or Southern is trending that way.
It makes me think Lennin was more right then he knew about the final stage of Capitalism being Fascism; only I dont think its going to be limmited to the imperial corps.
Honestly at this point I think almost every nation on earth is going to go fascist eventually and it will only be in the wreckage of the resource wars and climate catastrophe of the 21st century that the world, a century from now, will begin to look for alternatives once the death drive has completely burned itself out..
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>calling north korea socialist
>calling all nordic countries fascist
breh

this entire thread is beyond retarded. this is what map games do to your brain?

why the fuck is colombia the same color as venezuela? because the left-leaning candidate won the elections? and what happens 4 years from now?

elections don't change the material conditions, a capitalist country is a capitalist country regardless of bourgeois democracy. does this mean that colombia is in the same category, or should be considered to have the same position as argentina or bolivia? in broad terms yes, although the fact that there is a left-leaning president there does change things a little, it isn't a fundamental distinction

there are only two colors in the modern world: the countries where the capitalists are the dominant class and the countries where they are not. at most you could argue for a third category of countries where the local capitalists holds more power than foreign capitalists (russia, for example), but the lesson of the 20th century is that bourgeois nationalism always capitulates, so even then the situation won't hold for long

>>2579273
Columbia is literally a fascist state too its been at war with the ELN since the 60's.

Donald Trump is surely a fascist

>>2579272
both are true albeitever



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Any thoughts?
I think McPherson is the only serious candidate.
I don’t think the NDP is a serious party.
Their Indigenious ‘rights’ activism hurts them heavily with blue collar workers who want major projects built without grifting First Nations.

Montrealer here.

I live in Boulerice’s district, in Rosemont. I assumed the NDP was going to pick him as leader since he has a pretty consistent record.



 

I tell you these things because I know you won't believe me, which I find vindictively and contemptuously amusing. So when you ignore me and call me a paranoid-schizophrenic conspiracy theorist I can have the last laugh when all the below and far more happens – as you all are slapped in chains, herded into boxcars, towards your designated FEMA deathcamp or 15-minute SMART City of their choosing (or else… *rifles clicking*), you'll be sobbing and wailing, "Why didn't anyone warn us?! How could this be happening!? Who saw this coming!!" I'll be there in spirit, smirking, hissing in your ears: "Told ya so. You could have stopped this. But you chose to laugh at and insult us insane far-right misinformation super-spreaders and anti-vaxxer bigots and science- and climate-denying experts-distrusters. Don't call it a grave, it's the bed you made."

It's almost here, didn't you know? The coming Obsidian worldwide social credit score and central bank digital currency? No one seems to have a clue all which has been planned for CENTURIES is going to be fully implemented by at most 2030 in events dubbed The Great Reset (formerly known as United Nations Agenda 2030) and possibly the culmination of UN's Kalergi Plan, Tikkan Olam and its planned enslavement of Amalek (You!), and the next stage of Operation Lockstep (covid30?) which will be the real deal and actually lethal where all "anti-vaxxers" will be herded into the FEMA deathcamps (YOUR name is on a FEMA coffin, right now!), which will be the event horizon from which we may never escape technocrat-oligarchy and neo-feudalist medical tyranny where "you will own nothing and you will be happy" and worldwide human population will be artificially capped at half a billion as per the old Georgia Guidestones.

The Fourth Industrial Revolution and The Great Reset are right around the corner, just over the horizon, and you suckers don't have a clue. There's a sucker born every minute – guess who? You! Yes, it's true! Never give a sucker an even break! Perhaps Noah Yuval Harari, Larry Fink, Bill Gates, and Jacob Rothschild are right in naming us poor people "useless eaters" because we're too frightened to name (((them))).

You all have the power to stop it RIGHT NOW – the pain of a revolution isn't nearly as bad as the hell we will get for continuing to obliviously keep sitting in the boiling pot – you all could terminate the coming globalist-technocracy RIGHT NOW in the wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Some anarchist paranoid schizo came to our org two weeks ago and I listened to them ramble for ten minutes, politely nodding and humoring them just to see if there was anything important buried in their pseudoanalysis. There wasn't.

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>>2578712
you're retarded and shouldn't be humored

>if you ignore me and call me a schizo I win
gg no re

OP is right. I work for FEMA and we're totes going to round up and gas antivaxxers. The average user of this site has nothing to worry about, though. Only chuds are going to be culled.
Viva Obamunism!

>>2578712
they didnt care at palestine so the world will burn may they wake up and fight the evildoers or may they suffer the same fate they tolerated when it happened to palestine, indeed we are only the test population for them and it will be repeated worldwide by the international bankers, western leftists are delusional thinking they will stop after us do they not see how they have hijacked the banks worldwide? using their finances to influence politicians and laws? theres capitalists worldwide collaborating but the ones doing the steering are the zionists are they blind to that? if so may they feel it soon so maybe then they wake up



 

Living in an housing complex with 20 people and 2 showers, a sense of control is needed, if there was 30 showers, there would be no control needed.

Abundance and public ownership would create less of a need for police. I get that, but really I can't see the abolition of police because some guy will get always get drunk and do stupid shit
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>people will be hecking gooderino if we give them more stuff

Naive as fuck

police is the only thing I agree with MLoids with


Citizen militias brutalize and kill people just like cops do. The CHAZ disaster comes to mind.

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>muh cops
Cops are just the enforcers of the ruling class, if the ruling class is the bourgeoisie they represent their interests against ours, if the ruling class is the proletariat they'll represent our interests, being concerned about the police as an essentially negative thing is libshit. The American police force is particularly bad and militarized however, being something like the third or fourth largest army in the world



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