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For fellow Marxist apostates: what made you turn away from Marxism?

I had abandoned Marx and Lenin when I had realised their theory is based on a massive hypocricy: if you are do not treat members of the upper classes as human beings but as machines programmed to optimise their economic interests, you are a doing le based materialst analysis and are epically owning moralists and idealists, but if you are do not treat members of the lower classes as human beings but as machines programmed to optimise their economic interests, you are an evil fascist, eugenicist, and social darwinist (and sometimes racist). Realising that, I ditched ML and jumped on the technocratic communism team.
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Marxism is a window into a different intellectual age when materialism could still be held by serious commentators as unifying paradigm for the social and political sciences. No doubt there are still materialists floating around, eagerly jotting down their thoughts for submission to the New Left Review, but as time and events go onward its explanatory power becomes less and less. Marxism's chief problem is also its virtue. Its globe scope, its lack of intellectual parochialism, its ambition and its attempt to explain the long sweep of history in a genuinely systematic way. Marxists simply reduce global cultural relations and processes into "modes of production" rather than melding cultural aspects more effectively with political economy. I do not find this economic determinism persuasive: ideology and culture cannot simply be reduced to veneers covering particular modes of production. That being said, nearly all modern social theory can be thought of as a conversation with Marx.

So what am I now? Marxian? Anarchist? Do these labels even matter?

>what made you turn away from Marxism?
Meth.

>>2453691
Mistakes into miracles.

>>2438942
>For fellow Marxist apostates: what made you turn away from Marxism?
What is certain is that I myself am not a Marxist.

Marx lacks path depedency



 

>RABAT, Morocco (AP) — A Moroccan court sentenced a prominent feminist activist to two and a half years in prison and $5,000 in fines for blasphemy in a case that has alarmed human rights groups and drawn widespread attention.

>The presiding judge ruled late Wednesday night that Ibtissam Lachgar was guilty of violating part of Morocco’s criminal code that outlaws offending the monarchy or Islam because of messages on a T-shirt she wore in a selfie posted online, her attorney Naïma El Guellaf told The Associated Press. Lachgar was charged with blasphemy and with disseminating the image online.


>One of the attorneys told AP they plan to appeal the conviction.


>“Not only is this verdict unjust, but it also threatens the freedom of speech and opinion,″ Hamid Sikouk of the Moroccan Association of Human Rights told the AP.


>At Wednesday’s hearing, Lachgar, wearing a headscarf and appearing fatigued, told the judge she had no intention of offending Islam. She argued that the T-shirt she wore reflected a political message and bore a slogan long used against sexist ideologies and violence toward women.


>Her defense team argued that the online post did not constitute an offense to Islam.


>“God is not only for Muslims, but also for Christians and Jews. I don’t see any offense to Islam in that publication,” lawyer El Guellaf told the court. ‘’I am Muslim myself, and I don’t feel offended by it.’'


>Another attorney, Souad Brahma, head of the Moroccan Association of Human Rights, warned of a backslide in human rights in the kingdom and said her client was speaking about religions in general, not Islam.

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>>2464821
so homosexuality should be illegal?

>>2464821
Sexual minority status isn’t correlated to class

>>2464389
Only 2.5? Truly the ᛋᛋultan is a progreᛋᛋive fellow

We need to start smuggling copious amounts of pornography into Morocco, only then will the material conditions improve.

>>2464726
Neither canaries with mines, but currently they're a good signal



 

What material conditions explain the rise of anti-intellectualism, not just on the right but also on the left?

I’m alarmed by all the posts and comments I see on social media — as well as in real life — which denigrate intelligence. I would expect this from the right, given that right-wingers and fascists despise smart people and make a whole show of privileging emotion over intelligent investigation, but it’s been showing up heavily on the left as well.

For instance, I’ve seen “leftists” say things like: “compassion is more important than intelligence, I’d rather be stupid and compassionate than smart and mean” (which conveniently neglects the fact that you can’t be compassionate without having intellect first). Or the usual: “I DON’T NEED THEORY, ALL I NEED IS FEELS” (which again, how do you understand the deeper meaning of your emotions without intellect?). This shit is getting so out-of-hand that I even see “leftists” glorifying metal retardation as something wholesome. Why? Since when did we become like the right?

Anyway, I’m curious as to know what exactly birthed this. Right-wingers hate intellectuals, professors, doctors, and whatnot. Leftists do not. Leftists always prioritize education, critical thinking, creativity, the ability to grasp abstract concepts, and intelligence. What good is it to prop up stupidity as a virtue?
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>>2465679
>marxism is a science
explain how.

>>2465189
>and ShitLibs decided intelligent people were the enemy.
This is like a fucking parody, but knowing liberals it's expected.

>>2465698
literally because I say so and now you are now a scientist two steps away from a nobel prize or something equivalent physicist

Thinking is for faggots

Liberals are allergic to intellect and moving beyond what exists, so of course they get triggered when things get worse.



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What chvds think is happening
>People besides chvds start to get treated like humans
>society degenerates and falls apart as a result of people besides chvds getting treated like humans

What actually happens
<People besides chvds start to get treated like humans
<Chvds crash out and destroy society in an effort to RETVRN
<declare afterwards that society was destroyed by "mvh degeneracy"

>>2465625
Create good. Create great stuff. Don't waste time on fighting. Create with what we have. Don't bother agitating. I told everyone here the best long term winning move.



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What are the most controversial subjects among socialists still discussed today? And why does the answer to those subjects matter? Is there a way to resolve those discussions?
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>Is China socialist

>Is revolution possible in the imperial core?

>>2464768
>Is revolution possible in the imperial core?
I used to think yes, but the more I see of US """communist""" parties, from the PSL to the ACP, the more I think otherwise. The ACP has openly admitted that Americans don't have blue collar skills because they've all been outsourced to the Third World.

>>2464015
>three sentence long OP
>CANT READ past the first sentence
Not beating the booklet allegations.

The majority of the united states is internally colonized.

>>2465626
Funny how the botom guy then agrees with one of the three to cope



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THE IDEAL WINNING 2028 DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM

As a supporter of the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism, I obviously realize that the Democrats are a Controlled Opposition Party who exist to keep the Workers and Oppressed Nations/Internal Colonies of Naw Afrika, Aztlan, the First Nations, inside the U$ corralled and controlled, while the dominant ruling Crypto-Fascist Christian Zionist Nationalist MAGAtard Republicans transform the U$ into a Full-Blown Fascist Police State, which combined with the fact that the U$ is a Prison house of Nations, which treats the Black/New Afrikan, Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo, and First Nations/Native American population like they are not U$ citizens (Trump ending birthright citizenship will probably transform this from a De facto to a De jure reality by officially stripping citizenship from most of these populations), with them essentially acting as a permanent domestic underclass with essentially no rights that are exploited for cheap labor and disproportionately suffer from Mass incarceration and police brutality, with their neighborhoods essentially under De facto occupation by militarized police, as New Afrika, Aztlan, and the First Nations, are Internal Colonies/Oppressed Nations inside of the U$, and their National Liberation should be the number one goal of U$ Communists as stipulated by Lenin’s principle of Self-Determination for all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR, which will happen once World War III escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR (all of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are pictured in the map I posted, with the former U$ Balkanized into a New African SSR that includes the Black/New Afrikan majority counties of the Black Belt, a Hispano-American SFSR that includes the Hispanic/Chicano/Mestizo majority counties in the U$ Southwest, along with the rest of the Spanish-speaking Multiracial regions of the Americas, while the White Settler majority regions in the rest of the former U$ becomes part of the Anglo-American SFSR, which also includes the English-speaking provinces of Canada, as Quebec will become its own SSR, with all the Native American reservations becoming ASSRs) to Place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

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>>2464945
I gotta ask you, will your platform include legal protections for pornography and abolish the fascist ID laws that many bourgeois countries are pushing right now?

>>2464950
Though I am personally not a fan of it, Porn should be completely Legal as long as it is between Consenting Adults, and I am opposed to all age verification laws, due to their obvious potential to be used to suppress Leftist websites like this, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️! On a related note, what is the plan for Leftypol once the Social Media Age Verification Laws take effect Nationwide, as the California law is set to take effect in 2027, and I think Mississippi has already put it in effect, I know most here use VPNs, but what happens when those inevitably get shutdown as well, 🤔?

King Lear, what kind of Marxist-Leninist-Maoism do you adhere to?
Regular MLMism?
Maoisn-Third Worldism? New Democracy? Naxalism?
Marxism-Leninism-Maoism-Gonzalo Thought? Marxism-Leninism-Maoism-Prachanda Path?

>>2464987
Don't forget Marxism-Leninism-Maoism primarily Maoism (MLMpM). Lear says he is MLM however he actually adheres to liberalism.

>>2464987
>>2465227
I uphold the Naxalite/Sisonite variety of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, that is represented by the CPI (Maoist) and the CPP-NPA-NDF, who are currently waging Maoist PPWs in India and the Philippines, due to the fact that though I sympathize with the Gonzaloites and support the ongoing Maoist PPW being waged by the Shining Path, I strongly disagree with their adventurist stance that Maoist PPW is currently viable in the Material Conditions of the Imperial Core, as I believe that while Maoist PPW is currently viable in the Material Conditions of the Periphery/Semi-Periphery (as proven by the ongoing Maoist PPWs in India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Peru), Maoist PPW will not be viable in the Material Conditions of the Imperial Core, until either World War III breaks out and/or Liberal Bourgeois Democracy is permanently suspended, with these two events being related and probably happening around the same time, so this means that Maoists should critically support Social Democracy in the Imperial Core while the Material Conditions do not permit for anything else, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!



 

During Karl Marx's life, Germany was the supreme industrial superpower of the world and Marx had no reason to believe that this would ever change. He assumed that Germany would continue to be the center of all technological and social progress in the world and that the rapid technological development of the Industrial Revolution would continue and German society would soon become a post-scarcity society where technology has eliminated all inequality and automated all labor and this society would naturally gravitate towards communism as things like class and money become irrelevant, and religion would also gradually fade from society as the end of the class struggle would theoretically do away with any need for religion's pacifying force to quell the impoverished masses. Obviously, none of these things happened and the events of the 20th century were probably utterly unlike anything Karl Marx could have anticipated, so the man effectively devoted much of his life to laying out the groundwork for a society that would never be. When it comes to Marx, what is really most relevant about his work for people in the real world today is the fundamental stuff about workers seizing the means of production; all of his theories about what kind of society would be built after the revolution are just pure academic conjecture from a 19th century German academic with a very 19th century German view of the world.

This is why east germany remains the single greatest historical example of socialism.

>>2465315
>all of his theories about what kind of society would be built after the revolution are just pure academic conjecture from a 19th century German academic with a very 19th century German view of the world
All that text to just say you haven't read Marx. Marx himself explicitly shot down any attempts at figuring out what a hypothetical communism would look like beyond the most basic universal shit.

Whatever kind of society Karl Marx had in mind was never going to happen. The rapid industrial development Marx witnessed during his lifetime would taper off after the mid-20th century, technology would not progress to the point where classless society would become possible; instead the forces of industrial capitalism would come to dominate and rule the entire world and every attempt at Communist revolution would end in failure.

>>2465317
>This is why east germany remains the single greatest historical example of socialism.

>>2465339
Idiotic. It took centuries for the bourgeois to triumph over feudalism.



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I live in rural California not that far from a big city in a very republican area do you think you can convince Republicans maga movement turn to a Maoist revolution, or they still be a bunch of hick
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>>2460670
>people who know nothing about the young patriots, will keep using this image as proof that rightwingers can be easily turned into socialists
grim

>>2461231
>of course the maotard grasps the world in terms of a martketplace of clashing ideas instead of material conditions and believes the "revolution" will look like some jungle guerrilla warfare bullshit lol
I didn't say either of those things, actually. In fact my exact argument was to grasp material conditions (or are the class struggle and class relations to imperialism not material conditions anymore?) in order to understand why groups of people gravitate to certain politics and build strategy and tactics from there, instead of one-sidedly declaring people reactionary or revolutionary and moving on. I then discussed how material conditions (again, class struggle) enhances or weakens the effectiveness of propaganda, providing a framework for understanding this with more depth than "there's a lot of propaganda, therefore it's effective".

I said absolutely nothing about what strategy is required for revolutionary war in the United States. You do not know what Maoism is.

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>>2461297
fucking incredible how the literal /pol/tard posts stay up but the other posts are deleted lol. absolute state of this shithole

>>2460670
>If they are exploited and have nothing to lose
everyone here always forgets that part

>>2462205
You were being a complete and utter dick and got exactly what you deserved.
It's a fucking shame you're allowed back here and not banned on sight to be honest.

>>2461345
I was thinking about their recruitment of Indigenous folk



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its so pathetic when leftoids desperately try to to convince literal /pol/tards to suddenly start caring about (their own idealized vision of) communism jfc. that their arguments are also fucking retarded is just the cherry on top

>>2464423
>stalin did X so communism is about X
midwit

>>2464425
>feudalism is when farms
holy fucking shit bro

>>2464445
>>stalin did X so communism is about X
<the historical expression of Communism has nothing to do with Communism
You are a retard who doesn't understand how Marx understands political movements.

>>2464449
>historical expression of Communism
LMFAO except these daddy figures of yours had their entire basis of support in the peasantry and burgeoning bourgeoisie

>>2464425
>feudalism is when you reject Big Tractor

>Ted Kaczynski, the "Unabomber," was a participant in a CIA-funded psychological experiment at Harvard that was part of the larger Project MKUltra
>Conducted by Harvard psychologist Henry A. Murray from 1959 to 1962, the study subjected undergraduates to psychological abuse and humiliation. The precise influence of these experiments on Kaczynski's later crimes is debated, though many believe it was a contributing factor.
>Kaczynski volunteered for the study, which began during his sophomore year when he was only 16 years old.
>As part of the experiment, Kaczynski and other participants were told to write essays detailing their personal beliefs and philosophy. These essays were then used to subject them to "vehement, sweeping, and personally abusive" attacks from an anonymous, trained interrogator.
>Participants sat under bright lights with electrodes attached to them while their verbal and facial expressions were filmed. Kaczynski spent an estimated 200 hours in these sessions.
>The experiment was funded by the CIA, which ran the unethical Project MKUltra to investigate mind control, psychological torture, and behavior modification. There is no evidence Kaczynski was given LSD or other drugs as part of the Harvard study, unlike other MKUltra experiments.
>Potential psychological damage: Kaczynski was socially awkward and showed signs of mental illness before his time at Harvard. However, the intensely stressful experiments may have aggravated his condition and deepened his resentment of technology and authority.
>Connection to later violence: While many, including his lawyers, have linked the experiments to his future hatred of "mind-control techniques" and violence, Kaczynski himself downplayed its influence. He wrote from prison that his experience with Murray had "no significant effect" on his life.

speaking of Harvard psyops…
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jeffrey-epstein-harvard-summers/



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The forest cover across most of the world has expanded greatly the last several decades. The worst ecological disasters have happened in communist countries and Eastern Bloc Europe, and continue to happen in third world countries where governments exert enormous control over markets. Market oriented societies do the best at protecting their environment.
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>>2464534
>source: I made it the fuck up

>>2463632
>communism is when markets dont fit my bourgeois ideal of freedom or whatever
kill yourself /pol/tard

and of course the thread is leftards saying "ermmm sweetie my epic AES state did some posturing" or w/e

>>2463825
It's all also just forest designed to be cut down later, planted with only a single tree species. All the biodiversity gone.

Alexa, who's the president of Brazil?

>>2464891
>leftards
You are incredibly easy to identify



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