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If Salvador Allende hadn't been toppled in Pinochet's coup, would he have been able to successfully centrally plan Chile's economy using Project Cybersyn? Would its success have ushered in a golden age of cybernetic socialism as other socialist states adopted its model?
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There's this podcast on the subject.
https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/project-cybersyn/

>>2278260
>If Salvador Allende hadn't been toppled in Pinochet's coup
It might not be that far fetched that the CIA did the coup because they were scared shitless of Cybersyn.
>>2278265
Supposedly they just operate the film slide screens on the wall and some indicators in another room to let the support staff do something.
The actual thing was not this conference room, but the system that ran interdependently of it. They had terminals in every major factory to make resource allocation and production targets less bureaucratic.

Honestly could modern AI make cybersyn more viable? I do like the idea.

>>2278327
the dumbest thing he did was disarm the left

>>2280689
It was already viable and current "AI" might make it worse. Cybercyn didn't make decisions it just compiled facts using economic mathematics and it collected data.
The reason why the coup was successful was a lack of militancy of Chilean socialists and a lack of international solidarity.

>>2280932
Yes, but the state of the art in applied AI/Machine Learning would be useful for optimising flows, but beyond that no, Generative AI for example would not add anything of value to the issue at this juncture as far as I know and would cause harm

Things may change in the future, but I wouldn't get excited; the amount of power the compute burns for these models is increasing greenhouse gas emissions despite the renewable energy push

Since they're obviously not going away, I strongly urge all token based models to be distilled into diffusion based models as these have lower compute requirements and hypothetically better intelligence since texts are formed as "thoughts" that diffuse into stability



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>>2280894
treatlerite hands made this

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>>2280921
awful looking. I wonder if it's tasty.
>>2280919
>Do these people really think if daddy says not to do something
>people will listen?
I am here because I listened.




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Thousands march to Israeli Embassy in Athens, calling for end to Gaza genocide
Called by the PAME trade union confederation, one of the country’s biggest unions affiliated with the Greek Communist Party (KKE), the march was participated in by workers, professionals, artisans, and common citizens, as well as some lawmakers of KKE. Carrying Palestinian flags, the protesters chanted slogans expressing strong solidarity with Palestine and condemning Israeli attacks and the blockade of the besieged Palestinian enclave.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250522-thousands-march-to-israeli-embassy-in-athens-calling-for-end-to-gaza-genocide/
https://archive.ph/zQJjl

Lebanon starts process to disarm Palestinian factions in refugee camps
The Lebanese official said that Hamas’ office in Lebanon would be allowed to remain open if it worked only on political and not military matters. There are nearly 500,000 Palestinians registered with UNRWA, the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees, in Lebanon. However, the actual number in the country is believed to be around 200,000, as many have emigrated but remain on UNRWA’s roster.
https://www.newarab.com/news/lebanon-disarms-palestinian-factions-refugee-camps

Israel bombs Gaza aid guards as they are attacked by looters
Armed individuals began attacking the aid trucks to loot the supplies, local media reported. As security forces tried to repel the assailants and safeguard the aid, Israeli warplanes launched strikes in the area. Civilians were also targeted during the intense bombardment. Ambulance crews responding to rescue the wounded and retrieve the bodies of the dead reportedly came under fire as well.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-bomb-gaza-aid-guards-they-are-attacked-looters

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Justice Department agrees to end Biden-era felony case against Boeing
In return, Boeing must pay over $1.1 billion in fines, safety improvements and compensation for families of the people who died in the crashes in October 2018 and March 2019. Those disasters, involving Boeing’s 737 MAX 8 jet, kicked off years of still-unresolved questions from lawmakers and safety experts about the federal government’s oversight of the giant manufacturer and defense contractor. Boeing would have to “admit to conspiracy to obstruct and impede” federal regulators, but DOJ would agree to ask a judge to dismiss the case, the department said in a court filing. The government would have the option of refiling the charges later.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/23/justice-department-abandons-biden-era-felony-charge-against-boeing-00366145
https://archive.ph/mx1oc

DHS Is Getting Ready to Identify Everyone Who Leaves the Country, Expanding Immigration Dragnet
The U.S. government-led crackdown on student protestors against the genocide in the Gaza Strip may be extending to checkpoints with exit controls at land-to-land border crossings. In recent weeks, reports have emerged of plans for new checkpoints near land exits from the U.S., as well as the implementation of programs that use photography and facial recognition technology to identify people attempting to leave the country.
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/border-united-states-canada-student-protestors-security

Trump administration releases people to shelters it threatened to prosecute for aiding migrants
Border shelters, which have long provided lodging, meals and transportation to the nearest bus station or airport, were rattled by a letter from the Federal Emergency Management Agency that raised “significant concerns” about potentially illegal activity and demanded detailed information in a wide-ranging investigation. FEMA suggested shelters may have committed felony offenses against bringing people across the border illegally or traPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

CP of Venezuela, PCV statement on the May 25 regional and parliamentary elections
This Sunday, May 25, regional and parliamentary elections will be held in Venezuela in a profoundly anti-democratic context marked by the absence of electoral guarantees, institutional opacity and a repressive escalation unprecedented in recent history. This new process has been called by a National Electoral Council (CNE) lacking all legitimacy after its direct participation in the cover-up of the results of the presidential elections of July 28, 2024. The electoral maneuver attempted to be imposed this May 25 cannot be disassociated from that inconclusive and fraudulent process that culminated in the unconstitutional and unlawful inauguration of Nicolás Maduro, who has been usurping the Presidency of the Republic since January 10. The CNE, controlled by the leadership of the United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV), has made its hallmark the flagrant violation of the processes established in laws and regulations, as well as the lack of transparency. A few days before the elections, the official schedule has not been published in the Electoral Gazette; the right to freely run for office was not guaranteed either: electoral tickets were eliminated without any explanation and numerous opposition candidates were arbitrarily disqualified. It should be recalled that the Communist Party of Venezuela (PCV), as well as various organizations of different political tendencies, has been subjected to judicial intervention, which has prevented our organization, as well as all the revolutionary and popular forces from presenting the Venezuelan people with an independent electoral option.
http://www.solidnet.org/article/CP-of-Venezuela-PCV-statement-on-the-May-25-regional-and-parliamentary-elections/

Serbia: on the demand for new elections
The students leading the ongoing protests across Serbia recently announced that they are demanding early parliamentary elections, in which the students will propose their own list of candidates. All opposition media outlets loudly reported this statement, and the masses expressed their support out of trust in the students. Some activists have gone as far as to say that anyone who is in favour of bringing down the regPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thanks News Anon

why does cuba allow that subhuman to go around the island making propaganda? jesus, is there a single fucking country with a spine left



 

It's so over comrades.
"In Chhattisgarh, 27 Maoists have been killed in an encounter with security forces in Chhattisgarh today. Top Naxal leader and CPI Maoist general secretary Basav Raju is among those killed. A reward of about one crore rupees was declared for him. Security forces have recovered a large number of weapons and other Maoist material along with the bodies of all the Maoists killed from the spot. A jawan of District Reserve Guard-DRG was martyred in the encounter.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi has expressed pride at the success of country’s security forces for their remarkable success in the operation against Maoists at Chhattisgarh today. In a social media post, Mr Modi said government is committed to eliminating the menace of Maoism and ensuring a life of peace and progress for country’s people.

Our correspondent reports that on receiving intelligence inputs about the presence of a large number of Maoists along with a member of the Central Committee and Polit bureau of Naxalites in the Abujhmad area of Narayanpur district of Chhattisgarh, teams of District Reserve Guard of four districts – Narayanpur, Dantewada, Bijapur and Kondagaon started a joint operation about two days ago. Despite the difficult geographical conditions of this area and many other challenges, the security forces carried forward this decisive operation with full commitment. "
http://m.timesofindia.com/articleshow/121311960.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst(USER WAS BANNED FOR ANOTHER POST)
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>>2279784
In typical chauvinist fashion you have no idea what happened and spout hot air to justify your unprincipled dismissal of actually existing revolution. The fascist Indian state has been pumping troops into Chhattisgarh to root out as many communists as possible regardless of civilian deaths. They're basically going around slaughtering anyone who even breathes at them funny and claiming it as a great victory. This is a coordinated, massive, and brutal military campaign.

>>2279722
What a weird collection of pics op
<Totally not indicate a sex fetish

>>2280383
Fuck off coomer we don’t take kindly to your type round here.

>>2280580
*cooms in ur face*

>>2280350
Katie Sigmond



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Another hard pill to swallow is that you can‘t solve the dilemma of identity politics dividing workers by ignoring identity politics and asking those superstructurally oppressed to also ignore it.

The obvious end result is that they will not see you as an ally in regards to issues that are also imminently relevant to them and, secondly, you will fail to manage the inevitable conflict that unfolds in these identity related social dynamics that are already established by the superstructure and don‘t simply fade away just because you wagged your finger at its existence. You stating that people shouldn‘t care about identity politics is therefore a form of idealist prescriptivism.

You would be able to handle this dilemma better if you actually looked into race & racism, misogyny & the patriarchy, and queerphobia & heteronormativity, which includes looking into the lives of those affected, but many of you are not interested in doing that because you are cis het white males who detest talking about these things for the same reasons as your right wing counterpart.

By blaming it all on the people who are focusing more on identity politics than you‘d like you are covering up your failure as a Marxist to reach and mobilize people.
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>>2280423
That would be a great argument if it was the superstructurally oppressed spontanously dividing themselves opposed to it already being systemically established where the superstructurally privileged are socialized into believing these constructs to be real and acting to discriminate and abuse those oppressed themselves.

>>2280454
No they didn't "spontaneously divide" they were divided in the first place by the ruling classes, they have always tried to make the classes below them fight each other. Feudal kings actively encouraged their vassals to fight each other instead of their sovereign.

>>2245273
CIA-coded thread

>>2280472
No shit.

>>2245273
Thanks, COINTELPRO



 

<The World's Fastest Ukrainian edition.

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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine
https://archive.ph/44B9Q
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https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
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>>2280332
>All the democratic forces are with me
<Who gives a fuck, what about the military and secret police?
Damn Bill, no beating around the bush with that guy

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>>2279211
chat what surgery is this called

>>2280327
>Sidiki was trained by the Ukrainian special services to carry out terrorist activities in Russia
that's campism tho
queue a million copes


>>2279211

Desperate Housewives

Rule Of Dumb

Der Untergang



 

The article is seemingly no longer available, as its source link is dead and it has not been reuploaded on the Quishi journal's site.
Make sure to save and preserve it.

Upholding the Marxist View of the News Media
http://english.qstheory.cn/magazine/201401/201402/t20140208_318982.htm (Dead Link)

by Li Baoshan

From the English Edition of Qiushi Journal Vol.6 No. 1 January 1, 2014
Originally appeared in Qiushi Journal, Chinese edition, No. 16, 2013

Views of the news media pertain to overall views and fundamental opinions with regard to news phenomena and news activities. The Communist Party of China (CPC) believes that news activities should be guided by the Marxist view of the news media. This view is particularly relevant at present. In this article, I would like to present some opinions with regard to some issues of common concern.

Qiushi Journal is the organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China, CPC


"[…] The considerable cost of running a media outlet dictates that only the rich can afford to run a media organization, and only tycoons and large financial groups can afford to run major media organizations. The most powerful Western media organizations, those that play a decisive role in world news, command global broadcasting, and exert an enormous influence on world politics, economy, ideology, and culture, are actually controlled by a small handful of families. The Wall Street Journal, the Fox Broadcasting Company, and The Times all belong to Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp; CBS Broadcasting, Inc., Paramount Television, and MTV belong to Viacom Incorporated, which is controlled by the Redstone family; the world’s largest book publisher, Penguin Random House, Europe’s largest television broadcasting company, the RTL Group, and its largest magazine publishing group, Gruner + Jahr, all belong to the Bertelsmann Company, which is owned by the Mohn family; the New York Times Company, controlled by the Sulzberger family, owns The New York Times and the International Herald Tribune; and the Chandler family has long controlled the Los Angeles Times. In Britain, the Thompson family controls Reuters, one of the world’s four largest news agencies; the Pearson family owns the Financial Times, The Economist, and Pearson PLC, which runs the largest TV network in Europe; and The Guardian has been always controlled by the Scott family. In the U.S., the National Broadcasting Company (NBC) has been bought out by the General Electric CompanyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2279244
The temporary email used to create an archive.org account is tagged as "spam". Unable to upload to archive.org

OP,

the article is archived here: https://archive.is/2lqK2



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https://tass.ru/politika/24009075

Translated to English:

<2025-05-21, 09:29

<St. Petersburg International Legal Forum
<Kobyakov pointed out the violation of the procedure for the dissolution of the USSR in 1991

According to the presidential adviser, if the legal procedure was violated, then legally the Soviet Union exists, as constitutional law experts say.

MOSCOW, May 21. /TASS/. The procedure for dissolving the USSR in 1991 was violated, so the Soviet Union "legally still exists," said Russian presidential adviser Anton Kobyakov at a press conference following the International Legal Forum in St. Petersburg.

"The USSR does exist legally somewhere, as constitutional law experts have been saying for a long time, including in Western countries, in the USA, in France. They say this because the procedure for the so-called dissolution of the USSR was violated. If the Congress of People's Deputies, also known as the Congress of Soviets, created the USSR in 1922, then it should have been dissolved by a decision of the Congress of these same deputies. And if the legal procedure was violated, then it turns out that the USSR legally exists, as constitutional law experts say," Kobyakov said.

According to him, the conclusion of the Belovezh Accords, according to which the USSR was dissolved, looks "completely strange from a legal point of view." "This act was later ratified by the Supreme Soviets of the RSFSR, the Ukrainian SSR, and the BSSR, and this was not within their competence at all. But if the USSR was not dissolved, then logically, from a legal point of view, it turns out that the Ukrainian crisis is an internal process," the presidential adviser noted, adding that "the collapse of the USSR must be given a proper legal assessment in order to understand current events."
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>>2279997
Yeltsin thought that the GDP would soon take off like China’s.

>>2280024
Because?

>>2280000
go back (to the USSR)

>>2280027
le free market or some shit idk
yeltsin was drunk most of the time it probably makes more sense if you're always drunk

>>2280052
Yeah? USSR was capitalist



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The more I read about Judaism and its history and peoples (No, not retarded Naz-Selective picking but their historical identity they really have operated through infiltration of bourgeoisie and monarchical institutions, significantly more so than literally anybody else ever. Can their identity ever really be detached from usury/centralized banking. I think olde Euro Royalty and Judeo-Elites comprise of 90% of the worlds hidden hand forces or whatever you want to call them. This isnt meant to be a Nazi thread but rather a balanced critique of a historically and arguably currently bloodthirsty and exploitative religion. I dont understand why a lot of LEftists consider Judaism a no-go zone, considering it Jewish elites are responsible for a large part of the expansion of capitalism.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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>The more I read about Judaism and its history and peoples… can their identity ever really be detached from usury/centralized banking.

It's always the retards who have read the least about Judaism who say shit like this.

Check this out:

Leviticus 25:35-37
<If any of your fellow Israelites become poor and are unable to support themselves among you, help them as you would a foreigner and stranger, so they can continue to live among you. Do not take interest or any profit from them, but fear your God, so that they may continue to live among you.

You must not lend them money at interest or sell them food at a profit.

Ezekiel 18:10-13

<Suppose he has a violent son, who sheds blood or does any of these other things (though the father has done none of them):

<He eats at the mountain shrines.
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>>2279814
this doesn't apply to subhuman goyim though

>When a non-Jew was involved, Maimonides argues that interest should be charged; indeed, Maimonides argues that it was compulsory to charge interest on loans to non-Jews, but he also suggests that such loans should be restricted to being within narrow limits, to avoid the lender becoming so keen on usury that they practice it against other Jews.

>The Shulchan Aruch, a 16th-century text that was published after the writings of Maimonides, and which is viewed by the majority of Orthodox Judaism as being authoritative, expresses a different view on interest, stating that it is now allowable (when it was written) to lend on interest to non-Jews.[23] This text also records an exemption from the additional rabbinic restrictions for charities, such as orphans or poor-funds. Similarly, it allows the borrowing of money on terms involving interest repayments when a life is in danger.

>>2279814
>Marx, Hitler, and the early Zionists were all atheists and it's clear because their criticisms of Judaism were based on their own imaginations of what they thought Judaism was, rather than strict adherence to the actual rules.
why are you lumping marx in with hitler, liberal?

>>2279814
>lumping in Marx with zionists (and Hitler)
Let me guess, you think he wrote "The Jewish Question."



 

Talking to third worldists as a third world prole is genuinely one of the most dehumanizing things a person can experience.

Imagine being reduced to a caricature and getting relentlessly slandered for not actually fitting in into that image. Our whole struggle as workers gets discarded offhand in the name of "critical support". Our martyrs mocked, our exploitation and bloodshed ridiculed. All of this so leftists could satisfy their idealism and perceived moral superiority in relation to their more honest rightist brothers. I genuinely look forward to wiping that grin off of their face when workers overthrow the bourgeois regimes they worship so much.

Edward Said could've wrote such a great scientific thesis on this question instead of being an orientalist himself by criticizing Marx and painting society as one classless monolith with vague national characteristics and no internal contradictions.
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>>2279707
On one habd nuclear is supported by the fossil fuel sector as a delaying tactic against renewables. Nuclear is the most expensive, technologically demanding source of electricity so if the money goes to this you have reactors that will take 20 years to build instead of renewables now.
On the other hand it's a way of making other countries dependant and tied up on super long projects as on this instance rosatom would own all the supply line as this technology is just so far out of reach for BF.

With their poor development and lack of education nevermind the insecurity nuclear is a terrible choice for Burkina, they should just go all in for solar

>>2279727
Yeah I'm sure. The oil industry wasn't de jure privatized because it was too unpopular of a move and would've bankrupted the country from the get go. Instead its extraction, exploration and construction rights were handed to private firms including Chinese ones. To this day it's still de jure state owned and nowhere in the articles you linked it says otherwise. Of course it makes no practical difference as foreign monopolies still dominant the oil industry but it exposes your pathetic apologism.

>>2279737
so Bremer didn't nationalize the oil?

>>2279731
>the fossil fuel industry supports nuclear bro
retarded greenfag delusion

>>2279731
>With their poor development and lack of education
>>2279703
>a framework for interaction covering education and training
>links between educational institutions
>training of teachers and student exchange programmes
>to further develop infrastructure
>develop laboratory infrastructure, and train specialists

>rosatom would own all the supply line

you know they have their own uranium?
>go all in for solar
solar only lasts a couple decades and you have to replace them. do you think they have the supply lines for that??



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