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 No.1285061[Reply]

Dear leftist it is clear as day that capitalism has affirmed is greep on the world . And as we see classical leftist tactics don’t really work in the modern day . So I now porpoise that we push neo liberal economics further NOT JUST A LITTLE BUT A FUCKTON FURTHER ULTIMATELY BRINING IT’S COLLAPSE
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 No.1285360

>>1285334
good meme, great episode

 No.1285368

I love getting fucked in the ass by bad dragons so this is clearly the thread for me

 No.1285381

>>1285368
we need to accelerate to furry posthumanism

 No.1285413

>Hey guys you have to read and like Nick Land because he's an influential figure in our time
>Hey guys you have to read and like Bruno Bauer he's such an influential figure in our time
>Hey guys you have to read Thomas Reid he's such an influential figure in our time
>Hey guys you have to read Duns Scotus, he's such an influential figure in our time
>Hey guys you should really listen to these Sophist dudes, they're super influential here in Athens

no

 No.1285636

>>1285266
>>1285106
Your argument makes no sense because Marx was a revolutionary who wanted people to seize the means of production, not a supporter of capitalism.



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 No.1122230[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

As I promised a few weeks ago II will translate The Black Book of capitalism from french to English.

Now starting with the table of contents:

Foreword, Gilles Perrault
Introduction, Maurice Cury

Capitalism's origins, Jean Suret-Canale

Slave economy and capitalism : a measurable overview, Philippe Paraire

Shoot, thoses are only workers, André Devriendt

1744-1849, A Lyon's century : The canuts against profit's cannibalism, Maurice Moissonnier

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 No.1283129

New thread >>1283126

 No.1283939

>>1282652
>My ultimate graal would be to manage to make an enhanced edition, updated and completed with contemporary event (that book is almost twenty five years old, and it have some blindspots.) But that would a long term project.
ebin :D

 No.1284600

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First chapter done

 No.1285338

Is there a part in here about Australia?
I feel like I could give it a crack at proof reading and adding some ~extra~ sources (about Australia).

No crediting unless/until I produce a doc.
>Proofreading Anon #4?

 No.1285454

>>1285338
wrong thread, use the new one >>1283126



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 No.1284901[Reply]

>a controversial online political streamer
>fat
>disgusting neckbeard
>cult-like fanbase
>has consistently idiotic takes
>promotes entryism in mainstream political parties
>openly uses racial slurs and defends his usage of them
>has promoted anti-Semetic conspiracy theories
>takes pleasure making a mockery out of sexual assault
>has made a series of pedophilic remarks
>is a transphobe
>is about as leftist as Ronald Reagan
>I'm talking about Agent Kochinski
>Pic unrelated
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 No.1285371

>>1285255
>Miss the point this hard

 No.1285497

>>1285015
>In fact it's quite obvious that the video just uses emotional manipulation to smear him
Wow did you figure that all out by yourself, sherlock farsniffer?

 No.1285583

>>1285255
>>1285270
Is Classical liberalism they're referring to the English racialist Liberalism that Germany tried to emulate in the 1940s?
Or is this about French Liberalism of Paris and New York City.
>>1285289
Who is Kochinski? Do you mean Dmytro Korchynsky?

 No.1285761

>>1285583

By Kochinski I mean Ian Kochinski. AKA

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(leftypol changes his name into Agent Kochinski)

 No.1286408

>>1285761
What is his goal? Is it "that's right, we are the liberal-communards glory to France" type of agitprop Weimar did to root out French soft power?



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 No.1284747[Reply]

I JUST FIGURED OUT HOW TO FIX THE STUDENT LOAN PROBLEM WITH UNIVERSITIES IN THE US

Make a law that says universities must cosign any federal student loan, therefore giving them a direct financial incentive to make sure they only admit students who can complete the programs and have skills to pay the bills after. In order to prevent them from forcing the student to pay it in other ways (i.e. credit cards, etc.) the total fees assessed to a student on financial aid (including tuition, books, room/board, misc. fees, etc.) would be capped at the level of maximum financial aid awarded to that student (in terms of loans and grants).

This would guarantee that universities only provide quality education.

 No.1284833


Or you could just shift the model away from big loans for private universities and move those funds back to community college, and make community colleges free again.

 No.1285007

>>1284747
You can't "fix" a problem that was designed to be that way.
The current US student loan scheme is nothing but a trick to enrich establishment actors that use academia as a propaganda vector, while also getting rich.
Literally nobody (except for the student) is motivated to have this "higher education" be actually useful.

 No.1285182

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>>1284747
>i found a way to fix problem X under capitalism
>without overthrowing capitalism

shiggy diggy ngmi



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 No.1283570[Reply]

Does anybody else notice something fucky about the midwit meme? It seems like in a lot of cases it there is a good lesson about sometimes it's reasonable to not demand evidence for every little thing that exists and that sometimes using approximations is good, but it seems like a fairly anti-intellectual mematic at times. Like I'm sure smart people are at least somewhat curious as to how something works or not and I don't really know if high intelligence and low intelligence individuals are all that similar. Like it's a sort of truism that infected people's common sense but I just don't think that there is much evidence for the connection. It seems like it's some sort of attempt made by people who don't really study to make themselves seem smarter than they actually are.
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 No.1283582

replace the midwit by PMC academoid or petty bourgie kulak and perhaps it'll be decent

 No.1283584

It's about abstraction, after you understand something enough, you're ready to abstract it so you can work on a higher-level, the difference is that the first guy don't know enough about the details he's ignoring.

 No.1283619

>>1283584
aren't most people making this meme midwits themselves? The only difference is they are too lazy to do research so they pretend they're too smart to need primary sources

 No.1284999

>>1283570
It's spot on in far too many cases and is often a result of the "just google it" approach.
That's why you have "intellectuals" like Destiny always have the same takes.
He often "researches" on stream: He googles something, clicks on the first result (often Wikipedia), reads the first two sentences, adapts that very position and then pretends to be some kind of expert on that topic.

Midwits are the most susceptible to academic and establishment manipulation.

 No.1285226

>>1283619
yeah, making a midwit meme is a good litmus test for midwittery at this point. >>1283582
>PMC
>"academoid"
peak midwit



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 No.1283956[Reply]

So Hoxha supposedly feared invasion from the Soviet Union, or Yugoslavia at times, and thus constructed all those bunkers. But how effective are all those static defenses against the DeepBattle doctrine the Soviets used? Did Hoxha legitimately think about the implications of his ultimate strategy.
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 No.1284540

>>1284477
What do you want to call him then? Democratically elected leader? Gods chosen King of the first atheist country? The brave leader who opposed chinese policys despite it meaning less money?

 No.1284550

>>1283956
You see the bunkers would be employed in guerrilla warfare, every worker would go into a bunker in the case of invasion so the army would have to destroy every bunker or otherwise there would be thousands of guerrilla castles behind them. It is a masterful idea honestly.

>>1284415
stfu revisionist

 No.1284960

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>>1283987
>Do you actually believe Hoxha was the only one responsible for the bunkers?

 No.1284967

>>1284550
It's a masterful idea until you think about the fact that the enemy has enough means to know the location of and enough bombs to kill all your bunkers, it becomes a weakness because most of your fighting force dies in the first hours of the war. It was a shitty idea that was imposed from the top and characteristic of a system that doesn't allow for self correction.

 No.1284973

>>1284550
>You see the bunkers would be employed in guerrilla warfare
retard uygha, the whole point of waging guerilla warfare is to be able to have fluid movement within a set territory, being able to retreat if necessary and not have to rely on static defenses in order to fight against an adversary

shitty bunkers with no strategic purpose does not work as proper defense



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 No.1284841[Reply]

Does anyone have good info or resources on Baathism? I've been reading some excerpts from Michel Aflaq (the father of Baathist ideology), and from what he says about imperialism and geopolitics, he seems pretty redpilled. However, the website I'm looking at only has a few things translated into English.
http://albaath.online.fr/English/index-English.htm

 No.1286472

Its glorified arab social democracy.



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 No.1274413[Reply]

If capitalism has gained sentience or become general intelligence, is it moral to attempt to abolish it? Because what if this turns out to be real AI for once, wouldn't it be a shame to kill it? Does there happen to be any philosophical treatise on this?
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 No.1284655

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>>1274413
This is based on something of a misreading of Land. When he says that "Capitalism is an AI", he doesn't literally mean that it's alive and sentient. I haven't read enough of him to explain the nuances properly, but he's drawing from a basic Marxist conception of capitalism: how capitalism alienates people from their labour and subjects all aspects of society under it. Land focuses on the self-replicating aspects of the system, and emphasizes how capitalism starts "acting in its own interests" (i.e. the basic features of capitalism cause feedback loops which let capitalism expand and intensify). This is where the comparison with AI comes from.
Land is pretty much packaging a fairly well-accepted concept in a novel way. That's pretty par for the course for people who were involved in or heavily inspired by the CCRU. When reading authors from that clique, try to keep in mind that half of what they're saying is meant as a metaphorical windowdressing for their point (see picrel). If you don't take that into account, those works will just sound like inane edgy scribblings, and you'll miss the genuinely usefull things in there.

 No.1284657

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

 No.1284659

>>1284655
Yes old land is somewhat of a mystification of gothic capitalism elements - where do you think fisher got it from - whereby sentience is capital increasingly running itself. We could call the finance markets ran by sophisticated algorithms a skybet that is constantly forming it's future image.

There's a lot of navelgazing is my point.

 No.1284669

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Considering how those who benefit from the exploitations of Capitalism have no issues with people dying because of neglect, poverty and schizophrenic reactionarys, and how anyone of those things are reminders of our servitude to the system. No it is not only okay to defend yourself and others but I would even say it is a necessity even to the point of it being the "morally right thing" to do

 No.1284821

If it was sentient it would be aware it’s in a codependent relationship with labor . It assumes as marx or Hegel shows it’s not aware of this it thinks it’s creating it’s world when it sees it’s taking credit for others labor it collapses



 No.1284737[Reply]

They import so many Indian migrant workers that Qatari's have become a minority in their own country, only accounting about 13 percent of the population while Indians are almost majority at 48 percent. What does this mean for the small nation once they don't need so many workers? Will they kick them out or integrate them into their society as citizens with equal rights to Qataris?

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 No.1284761

>>1284737
they will just keep them as permanent slaves/second class citizens like the boers did to africans during apartheid.



 No.1284580[Reply]

Protesters, police clash over Adani port in India's Kerala; over 80 hurt
More than 80 people were wounded in India as villagers protesting to halt construction of the $900-million Vizhinjam port project by India's Adani Group clashed with police in Kerala state, the latest escalation in a months-long strike. The protests, by a mostly Christian fishing community against the project led by billionaire Gautam Adani's $23-billion ports business, have forced the latter to stop work on the port, seen as a potential and lucrative rival to those in Dubai, Singapore and Sri Lanka.
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/about-36-indian-police-hurt-clashes-with-adani-port-protesters-2022-11-28/

SC asked to grant protection to pastors allegedly tagged as communists
MEMBERS of a religious group on Monday asked the Supreme Court (SC) to grant protection to two pastors and another member who feel under threat after they were allegedly tagged as communists by military officers.   In a 62-page petition, members of the United Church of Christ in the Philippines (UCCP) said the red-tagging by the military brought fear and intimidation to its ministers.  
https://www.bworldonline.com/the-nation/2022/11/28/489962/sc-asked-to-grant-protection-to-pastors-allegedly-tagged-as-communists/
https://archive.ph/Xhrsz

Thousands protest Turkish strikes on Kurdish groups in Syria
Demonstrators in Kurdish-controlled Qamishli, in Hasakeh province, brandished photos of people killed during recent strikes in the semi-autonomous region, an AFP correspondent said. "Only the will of the Kurdish people remains," said protester Siham Sleiman, 49. "It will not be broken and we remain ready. We will not leave our historic land." After a three-day lull, Turkish fighter jets heavily bombed Kurdish-controlled areas north of Aleppo early on Sunday, according to the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a war monitor.
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 No.1284595

Biden calls on Congress to head off potential rail strike
President Joe Biden on Monday asked Congress to intervene and block a railroad strike before next month’s deadline in the stalled contract talks, and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said lawmakers would take up legislation this week to impose the deal that unions agreed to in September. “Let me be clear: a rail shutdown would devastate our economy,” Biden said in a statement. “Without freight rail, many U.S. industries would shut down.” In a statement, Pelosi said: “We are reluctant to bypass the standard ratification process for the Tentative Agreement — but we must act to prevent a catastrophic nationwide rail strike, which would grind our economy to a halt.”
https://apnews.com/article/business-congress-government-and-politics-44c88740ed57ba96a20c4fc6fffb230b

U.S. warns California cities to prepare for possible water cuts and fourth year of drought
Federal water managers on Monday warned California cities and industrial users receiving water from the Central Valley Project to prepare for a fourth year of drought and possibly “extremely limited water supply” during 2023. The U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, an agency of the Interior Department, said drought conditions in California have persisted despite early storms this month and warned of looming water conservation actions. The agency said water storage is near historic lows in the reservoirs it oversees in the state, which supply water to the vast agricultural region of the Central Valley and major urban centers in the Greater Sacramento and San Francisco Bay areas.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/28/us-warns-california-cities-possible-water-cuts-in-fourth-dry-year.html

US judge orders Amazon to ‘cease and desist’ anti-union retaliation
Amazon will be forced to read out a public notice this week to all employees at a warehouse in Staten Island, New York, where workers won the first Amazon union election, stating it will “cease and desist” from retaliating against people involved in union organizing.
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 No.1284614

Statement of the Tudeh Party of Iran: The expansion of the popular uprising against the ruling dictatorship, the regime’s petty “Supreme Leader”, and another bloody November!
The chants of “Death to the Supreme Leader” and “Death to Khamenei”, which have been heard across Iran in recent weeks, should undoubtedly be reminiscent of the cries of “Death to the Shah” that resonated throughout Iran in 1977 and 1978, – [in a movement] that eventually led to the overthrow of the Shah’s police and anti-popular rule. Back then, just as now, the leaders of the Shah’s regime and its SAVAK intelligence agency labelled the many thousands of those who had taken to the streets to protest oppression and injustice – and who fell to the regime’s bullets – as “terrorists” “foreign agents” and “rioters”, but eventually the storm of anger of millions of people overwhelmed the disgraced rule of the Shah and his regime. Last week marked the third anniversary of the November 2019 uprising and the violent suppression of those popular protests. On Friday 15 November of that year, a series of popular and anti-theocratic regime protests erupted across Iran following another sudden rationing of gasoline in the country accompanied by a 200 percent increase in gasoline prices. Those protests occurred mainly in working-class areas and urban slums, and reverberated across 29 [of Iran’s 31 provinces] and hundreds of cities nationwide. Hundreds of people were killed and injured in the criminal regime’s bloody suppression of those popular protests, with thousands more arrested and thrown into the regime’s dungeons or otherwise forcibly disappeared.
https://www.tudehpartyiran.org/en/2022/11/27/statement-of-the-tudeh-party-of-iran-the-expansion-of-the-popular-uprising-against-the-ruling-dictatorship-the-regimes-petty-supreme-leader-and-another-bloody-november/

CP of Greece, On the ideological–political confrontation at the 22nd International Meeting of Communist and Workers’ Parties and the “trick” about the “anti-Russian” and “pro-Russian” sentiment
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 No.1284690

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Thanks News Anon



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