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It seems to me that we must accelerate the proletarianization of the petty-bourgeoisie in the imperial core. I would identify the social reproduction of capitalism with productive capital, the P-C'-M'-C-P phase of commodity production. It seems to me in analyzing productive capital that the proletariat must intensify consumption. If you are an accelerationist (and accelerationism is sensible in the context of the imperial core) then consumerism is a valuable tactic in the toolbox of the proletariat. We must drive the petty-bourgeosie into debt and evict them. The petty-bourgeoisie will be remolded in the school of the streets, and forged into loyal soldiers of the revolution. Not sure how much sense this makes. I suppose earning money to pay for the prole-ing of the petty-bourgeoisie is still technically centered on workers but it feels wrong. Is there an actual viable form of worker-centered accelerationism?
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>>2331422
>muh great men are the sole responsible people for the inevitable direction of capital relations
you are da greatest communist here thats for sure

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>>2331422
Before the October revolution became possible, things had to get worse, and attempts at reform had to fail. This did not make the reformists and reactionaries communists (which is what your joke seems to imply that others are saying) but it did mean that they accelerated conditions to a breaking point where socialist revolution became feasible.

>>2331196
>We
Thinking trillion dollar corporation’s capital = your own personal capital you command is one hell of a brain worm!

>>2331223
Why do you want capitalism to continue in the “periphery”?

>>2331438

The key is to build up the subjective factor in the form organizations in preparation.



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<disband the movement after Syria fell to zionists
<are supported by USA and Israel
<are calling for Iran to be bombed
<their ideology is a mishmash of liberalism and anarchism
<Kurdish intellectuals are financed by German intelligence agancies and are sent out to sow confusion among the movement
<practice a cult of personality and can't admit that Ocalan is demented
anyone spreading this wicked ideology is no comrade of mine.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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>leader of a group of 1000 people (maybe) said something
>therefore entire ethnic group is evil
kill yourself OP

Csam on the beria, nazi posting and racist fedjacketting today, usaid really was disolved? what is our cheka doing?

>>2330410
>“national sovereignty” (synonym for localized bourgeois domination)
me when i'm a fucking retarded leftcom that makes up words, takes up nonexisting issues with ML and argues with strawmen

>>2330401
Is that Stalin ?

>>2330407
I know this guy is fundamentally moronic, but this is a hilarious statement on the Kurdish ethnicity/nationality (it really isnt either and is highly polycentric). But let's go through this line by line
>A diaspora
Not at all, there is a clear kurdish heimatland in which the plurality of kurds live. They have substantial diasporas in the nation states that occupy this territory (Istanbul having the most kurds of any city in the world) and elsewhere (Britain and Germany in Europe, Japan, Canada as immigrants, and in Khorasan Province and the Caucasus as historical migrant populations). But to call it "a diaspora" is utterly moronic.
>Persians
So they are NOT Persians, if they were they would be considered as such by Persians/Farsi speakers. Kurdish is not farsi, it is related but so is English and German. If it was the Iranian state wouldn't ban the official use of Kurdish (specifically Sorani). There is a nation that speaks Farsi outside of Iran (Tajikistan) which likewise has kurds which are a seperate minority within it.
>Iraqis
Arab Iraqis are Semetic, Kurds are Indo-European. Just not the same group whatsoever. Kurdish Iraqis are obviously not the same as arab iraqis, otherwise we wouldn't distinguish between them.
>Jewhadis
Non-existent slopterm.
>American mercenaries
How the fuck do you think the kurds can pay for american mercenaries? If you are talking about Rojava, it is true "anti-jihadis" went there but most of them pissed off are they were made to read marxist-leninist theory lmao.
>Israeli Soldiers
Literally no documented evidence of this ever. It is worth reminding everyone that during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, it was Kurdish (and Armenian) Marxist-Leninist militants who fought with the PFLP and then trained together. As a result of these conflicts there is a yearly (although cancelled since 2023) festival where Kurdish revolutionaries go to a west bank town under siege to support their mutual efforts towards liberation. (https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2023/0111/Together-they-can-In-Palestinian-village-a-moPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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What's happening now
• Fresh blasts: Iran launched a new barrage at Israel on Sunday evening, with an explosion seen in the coastal city of Haifa. Israel said it began another series of strikes on military targets across Iran amid international pleas for diplomacy and de-escalation.

• Trump rejects assassination plan: Two US officials told CNN the US president rejected a plan by the Israelis to kill Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his spokesperson have denied the reports of such a plan.

• Terrified civilians and rising death tolls: The hostilities have killed at least 224 people in Iran and 14 in Israel, according to local authorities in each country. As Tehran residents flee the capital, Iran’s Ministry of Health said at least 1,481 people had been injured since Israel launched the wave of attacks on Friday.

• ‘Weeks’ to go: Israel’s operation against Iran is expected to take “weeks, not days” and is moving forward with implicit US approval, according to White House and Israeli officials. US President Trump said his country “had nothing to do with” the Israeli attacks but later acknowledged that US involvement in the conflict is a possibility.

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-15-25
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>>2329282
shut the fuck up

>>2328504
Jewish nigger

>>2329282
/pol/dittor Jewish nigger

>>2329346
a general serving the Vladimirputin army
what's so hard to understand ?!

>>2328969
>Will white feathers work in the modern age?
No. Unironically good outcome for blackpill ideology going mainstream with zoomies. Everyone knows soldiers get cucked by draft dodging chads.



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What's happening now
• Fresh blasts: Israel detected more missiles launched from Iran on Sunday evening, with an explosion seen in the coastal city of Haifa, after residential areas of Tehran were hit with multiple strikes. Earlier on Sunday, for the first time, Iran launched a daytime barrage against Israel, but there have been no reports of significant damage.

• Trump rejects assassination plan: A US official told CNN the US president rejected a plan by the Israelis to kill Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. However, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his spokesperson have denied the reports of such a plan, calling them “false” and “fake.”

• Israeli toll mounts: At least 14 are confirmed dead in Israel in the hostilities. Visiting the scene of a strike that killed 4 people, Israel’s PM Netanyahu said “think what would happen if Iran had atomic weapons.” A stated goal of the Israeli operation is to stop Iran developing a nuclear bomb.

• Iranians flee: Some Tehran residents have been escaping north to safer rural areas while others have been stockpiling essentials. The metro system is open around the clock so people can shelter. Scores are reported killed but no official figure has been given.

• No end in sight: Israel’s operation against Iran is expected to take “weeks, not days” and is moving forward with implicit US approval, according to White House and Israeli officials. US President Trump said his country “had nothing to do with” the Israeli attacks but later acknowledged that US involvement in the conflict is a possibility.

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-15-25
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>>2328493
and it being the common liberal narrative its the most common narrative about the history of the pact, repeated by liberal adjecent individuals.

>>2327679
You mean trotskyist L

>>2328435
a person can be a communist without being working class (Engels for the most obivous example) and a person can be a worker without being communist.
>>2328429
living in a settler-colony has nothing to do with whether you're a reserveless wage worker or not; worker is not an ethical category it's an economic category

>The Israeli military said in a statement early on Monday morning that it was striking missile sites in central Iran.




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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
<Texas Instruments Edition

Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the pharaoh of proxy wars, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka

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🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
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>>2328259
>genuine change and reversal of neoliberal policies
libslop

>>2328226
George Floyd protests were a rally.


>>2328222
Cool chicken walker

>>2325165
>brown people are genetically inferior and therefore prefer socialism
so this is the power of QAnon believers



 

🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
<Imperial Parade Edition

Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the pharaoh of proxy wars, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka

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🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
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when is this stupid march

>>2323149
that a child

The parade and march will be live here
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/Happenings

>>2323965
If you mean the protests all day
If you mean the parade, 90 minutes from now.

>>2321878
What you expect from a group of people who desperately want to appease white racists? They are a lost cause.



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Grand Rabbi of Brazil Edition

Israel attacked Iran in an aggressive act of war. The US government supported the strikes, providing intelligence and planning with Netanyahu. Donald Trump cynically used nuclear negotiations with Tehran as cover, as he oversaw the joint US-Israeli operation.

fizzle or sizzle the floor is yours gentlepersons
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>>2327592
<Deter him with a loud scolding as he steals my stuff
Hundreds of ballistic missiles is not a "loud scolding" you retard, it's a proportionate retaliation. If Israel's goal is to destroy Iran's nuclear program and they stop bombing without having achieved this then they will have been defeated.

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NEW THREAD

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NEW THREAD

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>>2327624
nta, but what are you smoking?
it's not a proportionate retaliation.
israel is attacking nuclear infra, killing nuclear scientists, and eliminating high-ranking iranians…AND doing a bombing campaign.
how is a bombing campaign against vague targets a proportionate response?

>>2327520
He will show the FLAG OF WARNING in the next few hours



 

Fascism as an ideology was crushed in WW2 by the Soviet Union and the last remnants of it were subsumed into the Liberal order as Paperclipped Anti-Communists who simply became your typical shitlib neocon hawks in State Departments and NGOs who purely act not on any Fascist ideology, but on Nationalist/intergenerational seethe.
"Fascism is just capitalism in decay" copium response for the need to justify the left calling everything Fascist, no, it wasn't, Fascism was an actual ideology, with actual worldviews, actual philosophy shared by ᴉuᴉlossnW and Hitler that revolved around Social and state organism, rejection of slave morality and return to a "hero" ideal, Blood and soil and Futurism. If the state and ideology does not have these values, it is not Fascist.
>But Franco, But Pinochet.
Not Fascists. Just reactionary right wing capitalists. Franco was a turbo Christcuck, which goes explicity against the core Fascist philosophy and worldview around rejecting slave morality like Christianity.
>But Zionism
Zionism developed before Fascism and along side it, but is it's own retarded 19th century cousin that was born out of 19th century blood and soil Nationalist mindsets.
>But Neo Nazis
Retarded Larpers who don't actually adhere to any Fascist ideals, just have a surface level understanding of Fascists being "racist", rather than Fascist "Racism" actually was a rational and logical position dictated by Social Organism, as "foreign elements" were seen as a sickness to the host organism. If Neo Nazis were actually Fascist, they would also be massive health food and other health/eco nuts, but they are not, because they don't even know about Social Organism at all.
>But Taco Drumpf
Not Fascist, just a retard.
The reality is, that Fascist elements were all just subsumed into the Liberal Capitalist structure, psychotic right wing elements today are not Fascist at all. They are the result of contradictions and class struggle that are unqiue to modern materialist situation.
If we go by literally, what most Leftists call "Fascism" then, literally every state before the rise of Liberal Social Democracy was "Fascist" going back to near the start of history.
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>>2298718
>If Neo Nazis were actually Fascist, they would also be massive health food and other health/eco nuts, but they are not, because they don't even know about Social Organism at all
uygha do you pay attention to anything modern fascists do at all?

Another Zigger thread

>>2298718
>If Neo Nazis were actually Fascist, they would also be massive health food and other health/eco nuts, but they are not
OP is a retard and should be banned.

Would be so cool if we actually had threads without fed posters and liberal slopaganda.

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>>2298718
Or maybe everyone has been fascist since WWII.

https://libcom.org/article/historical-cycle-political-rule-bourgeoisie-amadeo-bordiga

<"Fascism can be defined from the economic point of view as an attempt on the part of capitalism to control and limit its own development, an attempt whose purpose is to curtail, with centralized discipline, the growth of the most alarming aspects of economic phenomena that threaten to render the system’s contradictions irremediable."


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<"The fascists lost the war; fascism, however, was victorious. Despite the large-scale employment of democratic propaganda, the capitalist world, having preserved, even in this tremendous crisis, the integrity and historical continuity of its powerful state units, will now have to undertake a major effort to dominate the forces that pose a threat to it, and will implement an increasingly more closed system of control over economic processes and of the immobilization of the autonomy of any social or political movement that might threaten to disturb the constituted order. Just as the Legitimist victors over Napoleon had to inherit the social and juridical framework of the new French regime, the victors over the fascists and the Nazis, in a process of greater or lesser duration, and of greater or lesser clarity, will confirm by virtue of their actions, although they will deny this with hollow ideological proclamations, the need to administer the world, which has been so tremendously altered by the second imperialist war, with the authoritarian and totalitarian methods that were first tested in the defeated countries."


https://www.international-communist-party.org/English/Document/69TheOnl.htm

<"It was a great mistake of the Communist International to describe fascism as “reactionary”. Of course, it was reactionary, but only in relation to the proletarian revolution: it was the most pronounced form of bourgeois counterrevolution, and at the same time, bourgeois progress. This became very
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Made In America Edition

Israel's war on Iran was made in USA: Trump supported attacks, while faking peace talks

Israel attacked Iran in an aggressive act of war. The US government supported the strikes, providing intelligence and planning with Netanyahu. Donald Trump cynically used nuclear negotiations with Tehran as cover, as he oversaw the joint US-Israeli operation.

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>0:00 USA supported Israeli attacks
<1:38 Trump's fake "peace talks" with Iran
>3:13 USA provided Israel intelligence
<3:49 Trump gave Israel green light
>5:07 US military helped Israel
<6:01 Marco Rubio's lies
>6:40 Israel: unsinkable US aircraft carrier
<7:15 Netanyahu is an American
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>In Kermanshah, there are reports that two horse-breeding stables were attacked by Israel. According to the initial report that came from the ISNA news agency, 50-60 horses were killed in the Israeli strike.



>>2325534
A lot of our poetry persian, our national anthem is in persian. Pakistan support in iran's war effort sounds great but this could also mean indians seeing some pathetic opportunity to attack us again, then let china get involved and I think we can call it WW3

>>2325524
east berlin voted die Linke



 

On this anniversary of the Bloody Week, something has struck me, how come socialism and more specifically marxism, in its history since its inception, has been so similar to early christian history ?

I mean think about it, a movement that is mostly aimed towards popular, first kind of chaotic but quickly unified by a main theory, this being Marx. The movement born from this (and other writing, arguably stands for other socialist movement, be they formed from Marx' works or completely separate in origin), with the birth of disparate and not always so united communities, which for a good while were usualy persecuted by the established power. With the development of studies surrounding socialism further on, we see the birth of dogmas, notably in the established socialist states like the USSR, where those established theories becomes official policy. Meanwhile in non socialist states, the communities stay either persecuted or at best tolerated. With the variety of movements and ideas, I find it quite close to early christianity and its oh so varied theological takes.

On another note, I do find interesting how much leftist organization do use religious speech patterns in general, with key words carrying their almost self evident meaning, with a common ideal and struggle and so on. The idea came to me as I was thinking about future history, how will, in say 400 years, these leftist communities be studied ? Could a comparison to medieval/early modern jewish communities also be drawn out ?

Any opinion on the matter ? The comparison could probably be expanded. I'm just kind of curious.

>>2277958
Socialism is the sharia law of christianity, kind of like how Taoism and Confucianism are complimentary but simultaneously autonomous from eachother.

lol

>>2277958
Socialism used to care about men. Now it only cares about women, and this is why it will fail. It has been defanged completely because all of the masculine men will pick literally any other side to be on. As long as the "intelligent" socialists don't see this, the deep state capitalists will mop the floor with them.

I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that a true civil revolution has to come from a conservative angle, because it will capture the hearts and minds of men. However, it has to be an actually intelligent idea, which still makes it leftist. Leftist "conservatism" is the way.

>>2277977
What the fuck are you on about. Socialism is an extremely loosened version of Christianity. Christianity without fangs is just "guys, be nice to each other". Socialism is just "we can run the world if we're nice to each other, right?!" There's zero awareness of human nature. That's the power, the fangs. If socialists understood human nature, they would become esoteric conservatives, even though they may not agree with most right wing parties, as they are composed of loud retarded points of view that in no serious way oppose the establishment or the other powers that be, and also offers frail solutions to social issues. Esoteric conservatives understand that things used to work better than liberals believe (ie, not all new ideas are better ideas), but they're also smart enough to know that you can't just apply a single rule from the past without changing a bunch of other things too. To the degree that you even care about the world / politics, is the degree that they would be willing to make comprehensive changes to the world. This obviously has a ton of bias and blindspots, and it is by no means perfect, but this is still the real source of power that whoever comes next must claim.

Ziggerism: the new Islam?



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