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 No.971557[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Tell me about Cuba. I want to learn. I imagine it's just a spanish-speaking North Korea, which i like, but i want to learn the specific details about Cuban life and the economy. I already know that they have free penis enlargement surgery and gender transition surgery. Anybody got infographs or files?


Some useful links:

Government and mass organizations
President and Government: www.presidencia.gob.cu

Ministry of Foreign Affairs: www.minrex.gob.cu

Communist Party of Cuba (PCC): www.pcc.cu

Young Communist League (UJC): www.ujc.cu

Workers’ Central Union or Cuba (CTC): www.cubasindical.cu
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 No.1235794

So why do Westoids act like a state is not socialist if its people don't think about socialism every minute of the day?

 No.1235795

>>1235783
simpussy gets the libussy

 No.1235796

>>1235794
And you don't think about socialism all the time?

 No.1235878

>>1235788
>disgusting to see how much corruption and inequality there is
So there's nothing to envy to the rest of LATAM

 No.1276449

miguel diaz-canel arriving in moscow



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 No.1276383[Reply]

we have mao zeodong songs, xi jinping songs.
lets post some deng xiaoping songs to praise the great reformer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FlE_HHttPc

 No.1276386

Revisionist songs

 No.1276391

Man, FUCK Deng Xiaoping.
Lets listen to some BASED TUNES.

 No.1276396

>oh boy let's celebrate a technocratic hypercapitalist

 No.1276754

Fuck you



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 No.1276274[Reply]

One little-known element of that gap is that the working class resents professionals but admires the rich. Class migrants (white-collar professionals born to blue-collar families) report that “professional people were generally suspect” and that managers are college kids “who don’t know shit about how to do anything but are full of ideas about how I have to do my job,” said Alfred Lubrano in Limbo. Barbara Ehrenreich recalled in 1990 that her blue-collar dad “could not say the word doctor without the virtual prefix quack. Lawyers were shysters…and professors were without exception phonies.” Annette Lareau found tremendous resentment against teachers, who were perceived as condescending and unhelpful. Michèle Lamont, in The Dignity of Working Men, also found resentment of professionals — but not of the rich. “[I] can’t knock anyone for succeeding,” a laborer told her. “There’s a lot of people out there who are wealthy and I’m sure they worked darned hard for every cent they have,” chimed in a receiving clerk. Why the difference? For one thing, most blue-collar workers have little direct contact with the rich outside of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. But professionals order them around every day. The dream is not to become upper-middle-class, with its different food, family, and friendship patterns; the dream is to live in your own class milieu, where you feel comfortable — just with more money. “The main thing is to be independent and give your own orders and not have to take them from anybody else,” a machine operator told Lamont. Owning one’s own business — that’s the goal.

When progressives talk about the working class, typically they mean the poor. But the poor, in the bottom 30% of families, are very different from those who are literally in the middle: the middle 50% of families whose median income was $64,000 in 2008. That is the true “middle class,” and they call themselves either “middle class” or “working class.” A few days’ paid leave ain’t gonna support a family. Neither is minimum wage. Working class men aren’t interested in working at McDonald’s for $15 per hour instead of $9.50. What they want is a steady, stable, full-time jobs that deliver a solid middle-class life to the 75% who don’t have a college degree.

National debates about policing are fueling class tensions today in precisely the same way they did in the 1970s, when college kids derided policemen as “pigs.” This is a recipe for clPost too long. Click here to view the full text.(disingenuous discussion, also idpol)
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 No.1276389

>>1276339
i know "PMC" in non-unionized jobs who make way less than unionized workers. And in any case "PMC" don't own means of production and they still sell their labor (managerial in nature and relatively privileged in the context of their work though it may be) in exchange for a wage. They are having surplus value taken from them, they are proles, and they would benefit from the working class owning the means of production. It is the mode of production, that must be destroyed. The conflict between bourgeois and proletariat is the primary contradiction, not the conflict between proletariat and "PMC."

 No.1276621

>>1276389
Wrong. PMC are petite bourgeois. Income does not matter, their relations to production does. College graduates who become managers at working class jobs are clearly divided from the workers and enforce capitalist culture unapologetically.

 No.1276701

>>1276621
>Wrong. PMC are petite bourgeois. Income does not matter, their relations to production does.

if they don't own MoP they are not petite bourgeois. their relation to the mode of production is still one of selling their labor and their time in exchange for a wage.

At my last job the manager only had a high school education, often did the same work as the rest of us, and mostly just kept things organized. Maybe it's just where I live. I've noticed these days in America there's a glut of "managers" that are really just workers with extra duties. My autistic dad who lives in a trailer and is in his 60s became a "manager" at a grocery store stock crew. They didn't even give him a raise and I asked him why the fuck he took the position if they didn't give him a raise. he said "i don't know" and I told him they were just taking advantage of him.

 No.1277368

>>1276701
>if they don't own MoP they are not petite bourgeois. their relation to the mode of production is still one of selling their labor and their time in exchange for a wage.
this definition is based on Marx’s early humanist work and isn’t scientific
>At my last job the manager only had a high school education, often did the same work as the rest of us,
Nobody is saying that managers are inherently PMC. Identifying PMC as a new class is utilizing bourgeois economics since it is trying to establish a new class based on an arbitrary category. PMC correctly utilized refers to a section of the petite bourgeois who come from educated and professional backgrounds. This is a very common occurrence within working class jobs where college graduates and professionals will be funneled In to higher tier jobs while workers remain at the bottom and have a steeper hill to climb to higher positions. They are petite bourg because they aspire to be in corporate and their relations/associations is towards higher positions.



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 No.1272107[Reply]

Stalin wasn't perfect—let's admit that the Red Army purge was retarded, lads—but goddamnit was he based for being a dyed-in-the-wool communist who made bourgeosie freeloaders shit their pants with fear. I think that objectively makes him the best ruler of all time. Thoughts?
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 No.1273762

>>1273007
There also was one in 1918-1920. Ironically both sides consider this "not a war", despite having military engagements, forml declaration of war and even signing peace treaty in the end.

There is no english wiki article about the war, but there is one about treaty, funnily enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tartu_(Finland%E2%80%93Russia)

 No.1273767

>>1273007
Then you should specify what war you were asking about (by mentioning ones you know). How the hell anybody suppose to know which one of them you didn't hear about?

 No.1274151

>Accused Arnold, you would try even the greatest patience, the patience of an ox. I am not losing patience yet. You may deny what you said at the preliminary investigation on January 9, and what you said at the preliminary investigation in September, but you will not get away from what you said only five minutes ago.
Everyone should actually read the Trial Transcripts, Vyshinsky is hilarious.

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 No.1276312

>>1276311
this is where we are now



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 No.1275504[Reply]

you know the ones im talking about the ones where they say

-give me a source
-oh your source is crap because it doesnt follow my academic standards
-oh you distrust this source then you must be an irrational idiot

How the fuck do you deal with this type of people
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 No.1276040

>>1275590
But even if the Source is golden they will try it, hell they try to discredit the Soviet archives in total to preserve the cold war narrative, call me Cynical but these days i don't believe it's possible to be honest and expect to go anywhere.

 No.1276050

>>1276040
this ive ecountered neoliberals that will attack and discredit good sources because they cant handle the truth

 No.1276158

>>1276040
Well first of all if they're attacking the primary source like the soviet archives that wtf are they suggesting as an alternative? Sources from the US who weren't anywhere near capable of taking accurate measurements? Seems to me like no matter what you have the more reliable source and may as well stick with it. Second of all if you yourself have doubts over the validity of the source they're attacking then there's likely more compelling evidence you trust giving you motivated reasoning to want to believe that source. Capitalism has an endless supply of evidence of how much harm it's doing to pull from and using that would be more convincing. Let's say they're right and 100 bajillion people were killed by gommunism that was tried in the past. Capitalism is like a cancer with tons of sources suggesting it may even lead to total extinction, allowing it to go unchecked is spitting in the face of all the lives sacrificed trying to save us.

 No.1276170

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>>1275764
>Fucking deng xiaoping
if you actually want a neoliberal fag from the CPC its Zhao Ziyang

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>>1276170
also hu yaobang



 No.1269654[Reply]

I get it, being an active participant in combat as a guerrilla isn’t usual behaviour for anyone but cmon, these organizations are composed at bare minimum hundreds to thousands of volunteers there’s gotta be at least one asshole that knows something as basic as gun safety, or just learning how to prioritize range on the dipshits they’re shooting at, ffs these people can make bombs out of everything and have some of the best understanding the environment around them how tf is that any easier than anything else most ordinary soldiers are trained to do?
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 No.1269704

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just remember that Australia lost a war against emus

 No.1269738

>>1269704
American lose a war against this guy & his special day

 No.1269752

I was the most trained member of the MS-13

 No.1276122

what is this thread referencing? what is the context here?

Any specific event related to the OP?

 No.1276134

>>1269699
The military doesn’t really call for any in-depth skills unless you’re an officer or provide some auxiliary service (logistics, cooking, etc). War is essentially leveraging statistical casualties to help meet certain political goals at the end of the day.



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 No.1276051[Reply]

https://www.geekwire.com/2022/former-seattle-entrepreneur-and-husband-will-get-back-most-of-funds-seized-by-fbi-in-amazon-case/

Hold up. I thought small capitalists were class traitors / petite bourgeoisie scum? Now the FBI is taking their shit?

critical support for the federal bureau of investigation?

 No.1276056

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>>1276051
Um sweaty it's a union:

>Amy Nelson is founder, board member and former CEO of The Riveter in Seattle, a former network of co-working spaces that has evolved into a self-described modern union of women and allies.

 No.1276065

>>1276056
oh shit my lazy ass didn't catch that

It's crazy how fanatically committed the feds are to crushing any thing that helps out ordinary people

 No.1276068

Read Lenin



 No.1275731[Reply]

You cannot present any coherent, concrete evidence to the contrary. 20 thousand Polish officers were murdered by the Soviets in 1940 (and some 150 thousand Polish civilians were also killed in 1937). This is why Poland despises communism and will never side with you. All you can do is seethe and screech that "pooplska deserved it".
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 No.1276756

Occupied countries had fascist collaborators, especially Poland where a lot of them were ethnically German anyway. They deserved to die.

You cant explain away your ideological brainwashing with "they killed our nazi imposed collaborationist puppet government". Otherwise you should hate Germany too.

It's just used by your government to brainwash you while they sell you to deutsche bank. Its been 30 years and somehow communists still het blamed for everything that is going wrong, despite Poland having been pretty rich in communist times.

 No.1276799

>You cannot present any coherent, concrete evidence to the contrary.
The German ammunition used to shoot them

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 No.1294829

Did the USSR not admit to Katyn in 1989?



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 No.1274119[Reply]

Hey leftypol, serious question what can we do to push for more Communist ideals in real life, i feel like that talking philosophy and rambling about economics online non-stop does not really puts communism it in to practice, I'm aware I sound very glowing but that's the truth.

Or at least what ideas could you give out that some of us could try or do?
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 No.1275007

Become a maoist. Maoists are the only ones actually making a change

 No.1275013

>>1274423
What theory? ML does not give an answer to what do in modern conditions.

 No.1275382

>>1275013
For starters understanding dialectical materialism and what causes different modes of producton to come about. This stuff doesn't happen by people just willing it into existence. Meaning convincing everyone you know to believe what you believe doesn't accomplish all that much, especially if you don't have a fully formed picture of the future you'd like to bring about or how to do it. Best way I can see of getting there is learning and improving as much as you can and continuously pushing yourself to your limits. What that means for you in your individual material conditions differs from everyone else and looking for guidance from others who aren't you isn't all that helpful. Basically just be the best you that you think you can be and things will turn out how things will turn out.

 No.1275404

>>1275013
Yes it does, what have you read? Let me guess, nothing

 No.1275790

>>1275382
But productivity is very high. The countries with developed production forces, from revolutionary point, degraded by moving factories to periphery. OK, from Lenin, burgeois in those countries bought prols. But periphery, like Romania where OP is from, does not have a workers movement, why?
Just to show you will not find an naswer in ML books.

If there is an answer, where? What theory? That was my question.

>>1275404
Yeah there might be some hints, but telling someone to read all Lenin and Marx, etc, then study modern conditions on his own and then develop modern revolutionary theory… it looks like you have nothing to say, no?



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 No.1273265[Reply]

On page 912 in "Waiting for Hitler", Stephen Kotkin says
>Jules Humbert-Droz, the Swiss Communist who met Bukharin in early 1929, later claimed that Bukharin mentioned getting rid of Stalin. Humbert-Droz, Memoirs, 356, 379-80.
The actual text he is referring to says
>Boukharine me dit aussi qu'ils avaient decide d'utiliser la terreur individuelle pour se debarrasser de Staline.
>Bukharin also told me that they had decided to use individual terror in order to get rid of Stalin.
Individual terror refers to assassination. Doesn't this mean that Bukharin was planning on assassinating Stalin as early as 1929??
Isn't that a major charge of the Moscow Trials, that the defendants were planning on "terrorist acts" against the leadership??? Same with Pierre Broué finding out that the bloc of Trotsky, Kamenev, and Zinoviev existed in 1932.
How much of the Moscow Trials were just scripted and how much of it went off of actual crimes like this? Because I always thought that charges as a whole were fabricated.
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 No.1274242

>>1274216
Its b8.

 No.1274250

>>1273604
>Bukharin wanted to spare kulaks
>Therefore demonstrating a restraint his political opponents (Trotsky and Stalin) both lacked
>Therefore it stands to reason he would not have plotted to assassinate his fellow Bolsheviks
<NOOOO BUKHARIN WAS FASCIST
the absolute state of grover furrists

 No.1274308

>>1273378
Lenin was holding out that revolution in Germany would reverse the losses of Brest. Bukharin didn't think so.

 No.1274310

>>1274308
So Bukharin was literally right. Those losses didn't get reversed until WW2 happened and the Soviets rolled over eastern europe.

 No.1275767

>>1273290
>Out of all the Bolsheviks he was probably the most squeamish about loss of life alone
Shame he wasn't squeamish about kulak exploitation or wanting to shoot Lenin or going against the party to oppose peace with Germany eh?



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