/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>1883033
>Can I live off drawing hentai in communism?
Impossible to know. But probably not.
Sage and report and fuck off with this low effort /siberia/ trash.
>>1883038
>It's probably healthier if we just have real life sex and figure out how to jerk off to our imaginations again
Anon you don't need to wait for socialism for this.

Serious answer: of course there'll be erotic art. Only difference is you'll be able to take more time with each peice and be better rested, because you won't be selling it as a commodity. So no, you won't live off of it, because your living needs will already be taken care of.

>>1883036
>>1883042
Credit card companies are the biggest purveyors of censorship, their terms of service have shaped the porn industry more than any government has done.
There can't be freedom as long credit card companies work as private governments.

there will actually only be drawn porn under communism. 3DPD will be banned and pornographers will be reeducated.

>>1883033
>Will there be hentai under communism?
yes
>Can I live off drawing hentai in communism?
no
>>1883036
>We need socialist patreon without all the censorship tbh.
lol wtf?
>>1883038
>It's probably healthier
>>probably
do you have even a single source to back that up?

>>1882516
stop projecting

>>1882530
stop the denial

Waow this bourgeois president is a heccin WOMAN???????????

>>1882432
bruh internet schizos are taking over actually

>>1869639
>You replied to a post about the capitalist class >>1869473 with a statement about banks in some country >>1869496
tbf financial institutions have long been at the top of capitalism, lenin in his imperialism analysis already recognized this, and thing have only gotten farther in that regard. It would be interesting to see what part of the total surplus value end up in the major investment banks (which all have shares in each other and can be considered as an united whole).

>>1872092
only if you have a "head of the household"

>>1870110
That's not whan animism means, it's just essentialism. Pretty sure those aren't even compatible with eachother, like, essentialism laid the anthropocentrism and collonial "take shit and leave shit without asking nature for permission" mindsets that would allow for that transition to the 'theisms with their gods (spaggeti kings) instead of other organims and rocks having agency on their own with consequences for denying that agency; thus stripping spirituality to "don't piss off the speggheti kings and you can do whatever you want."

>>1881496
The thing is that liberalism necessarily comes out of mercantilism, where wealth is concentrated in empires for the ability of its circulation. Yes, the founders of the economy arent animists, but down the line, the "true believers" of the system eventually believe in the government of things over people. They believe a funko pop figure or an NFT possesses an autonomous Value. It is the regression of people's minds into superstition. Thats why we have an economy largely based on gambling.
>muh essentialism
an overused term that hardly denotes anything substantial

>>1881496
>rocks having agency on their own
<chemistry is a spook
All you Fichtean fake-materialists need to read Theses on Feuerbach 10 times before posting again.

>>1881496
Nah animism is fitting. Economists often talk like the things themselves have agency, factors of production "contributing" to production and so on.

>Young people think they will never die but when age hit, you feel in despair. I say this because i have an uncle that used to be a communist militant and an avid atheist, he told me he wanted to believe but cant and he feels shitty because of that.


Thats an arrogant assu.ption made by adults. Most young people are alays scared of the future and are desperate to get it right.
This whole assumption of youth as "arrogant idealism" is mainly projection

>>1881264
Also forgot to mention, most peoppe dont really belive in spiritual ideas. They hope in them.

>>1881420
>The whole teleporter/replicator argument falls apart because you could make a copy of yourself, while you the original still exist, and obviously you can't be that other person while you're still yourself at the same time.

Why not? If we're just biologically patterns than why would your copy be any less "you"? I think a big flaw in human thinking is we often have a detached view of the universe and life. As if we're not a natural process of it but some outsider tossed into it.

>>1882262
>Why not? If we're just biologically patterns than why would your copy be any less "you"? I think a big flaw in human thinking is we often have a detached view of the universe and life. As if we're not a natural process of it but some outsider tossed into it.
Because you would still be you while your duplicate exists.

>>1882262
>>1882266
>you
It wasn't me, it was my digital twin

These are all esoteric fart sniffers. Just like Tronti, Ellul, or any of the flavour-of-the-month philosophers and esotericists. Political Economy remains the only way of observing the world that does not amount to a revamped version of Astrology. You will be much more informed about the world by reading The Economist and Bloomberg news than by reading these navel gazers.

>>1881476
>private property and markets are material
Kys neolib

>>1881476
>Political Economy remains the only way of observing the world that does not amount to a revamped version of Astrology.
Yes can confirm political economy cured my cancer

>>1880665
>What did Lenin know about Islam?
probably quite a bit as he had to oversee multiple majority-muslim territories within the USSR

>>1881658
Lindsey Graham has to oversee America's foreign relations in the Middle East but I'm not going to get my knowledge about Islam from that unhinged crank

>>1882056
Farage-communism… doesnt have the same ring

>>1882200
what if we used the party name? Reform-ism!..
…I'll get back to you.

>>1879921
I'll never get over the Workers Party's logo looking like a generic authoritarian faction symbol from a video game.

it's incredible the degree to which this country coasts along like nothing is amiss, enjoying the delusion that if nobody touches anything "growth" will save us.

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>>1881293
no

>>1881267
Tell me one. The US isn't fragmented into a dozen of states. And Russia is part of Europe.

>>1881526
Are you implying that the US is bigger than euro states because of lower levels of nationalism?

>>1881507
it's true. you are a liar

>>1881819
Quite interestingly, they were in government with the succdems for three years in the 80s. I don't know if that stint coincided with Falco international success. But aside from that, what's the point of Austria at all?

>>1881806
>It's nonsense but communism is taught as good intentions but cant work. They dont demonize Stalin in the same way as Hitler. Thats why rightoids complain about Stalin not being seen in the same way as Hitler and its some sort of leftie conspiracy
It is in the very least an antifascist conspiracy, but the entire post-45 regime has been denazification, yet the jewell of this philosemitic gesture in israel also sours into the unconscious of the system (also in ukraine) as the very thing they are supposed to fight against - like how neoconservatism was bred out of trotskyism.
But this is why black sun emblems and neo-paganism wont save the white race, because these are the weapons of the american empire (where also the police force in the US is largely based on the codes of "the invisible empire" of the KKK - a racially esoteric cult said to be started by freemason albert pike).
So when you try to use the devil's tricks against the devil, it never works out; it just gets subsumed into the preexisting system of occult power. 4chan itself is just glowies baiting eachother. and you can still be a fed even if you dont work for the FBI
So fascism can exist in quantitative (unrepresented) relation to political-economy (in the military-induatrial complex). Yet this distance between the concrete and abstract in contradiction points to the failure of the sublimity of the system's imperium.
The system is repressed, so to say, but this "conservative" character defines much of capitalist society and is the greatest alienation; as a chasm between relations of the base of production and culture. Death is even censored behind hospital walls for example. Violent movies need to be protected from children and so on.
In ancient athens, young teens would go on military expeditions with masters to learn what life is all about. Today Reality is barred from us (even at the ontological level, with kant's *modern* epistemology). Today we are determinately mediated beings.

>>1881838
>This would be the total reactionary act
Not at all. It would be the culmination of a cycle. Your emotions are clearly leading you astray.
>which guenon defines as "the reign of quantity".
Maybe you protoids shuold stop reading German "materialism" and start reading Marxian materialism.

>>1881905
A cyclical theory of history is reactionary since it submits to the eternal return of the form of the social Idea, like the "hard times make strong men" meme. Thats why the left favours linear notions of "progress" toward continual self-transformation unto the unbroachable ideal of total equality. This follows from hegel's dialectical theory of nature seeking to realise itself, yet only affirming itself in the failure of an ideal (like how man fell from the garden of eden).
There is a circularity in this mode of thought, but hegel also broaches the enlightenment as "histiry turned on its head" where History ends with its self-completion by the ascent of Reason as a captured object of self-reference (as opposed to previous eras of "irrational" social forms, which indeed where repetitions of the same - but this is History proper, where Reason in self-consciousness to Hegel represents the path of universality via posthistorical conditions).
This is obviously transposed by marx into a materialist context. Marx's theory of History repeating itself is always held out by the rupture of contradiction however that constantly moves things forward.
You see, in the right-wing perspective, there is no end of History since History is majorly particularised (as opposed to being entranced into concepts of "world-history"). World-history by this perspective i would gather has largely been seen to be a eurocentric fetish of occidental Reason and "philosophy" (as hegel's "absolute" Idea).
What qualifies "progress" to marx against this sameness is that marx sees that history has an object of its own dissolution, which i rhetorically anounced as the "reactionary" ideal by "retvrning" to the ancient past.
>Maybe you protoids shuold stop reading German "materialism" and start reading Marxian materialism
What am i missing exactly?

>>1881917
>>1881905
where hegel sees irrationality in thought defining history, marx sees irrationality in production defining history (where he even sees the "original sin" of aristotle in not marking the labour invested in commodities as the universal substance which binds them in equivalence, since the relation of the slave made man a commodity also, and thus labour was alienated from its object of self-consciousness in this way). Only with reference to a universal proletariat does labour come into essence and thus find political identification.
Marx is a hegelian afterall, even though he "turns hegel on his head" by his materialist inversion.

>>1881925
The inversion of an ideology is a firm and clear step into a "post-" camp. PMC faggots need to get their Hegelian bureaucratic idealism back in their asses before the proletariat pulls it out with tools.

>>1873505
I was reading some of Orwell's writings (I know….) during WWII and people seemed just about as schizo back then as they do now. Once Britain and the USSR formed an alliance, he described the British working class as becoming much more pro-Russian, but somehow didn't connect that to communist ideology or to the Communist Party, which didn't really benefit that much. The party gained some new recruits but it didn't translate to political influence. The party also started shilling hard for Churchill which led to some interesting posters. Orwell distrusted communists greatly but he thought this was the right move for them though. (One of his letters at the time said he was cheering for Stalin, which he admitted was a strange thing for him to say.)

He didn't think German propaganda was effective but they'd run targeted psyops to different audiences. There was Nazi radio propaganda aimed at the right, and different broadcasts aimed at the left, like calling Germany "socialist" and fighting the British plutocrats, and that Britain needed a revolution (so go sabotage arms production!) which was necessary… to save the Soviet Union… but even if the USSR lost to Germany… which it probably will (!!!) … then at least there will be socialism in Britain!!!! There were some British pacifists who basically became pro-Hitler, or like saying, Hitler wouldn't be so bad (or who's to say he's any worse?). Then the leftists who actually took up a "revolutionary defeatist" position were the anarchists. Can you imagine?

Then there were the Catholics, the bulk of them very poor Irish laborers not suffiicently under the thumb of their priests to be pro-fascist, but the Catholic intelligentsia were basically pro-fascist (but mainly put the emphasis on being anti-Russian) and paralleled Petain. Some of the anti-Bolshevik stuff being put out by Catholic papers was so venemous it disgusted Orwell. He said it was old-fashioned stuff about Bolshevik atrocities and nationalizing women. There ended up being a split between the Catholics on this later.

There were also some leftover Blackshirts who were in a crouch, but they'd adopt positions like, trading bases with America for destroyers is bad, we should stay out of any alliances, Britain can stand alone… with the basic idea being to forge some kind of separatePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Libertarian Stalinism is turned out real after all. Oppose elitist Fabianism, and the imperialist trick of welfarist, social democratic ideologies that traps the people. Oppose war, militarism, and racism.

It makes sense to me, a full analysis of all the problems of capitalism is difficult, but an instinctual revulsion to the inhuman cruelty of Empire is a normal reaction that you have to actively suppress.

>>1873350
I think parents just generally care about the material conditions their children are subjected to, and when the state of things is very clearly not good and getting worse, they're more willing to question if things ought to change or not.
My parents have both always been libertarian voters but in the last couple years have started talking about 'late stage capitalism' and stuff lol

>>1873350
Its natural for petit porkies to be liberal or "libertarian" in amerispeak. They have the luxury of caring about too much taxes or freedumbs as they dont to worry about material needs.

>>1881767
Prick was a British officer so of course his instinct is to order men to charge at the machine guns and then canonise them as lions once the inevitable happens. Literally anything he says or genuinely thinks about war naturally precludes his own participation.

>>1881570

The Suez canal is not even important. Right?

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