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I'm not too well versed in Venezuelan politics. A Venezuelan immigrant living in Brazil I know, who's kind of a radlib 'anarchist', has been posting that Trump is bad but the "dictator" Maduro is a tyrant criminal and responsible for the economic crisis (no mention of sactions for some reason) etc etc you know the drill. She larps as an indigenous artist but she's pale-skinned, her father is an engineer, she used to travel when she was a child, and she came here well-educated in her early teens, so there's no chance she wasn't upper-middle class or something and that makes me very suspicious of her perspective. Her family left Venezuela early during Maduro's first term, which is internationally recognized as legitimate.

Blogpost aside, what's the consensus on Maduro? I know the drug charges are bogus but, did he really rig the election? Is he an "ecoterrorist" overlooking the looting and destruction of the Amazon rainforest? Is he a bad administrator of his country? What's the good and the bad here, materially speaking?

Retard seriously killed a thread for this one liner question while there is a general about Vuvu.

Kys

>>2629572
This thread is not to discuss current events but rather Maduro's history and politics.
>killed a thread
Can you point which thread it was? If not, go fuck yourself you retard. Boohoo a thread in an imageboard died. Suck my cock




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China needs feminism Cultural Revolution

China only has age of consent 14
Too many video games sexual objectification of underaged women
Too much problematic colourism racism in video games and TV, even worse than Japanese (it’s bad worse than Japanese in racism portrayals, just look at Genshin with PoC)
Too much censorship on LGBTQIA+ just look in Arcane TV show with removing Lesbians kissing and hugs.
We need feminist hero for Cultural Revolution like Anita Sarkessian
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>>2627335
They don't even seem to be banning anything queer, rainbow is just a general symbol over there and not a banner in defiance of abrahamic capitalism since there is neither over there. Results in it being used less, but that depreciation, not banning.

>>2627173
I love her so much bro

perfect mommy

What do you mean, Genshin got the coolest black woman of all vidoegames.

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I want to cum inside Anita Sarkessian, while she calls me sexist gooner pig that plays Chinese gachas.

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>>2627280
Interesting 🤔

It's a bit weeaboo although I like the Chinese take on furry aesthetics more than USAian culture.

Do you have any more recs? I guess I like the hard gay and leather sort of aesthetic more. Lesbian hard gay is kind of rare though in general. Not exactly interested in the masc aesthetic though. It's hard to explain ig.



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there is no difference politically between the first world and the third world, the third world isn't specifically socialist or humanitarian, there isn't a coalition of 'good' countries that will unite and fight against the empire, because every country wants to be the empire, they will fight the empire when it serves their interest and will side with the empire against other weak countries the moment they can see some benefit in doing that.

every great leader in history did shit for the money and the glory, every country on earth bends the knee to capital, specially the country retards on here say it's the only saving grace of communism, china.

the proletariat also will side against fellow proletariat the moment they get a slight pay increase, the moment they can save and start a small business, they will abandon their fellow worker, because in the final analysis no one actually cares about the working class, not even the working class. treatlerites are not exclusive to the first world, they are just a manifestation of this phenomena.

→ /siberia/
Or even better: delete

>>2627528
prove any of my points wrong, I'm not even pro capital or trying to demoralize, but please prove me wrong.

>>2627525
this is actually 100% compatible with marxism.

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Mods deport this to /Siberia/ please.
And ban this shit for filling every board

>>2629038
still hearing no arguments



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>p-p-please dont invade us saar
why are europeans so cucked
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>>2628485
The ayatolah is next in line, one leader fell with a helicopter, the next will be carried away in one.

>>2628704
The US is the way, and the truth, every country that stood against it fell, the USSR, Iraq, Lybia, Syria, Venezuela, now Iran and soon China, its not too late to change sides btw.

>>2628487
How do euros feel? They want to become a US colony while also kicking out their immigrants. Euros have no national pride beyond just wanting to remove the brown folks, European subhumans have zero patriotic pride, I want to point out that patriotism is distinct from nationalism. Europeans don’t care about being a Swede or Norwegian or German etc. they would sooner have their state collapse into chaos than have any patriotic pride to keep their nation sovereign. Sovereignty means nothing to Europeans. True patriotism is what you see in Americans (except with Israel, since Americans believe Israel is synonymous with America) and Turkey or Greece, they have strong sovereign pride, aka patriotism.

>>2628810
Most weird nationalist drivel I've ever read

>>2628810
post ww2 european ideal isnt patriotism/nationalism is post european governance i.e. the EU.



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Guys, why do i have the feeling this while thing was staged? why ist he so happy and smiling? was this whole thing just theatre? is this just a psyop?
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>>2627507
>money rules all
No shit Sherlock, what do you think material production means?
Did you seriously think the proles are gonna eat Rare Earth Minerals in a socialist state?

>>2628705
>and this just whipped everyone back into the cage
too soon to tell yet

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>>2628705
Fear? Maybe, but not the “I will listen to what you say” kind of fear and more like the “holy shit, we need to arm ourselves against these maniacs” kind of fear given the type of responses most of the planet just had to this shitshow.

>>2627977
Also with the situation in Libya and the Sahel situation slowly escalating, there is a good chance Saif Gaddafi gets power in Libya again. If Gaddafi gets back into power, that will be the most proof that the empire is a paper tiger and can only do so much before having internal instability



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Then an actual conflict happens, and the western affiliated side just effortlessly wipes the floor with their global south opposition and shocks and humiliates them. The /pol/tards creep away, only to return a few weeks later and do it all again pretending like their previous humiliation never happened

>US BTFOing Wagner/Assadists in Syria (earliest example I can think of of this effect)

>Solemaini circus
>Ukraine war clusterfuck
>Operation Grim Beeper
>Collapse of Assad
>12 day war in Iran/Iran strike
>Venezuela

Honestly it seems that "quiet" is their greatest asset, for it lets them brag and live out their fantasies of supremacy without reality interfering. It's why the /pol/ influence was strongest here in the late 2010s and early 2020s.

This is all very confusing. Even the El Chapo shoot out was way more dramatic.

My personal conspiracy theory is that even the PSUV was getting tired of the bus driver. A backroom deal to throw Maduro out solves so many issues for everyone involved. Trump gets an easy win and some shoring up for low oil prices, the Venezuelan government can finally reintroduce the foreign experts they need to actually exploit their oil, the Venezuelan socialists can now hold Maduro up as a martyr and proof of the inexorable yankee aggression towards Latin America. The only loser is the US state department which will have the headache of trying to convince foreign nations that the US is still reliable while under an admin that treats their department like a joke, but Trump likely doesn't care because for him long term foreign policy objectives are subordinate to his own domestic reputation. I mean it's downright bizarre to take Maduro and then (seemingly as of this moment) just fuck off to let his VP take charge without so much as getting anything for the actual Venezuelan opposition, iirc Trump even said that Venezuela isn't ready for the opposition party to take over. I feel like my thinking on this is highly conspiratorial, but to me this seems like the natural follow-up for this is an uneasy detente where the PSUV is able to continue grinding out its control over Venezuela with a more stabilized oil industry at the cost of some humiliation.
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>>2628842
Zigga zig zigger

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>>2628799
>They spent decades letting shit like Yeltsin Center and Memorial fester and poison entire generations to show esteemed western partners that we have freedumbs now.
<Implying the state didn't want that
>That's why most russians receive information from telegram channels
<Implying most aren't reading Russian state propaganda

>>2628739
I dunno what's more alarming: the fact that Putin is such a moron for failing to target a single Ukronazi leader in spite of car-bombed generals and attacks on his own person… or the fact that he appears to get no significant pushback whatsoever on this, not even from opposition parties.

>>2629013
Do you think this is some kind of aberration?

The problem is unironically that Putin is so damn likable when you listen to him - the quiet confidence, the humor, etc. I think he's a gigantic cuck, but when I listen to him, all is forgiven until the next provocation he cucks a response to. I imagine he receives even more affection within Russia, which is not great, because it probably stops a lot of valid criticism.



 

This is something I thought ever since I read the beginning of the manifesto.

The periods in which serfs, plebs and slaves lived and tolerated their masters is a long one. Actually most human history has been people arrange, adjust and be content with their oppressed status, wherever they realize it or not.

Is the human history not just coping with the cards that are dealt? Like I get that contradictions will never be solved - but at what point do we even need to resolve the contradictions and just be content with what is there?
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>>2628886
No, as capitalism contradictions are something capitalists themselves can't resolve, it's a ticking time bomb

>>2628752
Rare serious post from chagos. Just imagine being a slave in that time. You dont know if there are others like you out there. You are isolated and unaware of larger society

>>2628750
jfc the kind of readings you get when you approach marx from a philosopher point of view lol

>>2628750
The second law of thermodynamics states that entropy in the universe inevitably increases. Over vast timescales, this leads to heat death: maximum entropy, uniform temperature, no energy gradients. All differences, physical, chemical, and even societal (rooted in resource and information disparities) will eventually dissolve into equilibrium.

>>2628897
All my posts are always serious. You just have to put your bias aside and take it at face value.



 

>USSR collapses
>Gorbachev bends over for porky
>burgers back yeltsin
>yeltsin shells parliament
>Ex-soviet children used for Redacted

Narrative A:
<this is because Stalin purged too many communists and the party became revisionist

Narrative B:
<this is because Stalin didn't purge enough Anti Communists and the party became revisionist.

Narrative C:
<this is because Stalin both purged too many communists AND didn't purge enough anti-communists

Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2628379
>Because the entire system ran informally on corruption, nobody wanted to stop it
That's not true. There were a few people in leadership that were against corruption, and were ascetic, but I agree with the structural argument overall.

>>2627170
>Besides, answer D is a shitty explanation. Yes, the USSR did loose a lot of money on foreign entanglement
Why do you completely ignore the wars that were fought on its own territory and essentially wrecked the country two times? The american civil war is laughable in comparison.

>>2628278
crazy how this butthurt belt overlaps 1 to 1 with the part of europe ussr enslaved

>>2628753
How did the USSR enslave Eastern Europe? Do you know what 'enslavement' means?

>>2628756
you're talking to a p*le



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Daily reminder that, contrary to Leninist claims, so-called left communism has been tried and has succeeded. Rojava and the Zapatistas have both maintained genuine classless, stateless societies for over a decade each, 12 years for the former, 30 years for the latter. A decade, let alone three, is not a fluke, it's a success story. It's especially not a fluke when you've survived despite being at the barrel of a hundred guns, which is the case with Rojava.

Daily reminder that a revolution is not successful unless it actually succeeds at its stated goals. Jettisoning any and all ideological standards in the name of "defending the revolution" isn't a victory for communism, because it doesn't actually get us any closer to communism. Leninist states like the Soviet Union and PRC have, in terms of material reality, rather than stated ideology, not only failed to achieve classless, stateless societies, but have instead drifter further and further away from their supposed goal the longer they've been in existence.

The future, the actual future, is left communism. Leninism is an infantile disorder.
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>>2624415
>more so that they were fighting a civil war on 3 fronts and didn’t have the time to develop
thats literally the same as the soviets (although soviets had it even worse with all the foreign interventions all over russia), and the fact the catalonians were dumb enough to attack the soviet backed communists and the republicans while already loosing is definitely proof of an ideological flaw called profound stupidity and disconnect from material reality over purity wanking

>>2622104
They used to be ML and Maoist respectively, they went through massive political shifts after the fall of the USSR, as many other communist groups at the time did

>>2625306
>they went through massive political shifts after the fall of the USSR
And at no point has either ever been "leftcom"

>using pre-industrial examples
While slighly useful as case studies, they have little relevance to our material conditions. They might as well be hunter-gatherer tribes.

>>2621974
>won
If your standard of "winning" amounts to small-scale co-operative production in third world countries, then yes, they've won.

But by any other metrics they have not won. They haven't managed to form any coherent state on the world scene, and have extremely limited power. If Turkey wanted to invade Rojava for instance, it would be over in a week.
To that end, I actually think that leftcom can be adapted to semi-feudal third world countries with destabilized regimes. The reality is that any state that consolidates after a non-capitalist revolution in these kinds of conditions will inherently face massive opposition and counterrevolution. The perfect example of this is probably Nicaragua. To that end, when the state is failing, socialist production from the grounds up is probably a good way to escape the cycle of failed revolutions (revolution -> embargoes & mismanagement -> paranoia & failing economy -> dictatorship).
However, the reality is that these kind of co-operative socialist movement are inadapted for 1st and 2nd world countries where the state has a minimum of power and where the economy is already developed to an extent.

>Leninist states like the Soviet Union and PRC have, in terms of material reality, rather than stated ideology, not only failed to achieve classless, stateless societies

They failed because of a lack of democratic accountability, not because leninism is inherently bureaucratic.



 

>"Doood he's like so funny Doooood!"
<"He needs to like move to Brooklyn!!!"
What the fuck is the cause of this??
Why the fuck are so many prominent Youtube Leftist now making videos about Fuentes that are either positive or (at best) begrudingly amused by his antics???
Seriously I feel like this is fucking nuts for what is obviously the rising face of post Trump Fascism in America and all these idiots are just fucking laughing at it.
It's like how people on left laughed at Trump in early 2016 primary for shitting on the Bush's and the Clintons; we've seen this all fucking before.
And everyone is just normalizing him, everyone is just so myopically obsessed with Trump that critiques from his right, from Nazis mad him for not literally building fucking gas chambers, is somehow accepted into the broad tent.
Why the fuck is no one even bothering to deconstruct his ideology?
Why are none the channels that churn out 4 hour fucking video essays bothering to explain the internal contradictions???
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Kyle was always a Democrat bootlicker and became a turbo bootlicker when he dyed his hair blonde. Why is any of this surprising for you?

>>2617991
Youtube put profits before rule enforcing.

>>2618134
the great injustice of our times is that Dasha got all the thirst when Anna is objectively much hotter

sweaty passionate sex with Anna is all I want

Ok but Fuentes IS funny. Don't tell me you don't enjoy seeing a groyper sending some retarded superchat to him and he proceeds to fight the urge to paint the wall with his brain.
Also >>/isg/

>>2617610
i can kinda see it - fuentes having hate watchers due to being a lolcow - sort of the alex jones of the zoomer generation



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