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He literally is committing a genocide in Palestine and is forcing Palestinians to run into the West/Egypt and other countries. Meanwhile scumbag podcast bros interview him like he's just some random bootlicking politician. Why is America and the West at large so incapable of stopping Zionism and war criminals like him?

>>2398781
because Israel exists as a platform of imperialism to strengthen bourgeisie interests in the middle east. thats why they clapped when he went to the capitol not long ago, it doesn't matter how many babies he kills as long as the bourgeisie interests have a platform in israel so will he in america

>>2398788
How are they so unified on this one thing? They usually are more splintered than this. It's disgusting.

>>2398810
Maybe the Zionist lobby just has that much sway over the American political and cultural elite that it's willing to destroy itself to cater to Israel. They will keep making money at the potential expense of the health of the United States. Those in power generally don't care about the health of the country be cause they figure their wealth will protect them from whatever cataclysm may come from supporting Israel. Or maybe will nothing will happen but they'll still stay wealthy so they win either way

>>2398837
It's just demoralizing. I see so many good people taken advantage of by the system and yet we can do nothing atm. Meanwhile Palestinians are getting killed by the thousands in Gaza by Zionists and our government has no shame in supporting them. Even AOC (traitor) voted to give them money.



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From the Marxist POV, what actually is alienation and why is it bad?

I understand that under capitalism the proletariat essentially becomes production tools, which alienates them from their species-being, as they have no other choice given the necessity of selling their labor to live on. But isn't that the exact same process that the bourgeoisie operates in?

I mean, the bourgeoisie still needs money to feed itself, so the end goal is precisely the same, isn't it?

>the bourgeoisie can just exploit others' labor without doing anything

Right, but then why are they ontologically bad? The proletariat will still keep working for his own need in the end. You can argue that the bourgeoisie exploits him because he has no other choice than to work, but that won't fix his transmutation of labor power into goods, whether he owns the factory or not. Maybe I'm wrong, but it feels to me that alienation just leads to social democracy: a system where the worker can choose where he sells his labor—to himself, to a cooperative, or to one individual.

>the materialist dialectic will eventually make all workers work for their own needs because it's the rational thing to do

In this case, the bourgeoisie isn't bad but merely individuals who managed to seize an opportunity. Furthermore, if workers will rationally come to this own conclusion, then why even bother with a socialist revolution ? I guess you could argue that it's precisely about making the workers aware in a sense of their potential but again, this only seems to bring towards a social-democracy, not a marxist revolution.

Thoughts ?
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>>2398658
You're both correct because alienation effects every facet of day to day life under capitalism most especially in the west


>>2398664
Are you arguing with the fact that people need to be motivated to produce better results?

>>2398622
> the alienation inherent to the specific form bourgeois property takes and its appropriation of surplus value, in creating a class of those who dont appropriate this wealth, yet are contingent factors in its production, creates the conditions for their overthrow by socialisation into common property
Yeah, capital is a cocktease and the workers are ready for murderfucking.

>>2397730
I mean this is a common take but personally I disagree. IMO the trade in the means of production leads to the commodification of workers which eventually develops into the managerial strata. Money itself is backed by the precarity of the unemployed. Anyhow I think that money will be abolished by the workers seizing control of the hiring/firing process. The wage slaves must seize control of the slave market (LinkedIn, the interview process in general and so on). Only then can we abolish money which is merely a facilitating tool for the trade in labor.



 

"All the real communists are dead, they died fighting for communism."
Is there any hope for the future? The Lumpenprole are SO easy to manipulate, religion is on the upswing, and the global oligarchy is so influential and hypernormalized that I'm losing optimism. Please, tell me that comrade sacrifices will pay off.
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>>2397491
Sexy woman. I like that. I'd need a stool though

>>2398133
You're not even wrong, but it's because the "communism" you refer to is not the communism as understood by Marx Engels and Lenin. I.e a stateless, classless, moneyless society. All the communist regimes so far have been capitalist albeit with different political economies rather than white-bread liberalism.

Only once have "real" communists come into power, and that was the Soviet Union, but that revolution collapsed in the 1920s and was taken over by capitalist opportunists.

>>2398750
Giga TRVKE

>>2398133
>black book of communism
lol

>>2397382
You're white



 

1% of the population, 20% of the wealth

Rape the rich
#darkwoke

Stochastic terrorism against the 1%, unlimited jihad against the bourgeoisie.
Anti-robber baron action.
Put deez nuts on the rich.
Put wallstreet against the wall.

Unlimited fedposting.
Pro-adventurism action.

Shoot the rich summer!
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>>2395706
OP has down syndrome

>>2395714
Communism is when we skin the private owners of property alive. The bourgeoisie should fear and tremble at the might of the working class.

>>2395706
There is already a stochastic terrorism against a less than 1 % of the population dumdum

>>2395738
Unironically yes

>>2395775
Where? There isn't nearly enough terrorism in the world

The state can commit a million times more violence than you and your buddies. This what people forget, our enemies can be "adventurist" as well.



 

Why aren't you using the tools at your disposal to study harder, faster, stronger? This summary of the history of anti-revisionism from 1890 to 2025 was generated from the contents of 31 different texts. It doesn't replace reading, but it sure as hell makes it a lot easier to condense a lot of information fast.

type of midwit who presents watching 30-second ai-summarized tv shows as "acting against luddism"

>>2398662
This is an hour long. It's nothing like 30 second summary slop.



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Belgian police question two Israelis over war crimes accusations
The federal prosecutor’s office said it had asked the police to locate the two people named in the complaint and to interview them. “Following these interviews, they were released,” it said in a statement. The office said it had taken action after concluding that Belgian courts had extraterritorial jurisdiction over alleged war crimes. “No further information will be given at this stage of the investigation,” the office said. The two Israelis have not been named.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/21/belgian-police-question-two-israelis-over-war-crimes-accusations

Counter-demo set for Epping following violence outside refugee hotel
The founder of the English Defence League has announced plans to visit the Essex town on Sunday to join the latest in a series of far-right protests outside a local hotel housing refugees. In response, Stand Up to Racism has organised a counter-demonstration, scheduled to begin near the Bell Hotel at 4pm.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/counter-demo-set-epping-following-violence-outside-refugee-hotel

Evacuations begin in Syria’s Sweida as days of deadly clashes ease
Neighboring Israel also launched dozens of airstrikes in Druze-majority Sweida province, targeting government forces who effectively sided with the Bedouins. Syrian state media on Sunday said the government had coordinated with officials in Sweida to bring buses to evacuate some 1,500 Bedouins. The province’s internal security chief under the Interior Ministry, Ahmad al-Dalati, told the state-run news agency that the initiative also would allow civilians displaced from Sweida to return. Druze civilians were expected to be evacuated from other areas, but those had not taken place by Monday evening.
https://apnews.com/article/syria-druze-bedouin-clashes-israel-f066b472abcb9c1d546b4e3d713feadd

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez defends decision to support military aid for Israel
"What it does do is cut off defensive Iron Dome capacities while allowing the actual bombs killing Palestinians to continue," she said. "I have long stated that I do not believe that adding to the death count of innocent victims to this war is constructive to its end. "That is a simple and clear difference of opinion that has long been established. I remain focused on cutting the flow of US munitions that are being used to perpetuate the genocide in Gaza." On Saturday, the Democratic Socialists of America, of which Ocasio-Cortez is a member, said it was crucial that lawmakers backed all-encompassing arm embargoes against Israel, including those concerning defensive weapons. “While the Congresswoman voted against the defense appropriations bill itself, voting against funding for the imperialist military-industrial complex and the Israeli genocide, we were further deeply disappointed by her clarifying statement on her position on the Iron Dome.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-defends-decision-support-military-aid-israel

Woman accuses NYPD of failing to protect her from Brooklyn mob in $1.25 million claim
The claim, which is a procedural step required before filing a lawsuit against the city, alleges NYPD officers ignored threats to the woman as she was set upon by the large crowd. A video that went viral after the incident shows one officer ultimately escorting her to safety as dozens of men and boys shout insults at her, threaten her with sexual assault, kick her and throw objects at her.
https://gothamist.com/news/woman-accuses-nypd-of-failing-to-protect-her-from-brooklyn-mob-in-125-million-claim
https://archive.ph/UCgVX

AFSCME rams through Philadelphia city workers contract in vote marked by low turnout
Out of approximately 9,000 eligible members, fewer than 2,400 cast ballots, marking a voter turnout of under 30 percent. The low turnout was effectivPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

PRWC » The US-Marcos Regime’s Continuing Violence
After three years of bloody rule, the Marcos regime is now further intensifying its fascist repression of the Filipino people. Bloodshed and increasing cases of human rights violations in the name of counterinsurgency continue. It is obsessed with destroying the Filipino people’s patriotic and democratic aspirations and struggles, and ending their revolutionary resistance. It serves the interests of foreign monopoly capitalists, big comprador bourgeois, landlords, and bureaucrat capitalists. To spotlight the intensity and extent of the regime’s brutality and echo the people’s cry for justice, Ang Bayan (AB) issues this report highlighting the long trail of abuses and human rights violations committed by Marcos’s armed minions in the last six months (January to June of this year). The report involves fascist personnel of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP), the Philippine National Police (PNP), paramilitaries, and other armed agents of the reactionary state. This report is based on information AB has reported, gathered, and analyzed. Because the regime’s intensified repression made it more difficult to send reports, many cases in the countryside went unrecorded. The report also does not include many cases of human rights violations against the Moro people which have not been publicized. AB uses international standards in estimating the number of victims of evacuation and militarization, and in the number of affected children.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/20439/

The War on Communists in the Hotel Workers’ Union
The Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees and Bartenders International Union (HERE) gathered in Milwaukee in 1947 for its largest convention in history. With over 400,000 members, HERE was the fifth-largest affiliate of the American Federation of Labor — and growing. But a majority of delegates arrived in a less-than-celebratory mood, seeking to ban the Communists who had been so central to the union’s successes from the organization altogether. Before the vote on a constitutional anti-communist clause, newly elected HERE president Hugo Ernst spoke against the “drastic” motion. He praised “the officers of Local 6 for the splendid work they have done in the hotels in New York, which we tried unsuccessfully to organize a Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

Why has "empathy" become a swear word (one of a growing number of swear words) in rightard circles?

The ability experience pathy is what seperates human beings from snakes. The scientific classification for someone who doesn't feel empathy is a sociopath, and the general consensus until a few months ago was that being a sociopath is a bad thing. But now you see rightards proudly proclaiming that they don't care about anything or anyone but themselves, and it's fucking bizarre to me.
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Thing about what are actual goals of right wing politics, what policies they advocate, what world they are trying to create. It is obvious why empathy would be a fundamental barrier to that.
On more psychological level, right wingers cant process ambiguity, everything has to be sorted into good and bad. Empathy inevitably interferes with that.

>muh empathy
What does THIS have to do with politics? Tell me.

>Morality is just a spook made by the rich to control you, drop this bullshit, my man
>MUH EMPATHY! LE EMPATHY! WHY AREN'T PEOPLE FEELING THE HECKIN EMPATHY?????

Empathy isn't some universal thing. It's supposed to be reserved for members of your tribe. For example, if you showed a black man a video of a white child getting set on fire he'd probably shit himself laughing

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>>2393541
I’m not sure if I’ve reached the despair point, but I’ve definitely got that contempt for Israel. Thing is I’ve also got Jewish family friends so I’m second-hand hearing that “Would you hide me??” Shit too, and it takes all my energy not to just crash out.

>>2393566
Your party is literally Zionist, stop lying about your "contempt for Israel"

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>>2393538
I honestly think DSA in general should be less democratic and have more centralized control. Its not a country its a political action group



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Guys did I do it? Did I crack the code for the superior version of the political compass?


Liberal nationalism - the ideology of the dishonest and stupid petite bourgeoisie

Fascism - the ideology of the honest and stupid petite bourgeoisie

Social-democracy —- dishonest and smart petite bourgeoisie

Anarchism —- honest and smart petite bourgeoisie

Cryptotechbro shit / AI cultism —- dishonest and stupid haute bourgeoisie

Classical liberalism/fiscal conservatism —- honest and stupid haute bourgeoisie

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>>2398136
Yes, I think so.

Left Esers - Honest and smart peasants

>>2398129
Fuck off back to >>>/siberia/

Carlism —- honest and smart peasants

Obviously

>>2398129
Listing off all the bourgeoisie ideologies I see



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

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>>2397960
>Calling it white supremacy is also inaccurate given as there is no such thing as the white race and never has been.
That is such a retarded statement and I already know that if I press you on this you will say "Oh no, I meant it's not biologically real" which we all agree with, but the statement is still moronic.
>Calling something white supremacy is inaccurate because there is no such thing as a white race (biologically speaking)
In that case calling anything white supremacy will always be inaccurate for the same reason. It obviously refers to the imposition of this fabricated social construct and not its actual existence in nature.

>>2398023
whatever

>>2398041
Fuck off you asswipe. Drink bleach.

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>>2398073
>"You shouldn't just go around accusing people of being pedos, let alone the president!"

Reminder that they were so baffled by Biden swearing on his family's bible ("I've never seen a bible that big before!") they were convinced he had a dead baby stuffed in it like an alcoholic stores a flask of whisky.



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